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Illinois House Floor Debate — February 23, 1983

83rd General Assembly (1983-1984) · Legislative day 12 · Regular Session
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Speaker Madigan

"The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. Unauthorized personnel shall leave the floor. We shall be led in prayer today by Father Daniel J. Collins, a Jesuit missionary and educator in Japan. Father Collins is a native of Decatur, Illinois and a guest of Representative John Dunn. Would the guests in the gallery please rise for the invocation? Father Collins."

Father Collins

"Almighty God, to Whom law is love and government is service, we ask You to teach us to love, to teach us to serve, to be prudent, to be honest, to be just and, above all, to respect each other with our differences, with our sameness, because we're all Your son and daughter. And we ask You to be with us especially today. Teach us to say the truth, to speak the truth. We ask all of this in great confidence, because we ask it in the Name of our Brother, Your Son, Jesus Christ. Amen."

Speaker Madigan

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

Ropp et al

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Madigan

"Roll Call for Attendance. Have all recorded themselves who wish to be recorded for purpose of the Attendance Roll Call? Have all recorded themselves who wish to be recorded for purpose of the Attendance Roll Call? The Clerk shall take the record. Ninety-nine Members responded as 'present'. There is a quorum. I asked two times if people wish to be recorded. Well, come to the well and tell the Clerk. Right. Introduction and 1 12th Legislative Da y STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 23, 1983 First Reading."

O'Brien

"Introduction and First Reading. House Bill 348, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Committee Reports."

O'Brien

"Representative Satterthwaite, Chairman from the Committee on Higher Education, to which the following Bill vas referred, action taken February 17, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass as amended House Bill 68."

Speaker Madigan

"For what purpose does Representative Friedrich seek recognition?"

Friedrich

"Mr. Speaker, I wanted to call your attention. We have a very distinguished Gentleman here near me, the man who was number one in the House and also Speaker who served, and I would like to suggest that we make him Speaker emeritus for the day."

Speaker Madigan

"Did you want to mention his name, Mr. Friedrich?"

Friedrich

"It's a household word, William Redmond."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you. Speaker Redmond, would you wish to come to the podium to address your former colleagues?"

Redmond

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, it's certainly a joy to be here. It seems to me that there's a lot of people absent though. When I was here I think we had better attendance. We used to always have 177 people. I know that you don't have anything to do until - what? Is it April the 24th or something like that? So, good luck to everybody. Everybody vote for the income tax. Everybody vote for the gas tax. I know that my Representative, Representative Daniels, is just itching to get in there and get all those taxes right. That's the program that he ran on, and I'm sure that he's going to live up to his 2 12th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE promises. Thank you very much."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Daniels." February 23, 1983

Representative Daniels

Representative Daniels: "Well, of course it's a pleasure to see my constituent here today talking to all of us. But, Speaker Redmond, I just want you to know that I'm very anxious to work with the new Mayor of the City of Chicago, Bernie Epton, as soon as possible."

Speaker Madigan

"Is there anyone who wishes to bring any business before the Body? On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, there appears House Bill 86. The Clerk shall read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 86, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Township Law. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. Is there anyone who wishes to bring any business before the Body? For what purpose does Mr. Vinson seek recognition?"

Vinson

"Mr. Speaker, I have a Motion with the Clerk in regard to House Resolution 55, and I would like to have that Motion read and speak in connection with it."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, do we have a Resolution filed by Mr. Vinson? House Resolution 55?"

O'Brien

"Yes, the Resolution is filed."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, read the Resolution. Would the Members please give their attention to a Resolution which has been introduced by Representative Vinson? Mr. Vinson plans to move for immediate consideration of this Resolution. Mr. Clerk."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 55, by Representative Vinson. Whereas, the voters of Chicago went to the polls on 3 12th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 23, 1983 Tuesday, February 22 in a major primary election; and, whereas, at stake in the primary were the Party nominations for both citywide and aldermanic offices; and, whereas, serious allegations have been raised to the effect that rapid transit vehicles of the Chicago Transit Authority evidenced long delays, sometimes ranging into hours, in the latter part of the day; and, whereas, these alleged CTA delays affected primarily the south side of the City of Chicago whose population is substantially Black; and, whereas, the delays of the rapid transit vehicles may have caused substantial numbers of Black registered voters to lose their right of franchise not only in the citywide elections, but also in choosing their own alderman; and, whereas, this House strongly supports the right of all duly registered voters to cast their ballots in the manner of their choice and their right to expect public transit carriers to furnish the transportation they require to vote in their neighborhood polling place; and now, therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 82nd (sic - 83rd) General Assembly of the State of Illinois that we direct the Legislative Investigating Commission to undertake an immediate investigation of the charges alleging delays of CTA rapid transit vehicles to the south side of Chicago on primary election day and to report its findings to the General Assembly no later than April 1, 1983."

Speaker Madigan

"The Clerk having read the Resolution, Mr. Vinson wishes to offer a Motion. Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The allegations made are that the CTA willfully delayed the availability of transit vehicles to a particular part of the City late in the afternoon so that people who resided in that part of the City would find it 4 12th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 23, 1983 impossible to get home early enough to vote. Mr. Speaker, the CTA is a publicly-funded agency. Some people want to provide additional assistance for that publicly-funded agency. That agency..."

Speaker Madigan

"Would the Membership please give their attention to Mr. Vinson? I presume that Mr. Vinson has something very significant to offer to this Body. So, would the Membership please give their attention to Mr. Vinson?"

Vinson

"That agency, the CTA, Mr. Speaker, if it is to be funded, should be funded for public purpose, not for any private purpose, and certainly not for any discriminatory purpose, as the allegation suggested it may have been yesterday. The popular franchise is the keystone of popular government in this country, Mr. Speaker, and it ought be the keystone of popular government in the City, the City of Chicago. Mr. Speaker, I believe the Legislature has a right to know whether those allegations have any truth and fact. It has a right to know, because it has a duty to protect the people of this state and the people of the City of Chicago against discriminatory purposes. And it has a right to know, Mr. Speaker, because we ought not spend tax money for discriminatory purposes. Mr. Speaker, we have a duty to prohibit discrimination in public services, and we certainly have a duty to preserve the popular franchise. For those reasons, I would urge that there's nothing more important at this stage than to insure that the nature of these allegations and to find out whether or not they're true. The simple fact that an election is over does not mean that this issue is over. The right to vote is our most precious right; and, for that reason, I would move for immediate consideration of House Resolution 55, Mr. Speaker." 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman has moved to suspend the rules to provide for the immediate consideration of House Resolution 55. On the Notion, the Chair recognizes Mr. Greiman."

Greiman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I suppose that the results probably wouldn't be different had the trains arrived, but I can understand if you live in Clinton, Illinois, not quite understanding how large urban areas are, how metropolitan transit systems operate or even fail to operate, as a matter of fact, Representative; because, this Body doesn't vote us the appropriate amount levels of funding for Chicago transit authorities. But be that as it may, we are seeing a continuation of what we saw last week here; that Mr. Vinson and the people on his side want to politicize this House and want to bring the Chicago election down to this Body. The Speaker of the House of Representatives had a position, I suppose, in the last election that was finished yesterday; but, when he came to a point - Committees, and leaders, and everything else and make his Commission appointments, he left his politics back in Chicago. But Mr. Vinson wants to everyday, or Mr. Davis or whoever wants to each day bring to us Chicago politics in this Body. We have important things in this state to be concerned with. We also have a process, however, that we deal with. It is a process of giving good Committee consideration. Now, you may think a lot of the Legislative Investigating Commission. One of my hometown residents is the Chairman of that Commission, Representative Jaffe, and I respect him a lot. But I think that the FBI who is involved in... in looking at that, the Department of Justice, the Marshals of the Department of Justice, the State's Attorney of Cook County. He has a mild interest in it. I think all those folks are perfectly able to handle this without some 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 emergency. Now, there is another problem here. If we send investigators from the Investigating Commission and they give somebody immunity, I wonder if that applies. That may very well provide immunity for people, because they're a state agency. And they may indeed be able to provide immunity to people who would otherwise be indictable. So, as a matter of fact, the Illinois Investigating Commission may be a dangerous person to send in at this point. But, nevertheless, Mr. Vinson is perfectly willing to politicize this Body with the Chicago election. I think we should just take this Resolution and treat it like ve treat all the Resolutions. Send it to the Committee on Assignment. Send it to Committee, and it will get a fair and impartial hearing in that Committee, whichever Committee it's assigned to. That's our process. There is no need to be concerned with any speed here. If there are indictments to be coming, they'll come forth. The Statute of Limitations is a long time. Let's just treat this like it vas any other measure. If there's substance to it, we'll get to the substance. In the meantime, come on up and ride the buses, Sam, anytime you want to, and I'm going to vote 'no' on this and I hope all other Representatives will join me."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I'm going to support this Motion maybe for another reason. I think there's a possibility that these allegations have been exaggerated and possibly could not be true, but I think ve have a credibility gap all through the country. And people have mistrust in government, and certainly, if these allegations are unfounded, it's just as important to bring that out as is the fact that they're well founded. I think it's timely Dow that this be looked into, and I think we ought to support this Resolution." 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McPike."

McPike

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Many of us were surprised last week when an attempt was made to bring Chicago politics onto the House floor, and we thought that maybe it would pass. Again, this morning we come here and find out that we want to bring Chicago politics onto the House floor in Springfield. What is so surprising is that it seems to be the downstate Republicans that are interested in spending state money to continually investigate local elections in Chicago. I didn't see Sam Vinson introduce a Resolution to investigate anything in the City of Springfield, or in Madison County or in DeWitt. In fact, I haven't seen talk about anything that goes on downstate, but he is constantly interested in what goes on in the City of Chicago. It would surprise, I think, the people in his district that he is so overly concerned with everything that goes on in the City of Chicago. In fact, he probably is the number one abater when it comes to talking against everything that happens in the City of Chicago, and he gives political motives to every possible thing that you could imagine happening in Chicago. Now he somehow wants us to believe that we should immediately stop everything in Springfield. We should immediately bring State Government to a halt. We should declare an emergency. We should send all our investigators to Chicago and find out why the bus drivers have suddenly stopped going to the different areas of Chicago and how the bus drivers somehow are in collusion to fix the recent election. This is probably the most ridiculous Resolution that we've had so far this year. We would hope that we could move along with this legislative Session without bringing in politics into every single piece of action on the House floor; but, obviously Representative Vinson is 8 12th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 23, 1983 not going to allow us to do it. I would suggest that we handle this Resolution the same way we do all other Resolutions, that we move along with the business of the House and that Representative Vinson pay more attention to it... to those issues that affect his district and that affect the entire State of Illinois without constantly involving himself in the Democratic primary in the state... in the City of Chicago."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Giorgi."

Giorgi

"Mr. Speaker, it seems like the Leadership on the other side of the aisle are going to be nitpicking all Session of this General Assembly. You can tell by the quality of the Resolutions they've been introducing up till now. I think the height of hypocrisy is for a Legislator from downstate Illinois who leads the chorus constantly, hates Chicago, defeat Chicago, scuttle any of Chicago's Bills. Where was he at when we needed money for mass transit for the Chicagoland area? Where was he when we needed money for the west side of Chicago? How does he vote on civil rights legislation? I think his voting record ought to be given to the Illinois Legislative Investigating Commission to see the authenticity of this Resolution. This is an insult to our intelligence. If you guys aren't going to get above the cut that you are now, we're going to have a very dismal Session. I'm not... I'm tired here of listening to you guys trying out your Dale Carnegie courses. Now, come in with some substance. Come in with some good stuff. This isn't worth the paper it's printed on. And, furthermore, everyone's disenfranchised in Chicago when the CTA and the RTA can't make it. Give them some support. Where were you when the Governor wanted some support on his mass transit Bills? You were hiding in Lincoln, Illinois. Get with it. This is terrible." 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson to close."

Vinson

February 23, 1983 "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think if the previous speaker will examine the record, he will discover that I sponsored the Governor's program for mass transit in Chicago in the last General Assembly. I think, if the previous speaker examines my voting record on civil rights, he'll find I've not voted against any civil rights legislation in this House, and I personally resent those charges. Mr. Speaker, there are Members in this chamber who have advocated, and I might say powerful Members, who have advocated..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr... Mr. Vinson. Mr. Vinson. Let me get the attention of the Body, because I know you have something very significant to say. So, would the Body give their attention to the significant utterances of Mr. Vinson? Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would be nice to restore some order in this chamber. I appreciate your efforts to do that. There are powerful Members in this chamber who have advocated increased funding for the CTA. Now, I might be one of the cooperative Members in that, Mr. Speaker, in going along with that idea, as my record demonstrates in the past, but I think we have a right to know that that money is not going to be spent for the discriminatory purposes of a particular faction that dominates the City of Chicago. I think we have the right to know that that money is being spent for a legitimate public purpose, not to defy the right of some members... some citizens of the City of Chicago to cast their vote, to have the opportunity to go to the polling places and to exercise their precious right of popular franchise. I can't understand how any Member of this chamber can say that there's anything more important, anything more important than the violation of a citizen's right to vote, and that's what may have occurred yesterday 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 with the use of public money. Now, I would suggest that Mr. Greiman, Mr. Giorgi and Mr. McPike ought to have an obligation to investigate that as indeed we all do. I think we have to find out whether public money was spent for a very private purpose and a very unlawful purpose, and I cannot understand why anyone would not want to do that, particularly when we're in a Session where people are asking for increased funding for that same agency which may well have used its existing public funding to violate individual voters' right to vote in a most important election. I would urge adoption of the Motion."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Vinson has moved for the immediate consideration of House Resolution 55 without reference to Committee. All those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 42 'ayes', 58 'nos', 2 voting 'present'. The Motion fails. House Resolution 55 shall be referred to the Committee on Assignments. Is there anyone else who wishes to bring any business before this Body? Mr. Mautino."

Mautino

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask leave of the House and leave of the appropriate rule so that the Select Committee on Small Business may hold their scheduled meeting at Triton College in River Grove; and, to that end, we must have posting for the legislation that will be appearing before us. When the posting was sent upstairs, it was one day late. I checked and got the authorization from... or agreement from Minority Leader Daniels and the Spokesman on the Committee as well, Dave Woodward, and I ask for leave."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Mautino requests leave of the Body to suspend the posting requirements to permit certain 11 12th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 23, 1983 legislation to be heard in the Select Committee on Small Business. Is there leave? Leave is granted. Mr. Giglio."

Giglio

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Cities and Villages meeting was suppose to be heard today at 2:00. The Sponsor of the Bill, House Bill 21, is not ready; therefore, that's the only Bill in the Committee. The Committee on Cities and Villages is cancelled this afternoon. No Committee meeting today."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you, Mr. Giglio. Mr. Mulcahey, for the purpose of an announcement. Mr. Mulcahey."

Mulcahey

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The Elementary and Secondary Education Committee which was scheduled to meet tomorrow morning at 8:00 until 12:00 - that's been cancelled. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to point out one thing right now; that each one of the Members of the House, in the next day or so, will be receiving a memo from my office. We only have about nine meetings in that four hour Committee between now and the deadline. I'd like to point out to the Membership right now, and I've talked with Miss Nelson about this, that the Committee is going to meet for exactly four hours on Wednesday morning. We're going to start at 8:00, and we're going to go till noon. And we're going to go up until the 15th of April. And I'd also like to point out that... that we are not going to come back in after Session, which has been the custom of the past. Any Bills that are not heard by the deadline, the gavel is going to fall and those Bills will go by the wayside. So, I suggest that everybody post their Bills and start showing up for Committee. This is the third week in a row that we haven't heard any Bills."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you, Mr. Mulcahey. The Chair would like to advise all Members that Mr. Mulcahey's remarks are well taken. The time is already running for the consideration 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 of legislation. We will adhere strictly to the deadlines which have been established. So, if you wish your legislation to be considered in a calm, orderly and deliberative manner, you should move for the quick consideration of that legislation in Committee. Mr. Hallock, do you seek recognition?"

Hallock

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Two excused absences on our side. Representative Topinka and Representative Klemm."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Topinka looks well... present."

Hallock

"She is here. Representative Klemm."

Speaker Madigan

"Cline?"

Hallock

"Klemm. Dick Klemm."

Speaker Madigan

"Klemm. Yes. So, would the record show that Representative Klemm is excused? Mr. Greiman, do you have any excused absences?"

Greiman

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would wish the record to show that Representatives Andrew McGann, John Vitek, James Keane and Steven Nash are absent due to illness or personal matters."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Greiman, are there any Washington supporters absent today?"

Greiman

"They all seem to be in their place at this point. Representative Henry is also absent due to illness."

Speaker Madigan

"Right. So, would the record show that those Representatives are excused? Mr. White. Representative White."

White

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Human Services Committee which was scheduled at 4:00 today is cancelled."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you, Mr. White. Mr. Johnson. Okay. Representative Oblinger."

Oblinger

"Mr... Mr. Speaker, the Committee on Aging was meeting in room 114. The Chairman, Representative Christensen, recessed us until immediately after adjournment. He said 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 we'd be back in the same room, and I seen Transportation's suppose to meet there at 2:00. Shere are we going to meet?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, Representative Oblinger has asked where the Select Committee on Aging will be meeting this afternoon. Would you respond to her question? And, in the meantime, would the... the chair recognize Mr. Christensen."

Christensen

"We are going to meet in the same room and meet until 2:00."

Speaker Madigan

"Alright. So, the Chairman has responded that the Committee will meet immediately after adjournment and will meet until 2:00. Mr. Matijevich."

Matijevich

"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, in the adoption of the House rule... permanent rules, we had an oversight in the deadline for consideration of Bills on Third Reading, in that we were supposed to have the same deadline for all House Bills and not a separate deadline for House appropriation Bills. We have discussed this matter with the Minority Leader, and I would now... and the deadline for all House Bills, by the way, would be... on Third Reading would be the fourth Friday in May. I would now move for the suspension of the rules for the immediate consideration of House Resolution 60 and the adoption of that Resolution. Could I have..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Matijevich has moved for the immediate consideration of House Resolution 60 which is technical in nature and which the Chair has been told is agreed to by the Minority Leader. All those in favor of the Motion for immediate consideration will signify by voting aye", all those opposed by voting "no". This is a Motion for immediate consideration of House Resolution 60 which is an Amendment to the rules. Have all voted who wish? The 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 92 'ayes', no 'nos', no voting 'present'. The Gentleman's Motion for immediate consideration carries. Mr. Matijevich on the Resolution."

Matijevich

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I move to adopt House Resolution 60 which, as you said, was technical in that the deadline for all House Bills will be the fourth Friday in May. I move for the adoption."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Matijevich moves for the adoption of House Resolution 60 on Amendments of the rules, technical in nature. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 99 'ayes', no voting 'no'. The Resolution is adopted. Is there any further business to come before the House? Agreed Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 53, Mautino. House Resolution 56, McMaster; 57, Davis; 58, Currie - White - Rhem - Pouncey - Brookins; and 59, Matijevich - et al."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Giorgi."

Giorgi

"Mr. Speaker, Representative Mautino's Resolution asks the Governor to 'Put Our Hearts in Art' proclamation week. 56, by McMaster, notes a 50th Wedding Anniversary. 57, by Davis, tells of an intern service. 58, by Currie, logs Women's History Week. And 59, by Matijevich, heralds Illinois Nurses' Week, and I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Gentleman's Motion carries. The Agreed Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 54, Christensen - et al." 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 23, 1983 12th Legislative Day

Speaker Madigan

"Committee on Assignment. If the Chair could have the attention of the Body? There was a parliamentary inquiry addressed to the Chair that sometime last week... The inquiry was made to the Chair by Representative Johnson and it concerned the question of... If the Members could give the Chair their attention? If the Member could give the Chair their attention? Mr. McPike, could you discontinue your conversation? Would all of those who are huddled around the rear of the chamber, Mr. Ronan and Mr. Giglio, could we have your attention for just one minute? There was a parliamentary inquiry last week from Representative Johnson concerning the ability of a Member's vote to be recorded on a Bill in Committee while that Member was not present in the Committee room. We have responded to Mr. Johnson, but I would like to read into the record the response which has been given to Mr. Johnson. And that response is simply this. Rule 26 (h) of the permanent rules of the House of Representatives states 'no Member of a Committee may vote except in person at the time of the call of the vote'. This procedure is to be strictly followed. Any procedural guideline which is not in accordance with Rule 26 (h) is invalid. So, Mr. Johnson, your point was well taken, and thank you for raising that point. If there is no further business, we are prepared to adjourn. Mr. McPike moves that the House stand adjourned ... For what purpose does Mr. Van Duyne seek recognition?"

Van Duyne

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I realize I'm a little bit late, but I'd like to pursue that just a little bit further if... if you would allow me. Heretofore in our Committee hearings we have allowed, with leave of the Committee, without anyone... anyone objecting, that if another Member of the Committee has been called to another Committee meeting where his Bill may be being heard - in other words 16 12th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE February 23, 1983 where he's trying to be in two places at the same time against his will or against any... any amount of his own discretion he has requested of the Committee that he be allowed, with unanimous leave of the Committee, to cast a vote in favor of against a certain Bill, Оп... the one specified Bill. And I just want it make it very clear that you are saying now that we are not going to be allowed to do that."

Speaker Madigan

"No, I am not saying that. The rules are saying that. I am reading the Parliamentarian's interpretation of the rules..."

Van Duyne

"Well, okay. Thèn maybe I'd better ask a parliamentary inquiry myself. Do... Does a unanimous lea ve of a Committee or a unanimous vote by a Committee, in Committee, supercede the standing rules of the House?"

Speaker Hadigan

"No."

Van Duyne

"Thank you. I hope everyone...

Speaker Nadigan

"Thank you."

Van Duyne

"I hope everyone on the Environment, Energy and Natural Resources Committee heard that." Speaker Hadigan: 工 sure they did. Thank you, Mr. Van Duyne. Is there any further business to Come before the House? Mr. McPike moves that the House stand adjourned until Thursday, February 24 at 1:00 p.m. Mr. McPike so moves and further provides that the House shall stay open in Perfunctory Session today until 2:00 p.m. to permit the introduction of Bills. On that Motion, all those in favor signfy by saying 'aye", all those opposed "no". We stand adjourned until tomorrow at 1:00 p.."

O'Brien

"Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House Bill 349, O'Connell Giglio Laurino, a Bill for an Act to permit officers and full-time employees of corporations to represent such corporations in Small Claims Court. 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 350, Rea et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 351, Mulcahey, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 352, Mulcahey, a Bill for an Act concerning township and road district employees. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 353, Birkinbine, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain public utility taxes and changes in enterprise zones. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 354, Mautino Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 355, Rea et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 356, Hannig Rea DiPrima Richmond Mautino, a Bill for an Act to exempt resident disabled veterans from admission in camping fees in parks under the jurisdiction of the Department of Conservation. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 357, McMaster, a Bill for an Act to create the Conservative Tillage Risks Share Program. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 358, Birkinbine, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Enterprise Zone Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 359, Younge, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 360, Rea Hicks, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the River Conservancy District Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 361, Younge, a Bill for an Act to give preference to certain bidders for medical service contracts and to amend certain Acts herein named. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 362, Younge, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 363, Younge, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 concerning public utilities. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 364, Younge, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Employee Ownership Assistance Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 365, Mrs. Younge, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois Department of Urban Development and amending an Act herein named. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 366, Terzich, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Introduction and First Reading of Constitutional Amendments. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #6, introduced by Representative Terzich, Capparelli and Greiman. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 9 of Article IV of the Constitution to read as follows: Article IV, Section 9 - Veto Procedure. (a) Every Bill passed by the General Assembly shall be presented to the Governor within 30 calendar days after its passage. The foregoing requirement shall be judicially enforceable. If the Governor approves the Bill, he shall sign it and it shall become law. (b) If the Governor does not approve the Bill, he shall veto it by returning it with his objections to the House in which it originated. Any Bill not so returned by the Governor within 60 calendar days after it is presented to him shall become law. If recess or adjournment of the General Assembly prevents the return of the Bill, the Bill and the Governor's objections shall be filed with the Secretary of State within such 60 calendar days. The Secretary of State shall return the Bill and objections to the originating 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 House promptly upon the next meeting of the same General Assembly at which the Bill will be considered. (c) The House to which a Bill is returned shall immediately enter the Governor's objections upon its Journal. If within 15 calendar days after such entry the House by a record vote of three-fifths of the Members elected pass the Bill, it shall be delivered immediately to the second House. If within 50 calen... 15 calendar days after such delivery the second House by a record vote of three-fifths of the Members elected pass the Bill, it shall become law. (d) The Governor may reduce or veto any item of appropriation in a Bill presented to him. Portions of a Bill not reduced or vetoed shall become law. An item vetoed shall be returned to the House in which it originated and may become law in the same manner as a vetoed Bill. An item reduced in amount shall be returned to the House in which it originated and may be restored to it original amount in the same manner as a vetoed Bill except that the required record vote shall be a majority of the Members elected to each House. If a reduced item is not so restored, it shall become law in the reduced amount. (e) The Governor may return a Bill together with specific recommendations for change to the House in which it originated. The Bill shall be considered in the same manner as a vetoed Bill, but the specific recommendations may be accepted by a record vote of a majority of the Members elected to each House. Such Bill shall be presented again to the Governor and if he certifies, within 20 days of its receipt by the Governor, that such acceptance conforms to his specific recommendations, the Bill shall become law. If he does not so certify, he shall return it as a vetoed Bill, within 20 days of its receipt by the Governor, to the House in which it originated. Schedule: This Amendment shall take effect 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 12th Legislative Day February 23, 1983 beginning with the General Assembly next convened after the adoption by the electors. First Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. Further Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 367, Brummer, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act concerning public utilities. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 368, by Representative Brummer, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act concerning public utilities. First Reading of the Bill. No further business. The House now stands adjourned." 21 03/01/83 16:19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX FEBRUARY 23, 1983 PAGE 1 HB-0086 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-0348 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-0349 FIRST READING PAGE 17 HB-0350 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0351 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0352 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0353 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0354 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0355 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0356 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0357 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0358 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0359 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0360 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0361 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0362 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0363 FIRST READING PAGE 18 HB-0364 FIRST READING PAGE 19 HB-0365 FIRST READING PAGE 19 HB-0366 FIRST READING PAGE 19 HB-0367 FIRST READING PAGE 21 HB-0368 FIRST READING PAGE 21 HR-0055 MOTION PAGE 4 HR-0055 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 3 HR-0060 MOTION PAGE 14 HR-0060 ADOPTED PAGE 15 *HJR-0006 FIRST READING PAGE 19 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MADIGAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - FATHER DANIEL J. COLLINS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 COMMITTEE REPORT PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 15 GENERAL RESOLUTION PAGE 15 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 17 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 17 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 21