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Illinois House Floor Debate — April 13, 1983

83rd General Assembly (1983-1984) · Legislative day 29 · Regular Session
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83rd (1983-1984)
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April 13, 1983
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Speaker Madigan

"The House shall come to order. The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. All unauthorized personnel shall leave the floor. Mr. Carey. We shall be led in prayer today by the Reverend Paul Flesner, the Pastor the Grace Lutheran Church of Springfield. Reverend Flesner is a guest of Representative Michael Curran. Will the guests in the gallery please rise and join us in the invocation?"

Reverend Flesner

"Let us bow our heads in prayer. Gracious Heavenly Father, we acknowledge You as the creator of all of life and of all of the universe. We stand in awe at the mystery, and the majesty and the wonder of the gift You have given us. In so doing, it humbles us. And in that spirit of humility, we know that we must ask Your guidance as we attempt to live the gift of life, to use it to its fullest and to its best. Be with us this day with Your guiding spirit that we may discern that which treats and respects Your creation. We pray in Your name. Amen."

Speaker Madigan

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

Ropp

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Curran. Roll Call for Attendance. Have all recorded themselves who wish to be recorded? The Clerk shall take the record. Mr. Vinson, are there any excused absences? The Gentleman responds negatively. Mr. Greiman, are there any excused absences?"

Greiman

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Would the record show that Representatives Henry, Nash, Vitek and Huff should be excused by reason of illness?"

Speaker Madigan

"Let the record show that those Representatives 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 835D GENERAL ASSEMBIY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 are excused. Mr...Mr. Clerk, there being 101 Members responding to the Roll Call, there is a qucrum present. Introduction and First Reading."

O'Brien

"Introduction and First Feading of Bills. House Bill 1199, Vitek, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Horse Racing Bureau. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1200, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act relating to Circuit and Associate Judges. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1201, McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the County Auditing Las. First Feading of the Fill. House Bill 1102 (sic 1202), McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Township Law. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1203, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1104 (sic 1204), Yourell Clson, a Bill for an Act to amend Sectins of the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1105 (sic 1205), Yourell Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1106 (sic 1206), Nash Taylor, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Beading of the Bill. House Bill 1107, Ycurell... that's icuse Bill 1207, Yourell, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1208, C'Connell McCracken, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Anti-Trust Act. First Beading of the Fill. House Bill 1209, Leflore, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the Pension Ccde. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1210, LeFlore, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections cf the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1211, LeFlore, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Beading of the Eill."

Speaker Madigan

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the House of 2 STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEPATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 Representatives, could I have your attention fcr a few moments, please. If I could have your attention for a few moments. Mr. Greiman and Mr. McPike, if I could have your attention. Today We are honored to have as our special guests Mr. Pat Naples' and Mr. Sam 'Rita', Trustees of the Triton Junior College and the Triton College Trojans Wrestling Team. If I could have your attention, Mr. Levin. Mr. Levin, could I have your attention? The Ircjans, under the direction of Head Coach Art Kraft and Assistant Coach Jim Maraviglia, recently won the national junior college wrestling championship held in Worthington, Minnesota. We have a Resolution commemorating their victory. Mr. Clerk, please read the Resclution."

O'Brien

"House Resolution 142, offered by Representatives Doyle and Leverenz. Whereas, on Saturday, March 5, 1983 at Washington (sic Worthington) Junior College in Worthington, Minnesota, the Triton College Ircjans, under the guidance of Head Coach Art Kraft and Assistant Coach Jim Marvi...captured the national junior college wrestling title for the second time in six years; and whereas, the Trojans who went into the championship touts as the nation's top-ranking team, earned a tear point total of 109 3/4 at the tournament the second highest point total in the tournament's history and outstand...and outdistanced the second place team from Phoenix, Arizona by 43 points; and whereas, the Ircjans' championship performance at the tournament was highlighted by the individual nation titles earned by 167-pound Reggie Wilson and 190-pound Carl Davis, and the exploits of the Trojans' other five All Americans heavyweight Dave Besser, 177-pound Fred Wilson, 134-pound Russel Jackson, 126-pound Joe Jchnson and 118-pcund Jay Gegenheimer none of whom finished lower than eighth in their respective weight classes; and whereas, the 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HC HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 outstanding performance which have been turned in oνει the years by the Trojan wrestlers, who last year finished fifth in the national tournament, are whclly deserving of the recognition of the people of this state. Therefore, be it resolved by the House cf Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illincis, that this House congratulates the Trojan...or Triton College Ircjans on their latest championship season and express the admiration for the dedication, effort and spirit of teamwork which the national title represents. And be it further resclved that a suitable copy of this Freamble and Resolution shall be presented to the Triton College Trojans as a formal token of our congratulations and pride in the extrere ranner in which they have perpetuated Illinois tradition of athletic excellence."

Speaker Madigan

"The Chair recognizes Representative Dcyle. Representative Doyle was responsible fct inviting the team to Springfield today for this honor, and I'd like to give him the opportunity to make a few comments. Mr. Doyle."

Doyle

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, ladies and Gentlemen of the House. On behalf of the Triton College wrestlers, we in the House would like to congratulate you for a tremendous job well done. And just so the Members of the Rouse know it, these Gentlemen are going to stay here today. I have a ccuple Bills that I'm going to pass, SC these Gentlemen will be my moral support. But seriously, these young men exemplified what all cur good, young people in the State of Illinois stand up for and what we can be counted for. And I think it's a great honor, not only for our district, but for the entire state, and let's welcome the boys here today. If I may, Coach Kraft, would you please come up? We have certificates of the Fesolution that was approved unanimously by the whole House. We also have with us today 4 STATE OF ILIINGIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEFATE 29th legislative Day Mr. Fat 'Naples, Chairman of the Board. will you say a few words, please?" April 13, 1983 Mr. Naples', "Naples': "Distinctive Members of the chamber, thank you very much for allowing this fantastic team tc appear before you. We thank you very much for this hencr, and the State of Illinois is honored as well by their presence. Also, I would like to thank you for your support for the community college system throughout cur state, and thank you alsc for your support of Triton College. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"We also have with us Senator Zito. Would you like to address the Body, Mr. Zito?"

Zito

"I an...I represent Triton College. my district. College, and colleagues." Triton College is in I'd like to add my congratulations to Triton thanks for letting me in the chamber, fellow

Speaker Madigan

"He said he's happy to te back. The Speaker would like to cffer his congratulations to the team, the coaches, the school and the local representatives. Congratulations, and thank you for joining us today. Thank you very much. Mr. Clerk, if you'd return to the Order of Introduction and First Reading."

O'Brien

"Introduction and First Reading of Fills. House Bill 1212, leverenz, a Fill for an Act making appropriation fcr removal of material from retention basins in the DesFlaines area of Cock County. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1213, Wolf McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Vehicle (cde. First Beading of the Bill. House Bill 1214, Madigan Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriation for the furnishing of legislative staff. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1215, Madigan Caniels, a Bill for an Act to prcvide fcr the ordinary and contingent expense of the General Assembly. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1216, 5 29th Legislative Day STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Pill. House Bill 1217, Yourell Olson Terzich and Topinka, a Eill for an Act making certain substantive and technical changes in the Election Code. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1218, Yourell Olson Terzich and Icpinka, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Flection Code. First Reading cf the Bill. House Bill 1219, Yourell 01son Terzich and Topinka, a Bill for an Act making substantive and technical changes to the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1220, Yourell 01scn Terzich and Topinka, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1221, Tate, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Purchasing Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1222, Matijevich and McAuliffe, a Bill fcr an Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1223, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1224, Representative Wait, a Fill fcr an Act to amend the Toll Highway Authcrity Act. First Feading of the Bill. Further introductions. House Eill 1225, Yourell, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1226, Birkinbine, a Bill for an Act in relation to the depcsit cf certain funds. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1227, McPike Ewing, a Bill for an Act to arend the Use Tax Act. First Reading of the Fill. House Fill 1228, Bowman Madigan and Curran, a Bill for an Act concerning services fcr the blind and deaf. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1229, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unemployment Insurance Act. First Feading of the Fill. House Bill 1230, leverenz, a Eill for an Act 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION DEEATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 to amend the motor carrier safety regulations of the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1231, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1232, Bowman - Madigan - Laurinc - Nash and Oblinger, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1233, by Representative Wait, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1234, Stuffle - Woodyard, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1235, Representative Satterthwaite, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Universities' Article of the Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1236, by Representative Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"...Recognizes Mr. Matijevich. Mr. Matijevich."

Matijevich

"Mr. Speaker, I am the Principal Sponsor of House Resolution 127. I ask leave to table that Resolution. We no longer have need for it. I commend the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. They've done what we wanted them to do."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Matijevich, the Principal Sponsor of House Resolution 127, requests leave to table that Resolution. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Resolution is tabled. On the Order of the Calendar...on page five of the Calendar, we shall begin, excuse me, we will begin on page four of the Calendar on the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now prepared to begin on the Calendar on the Order of Second Reading. If you could give your attention to the Calendar and to those Bills called. On page four, House 7 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ April 13, 1983 Bill 465. Mr. Winchester, do you wish to call ycur Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Fill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 465, a Bill for ar Act to add Sections to the Agriculture Fair Act. Second Reading of the Fill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"None."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. House Fill 499. Mr. Keane, do you wish to call ycur Bill? Is Mr. Keane in the chamber? House Bill 504. Mr. Friedrich, do you wish to call your Fill? House Bill 504. Mr. Friedrich...Mr. Cronson, could you permit Mr. Friedrich to give his attention tc his Bill on the Calendar? House Bill 504, Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"It's Mr. Cronson's Bill. That's the reason I was conferring with him, Mr. Speaker. Give me just a second, will you?"

Speaker Madigan

"Sc, what is the joint judgment? Tc call the Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Pill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 504, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Purchasing Act. Second Reading cf the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"None."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. House Bill 504. Mr. Friedrich, do you wish to call the Bill? 504. Excuse me. The record should be corrected. 504 has been placed on the Order of Third Reading. House Pill 506. MI. Friedrich, dc you wish to call that Bill? Mr. Friedrich. Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"Please hold it."

Speaker Madigan

"The Bill shall be held on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 522. Mr. Hawkinson, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Hawkinscr, do you wish to call your Fill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 Bill. House Bill 718. Mr. Tuerk, do you wish to call your Bill? 718, Mr. Tuerk. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 718, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"None."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. House Bill 787, Representative Braun. Is Representative Braun in the chamber? House Bill 793, Representative Alexander. Is Representative Alexander in the chamber? Mr. Keane, House Bill 499 on the Order of Second Reading Short Debate Calendar. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 499, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois State Auditing Act and the Regional Transportation Authority Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading on page five of the Calendar, House Bill 56. Mr. Bowman, do you wish to call your Bill? Is Mr. Bowman in the chamber? Do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman wishes to address the Body. Mr. Bowman."

Bowman

"Thank you very much. Yes, I'd like to have this Bill moved to Third Reading. Let's go with it."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 56, a Bill for an Act in relation to assistance for temporary emergency housing. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Motions?" 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION LEEATE April 13, 1983 29th legislative Day

Clerk G'Brien

"No Motions filed."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Nadigan

"Third Reading. House Pill 195, Mr. Laurino. Is Mr. Laurino in the chamber? House Bill 244. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal ncte has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 275. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal ncte has nct yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. chamber? House Bill 276, Mr. Levin. Is Mr. Levin in the The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 277, Mr. Levin. House Bill 280. Mr. Levin indicates he does not wish to call House Bills 276, 277 and 280. House Bill 295, Representative Satterthwaite. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." Clerk O'Brien: a Fill fcr an Act to amend Second Reading of "House Bill 295, Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Motions?"

O'Brien

"No Motions filed.."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"ECI recognition?" what purpose does I I Mr. Cullerton seek hao requested a fiscal

Cullerton

"Mr. Speaker, believe note...a revised pension impact note after it was amended, and I wondered if that was filed."

Speaker Madigan

"I believe the Calendar indicates that such a note has been filed. Mr. Clerk, ycu may recall there was a question relative to the adequacy of the pension impact note after the Amendment to the Bill. I believe the Parliamentarian ruled that there would be a need for a 10 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 revised fiscal note; therefore, has the revised fiscal note been filed? Representative Satterthwaite. Representative Satterthwaite."

Satterthwaite

"Mr. Speaker, to my knowledge, the amended Bill has not has the appropriate fiscal note filed, unless the Clerk has that, and I have not seen it."

Speaker Madigan

"The Clerk's record seer tc indicate that the revised fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 300. Mr. Berrios, do you wish to call your Fill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 336. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Eill 394. Мг. Leverenz, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Pill. House Bill 403. Mr. Greiman, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 454. The Calendar...Mr. Vinson. Is Mr. Vinson in the chamber? Mr. Webb, the Calendar indicates that the fiscal note has not yet been filed, but the Clerk has now infcrred me that it has teen filed relative to this Bill. It's on page five of the Calendar at the very bottcm of the page. Sc, Mr. Clerk, read the Fill."

O'Brien

"House Eill 454..."

Speaker Madigan

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Is Mr. Huff in the chamber? Take this Bill out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 459. Mr. Bowman, do you wish to call your Eill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 459, a Bill for an Act in relation to reports required to be submitted to the General Assembly. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Flcor Amendments?" 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFFESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 29th Legislative Day

Clerk O'Erien

"None."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. House Bill 467. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal acte has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain cn the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 495. Mr. Eowman, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 514. Mr. Stec20, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 517. Mr. DiPrima, do you wish to call your Bill? Is Mr. DiPrima in the chamber? House Bill 584, Mr. Tate. Mr. Tate, do you wish to call ycur Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Fill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 584, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Hadigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

Clerk C'Brien

"Flccr Amendment #1, Tate, amends House Bill 584 on page one, line 21 and sc forth."

Speaker Madigan

"Hr. Tate."

Tate

"Yes, Mr. Speaker and ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1, which Representative Laurinc, and Representative Peterson and myself are sponsoring, addresses SOME technical concerns that were raised in the Insurance Committee by the Kemper Insurance Company. Subsection 2 is being amended to place the burden of attaining an agreement for rehabilitation equally upen the independent insurance agent as well as by the terminating insurance company. The last sentence of the Subsection 3 is being deleted to clarify what contractual terms remain during the termination notice pericd, and those terms would not clearly limit an agent's ability tc bind cr write new business on behalf of the terminating insurance carrier during the notice period. This Amendment makes changes tc 12 STATE OF IIIINCIS 3RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEFATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 Subsection 4 addressing those concerns that a one-year renewal following termination may be too long. We are now providing that renewals may be made for one policy term or up to one year, whichever is sconer. Many insurance policies are written for a six month term, and in those instances, they will be renesed only for six months rather than one year. Finally, we are adding additional valid circumstances where the insurance company shculd not be required to provide notice to the agent. I'd appreciate a favorable Foll Call. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman MOVES for the adoption cf Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?'. All thcse in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Nc further Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Feading. House Bill 609, Mr. Davis. Mr. Davis. Is Mr. Davis in the chamber? House Fill 659. Mr. Bowman, do you wish to call your Bill? Is Mr. Eowman in the chamber? Do you wish to call the Fill? The Gentleman indicates he dces not wish to call the Fill. House Bill 674, Mr. Ronan. Is Mr. Bonan in the chamber? Do you wish to call House Bill 674? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call the Bill. House Fill 682. The Clerk informs the Chair that the pension impact note as amended has not yet been filed; therefore, the Fill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 697. Mr. DeJaegher, dc you wish to call the Eill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 697, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Awendment #1 was adopted in Committee." 13 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFFESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983

Speaker Nadigan

"Are there any Motions?"

Clerk C'Brien

"No Motions filed."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Arerdments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. Ecuse Bill 730. Mr. Rea, dc you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Fill. Take this Fill out of the record, and, Mr. Rea, would you approach the Clerk? There's a technical problem with the Amendment. We shall now return to the Crder of House Fills Second Reading on the Short Debate Calendar and cnce again call the Bills that were not called during the first call. So on page five, House Bill 787, Representative Braun. Is Braun in the chamber? House Fill 793, Representative Alexander. Is Representative Alexander in the chamber? House Bill 195, Mr. Laurino. Is Mr. Iaurino in the chamber? House Bill 300, Mr. Berrios. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 300, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Eill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Motions?"

O'Brien

"No Motions filed."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. House Fill 454. Is Mr. Buff in the chamber? House Bill 517, Kr. DiFrima. Mr. Kulas, could you ask Mr. DiPrima to get off the telephone for a minute? Mr. DiPrima, House Bill 517. Do you wish to call that Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 517, a Bill fcI an Act to amend Sections of the Senior Citizens' and Disabled Persons' Property Tax Relief Act. Second Reading of the Fill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." 14 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE April 13, 1983 29th Legislative Day

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Motions?"

O'Brien

"No Motions filed."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. House Fill 609, Mr. Davis. Mr. Davis, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Fill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 609, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Fill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Ficor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"None."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. House Fill 659. MI. Clerk, read the Fill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 659, a Bill fcr an Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Motions?"

Clerk C'Brien

"No Actions filed."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Ficor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"No Floor Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Third Reading. Rouse Eill 730. MI. Clerk, have you had a chance to talk with Mr. Rea? Ckay. We shall now move to the Order of Third Reading. For what purpose does Mr. Friedrich seek recognition?"

Friedrich

"ΜΓ. Speaker, would you consider going back to House Bill 506 on Short Debate? The problem we had with... we wanted to clear with your side of the aisle has been done."

Speaker Madigan

"Fine. On the Crder of House Fills Second Reading Short Debate Calendar on page four of the Calendar, there appears House Bill 506. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 506, a Fill fcI an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to state finance. Second 15 29th Legislative Day STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Flcor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Floor Amendment #1, Friedrich, amends House Fill..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"Mr. Speaker, this is a clarifying Amendment. Someone raised the question as to whether or nct this...we might be restricting the expenditure of funds by an...person in government. Not...when then the expenditure had DO connection with the government. This merely clears it up, says it does not include personal expenditures."

Speaker Madigan

"ECr what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"

Cullerton

"Mr. Speaker, it's our understanding that the Sponsor wanted to pass Amendment #2 and that he would withdraw Amendment #1, and he appears to be arguing in favcr cf Amendment #1. So, I would ask him what his intentions are with respect to Amendment #2."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"They...they are identical except that there as a clerical error. The #1 was not underlined, so he's exactly right. I would withdraw Amendment #1."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman requests leave tc withdraw Amendment #1. Leave is granted. Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk, are there further Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Floor Amendment #2, Friedrich."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Friedrich on Amendment #2."

Friedrich

"Yeah, this has the same explanation. It merely clarifies that personal expenses are nct to be counted as public funds."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman MOVES for the adcption of Amendment #2. For what purpose does MI. Cullerton seek recognition with that sly grin on his face?" 16 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day

Cullerton

"Well, Mr. April 13, 1983 I wanted to know Speaker, thank ycu. whether or not Representative Friedrich has an Amendment #3 that he wishes to introduce as well?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"I have nc further Amendments. General Cronson told me that the problem that had been raised had been cleared up, and I assume it had. If there is a problem, I'll hold it up. I had been assured it had been cleared up, MI. Speaker. Okay, I understand there's ancther Amendment tc be introduced and circulated, sc I will...I...I ask that the Bill be held on Second Reading, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Ckay. No action was taken on Amendment #2323, and the Bill shall be held on the Order of Second Reading. Is there anyone else who wishes to call a Eill on the Order of Second Beading? Mr. Sea."

Rea

"House Eill 730."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, House Bill 730. Bead the Bill. MI Rea, the Clerk informs me that the Arendment which was just filed has not been printed. So, we'll have to wait for the Amendment to be printed and distributed; and therefore, the Bill shall remain cn the Crder of Second Reading. We shall now move to the Order of Third Reading. We are now cn the Order of Third Reading, final passage stage. Would all Members please give attention to the Calendar and tc the debate on the Order of Third Reading? Cn page six of the Calendar, House Pills Third Reading Short Debate Calendar, House Fill 137. Mr. Terzich, dc you wish to call your Fill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 308. Mr. Fice, dc you wish to call your Bill? House Bill 308 on the Order of Third Reading. The Gentleman indicates he does act wish call his Eill. House Fill 426, Mr. McPike. The Gentleman indicates he dces not wish to call his Bill. Cn the Order of House tc 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 33RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 Bills Third Reading, there appears House Bill 43, Mr. Cullerton. The Gentleman indicates he dces nct wish to call his Bill. House Bill 55. Mr. Greiman, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 55, a Bill fcr an Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigar

"Mr. Greiman."

Greiman

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 55 is a Bill which does some simple equity between the retirement systems. This Bill allows...well, at the present moment, the downstate system allows teachers who are...survivcrs who retire, who are over 55, to remarry and not lose their pension benefits. This would equalize Chicago teachers with the same kind of benefits and rights. It would make no expansiveness at all beyond that point. The other facet of it is tc allcw for early retirement at 55 without discount or penalty. That is currently the law for downstate teachers, and it makes this an equivalent provision for Chicago teachers. At the present time, the Chicago Ecard is already dealing...allowing teachers who are 50...who are 59 and 60 to exercise those rights in any event. So, it merely brings to those teachers who are 56, 7 and 8 those rights. The teachers, to retire early without discount, would of course have to pay a significant aucunt, probably upwards of $10,000 each if they care to retire early. The cost tc the Board...I might tell you that the Pension laws Commission has revised its cpinion with respect to the cost. It, firstly, so shows that it would be a very small cost to both the system and the pension, but in fact shows that we will save money. We will save money, because when a teacher who retires whose making $27,000 retires, she or 18 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 he is normally replaced by a teacher with...making from $13 to $17,000, so that there is a significant savings. It is a fair Bill. It is one of the few pension Bills, probably, that we will save money on for the system and for the Board. And so, I ask for its adoption. Thank ycu."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 55. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?'. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'nc'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Stuffle to explain his vote."

Stuffle

"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. What the Bill does is just as described by Representative Greiman. It's an extension to Chicago teachers with the same provisions under the early retirement system that we have downstate. It would mean a savings to the school system there, a substantial savings, with early retirement. If you take a person who makes $26,000 a year, for example, let them leave two years early. The funded cost to the system is about $9,000 to buy them out, and you can save nearly $40,000 over a life of only four years of replacing that person with an entry age and entry level cost for a new salary. It's an excellent Bill in terms of saving money for the overall school system. It does not have an adverse disadvantage or selection against the system over a period of time, because you're replacing people at less money."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Hoffman to explain his vote."

Hoffman

"Thank you, Mr. Sponsor. I do not wish to make any comment at this time."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 69 'ayes', 34 19 STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 85. Mr. Steczo, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 187. Representative Currie, do you wish to call your Bill? The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 203, Mr. Olson. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Fill 233, Representative Currie. The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 255, Kr. Terzich. House Bill 255 on the Crder of Third Reading. Do you wish to call ycur Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Fill. House Bill 257, Mr. Cullerton. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Fill 257, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Passenger Restraint Act. Third Reading of the Pill."

Cullerton

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill amends the Child Fassenger Restraint Act. This is a Fill that was passed last year. In amendatory message...amendatcry vetc, the Governor provided that...for any first offense in violating the Child Passenger Restraint Act, that a warning ticket had to be issued. We felt, cf course, that that is a very gccd idea to issue warning tickets to give a person a first chance. The problem is that only the Illincis State Ircopers and a very few municipalities have warning tickets. The cther municipalities do not have warning tickets. Cf course, discretion is used by all pclice officers in determining whether ΟΙ not they want to issue a citation. The Municipal League indicates to ME that if...if it is construed that warning ti tickets have to be given, then we are imposing a tremendously costly procedure ch local municipalities. And it's for that reason that the Chicago Police Department and other police departments asked me to 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFFESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 propose this Bill, which eliminates that issuance of a warning citation. And existing law, however, provides that if a first viclation...a citation is given to someone for their first viclation, that all they have to do is show proof of possession of a car seat, and then the fine would be waived. So, the purpose of this Bill is to either do one of two things. Either to make the current Child Passenger Restraint Act enforceable by municipalities, or to avoid those municipalities having to add the additional cost of imposing a system of warning tickets. I might also point out that we have a problem with a warning ticket in the Secretary of State's Office the Secretary of State is in support of this legislation in that they...their computers can pick up offenses if it's a conviction. They can't pick up the warning ticket. So, that is the purpose of the Bill. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 257. And the Chair recognizes Mr. Harris."

Harris

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Harris

"How is 257 different from HB 1, which was passed last week?"

Cullerton

"House Bill 1 created a new Act, a Child Passenger Protection Act, and abolished the Child Passenger Restraint Act. Now, if the Child Passenger Protection Act does not pass or say was vetoed, then we would still be in need of this Bill, because the Child Passenger Restraint Act would be the law, and we would be still stuck with this problem of not being able to enforce the law, because there's no warning citations used by most municipalities. And so, it's a back-up, if you will, to the House Bill 1. And if for some reason House Bill 1 is not passed or if it's 21 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 vetoed, we would still be in need of this Bill."

Harris

"Is your intent, if HE 1 does pass, to simply not push this Bill?"

Cullerton

"Right. This Bill would not be needed. That's why it comes after House Bill 1. And I might point out that House Bill 1 did the same thing. House Bill 1 that we passed out of here overwhelmingly, 83 to 23, last week, does the same thing that this Bill does. It just amends a different Act which is already in existence."

Harris

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Brummer."

Brummer

"Will the Sponsor yield? I know by House Amendment #1 that you changed 'proof of purchase' to 'possession of an approved child passenger restraint system'."

Cullerton

"That's correct."

Brummer

"The...does that mean possession only in the court room?"

Cullerton

"No. Proof that you are now in possession of a car seat. The theory there was..."

Brummer

"I understand the theory. I think in order to at least clarify the legislative intent, you ought to recite on the record, you know, what you mean by possession, and I assume you mean possession over a lengthier period of time for use by the...by the possessor or the child."

Cullerton

"Well, that's right, and the law says, 'Instead of paying the fine, an individual convicted of violating this Act may present proof of purchase of an approved child restraint system. Now, that could be the actual car seat, or it could be a rental agreement from a loan program, or it could be...'"

Brummer

"Now, wait a minute."

Cullerton

"...Or it could be a bill of sale."

Brummer

"Well, was Amendment #1 adopted? Amendment #1 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 eliminated that language and substituted language regarding possession, I think."

Cullerton

"Amendment #1 struck the word 'purchase' and inserted the word 'possession'. So I'm changing it from 'proof of purchase' to 'proof of possession'."

Brummer

"Yes, and my question, to clear up the issue of how long is...is to ask you how long that person needs to be in possession of that child restrain system in order to satisfy the provisions of this Bill."

Cullerton

"They would have to show that as the...on the date of the court appearance in court, that they are on that date in possession of a car seat."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Johnson."

Johnson

"I get...what you're saying is, Representative Cullerton, aside from the option of bringing a child restraint device into court, that police officers will no longer be permitted to issue a warning ticket, that they'll give them a regular ticket with a regular fine and normal sanctions. Is that right?"

Cullerton

"Mr. Speaker, I didn't know the Gentleman was asking me a question, and I would ask that he repeat it."

Johnson

"My question is, after this Bill is passed, if it is, that police officers will be required to issue tickets, citations, as opposed to a warning ticket for a first offense."

Cullerton

"No, that's not..."

Johnson

"Okay, well tell me where I'm wrong then."

Cullerton

"The State Troopers have a system of issuing warning citations. They can still issue warning citations for a first offense, just as they can for any traffic offense. The municipalities that don't have a warning ticket obviously cannot issue one. And so the purpose of this Bill is to allow for those municipalities that don't have a 23 STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 warning ticket not be required to issue one. It doesn't make any sense to require them to issue one when they're not Johnsen: able to do so. Otherwise, they would either have to never be able to enforce the law, or they would have to initiate this costly procedure of initiating a warning ticket system." "You know, we've debated this subject from the...five years ago when they got six votes, and they got 171 'no' votes, to now where we've carried our... the fact that it has effective lobbyists at a place where we've passed absurd legislation that absolutely interferes with the right cf a family to determine what is best for their family, and to make criminals out cf mothers whc breast feed their children or ones who can't afford devices. But what really kind of irks me a little about this legislation is that ever since the Bill was first intrcduced by Representative Dyer and has subsequently been introduced by Representative Cullerton and others, the constant call we've heard from the supporters of this is, 'We're nct really trying to fine the offenders. We're not really trying to make criminals cut cf mcthers or fathers who don't comply with...with this ridiculcus law. But what we really want to do is just to warn them that they re wrong.' And they always cite Tennessee and cther states who traditionally use a warning device where you write out a warning ticket cr simply give an oral warning to the offender, so you can impress upon the family how serious it is that they're not in compliance with this life safety mechanism. But now we've really gene full circuit. We said that at least in those municipalities and thcse areas of the state where warning tickets aren't the current policy, that they have to be issued a citation and that in the absence of their bringing in a froof that they have a 24 STATE OF ILIINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFFESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 device, a safety restraint device that mcst of them probably can't afford to begin with cr they wouldn't have it there. That in the absence of that, they're going to have to pay a fine. They are a criminal. They are going to be issued a citation, and it really seems to go...fly in the face of the whole purpose of this legislation, which was, as I understood it, to impress on the public the seriousness and the wisdom of purchasing and using these kinds of devices. I don't really think it's a philosophical matter any more. It's just purely a matter of imposing upon families, in many cases, unable to afford it, and in other cases, who don't think it's a proper domain of the state tc have gone the last step and that is to say, 'No warnings anymore. We're not going to want to be like Tennessee cr the other states that have simply adopted a system where you can impress on the psyche of the people how important this is, but we're going to give them a fine anyway. I would suggest tc the Chicago Police Department or other departments that there's other avenues than issuing a $25 or $50 traffic citation and give an oral warning. I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to establish some kind of a form - since they have a form for anything else - where you can issue warning tickets. And the bottom line is, we're going to turn mothers and families into criminals where the government doesn't belong to begin with."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. 50pp."

Ropp

"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. In regards to this Bill, I think I've probably received more suffort on my 'no' vote on this last week than Bills in recent time. The question being, I think, is that many people that this will be forced upon ncw will, in fact really not have sufficient money now to go ahead and buy one, or rent one 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 or whatever they are going to do. And the next proposal that will be coming through for this Ecdy's approval is to subsidize a $25 or a $50 per family car seat for infants of this age. I am certainly one who supperts tender, loving care for kids and making sure that they don't get involved in severe accidents, but when we actually go so far as to mandate that people shall actually have a car seat in their car, I think we've really overstepped our bounds. The other thing is that I'm not sure that I... well, the fact is that I've got several people in my area that have sizable family, and with a car seat, they just won't even be able to get everybody in the car to go to church. The final thing is, I think it would be even a better Bill if, in fact, it would have amended the fact that it would encourage service agencies, churches, etcetera, to have lcan-out car seats rather than tc get the individual involved in having to buy one. I am sure a lot of people in, maybe even in your district, will be wanting the state now to come out and to give them a car seat. And I would totally urge the Body to take strong consideration cr that and vote 'no' on this Fil1."

Speaker Madigan

"MI. Cullerton to close."

Cullerton

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Perhaps I can clear up some misunderstandings that have been raised by some opponents to the Bill. First of all, this does nct wake criminals out of mcthers any more than it makes...than a law that says you should have a vehicle sticker on your car makes a criminal out of someone who doesn't have a vehicle sticker. Now, I hope the Representatives who spoke to try to kill the Bill would concede me that. This is nct a criminal offense. We're talking about a petty cffense for which ycu can't go to jail. You just...issued a fine. The second 26 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TEANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 point to be made is that we're not taking away the warning ticket system that is used by Illincis Troopers and by a few municipalities. They can still issue warning tickets. And police officers throughout the state are still gcing to use their discretion as to whether cr nct they are going to give someone a ticket, just the way they give discretion now as to whether or not they should fine somebody or cite somebody for speeding. And furthermore, to reiterate one more time about the cost. You have to own the car for this law to apply. It has to be your child, and it has to be your car. Now if you can cun the car, then you can own a car seat. That's what the thecry is. But if for some reason you can't afford $35 per car seat - the cost of filling up your car twice - then you can rent a car seat. There's over 65 rental programs and loan programs in the State of Illincis. It costs...in my area, you can lcan a car seat, bor...rent a car seat for $10. Now, no one's ever asked, that I know of, for a free car seat, because they couldn't afford the $10. But if they did, I am sure that that could be loaned to them for nothing. So, this is...this Bill, however, this discussion, probably is on the broader subject of the car seat Eill and nct on this specific limited point. The...the law, as it stands now, says that you have to issue a warning ticket. Folice officers in most municipalities don't have warning tickets. So either we're going to require them to get warning tickets, which are very expensive, or the Fill cannot be enforced by those municipalities. And that to me is absurd. That's the purpose of the Eill. I think it's very clear that it's needed, and I would ask for your support."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 257. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'nc'. Have all ycted whe wish? 27 29th Legislative Day STATE OF IILINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 Mr. Friedrich to explain his vote."

Friedrich

"Mr. Speaker, I'm not going to make a lengthy statement, but I'd just point cut that if you want government to be all powerful and all protective and think they have an obligation to protect everybody from everything, and that individual citizens - with all the education we have - are not able to accept responsibilities, then you should vote for this. Otherwise, I think you should vote 'no'."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. White to explain his vote."

White

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we heard testimony pertaining to this Bill. I stand before you now asking your support for it, because we are concerned about the growth and the development of our young people. I think it's only fair that we put their health ahead of a few dollars. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hawkinson to explain his vote."

Hawkinson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I voted against House Bill 1 last week because of the elimination of the personal needs exemption. This Bill closes some of the loopholes in the law without affecting that exemption, and I urge your support for this Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Brookins to explain his vote."

Brookins

"Mr. Speaker, I voted against this Bill, because I know that this is just another excuse. If we can't warn the folks, then we'll have another Traffic Court full of people being prosecuted for no reason. So for this reason, I voted 'no'."

Speaker Madigan

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 71 'ayes', 27 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 264. Mr. 28 STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEEBIY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day Stuffle, do you wish to call your Bill? the Bill." Mr. April 13, 1983 Clerk, read

O'Brien

"House Bill 264, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"MI. Stuffle." Stuffle: a House Bill "Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. 264 simply provides mechanism by which the regional superintendents of education in the various counties and regions or their subordinates may attend labor relations conferences in the pursuit of their duties that we assigned them under House Bill 701 to conduct bargaining elections. The Bill also provides a method for funding to send those particular individuals to those conferences without forcing And I would ask an additional ccst on lccal government. for an aye vote."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of Rouse Bill 264. Is there any discussion? There being nc discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?". All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all vcted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record.. On this question, there are 89 ayes, 12 'nc'. This Pill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 266, Fepresentative Nelson. The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Eill. House Bill 267. The Lady indicates she dces nct wish tc Bill. House Eill 291, Representative Ereslin, do ycu wish Representative to call her Breslin. call House Fill 2912"

Breslin

"I have an Amendment prepared. It is not distributed yet. I'd like to come back to it later, please."

Speaker Madigan

"Dc you wish to take the Fill tc the Order of Second Reading now?" 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day

Breslin

April 13, 1983 "No, I'll wait until the Amendment gets distributed."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you. The Bill shall not be called. House Bill 293. Mr. Klemm, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 293, a Bill for an Act in relation to non-coal mine lands which threaten public health, safety and general welfare and property. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Klemm."

Klemm

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 293 allows the Abandoned Coal Mine Land Reclamation Council to be able to assist in aban...in non-coal mining practices where there is an extreme danger affecting the life or public health of our community or individuals. Right now, we have no area that we can adequately turn to, and since this Bill had...a similar Bill had passed unanimously last Session and was caught up in the Calendar of the Senate, I am reintroducing this Bill to assist us to give some measure of protection for those that are non-coal mining. I want to make it clear that the intent of this Bill is not to use the federal funds set aside for the use for coal mining, and I want to use that as the intent. But in talking to the lobbyists for one of the coal mining organizations, they felt that because of the extreme danger that may be involved, that they had no opposition to that point, and I do ask for your affirmative vote on House Bill 293."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 293. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, for what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"

Cullerton

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield." 30 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983

Cullerton

"What is the position of the Department of Mines and Minerals? They are nct opposed to it? Does that mean they're..."

Klemm

"No, nc one has been opposed to it. The Abandoned Coal Mine Reclamation Council is in favor of it."

Cullerton

"What about the Department of and M?"

Klemm

"They have not opposed it."

Cullerton

"They have taken no position?"

Klemm

"Yes, nc position. They did offer..."

Cullerton

"It's it strange that they...isn't it strange that they wouldn't have taken a positior on this Bill? Doesn't it directly affect them?"

Klemm

"I don't know why they didn't. Because it affects the Council and not the Department. Maybe that's the reason why they didn't take a position. I did offer the Amendments to correct any questions that the Committee had made."

Cullerton

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hannig."

Hannig

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield for questions?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Hannig

"Yes, why is it necessary that we should use the Abandoned Lines... Mines Reclamation Council to basically try to recover lands that are non-ccal mine lands. Is there nct some cther agency that'd be acre appropriate?"

Klemm

"Well, the reason that crganization or council was selected, because it was already in place, because it does the very same thing for the coal mining lands. It was felt by me that there was no sense in going to the cost of establishing a new Commission or a new organization when it's already in place. And since it's only to be used in the extreme danger type of thing, it's not going to be 31 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION LEBATE there to reclaim any abandoned coal cr non-ccal mining areas." April 13, 1983

Hannig

"Would the passage of this Fill in any way take away monies that could be available to reclaim ccal prcjects, for example?"

Klemm

"Alright, as I indicated in the initial presentation, that only under an extreme danger the Council could, perhaps, put maybe a fence around a pit that's going to keep some child from falling in it. I did make it as the intent of this Bill is that it's not to be used just to rehabilitate or a reclamation of an abandoned pit, and that's not my intent now. And I want to go on record again to reiterate that."

Hannig

"It...Are you saying that the Council, though, could use monies that would ctherwise be available for ccal reclamation projects if they dee, that then would be necessary?"

Klemm

"Well, I don't think they can, because that is federal monies, and there are a great deal cf restrictions that can be done. However, I would think that if, for extrems emergency nature, that if the Federal Government would allow them to do it, that yes, they possibly cculd. But it has...and it's very limited. And when the Committee asked me these questions and suggested scue Amendments that I did offer, Amerdments 1 and 2, to clarify that very question that you have, that I did offer them, and they have been adopted and are in fact part of this Bill."

Hannig

"The analysis that I have says that it would mandate the Department to give such non-coal mine reclamaticns a high priority. Would that not indicate that it could, in many cases for example, take away frcu the Department's financial ability to reclaim coal lands?"

Klemm

"Well, that is not what the Fill says, and I would say 32 STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEPATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 that your analysis on that part is wrong. It does not mandate them, and it does not give it at a high pricrity."

Hannig

"Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. McMaster."

McMaster

"will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponser indicates that he will yield."

McMaster

"ΜΕ. Klemm, I guess my concern is with the use we are making of federal funds, which are funneled... derived from coal mining purposes and then funneled back to the states based upon the amount of ccal wined within each state, I believe, is where we get the money back into the abandoned wine lands fund. Can we really spend this federal money for reclamation cut...o .or protection outside of coal mine lands? This is what my concern is.. Will we run into trouble with the Feds saying we're improperly using it?"

Klemm

"The Council has indicated to me that certainly they would not spend any monies of federal monies that were set aside for the coal if they could act do that. But we have no mechanism right now even established in the State of Illincis to offer any sense of protection. If in fact this Fill is passed, at least we would have a Council established already that could look into the situation. Perhaps we'll find some money someplace. I don't know, but at least we have that mechanism in place. If they find out that they possibly could use a token amount of the money to save a few lives, as has happened where a loss of lives in some of the abandoned pits, then yes, I guess they would vote to do that. The Council has that determination. I understand, however, that there are not federal funds available for it."

McMaster

"Well, I guess you're talking around the guestion, Dick. I'm still concerned about what the federal people are going to say if we pass this law, and if indeed we dc 33 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 make use of it. You say that the Abandonded Mine Lands Council will not use the funds if the federal law dces not permit it. I would guess that your intent with this legislation would be to fence, for instance, gravel or rock guarries. Is this what your intent is?"

Klemm

"Well, only if it were to serve to save a life, because it would have... But not just to go out and discriminately and put fences arcund..."

McMaster

"Yeah, but...but...".

Speaker Madigan

"Gentleman, could we discontinue the conversation back and forth? Questions and answers, please."

Klemm

"Maybe 90% of all the gravel pits are...or 99% would never be affected by it, but I certainly think that if, in case there is that pit that is abandoned and left to the nature, and there is no cooperation by anybody, then at least the state can come in and at least do something to keep and remove that extreme danger. And if it's not using federal funds - and I'm not even quarreling with that - at least we should have some Council that we could go to. This is what that Bill would be creating."

McMaster

"Well, I certainly would agree with you on the protection of lives, Dick. I am concerned that the money that is derived from coal mining would be going to protection of, for instance, gravel pits or stone quarries. I think that those gravel quarries and stone quarries should be responsible for protecting the areas that they leave. And I do believe that current law requires them to. And I do know that there are cases where, for instance, a hole from erosion will develop under a fence, and I don't know if this is where the lives or how the lives are lost up in that area or not, Dick, but I am concerned about the use of federal money for... derived from a source such as 34 29th Legislative Day STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 coal being used for other purposes such as gravel or stone quarries."

Klemm

"Well, I certainly understand, and that's the reason I wanted to make it as my intent. That is not the purpose for that. There were the similar questions in Committee. That's the reason I did offer the two Amendments to say...to alleviate those fears, and I think I've successfully done it with those Amendments."

McMaster

"Thank you.."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hicks."

Hicks

"Yes, does the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Hicks

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I applaud what the Gentleman is attempting to do with the Bill except for the fact that I feel the intent of opening up this fund for more ways of taking dollars out of it. The intent of taking a small amount is fine, but the people who put the money into this fund was the coal mines. They've paid for it all the way through. There are many thousands of acres out here which have not been reclaimed due to the fact that the Reclamation laws were not into effect when the coal mining industry first started. Rather than taking dollars out of this fund for other sources and other things to do with it, I would think that we have plenty of land that is...is coal land which could be reclaimed itself rather than locking for other ways of taking dollars out of this fund. I would ask the Assembly to vote 'no' on this issue and...for the purpose of what the intent is on it. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Flinn."

Flinn

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I am...reluctantly rise to oppose the Bill. The purposes for which the Gentleman said the 35 29th Legislative Day STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 money would be used out of the reclamation fund is a very noble purpose. But the money wasn't set aside for that. The money was set aside for...exclusively for reclaiming mined out land. Now, as soon as we break the precedent and start tapping the fund for whatever noble purpose it be, it becomes a very attractive fund to attack it for some cther purpose. Now if we set it aside for one purpose, we tax the coal mines for so much per ton of ccal they produce tc build a fund tc reclaim land, then that's what it should go for and nothing else, regardless how noble a purpose. So I oppose the Fill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Klemm to close."

Klemm

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and ladies and Gentlemen of the House. You know, there's no intention in this Fill tc try to deplete the funds set aside that were to be used for coal, and I tried to make that clear both in Committee and both here сп the floor of the House. But it seems to me there has to be some compassion, at least, of trying tc resolve a problem that has and does exist. We all, I think, are aware that the statutes now prevent abandoned gravel mining to be not reclaimed. The laws say that it must, and we do have the Reclamation Act, and we certainly all support that. Put We do have, on occasion, some abandoned pits that certainly are in a dangerous area. I happen to kncw that for a fact, because in my area I had some children lcse their lives. It was just a matter of perhaps putting a gate or a chain across something. They were absentee cwners. Nobody could dc a thing. In talking with one of the lobbyists from the ccal industry after the Committee, they even agree. They said they could understand where it could be necessary, and they have no cpposition た。 that, provided that is for what it is used for, the extreme danger. In Committee, the people and 36 STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 Committee Members had asked that same guestion. Amendments were added to make that very clear. I think I answered those questions. I think it is a fair, honest way cf at least approaching the problem without creating more bureaucracy and without depleting anybody's funds. I do ask your strong consideration in this particular case and vote affirmatively on 293. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"The question is, 'Shall this Fill pass?'. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 82 'ayes', 15 'ncs'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. It is the plan that the Farties shall now go to Farty Conferences. For that purpose, the Chair reccgnizes Mr. Ycurell."

Yourell

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hould the Speaker give us a room for a Democratic Caucus? What Icca number?"

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Clerk, which room for the Demccrats? 114 for the Democrats. Mr. Friedrich."

Friedrich

"118, please, for the Fepublicans immediately after..."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you. Let us go tc caucus immediately and attempt to be back on the floor in 15 minutes. 15 minutes. For what purpose does Mr. Tate seek recognition?"

Tate

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlener of the class {sic House), I rise for the purpose of an introduction. I have Mr. 'Swearengen' and Mr. 'Chase' with the Stonington High School junior and senior class up in the balcony. I would appreciate a warm welcome for them to Springfield. Thank ycu."

Speaker Madigan

"Thank you. So, would all Members please go to Party Caucus as expeditiously as possible, so that we can 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMPLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 return to the floor, conclude our business and then go to Committee? Thank you. The House shall come to order. On page seven of the Calendar on the Crder of House Bills Third Reading, there appears House Bill 302. Representative Topinka, do you wish to call your Bill? Representative Topinka, could you tear ycurself away from Mr. DiPrima? Mr. Clerk, read the Eill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 302, a Bill for an Act to amend Third Reading Sections of the Civil Administrative Code. of the Fill."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Icpinka."

Topinka

"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, thank you for your forbearance as I was trying to help out one of my friendly Democratic colleagues on the other side in his behalf. Anyway, House Bill 302 provides for an cmission in the authority of the Department of Conservation, so that they right now be able to lease lands and purchase lands... which are historical structures on the state and federal list. So, it is limited in its scope. The background for all of this is that many of these structures do indeed provide a potential focal point for business development in local areas. Fight now this is net allowed to the Department of Conservation, which does have this right, for instance, in recreational lands and in cther properties. And that's basically the summation of the Fil1."

Speaker Madigan

"Is there any discussion? There being nc discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Fill pass?". All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those cpposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all vcted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this Eill, there are 55 aye', 6 'nos'. This Fill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION LEPATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 Bill 307. Mr. Firkinbine, do you wish to call ycur Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 307, a Bill for an Act to repeal Sections of the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Birkinbine."

Birkinbine

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 307 would repeal the prohibition on insurance related companies from being able tc make campaign contributions. Ic give you some background, ir years passed, there have been a number of different groups - banks, currency exchanges, liguor licensees, what have you - that have, for one reason or ancther, been restricted from making such contributions. Cver the years, all such prohibitions have been removed with the now single exceptions of racetracks and insurance companies. I don't know why, but those two are the two remaining. This Bill would remove that prohibition against insurance companies. Presently, the Bill, while it sounds all-inclusive, really is not that way. There are about 150 small ccunty and township mutuals that do a lot of farm insurance. They are not covered under this Bill, neither are the very large companies. They usually work through parent companies, and as such, are not covered. A gccd example would be Allstate, which falls under the Sears category. This Bill would, more or less, remove the prchibition against the medium size companies, and I ask fcr ycur 'aye' vote. I would say that it passed out of this House successfully last year, but got stalled in the Senate."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 307. Is there any discussion? There being nc discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 88 'ayes', 15 'nos. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 317, Mr. Jaffe, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"House Bill 317, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Jaffe."

Jaffe

"Yes. Mr. Speaker and Members, this is a Bill that's jointly sponsored by Representative Johnson and myself, and what it deals with, it deals with a method of distributing monies is received on a claim between Public Aid and attorneys' fees. There's been some sort of problems in the past. What the Bill now is is Amendment #2, which is an Agreed Amendment with Public Aid. Public Aid now supports the Bill and it's been worked out, and I don't know of opposition to it. So I would urge an 'aye' vote on it."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentlemen moves for the passage of House Bill 317. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? For what purpose does Representative Alexander seek recognition?"

Alexander

"My key is missing, and I thought I had voted on the last vote, and now... I am not getting anything. Who has my key?"

Speaker Madigan

"So, would the doorkeeper come to Representative Alexander's desk and turn on the voting switch. And let the record show on this Roll Call that Representative Alexander is voting 'aye', and that she voted 'aye' on the last Roll Call. And the Clerk shall take the record. On 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION TEPATE April 13, 1983 29th Legislative Day this question, there are 100 'ayes', 3 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page nine of the Calendar on the Crder of Senate Bills Second Reading, there appears Senate Bill 177. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

O'Brien

"Senate Bill 177, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the ordinary and contingent expense to the Department of Public Aid. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

O'Brien

"Amendment #1, Reilly, amends Senate Bill 177 on page one by deleting lines one and two."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Reilly. Mr. Hallock, would you sit down?"

Reilly

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 177 does two things. One is it makes some supplemental in transfer appropriations for the Department of Mental Health, so that they can get through the end of the year, and it's fairly routine, as far as I know. The second Amendment... the second part of the Amendment makes several cuts in the amount of money that we're going to put into the various retirement systems. Now I want to emphasize that we're going to put even with this something like $260,000,000.00 into the retirement system. We're not taking a dime out. We're putting money in. The question is, how much money are we going to put in, if this Amendment passes and then the Bill... if this Amendment is adopted and then the Bill passes? We will be, at that point, dealing in good faith, it seems to me. I'll be glad to answer questions - go into however much detail the Membership wants. I would offer... Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 177."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentlemen moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. On that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. 41 29th legislative Lay Matijevich." STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEEATE April 13, 1983

Matijevich

"Would the Gentlemen yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponscr indicates that he will yield."

Matijevich

"Representative Reilly, only because I haven't had a chance to lock at this Amendment yet, and it is fairly lengthy. I naturally wanted to lock to see how it impacts on my Waukegan Developmental Center, and it doesn't impact that much. I think we lose only about $20,000.00 in this transfer that you're trying to maneuver here. But as I look at some other facilities, for example, I think Howe loses... no Howe gains some here, but some lose. And what I found though as I thumb through the pages, that although we may lose in the transfer, Shapirc - which just happens to be where the Lieutenant Governor resides - gains a million dollars in this transfer. And I want to let you know that in my area, in Waukegan Developmental Center - because this Bill has to do a lot with the closing of Dixon - what's happening that many of the employees at Dixon are coming to my Waukegan Developmental Center because of their seniority and bumping some people that lived in my district virtually all of their lives. Yet, my Waukegan Developmental Center is losing some funds here. I don't want to vote for something that I think it very possibly could be... be putting monies in transfer to Shapiro because somebody's got some political clout. And yet my area, just because it's the Waukegan Developmental Center, and just because of Dixon, is being burt by it. Now I notice that many of the centers, for example, because of this dipping into the pension fund, are losing cut of the state's contribution to the pension system. Yet in Shapiro, they're making quite a substantial addition to the contribution of the pension system in that particular area. So, could you explain that part of it to me? I... I'd like 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION [FEATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 to explain how come Shapiro does pretty well on this fill, on this transfer, where the rest of us don't fair cut toc well."

Reilly

"Dixon is not the only center that fairs well. There's a pattern that..."

Matijevich

"No, I meant Shapiro. Shapirc fairs well."

Reilly

"Shapiro, I mean. Shapiro is not the only one that dces, there is a pattern to this which is consistent with what they've been doing in terms of the closing of Cixen all along. As patients are transferred, Shapiro is one of the receiving facilities. As patients are transferred, the staff and the funding for the staff has to move with them. And all... that's all that's going CE. Nothing, I might add, is being taken away from the institutions that are having cuts. The cuts, as you understand, Representative Matijevich, are in retirement. The acney is simply being gathered together for the other institutions to reflect the rovement and the anticipated movement through the end cf the fiscal year of patients from lixon. And the various other institutions are gaining, including Shapiro, in ta proportion to the transfers that have occurred and are going to occur this fiscal year from Dixon."

Matijevich

"Well, for example,... and I haven't... where is Jacksonville? Where is your agency? Cn what page is that? I'd like to compare, for example, how you might fair."

Reilly

"We had... i don't know if... if Jacksonville is even... even in here che way or the other are not. I can tell you the situation with regard to Jacksonville. We were che of the receiving facilities, and we got a considerable boost in employment earlier in the year. All the transfers that are going to be made to Jacksonville have already been made. ...The answer is, we're losing a $130,000.00.1

Matijevich

"Can you explain to me why on page 125, Shapiro in 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION LERATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 this... we're not talking about the sccial... the pension system. We're talking about personal services. You have 20,700,000.00 as opposed to what is presently in the law, 19,700,000.00. That's an increase in a million dollars at Shapiro. Nou, I don't know why the rest cf US cught tc take a few cents cut when Shapiro gets a $1,000,000.00 increase. That... that's what I'm concerned abcut. That's...that's personal services. That's not the pension system we're talking about. We're talking..."

Reilly

"No, I indicated that the receiving... Shapirc is not the only one that is gaining. But as patients are transferred, of course, there is going to be an increase in personal services, because they have tc have increased staff at the receiving institutions to reflect the transfers. There is nothing... there is nothing new about that. Staff is telling me that there was also one of the buildings that they thought they were going tc be able tc use at Chicago-Read. The Dirsel Building is at... that ccrrect? And some of those transfers are... It turns out they can't. And some of those transfers are affected here alsc. But again, Shapiro is not the only institution that's gaining. All the institutions that are still receiving patients as transfers from Dixon are all gaining."

Matijevich

"Are you kidding? There's nochody getting anymore, I don't think, than Waukegan Developmental Center, and we're losing 20,000.00 bucks, I think. I... you know I went it over very, very guickly. I don't know if anybody is being impacted more by the closing cf Dixon than Waukegan Developmental Center. And I sure don't see any extra dcllars here for Waukegan."

Reilly

"The guestion..."

Matijevich

"You know, I think what you Members ought to dc, you ought to lock at how this impacts cn your district, if you 44 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBIY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEFATE April 13, 1983 really want to get political about it. And wonder how...why it is that Shapiro makes cut like a bandit, that when my district that is really being impacted gets a cut. Now, I want the Governor or anybody else to answer that. You don't even have a director at the Department of Mental Health today, virtually. And yet, somebody is making a decisions, And I'm sure it's Mandeville again making those decisions that knows nothing about what's happening cut in the field."

Reilly

"Again, Representative Matijevich, we can of course make every issue into a political one between us and Lieutenant Governor or whoever. The fact is, Shapiro is not the only one that's gaining. The fact is that the staffing pattern and the transfer patterns are being carried out according to the plan that was been set cut. Those institutions that are receiving patients are gaining staff. Whether there is new money in for any particular institution, even the receiving ones, depends on when the... where we are in the transfer process. Again, Jacksonville, my own, gained a great deal early in the year because of the transfers. We're gaining nothing in this Bill. The reason is because the transfers have already occurred. Other institutions are still gaining or are going to gain, because the transfers are yet to come. There's nothing surreptitious about this, and as a final comment is...as final response to your question, no, we all want to look at this in terms of our own district. The fact is, nobody's district is being hurt by this Amendment, because there are no funds that were going to be spent anyway being taken away from any institution. This...the Department has been on this essential spending plan for quite a while. The... nothing is changing except that we're... we're in...making the ending balances of the various institutions end up as they 45 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 29th legislative Day should."

Matijevich

"Well, I don't want to belator the point, but when I'm... but when you're talking about a total of $4,000,000.00 in a supplemental, and when I lock at what's happening at Dixon, and then when I find out what...what institutions are being impacted by the closing of Dixon, I'm not saying one should put their vote on this bcard in a political way. Eut I just wonder if somebody has nct, in finalizing this Bill, may have not looked at some politics in effect. So, therefore, I'd like tc vcte for this Amendment, because I know we're up a tree. But frankly, I have to protect what's happened at Waukegan. We have been devastated by the cuts. We have been devastated by the closing of Dixen. It hasn't been, I think, handled in a professional way. And I can't see how I can vote for something that really hurts my area. They have not been treated properly."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Mautino."

Mautino

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Before I have some questions to raise to the Sponsor, I would like to crpose a parliamentary inquiry to the Speaker, as it pertains to a separation of a question. Since the supplemental appropriation for the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities, in my estimation, is totally removed from the pension question as it pertains to the funding levels. And on that part of parliamentary inquiry, I'd like to address the Speaker cn the separation of the question."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Mautino. Mr. Kautino, I don't think we understood your question. Are you asking if there cculâ be a division of the question?"

Mautino

"Yes."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Mautino, maybe you could amplify a bit cn 46 STATE OF IILINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day your reguest for Farliamentarian." April 13, 1983 a division for the benefit of the

Mautino

"Well, first and foremost, when the Governcr's proposal was to close the Dixon Developmental Center, Fepresentative Ebbesen, Clson, myself and Representative Schunenan, at that time, opposed the initial provisions. The ultimate savings on that proposal as presented by the Governor was approximate $6,000,000.00. To this date, we're now locking at about $22,000,000.00 in expenses, and I consider it be tc a boondoggle. I feel that since we are addressing the question of both pensions and a supplemental appropriation, there should be a division of that Arendment. And that is my concern."

Parliamentarian Getty

"The Gentlemen could move tc... to divide every separate appropriation contained in an appropriation Bill, but could not separate cut a topic under consideration."

Mautino

"Thank you, Fr. Farliamentarian. On that question, and I find myself on a very precarious situation, Representative Reilly. I know full well that about $3,000,000.00 goes to the Dixon Developmental Center. At the same time, I also know that many of the contractual services for psychiatrists and psychologists hold 30-hour weeks at $51,000 and $48,000. I am alsc concerned that since we've been laying a lot of peaple off at Dixon and the transferability and the program for the transfer ability is nct completed nor has really been presented to Members of the General Assembly. And currently, the fact that we don't have a Director of Mental Health and Developrental Disabilities, I would like to kncw how you are going to spend the three in a half million dollars at Dixon, number one, and number tuc, make a statement that I see nothing but a total boondoggle coming cut of the 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBIY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CERATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 closure of that facility and a tranferring of those clients, if possible, because beds are not available to other facilities. I have the same concern that John Matijevich has."

Speaker Madigan

"Ar. Feilly."

Reilly

"As a general comment, if somebody expects me to stand up and say that the Department of Mental Health has now or at anytime during the time I've known ther, done a gccd and effective job of anything, I am not going to stand up and say that. If you're saying they've blown it, I agree with you. Unfortunately, for better, for Horse, We find ourselves where we are. Iet me confer with staff one second to get the answer to how the three in a half million is going to be spent."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Mautino, have you finished?"

Mautino

"I'm waiting for a response, Mr. Speaker."

Reilly

"Representative Mautino, I don't know if this answer'll ...will exactly satisfy you. It is 3,8 million in new money for Dixon. That's substantially all the new money, despite the earlier dialogue, that goes to Lixon. And... and the spending is acICSS the bcard. I mean, it's personal services, contractual, maintenance, the whole works. Basically, based on the fact that, as you indicated, they make glowing promises. They'd have it close down by EPS, and they haven't been able to keep those promises. To keep it open and operating through the end of the fiscal year, they've got to have the additional money."

Mautino

"Well, that's the dilemma I find myself in. I know the three and a balf million is needed because of the boondoggle that has occurred up there. At the same time, I don't particularly care to support the transferability as it pertains to the pension funds of the employees of the State of Illincis. And that was my reguest for a division cf 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION [FEATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 of the question. And in that regard, as a Member who still has part of those employees in that facility in my legislative district, I find it very difficult to support the Amendment as presented. I think the Governor is remiss and, basically, did not tell the truth on this so-called savings that he projected from that facility. I think we are now seeing the end result of a complete mess. And with my feelings on both ends of that Bill, I'm sorry that I cannot support the Amendment #1."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Levin."

Levin

"Would the Gentlemen yield?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

Levin

"Is any of this money going to go to Region 2 to replace the 6% cut that has been made in Region 2 or to rehire any of the... rather substantial number of staff, I think, amounting to about 85% of the staff in the city of Chicago that's been laid off?"

Reilly

"The answer is no."

Levin

"So this does absolutely nothing for any part of Region 2?"

Reilly

"It does for Region 2. It does but... but only for facility budgets, which we are not talking about. I understand that Representative McGann intends to offer an Amendment that would increase community funding. I intend to support that Amendment."

Levin

"But this Amendment doesn't do anything you see. His Amendment does. But your Amendment doesn't do anything for Region 2 in the kind of facilities I'm talking about."

Reilly

"Well, if you ignore the facilities. If you ignore the institutions, they get... they give money. That's...the Bill deals with institutions, not only in Region 2, but all over. Region 2 gets some more money for its institutions. It doesn't get anymore money for community anymore than any 49 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEFATE April 13, 1983 29th Legislative Cay cther Region dces."

Levin

"Ic you know why, when it came to time to make the cuts, there were virtually no cuts in any cther Region, but there was a 6% in Region 2? I've been trying to get an answer to why for about the last 4 or 5 months, and i've yet to get any kind of answer that makes any sense."

Reilly

"And the answer is, it's not true. The other Region... all the Regions took, as I view the matter, approximately the same cut. The difference was, the cther Regions were willing to sit down... the community people in the other Regions were willing to sit down with the Department and work out where those cuts would come. And the cuts came in areas in the other Begions where they weren't going to hurt the community facilities. The community agencies in Region 2 said, 'We aren't going to sit down with you. There are no cuts that are acceptable to us.' Sc the Department then went ahead and made the cuts on its own, and those cuts ended up hurting. Eut what ...the ascunt get cut in each Region was roughly proportional. In the cther Regions, they wou would cut, for example, new projects that hadn't started yet. Sc in a sense, that didn't hurt anybody. They would cut increases that were due to take effect this calendar year, but hadn't taken effect yet. Eut the cuts were there. I can show you that the cuts occurred in every Region."

Levin

"I've locked at staff analysis, and I've looked at analysis done by the Commission on Mental Health, and they all suggest that the cuts in Region 2 were disproportionate. That of... of the total amcunt that was cut, it almost all was in Region 2. There is a breakdown, I've seen on a number of occasions by a number of different staffs, by percentage reduction by Region and for the other Regions, it's all 0 or close to 0. Cn Region 2, it's 6%. 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMPIY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEFATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 I don't see hcw anybody from Region 2 can vote at this point, to give more money... to take money out of pensions that are gcing to residents of Fegicn 2, taxpayers, and make... have further monies go elsewhere. I would oppose this Amendment at this point, until we can get some justice for Region 2."

Speaker Madigan

"Representative Terzich."

Terzich

"Yes. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Speaker Hadigan

"The Spooscr indicates that he will yield."

Terzich

"Yes. What is the shortfall of the pension contributions that I use... being used to finance State Government once again? Did the Sponsor leave, Mr. Speaker? He can't take the pressure or what? He guit?"

Speaker Madigan

"The Sponsor wanted me to tell him how we handled you on the southwest side. So, now he's prepared. So, Mr. Reilly, the distinguish Representative Terzich has a question."

Reilly

"I'm sorry, Boh. I apologize. Would γου repeat the question?"

Terzich

"Oh, that's...that's alright. I mean we..."

Reilly

"It was an interesting election. I didn't need to confer with my mentor to find out how it came out."

Terzich

"On the Amendment, what amount of money is being the shortfall on the pension contributions? You know, last couple years, I think the Governor shortchanged the pension systems to a total about $500,000,000. What will this bring up to finance State Government?"

Reilly

"The proposal would reduce the amcunt of pension funding by $85,000,000. Therefore, that $85,000,000... I meant ...therefore, will be only, in quotes, only $200,000,000 in debt at the end of the year rather than roughly 300,000,000'."

Terzich

"The... I assumed that a similar explanation is that the 51 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEFATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 pension systems had better earnings than the average, and therefore, that the systems don't need the money at this time."

Reilly

"It's not a matter that they don't need money. It's a matter... NC, no, that is correct, that the pension systems have had better earnings than in several years, partly because of the so-called Frudent Person Rule, and partly because of the economy and the high interest rates. That is... that is certainly true, but I think the question really goes beyond that. Everybody is in... is having difficulties. I'm not sure why this one area is sacrosanct as compared with others. I don't like cutting 100, 200, 300,000,000 as we have out of education funding. I don't like cutting 2 - 300,000 out of Mental Health funding or Public Aid Medical funding, cr fer all the other areas. I'm not sure why this one area, given the horrible situation that we're in, ought to te immuned from the same kinds of cutbacks that we've had to dc in every area."

Terzich

"Well, has the General Assembly, ΟΓ the Judges' Retirement System contribution been reduced? I don't believe that they're in there."

Reilly

"The answer is, that the transfer for both of those has already occurred, and we cannot, by law, take that back. However...however, there is, on the Speaker's desk, Senate Joint Besclution 22, of which I'm the House Sponsor, and which I intend to call before we take action on this Pill on Third Reading. And that Resclution provides that we will take out of next year's funding, which is the socnest we can get at the question, that we will take cut of next year's funding for the General Assembly and the Judges' Retirement System a proportional arcunt that we are taking out... that we're not appropriating to the others."

Terzich

"Then I assumed, also, that if ycu are going to be 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 cutting the employers' contribution to the pension system, I assumed then that you would be supporting legislation that would also reduce the employee contribution for a similar amcunt. Or is it just the employees that have tc carry the brunt cf lack cf contributions to the pension system?" Reilly "The employees aren't, in my opinion, carrying the brunt of lack of contribution at all. The unaccrued...the funding ratio is, until the very last year, been going up. The state... I absolutely agree, ought to be doing a better job. But I could give you a thousand other areas, Fob, in which we ought to be doing a better job. We ought to be doing a better jcb of funding schcols. We cught to be doing a better job of funding Mental Health. All I'm saying is that if the choice is between ancther $100,000,000 in borrowing, the Governor sa ys he won't do that. If the choice is between a bigger tax increase, then I make the tough choice that we were sent here and are paid to make."

Terzich

"Well, with regard to the Arendment, I...I think that it's actually an outrage that the...that the state would again go into the persion system, that they have now lived up to their obligation to fund these, that this is going to bring the funding up to approximately $600,000,000. I recall the first year, I said, "Well, this torrowing is just going to be just this year only, and that would be it'. And during that time, I have not seen any... any motion towards the employees' contribution. Every employee in the state has been paying into their pension system. They're entitled to this money. It's not the state's money to be used back and forth upon State Government. We do have a funding problem when these people come and ask for a pension benefit. We yell and scream about the unfunded 53 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEFATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 liability. But apparently, the biggest culprit in the unfunded liability is the employer that is not meeting his obligation, but certainly will accept the emplcyees' contributions to help fund State Government. I am definitely against this Bill. I think that the pension system should be funded and in it's proper... This is an actual obligation of the state that we promised to pay to the employees and their pension systems. And I would urge an 'nc' vote on this transfer."

Reilly

"Speaker, Mr. Speaker, can I..."

Speaker Hadigan

"Mr. Reilly."

Reilly

"Yes. With all due respect to Representative Terzich, he used the word 'borrowing'. There is nc borrowing period. We're not taking any money out of the fund. If these funds are the pensicners, then sc are the school funds to school kids. I don't know what makes one sc much more sacrosanct then the others. We're taking ncthing out. It's a matter we're putting money in. It's a matter of how much money we're going to fut in. And that's a distinction in... it simply distorts the whole guestion to ignore that distinction."

Terzich

"Alright, then we'11 just state that the state is shortchanging the pension system with the addition of this...and up to $600,000,000, if you want to put it to words. But it's still a shortchange to the pension system..."

Speaker Madigan

"Gentlemen, let me just remind both of you that the proper procedure is not to debate back and forth, but to address the Amendment, or to address the Bill. Mr. Stuffle."

Stuffle

"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members. This is an interesting proposal, because each time that we get up and propose any change in pension benefits on this floor, someone 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEFATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 invariably, and particularly, but not always, luckily, from side of the aisle says, "The money simply isn't there. It's going to cost millions of dollars. We're tapping the state again". No one evers stands up though, it seems, to say anything about the emplcyees, the annuitants. Representative Terzich did though. And he should've. I'm getting a little tired of being told that no matter how good a benefit is, the money isn't there. And he's absolutely right when he says it's nct there, through no fault at all of the employers or the annuitants. It's not there because of our faults. If you take this to its logical conclusion, you never give anycne a new benefit. You'd take away something we've got now, if it weren't for the constitutional protections. You simply put them in the box in a catch-22 and say, "We don't have the money'. When it comes time to give you any change any benefit, any increase whether you deserve it or not. You turn right away and take acre money away from them, time and time again. And the Governor said he was going to borrow or take. I like Representative Reilly's term, take. Cause you are taking. It's not borrowing. Cause you and I know they're never going to get this back. It's not going to be added back ever. Not tomorrow, not the next day. We may deal with the question of a 100% paycut or less next fiscal year and the next fiscal year, but we're not going to give this money back. So, Representative Reilly, you're right. We're not borrowing, we're taking. We're taking again for the third time. Three years we took them down from 100% to 75% a payout. Then we took them down to 70 the next year, then to 62 1/2. Now we're going to take them down to 51%. If you keep carrying this as far as you can, you can continue to get up on this floor and say, 'Regardless of the value, regardless of the equity of any benefit change 55 29th legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE April 13, 1983 ever, the money is not there. And you can really have it both ways. We have a problem with revenue. We have a shortfall. Nobody argues that. But what they argue on this, as Representative Terzich did, that it's not equitable. They continue to take cut of the same pocket over, and cver, and over again. To take especially from the pocket that now needs it mcst. I don't see how you can stand here and continually argue against every benefit increase in some cases by some Members and say on the other hand, it's because the money is not there, when you're the ones that want to take the money on one hand and deny the benefits on the cther. And that's nct fair to the annuitants of this state in any way, shape or form. We can find the money. They're always to find the money. The Governor created this situation. He ran in 1982, telling us we didn't have a problem and now we do. He ran telling us he wouldn't borrow again, and now we are. Not once, but three times. This is damned unfair to those people. Sc, get up with the violins about the benefits next week or next month and talk about the cuts. You're making the cuts. We're not making the cuts. This is unfair to those people, highly unfair. It couldn't be any more unfair than you're proposing it. And you're also trying to take money and put into the state agency and a facility, when at the same time you're taking it out of the hands of retarded kids in local communities and developmental centers. And that's unfair, toc, and this ought to go down to a screaming defeat. Cut it any way you want to."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Ebbesen."

Ebbesen

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the last Representative, Stuffle, is one those we all who know who carries a lot of the legislation involved in increased benefits, which probably promotes the reason for 56 29th Legislative Day STATE OF IIIINGIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE April 13, 1983 having to fund. Take the money from the General Revenue Fund, all that legislation, along with Representative Terzich. I've been here ten years and watched pension Bills go through here, add on benefits when the foundation is falling apart. And someday, somebody is going to have to pay the piper. Now this is nothing new we're talking about here today. You gc back 30-some years when these pension systems were put together, and we all know that the employees are 100% funded, the employees, the employer under every administration, Republican and Democrat, the Executive Eranch, whatever, with those budgets. The employer, which is State Government Internal Revenue, have used thcse dollars elsewhere. And it's true we went from dollar for dollar match, 100% down to 75, then to 65, 62 1/2. And this means it's 51%. Where are we going to stop? We had legislation here last year, the prudent man, which by a quirk of fate, I guess and good investment, those funds now, the funded ratic has gone in ten years up to 30%...from 30% up to the 50% level, which is a surprise to most of us, but it's been based on the generation of good investments, especially in the last couple of years and high interest rates from those investments. But, true, we're not borrowing this money. We're just putting in less. And to me, if it means putting in $85,000,000 less to help along...coupled with the borrowing on a short-term basis, to help this state over a firancial crisis, I think it's a thing that all of us should lock at, a very reasonable practical solution. And then when things turn around and the General Revenue Fund is generating more revenue, then we can increase these contributions back up where they belong, where they've been in the past. Eut for either Representative Terzich or Representative Stuffle to get up and say that you know, 'This is this Governor, his 57 29th Legislative Day responsibility. STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 He created this'. For 30 some years, it's been the same thing. This is nothing more than one more year in which we're doing it, only we're doing it with a little bit more severity. And I would encourage everyone to support the Amendment."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Hoffman." Hoffman "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, when I came to the General Assembly in 1967, the Downstate Teachers' Pension System, which is a pension system in which I have a particular interest, was funded at 28%. Since that time, the funding level has increased to the point where it exceeds 50% of level judged more than adequate by most reasonable and responsible people in the field. Of course, it's better if it is just funded at higher level. But, nevertheless, today we're faced with this... some rather difficult alternatives. And from what I hear from speakers from the other side of the aisle, they would prefer to reduce the pension or increase the liability someplace else other than in the pension system. It's my understanding that at this point in time, there's a recognition on the part of the folks who are involved in this, that there may need to be some more discussion. And for that reason, Mr. Speaker, I will terminate my remarks at this time. Thank you."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Reilly."

Reilly

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With reluctance, I'm going to ask to take this out of the record at this time. On the one hand, a lot of people say that can't vote for it, because it cuts pension funding. I doubt if very many of those people have the honesty to sign up for the income tax increase at the same time, because those are a part of the choice. Again I reiterate, it's as if somehow these funds are holding. No others are. But, with all the 58 STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 misunderstanding that there seems to be, and with the misleading statements which indicates how we're taking money away from the pensioner, which is simply a falsehood, I would ask that the Bill be taken cut of record at this time."

Speaker Madigan

"This Bill shall be taken out of the record. It would be the intention of the Chair to adjourn to Committee. Is there any further business to come before the House? The Chair recognizes Representative Jchn Lunn."

John Dunn

"For the purposes of an annnouncement, Mr. Speaker. The House Transportation Committee will be meeting today in room C-1, room C-1 of the Stratton Euilding. This is a different location from our normal Committee meeting room. So, Transportation Members please gc to rccm C-1 immediately after adjournment."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentlemen has just anncunced that the Transportation Committee will meet in room C-1, which is a change of location. Is there any further business tc сове before the House? Mr. Vinson."

Vinson

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have been subsequently advised that Representative Barnes shculd be an excused absence for the day."

Speaker Madigan

"Let the record reflect that Representative Barnes is excused. Mr. Difrima."

DiPrima

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As the Chief Sponsor of House Fill 486, I would like to have it tabled."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentlemen states that as the Frincipal Sponsor of House Bill 486, he requests leave to the table the Bill. Is there a leave? Leave is granted, the Fill is tabled. Mr. Erummer."

Brummer

"Yes. I would like to announce to all the Members of the Public Utilities Committee, that there will nc Public 59 STATE OF ILIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 Utilities Committee meeting today. It is canceled. The Sponsors, whc had Bills posted, decided not to call their Bills today. So, there will be no meeting of the Public Utilities Committee."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Terzich."

Terzich

"Mr. Speaker, Iadies and Gentlemen of the House. The Executive Committee, which is scheduled to meet at 8 a.m. tomorrow morning, in ICCm 114, will be changed to 9 a. m. That's 9 a.m., Executive Committee, ICCM 114. And all Members are urge to be there subject to the penalty of death if they're not there."

Speaker Madigan

"HI. Mulcahey."

Mulcahey

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Elementary and Secondary Education Committee will meet tomorrow morning as scheduled at 8 a..."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Greiman."

Greiman

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Icmorrow, it's regular meeting. The Committee on Assignment which reets in the Conference Room off the Corridor, will be considering House Fill 700. And any interest parties might care to join us at that time."

Speaker Madigan

"Are there any further arncuncements? Is there any further business to come before the House? The Chair recognizes Mr. Greiman for the adjournment Motion."

Greiman

"Yes Sir, Br. Speaker, giving ar. appropriate time, I move the House stand adjcurn until the hour of 12 noon tomorrow."

Speaker Madigan

"The Gentlemen moves that we stand adjcurn until 12 noon tomorrow providing 30 minutes of perfunctcry time, for the purposes of receiving Bills... introduction. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all thcse cpposed by saying 'ne'. The House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 12 noon. Mr. Giglio, you're a day late." 60 STATE OF IILINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day Giglic: April 13, 1983 evidently. I "...MI. Speaker, you didn't see my light, just want to remind the Members of the Cities and Villages Committee, that I would appreciate their attendance immediately. We're running an hour late already. And the Committee that fcllows US, the Financial Institutions Committee, is going to meet in the same room. And they'd like to have their... meeting alsc. Sc I'd urge our members to show up right away."

Speaker Madigan

"Mr. Laurino. All Committee Chairman were asked we why were still in Session, if he had announcements. Laurino."

Laurino

"Sorry,

Speaker Braun

Speaker Braun: MI Mr. Thanks all for the Speaker, but the Insurance Committee has been... shall be canceled today. notice."

Madigan

"Representative Braun, dc you have an announcement?" "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Elack tembers, I'd like to advise them of a meeting tomorrow morning in room 122A, cur favorite subjects, regarding one at 8:30 a.m., reapportionment." "A of the

O'Brien

Message from Secretary. ΜΣ. Speaker, I am House of Senate directed by to MI. Wright, inform the Representatives the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolution, the adoption of which ask concurrence of the House of wit; Senate Joint Resolution #23, instructed tc tc I an Representatives adopted by the Senate April 13, 1983. Kenneth Wright, Secretary.' Introduction and First Feading cf Fills. House Bill 1237, by Representative Ycurell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1238, Representative Yourell, a Bill for an to Act amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1239, Ycurell, a Bill for an Act tc amend the 61 29th Legislative Day STATE OF IIIINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEPATE April 13, 1983 Mobile Home Landlord and Tenart Act. First Beading of the Bill. House Bill 1240, Stuffle and, Wccdyard, a Fill for an Act to amend the State Universities Article the Pension Code. First Reading of the Eill. Ecuse Bill 1241, Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1242, Stuffle Wocdyard, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Universities Article of the Pension Code. First Feading of the Bill. House Bill 1243, Stuffle Wocdyard, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Universities Retirement System Article of the Illinois Pension Code. First Beading of the Bill. House Bill 1244, Stuffle Woodyard, a Eill fcr an Act to amend the State Universities Article of the Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Eill 1245, Ropp, a Pill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1246, Ropp, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Ccde. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1247, Stuffle Matijevich Saltsman, a Fill for an Act to amend the Municipal Code. First Feading of the Pill. House Bill 1248, Zwick, a Bill fcr an Act to amend the Illinois Welfare and Rehabilitation Services Planning Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1249, Zwick, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of the Fersonnel Code. First Reading of the Bill. 1250, Hoffman, a fill for an Act to amend the Schocl Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1251, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1252, Flinn, a Bill for an Act to release highway eas easement rights and certain described lands. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1253, Rhem Giorgi Matijevich Cullerton and DiPrima, a Bill for an Act creating the Casino Enterprise's Authorization Study Commission. First Reading of the Eill. House Bill 1254, Rhem Giorgi 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMPLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION LERATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 Matijevich - Cullerton and DiFrima, a Bill fcr an Act making an appropriation to the ordinary contingent expense of the Casinc Enterprises Authorization Study Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1255, Stuffle - Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1256, Stuffle - Hoffman Mulcahey - Nelson and Reilly, a Bill for an Act to amend the Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1257, Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1258, Mulcahey - Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Jurisprudence Act. First Feading of the Bill. House Bill 1259, Stuffle - Winchester - Mautino and Woodyard, a Bill for an Act to create the Illincis Export Council Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Eill 1260, Mautino - Stuffle - Winchester and Woodyard, a Fill for an Act to create the Illincis Export Development Act. First Reading of the Pill. House Fill 1261, Ettesen and Ycurell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropclitan Civil Center Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Eill 1262, Reilly - Hoffman, a Bill for an Act tc amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1263, Reilly, a Bill for an Act to amend the Open Meetings Act. First Reading of the Pill. House Bill 1264, Reilly, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the Psychologist Registration Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1265, Younge, a Bill fcr an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1266, Younge, a Fill for an Act to amend the Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1267, Younge, a Fill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Fill. House Fill 1268, Younge, a Fill for ar Act to create the Department of Urban Development. First Reading of the 63 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 Bill. House Bill 1269, Younge, a Bill for an Act to create the Renewable Energy Employment and Economic Development Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1270, Younge, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Industrial Development Authority Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1271, Younge, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1272, Younge, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Procurement Institute within the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1273, Younge, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the Family Resource Center at the State Community College in East St. Louis. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1274, Younge, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act concerning Public Utilities. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1275, Younge, a Bill for an Act to create the East St. Louis Riverfront Development Authority. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1276, Younge, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Capital Development Board Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1277, Younge, a Bill for an Act to create the Lincoln Homestead Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1278, Younge, a Bill for an Act to create the Metro-East Economic Development Authority Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1279, Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1280, Satterthwaite, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1281, Renan - Neff, a Bill for an Act in relation to tranportation and highways. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1282, McGann, a Bill for an Act relating to the availability of compressed air at gasoline 64 STATE CF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEFATE 29th legislative Day April 13, 1983 service stations. First Reading of the Pill. House Bill 1283, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mobile Home Local Service Tax Act. First Feading of the Fill. House Bill 1284, Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1285, Giglio, a Bill fcr an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1286, Van Duyne, a Bill for an Act to amend the Schccl Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1287, Matijevich and Gicrgi, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Uniform Anatomical Gift Act. First Reading of the Pill. House Fill 1288, Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Regional Transportation Authority Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1289, Davis, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1290, Klemm, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1291, Ropp, a Eill for an Act to amend the Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1292, Younge, a Eill fcr an Act making a supplemental appropriation to the Department cf Fublic Aid. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1293, Hoffman, a Fill for an Act to amend the Illincis Commercial Relocation cf Transporting Vehicles Law of the Illincis Vehicle Code. First Beading of the Bill. House Bill 1294, Madigan Doyle O'Connell Capparelli and leverenz, a Fill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Beading of the Bill. House Pill 1295, Barnes - Winchester Daniels and Republican Leadership, a Bill fcr an Act to amend Sections of an Act to provide the ordinary contingent expense to the Department of Mines and Minerals. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1296, Reilly Daniels Republican Leadership, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections 65 STATE OF IIIINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY ACUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 of an Act making appropriation to the crdinary contingent expense tc the Department of Fublic Aid. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1297, Reilly Daniels and Republican Leadership, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act making an appropriation of the ordinary contingent expense to the Department of Corrections. First Reading cf the Bill. House Bill 1298, Davis, a Fill fcr an Act to establish Construction Code Council. First Reading cf the Fill. Bouse Bill 1299, Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the Medical Practice Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1300, Giglic, a Pill for an Act to amend the Mechanics Lean Act. First Reading of the Eill. House Bill 1301, Pierce, a Eill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Eill. House Bill 1302, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the Coal Mining Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1303, Satterthwaite, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act tc create the State University Civil Service System. First Reading of the Bill. House Pill 1304, Farley, a Pill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1305, McPike Currie, a Bill for ar Act tc amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. First Reading of the Eill. House Bill 1306, Pangle, a Bill for an Act to amend the Highway Code. First Reading of the Fill. House Fill 1307, Homer, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain defenses based upon wental condition. First Feading of the Bill. House Bill 1308, Harris Zwick, a Eill for an Act to amend the Northeastern Illinois Flanning Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1309, Steczo - Richmond, a Bill for an Act to amend the Park District Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1310, Steczo, a fill for an Act to amend the Park District Code. First Feading of the Bill. House Bill 1311, Stec20 Keane, a Eill for an Act to amend 66 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 the Juvenile Court Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1312, Birkinbine, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1313, McPike, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Banking Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1314, Piel, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1315, Freston, a Bill for an Act to amend the Board of Governors of State Colleges and Universities Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1316, Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regency Universities Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1317, Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend the Southern Illinois University Management Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1318, Freston, a Bill for an Act to amend the University of Illinois Organization Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1319, Freston, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1320, Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend the Board of Higher Education Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1331, (sic 1321) Churchill Davis William Feterson Didrickson and Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Code of Criminal Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1322, Churchill Davis Didrickson William Feterson and Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1323, Churchill Davis Cowlishaw Hensel and William Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1331, should have been 1321, Churchill et al, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. House Bill 1324, Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1325, Churchill 67 29th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 13, 1983 Davis - Bensel - Wait and Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1326, Van Duyne, a Eill for an Act to amend the Environmental Erctection Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1327, Chlinger - Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to require prompt payment by the State of Illincis for goods or services. First Reading cf the Bill. House Eill 1328, [iPrima, a Bill for an Act to amend the Real Estate Transfer Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. House fill 1329, Slape, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers' Cccupation Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1330, Erummer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1331, Terzich, a Fill for an Act to amend the Chicago Sanitary District Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1332, Terzich - Wolf, a Bill for an Act to amend the Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1333, Terzich - Homer, a Pill for an Act to amend the State Finance Act. First Feading of the Bill. House Bill 1334, Terzich, a Fill fer an Act to amend the Chicago Sanitary District Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1335, Brummer, a Pill for an Act providing liens for services rendered by real estate brokers to sell or lessors of commercial real estate and services performed in the management of such property for the advancement cf money for the improvement thereof. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1336, Pierce, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of the Fetailers' Cccupation Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1337, Keane - Hallock, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services. First Feading of the Bill. House Bill 1338, Hawkinson - Steczo McMaster and Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFFESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 29th Legislative Day April 13, 1983 Litter Conticl Act. First Reading of the Bill. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1339, Brunner Homer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Eill 1340, Klemm, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections cf an Act to revise the law in relations to ccunties. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1341, Leverenz, a Eill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Confidentiality Act. First Reading cf the Bill. House Fill 1342, Leverenz, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Confidentiality Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1343, leverenz, a Fill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Confidentiality Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1344, Leverenz, a Fill fcr an Act to create the Veterinary Medicine and Surgery Fractice Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1345, Ktska, a Fill for an Act to amend the Fublic Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1346, C'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Budget Act. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1347, Erummer Brummer Piel, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illincis Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Fill 1348, Erummer Piel, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Cccupation and Tax and Use Tax Act. First Feading of the Bill. House Bill 1349, DiPrima, a Fill for an Act in relation to Selective Service registration. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1350, Friedrich, a Eill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Eill. House Fil1 1351, Friedrich, a Pill for an Act to arend the Revenue Act. First Reading cf the Bill. House Fill 1352, Terzich Capparelli, a Bill for an Act to create the Employee's Insurance Benefit Withholding Act. First Reading of the 69 STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEΡΑΤΕ 29th Legislative Day Bill. House Bill 1353, Bowman - Fierce - Currie and Marzuki, a Bill for an Act tc amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1354, Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1355, Mautinc - Homer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading cf the Bill. House Fill 1356, Nautino, a Fill fer an Act to amend the Illincis Municipal Retirement Fund Article of the Fension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Pill 1357, Slape, a Bill for ar Act to amend Sections of the Illincis Pension Code. First Reading of the Fill. House Bill 1358, Marzuki, a Fill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1359, Curran, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the State Salary and Annuity Withholding Act. First Feading of the Fill. House Bill 1360, Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Pill 1361, Wait, a Bill for an Act to amend the Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Eill 1362, Wait, a Fill for an Act to amend the Illincis Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1363, Breslin - Eraun, a Eill for an Act to amend the Crime Victims Compensation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Second Reading, Second Day. No further business. The House now stand adjourned." 70 2- 07/20/83 13:08 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 13, 1983 PAGE 1 HB-0055 THIRD READING PAGE 18 HB-0056 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-0257 THIRD READING PAGE 20 HB-0264 THIRD READING PAGE 29 HB-0293 THIRD READING PAGE 30 HB-0295 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 10 RB-0300 SECOND READING PAGE 14 HB-0302 THIRD READING PAGE 38 HB-0307 THIRD BEADING PAGE 39 HB-0317 THIRD READING PAGE 40 HB-0459 SECOND BEADING PAGE 11 HB-0465 SECOND READING PAGE 8 HB-0486 TABLED PAGE 59 HB-0499 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-0504 SECOND READING PAGE 8 HB-0506 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 15 HB-0517 SECOND BEADING PAGE 14 HB-0584 SECOND READING PAGE 12 HB-0609 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-0659 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-0697 SECOND BEADING PAGE 13 HB-0718 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-1199 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1200 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1201 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1202 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1203 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1204 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1205 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1206 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1207 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1208 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1209 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1210 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1211 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-1212 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-1213 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-1214 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-1215 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-1216 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-1217 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1218 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1219 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1220 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1221 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1222 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1223 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1224 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1225 FIRST READING PAGE 6 RB-1226 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1227 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1228 FIRST READING PAGE 6 RB-1229 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-12.30 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-1231 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-1232 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-1233 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-1234 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-1235 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-1236 FIRST READING PAGE 7 RB-1237 FIRST READING PAGE 61 HB-1238 FIRST READING PAGE 61 HB-1239 FIRST READING PAGE 61 HB-1240 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1241 FIRST READING PAGE 62 07/20/83 13:08 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATI DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 13, 1983 PAGE 2 HB-1242 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1243 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1244 FIRST BEADING PAGE 62 HB-1245 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1246 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1247 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1248 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1249 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1250 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1251 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1252 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1253 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1254 FIRST READING PAGE 62 HB-1255 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1256 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1257 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1258 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1259 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1260 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1261 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1262 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1263 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1264 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1265 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1266 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1267 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1268 FIRST READING PAGE 63 HB-1269 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1270 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1271 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1272 FIRST READING PAGE 64 BB-1274 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1275 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1276 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1277 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1278 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1279 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1280 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1281 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1282 FIRST READING PAGE 64 HB-1283 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1284 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1285 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1286 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1287 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1288 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1289 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1290 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1291 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1292 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1293 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1294 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1295 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1296 FIRST READING PAGE 65 HB-1297 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1298 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1299 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1300 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1301 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1302 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1303 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1304 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1305 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1306 FIRST READING PAGE 66 07/20/83 13:08 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 13, 1983 PAGE 3 HB-1307 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1308 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1309 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1310 FIRST READING PAGE 66 HB-1311 FIRST BEADING PAGE 66 HB-1312 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1313 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1314 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1315 FIRST BEADING PAGE 67 HB-1316 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1317 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1318 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1319 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1320 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1321 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1322 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1323 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1324 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1325 FIRST READING PAGE 67 HB-1326 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1327 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1328 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1329 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1330 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1331 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1332 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1333 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1334 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1335 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1336 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1337 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1338 FIRST READING PAGE 68 HB-1339 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1340 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1341 FIRST READING PAGB 69 HB-1342 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1343 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1344 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1345 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1346 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1347 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1348 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1349 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1350 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1351 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1352 FIRST READING PAGE 69 HB-1353 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1354 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1355 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1356 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1357 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1358 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1359 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1360 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1361 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1362 FIRST READING PAGE 70 HB-1363 FIRST READING PAGE 70 SB-0177 SECOND BEADING PAGE 41 SB-0177 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 59 HR-0127 TABLED PAGE 7 HR-0142 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 3 07/20/83 13:08 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 13, 1983 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MADIGAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND PAUL FLESNER PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 RECESS PAGE 37 HOUSE RECONVENES - SPEAKER MADIGAN IN CHAIR PAGE 38 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 60 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 60 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 61 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 70 PAGE 4