"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Rabbi Jason Fenster, a Rabbi at the Congregation of BJBE in Deerfield, Illinois. Rabbi Fenster is the guest of Representative Morgan. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Rabbi Fenster."
"First, thank you for the privilege of speaking with you this morning. I'm honored to speak with those who, through word and deed, can change the lives of millions. An awesome and a sacred responsibility you carry. In my tradition, before we begin the sacred work, we engage in a brief moment of study. So, with your permission, I'd like to share with you a word of Torah. In just 10 days, Jewish communities across our state and across the globe will sit together to observe the festival of Passover. [Recited in Hebrew], invite family and friends to our table and then we will tell the story of a miracle, that where there is suffering and cruelty, all that is good and holy and true will step in to the world to insist on justice, opportunity, and freedom. Our holiday liturgy compels us [recited in Hebrew]. In every generation, each of us must see ourselves as having come out of Egypt, and then we tell our children of the obligations that come along with that story. That having being graced with freedom, we now bear a responsibility to build a world worthy of that miracle. To tell that story, we instruct our children to look out and see where there is oppression, where there are those who behave like pharaohs 10200099.docx 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 using their power to elevate themselves rather than to elevate the people they serve. And again, and again, and again, our Torah teaches that because we know the feeling of the stranger, because we know the experience of injustice and persecution, we are commanded to welcome the stranger and to care for the vulnerable. To mark this festival, we build ritual moments imbued with stories past and present that call us to empathy, open us to love, and demand that we actively pursue a world that is more compassionate, more equitable, and more just. We teach our children that they inherit that story and that they inherit that awesome and ennobling responsibility. May you, may you be blessed to build a world worthy of our children. May you be imbued with wisdom and with courage. May you find abundance in the face of scarcity. May you build community in the face of division. May you find homes for the homeless, and freedom for the captive, and clothes for the naked, and food for the hungry. May you mark a path of peace and shelter for those who flee hatred and violence. May you ensure that all people, no matter their race, religion, their origin, or gender find equity and opportunity in our great state. We close with blessing. [Recited in Hebrew]. May the holy one of blessing, the one whose spirit fills the universe, bring purpose and power to the holy work of attending to the needs of community. To which we say, Amen."
"We will be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Lilly." Lilly – et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, 10200099.docx 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Greenwood is recognized to report any excused absences on the Democratic side of the aisle."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representatives Conroy and Barbara Hernandez are excused today."
"Leader Welter is recognized to report any excused absences on the Republican side of the aisle."
"Madam Speaker, there are no excused absences on the Republican side of the aisle today."
"Have all recorded themselves who wish? Have all recorded themselves who wish? Have all recorded themselves who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There being 110 Members answering the roll call, a quorum is present. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."
Clerk Bolin: "Committee Reports. Representative Harris, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, referred to the floor is Floor Amendment(s) 2 for House Bill 1095, Floor Amendment(s) 2 for House Bill 1100, Floor Amendment(s) 2 for House Bill 1103, Floor Amendment(s) 2 for House Bill 1321, Floor Amendment(s) 2 for House Bill 1568, and Floor Amendment(s) 2 for House Bill 1571; approved for consideration, referred to Second Reading is House Bill 1497; approved for consideration, referred to Consideration Postponed is House Bill 4104; also recommends be adopted, Motions to Concur with Senate Amendment(s) 1 for House Bill 10200099.docx 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 3118 and Senate Amendment(s) 1 for House Bill 4941. Representative Williams, Chairperson from the Committee on Energy & Environment reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted is House Resolution 763. Representative Harper, Chairperson from the Committee on Agriculture & Conservation reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, House Resolution 754. Representative Moeller, Chairperson from the Committee on Human Services reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, House Resolutions 745, 758, and 771. Representative Gong-Gershowitz, Chairperson from the Committee on Judiciary - Civil reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1022, Motion to Concur with Senate Amendment(s) 2 to House Bill 4158, and House Joint Resolution 81. Representative Robinson, Chairperson from the Committee on Tourism reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, House Joint Resolution 83. Representative Moylan, Chairperson from the Committee on Transportation: Regulation, Roads & Bridges reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, House Joint Resolution 84, House Joint Resolution 86, and House Resolution 740; recommends be adopted as amended is House Joint Resolution 59. Representative… Chairperson from the Committee on Transportation: Vehicles & Safety reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: do pass Short Debate for Senate Bill 3096; recommends be adopted, Floor 10200099.docx 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1688. Representative Kifowit, Chairperson from the Committee on Veterans' Affairs reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted is House Resolution 692, House Resolution 760, Floor Amendment(s) 2 to Senate Bill 257; and recommends be adopted as amended, House Resolution 743. Introduction of Resolutions. House Resolution 798, offered by Representative Buckner. House Resolution 805, offered by Representative Swanson. House Joint Resolution 91, offered by Representative Davidsmeyer. And House Joint Resolution 92, offered by Representative Butler. Continuation of the Committee Reports. Representative Slaughter, Chairperson from the Committee on Judiciary - Criminal reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1095, Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1097, Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1100, Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1103, Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1321, Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1568, and Floor Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 1571."
"Representative Severin, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A point of personal privilege, please."
"Please proceed."
"I know you'll find it hard to believe, but I do not have a Page for the day, but I do have a… my brother is in the gallery. I just… I want to introduce and tell a little bit about him. So, when I was elected about six years ago, I had people ask me, 'So, are you going to be intimidated when 10200099.docx 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 you get to Springfield?' I said, 'Intimidated?' I said, 'I'll be nervous, but I won't be intimidated. I had four sisters who used to dress me up like a girl when I was a little boy. And I had four older brothers who used to use me as a punching bag.' So, I'd like to introduce one of the punching bags, my brother, Danny Severin. And he's from Kansas City, Missouri. And so, I'm proud to have him in the gallery today and his friend, Mike Marand."
"Welcome to Springfield. Speaker Welch in the Chair."
"Members, may I have your attention, please? Members. Members of the General Assembly, I am extremely delighted to welcome to the House chamber today the Consul General of India, Amit Kumar. Consul General Kumar is a career diplomat and joined the Indian Foreign Service in 1995. He has experience with both bi-lateral and multi-lateral work in diverse areas such as political, strategic, and economic spheres. Prior to taking up his current role in Chicago, Consul General Kumar was the Deputy Chief of Mission in the Embassy of India, Washington, D.C. Members of the General Assembly, please put your hands together and give a warm Illinois welcome to the Consul General, Consul General Kumar."
"Honorable Speaker of the House. Honorable Representatives. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the privilege to address the Illinois General Assembly today, and most of all, people of Illinois. Thank you also, Mr. Speaker, for your kind words and generous introduction. It is an honor to visit the capital city of Springfield, the city also of 10200099.docx 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 President Abraham Lincoln. I bring the greetings and friendship of the world's largest democracy to the people of Illinois and the United States, the world's oldest democracy. As vibrant democracies, India and the United States share many common values and aspirations. Our partnership is based on shared values such as respect for rule of law, human freedom, innovation and entrepreneurial spirit, free and independent media, and a strong civil society. At the heart of this partnership, there is tremendous goodwill, friendship, and support at the popular level in our two countries. Indeed, strong people to people connections are the key drivers of our partnership. Our synergies are immense, and the spirit of innovation, the pursuit of excellence, and service defines the best of our peoples. It is, therefore, no surprise that our partnership enjoys a strong bipartisan support in the U.S. and multi-party support in India. Mr. Speaker, this year is an important milestone in India's journey as a nation, marking 75 years of our independence. India is witnessing a profound social and economic change. With its economy of nearly 3 trillion U.S. dollars, India is ranked as a top investment destination as one of the… and one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Under the leadership of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the government has laid out a bold vision for India's development and to become a U.S. dollar 5 trillion economy within a few years. A number of transformative, far-reaching reforms and initiatives taken by the government underpinned by technology, social and financial inclusion are accelerating socio-economic development in India. India is a young country 10200099.docx 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 with 65 percent of population between the ages of 18-35 years. India's skilled and aspirational young workforce is increasingly playing a major role in advancing economic progress and development. India also has now the world's third largest startup ecosystem, witnessing exponential growth in recent years, up from a few hundred startups in 2016. There were 13 thousand new startups in 2021 alone. The expanding Indian economy and our population base offers a large consumer market, a skilled labor force, and numerous opportunities for international collaboration. In the coming years, we expect India to emerge as an economic powerhouse across the Indo- Pacific region and beyond. Mr. Speaker, today India-U.S. partnership is exploring new horizons in diverse areas such as health, climate change and renewable energy, knowledge- based partnerships comprising higher education, science and technology and innovation, digital technologies, business, defense and security. The India-U.S. partnership is critical in translating India's ambitious vision for development into a reality. In every sector of India's development journey, we see the United States as an indispensable partner. Our bilateral trade in goods and services has expanded rapidly and has increased to over U.S. dollar 160 billion in 2021. U.S. exports to India are rising faster than the Indian exports to the United States. We are also now importing U.S. crude and oil, as well as natural gas worth close to U.S. dollar 8 billion annually. The two-way investment between India and the United States has reached around U.S. dollar 65 billion. Indian firms have also invested close to $22 billion in the U.S. economy, creating jobs and economic opportunities 10200099.docx 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 in several U.S. states. Likewise, U.S. firms continue to invest in India. There has been consistent, regular, high- level political engagement between our two countries. There is a much-increased frequency of consultations among cabinet members and senior officials. In addition to the regular foreign office consultations, there is also the 2+2 dialogue at ministerial level that brings together foreign and defense ministries and a meeting of it is expected in the near future. We are also expanding defense and security cooperation, which is stronger than ever before. India has been designated as a major defense partner of the United States. The two countries, today, conduct more bilateral defense exercises with each other than they do with other countries. India has procured around U.S. dollar 21 billion worth of defense platforms from the U.S. in the last decade. India and the United States are also working closely bilaterally as well as in the Quad format, the summit meeting, which was held in March 2022, to discuss issues such as the pandemic, combating climate change, fighting terrorism, cooperation in the Indo-Pacific, maritime cooperation and cyber security. India and the United States have cooperated closely during the COVID-19 pandemic and worked to ensure that the global supply chains in critical medical supplies, PPEs, pharmaceuticals, and medical equipment, were not disrupted. Three successful COVID-19 vaccines in India are an outcome of bilateral collaboration. The United States, and the State of Illinois in particular, has put in place an ambitious framework for climate change. India, likewise, has set ambitious targets. There is much potential to collaborate in the area of renewable energy and 10200099.docx 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 electric vehicles. Mr. Speaker, the State of Illinois is the economic powerhouse of the U.S. Midwest region and the national hub for global commerce, advanced manufacturing, agriculture and food processing, logistics, pharmaceuticals, innovation and knowledge ecosystem. India and Illinois enjoy wide-ranging partnership in several areas. Enhanced two-way investments, commercial tie ups, innovation and knowledge partnership, and higher education cooperation are propelling India-Illinois partnership to newer heights. Several major Illinois companies are already present in India. Similarly, over 80 Indian firms have presence in Illinois. We are delighted to see this positive growth in India-Illinois trade and investment ties. India welcomes Illinois-based businesses to invest in India and harness tremendous economic opportunities that are available in rapidly growing India. More than 11 thousand students from India are presently pursuing education in Illinois universities and colleges. The 4.4 million strong Indian American community in the U.S. has played and continues to play a critical role in enriching and advancing the India-U.S. strategic partnership. They have been an active bridge in promoting understanding and friendship between our two important countries. I have had the opportunity to meet several U.S. elected representatives at federal, state, and local levels in Illinois and in the Midwest. They all have shared with me how the Indian American community has been making significant contributions to the economic growth and the political community and cultural spheres here. As in the United States, where today every town has some Indian connection, there is tremendous interest in 10200099.docx 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 India about the United States, be it business, technology, education, arts, culture, or sports. The Indian Consulate in Chicago deeply values the strong support of the Illinois political leadership, businesses, academia, the Indian American community, and the people at every level to advance India-Illinois ties in all sectors. With your valuable support, I am confident that the India-Illinois partnership will scale new heights in the pursuit of our shared aspirations in the coming years. Thank you."
Speaker Welch: "Members, I want to particularly point out Representative Seth Lewis. A couple of weeks ago, he came to my office to make sure the Consul General of India appeared here at the Illinois General Assembly. So, let's give Representative Lewis and the Consul General another round of applause. The Consul General has graciously agreed to take photographs with each Member. He will be down here in the well and will take pictures with whoever desires. Leader Manley is back in the Chair."
"Leader Hernandez on a Motion." Hernandez, L.: "Speaker, I move that Representatives Guerrero- Cuellar, Cassidy, Costa Howard, Meier, Jacobs, Sosnowski be allowed to participate and cast their vote remotely."
Speaker Manley: "Leader Hernandez has made a Motion that Representatives Guerrero-Cuellar, Cassidy, Costa Howard, Meier, Jacobs, and Sosnowski be allowed to participate and cast their vote remotely. This is a roll call vote. All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this 10200099.docx 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Motion, there are 78 voting 'yes', 23 voting 'no', and 5 voting 'present'. And the Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk."
Clerk Bolin: "Is Representative Cassidy present? Is Representative Costa Howard present? Is Representative Guerrero-Cuellar present?"
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar is present."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar is present. Is Representative Jacobs present?"
"Jacobs is here."
"Representative Jacobs is present. Is Representative Meier present?"
"Present."
"Representative Meier is present. Is Representative Sosnowski present? Is Representative Cassidy present?"
"Representative Haas, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Point of personal privilege."
"Please proceed."
"So, I want to recognize a few people in the gallery today. My district office staff came down to Springfield to pay a visit. So, these are the folks that really keep things going in my district office. So, I want to recognize Jessica Kinnersley, my district director, Jeremy Pilz, my deputy district director, and two of our interns, Anisa Hampton and Santana Gara. Please give them a warm Springfield welcome."
"Welcome to Springfield. Representative Williams, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Williams, A.: "Point of personal privilege, please."
"Please proceed." 10200099.docx 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Williams, A.: "Ladies and Gentlemen, I wanted to introduce you to two very distinguished guests in the gallery today. First, up to our right here, Ms. Nancy Tenner, who is the kind of person you want to be involved in your community. We prepared a Resolution honoring her for over 50 years of professional and volunteer work in early childhood education and social services. She told me today she was inspired by Robert Kennedy and has been tutoring at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Library in Chicago, to working in several child care facilities all over the state. She has brought her love of service across Illinois for over half a century. Welcome, Ms. Tenner."
Speaker Manley: "Welcome to Springfield. Congratulations. Representative Williams, please continue." Williams, A.: "She is joined by Mr. Vincent Rangel, who is also being presented today with an honorary Resolution thanking him for his military services… military service and commitment to veteran welfare. In the years since his active duty, Mr. Rangel has remained a dedicated advocate for enhanced veteran behavioral health services and represented veterans in schools where he provides an intimate and unique understanding of his experiences in the Vietnam War to share with the younger generations. His civic and volunteer commitments are ongoing and he's been involved in numerous organizations. Thank you so much for your service and welcome to our Capitol."
"Thank you for your service. Chairman Buckner, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to also welcome my district staff to the Capitol. We all know that we are 10200099.docx 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 only as good as the people who work with us, and I want to thank my staff for coming down today. Dulana Reese, Chanel Moore, and Kenya Coleman, welcome to the Capitol, ladies."
Speaker Manley: "Welcome to Springfield. Chair recognizes Representative Avelar. For what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Point of personal privilege, Madam Speaker."
"Please proceed."
"Thank you. I want to… big warm welcome to the Lewis University nursing students and faculty that have traveled all the way from the 85th District. They are here to support the American Nurses Association, Illinois Chapter, Student Nurse Political Action Day. So, I'm very happy to have them here. Thank you so much for coming. If we could just give them a big round of applause. Thank you for all of your work."
"Go Flyers. Welcome to Springfield. On page 13 of the Calendar, under Order of Resolutions, appears House Resolution 699, offered by Representative Halpin. Representative Halpin."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. For all of us today, we have an opportunity for a one-of-a-kind attraction here in the State of Illinois. As you may know, the Illinois Department of Transportation is preparing to replace the current Interstate 80 bridge over the Mississippi River. And so, a proposal has been made to use the existing bridge as a wildlife crossing connecting preservation areas on each side of the river in both Iowa and Illinois that will be a home to American bison. The Bison Bridge Foundation has developed thoughtful plans to make sure this outside-the-box idea and 10200099.docx 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 turned it into a reality. It is a mammoth undertaking, yet achievable. The Bison Bridge Foundation is not asking for a penny of state or federal money. Indeed, this project could save the state tens of millions of dollars by not having to demolish and remove the existing bridge. This kind of project can help with tourism, attract young people to live and work in Illinois, and improve the quality of life for residents already here. More than 38 thousand people have signed a petition supporting this project and it enjoys bipartisan support on both the state and federal levels. It behooves us to support this as a Body. This Resolution, HR699, urges the Governor and Secretary of Transportation to develop plans for Interstate 80 that include this project. Please join me in support for a project that will answer the question, where is the Bison Bridge? Quad Cities, that's where. Thank you, Members. I appreciate a favorable vote."
"Chair recognizes Representative McCombie."
"Thank you, Speaker. Just to the Bill. I'd like to thank Representative Halpin. I'm not sure why the advocates didn't ask me to carry this. However, he did. So, I certainly want to… on my side of the aisle, this is a fantastic idea. And if you are able to go online and check it out, please do so. And I also want to thank Representative Maurice for his support as well. Thank you."
"Representative Halpin moves for the adoption of House Resolution 699. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk."
"Is Representative Cassidy present?" 10200099.docx 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Cassidy is present."
"Representative Cassidy is present."
"Under the Order of Agreed Resolutions appears House Resolution 791, offered by Representative Ammons. Representative Ammons is recognized."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. If I can ask our Members to turn their attention very carefully to the Speaker's Gallery. To our Members, if you would turn your attention to the Speaker's Gallery. Thank you. It is my deepest pleasure to present to you all House Resolution #791. WHEREAS, The members of the Illinois House of Representatives wish to congratulate the 2021-2022 Fighting Illini Men's Basketball Team on a historic season; and WHEREAS, The Fighting Illini won the 2022 Big Ten Championship for the program's 18th conference title while earning the No. 1 seed for the Big Ten Tournament; and WHEREAS, Coach Brad Underwood has led the Fighting Illini back to national prominence with NCAA Tournament appearances in both 2021 with a No. 1 seed and in 2022 with a No. 4 seed; and WHEREAS, Coach Underwood won his 200th career game with a 93-85 victory at Michigan on February 27, 2022; and WHEREAS, Team member Kofi Cockburn was a unanimous selection for First-Team All-America and First-Team All-Big Ten, after being the only player in the nation to average 20+ points and 10+ rebounds; and WHEREAS, Team member Trent Frazier was selected for Second-Team All-Big Ten and finished his Illini career as the school's 10200099.docx 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 fifth all-time leading scorer with 1,794 points, while starting in a school-record 138 games; and WHEREAS, Team member Alfonso Plummer was Third-Team All-Big Ten after finishing as the Illini's second leading scorer at 14.6 points per game and leading the Big Ten in three-point field goals; and WHEREAS, This entire team brought a season of joy, enthusiasm, and excitement to thousands of fans and friends across the state, throughout the nation, and around the world; therefore, be it RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ONE HUNDRED SECOND GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that we congratulate the 2021-2022 Fighting Illini Men's Basketball Team on a historic season; and be it further RESOLVED, That we are already looking forward to tipping off the 2022-2023 season; and be it further RESOLVED, That suitable copies of this resolution be presented to Coach Underwood, members of the staff, and all members of the team as an expression of our gratitude. Help me to congratulate the Illini in the House. Thank you, thank you, thank you."
Speaker Manley: "Representative Reick, do you rise on the Resolution?"
"I certainly do."
"Please proceed."
"Fellas, I tried out for the Illini team in 1972 as a walk- on. I gave up after one practice. I've been a fan all my life. We've gone through some dark times. I can't believe that we're standing here with that trophy there. Gentlemen, you are to 10200099.docx 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 be commended for bringing Illinois out of the wilderness and I hope, I hope that we see you next year in the promised land. Congratulations, and God bless you."
Speaker Manley: "Representative West, do you rise on the Resolution?"
"Yes, Ma'am."
"Please proceed."
"I want to congratulate the U of I basketball team and invite you to 8 p.m. basketball tonight at Boys and Girls Club against Legislators. If you all want to get dealt with by Legislators, come through at the Boys and Girls Club. But congratulations once again."
"Representative Scherer, do you rise on the Resolution?"
"Oh my goodness, this is like a dream come true for me. Yes, on the Resolution. I'm so excited. I'm like tongue-tied here. So, I want you to know that every day of our lives my son, my daughter, and I text about what is going on in Illini Nation and my favorite Christmas present was a new pair of orange and blue Illini socks. And we've got Kam Buckner, my best Illini friend in the House, right in front of me. So, we can't tell you how happy we are that you are here to spend part of your day with us. It is just… it's just unbelievable. Thank you."
"This Resolution was adopted on a previous day. Thank you, Members, and congratulations. Representative Kifowit, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Point of personal privilege."
"Please proceed." 10200099.docx 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Thank you. Members, I am humbly asking you, tomorrow… since we are not in Session near Memorial Day, tomorrow we will do a service to honor those who served our country and lost their lives. Major General Neely is going to be part of the ceremony and his time is very tight. He only has… to be here at noon and then he has to leave shortly after the ceremony. So, Members, I know that things have been delayed. I'm just going to leave it with that. But I am asking you please, please if we can be to the House Floor around 11:45, 11:50 so that the ceremony could start promptly at noon to be respectful of Major Neely's time. He is honored to be on the House Floor and would really like to participate in our ceremony. If we go later and we don't start on time, he might have to leave due to another meeting. So, Major Neely is the commander. He is in charge of the Illinois National Guard and it is an honor that he has given his time for us. So, thank you, Members. Again, if we could try to be on the House Floor prior to noon so that we can start the memorial service, that would be wonderful. Thank you, Madam Speaker."
"On page 13 of the Calendar, under the Order of Resolutions, House Resolution 639, Representative Guzzardi. It's a Resolution, take your time. I like this though."
"Madam Speaker, good afternoon. Thank you for your patience. Thank you, Body. House Resolution 639 establishes the Young Workers' Bill of Rights. This Resolution recognizes the fact that young workers entering into the job market are facing a lot of instability and vulnerability and it encourages that this Body to adopt a bill of rights for these young workers that would ensure that the jobs that they're 10200099.docx 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 entering into the workforce to participate in provide decent pay benefits and protections for workers to ensure that everybody can have a quality job and a high quality of life. I urge an 'aye' vote."
"Seeing no further discussion, Representative Guzzardi moves for the adoption of House Resolution 639. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 691, Leader Andrade. Leader Andrade. Out of the record. House Resolution 662, Representative Guerrero-Cuellar. Representative Cuellar."
"Thank you, Speaker. House Resolution 662 is a day dedicated to Vicente Hernandez. He is a very… he is a tribute to the Mexican culture. We are honoring his day as he has passed. He has brought the Mexican culture into the State of Illinois and he has also brought one (unintelligible) component to it, is to honor our Mexican heritage not only with music but also with something that is known as Charreria, which is also the horseback riding and the performance of horses. And so, I ask the Body to adopt the Resolution, and I request an 'aye' vote."
"Seeing no further discussion, Representative Guerrero-Cuellar moves for the adoption of House Resolution 662. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. And in the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 709, Representative Ann Williams. Representative Ann Williams. How many people can fit in that back room? Take your time. Representative Williams on the Resolution." 10200099.docx 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Williams, A.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker, and I apologize for the delay. We were clearly discussing the Resolutions in the back room. This Bill simply recognizes February, which has passed, as Girls & Women in Sports Month. And certainly, we've had a lot of conversations about the importance of sports for women, girls, and youth in general. It celebrates our Chicago and Illinois sports teams for women and girls and urges women and girl athletes at all levels to continue their competition and growth. Thank you."
Speaker Manley: "There being no further discussion, Representative Williams moves for the adoption of House Resolution 709. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 711, Leader Hoffman. Leader Hoffman."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Resolution simply condemns Russia for its actions in Ukraine and resolves that the State of Illinois or local governments would divest themselves of any investments made by the State Board of Investments and any state or local retirement fund that are directly or indirectly related to Russia to show solidarity with the people of Ukraine. I ask for adoption."
Speaker Manley: "There being no further discussion, Representative Hoffman moves for the adoption of House Resolution 711. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Leader Demmer."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A point of personal privilege." 10200099.docx 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Please proceed."
"Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd like to welcome some guests here to the gallery. Sitting up just behind me here is a large group of student nurses from the NIU School of Nursing. They're here for Nurses Political Action Day. They're led with their chair, Dr. Susan Caplan. This is a group that I was very glad to meet with. My wife is a graduate of the NIU School of Nursing and many of her good friends are also from that program. They provide great care to health care settings all across the State of Illinois, and I hope you'll join me in welcoming them to their Capitol."
"Welcome to Springfield. House Resolution 759, Representative Lilly. Representative Lilly. Out of the record. Senate Joint Resolution #3, Chairman Buckner. Please proceed."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Joint Resolution 3 is a initiative that we worked on with the AFL-CIO. And what it's urging the Architect of the State Capitol to do is to put a plaque in memory of a speech that the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. gave at the Springfield Armory across the street here. Happy to answer any questions."
"Chair recognizes Leader Butler."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. And to the Resolution. Representative Buckner, thank you for bringing this forward. The speech that Dr. King gave here was a very significant speech and this has been an idea we've had for a while to commemorate that speech. I would just like to highlight something I mentioned to Representative Flowers, Chair Flowers, the Statues and Monuments Task Force. Having a better 10200099.docx 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 location for the MLK, Jr. statue than across the street under the trees at the library, we need to do a better job with that. That corner at Second and Monroe by the Armory would be a great spot for that revitalized statue if we ever do it. And I look forward to the Armory Building being revitalized and having folks in there again soon. So, thank you for doing this."
Speaker Manley: "There being no further discussion, Representative Buckner moves for the adoption of House Resolution… I'm sorry… Senate Joint Resolution 3. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. On page 3 of the Calendar, House Bills on Second Reading, House Bill 1293, Representative LaPointe. Representative LaPointe. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1293, a Bill for an Act concerning government. The Bill was read for a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #5 is offered by Representative LaPointe."
"Representative LaPointe on the Amendment."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Amendment 5 to HB1293 is our Illinois response to the devastation and heartbreak that the world is witnessing in Ukraine caused by Russia, more specifically caused by the leadership of Russia. It has been heart-wrenching to see the images, videos, and calls for help that are coming out of Ukraine over the past six weeks. Innocent civilians, people, children, babies… babies have been caught in the crossfire of a cruel and avoidable war. Children, grandmothers, friends, babies are all hurting with 10200099.docx 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 their lives upended with no clear end in sight right now. Ukrainians who have had their lives upended, destroyed due to the unchecked power of Russia, they are people like us who happen to be living on the other side of the world. We cannot sit back and just wait for this to be over. We, in Illinois, have to use our toolbox to do our part. As one of the most comprehensive state responses in the country, this Bill is a part of our part. And although it won't be enough, I consider it a must-do. This Bill addresses the war in Ukraine through five primary mechanisms. It puts Illinois on a path to divest from Russian stocks and sovereign debt, including money in our Teacher Retirement System and funds that our Illinois State Board of Investments overseas. And this divestment also includes Belarus. The Bill grants our Department of Human Services emergency rulemaking powers so refugee resettlement programs can meet the needs of Ukrainians, with the goal to make it easier to provide health care, mental health services, and English… excuse me, English language assistance to Ukrainian nationals who are granted temporary protected status or refugee status. The Bill creates a Money Laundering in Real Estate Task Force charged with accessing the exposure of residential, industrial, and commercial real estate sectors in Illinois to elicit Russian money, including luxury real estate in Chicago but also properties downstate that we often overlook. The Bill creates an elections… an Illinois Elections and Infrastructure Integrity Task Force. And that task force will evaluate foreign actor interference in recent elections in Illinois and will make recommendations to prevent foreign interference in 2024 and beyond and to prevent 10200099.docx 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 cyberattacks on state infrastructure. And then finally, the Bill requires each public institution of higher education to disclose to the Illinois Board of Higher Education any endowment or other donation from a source associated with any individual entity listed on the sanctions list maintained by the U.S. Department of Treasury's Office of Foreign Asset Control or any company that is domiciled or has its principle place of business in Russia or Belarus and is on the list of restricted companies developed by the Illinois Investment Policy Board. This Bill in itself is not going to end the war in Ukraine, but it's a way to harness our collective power and do everything we can in Illinois to make a statement to support Ukrainian people. Happy to answer any questions, Madam Speaker."
"Leader Wheeler and Butler, I'd like to adopt the Amendment and discuss it on Third. Representative LaPointe moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #5 to House Bill 1293. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1293, a Bill for an Act concerning government. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Representative LaPointe, you… that was the Bill, correct?
"Correct."
"We can move to questions?"
"Yes, please, Madam Speaker." 10200099.docx 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Leader Wheeler is recognized."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates that she will."
"Representative LaPointe, I want to personally thank you for your collaboration. Members, you may have seen there were five Amendments to this Bill. It was a working back and forth in good faith effort, repeatedly, among our staffs to get us to a great place in this Bill. I just want to thank you again, personally. There's some points… and I just want to say, you were great. Is there anyone that added that part of it as far as the collaboration that went on there? 'Cause that's what we're supposed to be doing. And I just want to say thank you again for that. If you want to add any to that, you're welcome to right now."
"I appreciate the process we all went through in short order. To me, what is going on in Ukraine and what we are going to do as our response in Illinois is grave. It's really important. And so, it's really important that we work together to do everything we can in Illinois."
"And that's why I really wanted… I was hoping you were going to say something just like that because this really is… this is a Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is… we do Resolutions that say what we feel and things that we think are important. This is a Bill that does something. This is the action we take because of those Resolutions. There are elements of this Bill that, in collaboration and conversations, that bringing forth a whole cybersecurity element that's vital for us, going forward, to maintain our sovereignty as a nation and our state. This is something that 10200099.docx 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 we should all be engaged of and grateful for. I'm proud of the work that's done here. I look forward to Leader Butler's comments as well. Representative LaPointe, thank you. I urge an 'aye' vote."
"Chair recognizes Leader Butler."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. To the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"And I just want to… I just want to echo what Representative Wheeler said and your work, Representative LaPointe, on this Bill. There's a reason there's been five Amendments, because you've had a lot of input from our side and your side that we appreciate on this. And I especially appreciate your willingness to discuss the Election Integrity Task Force portion of this and the Money Laundering Task Force, with adding some folks to both of those. There was some provisions that you took out that I think some folks probably would have been concerned about, potentially on our side, that were taken out. But I just want to remind the Body on the election integrity front, we have 108 election authorities in the State of Illinois that do great work around the state, but they've got foreign actors all the time trying to get into their systems. It happened here in Illinois in 2016. As we know, the Russians hacked into our state election systems, got data out of the state election systems. And so, this task force will be taking a look at how we can have secure systems in the State of Illinois. I know our county clerks and our election officials across the state do a great job, but that doesn't mean we can't continue to look forward to have good systems in place. But the meat of this Bill is 10200099.docx 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 about going after Russia on the things that we can do as the State of Illinois, and I truly appreciate that. All one has to do is look at your laptops and Google Bucha and see what has happened into that suburb of Kyiv over the last few days since the Russians have pulled out to see what's really happening there. The atrocities that have happened are just mind-numbing in this day and age to see that that kind of thing happens. And I think all of us have to look at that and say, we need to do whatever we can as elected officials to respond in the way that we should. I spoke on this early and said we need to encourage our Members of Congress to stand tall and standfast against Russia. I worry about what they're doing because the Ukrainian people… as I said, we've hosted many members, young leaders in Ukraine, in this very chamber that come to Springfield to learn about democracy and free markets. And one of those… one of those people that I hosted here in 2018 was one of the mayors that was abducted by Russians. He stood right in this well. Luckily, he… Ukrainian special forces were able to find where he was and they got him out and he's safe. But this is real-world stuff and we as Americans need to defend democracy, we need to defend Ukraine and all we can. So, I thank you for this Bill because it's our little way as State Legislators to do something for the people of Ukraine and make sure we're doing the right thing. So, thank you, Representative LaPointe. And I would urge an 'aye' vote."
"Chair recognizes Representative Ramirez."
"Madam Speaker, to the Bill."
"To the Bill." 10200099.docx 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, many of us have wondered what we can do to stand in support, in solidarity with the people of Ukraine. I am glad to see, as my colleagues have said, that today we are taking a clear stand in Illinois. I am proud to stand on this floor today as a chief cosponsor of House Bill 1293. This Bill makes it clear that we will use our authority as state elected officials to affirm our support for the people of Ukraine and to hold Vladimir Putin accountable. This legislation will ensure that our state sends a firm message of rebuke to Vladimir Putin and the Russian oligarchs supporting his war in Ukraine. We will divest state funds from Russian and Belarusian corporation and securities. We will create a task force to ensure that Russian oligarchs are not abusing our real estate system to launder money for their war. And we will give the Department of Human Services emergency rulemaking power so that we are prepared for a refugee crisis arising from this conflict. This is the work of the people. And I want to personally thank the chief Sponsor of this legislation, Representative LaPointe, for all of your work, the endless hours that you have spent talking to so many people and making sure that Illinois, again, is a leader in standing for justice. I want to affirm my support, and on behalf of the community that I get to, by honor, serve the Ukrainian Village community in Chicago, Illinois. This Bill is a good Bill, and I urge an 'aye' vote."
"Chair recognizes Representative Davidsmeyer."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates she will." 10200099.docx 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Many of you know that when I stand up and speak on the House Floor, most often, unfortunately, I'm speaking in opposition to a Bill. Some may see it as more of a slap in the face because I'm very straightforward in how I talk. Today, I'm here, not as a slap in the face, but as a pat on the back for the work that you've done on this Bill, Representative LaPointe. It is good to see that when good legislation can be made better, we can pull it from the record, not take an immediate vote, and come back with an even better Bill. I hope that this will be a lesson to this Body on how we can better serve our constituents together. So, pat on the back. I really appreciate your willingness to pull it from a vote in Exec Committee and come back with another Amendment that will fix the Bill and make it even stronger to show our support for the Ukrainian people. Thank you."
"Representative LaPointe… pardon me. Mr. Clerk."
"Is Representative Costa Howard present?"
"Representative Costa Howard, present."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard is present. Is Representative Sosnowski present?"
"Present."
"Representative Sosnowski, please turn your video on."
"Video is on. Present."
"Representative Sosnowski is present."
"Representative LaPointe to close."
"As my colleagues have recognized in the discussion, this is how we in Illinois can hold Vladimir Putin accountable 10200099.docx 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 and show our support for the Ukrainian people, people who are just like us who happen to live on the other side of the world. Residents all across Illinois in our districts, including children, including small business owners, have watched in horror and despair and asked themselves, what can I do? What can we do? And then they have stepped up and they have acted with marches, with speeches, with fundraising efforts, with sending supplies to Ukraine. Today, we use our power in the Illinois General Assembly to do the same with action, with the ultimate goal of a swift end to this horrific war and compassionate and tangible support for every Ukrainian. I urge an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1293 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Cassidy. Representative Costa Howard."
"I'm sorry. Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs is 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'." Representative Meier." 10200099.docx 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Yes."
"Representative Meier votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1097, Representative Elizabeth Hernandez. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1097, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. The Bill was read for a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Lisa Hernandez."
"Leader Hernandez on the Amendment." Hernandez, L.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker, and you can call me Lisa. House Floor Amendment #1 is a gut and replace Amendment creating a two-year extension for certain eavesdropping exemptions and for the Illinois Street Gang and Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organizations Law. There are… these are law enforcement tools that the General Assembly reauthorizes every few years to have oversight. I know of no concerns, so I ask for your 'aye' vote."
"Seeing no discussion, Representative Hernandez moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1097. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the 10200099.docx 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1097, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Leader Hernandez." Hernandez, L.: "The Amendment makes the Bill. I explained it. I ask for your 'aye' vote."
"Chair recognizes Representative Windhorst."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Leader Hernandez, I'd like to thank you for bringing this Bill forward and taking ideas that have been put forward by Republicans. I have a Bill that actually eliminates the sunset, which I would prefer, but I do appreciate the extension on the eavesdropping sunsets. It's a valuable tool for prosecutors in the court system, and I'm glad that it'll be able to be used with this extension. Thank you."
"Leader Hernandez to close." Hernandez, L.: "Once again, I ask for your 'aye' vote. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1097 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting's open. Mr. Clerk."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Cassidy. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes." 10200099.docx 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs is 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Meier."
"Yes."
"Representative Meier votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'. Representative Cassidy."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting in 'favor', 2 voting 'against', and 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1568, Representative Vella. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1568, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. The Bill was read for a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendments 1 and 2 have been approved for consideration. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Vella."
"Representative Vella on the Amendment."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Amendment 1 is a gut and replace Amendment. What it does is it's a collection of ideas focused on recruitment and retention of police officers across the State of Illinois. It's broken up into four pieces. One is initiatives to keep experienced officers by creating… 10200099.docx 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 closing loopholes in the retirement programs. The second is an initiative to get ideas for recruitment and retention from an Illinois Law Enforcement Recruitment and Retention Board. Third is a path from high school to police to connect our CLE courses in high school to our community colleges and beyond so that we can have a pipeline of young cadets coming into the police forces. And finally, there's a provision to honor those who have served by allowing retired sheriffs, investigators, and others to purchase their badges and service weapons. I believe this is supported by the FOP, ISP, and the Illinois Sheriffs' Association. There was no votes against in committee."
"Chair recognizes Leader Batinick."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Republicans request a 30-minute caucus."
"The Republicans will caucus in Room 118."
"Yeah, they don't do a good job. I want this on the record right now. I'm pretty upset about this. The numbering of the rooms make no sense on the first floor."
"Maybe you could fix that before you go."
"Thank you."
"Democrats will stand at ease. The House will stand in recess to the call of the Chair. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."
Clerk Hollman: "Committee Reports. Representative Harris, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, referred to the floor is Floor Amendment(s) 3 to House Bill 1095, Floor Amendment(s) 4 to House Bill 1100; 10200099.docx 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 recommends be adopted is the Motion to concur with Senate Amendment(s) 1 to House Bill 3988."
"Representative Greenwood for an announcement."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representative Carol Ammons in excused for the remainder of the day."
"The record shall so reflect. Back to House Bill 1568, Representative Vella."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I explained the Amendment. I'm happy to debate it on Third. I'm moving to adopt the Amendment."
"The Chair recognizes Leader Spain."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. An inquiry of the Chair. Could you tell me the status of Floor Amendment #3 to House Bill 1568?"
"Mr. Clerk."
"Floor Amendment #3 was filed today and is in the Rules Committee."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I move to discharge Floor Amendment #3 to House Bill 1568 from the Rules Committee. And I wish to request a recorded vote, Madam Speaker."
"Representative Gong-Gershowitz."
"I object to the Motion."
"Leader Spain, your… requires unanimous consent, and we do not have that."
"Madam Speaker, in this Body we see Motions that are introduced, they are accelerated with the full speed and support of the Speaker's Office, delivered and ushered through committee in a single day, but Motions such as the 10200099.docx 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Amendment, House Amendment 3 to this Bill, is locked up and bottled up in the Rules Committee. Previous Bills that have been introduced months ago have suffered the same fate, discussions that need to take place in this Body. And it's so disappointing that we can't have engagement on the real issues that are affecting the State of Illinois right now. Now, Representative Vella, you have a Bill here that we are going to debate on Third that focuses on something that's very, very serious in the State of Illinois. Crime, public safety, the exodus of law enforcement officers from the profession and from the State of Illinois. And I think that it is important that we focus on the root cause of what has created the crisis that we're in, in the State of Illinois right now. You know, they say we should never waste a crisis in government, but we should also not cause that crisis. And, Representative Vella, you were here on January 13, preparing to take the oath of office, while the Members, your colleagues in this Body, passed House Bill 3653 under the most bizarre and disappointing circumstances that I have ever seen as a Member of this chamber. So, I hope that as you present this Bill on Third and you talk about how you wish to incentivize law enforcement in the State of Illinois, that you'll take the opportunity to go on the record about House Bill 4653. And we get serious about addressing the reason that we're going to spend the rest of the evening talking about how to rebuild law enforcement in the State of Illinois. And it is because of the actions, the shameful actions of Members of this Body of the Majority Party to pass House Bill 3653, damaging and putting the state on such a dangerous course 10200099.docx 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 that has resulted in our communities less safe and our police officers repelled from the communities they serve. Thank you."
"Representative Vella moves for the adoption of Floor (sic-Amendment) #1 to House Bill 1568. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Vella."
"Representative Vella on the Amendment."
"Hold on one second, please. Actually, could I… I move to adopt Floor Amendment #2, please."
"Could you explain the Amendment just a little?"
"It's a gut and replace Amendment. Upon adoption, it becomes the Bill. Specifically, as the Superintendent of the Chicago Police Department, or their designee, the Illinois Law Enforcement Recruitment and Retention Board. The Amendment also broadens the study on establishing minimum requirements for credit transfers to include public colleges in addition to community colleges."
"Representative Vella moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 2 to House Bill 1568. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment 2 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments have been approved for consideration. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10200099.docx 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"House Bill 1568, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Representative Vella."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Amendment… when I talked about House Amendment 1 and House Amendment 2, I feel I got through the main ideas of it. It is a collection of ideas focused on recruitment and retention of police officers. I have spent half of my life with police officers. I have… some of my best friends are police officers. I have worked alongside them. I have been in courtrooms with them. I have spent, along with members of the public safety working group, talking to officers from across all stripes and across all regions of our state. These are great ideas to bring new officers to the force and to keep good officers on the force. I'm open to any questions."
"Chair recognizes Representative Tarver."
"Thank you, Madam Chair. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates that he will."
"Thank you. Don’t worry, just a couple quick ones, Dave. So, I didn't have a long time to review this, as you know, although I asked for a month and a half in caucus about not dropping Bills at the last minute that we wouldn't be able to review. But here we are today. So, I'm just trying to understand this. The Board is going to review proposals and award grants. Is that right?"
"That is correct."
"Okay. Just in general, it seems like the makeup of the board of individuals or entities that would normally be 10200099.docx 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 applying for grants and not reviewing and administering grants. So, what's the thought there?"
"I'm sorry. Could you repeat the question?"
"Yeah. So, when I look at law enforcement officers downstate, chief of police, so on, these are typically the entities that apply to the state and other entities… and other levels of government for grants, right? I'm just trying to understand, when do they get the expertise to review proposing and award grants out?"
"Well, the reason why we picked them… well, first of all, I would point out that a lot of these people are being… are being proposed by Democrats and a lot of them are being proposed by Republicans. There are sheriffs, chiefs of police, ISP members, and also members of ILETSB."
"Right."
"The idea was these are the ones closest to the police job problem so they have the best idea of the best way to bring workers in and retain them. So, they're the ones on the front lines trying to make sure that the jobs are filled and kept filled."
"But what does that have to do with reviewing, proposing, and awarding grants? I get that they, administratively… you know, in a certain role. I'm trying to understand… 'cause it's confusing for me. At one point, you're saying nonprofit entities that have to have established experience in recruitment and retention efforts in Illinois. Is that specific to law enforcement? They have to have experience in recruitment in law enforcement, the nonprofit?" 10200099.docx 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Well, that's right. A nonprofit that focuses on recruitment and retention of law enforcement officers. That's the whole point of this grant program is to try to find… the idea be it so… the City of Chicago has a different idea of what they need and how to get new officers than the City of Rockford, than the City of Peoria. So, you want to have people in those areas, nonprofits and also people who are actually working in this field, to have good ideas to come up with to retain new officers."
"How many of those nonprofits would you say exist right now, today, that focus on police retention and recruitment?"
"I have no idea. I don't know."
"Right. I think that's a problem. How many did you estimate? 'Cause we know what the makeup of the forces look like. How many of those do you think have some level of diversity? I mean nonwhite male."
"Well, I think now that we are putting this out there, I think there's a very good chance that people will be coming forward because we know that part of what we want is as a diverse workforce is possible in the police space. And if nonprofits come forward with good ideas for recruitment and retention, we want to listen to them. So, I think this will spur nonprofits coming forward."
"I think that's a great point and that's where I'm going with it. It may spur nonprofits to come forward, but plenty of them will not already have this experience. So, what are we doing to ensure down the road, after we get a year or two out and these grants are out there, that maybe nonprofits that specialize in recruitment and retention efforts maybe 10200099.docx 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 outside of law enforcement who want to get into this space. Right? Because if right now… if this is going to be similar to… and I'm not saying this is your intent. But if this is similar to when we passed cannabis and it was like, hey, if you want a license for recreational, you have to already have medical. And everybody was already just white males in medical. My concern is these nonprofits who must be already in this space, already existing in this space are the only ones who will eat from the opportunity for the retention and recruitment of law enforcement. And I don’t know that those entities are going to be focused on the folks who look like me."
"I can tell you that from my talking to my friends in the law enforcement community and for the last six months speaking with them, I can tell you that the people that are out there looking are looking for people who look like you, who look like me, who look like everybody in this House. However, I will commit that it's important to me that our law enforcement be as diverse and as reflective of our community as possible. And I will… I commit to making sure that this program does not just go, as you say, just to white people. It goes to people across the spectrum."
"Okay. So, it sounds like we're saying here on the record that you are committed to work… 'cause I did this before and everybody's in here committed to not…"
"Yeah, but I wasn't here last…"
"No, no, no, no, you were here for this. Just wait for it, you were here for this. Give me 30 seconds or less. Everybody went out on a bipartisan Bill saying, hey, we did 10200099.docx 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 not mean to exclude individuals who have disabilities. We did not mean to exclude them, right? And then we turned around, we filed the Bill, and it's on Postponed Consideration because everybody turned around and voted to allow individuals with disabilities to have police use deception against them. So, I don't have a good record of talking to people on the floor, agreeing to work on a Bill, and then they actually do it. So, I'm just going to ask you here on the record, man to man, because we sit close to each other as well, I'll tap you on the shoulder. Will you commit to me that, as this program moves forward, we'll work to ensure that nonprofits, particularly those of color or some diversity who are not already in this space, will have an opportunity to participate in this space?"
"I commit, and I just wrote it down on my notes. So, I will definitely do it."
"You're the man. I appreciate you."
"All right."
"Chair recognizes Representative McCombie."
"Thank you, Speaker. To the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"Yesterday, Representative Vella was in a press conference downstairs and he started off, and I'm going to quote this, 'The old way? We have a new way. The old way, the people on the other side of the aisle are throwing out things that don't work.' Well, Sir, that's very rich because us people, us Republicans, have not been in control of this House to throw anything out to be heard. You further state when asked about Republicans views on it, and I quote, 'We always 10200099.docx 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 try to be open to all ideas. But the ideas come out of the other side is just more putting people in jail and that's not working. It cost the taxpayers too much money.' Open to all ideas? But again, we weren't asked. Some of your colleagues that are smarter than you on the issues were not included in these conversations. However, many of the measures we're going to hear today, including this one like we talked about in committee today and the one before this one, actually has Republican language in it. Actually has Republican language in it, but we don't like the old way. And, Sir, if you have any plans with working with me when I come to Winnebago County, you better stop the fake rhetoric. I'm serious. If you want to have conversation, if you want to work to make Illinois better, I suggest you don't do that. And if you really want to support law enforcement like you say you do, then vote to repeal the SAFE-T Act."
"Chair recognizes Representative Ford."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates that he will."
"I just have one question, Representative. There is a provision that you're calling the repeal to the Representation Without Population Act. What is that?"
"That's from House Amendment 3 that's not been discharged. That's not my…"
"Oh, that's not in it?"
"No, not at all."
"All right. But is that to repeal…"
"I have no… I have no idea. I haven't… I don't know what it is." 10200099.docx 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"But it's not going to be…"
"It's… I…"
"All right. Thank you for not letting that be a part of the Bill."
"Chair recognizes… Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."
"Rules Report. Representative Harris, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, referred to the floor is Floor Amendment(s) 3 to House Bill 1571."
Speaker Manley: "The Chair recognizes Representative Davidsmeyer."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I almost lost my train of thought there. I think I recall my questions. A question of the Sponsor?"
"Go right ahead."
"Thank you. So, I'm going to piggyback on something a prior Representative said about this is the new way of doing things. Now, there's a portion in here that says, and I believe they call it the drop, where an individual who could retire at 55 can stay for up to 5 years. They will get their full salary and their full pension, but their full pension will stay in a separate account which they will get at a later time, correct?"
"Correct."
"Basically double-dipping, right?"
"No. No."
"Okay."
"That's not true. That's… that's false." 10200099.docx 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"So, they're getting retirement credit for time when they're actually serving in the police department?"
"All right. So, I'll explain it. So…"
"Thank you."
"…they work till they're 55. They are done with… they stop paying into their retirement. Their retirement money goes into an interest-bearing account. Okay?"
"Just their contribution?"
"Hold on. Hold on."
"Just their contribution?"
"Yeah. And then they keep working. Because here's the thing, we want new young officers, but we also want officers who have experience. So, we want to keep the experienced officers there. So, I went to the chiefs and I went to the sheriffs and we all did in the Public Safety Working Group and we said, 'How to… what's the best way to incentivize them to stay?' And they said this. So, they will keep working. It is revenue neutral. They will then… whatever money… they will continue to put money into this interest-bearing account, and then after the five years they leave. They're not double- dipping in any way, shape, or form."
"Okay. I have something that says SERS System officials did not have an official fiscal impact, but they estimated that the DROP changes could increase state pension liabilities by roughly 30 to 50 million dollars if the changes were made permanent. Additionally, they indicated that the decrease in retirement age would have an impact of roughly 250 to 350 million dollars in increased liabilities. The reason why I said I wanted to piggyback on one of the prior 10200099.docx 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Representatives, what they said was, in your press conference, you said these are the new ways. These are the new ideas. I believe that this Bill was actually pushed for a long time by former Representative Dan Burke for quite some time. Anybody over there that remembers him here, he retired probably, what, six, eight years ago? But he was pushing this idea. So, to say this is a new idea is pretty disingenuous."
"Is there… is there a question there? I don't think I'm being disingenuous."
"No. I'm just… I'm just making a quick comment. You don't have to respond. I appreciate it. The other section that I had a question about was a retired officer's ability to keep their badge and their service weapon."
"Yes."
"I passed a Bill probably six or seven years ago that allowed police officers… or actually required a department to offer the badge and service weapon to the individual, where the person has to purchase it. Like the officer actually has to purchase it, which allows the departments to update their weapons so they're not concerned about having old weapons in their cache. So, what does this do that's different? Who does this provide that opportunity for now that were not provided that prior to this legislation?"
"It's my understanding, from reading the law and from talking to the stakeholders, sheriffs, investigators, security employees, and probation officers."
"So, we're talking Department of Revenue investigators?" 10200099.docx 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"That's one of the many, many people, yes. I'm sure… I mean… so, again, I've worked with probation officers who've spent their lives, you know, in the courtrooms working with people and I think that they deserve to keep their badges. I mean, they put their lives on the line everyday going out to a lot of these toughest neighborhoods in the cities, they deserve that. Probation officers, sheriffs, security employees, investigators, yeah."
"The Department of Revenue investigators and Department of Gaming investigators, you know, these are people who are fighting those hardened criminals that might have weapons, right? I think… I don't think this is very well thought out."
"Well, I'm sorry. I didn't understand. Who, what?"
"Department of Revenue investigators. Department of Gaming."
"Yeah, apparently they're… they're considered law enforcement."
"The Gaming Board investigators."
"They carry guns. They carry guns. They can arrest people so…"
"I… I understand. A lot of them are former… former retired law enforcement. But I just think that… I think this is kind of a last-minute thing thrown together in an attempt to backtrack on your lack of support of law enforcement. This has a huge fiscal impact and there is no way that the Senate will ever take this up. So, you know, good luck to you. I hope this helps you in your reelection."
"Chair recognizes Leader Batinick." 10200099.docx 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, for letting me follow that. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"You're welcome."
"Did he indicate that he'd yield? I was waiting for the indication."
"He indicates that he will."
"Okay. Representative, I know they touched upon it before, do you have different numbers? What's the cost of this piece of this legislation? 'Cause you have two parts, this stuff normally goes through Pension Committees. We get a little idea of cost. We like to do some neutral stuff in terms of cost, but you're throwing some stuff on the locals here. You've got SERS and IMRF employees that are hit. So, what is the cost for the DROP plan and what is the cost of lowering the retirement age from 60 to 55?"
"So, the total cost of both is $7 million a year."
"The total cost of both is $7 million a year?"
"Yes."
"The total cost of lowering the retirement age of all those people from 60 to 55 is $7 million a year, and that includes all the cost to the locals for IMRF?"
"So, it lowers retirement age for the Tier 2 employees from age 60 to 65 (sic-55). Assuming investment returns are leveraged, the estimated cost to the state is 2 to 3 million dollars per year for State Police alone. That will result in a considerable amount over the course of the next 20 years, but it's still 4.3 per year. Eligible employees under the State Police Investigators were an additional three percent compounded COLA. So, it's, yeah, $7 million a year. That's 10200099.docx 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 our numbers. That's what I'm being told. I'm sorry. It's from SERS."
"SERS says the cost of lowering this from 60 to 55 is $7 million?"
"And the DROP program, yes. Together."
"Per year? Together."
"Together."
"What's the cost of the… to IMRF?"
"IMRF provided the language and they said it's revenue neutral."
"How would it be revenue neutral to lower the retirement age from 60 to 55? I kind of thought…"
"But that's not… that's not IMRF. IMRF will be the DROP program."
"It's just State Police, sheriff… well, I'm reading… maybe my analysis is wrong here. It says, 'and sheriff employees and IMRF.'"
"Locals are already at 55."
"For the DROP?"
"The only ones not at 55 would be…"
"Okay. So, the DROP is for locals…"
"Right."
"…but the 60 to 55… the 60 to 55 is just the State Police then?
"That's correct 'cause the rest are at… everybody… that puts the State Police even with everybody else. Everybody else is at 55 now."
"Okay. Thank you for answering my questions."
"Chair recognizes Representative Crespo." 10200099.docx 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates that he will."
"I was going to ask questions about whether the previous speaker asked… I guess we answered that. Let me ask you about the Law Enforcement Recruitment and Retention Fund. You create a new fund, correct?"
"That's correct."
"On page 3, it states that the retention… 'The Law Enforcement Retention Fund is hereby created as a special fund in the State Treasury's Office. Moneys in the fund shall consist of moneys transferred from the General Revenue Fund.'"
"Right."
"How much will be transferred?"
"Right now, it's subject to appropriations. So, it's still being worked on as… right now."
"We don't know?"
"We don't know right now, no."
"And you're saying this is subject to appropriations. Can you tell me where it states that it's subject to appropriations?"
"In the Bill? I don't believe it says that in the Bill."
"In the Bill, yes."
"I'm just saying it out loud. It's subject to appropriations."
"Well, it's pretty important because if it is subject to appropriations, we're at the mercy of having enough General Revenue Fund to fund it. If it's not subject to appropriations, we're pretty much on the hook to come up with 10200099.docx 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 whatever that is. So, can staff tell us where in the document does it say subject to appropriations?"
"All non… all non-approp Bills are subject to appropriation, is what I'm being told by the staff."
"No, that's not true."
"All right."
"Yeah, it's approp sure, so…"
"All right."
"Again, I get it. We don’t know if this is going to work or not. I'm very concerned that it seems that we're going to be required to transfer General Revenue funds to this new fund. We don't know how much it's going to be and we're going to be on the hook for that moving forward. And sometimes we have to make these investments because storing more money to try to fix something is not always the solution, Rep. So… but you might want to check with your staff 'cause it doesn't say anything here about it being subject to appropriations. And by default, if it doesn't state that, we're on the hook for it. Thank you, Speaker."
"Chair recognizes Leader Welter."
"Madam Speaker, Representative Charlie Meier is excused for the day."
"The record will reflect that. Representative Chesney."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. To the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"You know, this is a classic case of the Democrat apology tour. When you all passed HB3653, I told you two years ago people were going to die and people were going to get hurt. 10200099.docx 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 We talked about this two years ago and the cops, the sheriffs, FOP, BP… PBPA all said people were going to get hurt. And rather than listening to the cops, you know what you all did? You took pictures. You all took pictures saying this was a great thing. During COVID, we also said people were going to get hurt and sex offenders and wife beaters and murderers got let go and you said nothing. You did this all in the name of equity. Ladies and Gentlemen, letting people go in our communities is not equity. This criminal behavior must be prosecuted. And the Sponsor said on multiple occasions that Republicans want to lock people up. You're right. If you're a wife beater or murderer or sex offender, I want to lock you up for a very long time. But nine months, when you see what we've done nationally on the Democratic side of the aisle, what you've seen is you've seen the Democrats want to defund the police. And now, you're asking for an apology. So, just call it what it is. This isn't State Government. This is an apology. That's exactly what this is. But you're all suffering from political amnesia. It's exactly what this is. Political amnesia because your policies hurt people and now you want a redo. This Bill will allow cops to retire early. God bless you, Representative Vella. I would too. Who the hell would want to work in the State of Illinois with your policies and your defund the police programs?"
"Representative Chesney, a little decorum."
"That is decorum. People died in my community."
"Representative Chesney…"
"People are dying."
"…bring your remarks to a close." 10200099.docx 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"I certainly will. Y'all lit the place on fire, and now you're trying to take credit for calling the firefighter. And rather than bringing a fire hose, you're bringing damn bottles of water, and you should be ashamed of yourself."
"Chair recognizes Representative McLaughlin."
"Thank you… thank you, Madam Speaker. Just got one question for Representative Vella, if he would yield."
Speaker Manley: "He indicates that he will yield for your questions."
"Representative Vella, as you know, I understand a little bit about pensions, and I'm sitting back here a bit dismayed on your $7 million SERS estimate. Do I understand that that's the number from 55 to 60, the difference? Is that the 7 million that we're talking about? Because I certainly would want to know the number from 60 to 83 and a half, which is the current mortality expectation for people, because I believe that number is going to be substantially higher. Is that calculated in that number? The 7 million."
"It's… the DROP program… the DROP program and the 55… the DROP program was only for 5 years, and the 55 is what it is. This is… I followed the experts at SERS. They said 7 million for both programs. So…"
"So, the question we have, is that normal cost or the total system liability after age 60?"
"That's… basically that'd be the increase in the approp that would be asked for each year. That's what it is."
"So, that's normal cost? Okay. Thank you. I think we're woefully underestimating the liability here and I definitely want that on the record. Thank you." 10200099.docx 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Representative Vella to close."
"I urge an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1568 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs votes 'no'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'no'. Representative Sosnowski."
"No."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'no'. Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 94 voting in 'favor', 5 voting 'against', and 3 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Moving on to page 5, Senate Bills on Third Reading. We have Senate Bill 180, Representative Ann Williams. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, we have an… any… can 10200099.docx 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 you read the Bill? Are there any Amendments? Mr. Clerk, please return this Bill back to Second Reading."
"Senate Bill 180, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. The Bill was read for a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Ann Williams."
"Representative Williams on the Amendment." Williams, A.: "Hi. The Amendment just streamlines some of the language in the original Bill and makes it more easy to… makes it easier to implement. And I'd be happy to discuss it on Third, if that works."
"Representative Williams moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 180. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 180, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."
"Representative Williams." Williams, A.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am really excited today to be able to present this incredibly important and impactful piece of legislation. I have introduced this probably the past three or four terms. This deals with improving access to our Capitol and our legislative process for persons with disabilities, the 2.3 million people with disabilities in Illinois. It's a long time coming. I want to start by thanking Speaker Welch for recognizing the importance of this 10200099.docx 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 legislation and providing support and a path forward. I also want to acknowledge the tenacious, committed advocates for people with disabilities. Amber Smock of Access Living and all the others who have reached out over the years, pushing for support of this important Bill. Actually, those of you who know Amber know that she is deaf. And in order for her to access this floor debate, she has to access certain technology. She was in committee the other day presenting on the Bill and, as usual, experienced some access challenges to participating in the process. But that's not unusual for people with disabilities trying to access the political and legislative process in Illinois. Yes, the Capitol meets ADA compliance guidelines, but many people with disabilities and others have noted the inaccessibility of the Capitol Complex in terms of navigating the buildings and participating in committee hearings and other meetings. Although efforts have been made over the years, certainly, to make the complex physically accessible, it's still really tough for those with disabilities to easily access the Capitol. I heard it just yesterday from a lobbyist we all know and love, who uses a wheelchair to get around the Capitol. Communication access can also be very challenging for anyone who has trouble hearing and speaking. We need to do better for those folks to make sure they can access our legislative process. Right now, if you take a look at the GA Web site, it's hard to know who to contact with accessibility needs, who to reach out to, to ask for reasonable accommodations for floor Sessions, committee work, et cetera. The Web site is difficult for the blind to access. They use certain technology to… called screen 10200099.docx 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 readers to access Web sites, but our Web site's antiquated and it's difficult for people to use. I think it's important to note that other states and even the City of Chicago is starting to pull ahead of us when it comes to accessibility for people with disabilities. That's why this Bill is so critical. Zoom captions, the list of interpreters for the deaf, many other people will be utilizing these services once we make them available and let people know they're available. So, this Bill does a couple quick things. First, we designate point persons in each chamber, both the Senate and the House, that someone with a disability can reach out to affirmatively and ask for reasonable accommodations to access the Capitol or a legislate meetings or hearings. This way they're not having to wing it and call any one of us to scramble to figure out how to access things. Longer term, we implement a working group, which is comprised of Members of both chambers and persons with disabilities, representatives of the Capitol team, to determine ways moving forward to improve access to our Capitol and our legislative process. We need to do more for the 2.3 million people with disabilities in Illinois to make sure they can be part of our process. We don't want to just provide the basic access for these people. We want to welcome them to the process. Happy to answer any questions."
"Chair recognizes Leader Batinick."
"Thank you, Madam… thank you, Madam Speaker. To the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"Great Bill. Vote 'yes'." 10200099.docx 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"That's the way I like it. Chair recognizes Representative West."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. To the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"I just want to implore my colleagues, as we move into a post-pandemic normalcy, this a time for us to be bigger, faster, bolder, stronger in how we operate. And this is… for the members of the disability community, for how… for so long they were on the menu. This legislation allows them to have a seat at the table. I want to thank Representative Williams for her working on this for years. And I would urge an 'aye' vote from both sides of the aisle. Thank you."
"Leader Greenwood is recognized."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Let the record reflect that Mike… Representative Mike Kelly is excused for the remainder of the day."
"The record will reflect that. Representative Williams to close." Williams, A.: "Just a quick thing. This may seem like an easy Bill or something small, but for the people with disabilities this a really big deal. And unfortunately, I didn't have time to let everybody know we're calling it today. But for those of you with disabilities, the message today is that we welcome you to our Capitol. We welcome you to be a part of a legislative process and look forward to that. Thank you so much. Appreciate an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 180 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting is open. Mr. Clerk." 10200099.docx 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs, 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 3416, Leader Evans. Leader Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, please put this Bill back on the Order of Second Reading."
"Senate Bill 3416, a Bill for an Act concerning employment. The Bill was read for a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Evans."
"Leader Evans on the Amendment." 10200099.docx 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Just take it out of the… take the Bill out of the record for a moment."
Speaker Manley: "Out of the record. Senate Bill 3482, Representative Harper. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 3482, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."
"Representative Harper."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 3482 simply requires that all revenue from the operation and use of any facilities of the Illinois State Fair, the Springfield State Fairgrounds, the DuQuoin State Fair, and the DuQuoin State Fairgrounds must be deposited in the Illinois State Fair Fund. I encourage an 'aye' vote."
"Chair recognizes Leader Ramirez."
"Madam Speaker, may the record reflect that I intended to vote 'yes' on House Bill 1568?"
"The record will reflect that. Thank you. Chair recognizes Leader Batinick."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. To the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"Good Bill. Vote 'yes'."
"The… Representative Harper, would you like to close?"
"I encourage an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 3482 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting's open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'." 10200099.docx 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Yes."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Bills on Second Reading, Senate Bill 3416, Leader Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 3416, a Bill for an Act concerning employment. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Evans."
"Leader Evans on the Amendment."
"On the Amendment. Thank you, Madam Speaker and the great Members of this Assembly. This Amendment makes a small change to the One Day Rest in Seven Act. This Amendment asks the CBA exemption to Section 2 of the Act. CBA exemption already exists in Section 3 of the Act concerning meal periods. 10200099.docx 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Similar to the CBA exemption that exists for meal periods, workers would like the opportunity to negotiate rest periods and work weeks with management, especially in specialized areas like oil refineries with maintenance work during shutdown periods, can allow workers to earn overtime and management to complete maintenance work on schedule. I discussed this change with the Department of Labor and they expressed no opposition. This change would greatly benefit many individuals in the trade unions, including, but not limited to, the operators, pipe fitters, boiler makers, IBWs and laborers. These trade unions are typically engaged in turnaround work during maintenance periods. So, I request your support."
"Chair recognizes Representative Davis."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Does Sponsor yield?"
"He… can we move this to Third Reading…"
"Oh, I'm sorry."
"…and then debate it on Third?"
"Absolutely."
"Leader Evans moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 3416. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 3416, a Bill for an Act concerning employment. Third Reading of this Senate Bill." 10200099.docx 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Representative Davis. Look it, you worked that out. So, that's great. Representative Reick."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates that he will."
"Representative, we've talked about this Bill in its first form when it came up dealing with the One Day in Seven Rest. And does this Bill address the objections that were voiced at that time in order to deal with exemptions under the… under that One Day in Seven Rest Bill? I'm sure you remember the discussion we had dealing with filing for exemptions on that Bill."
"That's not my understanding. This Bill is a very, very narrowly tailored. It's just a follow-up to the One Day in Seven Rest. Only trying to help out individuals in specialized industries where, you know, they may work extended period of times, oil refineries, and some of our larger facilities. But it doesn't go into… it's not a redebate of the Bill that's already passed."
"So, how does it help those… how does this Bill help the people in those industries? Can you be a little more specific, please?"
"Yeah. For example, if they're doing, you know, the big… I don’t want get too technical, but if they're doing the big change at the oil refineries or refueling and things like that, it's very difficult to follow specific days off. They kind of work it out through their CBA. So, just a small exemption for those industries."
"So, again, if you recall the objection that I had to the original underlying Bill, was the fact that what we're doing 10200099.docx 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 here is we are injecting state… we're injecting state policy or state control over the establishment of a collective bargaining agreement. And I believe that I'm going to provide… I'm going to voice the same objection this time that I don't think it's our business to get involved in CBA agreements, especially when we're dealing with the kinds of work and jobs that are so critical to our industry here in Illinois. And so, I guess… I understand what this Bill does. It takes out any dealing with Railroad Labor Act and that kind of thing. But again, what we're dealing with here is interfering with the collective bargaining process of private industry, and I still will voice that same objection. Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker."
"No problem. And just for clarity…"
"Yeah."
"…this Bill is doing exactly what you want. This Bill is not interfering. It's an exemption saying that if you have a CBA, you're not… you don’t have to adhere to it."
"Yeah, but it's… but the underlying Bill still establishes a floor."
"Oh, yeah. With the Bill that's already passed, it's not associated with this exemption."
"Yeah, I realize that. I'm just making my objections known."
"Oh, well, yeah."
"I mean, we've been talking about this for so long, I hate to give it up. Thank you."
"No problem. Thank you."
"Leader Evans to close." 10200099.docx 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"I request your support."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 3416 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting's open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs is 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there is 108 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 3685, Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading."
"Senate Bill 3685, a Bill for an Act concerning revenue. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Zalewski." 10200099.docx 66 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Representative Zalewski on the Amendment."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. 3685, the Amendment, combines several department initiatives into one Bill. I ask for its adoption."
"Representative Zalewski moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 3685. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 3685, a Bill for an Act concerning revenue. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."
"Representative Zalewski."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Bill contains a number of technical items for the Department of Revenue that we'd usually do a technical revenue omnibus every year. I ask for its… an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 3685 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting's open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'." 10200099.docx 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs, 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Leader Bourne."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A point of personal privilege, please."
"Please proceed."
"Thank you. You've all seen this little guy run around the House, but I don’t know if I've ever formally introduced him. This is Marshall, and he loves coming to mommy's Capitol after day care. Do you want to say hi?"
"Hi. Hi."
"Hi, Marshall. Chair recognizes Representative Williams. For what reason do you seek recognition?" Williams, J.: "Speaker, I just want to just let the record reflect that on House Bill 1568, I meant to vote 'yes' for."
"Thank you. The record will reflect that. Senate Bill 3893, Representative DeLuca. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10200099.docx 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Senate Bill 3893, a Bill for an Act concerning education. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."
"Representative DeLuca."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 3893 is meant to ease and address the teacher shortage. Under current law, substitute teachers are currently limited to teaching up to 90 days per school year unless the teacher has an educator license with stipulations, in which case they may teach for 120 days in the same classroom. This legislation would expand to allow any qualified teacher to substitute teach for up to 120 days per school year for the 2021-2022 and 2022-2023 school years. And I'd ask for your support. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 3893 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs, 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski." 10200099.docx 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 3936, Representative Slaughter. Representative Slaughter. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."
"Rules Report. Representative Harris, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, referred to the floor is Floor Amendment(s) 3 to House Bill 1321."
"House Bill 1100, Representative Delgado. Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1100, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. The Bill was read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendments 1, 2, and 4 have been approved for consideration. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Delgado."
"Representative Delgado on the Amendment."
"Madam Speaker, I would like to adopt House Floor Amendment 2 and House Floor Amendment 4."
"Mr. Clerk, please withdraw Floor Amendment 1."
"Floor Amendment #2 is offered by Representative Delgado and has been approved for consideration."
"Representative Delgado."
"Madam Speaker, I would like to adopt both Amendments, if possible, and then debate this on Third." 10200099.docx 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
Speaker Manley: "Can you tell us a little bit about the Amendment?"
"Certainly. So, House Floor Amendment 2 mainly focuses on helping law enforcement solve carjacking cases and supporting victims of carjacking."
"Representative Delgado moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 2 to House Bill 1100. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4 is offered by Representative Delgado and has been approved for consideration."
"Representative Delgado on the Amendment."
"House Floor Amendment 4 is a technical change to towing fees reimbursements. And I would ask for that also to be adopted and to continue debating on Third Reading."
"Representative Delgado moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 4 to House Bill 1100. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No Further Amendments have been approved for consideration. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1100, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Representative Delgado."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. So, again, this Bill mainly focuses on helping law enforcement solve carjacking cases and 10200099.docx 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 supporting victims of carjacking. The main portions of this Bill provides supportive services for victims of vehicular hijacking, preventive programs for juveniles who are coerced to commit vehicular hijacking… vehicular hijacking, providing support to vehicle owners impacted by vehicular hijacking, and also predatory vehicular hijacking being included in the Criminal Code. That is the general summary of the legislation, and I, of course, am happy to take questions, Madam Speaker."
"Chair recognizes Representative Bos."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Inquiry of the Chair. Can you inform me to the status of Floor Amendment #3?"
"Mr. Clerk."
"Floor Amendment #3 was filed today and referred to the Rules Committee."
"And following… I know where it's going, but we're going to ask. Can we remove it from Rules? Discharge it from Rules to be voted on?"
"Representative Gong-Gershowitz."
"Object to the Motion."
"Representative Bos, this requires unanimous consent. You don't have that."
"Well, we'll try that again another time. But if we're serious about… to the Bill. If we're serious about combating crime and carjackings, the citizens of Cook County and the collar counties, those citizens in Cook County deserve their opportunity to recall their failed state's attorney. Put the power back in the voters' hands, hold the state's attorney accountable, and hold criminals fully accountable. That is 10200099.docx 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 what Floor Amendment #3 would have done, and I hope we have an opportunity to get that done before we leave here."
"Chair recognizes Representative Stava-Murray."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker… or Madam Speaker. To the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"Over the past couple of years, it has been disturbing to see the dramatic rise in carjackings. It's heartbreaking to see who is being impacted. Seniors, children, mothers with infants in the back seat, all being traumatized at all times of the day by individuals who are acting brazenly, seemingly without fear of consequence. And it's incredibly troubling and heartbreaking to see who is committing these crimes. These are kids. The Chicago Police Department says that more than half of their carjacking suspects are juveniles. Last year even, we had an 11-year- old arrested and charged. Think about that. An 11-year-old who should be in school and playing in toys. And instead of skipping on the playground, they were literally skipping to a car where they brandished a gun. Now, this was not the 11- year-olds idea. They were pressured into helping others steal vehicles. It has to stop. In recent weeks, we've listened to law enforcement and prosecutors on what we should do to address this behavior. This proposal today acts on those recommendations. We're targeting the adults who are forcing children to commit these violent crimes for them. It makes it a Class 1 felony for the offensive predatory vehicular hijacking for any person 18 years or older who knowingly commands or coerces a minor under the age of 18 to commit an 10200099.docx 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 offense of vehicular hijacking. This measure also understands that we need to target the root causes of violence by implementing new grants for programs that provide street- level intervention services for at-risk youth in danger of being recruited for purposes of predatory carjackings. But we cannot forget about the victims who are targeted in these crimes. If someone has their car stolen and is dealt towing fees, this proposal allows them to seek compensation through the Crime Victims Compensation Act. We're also updating a trust fund under the state treasury so that it'll now be known as the Vehicle Hijacking and Motor Vehicle Theft Protection and Insurance Verification Trust Fund. This will expand fund use to support vehicle owners associated with vehicular hijacking and interstate shootings. I recognize that a lot more work remains and I look forward to doing that work alongside other Members of this Body and my constituents whom have been impacted by carjacking themselves. We need to continue to give our law enforcement, the anti-violence community organizations, and prosecutors the tools they need to address this heartbreaking crime. Let's do what we can today to stop this pattern of behavior. Let's support this Bill."
"Chair recognizes Representative Tarver."
"Thank you, Madam Chair. The Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates that she will."
"Okay. Representative Delgado, thanks for the opportunity to have a quick conversation on this. So, I just want to make sure I understand. If an adult commands a child, essentially, 10200099.docx 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 to steal a vehicle and the child does not steal it, the adult will still be charged with a felony."
"That's correct."
"Okay. This probably comes as no surprise to you, but I want to understand a little bit better the definition of minor. Is that only based on age?"
"Yes. Minor is under the age of 18."
"Okay. And this also won’t surprise you, but I have a real concern about when we only use age as a factor. Because what you're telling me is if someone is 30 years old, but functions as a 10-year-old, and an adult tells them to go steal a car and they do it, then that adult will not be charged. And that's concerning to me. So, I just want to make that known on the record and ask you, is it your intent to leave out persons who may have a disability and function as less than an 18-year-old mentally?"
"So, that certainly wouldn't be the intent, Representative, but I think that it's an important issue that you raise. It's certainly something that we should continue having conversations about."
"Okay. Would you commit to… not now, in the future, I know you want to move the Bill now, but in the future, looking at that issue, given that, again, this could be a situation where someone has been judged by a court and otherwise to function at a level that is seven years old, be convinced to do… or coerced or commanded to do something. And if they do it, then the person… whether they do it or not, the person who influenced them in that regard does not get charged, and the only difference is their actual age. So, I just ask, would 10200099.docx 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 you commit to work with me on something that, in the future, might address that issue?"
"Absolutely, Representative."
"Thank you. I appreciate that."
"Chair recognizes Representative Caulkins."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates she will."
"Thank you. Representative, how many carjacking cases are solved percentagewise? I know in Chicago, I'm looking at a number that says that they were… carjackings are up by about 44 percent this year and there were… so, I don't know how many, 2 thousand some carjackings last year. How many of those crimes get solved?"
"So, I don't have a specific number on hand. But I do know that overall, in the City of Chicago, clearance rates are lower than we'd like them to be. But I'm hoping that with this legislation, this may be able to put some more tools in the toolbox for law enforcement."
"About 10 percent is what's average, I guess, over the last 10 years. About 10 percent of carjackings are solved. A… a large number of carjackings that we're seeing are youth. Many… we're seeing a lot of young people involved in carjacking. Why aren't we helping these kids get out of that situation? Why… why not? Why not propose a way to get these children who are caught, arrested for being involved in a… I guess, an aggravated crime?"
"Leader Evans in the Chair."
"Why aren't we addressing that problem?" 10200099.docx 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"So, that is actually a part of what this legislation does. So, it expands some funds that are currently available for vehicular… or I'm sorry, for stolen vehicles, and expands that to include vehicular hijacking so that we can provide additional programming for youth that have been caught up, particularly in this situation."
"But there's… there's no way for the court, under current law, to get these kids out of the system, out off the streets. Are you familiar with House Bill 4190?"
"I've got to be honest with you, Representative. I'm bad with the numbers.
"Okay."
"So, you'll have to share that with me."
"In House Bill 4190, I proposed that any minor 10 years of age or older arrested or taken into custody under this Act, which is the Act for carjacking, for vehicular hijacking or aggravated vehicular hijacking shall be detained in an authorized detention facility until a detention or shelter care hearing is held to determine if there is probable cause to believe that the minor is a delinquent minor and that (1) secure custody is a matter of immediate and urgent necessity for the protection of the minor or of the person or property of another, (2) the minor is likely to flee the jurisdiction, or (3) the minor was taken into custody under a warrant. And if the court makes that determination, the minor shall continue to be held until the deposition… or the disposition of an adjudicatory hearing under this Article. Why… why haven't you taken… I mean, you've taken a lot of the language out of my Bill and used it for your own purposes. Why did you 10200099.docx 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 not give the courts the method, the ability to take these kids off the street and put them into some place where they're not going to be continually used and abused?"
"So, what we're trying to do here, again, is to create opportunities and the ability for youth to be able to receive support and programming, particularly with vehicular hijackings. So, that's what we're trying to do here, Representative. And again, trying to be very thoughtful and smart about how we're approaching this issue."
"But you're not. You're leaving these children back into the world they came from. You're… this… you know, what we proposed on this side, what we've said, is that we need to give the court the ability to remove these young children who are getting involved in this activity from the environment in which they live. Under current law, that's not possible. And so, what we're… we're really not taking these kids off the streets. We're not giving them an opportunity to get out. We're giving the courts and the system an opportunity to, I guess, protect these kids from future involvement in the activities that's led to them getting involved in carjacking. I guess it perplexes me that you're professing to try to do something, and yet we're leaving the kids out of it."
"So, again, Representative, these grants and programs are actually targeted towards at-risk youth, with the intent to give them an opportunity to move beyond this kind of activity."
"But there's nothing in your Bill that says they have to participate. There's nothing in your Bill that gets them out of that environment. You're setting up another social 10200099.docx 78 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 program, I think. I don't know where the money's coming from. We have an opportunity to do something. We've proposed a way to help a) get these repeat offenders of the street, get these kids out of that system. And it just perplexes me that you want to just start another social program, put some more money into some counseling or something, and yet we're not forcefully taking these offenders out of the system."
"I don’t see the solution to be just locking kids up and throwing away the key. I think that the way that we support these kids is to be able to provide them opportunities and programming so that they can be addressed where they are to be able to help them see a future beyond criminal activities."
"I respectfully disagree. To the Bill. This Bill does not make anyone safer. This Bill does not solve any problems that we see in our communities that are resulting of carjacking. This is a very, very serious and a very dangerous crime. People are killed. We've had a Member of this General Assembly's car taken, even though her husband was armed. We need to have concrete way. We need to have a way to put these people in a different place, get them off the streets. We have repeat offenders. This is… this Bill solves nothing when it comes to protecting our citizens, and I'm very disappointed that we haven't taken the opportunity to do that."
Speaker Evans: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Windhorst is recognized."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. This Bill is well-intentioned, but it shows the dangers of the so-called SAFE-T Act and the elimination of cash bail. The Bill creates a new offense, predatory vehicular hijacking, a Class 1 10200099.docx 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 felony. That offense is commanding or coercing a minor under 18 years of age to commit vehicular hijacking, a serious and dangerous offense. But under the terms in the SAFE-T Act, this is not, is not, a detainable offense. Meaning that after an individual is arrested for this offense, he would have to be released from jail, pending trial, within 48 hours. This is just one of a number of serious offenses, forcible felonies that also are required to be released pending trial. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a disaster, a foreseeable disaster waiting to happen on January 1 of 2023, if we do not take action and repeal the elimination of cash bail. Thank you."
"Representative Brady is recognized."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates she will."
"Representative, just a couple questions. According to our analysis, proponents to this Bill is the City of Chicago and the Sheriffs' Association. Do you know, was the Illinois State Police or the Illinois Secretary of State's Office police division consulted or did they take any position on the Bill?"
"Yes. The Illinois State Police were consulted. They've certainly been a part of a number of ongoing conversations. And it is my understanding that they do support this legislation."
"And the Secretary of State's Police, who I believe has statutory authority in carjacking rings and car auto theft rings, were they consulted?"
"The Secretary of State's Police didn't reach out to us. We haven't had direct conversations with them, but…" Brady: 'Okay." 10200099.docx 80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"…certainly something…"
"All right. Thank you. On the opponent side of things, the opponents that are listed there, in your negotiations, did they explain to you some of the opposition that they had with the Bill?"
"Some did, certainly. You know, I've been involved in a number of conversations with a number of advocates that shared lots of different issues related to public safety currently. So, yes, I've heard from a number of them."
"So, let's go to maybe the Alliance for Reentry and Justice. Do you recall what their opposition was to the Bill?"
"Actually, no, I don't."
"How about the Chicago Community Bond Fund? Do you recall, by chance, what their opposition was to the Bill?"
"I don't. I don't remember having a specific conversation with them."
"How about the Cook County Public Defender? Do you remember what their opposition might have been to the Bill?"
"The Cook County Public Defender's Office, we actually had a very wide-ranging conversation. It wasn't specific to this issue, but we certainly have regular and ongoing communications with them."
"And how about Restore Justice Illinois? Do you recall what their opposition to the Bill might have been?"
"I actually just spoke with Restore Justice Illinois, again, trying to explain to them the perspective that I bring to this issue. You know, on the Northwest Side of City of Chicago, we are certainly dealing with this on a regular basis. So, we have had conversations with them as well." 10200099.docx 81 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"So, then, with the legislation and the way it's drafted, what do you truly hope comes of this Bill when you have the opposition that you do? You have a couple proponents and then you have others that didn't… aren't listed as proponents of the Bill. And it seems to be that everyone draws down to the fact that it's really youth that are being coerced into this and that we're going to create a new penalty for that Act and we don't seem to know for sure the opposition from some of these other groups."
"So, again, Representative, the vast majority of what's in this Bill has to do with creating programs, tapping into programs that currently exist to support juveniles, to support victims. I do think that that's going to have a real and significant impact on this issue. There are other pieces to it, but the vast majority of what we're talking about here…"
"So…"
"…is that."
"…the hope, in some respects, is a program is going to help deter young people and impress upon them what's right or wrong?"
"Well, certainly we have to get at the root causes of what's happening in our communities. And again, I'm living in one of those communities right now where we're seeing it happen, right?"
"Sure. Right."
"And so, what we want to do is find pathways, for youth in particular, especially when they're young, to be able to 10200099.docx 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 show them what their future could look like with that support."
"Sure. Would you agree that one of the root causes, then, it's just simply it's wrong to steal a car no matter what your age?"
"Well, if you're asking if theft is wrong…"
"Yes, correct. I mean…"
"…it is illegal."
"That's correct. But to get to the root cause, just simply programs aside, the idea of stealing a car is wrong. It's against the law, as you indicated. But there might be programs that could help youth understand the fact better that this is not the right thing to do."
"I really think that the underlying issues around crime are complex. There's a lot that goes into what happens, again, in communities like mine on the Northwest Side of the City of Chicago. It has much more to do than just being able to teach somebody right from wrong. There are a lot of other things that are happening in those communities. And again, I think that's why there's never a simple solution to these things. We have to really look at it from a wholistic perspective, which is what we're trying to do here. Trying to be smart, trying to be thoughtful, and trying to actually put things in place that will work."
"Thank you very much."
"Representative Crespo is recognized."
"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates that she will." 10200099.docx 83 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Thank you. Before I say anything, I just want to, for the record, on House Bill 1571, I believe, where I was asking about… Representative Vella about appropriation. I did find on page 31, Section (d), it does talk about it being subject to appropriations. It's still unfortunate we don’t know how much it's going to cost, but it is subject to appropriations. And to the Sponsor of this Bill, thank you, because it's very clear on page 1 that this is subject to appropriations."
"Yes, Sir."
"My question to you is, have we been able to quantify how much this could cost?"
"At this point, I don’t have a specific number for you, Representative. But, you know, as we continue down this path of discussing what our budget looks like, I'm sure that we'll get down to those nuts and bolts."
"And I appreciate that. I think this is a well-intentioned Bill. I'm still very concerned that we think that just throwing money after some of these programs will fix things. I'm not sure that that will be the case. But so far, we've heard two Bills where we haven't been able to quantify how much this is going to cost, so that's a little bit concerning. Thank you. Thank you, Speaker."
"For further discussion, Representative Mazzochi is recognized."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I'm so glad that the Lady from DuPage on the other side of the aisle has finally decided that now we can't forget about the carjacking victims, now we can't… she wants to give the police and the prosecutors the tools that they need. Because in reality, she 10200099.docx 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 and her fellow Democratic Legislators from DuPage are the ones who did the vote, who denied the victims and the police and the prosecutors the tools that they were going to need. And they did that not just be voting for, but in her case, cosponsoring HB3653, the so-called SAFE-T Act, along with a whole host of other anti-police and prosecution legislation. So, your vote on that Act is what is going to enshrine a revolving door at the DuPage County Courthouse, which your sheriff didn't want, your state's attorneys didn't want, and the people didn't want. And you're not going to be able to atone for that bad vote with this vote here."
Speaker Evans: "All right. Representative McCombie is recognized."
"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a couple questions, please?"
"She indicated she will."
"Thank you. Representative, as you noted that this Bill has vast programs, I think was the word, but there is indeed a penalty enhancement component to this Bill, correct?"
"No, that's not correct."
"Which part? That there's vast programs in the Bill?"
"Oh, the program… oh, no, there are certainly…"
"Okay."
"…a number of programs in the Bill."
"So, there is no penalty enhancement?"
"No. And actually, I… so, that question can be complicated because currently we…"
"Is there… maybe, I think you phrased it as a charging tool?" 10200099.docx 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Yes, it is a charging tool."
"Okay. That's a new one. I ask oftentimes here if things are penalty enhancements and charging tool is a new one. One other question. Who's going to be carrying this in the Senate?"
"At this point, I don't have that answer, Representative."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Leader Greenwood is recognized."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let the record reflect that Leader Flowers is excused for the remainder of the day."
"The record will reflect. Representative Delgado to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I just want to remind everyone that this really is a package of a number of different things. We are talking about, again, supportive services for victims of carjacking. We're talking about preventative programs for juveniles that we know are being caught up in a lot of this. We're providing support to victims who have been victimized by carjackers. And again, trying to put together a wholistic approach to how we address this significant issue. I know it's happening a lot in my communities. I know there are a number of people in this Body who have been personally impacted by this. So, again, trying to be smart, trying to be thoughtful. And I, again, would appreciate an 'aye' vote."
"Seeing no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1100 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk." 10200099.docx 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Cassidy. Representative Costa Howard."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs, 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'against', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Gabel is recognized."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Representative Kelly be allowed to participate and cast his vote remotely."
"Leader Gabel has made a Motion that Representative Kelly be allowed to participate and cast his vote remotely. This is roll call vote. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Cassidy. Representative Costa Howard."
"Yes." 10200099.docx 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar is a 'yes'."
Clerk Bolin: "Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs, 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes… Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Mr. Clerk… have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this Motion, there are 74 voting 'yes', 27 voting 'no', and 5 voting 'present'. And the Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk."
"Is Representative Kelly present?"
"Kelly is present."
"Representative Kelly is present."
"In the Calendar, on page 4, under House Bills- Second Reading, we have House Bill 1571, Leader Manley. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1571, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. The Bill was read for a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendments 1, 2, and 3 have been approved for consideration. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Manley."
"Leader Manley on the Amendment."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, House Floor Amendment 1 to House Bill 1571 is a gut and replace. It establishes the Off-Hours Child Care Grant Program at DHS to expand access to off-hours child care for just about everybody 10200099.docx 88 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 you can think of that finds themselves working shift work or having a job where they have to perform overtime hours. That includes first responders, nurses, police officers, warehouse workers, all those who need child care outside traditional hours. This program would implement… be implemented based on findings from a report commissioned by the Senate. We can talk about that on… when the Bill's on Third. And I ask for the adoption of House Floor Amendment 1."
"All right. Thank you. Please allow debate on Third Reading. Representative Manley moves the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Manley."
"Representative Manley on the Amendment."
"Floor Amendment 2 makes two technical changes. It removes the reference to grants and moves the implementation date to summer 2023. Ask for the adoption of Amendment 2."
"Representative Manley moves the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Manley."
"Representative Manley on the Amendment." 10200099.docx 89 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Going for a record here. Changes… the Floor Amendment 3 changes the Act name to Off-Hours Child Care Act, and it also makes a technical change. It's in the Amendment. It takes out 'group home' and just replaces it with 'group day care home'."
"Representative Manley moves the adoption of Floor Amendment #3. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill on Third Reading."
"House Bill 1571, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Leader Manley is recognized."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Boy, I wish we would've had this when I was a young, single mom working midnights in the City of Chicago, driving in from Frankfort at the time. It was hard, stressful. I was worried a lot. Trying to find child care on an overnight shift was never easy. I think we're going to do something really great here today that helps single parents. Parents that both work odd hours, find themselves in a position where they can't say no to their employer, and that juggle for who’s going to get the kids and who's going to stay with our kids ensues. Stressful in many ways. I've been here almost 10 years, and I think this is probably one of the most important pieces of legislation that I've seen. One of them, but it definitely will impact a lot of people. And I'll take any questions." 10200099.docx 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Representative Stava-Murray is recognized for questions."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. First responders do not have a typical nine to five, Monday through Friday work schedule. They have to deal with inconsistent schedules, sometimes changed without notice due to the nature of the job. Whenever we face an emergency, it's taken for granted that help will always be available. But there's a consequence to this reality, and that consequence often puts a strain on the families of first responders. This measure creates a grant program for child care centers to provide after hours and nightly child care for the children of first responders and other workers working late shifts. Increasing odd-hours child care access is a simple but incredibly important way we can help address the daily challenges our first responders are facing. I also feel strongly that this is a way to help women enter the workforce in different areas where they may had not been able to before if they had been having primary child care responsibilities. So, I think there's many different ways that this is a great Bill, helping single parents, helping… to all working family parents, as the Sponsor noted. And I want… I want, especially our first responders, to know that we are incredibly grateful for their sacrifices. And here in Springfield, we must continue to prioritize the challenges they face and how we can make sure that we can make a career where they can have their family and do these incredibly important jobs that we need them to do in our society. So, I urge everyone here to support this Bill. Thank you very much. 10200099.docx 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Representative Niemerg is recognized."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicated she will."
"I just have a couple of quick questions. It looks like the Amendments here… this applies to anybody that's working nights or needs child care, correct?"
"It's for everybody."
"Okay. And does… can you explain to me how the money… is it… 'cause the Amendment… Floor Amendment 1 and 2, is it still grants going to individual day cares? Or can you please explain that?"
"Floor Amendment 2 was negotiated with DHS. They're going to pull the… we pulled the word grant out. They want to study it, study the need throughout the state, who really needs this, how to implement it. So, they… through Senate Resolution 862, they're going to produce a report and from that report we'll get the information we need. Where do we need this? How many people need it? How much will it cost?"
"Okay. And then, lastly, would this report include if a day care operation decides to have maybe an at-home visit to where a particular individual would go to that home and that child could then sleep in their own bed? Anything along those measures?"
"It'll be a licensed day care through the State of Illinois. And that is an excellent question and one I think they should ask in the report."
"Okay. Would you work with me on that report…"
"Absolutely."
"…and moving things forward? Okay. Thank you." 10200099.docx 92 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Absolutely. Anybody."
"Thank you. Thank you very much."
"Taking all input. Thank you."
"Thank you."
"Representative Crespo is recognized."
"Thank you, Sponsor… Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicated she will."
"Representative, I think so far, of all the Bills we've heard, this is perhaps the most significant. And I'm happy to support it, but I also want to thank you and the staff for including in the language that it is subject to appropriations. But I'd like to ask you, have you been able, or staff been able, to quantify how much this could potentially cost the state?"
"I… I think that's why we're pretty excited to be part of the report process, because those are the kind of questions… we're going to actually get data that we can base the appropriation, you know, solid information."
"Will the reports come before the program is implemented or after the program is implemented?"
"It will be implemented based on the recommendations in the report."
"Thank you."
"Seeing no further debate, Leader Manley to close."
"DHS is in favor with Amendment 2. I've had a lot of people approach me in the last couple of hours. The IML is in favor of this. I am so proud of that. This never happens on my Bills. Also, Fight Crime: Invest in Kids, and many other people. Thank you all, and I look forward to speaking with 10200099.docx 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 you as we move forward and really changing the lives of the families here in Illinois. And I ask for a favorable vote."
"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1571 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs, 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Kelly. Representative Kelly."
"Yes."
"Representative Kelly votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'against', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Clerk is in receipt of Motion in Writing to waive the posting 10200099.docx 94 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 requirements for several Bills. If there is leave, we will take these Motions together in one Motion. Is there leave? Leave is not granted. Leader Hoffman on the Motion."
"Speaker, I move the posting requirements be waived for the following Bills so they can be heard this week in committee: for Senate Bill 3761 to be heard in Appropriations– Higher Education, Senate Bill 3912 to be heard in Appropriations-Higher Education, Senate Bill 1582 to be heard in Executive, Senate Bill 2432 to be heard in Executive, Senate Bill 2951 to be heard in Executive, Senate Bill 3795 to be heard in Counties & Townships, Senate Bill 1975 to be heard in Revenue & Finance, House Joint Resolution 90 to be heard in International Trade & Commerce."
"Leader Hoffman has moved to waive the posting requirements. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Yes."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"No."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'no'. Representative Kelly." 10200099.docx 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Yes."
"Representative Kelly votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"No."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'no'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 44 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. And the Motion prevails. Returning to the Calendar of House Bills-Second Reading. On page 3, we have House Bill 1321, Representative LaPointe. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1321, a Bill for an Act concerning health. This Bill was read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative LaPointe, has been approved for consideration."
"Representative LaPointe on the Amendment."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe we have three Amendments. House Amendment 1 is a gut and replace that creates the Bill. Mr. Speaker, should I explain all three Amendments?"
"No, just do one at a time. Just do #1."
"House Amendment 1 is a gut and replace that creates the Bill."
"Okay. Representative LaPointe moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 10200099.docx 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative LaPointe, has been approved for consideration."
"Representative LaPointe is recognized."
"House Amendment 2 condenses the Bill to just focus on creating a state grant fund for first responder behavioral health care and gets rid… it gets rid of the part of the Bill that was related to annual psychological assessments of first responders."
"Representative LaPointe moves the adoption of Floor Amendment #2. All those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #3 is offered by Representative LaPointe and has been approved for consideration."
Speaker Evans: "Representative LaPointe to explain the Amendment."
"House Floor Amendment 3 creates a fund in the State Treasury so this Bill can actually be workable."
"Representative LaPointe moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. And in the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill on Third Reading." 10200099.docx 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"House Bill 1321, a Bill for an Act concerning health. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Representative LaPointe is recognized."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. HB1321 is a Bill that breaks down barriers that our first responders across the State of Illinois have encountered when attempting to access behavioral health support and mental health support. As I've learned from many conversations with first responder families, and I know many of us feel deeply that first responders have difficult jobs in normal times, when we ask them to be police officers, firefighters, social workers, marriage counselors, and homeless outreach workers when they are not actually trained for those jobs, but we are not living in normal times. All across the nation, not just Chicago, all across the nation we have all been dealing with a devastating uptick in gun violence since about March 2020. And it's our survivors of gun violence and their families and loved ones and our first responders that run into danger daily who I truly believe carry the biggest burden of this very difficult and abnormal time. Historically, the behavioral health care services that we've provided to first responders are difficult to access, not of high quality, and fail to respect confidentiality that is often found in other health care settings. On top of this, stigma is very real. It creates a very real barrier to care. So, to increase access and to fill in the gaps of care that are found in regular benefit packages of our first responders, this Bill creates the First Responder Behavioral Health Care Grant Program to be housed at our Department of Human Services. The program will provide grants 10200099.docx 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 to local law enforcement agencies, fire protection districts, and other employers of first responders for mental health services and substance abuse treatment. This would even include hospitals, and telehealth is absolutely allowed under this Bill. This Bill defines first responders broadly to include police, firefighters, EMTs, and 9-1-1 operators. The Bill fills in wide gaps and ultimately seeks to connect first responders with the behavioral health care that they need. More than happy to answer questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."
"Thank you, Representative. Any debate? We have Leader Durkin."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bills. I will say this. I've been listening to the comments made today, and it's really fantastic that you now have new love, or have found it, for first responders and crime victims. The rhetoric that I've heard is nothing less than breathtaking. It was just a short amount of time back in… two Januarys ago where you gutted law enforcement and kicked, kicked victims to the curb. And now, all of the sudden we have an election coming up and now we are defenders of victims and law enforcement. Now, let's remember what's happening today. This… for people who have not served in this General Assembly before this term, this is a classic case and a classic example of CYA. We are here for one reason, due to the colossal failure in process and also the substance from that horrible Bill, 3653, in which you're trying to redeem yourself, with not only victims of crime, but also with law enforcement. Let me just say this. How can you stand here and make these comments, for everybody who voted for that Bill, and claim that you do have… that you 10200099.docx 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 support police and also support victims when that House Bill 3653 was dropped at 3:00 in the morning in the Senate and it came over to the House later that morning, no time to review, and passed under the most dubious of circumstances? How do you stand up and tell victims we're for you when you didn't even know what was in the Bill? Well, let me say, I know how we got there. That was the last parting gift of your friend and your former leader, Mike Madigan. We know how it got there. We are not dumb. We've been around here. That was part of the deal, and we know what happened. But your attempt to correct the record today is going to fall short. None of these Bills are going to reign in this extremely reckless no cash bail law that you all championed last year that's set to go into effect in January. Let me just say this. You got to look at other jurisdictions who've had a chance to observe this for a few years. Look at New York. They've had this on the book for two years. And you have a Governor who took over for Cuomo, who is no conservative, is running as far away as she can from that legislation of no cash bail because the effect that it's had on the people of New York. Learn from that. We're not touching that at all. I guess what we should expect when we have no cash bail is that you believe we have to… we have to give to criminals… we have to… that we're going to rely on the honor system with street gang members and criminals. When you bring in your multiple kilos of coke and fentanyl and you give them a little ticket and say, you know what, you better show up in court. Good grief. None of these Bills eliminate a terrible provision, which I have talked about ad nauseam, which for the first time will allow a 10200099.docx 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 criminal, a charged criminal, to subpoena a crime victim to appear at a bond hearing or a detention hearing. Why in the world would we do that when we have a Constitutional Amendment, which we passed a few years ago called Marsy's Law, that says that victims must be protected from intimidation and harassment. So, when that victim, that domestic violence victim, who's beat to a pulp, and the husband is brought in for a bond hearing, he is going to have the ability to subpoena her to testify at that stage. Or that sexual assault victim. Or how about that police officer who is shot, but he is able to survive? And that victim is going to be able to… that victim's going to be forced, because of the defendant, to have to appear at a detention hearing. That is what you have put into the law. None of this will also eliminate… and we had this discussion a few months ago in an attempt to try to correct the phone call problems, or the three phone calls. What you did is you made the situation worse. You are now allowing for nine phone calls that defendants will have to… will be allowed to make when they are in custody. It's very clear, nine phone calls. But, of course, those nine phone calls are restricted to the attorney, but also the family members, with no restriction. How about if that family member is the victim, whether it's the wife, it's the child who is abused by the father? Nine phone calls. We're not doing anything about that. None of these Bills you're doing right now are going to change the consequence- free State of Illinois for bad actors. It's real simple. You, Governor Pritzker, all of you own this public safety crisis. You're not going to be able to rewrite history, and I will 10200099.docx 101 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 remind you and your constituents of it every day. So, folks, you don’t ask for our consultation, you don’t ask for our counsel. That's fine. We're just going to leave it for the voters in fall."
"Any further discussion? Representative Crespo is recognized."
"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Representative, what's the effective date for this Bill?"
"It has an immediate effective date, Representative."
"Okay. And actually, this is a very good Bill, something we should have had in place many years ago. I also noticed that, unless I missed it, that it is not subject to appropriations. Can you tell us how much is it going to cost the state?"
"This Bill is subject to appropriations, and we are going to be working to put in appropriation in the state Fiscal Year '23 budget."
"Can your staff tell us where I can see the language that it says it is subject to appropriations?"
"Okay. Page 3, line 17 on Amendment 2."
"Just bear with me one second. It's on page 3?"
"Yes."
"Okay. I can't see it, but I'll talk to staff. Maybe they can show me where it's at. Thank you."
"Representative LaPointe to close."
"In response to some of the discussion, I would like to remind the chamber that the effective date for eliminating cash bail in the State of Illinois has not yet arrived. I 10200099.docx 102 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 would also like to remind the chamber that the whole country is experiencing a devastating uptick in gun violence. That if we look at the data and we look at the evidence, we will see that gun violence began to go up around March 2020. And every single witness that has come in front of me as I sat on the Public Safety and Violence Prevention Task Force, I asked them, what do they think this uptick in gun violence is due to? And none of them responded in a way that reflects the discussion that we just heard. To point to one law that went into effect incrementally, that is not fully implemented yet, as the cause of the pain that people around the whole country are feeling is an affront to victims of crime and is truly ignoring how we can sustainably reduce crime to get public safety for everyone. Making sure first responders have access to behavioral health care is a key part of that. I urge an 'aye' vote."
"Seeing no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1321 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs." 10200099.docx 103 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Jacobs is 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Kelly."
"Kelly is a 'yes'."
"Representative Kelly votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'against', 0 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. In the Calendar, under House Bills-Second Reading, on page 2, we have House Bill 1095, Leader Gordon-Booth. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1095, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. This Bill was read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendments 1, 2, and 3 have been approved for consideration. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Gordon-Booth."
"Leader Manley in the Chair."
"Leader Gordon-Booth on the Amendment."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to move for the adoption of House Amendments 1, 2, and 3, and debate the Bill on Third."
Speaker Manley: "Representative Gordon-Booth moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 1. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' 10200099.docx 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is offered by Representative Gordon-Booth."
"Leader Gordon-Booth on Amendment 2."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to move for the adoption of House Amendment 2. I'd like to debate it on Third."
Speaker Manley: "Representative Gordon-Booth moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to House Bill 1095. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. Opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3 is offered by Representative Gordon-Booth."
"Representative Gordon-Booth."
"Again, thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to move for the adoption of House Amendment 4… excuse me, Floor Amendment #3, and I'd like to debate it on Third."
Speaker Manley: "Representative Gordon-Booth moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment 3 to House Bill 1095. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1095, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Leader Gordon-Booth." 10200099.docx 105 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Bill 1095 does a couple of things. It establishes a Co-Responder Pilot Program for four police departments across the State of Illinois. The co-responder units would establish co-responder pilots in the following cities: Peoria, Waukegan, Springfield, and East Saint Louis. This co-responder pilot concept was brought forth by the police chief in Peoria, Illinois, Chief Eric Echevarria. This is a… this component of the legislation is supported by the Illinois Chiefs Association. It is supported by the Safer Foundation, the Illinois Association for Social Workers, and the Illinois Association for Behavioral Health, as well as a number of other associations that work in the behavioral health space. The concept around this Bill was to bring forth a policy that would allow for law enforcement to better interact with the community in order to give a much more robust approach to community engagement, specifically assisting with juvenile investigations. The feeling and the thought was that in case… in regards to case management and services for victims and their families, that those issues actually would be, frankly, help… would be much more receptive as we have social workers working in this space and in the capacity, working alongside police officers. The other component of this Bill is a Violent Crime Victim and Witness Protection Act. We all are aware of the uptick in violence that we are seeing across the country, as well as the State of Illinois. It has hit home for many in this state, even for many in this room. The Violent Crime and Victim Witness Protection Act would allow for state's attorneys, or the Attorney General, or the chief executive of a police agency, 10200099.docx 106 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 with the approval of the state's attorney or Attorney General, to seek funds from the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority for violent crime victims, witness assistance. And that assistance would be allowed in the cases of temporary living costs, moving expenses, rent, security deposits, and other appropriate expenses for a transition. Unfortunately, we are seeing an uptick in violent crime. And we know that in order to deal with the issues of crime, it's a very nuanced issue, and one of those things that we know is incredibly important for all of us is that, when we see violent crime in our communities, we want people that see something to say something. What this portion of the legislation is intending to do is it is putting the state in a position to actually support those individuals that I've often called heroes. Because you see, the very people who we often ask to do the most, have the least. They live in the very same communities that we are asking them to potentially put themselves or their children at risk of harm or just living in sheer fear that what they potentially witnessed could then happen to themselves or a loved one. I believe that it is in the greatest interest of this state to support these heroes when we are asking them to work alongside law enforcement, to assist in the prosecution of said crimes, to facilitate the successful clearing of cases, again, working with law enforcement and our local state's attorneys' offices. That is the crux of this legislation. I am open to any questions that the Body may have."
"Chair recognizes Leader Batinick." 10200099.docx 107 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the record reflect that Keith Sommer is gone for the rest of the evening?"
Speaker Manley: "The record shall so reflect that. Chair recognizes Representative Butler."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Question of the Sponsor?"
"Please proceed."
"Thank you. Leader Gordon-Booth, thank you for bringing this Bill forward. I just have a simple question. Under the Co-Responder Pilot Program, it says each department 'shall' establish. That's correct, it's a 'shall'? Is there a cost on the local departments for this…"
"No."
"…on the local… okay. How did Springfield get included in this?"
"It was requested by individuals here in Springfield."
"I've spoken with the City of Springfield's lobbyists, I've spoken with the Chiefs Association, both, who said they had no knowledge that Springfield had requested that."
"I did not work with them. I worked with Senator Doris Turner and Representative Sue Scherer."
"Okay. Okay. Thank you."
"Chair recognizes Representative Crespo."
"Thank you. Question of the Sponsor?"
"Please proceed."
"Representative, I see that this is subject to appropriations. Do you have an idea how much this is going to cost?" 10200099.docx 108 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"At the moment, that's in flux because of the budget negotiations that are happening between both chambers."
"Okay. Well, to the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"And I've been asking this question, I think, on all these Bills. There's a cost associated with this. These are good Bills, undoubtedly. But at some point, we just can’t keep putting money into programs when we don't know they're going to work or not. Just a little while ago we heard from the other side and they referenced the SAFE-T Act Bill. Many Members in this House supported that Bill 'cause we realized that we needed structural changes to a broken legal system. Lot of good things in that Bill. But like any big Bill, we always find out later on, wait a second there's some things that maybe we should tweak, refine, whatever term you want to use. Some of these provisions will not go into effect until later. And I know, Leader, that Members have talked to your group and have brought up some concerns that we have. Some that have to do with the bail issue. Some that have to do with trespassing concerns that, apparently, there's some misunderstanding there. And issues with the electronic monitoring. I think we only have three days left in Session. And unfortunately, as of today, April 5, at 7:39, I just feel that a lot of these concerns and issues have fallen on deaf ears. Hopefully, I'm wrong. And hopefully before we leave, we're actually able to get something done in the House and the Senate to address some of those concerns. Thank you, Speaker."
"Leader Gordon-Booth to close." 10200099.docx 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"What we're doing here tonight, in the State of Illinois, is providing… this is an example of what it looks like to work collaboratively with law enforcement and with community. This is also reflective of an understanding that the very real reality that happens in our communities is that we have to be able… we have to be willing to provide the necessary resources in order to allow law enforcement to be able to solve crime. We need better tools for solving the crime of today. We're looking at a Violent Crime Witness Protection Act that would put resources, again, in the hands of heroes who are doing the right thing on behalf of their communities that helps bring a potential family some very much so needed closure in the case of a violent crime, or at worse, the loss of a loved one. We are also looking at what it means for the severe mental health crisis that we are facing in this country and what it means to have 21st century policing by having mental health workers embedded in a police department, along with social workers, to be able to better assist in providing not only public security but public safety. I appreciate your indulgement this evening. I ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1095 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"Cassidy votes 'yes'."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Cassidy votes 'yes'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Yes." 10200099.docx 110 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs, 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Kelly."
"Kelly's a 'yes'."
"Representative Kelly votes 'yes'. Representative Sosnowski."
"Yes."
"Representative Sosnowski votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting in 'favor', 0 voting 'opposed', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Butler, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Point of personal privilege, Madam Speaker."
"Please proceed."
"To the Sponsor of the previous Bill who closed her remarks by talking about collaboration. I've talked about collaboration on a previous Bill today that was a really good example of it. And to say that you work collaboratively, when we have two Members of this chamber sitting right here, who live in the City of Springfield, that were included in the last legislation, I would say you did not work 10200099.docx 111 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 collaboratively. As I said, I talked to the City of Springfield. I talked to the chief of police. The assistant director of the Chiefs of Police is a former police chief of Springfield. That's not collaboration. There's a much better way to do it around here, folks. If you want to talk about collaboration, actually carry out collaboration."
"Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."
Clerk Hollman: "Committee Report. Representative Harris, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules reports the following committee action taken on April 5, 2022: recommends be adopted, referred to the floor is Floor Amendment(s) 3 to House Bill 1103; approved for consideration, referred to Second Reading is House Bill 969."
"Leader Greenwood for an announcement."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The House… the House Democrats will caucus immediately in Room 114."
"House Democrats will caucus in Room 114. The House will stand in recess to the call of the Chair. Mr. Clerk."
"Second Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 3096, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. This will be held on the Order of Second Reading."
"Leader Batinick."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representatives Halbrook, Miller, Sosnowski, Frese, Reick, Spain, Bennett… Curly… let the record reflect… I'm going to start over again. Representatives Halbrook, Miller, Sosnowski, Randy Frese, got it, Steve Reick, Ryan Spain, Tom 10200099.docx 112 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Bennett are excused for the remainder of the evening. Thank you."
"Thank you. House Bill 1103, Leader Greenwood. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1103, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. This Bill was read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendments 1 and… Floor Amendments 1, 2, and 3 have been approved for consideration. Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Greenwood."
"Leader Greenwood on Floor Amendment 1."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I want to adopt Floor Amendment 3, and… oh, yes."
"Do you wish to withdraw Floor Amendment 1?"
"Yes. Yes."
"And #2?"
"Yes."
"And adopt #3?"
"Yes. It's a gut and replace, and it becomes the Bill."
"Mr. Clerk, please withdraw Floor Amendment 1 and 2."
"Floor Amendment #3 is offered by Representative Greenwood and has been approved for consideration."
"Leader Greenwood on Floor Amendment 3."
"Thank you. Floor Amendment 3 makes a number of provisions on behalf of ACLU. And I would like to adopt the Floor Amendment."
"Leader Greenwood moves to… we're going to adopt the Bill and discuss it on… we're going to adopt the Amendment. Okay. Leader Greenwood moves to adopt Floor 10200099.docx 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Amendment 3 to House Bill 1103. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk, any other Amendments?"
"No further Amendments. No Motions are filed."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."
"House Bill 1103, a Bill for an Act concerning criminal law. Third Reading of this House Bill."
"Leader Greenwood."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. House Bill 1103 would authorize expressway cameras for most major counties in Illinois, and would therefore help protect against highway shootings, carjackings, and other crimes. The State Police supports expansion, and these cameras cannot be used for traffic enforcement or to issue tickets. This is an expansion of a Bill that Representative Jones passed three years ago authorizing 300 cameras in the Chicago area, and the law has already resulted in catching expressway shooters. Also, the Bill addresses the… just a minute… the residential cameras, by giving the authority for residential cameras from the Attorney General to the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority. And I ask for a positive vote, 'yes' vote."
"Chair recognizes Representative Tarver."
"Thank you, Madam Chair. Question for the Sponsor. Will she yield?"
"Please proceed."
"Thank you. I didn't have a chance to look through Amendment 3 at length. So, if some of these things are already 10200099.docx 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 addressed… are addressed in Amendment 3, just let me know. I guess, first and foremost, what is the purpose of exempting this information from FOIA?"
"Hello. Okay. Representative, the request can sometimes become cumbersome for law enforcement, so that was the reason for that."
"That's the case with government in general. You can have an extension provided at any level of government. So, I guess I will renew the question. What is the purpose of exempting… we're going to put 300 new officers on the street, 300 new State Troopers, potentially, in this budget on the street, right?"
"In this Bill?"
"No, in the budget. The proposal…"
"Oh, I don't know about that."
"Okay."
"Yeah."
"We just talked about it less than 10 minutes ago, and it was in the Governor's introduced budget, and there's a proposal right now to add 300 ISP officers. The largest class, three classes, in the state history. That's what the Governor's been saying. That's what we talked about. And so, we have enough money to add additional officers, wouldn't the reasonable solution be just to simply add individuals who could respond to FOIA requests if the issue is that it's burdensome, potentially, for police officers? 'Cause every other branch of government has to respond to FOIA requests." 10200099.docx 115 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"So, for the expressway camera video, this is different from asking for information for a government proceeding. So, it's a different situation."
"Explain to me the difference. Because there are videos at the City of Chicago and other municipalities that are subject to FOIA, i.e., investigations that… what used to be called OPS, then IPRA, and now COPA. You can ask for that information from the City of Chicago for police involved shootings and things of the like. Those are all videos. They take time to redact them, but it's subject to a FOIA. So, why not just redact the video instead of exempting it completely from FOIA?"
"Again, law enforcement finds it too cumbersome to implement that program with the FOIA request."
"Which law enforcement agency in particular express… I just want to put it for the record and for legislative intent. Which law enforcement agency said it is too cumbersome to respond to FOIA requests?"
"I believe it was ISP."
"Okay. So, ISP says that it's too cumbersome to respond to FOIA requests. Okay. So, if someone wants to FOIA their own video, they can't do that because it's not subject to FOIA. Is that right?"
"I can't… what'd you say?"
"A video that reflects someone, if they wanted to FOIA their own… the video with them in it, they couldn't do that because it's too cumbersome for law enforcement, right? It's exempt from FOIA. They don't have to provide it, right?"
"No." 10200099.docx 116 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Okay. So, law enforcement can monitor the expressways. They have to put up a sign saying recording in use, all those fun things, but you can never, as an individual, seek to have that video provided to you through a FOIA request. Is that correct?"
"That's correct."
"Okay. So, you'd have to be somebody who has an attorney, essentially, in order to do it in a criminal case? How else would you get the video? I mean, James is standing… how else would you get the video? You can't FOIA it, which most people would be able to do. So, how else would you retrieve a video that has you in it?"
"Are you talking about the expressway camera? Or the…"
"Whatever camera potentially has Curtis Tarver and his vehicle in it. I cannot FOIA and request that video that has me in it."
"So, it has your license plates. The rear license plates."
"Regardless. I couldn't FOIA that information?"
"No."
"Okay. No, they're exempting FOIA in this Bill. It's right here. It's page 9, line 21, subsection (ffff). Information that is exempt from disclosure under the Expressway Camera Act. But that’s fine, moving on. So, this is what… this is presumed to… the fund runs out once we solve 10 thousand crimes. Is that right?"
"I can't hear you. What'd you say?"
"The fund runs out once we solve 10 thousand crimes. Is that correct?" 10200099.docx 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Oh, okay. It's a pilot program."
"I know. It's a million dollars. It's a hundred dollars once the state's attorney certifies it, the Attorney General, and so on. And a hundred into a million, I think it's about 10 thousand crimes. So, this program is projected to… this is going to sunset, essentially, on it's own once we solve 10 thousand crimes. Is that right?"
"The pilot program terminates after a total of $1 million has been awarded under the pilot program."
"And there's $100 awards. So, that's 10 thousand crimes solved. How many crimes does ISP solve on an annual basis, of this type, that this camera is aimed at?"
"I don't know."
"Does ISP know? Okay. Did anybody ask ISP?"
"I did."
"Okay. You asked them and they didn't know?"
"I said I did not."
"Okay. So, nobody thought to ask them so we would know how long the program is actually potentially going to last? Okay. So, the $100 per person, that's per crime? What happens if their one video leads to three suspects being caught and convicted? They get 300 bucks? Or they get $33 and 33 cents per person and a total of $100?"
"Yes. If it's three convictions, it could be $300."
"And where is that spelled out in the Bill?"
"It says $100 per conviction."
"Okay. Let's talk a little bit about… so, the images in the investigation of a forcible felony and so on. Right? So, 10200099.docx 118 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 there has to be… so, it has to be relevant to use the actual images. Is that right?"
"It has to be what?"
"Images from the cameras may be used be any municipal police department, county sheriff's office, State Police office, or other law enforcement agency with jurisdiction in the investigation of any forcible felony, including, but not limited to, offenses involving the use of a firearm, so on and so on. So, it's only to be used by officers, the law enforcement in that jurisdiction. Is that right?"
"Yes." Tarver: Okay. And it cannot be used for petty offenses. Is that right?"
"Yes."
"Then tell me why the images can be shared with any law enforcement agency conducting 'an active law enforcement investigation'? There doesn't have to be any relevancy?"
"Sometimes crimes are cross-jurisdictional."
"Right, I understand that. But this is not saying it has to be tied to that same crime. Images from cameras may be used by any law enforcement agency. So, is that in the State of Illinois? Is that in Missouri? Is that in Alaska?"
"So, for example, if you have someone committing a federal crime, it can be shared. Like a…"
"That's not answering my question. I have a more specific question, which is this. Any law enforcement agency conducting an active law enforcement investigation… so, the first part of the paragraph says that the images and stuff are subject to and limited to those offices in the 10200099.docx 119 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 jurisdiction. But then you can take it and share it with any agency with any law enforcement investigation."
"So, if, for example, if the FBI is searching for a terrorist, they will be able to use that footage."
"Right. That's one instance. But it says any investigation. So, if the police in Chicago are investigating something wholly unrelated to what the image is capturing, or whatever is in the jurisdiction, they can just share it for any purpose. So, how does that affect individuals who would be undocumented?"
"That's not a crime."
"Any active law enforcement invest… how… here's a better question. How is investigation defined?"
"This Bill does not define the word investigation."
"Well, that's an important thing because it says images from the cameras may be used by any law enforcement agency conducting active law enforcement investigation. How do you have the images to be shared with someone for purposes of an investigation and not tell them what the investigation is? Because that's when we will find then… where we found the investigation is? What's the scope of the investigation?"
"Members, it's getting loud in here again. Representative Tarver, could you bring your remarks to a close?"
"I will."
"Yeah."
"Thank you very much."
"Appreciate that. Thank you." 10200099.docx 120 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"I'm just waiting for a answer to the question so I can bring this to a close.
"Oh, what was your question again?"
"Okay. I just want to make sure for the record we're clear. We are saying that law enforcement can share this information with another law enforcement agency with any active law enforcement investigation, but we're not going to define what the active law enforcement investigation is? Or just the word investigation?"
"Right. It's not defined in the Bill."
"And what was the purpose for not defining investigation if you can share this information with another law enforcement agency? All right, so… I got to move along. So, the images will be deleted within 30 days, unless the images are relevant to an ongoing investigation. There's the investigation word again, which I'm sure is not defined. But relevant, who determines whether it's relevant? Is that a court of law?"
"It could be litigated. So, yes."
"No. Anything can be litigated, but this says deleted within 30 days, unless the images are relevant to an ongoing investigation. So, what is the process? It has to be automatically deleted, unless it's relevant to an investigation, right. So, who determines on day 31 whether or not it's relevant to an investigation? Is it just law enforcement that gets to determine that?"
"Yes."
"Okay. No judicial oversight, law enforcement is writing this Bill, and then making all the determinations as to what 10200099.docx 121 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 an investigation is, what images are relevant to an ongoing investigation. Which agency determines that?"
"Which what?"
"Which agency? Remember, you gave me the example about the federal terrorists. So, the first…"
"It would be the investigating agency, presumably."
"Which one? The first agency can get the pictures…"
"Representative."
"I'm not getting the answer to the question."
"Please bring your remarks to a close."
"Okay. It will be less than 30 seconds if I can just get an answer to the question. Which agency would determine whether or not the images are relevant for the ongoing investigation? Would it be the first agency that handed them off to the second or the second that gets to determine?"
"The agency that would be in possession of the images."
"Okay. So, they can just determine whether or not they think that it's relevant without any court order. So, I just want to make sure I have this on the record for legislative intent. Is that the intent of the Bill?"
"I…"
"Okay. I'll move on. The last thing is, so this is not supposed to be used for discriminatory purposes and so on, all those things, right? What happens if it is? Where's the tape in the Bill? If law enforcement uses it to racially profile, if they use it for discriminatory purposes, where's the tape in the Bill?"
"If law enforcement uses it to racially profile?" 10200099.docx 122 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"So, there's language in the Bill that says this is not to be used to profile, right? And for unlawful purposes, federal and state and otherwise, right? What is the penalty if that happens?"
"A person can file a lawsuit if they feel like they're… they have been racially profiled."
"Right, except for things like qualified immunity block that. So, is it standard willful and wanton? James is there, he would know. Is the example willful and wanton?"
"Representative. Representative. Now, this is the third time…
"This is my last question."
"…this is the third time I've asked you to bring your remarks to a close."
"I haven't got an answer to the question. But this is my last… that was my last question."
"Really?"
"It really is…"
"Okay. Go ahead."
"…but I haven't got an answer to one out of 10. So… what is the penalty if someone actually uses this for unlawful purposes? And you said they could potentially sue. I'm asking what the standard is then. Is it a willful and wanton standard?"
"The Bill is silent on that."
"The Bill is silent on a lot of things, including definitions. Thank you."
"Thank you." 10200099.docx 123 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Members, we have several people waiting to speak. I'm debating whether or not I'm going to use a timer. So, I'm going to ask you to ask your questions concisely and quickly and to respect the Chair when I ask you to bring your remarks to a close. Chair recognizes Representative Mazzochi."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates she will."
"All right. First, I would like to request a verification of the vote, and then to the Sponsor. When this Bill was in committee this morning, you stated that you had not yet spoken with IDOT about their ability to implement the Bill. So, I'm… surely, you've spoken with them since then. What did the Pritzker administration have to say in terms of their ability to implement the Bill?"
"I have not spoken to IDOT."
"You have not? Okay. Let's take a look at some of the new language that's appearing in House Floor Amendment #3. I think Representative Tarver was asking you some questions in connection with legislative intent, and I think I can probably try to make it a little bit more simple and clear, as the Speaker requested. If you can look at page 12, starting at line 2. First, I just want to make clear that this camera program is a program that's being operated by the Illinois State Police, the Illinois Department of Transportation, and the Illinois State Toll Highway Authority, right?"
"Correct."
"All right. And this camera program and the description of it is for the cameras that those three entities, the ISP, IDOT, and the Tollway have put along the expressways, right?" 10200099.docx 124 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Expressways and the state highway system."
"Sure. And it's not touching anything that the municipalities, for example, do on their own?"
"There could be an expressway that ran through a municipality."
"Sure. But to the extent a municipality decides they're going to put a camera somewhere, this Bill doesn't have anything to do with what they can do with those cameras and who funds them and where they go and where they get placed, right?"
"If it's not on a expressway, highway, then this Bill doesn't impact that."
"Right. And likewise, if it's not an ISP, IDOT, or Tollway Authority, it's then that's outside the scope of this program, right?"
"Yes."
"Okay. Now, in subsection (b-5), starting on page 13, line 3, you state that each law enforcement agency shall report their statistics to the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority. And again, the law enforcement agencies you're referring to are to ISP, IDOT, and the Tollway, right?"
"Correct."
"Okay. And I'm very glad for that because, as we heard earlier this morning, we apparently can't rely on Kim Foxx's office to report her statistics that we require under State Law, so I'm glad at the very least we're relying on the state agencies to do this. All right. Now, to the Bill. Members, at the beginning of this 102nd…" 10200099.docx 125 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"To the Bill."
"…General Assembly, in February of 2021, I filed HB808. And I wrote it specifically to get more cameras in target areas where expressway shootings were occurring outside of Cook County, and I proposed an additional funding source for it as well. Now, HB1103, House Floor Amendment 3, adopts some of these HB808 concepts, which I appreciate. So, to Representative Vella's point at his press conference earlier this week, he said he wanted to see some ideas from Republicans, so I'm glad that you have some Republican ideas in this Bill. Now, here's the thing… and this is why I'm worried that you haven't actually spoken with IDOT. A year ago, in good faith, I spoke with the Pritzker administration and IDOT about whether we could move HB808. And the Pritzker administration gave me a hard no. And the reason why they said they were saying no is because they said they couldn't expand the number of cameras. They said they couldn't implement it. They said they couldn't maintain it. And they said that is was going to be too expensive for them to do. And my Bill is just limited to within five miles of Cook County, plus certain areas where shootings had already occurred. This is a much more expansive scope. Now, Chairman Slaughter, who's standing right by you, I asked you if we could still try to move that Bill. I was willing to amend it, if that's what was needed to get it passed, because I understood that this was important for public safety. And still you said no. You would not allow it a vote in committee. So, now, I think it's very interesting that over a year later, at the end of Session, now all of a sudden you've decided 10200099.docx 126 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 this is a good idea worth taking a vote on. Now, I can live with better late than never because a good idea is a good idea, and I think we should do what we need to do to get things passed to keep people safe. But unfortunately, just as we've seen with Governor Pritzker and the Capital Fund, where we were supposed to whole host of new roads that haven't materialized, and just because Governor Pritzker and IDOT have the legislative authority to do something, doesn't mean they are ready, willing, or able to implement it. So, let's be realistic. This legislation is only moving because Governor Pritzker and the Majority Party want a sound bite to feed you about how they're going to keep you safe. But I have no trust whatsoever that Governor Pritzker is actually going to do the work to implement this Bill. But there is one thing that is very positive about this Bill and that's the language that's on page 13, lines 23 to 24. Everyone in this room knows that Kim Foxx, the Cook County State's Attorney, has repeatedly refused to do much of anything to prosecute these expressway shootings. I'm glad we're recognizing that her approach has been an ideological and a prosecutorial failure. We shouldn't have to give new authority to prosecute these crimes to the Illinois Attorney General. Thankfully, this Bill does. So maybe, finally, the people in Cook County, and the rest of us who have to deal with her inability and unwillingness to do her job properly, are finally going to start to see some light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you, Madam Speaker."
"Chair recognizes Representative Ann Williams." Williams, A.: "Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?" 10200099.docx 127 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"She indicates she will." Williams, A.: "Leader Greenwood, just a quick clarification. Does this Bill apply to DuSable Lake Shore Drive?"
"Yes." Williams, A.: "Okay. So, thank you for that. Just quickly to the Bill. You know, I've never had…"
"To the Bill." Williams, A.: "Thank you. I've never been a big fan of cameras. I don't like surveillance. I don't like to use those tools unless necessary. But I've spoken with law enforcement in my district quite a bit over the past six months to a year about what they need in terms of tools to fight the surge in crime that we've seen in some Chicago neighborhoods and elsewhere, and technology is always the answer. And I believe here we have done the right… a good job of striking the balance between some of these privacy concerns and providing law enforcement this much needed tool. So, I will be supporting the Bill. Thank you."
"Chair recognizes Representative Jones."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates that she will."
"Leader Greenwood, what was your intent behind this Bill?"
"The intent is to expand the expressway cameras. It initially started with St. Clair County, which was my county. But after speaking to several law enforcement chiefs and sheriff associations and the ISP, the cameras will be expanded through Boone, Bureau, Champaign, DeKalb, DuPage, Grundy, Henry, Kane, Kendall, Lake, LaSalle, Macon, Madison, McHenry, 10200099.docx 128 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Morgan, Peoria, Rock Island, Sangamon, Saint Clair, Will, and Winnebago."
"And how many expressways shootings have taken place and/ or carjackings in those areas that you just mentioned?"
"I don't have the exact numbers, Representative."
"Will it surprise you that over 40 percent of shootings have taken places in these areas that you've mentioned?"
"It wouldn't surprise me."
"Would it surprise you that over 185 expressway shootings took place in 2021 in Chicago expressways?"
"It would not."
"Would it surprise you before that 123 shootings… expressway shootings happened in a COVID year on expressway shootings?"
"It would not."
"So, Representative, you were here when… on I-57 when Tamara Clayton was brought down here in Springfield, correct?"
"Correct."
"And you saw firsthand how these expressway shootings, before the cameras, affected families."
"Correct."
"This Bill doesn't have Kim Foxx's name in it, does it?
"No."
"This Bill doesn't have any other state's attorney name in it, does it?"
"No."
"Madam Speaker, to the Bill."
"To the Bill." 10200099.docx 129 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"It saddens me that people have gotten up on this floor to talk about the number of ways that this Bill has not impacted victims on our expressways. I mentioned 185 shootings, expressway shootings, on our expressways that happened in Chicago that many of them represent. This Bill is not what it's being portrayed as. This Bill is to save lives. I've stood up on this floor many times and given numbers from the Illinois State Police of how this Bill is impacting, putting expressway cameras has caught people who shot families on our expressways. I've stood up on this floor and praised the Illinois State Police for them producing the dashboard that many of you can go to the State Police Web site and look at for yourself. But yet, you stand up on this floor and put Kim Foxx's name in here, who has nothing to do with this Bill. This Bill is about saving lives. So, if you want to save lives, I ask you to support this Bill 'cause it's not about what you say that Kim Foxx can or will do. Forget Kim Foxx. This Bill is about saving lives. Kim Foxx is an excellent state's attorney, but this Bill… laugh as you… I'm glad the lawyers on that side are laughing because it's not funny. When people get shot on the expressway and they die, it's not funny. When the families come up here, as Tamara Clayton's family did, and you saw the pain in her eyes, it's not funny. It's not funny when Bills like this are meant to protect families and victims. This is a great Bill. It's a pilot program to expand the expressway cameras in many of the areas that you represent. Many of the areas you represent. This Bill is a pilot program that the Representative is bringing that is going to save lives, and I ask that you support this 10200099.docx 130 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 Bill. Thank you, Representative, for bringing this Bill forward. And I encourage a strong 'aye' vote on this Bill."
"Chair recognizes Representative Cassidy. Mr. Clerk. Chair recognizes Representative Cassidy."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'll just go directly to the Bill."
"To the Bill."
"We had robust discussion in committee. Many of my colleagues have asked similar questions that reflect my concerns. The expressway camera concept is one that I think is worthy of expansion. I am befuddled that we can't be clear about access to the images. I don’t think it should be exempt from FOIA, that's a major red flag. But I'm going to really move to the Ring camera portion of the program and just point out, we are… we keep pointing to other states that are creating bounty systems and mocking them and criticizing them for that and here we're doing it. And I just don’t think this is the direction… that that is the direction that we want to go. I appreciate that many of the changes that the ACLU requested that… you put some of that in. There were some critical pieces that were left out. The ACLU remains opposed. And unfortunately, I will be opposed as well. I urge a 'no' vote."
"Chair recognizes Leader Batinick."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the record reflect that Representative Mark Luft will be excused for the remainder of the night? Thank you."
"The record will reflect that. Chair recognizes Representative McCombie." 10200099.docx 131 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"She indicates that she will."
"Representative, who's going to be the Senate Sponsor of this Bill?"
"I don't know."
"Thank you."
"Chair recognizes Representative Windhorst."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates that she will."
"Thank you. Leader Greenwood, on page 12 of the Bill, lines 11 through 16, dealing with the camera program we've been discussing, specifically beginning in verse… oh, I'm sorry. In line 15, it says, 'investigation of any forcible felony, including, but limited to, offenses involving the use of a firearm'. Particularly as that phrase relates to use of a firearm, not all offenses involving firearms are forcible felonies. There's sometimes unlawful use of weapons, possession of a firearm illegally that is not a forcible felony. So, is it your intent that this program be able to be used for all weapons violations or just weapons violations that are also forcible felonies?"
"It falls under the definition of use."
"So, would that use be related to a forcible felony or could it be any illegal use of a firearm, whether or not it's a forcible felony?"
"Forcible felony is the controlling language in the Bill." 10200099.docx 132 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"As it relates to this program, I'm glad to see it's going to be expanded. I wish it were expanded even more because the use of the phrase forcible felony is fairly limited, especially when we're dealing with offenses that relate to the use of a motor vehicle. Aggravated DUI is not a forcible felony. Possession of a stolen motor vehicle, not a forcible felony. Aggravated fleeing and alluding a police officer, not a forcible felony. In fact, there are some possession weapon by a felon may not be a forcible felony. And those are all examples of offenses for which this program could serve a purpose and would be valuable. So, it'd be my preference that it would be broadened beyond just as limiting language of a forcible felony to include offenses that would assist law enforcement in removing people who are breaking the law, committing high-level felonies and allow them to be investigated and hopefully prosecuted for their illegal activity. So, my preference would be to expand this program out from where it is. I appreciate you bringing forward what you have, but I think we could do more. Thank you."
"Thank you."
"Chair recognizes Representative Lilly."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"She indicates she will."
"Representative, is this a pilot project?"
"Yes."
"Representative, is this an expansion of existing law?"
"Yes."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, I ask you to consider the importance of this piece of legislation. It saves lives, and it directs 10200099.docx 133 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 our police and all of our law with materials that allows them to do the best job they could possibly do to protect all of us. I ask for your 'aye' vote."
"Leader Greenwood to close."
"I ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."
"Members, Representative Mazzochi has requested a verification. All Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1103 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk."
"Representative Cassidy."
"No."
"Representative Cassidy votes 'no'. Representative Costa Howard."
"Costa Howard votes 'yes'."
Clerk Hollman: "Representative Costa Howard votes 'yes'. Representative Guerrero-Cuellar."
"Yes."
"Representative Guerrero-Cuellar votes 'yes'. Representative Jacobs."
"Jacobs is 'yes'."
"Representative Jacobs votes 'yes'. Representative Kelly."
"Kelly's a 'yes'."
"Representative Kelly votes 'yes'."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. Verification requested by Representative Mazzochi is out of order because she did not vote in 'opposition'. On this 10200099.docx 134 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022 question, there are 89 voting in 'favor', 4 voting 'opposed', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Grant. For what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Yeah, so I'd like to ask that I be put on 110… was it 1103 we just voted on? I voted incorrectly. I meant to vote 'yes'."
"The record shall so reflect your request. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."
"Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 799, offered by Representative Haas. House Resolution 800, offered by Representative Batinick. House Resolution 801, offered by Representative Andrade. House Resolution 802, offered by Representative Mason. House Resolution 803, offered by Representative Halpin. House Resolution 804, offered by Representative Halbrook. House Resolution 808, offered by Representative Butler. And House Resolution 809, offered by Representative Butler."
"Leader Greenwood moves for the adoption of Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Agreed Resolutions are adopted. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Greenwood moves the House stand adjourned until Wednesday, April the 6th, at the hour of noon. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned." 10200099.docx 135 STATE OF ILLINOIS 102nd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 99th Legislative Day 4/5/2022
"House Perfunctory Session will come to order. Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 5742, offered by Representative Manley, a Bill for an Act concerning safety. House Bill 5743, offered by Representative Vella, a Bill for an Act concerning revenue. House Bill 5744, offered by Representative Moylan, a Bill for an Act concerning transportation. First Reading of these House Bills. There being no further business, the House Perfunctory Session will stand adjourned." 10200099.docx 136