Illinois House Floor Debate — April 26, 1983

"The House will come to order. House will come to order. The Members will be in their seats. We will be led in prayer today by Representative McGann. Would the guests in the balcony please rise and join us in prayer?"

"Heavenly Father, we ask You to send Your shining light on this Assembly today. Give the Members the necessary wisdom to act in good conscience for the benefit of the people they serve. We ask Your continued help in giving us strength and health of mind and body, to continue on our course for the rest of this 83rd General Assembly Session. Thank you, dear God, because through You, we receive all our kindness and good."

"We will be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. 106 Members answering the Roll, a quorum is present. Committee reports."

"Representative Stuffle, Chairman from the Committee on Economic Recovery, to which the following Bill was referred, action taken April 26, 1983, reported the same back with following recommendation: 'Interim Study Calendar House Bill 969."

"Introduction and First Reading."

"House Bill 2287, Neff McAuliffe Wolf and Flinn, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2288, Tate and Vinson, a Bill for an Act to prevent improper imposition of strict tort liability for injuries or death on manufacturers or distributors of hand guns. First 1  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 Reading of the Bill."

"Recog... The Chair recognizes Representative Friedrich."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to request a one hour recess for the purpose of Republican Conference in Room 118, immediately."

"You've heard the Gentleman's request. The... there will be a Republican Conference, immediately, in Room 118. The House will stand at ease until the hour of 1:00 p.m. Representative Greiman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to read into the record the Representatives who are excused because of illness or other reasons, Representative Henry and Representative Yourell, and I'd appreciate the record showing their excused absences. Thank you Sir."

"Thank you. Representative Reilly, do you know if anyone on the Republican side has excused absences? We'll get them when we come back then. Thank you."

"Ladies and Gentleman of the House, may I have your attention please? I realize that we are at rest, right now, while the Rep... while there is a Caucus going on, but I would just like to point out, in the gallery to our left, that there are students from Morton, Illinois, which is in my district. There are 45 students, their teacher, Mrs. Bunn, and five parents, and I would like for you to welcome them to Springfield today. Thank you."

"The House will come to order. On page six, of the Calendar, under House Bills Second Reading Short Debate, appears House Bill 58. Representative Bowman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 58, a Bill for an Act limiting the types of information which may be disclosed regarding citizens and residents. Second Reading of the Bill. 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed." April 26, 1983

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Bowman, amends House Bill 58..."

"Representative Bowman on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is the Bill, and it was drafted by the Secretary of State. Amendment #2 implements the recommendations of a Special Task Force that the Secretary of State appointed, to look into the question of the proper sale and distribution of various lists that are kept within his office, such as drivers license lists and vehicle registration lists, and so forth. This was a Blue Ribbon Committee. They had testimony over several months, and they did a very fine report, and this Amendment im... implements that report, and it is supported by the Secretary of State. I urge its adoption."

"The Amendment is not printed yet."

"Can we come back to this later?#"

"Yes, we will try to come back to that later. Representative Vinson for what reason do you rise? Representative Vinson, earlier we were looking for excused absences for the Republican side of the aisle. Any time Vinson: you have those. "MI. McMaster." Representative Vinson."

"The record will show that Representative McMaster is excused. House Bill 137. Representative Terzich. Out of the record. House Bill 278. Representative Levin. Representative Levin. Out of the record. House Bill 279. Representative Levin, and 281. House Bill 395. Representative Leverenz. Representative Leverenz. Out of the record. House Bill 475. Representative Johnson. 3  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 Representative Tate did you want to take that Bill? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 475, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Farm Development Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 485. Representative McAuliffe. Bead the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 485, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Humane Care for Animals Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 685. Representative Richmond. Representative Richmond. Out of the record. House Bill 763. Representative McAuliffe. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 6... 763, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments."

"Floor Amendment #1, McAuliffe, amends House Bill 763, on page two..."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McAuliffe on Amendment #1."

"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #1 just clarifies a printer's mistake in the Bill. It doesn't change the Bill at all."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #1 be 4  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 adopted?" All those in favor signify by saying 'aye", opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Neff, amends House Bill 763, on page two, line nine..."

"Representative Neff on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2, to House Bill 763, on page two, amends... on page two, line nine, by deleting Section 11:207 and inserting in lieu thereof, Section 11:208. This was a misprint by the Legislative Council, and it should have been 11:208... 208, instead of 11:207, the Section that were amended. Just a technical Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"The Gentleman asks leave to leave House Bill 763 on the Order of Third Reading Short Debate. Is there any objections? Hearing no objections, 763 will appear on the Calendar under Third Reading Short Debate. And Representative Richmond has returned on House Bill 685. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 685, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Kankakee, Representative Pangle." 5  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983

"Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate you suspending the Rules. I'd like to introduce a group from Watseka, Illinois, the Watseka High School Student Council and their teacher, Mr. Dudley."

"If they would stand and be recognized."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like unanimous consent to return House Bill 506, which is on the Order of Third Reading, to the Order of Second, for an Amendment. Are we on that Order of Business?"

"Would you state your request again?"

"To return House Bill 506, which is on the Order of Third Reading, to the Order of Second for an Amendment. We can do it at another time, if it's not in order now."

"No, it's not in order now. We're on the Order of Second Readings."

"Okay. Thank you."

"House Bill 949. Representative Birkinbine. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 949, a Bill for an Act relating to insurance evaluation and nonforfeiture laws. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 956. Representative Leverenz. Representative Leverenz. Out of the record. House Bill 965. Representative Mautino. Representative Mautino. Out of the record. House Bill 956. Representative Leverenz, did you want us to call your Bill? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 956, a Bill for an Act to amend 6  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 Sections of the School Code and the Civil Administrative Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1071. Representative Doyle. Out of the record. House Bill 1072. Representative Doyle. Out of the record. The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Saltsman for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for an introduction. We have with us, in the balcony today, the ladies from the East Peoria Womens' Club, represented by Senator Richard Luft and myself, Representative Saltsman, the 92nd district. We appreciate having you with us."

"On page nineteen of the Calendar, under Speaker's Table Short Debate Calendar, appears HJR 26. The Clerk read the Resolution."

"House Joint Resolution 26 by Representative Matijevich - et al, relates to concerns of Illinois State Scholarship Commission. Executive Committee recommends: 'be adopted'."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, in the closing hours of last year's Session, this Legislature did something we feel now is irresponsible. We approved the move of the Illinois Scholarship Commission, and by that approval, I guess it was sort of an unwritten word, that the... that the major office of the Scholarship Commission was going to move downstate here in Springfield, and the satellite office was going to be in Chicago. Even 7  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 at that, I think what we did was not the right thing to do. And now, the state is in the very close to final negotiations of a lease, whereby the Scholarship Commission, the main office would move to Chicago. That has caused a lot of turmoil, and I believe that everybody realizes at this time, and in these dire fiscal economic straits, that we find ourselves in, that it would be highly irresponsible to move from a rental agency in Deerfield, disrupt that office, and move to another rental agency in Chicago. So therefore, I have introduced House Joint Resolution 26, which I find there is also heavy support for in the Senate, having talked to Senator Carroll and Senator Lechowitz and Senator Geo-Karis and Senator Schaffer, all of whom tell me that there is almost unanimous support in the Senate, also, that we disavow ourselves actually from such a move. House Joint Resolution 26 would show and express that the Senate... the sense of this Legislature is that we oppose that move from the Deerfield Office. The Executive Director of the Scholarship Commission vas in Committee, also three Members of the Governor's Executive Service Corp were in Committee, ready to testify that this move would be in effect, what they call, 'stupid', and we really didn't even need their testimony, because there was a Motion, which was unanimously adopted, that we adopt House Joint Resolution 26. I find nobody opposed to this Resolution at this time, but we must act swiftly, because Mr. Jordono, of the Central Services Management Agency, has said that he is waiting to finalize any lease, until he finds out what is going to happen to this Resolution. So I would urge the support of House Joint... Joint Resolution 26."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 26. On that question, the Chair 8  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Alexander."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will yield."

"Thank you. John, I'm not opposed to the House Joint Resolution, but I do have some questions I want answered. I was deluged with mail from persons, who belong to the Illinois School Scholarship Commission, in a very nasty tone. Letters were just flowing into my office, indicating that the move was being made was a patronage move, and why was that such a move made. My question is, 'Why did the original move take place in the beginning?" I was unable to answer those questions after research to find out why the Bill originally took place."

"I really think... I really think it goes back to a long sense of, oh, I don't know what resentment of the legislature of a past director, who I believe was sort of arrogant to the Legislators' concerns. I told many that we are an infor... information agency, we Legislators, and all ve try to do is get information for our constituents. And for years, we had a lot of trouble getting information from the past director. And for years, every year, or every two years, there'd be come up with a sort of a Bill, or the threat that we're going to move you, if you don't be more responsible, and eventually what happened was this move ca... comes at a time we now have a responsible Executive Director, and it's just crazy, because he has been much, much better, responsive and responsible to all of us. So I think that's how it all came about. It's just crazy."

"Thank you very kindly."

"The Lady from Lake, Representative Frederick."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise also in support of House Joint Resolution 26. It is absolutely inconceivable to me that we should spend a 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 million dollars at this time to move an agency that's functioning legitimately and carefully and prudently in its present location. I'm just hoping that all of you will vote 'yes' on this Resolution."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Peterson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, too, rise in support of this Resolution. It has bipartisan support. We feel at this time, the funds could be used much more meaningfully in other areas, possibly in Human Services, or Education. The move would not go into a state facility, the State of Illinois Building in Chicago. I urge support of this Resolution. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Keane."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The subject of the home office of the Illinois State Scholarship Commission has been a problem in higher education since they first moved to Deerfield. I can see why the Members from that area want to keep the office in that location; however, if you're a student, and you're attempting to have any kind of dialogue, other than a phone dialogue, with the people in the Illinois State Scholarship Commission, it's almost impossible to go up to Deerfield and correspond with them. Over a number of years, we have attempted to move the facility to where people, the great bulk of people can utilize it. The metropolitan area of the City of Chicago can be... the students of that area can be a lot better served by a centralized location, by merely going downtown and visiting the offices. It would reduce a great amount of work that you put in to your constitu... with your constituents in trying to clarify the problems that the constituents have with Deerfield. It's also a lot more logical to have the computer systems and the information 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 systems in Springfield and, or in Chicago, than to have them in Deerfield. What we have is we have the new Director of the Depar... Illinois State Scholarship Commission, who is officing cut of Springfield, operating a great deal of his agency out of Deerfield, rather than Springfield. There are great savings that occur. I know that it's popular for those who serve the Deerfield area to defend their... the people who work up there, and to defend the position of the agency in that location, but I think it's well established that it is not in the best interest of the great bulk of students of the State of Illinois, nor of the State, and I would ask that you oppose the Resolution."

"The Lady from Champaign, Representative Satterthwaite."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. The Sponsor of this Resolution, I believe, has very clearly stated that this whole issue arose because of a personality problem, with a previous director. The current director has been very accommodating to the legislative Membership. He has made his home in Springfield. He has a service office in Springfield. He has a service office in Chicago, and so the comments about the need to be where you can get the service, while they are well taken, they really do not come out on the side of opposition of this Resolution. You can get the service in Chicago. You can get the service out of Springfield. I think that it makes no sense for us to make this office move from Deerfield, especially in regard to the timing right now, where if they had to go ahead with the move, it would be very disruptive to them in terms of processing the applications that are already in the system. And so I would urge, along with the Sponsor of this Resolution, that we not now make a good director pay 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 for the mistakes of a bad director of the past, and I urge your support for the Resolution."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. There may very well have been great progress made by the Illinois State Scholarship Commission, in its present location in Deerfield, but great pro... progress may be measured against past history. Former Representative Sam McGrew and I were Cochairman of a Committee to look into the problems that people all around the State of Illinois were having with the Illinois State Scholarship Commission, under its previous director. I don't have to tell the more experienced Members of the Illinois General Assembly, that no one could get through to Deerfield, even Legislators. All you could get was a busy signal. You would write, and all you would get was something that the computer didn't have your application. If your application had any type of technicality, it would be kicked out and handled and processed by hand, and no one could find the application. I, certainly, do hope and from what I understand, great progress has been made at the Deerfield Office of the Illinois State Scholarship Commission; however, at this time when scholarship funds are being cut, when scholarships are more difficult to come by, when those, who can only attend our institutions of higher education with the help of a scholarship, are going to have to be more aggressive in their application process, and many of those come from the inner City of Chicago, many of them come from all around downstate Illinois, none of whom are convenient to the office in Deerfield. The headquarters of the Illinois State Scholarship Commission should not be in a suburban location in Chicago, which is remote, distant, hard to find, and inaccessable to those 12  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 who need the help from that Commission the most. The State Scholarship Commission should have its headquarters divided between the City of Chicago and Springfield, Illinois, or some convenient downstate location, so those, who need to come in and ask questions, can do so conveniently without dealing with someone anonymously over a telephone. We all know that personal contact is the best. We're going to have to be more aggressive with our constituents back home, if they are to get the few scholarships that are available, and I certainly would recommend a 'no' vote on this Resolution, to send a clear signal, that the Illinois State Scholarship Commission main office ought to be relocated."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Harris."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, many of us may remember that last year, approximately at this time, the Illinois State Scholarship Commission's computers seemed to be malfunctioning, and many students at that time suffered significant delays in the processing of their applications for benefits. This caused great hardship on many of the students. We are now asking the Illinois State Scholarship Commission to relocate its operations down to the City of Chicago: once again facing the possibility that there computer operations would be disrupted; once again facing the possibility that these students would suffer significant delays in their benefits, and I think that its totally inappropriate at this time to do this type of an action. It's also somewhat... well unconscionable that we're spending $650,000.00 or whatever the move is going to cost, to make the move at a time when the state is in sign... is in dire financial straits. Addressing myself, just briefly, to some of the previous comments by my distinguished colleagues. Talking about computer locations, you can put 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 a computer in a telephone booth, as long as you've got a telephone line going into that booth. You don't have to be located right where the... right where the heart of the action is. A computer can be set up anywhere. If indeed there are difficulties with telephone communications to the Illinois State Scholarship Office in Springfield... rather in Deerfield, rather than move the office, why don't we insist that new telephone lines be put into the offices in Deerfield. And this move should not be made, and I would recommend an 'aye' vote by all of you on this Resolution."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the previous question."

"The Gentleman has moved the previous question. The question is, 'Shall the previous question be put?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Motion carries. Representative Matijevich to close."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House, I would urge the Members to support this Resolution. The Executive Director, himself, realizes that this move at this time would be disruptive. It would not be in the interests of anybody, even one of those who is on the Governor's Executive Service Corp had said the monies that we appropriated for this move are not enough. They were commissioned by the Governor to make a study of all the attendant costs, and they admit that the monies are not enough, so I don't know of anybody... anybody who can say that this move is in the best interest of the taxpayers, and I believe that Helen Satterthwaite addressed accurately the concerns of Representative Keane, that there is a service office, but surely, in... in the area of processing the scholarships, the Deerfield Office is doing a good job. 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 It should be retained there, and I believe that overwhelmingly we must show the sense of the House that we oppose a move that would be totally inefficient in the adverse interest of the taxpayers, and I urge your 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the House Joint Resolution 26. The question is, Shall HJR be adopted?* All those in favor signify by voting 'aye, opposed vote 'no'. The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman to explain his vote."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentleman of the House, I concur with Representative Matijevich. There is no need for the office to be moved, due to the nature of its business. The location of the office isn't important. The service they provide, that is important, and for that reason Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would encourage an 'aye vote."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Pierce."

"Mr. Speaker, the 'aye' vote will save the state $900,000.00, and they're not even planning to move to the State Building, but to a fancy rental building, they're going to rent in Chicago. I don't know who owns that building, but I'll tell you this, they're going to move out of a place where they are now with... with reasonable rent. It costs $900,000.00 to move, unless we pass this Resolution. Then you'll find out they're in some building that some crony of somebody owns, and you'll be embarrassed by the move. The 'aye vote is the right one. It looks like we have it."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 98 'ayes', 12 'nos', 2 voting 'present', and House Joint Resolution 26 is adopted. On page seven, of 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 the Calendar, under House Bills Second Reading, Bil... appears House Bill 43. Representative Cullerton. Out of the record. House Bill 112. Representative Preston. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 112, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Code of Civil Procedure and the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 204. Representative Bullock. Out of the record. House Bill 2... House Bill 244. Representative Nash. Representative Nash. Out of the record. House Bill 252. Representative Levin. Out of the record. House Bill 275. Representative McGann. Out of the record. House Bill 276. Representative Levin. Out of the record. 277, Representative Levin. Out of the record. Representative Levin, you have House Bill 280, 281, 283, 284, 285 on the Calendar. You want them called? Out of the record. House Bill 312. Representative Taylor. Representative Huff. Representative Taylor, do you wish to have the Bill called? Out of the record. House Bill... House Bill 315. Representative Yourell. Out of the record. House Bill 336. Representative Preston. Do you wish to have your Bill called, Sir? Out of the record. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Huff for what purpose do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise seeking suspension of the re... posting requirements, so that House Bill 2278 can be heard in the Committee on School District Reorganization this evening."

"Representative Huff could you hold that Motion? I think we have a Motion that covers all those Bills. 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 House Bill 361. Representative Younge. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 361, a Bill for an Act giving preference to certain bidders for medical service contracts. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 394. Representative Leverenz. Out of the record. House Bill 424. Representative Bowman. Out of the record. House Bill 494. Representative Younge. Out of the record. House Bill 514. Representative Steczo. Out of the record. House Bill 536. Representative O'Connell. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 536, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments? Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative O'Connell."

"Mr. Speaker, I am the principle Sponsor of House Bill 536, and at this time I'd like leave to table this Bill."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table House Bill 536. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, leave is granted, and the Bill is tabled. House Bill 552. Representative Stuffle. Representative Stuffle. Out of the record. House Bill 561. Representative Panayotovich. Out of the record. House Bill 580. Representative Van 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 Duyne. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 580, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Will, Representative Van Duyne."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was standing here conversing with Representative Christensen, and he desires to try to put an Amendment on 580, and we hadn't finished our conversation yet, so in deference to him, one more time, this... this thing has been read twice already, this is the third time, and in deference to him I will ask you if I may have leave of the House to let that remain on Second Reading one time."

"The Gentleman asks leave for House Bill 580 to remain on Second Reading. Are there any objections? Hearing none, leave is granted. It stays on Second Reading. House Bill 582. Representative Stuffle. Out of the record. House Bill 606. Representative Jaffe. Out of the record. House Bill 619. Out of the record. 620, out of the record. House Bill 684. Representative Stuffle. Out of the record. House Bill 695. Representative Dunn. Representative John Dunn. Out of the record. House Bill 710. Representative Bullock. Out of the record. House Bill 723. Representative Levin. Out of the record. House Bill 747. Representative Capparelli. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 747, a Bill for an Act in relation to prisoners in jails and repealing Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." 18  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Speaker McPike: "Are any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments."

"No Floor Amendments."

"Has the fiscal note been filed?"

"Fiscal note has not been filed." April 26, 1983

"House Bill 747 will remain on Second Reading. House Bill 761. Representative Terzich. Out of the record. House Bill 767. Representative Matijevich. Representative Matijevich. Out of the record. House Bill 799. Representative Matijevich. Out of the record. House Bill 830. Representative Barnes. Out of the record. House Bill 869. Representative Slape. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 869, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Illinois Wage, Payment and Collection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Bullock Slape, amends House Bill 869 on page one, in line one..."

"Representative Bullock. Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to withdraw Amendment #1."

"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Slape, amends House Bill 869..."

"Representative Slape."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2, to House Bill 869, is a technical Amendment that clears up some language, and I would ask favorable... favorable vote on it now."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. The guestion is, Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?" All in favor signify by saying 'aye", opposed 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day 'no'. The April 26, 1983 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 946, Representative Klemm. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 946, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Klemm, amends House Bill 946..."

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Klemm."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Floor Amendment #1 simply adds a cap on the total amount of indirect cost that can be used in the School Public Transportation. This was asked for by the Board of Education, the State Board of Education and some of the Committee Members, and I was meeting their request, and I do ask that we move favorably on the Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 957. Representative Ropp. Out of the record. House Bill 1024. Representative Rice. Out of the record. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative McM... McGann for what reason do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, and my fellow colleagues in the Assembly, we are very happy to have in the gallery, today, the eighth 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 grade students from the Eberhart School, which is located in the Marquette Park Area in the City of Chicago. This area is shared by Speaker Madigan and myself, so I'd like to have a nice round of applause for our fine eighth grade students from Eberthart School in Chicago, Illinois."

"House Bill 1083. Representative Bowman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1083, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Civil Administrative Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading."

"Supplemental Calendar #1 is being distributed."

"House Bill 1089. Representative Hicks. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1089, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1100. Representative Giglio. Representative Giglio. Out of the record. Do you want your Bill called Mr. Giglio? House Bill 1100 on Second Reading. Mr. Giglio would you like to have your Bill read? Out of the record. House Bill 1104. Representative Levin. Out of the record. House Bill 1121. Representative Dunn. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1121, a Bill for an Act to regulate the selling, practice of fitting, dispensing and servicing of hearing aids in the State of Illinois. Second Reading 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day of the Bill.

April 26, 1983 Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." "Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1228. Representative Bowman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1228, a Bill for an Act concerning services for the blind and deaf. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Bowman, amends House Bill 1228, on page five, in line two."

"Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel for what reason do you rise?"

"A question Mr. Speaker. Has this Amendment been Bowman: distributed?"

1228 Speaker McPike: "The Amendment has not been distributed. will stay on Second Reading. Representative Bowman." "Since we've come to this... the end of this Order of Business, the Amendment House Bill 58 has now been printed and distributed. That was the first Bill on the Order of Second Reading Short Debate, if you want to go back to that, I'm ready to go with it." Speaker McPike: to "Representative Giglio on House Bill 1100. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1100, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 22  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like leave to table House Bill 1215, 1215, of which I am the principle Sponsor, and it is duplicative in nature."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table House Bill 1215. Hearing no objections, leave is granted. The Bill is tabled."

"Thank you."

"Representative Greiman on excused absences."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I wish the record would also add Representative Terzich, as an excused absence for the day."

"The record will indicate Representative Terzich excused. Representative Greiman in the Chair."

"The Order of House Bills Second Reading Short Debate. House Bill 58. Has that Am... Amendment been distributed? Mr. Clerk read the Bill."

"House Bill 58."

"Are there... are there any Amendments?"

"A Bill for an Act limiting the type of information which may be disclosed regarding citizens and residents. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Floor Amend... any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Bowman, amends House Bill 58 on page one, line two."

"Repre... Representative Bowman on House... Amendment #2." 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. This Amendment becomes the Bill. It implements..."

"Excuse me, Mr. Bowman. Representative Piel for what purpose do you rise?"

"On this side of the aisle, we have not gotten an Amendment yet, Mr. Speaker."

"The Clerk advises us that the Amendments have been distributed."

"No one over here..."

"Mr. Bowman proceed."

"Just, I have a copy of the Amendment right here."

"Representative Vinson."

"ΜΙ. Speaker, right here is the page distributing the Amendment. It has not been distributed. That's clear... standing right here. There's the stack of Amendments, right there. They haven't been distributed on this side. Now ve have a right to have those Amendments on our... on our desk. Mr. Piel has that right."

"ΜΓ... ΜΓ. Vinson, we'll take this out of the record for a few minutes more. We're going to come back Representative Bowman. I want to give them an opportunity to read those Amendments carefully. Supplemental Calendar #1. A Motions... Mr... the Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the Supplemental Calendar, under Motions, pursuant to House Rule 20 (k), I move to suspend the posting reguirements in Rule 20, in relation to the following Committees and Bills. And on a Supplemental Calendar is listed the entire list of Bills that can not be heard today. The problem atose last week. We have a requirement that before a Bill can be posted for Committee, it has to be printed. Un... because of the... the large number of Bills that were introduced on the deadline, a 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 number of these Bills, last week, had not been printed at the time of posting; therefore, in order to give everyone a fair chance to hear their Bill this week, I would remind the Assembly that next week is the deadline for Bills in Committee. In order to give everyone a fair chance to hear their Bills in Committee, because no fault of their own, their Bill was not printed, I move to suspend that portion of the Rules that would allow us to hear the Bills this afternoon, tomorrow, and Thursday. There are... obviously there's a lot of Bills here, and they are not Democratic Bills or Republican Bills. They are simply a mix of Bills. I would sa... guess by looking at the list that there are just as many Republican Bills, in here, as there are Democratic Bills, but the point is, is that each individual Member, who requested... filed their Bill on time, the Reference Bureau finally gave it to them, and they filed it in the House. They have asked that these Bills be posted and heard in Committee tomorrow. Through absolutely no reason of their own... no fault of their own, they can not hear their Bill, simply because of the enormous amount of work that had to be done in the printing of these Bills. So that in order to give everyone a fair chance, I would move to suspend the appropriate Rules, so that everyone can have a chance to hear their Bill in Committee this week. I so move."

"The Gentleman has moved to suspend Rule 20 (k). On that Motion, is there any discussion? Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Now, last week, before we got into this whole matter, the Minority Leader, Mr. Daniels, sent to the Speaker, Mr. Madigan, a letter, suggesting ways of dealing with this deadline and backlog..." 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day

"Excuse me, Mr... Mr. Vinson. Ladies and Gentleman of the House. This is a matter of some importance, as to what we will be doing for the rest of the week. Please give the Gentleman the courtesy of your attention. Mr. Vinson proceed."

"As I said Mr. Speaker, last week, before we got into this problem, the Minority Leader sent a letter to the Speaker of the House, discussing ways of trying to deal with this deadline and backlog problem. There are a number of positive ways, of dealing with it, that could have been taken at that time, and, there are a number of negative ways that that issue can be dealt with. One wrong way, of dealing with the problem, is to deny the rights of the public and the rights of the Members to see the Bills that are being posted. That's wrong. It violates every premise of an open institution, of a Democratic institution. I am somewhat surprised that you would even stoop to this level, to attempt to shove Bills through Committee. You're operating in violation of the Rules. You operated in violation of the Rules in Appropriations Committee, when you denied Mr. Reilly the right to even make a Motion, and then adjourn the Committee to avoid him having the right to offer a Motion, as a duly elected Member of this chamber. And now, you want to operate in violation of the Rules, indeed perhaps, in violation of the Constitution, by denying the right the public has to see the Bills that are going to be posted for Committee. Now you could have made that Motion last week. You choose to wait and to make it this week, and to keep everybody all over this state in suspense, as to what Bills are going to be considered in Committee this week. I think that's wrong. I don't think that's the way to operate this institution. When we raised on the floor, the problem of the violation of Mr. Reilly's 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 rights, as an individual, and in making that Botion, the rights of Mr. Ronan to have a Motion made, in response to his Bill in Committee, a Member on your side of the aisle, when we raised that, Members of your Leadership got up and approved of the extrordinary action taken. You know, Mr. Speaker, I was really amazed by that. I was amazed that they would approve of that kind of an action, because you, so often, they, so often, have critized that kind of cavalier treatment, that kind of Parliamentary disregard for rights. Now you'e trampling on another Bule. Now you seek to deny anybody the right to know what Bills will be considered in Committee ahead of time. We can carry this out through the whole Session in this fashion. I hope you won't, because it's not fair. It's not just. It's not Constitutional even. You know, ve raised the question, when we were debating the Rules in this House, of the deadlines in the Rules you purposed. Mr. Webb, specifically, tried to negotiate at length, with your Parliamentarian and Counsel, to change those deadline Rules, and you disregarded us then, and now when they present a problem, you simply want to abolish those Bules, do away with them, and to deal with Bills, as you will, in Committee. That's wrong, Mr. Speaker. You're above that. At least you ought to be above that. Every Member of this House ought to be above that. This state ought to be above that. Mr. Speaker, for those reasons, because of that impact, and the dangerous precedent being set, I now exercise my right under Rule 71(d), to divide the question on this Motion."

"We will be back to you with a ruling on your request. In the meantime, the Gentleman from Cook, Speaker Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. I rise 27  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 in support of the Motion of Representative McPike to suspend the posting requirements for the Bills, which are innumerated in this Supplemental Calendar. I would hope that none of us would be confused into thinking that this is a unique situation in the history of the House of Representatives. It is not unique. Those of us, who have been here before, have seen this situation develop before. We know that we have now passed the deadline for the Introduction of Bills. Could I have some attention, Mr. Speaker, especially from the Democratic Staff."

"It probably would be wise to give the Speaker some attention. Thank you."

"Rather than boo and hiss, I think you should listen to me, because these are your Bills. Now let me proceed. We have passed the deadline for introduction of Bills. We only have two weeks of Committee left. Either these Bills will be heard in Committee this week, or maybe next week. When the Committee Chairman posted Bills for hearing, these Bills were not yet printed. Generally there's only one printer that prints Bills for the House of Representatives. In light of the urgency of this situation, we called in two extra printers. All three printers worked through the weekend to provide that these Bills would be printed and in the Bill Room. These Bills are now printed. They can be heard this week. If they're not heard this week, then, they must be heard next week, and let me advise you that we then have a Rule, which provides that a Committee Chairman can only post 50 Bills, in one week, in a Committee. So if there are more than 50 Bills in a particular Committee, the Chairman will not be permitted to post more than those 50 Bills, and any one of these Bills on this Motion, may not make that list of 50. This is not a partisan Motion. One third of the Bills on this Motion are Republican Bills. I 28  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 am giving you the history, as to how this has happened in the past. I've explained to you the efforts that we took over the weekend to provide that Bills would be printed and available for Committee hearing this week. We're here for three days. We have all the time in the world this week to hear Bills. I suggest to you that if a Committee does not use the allotted time given to it this week because Bills vere not able to be heard because this Motion was not carried, that would be a shame for the Sponsor of the Bill, and I would simply recommend to you that when you vote on this Motion, please understand the point of the Session where we are, the logistics of the situation, and please remember if this Motion fails then you have that other Rule that provides that only 50 Bills can be posted in a Committee in a week. I would respectfully recommend you, that you support the Gentleman's Motion. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. I wonder if you, who are here from last Session, remember the chaos we had at the sim... similar time. Remember when we had the filing deadline, and we had no time really for those Bills to be heard in Committee. We spent almost an afternoon, of Members getting up and saying, "I suspend the posting notice., and nobody objected. All of those Bills went to the Committee and... although some of us didn't do that. And you know what happened to us, we never heard our Bills. I had about four Bills that were never heard, but what I'm saying is that nobody objected, because nobody wanted to obstruct your right to have your Bill being heard. I want to say, and I... I hope that other Members feel the way I do. Don't you feel a sense that every week we're coming here, somebody's getting up and let 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 us know, that they know this Rule and that Rule, so that they can kind of tie us up? Don't you think that that's really an obstruction of what we're really here for? I'm getting that feeling, and I would urge that Representative Vinson, in his Leadership role, would remove that right that he's got to divide the question. Really, I don't think any of us want you to do that, Sam. We know, you know, the Rules. We know you've got Staff to let you know what the Rules are, but also we're here to do the peoples' business, and when you do that all you're doing here is keeping us here longer, and preventing us from doing that business. Be a statesman. Let us go about the business in the... in a way that it can be done, doing it all in one Motion, rather than the way we did it last Session, everybody getting up one-by-one, and saying, "I want to suspend the Rules.", and then it was done. So let's do it the statesmanlike way, Sam. You know that the Members want to have their Bills heard. Many people have those Bills introduced because their constituents or somebody important asked them to do that work. Let's get it done, and let's quit this stuff of every week coming up on piddley this and that Rule. We know that you know the Rules, Sam. I think, I know them too. We don't have to get in that man-to-man debate every week."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, the Minority Leader, Representative Daniels."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Last week, on Thursday, I stood before you and begged for consideration of all Members of the House, Republican and Democrat, begged that we remember, when you hold Bills hostage in the Appropriation Committee, refuse to hear 34 Appropriation Bills, sponsored by 34 Members of this House, that you trample on the rights of all Members, not just 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day Republicans, but Democrats April 26, 1983 as well. It seems, to me, a little inconsistant some of the arguments we're hearing now, that because we're having difficulty suspending the Rules, the Rules, which were passed by all the Members of this House, primarily by the Democrat side, setting these deadlines, setting the deadlines two weeks from now, to tie in with the deadline in the Senate, to hear 1700 Bills, there seems to be some inconsistancy. It's all right to hold the Bills in Appropriation Committee, to deny the people of Illinois the right to have their Bills heard on very important spending matters, but on the other hand, we can suspend posting Rules and Bules that the people of Illinois have reviewed, to trample on their rights to have legislation heard, so that when we told them they couldn't have their Bills heard this week, because it wasn't posted yet or the printing requirements weren't met, that now we're going to go ahead and have them heard. So the people, throughout this state, won't have an opportunity to review the legislation. Now where's the inconsistancy, from one week to this one? It seems that it's over on the other side of the aisle. Yes, we want to do all we can to help the orderly flow of legislation, and in that regard I sent a letter to the Speaker on April 21st, outlining some alternative programs. I sent suggestions to the Speaker. I haven't had a response to those yet. Instead we have to debate this very important matter on the House floor, when... when some people, who are concerned about the public's right to know, the public's access to this legislative process, that they would set that aside in one Motion to suspend printing and posting requirements for 300 Bills. Now Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House, I, for one, will follow your Rules that you've created. I, for one, will work to protect the people of Illinois and 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 work to protect the rights of the Republican Members and the Democrat Members, and it's because of that, until we have solid information on how the hearings will be held in an orderly, efficient manner in which all the people of Illinois can listen to the testimony and the value of each and every Bill, that I intend to vote 'present' on these Motions that are before us now. When you come up with an alternative suggestion that will work, that will be effective, that will serve the people of this state, we will be willing to add our 'aye' vote, and might I suggest in closing that maybe you would want to review your posture on holding hostage the very important matters of the people of Illinois and the Appropriation Bills that to this point you refuse to hear... proper and legitimate Motions and interest of the state."

"The Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this was interesting because when I heard Representative Matijevich talk, I can recall the last couple of Sessions, the vocalness about one, who is demanding his rights wanting to follow the Rules and so forth, so John, I applaud you for wanting to be concerned, as you were last year. I hope that you are this year. The other thing too, if we change this Rule, why would it not be easier to change the Rule that allows expanding 50 Bills to be posted to whatever is left, because to me it seems far more praticle to discuss Bills that are printed next week, than it is trying to deal with Bills that aren't printed this week. And a final note, Mr. Speaker, both of you, I've had a Bill that was assigned to a Committee, January 27, that I've been trying to get posted ever since that day, and for some reason it never seems to make the posting. I welcome that opportunity to 32  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 at least have it heard. January 27, it was printed."

"Representative Mulcahey, the Gentleman from Winnebago."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move the previous question."

"Well, fortunately you don't have to make that Motion. No one is seeking any... seeking recognition. There being no further discussion, Representative McPike to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. I hope that the individual Members, sitting on the House floor, will not confuse the two different issues that have been raised, or perhaps three. Number one is, whether or not this is public information and is probably... they probably had to look a long way to come up with that. We are not suspending the printing requirements. These Bills are printed. The public is perfectly willing to read the Bill, come into Committee, and listen to the Members read the Bill, and testify and know exactly what's in the Bill. The Bill is printed. We are trying to suspend the posting requirements, SO that the individual Members, whose Bills are... could be heard in Committee this week, will have a chance to hear their Bills. The second point is, rather or not, this is comparable to whether or not Appropriation Bills will be heard in the Appropriations Committee. I don't think there's anyone on the House floor that doubts that we will have a budget this year. I don't think there's a Democratic Member or a Republican Member that for one second doubts that the Governor will eventually have his budget heard, have it voted on in Committee, and have it voted on on the House floor. State Government, beginning July 1, 1983, will have money to operate on, or we'll be back in special Session. So the Governor's 33  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 Appropriations Bills are going to be heard, sooner or later. It's all a question of exactly what time they will be heard. But the final question is whether or not the individual Members will have their Bills heard. That is really a serious question at this point. Next week is a deadline. We would prefer that all Members have the right to use every second of Committee time available this week and next week. If you want to have your Bill heard, if you think that your constituents are interested enough in the Bill for your to introduce it, and for you now to hear it, I would suggest that you support the Motion. On the other hand, if you feel that next week, with 200 Bills posted, you may be lucky enough, or rather with 200 Bills assigned to Committee, and only 50 posted, you may feel that you're in Leadership and are somehow able to strike a deal to get your Bill posted, so that you don't really care about the Freshman in the party, if you really are in that type of posture then you may not be interested in this Motion, but there... but for those of you, who may not be in that Leadership position, on the Republican side of the aisle, to strike various deals to insure that your Bills are heard, make no doubt that when 200 Bills are assigned to give in Committee next week, and only 50 are posted, make no doubt that your Bill will not be part of the deal that your legislative Leadership makes for you. The question is if you want to have your Bill heard, then support the Motion. If you don't want to have it heard, next week's the deadline, so forget about it, and if you're reelected in two years, introduce it again. That's the essence of what we're trying to do, and I would renew my Motion."

"With respect to the Parliamentary inquiry by Representative Vinson, the Chair rules that the question is divisible, pursuant to Rule 71(d). Accordingly we will 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day proceed, and we will April 26, 1983 vote... proceed to vote on these Bills. The Gentleman has moved... the Gentleman has moved for the suspension of Rule 20(k), pursuant to House Bill 1456. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye... by voting 'aye', those opposed vote "nay". Have all voted who... the... have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this Motion, there are 67 voting 'aye", none voting 'no', 45 voting 'present', and this Motion having failed to receive the appropriate... amount is hereby declared failed. The Gentleman has moved... the Gentleman... the Gentleman's moved for the suspension of the Rule 20(k), pursuant to House Bill 1477. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'nay. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk take the record. On this Motion there are 66 voting 'aye, none voting 'no', 47 voting 'present', and this Motion thereby fails. The Gentleman has moved for suspension of Rule 20 (k), pursuant to House Bill 1524. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed vote 'nay'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. Well, we picked up a vote here. On this Motion, there are 67 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 45 voting 'present', and this Motion accordingly fails. The Gentleman has moved for... suspension of Rule 20 (k), pursuant to House Bill 1582. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'nay'. Representative Leverenz for what purpose do you arise Sir?"

"Could you name the Sponsor as these Bills come up, so we know who... who we're doing this for? Well, is that a legitimate question?"

"It's a legitimate question, but an impractical possi... impossibility right now." 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 35th Legislative Day

"I see. Thank you."

"Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the record Mr. Clerk. Record Representative Leverenz aye on this Bill. On this Motion, there are 64 voting aye, 1 voting 'no', 46 voting 'present', and the Motion fails. Representative Vinson for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Well, I just wonder what's wrong with Mr. Leverenz's request?"

"Nothing, I'm going to grant Mr. Leverenz's request."

"Would you also explain what the Bill is?"

"No, I will not, Mr. Vinson. You may certainly have your Staff explain that to you. We'll let them do it slowly for you, Sir. The Gentleman moves suspension of Rule 20(k), pursuant to House Bill 1640. 1640 is sponsored by Representative Hallock. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. Representative Hallock has little confidence in his own Bill apparently. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr... yes, Representative Vinson, do you wish to explain your vote Sir?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I'm somewhat befuddled by... I have a difficult time voting on these things, because I noticed the digest on all of our desks runs out about midway through this list, and it's very difficult to know what we're voting on. Doesn't the public and don't the Members have a right to know on... on these Bills?"

"The Bill... the Motions have been appropriately put Sir, and they... you will have to follow it as quickly as you can. I know that's difficult for you. On this Motion, there are 60 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 51 voting 'present', and this Motion having failed to re... 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 receive the appropriate m... appropriate Majority is hereby declared failed. Representative McPike. The Gentleman from Madison, Representative McPike."

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ladies and Gentleman of the House. That was Representative Hallock's Bill, Republican Member of the House, that should have had a right to have his Bill heard. It lost. The next one is Representative Neff's Bill, Republican Member of this House, that should have a right to have his Bill heard. The next Bill is Representative Davis' Bill, Republican Member of the House, that should have a right to have his Bill heard, and so on down the list. I think it's unfortunate that the Republican Leadership has decided not to support their Republican Members, and give them a right to have their Bill heard in Committee this week. I would withdraw the Motion at this time."

"The Gentleman has withdrawn the Motion. Introduction and First Reading."

"House Bill 2289, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Purchasing Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2290, Madigan - et al, a Bill for an Act to amend the Industrial Development Authority Act. First Reading of the Bill."

"Agreed Resolution. Representative Giorgi. Representative Matijevich on the Adjournment Resolution."

"Mr. Speaker, the Clerk need any time? Allowing the Clerk ten minutes, so that he can complete the business of the House, I would move that we... the House stand adjourned until noon or 1:00, which is it?"

"Noon."

"Noon, tomorrow."

"The Gentleman has moved..."

"Let's hope we have a better day." 37  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983

"The Gentleman has moved that the House stand... adjourned until the hour of 12:00 tomorrow. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The House is adjourned."

"House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #2. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein. There shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejections at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 6 of Article IX of the Constitution to read as follows: Article IX, Section 6. Exemptions from property taxation. The General Assembly by law may exempt from taxation only the property of the state, units of local government and school districts and property used exclusively for veterans' organizations, agricultural and horticultural societies, and for school, patriotic, religious, cemetery and charitable purposes. The General Assembly by law may grant homestead exemptions or rent credits. Schedule. This Constitutional Amendment shall take effect upon adoption by the electors of this State. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. The Constitutional Amendment is held on Second Reading. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #13. Resolved by the House of Representative of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the State for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 2 of Article IV of the Constitution to read as follows: Article IV. The Legislature. Section 2. Composition. Legislative 38  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE April 26, 1983 Composition. (a) One Senator shall be elected from each legislative district. Immediately following each decennial redistricting, the General Assembly by law shall divide the legislative districts as equally as possible into three groups. The Senators from one group shall be elected to terms of four years, four years and two years; the Senators from the second group, for terms of four years, two years and four years; and the Senators from the third group, for terms of two years, four years and four years. The legislative districts in each group shall be distributed substantially equally over the state. (b) Each legislative district shall be divided into two representative districts. In 1984, one Representative shall be elected from each representative district for a term of two years. Prior to the 1986 general election and immediately following each decennial redistricting, the General Assembly by law shall divide the representative districts as equally as possible into three groups. Beginning with the 1986 general election, Representatives from one group shall be elected for terms of four years, four years, and two years; Representatives from the second group for... of four years, two years and four years; and Representatives from the third group, for terms of two years, four years, and four years. The Representative districts in each group shall be distributed substantially equally over the state. (c) To be eligible to serve as a Member of the General Assembly, a person must be a United States citizen, at least 21 years old, and for two years preceding his election or appointment a resident of the district to which he is... he is to represent. In the general election following a redistricting, a candidate for the General Assembly may be elected from any district, which contains a part of the district in which he resided 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 at the time of the redistricting and reelected if a resident of the new district he represents for 18 months prior to reelection. (d) Within thirty days after a vacancy occurs, it shall be filled by appointment as provided by law. If the vacancy is in a senatorial or representative district with more than twenty-eight months remaining in the term, the appointed Senator or Representative shall serve until the next general election, at which time a Senator or Representative shall be elected to serve for the remainder of the term. If the vacancy is in any other Representative or Senator... Senatorial Office, the appointment shall be for the remainder of the term. An appointee to fill a vacancy shall be a Member of the same political party as the person he succeeds. (e) No Member of the General Assembly shall receive compensation as a public officer or employee from any other governmental entity for time during which he is in attendance as a Member of the General Assembly. No Member of the General Assembly during the term for which he was elected or appointed shall be appointed to a public office which shall have been created or the compensation for which shall have been increased by the General Assembly during that term. Schedule. This Amendment takes effect upon the adoption by the electors of this State. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. The Constitutional Amendment shall be held on Second Reading. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #15. Be it resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, there sha... there shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Sections 1, 8, 9 40  35th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 26, 1983 and 10 of Article IV of the Illinois Constitution to read as follows: Article IV, Section 1. Legislature - Power and Structure. The legislative power is vested in a General Assembly consisting of a Senate and a House of Representatives elected by the electors from 59 legislative districts and 118 representative districts and in the electors as provided in this Article. Section 8. Passage of Bills. (a) The enacting clause of the laws of this state shall be: "Be it enacted by the people of the... of the State of Illinois, Representative in the General Assembly," if enacted by the General Assembly, or "Be it enacted by the people of the State of Illinois, if enacted by the electors. (b) The General Assembly shall enact laws only by Bill or measure. Bills may originate in either House, but may be amended or rejected by the other. A measure may be proposed by an initiative petition signed by a number of electors equal in number to at least 6% of the total votes cast for candidates for Governor in the preceding gubernatorial election and may not be amended by either House. An initiative petition proposing the measure shall be filed with the Secretary of State, who shall within three calendar days transmit the proposed measure to each House of the General Assembly. When so transmitted, the measure shall be deemed, introduced, and pending in each House. The procedure for determining the validity and sufficiency of the initiative petition shall be provided by law. C. No Bills shall be come a law without the concurrence of the majority of the Members elected to each House. The final passage of a Bill will be by record vote. In the Senate at the request of two Members, and in the House at the request of five Members, a record vote may be taken on any other occasion. A record vote is a vote by 'yeas' and 'nays' entered on the Journal. A measure may be 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 passed by the General Assembly in the same manners as a Bill. If a measure contain provisions, whose enactment by Bill would require the concurrence of more than the majority of the Members elected to each House, it shall not be deemed passed unless it has received the required votes. If the petition proposes the measure... propose... if the petition proposing a measure is not valid and sufficient, passage of the measure by the General Assembly shall have the same affect as if it would have been passed as a Bill. D. A Bill or measure shall be read by title on three different days in each House. A Bill and each Amendment thereto, shall be reproduced and placed on desks of each Member before final passage. A measure shall be reproduced and placed on the desks of each Member before final passage. Bills except Bills for appropriation and for the codification, revision, and rearrangement of laws, and measures shall be confined to one subject. Appropriation Bills shall be limited to the subject of appropriations. And appropriations shall not be made by measures. A Bill or a measure expressly amending the law shall set forth completely the sections amended. The Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate shall sign each Bill or measure that passes both Houses to certify that the procedural requirements for passage have been met. An initiative petition shall contain the text of the measure proposed except for the enacting clause, which shall be deemed added in accordance with the method by which the measure is enacted. An initiative petition shall specify the date of the general election at which the measure is to be submitted to the electors if not otherwise enacted. Shall have been signed by the petitioning electors not more than twenty-one months proceeding that general election. And shall be filed with the Secretary of 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day State on or before the fourth Tuesday of March next proceeding that general election. A measure proposed by a valid insufficient initiative petition shall be submitted to the electors at the general election specified in the petition unless it has been passed by the General Assembly prior to July 1, next proceeding that general election. And has becomes a law without change at least 70 days before that general election. If the majority of the Members elected to each House of the General Assembly so direct at least 63 days before the general election at which a measure is to be submitted, an alternate measure may be submitted to the electors together with such measure. An alternate measure must pertain to the same subject as the measure with which it is to be submitted. A measure or alternate measure submitted to the electors shall become law if approved by a majority of votes cast thereon, except if it is both the measure and an alternate measure submitted with it are so approved, only the one receiving greater number of affirmative votes shall become law. A measure or alternate measure which becomes law through approval by the electors shall have the same force and affect as if it were a Bill passed by a vote of three-fifths of the Members elected to each House of the General Assembly and signed by the Governor. If the provisions of two or more measures or alternate measures enacted by the electors at the same election conflict with one another, the provisions of the measure or alternate measure receiving the greater number of affirmative votes shall prevail to the extent of the conflict. Section IX. Veto Procedure. A. Each Bill passed for the General Assembly shall be presented to the Governor within thirty calendar days after its passage. Each measure passed by the General Assembly shall be presented to the Governor 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 within seven calendar days after its passage. The foregoing requirements shall be judicially enforced. If the Governor approves the Bill or measure, he shall sign it, and it shall become law. E. If the Governor does not approve the Bill, he shall veto it by returning it with his objections to the House in which it originated. If the Governor does not approve a measure, he shall veto it by returning it with his objections to the House which first passed it. Any Bill not so returned by the Governor within sixty calendar days after it is presented to him, and any measure not so returned within fifteen calendar days after it is presented to him shall become law. If recess or adjournment of the General Assembly prevents the return of the Bill or measure, the Bill or measure and the Governor's objection shall be filed with the Secretary of State within such sixty calendar days. The Secretary of State shall return the Bill or measure and objections to the appropriate House promptly upon the next meeting of the same General Assembly by which the Bill or measure can be considered. C. The House to which a Bill or measure is returned shall immediately enter the Governor's objections upon his Journal. If within fifteen calendar days after such entry that House by a record vote of three-fifths of the Members elected passed by the Bill or measure, it shall be delivered immediately to the second House. If within the fifteen calendar days after such delivery, the second House by a record vote of three-fifths of the Members elected pass the Bill or measure, it shall become law. D. The Governor may reduce or veto any item of appropriation in a Bill presented to him. Portions of a Bill not reduced or vetoed shall become law. An item vetoed shall be returned to the House in which it originated and may become law under the same manners as a vetoed Bill. An item 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 35th Legislative Day April 26, 1983 reduced in amount should be return to the House in which it originated and may be restored to its original amount in the same manner as a vetoed Bill, except that the required record vote shall be a majority of the Members elected to each House. If a reduced item is not so restored, it shall become law in the reduced amount. E. The Governor may return a Bill together with the specific recommendations for change in the House in which it originated. The Bill shall be considered in the same manner as a vetoed Bill but the specific recommendations may be accepted by a record vote of a majority of the Members elected to each House. Such Bill shall be presented again to the Governor if he certifies that such acceptance conforms to his specific recommendations, the Bill shall become law. If he does not so certify, he shall return it as a vetoed Bill to the House in which it originated. Section 10. Effective Date of Laws. The General Assembly shall provide by law for a uniform effective date for laws passed prior to July 1 of a calendar year. The General Assembly may provide for a different effective date in any law passed prior to July 1. A Bill passed after June 30 shall not become effective prior to July 1 the next calendar year unless the General Assembly by vote of three-fifths of the Members elected to each house provide for an earlier effective date. A measure or alternate measure enacted into law shall become effective on January 1 of the next calendar year following its enactment unless the measure or alternate measure provides for a later effective date. Schedule. This Amendment shall take effect upon its approval by the electors of this state. First Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. No further business, the House now stands adjourned." 45  07/26/83 09:03 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 26, 1983 PAGE 1 HB-0112 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-0361 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-0475 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-0485 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-0536 TABLED PAGE 17 HB-0580 SECOND READING PAGE 18 HB-0580 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 18 HB-0685 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-0763 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-0869 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-0946 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-0949 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-0956 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-1083 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-1089 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-1100 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1121 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-1215 TABLED PAGE 23 HB-2287 FIRST READING PAGE 1 HB-2288 FIRST READING PAGE 1 HB-2289 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-2290 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HJR-0026 ADOPTED PAGE 7 *HJR-0002 SECOND READING PAGE 38 *HJR-0013 SECOND READING PAGE 38 *HJR-0015 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MCPIKE PAGE 1 PRAYER - REPRESENTATIVE MCGANN PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 COMMITTEE REPORT PAGE 1 RECESS PAGE 2 HOUSE RECONVENES - REPRESENTATIVE MCPIKE IN CHAIR PAGE 2 REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN IN CHAIR PAGE 23 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 38 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 38 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 45