"The hour of 12:00 o'clock having arrived, the House will now be in order. The Chaplain for today is the Reverend Anthony Tzortzis of St. Anthony's Hellenic Orthodox Church located here in Springfield, Illinois. Father Tzortzis."
"Amen. Glory to Thee, O Our God, glory to Thee. Oh Heavenly King and Comforter, the spirit of truth who art everywhere present and feelest all things, the treasury of the blessings, and giver of all life, come and dwell in the hearts and the minds of our State Representatives and all loyal officers of our government of our country. Purify them from everything and of Thy goodness, save their souls. Amen."
"We will be led in the Pledge... Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Zito."
"I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Representative Polk, excused absences on your side of the aisle, Sir."
"Would you please excuse Representative Margalus, Dolly Hallstrom. Those are the only two that I have at this time. Thank you."
"Let the records indicate that Representatives Margalus and Hallstrom are excused because of illness. Representative Matijevich, your side of the aisle, Sir."
"Let the record show that Representative Redmond is excused, Representative Kustra, and Representative Braun due to illness."
"Let the record indicate that Representatives Kustra and Braun are excused because of illness, and 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 Representative Braun...Redmond because of illness in the family. The record will so indicate. Roll Call for Attendance. On page eight, Constitutional Amendments Second Reading. HJRCA #13, Representative Daniels, out of the record. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #15. Read the Resolution, Mr. Clerk."
"House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #15, proposed to amend Section 1 of Article 8 of the State Constitution relating to general provisions. It has been read a Second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Amendments from the floor? Any Motions filed with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Amendments from the floor?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Third Reading. Read the Resolution. Mr. Clerk, let's wait till that is enrolled so that it can be read properly. Page seven of the Calendar, Consent Calendar Second Readings. Read the Bills, Mr. Clerk."
"Consent Calendar Second Reading Second Legislative Day. Senate Bill 53, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 173, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 429, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 462, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 491, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 544, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 581, a Bill for an Act repealing the Little Calumet River Pollution Act and the Little Calumet River Flood Control Act. Senate Bill 592, a Bill for an Act to amend the 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 625, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Senate Bill 631, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. Senate Bill 655, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Senate Bill 721, a Bill for an Act authorizing the Department of Conservation to acquire certain property in Jo daviess County and directing the Department to reconvey the property to the Galena Preservation and Restoration Association. Senate Bill 899, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to natural resources, research, data collection, environmental studies, and the Illinois Development Bond Act. Senate Bill 900, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to natural resources, research, data collection, and environmental studies. Senate Bill 914, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Senate Bill 1084, a Bill for an Act to amend the Agricultural Fair Act. Senate Bill 1106, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. Second Reading of these Bills. Amendments #1 were adopted in Committee in relationship to Senate Bill 900. Amendment #1 was adopted in relationship to Senate Bill 899...in Committee."
"Any Motions in relation to any of the Amendments read?"
"No Motions filed."
"No Motions filed. Representative Dick Kelly for the purposes of an announcement."
"Yeah, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. We have a... some distinguished visitors with us from the 57th District. That is Wilma 'Clapton' of the Lebanon Arts Council and Ruth Hill of the...equal opportunity officer at the Scott Air Force Base. Ruth and Wilma who are up in the gallery to our right. Ruth is a sister of my...of our 3 57th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 5, 1981 colleague and my seatmate, Representative Wyvetter Younge. And I would like the Members of the House to acknowledge their presence today, and we welcome them and hope they enjoy their stay in Springfield. Ruth and Wilma. Please recognize them."
"Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."
"Committee Reports. Representative Rigney, Chairman of the Committee on Agriculture, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 5, 1981 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' Senate Bill 764. Representative Catania, Chairman from the Committee on Public Institutions and Social Services, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 5, 1981, and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Senate Bill 1006. Representative Neff, Chairman from the Committee on Transportation, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken June 4, 1981 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Consent Calendar' Senate Bill 66."
"Any messages from the Senate?"
": No Messages from the Senate."
"Representative Tuerk for the purpose of a request."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would like to ask leave of the House to waive the posting rule so that Senate Bill 646 could be heard in Labor and Commerce on Tuesday."
"The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call so that Senate Bill 646 may be posted in the Committee on Labor and Commerce for next week. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Representative Levin."
"Yes, reserving the right to object, can the person 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day requesting indicate what the Bill does?"
"Representative Epton." June 5, 1981
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also ask leave to waive the appropriate rule so Senate Bill 1147 which was just assigned to Insurance Committee may be heard on Monday. wish I could tell you what the Bill is about, but I have no I idea."
"The Gentleman asks leave for the Attendance Roll Call to suspend the appropriate rule so that Senate Bill 1137 may be heard in the next meeting in the Committee on Insurance. Is there objection? Is there leave? Leave being granted, the rule is suspended. 1147, Senate Bill 1147. Any other announcements or requests? Representative Telcser."
"Mr. Speaker, I wonder if I could have leave to suspend the appropriate rule to suspend the posting requirement to have Senate Bill 186 heard in the Committee on Public Institutions and Social Services on Monday, June 8 at 4 p.m. We were in the Committee this morning, and there weren't enough Sponsors present, and the Committee had to adjourn until Monday, in which case the Bill has to be reposted."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule and use the Attendance Roll Call so that Senate Bill 186 may be heard in the next meeting of the Committee on Public Institutions and Social Services. Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is granted. Senate Bill 186 is posted for the next meeting of the Committee. Representative McClain, you have a request, Sir, for Senate Bill 960? Representative... Representative Bell."
"...I would like leave for Senate Bill 960 to be heard in the Revenue Committee next week." 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day Speaker June 5, 1981
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate posting rules so that Senate Bill 960 can be heard in the Committee on Revenue at its next meeting. The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? There being none, leave is granted. 960 will be so posted. Have... have all who are here on the Roll Call? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 161 Members present and a quorum is here. Representative Matijevich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Speaker Ryan and I are co-chief Sponsors of Senate Bill 968. It was just assigned today to Revenue Committee. Representative Ewing isn't here, but I discussed it with Art Telcser, and I would like to have leave and use the Attendance Roll Call so that it can be heard in the House Revenue Committee next Tuesday."
"Representative, you might...there is objection."
"By whom?"
"Representative Wolf. Representative Reilly."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Two requests, one for a Bill of mine, Senate Bill 1095. Leave to suspend the posting requirements so that it can be heard at 4 o'clock Monday in Public Institutions which meets in room 118."
"The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call to suspend the appropriate rule so that Senate Bill 1095 can be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Public Institutions. Does the Gentleman...is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? There being no objection, leave is granted, and the Bill will be posted. Representative Reilly."
"Second request, Mr. Speaker. I was just notified a minute ago that five Bills have just been assigned to Elementary and Secondary Education which I chair. They are Senate Bills 416, 711, 755, 1020, and 1190, and I would ask 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 leave to suspend the posting requirements so that those can be heard in our Committee Tuesday, June 9 at 9 o'clock."
"You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. Is there question on that? Representative Lechowicz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I believe as a matter of courtesy when a person asks that the rules be suspended, we'd be given a brief explanation. And I know it was done yesterday, and I can't see why we're not doing the same practice today not only on this series of Bills, Jim, but on everything else that has been suspended here this afternoon."
"I...In order to expedite the matters, the Gentleman's point is well taken. If you would give the people making the request your attention I think we can expedite this and get out a little bit sooner here. Representative Reilly or Schneider, if you have that attention that you may 'allay' the fears of whoever may have some concern. Representative Schneider."
"I just wanted the numbers again, Mr. Speaker. I didn't catch them, and I hadn't seen the contents either."
"Senate Bills 416, 711, 755, 1020, and 1190. On this question, Representative Levin."
"Yes, Sir. Mr. Speaker, I object to Senate Bill 1020."
"The Gentleman objects to 1020. Representative Reilly."
"Yeah, Mr. Speaker, none of these are my Bills. I don't...I could care less about them. If the Sponsors of Senate Bills 416, 711, 755, 1020, or 1190 want them heard, they can take care of the appropriate request. I withdraw my Motion."
"The Gentleman properly withdraws his Motion. Representative Levin, for what purpose do you seek recognition?" 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 5, 1981 57th Legislative Day
"I just would like the record to reflect that I object to any request to suspend the posting requirement for Senate Bill 1020 be it made later...now or later."
"Well, I don't...I don't think that kind of request could be made, Sir, properly to carry us infutural indefinitely. The Motion properly is made at the time the matter is before the House. If you waive, we will recognize you. Any other announcements? Representative STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 distinguished Minority Leader if you would like. I'll...make my request later again."
"Representative Kane. Are you withdrawing that now, Sir?"
"...Objections, I'll make the Motion."
"The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call to suspend the appropriate rules so that Senate Bill 697, 1030, and 1197 may be heard in the next meeting of the Committee of Personnel, Pensions, and Veterans' Affairs. Is there objection? There being none, the Gentleman have leave? He has leave, and the Bills will be so posted. Representative Leinenweber."
"I would ask leave of the...to suspend the appropriate rule to hear House Bill... or Senate Bill 591 in Judiciary I Committee Tuesday morning at 8 o'clock. It provides the court procedure for leasing oil and gas of owners who cannot be located."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rules so that Senate Bill 591 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Judiciary I, and the Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? There being none, leave is granted, and the posting rule is properly waived. Representative Macdonald."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I hope all Members of the Conservation and Natural Resource Committee will pay attention. Through an error in the Calendar, we are not listed as having our meeting on Monday. We will be meeting Monday at 2 o'clock in room 118. I don't know why we are not listed, but we're not on the Calendar, and we will be meeting Monday at 2 p.m. in 118."
"Representative Bullock, for what purpose do you seek attention?" 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981
"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to suspend the appropriate rule and ask leave for the Attendance Roll Call to have Senate Bill 1198 reposted for Monday at 4 p.m. in Public Institutions and Social Services. I have spoken with the Chairman, and the Chairperson has no objections. I don't know of any objection to the Motion."
"The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting rules so that Senate Bill 1198 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Public Institutions and Social Services. The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? There being none, leave is granted. The Bill will so posted. Any further request along this line? Representative McBroom."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Would this be the appropriate time, Mr. Speaker, for a request to ask for unanimous consent for the adoption of a Resolution? I would be happy to explain it and tell you who the Sponsors are."
"Mr. Clerk, is the Resolution distributed?"
"Yes."
"The Resolution is distributed."
"Proceed, Sir."
"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I think this Resolution is on all of the Members' desks. This relates to the insurance problem which I alluded to yesterday. The Resolution is sponsored by myself, Representative Lechowicz, Representative Ryan, Levin, Vitek, Macdonald, Irv Smith, and Wyvetter Younge. This requests the Department of Insurance, in effect, to leave things alone, leave it in tact. I ask for the suspension of the appropriate rule and immediate adoption of the Resolution."
"The Gentleman asks leave for suspension of the 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 appropriate rules for the immediate consideration of Resolution 351. And the Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave being granted, House Resolution 351 will now be considered by the House. Representative McBroon."
"Well, the Resolution is self-explanatory and I don't..."
"Excuse me, Sir. Will you give the Gentleman order, please? This affects the problem brought up yesterday in regard to the question of insurance. Proceed, Sir." McBroom "Well, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, it simply says that the House encourages the Director of Personnel to reconsider the acceptance of the proposed contract with Blue Cross-Blue Shield and to approve a health insurance benefit package which maintains current benefit levels. I move for the adoption and request a favorable Roll Call."
"On that question, Representative Preston."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"He indicates he will."
"yes."
"Representative McBroom, would this package that you're asking the Department of..."
"Just a minute... Just a minute, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Preston. I can't...try me again, Lee."
"Excuse me, Representative, will the people standing about Representative McBroom leave? Proceed."
"Mr. McBroom,...
"Proceed, Sir."
"Would the insurance package that you're asking the Department of Public... Personnel to approve, would that contain any provisions for insurance for Members of the 11 STATE OP ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSENBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 General Assembly after they retire from the General Assembly?"
"What we are trying to do and what I think we are accomplishing, Representative Preston, is to leave the present insurance program that we have in tact. That, in effect, will cost the State of Illinois between 8 and 9 million dollars more money, and we're going to have to have an appropriation for that and find an appropriate appropriation Bill to tack that on to. We just feel that this might give further substance to this Resolution to what we're endeavoring to accomplish."
"Does the present insurance package, then, contain any provision for coverage after a Member is no longer a Member of the General Assembly?"
"I do not think so. I would appreciate some help on that question."
"Does the..."
"Representative Preston, excuse me. I think on that point, Representative Lechowicz can give you a clear answer. Representative Lechowicz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The answer is no. That's a separate Bill."
"Thank you, Mr. Lechowicz."
"Proceed, Sir."
"Does the...does your Resolution apply to any other than General Assembly Members? Does it apply to any other State employees?"
"All State employees."
"All State employees. Thank you."
"Any further discussion on this? Representative Epton."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would simply like to clarify the point that the 12 57th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 5, 1981 Department of Insurance has nothing to do with this particular problem, nor does the Illinois Insurance Study Commission. We don't want to be confused with the Group Insurance Advisory Commission which is a Body separate and entirely unto itself. Thank you."
"On this question, Representative Huskey."
"I'd like to... you know, the word 'General Assembly' has been used several times. This is not a General Assembly Bill. It's a State of Illinois Employees' Bill, is that not right?"
"You're absolutely right."
"And it's...and the word 'General Assembly' it's just a small group in the big, overall big plan. It's nothing special with the General Assembly. Am I right?"
"You're absolutely right. I'm glad you clarified it, Representative Huskey."
"On that question, Representative Levin."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in support of this Resolution. I think it's important to note that the Director has not yet signed the contract, that is, some day off, and the purpose of this Resolution is to put him and Blue Cross on notice that the General Assembly is not satisfied with the proposed contract and may in fact take appropriate action to change that contract if voluntary action by the Director is not taken. Copies of this Resolution would be presented to both the Director and to Blue Cross, and we put them both on notice. I think it's an important Resolution, and it deserves the support of every Member of the House."
"On that question, Representative Johnson. No,... Further discussion? Representative McBroom, to close."
"I'd appreciate a favorable Roll Call." 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day
June 5, 1981 "Representative Lechowicz, do you wish to close as Cosponsor?"
"Mr. Speaker, I'd just want to save some time of the House. I believe this matter has been adequately discussed. If you think that the State employees should be paying approximately a minimum of $200.00 or more when they visit the hospital, fine. Then vote against this Resolution, if you believe that employee benefits should be construed at the present level of health care for the State employees throughout this State, then I would strongly support House Resolution 351. Please vote 'aye.'"
"You've heard the Gentleman's Motion. The question is 'Shall House Resolution 351 be adopted?' Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'nay'. Mr. Clerk, the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 144 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'nay', 2 voting 'present'. This Resolution having reached a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Page 2 of the Calendar... Representative Van Duyne, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Very quickly, I would like to have leave of the House to have Senate Bill 127 heard in Counties and Townships. I have checked with Representative Collins, and also Representative McMaster, and there is no problem."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rules so that Senate Bill 127 can be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on..."
"Tuesday."
"...Tuesday on Committees on Counties and Townships, and the Gentleman asks leave for use of the 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is granted. The Bill will be so posted. Representative McMaster."
"Just one question. Has the Bill been reassigned to us, LeRoy? You and I talked about it earlier, and I think Representative Collins would have to answer that."
"Well, Representative Collins sent me over to see Representative Telcser's secretary, and I have done that."
"And it is reassigned to us then? Fine. Then I will ask permission to hear that Bill on Tuesday along with several others that have been assigned to us as recently as today that were not on the call."
"Well, we've done 127. Leave has been granted on that. On a point of information, Representative Collins."
"Well, Yes, Mr. Speaker. It is being reassigned. I don't know if it has mechanically been accomplished yet, but is...it is true that it is being reassigned."
"Representative Ewing, for what purpose, Sir?"
"A request to suspend the rule when you're through with this."
"Proceed."
"Alright, I would like to request suspension of the rule for the posting of three House...Senate Bills to the Revenue Committee, the only three that have been assigned to us that haven't been posted - Senate Bill 255...255, 953, and 968."
"Representative, there has been objection to 968. So we'll take the Motion on two. That was previously put, and there has been...was objection made to that. The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule so that Senate Bill 255 and Senate Bill 953 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Revenue. The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave being granted, the rule...posting rule shall be waived for the Bills mentioned. Representative Stanley, for what purpose, Sir?"
"Yeah, I would like leave to suspend the appropriate posting rule to have Senate Bill 755 heard next week in Elementary and Secondary Education."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule so that Senate Bill 755 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education. The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? Leave...leave is granted. Pardon? Representative Stanley, the Bill is assigned to that Committee. Yes, alright. The Membership should be aware that if Motions are put to assigned or to suspend posting rules to Committees that the Bills have not been assigned to, those Motions, although leave being granted for, in fact become null and void. So just so that we understand where we're going on that. Page 2 of the Calendar, Senate Bills Second Reading Short Debate Calendar. The Chair now intends to consider those Bills on Second Reading which...to which Amendments are available and Amendments have...are before the Members to be...are before the Members to be discussed or those Bills with no Amendments. Those Bills to which Amendments are pending shall not be called. House Bill 689, Representative Satterthwaite. Page 2, Senate Bills Second Reading. Do you wish to proceed with it? Proceed, Sir. Read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 689, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the floor?" 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day
"None."
June 5, 1981 "Third Reading. On page 2, Senate Bills Second Reading Regular Calendar. Senate Bill 61, Representative Braun, out of the record.. Senate Bill 181, Representative McMaster. Senate Bill 181. We are on page 2 of the Calendar Senate Bills Second Reading. Do you wish the Bill called, Sir? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 181, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House... Senate Bill 197, Representative Huskey. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 197, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." Speaker Peters: s: "Any Amendments from the floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 220, Representative McMaster. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 220, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Reform Act, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Third Reading. Any Committee....any Amendments from the floor?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 220, Third Reading. There are Amendments pending on the follwing two Bills. Take those out of the record. Senate Bill 224 and Senate Bill 256. Senate Bill 388, Representative Terzich. the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
Read "Senate Bill 388, a Bill for an Act to amend the 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 Illinois Vehicle Code, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 484, Representative Ronan. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 484, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House (sic) Bill 524, Representative Jim Kelley. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 524, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Care Act, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 10... Senate Bill 1029, Representative Woodyard. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Bill 1029, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act, Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1109, out of the record. There are Amendments pending. Senate Bill 1173, Representative Braun, out of the record. Representative Conti. Agreed Resolution, Representative Collins. Oh, Representative Conti is back."
"House Resolution 352, Barkhausen et al. House Resolution 353, Stanley et al."
"Representative Conti." 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Mr. Roman P. Miller of Waukegan, Associate Superintendent for Business Affairs, is retiring from District 60. That House Resolution was introduced by Barkhausen. House Resolution 353, Stanley - et al. It has come to the attention of this House that on July 7 is the silver anniversary of Vernon and Gloria 'Harvey' who reside on Colorado Avenue in Frankfort, Illinois. Are celebrating their silver anniversary. I move for the adoption of the Resolutions."
"The Gentleman has moved adoption of the Resolutions. Those in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed. The Resolutions are adopted. The House will just stand at ease for... Representative Leverenz."
"Mr..."
"For what purpose, Sir?"
"...Chairman, an inquiry of the Chair."
"Yes."
"I have a Bill up in Executive Committee. I find it did not meet this week. I find no scheduled meeting for it on the Calendar for next week, and the deadline is still June 10. Is that correct?"
"So far correct."
"Then are we going to address moving these Bills out of Committee without a hearing in Committee which would further delay an orderly work effort on the House floor? Now this is not an inquiry of the mushrooms, but only from a Member wanting to find out when I could have my Bill heard in the Executive Committee which apparently has not posted any Bills for hearings that have been assigned to Committee. Is it a problem that the person that handles the assignment of Bills should have assigned these to another Committee?"
"Representative Leverenz, the best that the Chair 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 indicates or can indicate to you is to take that up with the Chairman of the Committee. I...well, I find myself in the same position. Let me know what happens."
"With all due respect to the Chair, Speaker, I cannot find the Chairman of the Committee. Ah-ha, thank you, Sir."
"The House will now just stand at ease for about two or three minutes till we get the Adjournment Resolution ready. Representative Kustra, for what purpose, Sir?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave to suspend the appropriate rule regarding posting notices for Senate Bill 1055 which has been assigned to the Elementary and Secondary Education Committee. I would like to have that heard next week, and Senate Bill 642 which has been assigned to the Higher Education Committee."
"Would you repeat the Committee, Sir?"
"Senate Bill 642 to Higher Education, Senate Bill 1055, Elementary and Secondary Education."
"The Gentleman asks leave to... Representative Zito."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like an explanation of those Bills if we could please."
"Content of the Bills, Representative Kustra."
"Senate Bill 642 deals with the Scholarship Commission, and it changes the Banner in which need is defined regarding the academic scholarships. It passed out of the Senate handly, and they would like to have it heard this week. The other Bill, Senate Bill 1055, I checked with Representative Schneider, he has agreed that the Bill could at least be heard. It deals with dismissal of teachers and notice."
"Thank you."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 appropriate rules so that Senate Bill 642 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Higher Education and that Senate Bill 1055 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education. And the Gentleman also asks leave for the use of the Attendance Roll Call to suspend that rule. Is there objection? The Gentleman has leave. The rule is suspended, and the Bills will be posted."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."
"Representative Ebbesen."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I wonder if I could have leave for...to have...on the posting rules for Senate Bill 270 to have it heard in Higher Education. It would have to be reassigned from Executive. I have the reassignment in Motion putting it into Higher Ed."
"Turn me off."
"Well, Representative Ebbesen, the...the Chair will take the Motion if it is not, however, assigned to that Committee for which the...you're making the Motion. Please understand that the action here we take is null and void. So assuming it is going to happen, I...are you...okay."
"Turn me off."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rules so that Senate Bill 270 can be heard in the next meeting of the Committee on..."
"Higher Education."
"...Higher Education, and the Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call to suspend that rule. Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is granted, and the appropriate rule is suspended. Any further requests? Messages from the Senate."
"A message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolutions, an adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives to wit: Senate Joint Resolution 49, resolved by the Senate of the 82nd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the House of Representatives concurring herein that when the Senate adjourns on Friday, June 5, 1981, it stands adjourned until Tuesday June 9, 1981 at 12 o'clock noon. And when the House of Representatives adjourns on Friday, June 5, 1981, it stands adjourned until Monday, June 8, 1981 at 12 o'clock noon. Adopted by the Senate June 5, 1981. Kenneth Wright, Secretary."
"Representative Capparelli, did you have a request to be put? Representative Capparelli."
"No, Mr. Speaker, I made a file to discharge Committee, but I understand that Judiciary II is going to be posted. She doesn't have time to put it in the record. Thank you."
"Okay, fine. Fine, Sir. Representative Topinka."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would just like to..."
"Excuse me. Will the people in front of the Lady please clear the way. Rep..."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I just wanted to make you all aware that we have the distinct honor of having the Congressman of the 4th District here, Ed Derwinski, with us. And he is on the floor now, and if we could all give him a round of applause."
"Representative Derwinski served a number of years ago and used to be C.L. McCormick's seatmate. Representative Derwinski, do you wish to say a word? Representative Steczo, for what purpose, Sir?" 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981
"Mr. Speaker, four House Bills of which I am the chief Sponsor were inadvertently tabled. They were supposed to have been placed on the Interim Study Calendar of the House Elementary and Secondary Education Committee. House Bills 1408, 14..."
"Excuse me, slower."
"Oh, sorry. 1408, 1455, 1456, and 1573. Mr. Speaker, I would ask for leave to use the Attendance Roll Call to have these Bills taken from the table and placed on the Interis Study Calendar of the Elementary and Secondary Education Committee."
"On that question, Representative Reilly. House Bills. On that question, Representative Schneider. House Bills."
"I just want to know what they are as usual. I know they're going to Interim, but just out of curiosity."
"The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call to take from the table House Bills 1408, 1455, 1456, 1572, and place them...or return them to the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education and place them in Interim Study."
"Mr. Speaker, that was 1573."
"1573. To read again, 1408, 1455, 1456, and 1573. The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. This Gentleman...is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is granted and so ordered. Representative Huskey."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, could I have leave to have Senate Bill 1197...it is assigned to Veterans' Affairs Committee, heard at their next Committee meeting Tuesday at 4 o'clock?"
"You're asking...you're asking for the posting rule suspension?" 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981
"Whatever the appropriate rule is...to suspend the appropriate rule to have that heard."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule so that Senate Bill 1197 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Personnel, Pensions, and Veterans' Affairs. The Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is granted and so ordered."
"Thank you."
"Representative...Representative Piel."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave of the House to suspend the posting requirements on two Bills that are coming before...they are assigned to House Financial Institutions, Senate Bill 901 is sponsored by Representative Kustra, and Senate Bill 1033, Representative Kustra's Bill also."
"On that question, Representative Leon. The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule so that Senate Bill 901 and Senate Bill 1033 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Banks and Financial Institutions, and the Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call for that suspension. Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave granted. The rule is suspended and so ordered. Representative Pullen."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I ask leave to..."
"Hold on. Hold on, Penny. Proceed, Ma'am."
"I ask leave to take House Bill 224 off of the table and place it on the Interim Study Calendar of the Committee on Revenue."
"The Lady asks...the Lady asks leave to take from the table House Bill 224 and to place in the Committee...on 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day Interia Study in the Committee on Revenue. June 5, 1981 And the Lady asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? Representative Ewing."
"Mr... Mr. Speaker, she would like to place this on the Spring Calendar?"
"ΝΟ, the Lady asked leave to take the Bill from the table and to place it in Interim Study in the Committee on Revenue,"
"What is the...what vote is required to discharge this from the Committee, then?"
"It takes 107, at this point, to take it off the table unless you object. If you object, then that Motion must be in writing, and we cannot hear that Motion."
"I understand. I'm saying once the Bill is moved to Interim Study, what does it take to bring it to the House floor?"
"The...the Chair would give an unscholarly opinion that it is 89. Representative Ewing."
"The answer was 107 or 89?"
"Representative Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, any Bills that sit in Interim Study were Bills that were tabled, and it takes 107 to take from the table."
"The Lady is asking leave to take it from the table and send it back to Committee."
"It takes 107 votes."
"That is correct, but the Gentleman's question is once it is in Committee, how many votes it takes to discharge the Committee."
"It takes 89 if it is before June 30."
"Representative Levin. I'm sorry, Representative Bowman."
"Thank you. I know we look alike, but...no, I'm looking 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981 for the rule now, Mr. Speaker, but I believe it is 107 votes to take from the Interim Study Calendar. To take from the Interim Study Calendar."
"The Gentleman's question was, 'What does it take to discharge Committee?'"
"Yeah, the point is once it is on the Interim Study Calendar it has to be taken from the Interim Study Calendar before the Committee can be discharged."
"Had the Gentleman asked that question, the guestion would have been 107. That is not the question he asked."
"Okay, but I am suggesting to Representative Ewing, I believe, is that the...before the Committee can be discharged it has to be taken from the Interim Study Calendar of that Committee. That requires 107 votes."
"Representative Giorgi."
"There has been some controversy here. As I understand, she won't call a Committee meeting, so why should we be pulling a Bill off of the table for her?"
"That, in terms of this discussion, I think that is out of order, Sir."
"Well, I thought that somebody ought to know."
"Representative Ewing."
"I have no further questions."
"The Lady asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Representative Giorgi objects. Representative Christensen."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, could I have leave of the House to suspend the appropriate rule to have Senate Bill 649 heard before the Agricultural Committee?"
"The Lady objects. The...Mr. Clerk, is that Motion on the Calendar? Not being on the Calendar, the Lady is within her rights in objecting. Representative 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day Keane for the purpose of a request." June 5, 1981
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave to suspend the posting requirements for Counties and Townships for House... Senate Bills 652, 653, and 654. I also would like to ask for leave to suspend the posting requirements for Senate Bill 676 in Executive, and Senate Bill 932 in Judiciary II."
"What is the last one?"
"932."
"In where?"
"Judiciary."
"We'll take these one at a time. We'll take them one at a time. The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rules to post Senate Bill 652, 653, and 654 in the Committee on Townships. Is there...and he asks for leave of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? Representative McMaster."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."
"Thomas, I withdraw that, I'm sorry."
"No, I don't mind, Jim. I just wish that you would come to me so that I would know what you're talking about. We have a number of Bills that have been turned over to our Committee. It had been my intent when I get the number of those Bills upon Monday to ask permission to have them posted."
"Take my request out of the record."
"If those are part of that, I will be certainly glad to do so, Jim, but I would wish you would talk to me about his first."
"Thank you. I apologize, and I ask that it be taken out of the record."
"The Gentleman withdraws that request. The Gentleman now asks that the appropriate...all of them?" 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day
"Yes, thank you."
June 5, 1981 "Representative Bullock, for what purpose, Sir?"
"Well, Mr. Speaker, would like to address the when you finish with this Bill I Body and make an appropriate Motion."
"For a Motion?"
"Yes, Sir."
"Well, we'll have to know the Motion before we recognize you for that. Representative Kulas." a
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, on a point of re...since we are taking requests, as you can see, I know that the real Speaker isn't here, but maybe he is within earshot. I have requst of the Speaker's office. As you can see, all of the mushrooms are starting to get fiesty, and ve would appreciate it if possible for next week, if the Speaker's office could somehow set up a tentative work schedule for next week so that the Members would know more or less how to plan and gear their time. And I, Mr. Speaker, as the Democratic Spokesman, would be willing to work with the Speaker's office on getting such a tentative schedule on the House floor by Monday."
"The Chair appreciates that very kind request and looks forward to your proposal on Monday Representative Bullock." morning.
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would like to... I would like to request leave to use the Attendance Roll Call to suspend the appropriate rule to have Senate Bills 118, 1138, and 1146 posted for hearing On Monday in the Judiciary Committee. I have spoken with the Chairman. I know of no opposition."
"Judiciary..."
"Mr. Leinenveber."
"...I or II?" 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE June 5, 1981 57th Legislative Day
"I guess that is Judiciary I."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rules so that Senate Bills 118, 1138, and 1146 may be heard in the next meeting of the Committee on Judiciary I. And the Gentleman asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave being granted, so ordered. Any further requests? There being none, the... Representative Bower."
"I wish to have the appropriate posting rule suspended to have Senate Bill 14 heard in the Health and Family Services Committee which has been reassigned from the Executive Committee."
"Senate Bill 14?"
"Yes."
"The Gentleman asks leave... Are we ready? The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule so that Senate Bill 14 may be heard at the next meeting of the Committee on Health and Family Services and asks leave for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Is there objection? Does the Gentleman have leave? Being no objection, leave is granted and so ordered. Any further requests? Any further requests, second time? Third time, any further requests? Representative Friedrich, for the purposes of an announcement."
"Mr. Speaker, there will be a Republican Conference in room 114 immediately after adjournment."
"A Republican Conference in room 114 immediately after adjournment. Representative Telcser for the purposes of a Motion."
"Mr. Speaker, could the Clerk please read the Adjournment Resolution?"
"Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution." 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 57th Legislative Day June 5, 1981
"Senate Joint Resolution 49, resolved by the Senate of the 82nd General Assembly, the State of Illinois, that the House of Representatives concurring herein, that when the Senate adjourns on Friday, June 5, 1981, it stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 9, 1981 at 12:00 noon, and when the House of Representatives adjourns on Friday, June 5, 1981, it stands adjourned until Monday, June 8, 1981 at 12:00 noon."
"Mr. Speaker, I offer to move the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution #49."
"You've heard the Motion. All those in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. The House..."
"Now, Mr. Speaker, I move that the House stand adjourned until Monday, June 8 at the hour of 12:00 noon."
"You've heard the Motion. Those in favor will signify by saying 'aye', those opposed. The 'ayes' have it. The House is adjourned until Monday, June 8 at 12:00 noon. Republican Conference immediately after adjournment in room 114. Representative Kulas, do you have a... Representative Kulas will meet over some.........over the weekend, and work out next week's schedule. Again for those who may not have heard the Adjournment Resolution, we return Monday, June 8 at noon, 12:00 noon." 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 05, 1981 HB-0224 MOTIONS PAGE 24 HB-1408 MOTIONS PAGE 23 HB-1455 MOTIONS PAGE 23 HB-1456 MOTIONS PAGE 23 HB-1573 MOTIONS PAGE 23 SB-0014 MOTIONS PAGE 29 SB-0053 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0118 MOTIONS PAGE 28 SB-0127 MOTIONS PAGE 14 SB-0173 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0181 2ND READING PAGE 17 SB-0186 MOTIONS PAGE 5 SB-0197 2ND READING PAGE 17 SB-0220 2ND READING PAGE 17 SB-0255 MOTIONS PAGE 15 SB-0270 MOTIONS PAGE 21 SB-0388 2ND READING PAGE 17 SB-0416 MOTIONS PAGE 7 SB-0429 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0462 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0484 2ND READING PAGE 18 SB-0491 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0524 2ND READING PAGE 18 SB-0544 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0581 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0591 MOTIONS PAGE 9 SB-0592 2ND READING PAGE 2 SB-0625 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-0631 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-0642 MOTIONS PAGE 20 SB-0646 MOTIONS PAGE 4 SB-0649 MOTIONS PAGE 26 SB-0652 MOTIONS PAGE 27 SB-0653 MOTIONS PAGE 27 SB-0654 MOTIONS PAGE 27 SB-0655 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-0689 2ND READING PAGE 16 SB-0697 MOTIONS PAGE 8 SB-0711 MOTIONS PAGE 7 SB-0721 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-0755 MOTIONS PAGE 7 MOTIONS PAGE 16 SB-0899 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-0900 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-0901 MOTIONS PAGE 24 SB-0914 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-0932 MOTIONS PAGE 27 SB-0953 MOTIONS PAGE 15 SB-0960 MOTIONS PAGE 5 SB-0968 MOTIONS PAGE 6 SB-1020 MOTIONS PAGE 7 SB-1029 2ND READING PAGE 18 SB-1030 MOTIONS PAGE 8 SB-1033 MOTIONS PAGE 24 SB-1055 MOTIONS PAGE 20 SB-1084 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-1095 MOTIONS PAGE 6 SB-1106 2ND READING PAGE 3 SB-1138 MOTIONS PAGE 28 SB-1146 MOTIONS PAGE 28 SB-1147 MOTIONS PAGE 5 SB-1190 MOTIONS PAGE 7 SB-1197 MOTIONS PAGE 24 SB-1198 MOTIONS PAGE 10 *HJR-0015 2ND READING PAGE 2 PAGE 1. STATE OF ILLINOIS 82ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 05, 1981 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER PETERS PAGE 1 PRAYER - FATHER TZORTZIS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - REPRESENTATIVE ZITO PAGE 1 EXCUSED ABSENCES PAGE 1 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 4 HR 351 - ADOPTION PAGE 11 HR 352 - ADOPTION PAGE 18 HR 353 - ADOPTION PAGE 18 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 21 SJR 49 - ADOPTION PAGE 30 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 30 PAGE 2