"The House shall come to order. The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. All unauthorized personnel shall leave the floor. We shall be led in prayer today by Father Anthony Tzortzis, Pastor of St. Anthony's Church in Springfield. Father Tzortzis is a guest of Representative Steve Nash. Will the guests in the gallery please rise and join us in the invocation?"
"Glory to the Father, and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit, always now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen. 0 Christ, the true light, which illumines and sanctifies every man who comes into the world. Let the light of Thy continent be shown upon all our State Representatives and all loyal officers of our government, or our country, that in it, we may behold the light inevitable and guide our footsteps, our light to the keeping of Thy commandments through the decisions of Thy all pure Mother and all the Saints. Amen."
"we shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Greiman, are there any excused absences?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Let the record show that Representative Terzich is absent on official business."
"Are there any other excused absences?"
"No, there aren't."
"Let the record show that Representative Terzich is excused. Mr. Clerk, take the record. There being 109 Members responding to the Attendance Roll Call, there is a quorum present. Mr. Clerk, what business do you have?" 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Committee Report."
"Committee Reports." April 28, 1983 Representative Steczo,
"Committee Reports. Chairman from the Committee on Counties and Townships, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bill 802; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 468, 509 and 469; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 1340 and 996; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1055. Representative Taylor, Chairman of the Committee on Elections, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 731, and 927 and 616; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 32; 'do not pass' House Bill 294 and 570. Representative Mulcahey, Chairman of the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1250, 1092, 1386, 1358 and 1119; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1116, 929, 1023 and 849; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 1143; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 1117; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1286; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 1115, 1246, 1301 and 984. Representative Van Duyne, Chairman of the Committee on Energy, Environment and Natural Resources, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bill 995, 1290 and 1269; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 811, 1138 and 884; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1338; and 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 1326. Representative Terzich, Chairman of the Committee on Executive, to which 2 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 613, 821, 1137 and 1221; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 614; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Bills 1085, 1370 and 1371; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 503; 'be adopted as amended House Resolution 90; 'tabled by Rule 26 (D)' House Bill 523; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1372; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 1794, 2188 and 2189. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do adopt' House Bills 964 and 817. That was 'do pass' House Bills 946 and 817; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 544 and 702; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 926; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 862; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 847, 936, 1341, 816 and 1625; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 970. Representative Farley, Chairman of the Committee on Labor and Commerce, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1036 and 1162; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 375, 186 and 741; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 696; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 1423. Representative Satterthwaite, Chairman of the Committee on Higher Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bill 1180 and 1369; 'do pass as amended;' House Bill 700; 'be adopted' House Resolution 162. Representative Wolf, Chairman of the Committee on Personnel and Pensions, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 3 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1412, 1159, 1405 and 1374; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1026, 1050 and 1056; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 1413, 1444, 1356; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 243, 339, 378, 388, 410, 460, 4...excuse me. 611, 617, 648, 681, 931, 1634, 1635, 1636, 1637 and 2043. Representative Domico, Chairman of the Committee on Registration and Regulation, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass as amended' House Bill 854; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 805; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 1142. Representative Pierce, Chairman of the Committee on Revenue, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 848, 1007, 1227, 1396, 1426, 1427 and 1436; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 247...'do pass as amended' House Bills 247, 1067, 1280, 1373 and 1445; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Bill 662, 1167, 1283, 1336 and 1433; 'do pass as amended Short Debate Calendar' House Bill 833 and 1463; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 979, 1395 and 1474. Representative John Dunn, Chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Motor Vehicles, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 26, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'tabled by Rule 26 (D)' House Bill 209. Representative Younge, Chairman of the...Select Committee on Urban Redevelopment, to which the following Bill was referred, action taken April 27, 1983, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass' House Bill 1275."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we're prepared to go on 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day the Calendar. recognition?" For what purpose April 28, 1983 does Mr. Tuerk seek
"Mr. Speaker and Hembers of the House, in the Speaker's gallery this morning are about 80 students from Academy Spalding in Peoria. They are down here to visit and see how State Government operates, and like to have you welcome them to the group."
"On page three of the Calendar on the Order of House Bills Second Reading Short Debate Calendar, there appears House Bill 58. Mr. Bowman, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 58, a Bill for an Act limiting the types of information by which...which may be disclosed by certain units of State and Local Government regarding Illinois citizens and residents. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Motions on Committee Amendment #1. Floor Amendment #2, Bowman, amends House Bill 58 on page one, line 2 by deleting..."
"Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 simply incorporates the same information that's in Amendment #1, plus it implements the balance of the Task Force report to the Secretary of State from his Special Advisory Committee on Release of Information. And...I believe it's noncontroversial, since it simply implements this report that vas drafted by the Secretary of State's Office. I move its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?'. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 those opposed by saying 'no". The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Is there leave to keep this Bill on the Order of Short Debate Calendar? Leave is granted. House Bill 115, Mr. Terzich. Is Mr. Terzich in the chamber? House Bill 116, Mr. Terzich. House Bill 123, 128, 129, 130, 132, 137. Let the record show that Mr. Terzich has been excused. On page four of the Calendar, House Bill 278, 279, 281. Mr. Levin, do you wish to call those Bills? Is Mr. Levin in the chamber? House Bill 395. Leverenz, do you wish to call your Bill? Is Mr. Leverenz in the chamber? House Bill 433. Mr. Preston, do you wish to call your Bill? 433? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 433, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 441, Mr. Ropp. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 441, a Bill for an Act to regulate the business of storing personal property for compensation. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Ropp, amends House Bill 441 on page one and line 1 and 7 by inserting 'eight' after 'six'."
"Mr. Ropp."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is just a technical change, a numerical change in the Bill. It changes the intent in no way." 6 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, I have no objections to...to this Amendment, but I would ask the Sponsor to...Representative Ropp, you're the Sponsor of the Amendment and the Bill?"
"Yes, Sir."
"I would ask if you could hold this on Second Reading after you adopt your Amendment, because there's need for another Amendment to it. There's a need for the word *knowingly to be..."
"This is not the one you want knowingly in."
"No, this one is...I want knowingly in this one, too."
"I don't think we need knowingly in this one."
"Well, on page ten, line 21, you have another criminal statute without a mental state, and it's not a good Bill in that fashion. So I have no opposition to your Amendment, but I would ask that you hold that on Second Reading."
"Why don't we try running with it this time?"
"Well, Mr. Speaker, I have no objection to the Gentleman's Amendment. I would just simply ask on the record for him to hold it on Second Reading."
"I don't want to hold it on secondly...I don't want to know that I'm holding it on Second Reading. I just want to keep moving it on, because this is a good solid piece of legislation for the warehouse."
"Mr. Ropp, our posture is that we are considering Amendment #1, and you have moved for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion relative to the Gentleman's Motion to adopt Amendment #1? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #1?'. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The Amendment is 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
April 28, 1983 "Mr. Ropp, there's been a request that you hold the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Do you have a response?"
"Yes, I do. I...this has been on the Calendar ample time. These Amendments could be offered, and I'm ready to move it on to Third Reading please."
"Mr. Cullerton, the Gentleman declines your request."
"Fine."
"Hr, Cullerton."
"Now I think he's going to have to ask leave to do something now?"
"I believe that you might object to his Motion to move the Bill to the Order of Third Reading, which means we could occupy ourselves a half an hour or 45 minutes on that question."
"No, no, no. It's on Third Reading, Mr. Speaker. What part of the Calendar would it be on?"
"The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading So now, Mr. Ropp, he's threatening Ropp: Short Debate Calendar. to take your Bill off the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Ropp. Mr. Ropp." "MI...Mr. Speaker, I move that the appropriate rule be suspended, and it stay on Short Debate Third Reading."
"It needs leave, and I object, Mr. Speaker."
"You need leave, and he would object to it."
"If I have to have leave, why don't...why can't I have a vote?"
"Mr. Ropp, apparently the Gentleman only wishes to offer a technical Amendment. Don't you think it would be in the interest of...expeditiously considering our work 8 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 that you just leave it on the Order of Second Reading?"
"I don't care. Let's take it off of Short Debate. We*11 move it to Third Reading."
"Alright, our posture is that the Gentleman has requested that his Bill be moved to the Order of Third Reading, and the Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. And then there is a request for leave to allow the Bill to remain on the Order of the Short Debate Calendar. There is an objection to that request for leave, and the Bill shall be put on the Regular Calendar. House Bill 506, Mr. Friedrich. Is Mr. Friedrich in the chamber? House Bill 589, Mr. Hawkinson. Is Mr. Hawkinson in the chamber? Do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 635, Representative Cowlishaw. Representative, do you wish to call your Bill? The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 721. Mr. Daniels, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Daniels, an Amendment to the Criminal Code on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 721, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"No Committee Amendments. Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 756, Mr. Pangle, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates that he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 773. Mr. Cullerton, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 773, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act relating to contractors and 9 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 materialmen's liens known as mechanics' liens. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 782. Mr. Kulas, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 782, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Third Reading. House Bill 801. Mr. Matijevich, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 801, a Bill for an Act to repeal Sections of an Act relating to the State Police. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 823. Representative Satterthwaite, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 823, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 10 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Speaker Madigan: "Are there any Floor Amendments?" April 28, 1983
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 828. Mr. Ewing, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Ewing. Mr. Ewing. Mr. Hastert, would you direct Mr. Ewing to the podium? Mr. Ewing, do you wish to call your Bill? 828. It's on page four of the Calendar at the bottom of the page. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 828, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act relating to oil, gas, coal and other surface and underground resources. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"For what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I intended to file a Motion to table Amendment #1, and that has not been...apparently has not been filed. I wonder if I can do that orally."
"The Clerk informs the Chair that there is no need for that Motion to be in writing. Mr. Ewing."
"Mr. Speaker, I'm concerned that Representative Cullerton is on the wrong Bill. We have another Bill which is on Second Reading full debate, and he has an Amendment to that. To my knowledge, he has no Amendments filed or any interest in the Amendments on this Bill."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Mr. Speaker, I believe I know what I'm doing with this Bill. This Amendment #1..."
"Possibly, Mr. Cullerton, you could talk with Mr. Ewing privately. We'll return to this Bill as soon as you have completed your conversation. On page four of the Calendar, House Bill 883. Mr. McPike, do you wish to call 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 your Bill? Mr. McPike, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 883, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Committee Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"Amendment 1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, McPike."
"Mr. McPike on Amendment #3."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 is really a technical Amendment to...to make clear exactly what we're trying to do in regards to the pilots that work for the state, and I don't think there's any opposition to the Amendment. I would move the adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?'. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 930. Mr. Hoffman, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. McPike requests leave to keep his Bill on the Order of the Short Debate Calendar. Is there leave? Leave is granted. House Bill 930, Mr. Hoffman. Is Mr. Hoffman in...Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 930, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?" April 28, 1983
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. For what purpose is Mr. McPike seeking recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could we return to 883? I would like leave of the House to return it to Second Reading to table Amendment #2. It was our intent to table Amendment #2 before the adoption of 3."
"The Chair calls House Bill 883 and places the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. On the Order of Amendment #2, the Chair recognizes Mr. McPike."
"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would move to table Amendment #2. Amendment #3 clarifies what we were trying to do."
"Fine. The Gentleman requests leave to with...to table Amendment #2. Was that Amendment adopted in the Committee, Mr. McPike? Amendment #2 was adopted in Committee, and now Mr. McPike moves to table Amendment #2. All those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Motion carries. The Amendment is tabled. Mr. Clerk, is there a need to reconsider Amendment #3? Mr. McPike, I think it advisable that we reconsider Amendment #3. So, Mr. Clerk, read Amendment #3."
"Amendment #3 to House Bill 883 amends House Bill 883 on page six by deleting line 31 and 32."
"Mr. McPike."
"Again, Mr. Speaker, Amendment #3 is a technical Amendment to clarify the intent of the Bill. I would move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of 13 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Amendment #3. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 947. And let the record show that House Bill 883 shall remain on the Order of the Short Debate Calendar. For what purpose does Mr. Tate seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, for the purpose of an introduction. I have the Macon Junior High in the balconies all up. I'd appreciate it if they would rise, and I would appreciate a warm welcome to the Macon Junior High here."
"We shall now return to House Bill 828. Mr. Ewing. Mr. Cullerton indicates that he does not wish to offer an Amendment to this Bill. Mr. Clerk, what is our posture relative to House Bill 828?"
"House Bill 828 has been read a second time. Amendment..."
"were there any Committee Amendments?"
"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"There is a Motion to table Amendment #1 by Representative Cullerton."
"Mr. Cullerton, you have filed a Motion to table Amendment #1 to House Bill 828. Do you wish to withdraw that Motion?"
"That's correct, Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. Cullerton withdraws his Motion to table. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 947, Mr. Terzich. Is Mr. Terzich in the chamber? House Bill 958. Mr. 14 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Pierce, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 958, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Code of Civil Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 960, Mr. Birkinbine. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 965. Mr. Mautino, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 965, a Bill for an Act authorizing the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to convey certain real property in the Kreiter Rehabilitation Center. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Are there any Committee Amendments?"
"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1003. Mr. Wolf, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1003, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the State Records Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1034, Mr. Terzich. House Bill 1039. Mr. Kirkland, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1039, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Intergovernmental Cooperation Act. Second 15 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1043. Mr. Curran, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1043, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1066, Mr. Steczo. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1066, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Park District Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1071. Mr. Doyle, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1071, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1072, Mr. Doyle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1072, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None." 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Third Reading. April 28, 1983 House Bill 1076, Mr. Matijevich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1076, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning community school lunch programs. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1114. Representative Didrickson, do you wish to call your Bill? 1114? The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 1158, Mr. Saltsman, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1158, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Personnel Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1171. Mr. Hannig, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1171, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1192. Representative Koehler, do yo wish to call your Bill? The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 1209, Mr. LeFlore. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"House Bill 1209, a Bill for Sections the Bill. of the Illinois Pension Code. No Committee Amendments." April 28, 1983 an Act to amend
Second Reading of Speaker Madigan: "Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On page six of the Calendar, Mr. Johnson." a clarification and I think probably a
"Just for correction of the Calendar. House Bill 1057 vas reported...sponsored by Representative Pullen Rea Reilly et al, was reported out of Committee on the Consent Calendar, and it's indexed in the Legislative Information Service as being on the Consent Calendar. And somehow on the Calendar today, it has appeared under... under the Order of House Bills Second Reading First Legislative Day. I wonder if, (a), there's an explanation, and (b), if we could simply have that restored to the Consent Calendar."
"MC. Clerk, are you prepared to respond to Mr. Johnson? Would you investigate his question and respond to Mr. Johnson? Could we return to this, Mr. Johnson?"
"Sure, sure. I just wanted to clarify it, because I think it belongs on the Consent Calendar."
"For what purpose does Mr. Friedrich seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, on the same order of business. Could we pick up 506 please? On page four."
"Mr. Friedrich, could we work our way to the bottom of the Order and come back to that?"
"Alright, fine, Sir."
"Are you prepared to respond to Mr. Johnson? Are we ready to proceed on the Calendar? Fine. On page six of the Calendar under the Order of House Bills Second 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 Reading, there appears House Bill 43. Mr. Cullerton, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 43, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1...this Bill was read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted. Amendment #2 and 3 were tabled."
"Are there any further Amendments?"
"Amendment #4, Hastert, amends House Bill 43 on page one, line 1..."
"Mr. Hastert."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly, I've talked to Representative Cullerton and Representative McPike on this Amendment. What it does, the Bill basically says we give notice when there's a sale of delinquent property. My Amendment also says in...outside of Cook County, downstate Illinois, when a township multiplier is rolled over into the permanent assessment that notice is also given at that time. Very simple Amendment, and it is an Amendment that gives notice to taxpayers."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #4. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?". All those in favor signify by saying "aye, all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 64, Mr. Terzich. House Bill 90, Mr. Ronan. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 90, a Bill for an Act to enhance governmental accountability of individuals through a policy of access to government records and information. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #...this Bill has been read 19 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 63RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 a second time previously, and Amendment #8 was adopted."
"Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 204. Mr. Bullock, do you wish to call your Bili? Mr. Bullock. House Bill 234. Representative Currie, do you wish to call your Bill? Concerning House Bill 234, the Clerk informs the Chair that a fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. We shall return to House Bill 204, Mr. Bullock. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 204, a Bill for an Act to add divisions to the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Notions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Amendment... Amendment #2, Cullerton, amends House Bill 204 as amended by House Amendment #1 with page and line number references to that Amendment on page two, line 19 and so forth."
"Mr. Cullerton on Amendment #2."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 is a technical Amendment to clarify the intent of the Sponsor who's in favor of the Amendment. It makes it clear that what we're talking about is local governmental..."
"MI. Cullerton moves for the adoption of Amendment #31. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?". All those in favor signify by saying 'aye, all those opposed by saying 'no". The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?" 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 37th Legislative Day
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Chair recognizes Representative Ropp for the purpose of an introduction."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I'm delighted again today to introduce what I consider one of the finest young people organization in the State of Illinois. These are the state FFA officers for the State of Illinois. President Rodney Morris from Champaign, Vice President Karen 'Chossee' from Nokomis, and Secretary - Treasurer 'Doyle Carr' from Wapella, and the Reporter 'Annette Wolf' from Dixon. I want to have just a... you have a Dixon supporter here. The officers statewide and the sectional officers who are located in the gallery are here for a briefing, and we're delighted to have them here today, and I'd like to have the President just make a brief comment to the House of Representatives. President Rodney."
"Thank you very much. It is certainly a pleasure and honor for us to be asked to attend your Session here today and to learn a little more about what you're involved with. We are the Future Farmers of America, a vocational student organization. We are involved with vocational education and specifically vocational agriculture, so we're tied right in with the education part in the schools. We've expanded a lot as far as agri-business, horticulture, mechanics and different things. We also have girls in now, as you can see - about 25% of our organization. I'd like to thank you for your support in past years of education and passing the premiums increased at the section fairs. We certainly appreciate that. Our thoughts are with you as you go into the next few weeks in making your decisions on the Bills and different things that are proposed. We hope that you will continue to support education as you have in 21 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 the past. It is certainly a pleasure for us to be here. Thank you very much."
"House Bill 244. Mr. Nash, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 252, Representative Levin. Is Mr. Levin on the floor? Do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 275. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 276. Representative Levin, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 276, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Condominium Property Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Committee Amendments?"
"Amendment 1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Levin, amends House Bill 276 on page four by deleting line 14 through 16 and so forth."
"Mr. Levin."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 was requested by the Illinois Home Builders, and what it simply does is to make clear that where there is a voluntary conveyance of a person's condominium unit, that there is not personal liability on the part of the person taking the conveyance."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?". All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes April 28, 1983 have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 277. Mr. Levin, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 277, a Bill for an Act in relation condominiums. to Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Committee Amendments?"
"Amendment 1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 280. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 280, a Bill for an Act..."
"The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call this Bill. House Bill 282. Mr. Levin, do you wish to call that Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 282, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Condominium Property Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Committee Amendments?"
"Amendment I was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 283. Mr. Levin, do you wish to call the Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call the Bill. House Bill 284, The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call the Bill. House Bill 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 285. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call the Bill. House Bill 312. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 315. Mr. Yourell, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 315, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Committee Amendments?"
"No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Yourell, amends House Bill..."
"Mr. Yourell."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 to House Bill 315 makes technical changes and places in the Act the years that the Commission members would take office. I move the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 315."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?". All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 336. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 338, Mr. Stuffle. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 387. Mr. McGann, do you wish to call your Bill? 24 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 387, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, by Representative McGann, amends House Bill 387 by deleting line 27 through 32 on page one and so forth."
"Mr. McGann."
"Yes, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Assembly. I rise to add this Amendment 1 to my Bill, 387, which is actually more definitive in nature, and I'd ask its approval."
"Is there any discussion? The question is, Shall the Amendment be adopted?". All those...for what purpose does Mr. Vinson seek recognition?"
"Question of the Sponsor, Mr. Speaker."
"The Gentleman indicates he will yield."
"what...how much will this new levy increase property taxes in the city, Sir?"
"This is a long-term project as far as the taxes are concerned. It goes from 1984 all the way through to January 1, 2024 in order to replace the unfunded liabilities that exist now in the Chicago Fire Department's Pension Fund, because we are unfunded to a very drastic situation there. And this is going to increase the real estate taxes. We have a...the multipliers now in effect are not sufficient to meet the normal cost plus interest on the unfunded liabilities...to fund. The multiplier of 2.23 for '81 should have been 3.44 to meet such costs."
"But do you have any idea how much money annually the new levy will raise?"
"I do not have that figure here with me."
"Thank you." 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying "no". The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 394. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call this Bill. House Bill 424. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 459. Mr. Bowman, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 459, a Bill for an Act in relation to reports required to be submitted to the General Assembly. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Bowman, amends House Bill 459 by deleting 'secretary'..."
"Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #1 is merely a technical Amendment. It was put together based on recommendations from the Enrolling and Engrossing unit, from the Legislative Reference Bureau and from the Majority Council, all of whom reviewed this legislation. It is a rather lengthy Bill. And in the original drafting, there was some errors and omissions. This Amendment, I believe, cleans up the Bill, puts it in a posture for final action. It is technical in nature and nonsubstantive, and I urge its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?'. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there 26 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 494. The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 514. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 519, Mr. Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 519, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Committee Amendments?"
"Amendment 1 adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Notions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 539. Representative Barnes, do you wish to call your Bill? The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 552. Mr. Stuffle, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 552, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #... Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 561. The Clerk informs the Chair that the fiscal note has not yet been filed; therefore, the Bill shall remain on the Order of... The Clerk corrects the Chair. The fiscal note has been filed. Mr. Panayotovich, do you wish to call your 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 580. Mr. Van Duyne, do you wish to call your Bill? Is Nr. Van Duyne in the chamber? House Bill 582, Mr. Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 582, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act regulating wages of laborers, mechanics and other workers employed in any public works. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. House Bill 606. Mr. Jaffe, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 606, a Bill for an Act to create the offensive criminal sexual assault. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #3, 4 and 5 were adopted in Committee."
"Mr. Clerk, are there any Committee Amendments?"
"Amendments 3, 4 and 5 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, Jaffe, amends House Bill 6..."
"Mr. Jaffe."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I move to table Amendment #5, because Amendment #5 was incorrect technically. So I would now move to table Amendment #5 and then adopt..."
"The Gentleman reguests leave to table Amendment #5. Is there leave? Leave is granted. Amendment #5 is tabled. Mr. Jaffe."
"Okay, now we would move to adopt Amendment #6, which is really the correct version of Amendment #5."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #6. Is there any discussion? All those in favor 28 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 of the adoption of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying "no". The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, Jaffe."
"Mr. Jaffe."
"Yeah, Amendment #7 is merely a clean-up Amendment, and it conforms this particular statute to the other criminal statutes that are affected by the new law, and it's really technical."
"For what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I don't believe that this Amendment has been printed or distributed."
"Mr. Clerk... Mr. Jaffe, the Clerk informs me that the Amendment has not been printed and distributed. So when it is printed and distributed, we shall return to the Bill. House Bill 615. Mr. Homer, do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 619. Mr. Jaffe, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 619, a Bill for an Act in relation to the closing, discontinuation, phase out, termination or significant alteration of facilities, programs, services of the Department of Children and Family Services, Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities and the Department of Rehabilitation Services of the Department of Corrections. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Committee Amendments?"
"No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Jaffe, amends House Bill 619 by inserting..." 29 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"Mr. Jaffe."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 is merely a technical Amendment that specifies when the notice is required. As the Bill was filed, it was a little vague in that area, and that merely clears up that 'vaguery' (sic - vagueness). So what I...I would move to adopt Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman moves to adopt Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? All those in favor of the adoption of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Birkinbine, amends House..."
"Mr. Birkinbine."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The...the Sponsor of this Bill has put forward this Bill..."
"For what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I would suggest that Amendment #2 is out of order. Mr. Speaker, Amendment #2 on line 3 has the words 'or strikes or work stoppages at' underlined. If you look at the title of the Bill on page three of the Bill, that language defining the Act is not underlined. This language does not refer to a specific Section, but rather it is descriptive of what the Bill does. So the Amendment is out of order in that it does underline language which is not to be underlined. It should not be underlined."
"Amendment #2 is out of order. The Amendment to the title is not in proper form."
"For what purpose does Mr. Johnson seek recognition?"
"Well, I would appreciate it if the Parliamentarian 30 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 would at least elaborate on why it's not in the proper form."
"The Parliamentarian indicates that she considers her statement to be adequate."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, I don't think you believe that either. When parliamentary inquiries are directed or points of order to the Chair, I think the Chair, so far, has followed a praiseworthy process of telling us what basis the decision is made on. All we want to do is know why it isn't in the right order. We want to be able to do it right this time or in the future."
"Mr. Johnson, the Parliamentarian has something to say."
"The Amendment inserts the words 'or...or seeks to insert the words 'or strikes or work stoppages at' into the title and underlines that language. That language should not have been underlined. It is not underlined in the original title and should not be underlined here."
"Mr. Johnson."
"Representative Birkinbine, John. I wonder if the Sponsor - it's a technical matter - could hold the Bill until at least Representative Birkinbine's had a chance to redraft an Amendment and have the issue voted up or down. Would the Sponsor agree to that?"
"Mr...Mr. Jaffe. Mr. Jaffe."
"Mr. Speaker, ordinarily I would, but it really is a spurious Amendment. He has that same Amendment on the next Bill. He'll get his shot at it on the next Bill offered. So I would want to move this particular Bill at this time."
"Alright, the...the point of order raised by Mr. Cullerton has been found to be in order, and therefore, Amendment #2 is not in order. Mr. Clerk, are there further Amendments?" 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983
"Floor Amendment #3, Jaffe, amends...
"Mr. Speaker, this is an Amendment that was recommended by LBB. All it does is changes 4.1 to 1.1. It's a technical Amendment on that. I would move its adoption."
"Is there any discussion? All those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying 'aye, all those opposed by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 620. Mr. Jaffe, do you wish to call the Bill?"
"Yes."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 620, a Bill for an Act in relation to closure, conversion and modification of state facilities. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Jaffe."
"Mr. Jaffe."
"I'm going to withdraw Amendment #1, Mr. Speaker."
"Is there leave to withdraw Amendment #1? Leave is granted. Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Birkinbine, amends House Bill 620 on page one..."
"Mr. Birkinbine."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted on the other Bill, the Sponsor of these two Bills has indicated that his concern by presenting these Bills is to prevent there being an upset in the routine, a break in the care, of people at these various institutions. Well I would suggest to the people of the floor of the House that there can be no more abrupt 32 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 and sudden and sometimes devastating break in such service and care than that which takes place by a strike or a work stoppage. In that regard, this Amendment which I add which would prohibit people from going on strike in such facilities is totally in keeping with the reasons put forward by the Sponsor of this Bill as to why he wants these Bills. And I know that everyone in the House will agree with me and certainly vote 'ayes' on this excellent Amendment."
"Mr. Johnson."
"Again, I don't want to interrupt, but as to the last Bill, we had requested and filed a request for a fiscal note on House Bill 619. The Fiscal Note Act, to my knowledge, was not complied with. We don't have a fiscal note in our file. And I'm wondering if the Bill shouldn't be back...returned back to Second Reading because of that absence. The fiscal note request was filed two or three days ago."
"On behalf of the Speaker, a fiscal note is not required, according to statute, for House Bill 619. House Bill 619 only affects notification procedures and does not in any way affect the fisc in such a way as to require a note pursuant to the Fiscal Note Act."
"For what purpose does Mr. Johnson seek recognition?"
"The Calendar carries the language *fiscal note requested'. This is the first time I can remember when we've had a fiscal note request when we'd moved it on without addressing that...that request first. Is that the precedent we're going to follow now that we find out after it gets to Third Reading whether it should have been filed or not?"
"Mr. Johnson, I...I would feel that your point 33 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 is well taken. I believe you have been addressing the question of House Bill 619."
"Yes, I have, and I realize we're on 620. But I don't think the Speaker wants to move past a Bill that's not in order."
"Pine. So... So I think that Mr. Johnson's point is well taken that the Bill should not have been moved from Second Reading to Third Reading before the question of the request for a fiscal note had been addressed; however, that question has now been addressed. We could move the Bill back to the Order of Second Reading and then render the ruling of the Chair and move it back to Third Reading if you wish. Mr. Johnson."
"Well, I think that we're concerned with more than just this Bill. I think we're concerned with the process that we're going to follow for the next two months and for the rest of your term as Speaker. And I appreciate your courtesy, and I really would like to have the Bill moved back to Second Reading, that question addressed, and then we'll go from there."
"Fine. This... House Bill 619 shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. There had been a request for a fiscal note. And, Mr. Johnson, for purposes of the record, I could simply refer to the previous remarks put into the record by the Parliamentarian as the response to that request. Mr. Johnson, would that be sufficient? Fine. And now the Bill shall be moved to the Order of...for what purpose does Mr. Vinson seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, and I particularly want to address this to you, and I want you to think about this. The Fiscal Note Act is there for the purpose of finding out what the cost will be on matters before the Legislature prior to Members voting on their final passage. Now what this particular 34 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Bill does is to say that no institution may be closed until certain things have been complied with. Now anytime you delay the closure of an institution, there is clearly an impact on state revenues...on state expenditures. I can't see how anybody could come to any other conclusion than that. And what the words of the Parliamentarian were were to say that there's no impact on cost of state expenditures. I just can't really believe you want to associate yourself with that ruling, and I wonder if you would personally take that under advisement for a while."
"Yes I will, Mr. Vinson. Thank you."
"Thank you."
"The Bill shall now be moved to the Order of Third Reading. House Bill 620. Mr. Jaffe, do you wish to call the Bill? Mr. Jaffe. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 620, a Bill for an Act in relation to closure, conversion and modification of state facilities. Second Reading of the Bill and no Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 was withdrawn. Floor Amendment #2, Birkinbine."
"Mr. Birkinbine on Amendment #2."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I mentioned a few moments ago, the concern of the Sponsor with these Bills is to prevent the abrupt closing of various institutions in the state and obviously maintaining the care of people in those institutions. I would suggest to you that there can be no more abrupt and sudden and, at times, devastating interruption of services than by a strike of the people who happen to be working there. That in that regard, this Amendment is perfectly in keeping with the intent of the Sponsor of this Bill. I cannot believe that he or any 35 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Member of this House would say that it's not right for the Governor, or the administration or the Department to somehow close an institution, and yet a work stoppage or slow down of one kind or another by any group would be permissible. Certainly this is a great deal more abrupt than any planning that the Governor or the Department might undertake in that regard. At least we get some advanced warning in that regard. So this Amendment is indeed in keeping with the intent of the Bill, and I recommend an 'aye' vote on it."
"Mr. Jaffe."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, this is clearly an anti-labor Amendment, typical of the kind that Representative Birkinbine files on practically every Bill that ever exists. It's a horrible Amendment. It is really a specious Amendment, and we should just defeat it. It requires a 60 day notice prior to a strike. I would ask Representative Birkinbine when the last time we had a strike at one of our state institutions actually were...was. But it is just a terrible Amendment, and I suggest we defeat it overwhelmingly."
"Mr. Birkinbine moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?". All those in favor of the Amendment signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 37 'ayes', 71 'nos'. The Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Amendment #3, Jaffe."
"Mr. Jaffe."
"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #3 is also a technical Amendment. 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 It clarifies that the reductions take place within a 12 month period. That was the intention, but the language was a little bit vague, so we clarified it."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. Is there any discussion? All those in favor of the Amendment signify by saying "aye, all those opposed by saying "no". The ayes* have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"There has been a request for a fiscal note relative to this Bill, and the Parliamentarian will respond to that request."
"House Bill 620 concerns the maintenance of revenue. It does not affect any increase or decrease in revenue, and therefore, a Fiscal Note Act...the Fiscal Note Act does not require the submission and filing of a fiscal note."
"Mr. Johnson."
"I'm looking at the Fiscal Note Act, Chapter 63. Where do you derive the authority of the Speaker, through the Parliamentarian, to make the ruling that you just made?"
"The rules of the House, 34 (D)..."
"That isn't my question, Madame Parliamentarian."
"Right. I...yes, I will address your question. 34 (D) referred to the applicability or inapplicability of the Fiscal Note Act. The Fiscal Note Act specifically sets up one procedure for determining whether a fiscal note is appropriate, but is not conclusive on that being the only or the comprehensive way of interpreting whether a fiscal note is required. Based on the custom in this House, the Parliamentarian is required..."
"Are you proposing that if our rules provided that the 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 37th Legislative Day Speaker could rule that an Act violated the Constitution, that the Constitution's existence in the statute wouldn't make any difference? Whatever our rules say, they are subject to what the statutes of this state provide and what the Constitution of the State of Illinois and the United States Constitution provide. And I really think when we're in a posture of having adopted a significant Act that directs itself in appropriate cases in each case to a fiscal impact on the state to allow that kind of discretion and to allow the Bill to proceed from Second to Third Reading without the consideration being given under this Act, is not what they intended in the statute. And regardless of what our rules say, I don't see anywhere in that Section or anywhere else in Chapter 63 that would give that kind of unbridled discretion to the Speaker."
"The ruling of the Parliamentarian on behalf of the Speaker does not violate the statute and is in strict conformance with our rules."
"Show me where in the statute, what's the mechanism specifically aware in Chapter 63 that sets up the mechanism for determining the applicability of the Fiscal Note Act?"
"Mr. Johnson, we'd be happy to respond to you. Possibly the best method would be to respond in writing."
"I think that to elaborate a little further, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I depart for just a minute from the question of whether this Act and what our rules do, to a matter of policy for this chamber and a matter of policy for the leadership that the Speaker's providing on these kinds of questions. When we're dealing with the economic crisis that we have in this state now, nobody is going to file frivolous fiscal note requests. I don't think anybody's suggesting that these or anything else are. Both House Bill 619 and 620 are clearly questions that have 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 economic ramifications for the State of Illinois. And I think all you need to do is to simply get that to the appropriate agency and have a fiscal note filed, satisfy the Members on both sides of the aisle as to what the economic impact would be and then lose one day and go forward. I don't see that that's any problem, and I think from the standpoint of what the Members know they're voting on, that you would want to facilitate that sort of consideration. And to make technical rulings, (a) that are incorrect and (b) that are bad policy, I don't think the direction that you want to head, Mr. Speaker. It's certainly not the direction you've taken us so far, and I wouldn't want to see you depart from the direction that you've taken us. And so I really urgently request you and/or the Parliamentarian to reconsider and to allow us on matters of this sort to have an overview of what this is going to do to the fiscal situation of the State of Illinois. I just don't think it's good policy, and I don't think you do either, and I don't think Members on either side of the aisle do."
"Mr. Vinson."
"Mr. Speaker, what...what we're dealing with here is, number one, the threshhold question of whether, if ever, the rules of the House can override a state statute. Now what you are ruling is that an ambiguous legislative rule overrides an explicit statute which embodies our concern for wasteful state expenditures and for failing to understand what those expenditures are when Bills are voted on on Third Reading. Now beyond that, you have ruled several times that when investigations and reports are called for in Resolutions, that they require 60 votes and that they do that because there is a cost that Commissions and agencies incur when they make an investigation and 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day submit a report to the Legislature. April 28, 1983 Now I submit to you that in this particular case, agencies are required to make investigations and to submit reports to the Legislature. You can't say on the one hand that investigations and reports don't cost money, and then on the other hand that they do cost money. Either investigations and investigations cost, or they don't cost. And obviously they do cost, and obviously they do cost in the instance of this Bill, and obviously we have a right to know what that cost is before we vote on this Bill, and obviously we have a repo...have a right to have a fiscal note filed that tells us what the cost is on these Bills before they're moved to Third Reading. You are putting yourself in the position of saying, first, that a legislative rule overrides a duly enacted state law passed by both Houses and signed by the Governor. And secondly, you're putting yourself in the position of saying that in the case of this particular Act and in the case of the Bill preceding this Bill, that no cost is required. No cost is imposed on State Government by responsibilities to investigate and report and by the delay...delaying the closure of state facilities. Now you know that violates common sense. You don't believe that. You ought to rule accordingly, Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. Clerk, are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"And just to reiterate, the ruling of the Chair is that there is no need for a fiscal note on this Bill. The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Greiman in the Chair."
"Where are we? On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 637, Representative Krska. The Gentleman asks to take it out of the record. 40 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 646, Representative Saltsman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 646, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 647, Representative Saltsman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 647, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Second... House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 653, Representative Hawkinson. The Gentleman wishes to proceed. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 653, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to acquisition, possession, transfer of firearms, firearm ammunition. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 655, Mr. Rea. Mr. Rea. Would you read the Clerk... would you read the Bill, Mr. 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 37th Legislative Day Clerk?"
"House Bill 655, a Bill for an Act in relation to the povers of... of conservation police officers. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. And on the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 676, Representative Pierce. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 676, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions, Mr. Clerk?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 684, Representative Stuffle. Do you wish to proceed, Sir? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 684, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Farm Development Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Stuffle - Woodyard, amends House Bill 684..."
"Froceed, Mr. Stuffle."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members, the Amendment merely puts the Bill in terms of the real estate loan limitations in place in legislation sponsored by Representative Johnson, 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day. April 28, 1983 Tate and myself. It puts the two Bills in the same position limiting to $250,000 the real estate transaction loan limitation in the Farm Development Authority Act, and I would ask for adoption of the Amendment."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 684. All those in favor signify by not...by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 695, Representative Dunn. Representative John Dunn. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 710, Representative Bullock. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 710, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Purchasing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 713, Representative Pierce. Want to go with that? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 713, a Bill for an Act relating to interest on judgments. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Johnson, amends House Bill 713 on page..."
"Representative Johnson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the Sponsor agreed to 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 the Amendment. It... this Amendment addresses itself to some of the concerns of some of the opponents of the Bill that feel that this Bill would cause increase in filings of cause of action because of the way it's worded. So this Bill simply substitutes the language 'accrual of cause of action' for the language 'filing of the law suit'."
"Is there any discussion? Representative Piel."
"Question of the Clerk, Mr. Speaker. Has this Amendment been distributed?"
"Well, we'll find out. Mr. Clerk."
"Thank you."
"Apparently it has been distributed. Is there any...is there any further discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 713. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"
"I rise to speak to the Amendment."
"For the Amendment? On the Amendment?"
"Against."
"Well, it's a little late. You turned your light on afterwards. I'm going to..."
"You haven't called the vote, Mr. Speaker. I'd ask to be heard on it."
"Well, why don't you just speak, Mr. McCracken, and we'll... let's hear you out. Come on."
"Thank you. I rise reluctantly in opposition to this. I have great respect for Representative Johnson, who is our Minority Spokesman on Judiciary. I think, however, that the Amendment causes more problems than it solves. One of the objections in Committee was that this would increase filings, because the time period would run only from the date of action by the attorney, and there was some fear of 44 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 malpractice. However, the result of this, to make the prejudgment interest run from the complaint, I think it would unduly cause...or from the cause of action. I think it would unduly...cause settlements which are not just. And I say that for this reason. Typically where this will have most application is in tort cases. In tort cases, the damages are not liquidated. They are speculative. In tort cases, oftentimes the liability is not clear. Therefore, there can be a contest as to either of those issues made in good faith. And it is going to take some time to resolve those issues in good faith. The discovery process takes a long time. The discovery process can be conducted in good faith by either side to determine whether or not, in fact, liability has been established or whether damages have been determined in a reasonable amount. Until that is done, the defendant's not in a position to make an offer on this issue. The defendant is compelled by putting the prejudgment interest date at the cause of action by making rash judgments at the risk of losing the money represented by prejudgment interest. Now, frankly, the Bill is more fair as written now. For that reason, I oppose the Amendment."
"Representative Pierce."
"Mr. Speaker, I think the previous Speaker, in his usual fair manner, did state the reasons for this Amendment, and that is it would reduce litigation, and it would take care of a problem that the Gentleman, who is now our Speaker first raised with me, and that is possible malpractice by attorneys who don't file right away. And this really removes that problem by inserting the prejudgment interests back to the time the cause of action accrued, rather than when the complaint is filed. In a spirit of bipartisan harmony with Representative Johnson, I would support his 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day Amendment #2 to my Bill, House Bill 713."
"Representative Johnson to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members. The Illinois State Medical Society, that I have significant respect for, says in their most recent publication of April 26, "In order to avoid a claim of malpractice by their own client, attorneys will file suits immediately, prior to forming a reasonable review of the facts of the case". That's one of their objections, one of their major objections. One of the major testimony in Committee was the provision with respect to having the interest accrue as of the filing, so this simply address itself in an effort to be fair to the opponents to this legislation. And that's all we're trying to do. I move... its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 713. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"I... I... I... was there, I did not hear a Roll Call requested, if there was one... I didn't see anybody join it... join in the numbers. Mr. Vinson, you're waving at me. Let us do a Roll Call, shall we? Returning again to House Bill 713. The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 713. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment, there are 64 voting 'aye', 24 voting 'nay', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 723. Representative 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 Levin. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Okay. Fine. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"Hou... House Bill 723, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"All right, Mr. Le... Are there... are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Cullerton, amends House Bill 723, on page one. in line fifteen and sixteen and so forth."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Thank... thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a technical Amendment. It changed... by changing the words, 'all earned income, except that portion that exceeds,' to, 'that portion of earned income that is.' It's a technical Amendment to get the Bill in the shape that the Sponsor intends it to be in. I would ask for its adoption."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Motion is... for the... the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 723. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed vote... signify by saying 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Motion... Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Mr. Levin, we received a fiscal note request on this Bill, so that House... the Bill will remain on Second Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 747. Representative Capparelli. Mr. Clerk, call the Bill."
"House Bill 747, a Bill for an Act in relation to prisoners in jails and repealing Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in 47 37th Legislative Day Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 749. Representative Deuchler. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 754. Representative Ewing. Mr. Clerk, read the... read the Bill."
"House Bill 754, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Amendment #1 Ewing, amends House Bill 754..."
"Mr. Ewing on Amendment #1."
"I move for the adoption of Amendment #1 to... merely adds the word, 'alternative school', early in the statute and is recommended just to clean up the language. This deals with alternative schools."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 754. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Cullerton, amends House Bill 754..."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 adds to this fine Bill of Representative Ewing. His Bill deals with alternative schools. There are alternative schools in the City of Chicago called alternative high schools, and at his 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 request, at his... at my request and he agreed, to add to this fine Bill the availability of... bringing in under the formulas, of the school aid formulas, these alternative high schools, the alternative network in the City of Chicago, and for all I know, they might be in other parts of the state. So, in the suburbs, I understand that they are... they do have alternative high schools. So, I would ask for the adoption of Amendment #2."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 754. All those in favor signify... Mr. Cullerton?"
"Mr. Speaker, apparently Amendment #3 is the correct Amendment. #2 was improperly drafted. So I would ask to withdraw Amendment #2?"
"The Gentleman is given leave to withdraw Amendment #2. Any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #3, Cullerton..."
"Mr. Cullerton proceed."
"Yes. Amendment #3 is the same as Amendment #2, which is improper... in correct order, and I would ask for the adoption of Amendment #3."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 754. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Is there further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Clerk advises me that he has information necessary to respond to Representative Johnson's inquiry, with respect to House Bill 1057. Mr. Clerk." 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983
"Representative Johnson, you are correct. The Committee report was inaccurate. I have before me a corrected Committee report showing the Bill reported as Short Debate."
"Mr. Clerk, would you read the report into the record?"
"Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 26, 1983, reported same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 1057."
"Representative Johnson."
"We're... I'm not going to sl... nit pick, but my point was that it... as I understood it, the Bill out of Committee was a Consent Calendar... bipartisan, Pullen Rea Eill."
"We'll... we'll check it, and we will be back."
"I... again, I don't want to slow it down... I... just didn't respond completely..."
"We will return. Back on the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 761. Mr. Terzich is.. we'll take that out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 767. Representative Matijevich. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 771. Representative Mautino. Mr. Clerk, read the re... Bill."
"House Bill 771, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the acquisition of the Illinois and Mississippi Channel. Second Reading of the Bill. NO Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Mautino Olson, amends House Bill 771..." 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Bepresentative Mautino." April 28, 1983
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendu... Amendment #1 to 771 is recommended by the... excuse me... city attorney of Rock Falls, the Financial Consultant Bonding Attorneys, I believe Chapmen and Cutler, as it pertains to the city's authorization for bonding for the Hydoelectric Project. Basically, all it does is to implement the name of the city, the succesors, and the lease property for the Hydroelectric Generating Plant, and I ask your favorable support."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 771. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Johnson, apparently, the Clerk has done a masterful job of investigating and finds that indeed House Bill 1057 should be on the Consent Calendar. The Chairman authenticates that, and the Clerk will appropriately receive a cor... a re... a corrected Committee report, and the records will so reflect. Thank you, Sir. 771, Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 774. Representative Levin. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 775. Mr. Stuffle. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 775, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 784. Representative McAuliffe. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 784, a Bill for an Act to repeal 51 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Sections of an Act in relation to certain Commissions and agencies of the State. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 791. Representative Richmond. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 791, a Bill for an Act relating to soil conservation agreements. Certain rea... Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 798. Representative Matijevich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 798, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to state police. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Notions?"
"A Motion to table Amendment #1 by Representative Matijevich."
"Representative Matijevich on the Motion."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Committee Amendment #1 was a technical Amendment, and then I found later that the Bill as drafted was proper, and that technical Amendment is not needed; therefore, I have the Motion to table Committee Amendment #1."
"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1. Does he have leave? Leave is hereby granted. Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day Second Reading appears House Bill 799. Representative Matijevich. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 806. Representative Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 806, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 812. Mr. Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 812, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Liquor Control Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 813. Representative Peterson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 813, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 820. Representative Bullock. Representative Bullock, 802 (sic 820). Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 820, a Bill for an Act to award state contracts in targeted areas. Second Reading of the Bill. 53 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 830. Representative Barnes. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 830, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to compensation for injuries resulting from mandatory immunization. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Barnes."
"Representative Barnes."
"Well, Mr. Chairman or Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentleman of the House. I noticed after I managed to the Bill out of Committee that it had some technical problems, so I'm addressing those technical problems in this Amendment. It addresses the problems that the Comptroller had by removing the creation of special fund and the reference to a transfer from the general revenue fund. It also address the other concerns raised in the Human Services Committee regarding the language. It provides for compensation to injured parties by changing the words, 'shall be entitled to', to, 'shall be en... eligible to receive', and I would ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 830. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments." 54 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 872. Representative Bowman. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill... House Bill 925. Representative Friedrich. Read the Bill."
"House Bill 925, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Housing Development Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Klemm, amends House Bill 925, on page one, line one."
"Representative Klemm."
"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Amendment #1 simply would end up having the Illinois Housing Development Authority come before the General Assembly on some of their administrative operations and employee's salaries. The reason this Amendment is being suggested is because I don't know if you've had many dealings with Illinois Housing Development Authority in the past, but they, probably, in my estimation, have been one of the most arrogant, most unresponsive organizations and groups in State Government. It seems to me, when I would call and have my constituents call and are concerned about hearing dates, meeting dates, we were told false information and find out that everything had taken place, so that people can't be there. That something's wrong with an organization like that. Last year on the Executive Committee, we formed a Subcommittee to review some of the operations and the procedures and practices. I understand, also, that the Executive Director of that organization has since left. We have a new gentleman there that has just taken office March 1st, I believe. But as much as I may respect he and his procedures, I'm not sure if this would 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 continue, and it seems to me the General Assembly should have something to say, at least getting them across the table so that we can ask questions, so we can express our concerns about how things are going on. That's the reason for this Amendment. I think, at least, we'll get their attention and have them have an opportunity to listen to what our concerns are, and for once some of the arrogance that I find in that Department, and I do ask for a favorable vote."
"Representative Friedrich."
"Mr. Speaker, I question the germaneness of this Amendment. The original Bill had to do with the contracts of the Illinois Housing Development Authority, and this gets into another whole ball of wax, and I would like to ask... have a ruling of the Chair."
"Representative Leverenz."
"I just wondered if the Sponsor, if I'm correct, what impact to their bonding situation would your Amendment have?"
"None."
"While the Parliamentarian then is looking at that, could you just briefly state what your Amendment does again?"
"Representative Klemm."
"All right. The Amendment simply says that all expenses for the administrative operation of the office and employee's salaries shall be payable from funds appropriated by the General Assembly, and that in turn, so that we don't have a financial drain on the General Assembly, that all the monies taken in for those purposes under IHDA would go in the general treasury, so that it would be an offsetting expense. So ther... therefore, we're not transferring any dollars. In fact, I was hoping 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 the Bill would not be called, because I have a meeting with Mr. Kiley, later on, but I was forced to move on with this Amendment. I was hoping I could resolve it, but that's the reason for the Amendment. That's what it says."
"You also indicated that you're unhappy with the way they operate, or something of that nature. Is that correct?"
"You could say that even more. Yes, Sir."
"Well, if that's your problem, how does this Amendment deal with your problem with IHDA?"
"It would at least, allow IHDA, for once, to sit across an Appropriations Committee of the House to ask questions about what's going on."
"Was your Amendment reviewed at all by the Legislative Audit Commission?"
"No."
"You're aware that the Bill..."
"Why should it be?"
"... comes from the Legislative Subcommittee of the Audit Commission? I think your analysis will show that. If... if you have that meeting and you wish that the Bill was not called, wouldn't it not be simpler, at this point then, which I think your problem will be solved... Would you consider just withdrawing your Amendment?"
"Well, I certainly would if, in fact, the Bill stays on Second Reading. I have no problem with that."
"Well..."
"Well, Mr. Leverenz... you want to address... address the Bill?"
"Yes, yes, I will."
"Proceed Sir."
"Ladies and Gentleman of the House, I would ask that you vote in opposition to this Amendment. I think that it 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 would mess up the bonding, and the payment of the bonding. I don't know what the position of the bond council would be, though, the Bill comes from the Audit Commission to make sure that copies of contracts are filed as required by the Comptroller's Act, and I would ask that we would defeat this Amendment, and I'm sure the Gentleman's problems will be solved, probably before the day is out. Thank you."
"All right. Mr. Friedrich, as to your inquiry, the Parliamentarian advises me that the Amendment is germane and is within the scope of the original Bill and its goals. Representative Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I only join the previous speakers in opposing this Amendment. The Bill... House Bill 925 was one of the Legislative Audit Commission's package of Bills. The Bill is based on our findings in the Audit Commission. The... we're correcting problems that we have in the Housing area. And what we don't want, what I don't want to do is, I don't want to see the Bill become embroiled in a administrative problem, which probably could be held as one of previous speakers indicated, either through a request of the Audit Commission on the next audit, when we look at the Department or put it on another Bill, which would be more in keeping with the content. I would ask you to oppose the Amendment."
"Representative Friedrich did you want to address my ruling or merely..."
"No. No. No, Sir. I'll... I'll go with your... I'll go with your ruling. I just want to speak against the Amendment."
"Representative Friedrich."
"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is a... one of a series of Bills that... handled by the Audit Commission and the Auditor General, and I think it was... 58 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 it's to correct an oversight that happened in 1972, and it showed up in an audit. We're trying to do it. Now, whether or not Representative Klemm's Amendment has any merit, I don't really want to debate that at this point. I think if he wants to act... have this procedure for this agency, then he should introduce a Bill. That's the way we get things done around here, but I don't think I want it hung on a Bill, which is not controversial and which is needed to clean up an existing part of the statute. So I would appreciate a 'no' vote."
"Representative Pullen."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. In all due respect to the Sponsor of the Bill, I don't see why this Amendment should even be considered controversial. And I don't see either why the Legislative Audit Commission should have its legislation be so sacred that no one can attach an Amendment to it, if it is the will of the House to attach that Amendment. If.. if their legislation is supposed to remain strictly intact, perhaps, they should just become the Legislature. But, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House, in addressing the Amendment itself, I would like to remind the House that this Amendment is to require that the administrative expenses of the Illinois Housing Development Authority be appropriated. Anyone, who has voted in the past, for the appropriation of public funds by the Legislature, as this House has done many times, ought to be supporting this Amendment. It is exactly the same type of thing. The Illinois Housing Development Authority does spend a good deal of bond money, but this is not talking about the bond money. It has nothing to do with the bonds. In the hearings that we held last year, on the Illinois Housing Development Authority, we learned that where they get their administrative expense 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day money is from contractor fees. It's April 28, 1983 very interesting arrangement, when you have contractors coming before the Housing Development Authority, purposing projects, and that's how projects get on board, not because someone demonstrates a need. You have contractors coming before them purposing projects, and then those same contractors' fees pay the employees, and this is legal. The Gentleman, who is offering this Amendment, is doing so, so that there will be some direct relationship between the Legislature and the Illinois Housing Development Authority, which is an agency of this state, which ought to have to come before the Legislature to get its administrative expenses appropriated. He is not asking for the appropriation of the bond money. But why should the Illinois Housing Development Authority be so far beyond any kind of oversight by the Legislative Body, that they take in fees from contractors and pay their employees from those fees, and we don't even know how much those fees are, or how many employees they have, or what their pay is, or what their benefits are, or anything else related to the operation of the Illinois Housing Development Authority. This is... this should not be considered a controversial matter. It is simply to treat the Illinois Housing Development Authority like any other agency of State Government. I believe it is controversial that they now have some other way of operating. That they are operating on the basis of money..."
"Would the Lady bring her remarks to a close?"
"I'm... I haven't finished yet Mr. Speaker, and I haven't finished my ten minutes. I do not see why this should be considered controversial, rather the existing situation is controversial, whereby the Illinois Housing Development Authority gets money from contractors to pay for their own 60 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBВАТЕ 37th Legislative Day operations. April 28, 1983 That money should be received as state money, and it should be appropriated by the General Assembly, SO that we know what this agency is really doing. It has nothing do with their bonds. It's an entirely appropriate Amendment, and I urge 'aye' votes." to
"Representative Hastert, the Gentleman from Kendall."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm not speaking to the Bill, but I am speaking to the Amendment, and the need for this type of legislation, or at least the people in this House to be able to make a choice, a judgement. The Illinois Housing Development Authority was involved in extensive hearings last year, out of the Executive Committee. In those hearings, we found that they really are not responsible to the Legislature, or they... are they accessible very well to the Legislature. During that period of time, we've had a change of administration. We've had some promises of change, as far as their way of doing things, or modus operandi. But I think if you want to be accountable, and I've watched our illustrious Chairman of the Appropriations Committee, and they do a very well... they do a very good job, asking questions and probing, and to see that agencies and authorities are this Body. And I think it's a good accountable to Amendment, and I would support that Amendment."
"Thank you. Is there further... further discussion? There being no further discussion, Representative Klemm to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, I'm not trying to be an obstructionist in government, as you know that, but I really think there is some genuine concerns that have been expressed, and I won't belabor it. I do ask for your affirmative vote. Thank you. Can I ask for a Roll Call on 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day that?"
April 28, 1983 "Yes. The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 925. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Cullerton to explain his vote."
"Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to explain my 'no' vote. This is an interesting Amendment. I once had, Representative Klemm, I had this Amendment as a Bill, my freshman year, and it definitely does get the attention of the people from IHDA, and you haven't had your meeting yet with them, but what they're going to tell you is this, that the mere existence of this Amendment on a Bill, the mere existence means that they can not sell their bonds. The Bonding Authority says, 'If you have to go to the General Assembly, to get an appropriation to function, to open up your office, we're not going to sell the bond.' So, it effectively closes them down. I would also point out that the... that the highway... the Tollway Authority does not have an appropriation in the General Assembly, operates in the same manner as... as IHDA. I'm... I'm just telling you this, cause this is what your meeting is going to reveal with the people from IHDA. If... if you believe that IHDA's doing a good job, and you want to keep them running, or even if you think they should just be in a position to sell their bonds, you have to vote against this Amendment."
"Is there any further discussion? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment there are 61... 40 voting 'aye', 61 voting 'nay', 4 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Brummer, of the 107th District, has the honor today to have the Illinois 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day State Champions, the Lawrenceville
Lawrenceville Indians with us. Brummer: "It April 28, 1983 Tigers... Representative Brummer." the gives me a great deal of pleasure to introduce to the Illinois House the repeat champions of the small school boys basketball, the Lawrenceville from Indians, Lawrenceville Illinois. They were up here last year. At that time, I told them I expected them to be back up here this year, introducing them again, as a repeat state champions. They have won 68 games in a row. It has never been done in Illinois high school basketball, even including when Joe Lucco was coaching. He never managed to put together 68 consecutive victories. The Lawrenceville Indians have won four state championships now, since 1972, under the... under the leadership of coach Ron Felling, who is here on my left, and I... as I re... as I recall, no coach, in Illinois basketball history has ever been the... the coach of four champions and Coach Felling has done SO in eleven or twelve years, and I don't know... he's got another twenty or thirty or fifty years of coaching left, so it's hard telling how many... how many more championships he will wrap up. I would like Coach Felling introduce the individual team members, and the cheerleaders are out here in front." to
Brummer. Coach Felling: "Thank you very much, Representative Last year, I had the misfortune of leaving out two or three of our players and our coaches, so hopefully, I've got the list this year. I'd like to introduce our coaches first, Mr. George Grubbs. George, raise your hand, and Coach Rick Herdes. Now I'd like to go with our cheerleaders. First Debbie Novsack, Debbie: Michelle Rupple, Candy Wesley, Jan Hammer, Tammy Able, and my daughter, Laurie Felling." I'd like to introduce you to... also, to our Chief 'Towanka", our mascot, "Thad Hennesey, Thad. Our manager Timmy 63 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Sightsinger', Tim, and now for our players. First, Mike Shoulders'. Mike, raise your hand. 'Darren Blair, Jay Baker, Chris McKinney, Keith Brohawk, Billy Anthony, Dave Parker, Jeff Gear, Timmy Lesty, and Illinois' Mr. Basketball, Marty Simmons.' Again, I... I appreciate the invitation. It's a privilege for us to come up here and be introduced on the floor, and I want to thank the House and our Representative Mr. Rich Brummer and the Governor."
"Thank you. There's been a Resolution filed. Could we have the Resolution read please?"
"House... House Resolution 210, Brummer. Whereas, the Illinois House of Representatives, in a continuing effort to recognize the excellence of young athletes, wishes to congraduat... congratulate the Lawrenceville High School basketball team, otherwise know as the 'Indians', for capturing the Class A Basketball Championship for 1983, and ending the 1982-83 season with a finish that will long be remembered and cherished by Indian fans everywhere; and whereas, the 'Indians', in an exciting manner that became the trademark of this outstanding team, achieved high... new heights in impressive dimensions as veteran coach Ron Fleming (sic - Felling), along with his assistants, commandeered the "Indians to a blistering record of 34-0, bringing their team to the state tournament for the second year in a row, whereas, their final victory confirmed the season-long expectations of the "Indians' were a team of championship caliber, that they captured the state championship with an awesome display of cel... celerity, precision and power so overwhelming that never before has the 'Indian' victory been so easily predicted or accomplished since Custer's last stand'; and whereas, the justly deserved enthusiasm of Lawrenceville High School basketball has created by the skill and sportsmanship of a 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 championship team that has exceeded in magnificent... magnificence only by the superb coaching talents of Head Coach Ron Fleming (sic Felling), and the first coach in Illinois history basketball (sic basketball history) to win four state championships; whereas, the 'Indians' have gained statewide notoriety (sic notoriety) and legendary proportions by grabbing this year's championship laurels and obtaining the longest winning streak of any Illinois high school basketball team, with unprecedented back-to-back undefeated season culminating in successive state championships; therefore, be it resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that we congratulate Coach Ron Fleming (sic Felling) and the 'Indians' on a most successful season capped by the state championship; and that to the returning future members of the team we express our resolved confidence that they will meet with continued success; and that with the sweet mixture of deep appreciation and sadness that we bend (sic bid) a fond, if not languishing, farewell to the members who may leave this fair state and provide others with the many thrilling moments that we have known and cherished; therefore, be it resolved, and suitable copies of this Preamble and Resolution be presented to Coaches Ron Felling, Rick Herdes, George Grubbs, and others and every member of this outstanding basketball team, as a formal indication of our deep respect in which we (sic they) are held by this House and the deep pride felt by the citizens of this state."
"Representative Johnson."
"I think we should move for the adoption of the Amendment, and then I... I have one additional comment."
"The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative 65 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day Brummer moves Johnson; April 28, 1983 for the adoption of Hous... of House Resolution 210. Now Mr. Johnson." "Obviously everybody in the... in the House joins with us in wishing the team well, and congratulating particularly Mr. Simmons, who is not only the All-Stater and... All-Stater and Player of the Year, of the Champaign News Gazette and everywhere else. We all wish you the very, very best next year, but... at Indiana, but if you have two games all year where you don't have a game... a good game, we'd just as soon have that be against the University of Illinois. We're getting tired of getting beat by Indiana."
"The Gentleman asks leave for the Attendance Roll Call for the adoption of House Resolution 210. Is leave granted? Leave is hereby granted. The adoption... and the Resolution is adopted. And asks further leave that all Members of the House be added as Cosponsors. Does the Gentleman have leave? He has leave. Thank you very much. We are... we are... yes, Mr. Brookins."
"Do we get a cheer before the beautiful cheerleaders leave?"
"Well, I think not. I think we will... we know that they have great spirit. We can see it in their faces, and maybe not. How's that? We are on the Order now of athletic teams. Representative Mays has with him the Quincy Champion... Champions. Representative Mays. The Quincy Raiders, State Champs. Mr. Clerk, would you read the Resolution please? Resolution 205."
"Whereas, the Quincy Notre Dame Lady Raiders of Quincy, Ill... (sic - Illinois) captured a perfect basketball season by winning the Class A Girls' Basketball Championship by a score of 57 to 53 on Saturday, March 26, 1983; and whereas, The Lady Laiders (sic - Raiders) have 66 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 continued a remarkable season with an undefeated record of 30 wins and no losses; and whereas, this is the first time in the history of the class system in Illinois that the state championships have remained unbeaten through the entire season; and whereas, The Lady Raiders have appeared in Champaign in three years of the four years history of the class system, placing second, third and first in the State of Illinois; and whereas, the team has been inspired by coach, Marvin Smith, who has two years coaching record of 58 wins and only 4 losses; therefore, be it resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that ve extend a hearty congratulations to Coach Marvin Smith and to the State Championship, Quincy Notre Dame Lady Raiders, оп winning the Illinois Class A Basketball Championship Tournament, and that we wish the Lady Ra... Raiders continued success next season; and be it further resolved, that suitable copies of this preamble and Resolution be presented to Coach Smith and all the members of the Lady Raiders as a token of our high esteem and wishes."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. In this chamber, we always take pride in the accomplishments of our youth, and it is especially pleasing for me today to be able to present to you some of the youth from Western Illinois, who have attained an accomplishment of winning the State Championship in the Girls' Class A Basketball Tournament. Western Illinois likes to consider itself, king of basketball. I think it's probably queen of basketball this year also, and I would like to introduce Coach Marvin Smith to introduce the team members and make a few remarks."
"Thank you, Representative Mays. It is distinctly my pleasure and the girls pleasure to be able to be with 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day you here today in the House. me. April 28, 1983 This is definitely very unique to It's very unique to the girls, and it just goes as a culmination of hard work and a dedication the girls have put forth, not only this year in finishing first in the state, but last year in finishing third, and the year previous to that in finishing second. And we can only hope that next year, you know, come the '84 season, that we can come back with two consecutive state championships, just like Lawrenceville has in the Class A. So the Class A will be with Lawrenceville with the boys, and we think that will save, hopefully, Quincy Notre Dame boys will do their part, but in the same token we certainly hope that the Quincy Notre Dame Girls will be back again, and as I sincerely believe that they will be. And I know this is something they're going to shoot for, to get back to be here to see exactly what does take place in Springfield, Illinois, when everyone's working so hard all the time over here to help us all the time. So I'd like to introduce the girls to you. Okay. First, my Co-captains. Okay. Senior, Joyce Venverloth, and Kim Hessing. Okay. Another senior, Ann Rakers, Okay, the juniors, Becky Winking, Susan Wellman, Lori Vogel, April Goerlich, Kelly McKinney, and Teri Glanzman, and sophmores, Ellen Venverloth and Jane Duesterhaus, and my lone freshman on this year's team, Annette Speckhart. Okay, and again we'd like to thank you very much for your recognition of us. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays moves for the adoption of House Resolution 205, and asks leave for the Attendance Roll Call. Does the Gentleman have leave? The Gentleman having leave, the adoption is hereby... the Resolution is hereby adopted. And the Gentleman asks leave to add all Members as a Cosponsor. He has leave. Leave is hereby granted. Thank you very much 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 37th Legislative Day for joining us. Goodbye. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 932. Representative Ronan. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 944. Representative Matijevich. Mr. Clerk, read the rec..."
"House Bill 944, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the state police. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the Floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 954. Representative Ebbesen. Representative Ebbe... Out of the record. On the Or... on the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 957. Representative Ropp. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 957, a Bill for an Act in relationship to contracts. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Ropp, amends House Bill 957 on page one and so forth."
"Mr. Ropp. Mr. Ropp."
"Yes Mr. Sp... Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, my intent in this particular Bill is dealing with the conflict of interest procedures, as it pertains to governmental officials, and the original Bill only de... dealt with Commission forms of local units of government. This Amendment includes what we also want to include, which is a municipal form of government, and its... it needed to be included in the original Bill, which was omitted."
"Is there any discussion? Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the Gentleman's 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 moved for the adoption of Amendment... Amendment #1 to House Bill 957. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments?"
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 975. Representative Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 975, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to Forest Perserve Districts. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 976. Representative Yourell. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 976, a Bill for an Act in relationship to fire safety standards. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 986. Representative Preston. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 986, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to landlords and tenants. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Preston, amends House Bill 986..."
"Mr. Preston." 70 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Amendment #1 is a technical Amendment that vas purposed by the LRB to fix up some of the language of the Bill."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 986. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments?"
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1000. Representative Karpiel. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1000, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relationship to counties. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"As... there's a fiscal note. Mr. Clerk, has that been filed?"
"Fiscal note has not been filed."
"Then the... it'll stay on Second Reading, Ms. Karpiel. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1002. Representative Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1002, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relationship to counties. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1024. Representative Rice. Out of the record. Ca... ca... Mr. Brookins, are 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 you going to take that? Call the Bill. Read the Bill."
"House Bill 1024, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1032. Representative Taylor. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1032, a Bill for an Act in relationship to explosive disposal units. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Karpiel, amends House Bill 1032, by deleting lines fourteen and so forth."
"Representative Karpiel."
"Ye... yes, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 simply changes the method by which these explosive units... explosive disposal units are... where they're placed geographically. The Bill calls for that any municipality of 60,000 population or more may request to have one of these units. I felt that, and many Members of the Committee felt that, this restricted some areas of the state, which has no... which have no municipalities of 60,000 or more from ever having one of these units, and it... it had a proliferation of municipalities in one area that have municipalities of over 60,000. So this Amendment simply allows that any municipality may request one of these from the Department of Law Enforcement and, or rather the sta... and that, they then can form one of these if they are given that permission. The Sponsor is in agreement with the Amendment." 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Representative Shaw." April 28, 1983
"This was a point of personal privilege for the purpose of an announcement, Mr. Speaker. *Cena... Cenalenous* Elementary School, from my district, is up here. Would you stand up here? Stand up. Are they up there? *Cenalenous*... they up there somewhere."
"Thank you, Mr. Shaw. Representative Taylor."
"Thank... thank you, Mr. Speaker... but this is an agreed Amendment, and I have no objection to the Amendment... move for its adoption."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1032. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. We have the honor and privilege of having the really senior Member of the Illinois House of Representatives on the floor, Corneal Davis, always good to see him. Always nice to see him. Still a wonderful man. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1045. Representative Breslin. Out of the re... Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1045, a Bill for an Act to award state contracts in targeted areas. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, and 3 were adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Ropp, amends House Bill 1045 on page two and so forth."
"Representative Ropp. Representative Vinson."
"I would yield to Representative Johnson, Sir." 73 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"Well, I don't know what we're yielding on. I'm not sure Representative Ropp wants to proceed. He's not in the chamber apparently."
"Well, Mr. Speaker."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Mr. Speaker, I move that Amendment #4 be tabled. Sponsor's not... Sponsor's not in the chamber."
"The Gentleman... the Gentleman has moved that Amendment #4 be tabled. On that, Representative Johnson."
"Well, I think we should address the preliminary point of Order, that in looking at the House Calendar for today, and in looking at the Bill, as printed in...in... contained in the Bill Room, they don't even appear to be the same Bill. I guess they are but... it's dif... the Calendar provides an Act to award state contracts in targeted areas. The House Bill in full creates the Field Sanitation Act."
"We're going to look at the Bill. Mr. Johnson. The Calendar incorrectly describes the Bill in its brief, single line title; however, the Chair rules that, under our Rules, it is only the numerical appellation that each Bill carries that need be placed on the Calendar in appropriate order, and as long as it is in the appropriate Order of Business, and the number is right, and there is no question that House Bill 1045 is a Bill, which shows in the synopsis, as well as on our computer system, to be the Bill that deals with field sanitation, we will rule that we can proceed on the Order of Second Reading. Now Mr. R... we are at this point, Mr. Ropp now is in the chamber. Representative Cullerton has moved to table that, I assume he... Mr... Mr. Cullerton wishes to withdraw his Motion to table, and on Amendment #4 to House Bill 1045, Representative Ropp."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and..." 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 37th Legislative Day
"Excuse, Mr. Ropp. Perhaps, Mr. Clerk, would you reread the Bill?"
"House Bill 1045, a Bill for an Act in relationship to field sanitary conditions for agricultural workers, including toilets, drinking waters, and hand washing facilities. Second Reading of the Bill."
"And... on... on Amendment #4, Representative Ropp."
"Once again, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much, and Members of the House..."
"Excuse me, Mr. Ropp. Representative Vinson is seeking recognition. For what purpose do you rise, Sir?"
"Mr. Speaker, I would respectfully request that the Chair direct the Clerk to investigate how the Bill vas read by title on First Reading."
"We'll, we'll check into it, and let you know. Thank you Sir. Proceed, Mr. Ropp."
"Thank you again, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. And I'm real happy Representative Cullerton has withdrawn his Motion, because this is very serious matter."
"He is a man of good will. Proceed, Sir."
"Well, I know that, and I have learned a new word in the last couple of days and will hope to use that to the best of our ability. The intent of this Bill, I think, has some merit in that what I hear about the Bill is that it, one of the things..."
"Mr. Ropp direct yourself to the Amendment, not to the Bill."
"Well, it pertains to the... the Amendment will pertain to the Bill, that is it deals with sanitary conditions, both from the the employee... the worker, as well as, ultimately, the person that may be consuming the food for which those employees are handling. And we have made very serious 75 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 attempts to deal with the sanitation conditions made available for those workers, both male and female, and whoever is involved, to the tune of establishing facilities, and I understand it now about a sixth or an eighth of a mile apart, which in a 160 acre field is going to look somewhat like a checker. board. And this Amendment clearly states in essence to make it possible, so that consumers will have the best possible, safe, free from disease food in all possible manner, that should any person not use these facilities, which this Bill states must be made available, that there will be a penality of $50.00, if you do not use the facilities for hygiene, or for keeping oneself clean, or for and drinking water. And I ask your favorable support on this Amendment."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Representative Ropp just said that he learned a new word from me, and he was... hoped to use it in the future. The new word is 'knowingly', and Representative Ropp has admitted... is that he's learned that whenever you have a criminal offense or a quasi criminal offense, you should have a mental state. That mental state should be 'knowingly'. So then he proposes an Amendment... Amendment #4, and he omits the word 'knowingly' again. He forgot."
"He knowingly omitted it."
"Well, I don't know if he knowingly did it or if he... if he did it on purpose. He's trying to make a petty offense out of Section 10, which says you must use... '...use of toilet, hand washing, and drinking facilities. Agricultural workers shall use all facilities whenever needed.' So apparently if they used it when they didn't need it, they'd be guilty 'knowingly'... well, not 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 *knowingly. They could inadvertently use a toilet facility when they didn't need to, and they'd be committing a petty offense and would be subject to a $50.00 fine. So I don't know if I should talk about the merits of the... of the Bill, but I certainly... it's clear that what he's trying to do is to make the Bill absurd by putting this particular offense and... and he's doing it without putting the mental state in that he said... that this new word that he learned, SO apparently for him to learn new words, it takes a long time. We have to keep on pounding it into his head. So I would ob... object to this particular Amendment. I think it should be defeated, because it doesn't contain the new word that he thought he'd learned."
"Representative Breslin."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I, too, op... oppose this Amendment. I believe that, as Representative Cullerton, the previous speaker, has pointed out, it... it is aimed at ridiculing the... the concept of the Bill, and the people who have brought the Bill, agricultural workers. There is no other place in our statutes, either in state or in federal law, that requires that people use bathroom facilities, handwashing facilities, or water facilities, and would impose a criminal penalty plus a fine of $50.00 for not... for not using it. As I said, the obvious... under OSHA, there are no penalties at all applied against the workers under OSHA. If you violate the regulations, then... then the recourse of the employer is to reprimand you, to suspend you, to fire you, if that happens to be the... what is necessary. This... this proposal, I believe is... is completely aimed at ridiculing agricultural workers, who here only strive for the same human dignity, that you and I have, that strive for decent public health, and sanitary conditions. 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 I would seriously request that the Sponsor reconsider his Amendment and consider withdrawing it. And if not, Mr. Speaker, I would appreciate a Roll Call vote."
"Representative Pangle, the Gentleman from Kankakee."
"Yeah, I have a question on the Amendment, Mr. Speaker. Where are you going to... or does your Amendment show how this will be policed... policed, as far as, you're going to enforce this Amendment?"
"Bopp."
"Yes, Sir, Mr. Speaker. In answer to that question, in all due respects to keep this Bill as clean as possible, I understand the Sponsor has amended out a portion of inspection, and I don't recall whether that inspection dealt with making sure the facilities were tidy, but certainly if the law is going to be implemented to find out whether or not everyone of those pieces of property have these facilities scattered or located in the proper position, someone is going to have to administer and be out there to inspect. And while they're inspecting the facilities, certainly, I'm sure they would be observant and would be able to inspect those who would be in the area working."
"Don't you feel it would be a little easier to inspect the facilities rather than checking everyone's hands?"
"Well, if the concern... if the honest concern is for the preparation and the handling of food, then you're going to have to inspect that individual to make sure that his hands are clean, whenever he comes to perform service on that particular day."
"Well, according to that Amendment, then we should go down to our local cafeteria and have someone check all the hands... I'd just like to say I'm going to vote against 78 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 that Amendment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker." "Being no further discussion, Representative
Ropp to close."
"Yes, Sir, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. There are those who think this is a nonserious matter... This is serious. If we're concerned about the intent of the Bill, to make sure that those people are taken care of, and I fully support that. And if the reason is for fear that disease will be transferred through food products that they handle, all the way from strawberries to watermelons to whatever crop, to corn, sweet corn, then the same kind of care and precaution ought to be insisted upon, to make sure that those facilities are properly used after we force the people by law to set up these facilities all over. I know of a person, who happened to be the son of a former president, that undoubtedly could have used one of these facilities, and I urge your support of this Amendment, so that all of the citizens of the State of Illinois are properly taken care of, by assuring that the facilities that are established under law are properly used, so that individuals, who those facilities were set up for, just do not go out and willy-nilly not use them after they are set up by this Body, and after they've signed into law. I appreciate your favorable support."
"The Gentleman from McLean has 'knowingly' moved for the adoption of Amendment #4. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Amendment, there are 26 voting 'aye', 68 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', and this Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments." 79 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1053. Representative Peterson. Mr. Clerk, read the record... read the Bill."
"House Bill 1053, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1073. Representative Yourell. Mr. Clerk, read the... read the Bill."
"House Bill 1073, a Bill for an Act to repeal an Act to revise the law in relationship to private employment agencies and to repeal an Act herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Yourell, amends House Bill..."
"Representative Yourell. Representative Yourell."
"Yes, it just places an effective date in the Bill. I move for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1073."
"Is there any discussion? There being... there being no discussion, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1073. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye, those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments?"
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1074. Representative Yourell. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1074, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relationship to private employment agencies and to 80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 repeal an Act herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Yourell, amends House Bill 1074..."
"Representative Yourell."
"Amendment #1 does the same to House Bill 1074, as the other Amendment did to 1073."
"Any discussion? There being no discussion, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1074. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1077. Representative Curran. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1077, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to Illinois Pension Code. Second... Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments."
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1078. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Rea... Second Reading appears House Bill 1082. Representative Cullerton. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1082, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Code of Civil Procedure. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?" 81 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"No Motions filed in respect to Amendment #1."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Vinson, you made an inquiry with respect to House Bill 1045, as to whether the First Reading was done appropriately, and it was. We've checked it, and it was read into the record correctly, Sir. Thank you. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1084. Representative Nelson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Johnson, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"
"Did we move 1082?"
"Looking here on the Calendar, it's 1082... there's 1082 and then 1084."
"But 1082 we moved to Third Reading?"
"Yes, that's right."
"Okay, that's fine."
"Okay, Representative Nelson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1084, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Notions filed."
"Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1104. Representative Levin. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1118. Representative McPike. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1118, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills 1112... of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1120. Representative Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1120, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"We have received a fisc... a request for a fiscal note on House Bill 1120, so that the Bill will remain on Second Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1136. Representative Steczo. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1144. Representative McGann. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1144, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, McGann, amends House Bill 1144 on page two and so forth."
"Mr. McGann."
"Yes. Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly. I would like to amend House Bill 1144. Actually the sentence that we are having in there is just an effective date, as to when it becomes law. It takes effect upon becoming law. I'd ask for its adoption."
"Is there any discussion? The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1, to House Bill 1144. Representative Johnson." 83 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983
"I don't know how to word it other than the way we always do. Is this Amendment been printed and distributed?"
"I thought that was Representative Piel's job."
"Well, it is, but we... we trade now and then."
"Mr. Clerk, has the Amendment been distributed? No, it has not, so we'll take that out..."
"You should have... Mr. Chair... Mr. Speaker."
"Yes, Mr. McGann."
"I thought it was distributed."
"Apparently it was not, so we'll take it out of the record, Sir."
"All right, Sir."
"Thank you. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1164. Representative Keane. Representative Keane. Out of the record. On the or... on the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1136. Representative Steczo. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1136, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Township Law. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there Floor Amendments... any Motions? I'm sorry."
"No Motions filed."
"... Floor Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1179. Representative Breslin. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1179, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?" 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"None."
April 28, 1983 "Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1182. Representative Stuffle. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1202. Representative McCann. Ou... out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1223. Representative Matijevich. Gut of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1228. Representative Bowman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1228, a Bill for an Act concerning services for the blind and deaf and amending Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Motions filed. Amendment #1... Floor Amendment #2, Bowman, amends House Bill 1228 on page five and so forth."
"Representative Bowman. Representative Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. When the Bill came up in Committee, a question was raised with resp... with respect to Amendment #1, and it turns out that Amendment #1 was not drafted in accordance with my original intent, and some sharp-eyed Member of the Committee caught it. And this really makes good on a promise I made to the Committee to... to change the language contained in Amendment #1. It's a small change, but I'm doing this at the suggestion of the Committee, and it is in line with my original intent, and so I move its adoption."
"Is there any discussion? Representative Piel."
"Question, Mr. Speaker. Did the Sponsor table Amendment #1?" 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983
"No. Amendment #1 has not been tabled."
"He's dealing with Amendment #2 right now, and I've got a question, because what he... of the Parliamentarian, what he wants to change was already changed in Amendment #1. Look at Amendment #... if the Parliamentarian will look at Amendment #1 and look at Amendment #2."
"Representative Bowman, would you come to the podium, please?" Representative Bowman?"
"I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker, would you... would you repeat that? I didn't hear what you said."
"Come to the podium."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Mr. Piel, thank you very much for your observations. The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1. Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is hereby granted. Table #... Amendment #1 is hereby tabled. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, Bowman, amends House Bill 1228 on page five and so forth."
"Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you very much. I appreciate Representative Piel catching that, and I now move adoption of Amendment #2. My earlier explanation still stands."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 1228. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1240. Representative Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 86 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983
"House Bill 1240, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are the any Amendments from the Floor?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1242. Representative Stuffle. Call the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1242, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Am... Motions?"
"No Motions filed. #"
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1244. Representative Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, call the Bill... read the Bill."
"House Bill 1244, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1315. Representative Preston. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1315, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to provide for the management operation control and maintenance of state colleges and university systems. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Preston, amends House Bill 1315 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day and so forth." "Mr. Preston." April 28, 1983
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Amendment #1 make tech... technical corrections in the Bill and adds that July 1st is the effective date of the Bill. And Mr. Speaker, I don't know you... it may please the Chair to take 1315, 16, 17, 19, and 20 as one Roll Call, since they all do the same thing."
"NO, I don't think we can do that on Second Reading, only on Third Reading, we give you one Roll."
"Okay."
"Okay. Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1315, All those in favor signify by saying 'aye, those opposed no". The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1316. Mr... ME. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1316, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Regency University Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments.
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Preston..."
"Mr. Preston."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment to 1316 does the same thing that the Amendment to 1315 did. It makes technical corrections in the Bill and adds July 1 as the effective date."
"Are there any... is there any discussion? ร. Karpiel. Representative Piel."
"Yes. There is a difference between the two of us, Mr. 88 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Speaker. Has this Amendment been distributed?"
"Mr. Clerk?"
"Or is that what they're distributing right now?"
"Apparently they're distributing it right now."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Mr... Mr. Preston, we have a few Bill... Bills we'll being going back to pick up on the Order of Second Reading, so... All right. 1316 is out of the record, but on the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1317. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1317, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to provide for the management operations and..."
"Excuse me. Mr. Preston."
"Mr. Speaker, 1316 has... the Amendment has been distributed. Mr. Piel has it. Perhaps, he would not object to reading 1316 the second time."
"Well, is he... it is our attention to go back for a few Bills anyhow, but Mr. Piel, if you don't have any objection, we'll go back to 1316 now, if you care... Apparently it's been distributed..."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker... I was taking to Representative Preston, and they're in the process of distributing them all right now. We have just received 1316, so if he hits that by that time, I'll probably have 1317, which we haven't received yet."
"All right. Let's take 1317 out of the record then. And on the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1316. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1316, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Regency Universities Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 89 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Floor Amendment #1, Preston, 1316, on page one and by deleting line..."
"Mr. Preston."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Amendment #1 makes some technical corrections in the Bill and has July 1st as the effective date of 1316."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1316. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1317. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1317, a Bill for an Act to provide for the management, operation, control and maintenance of Southern Illinois University. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Preston, amends House Bill 1317..."
"Mr. Preston, proceed."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 makes technical corrections in House Bill 1317, has July 1st as the effective date."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1317. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments." 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
April 28, 1983 "Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1319. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1319, a Bill for an Act to provide... to amend Sections of the Public Community College Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Preston..."
"Mr. Preston."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 to House Bill 1319 makes technical corrections in the Bill and has July 1st as the effective date."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1319. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment?"
"No further Amendment."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1320. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1320, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act creating the Board of Higher Education, defining its powers and duties and making appropriations therefore. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, Preston, amends House Bill..."
"Mr. Preston."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 to House Bill 1320 makes technical corrections in the Bill."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 House Bill 1320. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay. The 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1696, Representative Stuffle. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1696, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1789. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1789, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #... No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. We're going to go back and pick up just a few on the Order of House... which... of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 606, Representative Jaffe. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 606, a Bill for an Act to create the offenses of criminal sexual assault. Has been read a second time previously."
"Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, Jaffe, amends House Bill 606 on page five and so forth."
"Representative Jaffe."
"Yes, as I indicated beforehand, this was the Amendment that was not distributed. It's merely a clean-up Amendment 92 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 asked by for... by LRB, and what it does is it provides conforming language that conforms references and language to present criminal statutes. It's, as I say, it's an Amendment that LRB wanted as a clean-up Amendment, and I do just ask that it be adopted."
"Is there any discussion? Being... Mr. Friedrich, is this an Amendmen... Are you asking to discuss 606?"
"506."
"Oh. No this is... we're on House Bill 606. There being none, the Gentleman moves for the adoption of House... of Amendment #7 to House Bill 606. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments. Further Amendments."
"Floor Amendment #8, Jaffe, amends House Bill 606 on page one and so forth."
"Representative Jaffe."
"This is an Amendment that merely clears up a term that is vague and was asked for by Representative Breslin. It's noncontroversial. All that it does is clarifies the provision that defines 'familial relationship', and I would move its adoption."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #8 to House Bill 606. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendment."
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 695. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Dunn."
"House Bill 695, a Bill for an Act to amend the 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 Downstate Public Transportation Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions, Mr. Clerk?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Ebbesen? We're not going to go forward then on House Bill 954. Alright. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1144. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative McGann. Mr... Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1144, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, McGann, amends House Bill 1144 on page..."
"Representative McGann."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly, this Amendment that I have to House Bill 1144 is just stating when the Act becomes law. It takes effect upon becoming a law. That's the only Amendment I have."
"Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman has asked for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1144. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendment?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, there appears House Bill 475. Representative Johnson. Representative Johnson."
"I'd be glad to proceed, but I think Representative Friedrich was asking for..." 94 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day Speaker Greiman: to
April 28, 1983 "Well, we're on a different Order, and I'll have get back to Mr. Friedrich. Representative Friedrich." "Mr. Speaker, I talked to Representative Madigan when he was in the Chair right after we passed this Bill. He assured me he'd go back to it. Now you're going to a different Order, and I had requested it from you. I'd respectfully ask that you honor that commitment made by
Speaker Madigan."
"Well, you know, I certainly don't argue that that was said, but I will come back to you. Right now we're on a different Order, and I will be back to you, Mr. Friedrich. Not a matter of... have to move the House along, Sir. Representative Johnson, on House Bill 475."
"Thank you."
"House Bill 475, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Farm Development Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Johnson."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is a bipartisan Bill sponsored by myself and Representative Stuffle, and Tate and Woodyard. This Bill passed out of the Agriculture Committee unanimously, and all it does is to amend the Illinois Farm Development Authority Act to increase from 100,000 to 250,000 the limit on the issuance of notes and bonds by that authority for any one real estate transaction. This was asked for by several of the banking groups. Our original amount was 600,000. The Farm Bureau felt that was too high, and all groups involved have now agreed and support 250,000 dollars as a reasonable figure. And I move for the passage of House Bill 475."
"Is there any discussion? Is there... There being none, the Gentleman has moved for passage of House Bill 475. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 108 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. We... We'll return to the Order, with leave, Mr. Vinson. We'll return to the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, House Ball... House Bill 506. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 506, a Bill for an Act in relationship to state finance. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #3 was adopted previously."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Amendments? Further Amendments."
"Floor Amendment #5, Keane, amends House Bill 506 on page two and so forth."
"Representative Friedrich."
"Representative Keane asked me to handle this Amendment. It's a Legislative Audit Commission Bill. It merely exempts from the Public Fund definition those funds donated to the state colleges and universities, and he asked me to handle it. I think there's no objection to it."
"Proceed."
"I would urge adoption of the Amendment."
"Gentleman has moved the adopt... for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 506. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No futher Amendments."
"Third Reading. On page twelve of the Calendar, 96 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 we now move to the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate. No wait a minute. Excuse me, Representative McAuliffe. Returning to House Bill 506. Does the Gentleman have leave to have the Bill appear on Short Debate Calendar? Gentleman has leave. Leave is granted. Now, on the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, House Bill 485. Representative McAuliffe. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 485, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Human Care for Animals Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McAuliffe."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 485 would raise the penalty for dog fighting in Illinois to make it a felony and would make it a felony to possess the necessary equipment to conduct dog fights. The reason for this is that the Agriculture Department currently administers the Act; and, because it's not a felony, they can't get no cooperation from the State Police. They are not willing to go in and investigate these things. The type of people who are involved in dog fights, as I showed to the Committee when the Bill was heard in Committee, I showed pictures of these very gruesome fights. The dogs fight to the death. It's very painful to the dogs, and the type of people that are involved in this are very unsavory characters. Unarmed agents from the Agriculture Department find it very uncomfortable trying to infiltrate these dog fighting gangs, and that's the reason for the Bill."
"Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 485. Is there any discussion? Mr. Bowman."
"Question of the Sponsor. I don't have a copy of the Bill..." 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Proceed." April 28, 1983
"I don't have a copy of the Bill in front of me. Could you tell me what Class of felony we're talking about?"
"Well, it's not Class X."
"I'm glad to hear that. No, is it 1, 2, 3, 4?"
"Class I fel..."
"What?"
"Class 1."
"Class 1 felony?"
"Yes."
"I mean, what is... what are the penalties for Class 1 felony?"
"They chop their hands off, I think, Representative
Bowman. Bowman: "Representative McAuliffe, I would appreciate you... appreciate it if you could take this a little more seriously. I'm just trying to find out."
"I'm trying to get the answer for you right now."
"Okay."
"In one second I'll have it."
"Thank you very much."
"Mr. McAuliffe."
"Class 4. Class 4 felony."
"Mr. Bowman, on the Bill."
"I'm sorry. It's a Class 3 felony. I'm sorry, Representative Bowman. Class 3 felony."
"Okay... Okay, wait a minute. In the meantime, my staff has come over to me and suggested and let me... maybe in this debate we can actually clear up exactly what the Bill does. I mean, I'd just like to know what the Bill does before I vote on it. I believe now, based on what Representative Cullerton and the staff have told me here, that the first offense is a Class 4 and subsequent 98 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 offenses are Class 3?"
"I couldn't hear you."
"That a first offense... A first offense is a Class..."
"Give the Gentleman some order, please."
"A first offense is a Class 4 and subsequent offenses are Class 3."
"That's correct."
"Okay. So, now we can at least agree on... on what it does. So you're raising from a misdemeanor to the lowest... for a first offense, the lowest category of felony and subsequent offenses a higher category. Thank you. I'm relieved now that at least I know what the Bill does."
"Is there any further discussion? Any further discussion? The Gentleman has moved... There being none, the Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 485. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 106 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no'. Representative Currie. Representative Greiman votes 'aye'. And Representative Currie votes 'aye'. On this Bill there are 108 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and this Bill, having obtained... received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 522. Representative Hawkinson? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 522, a Bill for an Act authorizing the Director of the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to convey certain real property to Knox County and to the City of Galesburg. Third Reading of the Bill." 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 37th Legislative Day
"Mr. Hawkinson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill affects the City of Galesburg. It arises out of a law suit three years ago between the Department of Mental Health and the City of Galesburg, which was settled. Part of the settlement was that the Department of Mental Health would convey 28 acres, including a swimming pool, to the City of Galesburg. This Bill has been amended in Committee to take away the objections of Central Management Services in the Department of Mental Health. It's been amended on the floor to take away any objections of Representative Cullerton, and I would urge a favorable vote."
"Representative Ebbesen."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I know this is Short Debate. I don't rise in opposition necessarily, but I think... Is this... Is this the Sponsor's first Bill? It is. We have to keep that in mind in voting."
"He indicates that it's his first Bill. Is there any further discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 522. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed voting 'nay'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, slowly take the record. On this Bill there are 103 voting 'aye', none voting 'nay', 1 voting 'present', and this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 669. Representative Stuffle? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 669, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Stuffle." 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, all that House Bill 669 does is provide an option in the School Code with regard to House Bill 701, which authorizes regional superintendents of education to conduct bargaining elections for educational personnel, that they may accept authorization cards, union cards evidencing membership, as well as petitions. There's been some question raised in at least one jurisdiction of whether or not this was an acceptable means of reporting membership for purposes of... of putting an entity on the ballot pursuant to House Bill 701. I know of no objection to the Bill. This is a common practice in private and public efforts to conduct bargaining elections, and I would ask for a favorable Roll Call on the Bill."
"Does anyone stand in opposition? There being no discussion, the Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 669. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 103 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 685. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 685, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr... Mr. Richmond."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill would allow villages of fewer than 5000 inhabitants to choose to have an appointed, rather than an elected, village clerk. Under the current law, villages incorporated under special Acts may appoint, rather than 101 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 elect, village clerks. Municipalities under the commission form of government appoint their clerks. Cities may, by two-thirds ordinance, appoint rather than elect village clerks. Villages not incorporated under special Acts elect their clerks; and, if a vacancy occurs, then the clerk is appointed until the next election when the vacancy is filled. City clerks appointed to fill vacancies serve for the remainder of the term. Now there are some villages that have had some problems with that, and that is the reason for this Bill. It is permissive. It is supported by the Municipal League since it is permissive, and the procedure then would be, if this passes, that a village board, by resolution, could take the option of having an appointed city clerk who would be appointed by the village president with a two-thirds vote by the village board. I ask for your support of this Bill."
"Does any... Does anyone stand in opposition? There being no one, the Gentleman ... Sorry. Mr... Representative Ropp, the Gentleman from McLean."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield? I have a question."
"Indicates that he will."
"Representative Richmond, is this... is this permissive, or is this... Is this permissive legislation?"
"Yes. Yes, it's permissive."
"Okay, thank you."
"Gentleman has moved for the adoption... for the passage of House BIll 685. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On this Bill there are 102 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, 102 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 763. Representative McAuliffe, do you want to go with that? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 787, Representative Braun. Braun? Representative Braun? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 834, Representative Kirkland. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 834, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Kirkland."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The purpose of this Bill is to make it easier for those seeking teaching positions to determine where vacancies exist within their school regions. It will put on file, with the regional superintendent of schools, a list of teaching vacancies within the region, and that will be done with the help of the school boards which will be required, by this Bill, to submit a list of teaching vacancies every August 1 and then to supplement that list with further vacancies - or the vacancies from the list that have been filled - to supplement the list on the first... by the first day of each month. This Bill came out of Elementary and Secondary Education 16 to nothing, and I ask for support."
"Does anyone stand in opposition? There being no one, the Gentleman has moved for passage of House Bill 834. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. And voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 104 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no', none voting 'present', and this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared 103 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Debate Calendar appears House Fill 860. April 28, 1983 Reading, Short Representative Saltsman? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 949. Representative Birkinbine? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 949, a Bill for an Act relating to the Insurance Valuation and Nonforfeiture Laws. of the Bill."
"Mr. Birkinbine."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and to Third Reading Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 949 is a model Bill that has been put forth by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners and has been adapted Illinois by the Illinois Department of Insurance. Briefly, it would replace the 1958 mortality tables with the commissioners 1980 standard, ordinary and industrial mortality tables to reflect today's greater life expectancy. And secondly, it provides a new system for automatic annual updating of statutory interest rates to take into account the higher interest rates the companies can earn in these days. It is designed to reduce the premiums of insurance in states and has had that effect in the 40 states that have, so far, adopted this Bill. I would ask for your 'aye vote."
"Does anyone stand in opposition? There being no one, the Gentleman moves for passage of House Bill 949. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed vote 'nay. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 107 voting aye, none voting 'no', none voting present, and this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate Calendar appears House BIll 956, Representative LeverenZ. 104 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Representative Leverenz? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 956, a Bill for an Act creating the State Purchase... Purchase Human Services Review Board, defining its powers and duties and amending an Act herein named. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was over having a small conference trying to eliminate a problem in the Subcommittee. House Bill 956 would abolish the current Governor's Purchase Care Review Board and establish a new Purchase Care Review Board that would oversee and determine rates on all areas of purchase care. The Bill came out of Committee with no opposition. I'd ask for your 'aye' vote."
"Does anyone stand in opposition to this Bill? There being no one, the Gentleman moves for passage of House Bill 956. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed voting 'nay'. The voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 99 voting 'aye', 9 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present', and this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Now, we are now moving on page twel... page thirteen of the Calendar, on the Order of House Bills Third Reading, non-appropriation Bills, and we will begin at the point of 'Next Bill' - Representative Mulcahey's Bill. Mr. Clerk. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading appears - non-appropriation appears House Bill 351. Representative Mulcahey, do you wish to proceed? Representative Mulcahey. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 351, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 105 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
"Mr. Mulcahey." April 28, 1983 to It "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, House Bill 351 is a Bill which corrects a very minor problem that we had, as far as physical education classes are concerned and physical education students. simply puts chiropractors, allows chiropractors write letters of excuse for people who have... need an excuse as far as physical education classes are concerned. It's a... It's something that they, indeed, want. It's something think will work very well, as far as the school kids are concerned. It only applies to physical education classes, and I would move for the adoption of this Bill. I also might point out I know of no... no objections to this Bill. The Illinois Medical Society says this Bill is okay."
I "Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 351, Is there any discussion? There being none, the Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 351. All those in favor signify by saying... by voting 'aye', those opposed vote "no". Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 86 voting 'aye', 23 voting 'no', none voting 'present, and this Bill, having received the Constitutional Najority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third, non-appropriation appears House Bill 361, Representative Younge. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 361, a Bill for an Act to give preference to certain bidders for medical service contracts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Ms. Younge."
"Yes, thank Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 361 amends the Public Aid Code and the Purchasing Act to provide that the Illincis bidders, under the medical prepaid assistance contracts, would be given you, a 106 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 five percent preference and, also, that the Department of Public Aid would encourage the use of in-state medical facilities and services. And I move for the passage of the Bill."
"Lady has moved for passage of House Bill 361. Is there any discussion? Representative Topinka."
"Yes, Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a noble idea to try and kind of keep the business in-house. But, you know, it does have a tendency to limit free enterprise, and it might add to the cost of any type of bidding on the one hand. Plus, I think We should be aware that if, indeed, this become law, by the time it would become law, the bids would already be out; and, for all intents and purposes, it would have no affect."
"Representative Hoffman."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield to a question? Madame Sponsor, I'm not that familiar with this Bill, but did I understand you to say that if a bid came in at, let's say, a hundred dollars from an out-of-state provider and another bid came in from an Illinois in-state provider that was $104.50, that they would have to give the preference to the $104.50 bid just because it was from the State of Illinois?"
"That's correct; that we would give a preference to bidders who are medical providers who are residents of the State of Illinois. We give preferences to other types of contractors, and it's only fair..."
"What do..."
"... that we give a preference to Illinois residents who bid on pre-paid medical programs."
"What do you say to the taxpayers who are paying that additional $4.50?"
"You say that because the medical provider lives in 107 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 Illinois and will spend his money in Illinois and will pay taxes in Illinois, that we save money by giving this small preference. That's the theory of the law; and, in fact in reference to these prepaid medical programs, the bids in Illinois have come in from Illinois as very low bids. This is not.. This Bill will not only cover the present bidding of these prepaid medical programs, but it will cover the ones in the future. We will lose money if the medical services are provided by out-of-state medical providers. In some sections in which there are border towns if out-of-state residents win the contract, it will tend to put a lot of doctors and hospitals and pharmacists out of business and, therefore, have an extremely bad economic impact on those areas. And that's why it's a good Bill."
"Representative Hoffman on the Bill."
"Mr. Speaker... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I can only assume that the Sponsor is sincere in her comments; however, it would appear to me that this flies in the face of the very thing that she's purporting to do. It would appear to me that it would be the greatest economic advantage to the State of Illinois to take those bids that are the best bids for the same kind of service; because, after all, these bills are being paid by the taxpayers of Illinois. And if we're paying extra money to a small number of providers, that extra money is being drawn off of all of the taxpayers of the State of Illinois, regardless of where they're located. And, therefore, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think, with a careful analysis of this Bill, I'm hopeful that you will see the wisdom of voting 'no'."
"Representative Pullen."
"I'd like to ask the Sponsor a few questions, please."
"Indicates that she will. Go ahead." 108 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983
"Do you know whether there are any Illinois resident physicians or medical providers that are proving Medicade service to any other states surrounding us?"
"I do not know of any."
"You don't know that there are not either, do you?"
"I do no know one way or another, Representative Pullen."
"Okay. Thank you. Are there any laws of this nature, resident preference laws, on Medicade bidding in the surrounding states?"
"I am not aware of whether or not there are resident preference laws in surrounding states for prepaid medical programs. I am aware that there are resident preference laws in other states in reference to contracting, in reference to workers and other subject matter areas. We are dealing with a new thing here, in that there aren't too many states that have prepaid medical programs; and, whether or not other states have adopted any preference on this particular subject matter, not... I am not aware."
"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to address the Bill, please. Mr. Speaker."
"Yes, proceed, Representative Pullen."
"Thank you. The problem with Bills that give preference to Illinois residents is that they work two different ways. They help the residents to get business with the State of Illinois, but these same people might forfeit business from other states surrounding us. We're talking, primarily, about medical providers that are on the borders; and, if we adopt this kind of legislation and the other states that are surrounding us do not have it yet, there is a very strong likelihood that they would retaliate against Illinois physicians by adopting their own residents' preference statutes. In that case, the Illinois residents that are in border areas, would no longer be able to 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 succeed in bidding on Medicade provisions in Missouri, or Indiana, or Iowa, or Wisconsin or Kentucky, and I think, although the Lady's effort is well-intentioned, that she might actually end up - and we would join her if we supported it - in having the exact opposite effect of what is desired. And I urge 'no' votes on the Bill."
"Thank you. Representative Curran."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise in support of this Bill. The discussion from the other side is pure speculation, as to what the other states may or may not do. I think there's a lot of merit in this Bill. When you look at giving the Illinois providers a five percent advantage and think that we might be paying an extra five percent, you also have to consider what the State of Illinois might be paying in unemployment or in loss of taxes. And those considerations, I think, outweigh any possible considerations of paying an extra five percent or of other states retaliating. So, I rise in support of this Bill. I think it's a good idea."
"Representative Vinson."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, in regard to this Bill, I think you really ought to take a hard look at this one. One speaker has suggested that there are a great number of unemployed doctors that this will put to work, and another speaker suggests that this is going to generate economic growth in the State of Illinois. This Bill does one thing and one thing only. It takes away money from poor people, and it gives it to doctors. And that is the last thing this General Assembly ought to be mandating. This is the most outrageous Bill in the world that we've ever considered around here. Does one simple thing. Takes money away from poor people and give it to doctors." 110 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day
April 28, 1983 "Thank you. Is there... Is there further discussion? Is there further... There being none, Mrs. Younge to close."
"I ask for your support on this matter. It would give a five percent preference..."
"Excuse me. Excuse me."
"... to Illinois medical providers. These medical providers are people who pay sales tax. They pay income tax. They buy property here, and they are citizens of the State of Illinois. And any preference, this small preference, that we would give them will be tripled through the various types of taxes that they will pay. And I ask for your support, based on the obvious theory that we will gain and keep a lot of revenue in Illinois if we protect those who provide the medical services who are residents here."
"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 361. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is now open. Representative Mautino to explain his vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did have my light on for a question; but, if the Representative would nod her head when I ask this question, I'd appreciate it."
"She indicates she'll nod."
"Okay. This legislation, as I understand it, would address also like the medical assistance contracts under the IBM computer system as well, would it not - so that that would address Illinois firms in the area of public aid and medical assistance? And I'm assuming that you're going to nod your head one way or another when I say who... Is it not true that a Wisconsin industry has the contract for the computer system and the IBM system under our Public Aid Department? Is that true? Yes, I wholeheatedly submit to 111 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 you that you vote 'yes' on this legislation. If I remember correctly, one of the largest expenditures we have in the area of medical assistance goes to a Wisconsin firm, a Wisconsin firm. We've gone through this situation. When Ron Griesheimer was where, this was part of the original war on Wisconsin when they started coming in taking the contracts away from Illinois businesses who had it prior to that time. It's a good Bill."
"Representative Bowman, did you want to explain your vote? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? On... Mr. Clerk, take the record. Do you want to change your vote, Mr. Vinson?"
"I want a verification."
"Mr. Clerk, take the record. Ms. Younge asks for a Poll of the Absentee."
"Poll of the Absentees. Flinn. Buff. Krska. McMaster. Nash. O'Connell. Preston. Taylor. Terzich."
"Excuse me. Ms. Younge. Postponed Consideration. Mr. Clerk, Consent Calendar, Second Reading. Representative... Let's hold on. Right. Under the rules, the rules provide that if one has on a Bill at least 47 votes, affirmatively, that one may put that Bill on the Order of Postponed Consideration so that the fact that it may or may not have received more than that, since the Chair did not declare the Bill having received a Constitutional Majority, it, therefore, goes on the Order of Postponed Consideration. Now, as I was saying, Mr. Clerk, on Consent Calendar, Second Reading Second Day. Mr. Clerk, read the Bills."
"House Bill 500, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning public utilities. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 577, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relationship to clerks of the court. Second 112 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 Reading of the Bill. House Bill 757, a Bill for an Act to amend township law, together with Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 781, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the adoption of persons, together with Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 923, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to payment and disposition of monies received by officers and employees of the State of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1017, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1029, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1068, a Bill for an Act to amend the Park District Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1075, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code, together with Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House bill 1091, a Bill for an Act concerning the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago. Second Reading of the Bill. And House Bill 1191, a Bill for an Act to designated Illinois Prairie Week. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Third Reading. Representative Karpiel, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I was going to ask leave of the House to put a House Bill 1438 in Interim Study."
"Does the Lady have leave? Leave is hereby granted. Representative Farley."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave of the House to table House Bill 2272, of which I am the principal Sponsor."
"The Gentleman asks leave to table House Bill... Was it 2272?"
"Correct."
"Does the Gentleman have leave? Leave is hereby 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day granted, and the Bill is tabled. April 28, 1983 Representative Friedrich."
"Mr. Speaker, I talked to Representative Pierce, Chairman of the Committee on Revenue, and I would like to - and he has consented. I would like to ask unanimous consent to have House Bill 1758 posted for Revenue Committee on May the 4th at 11:00. There was lack of communiciation there somewhere, and I hope there's no objection to it."
"Well, we would have to determined whether... whether we had 50 Bills already posted. We wouldn't want to violate our rules."
"... check with his staff, and they say it's alright for that period."
"Alright. Based on that representation, does the Gentleman have leave? Alright. Leave is hereby granted, and the posting rules are waived accordingly. Representative Wolf, Gentleman from Madison."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I request leave of the House to table House Bill 1582, of which I am the principal Sponsor."
"Gentleman asks leave to table House Bill I'm sorry."
"1582."
"1582. Does the Gentleman have leave? Gentleman has leave, and House Bill 1582 is hereby tabled. The Lady from Cook, Representative Wojcik."
"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to have leave to have House Bill 1394 placed in Executive. Posted in Executive."
"Well, have you spoken to the Chairman?"
"Yes."
"Excuse me. I think he's in Yugoslavia."
"I spoke to the Spokesman. No. Yeah, he's in 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83&D GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 37th Legislative Day Yugoslavia, right."
"Representative... Is the... Excuse me. Just hold that for just a second, Representative Wojcik. The Lady asks leave to suspend the posting requirements for House Bill 1394 and that it be posted in the Executive Committee - when?"
"Thursday."
"Pardon?"
"Thursday."
"Next Thursday. Does the Lady have leave? She has leave and leave is here... Representative McPike."
"Who is the Chairman of the Committee?"
"Mr. Terzich."
"Yes, and have you checked with the Chairman of the Committee?"
"He's not in town."
"Well, does anyone on this side of the aisle... Have you cleared it with anyone over here. Does anyone know what this Bill is?"
"I spoke with my Spokesperson."
"You checked with her. Fine. Well, I'd raise this point. Mr. Speaker, because earlier this week Mr. Vinson was objecting to everything we tried to do to speed the Committee process. And now it seems like Members of his side of the aisle suddenly are having problems with their Bills. It just seems strange that now they've decided to move ahead."
"Does the Gentleman object? Representative, there's been objection to that waiver. Representative Karpiel."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, it's just that I'm the Spokesman on Executive, and I did talk to the acting Chairman for this week, Mr. Capparelli. I think they're withdrawing their 115 37th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 28, 1983 objection. Thank you."
"It appears that Representative Dunn is either swimming, or he is attempting to waive... to waive his prior objection. Accordingly, does the Lady have leave? There being leave granted, the posting rules are accordingly waived. Agreed Resolutions. I's sorry. Before we get to that Order of Business, Representative Slape."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like leave of the House to put House Bill 59 on Interim Study in the Judiciary Committee. I've talked to Representative Jaffe, as well as all the wife beaters in the State of Illinois, and they've all agreed to..."
"Does the Gentleman have leave to place House Bill 59 in the Interim Study Calendar of the Committee on Judiciary? Gentleman have leave? Leave is hereby granted. Are there any further announcements or requests? Agreed Resolutions."
"House Joint... House Resolution 211, Yourell. House Resolution 212, Madigan - Democrat Leadership."
"Representative Matijevich on the Agreed Resolutions."
"Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 211, Yourell, congratulates Douglas McGugan on his retirement. HR 212, Madigan, congratulates Winn Harbicht on his retirement. I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay', and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, read House Joint Resolution 36."
"House Joint Resolution 36. Resolved by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that when 116 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 the Houses adjourn on Thursday, April 28, 1983 they stand adjourned until Tuesday, May 3, 1983 at the hour of 12:00 noon. And when the Senate adjourns on Friday, April 29, 1983, it stands adjourned until Monday, May 2, 1983 at the hour of 12:00 noon."
"Mr. McPike on the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution."
"Would the Clerk read the Resolution?"
"He read it, Mr. McPike."
"I move for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 36."
"Gentleman moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 36. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted, and Mr. McPike now moves to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay', and the House is now adjourned."
"Committee Reports. Representative Jaffe, Chairman from the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 28, 1983 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 96, 671, 673, 1102, 1379; 'do pass House Bills 16, 200, 663, 839, 1166, 1363 and 1378; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bills 548, 1381, 1449, 1450 and 1451; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 1496; 'do pass amended Short Debate Calendar' House Bills 261 and 1495; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 304, 545, 640, 1022, 1049, 1380, 2191, 2216. Representative DiPrima, Chairman from the Select Committee on Veterans, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 28 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Bills 487, 1723 and 727. Representative White, Chairman from the Committee on Human Services, to which the 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 37th Legislative Day April 28, 1983 following Bills were referred, action taken April 26 and reported the same back with the following recommendations second corrected Report: 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar House Bill 107... 1057. Representative Steczo, Chairman from the Committee on Counties and Townships, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken April 27 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 1392. Messages from the Senate. A Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in the adoption of their Amendment to the Bills of the following titles, to wit; House Bill 177, together with House Amendments #1 and 2, action taken by the Senate April 28, 1983. Kenneth Wright, Secretary." A Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolution, and adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit: Senate Joint Resolution 33, adopted by the Senate April 28, 1983. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Being no further business, the House now stands adjourned till Tuesday, May 3rd at 12:00 noon." 118 07/26/83 09:03 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 28, 1983 PAGE 1 HB-0043 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-0058 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-0059 OTHER PAGE 116 HB-0090 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-0204 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-0276 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-0277 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-0282 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-0315 SECOND READING PAGE 24 HB-0351 THIRD READING PAGE 105 HB-0361 THIRD READING PAGE 106 HB-0387 SECOND BEADING PAGE 25 HB-0433 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-0441 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-0459 SECOND BEADING PAGE 26 HB-0475 THIRD BEADING PAGE 95 HB-0485 THIRD READING PAGE 97 HB-0500 SECOND READING PAGE 112 HB-0506 SECOND READING PAGE 96 HB-0519 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-0522 THIRD READING PAGE 99 HB-0552 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-0577 SECOND BEADING PAGE 112 HB-0582 SECOND READING PAGE 28 HB-0606 SECOND READING PAGE 28 HB-0606 SECOND READING PAGE 92 HB-0606 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 29 HB-0619 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-0620 SECOND BEADING PAGE 32 HB-0646 SECOND READING PAGE 41 HB-0647 SECOND READING PAGE 41 HB-0653 SECOND BEADING PAGE 41 HB-0655 SECOND READING PAGE 42 HB-0669 THIRD READING PAGE 100 HB-0676 SECOND READING PAGE 42 HB-0684 SECOND READING PAGE 42 HB-0685 THIRD READING PAGE 101 HB-0695 SECOND READING PAGE 93 HB-0710 SECOND BEADING PAGE 43 HB-0713 SECOND READING PAGE 43 HB-0721 SECOND BEADING PAGE 9 HB-0723 SECOND READING PAGE 47 HB-0723 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 47 HB-0747 SECOND BEADING PAGE 47 HB-0754 SECOND READING PAGE 48 HB-0757 SECOND BEADING PAGE 113 HB-0771 SECOND READING PAGE 50 HB-0773 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-0775 SECOND READING PAGE 51 HB-0781 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-0782 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-0784 SECOND READING PAGE 51 HB-0791 SECOND READING PAGE 52 HB-0798 SECOND BEADING PAGE 52 HB-0801 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-0806 SECOND BEADING PAGE 53 HB-0812 SECOND BEADING PAGE 53 HB-0813 SECOND READING PAGE 53 HB-0820 SECOND READING PAGE 53 HB-0823 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-0828 SECOND READING PAGE 14 HB-0830 SECOND READING PAGE 54 HB-0834 THIRD READING PAGE 103 HB-0883 SECOND READING PAGE 12 HB-0883 RECALLED PAGE 13 07/26/83 09:03 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 28, 1983 PAGE 2 HB-0923 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-0925 SECOND READING PAGE 55 HB-0930 SECOND READING PAGE 12 HB-0944 SECOND READING PAGE 69 HB-0949 THIRD READING PAGE 104 HB-0956 THIRD READING PAGE 105 HB-0957 SECOND READING PAGE 69 HB-0958 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-0965 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-0975 SECOND READING PAGE 70 HB-0976 SECOND READING PAGE 70 HB-0986 SECOND READING PAGE 70 HB-1002 SECOND READING PAGE 71 HB-1003 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-1017 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-1024 SECOND READING PAGE 72 HB-1029 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-1032 SECOND READING PAGE 72 HB-1039 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-1043 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-1045 SECOND READING PAGE 73 HB-1053 SECOND READING PAGE 80 HB-1066 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-1068 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-1071 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-1072 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-1073 SECOND READING PAGE 80 HB-1074 SECOND READING PAGE 80 HB-1075 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-1076 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-1077 SECOND READING PAGE 81 HB-1082 SECOND READING PAGE 81 HB-1084 SECOND READING PAGE 82 HB-1091 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-1118 SECOND READING PAGE 82 HB-1136 SECOND READING PAGE 84 HB-1144 SECOND READING PAGE 94 HB-1158 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-1171 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-1179 SECOND READING PAGE 84 HB-1191 SECOND READING PAGE 113 HB-1209 SECOND READING PAGE 18 HB-1228 SECOND READING PAGE 85 HB-1240 SECOND READING PAGE 87 HB-1242 SECOND READING PAGE 87 HB-1244 SECOND READING PAGE 87 HB-1315 SECOND READING PAGE 87 HB-1316 SECOND READING PAGE 88 HB-1317 SECOND READING PAGE 90 HB-1319 SECOND READING PAGE 91 HB-1320 SECOND READING PAGE 91 HB-1438 OTHER PAGE 113 HB-1582 TABLED PAGE 114 HB-1696 SECOND READING PAGE 92 HB-1789 SECOND READING PAGE 92 HB-2272 TABLED PAGE 113 HR-0205 ADOPTED PAGE 66 HR-0210 ADOPTED PAGE 64 HJR-0036 ADOPTED PAGE 116 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MADIGAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - FATHER ANTHONY TZORTZIS PAGE 1 07/26/83 09:03 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 28, 1983 SUBJECT MATTER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE COMMITTEE REPORTS REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN IN CHAIR AGREED RESOLUTIONS PERFUNCTORY SESSION COMMITTEE REPORTS MESSAGES FROM SENATE PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNHENT PAGE PAGE PAGE PAGE PAGE PAGE PAGE PAGE PAGE 1 1 2 40 116 117 117 118 118 PAGE 3