Illinois House Floor Debate — May 15, 1984

"The House will come to order. Members will be in their seats. The Chaplain for today will be Reverend Richard Miller, Pastor, First Baptist Church of Morrisonville, Illinois. Reverend Miller is a guest of Representative Josephine Oblinger. Will the guests in the balcony please rise and join us in the invocation?"

"Our Heavenly Father, we're thankful for a group like this that is concerned about the government of our state. We thank You, Lord, for the word of God that instructs us that these men and these ladies are ministers of God for good, and it's their duty to watch over the souls of those that they're representing. And we pray, Lord, that You would give them great wisdom from on high in every matter that they would vote upon, every matter that they would consider, Lord, that they might consider the word of God as the basis for their decision, in Jesus Name. Amen."

"Be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Would the Doorkeeper provide Representative Hoffman with his key? Mr. Clerk, would you put Representative Hoffman on the present Roll Call? 113 Members answering the Roll Call, a quorum is present. Representative Greiman, on excused absences. None. Representative Piel."

"We have no excused absences on this side of the aisle, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 from Edgar, Representative Woodyard."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You are all being serenaded today by a band from our district represented by both Representative Stuffle and myself, the Crestwood Band of Paris, Illinois, and I think you very much will enjoy these young people playing down in the rotunda. They're really super kids."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, Representative Vitek should be excused today due to an illness in his family."

"Thank you. Agreed Resolutions."

"House Resolution 923, Madigan; 924, Madigan Terzich; and 925, Matijevich."

"Representative Giorgi, on Agreed Resolutions. Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, Madigan's 923 recognizes Sister Felicia of the Holy Cross Hospital; 924, by Madigan Terzich, honors a 25th priestly ministery; and 925, by Matijevich, announces the resignation of Director of Community Development and Planning for the City of North Chicago and laudes him for his job. I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolutions are adopted. Page two of the Calendar, House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate appears House Bill 968, Representative Stuffle. Out of the record. House Bill 1528, Representative O'Connell. The Gentleman on the floor? Take the Bill out of the record. House Bill 1546, Representative Jaffe. Representative Jaffe on the floor? Take the Bill out of the record. House Bill 1726, Representative Terzich. Out of the record. House Bill 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 2481, Representative Hautino. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2481, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to an Act in relation to state finance. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Vinson, amends House Bill 2481..."

"Representative Vinson, Amendment #1. Representative Vinson."

"Mr. Speaker, I ask leave to withdraw the Amendment."

"Gentleman withdraws Amendment #1. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2681, Representative Vinson. Do you wish to have the Bill read, Sir? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2681, a Bill for an Act concerning the provision of notes on legislation authorizing the conveyance or lease of real estate owned by the state. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Vinson, amends House Bill 2681..."

"Representative Vinson, Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 primarily is a technical, corrective Amendment. It does contain one substantive change in the Bill. And what it does in that respect is to change from two months to three months the time at which the appropriate data has to be filed."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 signify by saying 'aye, opposed 'no". The 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"The Gentleman asks leave for House Bill 2681 to remain on the Order of Short Debate. Hearing no objections, leave is granted. House Bill 2681, Third Reading Short Debate. House Bill 2702, Representative Nash. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2702, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unified Code of Corrections. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Madigan Nash, amends House Bill 2702..."

"Representative Nash, Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 amends House Bill 2702 to adding a new statutory aggravating factor at sentencing with regard to an offender who has committed a felony while on bail. Amendment #2 changed the title of the Bill and adds a provision to the Criminal Code relating to the class of offenses for second and subsequent violations. Section 21-1(h) - Criminal Damage to Property by Graffiti. I move for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. And on that, Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Mulcahey."

"A question of the Sponsor, Mr. Speaker."

"Indicates he'll yield."

"Steve, what was the... what was the first part of that 4  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Amendment again, the first part?"

"Representative Nash."

"The first part is the original Bill. The first Amendment was a technical Amendment."

"Okay. Then this Amendment does what again?"

"This adds graffiti. Criminal damage to property by graffiti is Amendment #2. It adds that onto the Bill."

"Okay. That's the Amendment right here?"

"Right."

"Gentleman from Knox, Representative Hawkinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor of the Amendment yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, is this Amendment the same Bill that was heard and not passed out of Judiciary Committee?"

"It's similar to that, but all the objections were cleared up."

"Let me ask a couple of questions about the Amendment, if I might. Does this create a new offense of criminal damage by graffiti?"

"That's already in the Criminal Code. It does not."

"What does it do? Does it increase the penalties then?"

"For a second or subsequent offenses, it makes it a Class 4 penalty."

"So, someone that's convicted a second time of writing on a wall, it would be a Class 4 felony?"

"Yes."

"Punishable by one to three years in the penitentiary?"

"That's correct. Plus probation, plus supervision, plus, plus."

"Thank you very much." 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"No further discussion, Representative Nash, to close."

"I move for adoption of Amendment #2, Mr. Speaker."

"Gentleman... Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. All those in favor signify by saying "ays", opposed 'no". The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No forther Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave for House Bill 2702 to remain on Short Debate. Any objections? Hearing objections, House Bill 2702, Third Reading Full Debate. Bouse Bill... Just to clarify that. That's House Bill 2702, Third Reading Full Debate. House Bill 2738, Representative Richmond. Out of the record. House Bill 2761, Representative Eving. Is the Gentleman... Representative Ewing, would you like to have your Bill called? Out of the record. House Bill 2783, Representative Yourell. Gentleman on the floor? Out of the record. House Bill 2837, Representative Ronan. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2837, a Bill for an Act in relation to a local government infrastructure assistance program. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"No Floor Amendments, Mr. Bonan. You want this moved to Third Reading? Third Reading. House Bill 2858, Representative Homer. Out of the record. House Bill 2892, Representative Steczo. Gentleman on the floor? Out of the record. House Bill 2911, Representative Ryder. Out of the record. House Bill 2924, Representative Farley. Mr. Farley, would you like to have the Fill called? Bead the Fill, Mr. Clerk." 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"House Bill 2924, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 was withdrawn previously. Floor Amendment #2, Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi, Amendment #2."

"Mr. Speaker, I request the withdrawal of Amendment #2."

"Gentleman withdraws Amendment #2. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi, Amendment #3."

"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #3 has to do with the City of Rockford and its loss of home rule powers and the habits they got into while they had home rule powers. The Amendment is a fourfold Amendment. It provides that in the administering of the police and fire code, when it was a home rule community, they were taking... they were using the rule that they take one from the top seven recruits on a police and fire examination, and then if... when these people got on the force and were promoted to a lieutenant, sergeant or captain, they were put on a year's probation. Further, in the tax increment districts, they created a tax increment district, and they'd like to have that district maintain its original flavor; but, if they add any property to it, they don't want the addition of the property to change the evaluation of the original district. They'd like the new property to be... contain its own value. And the other is in the... they'd like to give the City of Rockford the authority so that, by ordinance, the City of Rockford can discontinue its sanitarium, but it is providing TB services and out-patient treatments at the local hospitals. And these are things that they did as a 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 home rule unit, and they'd like to continue doing this. And I urge the support of the Assembly."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. On that, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Piel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"Yes, he will."

"Representative Giorgi, just one quick question. I noticed that the Amendment has... it's dealing without bringing the question to the electers on discontinuance. Can you explain exactly what you mean by not bringing it to the electors for discontinuance, please?"

"kell, what happened is TB... the incidence of TB has diminished somewhat, and they're dealing with it in our area through the local hospital. And the TB sanitarium has already been sold to the Rockford Medical School which is affiliated with the University of Illinois. What they'd like to do, they'd like to continue the TB tax rate to pay for the out-patient treatment of TE incidences, but they would not... cather not go to a referendum to abolish the TE tax levy."

"Okay. The tax levy is being made... at the present time, but there is no TB sanitariur."

"That's correct.

"Where are those funds being distributed to?"

"They're being paid to a local hospital that treats the TE incidences."

"So, in other words, the funds will still be going towards the treatment of TB though."

"That's correct."

"Thank you."

"Further discussion? The Gentleman from DeWitt, B  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Representative Vinson."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"Yes, he indicates he will."

"Representative, as I understand the part of your Amendment on page four that deals with tax increment financing districts..."

"Right."

"You are suggesting what will take place in the event that a tax increment financing district is expanded. Is that correct?"

"That's right."

"Is there a provision in the statute currently to expand a tax increment financing district? I'm told there is not."

"I don't think there is either, Representative Vinson. This, I think, provides for that in the event it is expanded."

"Well, your language talks about what would occur if it were expanded, but it doesn't provide a process for expanding a district. I am told that currently, not only can the municipality not expand the district, but that Judges in hearings where they are determining the ambiguous lines of a district, that they can't even expand the district and that, in fact, bond counsel is very concerned about that subject. Now, my question really is, does it really matter to talk about the technique for expanding a district if we don't have the authority to even expand the district to begin with?"

"Well, I think Rockford thought they had the authority, and they're... what they're writing here is in the event they expanded the authority, they want it crystal clear that the new expanded authority shouldn't affect the original... the original boundaries in, you know, in the 9  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEGAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OP BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 equalized assessed valuation."

"But you have reason to believe that there is authority somewhere?"

"Yes."

"Where the district can be expanded?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Would you have somebody chat with me about that so that..."

"Alright."

"Thank you."

"Being no further discussion, the Gentleman to close, Representative Giorgi."

"I think the Assembly understands what we're trying to do here, and I'd urge the support."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave for House Bill 2924 to remain on Short Debate. Is there any objection? Hearing none, leave is granted. House Bill 2924, Third Reading Short Debate. House Bill 2962, Representative Keane. Is the Gentleman on the floor? Out of the record. House Bill 3067, Representative Olson. Representative Olson? Out of the record. House Bill 3091, Representative Ryder. Out of the record. House Bill 3106, Representative Hoffman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3106, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed." 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"Any Floor Amendments?" May 15, 1984

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3127, Representative Hannig. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3127, a Bill for an Act in relationship to elected officials taking time off from employment. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Hannig, amends House Bill 3127..."

"Representative Hannig, Amendment #1."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Amendment basically does three things. It would limit the Bill to those employers who have 25 employees or more. It would provide that the State Mandates Act does not apply and would provide that employees could only receive the benefit of this legislation if they did attend the meetings. It's points that were brought up in the Committee hearing, and it's my attempt to try to address those problems. And I would now move for the adoption of this Amendment."

"Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield for a guestion?"

"Yes, he will."

"Representative, under ycur Amendment, are we exempting this mandate from the Mandates Act?"

"Re're saying that the State Mandates Act would not apply to any provisions of this Eill."

"And what that means is that we're imposing a cost on local government that we're not going to reimburse them for. Is that correct?" 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"It's my belief that there probably May 15, 1984 would not be any significant costs; but, in the case that there would be, you would be correct that we will not pick up the tab, so to speak, of any additional costs."

"Thank you. Inquiry of the Chair."

"Yes, proceed."

"Mr. Speaker, the real Speaker issued a memo some days ago in regard to the State Mandates Act and his intent to make sure that this Body does not continue in its previous pattern of... of exempting mandates from the Mandates Act and imposing these horrendous costs on local governments. He did that, I think, because he neglected to get called for consideration of the House a Constitutional Amendment which would have had that affect and which would have constitutionally protected local government and the taxpayers from these horrendous mandates. He issued a memo that suggested that he was going to try to put some political teeth into the process, and I was just wondering what we're going to do in regard to this Amendment and his intentions on that."

"Well, Representative Vinson, Representative Cullerton has requested a State Mandates Note te filed on the Bill as amended, on behalf of the Speaker."

"Okay. Mr. Speaker, then to the Fill."

"Proceed. To the Amendment."

"To the Amendment, and assuming Representative Cullerton's strong support for my position in this regard, I would urge a "no" vote on the Amendment, because what we are doing is imposing a cost on local government that we are not prepared to reimburse them for. And we're trying to circumvent the Mandates Act, and it would have been much better to enact a Constitutional Amendment to protect the taxpayers; but, since we've failed to do that because of 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 the scheduling of the House, the least we can do is to begin to reject these Amendments imposing costs on local taxpayers and local governmental units. And I would urge a 'no vote on the Amendment for that reason and request a Roll Call."

"Further discussion? There being none, Representative Hannig, to close."

"Well, yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I fail to see why my colleague from the other side is trying to make such a big deal about such a small Amendment. Basically, the Amendment does three things which I am trying to do to address some of the problems that were brought up in Committee. Number one is Representative Barger indicated that he felt that it should only apply to those companies who have 25 or more employees. The Amendment will do that. Representative Flinn proposed that we should have words in the law that says that an individual cannot take advantage of this law and use it to take time off and then not show up at these public meetings. The Amendment does that. And last year, the Governor vetoed a similar proposal because he said that we did not exempt the Bill from the State Mandates Act. I don't want to see this Bill vetoed by the Governor as well simply because we, once again, failed to exempt it from the State Mandates Act. Personally, I support the Amendment... the Constitutional Amendment that will be debated, but that's not really the issue here. All I'm asking is that we can get this Bill in the posture that it needs to be in so that we can pass it from this chamber and send it over to the Senate for consideration. I'd ask for your "yes" vote."

"Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor signify by voting aye, 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 opposed vote "no". Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Amendment there are 21 ayes, 66 nos', 10 voting present', and the Amendment fails. Forther Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Hannig, amends House Bill 3127..."

"Representative Hannig, Amendment #2."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill (sic Amendment) would simply provide, at the request of Representative Barger, that those counties of 500,000 or more would not be covered by this Act. I know of no opposition to this Amendment. I'd move for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Any discussion? Being none, question is, Shall Amendment #2 be adopted? All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Gentleman asks leave for House Bill 3127 to remain on the Order of Short Debate. Any objections? The Chair stands corrected. There has been a request for a State's Mandates Act as amended. So, it will remain on Second Reading. House Bill 3141, Representative Kirkland. Gentleman in the chamber? Representative Kirkland in the chamber? Gentleman is not in the chamber. Out of the record. House Bills Second Reading. Page 11 of the Calendar, House Bills Second Reading, next Bill, appears House Bill 3069, Representative Ewing. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3069, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the collection of state taxes. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?" 14  118th Legislative Day

"None." STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984

"Third Reading. House Bill 3072, Representative Brunsvold. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3072, a Bill for an Act to amend the Medical Practice Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Brunsvold, amends House Bill 3072 on...".

"Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Brunsvold, Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 deletes two Sections of the original Bill as requested by the Medical Society, and I would ask for the adoption of the Amendment."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor signify saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3073, Representative Hicks. Out of the record. House Bill 3074, out of the record. House Bill 3083, Representative Vinson. Representative Vinson? Proceed. No, out of the record. I'm sorry. Out of the record. How about 30... House Bill 3084, Representative Vinson? Out of the record. House Bill 3085. Out of the record. House Bill 3096, Representative Hastert. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3096, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create the Bureau of the Budget. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?" 15  118th Legislative Day

"None." STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984

"Third Reading. House Bill 3097, Representative Woodyard. Representative Woodyard, do you wish to have the Bill called? Representative Woodyard. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3097, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #2 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3. Koehler - Woodyard - Ewing, amends House Bill 3097 on page one and so forth."

"Representative Koehler, Amendment #3."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 to House Bill 3097 essentially takes the Department of Revenue out of the exemption process as far as such things as church properties are concerned. What we have had a problem with is, during the review process, many of the church parsonages have been declared non-tax exempt, and what this would do would be essentially give local control to the local boards of review with regard to the exemption process. And I would move for its adoption."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. And on that, the Gentleman from Livingston, Representative Ewing."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Amendment we have before us here addresses the exemption of not just parsonages, but charitable properties from the real estate tax rolls. This is a problem that many of us have faced with our constituent in recent months dealing with the rather uneven handling of these types of 16  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 exemptions from the county level after they're sent to the local... or to the State Department of Revenue. This is a matter that we should return to local control. I don't think there's any place in our taxing system where local people should have a more acute idea of what should be tax exempt. It can be easily administered at the local level. It can be fairly administered, and we can have uniformity in the system. And I would urge a resounding 'yes' vote for this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cock, Representative Cullerton."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Representative Koehler, I'm sorry, I couldn't understand your explanation of what the Amendment was. Could you please repeat... Maybe you could give me a little background. If you could tell me what the Bill does and then how your Amendment affects the Bill."

"Certainly, Representative Cullerton. A little bit of the background would be that in Marshall County, where I live, many of the churches came to me about six months ago, because they were experiencing a problem with the Illinois Department of Revenue as far as the tax exempt status of church properties. What was happening is that the Illinois Department of Revenue has been interpreting the latest Supreme Court ruling with regard to taxation of church properties in a very narrow manner. For example, with regard to the church parsonage, they have been interpreting adjacent to the... the Supreme Court rule that the church parsonage should be in close proximity. Well, the Department of Revenue is saying, "Well, it has to be immediately adjacent", and this is causing many churches and the parsonages to be considered non-tax exempt. That 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 means that they are going to be put on the tax rolls. And many of our churches are extremely upset about this. At present what is happening is the Department of Revenue is not allowing tax exempt status to about three out of four of our church parsonages. And this, of course, is immediately opposite of what most people in the State of Illinois intend. They would like to see church parsonages considered to be tax exempt. So, what this particular Amendment does, it says that the local boards of review will have the responsibility for determining the exemptions to property tax status. It puts the decision right in the hands of those who are immediately responsible for raising our property taxes and for spending our property taxes. It gives local control with regard to exemptions from property tax."

"ell, the Sponsor of the Bill is Bepresentative Woodyard. Is that correct? And, as I understood the... the Bill originally, it was to limit these local boards of reviews discretion. And it appears that what your Amendment is doing is to change that. That's why I'm confused. You want to change the whole purpose of the Bill. The original Bill was to allow boards of review and the boards of appeals to determine property tax exemptions only in the instances of horestead exemptions. Is that correct? And now what you're doing with the Amendment, apparently, is taking out the Department of Revenue altogether. Perhaps you could clarify that for me."

"Yes. Thank you, Representative Cullerton, for that question. What has happened is when I made the Department of Revenue and the Governor's Office and many others who are concerned about this aware of the tremendous outpouring of feeling with regard to this question, I asked them, "Well, what would be the best way to solve our problem?" 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 And we worked together, and we came up with this solution, the solution being to remove the Department of Revenue from the exemption process. Well, the best way to do this was to amend this particular piece of legislation, thus removing the original intent of the legislation and placing on it the... the Amendment which essentially becomes the intent of House Bill 3097 then."

"Well then, I think that I'n opposed to your Amendment. As I understand it, there's a... a greater possibility for the local administration of property tax exemptions to... to be filled with possible abuse. I think that it's obvious that, as the local pressures that exist on the local administration grow, there's a possibility of some property being exempt when it shouldn't be; and, of course, as a result of that, higher property taxes are paid by non-exempt property. The state agency is not subject to the poor administration that could potentially plague the system, and I think that this is really not a good idea, and I'm sure that you may have had a problem in your county with the Department of Revenue. Once again I'll just tell you that once we elect a Democratic Governor, we'll have a new Director of Bevenue, and we can work with the local people a lot better. But if you have a problem with the Republican administration, go in and see the GovernoΙ. Don't try to put a Bill in that changes the policy for the entire state. So, I would oppose your Agendment."

"Gentleman from Lake, Representative Pierce, on the Amendment."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Department of Bevenue really isn't in the real estate tax business in a great way, and I don't know why they should be in exemptions. If the local... I think the Lady's Amendment makes some sense. If the local board of review 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 or the board of appeals, and I know the last speaker has a lot of respect for Cook County government in all its aspects, including the Cook County Board of Appeals, and I do think that if the local assessor and the local board of appeals and board of review make a mistake, then we should have administrative review to the courts. The courts in the locality would be better able to judge, and that's just what would happen under this Amendment. And the Sponsor of the Amendment can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I'm right, when she closes, that under her Amendment there's review for the local authorities. If the assessor isn't happy with it, the state's attorney who represents the assessor or if the local school district or local governments aren't happy with this exemption, they can take administrative review to the courts and to further challenge the exemption. I don't know why you have to run down to Springfield to the Department of Revenue on real estate tax exemptions, and it would seem to me that the Amendment makes sense. And I find it as a quicker, surer way to... to obtain relief. Do you know in Cook County, if your exemption is denied by the board of appeals, they don't even forward the records to the Department of Revenue? There's no way you can get a reversal from the Department of Revenue. They forward their records when they grant an exemption; but, when they turn down an exemption, they don't send the records down there. And if you ask for review from the Department of Revenue, which I think you're entitled to in the statute, the Cook County Board of Appeals isn't even sending down the records. So, let's find a way to get into the courts sooner, to get it out of the hands of these local officials if they're abusive, and I think this Amendment would do that. It would allow the... It would allow the wrongfully taxed 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 taxpayer or the public bodies to get into court on administrative review and determine whether the property should or should not be exempt. And, for that reason, I to support the Amendment."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, now that I've had an opportunity to have someone who is knowledgeable in this area explain what the Amendment really does, I certainly will change my position and support the Amendment. It sounds like a very good idea."

"There being no further discussion, the Lady from Marshall to close, Representative Koehler."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Representative Cullerton, for your very careful deliberation and change of heart. And I do wish to thank Representative Pierce. He was entirely correct. We still do have review through the Circuit Court process, and that essentially is one of the good things about this Amendment. It returns control to our local boards of review and to our local court system, which essentially has been the better... the better forum for review current... that we would most prefer. And essentially these local boards of review have been... have been giving tax exempt status to most who would be affected by this particular Amendment anyway. And it does remove from the state many of the things that they have been doing in the form of much too narrow promulgated... narrowly promulgated rules, and I would close and ask for your favorable vote on this Amendment."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye", opposed 'no". The 'ayes have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?" 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"No further Amendments."

"The Bill remains on Second Reading. There is a fiscal note requested as amended. Gentleman from Marion, Representative Friedrich."

"Mr. Speaker, a point of personal privilege."

"Proceed."

"Illinois is a very diverse state, and I think sometimes we don't appreciate all the things we've got here already. All of the products of Illinois are sold all over the world, and you may not think of candy as one of them. Hollywood Candy Company is in Centralia, and it does ship candy all over the world. You've probably seen Payday more than anything else, because it's the most popular bar. They've come out with the Chocolate Payday, and then you've just had one. Hollywood sends it up with their greetings and hope it would give you some quick energy for the Session."

"House Bill 3098, Representative Churchill. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3098, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Nuclear Preparedness Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Churchill - Matijevich, amends House Bill 3098..."

"Gentleman from Lake, Representative Churchill, Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 seeks to require that owners of nuclear plant reactors provide to the Department of Nuclear Safety all of their system status signals which may 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 initiate emergency action level declarations, and I would move for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Feing Done, the guestion is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?" All those in favor signify by saying "aye, opposed 'nc". The 'ayes have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Further Arendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Fil1 3099, δεpresentative Hoffman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3099, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3100, Bepresentative Tate. Out of the record. House Fill 3101, Representative Friedrich. Representative Friedrich, do you wish to have your Bill called? Read the Fill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3101, a Fill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Beading. House Bill 3102, Representative Hawkinson. Bead the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 3102, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Beading of the Bill. Amendment #32 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?" 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Hawkinson, amends House Bill..."

"Gentleman from Knox, Representative Hawkinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #3 fills in a gap that was inadvertently left out of the original Bill to add the Department of law Enforcement as the state agency which may seize illegal gambling devices. The original Bill left that out. It has in municipalities and counties. This would give the authority to the Department of law Enforcement."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. Is there any discussion? Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Brummer."

"Yes, will the Sponsor of the Amendment yield?"

"Yes, he indicates he will."

"Representative Hawkinson, I think this is a Bill that we heard in Judiciary Committee that I expressed some concern about. Then I think you were going to get some Amendment, and Public Utilities was meeting at the same time and I was not in the Judiciary when the Amendment came up. How did you amend that Bill in Committee to remove my concern?"

"Representative, by Amendment #2 to this Bill, we took out of the original law the word 'contraband' which was your objection that we were setting up two separate standards or a redundancy by the language we were putting in. We removed... We agreed with that objection and removed the word 'contraband' from the statute in its entirety."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Further discussion? There being none, the 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ 118th Legislative Day question is, Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' May 15, 1984 All those in favor signify by saying aye, opposed 'no". The ayes" have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3108. Out of the record. House Bill 3117. Representative Breslin in the Chair."

"Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3117, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?#

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Leverenz, amends House Bill 3117 as amended."

"Thank "Representative Leverenz." you. Madam Speaker. Amendment #2, we would propose with the Amendment, since it was amended with Amendment #1, that this would close all of the gasoline retail service stations, and they would not be able to open on Sunday. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"Bepresentative Mautino, on the Amendment."

"Thank you very much, Mada Speaker. I stand in opposition to Amendment #2 to 3117. The initial legislation addresses the repeal of an existing statute as it pertains to the private enterprise system and the mandating the closure of new car dealers on Sunday. This Amendent would close gas stations, garages, repair facilities for vehicles. I do not think, in a private enterprise system, that this State of Illincis should be mandating when a private entreprenuer ofens or closes his or her business. There is other legislation as well 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 closing beauticians and barber shops on Sunday. This is not the way to address the system of economic development in our state. I think it's ridiculous that we now ask by this Amendment to close gas stations, etcetera. I'm sure someone else will probably have an Amendment to close churches on Sunday, which would be the final straw. Therefore, I stand in opposition to this Amendment."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the Sponsor is recognized to close."

"Well, thank you. The Gentleman has alluded to what the legislation did originally. Well, the original legislation deals with school buses of 15 passengers or less, and what we've found here is a vehicle that needed a new wheel. And since there's always availability for four wheels and maybe even a spare, Amendment #1 to the Bill took away the school bus issue and made it Fireside Chrysler, Plymouth and Mazda against the Secretary of State all over again, which was upheld in the Supreme Court. So, what we are doing is just adding a second wheel saying that if the... all of the automotive stores in the world in these big shopping centers are going to be open, then, in the opposite, perhaps the gas stations should be closed with Amendment #2. And perhaps Amendment #3 will close the beauty salons of the world so you can't get your hair done. And then Amendment 4 will close all the churches on Sunday so that you have the availability of having one day off from your political scheduling and the priests and rabbis and ministers would have at least one day off. So, therefore, I move for the adoption of Amendment #2."

"There has been a request for a Roll Call vote. The Gentleman... Representative Leverenz."

"I didn't ask for a Roll Call vote. I'm not going to be embarrassed to be put in the Century Club." 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Representative Van Duyne, did you request... did you request a Roll Call vote? Representative Van Duyne has requested a Roll Call vote. The question is, Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 3117 be adopted? All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 3 voting 'aye, 97 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3119, Representative O'Connell. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3119, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3123, Representative Cullerton. Out of the record. House Bill 3128, Representative Madigan. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3128, a Bill for an Act in relationship to boards and commissions. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3129, Representative Pierce. Representative Pierce. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3129, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning public utilities. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #3 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Third Reading... Are there any Floor 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day Amendments?" Clerk Leone: amended. May 15, 1984 "Floor Amendment #4, Piel, amends House Bill 3129 as "Bepresentative Piel." you,

"Thank Madam Speaker. Before we proceed with the Amendment #4, I'd ask leave of the House to waive Bule 65 (b) while the present Speaker is in the Chair." Speaker Breslin: #The Gentleman asks leave. Is there any objections? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman leave." has Piel: ס"מ Amendment #4... Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #4, all this does is say... you know, we discussed this in Committee. It's agreeable with the Sponsor. It just sets a sunset of leceaker 31st of 1985."

Gn Speaker Breslin: "The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4 to House Bil1 3129. And on that question, is there any discussion? Representative Pierce." He

Committ... Pierce: "Yes, Madam Speaker, the Gentleman is correct. brought up the Amendment in Committee. All the All the Amendment does is makes sure that this Bill, House Bill 3129, like the entire Public Utilities Act, is subject to the sunset review of the Sunset Committee and expires December Assembly. 31, 1985, unless extended by this General And the Sunset Committee is doing its work right now, and I think it will accomplish its work. And, therefore, I believe this is a good Amendment. It makes certain that House Bill 3129 is subject to sunset review, along with the Public Utilities Act, and I'm in support of the Gentleman's Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Asendment #4 to House Bill 3129 be adopted?' those opposed say nay". All those in favor say 'aye, all In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there 28  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, Pierce, amends House Bill 3129 as amended."

"Representative Pierce."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a technical Amendment that inserts the word 'and' where it should be inserted and takes out a misspelling. It has no substantive affect on the Bill, and I move the adoption of Amendment #5 as Sponsor of the Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 3129. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #5 to House Bill 3129 be adopted?. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment's adopted. Are there any further Amendment?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3130. Out of the record. House Bill 3134, Representative McGann. Out of the Representative McGann, on House Bill 3134. Out of the record. House Bill 3135, Representative DiPrima. Cut of the record. House Bill 3138, Representative Currie. Cut of the record. House Bill 3143, Representative Kirkland. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3143, a Bill for an Act concerning the anticipation of units of local government and school districts of revenue from any source. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Kirkland, amends House Bill 3143."

"Representative Kirkland."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 3143 authorizes units of local government to issue revenue anticipation notes with a lisit of 85% of expected revenue. Among the provisions of that legislation is that notes shall bear interest at the rate of 7% per annum. That was an incorrect rate, and we add an Amendment here to change the rate to S... well, to the wording in the public corporations interest rate Section of Chapter 17, banking and finance section of the statute. So, it's simply bring the Bill into line with the... a correct interest rate."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Aaendment #1 to House Bill 3143. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 3143 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the "ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3146, Representative Kirkland. Cut of the record. House Bill 3148, Representative Kirkland. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3148, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to loans made by schools and municipalities. Second Reading of the Eill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Ficor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, McCracken, amends House Bill 3148 on page one and so forth."

"Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 to House Bill 3148 would include cases where an adverse decision against a school district has been rendered by the Illinois Property Tax Appeal Foard to 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 those court decisions which currently give rise to the right to a recomputation of state aid. The current... Under current law, only court decisions give that right, and this Bill would amend that to include Illinois Property Tax Appeal Board decisions, but only where the decision is an amount greater than 500,000 dollars. I ask the adoption of Amendment #1."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 3148. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Madam Speaker, I wondered if the Parliamentarian could look at this Amendment to see if it fits on this Bill. I believe that the Amendment may not be..."

"Are you questioning the germaneness of the Amendment?"

"The germaneness of the Amendment. Yes."

"While the Clerk... While the Parliamentarian is looking at this Amendment, is there any further discussion on the substance of the Bill? Representative Cullerton."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield to a question."

"Could you tell me why do you think that the Chicago Board of Education would be opposed to your Amendment?"

"It's possible that they would not be a party to this Amendment, because all tax decisions in Cook County do not go to the Illinois Property Tax Appeal Board."

"So, you feel that it doesn't apply to them at all."

"That's correct."

"So, there's no reason for them to be opposed to it."

"That's my conclusion."

"On the question of germaneness of the Amendment." 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

May 15, 1984 "On behalf of the Speaker, the Amendment is not germane. The Bill deals with corporate authorities and school districts' ability to borrow money from banks, while the Amendment has no relation to that but deals with the Property Tax Appeal Board and the school aid formula."

"Representative McCracken, for what reason do you rise?"

"Would the Chair entertain arguments?"

"I'm sorry, Representative McCracken."

"Okay. Thank you."

"The Amendment has been ruled not germane. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Friedrich, amends House Bill 3148 on page one and so forth."

"Representative Friedrich."

"Mr. (sic Madam) Speaker and Members of the House, under the present law, school districts can use building fund tax money to lease other public buildings. In Clinton County, there are a number of parochial schools that have been abandoned and are now being used as public schools. This would merely permit the districts to use building fund tax money to rent those parochial schools. As far as know, there's no objection to it."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 3148. And on that question, is there any discussion? Representative Cullerton."

"Let's try this one, too. I question the germaneness."

"The Gentleman questions the germaneness of the Amendment, Representative Friedrich. While the Clerk (sic Parliamentarian) is looking at the Amendment, is there any further discussion on the substance of this Bill... or of this Amendment? Representative Friedrich, the 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Parliamentarian has indicated that this Amendment is not germane to this Bill. Are there any further Amendments? Representative Friedrich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Representative McCracken and I would like to have a new Parliamentarian."

"Your recommendations will be noted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Vinson, amends House Bill 3148 on page one and so forth."

"Bepresentative Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. (sic - Madan) Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 clarifies an existing provision in the tax increment financing statute for the State of Illinois and does authorize one limited class of farmland to be included, that one limited class... in a tax increment district, that one limited class being farmland which has already been subdivided. It's a good Amendment. It will help a number of small communities throughout the state, and I would rise in support and urge its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Arendment #3 to House Bill 3148. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"I couldn't hear the explanatica."

"Representative Vinson, could you repeat your explanation of the Amendment? Ladies and Gentlemen, would you give Representative Vinson your attention?"

"You know, the other end of that gavel makes a louder noise and gets their attention, Mr. Speaker... Madam Speaker. I apologize. Yes, to the Arendment. What the Amendment does is it clarifies an existing provision in the Tax Increment Financing Act of the State of Illinois, and it clarifies it so that one very narrow class of farmland 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY ECUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION DEFATE 118th Legislative Cay May 15, 1984 can be contained within a tax increment financing district. That very narrow class of farmland would be only farmland which has already been subsidized at the time of the... not subsidized, but already been subdivided at the time of the creation of the district. I knew of no opposition to the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3. Is there any further discussion on that? There being no further discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 3148 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say #nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amenduents?"

"Floor Amendment #34, Kirkland, amends House Bill 3148 on page one and so forth."

"Representative Kirkland."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. This Amendment is germane - this most popular Bill. The Bill itself allows borrowing fron banks and other institutions by local units of governments and school districts, and some of this goes on Dow ty home rule communities. This would allow an expansion of that into communities subject to the state. What this Amendment does... I'm sorry. This borrowing authorization is added onto existing statutory language involving inter-fund borrowing in the Municipal Code and in the School Code, and that inter-fund borrowing statute has limits of either repaying within the current fiscal year or within one year of the loan. This Amendment adds those limits to the new language allowing borrowing from banks and other financial institutions. It's to make the language parallel of the two types of borrowing."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Amendment #4 to House Bill 3148. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"I understand this is germane, and I understand it's popular. Is it popular in Cook County?"

"I don't know. I thought perhaps you might let me know if there's some probles in Cook County."

"Well, does it... Would it affect the state aid formula?"

"I don't think SO. I think it goes strictly to short-term borrowing. I don't think it affects the school aid formula."

"Okay. I have no opposition. It sounds like a popular Amendment."

"The question... Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, *Shall Amendment #4 to House Bill 3148 be adopted? All those in favor say aye, all those opposed say nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, Oblinger, amends House Bill 3148 on page one and sc forth."

"Representative Oblinger."

"Madam Speaker and Members of the House, this is allowing a municipality to contract with other municipal or governmental entities for making funds available in a joint venture for senior centers, transportation and social services for the poor and aged."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 3148. On that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton." 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEFATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Yes. I understand that the Amendment is just being distributed. I think perhaps half the House has a copy and the other half perhaps does not. I think that this particular Amendment has the same germaneness problems that two of the other three that were adopted did. So, I would ask the Parliamentarian to look at the Amendment to determine whether or not it's germane."

"While the Amendment is being distributed to the rest of the Membership, the Farliamentarian will review the Bill and the Amendment with regard to germaneness. Bepresentative Cullerton."

"Yes, I apologize to Representative Oblinger. I just didn't have a chance to review the Arendgent. It appears to be in order, and I withdraw my request."

"Is there any further discussion on this Amendment? Is there any further discussion on this Amendment? There being no further discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #5 to House Bill 3148 be adopted? All those in favor signify say 'aye", all those opposed say "nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, with leave from the Assembly, we would like to interupt this Order of Business to take one Bill to accommodate the Sponsor, Representative Yourell. Do we have leave to do that just for this one Bill? Thank you. The Gentleman has leave. We are, therefore, on Third Reading. House Bill 2721, Bepresentative Yourell. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2721, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Library Systems Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Bepresentative Ycurell." 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. May 15, 1984 Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 2721 is a Eill that's very important to the Illinois Library Association and the libraries throughout the State of Illinois. The only reason that I asked for consideration to call this Fill out of order is that I will not be here and be able to vote tomorrow since I am resigning as of 9:00 tomorrow morning, and the Speaker and the Minority Leadership have agreed to let me call this one Bill SG that I can get it over to the Senate for consideration. As I've indicated, it's very important the Illincis libraries, and I would ask that you concur in to What this Bill does is the Third Reading of the Bill. provide tha the libraries in Illincis increase their funding from a dollar nine to a dollar fourteen and a half cent and their square mile funding be increased from thirty eight dollars and nineteen cents to fcrty dollars and ten cents. A fiscal note was requested of this Bill, and the fiscal note has been provided in the amount of 730,000 dollars. The Governor has this amount in his budget, and the Secretary of State, who is the Chief Librarian of the State of Illinois, also has this amount is his budget. Ee happy to answer any questions. I ask for your affirmative vote on House Eill 2721."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage cf House Bill 2721. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Mclean, Representative Bopp."

"Thank you, Br. (sic Madan) Speaker. I just wanted to ask a point of clarification. Do we treat last Bills by Sponsors the way we treat first Eills?"

"The Gentleman frca Lake, Bepresentative Matijevich."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 House, I only rise because I think Bus and I and Gene Hoffman are the only ones left from 18 years ago in that class, and it's typical that Bus in his last Bill would have a Bill helping libraries. Bus has helped citizens of Illinois for the last 18 years. I'm happy to have been a part of his career, and I, along with everybody here, wish him well in November as he starts a new public career. Bus, you've done a great job here representing the people of Illinois. God bless you in the years ahead."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn." Dunn, J.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I, too, rise to express my appreciation to my seatmate. It's only been a year and a half that I've had the pleasure of sitting here on the floor of the House with Bus Yourell, but all five terms I've been here Bus Yourell has conducted himself as an outstanding Member of this General Assembly. And I would like to add my thoughts to those who wish him well as he leaves here and goes back to Cook County to be sworn in to countywide office in Cook County. It's been an honor to know Bus, to work with him, to sit with him, and it will also be nice for a downstater to be able to say, "I know somebody in countywide office in Cook County". And, Bus, we wish you the very, very best for many years.. up there. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Madam Speaker, Members of the Assembly, I rise, too, on something other than House Bill 2721, which can certainly be debated. What can't be debated is the contribution Representative Yourell has made to this chamber. Throughout the years that I've been a Member, his contribution in such areas as creating the Legislative Veto, his contribution on some of the things other Members 38  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 have mentioned and his contributions in this area should be lauded. But more than any of those things, his effort to bring before us a Constitutional Amenduent that would deal with the mandates that we continually impose on local government is something that should be congratulated and something that even after he leaves this chamber Members ought to remember and Members ought to make sure it gets passed in the next General Assembly and presented to the people. That Constitutional Amendment would be a fine tribute to Mr. Yourell's distinguished service in this House. I have... count it a pleasure to have served with him in this Assembly."

"The Lady from Cook, Bepresentative Barnes."

"I rise to wish the State Representative on the other side of the aisle a lot of good fortune in his new endeavors. My family and his family have been friends for 37 years, and I think it's been that long that on election day, Bus was cut there fighting for the Democrats, and I was out there fighting for the Republicans. But I would just like you to know, you can do that on election day and still maintain a warm, deep friendship. Good luck, Bus."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Bepresentative Keane."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just want to add my congratulations to Bus. We share a Senator. We both run out of the 14th Senatorial District. Also, Bus is my committeeman and will continue to be my committeeman. So, I have to pay proper homage to him. Bus, you have done an outstanding job as a State Bepresentative. I know you're going to do an equally good job as recorder cf county... Cook County Recorder of Deeds, and I know I speak for everyone in the House when we say godspeed and best of luck."

"The Gentleman from Knox, Representative 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day McMaster."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Let me add my words of congratulations to Bus Yourell. During my time down here up until this term when Bus moved to higher office to Chairman of the Democrat Caucus, Bus and I had the privilege of serving together on Counties and Townships Committee. One or the other of us was always the Chairman and the other one was always the Minority Spokesman. And I can only say this, that I learned a lot from Bus in my time here. We had the Committee that I think worked the best and the smoothest of any Committee down here, and we're going to miss Bus a great deal. He has my utmost respect and my words of congratulations and hope for a very, very good future in Cook County government. We're going to miss you, Bus."

"Gentleman... The Gentleman from Bureau, Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I, too, would like to lend my congratulations to an office mate, Bus Yourell, in his endeavors in Cook County and the City of Chicago. But on behalf of Representative Richmond, Representative Flinn and myself, now that you're leaving our golf foursome, maybe we'll get somebody who can play the game, Bus. Thank you very much and best wishes."

"The Lady from Lake, Representative Frederick."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I, too, would like to add my thank you to Bus Yourell for the kindness and the support he's given me all the years since I have been a Member of this Body. I wish you the best of everything, Bus, in your new career. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Panayotovich."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. As a freshman, Bus, and 40  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMPLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 15, 1984 speaking for the freshman class that we had, all I could say is thanks for your help. When se needed it, you were there. He helped us as we were finding our way through here and good luck to you in your career. Thank you."

"Gentleman from Lee, Bepresentative Olson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. On behalf of the Republican Election Committee, we want to add our congratulations to Eus Yourell as he goes to the Office of Recorder in Cook County. He's been an outstanding friend, a good help and godspeed, Eus."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Marzuki."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. If another freshman may be permitted to add a voice to this cccasion, Bus ended up as my keeper, and I must say that Bus always had time to give me the help I needed. Whenever I had a question, he was there to answer that question. I want to thank Pus, and I'll miss him a great deal."

"The Gentleman from Cock, Representative McAuliffe."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly, I would like to speak for all the Republican Legislators from Chicago and wish Bus Yourell great success in the future."

"The Gentleman from Cock, Representative DiPrima."

"Yes, Hadas Speaker, I would like to wish my very best wishes to Bus. Bus has been all the way with me on all veterans' legislation, and it's only fitting and proper that I wish him the same as County Beccrder. All the luck in the world, Eus. We're all with you. Yeah."

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Yourell, to close. 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day What do you say after all that?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. May 15, 1984 I... I hope we'll get back to this very important Bill, but I would like to thank all my friends in the Illinois House many who... that I have served with for many, many years. There's not too many of us left that started back in 1966, and certainly those days are days that have to be remembered, because in those days the House is not what it is today. And those of you who suffer through the travails and your dedication to this House can best be served by remembering that you will never serve in a more productive and rewarding Body than a legislative forum. It's with great dismay and certainly mixed emotions that I leave this Body; because, to leave a forum when you can present a point of view, an idea, and see that idea or point of view become a reality and have it signed into law by the Governor, is not the same as being a clerk II in Cook County. It's a forum that I will sorely miss, and those of you who remain, I wish you well and tell you one thing. Make every moment count down here, because you'll long remember your terms down here. You'll never have a more rewarding experience. If you have your name on one statute in those statute books, it will be well worth the time that you spent. I thank you all for your past favors, your indulgence and sometimes your indulgence and your favors were not deserved, because I have not been the most gracious recipient of those favors and... for... on all of those occasions. But... But I'm going to tell you one thing, that this is the greatest forum in the world. Don't misuse it. Don't abuse it. Respect it, and use it for the benefit of 12 million people in Illinois. I'm sure you'll do that. Madam Speaker, I ask for affirmative Roll Call on House Bill 2721."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2721 pass?" 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 All those in favor vote aye", all those opposed vote "no".. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 101 voting 'aye", 1 voting... Representative Karpiel wishes to be recorded as voting 'aye". Representative Hastert wishes to change his vote from 'no' to 'aye. On this question there are, therefore, 112 voting 'aye', none veting 'nce and none voting "present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, we will Dow return to page 13 on your Calendar, House Bills Second Reading. House Fill 3151, Representative Barnes. Gut of the record. House Bill 3152, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3152, a Bill for an Act creating the Commission for the Blind and amending certain Acts herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amenduents?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Fil1 3156, Bepresentative Hicks. Representative Hicks. Out of the record. House Bill 3162, Representative Bullock. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3162, a Eill for ar Act tc amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Vinson."

"Representative Vinson cn Amendment #1. Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. What 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day Speaker this Amendment does..."

"Excuse me, Representative Vinson. Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"

"Has the Amendment been distributed?"

"Mr. Clerk, has the Amendment been distributed? The Amendment has not been distributed. Representative Bullock, what is your pleasure? You have to move to table the Amendment. Representative Eullock moves to table Amendment #1 to House Bill 3162. And on that question, all those in favor say 'aye'. Representative Vinson."

"Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to the Motion to table. What the Amendment will do is to provide that money from the Lottery will go to Common School Fund and not to public aid for cost of living increases. What we have in this state is competition between the public aid budget and the school budget, and we have to make decisions about whether we're going to spend General Revenue Fund money, pardon me, General Revenue Fund money on public aid or whether we're going to spend it on schools. For the past decade, we've been spending it on public aid and not on schools, and this Amendment will insure that we spend it on schools and not Public Aid. I rise in opposition to the Motion."

"Excuse me, Representative. Representative Bullock, for reason do you rise?"

"A point of order, Madam Speaker. There is a Motion before the Body. If you would ask the Gentleman to confine the remarks to the Motion as opposed to the discussion of the merits of the Bill, I'd appreciate it."

"Representative, your point is well taken. Representative Vinson, confine your remarks to the Motion before us, and that is the Motion to table. Representative Vinson." 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

May 15, 1984 "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will confine my remarks to the Motion to table. The Motion to table will prevent us from spending more money on education, and it will insist that we spend more money on welfare, and I urge a 'no' vote on the Motion to table."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Fiel, on the Motion."

"On the Motion, Madam Speaker. I think what, you know... I would ask the Sponsor of the Motion to withdraw it. I think, you know, he's setting a very bad precedence. All... You know, in the last couple of weeks, we have given each Member a do process over here, and now all of a sudden there is an Amendment that he doesn't like. Let the Amendment go up or down. I think, you know, he should have time to let the Amendment be printed and distributed and then vote the Amendment either up or down as the Amendment itself. But I think the man is not being fair to all Members of the House when he turns around and wants to table a person's Amendment before we have a chance to really debate a specific issue. I would ask the Gentleman, therefore, to withdraw his Motion and in fairness to all Members of the House. Otherwise I think everybody in the House has had a situation at one time or another where they've held the Bill on Second Reading. We can get back to this and hear the Amendment at a later time."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 3162 be tabled?' Representative Fullock."

"To close."

"To close."

"Thank you. Madam Speaker and ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill, House Bill 3162, has been on our Calendar since about May 8th. It was introduced April 19th. It went through the appropriate Committee. It's 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 been on our Calendar. It did not just appear on Second Reading today. However, for the benefit of the Gentleman from... Representative Vinson and Representative Piel, the Amendment in question was only filed in this chamber today. The Amendment on it's face is not tirely. It's probably intended to obscure the real merits of this particular piece of legislation. I would ask those of you in this House who believe in fairness and believe in moving expeditiously with the business of this chamber that you vote 'aye' on the Motion to table so that we can proceed in an orderly fashion and address the issues that are so important to the State of Illinois during this Session and not yield to the obstructionism or the different shenanigans or chicanery that take place from time to time on such a simple issue. I urge an 'aye' vote on the Motion to table."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 3162 be tabled?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin, to explain his vote."

"Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. In explaining my 'aye' vote, we did send a Bill to the Governor which would do what this Amendment would do, and the Governor vetoed it. So, it seems to me it's fruitless to, even if you support the concept of the Amendment we want to table, to attempt to put it on this Bill at this point. It's just going to end up the way the Bill we passed last year did."

"This Motion requires a majority of those voting for passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 53 voting 'aye' and 62 voting 'no'." 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATF 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Representative Eullock."

"Madam Speaker, I have great respect for the Speaker of this House and the temporary Speaker, and I would never attempt to obstruct the business of this chamber; but, quite frankly, I'm chagrined, and I'm going to stand here and verify every red vote on that bcard."

"The Gentleman has requested a verification of the negative votes. Sepresentative Johnson."

"If he really means that, then he is being dilatoгу. Why would he want to verify every red vote when it's obvious a plurality of red votes are here. If he wants to verify the ones that are gone that's fine. Intent to be dilatory. Attempt to dilatoriness."

"Thank you, Representative. That will not be the ruling of the Chair. Bepresentative Bullock."

"Perhaps they teach new math down in Champaign, but where I come from the red votes prevail and it's prerogative of this chamber to verify at anytime. Also..."

"You are correct, Representative. The Gentleman from Dewitt, Representative Vinson, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, in the event that the verification should appear to succeed, I'd like to reserve my right to request a verification of the green vote."

"Very good. Mr. Clerk, proceed to the verification of the negative votes. Excuse me, Representative Friedrich, for what reason do you rise?"

"May I be verified, please?"

"Representative Bullock, may Representative Friedrich be verified? Representative Bullock. Representative Friedrich, that will be okay. Representative Davis asks for the same leave. Representative Nelson asks for the Sare leave. Froceed 47  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 with the verification."

"Barger. Barnes."

"Representative Fullock, for what reason do you rise?"

"Some of our distinguished Members are not familiar to me. If you could proceed at a reasonable pace and if they would kindly raise their hand, I'd appreciate it."

"Very good. Please be in your seats and raise your hand when your name is called for the purposes of a verification. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"Brummer."

"The Lady from Cock, Representative Topinka, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes. May I have leave to be verified?"

"The Lady asks leave to be verified, Representative Bullock. The Lady bas leave. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"Brunsvold. Churchill. Countryman. Cowlishaw. Curran. Daniels. Davis. De Jaegher. Deuchler. Didrickson. Balph Dunn. Ewing. Virginia Frederick. Dwight Friedrich. Hallock. Hannig. Harris. Hastert. Hawkinson. Hensel. Hoffman. BOBET. Johnson. Karpiel. Kirkland. Kleun. Koehler. Mautinc. Mays. McAuliffe. McCracken. McMaster. Mulcahey. Neff. Nelson. Cblinger. Olson. Pangle. Parcels. B. Pedersen. W. Peterson. Piel. Pullen. Bea. Bopp. Byder. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Slape. Stuffle. Tate. Topinka. Tuerk. Vinson. Wait. Winchester. Hojcik. Wcodyard, and Zwick."

"Bepresentative Bullock, do you have any questions of the Negative Foll Call?"

"Yes, Madam Speaker. Representative Zwick."

"Bepresentative Zwick. The Lady is in her chair." 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"Representative Woodyard." May 15, 1984

"Representative Woodyard is in his chair."

"Representative Winchester."

"Representative Winchester. Representative Winchester. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Tuerk."

"Excuse me. Representative Hicks, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes, Madam Speaker, change me from a "yes" to a "no" vote, please."

"The Gentleman asks leave to be change from "yes" to 'no', Representative Eullock."

"Tuerk."

"Representative Tuerk. Representative Tuerk. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? He is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Wait."

"Representative Wait. The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate. Representative Tate. The Gentleman is not in the chamber. Remove him."

"Representative Ropp."

"Representative Ropp. The Gentleman is in his chair."

"Slape."

"Representative Slape is in his chair."

"Representative Piel."

"Representative Piel. Representative Piel is in the chamber."

"Pangle."

"Representative Pangle. The Gentleman is by his 49  118th Legislative Day chair."

"Mautino." STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEGAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984

"Representative Mautino is in his chair."

"Mays."

"Representative Mays is in his chair."

"Koehler."

"Representative Taylor?"

"Koehler."

"Representative Koehler. Bepresentative Koehler is in the chamber."

"Hoffman."

"Bepresentative Hoffman is by his chair."

"Hallock."

"Representative Hallock is in his seat."

"Ewing."

"Representative Ewing is in his...by his chair."

"DeJaegher."

"Bepresentative... Repeat that please?"

"DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher is by his chair. Representative Christensen, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, could I change my vote from 'aye' to "no?"

"The Gentleman asks leave to change his vote from 'aye' to "no". Representative Bullock, do you have any further questions of the Negative Roll Call?"

"No."

"The Gentleman has no further questions of the Negative Roll Call. What is the count, Mr. Clerk? Representative Tate has returned to the Roll Call. Please add him to that Roll Call as a negative vote. There are 51 voting 'aye' and 62 voting 'no'. Representative Bullock, what is your pleasure?" 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF GEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"I'd like to take the Bill out of the record."

"The Bill will be taken from the record and remains on Second Reading. The Gentleman... Will remain on Second Reading. House Bill 3165, Representative Eraun. Representative Braun. Call the Bill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3165, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"NORE."

"Third Reading. Ecuse Bill 3172, Representative Vinson. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3172, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"NODE."

"Third Reading. Representative Vinson, for what reasca do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, the sole purpose for the Revenue Committee reporting this Bill do pass sas in the event that it would be used as a vehicle for dealing with the property tax exemption issue which не dealt with on an earlier Bill today. Conseguently, consistent with Y commitment to Chairman Pierce and Mr. McFike, I would like to ask leave of the Body to table the Eill now."

"The Gentleman asks leave to table House Bill 3172. Does the Gentleman have leave as the Chief Sponsor? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman bas leave. House Bill 3174, Bepresentative Homer. Out of the record. House Bill 3175, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3175, a Fill for an Act to create the 51  STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Hazardous Waste Clean-up Bond Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3176, Representative Keane and Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3176, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Frotection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Anenduents."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Fill 3177, Bepresentative Keane - Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3177, a Pill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Notions filed."

"Representative Cullerton, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes. I had asked Representative Keane to hold this Bill for an Amendment. It is a technical Amendment, and I would ask Representative Barnes if she could do that. Hazardous waste disposal facility isn't defined in the Act. What we... Be needed a cross-reference to the definition of the ΕΡΑ, and we were preparing the Amendment. And if you wouldn't mind, keep it on Second."

"House Bill 3177 will then be taken out of the record. House Bill 3178, Representative Koehler. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 3178, a Bill for an Act to amend 52  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Sections to amend certain Acts in relation to Environmental Protection. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Eill 3179, Representative Mautino. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3179, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 vas adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Nations filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendsents?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Beading. House Bill 3180, Representative Keane and Representative Barnes. Bepresentative Barnes, House Bill 3180. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 3180, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Ficor Amendments?"

"NODE."

"Third Reading. House Fill 3181, Representative Hicks. Out of the record. House Bill 3183, Representative Saltsman. Clerk, read the Fill."

"House Bill 3183, a Bill for ap Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. Second Feading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Aneodrests?"

"None." 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"Third Reading. House Bill 3189, Representative Madigan. Out of the record. House Bill 3193, Representative Currie. Out of the record. House Bill 3194, Representative Currie. Out of the record. House Bill 3195, Representative Currie. Clerk. Out of the record. House Bill 3201, Representative Domico, Representative Tate or Representative Ecnan. House Bill 3201. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3201, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Real Estate License Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3202, Representative Domico, Tate or Honan. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3202, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Real Estate License Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3203, Representative Countryman. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3203, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3204, Representative Hawkinson. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3204, a Bill for an Act to protect the public from electronic trespass and computer fraud. Second 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3205, Representative Woodyard. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3205, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Fish Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Representative Woodyard, for what reason do you rise? Representative Woodyard."

"Madam Speaker, has the Amendment been distributed on this Bill?"

"No it has not. Out of the record. House Bill 3206, Representative Winchester. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3206, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Winchester, amends Senate Bill 3206 (sic - House Bill 3206) by deleting the title and inserting lieu thereof the following."

"Mr. Clerk, has the Amendment been printed and distributed? No it has not been printed and distributed. What is your pleasure, Representative Winchester?"

"Has yours been... Is there no Amendments filed at all?"

"Two Amendments have been filed. None have been printed."

"Okay. Can we just..."

"Excuse me." 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFBESENTATIVES TRANSCBIFTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Can I take it out of the record, Kadam Speaker?"

"Yes, you may."

"And then come back to it."

"Very good."

"Thank you."

"Cat of the record. House Bill 3208, Representative Karpiel. Representative Karpiel. Clerk, read the Fill."

"House Bill 3208, a Bill for an Act to authorize the Department of Transportation to convey quick claim deed...title and interest and certain tracts of land herein described. Second Beading of the Fill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Ficor Amendments?"

"None."

"Representative Cullertoo, for reason do you rise?"

"I'm always standing. I turned my speak light on, because I wanted to speak."

"For what reason, Representative Cullerton?"

"I wanted to know if Doris has a...an appraisal."

"Representative Karpiel, do you have an appraisal filed on House Bill 3208?"

"Yes, I do."

"Bepresentative Karpiel indicates she does have an appraisal filed."

"And how many parcels of land are being conveyed?"

"Representative Karpiel, the guestion is, how many parcels of land are being conveyed under this Bill."

"If you can hold just a minute. Let De get my file. I'd be glad to answer the Representative's questions, Madam Chairman, but it would seem to me this is more appropriate for Third Reading." 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"No. No. May 15, 1984 I just want to know. I think there is... It looks like about 13. I just wondered if you had 13 appraisals or if it was all done in one appraisal, all the parcels done in one appraisal. It can't be moved to Third Reading unless all of the appraisals are in, that's why I'm questioning it on Second Reading. So..."

"Representative Karpiel, have you answered that? Is there one appraisal or 13 appraisals?"

"I have one appraisal that's been filed."

"And it's for all parcels?"

"For all parcels."

"Very good. Representative Cullerton, do you have any further questions? No further questions. Third Reading. House Bill 3216, Representative Nash. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3216, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois and an Act in relation to state finance. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3218, Representative Greiman. Out of the record. House Bill 3221, Representative Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 3227, Representative Turner. Representative Turner. Out of the record. House Bill 3229, Representative Bullock. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3229, a Bill for an Act in relation to a coastal zone in the State of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

May 15, 1984 "Floor Amendment #1, Flinn, amends House Bill 3229 on page 19 by deleting line 17 through 19 and so forth." "Representative Flinn? Representative Bullock, Speaker Breslin: to present the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is a technical Arendment which I agreed to. It basically writes into the statute the Joint Committee cn Administrative Bules provision. I know of no opposition to the Amendment, and I certainly would urge this adoption."

"The Gentleman MOVES for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bil1 3229. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #1 to House Eill 3229 be adopted?* All those in favor say "aye", all those opposed say 'nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Arendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, McAuliffe, amends House Bill 3229 as amended on line... page one, line nine by deleting 'Illinois Coastal Resources Management Act and inserting lieu thereof the following: Illincis Coastal Zone Management Act"."

"Fepresentative Johnson, for what reason do rise?" you

"I wonder if the Speaker would just...the Speaker and the Sponsor would consider taking this cut of the record temporarily until Representative McAuliffe has a chance to present his Amendments.."

"Representative Eullock, the question is, would you take the Bill out of the record to accommodate other Amendments that are filed but not printed and distributed. Is that correct, Bepresentative Johnson?"

"They're filed, printed and distributed. It's just 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Representative McAuliffe isn't here to present them. He had some other business."

"Ch. I see. Very good. They're filed, printed and distributed, Representative Bullock, but the Sponsor of the Amendment is not present to present them. Can you hold this Bill? Representative Pullock."

"Hell, Madam Speaker, I want to te supportive of you and the House. I'd like, perhaps, the Speaker to give me scre indication when you can assure ne that the Sponsors of these Amendments will, in fact, be on this floor. I have no idea when we'd get back to this Bill."

"We could come... With leave of the Assembly, we could come back to this Bill after we finish this Order of Business. Representative Vinson, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, if the Gentleman would consent, I sure that we would give him leave to come back as soon as we... as Mr. McAuliffe comes to the floor and will endeavor to get him here very quickly."

"Well Representative Eullock's reguest was that we do So, I think, today. NOW if that mean... My suggestion was that we come back at the end of this Order of Business, which is not very far away. We're almost to the end. So, is that acceptable? Representative Bullock,

"Certainly the distinguished Spokesman, Representative Vinson, is noted for his promptness; and, if he could get his membership to follow suit, I'd have no objection."

"Very good. Out of the record. Bepresentative Karpiel, the Clerk has notified BE that they have no appraisal in their file for Bouse Fill 3208. Would you look into that matter for us, please? Bepresentative Karpiel, will you come to the Clerk's desk to resolve this 59  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 matter? House Bill 3230, Representative Madigan. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3230, a Bill for an Act to provide for additional Judges in the circuit of Cook County. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 vas adopted in Committee."

"Representative... Are there any Notions filed or any Floor Arendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Vinson."

"Bepresentative Vinson, en Azendment #2."

"Thank you, Kadam Speaker, Members of the Assembly. Now, what the Pill in its present posture does is create a merit process for filling certain judicial vacancies. And those judicial vacancies by the Bill are filled by... under the authority of the Supreme Court. What the Amendment does is to change the appoint of authority for filling those vacancies. ID other words, we say the merit concept is good, but the new appointing authority in the City of Chicago would be the Mayor of Chicago and in the rest of the state would be the Governor. So what we're doing is giving power for filling those vacancies in the City to the Mayor and in the rest of the state to the Governor rather than to the Supreme Court. And what it does is it recognizes that there is a policy aspect involved here and that high elected officials ought to be involved. We ought not have the Court perpetuate its con philosophy through filling vacancies. Father. ve cught to have those philosophical aspects of the appointment passed upon by the highest elected officials in the two areas of the state. So we give power to the Mayor in Chicago, and we give power to the Governor out of the City of Chicago. And I would 60  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 urge adoption of the Amendment. I think this is something that Chicago and downstate can come together on."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 3230. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would rise in opposition to the Amendment. The first point, perhaps most important, is that the Amendment is clearly unconstitutional. We know from reading the Constitution, Section 9(a), that the General Assembly shall have no power to elect or appoint officers of the Executive Branch. The portion of the Amendment that says that the Governor shall make the appointments to fill the vacancies, instead of the Supreme Court makes it an executive board, an executive agency, and it's clear then that the Bill would conflict with that Section of the Constitution. Secondly, Representative Vinson said that high elected public officials should be making these appointments. Well, that's what the Supreme Court is. The Supreme Court is elected, and they are... I would consider them to be high public officials. And it's clearly absurd to get involved with having a mayor of one city in the State of Illinois make the appointment of Judges and have it only apply to one city. The Bill starts off the process of filling judicial vacancies through a merit plan. This would be a step in the wrong direction; and, for that reason I would oppose the Gentleman's Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Jaffe."

"Yes, Madam Speaker and Members of the House, I also rise in opposition to this Amendment. If you read the Chicago Tribune this morning, you will find that the Tribune endorsed this particular Bill in its present form. I think 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 what Representative Vinson is trying to do is he's trying to take this Bill, make it completely unpalatable and wants to defeat the merit selection of Judges. Now I would say that if Representative Vinson were sincere in this regard, he would leave this Bill go just as it is. I think he knows that by putting on that Amendment, that that would essentially kill this particular Bill. So, Representative Vinson, if you want to be responsible for killing off merit selection of Judges, try to put this Amendment on, and I think you're going to find out that the people of this state are not going to like it very much. So I would urge you to vote no on this particular Amendment because all it is a... it's a mischief Avendsent that does nothing but gut the Bill."

"The Gentleman frow Cock, Bepresentative Madigan. Speaker Hadigan."

"Thank ycu, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Amendment. The thrust of the Bill is to provide for a selection procedure for the filling of judicial vacancies that would remove the process from partisan politics so that the Bill attempts to provide for an appointive syster for filling judicial vacancies. It provides that there shall te nominating commissions selected by lawyers in a circuit or a district. It further provides that there shall lay people appointed by the Governor and the legislative leaders. The Amendment would provide that the ultimate appointment would be made by the Governor rather than by the Supreme Court and then in the case of the City of Chicago, apparently, it provides that the Mayor would make the appointment. So that on its face it runs completely contrary to the thrust of the Bill; and, for those reasons the Arendment should be rejected."

"The Gentleman from Marion, Representative 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION LEВАТЕ May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day Friedrich."

"Well, in response to Bepresentative Jaffe's comments, I do want to eliminate merit selection. So, I suppose I better be for this Arendment. Nobody down my way believes in merit selection. They believe in government by the people: that the people elect the Judges, the Representatives, the GovernoΣ and everybody else in government. So I... And for that reason, I would like to help kill the Bill if that's what this does."

"There being DC further discussion, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson, to close."

"Madam Speaker, I am pleased to welcome the Speaker of the House to the cause of merit selection of Judges in Illinois. It's a cause many people have thought for a long period of time, and his support for the concept is certainly welcome and, I'm sure, Doves closer to reality the possibility of realizing merit selection. What this Amendment simply does is to attempt to make the process a better process. I do not believe that the people of Illinois will accept the concept that Judges alone should select Judges. That flies in the face of the entire concept of who's going to guard the guardians which WE'VE beep taught for a long period of our history is the most important question in the process cf self-government. I would urge adoption of the Arendment, not as a negative...not in a negative spirit toward the Bill. I think it is a good Bill. I just simply think the Amendment will improve it, and I will certainly vote for the Bill on Third Reading in that event. I would rise in support of the Amendment and urge 'aye votes on it."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 3230. And on that question, all those in favor vote 'aye, and all these opposed vote 'no". 63  118th Legislative Cay STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY EODSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Cn this question, there are 37 voting... Representative Brookins asks leave to be request... asks leave to be voted 'no". And on that question, there are 37 voting *aye", 72 voting 'no", and 1 voting present, and this Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Cullerton."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, this is a technical Amendment to the Bill, and I ask for the adoption."

"The Gentleman asks for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 3230. And on that question, is there any discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 3230 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye, all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Matijevich in the Chair."

"Page 24 of the Calendar, House Bill 3231. Out of the record. House Bill 3232, Doug Huff. Out of the record. House Bill 3233, Brcokins. Read the Eill."

"House Bill 3233, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Highway Code. Second Reading of the Fill. No Committee Amendments."

"Amendments from the floor?"

"NODE."

"Third Reading. House Fill 3234, Brookins. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 3234, a Bill fGI an Act to amend 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF GEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Sections of the Illinois Highway Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Amendments from the floor?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Fill 3239, Breslin. Read the Eill."

"House Bill 3239, a Bill for an Act relating to the utility deposits required cn behalf of small businesses. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Amendments from the floor?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Ereslin, amends House Bi Bill 3229 (sic - House Bill 3239) on page two, line 35 and so forth."

"Representative Ereslin, on Amendment #1."

"I ask leave to withdraw Amendment #1."

"Leave to withdraw. Leave. And Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Breslin."

"Representative Freslin, on Amendment #2."

"Amendment #2 is being put in at the request of the public utility companies sho are the only people that testified in opposition to this Eill. It reduces the definition of those people who operate a small business to include those who have fifty or less full-time employees. In addition to that, it eliminates any reference to a change in the rate of interest for small business people, and it makes that rate cf interest determined by the Commission, which was their request."

"Representative Breslin has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2. There being no discussion, all in favor say "aye", opposed "nay". And Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?" 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"No further Amendments." May 15, 1984

"Third Reading. ficuse Bill 3240, Currie. Read the Bill."

"House Fill 3240, a Bill for an Act concerning the allocation of certain funds. Second Beading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Amendments from the floor?"

"None."

"Third Reading. 3243. Representative Turner, are you back there? I don't see the Gentleman. Out of the record. 3246, Ronan. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 3246, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Amendments from the flo012"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3253, Braun - White. Out of the record. House Eill 3255, Braun. Gut of the record. We will revert back now to page three of the Calendar, House Bills Second Reading. House Bill 315, Yourell. Gut of the record. House Bill 704, Younge. Out of the record. House Fill 713, Pierce. Out of the record. 1004, out. 1210, out. 1211, out. 1216, out. 1302, Hannig. Cut of the record. 1395, cut. House Bill 1535, Levin. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1535, a Eill for an Act to add Sections to the Illincis Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Amendments from the floor?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Vinson, amends House Bill 1535 on page one, by deleting line nine through 12 and sc forth."

"Representative Vinson. You're cn Amendment 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day #1, Representative Vinson. The Gentleman Bepresentative Vinson." May 15, 1984 from DeWitt,

"Mr. Speaker, would you withdraw Amendment #1, please?"

"Leave to withdraw Amendment #1. Leave. And Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Levin."

"The Gentleman frce Cook, Representative Levin, on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, г. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House."

"I understand they have not been printed and distributed. So we better take this cut of the record."

"Ckay. Can se have leave to come back to it?"

"Leave to return to this Order. Leave. House Bill 1556, Zwick. Read the Fill."

"House Bill 1556, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments 2 and 3 were adopted in...were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Amendments from the floor?"

"Floor Amendment #4, Zwick and Nelson, amends House Bill 1556 as amended."

"Representative Zwick on Amendment #4. It's not printed."

"It's not printed?"

"Out of the record. Leave to return. Leave. House Bill 1800. Is Representative Homer here? Out of the record. House Bill 2040, Ryvetter Younge. Bead the Bill."

"House Bill 2040, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Frotection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 5, 6 and 7 were 67  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOOSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendsents?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"This Bill, therefore, goes to Third Reading on the Order of Consideration Postponed, Bepresentative Younge. House Bill 2208, Representative Younge. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2208, a Eill for an Act in relation to county property tax abatement, occupation and use taxes. Second Reading of the Eill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Notions filed."

"Are there any Floor Asendnerts?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Beading. Ecuse Fill 2211, Representative Greiman. Out of the record. Eause Bill 2213, Depresentative Alexander. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2213, a Bill for an Act regarding the protection of human rights. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Alexander, we'd like leave to come back to this Bill. We don't have the Bill in front of OS at this tire. We will сове back immediately. Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?"

"A question of the Chair of the Clerk, Madam Speaker. Is this a wisprint on the Calendar? I was taken back a little bit when we went to the... we called the Bill OD Second Reading and then we moved it to Third Heading Consideration Fostponed. Could you explain...?"

"That was House Eill 2040."

"Right." 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"And that vas on the Order of Second Reading because it needed Amendments and was, therefore, printed on this Calendar. It has now, therefcre, noved... Is that correct, Mr. Clerk? It went back to Interim Study from the Order of Consideration Fostponed. When it came out with new Amendments, it now goes back to that same Crder of Business."

"In other words... the question I have, its a misprint as far. as the Calendar. It should gc OD Consideration postponed, correct, and not onto Second Beading?"

"We put it on Second Reading because there were new Amendments, and that is the only way to consider those new Arenduents."

"Well, is it for the purpose of a Motions? For the purpose of Hotions, is that correct. Mr. Clerk? Fine. Thank you very much."

"Correct. Representative Alexander, we now have Bouse Bill 2213."

"House Bill 2213, a Bill for an Act regarding protection of human rights by counties and municipalities. Second Beading of the Bill. Amendment #2 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Notions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Fil1 2215, Βεpresentative Bowman. Cut of the record. Eouse Bill 2278, Representative Huff. Representative Euff. Out of the record, House Bill 2279, Bepresentative Greiman. Out of the record. House Bill 2299, Representative McPike Currie. House Bill 2299. Out of the record. House Bill 2321, Representative Topinka. Out of the record. House 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Bill 2323, Representative Braun. Cut of the record. House Bill 2334, Representative Madigan. Representative Madigan. Out of the record. House Bill 2350, Representative Currie. Representative Currie. Out of the record. House Bill 2364, Representative Pangle. Clerk, read the Fill."

"House Bill 2364, a Bill for ap Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Lottery Law. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Flcor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Vinson, amends..."

"Representative. Excuse me."

"Amends House Bill 2364 as amended in the title and so forth."

"Bepresentative Vinson."

"Nadam Speaker, I think that the Boll Call... the board is inaccurate. I think we're on Amendment #2."

"2364, Amendment #2. That's correct."

"Madam Chairman, I withdraw the Amendment."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #...withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Atenduents."

"Third Reading. On page six of your Calendar appears House Bill 2366, Representative Fanayotovich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2366, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Frotection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Panayotovich, amends House Bill 2366 on page four, line 13 and so forth." 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"Representative Panayotovich."

May 15, 1984 "Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill addresses a problem that's been around for many, many years. This Eill has been up many times about landfills and the problem of landfills. In a district such as mine and Bepresentative Giglio's where we have 33 landfills in a district, one along side the cther, it becomes a big problem. This Eill was intended to stop the future landfill sites within a five mile radius. The Amendment calls for the...a population figure and a people figure as we call it, to come in there. In case we have a strip of land where we can put two cr three landfills in cne site, this would allow us to do so. And I ask for immediate adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #232313 to House Bill 2366, And on that question, the Gentleman from Bureau, Representative Mautino."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"The Gentleman will yield to a question."

"This is an interesting Arendment, Representative Panayotovich. I don't quite understand the rationale, but what I think I'm reading is that your disallowing establishment of landfills in retropolitan areas, and your Amendment would then place those facilities in downstate sites where there is an existing one. Is that basically what this Amendment does?"

"Shat we're trying to do with the Amendment is to spread out the landfill problem that wE have within the City of Chicago."

"I understand that very well. To my downstate friends on both sides of the aisle, I recommend that you evaluate this Amendment very clearly and very carefully. I 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 recommend most highly that you oppose this Amendment or you will be the recipient in downstate areas of any additional problem that would occur in any metropolitan area as it pertains to any landfill. I recommend a "no" vote on this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Representative Mautino has said it very well. He is very right. If we continue adopting restrictions of this nature, if we adopt an Amendment like this, then what we're saying is that we're going to have to dispose of those wastes all over downstate Illinois; and, for that reason, I would urge a 'no' vote. Everybody's got a share in this problem. Everybody has to bear part of the burden, because we, in fact, caused the problem. And we should not zone one part of the state free and one zone of the part of the state for hazardous waste, and that's what this Amendment attempts to do. It's a very bad Amendment for a hundred and one counties in the State of Illinois. And I would urge a 'no' vote."

"The Lady from Marshall, Representative Koehler."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. I wish to also join the chorus in opposition to this particular Amendment and to the legislation itself. In fact, the Sponsor, when he had the Bill heard in the Energy and Environment Committee, mentioned that he felt it was important to send the waste elsewhere other than in his particular Legislative District. And we all know where elsewhere is. It is elsewhere throughout the state, and we would appreciate it if you would vote 'no' on this particular Amendment and then carefully watch the legislation." 72  STATE OF ILLINGIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"There being no further May 15, 1984 discussion, the Gentleman from Cock, Representative Panayotovich, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I guess it's called take your garbage and shove it, but I'm not trying to take a certain area such as Chicago and make it landfill free. We're talking about a radius of five miles of an existing site. We're trying to let areas that have a big, big area with many many dumps... We're trying rectify that problem, and I just ask for an 'aye vote. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 2366 be adopted?* All those in favor vote aye", all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? fave all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Bepresentative Panayotovich, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes, Madam Speaker, I would ask leave of the House to take this Bill and put into Interis Study."

"On the Amendment, there are 19 voting aye, 78 voting 'nc, and 3 voting "present". And the Amendment fails. The Gentleman who is the Sponsor of the Eill asks leave to put this Bill into Interin Study, House Bill 2366. Is there any objection? Hearing no objection, the Fill is on Interim Study. Out of the record. House Bill 2368, Representative Madigan. House Bill 2376, Representative Daniels Madigan. Out of the record. House Bill 2386, Representative DiPrima. Out of the record. House Bill 2401, Representative Vinson. Clerk, read the Eill. Out of the record. House Bill 2416, Lepresentative Hicks. Representative Hicks. Out of the record. House Bill 2417, Representative Fangle. Clerk, read the Fill."

"House Bill 2417, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to fire protection 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 districts. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Pangle, amends House Bill 2417 as amended."

"Representative Fangle. Representative Pangle."

"Yeah. I would like to have that Bill left on Second Reading, Mr. Speaker (sic Madan Speaker)." Speaker Breslin: #Out of the record. House Bill 2419, Representative Rea. Representative Bea. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2419, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illincis. Second Beading of the Bill. Nc Committee Amendrents."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Rea, abends House Bill 2419 on page one, line 16 and so forth."

"Representative Bea."

"I ask for leave to withdraw Amendments 1 and 2."

"Leave to withdraw Amendments #1 and 2. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, Rea, amends House Bill 2419 on page one, line 16 and so forth."

"Representative Rea."

"I would now move for adoption of Asendsent 3 which is a clarifying Amendment, does the same thing, does not change the Bill cther than clarification."

"The Gentleman asks leave to... The Gentleman asks to amend House Bill 2419 by the adoption of Amendment #3. Are there any questions? Bearing no discussion, the 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEВАТЕ 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 tc Ecuse Bill 2419 be adopted?* All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2423, Representative Rea. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 2423, a Bill foΣ an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there Amendments filed?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Kirkland, amends House Bill 2423 as amended in the title and so forth."

"Representative Kirkland. Amendment #3 to House Bill 2423. Do you wish to withdraw this Amendment? Has the Amendment been printed and distributed? Yes, it has been printed and distributed, Representative."

"This Amendment states that until January 1, 1995, each taxpayer subject to the Act shall be entitled to a credit against tax due of an amount equal to five percent in the amount spent during the taxable year by such taxpayers on solar collectors, solar storage mechanisms or sclar energy systems as defined in the Revenue Act, 1939. I ask for passage."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill1 2423. And on that question, the Gentleman from Franklin, Representative Bea."

"Madam Speaker and Members of the Ecuse, I rise in opposition to Amendment 3 because it calls for the...it calls for the tax credits for the solar energy equipment 75  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEF  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Sections of the Illinois Act on the Aging. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Christensen - Curran, amends House Bill 2426 on page one, line one and so forth."

"Representative Curran."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #1 simply adds some technical language to the Bill and adopts an in home... Madam Speaker, I'm told that the Amendment is not yet printed."

"Mr. Clerk, has the Amendment been printed and distributed? No, it has not. What is your pleasure, Representative Curran?"

"We'll hold the Bill."

"Cut of the record. House Bill 2443, Representative Woodyard. Clerk, read the Bill. No. Cut of the record. Wait a minute, Representative Woodyard on House Bill 2443."

"Madam Speaker, has the Amendment been printed and distributed?"

"Mr. Clerk? No, the Amendment has not been printed and distributed. Out of the record. House Bill 2470, Representative Currie. Out of the record. House Bill 2510, Representative Levin. Representative Levin - Doyle. Cut of the record. House Bill 2512, Representative Churchill. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2512, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Churchill, amends House Bill 77  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 2512 on page one, line ten and so forth."

"Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would ask for leave to withdraw Amendment #1 at this time."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #1. Excuse me, Amendment #2, Bepresentative Churchill?"

"Amendment #1."

"The... That was a Committee Amendment, and it has been adopted already. Your Motion then is to table Amendment #1. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, all those in favor say "aye', all those opposed say "nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes" have it. Amendment #1 is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Churchill, amends House Bill 2512 on page one, line ten and so forth."

"Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #2 is basically the same as Amendment #1, except that it clears up some language to prepare the Bill for Amendment #3. Had I put on Amendment #3 without changing that, the Bill would not have made any sense."

"Is your Motion just to adopt Amendment #2?"

"YES."

"The Motion is to adopt Amendment #2 to House Bill 2512. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes" have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Churchill, amends House Bill 2512 on page one, line two." 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day

"Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Amendment #3 creates four changes in the Bill. There is a $50,000 cap limitation on notice that would be provided to taxing bodies. In any situation where a taxpayer wished to challenge an assessment through the Board of Review or through the Property Tax Appeal Board, where a change of $50,000 was required, they must notify all of the taxing bodies that were listed on their last known tax bill. At that point, the taxing bodies would have the right to file a request to intervene as an interested party, and then they would be a part of the proceedings and would receive notices from that point on. This Bill... The Amendment also creates a presumption favor of the local assessors, unless one of the interested party can show by a preponderance of the evidence that the assessment is incorrect. And finally, the Bill puts on a back-door referendum for those taxing bodies that are required to pay back dollars because of a value reduction where the taxes had already been paid and the taxpayer requested a refund. I would move for it's adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 2512. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question. Representative Churchill, you will yield for a question? Yes."

"Yes. The $50,000, is that $50,000 in assessed valuation or fair market value or equalize valuation?"

"It would be a request to change the assessed valuation by more than $50,000."

"I see. The Bill as originally introduced provided 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 that the... Perhaps I should ask you, bow was the notification... who was responsible for the notification in the Bill as originally introduced?"

"The Property Tax Appeal Board or the Board of Review."

"They would notify all of the taxing authorities."

"Under the original Bill. Under the Amendment, Representative, the... it would be up to the taxpayer who was requesting the change in the assessed valuation to show as a part of the hearing that that taxpayer had notified taxing districts listed on the last known tax bill."

"Well, give me an idea how many taxing bodies there might be. Well what's... on the range?"

"On my local tax bill it would be about 23 taxing bodies, 24 taxing bodies."

"So in order to get your...a change in your assessed valuation, and we presume that taxpayers are trying to get it lowered, not raised."

"That's the assumption."

"He's got to send out notices to 23 different taxing bodies telling them that he's trying to get his assessed valuation lowered."

"Just as if you were to go into court and request something through a court proceeding, you would have to serve a summons on all 23 of those bodies also."

"Okay. How much time... How does your Bill affect the schedule of the process of appealing in assessed valuation?"

"It does not mention anything in regards to time. It's a proper... The amount of time required by the Board of Review at this time would remain the same, and I believe the Property Tax Appeal Board has no time limitation on its appeals." 80  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984

"Okay. Could you tell us about the general obligation bonds Section of the Bill? What does your Amendment do to that Section of the Bill?"

"What it says is that if a taxpayer does receive a reduction in assessed valuation, and the taxing bodies are required to refund to the taxpayer for dollars already collected, that the taxing bodies would have the right to bond to cover that payback with a back-door referendum so that they would have the money to be able to pay back this amount that was already collected. For example, last year in Zion there was a case that required all the taxing districts in the Zion area to pay back seven and a half million dollars and that was a change that was made up in the Zion Nuclear Plant. And that's scuething that when you have a seven and a half million dollar obligation, it's almost impossible for a taxing body to сове up with that out of current funding."

"Thank you. No further questions."

"The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Brummer."

"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield fcr a question."

"I guess I'm kind of mystified as to why you want to provide notice go to these various units of government. I realize that the assessment forms, the basis against which they levy a tax rate, but they are not involved in determining the level of assessment in the first place. And it just doesn't make any sense to me to impose this obligation on a taxpayer to notify parties or individuals or units of government who are not involved in establishing the assessment level."

"In a case that was the instigation of this Fill in which it affected the Marrict Great America, all of the 81  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 15, 1984 local taxing bodies wished to have a voice in the process where there was an appeal. And because of the fact that they never received a notice, they did not know this process was going on until the taxpayer had already gone through the Board of Review and was at the State Tax... Property Tax Appeals Bcard. What the taxing bodies would like is at least some time to be able to intervene in the process and, if they wish to make a statement as to the property tax assessment change, at least they would have that opportunity to be there, be a part of the process."

"Madam Speaker, may I briefly address the Amendment?"

"Proceed."

"I would suggest everyone look very careful at this, particularly the notice provision. It seems to me that you're interfering with the area that's primarily the prerogative initially at the level of the township assessor and then the supervisor of assessment, and then the Board of Review and the State Property Tax Appeal Bçard. Those are the entities that are charged with determining the assessment, and, you know, I don't think we want το...Ι don't think its a good idea to get park districts involved in the assessment process and schccl districts, and cities, and townships, and community college districts and all of the other 23 units of government, and as to what Representative Churchill indicated may have keen involved in a particular instance to which he alluded. As cne who does some...represent individuals objecting to assessments at times and appearing before the Ecard of Review, the... it seems to me that the taxpayers are already playing the weaker hand, if you will. The Board of Review makes the decision and the State Property Tax Appeal Board. And to require particularly the taxpayer to give notice as a condition of hearing with regard to all those units of 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 government seems to me to be an imposition of an undue burden on the taxpayer who is attempting to have his assessment lowered, particularly when you're notifying people who are not involved in setting the assessment level in the first place. They don't set the level. The Board of Review does, or the assessor, or the supervisor of assessment or the State Property Tax Appeal Board. So, it just doesn't seer to me to be reasonable to require that that notice go to those other 23 units of government who do not have anything to do with establishing the assessment level. Therefore, I would respectfully suggest a negative vote on this issue."

"The Gentleman from Cock, Representative O'Connell."

"Question of the Sponsor."

"The Gentleman will yield to a question."

"Presently, for example, a schcol district would nct receive notice that there is a hearing on an assessment valuation."

"That is correct."

"If the school district, for example, in a given instance, received a notice -cr strike that - for som reason did not receive a notice, if this were to be law, is there some restriction on the assessed valuation that can be levied because the school didn't get the proper notice?"

"The Arenduent states that if the taxpayer cannot prove that notice was served on a taxing districts, then that could be grounds for dismissal of the cause."

"Okay. To the Fill, Madam Speaker. I would support this Amendment, because I think it addresses a very serious problem that is affecting primarily the downstate areas. I wish there was something in Cook County, but I think the problem is more prevalent in downstate areas, especially as 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 it relates to school districts. If a school district does not appear at the Property Tax Appeal hearing, the school district will waive any rights to make an appeal as to the valuation. If they fail to appear at the assessed valuation and the assessed valuation is reduced, they lose their rights to appeal to a proper court of law. The State Board of Education has interpreted the failure to appeal to a court of law that that automatically eliminates any recomputation of the school formula because the matter has been resolved, and they do not have a court order to sho that the recomputation should be made. Presently, there are a number of school districts that don't get notice, that don't appear at a Froperty Tax Appeal hearing, and they waive their rights to appeal to a court of law, and they cannot get their school aid recomputed. I would applaud this Amendment and would suggest that it be adopted."

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Lake, Representative Churchill, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The intent of this Amendment, which is basically the intent of the Bill, is to correct a David and Goliath type of situation. When the local property tax assessor from the township assesses a piece of property, particularly in one these difficult to assess properties, such as Great America, or a nuclear plant, or an oil refinery, something that is a difficult parcel of property and all of a sudden receives a notice that that assessment is being challenged at the Board of Review or at the Property Tax Appeal Ecard, it becomes a battle of the large corporation with its twenty-five attorneys and thirty-five CFAs versus the local township assessor. Often the township doesn't have the funds available to hire a batter of the CFAs and attorneys to 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 back up the local tax assessor. What this Bill and this Amendment seeks to do is to bring the taxing bodies together behind the local tax assessor so that by pooling their Common information and pooling their common funds, that they have a chance to egual and even the score out SO that they can go before the Property Tax Appeal Board with more information and more argusents and more people that can support that. This is a Fill that tries create a situation of a equality, a situation of notice, a situation of fair play to allow taxing bodies to be a part of this process. And I think that it's a good Bill. I think it's a good Amendment, and I would ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Arendment #3 to House Bill 2512. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all vcted sho wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 74 voting aye', 17 voting 'no', and 6 voting present. This Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. With leave of the Body, I'd like to go back to House Bill 2510, Representative Levin. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 2510, a Bill for an Act in relation to persons who pay certain delinquent taxes. Second Beading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"NODE."

"Third Reading. Bouse... Representative Piel, for what reason do you rise?m

"Just a question of the Clerk. I notice on our Calendar, it says that a fiscal note was requested. Bas the fiscal note been filed?" 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Yes, it has."

"Thank you."

"House Bill 2545, Representative Laurino, Matijevich or Ronan. House Bill 2545. Out of the record. House Bill 2558, Representative Cullerton. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2558, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the Metropolitan Fair and Exposition Authority Reconstruction Fund and the Metropolitan and Fair..."

"NO. House... This..."

"Wrong Bill."

"Excuse me, we're on House Bill 2558."

"House Bill 2558, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code of 1961. Second..."

"Cut of the record. Eouse Bill 2566, Representative Wojcik. Representative Wojcik. Cut of the record. House Bill 2606, Representative Hannig. Clerk, read the bill."

"House Bill 2606, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Flcor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Sautino, amends..."

"Representative Nautino. The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #1. Does the Gentleman have leave? The Gentleman has leave. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Representative Hannig, a State Mandates Act fiscal note was requested on this Bill. Has it been filed? It has been filed. One moment, please, Representative Hannig. Mr. Clerk, has the proper fiscal note been filed? 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day Representative Hannig. May 15, 1984 Representative Hannig, would you approach the podium please? We'll take this Bill cut of the record for the tire being. House Bill 2613, Representative Bea. Out of the record. House Bill 2620, Representative Capparelli. Bill 2620, with Representative Capparelli. Representative Giorgi. House Out of the record. House Bill... House Bill 2671, Representative Greiman. Excuse me, Representative Capparelli, did you want that Bill called? House Bill  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day of the record. House Bill 2747, Bepresentative Bouse Bill 2747. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 2747, May 15, 1984 McAuliffe. a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Fill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Representative McAuliffe. Out of the record. Out of House Bill 2762, Representative Mautino. Out of the record. House Bill 2763, Representative Cullerton. the record. House Bill 2775, Representative Madigan. Out of the record. House Bill 2812, Беpresentative Hoffman. Bepresentative Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 2869, Representative Kirkland. 2869. Clerk, read the Fill."

"House Bill 2869, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Confidentiality Act. Developmental Second Reading of the Bill. Disabilities Arendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Kirkland, amends House Bill 2869 as amended, and so forth."

"Representative Kirkland."

"Withdraw Amendment #2."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #2. Hearing no objection, Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Kirkland."

"Bepresentative Kirkland."

"Amendment #3. redrafts the Eill. The Bill comes out of a report by the Illinois Criminal Justice Information 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Lay May 15, 1984 Authority report to the Illinois General Assembly on missing young adults, and it goes to two Sections, one on walkways and one on missing persons. The... So there are two Sections. First, Section 12.2(a) goes to the issue of walkaways and indicates that when a recipient of the mental health system is judicially or involuntarily admitted to a facility and... or let's see, admitted to the facility, and is on an unauthorized absence or has otherwise left the facility without being discharged or free to do so the director shall furnish and disclose to the law enforcement agency identifying information. That's already the law, and this adds such other information unrelated to diagnosis treatment or evaluation of the recipient's mental health or physical health that will aid law enforcement in locating and apprehending the walkaway, the missing recipient. And that's recommended by this report. The section... The second Section, it goes to missing persons and says if a law enforcement agency requests infcreation from a mental health or developmental disability facility as to a recipient who's been admitted for whom a missing person report has been filed with the law enforcement agency, the facility director shall, except in the case of a voluntary recipient unless that recipient gives written permission, furnish and disclose to the law enforcement agency, again, identifying information necessary to confirm or deny whether that person is or has been, since the report was filed, a recipient, a resident of the facility. And the director may further, may further, notify the law enforcement agency if the missing person is admitted subsequent to the request. This again goes to the exact recommendation of the report, and this Amendment, which again is a redraft, is favored by the Illinois Physchiatric Society and the Department of Mental Health. I ask that 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 the Amendment be adopted; that the Bill be moved to Amendment 3 in this form."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 2869. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Jaffe."

"Would the Gentleman yield to a guestion? Just so we make absolutely sure, what new information can they now give cut according to this Amendment, relative to that particular patient?"

"You talking about walkaway or missing person?"

"Both."

"Well, missing person... Identify... Let's go to missing person first. Indentifying information is defined in the statute and existed already."

"What does that actually consist of? I don't know."

"Identifying information means the name, address, age, name of the nearest relative and a physical description of the recipient of services."

"A clinical... Did you say clinical... What sort of description?"

"Physical."

"A physical description. What about the other category?"

"Walkaways, the same indentifying information and then other information, but excepting, you know, not allowing clinical information but other information shich may help the facility locate the walkaway."

"Okay. So, basically what you're saying is you're not giving out any clinical information or information concerning that person's condition, but your just giving out identifying information."

"That's exactly correct."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Is there any further discussion? There being 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATP 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 no further discussion, the Gentleman from Kane, Representative Kirkland, to close."

"I ask for adoption of the Amendment."

"The question is 'Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 2869 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'nay". In the crinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Second Reading, appropriation Bills only, on page seven - we will start with that Crder of Business - there appears House Eill 2549, Representative Capparelli. Clerk, read the Fill."

"House Bill 2549, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Metropolitan Fair and Exhibition Authority Reconstruction Fund. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None"

"Third Reading. House Bill 2626, Representative Hastert Daniels. We are on the Order of appropriation Bills, Ladies and Gentlemen. Second Reading. House Bill 2626, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2626, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Children and Family Services. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Notions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments." 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Third Reading. House Bill 2627, Representative Barnes - Daniels. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2627, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Environmental Protection Agency. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Slape, amends House Bill 2627 on page ten by inserting after line 16 the following, and so forth."

"Representative Slape. Representative Slape."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #1 to House Bill 2627 inserts a million one hundred thousand dollars for a sewer project for the Village of Murrayville. And I'd ask for this Amendment's adoption."

"The Gentleman has asked for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2627. On that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #...'. Hearing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Kulas, amends House Bill 2627 on page four in line 29 and so forth."

"Representative Kulas."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman of the House. Amendment #2 to House Bill 2627 cuts the contractual service line item in the water pollution control division by 25,000 dollars. And I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The Gentleman has asked for the adoption of 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Amendment #2 to House Bill 2627. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is... Excuse me, the Lady from Cook, Representative Barnes."

"Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Does... Representative Kulas, does this affect a certain person or what is the purpose of the Amendment?"

"Well, the purpose of the Amendment is they have a line item for a guard at the salary of 43,000 dollars, and I'm cutting that salary by 25,000 dollars."

"What area of the state is this position located in?"

"This is a security guard at the Churchill Road office."

"Are there any further questions? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"I simply rise in support of the Amendment. It goes to Capital Security Services to provide one guard for the guard service at the EPA Building, and that's what the contract is. I think that's too much. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Is there any further discussion? Hearing no further discussion, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kulas, to close. Representative Kulas."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Amendment just cuts down a salary of one guard from 43,000 dollars by a 25,000 dollar amount. And I would ask... I mean if a guard should be making more than the Members of the Legislature, then I don't think we have any business being down here."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 2627 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'nay'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 take the record. On this question there are 59 voting aye, 32 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And this Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Earnes, amends House Bill 2627 as amended by inserting immediately after the last line Section 11 as follows."

"Are there any Motions filed? Are there any... Representative Barnes, on Floor Amendment #3."

"Mr. (sic Madam) Chairwoman and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is something that we had appropriated before. It's a reappropriation of four million dollars from General Revenue Fund, and it's for the cyanide chip cleanup that affects many areas in the state. And the agency will not be able to finish the cleanup until well into Fiscal Year '85. And that's why we're asking for this reappropriation. And I think everybody has read about this in the newspaper. It's been very well publicized. And the cleanup is located in Cook and Lee Counties. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 2627. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Yes, I rise in support of the Amendment and hope it would be adopted."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 2627 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2636, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2636, a Bill for an Act making an 94  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 15, 1984 appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Human Fights. Secced Beading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed." Speaker Breslin; "Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Beading. House Bill 2637, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 3637 (sic - 2637), a Bill for an Act..."

"2637."

"2637, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Department of Rehabilitation Services. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Asendsents?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Hannig - Levin."

"Sepresentative fannig."

"Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. We have in Jacksonville, Illincis a very fine pair of facilities there for some of our handicapped people. We have a School for the Deaf and a School for the Blind. But, unfortunately, we found in the last few years that this Legislature has not really met the problems that they have over in that area. And, as a result, we've seen these schools constantly and rapidly deteriorate. As a result, many of the interested parents and faculty members and the like, just community citizens in Jacksonville, have formed an advisory committee and have presented to us, in the Legislature, their recommendations. What we are proposing, in this Amendment #1, is to simply adopt those recommendations for the the School for the Blind and the 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Deaf in Jacksonville. This Amendment would basically raise the appropriations for those two institutions by a total of 624,900 dollars. The money will be divided along the ways that the advisory board has so asked us. I think it's a good proposal. I think it's time that we here in the Legislature let those parents and those people in Jacksonville and those students know that we here in Springfield care about their welfare and that we care about their future. There are people there from all over the state, not just from my district attending those facilities. So, this is a statewide concern. I think this is a good Amendment. I'd ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2637. And on that question, the Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"The 624,000 dollar... 900,000 ... 624,900 dollars is to put on twenty positions. I understand the range of the cost of the twenty positions is 170,000 or 170,000 dollars. What is the extra amount in there for?"

"The advisory board has also recommended equipment and permanent improvement to the facilities, and that is included here in this Amendment."

"What kind of equipment are we talking about for 400,000 dollars?"

"Well, we have fifty beds."

"I beg your pardon."

"We have, for example, fifty beds, and some of the dormitory furniture that would go along with this, things of that nature. We have interior, exterior dormitory painting and plastering projects. They have a wide variety of just maintenance that needs to be done in these 96  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 facilities. I've had the opportunity to tour them on many occasions, and, unfortunately, it seems that from year to year our maintenance is not even keeping up with the normal wear and tear that you would expect to see addressed."

"Well, I understand that a lot of that equipment has already been purchased."

"According to the information that the advisory board has given us, it has not been."

"Madam Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"We have...to the Amendment. I'm sorry. We have an Amendment on, or not on, that's after this that does replace the twenty positions. However, we...this Amendment is for 400,000 dollars in additional for equipment that hasn't... that has already been in part purchased and certainly wasn't in the budget or in the appropriation process. I would ask that we reject this Amendment, and then accept the next Amendment coming down, the more reasonable sum.

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman: Bowman." "Well, thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to address the issue just raised that somehow inclusion of equipment is unreasonable. Let me point out to the Membership that included here is the purchase of ten auditory training units, otherwise called the phonic ear. Now, this is a sum total of 40,000 dollars of equipment which is needed for the hearing impaired. We have speech training units. We've included four units at a cost of 3000 dollars a piece. That's 12,000 dollars for speech training units. Now, that means that fully a third of all the equipment is the direct service equipment. And we go into permanent improvements. We have sidewalk and driveway repairs. I 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 think that we surely do not want to have broken sidewalks and broken driveways which represent actility hazards at a school for the blind. These are kids who are just learning mobility. So, I think... that's 30,000 dollars. There are a number of items in here, it seems to me, which the House ought to take a real close lock at and respond very favorably to. So, I'm glad that we agree on both sides of the aisle about the need for additional personnel, but there's some very important equipment here that is very sorely needed. And I recommend that we accept the Gentleman's Amendment #1."

"The Gentleman from Morgan, Representative Ryder."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question."

"Representative, it's my understanding that there's approximately 188,000 dollars of this Amendment which goes for equipment to the Illinois School for the Deaf located in Jacksonville. Is that correct?"

"Yes, that's correct."

"Thank you. It's further my understanding that 160,000 of that goes for permanent improvements. Is that correct?"

"For the plaster and the painting, if that's what you call it."

"Is it not true that both of these items were in essence off the wish list of the Parent's Association at the Illinois School for the Deaf?"

"Well, the advisory counsel that is made up from people throughout the state who have an interest in this school has studied the problem very thoroughly, and this is the recommendation that they have given to us."

"Did they place priorities between staff, equipment and building improvements?" 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day

"I think it was there intention to ask the Legislature to make a financial commitment so that we could see that the school could operate and indeed would operate at a high level. And so they had asked us to adopt these Amendments or this Amendment in order that we would have the money so that the school could operate at the level that we would like to see it operate."

"Then I take it from your answer that they did not place priorities in those three categories."

"They have asked us to...to spend this money, but they did not say that they would like to see one, two or three, as far as a priority. They simply feel that all of these monies are important."

"DO you know that or do you have any knowledge that the Illinois School for the Visually Impaired additionally had their own wish list of what was necessary for commitment to their school as well?"

"The School for the Visually Impaired simply asked us for what is in this Amendment."

"Madam Speaker, to the Amendment."

"Proceed."

"I also rise in staunch support of these schools and the items selected in the Amendment. However, I find it somewhat troubling that information given to me indicates that at least some if not all of the equipment indicated in this has already been programed for purchase on a transfer Bill which was passed by this House last week. As a consequence, I'm somewhat troubled to be able to support the Bill given that possibility. I think the same also applies to the permanent improvements that were indicated for some 160,000 dollars. However, I do very strongly support the commitment to take some very temporary people that are part of the staffing at the Illinois School for 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 the Deaf and the Illinois School for the Visually Impaired; and, as a consequence, this becomes one of the hard decisions that we have to make.. Given the information that has been provided, I would urge anaye vote. Thank you."

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Macoupin, Fepresentative Eannig, to close."

"Yes, I would simply point out that the advisory counsel represents the students and that the students are from all over the state. They're not just from Morgan County or Macoupin County or from ODE area or the other. They represent al all the visually impaired or a good part of the visually impaired and a good part of the deaf students in our state. So, I would simply point cut that what we are doing here by this Amendment is making the commitment to see that there are indeed the pecfle to teach these children and there are indeed the facilities whether they be beds, or whether they be teaching aids or whether they just be a good clean solid building to teach these students what they need and what ve normally would teach other students in our public schools. It's an advisory counsel which has brought us these recommendations. 1 think that they are proper, and I would ask for your 'yes' vote."

"The Gentleman has noved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2637. All those in favor vote aye, all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 104 voting 'aye, none voting 'nc and none voting "present". And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Bowman levin."

"Representative Powman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS B3RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 House. Amendment #2 appropriates 108,700 dollars for the Illinois Children's School and Rehabilitation Center, which is the only state residential facility for the severe and profoundly orthopedically handicapped child in Illinois. It also appropriates 62,000 dollars for the Illinois Visually Handicapped Institute, which is a facility primarily for the adult visually handicapped. It is a residential training facility. These funds will provide for six additional staff at the ICSBC and four at the IVHI and are based on recommendations of the respective advisory counsels of those two organizations. At the ICSBC, six temporary staff were employed in 19...fiscal 24 due to the veto override. The Legislature spoke, and the money vas put in. The money was expended. However, these staff were not included in the fiscal 84 budget, and SO this Amendment puts the budget back in the posture that it was when the House and Senate approved it a year ago. I think the Legislature has expressed a commitment to this... these facilities in the past. And, the affect of this Amendment is to maintain the commitment that we have already gone on record through a veto override Session. I think we need to maintain and continue it, and that's why I'm offering this Amendment. I urge its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to Bouse Bill 2637. And on that guestion is, there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, Shall Arendment #232 to House Fill 2637 ke adopted?" All those in favor say aye, all those opposed say "nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, byder.

"Bepresentative Ryder."

"Nadam Speaker, I would indicate to the Chair that the 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Amendment that I have cffered as Amendment #3 simply places the temporary workers for Illinois School for the Visually Impaired and Illinois School for the Deaf. Those WELE adequately covered in Amendment #1. It does not have the problems with the equipment or the permanent improvements. So, as a consequence, since we've already passed all of that money, I will withdraw that Amendment."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #3 Hearing no objection, Amendment #3 is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2639, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2639, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Human Rights Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2640, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2640, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Department of heveDUE. Second Beading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 vere adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"A Notion to table Committee Amendment #4 by Representative Barnes."

"Representative Earnes."

"Br. (sic Madam) Chairwoman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would like to table Amendment #4 that eliminated thirty-seven revenue fraud agent positions. The Director felt that she needed these positions as part of 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 the STEP program that we put into law in this House."

"The Lady has moved to table Amendment #4. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Madam Chairman or Speaker... Sorry. Who is the Sponsor of the Amendment?"

"Representative Barnes... Representative Barnes."

"She... She is the Sponsor?"

"She is the Sponsor of the Motion to table Amendment #4."

"I asked who was the Sponsor of the Amendment."

"Mr. Clerk. It was offered by Representative Mautino in Committee."

"This is to... Why do you want to restore the positions?"

"Because, Representative Leverenz, at the time that this was offered you came over to my desk and said that it would afford a little bit of conversation between Representative Mautino and those that he wished to speak to, but that we would table it on the floor."

"Well out of the back rooms, we pull all the deals."

"I was just refreshing your memory."

"I only suggested to you that if you didn't like the Amendment, you could put in a Motion to table. But I do not think at this time there is enough substantial proof to show why they should have all the Gestapo agents that they ask for. And further, to start up a KGE of this nature, is uncalled for at this time, and what we've left in the budget is adequate. And I'd ask for your help on my side, and the people on that side, of course, to stop the Motion to table. Thank you."

"Is there any further discussion? There being 103  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 no further discussion, the Lady fron Cook, Representative Barnes, to close. Representative Nautino, do you wish to discuss the Amendment?"

"It's my Amendment, yes."

"Very good, Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Representative Preslin. I would like to point out that the original position taken on an Amendment was basically because the STEP proposal increased the enforcement powers of the Department of Revenue, such as seizure of property, as well as, wage deduction orders, etcetera, that was normally handled under the Department of Law Enforcement. I don't think that under the amount of money which they could return it would be good to implement this with the additional enforcement powers. In many cases, the revenue agents which we put on, around 242 a year ago, I think, can man the necessary phones as well as do the personal investigation to obtain the funds on a fair share basis. And I oppose her Motion to table my Amendment."

"There being no further discussion, the Lady from Cook, Representative Barnes, to close."

"Well, it is obvious that the dialogue has not been completed. I withdraw my Motion."

"The Lady withdraws her Motion to table. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"No further Motions."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, Madigan, amends House Bill 2640 as amended on page ten, line 20 and so forth."

"Representative Leverenz."

"I withdraw the Amendment."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #5. Hearing no objection, the Amendment is withdrawn. Are 104  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, Hclf - Churchill, amends House Bill 2640 as amended in reference to Section number, and so forth."

"Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. Four years ago the General Assembly, foreseeing a lot of difficulty, created the Office of Appraisals within the Department of Revenue to provide expert appraisals to units of local government for large industrial and commercial risk. For some reason or other, none of which are known to me, this Department was never activated nor was it ever funded by the Department of Revenue. We now have a situation where a number of large facilities, industrial properties, are appealing their tax assessments, going right by the Board of Review in order to get to the Board of Appeals at the state level, and using appraisals that are furnished by firms who allegedly are being paid a fee based on the amount of tax savings that they save their client. There's a serious question in my mind as to the credibility of any appraisal that is made under these circumstances. This Amendment #6 in the amount of 314,000 dollars is intended to fund that particular Office of Appraisals within the Department of Revenue and to provide units of local government that type of appraisal service that this General Assembly intended back in 1980, and I would ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #6. It's an Amendment, not a tabling Motion, Mr. Clerk. Adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 2640. And on that question is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 to House Bill 2640 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, Madigan."

"Representative... Representative Leverenz, on Amendment #7."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment 7 would provide 425,000 dollars, which is part of the local assessors additional compensation, which is a formula driven by statute. Also, 180,000 additional for local assessors provided by Section 2.7 of a Revenue Act we amended last year."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #7 to House Bill 2640. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 to House Bill 2640 be adopted?' All those in favor say "aye", all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the "ayes" have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2641, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2641, a Bill for an Act to amend the Department of Public...a Bill for an Act to make appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses at the Department of Public Health. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, McGann - Hastert, amends House Bill 2641 on page 13 and so forth."

"Representative McGann." 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

May 15, 1984 "Speaker and Members of the Assembly, just about a year ago, the deep interest that this Assembly had in our newborns, the high-risk newborns, a special Committee was formed for both sides of the House to look into the protection of these newborns. We are now about to culminate that long trail of hearings throughout the state accompanied by the help of both sides of the aisle to accomplish our goal. We have many Bills before you. We do now have a request for an appropriation which is badly needed. This appropriation is in the amount of 995,000 dollars to start a program and extend a present program. It provides for the state funding for improvement and expansion of the perinatal service network, as required by a Public Act that was passed in 1983 and is provided under the House Bills 28, 2908... 2908... 2909, excuse me, which is recommended by the Special House Committee on High-Risk Infants and Newborns. I would ask that we have support of this appropriation to the Department of Public Health. It's badly needed, and it will start our program in safeguarding our high-risk newborns."

"The Gentleman has for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 2641. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 2641 be adopted?" All those in favor say aye, all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2642, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2642, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Department of Registration and Education. Second 107  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEERESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Amendments filed?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Barnes."

"Representative Barnes."

"Mr. (sic - Madam) Chairwoman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, it's merely a technical change that replaces obsolete language."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 2642. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz. No. Is there any further discussion? Hearing no further discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #2 to Ecuse Bill 2642 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Barnes, amends House Bill 2642 as amended on page three, and so forth."

"Representative Barnes."

"Mr. (sic - Madam) Chairwoman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 is 150,000 dollars in the General Revenue Fund for the enforcement of the Illinois Controlled Substances Act in Medicaid prescriptions, and the Governor's Office supports this Amendment."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 2642. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, "Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 2642 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. And the 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, Leverenz, amends House Bill 2642 as amended in Section 3 and so forth."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you very much. The Amendment would add 15,000 dollars to the equipment line item to help fund the purchase of two new automobiles for examiners. The present vehicles are old and need replacement. That is according to the Department, and we're going along with them. And 3000 dollars for evidence work for the Department to purchase dentures, etcetera, for the investigation's unit on the dentists' licensing. I'd move for the adoption of Amendment #4."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #4 to House Bill 2642. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 to House Bill 2642 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2643, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2643, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Veterans' Affairs. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Curran, amends House Bill 2643 on page five, and so forth."

"Representative Curran." 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is an important Amendment to an important appropriation Bill. Last year, we created the Vietnam Veterans' Act, and earlier this year, we allowed a supplemental appropriation for the Vietnam Veterans' Leadership Program to facilitate our wishes as of the Vietnam Veterans' Act of last year. What we are doing here by Amendment #2 is we are appropriating the sum of 500,000 dollars for the Department of Veterans' Affairs for the purpose of making a grant to these Vietnam Veterans' Leadership Program for the operation of a statewide network of outreach services for veterans, as provided by the Vietnam Veterans' Act."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any further discussion? Representative Hastert."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield to a question."

"Representative, your asking for half-a-million dollars to the Vietnam Leadership...for the Vietnam Leadership Society to be passed through under the auspices of the Vietnam Act. Is that correct?"

"Correct."

"What's the purpose of this money?"

"To establish an operation of a statewide network of outreach services for veterans, as provided in that Act, which I believe you and most of the Members of your side of the aisle voted for and, also, to continue the work in the...from the supplemental that we passed earlier this month, which I believe you and most the Members of your side of the aisle voted for."

"Representative, is there... Isn't this an all volunteer organization?" 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"It is largely a volunteer organization. It is a group of Vietnam veterans who have succeeded and who have come back to help their fellow veterans take advantage of all the programs that are available to them. I think you were..."

"But now we're going hire the volunteers, is that correct?"

"Pardon?"

"Now, under this program, we'll hire the volunteers with the 150,000 and the new half-a-million dollars?"

"A lot of this money will be for rent, postage, travel, things of that nature. There would be some personal services. But a lot of the effort here will be volunteer effort. We discussed this a great length in Committee, as I'm sure you remember."

"And there's thirty-seven other organizations that represent veterans in the state. Is that correct?"

"If you say that there are thirty-seven, I believe you."

"And this is one of the thirty-seven, but organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars and American Legion really don't support this concept. Is that correct?"

"You will recall, when this Bill went through Committee that we heard no such evidence. I have a list of organizations which support this Bill, if you would like to hear me go on with a rather long list."

"I'm sure we'll probably hear them later. To the Bill."

"Proceed."

"Madam Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we're asking for half-a-million dollars here to give to one veterans' organization, which is neither a chartered organization. It's not a recognized service organization, recognized by the VA. It's not an organization that recognized by the state organization VA, and it's just one 111  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 of many groups that are down there and we're handing them half-a-million dollars. Now, I think there's not a great deal of accountability where this money is going, and I think maybe we better reject this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Difrima."

"Yes, Madar Chairman, word has gotten to me that there's been no provision made to appropriate this amount of money; and, as much as I would like to go ahead with it, SODE of the bigger veteran organizations have contacted me and felt that they'd been overlooked in certain demands that they've made. And they're a little envious of this little group of veterans, which is all well and gccd. But I think at this time we ought to dump this appropriation. Then another thing, you know, I'm looking to gc to work for the Department of Veterans' Affairs and, maybe, might need the money for myself."

"There being DO further discussion, the Gentleman from Sangamon, Representative Curran, to close."

"With all due respect to a very honest last speaker, there are tens of thousands cf Vietoar veterans in this state who have not been reached by the Department of Veterans' Affairs. And anybody who doesn't think that, jost simply doesn't understand what's going on. I introduced the Members of the Appropriation II Committee to the Executive Director of the Vietnam Veterans' Leadership Program. His name was Allen Lynch. I do not know what you were doing CD December 17, 1967. I do not know what you were doing on December 17, 1967, but Allen Lynch was receiving the Congressional Medal of Ecnor or was winning the Congressional Hedal of Honor by saving three of his buddies over in the Battle of Targuan 11 in aksolutely the most courageous display of heroise I've ever heard of in my 112  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 entire life. He is the Executive Director of the Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program. Now, my good friend from the other side of the aisle said that this is not a recognized service organization. We recognized this organization last year with a Vietnam Veterans Act, and he recognized this organization earlier this year, earlier this month when we appropriated money for a supplemental appropriation for FY '84. They have been recognized twice by this Body in the last thirteen months. I suggest to you that what we have here is a very worthwhile use of state money. We're going to combine our money with the volunteer efforts of a large number of very successful Vietnam veterans who are going to help their buddies, not as successful Vietnam veterans, get back into the mainstream and take advantage of all the services that the state has to offer. I ask for a positive vote on this Amendment #2."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 2643 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 48 voting 'aye', 39 voting 'no' and 4 voting 'present', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Mays."

"Representative Mays."

"Yes, thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 provides 389,200 dollars from the Illinois Veterans' Home Fund to allow the addition of 22 new positions at the Illinois Veterans' Home in Quincy. This Amendment will raise the level of care offered to residents and, thereby, increase the federal funding reimbursements for the home. I must add that this is not GEF dollars. If the money doesn't come in through 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 the additional nursing staff we're putting on there, we won't be able to add...to spend it. So, it's Veterans' Home Fund money not GRF. I know of no opposition to this Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 2643. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 2643 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2644, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2644, a Bill for an Act to amend...making an appropriation to the Department of Labor. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, McPike - Leverenz, amends House Bill 2644 as amended on page three, line six, and so forth."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you. For Representative McPike, I've agreed to offer the Amendment. It would add personal services dollars to implement fully the toxic substance division of the Department of Labor. It calls for 138,000 thousand, eight hundred dollars. It would put in the number of people that was agreed tc, to implement that law we did last year. I would ask for your support in the adoption of the Amendment." 114  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF HEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 2644. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #5 to House Bill 2644 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye, all those opposed say nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, Hautino, amends House Bill 2644 as amended on page five, line 25 and so forth."

"Representative Leverenz, on Amendment #6."

"Yes, withdraw Amendment #6."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #6. Hearing no objection, Amendment #6 is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2645, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2645, a Bill for an Act making...providing for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Office of the Governor. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2646, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2646, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Bureau of the Budget. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Deuchler - Karpiel, amends 115  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 House Bill 2646 as amended on page one, and so forth."

"Bepresentative Karpiel. Bead the Amendment, please."

"Adding for planning for a math and science academy, 150,000 dollars."

"Bepresentative Karpiel. Representative..."

"I move to table Amendment #2 of Bouse Bil1 2646."

"The Lady moves to withdraw Amendment #2 tc House Bill 2646. Hearing no objection, the Amendment is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Arendments."

"House Fill 2648, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 2648, a Eill for an Act making appropriations for the Illinois Commerce Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"A Notion to table Amendment #1 by Representative Farnes."

"Representative Barnes."

"MI. sic - Madam) Chairwoman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I wish to table Arendment #1 that cuts 83,700 dollars, which eliminated three new positions."

"The Lady moves to takle Arendment #1 to House Bill 2648. And op that question, the Gentleman from Macoupin, Representative Hannig."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Chairman, Heaters of the House. I was the Sponsor of this Amendment in Ccnaittee, and I would oppose the Lady's Motion to table the Arendment here on the floor. What we're trying to do is just a very modest attempt to reduce the budget cf the Illingis Commerce Commission. During the last few years, for example in 116  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Fiscal Year 183, they were given twenty-eight new positions, in 84 they were given thirty new positions, in *85 they're asking for an additional eight new positions. I don't think it's appropriate while we're telling education and some of our other people that they can*t afford additional monies for them, that we can continue to spend, spend, spend in the area of the Illinois Commerce Commission. All this Amendment really wants to do is to phase in a secretary II and all the related line items. It wants to eliminate one of the two new positions for a clerk typist II that they're asking for. It wants to eliminate two of the motor carrier enforcement officers of the four that their asking for, and it simply asks to eliminate the two cars that they would need and the maintenance on those cars. It's a very modest Amendment. It only reduces the appropriation by 83,700, one or two percent. And I'd simply ask that this Amendment not be tabled at this point and that we make some statement that we want to show the Commerce Commission that we expect them to some degree to hold the line on financing. And so, I would oppose the Lady's Amendment... or I oppose the Lady's Motion."

"The Gentleman from Cock, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman. To the Motion itself, this money is from the Motor Vehicle Fund. It is from the Public Utility Fund, and I have been in conversations with the Chairman and fairly well assured that the money would be put to good use and, therefore, support the Lady's Motion at this time. I think we've adequately sent a message to the Illinois Commerce Commission."

"There being no further discussion, the Lady from Cook, Representative Earnes, to close."

"Madam Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I 117  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEEАТЕ May 15, 1984 would concur with the Chairman, Leverenz, and I would like to restore this so that the Commerce Commission can work as efficiently as possible for the State of Illincis."

"The lady has asked to table Amendment #1 to House Bill 2648. And on that question, all those in favor vote "aye', all those ofposed vote 'nc'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 99 voting aye", 2 voting 'no', none voting 'present. The Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"No further Motions or Anendsents."

"Third Reading. House Eill 2652, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2652, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Guardianship and Advocacy Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Nations filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"ΝΟ Floor Amendments."

"Third Heading. House Fil1 2653, Βepresentative Barnes. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 2653, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Department of Conservation. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 4, 5 and 6 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?

"A Motion to table Amendment #4 by Representative Nautino and Kulas."

"Representative Hautino."

"Thank you very much, Madar Speaker. Amendment #4, after it was adopted by the Committee, created quite a bit 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 of interest from the sportsmen's groups and individuals interested in the Department of Conservation budget. I had second thoughts about submitting this tabling Motion; but, in the final analysis I felt that it was only fair and proper to do so. Basically what the Amendment did was expend 400,000 dollars out of the General Revenue Fund for  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 money, because he can't use it for what his business is and that's destroying it - and using it to sell as limestone rock and quarry rock and so forth. So, Conservation, while they support this Amendment, not this particular Amendment because they have it in their Fiscal Year '86 to '88 budget request, I asked to have it speeded up some. So eventually Conservation was going to get around to asking for this important Amendment. Now, I don't know what the problem is. We're all conservation-minded. Are we going to let the only known species, the Indiana and the Gray, just die out because this man is going to tear that cave down, and I don't blame him. And I hope all the blame is put on Dick Nautino for what he's going to try to do here with tabling this Motion. So, I would ask people not to support his Motion to table."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Well, Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to the Sponsor's Motion to table. I had an Amendment earlier today he certainly didn't support me on, and it almost put me the Century Club. But, to Representative Winchester's Amendment he's got a 400,000 dollar appropriation, which is good, because it doesn't include any personal services. This is... He just wants to buy a cave, for which he admitted in Committee they have yet to find a bat in. So, I think that this might be a good stage set for a movie in Representative Winchester's district. And I rise to support his side of this, and he has been called all those things he alluded to earlier, but I don't know if they're true or not, about his belfry."

"The Gentleman from Winchester...from Hardin, Representative Winchester, on a point of personal privilege." 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Well, thank you...on a personal privilege, Madam Speaker, since my name was used in debate. This is a serious Amendment. I did not cffer this Amendment for someone to be able to buy a cave. I offered this Amendment for the Department of Conservation to be able to buy a cave that did have the last known specie of Gray and Indiana bat in the North American...on the North American continent, and that was verified in Committee by Director Renny. I don't want to confuse this with something that is maybe to be considered as funny or humorous or whatever. This was a serious Amendment...a serious Arendment that I offered. The 400,000 dollars is specified in the Fill that this Amendment would go to as saying 'for so much thereof as necessary'. It may not take 400,000 dollars. It may only take 50,000. It might take 100,000."

"The Gentleman from Chamраіgn, Беpresentative Johnson."

"Mell, I think it's a serious subject toc, and I just want to tell you a little story. I'm going to support this Amendment because I found out with the Representative Giorgi's Bill last week what kind of power Representative Giorgi has. After I got back from Springfield, the next morning in my Legislative Office I had over two hundred pigeons picketing up and down in front of my cffice. And certainly if he can organize that kind of support from the pigeon lovers and pigeons themselves, I certainly wouldn't want to be in a position of opposing an Amendment that would support bats. In response to that, I've done a number of things including starting our own Pigeon Fanciers Society in Champaign County issuing a written apology to all the pigeons in my district, and I've agreed to provide thea with bread and seed for the next three months. So, I would urge, in all seriousness, that everybody support this 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Amendment, because the power of people like Winchester and Giorgi on issues like this is really dramatic. And I don't want to go through another boycott and picket like we did with the pigeons last week."

"The Gentleman from Kendall, Representative Hastert."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"The Gentleman will yield for a question. Representative Mautino."

"Mautino... I just want to ask a question. I understand, and this is a serious question, that bats eat twenty-seven times there weight in mosquitoes everyday. Lo you know anything about that?"

"No. I have no information on what a bat does or does not do."

"Well... If it... If it eats twenty-seven thousand...or twenty-seven times its weight in mosquitoes and there is at least five thousand bats in that cave...in that cave, maybe they won't need any of that mosquitoe abatement money."

"You mean you want to eliminate the mosquitce abatement districts because these bats would take over?"

"It's a very good possibility."

"Well, that's something that Representative Winchester will probably have amended into the Revenue Article next week. There's still time for that. I don't think they really found a bat. You mentioned five thousand bats. Now, Director Kenny said that he understood from his technical and research staff as well as his biologists that there... At one time, there was a bat down there, and someone recommended in Committee that maybe that 2100 foot cave had one 2100 foot bat in it. I'm not sure, but there was no definite response to the fact whether or not there was any bats in that cave, and we just thought 400,000 122  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 dollars was rather expensive for that."

"So, what we're really talking about is just bat habitat. Bight? Not really bats?"

"Fight."

"There being no further discussion, the Gentleman from Bureau, to close. Dc you wish to close, Representative Nautino? Representative Nauting, to close."

"No, I'd just...just be happy to have the individuals support the concept of the sanctity of the General Revenue Fund as it pertains to certain projects. And I'm happy that my seatmate, Ted 'Robin' Leverenz, is joining Representative 'Batman' Winchester in this most important issue, and I ask for a 'yes' vote to table Amendment #4."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 to House Bill 2653 be tabled?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 26 voting 'aye', 61 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. And the Motion to table fails. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"No further. Motions or Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2654, Representative Hastert. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2654, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois State Historical Library. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2655, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2655, a Bill for an Act to make an 123  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Industrial Commission. Second Reading of the Eill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Arendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Eill 2729, Representative Woodyard. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Eill 27...27292"

"Correct."

"A Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Secretary of State. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Terzich - Capparelli - Barnes - C'Connell - McGann - Krska."

"Representative Barnes...Cr Representative Capparelli. Representative Capparelli."

"Madam Speaker, Robert Terzich has a meeting. He asked me to handle this. It appropriates 151,663 for a license renewal office on the southwest side of Chicago where residents could renew his driver's license and buy license stickers and plates. I move to adopt Amendment #1 (sic Amendment #2)."

"The Gentleman has moved to adopt Amendment #2 to House Bill 2729. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 2729 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments." 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

Curran. May 15, 1984 "Third Reading. House Bill 2739, Representative Representative Curran? Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2739, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Capital Development Board. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2769, Representative Brummer. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2769, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the ordinary and contingent expense of the Office of State Appellate Defender. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2776, Representative Madigan. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2776, a Bill for an Act to making anappropriations for the Department of law Enforcement for the Illinois State Enforcement Agencies to Recover Children Program. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Madigan, amends House Bill 2776 as amended on page one line twelve, and so forth."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Madam Speaker, I'm not prepared... I thought you were on 2775, and that's what I was prepared on."

"Representative... We're on 2776. Representative Leverenz."

"Okay, I'm the pinch hitter here. Thank you very much, 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Madam Speaker. The Amendment would add and bring it up to a total of a million, eighteen thousand dollars for the costs associated with the implementation of the Illinois State Enforcement Agencies to Becover Children Program, which is commonly known as ISEARCH. I BOVE for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #232 to House Bill 2776. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the guestion is, 'Shall Amendment #232 to House Bill 2776 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those cpposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes" have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amenduents."

"Third Reading. Ecuse Fill 2788, Bepresentative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2788, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Illinois Department of Transportation for repair of North Avenue. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"NODE."

"Third Reading. Ecuse Fill 2789, Representative Leverenz. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2789, a Bill for an Act to appropriate funds to the Illinois Department of Transportation for the repair of Roosevelt Road. Second Reading of the Eill. Nc Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"NODE."

"Third Reading. Ecuse Fill 2821, Bepresentative Matijevich. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2821, a Fill for an Act making an 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 appropriation to the Capital Development Board. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3025, Representative Keane. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3025, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Secretary of State. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3071, Representative Madigan. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3071, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Capital Development Board for repairs. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. With leave of the Body, we would like now to go to an appropriation Bills that are on Third Reading that need to be brought back to Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. The first Bill is House Bill 2765. Representative Earnes is the Sponsor of the Bill. Representative Stuffle, has an Amendment to propose. It's on page 22 on your Calendar. Representative Stuffle, would you consult with Representative Barnes and Woodyard so that we can proceed on this legislation? We'll take this Bill out of the record for the time being and go back and do one other Bill that I missed on the call. That's House Bill 3235, Representative Brookins. 127  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Representative Brookins. Out of the record. Representative Barnes, on House Bill 2765 on page 22 in your Calendar."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, could you please bring it back to Second with permission to go to Third after the Amendment is adopted?"

"The Lady asks leave to bring House Bill 2765 back to the Order of Second Reading. Does the Lady have leave? The Lady has leave. And on the Amendment, Representative Stuffle. Representative Woodyard, on the Amendment."

"Amendment #3, Woodyard - Stuffle."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I wish to withdraw Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #3. Does the Gentleman have leave? Fearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, Woodyard - Stuffle."

"Representative Woodyard."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #4 puts back into the Bill an item that was inadvertently left out when Bureau of the Budget prepared this particular Bill. It involves some repairs to the Paris Armory, in my district. And it is within the budget. The total amount of those repairs are 170,000 dollars, and I ask for adoption of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman has asked to amend...adopt Amendment #4 to House Bill 2765. And on that question, the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Stuffle."

"Madam Speaker, Members of the House, so there's no problem with this, there is no opposition that I know of to this particular Amendment. In fact, it does place into 128  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 the budget two new items that are in the budget of the Governor. They were inadvertantly left out when the reappropriation Bill was drafted, and particularly and importantly the 170,000 for the Faris Armory is included. This particular Armory appropriation is a reappropriation , and it is for sadly, badly needed rehabilitation of kitchen/dining facilities and exterior walls that are literally falling in at that facility, as well as some roofing costs. And I would also urge an affirmative vote on Amendment #4 to House Bill 2765."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Woodyard, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I simply ask for an affirmative vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 to House Bill 2765 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Back to House Bill 3235, Representative Bullock. That's an appropriation Bill on Second Reading on page 15 on your Calendar that we skipped over earlier today, Representative Bullock. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Brookins."

"House Bill 3235, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation for the City of Chicago. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments filed?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Eerrice, amends House Bill 3235 as amended by deleting line one, and so forth." 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEВАТЕ 118th Legislative Day Speaker Ereslin: #2 May 15, 1984 "The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment Does the Gentleman have leave? Eearing no objection, Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, Frookins."

"Representative Brookins, on Amendment #3."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Abendment #3 is a technical Amendment, and it changes the word from "Comptroller' to... I mean the word "State Comptroller' to Comptroller'."

"The Gentleman asks to amend...to adopt Amendment #3 to House Bill 3235. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 3235 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say "nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes" have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Anendments."

"Third Beading. On page seven on your Calendar, we had a Eill that was presented to us and was not moved to Third because of a question on the fiscal note. That was House Bill 2606. We have determined that that Bill can now be moved to Third Reading. House Eill 2606 is on Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Feading, page ten on your Calendar, appears Ecuse Eill 2871, Representative Kirkland. Out of the record. House Bill 2875, Representative White. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative shite."

"House Bill 2875, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Beading of the Fill. was adopted in Committee." Amendment #1

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

"No Floor Amendments." May 15, 1984

"Representative, this Bill has a State Mandates Act fiscal note requested. Has it been filed, Mr. Clerk?"

"State Mandates Act fiscal note has been filed."

"Third Reading. House Eill 2877, Representative LeFlore. Cut of the record. Ecuse Bill 2878, Representative Madigan Currie Marzuki. Out of the record. House Bill 2907, Representative Jaffe. Representative Jaffe. Out of the record. House Bill 2926, Representative Davis. Representative Davis. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 2926, a Bill for an Act to amend the Secretary of State Merit Employment Code. Second Reading of the Eill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Ploor Amendment #1, Davis, amends House Bill 2926 on page one, and so forth."

"Representative Davis."

"Madam Speaker, would you withdraw Amendment #1? It's technically incorrect."

"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #1. Hearing no objection, the Amendment is withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Davis, amends House Fill 2926 on page one, and so forth."

"Representative Davis."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #2 is fairly straight-forward and fairly simply. It raises the Merit Commission of the Secretary of State, a three Member Merit Commission since its inception some years ago, it raises the salaries of that... of that Merit Commission from 7500 to 10,000 for the Chairman, and from 5000 to 7500 for the two other Members. It's a very simple, straightforward 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day Amendment. Percentage-vise it's a major May 15, 1984 increase. Bowever, the total cost to state government will be 7500 dollars a year, if it should succeed. I think this Merit Commission does an outstanding jok and merits this kind of a small increase. And I offer the Amendment for your approval."

"The Gentleman asks for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bil1 2926. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to Bouse Pill 2926 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye, all those opposed say "nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2934, Representative McAuliffe. Bill." Representative McAuliffe. Clerk, read the

"House Bill 2934, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to identification use of motor vehicles of the state. Second Reading of the Fill. No Committee Arendments."

"Are there any Ficor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Fil1 2951, Беpresentative Stec2o. Out of the record. Ecuse Bill 2987, Representative Steczo. Out of the record. Bouse Bill 2997, Representative Preston. Cut of the record. House Bill 3001, Representative Preston. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3001, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed." 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3027, Bepresentative Churchill. Clerk, read the Eill."

"House Bill 3027, a Bill for an Act authorizing the Department of Conservation to convey certain real property. It's been read a second time previously."

"Representative... Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Asendnents?"

"Floor Amendment #231, Churchill, amends House Bill 3027 on page one, and so forth."

"Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I brought this Amendment before the Body last week, and there was a request from Representative Cullerton that appraisals be filed. There have been three appraisals filed at this point for an average value of 400 dollars. And, this Amendment basically reduces the amount of land that the Department of Conservation will convey. I'd ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman asks for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 3027. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to Ecuse Eill 3027 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say 'nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3038, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Fill. 3038."

"House Fill 3038..."

"Out of the record. Eouse Bill 3041, 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEFBESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CЕВАТЕ 118th Legislative Day Representative Keane Farnes. Out Farnes. of the record. May 15, 1984 Representative Keane Ecuse Bill 3044, Representative Nautino Jaffe. Qut of the record. House Bill 3045, Representative Barnes Koebler. Bepresentative Koehler? Representative Barnes? Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Fill 3045, a Eill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Second heading of the Bill. Asendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Amendments filed?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Barnes, auends House Bill 3045 on page two, and so forth."

"Representative Barnes."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Rouse. Amendment #2 is merely a technical Amendment το correct some language."

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 3045. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing no discussion, the question is, Shall Arendment #2 to House Bill 3045 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye, all those opposed say "nay". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3052, Representative Braun. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3052, a Bill for an Act to asend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Nelson, asends House Bill 3052, and so forth." 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Representative Nelson. Representative Nelson. The Lady is not in the chamber. Representative Braun, what is your pleasure?"

"Madam Speaker, I would...since she's not here, I'd just as soon hold the Bill on Second."

"The Lady wishes to take the Bill out of the record. Out of the record. House Bill 3057, Representative Curran. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3057, a Bill for an Act to amend the Health and Safety Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3060, Representative Marzuki. Representative Marzuki? Out of the record. House Bill 3062, Representative Ewing. Representative Ewing? House Bill 3062. Out of the record. House Bill 3063, Representative Zwick. Representative Zwick - Daniels. Out of the record. House Bill... On the Order of Second Reading, page 12, we'd like...with leave of the House, we would like to go back to House Bill 3134, Representative McGann."

"House Bill 3134, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, McGann - Olson, amends House Bill 3140...3134 as amended."

"Representative McGann." 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly. Amendment #2 to House Bill 3134, is a result of an agreement that was made in the Committee so as to scale the cost for the supplying of computer tanks from the different county clerks and city clerks, etcetera. I wculd ask that the Amendment receive your support."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 3134. And on that question, is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 3134 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say *nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Beading. Mr. Vinson, for what reason do you rise?"

"Has there been a request for a Iccal Government Mandates Act note on that Bill?"

"It is not listed on our Calendar. Mr Clerk, can you advise us on that matter? A State Mandates Act?"

"There's no reguest at the well. There's no request for a State Mandates Fiscal Note at the well."

"Could you, Madam Speaker, explain to me the requirement in the Speaker's communication of the Membership that says that all Bills currently GD the HOUSE Calendar which require a State Mandate Note to be filed will be held until such note is on file? And wouldn't this Eill fall into that category?"

"I'm not familiar with that, Bepresentative Vinson. Mr. Clerk, can you tell us whether or not this Bill does come under the provisions of that meo?

"The Bill indicates from the Legislative Reference Bureau that the Fiscal Note Act may be applicatle." 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Representative Madigan in the Chair. Mr. Vinson, the Reference Bureau has determined that the Mandates Act does not apply to this particular Bill. Mr. Vinson."

"Mr. Speaker, the... I don't know if the Reference Bureau is the appropriate agency for making that determination. I would point out to you that what the Bill does... We have a requirement in the law right now that certain election authorities have to supply political committees with tapes of voters. What the Bill does is to limit what those election authorities may... may charge for those tapes, in effect, saying that they have to supply those tapes for less than cost. So it does have a cost impact on local government, and I thought that that was the thrust of what your memo was all about and that you would want a mandates note filed on the thing so that everybody would be aware of the burdens we were imposing."

"Mr. Vinson, it certainly sounds like something that would come under the thrust of the memo. But you correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that the Reference Bureau was the agency that would decide whether there would be a need for a Mandates Note Act to be filed. Mr. Vinson. Mr. Vinson."

"Mr. Speaker, I believe the Speaker subject to the chamber makes that determination."

"Mr. Vinson, while we're researching your question we'll do some other Bills that the Sponsors wish to bring back to Second Reading. So on page 10 of the Calendar, there appears House Bill 2878, Representative Currie. Representative Currie, did you wish to take further action on House Bill 2878? Representative Currie. The Bill has been called, Representative. What did you wish to do with the Bill?" 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOOSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"I don't... We don't... Are there any Amendments filed?"

"NI. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 28783"

"House Bill 2878, which amends the Act concerning long tear... long term care facilities, had been... has been read a second time previously."

"And are there any Committee Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. And on page 11 of the Calendar, there appears House Bill 3063, Representative Zwick. Bepresentative, did you wish to move this Eill to Third Reading? Representative Zwick."

"Yes, I do. I believe there's an Amendment filed."

"Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read a second time?"

"It has not."

"Alright. Mr. Clerk, read Acuse Bill 3063 for a second tire."

"House Bill 3063, a Bill for an Act to create the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. Seccad Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Anendnerts?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Zwick - Eraun, amends House Bill 3063."

"Representative Zwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Nerbers of the HOUSE. I would move for the adoption of Amendment #32 (sic #1).. It is simply a matter that has been worked cut and resolved in agreement on the Bill dealing with the membership of the Council that will deal with the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Set Aside Frogram. It increases the 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 number by two of the members of the MFBE Council."

"Mr. Cullerton."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"Representative Zwick, the Amendment appears to delete everything after the enacting clause and rewrite the Bill. Could you tell me what is different between the Amendment and the Bill? Why was it necessary to start over and rewrite it?"

"It may not have been necessary, but in redrafting that's simply the way it came out, John. My understanding is that all it does is add two additional members to the Council."

"Alright. Thank you."

"Is there any further discussion? The question is, Shall Amendment #1 be adopted? Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. On page 29 of the Calendar, on the Order of Concurrence, there appears House Bill 2310. Mr. Ronan. Mr. Ronan. We are on the Order of Concurrence, on page 29 of the Calendar, House Bill 2310. The Chair recognizes Mr. Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Very simply Motion. This was a Bill I passed out of here last year. It sat in the Senate for a while. We worked out an agreement with the City of Chicago. It deals with the vehicle leasing industry and fines of individuals who gather tickets when they're in leased cars. Everyone's in agreement. There should be no problem. I move for the adoption of the concurrence Motion - House Bill 2310."

"The Gentleman moves that the House do concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2310. Is there any 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2310? All of those in favor will signify by voting "aye, all those opposed by voting "no". This is final action. This is a final action Roll Call. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 98 'ayes', 14 no. The House does concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2310. On the Order of Second Reading, there appears House Eill 1535. Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read a second time?"

"House Bill 1535, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code, has not been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Committee Amendments? Mr. Clerk, would you please read the Bill for a second time?"

"House Bill 1535, a Bill for an Act ta amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment..."

"Mr. Clerk, are there any Committee Amendments?"

"House Bill 1535 has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was withdrawn."

"Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Levin, amends House Eill 1535 on page one and so forth."

"Nr. Levin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 puts House Bill 1535 in the proper form. It is primarily a technical Amendment. This is the Blue Cross Bill - the Bill that would reestablish rate review for among others, the Health Care Service Plan. It's primarily technical. The Fill adds a provision which existed under the previous law that requires the company to 140  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 pay the cost of hearings, and it also changes the reference with respect to dates. When the Eill Mas initially introduced, it was a shorter period of time. More time has passed since the Bill was introduced, and it simply changes the reference in terms of dates."

"The Gentleman MOVES for the adoption of Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being Do discussion, the question is, *Shall the Amendment be adopted? Those in favor say 'aye, those opposed say "no". The ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?

"Floor Amendment #3, Vinson, amends House Bill 1535 as amended."

"Er. Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 merely closes the remaining loopholes in this system and expands the scope of the Fill to apply to all Medicare supplemental insurance sold in Illinois, not just that sold by Blue Cross - Blue Shield. I want to emphasize that it does impose the regulation on Blue Cross - Blue Shield but also on all other supplemental insurance. I believe it's appropriate that we provide this protection for our senior citizens, and I would urge adoption of the Amendment."

"r. Levin."

"Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bouse, I would rise in opposition to Amendment #3. The effect of Amendment #3 is to gut the Bill. I made a commitment to the Nembers of the Insurance Committee that the Bill would remain within its current scope, and this Amendment goes beyond that commitment that 1 made. Blue Cross has a unique history. It enjoyed for 40 years a special status under Illinois law - a tax exempt, not-for-profit status. 141  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 The senior citizens that had their supplemental Medicare coverage through Blue Cross were, in effect, enjoying subsidized rates, subsidized by the taxpayer. This same history does not exist with the rest of the insurance industry. The legislation was intended to simply deal with those... those companies that were subject within the previous three years to rate review for their supplemental Medicare. And the senior citizens have made very clear when they were down here last week that they want the Bill in its current form. They do not want the Bill expanded. The senior citizens are very sophisticated. They are being hurt at this point by the massive increases in the cost of supplemental Medicare. They know they can't get the whole lcaf. They want this Eill as it exists with Amendment #2. They do not want to see it expanded. So they oppose Amendment #3, as would I, and I would request that you honor the commitment that I made as the Sponsor of the Bill to the Insurance Committee and particularly to the Republican Members of that Committee. They wanted this Bill to be limited in its scope. So I urge you to oppose Amendment #3. This is a very important Eill for the senior citizens in the state, not only the senior citizens in the City of Chicago who have the Elue Cross Supplemental Medicare direct pay, but it's an important Fill to the senior citizens who have Blue Cross through the health improvement associations. One of the last actions the Department of Insurance took under the old law was to cut the rates for the health improvement associations which had been increased substantially in June of 1982, in some cases up to 300%. This is what this legislation without this Amendment would do. It would reestablish some of these protections for the senior citizens, the 300,000 senicr citizens in cur state, and I strongly urge a 'no' vote on 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day Amendment #3."

"Representative Topinka."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would strongly support Amendment #3. It was... It would kind of run in context with the... the work we did out of the Insurance Law Study Commission last Session and the Bill we passed accordingly, which made Blue Cross - Blue Shield like all other companies in Illinois as regards to regulation once it became a mutual and thereby became competitive with all other companies. So if indeed, you know, we've gotten everybody into compliance, one to another, and made that competition available now, in effect, we're once again reregulating and reversing that process this time around on this... specific area of Medicare supplementals. It would strike me that Representative Vinson's Amendment would bring this once again into equity. If we're going to single out this area, then all insurance carriers would be subject to it, and I think it does the job for senior citizens. And I think we ought to vote accordingly."

"Mr. Levin, to close. Excuse me. You're not the Sponsor, are you? Mr. Vinson, are you the Sponsor? Mr. Vinson, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I want to make the point very simply. Under this Amendment, Blue Cross - Blue Shield's supplemental insurance for Medicare will be regulated; but, also, under this Amendment, other insurers will be, too. This provides the maximum possible amount of protection for our senior citizens, and I would urge an 'aye' vote for it."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 to House Bill 1535 be adopted?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Levin, to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker, in explaining my 'no' vote, this Amendment, I think, would gut the Bill. The insurance industry does not want this Amendment. They do not want to be included under this. The senior citizens dc nct want them to be included under this. If this Amendment is adopted, I would respectfully ask for a verification."

"Mr. Piel, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"It's too late now, Mr. Speaker, but the Gentleman spoke in debate."

"Oh, thank you, Mr. Piel. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 63 'ayes', 43 'nos', and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"For what purpose does Mr. Levin seek recognition?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I re... when I spoke I requested a verification. I reserved the right to request a verification."

"Fine. The Gentleman requests a verification. Mr. Clerk, would you read those voting in the affirmative?"

"Poll of the affirmative. Barger. Earnes. Berrios. Bullock. Capparelli. Churchill. Countryman. Cowlishaw. Curran. Daniels. Davis. Deuchler. Didrickson. DiPrima. John Dunn. Ralph Dunn. Ewing. Virginia Frederick. Dwight Friedrich. Giglio. Hallock. Harris. Hastert. Hawkinson. Hensel. Hoffman. Johnson. Karpiel. Kirkland. Klemm. Koehler. Krska. Mays. 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 McAuliffe. McCracken. McMaster. Neff. Nelson. Oblinger. O'Connell. Olsen. Fanayotovich. Farcells. Bernard Federsen. William Feterson. Fiel. Fullen. Rea. Ronan. Ropp. Ryder. Stuffle. Tate. Terzich. Topinka. Tuerk. Vinson. Wait. Winchester. Wojcik. Woodyard. Yourell. And Zwick."

"Mr. Levin, do you have any challenges?"

"At this point, I'd like to withdraw the verification, Mr. Speaker."

"Ckay. The Gentleman withdraws his request for a verification. Mr. Levin."

"If we could leave the Bill on Second though."

"Leave the Bill on Second Reading? Fine. The Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. On the Order of Concurrence, cn page 29 of the Calendar, there appears House Bill 2689, Representative Barnes."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Rouse, House Bill 2689 were several transfers that agencies had requested among line items within their Fiscal Year '84 appropriation.  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEFEATE May 15, 1984 Amendment #5 restored that appropriatics, and it added two million dollars and corrected language to make it appropriate for the Haukegan Port District. If there aren't any questions, I would ask for an "aye vote."

"Is there any discussion? Mr. Bullock."

"Mr. Speaker, is that... board correct in its concurrence?"

"Yes."

"I have a question of the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"Representative Barnes, you indicated that there was a transfer of 75,000 dollars from the Ag Pren Fund, and I failed to understand the recipient of those funds."

"Amendment #... That's Amendment #3, Representative Bullock. It adds 70,000 dollars for pilot pseudorabies projects. It was introduced by Senator Lemuzio from Carlinville."

"Do you know what that project is, and what it does and why the money's coming from the Ag Frem Fund?"

"It's a pilot project in southern Illinois in Fike and Macoupin Counties."

"Is it relative to transportation? You said rabies. Is it a vaccine program, or it just a... Or it some port for Demuzic?"

"I would like to let a farmer respond to you. I'm city girl like you are a city boy."

"Right. That's why I'm trying to be..."

"May I yield to Representative farmer Woodyard?"

"Mr. Woodyard."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regard to your question, pseudorabies is a disease of hogs, and we found in the State of Illinois with the transfer of particularly purebreed swine to shows in Texas, Iowa, so on, we are just 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEGAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 promulgating that disease.  118th Legislative Day Debate STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Calendar, there appears May 15, 1984 House Bill 2567, Representative Younge. Is Representative Younge in the chamber? House Bill 2582, Mr. Capparelli. Mr. Capparelli, do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Capparelli, do you wish to call House Bill 2582? House Bill 2657, Representative Barnes. Is Representative Barnes in the chamber? House Bill 2678, Mr. McGann. Mr... Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2678, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. McGann."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Assembly. House Bill 2678 amends the Community College Act to put that Act in conformance with the statutory provisions in respect to the protection from suit for school board members. It's a simple Bill. What it's doing is in conformity with the provisions that are made with the State Board of Education. It is also to clarify an Illinois Supreme Court decision. I'd answer any questions, and I'd ask support on this House Bill 2678."

"Is there any discussion? Mr. Ropp."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"In... If this Bill passes, is there any cost to the community colleges?"

"Will it be a cost to the community colleges?"

"Yes."

"I believe that they will probably have to work that out with their insurance companies as they have in any of their other premiums. It may be possibly included in a package they have presently."

"We're not talking about..."

"I... I know in the City of Chicago, the community colleges in the City of Chicago, it's already included in 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАЧЕ 118th Legislative Day the package." May 15, 1984

"Okay, and you're just making this uniform throughout the state in all community colleges."

"That is... That is correct, Representative."

"Okay. Presumably, there wouldn't be a substantial increase in cost. It would just be merely added into the coverage. Fight?"

"That is correct."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Representative Hoffman. Mr. Ecffman. Mr. Hoffman, could you move to the microphone to your right? Representative Wojcik's chair."

"Thank you, Mr... Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just rise in support of this legislation. Currently elementary and secondary school districts have this, and it certainly is a reasonable protection at a modest cost for trustees. It's difficult enough to find people to serve in these positions."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the Chair recognizes Mr. Dwight Friedrich."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Mr. Matijevich, would you come to the podium, please?"

"Wouldn't it be possible to cover this now by directors' and officers' liability insurance like we do for private enterprise?"

"I, personally, don't believe it could, Representative. I believe that the community college... community colleges in the State of Illinois should not be discriminated versus your other elementary and secondary education, and this is their program. So what we're doing is just following into conformity." 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"This makes it mandatory for the college to provide the coverage."

"That... That is correct."

"Thank you."

"Bepresentative McGann, tc close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do believe that this is an important piece of legislation for the community colleges in order to protect our student teachers, board members, et cetera. I think we're just in conformity, making it equal as far as the rest of the educational systes is in the State of Illinois, and I would appreciate your support with an 'aye vote."

"Representative McGann has moved for the passage of House Bill 2678. Those in favor signify by voting aye', those opposed by voting 'nc'. Bave all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 'ayes', 1 nay, and House Bill 2678, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ee at ease for one moment. House Bill 2735, Representative Panayotovich. Cut of the record. House Bill 2675 we passed over, I under... 2657. Representative Barnes, I understand, is ready to proceed. Read the Bill, 2657."

"House Bill 2657, a Bill for an Act tc amend the Capital Development Bond Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Cook, Jane Barnes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2657 adjusts the CDB authorizational levels to the amounts necessary to cover all current appropriations and new appropriations proposed in the Governor's Fiscal Year *85 Capital Eudget, and the categories that were effected..."

"For one moment. For what purpose does the 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz, rise?"

"Last week I was a little confused, but now I'm not confused at all. I think we had an agreement to hold this to make the authorization meet what we had put in the Bill so that it shows a total amount from the House, and I think you agreed to do that so that the authorization matched the amount in the projects. I would humbly ask for you to..."

"Well, as long as you're so humble, I'd be very glad."

"Thank you very much."

"Take it out of the record."

"Cut of the record. House Bill 2810, Representative Deuchler. Are you ready to proceed? Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2810, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Kane, Representative Sue Deuchler."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 2810 is a simple Bill. It really has arisen because of a mistake that a Senate Amendment placed on the Bill that was Public Act 83-281. Essentially, the requirement that a petition signed by at least 10% of the registered voters in the township at this particular time has to be presented at the annual town meeting before any corporate property can be purchased, sold, conveyed or leased, and the intent was that this be limited to instances when a new tax or a tax increase is levied. And my Bill corrects the... the mistake that was... happened last Session and is supported by the township officials of Illinois."

"Representative Deuchler has moved for the passage of House Bill 2810. On that the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, would the Sponsor yield?" 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"She indicates she will. Froceed."

"In reading your Bill, which is only a two line Bill, it says, If a new tax is to be levied or an existing tax rate is to be increased above statutory limits for purchase of such property... Could you explain what you mean when you say an existing tax rate is to be increased above statutory limits? How can you increase a tax rate above statutory limits?"

"Well, it's my impression that we're talking about a tax increase only."

"You mean... You mean increasing the statutory limits?"

"Yes. Yes."

"Okay. I guess it's just poorly drafted. It doesn't make any sense to say increasing above statutory limits. But you really mean is to say that... increasing the statutory limits. Is that right? You're talking about a tax increase..."

"Yes."

"...that's... that's statutorally authorized."

"She's nodding yes."

"Okay. Well, that's fine then. That's a good answer, and it sounds like a good Bill now."

"We'll find out with Representative O'Connell. The Gentleman from Ccck, Representative O'Connell."

"A question of the Sponsor."

"Froceed."

"This... When you're talking about corporate property, is this corporate personal property?"

"No."

"What kind of property are you referring to? It says purchase of such property." 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCEIFTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"It could be buildings that the township..."

"Real..."

"Real estate."

"Real estate. This does not... It does not address services..."

"No."

"...such as police service ΟΙ police protection. Thank you."

"She's nodding BO. The Lady from Kane, to close."

"Just simply to ask for your support for this Bill, Hr. Speaker."

"The question is, Shall House Bill 2810 pass? Those in favor signify by voting aye", opposed by voting 'nó'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 113 'ayes, no 'nays', 2 answering present'. House Bill 2816, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2811, Deuchler. The Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 2811, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Deuchler." Капе, Беpresentative Sue Deuchler: Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, a situation has arisen in some of the townships on the public aid committee when no one is knowledgeable about the provisions cf the... of public aid, so that this Bill states that at least one member of the public aid committee of a county under township organization shall be knowledgeable in the area of general assistance. If nо member qualifies for this information, the Department Public Aid must designate a DFA employee to attend such cf 153  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 committee hearings, and this is supported by the township officials and the Department of Public Aid."

"Representative Deuchler has moved for the passage of House Bill 2811. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed by voting "no". Have all woted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 112 *ayes", no 'nays'. House Bill 2811, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2856, Winchester. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2856, a Eill for an Act to amend Sections of the Downstate Public Transportation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Hardin, Bepresentative Bob Winchester."

"Thank you, Br. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is sponsored by Representative Mautino, and Mulcahey and myself. It is a merely Bill to enable public transit operations serving nonurkanized areas to gain the maximum possible federal reimbursements for their operating expenses as provided under federal legislation. State law limits federal farticipation operating expenses for rural transit programs to cnly 50% of their operating deficits. Under the Federal Service Transportation Assistance Act, certain... certain rural transit operating expenses are eligible now for 80%, and I would ask for a favorable vote."

"Representative Binchester has moved for the passage of House Bill 2856. There being no discussion, those in favor signify by voting 'aye", opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have all ycted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 106 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEEATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 'ayes', no 'nays', and House Eill 2856, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2900, Representative Kulas. The Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 2900, a Bill for an Act in relation to the distribution of interest earned on funds held by one unit of government for another unit of government. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Myron Kulas, on House Bill 2900."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2900 creates a new Act called the Interest Distribution Act and would require state agencies and governmental entities who receive and hold public funds for distribution to another governmental entity to pay all the interest earned and accrued on those funds to that governmental entity initially entitled to receive those funds. This is... This Bill came in response to a recent court decision involving DuPage County. You're all familiar with this, and I would just ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Representative Kulas has moved for the passage of House Bill 2900. On that, the Gentleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask the requisite number of Members to join me in taking this Bill off Short Debate."

"The Bill is now on regular debate. Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House..."

"One moment. It may be out of debate altogether. Representative Kulas, for what purpose do you 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day rise?" May 15, 1984

"Well, I didn't intend to cause such a ruckus at this late hour. I'd like to take this out of the record."

"Out of the record. Very obliging. House Bill 2905, Representative Deuchler. Bead the Fill."

"House Bill 2905, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from Rane, Беpresentative Sue Deuchler, on House Bill 2905."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 2905 amends the Revenue Act. It permits township assessors to determine the number and salary of their personnel uniformly throughout the state and is supported by the township officials."

"Representative Deuchler bas moved for the passage of House Bill 2905. On that, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, I first want to cospliment Representative Deuchler for having so many Pills cn the Short Debate Calendar. I wonder if she could... I wonder if she could tell me if this Bill affects the township assessors within Cook County?"

"Representative Deuchler."

"Can you hear? Yes, it does."

"And what does it do again, to then?"

"It permits the assessor to determine the number and salary of their personnel uniformly throughout the state."

"It's a good answer. I wish I would have asked that question. What does it do to the county... Within the County of Cook, we've got certain township assessors. Does this say that the Cock County assessor can determine what their salary is?"

"Their deputies." 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

May 15, 1984 "Okay. So my question is, does this affect the township assessors? Does this mean that the assessor of Cook County can affect the township assessor salaries which are..."

"The township assessor determines the number and salary of their deputies."

"Well, who sets their salaries now?"

"Township board of trustees."

"Okay. Thank you once again."

"The Gentleman frce Cook, Representative Stec20."

"Thank you, Er. Speaker. Oh, it's ca Short Debate."

"You want it off Short?"

"I think We might be able to take it off, and I can clarify the..."

"Looks like it's off Short Debate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I rise in support of House Bill 2905. This Fill is parallel to a Bill that I was the Sponsor of last year, and unfortunately it was not approved by the Senate for some reason. What's happened is that under legislation passed by this house two years ago, inadvertently the Fower of the Cook County township assessors to hire their own employees was stricken from the law. The Sponsor of that legislation was former Representative, now Judge, Getty. Fe... He indicated to us last year that that change was inadvertent, and those tcwnship assessOIS in suburban Cook County should in fact have the power to hire their own euployees. That's what House Bill 2905 does, and I believe that it's a worthwhile Bill and should be supported by the Bouse."

"Representative Michael Slape."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will. Proceed." 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"By this legislation are you saying that the assessor can hire the people he wants, but he still has to get or she still has to get her budget approved by the township board of trustees, or she just takes... they just take their budget in now and it has to be approved?"

"Representative Deuchler."

"Yes, the budget does have to be approved by the township board."

"It does not have to be approved?"

"It does."

"It does have to be. Okay. Thank you."

"There being no further discussion, the question is, Shall House Bill 2905 pass? Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 106 'ayes', 1 'nay', 3 answering 'present'. House Bill 2905, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2946, Cullerton. Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 2946, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative John Cullerton, on House Bill 2946."

"Yes, I asked Representative Deuchler to be a hyphenated Cosponsor on this Bill."

"It's on Short Debate."

"I know. That's why. I would like to bring it back to Second... Second Reading for the purpose of an..."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return House Bill 2946 back to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Does he have leave? Leave. The Bill is on Second Reading. Wait a minute. Are there any 158  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 15, 1984 Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Amendment #1, Cullerton, amends Ecuse Bill 2946 on page three and so forth."

"Representative Cullerton on Asendment #1."

"This Bill amends the Public Aid Code with relation to Medicaid reimbursements for various covered items. When the Bill vas originally drafted, it included drugs, dentures and eyeglasses. The purpose of the Amendment is to limit the effect of the Bill to prosthetic devices and other reimbursable medical items. So I would ask for the adoption..."

"Representative Cullerton MOVES for the adoption of Amendment #1. No discussion, all in favor say 'aye', opposed 'nay, and Amendment #1 is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman asks leave to keep it on Short Debate. Do you ask leave to hear it now too, John?"

"Yes, please."

"Alright. The Gentleman asks leave to consider House Bill 2946 on Third Reading. Does he have leave? Leave. The Bill is CB Third Reading. The Gentleman frce Cook, Representative Cullerton."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I indicated on Second Reading, this Bill provides that within 90 days of the effective date, the Department of Fublic Aid must establish a list of the acquisition cost for these items and update it quarterly. And the items that would be covered would be the prosthetic devices and any other items recognized as medical equipment and supplies reimbursable under the Public Aid Code. It requires the Department update the Code... the list so that 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CERATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 the providers can become reisbursed in a timely fashion and in an amount that is fair and reasonable. Right now the... the Department is unable to make these... or update these lists, and so that's the purpose of the Bill. And I would ask for your support.

"Alright. Just to make sure, will the Clerk read the Bill?"

"House Bill 2946, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Beading of the Fill."

"Representative Cullerton has moved for the passage of House Bill 2946. The Gentleman fron McLean, Representative Bopp."

"Mr. Speaker, would the Sponsor yield?"

"Proceed. He does."

"Representative, can you give me some brief run down as to how the Department comes up with these figures?"

"Yes. It depends on the item. Fcr the prosthetics, they take the most reasonable cost for the item that will adequately meet the client's needs, and that level is based on the lowest of two or three estimates given prior to purchase. And with regard to... I think that's the only one we've amended. So it doesn't apply to the optical goods CF the dental service. So the point of the Bill is for them to update the... the amount that they will reimburse more often..."

"I understand the need for it. I guess I'm wondering, are these people who are in the business of selling these, it's based on their prices for the particular items? And are there several companies that are considered the leading suppliers of these goods?"

"Bight. Well, the discretion is still with the Department of Public Aid. Apparently this comes from the 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 regulation of what I just read to you the rule. The most reasonable cost for the item that will adequately meet the clients needs, and that level is based on the lowest of two or three estimates given prior to purchase. So apparently the Department of Public Aid would ask for SCRE estimates as to the... the value of these items. They will take the lowest of two or three estimates, and that's the amount that they will reimburse."

"Okay. HeretoforΕ, have we only been doing that once a year, of not at all, or whenever we sc desire?"

"It's whenever they get around to it, and that's the... There's no requirement that they do it on a regular basis. So we're saying that they should do it quarterly."

"Okay. Will this have a tendency to increase these costs somewhat substantially over a year? 1 mean, not that they're..."

"I don't think De can tell. I don't know what the history of the cost of prosthetic devices is, but the point is that we've agreed that they should be reimbursed. They're... They're providing the iten, and quarterly is, I think, a fair amount of time to update. You know, in private industry, the guy changes... he raises the prices the next day if his costs go up. Well, this is only four times a year. So we're just saying that they should be reimbursed four times a year... the ancunt that they should be reimbursed should be increased CI in SOBE cases decreased four times a year."

"Okay. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2946 pass? Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting Anc. Have all voted? Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 ayes', nc 'nays, and 161  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY BOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 15, 1984 House Bill 2946, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Fill 3026, Terzich. I don't see hiw around. Out of the record. 3029, Jim Bea. Clerk will read the Bill. No. Out of the record. House Bill 3086, Lee Daniels. Representative Churchill on House Bill 3086. Clerk will read the Fill."

"House Bill 3086, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to lake Michigan and the lake Michigan watershed. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Robert Churchill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill does three things. It designates the Illinois Department of Transportation as the agency regulating the diversion of water from lake Michigan. It requires an allocation permit before water may be diverted from Lake Michigan, and it cleans uf SOBE legal and institutional language in qur statutes to reguire the consent of the Great Lake states and the International Joint Commission before a state could approve an out-of-state diversion of water from the Great Lakes. This Bill is basically something that results from the Council of Great Lakes Governors, and it's been supported by a Resolution which is in support of federal legislation that accomplishes this same thing. I would ask for its passage."

"Representative Churchill has moved for the passage of House Bill 3086. Ιε there any discussion? Seeing none, those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted? Have all voted? All voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Ор this question, there are 110 ayes, nc 'nays, 2 answering *present". House Bill 208... 3086, having received the 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3092, Mays. The Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 3092, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act. Third Reading..."

"Out of the record. I'm sorry. House Bill 3094, Oblinger. Out of the record. House Bill 3110, Madigan. Is Cullerton handling that, or is that... Cut of the record. 3125, Karpiel. Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 3125, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to missing persons. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from DuPage, Representative Doris Karpiel, on House Bill 3125."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3125 is... implements the recommendations of the report to the Illinois General Assembly on missing young adults that the Department of Law Enforcement and the Criminal Justice Information Authority presented to the General Assembly on April 1st. As you may remember, last year we passed in this House, in the General Assembly, House Resolution 348 which asked for a... for hearings to be held around the state by the Department of Law Enforcement and the Authority to make recommendations dealing with how missing persons' reports should be treated by cur law enforcement agencies in the state. The provisions of House Bill 3125 merely implement the recommendations of that report, and these are provisions that are... that are given to the Department of Law Enforcement to implement. And I ask for your 'aye vote."

"Representative Karpiel has moved for the passage of House Bill 3125. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, those in favor signify by voting aye, opposed by voting "no". Have all voted? Have all voted 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 111 "ayes", no "nays". House Bill 3125, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3140, Kirkland. The Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 3140, a Bill for an Act in relationship to units of local governments and school districts and to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Kane, Representative Jim Kirkland, on House Bill 3140."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3140 creates the Revenue Producing Commercial Paper Act and allows units of local government and school districts authorized to issue bonds and notes to issue other forms of interest bearing commercial paper in lieu thereof. The portion of this... of this Bill that originally related to the state income tax has been deleted. The Bill, with that portion deleted, passed the Revenue Committee 15 to nothing, and I know of no opposition at this time. The Governor has withdrawn his opposition, because that was based on the income tax portion of the... of the Bill. Commercial paper is defined in Article III of the Uniform Commercial Code and is basically a short-term promissory note of anywhere from a week to six months duration. This Act would give local governments and school districts freedom to issue this type of paper, which freedom is currently enjoyed by home rule units of government and used extensively by them. It has basically two advantages - one is that it allows local units and school districts to take advantage of a reversal in the last several years that has seen short-term commercial paper have lower interest rates than some of the 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 longer-term investment in debt instruments. This would save the taxpayers money for local governments to be able to go... to be able to use this debt. Secondly, this gives flexibility for local governments to match their short-term debt with maturing CD's, for instance, to pay off that debt and simply to have more flexibility in their short-term cash flow situations. Again, I know of no opposition, and I ask that this be approved."

"Representative Kirkland has moved for the passage of House Bill 3... 3140. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, those in favor signify by voting aye", opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Cn this question, there are 112 'ayes', no nays. House Bill 3140, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3197, Wait. The Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 3197, a Bill for an Act to provide for the deferral of payment concerning properties of senior citizens and disabled persons. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Econe (sic Belvidere), Representative Wait, on House Bill 3197."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 3197 would... would allow you to put a deferral of special assessments on the property for senior citizens and disabled persons, and this applies to those who would qualify for the Circuit Breaker. In other words, they would have to make under 12,000 dollars. As you recall, last year we allowed a similar thing like this for those who pay their property taxes, but this would apply to the special assessments. Often times the special assessments are, needless to say, twc or three times what the real estate taxes would be. I'd simply ask for your favorable 165  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCHIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 vote and be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Wait has moved for the passage of House Bill 3197. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, those in favor signify by voting aye, opposed by voting "no". Have all ucted? Bave all voted who wish? The Clerk will... I'm sorry. Bepresentative Bowman, your light's on. Have all vated who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 108 ayes', 2 'nays', 2 answering 'present'. House Bill 3197, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, On page 23, next Eill, appears House Bill 2792, Representative DeJaegher. The Clerk will read the Bill. 2792."

"House Bill 2792, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Third Beading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Rack Island, Representative Robert DeJaegher, on House Bill 2792."

"Thank youυ, ΜΙ. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. What this Bill does, it amends the School Code, and it provides that residency with any school district shall not be considered in determining the employsent or compensation of any noncertified employee. The real intent of this particular Bill is, what you might say, to end discrimination of sorts. Without a person being given the opportunity to be hired into a specific school district, I believe this is gross discrimination; and, for that particular reason, I ask for your support cn this particular Bill."

"Representative DeJaegher has moved for the passage of House Bill 2792. On that, the Lady from Cook, Representative Fraun."

"Question for the Sponsor." 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Be indicates he'll yield. Proceed."

"Representative DeJaegher, did Amendment #1 stay on this?"

"What's that?"

"Amendment #1, is that still on this Bill?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman, Gene Hoffman."

"Thank you very much. Would the Sponsor of this legislation yield to a question?"

"Yes. Proceed."

"Would this mean that someone who lived in Iowa, for example, could work at the Rock Island School District, and the taxpayers or the school board of that district would be prevented from saying that they couldn't employ or couldn't hire somebody from there?"

"That would be permissible for that person from Iowa to come into the school district, and I do live on the banks of the Mississippi, to come into that particular area and have employment."

"That isn't what the Bill says though. The Bill says that you would not... you could not agree to prevent that. Is that correct?"

"It permits a... It permits school... a school district to hire a person outside of that particular school district. Right at the present time there are school districts that do not permit hiring of an employee outside of a school district."

"Well, that's exactly... that was exactly my question. Let me ask you another question. Would this abrogate or prevent this kind of an agreement in a collective bargaining contract?"

"That's correct." 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

May 15, 1984 "Then you want... This would effectively take the rights of the employees and the employers away from making this kind of a decision under the collective bargaining legislation that I believe you, if I'm nct mistaken, supported last time."

"Yes. They... They basically couldn't prohibit it."

"I'm sorry. Would you repeat that again? This Bill would prohibit them from doing that. Is that correct?"

"It would prohibit them from requiring them from living in the district. Yes."

"That's right. In other words, it would prevent the employers and the employees to agree that people who are employed by that public body would have to live in the district. Then that in effect would be... would require... would require then... This would require the employers and the employees from not negotiating or being unable to negotiate this through a collective bargaining agreement. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House..."

"Froceed."

"...I rise in opposition to this legislation. I think during the last Session of the Legislature we passed collective bargaining. I think that local control in this area is important. I think they have... they have a right to make those kinds of decisions. In fact, the Chicago Board of Education has stated that effective January 1st, 1980 all new employees must live within the city limits of Chicago. I think there's scme argument for that. I think there's some logic for that, and I think that local school districts ought to have that authority. And regardless of perhaps some individual circumstances that have brought this about, I don't believe this is in the best interest of the people of the State of Illinois, and in particularly, I don't think this is in the best interest of the boys and 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day girls." May 15, 1984

"Representative Stuffle, the Gentleman from Vermilion."

"Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, the last comment I think deserves touching upon. I don't know how the employment of a noncertified cook or janitor would have a great deal of bearing on the boys and girls in the schools since these people aren't teaching then unless we have some pervert hired, and I don't think that has a lot to do with residency, Representative Hoffman. But I think you tried to slip that one by our Members, and these people aren't teaching school. The point of fact is that the downstate districts already have this provision in the law with regard to teachers, and the point of fact is that we have specific examples of people wherein one person may be teaching, let us say without using a specific, because I don't want to put anybody on the spot, but we could, where the husband, let us say, is a janitor in a school district B and the wife is a teacher in school district A. A teacher's not required to live in the other... in the district of where that person teaches. If we are to require that the noncertified janitors, shall we say, in district B move in, then it's obvious that we'd have one or the other living in the district of residency, the other one living the other place. It seems a little ridiculous. We have that problem in state without ever looking beyond the boarders of the state. That's why Representative DeJaegher put the Bill in in the first place - to treat downstate noncertified people in the same way we treat certified teachers in the state. For that reason, we ought to support the Bill. There are very few people going to be affected by this or this strange set of circumstances that might occur. Already that, as I said, is the case with 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 regard to teachers. I don't seek why we don't treat the noncertifieds the same way we treat the teachers in downstate Illinois. Someone raised the question about the Amendment #1, and in Committee some people attempted to, I think, convolute the logic regarding the separation of downstate and Chicago with regard to Amendments and what's in the law. The fact of the matter is that we acted in Chicago some years ago with regard to a grandfather clause on certified teachers. The Board since adopted their own regulations. We already treat them different than downstate, and the Bill ought to pass."

"Representative Friedrich, Dwight Friedrich."

"Well, Representative Stuffle partially answered the question, but I do have a question for the Sponsor. Did you agree to Amendment #12?"

"He answered yes."

"Well, I guess my question is if it's fair for Moline, why isn't it fair for Chicago? I don't see why someone living two blocks outside the City of Chicago shouldn't have the same rights as someone living across the river at Moline."

"There's a possibility that someday in the distant future that Chicago will accept this concept. But I've always been a firm believer, if you can get part of the pie, take part of that pie."

"Well, fair is fair. That's what I was trying to say."

"Representative John Dunn, the Gentleman from Macon." Dunn, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, too, rise in support of this legislation. As the previous speaker has indicated, we do have a provision similar to this in the statute books at the present time 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEGAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 for certified teachers, and the reason downstate that that provision was advocated is that often times in the smaller districts it just isn't possible to recruit only employees who live in the district. They may live in the next town, which may be only two or three miles away. The community may be SO small you just can't do this; and, if we're willing to say that this is a fair provision, an equitable provision, for certified teachers, I think its... the logic certainly does apply for noncertified teachers ΟΙ noncertified employees. And I would urge everyone to support this Bill. It's not something that's going to make anything come unglued in the State of Illinois. What it is going to do, however, is to remove che headache from the smaller districts in downstate Illinois who are beleaguered. Your people back home who will like you for voting for this Bill. I urge an aye vote."

"The Gentleman from Dewitt, Bepresentative Vinson."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"Yes. Proceed."

"Representative, your Bill prior to Amendment #1 related to residency within any school district, and Amendment #1 related to residency in cities. Now what's the story here? Why the discrepancy between the two?"

"Amendment #1 only applies to the City of Chicago."

"Yes, I know, but the Bill does not apply to cities. The Bill applies to school districts."

"One (sic Amendment #1) only afflies to cities over 500,000 population which is the City of Chicago."

"Now I understand that, but my concern is that the Bill, itself, only applies to school districts. The Amendment applies to cities. It would appear that #1 excludes the City of Chicago from the operation of the Eill; howeνει, 171  STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 the Bill is designed to act on the School Board of the City of Chicago, not the City of Chicago as a employer. That's my concern."

"They're basically one in the sare, are they not?"

"No, they're not. The City of Chicago is one local government unit, and the school board... the school district's another local governmental unit. Now I think we can get... ve can resolve the picklem as a matter of legislative intent. Let me ask you this question. Is it your intent that this Bill and the purpose of Amendment #1 to this Bill shall mean that the School Board of the City of Chicago is not covered... covered or regulated by this legislation?"

"That's correct."

"Thank you."

"Representative DeJaegher, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that my counterpart, Mr. Stuffle and Mr. John (sic - Cuon), has made an excellent presentation in my behalf, and I think they've made the Assembly quite knowledgeable of what the Bill does. All I can ask for at this particular time is an affirmative vote. Thank you."

"Representative DeJaegher has moved for the passage of House Bill 2792. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye, opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 78 ayes', 25 nays', 7 answering 'present'". House Bill 2792, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2799, Cullerton. The Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 2799, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Frocedure. Third Beading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Eepresentative John 172  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Cullerton, on Ecuse Bill 2799."

"Thank you, Hr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House. This Bill amends the Code of Civil Procedure, and it has to do with the issue of statute of limitations. It says that when a cause of action arises outside of Illinois and in another state where there is a shorter statute of limitations, the Illincis statute of limitations shall... should apply. So to give you an example, let's say someone is driving, someone who lives in Indiana is driving down to Florida, and they get involved in an accident, a car accident in Tennessee. The trucking company... Let's say they get in an accident with a truck. The trucking company doesn't do business in Indiana and; therefore, the victim could not sue in Indiana. However, the trucking company dces do business in Illincis. So he chooses to sue in Illinois. Say he lives in Hammond Cr Gary, and it's very convenient. Perhaps he might have an attorney who... who works in Chicago, SO he sues in Illinois. The problem, however, would be that Tennessee has a one year statute of limitations, and Illincis has only a two... has a two year statute. If he... Under current law, if he was to file the law suit in Illincis after a year passed, the law suit would be barred. And SO what this Bill says is that we're going to use the longer of the twc statute of limitations, and he would be allowed to file the law suit in Illinois after the year had expired. I appreciate your support in the Fill and be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Cullertoo has moved for the passage of House Bill 2799. On that, the Gertleman from DeWitt, Representative Vinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to House Eill 2799. I rise in 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 opposition to the Bill because the Bill does two things which are very mischievous and which will be very expensive for consumers in the State of Illinois and for people who have to buy insurance in the State of Illinois. As the Sponsor of the Bill has just explained, the affect of the Bill is to lengthen in a whole series of cases the statute of limitation. That means that causes of action will be alive much longer. That means the costs of defending cases will be extremely... will be increased substantially, and what that always means, as we know, as we have gone through in discussions about shortening statutes of limitation, what that means is the cost of insurance will increase. The costs of legal defense for manufacturers will increase, and that means the costs of products will increase. Consumers will pay more. Consumers of auto insurance, consumers of goods will pay much more as a result of this legislation. And for that reason, to protect the consumers in this state, I rise in opposition to the Bill and urge a "no" vote."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Tom McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I also oppose the Bill and opposed it in Committee. You know, this would be a very radical departure from a long history of what we call the borrowing provision of statutes between and among the states. The statute of limitations for almost all purposes, both of federal diversity law and conflicts of law purposes, is considered substantive in nature; and, for that reason, is applied only in relation to where the cause of action arose or the resident or the parties are residents of. So in the situation which this Bill covers, it would absolutely reverse this long-standing application of the borrowing 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCBIFTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 provision. The effect of it would be this, where Illincis has absolutely no interest in the law suit because the cause of action arose somewhere other than Illinois, where no Illincis residents or citizens are affected because the Bill applies only to nonresidents of Illinois. Illinois will not only will consider the case in its form, thereby creating more court activity here, but it will also apply its substantive law. It will say, EVEN though all the connection is with Indiana, we will allow suit to be brought here. We will apply a longer statute of limitation. We will apply a substantive law where in the past such would not be the case. It's a very radical departure from settled law in this area, and I respectfully submit that it should not be passed."

"The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Rich Erammer."

"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will. Froceed."

"Yes, Representative Cullerton, did you indicate that this is only applicable to nonresidents of the State of Illinois?"

"Representative Cullerton."

"That's correct. It only applies if... if the plantiff and the defendant are ncnresidents of Illinois. So it would not be, as Representative Vinson indicated, apply to a great number of cases."

"Mr. Speaker, if I might briefly..."

"Proceed."

"...address this matter. You know, I guess there are public policy matters that everyone who votes on this is going to have to consider in voting on it, but I would respectfully suggest that the... the insurance issue to the consumer of Illinois is a bogus issue because out-of-state 175  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CREATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 residents are not going to be insured in Illinois. They aren't going to have any impact on what the consumers in Illinois pay for insurance, whether they're automobile drivers, homeowners, or manufacturers or whatever, because those individuals are going to be cut-of-state individuals who, for one reason or another, want to have the benefit of the Illinois judicial system to determine the serits or the lack of merits of their case. So the... the impact on the consuming public to the State of Illinois, I would suggest, is not a legitimate issue. Some of the other issues discussed maybe ought to be weighed in determining whether or not we want to allow people to benefit from the use of the Illinois court system in determining issues of litigation that... in which venue is proper here for one reason or another, and I think it's a good Bill and ought to be supported."

"Representative Cullerton, to close."

"Yes, I think Representative Erummer adeguately addressed the issue raised by Bepresentative Vinson. The scare tactics and the buzz words that he used don't apply to this particular Bill. Maybe be can use them on another Bill. With regard to the points raised by Representative McCracken, не are talking about a situation where jurisdiction does exist in Illincis, SO there... there is... There has to be jurisdiction obviously; and, in the example I used, we're talking about a nonresident wha perhaps can't bring the law suit in their own home state because the defendant has no ties to that state. In the example I used, the person who resides in Indiana, has an accident in Tennessee, canno bring the law suit in Indiana, but brings the las suit in Illinois because that trucking company, perhaps that he was involved with in a collision with, does have and operate business in Illincis. 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REEBESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 So it's just a matter of being fair to use our statute of limitations when another state has a shorter statute of limitations. So I think that the issues raised by the opponents are... are really bogus, and I'd appreciate your support for the Bill."

"Representative Cullerton has moved for the passage of House Bill 2799. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye", opposed by voting "no". Have all... all voted? Have all voted? Have all vcted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Got to be quicker than that. On this question, there are 58 ayes", 51 'nays", and the Gentleman frca Cook, Representative Cullerton asks for a Poll of the Absentees. By the way, in your explanation, John, where... where do you bury the survivors? Think about that. That's a slow one. Clerk will poll the absentees."

"Poll of the Absentees. Capparelli."

"Aye? Capparelli aye."

"Domico. Hastert. Krska. Taylor. Vitek. Younge. Nc further."

"Homer 'aye'. Christensen'aye. Saltsman 'aye'. One moment. Saltsman 'aye'. Christensen 'aye". Just a minute. Vinson. Sam Vinson, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, should this have... appear to have the requisite number of votes, I request a verification of the affirmative roll."

"Alright. What's... What's the count? There are 63 ayes", 49 nays', and the Gentleman from DeWitt asks for a verification. The Clerk will read out the Affirmative Ecll Call."

"Pcll of the Affirmative."

"Members stay in your seat and raise your 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 hand when your name's announced."

"Alexander. Berrios. Eowman."

"One moment. Fepresentative Markette, what... what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, could I have leave to te verified?"

"The Lady asks leave to be verified. She has leave."

"Continuing with the Foll of the Affirmative. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brookins. Brummer. Bullock. Capparelli. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. DeJaegher. DiFrima. Doyle. John Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Bannig. Hicks. Homer. Buff. Jaffe. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurinc. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Markette. Marzuki. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McPike. Mulcabey. Nash. Oblinger. Panayotovich. Pangle. Fierce. Preston. Rea. Bben. Rice. Richmond. Bonan. Saltsman. Shaw. Slape. Steczo. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Wolf. Yourell and Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Vinson, on the verification."

"Representative Freslin."

"She's in her seat."

"Representative Doyle."

"Representative Doyle. Is Representative Doyle in the chamber? I don't see the Gentleman. How is be voted?"

"Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Where's he at? Remove him. Eastert. Бом is Hastert recorded?"

"Gentleman's not recorded as voting."

"Record him as voting "nay". Proceed."

"Representative John Dunn."

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"Representative Buff."

"Representative Doug Euff. Doug Huff. I don't see him. May 15, 1984 Representative How is he recorded?"

"Gentleman is recorded as voting "aye"."

"Remove him."

"Representative Flinn."

"Representative Flinn? Is Representative Flinn... I don't see him back there. How is he recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove him."

"Was he removed?"

"Yes."

"Representative Domico."

"Representative Domico is... I don't see his. How's he voted?"

"Gentleman is not recorded as voting."

"Alright. Leave him there. Proceed. Vinson."

"Representative Jaffe."

"Representative Jaffe. How is he recorded?"

"Gentleman is recorded as voting "aye"."

"Remove him."

"Representative Keane."

"Representative Jim Keane I saw here... He's in the aisle."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz. Representative Leverenz. How is he recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting "aye"."

"Remove him."

"Representative Mautino."

"Representative Mautino. How is be recorded?" 179  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Clerk Leone: "Gentleman's recorded as voting "aye"."

"Remove him. Froceed."

"Representative Panayotovich."

"Panayotovich is in his seat."

"Representative Preston."

"Representative Preston. How is he recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting "aye'."

"Remove him."

"Representative Shaw."

"Representative Shaw. One moment. Return Jaffe to the Roll Call voting aye'. Jaffe, return to the Roll Call. And return Doyle. Return Jaffe and Doyle. Now, Representative Shaw. Is Representative Shaw... I don't see him back there. How's Representative Shaw recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove him. Froceed."

"Representative Terzich."

"Representative Terzich. How's he recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting "aye'."

"Remove him. Froceed."

"Representative Turner."

"Turner is in the back."

"Representative White."

"Representative White. I saw him a moment ago. Did he leave again? Representative Jesse White? In the rear of the chamber. Proceed."

"Representative Currie."

"Representative Currie. I don't... I don't see Representative Currie. How's she recorded?"

"The Lady's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove her." 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY ACUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day

"Hr. Yourell."

"How's Representative Yourell recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove him. Froceed."

"No further questionS."

"There are 54 ayes', and the Gentleman from Cook asks leave... Representative Cullerton, for what purpose do you rise?#"

"Yes. I would ask that this be Fut cn Fostponed Consideration."

"That's a good request. The Gentleman asks leave that this matter be put on Fostponed Consideration. Does he have leave? Leave, and the Ecuse Bill 2799 will be placed on the Order of Postponed Consideration. House Bill 2800, Cullerton. Do you want to try that one, John? Read the Bil1."

"House Bill 2800, a Bill..."

"Out of the record. Once is enough. House Bill 2804, Breslin. Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 2804, a Eill for an Act relating to the property of state institutions of higher Feading of the Bill." learning.

Third Speaker Matijevich: "Representative Ereslin, Peg Breslin, on House Bill 2804."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill restricts retail sales in institutions of higher learning, not all retail sales, but there is a specific limitation as to books, food, beverages and those items connected with the university or the college itself dealing with research, studies or courses that are being provided there. This has really been the law in the State of Illinois since 1967, passed by the Illinois Legislature back then but, in Octcber of *83, was found 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 unconstitutional, not based on the substantive of the Bill, but, rather, on the procedure with which the Bill was passed. I understand that the Bill, once passed, was signed by the Governor of the state when it did not contain the Amendments that it had passed originally with through both the House and the Senate. As a consequence, it was... was declared unconstitutional for that technical reason alone. This Bill reinstitutes the law as it has presently been since 1967, and hopefully eliminates any of the technical problems. In addition to that, we have struck a compromise with the colleges and universities throughout the state with the adoption of Amendment #1. Amendment #1 provides that those retail sales that are restricted are only those which are reasonably to be expected to be in a significant level of general competition with the general public. In addition to that, there is a grandfather clause making January 1, 1980 the important date, so that if there are any items that have been sold in university book stores throughout the State of Illinois prior to January 1, 1980, that would be grandfathered in. The... The object of this Bill is, number one, to indicate that universities of higher learning should not be in direct competition with private companies or institutions that are owned... or would be leased... in a lease situation with those institutions. The... That is the object of the Bill. It is requested by retailers in those communities that have institutions of higher learning, and I would be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Breslin has moved for the passage of House Bill 2804. On that, Representative Ropp, the Gentleman from McLean."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will. Proceed." 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEБАТЕ 118th Legislative Day

"Representative, May 15, 1984 this has been a very interesting issue, and I'd like to at least, for legislative intent, ask SODE questions in order to assist me in determining which way to vote. And as I read the Fill here, it is somewhat confusing as to whether or nct a university may or may not lease property within their union facility, for example, and have that leased property sell merchandise to sta students on campus."

"This Act does not prohibit the leasing of space to private retailers in the State of Illinois. What it prohibits is that the person that has leased the space cannot engage in any activity that the institution itself could not engage in. In other words, if the lessor wants to... or the lessee wants to sell books or wants to sell food, they are certainly able to dc SO, because the institution can do so. However, they may not sell refrigerators. They may not sell computers. They may not get in... engaged in those activities that the institution itself is prohibited from doing under the Act."

"Does this then exclude selling university tee shirts?"

"NO, it does not include prohibiting selling university tee shirts or sweatshirts or anything like that that are commonly sold оп university property and are being sold today and were being sold prior to January 1, 1980."

"Okay. Hould, in fact, then... Does this also include anything that may be sold out at the golf course club house, like a golf bag, for example? competition with local business?"

Kould that be in Breslin: "If the... If the university has an athletic course that includes golf, then any of those items which would be involved in the conducting of a course for the university would not be excluded under this Eill."

"Okay. Shen you stated the explanation of this Bill, you 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 stated reasonably and general competition. What... Could you be more specific in who's going to determine what's reasonable and what's general in terms of competition with private businesses?"

"The legislation, the Amendment says, reasonably be expected to be in a significant level of general competition'. And the reason for that is that many of cur institutions of higher learning said that we all deal in different communities. If you live in the City of Chicago and there is a book store within a mile, it might not be in competition with someone locally or to the university itself. If you were within a mile in my community or in your community, it might be in general competition with a person in private enterprise. So, as a consequence, this is a remedy, we hope, to that problem."

"Okay. Would this still allow universities to set up, let's say, a travel agency? If they lease the space and a travel agency would come in, could they, in fact, operate and sell trips abroad or to the Super Bowl or something of that nature?"

"If... If the enterprise is not connected to the university itself or a course being offered by the university, then the... the university could not engage in that kind of competition with the general public, nor could a lessor or somebody who has leased property from them. To the extent that the university couldn't do it, then somebody who is leasing property from them may not do it either."

"Okay then..."

"Now, I can't, with regard to a travel agency, I cannot conceive of a course that that would be related to in any of our institutions of higher learning in the State of Illinois. However, you must remember also that if there is 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 presently a travel agency in existence and was in existence prior to January 1980, that travel agency is grandfathered in under this Act."

"Okay. There are certain courses that do travel abroad on a summer trips, on study missions and so forth as a part of a school curriculum. If that is currently being conducted within university, then a travel agency would be acceptable under your definition. Is that correct?"

"If it's determined that it's connected with the... the operation of the institution, yes."

"Alright. I guess one other final question, then. In terms of the... Does this exclude, then, any other area of the university that might possibly be in a process of leasing facilities, or does this just pertain to a university union?"

"No, it refers to the whole of the university, not just to the union."

"Okay. Then just very briefly to the Bill just to..."

"Proceed."

"... just to explain a little bit about what's going on and the concern that some universities have. Many universities have facilities, unions, for example, that students occupy a lot of time in. These facilities, at least in the institution in my particular district, was funded by school tuition and not by General Revenue funds from the State of Illinois. As these particular universities have found it very difficult to operate, they have, in fact, had to increase tuition fees to cover the costs of maintaining these facilities. Many universities then have had to turn to other avenues to secure money, such as leasing out space, allowing businesses to come in to sell things to students. Actually, it's made the university unions a much more livelier place in which to operate, and the students 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 certainly have enjoyed it. This has, in fact, caused some business concerns within the community, because they feel that the university is providing SODE competition. However, if universities are not in a position to, in fact, secure additional revenues in SCIE manner, that these tuition fees ees from students and parents, many of whom are within all of your districts, will have to somewhat be increased. And so, as you vote for this Bill, I would like you to take that into consideration. I do think they have worked out a reasonable agreement; but, if these universities are not permitted to, in some way, stay tuned to the time, allcw for competitive bidding of these leased spaces, students and families that live in your district will have to pay increased fees to maintain the existence of student unions on campuses throughout the State of Illinois."

"The Gentleman from Mcherry, Representative Dick Kleng."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"She indicates she will. Proceed."

"Just one guestion I have is why you selected January 1st, 1980 as the cut-off date, which is three and a half years from today for schools perhaps who have started something, say, two, three years ago not knowing you were going to pass this legislation which they would have to take it out. And, to expand on that, I know my community junior college uses the funds that they collect from Bany student activities and flows it right back in there. Why did you select this arbitrarily, ycu know, I guess this arbitrary date?"

"Sepresentative Breslin."

"January 1, 1980 was chosen, because the Yarger versus a board of regents of regency universities vas keyed to 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 that date. The 'Yarger' suit was the suit that finally found this... this law to be unconstitutional. That date was chosen because it was prior to this time that the activity did not occur. And after January 1, 1980, that was the activity that gave rise to the 'Yarger' suit. So, what we want to go back to are all of those activities that were in existence prior to January 1980."

"There being nc further discussion, Representative Breslin, to close."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, the object of this Bill is to say that tax supported institutions, which do not pay proferty or income taxes, should not be competing with the private sector when there is adequate competition in the private sector, and there is a... there is full availability of merchandise through private entrepreneurs. We should act te encouraging cur institutions of higher learning to build buildings so that they can lease out space and thus make money in competition with the private sector. There should be a limit on that. This Bill is one of the ways to limit that, and I suggest an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Question is, Shall House Bill 2804 pass? Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have al1 vcted who wish? Clerk will take the record. Jane Earnes 'aye'. On this question there are 106 'ayes', 4 'nays', and House Bill 2804, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2805, Homer. Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 2805, a Bill for an Act tc amend the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman frçı Fulton, Representative Tom Homer, on House Bill 2805." 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLI HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCBIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day

May 15, 1984 "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I would ask leave of the House to return this House Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment."

"Gentleman asks leave to return Ecuse Bill 2805 back to the Order of Second heading for the purpose of an Amendment. Does he have leave? Leave. The Bill is CD Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?" "Amendment #1, Ewing, amends House Bill 2805 on page Clerk Leone: one and so forth."

"Representative Ewing, on Amendment #1."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Amendment is being added to clear up any question that the IBS might have in regard to whether a parent has the right and the power to execute an agreement and an election under the special use valuations of our federal state tax return. In some districts in Illinois, the IBS has challenged these elections and these agreements where a parent has signed without being appointed guardian, but they indicate they local law controls. So, this Arendment would allow a parent, where their interest is substantially in line with that of the minor to make these elections. It is supported by the Illincis Bar Association, the Illinois Far Bureau, and I would ask for your favorable..."

"Representative Homer... Representative Ewing has moved the adoption cf Amendment #1. Being DC discussion, all in favor say 'aye, cpposed 'nay", and Arendment #1 is adopted. Further Arenduents?"

"No further Amendments.#

"Third Beading. Bepresentative Eomer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would move to suspend Bule 37 (c) and ask the House for immediate consideration of..."

"The Gentleman asks leave for the inmediate consideration of House Bill 2805 on Third Reading. Does he 188  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 have leave? Leave. Clerk will read the Bill.

"House Bill 2805, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Retailers' Occupation Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Homer, on House Bill 2805."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under current law, the Department of Revenue, in sales tax proceedings, is authorized to make adjustments and corrections to returns that have been incorrectly filed by taxpayers and also to prepare returns for taxpayers who have failed to make... or file returns. Also, under existing law, if, as a result of these changes, litigation issues or any legal proceedings, then the court is to consider any reproduced records of the... evidencing the change in the sales tax amounts. Under this Bill, all that would be changed is that the court would also take into consideration any computer printouts or any computer evidence under, of course, modern computerized methods. Computer records are more prevalent than the conventional ones. And all this Bill would simply do is to keep pace with that and put computer records on the same footing as reproduced records, when certified by the Department of Revenue. With respect to the Amendment, I would defer, if necessary, to Representative Ewing, who has already explained that Amendment which was adopted."

"Representative Homer has moved for the passage of House Bill 2805. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2805..... I'm sorry. Representative Greiman."

"Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"Yes, proceed."

"When... As I understand it, this Bill allows the Director of the Department of Revenue to certify printouts 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 and... Is that a certification in writing or is that oral certification?"

"No. This would have to be a certification in writing. It would have to bear the..."

"Okay. I noticed it also provides that he is to certify that they were in the regular course of the Department's business..."

"Correct."

"...and that they were reasonably near the time of occurrence. Is that right?"

"That's correct."

"And that would be customary kinds of certification that people would be making, right?"

"Right. That's to conform it to the language of the Business Records Act."

"Fine. But is that true also the language that says trustworthy and reliable information?"

"No, I think that... that would be in addition to what included in the Business Records Act."

"So that... So that that is not, then, what is in the Business Records Act. His certification is going beyond that which is in the Business Records Act. Is that right?"

"With respect to those... those terms, yes."

"So, then we would have a certification by a Director without the right of cross-examination, and I take it that the statute, once this is entered into evidence, that the state could argue that it was trustworthy and reliable; that we are creating sort of a left-handed presumption, are we not?"

"Well, I don't think it goes that far, Representative."

"Well, okay then, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"I think that we should pay a little attention to this 190  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83BD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 Bill. I recognize that the new technology requires a new response from the Legislature and from the Judiciary; but, in this particular Bill, it provides that the Director's certification shall be that it is certified as proper records - fine; that it's certified that it was taken around the time of occurrence - fine; that it was certified that they were from proper standard electronic computing equipment, and that's fine, but that the Director's certification that it is trustworthy or reliable absolutely goes to the very heart of the issue in question. It is the ultimate issue in the case, whether the evidence is trustworthy and reliable. It is for a jury or a Judge or the trier of fact instead of a certification from a Director who is beyond the cross-examination of a defendant. Now, I don't see a great interest in this by anybody, maybe, except me; but, nonetheless... nonetheless, it is... I think I would vote for this Bill if the presumption, and it's a presumption clearly that it is trustworthy and reliable information if that were removed. But without that, I will vote "no", because it denies a litigant the right of cross-examination of the Director and of the person who tries the facts. I am not willing to give up a judicial process to a computer."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Carol Braun."

"A question of the Sponsor."

"Proceed."

"Where is he? Representative, does this Bill have any safeguards against computer tampering or some misinformation being included in the computer printout. That is to say is there anything included in the legislation which would provide for checks within the Department of the information which is generated by the 191  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 computer and thereafter to be certified by the Director?"

"NO, and let De just, in ansser to your question, Representative Braun, also respond to Bepresentative Jaffe's guestion. There's nothing in this Bill that would make this evidence conclusive on any adjudicator of fact or court of law. All that we're dealing with here is an exception to the hearsay rule. That's all that this Bill deals with. Ordinarily, in order for such evidence to be admissable, the declarer must be present and testify in court. But because of the way the business world and because of the complexity of it, we have, as you know, a business records exception to the hearsay rule, which just simply provides that this evidence would be admissable and could be considered along with all other evidence in the case, including those presented by either party in the case. It certainly is not conclusive on the adjudicator of fact and the words that Bepresentative Jaffe complains about are simply gratuitous, add really nothing to the Bill other than the fact that in the opinion of the Director of Revenue that the information is trustworthy and reliable. And I would submit that we certainly wouldn't want the Director of Bevenue to submit a document that, in his opinion, was not trustworthy and reliable, and it's just implicit in the concept. But it certainly does not preclude a converse finding by the trier of fact. And it would not, Representative Braun, impair questioning the validity of those computer records."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"I regretably rise in opposition to this Bill. There is a kind of jargon in the computer world that goes garbage in - garbage out, and I think the first time any Member here has a constituent who is being tried by the Department of 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 Bevenue on the basis of something that's been generated by a computer for which there are no checks, about which it is almost impossible to get back into the computer to verify, the first time that happens we will recognize the gravity of what this Bill suggests. I want to suggest to you that we have not yet gotten to the point where our technology can be monitored and checked so as to protect people who may be called forward to respond in a judicial circumstance to a charge by the Department of Revenue. We don't have the protections yet to make sure that that information generated out of the computer is true and correct information as might be maintained on the actual books of the Department. And I think that it would te a serious error for us to pass this legislation at this time and in this present fore."

"Representative Greiman, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Well, I rise on a unique point of personal privilege. My name was not repre... not mentioned in debate. And, Mr. Homer, I am Representative Greinan, not Representative Jaffe. Yes, Mr. Jaffe sits over there, and I sit here. But we do have similarities, and I understand the mistake."

"Both from Skokie. Representative... The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Computer generated records are already admissable under the Business Records Doctrine. It's merely the foundation that has to be laid, which brings them within the scope of the rule. That foundation is already set forth in Illinois caselaw. So, this is not such a radical departure from conson law rules of evidence and merely... Huh? No, that was a radical departure. So, this isn't so different. And, you know, the Department of Revenue already has the right to use... it already has the 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMEIY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 right to use records with prima facia correctness imputed to them as a matter of law. So, this is merely to bring the Department of Revenue's enforcement authority in the 20th Century. I think it should be supported."

"Representative Homer, to close  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 15, 1984 "ayes", 21 'Days", 13 answering present. House Bill 2805, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Gentleman frça Winnebago, Representative Giorgi, for what purpose are you seeking... Yeah, he would have wanted to say something, but he left his seat again. Representative Giorgi. Alright. Alright. Representative Giorgi's here nck. Oh, 1'm sorry. Representative NcPike, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Thank you. HI. Speaker. I would move to waive the posting requirements for Senate Eill 1585 SO it can be heard in Rules Committee tomorrcW orrow acrning. The Bules Committee will be held at 8:55 a.. in the conference room, the Speaker's Chamber. This has been cleared with the Bepublican side of the aisle."

"Alright. Representative McPike has asked leave and the use of the Attendance Boll Call to suspend the posting notice on Senate Bill what number was that? Senate Bill... Senate Bill 1585 SC that the Rules Committee... Fules Committee can meet five minutes before we go into Session tomorrow morning at the Speaker's Conference Room. And that has been cleared. Does he have leave? Leave, and that Bill will te heard in Bules Committee tomorrow morning, 8:55. Agreed Resolutions. Yeah. Yeah, read..."

"House Resolution 927, Topinka: 928, Johnson; and 929, Madigan."

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Repesentative Giorgi. I think we want... We're going to hear SGRE more good words about Bus Yourell. Would the Clerk read the Resolution that relates to Bus Yourel12

"House Resolution 929. Whereas, it has come to the attention of this House that one of its Member, Harry 'Bus' Yourell, is resigning his position to become Cook County 195  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 15, 1984 118th Legislative Day Recorder..."

"Yourell, why don't you take the Chair now as long as we're on your Resolution? Come on."

"And whereas, Harry 'Bus' Yourell, who has provided his constituents in Chicago with the very best representation in his more than 17 years in the Illinois General Assembly, will undoubtedly be further of service to the people of Cook County as their Recorder; and whereas, in his many years of devoted and dedicated service in the Illinois General Assembly, Harry 'Bus' Yourell has earned the respect of his colleagues in both chambers of this Legislative Body and both sides of the aisle; and whereas, Harry 'Bus' Yourell has always been known as a man of honesty, honor and integrity, who has repeatedly acted in the best interest of all the people of this great State of Illinois; and whereas, as a Member of the Leadership team in the House of Representatives, Harry 'Bus' Yourell has been instrumental in the efficient operation of this House; and whereas, Representative Harry 'Bus' Yourell has served as the Chairman of the Counties and Townships Committee of the House, a Member of the Executive Committee of the House, a Member of the Cities and Village Committee of the House, the Chairman of the Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, the Chairman of the Election Laws Commission, the Chairman of County Problems Commission, a Member of the Financing of Education Commission and a Member of the Pollution Control Study Commission; whereas, Harry 'Bus' Yourell has received numerous awards during his legislation career; and whereas, he will be missed... this fine Legislator and wonderful human being. Therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that we congratulate Representative Harry 'Bus' Yourell upon the 196  118th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCHIFIION DEBATE May 15, 1984 occasion of his retirement and that we thank him for his diligent work for these many years, and we wish his many years of success in his new post as Cock County Recorder. And be it further resclved that a suitable copy of this Preamble and Resolution be presented tc Harry Bus' Yourell as a token of our esteem.

"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Giorgi, on the Agreed besolutions."

"Mr. Speaker, 927, by Topinka, marks the 50th anniversary of the ladies Auxiliary of Erackfield Post; 928, by Johnson, talks about a retirement; and, of course, 929, by Madigan, honors Bus Yourell, and I think the icuse ought to give Bus Yourell a standing ovation for his outstanding service of this house."

"I'd like to turn this over briefly for some remarks from oar good friend, Our good friend, Bus Yourell."

"Thank you, John. I just received word that John Dunn, my seatmate for several years in the house, wants to move to reconsider this Besclution that's about to be adopted. And be tells me, and I guess rightfully so, that all that I cue to the citizens of Illincis that YOU'VE all heard a great deal about I owe to hir, because he pressed my switch on nost of the occasions. Sc, 1 suppose that the Resolution should include John Dunn and my other seatmates. But seriously I have to tell you this. Those of you wha are still here and will be here after tomorrow, when I won't be here, will face the same kind of dilesma that 1 facing today. I've served, as some of us have, with six Governors and seven Speakers of the house and, in previous years, 177 Kenters and most recently 118 Members. And I can tell you, and I'm sure that you'll realize as time goes by, that you could never serve in a finer Body, and I gean 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEGAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBΑΞΕ 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984 by that a legislative forum, because the Executive Eranch of government, the Judicial Eranch of government cannot compare in the Branch that you serse. But you have the opportunity to serve all of the citizens, the 12 million plus in Illinois. And ever though some of you who never get up on the floor to speak, you, too, serve, because you represent a point of view that's important to the citizens of this state. And it's important to each and every one of us. And I can recall many times when I thought what the bell am I don't down here? When I first came down here in 1966, I didn't think I'd run for the second term, but I met many fine friends, men and WODED who shared the same concern that I had with the State of Illinois and things that are important to the state. And the only thing that I can tell you is that you, as time goes on, particularly the freshman Members and the junior Menters and those that have served a few terss, will suddenly realize, as you go on in your career, that you'll get letters sometimes that commend you for the actions you take, the votes that you cast, and you'll get letters that condemn you for the votes that you cast and the actions you take. Bemember one thing. It's a great forum.. Use it. Don't misuse it. Don't abuse it. You'll be a very happy person when it comes to an end, such is happening to me today. Thank you."

"Representative Giorgi has moved the adoption of the Death Resolutions. Those in favor say "aye", opposed Day, and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. You WCD on a close vote, EUS. Further business? Death Resolutions."

"House Resolution 926, Shas, with respect to the memory of Mrs. Delores Brant Stapleton of Chicago. And Senate Joint Resolution 111, Yourell, sith respect to the memory of Sidney R. Olson of Chicago." 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day May 15, 1984

"Representative Giorgi has moved the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The Death Resolutions are adopted. Introduction First Reading of Bills."

"House Bill 3275, Yourell, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill."

"You never give up, Fus. Senate Bills First Reading."

"Senate Bill 1657, Oblinger, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Medical Practice Act. First Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Satterthwaite, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, I rise on a totally different subject. There was an invitation to the women Members of the Legislature to attend the Springfield Women's Network meeting tonight. I just wanted to the Members to all be aware that the time has been extended to 9:00 because of the late Session today."

"Thank you. There being no further business, Representative, the Majority Leader, Jim McPike, has moved that the House do stand adjourned until 9:00 a.m. in the morning. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'nay', and the House is now in adjournment till 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning." 199  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1984 PAGE 1 HB-1535 SECOND READING PAGE 66 HB-1535 SECOND READING PAGE 140 HE-1535 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 145 HB-1535 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 67 BB-1556 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 67 HB-2040 SECOND READING PAGE 67 HB-2208 SECOND BEADING FAGE 68 HB-2213 SECOND HEADING FAGE 69 HB-2310 CONCURRENCE PAGE 1.39 HB-2364 SECOND READING FAGE 70 HB-2366 SECOND READING FAGE 70 HB-2417 OUT OF RECORD FAGE 73 HB-2419 SECOND BEADING PAGE 74 HB-2423 SECOND READING PAGE 75 HB-2426 OUT OF BECORD PAGE 76 HB-2481 SECOND READING FAGE 3 HB-2510 SECOND READING PAGE 85 HB-2512 SECOND BEADING PAGE 77 HB-2549 SECOND BEADING PAGE 91 HB-2606 SECOND BEADING PAGE 86 HB-2626 SECOND READING PAGE 91 BB-2627 SECOND READING PAGE 92 HB-2636 SECOND READING PAGE 94 HB-2637 SECOND READING FAGE 95 HB-2639 SECOND BEADING PAGE 102 HB-2640 SECOND READING PAGE 102 HB-2641 SECOND BEADING PAGE 106 HB-2642 SECOND READING PAGE 107 HB-2643 SECOND READING FAGE 109 HB-2644 SECOND READING PAGE 114 HB-2645 SECOND READING PAGE 115 HB-2646 SECOND READING PAGE 115 HB-2648 SECOND READING FAGE 116 HB-2652 SECOND READING FAGE 118 HB-2653 SECOND READING FAGE 118 HB-2654 SECOND REACING PAGE 123 HB-2655 SECOND HEADING FAGE 123 HB-2657 THIRD READING PAGE 150 HB-2657 OUT OF BECORD PAGE 151 HB-2678 THIRD BEADING PAGE 148 HB-2681 SECOND READING FAGE 3 HB-2689 CONCUBRENCE FAGE 145 HB-2702 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2716 SECOND READING PAGE 87 HB-2721 THIRD READING PAGE 36 HB-2729 SECOND READING PAGE 124 HB-2739 SECOND READING FAGE 125 HB-2765 RECALLED PAGE 128 HB-2769 SECOND READING PAGE 125 HB-2776 SECOND READING PAGE 125 HB-2788 SECOND BEADING PAGE 126 HB-2789 SECOND BEADING PAGE 126 HB-2792 THIRD READING FAGE 166 HB-2799 THIRD READING FAGE 172 HB-2804 THIRD READING FAGE 181 HB-2805 RECALLED PAGE 187 HB-2805 THIRD READING FAGE 189 HB-2810 THIRD READING PAGE 151 HB-2811 THIRD READING PAGE 153 HB-2821 SECOND BEADING FAGE 126 HB-2837 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-2856 THIRD READING PAGE 154 HB-2869 SECOND READING PAGE 88 HB-2875 SECOND READING PAGE 130 HB-2878 SECOND READING FAGE 138  09/11/84 15:32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1984 PAGE 2 HB-2900 THIRD READING PAGE 155 HB-2900 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 156 HB-2905 THIRD READING FAGE 156 HB-2924 SECOND READING FAGE 7 HB-2926 SECOND READING PAGE 131 HB-2934 SECOND READING PAGE 132 HB-2946 RECALLED PAGE 158 HB-2946 THIRD BEADING PAGE 159 HB-3001 SECOND FEADING PAGE 132 HB-3025 SECOND READING FAGE 127 HB-3027 SECOND BEADING PAGE 133 HB-3045 SECOND READING FAGE 134 HB-3052 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 134 BB-3057 SECOND READING PAGE 135 HB-3063 SECOND SEADING FAGE 138 HB-3069 SECOND HEADING PAGE 14 HB-3071 SECOND HEADING PAGE 127 HB-3072 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-3086 THIRD BEADING PAGE 162 HB-3096 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-3097 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-3097 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 22 HB-3098 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-3099 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-3101 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-3102 SECOND READING FAGE 23 BB-3106 SECOND BEADING PAGE 10 HB-3117 SECOND BEADING PAGE 25 HB-3119 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3125 THIRD READING PAGE 16.3 HB-3127 SECOND READING FAGE 11 HB-3127 HELD ON SECOND PAGE 14 HB-3128 SECOND BEADING PAGE 27 HB-3129 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3134 SECOND READING FAGE 135 HB-3140 THIRD READING FAGE 164 HB-3143 SECOND BEADING PAGE 29 HB-3148 SECOND READING PAGE 30 HB-3152 SECOND READING PAGE 43 HB-3162 SECOND READING PAGE 43 HB-3162 OUT OF BECORD PAGE 51 HB-3165 SECOND BEADING PAGE 51 HB-3172 SECOND FEADING PAGE 51 HB-3172 TABLED PAGE 51 HB-3175 SECOND READING PAGE 51 HB-3176 SECOND READING PAGE 52 HB-3177 SECOND READING PAGE 52 HB-3177 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 52 HB-3178 SECOND BEADING FAGE 52 HB-3179 SECOND READING FAGE 53 HB-3180 SECOND BEADING PAGE 53 HB-3183 SECOND READING PAGE 53 HB-3197 THIRD READING PAGE 165 HB-3201 SECOND READING FAGE 54 HB-3202 SECOND READING FAGE 54 BB-3203 SECOND BEADING PAGE 54 HB-3204 SECOND READING PAGE 54 HB-3205 OUT OF BECORD FAGE 55 HB-3206 OUT OF BECORE PAGE 56 HB-3208 SECOND READING PAGE 56 HB-3216 SECOND READING PAGE 57 HB-3229 SECOND READING FAGE 57 HB-3229 OUT OF BECORD PAGE 59 HB-3230 SECOND READING FAGE 60 HB-3233 SECOND READING PAGE 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 15, 1984 PAGE 3 HB-3234 SECOND HEADING PAGE 64 HB-3235 SECOND READING PAGE 129 HB-3239 SECOND READING PAGE 65 HB-3240 SECOND READING PAGE 66 HB-3246 SECOND READING FAGE 66 HB-3275 FIRST READING PAGE 199 SB-1657 FIRST BEADING FAGE 199 HR-0929 ADOPTED PAGE 195 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER REPRESENTATIVE MСРІКЕ PAGE 1 PRAYER BEVEREND BICHARD MILLEB PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 2 REPRESENTATIVE BRESLIN IN CHAIR PAGE 25 REPRESENTATIVE MATIJEVICE IN CHAIR PAGE 64 BEPRESENTATIVE BRESLIN IN CHAIR PAGE 68 SPEAKER MADIGAN IN CHAIE PAGE 1.37 REPRESENTATIVE MATIJEVICE IN CHAIR PAGE 150 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 195 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 198 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 199