"The hour of 12:00 having arrived, the House will now be in Session. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Phillip Icenogle, Pastor, First United Methodist Church of Springfield. Reverend Icenogle is a guest of Representative Michael Curran. Will the guests in the gallery please rise and join us for the invocation?
Reverend Icenogle."
"Let us pray. O Lord, our God, we gather here in Your presence to offer up our gratitude for the gift of life and for the joy of serving You through the service of others. We pray, as this Session of the House of Representatives would meet, that Your spirit would be felt, that Your presence would be known, in compassion and love as decisions are made, as lives are affected. So draw near, O God, to touch each Member here, their families, their loved ones. Be close to them. We pray for the flood victims of our state and for other persons who suffer unjustly. Be present now, we pray, in this time, and we will give You praise and thanks. Amen."
"Representative Ropp will lead us in the Pledge to the flag."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Clerk, take the record. 114 Members having answered to the quorum call, a quorum is present. Mr. Matijevich, do you have excused absences on the Democratic side?"
"Yes. Yes, Mr. Speaker, let the record show Representative Berrios as an excused absence today."
"Let the record so reflect. Mr. Vinson or Mr. 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day Piel? Mr. Piel." March 13, 1985
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the record show that Representative Virginia Frederick is excused today?"
"Let the record so reflect. Committee Reports."
"Representative Ronan, Chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Motor Vehicles, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken March 12, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bills 157 and 340; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 31, Representative Steczo, Chairman of the Committee on Cities and Villages, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken March 12, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass' House Bill 314 and 336. Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken March 12, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' House Bill 27; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 391; 'do pass as amended Short Debate Calendar' House Bill 26 and 43. Representative Mulcahey, Chairman of the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education, to which the following Bill was referred, action taken March 13, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 242."
"Introduction of Bills. First Reading."
"House Bill 649, Curran, a Bill for an Act to provide additional financial support to local school districts. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 650, offered by Representative Tate and Homer, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Real Estate Time Share Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 651, offered by Representative Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Office of Commissioner of Savings and Loans. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 652, offered by Representative Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Prisoner Review Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 653, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Local Government Law Enforcement Officers' Training Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 654, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the State Employees' Retirement System. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 655, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Teachers' Retirement System. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 656, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Pollution Control Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 657, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 658, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Local Labor Relations Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 659, Hastert Daniels and Ryder, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Human Rights Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 660, Hastert Daniels and Ryder, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Human Rights. First Reading of the 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day Bill. March 13, 1985 House Bill 661, Hastert Daniels and Wojcik, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Medical Center Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 662, Hastert Daniels and Frederick, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Guardianship and Advocacy Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 663, Hastert Daniels and Deuchler, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of State Emergency Services and Disaster Agency. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 664, Hastert Daniels and Ryder, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Children and Family Services. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 665, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Military and Naval Department. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 666, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Commerce Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 667, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Liquor Control Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 668, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Revenue. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 669, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act to making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the State Labor Relations Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 670, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Racing 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 671, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Property Tax Appeal Board. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 672, Hastert Daniels and Virginia Frederick, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense for the Department of Public Health, Governor's Council on Health and Physical Fitness and the Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois - Division of Service for Crippled Children. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 673, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Employment Security. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 674, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 675, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Conservation. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 676, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the General Assembly Retirement System. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 677, Barnes and Daniels, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Judges' Retirement System. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 678, Hastert Daniels and Ryder, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Rehabilitation Services. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 673, Hastert Daniels and Ryder. a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Mental Health 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 and Developmental Disabilities. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 680, Klemm, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Medical Practice Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 681, Klemm, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to county zoning. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 682, Kulas Keane Oblinger et al, a Bill for an Act concerning the regulation of the practice of respiratory care. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 683, Hastert Daniels and Peterson, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois State Historical Library. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 684, McGann et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unemployment Insurance Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 685, Bullock Terzich Mulcahey McAuliffe and Panayotovich et al, a Bill for an Act relating to school districts and boards of education for school districts located in cities having a population in excess of 500,000. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 686, Didrickson, a Bill for an Act in relation to dual capacity doctrine. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 687, Greiman, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Lobbyist Registration Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 688, Saltsman, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 689, W. Peterson and B. Pedersen, a Bill for an Act in relation to the sale of water by certain municipalities. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 690, Cullerton et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Veterinarian Medicine and Surgical Practice Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 691, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 692, 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day Cullerton, a March 13, 1985 Bill for an Act to add Sections to an Act in relation to State Police. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 693, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the State Attorneys' Appellate Service Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 694, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the State Attorneys' Appellate Service Commission Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 695, Johnson and Breslin, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relation to owner and resident... of residential property to prescribe the rights and duties of owners and residents and to amend Acts and repeal parts of Acts in connection therewith. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 696, Van Duyne, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 697, Rice et al, a Bill for an Act to prohibit unfavorable credit reporting by credit reporting agencies in certain cases. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 698, offered by Representative Ropp, a Bill for an Act to amend... to add Sections to the Hospital Licensing Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 699, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act in relation to chartering and regulation of consumer banks and amending certain Acts herein named. First Reading of the Bill."
"For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, seek recognition?"
"To announce a change in the meeting time for the Appropriations II Committee tomorrow morning. Instead of the posted time of 8:00, we have basically one item on our agenda, so I recommend a 9:00 meeting time. So, Appropriations II Committee will meet at 9:00 tomorrow morning in Room 118."
"Alright. So, Mr. Bowman has announced that Appropriations II will meet at 9:00 tomorrow morning. And 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 for what purpose does the Lady from Champaign, Miss Satterthwaite, seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, House Higher Education Committee which was scheduled for 4:00 this afternoon has been cancelled."
"So, the House Higher Education Committee will not meet today. That meeting has been cancelled. On page two of the Calendar, on the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 129, Mr. Hannig. Mr. Hannig. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 253, Mr. O'Connell. Do you wish to proceed? Yes? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 253, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments filed?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 284. Mr. Terzich? Mr. Terzich, do you wish to proceed on 284? Okay. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 284, a Bill for an Act to repeal Section 5 of an Act to establish Northeastern Illinois University in providing for its operation, management, control, and maintenance. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Yes. Excuse me. Mr. Cullerton, for what 8 14th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Could you ask the Sponsor if he could please take it out of the record for a second?"
"Mr. Terzich will gladly take it out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 23. Mr. Giorgi, do you wish to proceed on that Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 23, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to an Act in relation to Northeastern Illinois University. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #2 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, page two of the Calendar, appears House Bill 40. Mr. Klemm, do you wish to proceed? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 49, Miss Younge. Miss Younge, do you wish to proceed? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 146. Mr. Harris? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 146, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments. No Committee..."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 156. Miss Satterthwaite, do you wish to proceed? 156. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 156, a Bill for an Act to amend 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day Sections of the Firemen's Disciplinary Act. of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?" March 13, 1985
Second Reading Clerk O'Brien: "None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 177. Mr. Giglio? Mr. Clerk... Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 188. Mr. Countryman, do you wish to proceed? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 217. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 217, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. For what purpose does the Lady from Marshall seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just was already speaking... putting on my speak button because mine was the next Bill, and I wanted to inquire as to whether or not the Amendment was printed and distributed before I decided to go ahead."
"Well, we'll have it called in the ordinary course. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, appears House Bill 332. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 332, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 Koehler and McCracken, amends House Bill 332 as amended."
"The Lady from Marshall, Miss Koehler."
"Mr. Speaker, may I inquire as to whether or not that Amendment has been distributed?"
"Excuse me, Miss Koehler. For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, seek recognition?"
"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I believe the Amendment has just reached half of the desks. So, if we would just want to wait for a few minutes until the Clerk..."
"I'm sure Miss Koehler would like to give you that courtesy. We'll take this out of the record for a short time. Now we will return to House Bill... On the Order of Second Reading House Bills... House Bill 284. That's Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar. House Bill 284. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 284, a Bill for an Act to repeal Sections of an Act to establish Northeastern Illinois University. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading... We will now be... On page two of the Calendar, House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate Calendar, and On that Order appears House Bill 99. Out of the House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 137. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 137, a Bill for an Act in relation to county zoning. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Church... Lake, Mr. Churchill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 House. Last year we passed a Bill that gave counties in excess of 500,000 population the right το deal with agricultural parcels of land of less than five acres. This Bill solely includes Lake County by reducing from 500,000 to 400,000 the amount required for this statute."
"The Gentleman from Lake has moved for the passage of House Bill 137. This is on Short Debate. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Proceed. The Sponsor will yield."
"Representative Churchill... Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Churchill, did you indicate that the Bill that authorized Cook and DuPage County to do this practice was passed last year?"
"That's correct."
"Do you know why Lake County was excluded last year when this was passed?"
"I haven't the slightest idea."
"Do you think it was an oversight?"
"I haven't the slightest idea."
"And has some officials from Lake County indicated that they wish to have this power?"
"That is correct."
"And why do they wish to have this power?"
"Apparently they feel that they have some problems with people who have horses on very small parcels of property and that there is a state's attorney's opinion that they are not able to deal with these problems with the law as it presently stands. Because this is such an urban county, it was felt by the local state's attorney and the county building and zoning department that including Lake County in this Bill would give them the power to deal with 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 14th Legislative Day this problem."
"Alright. Thank you."
"Alright. Does anyone stand in opposition now to this Bill? This is now final passage... This is Third Reading. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 137 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Third Reading. Final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Move quickly, Mr. Ewing. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 223. Mr. Pangle? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 223, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to an Act in relation to fire protection districts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Kankakee, Mr. Pangle."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 223 is a Bill that sets up a mechanism for a fee structure for fire protection districts to charge for fires of vehicles that are not in their fire protection district, as far as paying their tax into that district. The reason for the Bill is that downstate and along some interstate highways the fire protection districts is often called on to go onto that interstate and put out truck fires, car fires and so forth. And, in fact, in some fire protection districts, as much as 75 percent of their fire protection district tax dollars is spent on putting out fires for vehicles and so forth other than the folks that pay for that protection within their fire protection district. What this Bill does is it sets up a mechanism 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 for each fire protection district to charge $25 per hour per vehicle and $10 per man for firefighter per hour to go into their fire protection district fund. And it is something that is much needed, especially in the downstate fire districts, due to the fact that the people that actually pay the tax dollars into the fire protection district are not getting the service, the training that they could have because the money that they have is being spent on interstate and so forth with people that really don't live in their fire protection district. And I'll be happy to answer any questions."
"The Gentleman from Kankakee has moved for the passage of House Bill 223. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from Lee, Mr. Olson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Representative Pangle, I think I understand the thrust of the Bill. This does not have any relevance to those fire protection districts that offer ambulance service. This is strictly in the area of fire protection. Is that correct?"
"That's correct."
"Alright. Thank you very much."
"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open and this is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 108 voting 'aye', I voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, on page three of the Calendar, appears House Bill 13. Mr. Leverenz? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985
"House Bill 13, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 13 has been amended. It doesn't do anything that the original Bill did. The original Bill was a repealer and what we have done is used that Bill for Amendment purposes. The Amendment would provide that people using streets to jog on would basically follow the same rules as a pedestrian walking on a street; that is that they would use the left side of the highway and that they would jog toward traffic and that they would further wear bright colored clothing during daylight hours. The second thing that the Bill did also is put into law what the organizations that have meets and runs do already with the Illinois Department of Transportation, and that is that an organization that wants to use a state highway for a ten mile run or whatever simply writes a letter to the Department of Transportation requesting the use and the Department of Transportation sends them back a letter authorizing the use of the highway. So, I would ask for your 'aye' vote and pass House Bill 13 as amended."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, has moved for the passage of House Bill 13. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Indicates that he will."
"Representative Leverenz, on page two of your Amendment to this Bill it appears that you are going to require that a jogger wear some type of clothing that is visible from a distance of at least a 100 feet, is that 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 14th Legislative Day correct?"
"That's correct."
"The purpose of this requirement would be to protect that individual jogger from being hit by a vehicle, is that correct?"
"That's true."
"So that what this Bill would do would be to stand for the proposition that the government in certain circumstances has the right to tell people what to wear in order to make it safer on our state highways, isn't that correct?"
"I would agree with that simply... much the same logic as your seatbelt, yes."
"And also it's very similar to the deer hunting statute which requires deer hunters to wear a specific amount of square inches of reflective clothing so that the deer hunters are safe when they're out hunting for deer, is that correct?"
"Yes, that's correct."
"Well, I think this is an excellent idea, Mr. Speaker. I think it's consistent with other laws that we've passed, and I think that it's certainly within the power of the government because it deals with the safety of its citizens. And I think it should be passed."
"The Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And for Mr. Cullerton's benefit I would say that he didn't need to wake me up, I'd already read this Bill. I would like... I wonder if the Sponsor might yield for questions?"
"Indicates that he will."
"Representative, I have several concerns about this Bill. What constitutes a two-way street or highway in Illinois? Is there a definition in the statutes on that?" 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 14th Legislative Day
"Yes, I would think so. It's the one with the stripe in the center."
"Is there a definition, though, in the statute that defines what a street or highway is?"
"You know, I really don't know. I think it might be opposite. They define what a one-way street is. That's the one with the one-way signs."
"Well, here's one of my concerns about this Bill and maybe you can explain it."
"I'm very sorry that Representative Cullerton woke you up."
"No, I say I woke up before he spoke on the Bill."
"I'm still very sorry."
"Are you familiar with the jogging path along Lake Michigan in Lincoln Park, for instance?"
"Am I familiar with it? No. Are you?"
"My question is, would that constitute a street or a highway under this..."
"No. not at all. That's a... As a matter of fact, I think all of those paths are cinder paths through all the parks up there."
"No. A number of them are paved. And there is automobile traffic. Some limited automobile traffic on those paths."
"The whole lakeshore, however, is part of the park district rather than the state right-of-way."
"So, this would... this only applies to state right-of-way."
"That's right."
"It does not apply at anytime to municipal right-of-way."
"Oh, yes, it does, too. The second part of it is state highway with getting a letter authorizing an organization to use the city... or the state highway as they are doing 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 currently. And the first part sets forth that when you're using a city street, village street, a municipal street, as in a country setting, you would walk on the left side against traffic. We are putting in there that joggers will also use the left side and run against traffic."
"Okay, now does that apply even if the street has not been formerly used as a street, but is a dedicated street?"
"If it isn't a street..."
"If it's not used as a street but actually is carried on the plat map of the municipality as a street."
"Probably not. The street wouldn't be paved. It could be dedicated. There are streets like that in the Village of Westchester where they have sidewalks as a matter of fact. The streets are in, but the property currently is being purchased by the state piecemeal. I would suggest not."
"It would not apply in that case."
"Correct."
"Okay, now the language in regard to clothing. There's a standard there about visibility."
"Correct."
"What if it's a foggy day and you can't see anything a 100 feet away? Is this a standard... a clear day standard that would also apply on a foggy day standard..."
"These are reasonable. As a matter of fact, the ones for hunters are more severe. They actually set forth the number of square inches of material that you have on your body. This just simply provides for orange, yellow, white or silver reflecting material. Normally it's a headband, or a vest, or a belt, or a leg band."
"I understand that, and I wear those things when I jog. My interest in this Bill, Representative, is not... does not stem from my interest in seatbelts. It stems from my 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 interest as a jogger. I do have a conflict of interest on this. I will vote my conscience on it. But I still want to determine what it is I'm now required to wear. If I wear something that under normal visibility conditions at dusk and dawn is visible from a 100... is it a 100 feet... from a 100 feet away. On a foggy day when that's not visible from a 100 feet away, am I legal jogging or not?"
"If you determine that it's too foggy, I would think your conscience would also be your guide, and we're just trying to protect you. Would you like to be a Cosponsor of this?"
"Well, I want to find out first, if I wear something that's normally visible from a 100 feet away, but on this specific day is not visible because it is a foggy day, am I legal or illegal?"
"You have a chance probably of being stopped by a police officer and told because it's too foggy you're not legal. But I would suggest that maybe the police officer would have a better chance not to hit you if you weren't out there in the first place."
"I wonder if you would take this back to Second Reading for purposes of clarifying Amendment particularly regarding that issue."
"I don't think so."
"Well, don't you think that what you're really doing here is a Bill that's against public health because it's going to limit jogging on foggy days?"
"Well, I don't know. I didn't talk to the Medical Society. Could you give us your signals from them? Are they for this or against this?"
"Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the Bill in response to the Gentleman's question."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Lake, 19 14th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 Mr. Churchill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield for some questions?"
"Indicates he will."
"Representative Leverenz, there appears to be a conflict in the Bill between Subsection II and Subsection III. In the first part it talks about jogging in a municipality, and then in the other part it says that you have to get permission to jog on a state highway. What happens if the state highway were running through the municipality and it was a 40 mph highway within a municipality, would you have to get permission or not?"
"That's correct. If it is a state highway, they have to get written permission if it's a group. The same thing that they do now. We asked them what their rules and regulations were for using a state highway in a group situation and that's what we put in the Vehicle Code."
"So, in other words if a jogger came out of his subdivision in a municipality, ran out on a state highway and down it for a quarter of a block, at that point he needs permission to run into a jogging area."
"It could be an individual or group that they're using the state highway. They have to get written permission and that's what they are doing currently."
"In this Bill, it seems to indicate that a person may run on a highway. What happens if there's a sidewalk running along the highway? Can they run on either the highway or the sidewalk?"
"Yes."
"So, in other words even though it may be safer for the jogger or for people driving along the highway to have that person on the sidewalk there's no requirement that the person ride... or jog on the sidewalk. They have the 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day option of choosing."
"As the Vehicle Code stands now, the possibility is that a police officer could issue a person a ticket because they're a pedestrian. In fact, they're a jogger and not a pedestrian and that has already been ruled on by the courts. Therefore, that's the cause to bring forward something that covers joggers only and I believe Representative... the Representative that spoke prior to you would tell you that jogging on an asphalt street is in fact more healthy than jogging on a sidewalk."
"Do you have any estimate of how many people have been injured or killed in the past year in the State of Illinois for jogging on highways?"
"No, but it is less than killed on the toll road changing tires."
"Our analysis indicates there were 263 pedestrians killed and 9,759 injured on Illinois highways in 1983 according to the Illinois Department of Transportation. Isn't this Bill..."
"You mean the Department of Transportation specifically has kept track of joggers and the incidents of joggers or are you saying all incidents of accident?"
"I'm just reading what the analysis says and it says pedestrians killed. So, I don't think it's..."
"Those are pedestrians. These are joggers. That's a different category and they do not, in fact, keep track of them."
"They do not keep track of the joggers so you wouldn't be able to break that out."
"That's right."
"Okay, but I think you would agree that by permitting them to run on the highway where there is a sidewalk there is some increase in the possibility that there will be a... 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 dangerous accidents and possibly some of the joggers may be killed or injured."
"That's exactly why we're laying out in the law that they do it during daylight hours, and that they do wear brightly colored clothing and that they do jog toward traffic, so that if they're doing something wrong, they can be sited for it."
"One last question, Representative Leverenz. Does the word jogger also include streakers?"
"That depends. In the case of a trench coat."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Vitek."
"Will the Sponsor answer one question for me?"
"Indicates he will."
"Ted, you're talking about jogging. I see guys standing on the highway looking for a lift. Now, that's against the law. Is that right? Trying to get a lift on a state highway."
"Yes, they got a thumb up."
"It's against the law."
"They got a thumb up. They're not moving. So, therefore, they're not joggers."
"Alright. Now, my question is, would your Bill... it repeals the regulating pedestrians walking on the highways. How does it affect the guy that's got his thumb out there looking for a lift? Am I allowed now to pick him up? Or will I be breaking the law by picking him up?"
"You'd probably still be breaking the law by picking him or her up."
"Well, then I have to oppose this Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook... from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, a question of the Sponsor."
"Proceed, Mr. Giorgi." 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day
"Mr. Sponsor, March 13, 1985 is there a relief mechanism here in case the Department of Transportation denies your request?"
"No."
"You mean there's no appeal from this Section? Where do you paste the letter, on your forehead?"
"You know, if you had your way, they'd probably all have license plates."
"I think it'd be better if you tattooed them on their forehead... the permission."
"Good idea."
"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn." Dunn, J: "Question of the Sponsor."
"Indicates he'll yield for a question." Dunn, J.: "There was some discussion about sidewalks. This legislation doesn't have anything to do with jogging or not jogging or what kind of apparell to wear for those who jog on sidewalks, does it?"
"Only when you're in the street." Dunn, J.: "Well, very few sidewalks are in the street so I guess... This Bill doesn't apply to sidewalks then, I guess, is that right?"
"That is correct."
"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Flinn."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the previous question."
"The Gentleman from St. Clair has moved the previous question. All those in favor that the previous question be put signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the previous question will be put. Mr. Leverenz, to close."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd simply ask for your 'aye' vote after all of the discussion so that we set forth the requirements for joggers that jog 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day in the street Thank you." March 13, 1985 against traffic and we'll go with that.
"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 13 pass?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". Voting is now open. This is final action. Mr. Mays, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Obviously this is one of the most far-reaching Bills this Assembly has had the opportunity to address thus far. But also obviously, the Sponsor has indicated an in-depth knowledge and willingness to deal with the topic at hand, and I think we ought to support him despite its obvious flaws such as it does not get into regulating the speed of the joggers or the penalties for speeding as a jogger. But we ought to go ahead and back this Bill and send it on out and let those types of things be addressed by the appropriate deliberative Body across the hall."
"Yes. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, to explain his vote."
"Well, my counsel, Representative Cullerton, suggests I take it out of the record. I don't if the Bill number is wrong. That might be a problem. Representative Vitek just wants to vote red. It's a hitchhiking Bill, I guess, in his mind. Could the Chair tell me how many votes it takes to pass this beauty?"
"You need two more friends. I takes 47 votes."
"I need 47 just to put it on Postponed?"
"Right."
"Well, let it run."
"Have all... Well, excuse me. The Gentleman from Kendall, Mr. Hastert, one minute to explain your vote."
"Just an explanation on my vote and asking a question. 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 Is this the Sponsor's first Bill perhaps?"
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill there are 52 voting 'aye', 48 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present'. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz, requests the Bill be put on the Order of Consideration Postponed and it will be so ordered. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading appears House Bill 87. Mr. Bowman? Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading appears House Bill 195. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 195, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to create the State Universities Civil Service System. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from Champaign, Miss Satterthwaite. Yes, Mr. Clerk, change the number, would you?"
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is a Bill that was passed overwhelmingly by the House last year, but the Senate decided not to move things that they felt were not emergency measures, and so I've reintroduced the legislation. What this does is provide for a mechanism for people who come under the jurisdiction of the State Universities Civil Service System to apply for family responsibility leaves for a maximum of one year. We passed a similar piece of legislation during the 83rd General Assembly under Representative Zwick's sponsorship that applied to state employees in the state agencies and this would simply put parallel language in the statutes for the university employees. I would be happy to respond to questions and otherwise ask for the passage of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from... The Lady from Champaign has moved for the passage of House Bill 195. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Hallock." 25 14th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Indicates that she will."
"With universities all under different systems, does this apply to all university professors in the State of Illinois?"
"This applies to the State Universities Civil Service System and I believe that the nonacademic employees for each of those systems come under this."
"So, all employees at all the institutions - Northern, U of I and so on - would all be covered by this Bill."
"Yes, that's my understanding."
"Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Indicates that she will."
"Representative Satterthwaite, my question regards the issue of seniority. The Bill indicates that seniority, quote, 'shall not be reduced'. Does that mean that the seniority would be told or does it mean that the seniority would continue to accrue?"
"I really don't know the answer to that question. I would assume that that is something that could be clarified in the rules and regulations that the merit board would issue under the law."
"What is your intent?"
"It is not a question that I have even considered before. I would think that we would need to use whatever example is being used for state employees in the state agencies as a guide since the language is the same otherwise."
"Well, do you know whether or not..."
"I do not know. Perhaps Representative Zwick may 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 know the answer to that question. But I would presume that it would go into effect the same way that the state agencies have applied it."
"Okay. Fine. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp."
"Mr. Speaker, would the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates that she will yield for a question."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question relative to the hypothetical question, assuming an instructor is teaching a particular class that may be dropped during that period of time that that person is taking leave, this Bill indicates that the person shall be rehired in the same position. What kind of a posture are we in if that particular course is eliminated from the institution?"
"I believe that this does not apply to the academic positions. These are for nonacademic positions."
"Oh, in other words like..."
"It is not the teaching staff. They are not covered by this Section of the statutes."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Jersey, Mr. Ryder."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates that she will."
"Thank you. Who is it that decides the family responsibility definition? I notice in the Bill it gives certain examples. Were they meant to be inclusive or are there other circumstances that would comply?"
"Well, certainly in regard to the rules and regulations that the merit board is required to issue, if there is a need for further definition, that could be established by that route. I think, however, that it is fairly clear in the language of the Bill where it indicates that it is to be something relative to a situation where 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 the employee would find it impossible to have uninterrupted employment with the institution if they were not to take this leave. So, it's not something that is to be done to say take a two day leave at some particular time, but it's rather where there is an ongoing family responsibility that would preclude that employee from performing regular duties for the period of time that they're requesting to leave. And one of the things that it will do, I believe, is to eliminate absenteeism of the sort where a family member may need attention a particular day and someone would be absent because they could not fulfill their employment duties that day. This would give an opportunity on a longer term basis for them to decide to take the leave."
"Am I to understand that there is a minimum? I believe the maximum states up to one year. Is there a minimum that it shall not be less than?"
"No, the language does not include a minimum. I would assume, however, that an employee would not even take this route unless it were to be a fairly long leave of absence that was needed."
"But the statute... or as you propose it, the statute doesn't indicate that."
"That's right."
"Does the statute as proposed indicate who is to make any decision concerning whether the person's reason complies with the intent?"
"I'm sorry. I didn't hear the question."
"Does your Bill provide any means by which a test is made concerning the reason or is it simply the employee files for this, says that I have a family responsibility and, therefore, I wish to have a leave for the next two weeks?"
"The final language in the Bill indicates that the merit board will promulgate rules to implement the 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 legislation. And so I would assume in that process they would establish a method of reviewing the request and determining whether or not that was a valid request."
"And it... You... It is your understanding that the board would be the people that would make the review or is that the supervisor of the individual employee?"
"The board would issue the rules and regulations under which that review would occur."
"So, it could be the individual supervisor?"
"I would assume that if the board puts that into its rules and regulations that it could be the supervisor, yes."
"I have a little problem with another portion of the Bill to which I'd like to ask some questions, indicating that even up to a year later this individual could come back and obtain the same job. Is that the intent of the Bill?"
"Mr. Speaker, I don't know what kinds of games we're playing today, but I suggest that we take the Bill out of the record."
"Thank you."
"Alright, the Bill will be out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading appears House Bill 485. Out of the record. Your attention is directed now to page four of the Calendar, on the Order of Speaker's Table, appears House Resolution 87. Mr. Clerk."
"House Resolution 87 concerns the House Revenue Committee regarding tax collection procedures of this state. Rules Committee recommends 'be adopted'.
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Madigan. Mr. Madigan on House Resolution 87. Mr. Cullerton, will you take that? The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 of the House. I move for the adoption of House Resolution #87, which asks the House Revenue Committee to examine questions relating to the Amnesty Program, consult with the Department of Revenue and report its findings and recommendations to this Body by June 30, 1985."
"The Gentleman from Cook has moved for the adoption of House Resolution 87. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, Shall this Resolution be adopted?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Harris, would you... Mr. Harris, are you on this? Alright. Mr. Kirkland, over there, would you do the honors for him? Alright. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And the House does adopted House Resolution 87. Returning to the Order of House Bills Second Reading, on page two of the Calendar, appears House Bill 332. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 332, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Criminal Code of 1961. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Amendments filed?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Koehler and McCracken."
"The Lady from Henry, Miss Koehler."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 332 was introduced to clear up an unintended omission in the law regarding periodic imprisonment or work release. The law did not provide 30 14th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 penalties or an expedient method whereby a sheriff could quickly apprehend an individual who did not report for their work release. The Bill had a thorough review in Judiciary II Committee and passed out 12 to nothing with the understanding that a technical Amendment would be presented on the floor. This is the technical Amendment, Amendment #2. and it has been agreed to by both the Chairman of the Committee and Minority Spokesman. And I would ask the adoption of Amendment #2."
"The Lady from Marshall has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 332. And on that is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates she'll yield for a question."
"What technicality does it clear up?"
"The Amendment itself clears up an original problem in the Bill... in the statutes as it was passed two years ago. It takes the language out, 'or charged with the commission of a felony', on line 16 and 17 of page one. And it also takes out the same language on page two, 45 and 46."
"What is the language being taken out for?"
"It is being taken out at the request of Chairman Cullerton of the Committee. He thought it was unnecessary."
"What impact then would the Amendment have, for example, on the sheriff in Cook County?"
"Well, apparently a good one since Chairman Cullerton comes from Cook County."
"Are you sure about that?"
"Well, you would have to ask Mr. Cullerton whether or not he still resides in Cook County."
"Or was that just a flippant remark?" 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985
"Well, Mr. Cullerton would have to answer whether or not it was a flippant remark when he stated he was from Cook County."
"Does the Amendment differentiate then in terms of the individual crime the person committed that didn't show up?"
"Mr. Speaker, would you have the Gentleman repeat his question? I'm having difficulty hearing it."
"Mr. Leverenz, repeat the question."
"Does it differentiate on the crime that was committed that the person was convicted of that they are out, whether they go after them or not?"
"Pardon? Would you repeat that question, Mr. Leverenz?"
"Does it cause someone to differentiate in terms of pursuing that individual that did not show up? Does it differentiate because of the crime they committed?"
"Well, the original legislation, Mr. Leverenz, allowed the sheriff to go after that individual if they did not show up for... after they had been on furlow. But the law did not provide that that person who did not show up for the first time of periodic imprisonment, there was no mechanism whereby that individual could... could be charged with an offense for simply not showing up. And there were several instances in McLean County, I believe it numbered in the twenties, of individuals who did not show up for that first time and the sheriff did not have the ability to immediately go after that individual who did not show up. And it was unintended that this was submitted from the legislation and it now has been corrected by this Amendment."
"Sounds confusing to me. Thank you."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker." 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day
March 13, 1985 "Is that Cook, Mr. Cullerton? Is that correct?" "Yes, I was born and raised... I was born in Chicago, but I was raised in DuPage County. I left at an early age to try to find a Democrat somewhere."
"We have an insight on your voting record now, Mr. Cullerton. Proceed, Sir."
"Right. I just thought I'd try to clarify if there's any confusion with regard to the Amendment. The purpose of the Bill was to provide that if someone was sentenced to periodic imprisonment and they didn't show up for the first day that they were suppose to appear that we deem that the offense of escape. Of course, if they showed up the first day but didn't come back the second day, it would be an escape. So, that was the purpose of the Bill. In drafting the Amendment, the Section that... or first Amendment amended also dealt with people who are just charged with the commission of a felony; that is people who are awaiting trial. Clearly, people who are awaiting trial cannot be sentenced to periodic imprisonment and so all the Amendment does is take out that Section which applies to people who are awaiting trial and makes it clear it only applies to people who have been convicted and have been sentenced to the offense of periodic imprisonment. For that reason, I would support her Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Johnson. Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the House adopt Amendment #2 to House Bill 3322?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day 129. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
March 13, 1985 "House Bill 129, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to fire protection districts. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #12"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Amendments filed... Floor Amendments filed?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hannig."
"The Gentleman from Macoupin, Mr. Hannig."
"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, This Bill is simply a cleanup Bill which has been proposed. And the Amendment which I'm offering to it today simply clarifies and cleans up some of the language which was put in improperly. It does not change the Bill in anyway and I know of no opposition to it. And I would move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Macoupin has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 129. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, Shall the House adopt Amendment #2 to House Bill 129? All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution 115, offered by Representative Williamson; 116, Matijevich and Friedrich; 117, DeJaegher; 118, Ronan and Kirkland. House Joint Resolution 19, offered by Representative Kulas." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day
March 13, 1985 Gentleman "And on the Agreed Resolutions the from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, 116 by Matijevich commends. DeJaegher's 117 wishes another 80th birthday. Ronan's 118 congratulates, and Kulas's 119 (sic 19) praises and I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman from Winnebago has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolution."
"House Resolution 115, offered by Representative Williamson, with respect to the memory of Mr. Walter P. Bykowski."
"Representative Giorgi, the Gentleman from Winnebago, moves for the adoption of the Death Resolution. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Death Resolution is adopted. General Resolutions."
"House Joint Resolution #20, offered by Representative Hannig."
"Committee on Assignment. For what purpose does the Gentleman from Will, Mr. Van Duyne, seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I must make this announcement. A couple of weeks ago Helen... Representative Satterthwaite and Representative Woodyard came to me as Chairmen of the Counties and Township Committee and requested that we give a hearing to the county board chairmen of the different counties in the State of Illinois before our Committee. I have no real information as to what they want to say, but nevertheless, they did ask for a hearing before our Committee so we are giving them that special consideration tomorrow and we've 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day March 13, 1985 asked the Speaker for permission to use the House floor. So, the Committee has sent a letter to all 102 county board chairmen and invited them to appear before our Committee, and they are going to appear tomorrow. And I have no idea how many are going to accept the invitation, but they have all been invited and you are also as Representatives of those particular counties and... well, whatever county you come from, to be here to, you know, ingratiate yourself with them if you so desire. So, that's my announcement. You are invited immediately upon adjournment tomorrow afternoon on the House floor."
"Yes, for what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Kulas, seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The House Energy, Environment and Natural Resources Committee will not meet this afternoon. However, there will be a short meeting at 4:00 with the Director of the EPA, and I would urge all Members to attend, especially the new Members. Also, former Representative DiPrima wishes to remind us to keep next Wednesday, March 20, open so that you may be wined and dined by the Veterans of Foreign Wars. That's next Wednesday, March 20. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Nash, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of an announcement. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Committee on Registration and Regulation will not meet today. It will not meet today. Registration and Regulation. Thank you."
"The Committees on Energy and Environment and on Registration and Regulation will not meet today. But at 4:00 Members of the Committee on Energy will have an opportunity to meet with the Director of the EPA. Yes, the 36 14th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 Gentleman from Fulton, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Homer."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, purpose of an announcement concerning the House Judiciary Committee II meeting tomorrow and specifically the Criminal Procedures Subcommittee, which is scheduled to meet at 8:00 in Room C-1, will meet instead at 8:30 a.m. in Room C-1. That's the Criminal Procedures Subcommittee of Judiciary II will meet at 8:30 a. m. in Room C-1 at the Stratton Office Building. Thank you."
"The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike, for the Adjournment Resolution. Mr. McPike moves that the House do stand adjourned until the hour of 1:00 tomorrow, leaving the balance of the afternoon for the Clerk to receive filing of Bills, so that we will be in Perfunctory for the balance of the afternoon. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the House does stand adjourned until the hour of 1:00 tomorrow."
"Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House Bill 700, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to protect workers in the general public from injury or death doing construction or repair of bridges and highways in the State of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 701, offered by Representative Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Public Community College Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 702, offered by Representative Kirkland, a Bill for an Act concerning working cash funds and amending certain Acts herein named. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 703, offered by Representative Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the 37 14th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE March 13, 1985 Bill. House Bill 704, offered by Representative Mautino Dunn - Cullerton - McNamara - Johnson - et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 705, offered by Representative DeJaegher, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 706, offered by Representative Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 707, offered by Representative Kirkland, a Bill for an Act to amend the Open Meetings Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 708, offered by Representative Caparelli, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 709, offered by Representative Terzich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 710, offered by Representative Pangle, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Lottery Law. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 711, offered by Representative Preston, a Bill for an Act in relation to teachers and employees of public schools. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 712, offered by Representative Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 713, offered by Representative DeJaegher, a Bill for an Act in relation to uniformity of travel regulation for state officers and employees. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 714, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Township Law of 1874. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 715, offered by Representative Nash and DeLeo, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Pharmacy Practice Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 716, offered by Representative Bullock - Brookins 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 34th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day Giglio March 13, 1985 Breslin and Ronan, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the State Development Finance Authority. First Reading of the Bill. The Perfunctory Session stands at ease until call of the Chair. The House will be back in Perfunctory Session. Committee Reports. Representative John Dunn, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary I, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken March 13, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass' House Bill 131 and 378; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 204 and 220; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 35. Representative Terzich, Chairman of the Committee on Executive, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken March 13, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bill 68, 333 and 356. Representative Alexander, Chairman of the Committee on Elections, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken March 13, 1985, reported the same back with following recommendation: 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 338. Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House Bill 717, Giorgi et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 718, Bowman et al, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Juvenile Court Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 719, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 720, offered by Representative Madigan Daniels and Greiman, a Bill for an Act to create the Citizens' Assembly and Citizens' Advocacy Councils. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 721, Breslin Leverenz and Barnes, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Office of State Appellate Defender. First Reading of the Bill. No further 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 14th Legislative Day business, the House now stands adjourned." March 13, 1985 40 15:37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MARCH 13, 1985 PAGE 1 HB-0013 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-0013 OTHER PAGE 25 HB-0023 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-0129 SECOND READING PAGE 34 HB-0137 THIRD READING PAGE 11 HB-0146 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-0156 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-0195 THIRD READING PAGE 25 HB-0195 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 29 HB-0217 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-0223 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-0253 SECOND READING PAGE 8 HB-0284 SECOND READING PAGE 11 HB-0332 SECOND READING PAGE 30 HB-0649 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-0650 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-0651 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-0652 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0653 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0654 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0655 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0656 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0657 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0658 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0659 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0660 FIRST READING PAGE 3 HB-0661 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0662 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0663 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0664 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0665 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0666 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0667 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0668 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0669 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0670 FIRST READING PAGE 4 HB-0671 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0672 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0673 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0674 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0675 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0676 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0677 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0678 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0679 FIRST READING PAGE 5 HB-0680 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0681 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0682 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0683 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0684 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0685 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0686 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0687 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0688 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0689 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0690 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0691 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0692 FIRST READING PAGE 6 HB-0693 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-0694 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-0695 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-0696 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-0697 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-0698 FIRST READING PAGE 7 HB-0699 FIRST READING PAGE 7 :37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MARCH 13, 1985 PAGE 2 HB-0700 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-0701 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-0702 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-0703 FIRST READING PAGE 37 HB-0704 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0705 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0706 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0707 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0708 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0709 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0710 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0711 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0712 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0713 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0714 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0715 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0716 FIRST READING PAGE 38 HB-0717 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-0718 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-0719 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-0720 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HB-0721 FIRST READING PAGE 39 HR-0087 ADOPTED PAGE 29 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND PHILLIP ICENOGLE PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 BOLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 34 DEATH RESOLUTION PAGE 35 GENERAL RESOLUTION PAGE 35 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 37 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 37 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 39 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 39