"The hour of 12:00 having arrived, the House will now be in Session. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Leonard Harp. Pastor of Star General Baptist Church of Eldorado. Reverend Harp is the guest of Representative David Phelps. Will the guests in the gallery please stand and join us in the invocation?
Reverend Harp."
"Thank you. I might say that it is indeed my privilege to be here in this great place of law, and I appreciate the privilege to come and share with you a word of prayer. And we want you to know that we, all of God's children, are praying for you whether you know that or not, because we realize you have a great task in your hand and we do remember you daily in our prayers. Shall we pray together? Our Father, in Heaven, we thank You, dear God, for today. We thank You for the many blessings of life which You have bestowed upon us. God, we thank You for so many things, our country, our state, for these people who make the laws of the land. We ask, dear God, that You might sit by them and help them to make the decisions of the hour. We ask, dear God, that You would lead us and guide us and direct us throughout the remainder of this day. We ask that You might forgive us if we fail You in any way. We ask in the blessed name of Jesus Christ, our Saviour. Amen."
"Representative Ropp will lead us in the pledge to the flag."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Have all who wish to 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 be present in the quorum recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. 113 Members having responded to the call of the quorum, a quorum is present. Mr. Matijevich, are there any absences excused on the Democratic side?"
"Yes, the Chairman of Judiciary I, Lee Preston, is excused from absence and I'm wondering how I'm going to get my Bill out of his Committee now that he's excused."
"Consumer Protection."
"I mean, Consumer Protection, rather. I've got a... two Bills there too."
"Alright. Mr... Mr. Piel, do you have anyone on the Republican side that's excused you say?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, we do. Do you want me to tell you who he is? It's Mr. Harris who is excused today."
"Mr. Harris. Will let the record so show."
"Thank you."
"Mr. Capparelli, would you come to the podium? Committee Reports."
"Representative Van Duyne, Chairman of the Committee on Counties and Townships, to which the following Bill was referred, action taken April 24, 1985, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass Consent Calendar House Bill 1937."
"On page eight of the Calendar, on the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 196. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 196, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments filed?"
"No Floor Amendments." 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day
Second "Third Reading. April 30, 1985 On the Order of House Bills Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 241. Mr. Ronan. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 306. Mr. DeJaegher. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." to amend the
Second Reading of Clerk O'Brien: "House Bill 306, a Bill for an Act Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. the Bill.
Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." "Are there any Floor... are any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
Speaker Greiman: filed?"
"Any Floor Amendments?" "No Floor Amendments." "Has the fiscal note that's been requested been "The fiscal note is filed."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 430. Mr. Matijevich. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 578. 578, Mr. Curran, Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 604. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 816. Mr. Levin. 816. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 943, Mr. LeFlore. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 949. Mr. Leverenz. 949. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 1163. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate Calendar, appears House Bill 1165. MT. Hallock. ΜΓ. Hallock. 1165. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short 3 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 Debate, appears House Bill 1314, Mr. Mautino. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1314, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Returning now to a Bill we just passed over. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 1163. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1163, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Farm Development Authority Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments?"
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 1318. Mr. Giglio. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1318, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments filed?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 1388. Ms. Deuchler, 1388. Out of the record. On page nine of the Calendar, on the Order of House Bills Second Reading, 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 appears House Bill #1, Mr. Cullerton. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill #1, a Bill for an Act in relation to passenger seat belts for school buses and the inspection thereof by school boards. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Cullerton, amends House Bill #1 by deleting..."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, Amendment #1 to House Bill 1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I believe this is really just a technical Amendment. The Bill was not designed to cover the smaller school buses. There was some questions as to whether or not the Bill did. I didn't think it really did the way it was first drafted; but, in an effort to make it even more clear, we've redrafted it so that it only covers the larger school buses. The smaller school buses already, by Federal Law, have to have seat belts, but we just felt that this would make the issue clear. So, that's the purpose of the Amendment. I'd appreciate the adoption."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill #1. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Churchill."
"Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"
"Indicates he'll yield for a question."
"Representative Cullerton, in the original Bill, the Bill was prospective rather than retrospective. In this Amendment, does it continue to be prospective?"
"Oh, yes. It only applies to new school buses. This Amendment only has to do with making it clear that we're 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day talking about the larger April 30, 1985 school buses rather than the smaller school buses. That's all it does."
"No further questions."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 1 be adopted?' All in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted, and I'm advised that all of the requested fiscal notes and Mandate Notes have been filed. Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, on page ten of the Calendar, appears House Bill 94. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 175, Mr. Bullock. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 202. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 356, Mr. Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill..."
"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Brunsvold, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, a fiscal note has been requested on this Bill. Is that appropriate? This Bill only sets up the authority to a nine member board and shouldn't be any cost involved as far as the state's concern."
"Pursuant to the statute, the fiscal note can be asked for on any Bill, Sir."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."
"I presume you don't want the Bill called at this time."
"Right now, there is another Amendment that's been filed on the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I don't think it's been distributed."
"So, we'll just leave it where it is. Mr. 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 94th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 Giglio, would you... Mr. Giglio, would you come to the podium? Representative Giglio, in the Chair,"
"On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 357. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill, please."
"House Bill 357, a Bill for an Act to add Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any further Amendments?"
"No Motions relating to Committee Amendment #1. No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 360. Representative Homer. Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 367, Representative Levin. Representative Levin. House Bill 367. Out of the record. House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 384, Representative Preston. Out of the record. House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 405, Representative Tate. Out of the record. House Bill Second Reading appears House Bill 406, Representative McCracken. Representative McCracken, on House Bill 406,"
"House Bill 406, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 were adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"A Motion to table Committee Amendment #2 to House Bill 406, offered by Representative McCracken,"
"Representative McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to table Amendment #2 for technical reasons. It was made out of order by the adoption of Amendments 3 and 4."
"Does the Representative have leave? Hearing 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day none, leave is granted. Amendment #1 is tabled. 2 is tabled. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative McCracken, amends House Bill 406 as amended by inserting immediately after Section 2 the following and so forth."
"This is the messiest Bill of the Session to date. Amendment #5 was originally offered to correct the technical problems of Amendment #2. Since that time, I found out from my able counterparts on the other side that the purpose of House Bill 406 cannot be affected. Chicago Title and Trust will not ensure transactions of this type where nondedicated land is the subject of the transaction. So, I move to withdraw Amendment #5 and 6."
"The Gentleman asks leave to table Amendments 5 and 6. Any discussion? Leave to withdraw? The Amendment is withdrawn. Leave is granted. Further Amendments?"
"Amendment #6, withdrawn. Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative McCracken and Steczo, amends House Bill 406 as amended by deleting the title inserting lieu thereof the following and so forth."
"Representative McCracken, on Amendment #7."
"Representative Steczo, in Committee, offered an Amendment which was adopted, which is the subject matter of Floor Amendment #7. Since we are deleting everything after the enacting clause, I did not want to penalize Representative Steczo's Amendment. So the Bill now, if Amendment #7 is adopted, will delete everything after the enacting clause and insert in lieu thereof the essence of Representative Steczo's Amendment. I would defer to him for an explanation thereof."
"Representative Steczo, on Amendment #7,"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Representative McCracken is correct. The Cities and 8 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 Villages Committee adopted a number of Amendments to House Bill 406. We discovered, after the Bill was reported favorably to the House, that there were some problems that did occur. So the Amendment, which deletes everything after the enacting clause that Representative McCracken will offer, takes care of any problems that have arisen and will put the Bill in good shape."
"Representative McCracken."
"That's the most cogent explanation I've ever heard."
"Any further discussion? Question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 to House Bill 406 be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'yes', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 470, Representative Washington. Representative Washington in the chambers? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 470, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act concerning public utilities. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Representative McCracken, for what purpose do you rise?"
"An inquiry of the Chair. We skipped a few Bills. Were they passed or are we moving around on the Calendar?"
"They were taken out of the record. One is mine and I will do it when I'm off the..."
"Okay. Thank you."
"...podium and another one, the Sponsor has to have it helped. Excuse me. Representative Washington, on House Bill 470."
"No Committee Amendments."
"No Committee Amendments. Any Amendments from 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day the floor?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"No Floor Amendments. Third Reading. On page eleven of the Calendar appears House Bill 507 on Second Reading. Representative McGann. Representative McGann. Out of... Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 513. Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks in the chambers? Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 537. Representative Currie. Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 563. Representative Levin. Out of the record. House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 572. Representative Dunn. John Dunn. John Dunn in the chambers? Representative Dunn, on House Bill 575. 572. Fiscal note has not been filed. 572. We skipped over House Bill 537, Representative Currie. Is my mistake. Representative Currie, on House Bill 537."
"House Bill 537, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. Going back on House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 241, Representative Ronan."
"House Bill 241, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Infrastructure Revolving Loan Fund. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted previously."
"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Representative Piel, for what purpose do you rise?"
"A question of the Chair, Mr. Speaker. A minute ago we were told that we weren't going to be jumping around on the Calendar. Now, you've hit House Bill 241. I'm trying to figure out where that is on the Calendar. It's not on 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day Second Reading.
Piel: April 30, 1985 Is it on Second Reading, Short Debate?" "Second Reading... You're right. Second Reading, Short Debate. Representative Ronan was off the floor. He was called out in the hall, Representative Piel." "Okay. The only question I would ask is, if we do start jumping around, if you'll let us know what page on the Calendar we're on so we aren't, you know, aren't left in the dark like the mushrooms are."
"Fine. Appears... House Bill 241 appears on page eight, House Bills Second Reading, Short Debate. Representative Ronan."
"Amendment #1 was adopted previously."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I..."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Ronan, amends House Bill 241 as amended in the introductory clause and so forth."
"Representative Ronan."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #2 eliminates some of the objections that were brought to my attention by Representative Mays and Representative Mantino concerning this legislation. It clarifies the criteria for the granting of grants. I move for the adoption of Amendment 2."
"The Gentleman moves for adoption #2 to House Bill 241. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed. The 'ayes' have it. The amendment is adopted. A fiscal note has been filed. Any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Piel, do you seek 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day recognition?"
"Just a question. That fiscal note April 30, 1985 that was filed, was that as amended or was that one on the straight Bill?"
"Fiscal note is on its way, Representative Piel, to see whether or not it applies to Amendment #2,"
"No, I just... I just ask which way the fiscal note covered. I... Just a question of the Chair."
"Representative Ronan is checking. He says it doesn't apply to the Amendment, so evidently it's..."
"So was that as the original Bill and not as amended, then?"
"Yes."
"Thank you."
"Thank you. Third Reading. House Bill Second Reading, on page eleven of your Calendar, appears House Bill 575. Representative John Dunn, on House Bill 575. Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 582. Representative Woodyard. Out of the record. On House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 597. Fiscal note has been requested. Has one been filed? Fiscal note has been filed. Representative Bowman, on 597. Out of the record. On House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 599. Representative White. Fiscal note has been filed also, Mr. Clerk. Out of the record. House Bill 623, Representative Wolf. Fiscal note has been requested. Is there one filed, Mr. Clerk? Out of the record? The fiscal note has not been filed. Out of the record. On page twelve of the Calendar on Second Reading, appears House Bill 703. Has its fiscal note been filed, Mr. Clerk? Out of the record. House Bill 715. Out of the record. On the Order of Second Reading appears Representative Nash. Representative Nash. On Second Reading, page twelve of the Calendar, appears House Bill 722. Representative McGann, 12 A STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 on 722. Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 724. Representative Bullock. Representative Bullock in the chambers? Out of the record. Second Reading appears House Bill 740. Representative Breslin, on House Bill 740. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 740, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Motions?"
"No Committee Amendments and no Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On Second Reading appears House Bill 733. Representative McPike. Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 800. Representative Laurino. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 800, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Representative Tate, for what purpose do you rise?"
"I believe there has been several Amendments filed if we could check."
"We'll take them in order, Representative Tate. The... Have the Amendments been printed?"
"The Amendments are not printed or distributed."
"Representative Laurino, what's your pleasure?"
"Well, Mr. Speaker, I move to table the Amendments if they're not printed."
"The Sponsor of House Bill 800 requests that the Amendments be tabled. We're go... Representative Piel."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would ask the Sponsor to re... you know, reconsider his 13 31st Legislative Day request. STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 I... you know, I don't have the slightest idea who the Sponsors are of the Amendments, how many there are or one thing or another, but the Amendments have been filed. I think this is a major piece of legislation. It's not something that should be just shoved through... through Second and Third Reading. Just willy-nilly we've got plenty of time. And I would ask the Sponsor to re... you know, reconsider his request to table those."
"Representative Laurino."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, this Bill has been heard... probably the same Amendments that I defeated last year and I'm.... I insist on my Motion."
"Representative Tate."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. This issue just passed out of Committee last week and is a very controversial issue, and I know that many Members in this chamber would like to have the opportunity to address this issue and make some modifications that have been suggested by many different constituencies. Has a broad range affect on this entire state, and I would ask the Sponsor of this to at least allow these Amendments to be entertained. It's been on Second Reading only two days. The Amendments were filed today. There are at least ten different Sponsors to those Amendments that are probably bipartisan in nature and giving due process to this chamber, each individual Sponsor has his own reasons. And I would ask that those Sponsors be given an opportunity to hear their Amendments on this Bill."
"Your point is well taken, Representative Tate. Further discussion? Representative Farley."
"No. I wanted to ask leave of the Body. I can wait for this Bill to be over."
"The question is on the Motion to table 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 Amendments 1 through 9 on... 2 through 9. 2 through 9 on House Bill 800. Is there any discussion? There being none, all those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed. Representative Tate requests a Roll Call. Representative Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Gentleman would be kind enough to consider the possibility of taking this Bill out of the record for a moment. Would he be kind enough to do that? No?"
"Representative Laurino."
"No."
"Well then, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to address the Gentleman's Motion on tabling. Now, Mr. Speaker, what we have here is a Bill that I think is very important to the citizens of Illinois. We have substantial concerns with the Gentleman's position in this Bill and with some of the concerns that have been raised by some of the Members on the House floor. We have a legitimate request from some of the Members who have inquired and asked that this Bill be held for a moment, Mr. Laurino. We have asked you in the interest of trying to work this out in a bipartisan fashion, to hold this Bill for a moment. Now if you don't feel free to do so, Mr. Laurino, to work out this Bill, then I'll guarantee you one thing that we'll withdraw the Republican support on this legislation when you ask for a reasonable request. Now it's your choice, Sir. How do you want it?"
"Representative Laurino."
"Lee, I didn't think you'd be that excited; but, if that's what you wish, fine. We'll acquiesce."
"Out of the record. On the Order of Second Reading on Page 13 of the Calendar, appears House Bill 838, Representative Phelps. Representative Phelps. Out of the 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day record. Bowman. On Second Reading Representative Madigan. House Bill 888. purpose do you rise?" April 30, 1985 appears House Bill 888, Out of the record. Representative Representative Farley, for what
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like to ask leave to suspend the posting rules for House Bill 746, House Bill 554 and House Bill 1080, for a hearing tomorrow in Labor and Commerce Committee at 2:00."
"Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call. House Bill 888, Representative Bowman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 888, a Bill for an Act concerning environmental barriers in public facilities and multi-story housing units. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Further Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 894 on Second Reading on page 13 of the Calendar, Representative Bowman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 894, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the installation of telecommunication devices. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Further Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 896. Representative Bowman. Read the 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 31st Legislative Day Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 896, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to rehabilitation of disabled persons. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 897. Representative Bowman. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 897, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to rehabilitation of disabled persons and an Act relating to employment offices and agencies. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 898. Representative Cullerton. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 898, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 340. Representative Ropp. Representative Ropp. Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 950. Representative Ropp. Out of the record. On Second Reading appears House Bill 998. Representative Ryder. Out of the record. On the Order of Second Reading appears House Bill 1012. Representative Currie. Representative Currie on House Bill 1012. Mr. 17 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1012, a Bill for an Act to provide for appointment of local historians. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Further Amendments?"
"Ploor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Currie, amends House Bill 1012 on page one, line 8, by inserting the following and so forth."
"Representative Currie, on Amendment #2 to House Bill 1012."
"Thank you, ΜΓ. Speaker and Members of the House. The Bill is a permissive one. The Amendment provides... it provides for appointment of local historians by various units of local government. This Amendment merely adds to the permissive character of the underlined Bill, the provision that in cities over a million. The local historians may be appointed by community area rather than one single historian for the city as a whole. I urge adoption of the Amendment and I' I'm happy to answer any questions."
"Representative Currie has moved for the adoption of #2 to House Bill 1012. Any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor signify by saying 'aye', 'nays'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1025. Representative Roppe. Out of the record, House Bills Second Reading ap appears House Bill 1050. Representative Brunsvold. Representative Brunsvold. Out of the record. House Bill 1051, Representative 18 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Brunsvold. Out of the record. appears House Bill 1064. April 30, 1985 House Bills Second Reading Representative Woodyard. On Representative Woodyard, on 1064. Out of the record. House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1113. Representative Ronan. Representative Ronan in the chamber? 1113. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1113, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Highway Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On House Bills Second Reading on page 14 of the Calendar, appears House Bill 1186. Representative Currie. 1186. Out of the record. Second Reading appears House Bill 1208. Representative Pangle. Representative Pangle, on 1208. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1208, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Highway Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None,"
"Third Reading. On House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1251. Representative Phelps. Representative Phelps in the chambers? Out of the record. Second Reading appears House Bill 1339. Representative Berrios. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1339, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On page 14 of the Calendar on Second Reading, appears House Bill 1340. Representative 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day Berrios. April 30, 1985 Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk,"
"House Bill 1340, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 1395. Representative Steczo. Representative Steczo in the chamber? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1395, a Bill for an Act in relation to the physical facilities of Illinois Park Districts. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On House Bills Second Reading on the Calendar, appears House Bill 1399, Representative Matijevich. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1399, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"None."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bill Second Reading, on page 12 of the Calendar, appears House Bill 724. Representative Bullock, do you wish to hear 724? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 724, a Bill for an Act in relation to contractual firefighting services. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there further Amendments?" 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 31st Legislative Day
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Bullock, amends House Bill 724 on page one by inserting after line 23 the following and so forth."
"Representative Bullock, on Amendment #2 to House Bullock: Bill 724." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. House Amendment #2 is technical - recommended by the staff as cleanup language specifying that the legislation requiring the Fire Marshal to establish rules and regulations for private fire entrepreneurs in no way preempts the home rule authority of municipality. I know of no opposition to the Amendment. I move its adoption."
"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 724. On the question, Representative McCracken."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"Gentleman indicates he will."
"Representative, this Amendment would require a three-fifth vote in order to pass because it preempts or affects home rule. Would you agree with that?"
"That's not my understanding, Representative."
"Is it your position that if the Amendment were adopted, the Bill to pass would not require a three-fifth vote? Is that correct?"
"That's my understanding, yes."
"Okay. Our analysis indicates that it would do so... Well, I'll save that for another time. In response to the Amendment, then. I agree that in large part it's cleanup and I don't pretend to address the merits, but I think everyone should know that if this Amendment goes on, there is a good argument that a 71 vote Majority is going to be necessary to pass it. Now, I don't know if the Sponsor wants that or cares about that, but it would be our 21 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 position if that's what it's going to take to pass this Bill if the Amendment is adopted. Thank you."
"Representative Bullock."
"I just ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"The Gentleman moves to adopt Amendment #2 to House Bill 724. Further discussion? No discussion. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', 'nays'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Calendar on page 22, Consent Calendar, Second Reading, Second Day."
"Consent Calendar, Second Reading, Second Day. House Bill 282, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to increase the powers of railroads, union depot and terminal companies. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 706, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 944, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 986, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1103, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1137, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1175, a Bill for an Act to amend the Beef Market Development Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1292, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Reform Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1335, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1356, a Bill for an Act to amend the Park District Code. Second Reading of the 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 Bill. House Bill 1358, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1393, a Bill for an Act to amend the Local Governmental and Governmental Employees Tort Immunity Act. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1394, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1410, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code and the Nursing Home Care Reform Act together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Third Reading. On page 14 of the Calendar appears House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate. Third Reading. House Bill 31, Representative McNamara. Out of the record. On House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 47. Representative Leverenz. Out of the record. Representative Leverenz, on House Bill 190. Out of the record. House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 294. Representative Steczo. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 294, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Emergency Services and Disaster Agency Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 294 is a Bill that addresses the problems of one township in the State of Illinois, that being Rich Township in suburban Cook County. Prior to this General Assembly's changing of the ESDA Act a few years ago, Rich Township had a... an accredited emergency services and disaster agency in that Township. When the new Act was passed, JCAR interpreted the rules to suggest that townships could no longer be included. What House Bill 294 seeks to do is to provide that in this one particular case, accreditation can 23 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 be received by Rich Township and provides for counties only in... counties... townships and counties over a million to receive accreditation; but, in addition to that, the county... the township rather, at the adoption date of the Act, would have 30 days to submit a plan to the state and would have to have the okay of the County Coordinator. At that point, the accreditation could be received. Again, it's a Bill that just affects this one township, which is the only township in the state that does have an emergency services and disaster agency. With the Amendments that were included, it limits the nature and scope of the Bill. The State Emergency Services and Disaster Agency is in favor. The County Emergency Services and Disaster Agency is in favor, and I would encourage an 'aye' vote on House Bill 294."
"Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is... Excuse me. Representative McCracken.
"Representative, what happened to HB 295? Is that still alive?"
"Gentleman will yield."
"Representative, House Bill 20... 295 has been placed on the Interim Study Calendar."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Any further discussion? No further discussion. Representative Hawkinson."
"Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Indicates he will."
"Representative, have the township officials of Illinois withdrawn their opposition to this Bill?"
"Representative McCracken, insofar as I know, there was no opposition by the township officials. Again, since this affects just one township now, in its present form in the State of Illinois, the Township Board of Trustees of that 24 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Township is in support and townships." it April 30, 1985 doesn't affect any other
"Thank you."
"No further discussion, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 294 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 108 voting 'aye', none voting 'nay', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Calendar on Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 301. Representative Bowman. Out of the record. On Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 302. Representative Bowman. Out of the record. House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 303. Representative Richmond. Out of the record. House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 304. Out of the record. Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 305. Representative DeJaegher. Out of the record. House Bill Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 307. Representative Bowman. Out of the record. House Bill Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 335. Representative Ewing. Representative Ewing, on House Bill 335."
"House Bill 335, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Ewing."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill is intended to clarify in the statute that local units of government, counties and cities can charge for police reports on accident cases. There was some concern that because of the Freedom of Information Act, they might be required to give these reports out - the state police 25 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 charge. The same charges are included. These are the charges that units of local government had been making in the past, and I would ask for a favorable vote."
"Is there any discussion? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 335, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"No discussion. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 335 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Laurino, the board is still open. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On House Bill 335, there are 109 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. ...the Calendar on Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 375. Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks in the chamber? Out of the record. House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 394. Representative Barnes. Out of the record. House Bill Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 573. Representative John Dunn. Representative John Dunn in the chamber? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, House Bill 573."
"House Bill 573, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative John Dunn."
"I believe this Bill provides that when the driving conditions are difficult enough that you have to turn on your windshield wipers then you should turn your headlights on as well. It's... it's noncontroversial Bill. I request a favorable Roll Call." 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985
"Any discussion? Representative Cullerton."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Sponsor indicates he will."
"Isn't this more governmental intervention into the lives of..."
"Representative Churchill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that Representative Dunn has chosen the wrong Bill to debate. He does have that Bill on the Calendar, but this Bill is a different one."
"Representative McCracken."
"This is 573, the 10 day return of vehicle Bill."
"Representative Dunn."
"What's the question?"
"Representative... Representative McCracken..."
"The Bill provides that the word 'vehicle' is impounded that the people doing the impounding shall, within 10 days after the impoundment, the lien holder or other person legally entitled to ownership of the vehicle shall be notified within 10 days, or if that person cannot be found, they shall be notified within two days after they're found. The law enforcement authorities do this now. This puts a time limit in the Bill. This Bill was suggested by the Illinois Credit Union League and is supported by all the credit unions across the State of Illinois. Who, as you know, are lenders to the little people and they cannot afford to lose there security. A car is towed in. They can't find it - don't learn about it. Storage and warehouse charges pile up. If we can put this Bill into law, then we will find a mechanism that will enable the credit unions to locate their vehicle, to come and get them, make arrangements for them and avoid storage charges and be helpful all the way around." 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985
"Further discussion? Hearing none, the question is... Excuse me. Representative Saltsman."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Sponsor indicates he will."
"Representative Dunn, does this also include abandoned cars picked up on the city in it's abandoned car pick up program?"
"Would you repeat the question, Representative Saltsman?"
"Yes, does this also affect the city when they're picking up abandoned cars?"
"I don't know. As I read the statute, it does not because it would have no impact; because, if the Law Enforcement Agency impounds vehicle and has it towed, then it is the duty of the law enforcement officer to notify the owner if the owner can be found. If there's an abandoned car and you can't find the owner, you can't make the notification and the statute makes that clear that if you can't find the owner, you can't notify him, if later you do find the owner, then you have two days to send the notice out."
"Thank you."
"No further discussion. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 573 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted sho wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'nay', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 15 the Calendar... on the Calendar, House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 576. Representative Van Duyne. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985
"House Bill 576, a Bill for an Act relating to multi-township districts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Van Duyne."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 576 was brought to us by the Township Officials Association, and it simply provides that if a township belongs to a multi-township district voluntarily created, it may disconnect once that township reaches a thousand population or over with one exception and that exception is that there cannot be one township left in the district. In other words, if there's three or four, they can disconnect, but if there is only one left, they cannot. It requires a 10% voter petition and an affirmative vote is... voters after that petition... affirmative vote of the Township Board of Trustees. It passed out of the Committee by a vote of 14 to nothing. And I ask for your affirmative vote."
"Is there any discussion? Question is, 'Shall House Bill 576 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed voting 'no'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On House Bill 576, there are 109 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 577. Representative Van Duyne. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 577, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Van Duyne."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 577 is another Bill brought to us by the Township Association also, and it authorizes the township to purchase real estate and personal property on a contract basis. The contracts are 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 not to exceed 20 years for real estate and 10 years for personal property. I think it's obvious why they need this. Sometime they have to buy things that they don't have enough money for in one year, so they have to go on a contractual basis. The interest to be standard as provided by state law. We also had a unanimous in Committee, 14 to nothing. And I ask for your affirmative vote on this Bill also."
"Any discussion? Representative Dwight Friedrich from Marion."
"I'd like to ask the Sponsor a question."
"The Gentleman indicates he will."
"Well, this would, in fact, allow a township government, the supervisor and the Township Board to obligate the taxpayers of that township for as long as 20 years for... and no limit."
"Just for real estate, Dwight."
"Well, Alright. But I..."
"They wanted to buy a township office..."
"But there is no referendum required, and a township board can put that township in debt for 20 years without a referendum. And they obligate their successors, and the same thing would be true. So it's conceivable that a township board could bankrupt the succeeding administrations without any input from the public or anything else. Is that... Is that what... Am I reading it right?"
"You know, that's an odd question, really. I suppose, technically, they could, but I would also suppose that in the next election they would all be tossed out on their ear. I'm a person that came from local government and anyone who knows local governmental officials knows that they're probably the most frugal people in the world, but 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 31st Legislative Day technically speaking as you say, they could go out and buy a very expensive building and encumber the township for 20 years. But you want to remember that the people who are going to sale in this and the people who are going to lend them money are going to have to have something to say about this also."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, I..."
"And by the way..."
"I have to oppose the Bill because I think that this gives too much authority to a board to obligate succeeding boards and so on and I know what he's trying to do, but I think that at least ought to go to referendum if they do it."
"Any further discussion? Representative O'Connell."
"Question of the Sponsor. It seems to me from your discussion with the previous speaker that this does not include personal property."
"Yes, it does, but not his question. The question he asked... dealt with only real estate."
"But it does include purchase of personal..."
"They do... they are allowed to buy personal property on a contract under the existing state law that governs the interest, but that only goes for 10 years."
"10 years. But it does include personal property?"
"This... this mainly has to do with highway equipment, big earth movers, and trucks and things like that."
"Any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 577 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 107 voting 'yes', 3 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 611. Representative Hannig. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 611, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fish Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Hannig."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. There is a small industry in this state which earns income by providing a for fee fishing holiday. So what we're... what we're trying to do, by this Bill, is go back to a system which was in place in this state until about 1980, which says that when an individual pays a fee to enter and fish in these registered and regulated ponds, that they no longer have to own a fishing license. The rationale is that in many cases an individual from the city or urban area would like to take their grandson out, perhaps, fishing one day and this is a place where they could go and they would not now... they do now need a fishing license. And what is happening is this is putting a very difficult burden on those businesses. The Department of Conservation has looked at the Bill and has agreed with me that this is not a necessary requirement and it testified in favor of the Bill in Committee. I know of no opposition and I would ask for a 'yes' vote."
"On the question, Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Sponsor indicates he will."
"Representative Hannig, the only question that came to mind was whether or not the private lakes received any state benefits. In other words, is there any program where the state stocks private lakes. If so..." 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day
"No. No. April 30, 1985 These individuals all purchase their fish and stock them themselves. I think the Department of Conservation rules that if you accept free fish from them, you have to allow the public to fish there for free. So, these are individuals who buy their fish in Wisconsin or from the fish hatchery in Illinois or wherever and privately own their own lakes."
"And it requires that they be at a location where you have to pay to get in, right?"
"That's correct. And they are registered by the State of Illinois."
"Do they charge a service... a sales tax? Do you know?"
"I'm not certain. Whatever is customary."
"Alright. Thank you."
"Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 611 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 115 voting 'aye', none voting 'nay', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Third Reading, Short Debate, appears House Bill 626. Representative Ropp."
"House Bill 626, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Juvenile Court Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Representative Mautino, for what purpose do you rise?"
"Mr. Speaker, 621 is before 626, but I... It's necessary to put an Amendment on that Bill. And I would like to suspend the appropriate rule to take it back to Second for Amendment purposes." 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985
"Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, all those in favor signify by saying 'aye'. 'Aye', 'nays', the 'ayes' have it. The rule is suspended. Representative Mautino, for the purpose of Amendment."
"Thank you very..."
"House Bill 626, a Bill for an Act regulating the activities of loan brokers and providing penalties... House Bill 621, a Bill for an Act regulating the activities of loan brokers and providing penalties of violation thereof. Second Reading of... Return to Second, Amendment #2, Cullerton, amends House Bill 621 on page five and so forth."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Ask leave to withdraw Amendment #2."
"The Gentleman asks leave to withdraw Amendment #2. Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, amends House Bill 621, Cullerton."
"Representative Cullerton, on Amendment #3 to House Bill 621."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 adds 'knowingly' to the penalty Section of the Bill. It's agreed to by the Sponsor. I move for the adoption of Amendment #3."
"The Gentleman asks leave for adoption #3 to House Bill 621. Any discussion? No discussion, all those in favor signify by saying 'aye', 'nays'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, Mautino, amends House Bill 621 on page one and so forth."
"Representative Mautino, on Amendment #4." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. of the House, Amendment #4 April 30, 1985 Ladies and Gentlemen to House Bill 621 is a recommendation of the Department of Financial Institutions. This allows for the rules, regulation and licensure provisions under the same auspices as we have for loan brokers under banks, savings and loans, credit unions, et cetera, and it is needed for implementation legislation. I move for the adoption."
"On Amendment #4, Representative Piel."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield to a question, please?"
"Gentleman indicates he will."
"Am I correct that this Amendment gives subpoena power to the Director of Financial Institutions?"
"It gives no other powers than they currently had in all other areas of loan broker."
"Does it give the subpoena power to the Director of Financial Institutions?"
"Yes. I think that in all other areas it is maintained and this will be maintained as well."
"What other directors in the State of Illinois have subpoena powers?"
"I would assume that many directors have. This is current law in this state. The subpoena powers in Financial Institutions is necessary if, in fact, a financial institution is in a very difficult financial condition. So, therefore, we are maintaining this. You don't want to have another State of Ohio all over again, so those subpoena powers must be maintained by Financial Institutions."
"Do the other licenses through this state... through this Department, are they renewed each year?"
"I'm sorry I missed your question." 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day
"Mr. Speaker, could we have a little order?" April 30, 1985
"Representative Piel asks that we could have a little order. Your point is well taken, Representative."
"The other licensees under the Department of Financial Institutions, are they all up every year? Do they have to renew every year?"
"I don't believe so. No."
"This would be the only licensee that would have to be renewed on a yearly basis?"
"Yes, Sir."
"Why?"
"Mainly because this is a different situation whereby the loan brokers who are not regulated to go out into the public make agreements with, let's say, farmers that they will obtain loans for them for the front end fee and they take off with the money. Therefore, we like to maintain a competent schedule of where these individuals are."
"Under what criteria can the Director, you know, revoke a license or, you know, turn down a request for a license?"
"If the individual doesn't meet any of the current provisions in 621 or the existing statute at this time. I think you're speaking to the Bill rather than the Amendment, Representative."
"I'm looking right off the Amendment. I have no further questions."
"Thank you, Representative Piel. Representative McCracken."
"Just a Point of Order, Mr. Speaker. We're going to object moving this immediately to Third Reading for a vote today."
"Further discussion? No further discussion, Representative Mautino, to close on Amendment #4 to House Bill 621." 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985
"The provisions in Amendment #4 are the identical language currently in statute under rules, regulations and authorization by the Director of the Financial Institutions and do apply to this legislation. It's necessary for the implementation of this legislation and I ask for an affirmative vote."
"Question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 to House Bill 621 pass?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Ronan, for what purpose do you rise?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I want to waive the posting requirements for the Transportation Committee today. We got a couple of Bills that we'd like to get heard that were inadvertently not posted. I talked to the Leadership on both sides. House Bill 2399 and House Bill 819. Would like to waive the posting requirements."
"Representative Ronan, could you repeat those Bills again?"
"House Bill 2399 and House Bill 819."
"2399 and 819. Representative McAuliffe, on a question."
"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to get approval to have House Bill 1178 posted today in Human Services. I cleared it with both sides."
"Could you hold that Repre... We have to... we have to resolve the previous question. Representative Ronan asked that he have leave to suspend the posting rules for the following Bills: 2399 and 819. Does the Gentleman have leave by the Attendance Roll Call? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative McAuliffe." 37 31st Legislative Day McAuliffe: STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 "I'd like to ask leave to have House Bill 1178 posted in the Human Services Committee this afternoon, and I've cleared it with Republic and Democratic Spokesman on the Committee."
"The Gentleman asks leave to have House Bill 1178 posted to suspend the rules. Any discussion? No discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted by the Attendance Roll Call. Representative Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, I ask for the waiving of the posting rule for House Bills 1515 in Labor and House Bill 717 in Personnel and Pensions. They were inadvertently not posted, and suspension of the appropriate rules."
"The Gentleman asks... Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rules to post... Would you kindly repeat those numbers, Representative?"
"House Bill 1515 and House Bill 717."
"1515 and House Bill 1717. Does the Gentleman have leave?"
"717."
"717. Is that Pensions, Representative Giorgi? We have some noise up here at the podium. It's a little difficult for the..."
"What would you like for me to do?"
"Was that 717 for Pensions?"
"Yes, Sir. 717, Personnel and Pensions."
"Personnel and Pensions."
"It was posted once, but inadvertently not reposted."
"Does the Gentleman have leave by use of the Attendance Roll Call? Gentleman has leave. Representative Terzich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd like to have... waive the appropriate rules to add the following Bills posted for Executive Committee. For some 38 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 reason or another that we had quite a number and these were omitted. They're House Bill 476, 477, 478, 1589, 1755, 1884, 2511, 2523 and 2525."
"Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rules. Does the Gentleman have leave by the Attendance Roll Call? Hearing none, Representative Terzich."
"And also 1589, Mr. Speaker."
"1589."
"Yeah, also."
"Gentleman have leave? Hearing no discussion, Attendance Roll Call. Gentleman has leave. Leave is granted. Representative Hastert."
"Thank you, Mr. Chairman (sic Mr. Speaker). I ask leave to suspend the rules to have House Bill 2425 posted both at the appropriate time 8:25, meeting in Revenue tomorrow morning and the appropriate Subcommittee. I've checked with both sides of the aisle in Leadership and they're in agreement."
"Gentleman asks leave to have the appropriate rule suspended by the Attendance Roll Call. Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Mulcahey."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd ask leave of the House to waive the appropriate posting rule so that House Bill 1458, 2058, 2219, 1255 and 2275 could be heard tomorrow morning in Elementary and Secondary Education Committee."
"Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule by the Attendance Roll Call. Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Keane."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave to waive the posting requirements for House Bill 1161 in both the Revenue Full Committee and Revenue Subcommittee."
"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the 39 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 appropriate rule by the Attendance Roll Call. Does the Gentleman have leave? Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Ta... Turner."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to ask leave to suspend the rules to have House Bill 1052 heard in Consumer Protection this afternoon at 4:00."
"Have you discussed it with the Chairman on both sides?"
"Yes, we have."
"The Gentleman has. The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule to have these Bills heard."
"House Bill 1052."
"105..."
"2."
"2. 1052. The Gentleman has leave by the Attendance Roll Call. Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Due to a clerical error, House Bill 1682 was not posted for the World's Fair Committee hearing, Thursday morning at 8:00. I've discussed the issue with the Minority Spokesman. I ask leave of the House to post House Bill 1682 in the World's Fair Committee, Thursday morning at 8:00 a.m."
"The Lady asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule by the Attendance Roll Call. Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask to suspend the posting notice and rule to post House Bill 946 for the Appropriations I Committee on Thursday morning. It matches the companion appropriation for the Attorney General."
"The Gentleman asks leave to have the appropriate rule suspended by the Attendance Roll Call. Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. 40 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985 Representative McPike."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to sus... I move to suspend Rule 27 (d), Committee deadline rule, with regard to House Bills 1838, 1839, 1840, 1841 in the Judiciary II Committee and House Bill 620 in the Labor and Commerce Committee. This has been cleared with Representative Vinson."
"Gentleman asks leave by the Attendance Roll Call to have the appropriate rules suspended so these Bills may be heard. Any discussion? No discussion. Leave is granted. Representative McAuliffe."
"Mr. Speaker, I inadvertently gave you the wrong number before on that Bill. It should have been 1176 instead of 1178 when I asked to suspend the posting requirements. I would ask now if you could suspend the posting requirements on 1176."
"Gentleman have leave by the Attendance Roll Call to suspend the appropriate rule. Which Committee was that, Representative McAuliffe?"
"Human Services."
"Human Services. Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Weaver."
"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask leave for... to suspend posting and the appropriate rules on House Bill 2275 to the Elementary and Secondary Education Committee."
"Have you discussed this with the Committee Chairman, Representative?"
"No, I have not. I have discussed it with the staff."
"Would you discuss it with the Chairman of the Committee to change the Bill from one Committee to another?"
"This, as far as I know, has been assigned to Elementary and Secondary Education." 41 31st Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE April 30, 1985
"As a suggestion, Representative, why don't you discuss it with Representative Mulcahey and come right back?"
"Very well. Thank you."
"Representative Cullerton."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 779 was inadvertently not posted for the Judiciary II Committee meeting for Thursday morning, 8:00 a. m. I would ask leave for that... for us to waive the posting requirements so that we may hear and defeat House Bill 779 on Thursday morning."
"Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule by the Attendance Roll Call. Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Vinson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask that the House waive the posting rule so that House Bill 2431 can be heard in the Judiciary I Committee on Wednesday instead of Thursday when it's currently posted so that witnesses who will be available tomorrow can testify on the Bill. And I have cleared that with the Committee Chairman and the Spokesman."
"Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule by the Attendance Roll Call. Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. Representative Mulcahey."
"Mr. Speaker, I move to ask leave of the House to have the appropriate rule suspended so that House Bill may... 2275 may be posted for tomorrow, Elementary and Secondary."
"Gentleman asks leave by the Attendance Roll Call to have the appropriate rule suspended so this Bill can be heard tomorrow. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', 'nays'. The 'ayes' have it. Leave is granted. Representative Tuerk. Representative Tuerk."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would ask for 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 leave to amend the posting requirement for House Bill 2525. It inadvertently didn't get posted for Executive Committee. I would ask for leave for that."
"Gentleman asks leave to suspend the appropriate rule by the Attendance Roll Call. Any discussion? Hearing none, leave is granted. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution 290, Churchill - et al. 291, McPike. 292, Matijevich. 293, Washington. 294, O'Connell. 295, DeJaegher. 296, DeJaegher. 297, DeJaegher. 298, DeJaegher. 299, DeJaegher. 300, DeJaegher. 301, Matijevich. 302, Matijevich. 303, Levin. 304, Nash."
"Representative Giorgi, on the Agreed Resolutions."
"Mr. Speaker, 290, by Churchill, commends Ruth Payson. McPike's 291 congratulates Shane Riley. Matijevich's 292 recognizes Les Harmon. Washington's 293 lauds Julma Brown Crawford. O'Connell's 294 congratulates Dr. Molo. DeJaegher's 294 wishes a happy birthday. 296, ditto, by DeJaegher. 297 notes a 50th. 298, by DeJaegher, does another birthday. 299, by DeJaegher, is a birthday. 300, by DeJaegher, notes a 50th. 301, by Matijevich, congratulates Gary Munda. Matijevich lauds Catholic Charities. Levin... Levin - Bowman commends 'Studs' Terkle. 309, by Nash, congrats John and Marie Tolomeo. And I move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"All those in favor of the Agreed Resolutions signify by saying 'aye'... 'aye'... 'nays'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolutions are adopted. Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The House Cities and Villages Committee will meet at 2:00 and I would just like to urge all Members to try to be on time because we do have quite a 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 31st Legislative Day April 30, 1985 huge list of Bills to go through and chances are, today will be the only opportunity we will have to hear those. So, I would ask the Members of the Cities and Villages Committee to be prompt at 2:00."
"General Resolutions. Mr. Clerk."
"House Resolution 305, Tate et al."
"Committee on Assignments, Death Resolution."
"House Resolution 286, Shaw, in respect to the memory of Charles Thomas. House Resolution 287, Shaw, in respect to the memory of Mr. Overton. House Resolution 288, Shaw, in respect to the memory of Antoinette (sic Antoine) Jordan. House Resolution 289, sponsored by Representative Shaw, in respect to the memory of Marie McIntyre. And House Joint Resolution 38, Parke - Hensel, in respect to the memory of James Griffin."
"Representative Giorgi moves for the adoption of the Death Resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye'... question, Representative Tate."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I have a Motion on the table on House Resolution..."
"Representative Tate, we were on a Motion to accept the Death Resolutions. All those in favor on the Death Resolutions that were read, signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolutions are adopted. Representative Tate."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I had a Motion on a Resolution asking for immediate consideration. Are we going to be given the opportunity to hear my Resolution today?"
"Representative Tate, that Order is on the Calendar as filed under Motions and we haven't reached that point on today's Calendar. Representative Giorgi. Representative Giorgi for the Adjournment Resolution."
"Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn until 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DESATE April 30, 1985 31st Legislative Day noon tomorrow, Wednesday, May 1st."
"Representative Giorgi moves that we adjourn until 12:00 noon tomorrow. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The House is adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow." 45 08/02/85 10:55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 84TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 30, 1985 PAGE 1 HB-0001 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-0196 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-0241 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-0282 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-0294 THIRD READING PAGE 23 HB-0306 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-0335 THIRD READING PAGE 25 HB-0357 SECOND READING PAGE 7 HB-0406 SECOND READING PAGE 7 HB-0470 SECOND READING PAGE 3 HB-0537 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-0573 THIRD READING PAGE 26 HB-0576 THIRD READING PAGE 29 HB-0577 THIRD READING PAGE 29 HB-0611 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-0621 RECALLED PAGE 34 HB-0706 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-0724 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-0740 SECOND READING PAGE 13 HB-0800 SECOND READING PAGE 13 HB-0800 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 15 HB-0888 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-0894 SECOND READING PAGE 16 HB-0896 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-0897 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-0898 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-0944 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-0986 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1012 SECOND READING PAGE 18 HB-1103 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1113 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-1137 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1163 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-1175 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1208 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-1292 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1314 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-1318 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-1335 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1339 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-1340 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-1356 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1358 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-1393 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-1394 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-1395 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-1399 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-1410 SECOND READING PAGE 23 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PRAYER - REVEREND LEONARD HARP PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE COMMITTEE REPORTS REPRESENTATIVE GIGLIO IN CHAIR AGREED RESOLUTIONS GENERAL RESOLUTIONS DEATH RESOLUTIONS ADJOURNMENT PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 7 PAGE 43 PAGE 44 PAGE 44 PAGE 45