"The Hour of 9:00 having arrived, the House wil1 be in Session. The Members will be at their chair. The Chaplain for today wi11 be the Reverend Richard P. Wenneborg, Pastor. Chatham Christian Church. Reverend Wenneborg is a guest of Representative Karen Hasara. The guests in the gallery may wish to rise and join us for the Invocation."
"Shall we pray? Father we thank You so very much for the blessings You've given to US In this great land of ours. He thank You for the confidence You've shown to US In giving us the privilege and responsibility of making falr and just laws. And we pray today that You enable these men and women to be good stewards of the time they have and to faithfully fulfill the duties You have given to them, in Jesus name. Amen."
"The Gentleman from Lee, Mr. Olson, to lead us In the Pledge." 01son et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call For Attendance. Mr. Matijevich, are there any absences excused on the Democratic side?"
"None on this side, fir. Speaker."
"Mr. Plel, on the Republican side?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Will the record show Representative Tuerk is excused."
"Let the record so show. Hr. Clerk, take the record. 117 Members having answered to the Call of the Quorum, a quorum is present. Senate Bills First Reading."
"Senate Bill 41, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. House (sic 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS B5th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Senate) Bill 278, William Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 384, Rea, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 441, Homer, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 468, Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Animal Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. That was 467, a Bill for an Act to amend the Animal Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 488, DeLeo, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act In relation to the United States Olympic Committee. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 548, Slater, a Bill for an Act to amend the Flood Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 596, Mulcahey, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 641, Countryman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 780, Hasara, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 908, Slater, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to recorders. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 923, Wennlund, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1223, Frederick, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to income taxation. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 14... Senate Bill 1439, McGann, a Bill for an Act in relation to the borrowing of money by community college districts as a result of the enactment of the Tax Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1484, Slater, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substance Act. First Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Parcells in the Chair."
"Mr. Speaker. Today we have House Resolution 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 440 to honor the young people you see down in front here. These are our student interns who come from high schools all over the state to intern in various facets of government. They have worked for... in, as I say, In many different areas here, but among the Representatives that they worked for were Representative Hartke, Phelps, Curran, myself. Hasara. Hays, Parke and Tate. We've all been honored to have them work for us. They've been super young people. They learned a lot. They added a lot to our lives, and I hope we've added to theirs, and if the Clerk would like to read the Resolution. Do you want to read the Resolution? Alright. I move for the passage. All in favor say "aye", opposed "no". The "ayes have it. The Resolution is adopted."
"Thank you. And thank you. young people. We all appreciate your work and efforts on our behalf. Alright, Messages from the Senate."
"Message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker. I am directed to inform the House Representatives that the Senate has passed Bills of the following titles, and passage of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit; Senate Bills Nos. 711, 713, 714, 716, 717, 720, 724, 728, 736, 742, 745, 749, 756, 760, 762, 767, 771, 772, 776, 777, 782, 787, 790, 794, 796, 798, 801, 804, 814, 822, 827, 831, 833, 834, 841, 848, 854, 855, 856, 861, 865, 873, 875, 883, 884, 886, 896, 897, 898, 903, 905, 907, 909, 910, 914, 920, that's 820, 917, 924, 925, 926, 931, 935, 937, 938, 939, 940, 947, 952, 953, 957, 962, 968, 972, 977, 981, 982, 986, 988, 990, 994, 995, 999, 1000, 1001, 1003, 1013, 1020, 1022, 1032, 1041, 1043, 1047, 1050, 1057, 1056, 1074, 1076, 1080 and 1089, passed by the Senate May 21, 1987. Linda Hawker, Secretary." 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"On page 20. 20 of the Calendar, on the Order of House Bills Second Reading. Special Order Pensions, appears House Bill 331. Out of the record. On this Order appears House Bill 2224. Mr. Hallock, are you prepared... do you wish... out of the record. On this Order of Business appears House Bill 2710, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2710, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 61, offered by Representative Harris."
"Yes, Mr. Capparelli, thank you. We will take this out of the record in accordance with your request. Thank you. Yes, for what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook. Mr. Cullerton, seek recognition?"
"Yes, well, Mr. Speaker, while you are doing your Conference Committee on the podium, while we are waiting. I just thought I'd make a few more announcements with regard to baseball scores. I think the Cardinals are still in first place by percentage points. The Cubs are ... the Cubs are right there, right behind them, just waiting for their Cardinals to wilter in that July heat down there in St. Louis. And if they happen, if the Cardinals happen to win, though, it's the second best team in the division. I don't mind them in that city winning because there's, if you think about it, there's really not much else to do in that town, in St. Louis, except to cheer for the Cardinals, so whereas up in Chicago, we've got a lot of other diversions, so they are my second best... second favorite team and it's nice to see they're on top. You never know, when it gets real hot down there, and real sweltery, in July, they might be in... might be in big trouble in July." 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Nr. Flinn."
"Well, I appreciate the report Representative Cullerton gave Us on the baseball status. The St. Louis Post Dispatch didn't get into town today, I wasn't able to find out, but I did notice during the prayer that Representative Cullerton was saying a little prayer of his own. It went something like this. "Holy Mary, full of grace, wny are the Cubs still in second place?"
"The Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Curran."
"Μг. Speaker, 1 feel that the Gentleman from St. Clair missed his cue and I move the previous question."
Agreed Resolutions. Death Resolutions."
"House Resolution 443, offered by Anthony Young. with respect to the Memory of Levita Greer."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Young, moves for the adoption. All in favor say 'aye', opposed "no". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have It. The Death Resolution is adopted. On page 18 of the Calendar, on the Order of Vehicle Code House Bills Second Reading, appears House BI11 2526. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House BI11 2526, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Rea, Goforth and Phelps."
"The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, on Amendment 2."
"Mr. Chairman, I withdraw Amendment 2."
"Amendment 2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3. offered by Representatives 5 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Rea, Phelps and Goforth."
"The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, on Amendment #3."
"Hr. Speaker, Hembers of the House, what Amendment 3 does is restore the Bill plus It eliminates the area in... pertaining to the fine of $500.00 for any violation. It eliminates that Section. I would move for adoption."
"The Gentleman from Franklin moves for adoption of Amendment 3. On that is there any discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you. Мг. Speaker. Just so the floor knows, this Amendment essentially puts the 8111 back in its original form. It allows 80,000 pound trucks, so long as the operator of the truck has purchased a natural resource decal at a cost of $200.00 a year. This Amendment also nullifies an Amendment adopted yesterday, which would have reduced the motor fuel tax allotment to counties in which these trucks operate by the amount of damage the trucks Inflict on the roads. The Department of Transportation is opposed to the Bi11. This Amendment is... becomes the 8111, and I stand in opposition to adoption of the Amendment."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Parcells."
"Thank you. Hr. Speaker. I want to remind you all that yesterday you did pass an Amendment which I offered, overwhelmingly, which said that the... they would... those funds down there would be reduced for their road work, and It was said by the Sponsors of the Bill that actually they didn't tear up the roads, but we know that last year the southern Illinois Legislators ask for 5 million in a Rural Revival Bill, and two years ago they asked for funds for roads in southern Illinois because they had torn up their roads. They also sald that their roads down there were SO 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 bad their busses could hardly... they couldn't get their children to school because the bus... the roads were in such bad shape the school busses couldn't travel on them. The Sponsors talk about the state's truck weight being... this is bad for their business down there because the truck weights here are much lighter than they are in other states, but that is true. But what do we do? In Kentucky, their roads are a mess because of the truck weights. I gave you those statistics yesterday. that 53% of their bridges are a mess in Kentucky. So maybe we should carry 200,000 pounds and really tear the roads up. You adopted a very fine Amendment yesterday of mine, overwhelmingly, and this takes that Amendment out. This just allows them to tear up the roads and go ahead and ask for funds and who is to pay for that extra road money and the damage caused by these heavier trucks, the trucking industry or the taxpayers? A 'no' vote is proper on this Amendment."
"Further discussion? There being none, the Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. In fact, the Department of Transportation was opposed to Amendment 1. This takes that out, and they were also opposed to leaving the penalty in, and this takes that out, so this is along the lines of... of... that we felt in terms of the Department of Transportation, and I would ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted? Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion... all those in favor signify by voting "aye", those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Kirkland, one minute to explain your vote."
"Maybe the Sponsor can shake his head. How does IDOT feel about Amendment 3?" 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? On this question there are 43... 46 'ayes', 58 'nos', and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on Third Reading."
"House Bill 2526, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, on House Bill 2526."
"Take the Bill out of the record."
"Out of the record. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Joint Resolution 82, offered by Representative Hensel; 83, by Pullen; 84, Hasara; House Resolutions 431, Rea; 432, Tate; 433, Tate; 434, Terzich; 435, Barger; 436, Wyvetter Young; 438, Rea; 441, Hensel; 442, Barnes."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes'... and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."
"House Resolutions 439, Shaw."
"Committee on Assignment. Death Resolutions."
"House Resolution 437, Flinn, with respect to the memory of Al N. Young."
"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Flinn, moves for the adoption of the Death Resolution. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. Alright, Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going to try and complete the Second Readings of the Consent Calendar. There are a few 8 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Bills left on the Order of Second Reading that are on the Consent Calendar. Moreover, there are some Bills on the Order of Third Reading now on the Consent Calendar that will have to be brought back for Amendments. Reminding you that whatever Amendment might be put on, might certainly change It from being on the Consent Calendar, so that If you are Interested in the Bill remaining on the Consent Calendar, your Amendment should be not very ambitious. Now, if a Member has a Bill on the Order of Consent Calendar Third Reading and must bring the Bill back to the Order of Second Reading for an Amendment, please come down to the well and give the Clerk the number of your Bill so that we may call those Bills that are on the Order of Consent Calendar Third Reading that need to be returned to the Order of Second for an Amendment. We are now going to proceed on the Order of Consent Calendar Second Reading and that is the Bills that are in the printout now being distributed. Mr. Clerk, on the Order of Consent Calendar Second Reading appears House Bill 113, read the Bill."
"House Bill 113, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Live Entertainment Performance Crowd Safety Act. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative DeLeo."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. DeLeo, on Amendment 22."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #2 increases the penalty for scalping tickets and also raises the limit on the original Bill from 25,000 to 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 75,000. I ask for Its May 22, 1987 adoption. It's been... the Bills... It's been agreed by the Bill's Sponsor."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. DeLeo, moves for Homer: the adoption of Amendment 2 to House Bill 113. And on that the Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer." "Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He Indicates he will."
"Representative DeLeo, this Is the Bill that has to do with crowd control, and, correct?"
"That is correct."
"And to avoid what happened like at the Ohio "Who Concert and the Bruce Springsteen and the rest of them. and as I understand It, what the Bill does is say that no more than 20% of the tickets may be general admission."
"That is correct."
"But by Increasing the threshold to 75,000, you're also Increasing the number of people who will be allowed to have general admission substantially, aren't you?"
"Well, It's been a... it was amended in Committee from 10,000 to 25,000, to accommodate certain facilities in Cook County, "Ravina, Poplar Creek. This is designated at a large... for a large facility where general seats... numbered seats are not available. This is geared for Soldier's Field or a large..."
"Is that about... is that about the only one you can think of, Soldier's Field, that would hold 75,000. Alright, but 20% of 75,000 is a lot of people. Is it contemplated that this going to be manageable?"
"I'm sorry. Tom."
"20% general admission of 75,000 tickets is a lot of tickets."
"Well, it's 15,000."
"Alright. have you considered that by raising the 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 threshold you are also raising the number of people who will be allowed general admission?"
"Well, currently we have no provisions, so this is... we've had rock concerts in the past at Soldier's Field that's had 60 or 70,000 g.a. seats. This would restrict it to a special area."
"Alright, thank you."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp."
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Representative, does anyone ever get picked up for scalping tickets?"
"Quite frequently. They are arrested in front facilities in Chicago all the time. In front of the Chicago Stadium, in front of the Cubs park and in front the Sox park. They hawk tickets on the street." of of
"Okay, I just thought there was a Bill introduced that would just..."
"The question is, 'Shall...' yes, Mr. Johnson?"
"Part of Judge Steigman's package this year was a Bill that would have eliminated criminal penalties all together for what we call scalping tickets. I almost introduced the Bill, and I thought the University probably wouldn't like that, but I never figured out exactly why it should be a crime at all to sell something for more than you bought it for. You do that in futures. In stock and everything else in the world, why is this a crime? If you're smart enough to buy early or buy it at the appropriate time and to the right event, why shouldn't you be able to sell it for whatever the market will bring?"
"According to provision that we now have in the state, you may not sell or exchange any ticket with a respective license number. What happens is we have tickets that are 11 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 bona fide, and then there are bogus tickets. The tickets shall bear the stamp of every license. The tickets shall not be sold or resold by any place of entertainment without the printed face value. We have... you are able to sell tickets outside the facility, or outside the promoter, if you are a licensed ticket broker in the State of Illinois."
"No, my question was, if I happen to know or figure out nine months ahead of time that the Illinois-Indiana game is going to be a sell-out near the end of the season and I want to go out and risk the fact that both teams may be in last place by the last game of the season, nine months ahead of time and buy those tickets, why shouldn't I, if I've made the right guess, why shouldn't I be able to sell those for twice their face if somebody will pay for them? What is there... when I ask you what the law is, I'm asking what it is that prompts us as a policy making body to say that's criminal conduct?"
"Well, we lose the tax on it, for number one."
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Currently there is no licensing requirement for ticket agencies. Is that right, or ticket outlets?"
"No. There's licensed ticket brokers."
"Oh, there are. This is a completely new Act, Isn't it, that you're proposing, relative to the ticket regulation?"
"That's correct."
"Well, what is the current law regarding regulation of ticket outlets?"
"Tom, I'm unfamiliar with the current... I'm not familiar with the current."
"Well, what problem has come to your attention which 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE . 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 requires this type of regulation?"
"Well, like I mentioned earlier, we've had problems where these tickets are being bought. Somebody will wait in line and the public is not able to get the tickets. We've had people waiting in line buying 10 or more tickets and reselling them out in front of the facilities for three, four times the face value."
"Well, but that's not the ticket company or the ticket outlet that's doing that, that's a private individual, unrelated to the ticket outlet. Isn't that right?"
"That's correct."
"Well then, how would this effect that person? He'd still be allowed to buy 10 or 20 tickets and he would still be breaking the law if he were standing outside selling them for more than face value. What does regulating the ticket company itself have to do with scalping at a game, or something like that. I mean, how does that stop that?"
"Well, this will put a penalty on it."
"A penalty on the scalper?"
"Yes."
"Well, that's already in the law. Do you raise the penalty on a scalper?"
"It's... It will be a Class A Misdemeanor."
"Okay. I think that's the current law. Okay, to the Bill. I'm not sure what prompts the Sponsor to propose this regulation. It's already against the law to scalp tickets. It's a Class A Misdemeanor, and the reason it's against the law is not because... well, the reason it's against the law is because the person doesn't pay sales tax on the resale. SO I'm not sure what the purpose of proposing to register and regulate these ticket agencies when they have nothing to do with the scalping. Apparently the raising of the attendance, which relates to the 13 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 original Bill from 25 to 75, was agreed to by the Sponsor. I don't know If he's agreed to this regulation, but I just don't think It's necessary to regulate the ticket outlets when all we're trying to do is deal with the scalper."
"The question is, "Shall this Amendment be adopted? All those in favor signify by... I'm sorry... signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'... all those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 63 voting 'aye', 43 voting 'no', I voting 'present' and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 871. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 871. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative DeLeo."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. DeLeo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House of Representatives. Amendment #1, in the original Bill, the penalties were given to me by the Department of Veteran Affairs, which were quite extensive. We reduced the theft of a flag from a Class Felony to a Class 8. I was asked to do this in Committees, reducing the penalties."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment 82 (sic Amendment #1) to House Bill 871. On that is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, "Shall the Amendment be adopted?" In favor 'aye', opposed 'no', the Amendment is adopted. Further 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1047. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1047. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. Amendment #2 was adopted in Committee. 1 and 2."
"Are there any Motions?"
"Motion to table Amendment #2, offered by Representative Jones."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Jones, on Motion to table Amendment #2. Ms. Jones."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and House Members. I tabled Amendment #2, and there should be an Amendment 3."
"The Lady from Cook moves to table Amendment #2. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel."
"Question. Could she tell us who the Sponsor of Amendment #2 was and who... what the Amendment does?"
"The Sponsor of Amendment 2 was myself. In Committee there was Amendment 1 and 2, and there was a problem with both of them because they both... they didn't really understand them. Amendment #3 straightens that problem out, which makes it Chicago only."
"So Amendment #2, which removed the downstate school districts from the closed campus policy, will be add... you're taking... you're putting it back onto the Bill and then with Amendment #3 you're putting it back into the Bill. Is that correct?"
"No. Downstate is not going on it. Amendment #3 actually states that It's Chicago only and It's not a mandate closed campus, but a closed campus study, for Chicago schools only." 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Fine. Thank you very much. Thank you." for Hay 22, 1987
"The Lady moves the... moves to table Amendment 2. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Amendment 12 is tabled. Ar. Clerk, is there a Motion with respect to Amendment #1?"
"Motion to table Amendment #1, by As. Jones."
"The Lady from Cook moves to table Amendment #1, and on that is the Lady from Cook, Hs. Jones."
"The same problem with Amendment I was with 2. It was In Committee. It was very controversial as to what Amendment #1 and Amendment #2 did. Amendment 3 straightens out all sort of problem with Amendment #1."
"The Lady moves for the... moves to table Amendment #1, and on that, Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is. 'Shall Amandment #1 be tabled?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed "no". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Amendment al is tabled. Аг. Clerk, are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 33, offered by Hs. Jones."
"The Lady from Cook. Hs. Jones, on Amendment #3."
"Amendment #3 requires all school districts to establish, implement and enforce a closed campus policy study throughout the regular school day of each attendance center In the district, and this is Chicago only."
"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. All in favor signify by voting... by saying 'aye", those opposed 'no. In the opinion of the Chair the ayes have it. Amendment 03 Is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Hoffman." 16 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Hoffman, on Amendment #4. Amendment #4 withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1113. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1113, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to jurors. Second Reading of the Bill. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. No Committee Amendments. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Countryman."
"The Gentleman from DeKalb, Mr. Countryman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #1 would make this Bill apply to counties in which the population is three million or less. This is a good Bill, however Cook County would have a hard time accepting it right at this time, and therefore I have agreed to take Cook County out and let the rest of the counties go with it and that's all this Amendment would do."
"The question is, 'Shall Amendment 1 be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1228, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1228, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee." 17 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #17"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Wojcik."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Wojcik, on Amendment #2. Yes, Mr. McCracken."
"I'm a Cosponsor of that Amendment. I'd like to proceed."
"Alright. Proceed, Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you. This Amendment provides that any person who refuses to participate in the educational programs which this Bill sets up, will be denied or deemed Ineligible to receive public aid assistance. This will be a requirement in order to receive public aid assistance; I move its adoption."
"The Gentleman from DuPage moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 1228, and on that, Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Rice."
"I refuse that. It will change the direction of the Bill."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Young."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I to rise in opposition to Amendment #2. It would not only defeat the intent of the Bill, but it would take any discretion out of the hands of the Department of Public Aid. Right now they have the ability to remove people who don't follow the programs they are insisted upon. I think when you put this Amendment on the Bill, it changes the Sponsor's intent and it would be very difficult for the Sponsor to keep this Bill on the Consent Calendar if this 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Amendment were adopted. I move... " Hay 22, 1987
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. HcCracken to close. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'nos' have it and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?" Clerk O'Brien:$"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Ол this Order appears House Bill 1253. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 3111 1253, a sill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to legalize and validate appropriations and tax levies. This 8111 has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 01, offered by Representative Berrios and Steczo."
The Gentleman from Cook, Hr. Berrios... ΑΓ. Steczo, do you wish to take that?"
"No."
"Proceed. Mr. Steczo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for the adoption of Amendment #1. House Bill 1253 deals with the validation of tax levy and appropriation ordinances in forest preserve districts under 300,000, which includes DuPaye and Kane Counties. Amendment #l includes Cook. I would move for Its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo, moves the adoption of Amendment 1, and on that, Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Kirkland."
"Just ask the question of why Cook wasn't Included in the original Bill and why should they be included now?"
"Yes, Mr. Steczo."
"Representative Kirkland, the Bill which concerned Cook 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 County did not come out of Committee, and after the parties got together, they decided that it was probably best to have both considered in the same Bill rather than duplicate the effort twice, anyway."
"Okay. The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1392, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1392, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to county zoning. Second Reading. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Motions with respect to Amendment #1."
"No Motions filed."
"Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1463. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1463, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Environmental Protection Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1513. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1513, a Bill for an Act authorizing the conveyance of certain state property in the City of 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Jacksonville, Illinois. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendment?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1537. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1537, a Bill for an Act to amend Second Reading of Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1556. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1556, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Bill of Rights of Victims and Witnesses of Violent Crime Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1590. Read the Bill. Yes."
"House Bill 1590, a Bill for an Act in relation to Second Reading registration of underground storage tanks. of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order there appears House Bill 1632. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1632, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there Motions with respect to Amendment #1." 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Ronan."
"Well... Yes, Mr. Young, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"For leave to handle the Amendment for Representative Ronan."
"Alright. Leave Is granted. Mr. Young, on the Amendment."
"Amendment #2 makes technical changes only and was suggested by the Department of Transportation."
"The question is, 'Shall... shall this Amendment be adopted?' The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Would the Sponsor briefly describe again the Amendment?"
"Mr. Young."
"I'm looking in the Bill, Tom, to see exactly what language it deletes. The original Bill cited the wrong Section of the Statute and the Amendment cites the right Section."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those In favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have It. The Amendment Is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1735. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1735, a Bill for an Act to authorize funding for rail safety programs under the Illinois Commercial Transportation Law. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1744. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1744, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to domestic relations and domestic violence and domestic violence shelters. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Homer."
"The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer. on Amendment #1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to withdraw the Amendment."
"Amendment's withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1770. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1770. This Bill has been committed to Interim Study by the Sponsor."
"Mr. Clerk... Mr. Rea, for what purpose did you seek recognition?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I had filled out a form earlier to place this on Interim Study. I would ask for leave to place on Interim Study, House Bill 1770."
"Alright. Yes. We're advised that you... the Bill's already been removed and is on Interim Study. Thank you. On this Order appears House Bill 1828. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1828, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1896. Hr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1896, a B111 for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revise the law in relation to state treasurer. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 1925. Μг. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House B111 1925, a BI11 for an Act to amend Sections of the Housing Authority Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House B111 2105. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 811] 2105. a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the dill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2116. Μг. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2116, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unified Code of Corrections. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2142. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"House Bill 2142, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Public Utilities Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2206. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 9111 2206, à Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the B111. No Committee Amendments.
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Anthony Young."
"The Gentleman fro from Cook, Mr. Young, on Amendment #1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 is the Amendment that was agreed to by the Department of Human Rights that puts the Bill in acceptable form to the Department. What it does is it deletes the provision that a respondent must file his response within 120 days and it authorizes Default Judgment where the response was not filed within 220... within 21O days. In the original Bill it was 90 days. I move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment 21 to 2206, and on that the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he will."
"Originally, this Bill provided for 60 days within which to file the response to charges, and you're extending that by the Amendment to 210 days. Now, is that in which the... is that period the time in which the respondent must 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 file his response? Or is that 210 days within which the complaint may be brought after the Human Rights Commission decision?"
"No. That's the time within which to file his response."
"That sounds too good to be true. Why is that such... that sounds like such a long time."
"I agree."
"Oh, okay."
"It's too long, but the Department objected to the Bill when we had it a shorter period."
"Okay. I thought I misunderstood. Thank you."
"The question is, "Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those In favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2315. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2315, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Coal and Energy Development Bond Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2316. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2316, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to provide for the management, operation, control and maintenance of Southern Illinois University. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments." 26 STATE OF ILLINDIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
Hay 22, 1987 "Third Reading. On this Order appears House B111 2321. Mr. Clerk, read the ail1."
"House 8111 2321, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House 8111 2327. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2327, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Phelps."
"The Gentleman from Saline, Mr. Phelps, on Amendment #1."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to withdraw Amendment #1."
"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Black and Cullerton."
"The Gentleman from Vermillion, Mr. Black, on Amendment #2."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Withdraw Amendment #2, please."
"Amendment #2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative. Countryman."
"The Gentleman from Dekalb, Mr. Countryman, on Amendment #3."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Amendment #3 establishes 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the definition of all-terrain vehicles to eliminate confusion between all-terrain vehicles and other similar vehicles. It also clarifies the position with regard to another Bill which we previously passed. It also clarifies the position of tail lights on farm tractors and makes technical corrections. This Amendment addresses concerns raised by the Illinois Farm Bureau and John Deere Corporation and I move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 2327. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2373. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2373, a Bill for an Act in relation to agricultural licensing. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Are there... are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Committee Amendments."
"Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Wait."
"The Gentleman from Boone, Mr. Wait. Mr. Wait. Mr. Giorgi is not in the chamber and I don't know if you... what is your pleasure. Perhaps we could take this out of the record for a moment and come back to it. Alright. Let's take it out of the record. Mr. Giorgi, we had just called House Bill 2373. Mr. Walt has an Amendment to that Bill. You were not on the House floor. We're going to continue on... Alright. We'll call the Bill again. Mr. Clerk, read House Bill 2373. Mr. Clerk, read 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 2373." May 22, 1987
"House Bill 2373, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to county zoning. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2376. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2376, a B111 for an Act to amend Sections of the Welght and Heasurements Act. Second Reading of the Bi11. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House 8111 2377. Hг. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2377, a Bill for an Act In relation to agricultural license. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 31, offered by Representative Walt."
"The Gentleman from Boone. Mr. Halt."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 simply brings this into compliance with the Federal government and now all sides are in agreement."
"The Gentleman from Boone, Hr. Wait. moves for the adoption of Amendment 1 to House Bill 2377. There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no". The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House 8111 2540. Mr. Clerk, read the 3ill." 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"House Bill 2540, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. Second Reading of the dill. No Committee Amendments."
"The Gentleman from Cook... I'm sorry... are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Piel and Cullerton."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel, on Amendment #1. Mr. Cullerton, did you wish to take that? Did you wish to handle the Amendment, Mr.... Mr. Cullerton? Mr. Cullerton, on Amendment #1."
"Yes, thank you... thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill involved the banks in the State of Illinois and the retail merchants and there was an agreement between those two. This Amendment embodies that agreement. And all it does is to add one, really one phrase. 'a depository institution'. It deals with the issue of bad checks and the fees that can or cannot be charged. This basically allows the fees to be charged between two banks. Retail Merchants are in favor of it as well as the bankers. I appreciate your support."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, moves for the adoption of Amendment 1 to House Bill 2540 and is there any discussion? The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens."
"Thank you. Did you say the Retail Merchants agree to this Amendment?"
"Yes, to 1, they want it."
"Thank you."
"The question is. "Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments." 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2560. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2560, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representatives Wojcik and McCracken."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Wojcik, on Amendment #2."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Actually, what this Amendment will do it would reduce the fiscal impact of the Bill and assure that the money spent on the special Emergency Assistance Program is spent for the emergencies specifically decried for..."
"The Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 2560, and on that the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Parliamentary Inquiry. I believe that the Amendment may be out of order. The Amendment #2 states that new language shall be inserted immediately after the word 'pending'. I believe that the word 'pending' was struck by Committee Amendment #1."
"Yes, Mr. Cullerton."
"I would note that the... if there's any question as to which Amendment I'm talking about, this is the one prepared by the House Republican Staff."
"Thank you, Mr. Cullerton. Yes. The Amendment is out of order. Are there further Amendments? Ms. Wojcik? Are there further Amendments?" 31 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2591. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, let me remind you that if you have a bill on the Consent Calendar. Order of Third Reading, which requires Amendments, so that we can move along, you should be given this number to the Clerk by this time so that we may go to this Order Immediately upon concluding the Order of Consent Calendar Second Reading. And now, Mr. Clerk, 2591."
"House Bill 2591, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On this Order appears House Bill 2636. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 26... House Bill 2636, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Saltsman."
"The Gentleman From Peoria, Mr. Saltsman, on Amendment 2."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Withdraw Amendment 2, please."
"Amendment #2 withdrawn. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Saltsman, Giglio and McPike."
"The Gentleman from Peoria. Mr. Saltsman, on 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day Amendment 3."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. All that this Amendment does. It is the Bill. It's agreed legislation between the towing operators in the northern part of the state and the downstate towing operators and both staffs have looked at this legislation and It's all agreed legislation and I ask for its passage."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage... for the adoption of Amendment #3, and on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading."
"Representative Breslin in the Chair. On the Order of Second Reading Consent Calendar appears House Bill 2674, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2674, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to define the punishment of crimes contributing to the delinquency and neglect of children and to the delinquency of children. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 267... 2746, Representative Flinn. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2746, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revise the law in relation to counties. Second Reading of the bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 31, offered by Representative Hultgren." 33 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Speaker Breslin: "Representative Hultgren on Amendment #1."
"Withdraw the Amendment."
"Withdraw #1. Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment McCracken." May 22, 1987 Hultgren. Representative Are there any further #2, offered by Representative
"Representative McCracken."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #2 adds the provisions of various Bills extending the county lapse period and authorizes the stipend for county health board members. Both changes apply to collar counties and makes... makes the DuPage County Tourism Bureau eligible for state grants along with other tourism bureaus."
"The Gentleman has moved the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 2746, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Yes. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"I heard a magic word. What was the magic word?"
"Tourism?"
"No. It was DuPage. Is this a DuPage Amendment?"
"No."
"What does it do?"
"It's an Amendment for the people, John."
"How much money for DuPage?"
"No money. It allows that Tourism Bureau to participate in the OCCA grant program."
"So there's no money. It just allows them to participate. Maybe they'll give money to DCCA."
"I don't know that that will happen, but we would just participate as all other tourism bureaus participate, including the Chicago Bureau." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"And what does it do to the Bill? Does It keep the Bill or strip the Bill? It will be deleting everything after the enacting clause, as sort of unfriendly treatment of the original Sponsor's Bill. Unless you...
"I'm going to have to look at it to see if it in fact deletes it. It may...
"Has it prepared by the House Republican Staff?"
"Yes."
"Does it change the title?"
"Yes."
"Would it go back to First Legislative Day, If someone asks? Maybe there might be another time for this Bill to pass, more propitious."
"I guess you'll have to do that, then."
"Well, I... my... the only question I have now is, does... does... does it incorporate the Bill, the original Bill, somewhere in the Amendment, or does it strip it? Hang on a second."
"No, it doesn't. The first page of the Amendment restates the Bill."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Flinn."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A couple of weeks ago I got up and opposed one of the Democrats Amendments against a Republican Bill, and my statement was essentially this. In all the time I've spent in the Legislature, I have never Introduced a Bill which would strike the enacting clause or strike everything after the enacting clause and put on my own Bill. I think it's a cowardly way to attack a Bill. I think a Bill... a Sponsor ought to have a chance to have his Bill voted up or down. If a Sponsor has a Bill he can't get out of the Committee, or one he'd like to have 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day passed, then let him use some other method. the Senate and find a Bill their... his Amendment on. Bill of mine. May 22, 1987 Let him go to someone is willing to put But to do this is gutting a I've never done it to anybody else, and I hope you don't do it to me. I would like to see a 'no' vote on this Amendment. Kill the Amendment."
"Representative McCracken to close."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Bill does not gut the... or this Amendment does not gut the Bill. It restates on the first page of the Amendment, the Bill in its entirety. But if this will jeopardize the Gentleman's Bill, I will withdraw it."
"Withdraw #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 2825, Representative Countryman. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2825, a Bill for an Act in relation to deceptive practices against the state and debts owed to the state. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Countryman."
"Representative Countryman."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 changes the expiration date on the garnishment summons until the expiration of the employers payroll period ending immediately prior to the 180 days after service of summons. It deletes other language which could be confusing and that's all it does. It's a technical Amendment."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Amendment #l to House Bill 2825, and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is 'Shall the Amendment be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 2850, Representative Kirkland. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2850, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Human Rights Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going to the Order of House Calendar Sup. On the Order... the House Calendar, Supplemental No. 1. For those Bills on the Consent Calendar on Third Reading that need to be brought back for an Amendment. We're only dealing with those Bills that need to be brought back for Amendment. The first Bill is House Bill 429, Representative Rea. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 429, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the bill."
"Representative Rea asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Are there any Amendments filed?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Anthony Young."
"Representative Young."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 deletes Chicago from the Bill. I move 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day for its adoption."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 429. Is there anyone standing in opposition? The Gentleman from Rea... Representative... Representative Rea."
"Not in opposition, Madam Speaker, but just to say that the original intent was only to deal with the downstate firemen, so this, I would ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Representative Young. did you say the magic word? Are you removing Chicago from the application of this dil1?"
"This Amendment makes the Sponsor's intent clear."
"It's important that Chicago not be subject to state law, we all understand that."
"The question is, Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye", all those opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment Is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 361, Representative LeFlore. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 3111 361, a 8111 for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative LeFlore asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of making a Hotion. Are there any objections? Hearing none, Mr. Clerk, are there any Motions on file?"
"A Motion to table Amendment #3, by Representative LeFlore and Parke." 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Representative LeFlore."
"Thank you, Madam Chairman. Motion to table Amendment #3." May 22, 1987 Madam Chairman, I'd like to
"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #3. Does anyone stand in opposition? Hearing none. the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #3 is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 522, Representative Parke. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 522, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative... Representative Parke asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Are there any objections? Hearing none, Mr. Clerk, the Bill is on Second Reading. Are there any Amendments filed?"
"Amendment #1, offered by Representative McCracken."
"Representative McCracken."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #1 is in response to a request from the Judiciary Committee, which agreed to pass the Bill out, if I were to amend it as requested. Somehow this got on the Consent Calendar without that Amendment. This would amend the Bill so that in... in sex case prosecutions, where the witness is a minor under 18 years of age, in ruling on any Motion for Continuance, the Court shall consider and give weight to the adverse impact the delay may have on the well being of the child."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Amendment... May 22, 1987 adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 522. Does anyone stand in opposition? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye' those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 868, Representative Parke. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 868, a Bill for an Act in relation to park and forest preserve districts funds. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Parke asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the Bill is on Second. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Parke."
"Representative Parke."
"Thank you. Kadam Chairman. Amendment #3 complies with the staff pointing out that the Amendment #2 had the wrong line item. We have corrected that and now added the..."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 868, and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 1867, Representative Kulas. Clerk, read the Bill." 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"House Bill 1867, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to environmental protection. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Kulas asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading. Hearing no objections, the Bill is on Second. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Kulas and B. Pedersen."
"Representative Kulas."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3 rewrites the Bill, deletes the enacting clause and rewrites the Bill. It's the omnibus for the EPA Bill."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 1867 and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Peterson."
"Representative Peterson."
"Madam Speaker, withdraw Amendment 4."
"Withdraw #4. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Peterson."
"Representative Peterson."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment 5 changes the date for the completion of the Department study from September 1, '88 to December 1, '89, and changes the date 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 for the adoption of the regulations from December... September 1, '88 to December, '89. I move for adoption of Amendment 5."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #5 to House Bill 1867. Does anyone stand in opposition? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall Amendment #5 be adopted?" All those in favor say "aye", opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 2113, Representative Bowman? Representative Bowman. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2113, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Bowman asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. Are there any Amendments filed?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Bowman."
"Representative Bowman."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 was prepared in consultation with the Human Rights Commission, which is the Agency that would administer the law if this Bill passes. With this Amendment, they have no objections to the Bill and it basically addresses problems and questions that arose in Committee. It makes the language of the Bill more crisp and I move for its passage."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 2113 and on that question, is 42 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEHBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DЕВАТЕ 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is. 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 2855, Representative Rea. Clerk, read the Bil1. 2655. Read the Bill, Ar. Clerk."
"House 3111 2655, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Rea asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Are there any Amendments filed. Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Rea, Ryder and HcPlke."
"Representative Rea."
"Withdraw Amendment 2."
"Withdraw #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Rea, Ryder and HcPike."
"Representative Rea."
"Thank you. Hadam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment amends the Vehicle Code. This Amendment represents an agreement among the various parties, including the Secretary of State's Office, Cook County State's Attorney's Office, the licensed Auto Recyclers and Rebuilders and Repairers of Illinois, the Auto and Truck Recyclers of Illinois, the Illinois New Car and Truck Dealers Association and the Scrap Processors. In 43 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the Spring of '84 we passed legislation which established procedures to address the chop-chop operations in this state and we added new definitions to the Vehicle Code, licensing, Inspection, and record keeping policies. and then last Spring a measure to make technical corrections and clarifications developed through these negotiations. So this is an agreed Amendment."
"Representative Rea moves for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 2655. Is there any objection. Hearing none. the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 2821, Representative Wojcik. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2821, a Bill For an Act to amend Sections... certain Sections of the Illinois Clinical Laboratory Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Wojcik asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objection, the Lady has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Wojcik."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. What Amendment is, it's an agreement between the Medical Society and the Department of Public Health. It's agreed to and all people have been together and talked about it."
"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2821, and on that question, is 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 65th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 942. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Steczo."
"House Bill 942, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to energy generation from solid waste. Second... Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative McPike - Steczo. Representative Steczo, on the Amendment. Excuse me, Representative Steczo asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment. Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative McPike and Steczo."
"Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Please withdraw Amendments #1 and #2."
"Withdraw #1 and #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Steczo and Churchill."
"Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #3 to House Bill 942 amends the Bill dramatically and puts it in the shape that we've agreed upon, and that's the shape of a vehicle which can be used should agreement be reached on the issue of co-generation. This Amendment in this posture has been agreed to by both sides of the aisle and I would move for 45 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the adoption of the Amendment."
"Representative Steczo asks... moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. Does anyone stand in opposition? Hearing... the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"Not... not in opposition, Madam Speaker. Just a brief question. All this does is authorize units to act in conjunction, if they so choose, relative to this matter. Is that right?"
"In its present form, yes."
"Okay, thank you."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3. Any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen, on one Motion we would like to move these Bills... or we would ask leave to have these Bills heard on Third Reading today, the same day that they were amended. So the Motion is, 'Shall the House suspend the appropriate rules so that House Bills 361, 429, 522, 868, 942, 1867, 2113, 2655, 2821 can be heard this same day?" Does the Chair have leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Hearing no objection, the Attendance Roll Call will be used and leave is granted. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now going to page 11 on your Calendar, to the Order of Public Health. The first Bill on that Order is... on Third Reading - Public Health, House Bill 566, Representative McGann and O'Connell. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 566, a Bill for an Act to amend the 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Hospital Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative McGann."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the Assembly. House Bill 566, is a Bill to amend the Illinois Hospital Licensing Act. In the definition of perinatal, to specify that it covers the period after conception to the end of first months after birth of an infant. This was put into the part of the perinatal package, but the clarification and definition, we want to add into it. And I would ask for the approval and be happy to answer any questions."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 566. Does anyone stand in opposition? Hearing none. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 566, pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk, will take the record. On this question. there are 110 voting 'aye, one voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 627. Representative Farley. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 627, a Bill for an Act to amend the Toxic Substance Disclosure to Employees Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Farley. This Bill is on Third Reading. I'll take this Bill out of the record, with leave to come back to it. House Bill 736, Representative Levin. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 736, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois AIDS Registry. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Levin."
"Thank you, Madam Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The AIDS... the issue of AIDS, is clearly the most Important issue before this legislature. You pick up 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 todays paper, pick up yesterday's paper, you turn on the television and on every page is an article or discussion in terms of AIDS. Our constituents are calling on us to take actions to deal with this very very critical problem. House Bi 11 736 геpresents a approach to dealing with this problem that has received the support across the board from almost everybody who is involved in this issue. House Bill 736 saves money in terms of AIDS and provides the services and the programs that we need to deal with this critical disease. It saves money, in that there are four separate provisions in this Bill encouraging long term care for AIDS patients. If you saw the New York Times this morning. saw the statement from the Director of the New York State Public Health Department. That State is close to bankruptcy In its medical program because of the number of AIDS patients and because of the cost to the State of dealing with this problem. House Bill 736, by getting the State of Illinois into the provision of long term care programs, Is going to save this State a substantial amount of money and prevent us from ending up where New York potentially Is, in the State of bankruptcy. About a year ago there was a study by the Center for Disease Control, in which they projected that the average cost of treating an AIDS patient would be $150,000. When they went out to see what the actual costs were, they found In those State's that have long term care programs the costs were less than $40,000 a patient. And it is very simple, the economics are very simple as to why. A hospital bed costs in excess of $400 a day. Long term care costs less than a quarter of that. So the major portion of House Bill 736 deals with the long term care. It provides for a pilot program, in terms of long term care programs. be they using unused hospital beds, be they using nursing homes or be they using 48 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 residential care settings. It opts us into the sixth omnibus Federal Reconciliation Act, under which we can receive 50% reimbursement for the cost of treating medicald AIDS patients, as long as we certify that the community base care for the AIDS patient is cheaper than a hospital care. It also does a number of other things in terms of long term care. So this is a good investment. It's something that the professionals say makes sense, something the patients themselves say makes sense. And it's something that is going to save us money. Additional provisions of this Bill deal with the training of government... State government employees."
"Bring your remarks to a close, Representative Levin."
"Okay... Thank you. Who deal with the public and need to have a basic knowledge of that... of AIDS and how it is transmitted, so they can better deal with the public. This legislation also has on it, as a result of the compromise Amendment worked out with the Republican side of the aisle, the provision dealing with blood trusts for families. If there are specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. I just encourage your support for a Bill that you can take back to your constituents and say we did something significant in terms of this very dreaded disease."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage House Bill 736. And on that question, does anyone stand in opposition? Anyone standing in opposition? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Mulcahey. No. The question is 'Shall House Bill 736 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Lady from Cook, Representative Pullen. One minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hay 22. 1987 House. I believe that it is important that we take a step forward toward the care of AIDS patients, in that we provide for long term care and hospice care for these Infected people. It is an extremely costly disease, it is extremely costly on our society. And I commend the Gentleman for bringing this Bill before us. I do have some reservations about a few of the provisions, but he has made very substantial progress in producing a very fine Bill and most of its original intent even was excellent. And so I stand in support of his Bill."
"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. There are 114... 116 voting 'aye", none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority. Is hereby declared passed. Representative Grelman in the Chair."
"On this Order appears House Bill 627. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 627, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Toxic Substance Disclosure to Employees Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Farley."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 627 was amended. And what Amendment #2 did was strike everything that was originally In the Bill and just put In a... a provision exempting commercial or hardware store operations on requiring disclosure of toxic substance on the tinting of paint cans. I don't know of any opposition to this and I would appreciate a favorable Roll Call."
"Does anyone stand in opposition to this Bill? There being no one, the question Is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. And this is final action. 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Lady from Cook. Ms. Pullen. One minute to explain your vote. Alright. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 115... 116 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting present. This Bill having, received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 12 of the Calendar, appears House Bill 1223. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1225, a Bill for an Act to amend the Critical Health Problems and Comprehensive Health Education Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McNamara. Alright, we'll just take this out of the record. We'll come back to it. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Public Health, appears House Bill 1268. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1268, a Bill for an Act in relation to acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I am handling this Bill on behalf of the Gentleman In the Chair. This Bill provides for the disposal of blood that is found to be infected and record keeping in terms of how the blood was disposed of. It also provides that blood may be used by a research facility instead of being disposed of, but records have to be kept of where and when it went to a research facility and what it's final disposition was. It also relieves liability for those persons in the health care system who are responsible for Informing persons being tested of the results of their tests. And I urge favorable consideration of House Bill 1268." 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"The Gentleman from... the Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 1268, and on that the Gentleman From Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Mr. Speaker. did you pledge. before you left the General Assembly, that you would cosponsor a Bill with Representative Pullen?"
"I always deemed it an impossibility..."
"I think it's time for you to... I think it's time for you to leave. When you and Pullen get together on a Bill, I think it's time for you to leave. I think It's very appropriate."
"Thank you, Mr. Cullerton. The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open and this is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 116 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. Mr. Saltsman, 'aye'. Mr. Saltsman, 'aye'. So on this question there are 117 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present', and this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 1415. Mr. Clerk, take the record." (sic - read the Bill)
"House Bill 1415. a Bill for an Act in relation to Abortions. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill amends the Right of Conscience Act and also the Illinois Abortion Law. And as to the Right of Conscience Act, specifies that a physician is not required to perform, assist, counsel, suggest. recommend. refer or participate in diagnostic testing to defect fetal abnormalities, which may lead to an abortion. The other portion of the Bill requires that when 52 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 an abortion is performed and the fetus is viable. that it be performed in a hospital. This Amendment was discussed at some length on the floor within the last few days. I move the passage of House Bill 1415."
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McNamara (sic - McCracken), moves for the passage of House Bill 1415. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Young."
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Does this Bill alter the definition of when a fetus is viable?"
"No, that's current."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? There being none. the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 79 voting 'aye', 35 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. We'll take out of the record, momentarily. We'll be back to it later. On 1471. On this Order appears House Bill 1623. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1623, a Bill for an Act to amend the Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Curran."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1623 simply requires the Department of Alcohol and Substance Abuse to establish a statewide education program, to provide dissemination of information 53 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 to state employees relating to alcohol abuse and drug abuse. I move for favorable adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 1623. Does anyone stand in opposition to that Bill? There being no one. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. Ms. Breslin. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 113 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Yes, the Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Curran, for what purpose to do seek recognition?"
"Mr. Chairman. for purposes of an announcement. In Room 400, in about one-half hour, Milton Friedman, will be proved wrong. There will be a free lunch. Courtesy of the Illinois Education Association, Room 400. for Democratic Members of the House of Representatives. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"I would just like the record to reflect that there is no free lunch and I have been joined in that by ten other people."
"Alright. On this Order appears House Bill 1471. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1471, a Bill for an Act to amend the Professional Service Corporation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"And on that the Lady from Cook, Ms. Currie."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1471 would merely provide that professional nurses may incorporate for professional reasons in the State of Illinois and join with other medical providers in a Joint 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 operation. I'd be happy to answer your questions. And I would appreciate your support for House Bill 1471."
"Does anyone stand in opposition to this Bill? The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Mr. Speaker, traditionally the professional corporations have consisted of Members of a single profession and this would allow then to join together in a single professional service corporation. The Illinois State Medical Society is absolutely opposed to this Bill. And this consists of a very substantial departure from previous law. And I stand in opposition to it."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."
"This is not on this oill. I just only want to rise and say if the IEA can't feed the Republicans, they're not going to feed me either."
"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Hallock."
"Well, let me just say to you that they are going to feed the Republicans today at the same time in Room 300."
"There being no further discussion. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Morgan, Mr. Ryder. One minute to explain your vote."
"I only rise to indicate that if it gets a requisite amount of votes, that we're going to ask for a verification, please."
"Sure. The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate. Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of this legislation. This is not really a controversial piece of legislation. This simply 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 allows those doctor's who wish to incorporate and to incorporate the nursing staff into the same corporation, so they can participate in profit sharing plans and those kind of things. It allows them to do that. Currently, the Professional Services Corporation Act will not permit that. It's not a controversial Bill. I don't know anybody who is really opposed to this Bill and it's a good Bill for the nurses. They have asked for this Bill. And I think we should accommodate them and put 60 green votes up there so they can participate in professional corporations with doctors.
"The Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite, one minute to explain your vote."
"Madam Chairman and Members of the House. Simply to indicate that not all doctors in this State are opposed to this legislation. In fact, two years ago one of the Institutions in my district came to me. People in the medical profession came to me, to ask me to introduce similar legislation. The State of Indiana provides a much more comprehensive means for intergrating the various health providers in order to have a delivery system that will make a team effort. And for that reason, I think that we should support this legislation."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentleman of the House. If we believe in the totality of the health care system. surely the nurses are a part of that system. And I... you know... I really think, the only reason, that this could fail is that doctors would be greedy. I don't think the doctors are that greedy. I think doctors realize that nurses provide health care, just as doctors provide health care. So, I would urge the Members of this Body to include the nurses into that system." 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 48 voting 'no', 45 I'm sorry... 48 voting 'aye', 45 voting 'no', 23 voting 'present'. And the Bill will be placed on the Order of Consideration Postponed. On this Order appears House Bill 2044. Excuse me, I see Mr. McNamara is in the Chamber, so let's go back to 1225. Mr. Clerk, on this Order is House Bill 1225. Read the Bill, Sir."
"House Bill 1225, a Bill for an Act to amend the Critical Health Problems and Comprehensive Health Education Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McNamara."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1225 amends the Critical Health Problems and Comprehensive Health Education Act. And it includes sexual abstinence until marriage as an educational area curriculum base. I urge it's adoption. I'll be happy to answer any questions."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 1225. And on that, does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. White."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think this particular Bill is a bad one. I think that when you are talking about teaching of abstinence, I think that should start at home. And I think that this is a bad setting for it. And I oppose the Bill."
"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens."
"Well, thank you. Mr. Speaker, the Members of the Assembly. In my district in Collinsville, in the junior high schools there, they are teaching a course they call *Sex Respect'. And the essence of the course is that it is okay to say no to sex. It's okay to practice abstinence 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 until you are married. The kids are very receptive. They feel encouraged that adults, teachers and parents, have the courage to say to them. 'that there are bounds that you must live within. This is a good Bill for Illinois. I urge those who believe in strong families, basic Christian and Judeo beliefs, that you support House Bill 1225."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm sorry, I let this Bill get away from me on Second Reading. I think if this Bill had been properly amended, I could vote for it. I think as a precondition to teaching abstinence before marriage, we should make the teachers sign an affidavit saying that they themselves did not have sex before marriage. I think under the circumstances, we open the door to hypocrisy in our schools. And I stand in opposition."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Kubik."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he will."
"Representative. Is this a mandate? A mandated portion?"
"Mr. McNamara, your on."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a shame that when we take a look at some of the things..."
"Mr. Speaker."
"That make common sense. Those things like you teach moral responsibility and the fact that you say that abstinence before marriage is permissible. Its right. Its good. Now, let everyone else do what they wish but these are things that are important... Oh I'm sorry."
"Mr. McNamara, I was asking a question. I just wanted to know whether this would be a mandated program?"
"Yes, it is."
"Alright, Mr. Young." 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"Indicates he will."
"Representative, just by looking at the Bill, it would lead me to believe that you think that abstinence is not already taught In the schools, in sex and in health education classes."
"If that is a question, I believe one of the things is that if you really look at the Bill, then it would lead you to believe that under this Section maybe human ecology and health are not taught in the school. Human growth and development are not taught in the school. Prevention and control of disease are not taught in the school. Because these are all other things that are mandated under this Section as logical things to be taught. The basics, so, if that would lead you to believe in that area then it would naturally lead you to believe that perhaps the rest of these items are not taught in the schools."
"Representative. Representative, do you have a fear that maybe sexual promiscuity is being taught in this school or...? I don't understand the reason for this Bill. Representative. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker."
"... Has that a question? Do you wish me to answer it?"
"Proceed, Mr. Young."
"It was a rhetorical question. To the Bill. If I were an educator, I would be grossly offended by a Bill like this, because it carries an implication that either this is not being done, or in fact, perhaps the opposite is being done. I wonder what we think that is being, what is being taught in our schools today. Of course sexual abstinence is already being taught and encouraged and all of the sex education or health clinics, at least in the Chicago Public School system." 59 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, I want to congratulate Representative Stephens and Representative McNamara for finally getting it in the curriculum. And this was in the curriculum in the first schools of America. The first schools in America were private schools; then came the public schools. I want to congratulate them for getting back to the curriculum that was taught in early America... in the first school's of America. Congratulations, fellows."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 95 voting 'aye', 5 voting 'no'. 17 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ms. Breslin, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To.... I to, seek recognition to clarify the record, because of the technical problems with voting when one is in one's chair, or when one is at the Speaker's program. On occasion, I have been voted incorrectly, and that has happened again today. And I would like to correct the record. On House Bill 1415, I was recorded as voting 'no', but wish to have been recorded as voting 'aye'. On House Bill 432, I wish to be recorded as voting 'no'. And House Bill 2480, I wish to be recorded... to have been recorded as voting 'aye'. Thank you."
"Thank you. Let the record... let the transcript so reflect. Now on this Order of Business appears House Bill 2044. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2044, a Bill for an Act to amend the 60 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think a Majority of the Members of the House agree that it is time for us to take steps to protect the public from a very deadly epidemic. One of the main purposes for State Government is to protect the public health. And in the situation of the AIDS epidemic, it does not appear that the state has been responding to that responsibility. House Bill 2044 seeks to protect the uninfected. It is a Bill that received much discussion during the Amendment stage the other day. So I will just briefly mention what its provisions are. It makes it a felony for one who knows that he or she is an AIDS carrier to donate blood. It requires blood banks and hospitals to Institute blood trust programs to allow prospective blood recipients to recruit their own donors, so that that blood may be reserved for them for up to seven days, and then released to the general pool. It requires marriage license applicants to be tested for the AIDS virus. It requires the testing of convicted sex offenders and convicted IV drug abusers. It requires infected health care workers to notify their employers and the employers to remove them from direct patient care. It requires public health agencies to notify public school superintendent and board president of any school age child infected with AIDS virus. And It tightly restricts access to data within the Department of Public Health's AIDS computer program. About this last provision, there was some confusion when we adopted that Amendment, and I would like to assure the Members of the House that this Amendment has been researched and does, In fact, restrict access to data within the Department of Public Health's computer. It does 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 not open it in any way. I think it is time for us to move forward to protect the public from the infection. The... this Bill is a reasonable, moderate, prudent, approach. It is not punitive. It has confidentiality built into it, wherever that is needed. And this Bill is needed today. I urge an 'aye" vote."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen, moves for the passage of House Bill 2044. And on that, the Lady from Cook, Ms. Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise in opposition to House Bill 2044. Politicians stepping in where experts fear to tread. The Speaker appointed a medical advisory panel to help us deal with the spread of this dread epidemic disease. AIDS, Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. Virtually every item in House Bill 2044 was rejected unanimously by this panel on the grounds that these measures will not help to prevent the spread of this disease, will not help educate and inform the public how they might protect themselves against the spread of this disease. We'll spend money. Individual taxpayers' money. individuals' money from their own pockets, in ways that will not be helpful in combatting this disease. I think that the measure before us is one that carries with it an Inappropriate message to the folks back home. It will not help to stop the disease; it will not help to protect people from the disease on the basis of expert testimony from the Speaker's Medical Panel. Further, it will give people back home a sense that they are protected, that we have done something that will help stop the spread of this disease. That sense of security, the false sense of security that is inherent in passage of House Bill 2044, is perhaps the best reason to stop it in its tracks. I would urge you to support the medical experts who know a 62 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 lot more than we as politicians do about the nature of diseases that are contagious. I would urge you to say "no" to House Bill 2044."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Clearly, this Legislature and every single Member is under pressure from constituents around the State to do something about AIDS. Unfortunately, legislation is not always the solution to every problem. Unfortunately, legislation sometimes can make a situation worse. We heard extensive testimony in Subcommittee on many of these proposals and we heard that they make the situation worse. and not better. We heard that an open ended blood trust can play havoc with our blood supply system and the availability of blood to those that need it. We heard that marriage license testing, as Representative Currie Indicated, would create a false sense of security, and also Impose probably about a hundred dollar extra expense every time a young couple goes to get married. And we heard that we're focusing on the wrong population In Imposing this requirement. So I suggest that other legislation more appropriate, Is able to give us the ability to go back to our constituents and say, "We have done something significant on this issue." This Bill will come back to haunt us. It will not help the situation. Legislation is not always the best solution to a problem. I urge a 'no' vote on 2044."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McNamara."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill does something that is very basic again. It says that we are going to find out what causes the disease of AIDS and who has the disease of AIDS and try to prevent that disease from wiping out our race. I think 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 that, you know. one point that was brought up is, it was done in the area of syphilis, where we found out exactly what happens with that disease, and then eventually, were able to conquer that disease. What's more logical than that? What else can we do, other than to protect our people, our constituents with at least the medical knowledge that there is something being done here by this General Assembly, and I think it's the most responsible thing that we can do in this General Assembly. At least to give them those protections that are so Important that we were sent here to give them. This Is a very important Bill. It Is a very strong measure that says we are going to try to do something about AIDS. We're not condemning. We're trying to help people. We're trying to save lives. It's important, it's right, and your 'aye' vote should definitely appear on that board. Thank you."
"The Lady from Lake, Ms. Frederick."
"Thank you, Мг. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I also rise to support House Bill 2044. I think our problem here today Is a difference In perspective. I think we ought to error on the side of being safe rather than sorry tomorrow. I urge your support of House Bill 2044."
"The Lady from Lake, Ms. Stern."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I think this is a very grave and serious problem. I, too, am a Hember of the AIDS Subcommittee and heard the experts, and I will not repeat the remarks of my colleagues, but I think we have before us an example of someone that we should all emulate. I have a new hero. I think *Oг. C. Everett Coop', the Surgeon General, a man of Impeccable conservative credentials... not any more, says my colleague across the way... I think не see in hlm, a man who is not going to 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 allow himself to be stampeded against his better judgment Into programs that are not going to have an effect. And I believe that this Bill is one such program. He have asked our experts for their opinion and they have unanimously rendered it. And this Bill flies in the face of every one of those recommendations. I think this is serious. And I think that we have to remain cool and evaluative and careful and I urge a 'no' vote on this B111."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All In favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote *no". Voting is now open. This is final action. The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens. One minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. This Bill simply addresses the problem of public health with public health, responses. It's a legitimate Bill. And I'm glad to see that it's going to pass."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 91 'aye", 19 'no', 6 'present'. This 311l, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order, appears House Bill 2070. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House B8111 2070, a B11l for an Act to provide for the establishment of Local Government Mental Health Services. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from Champaign, Ns. Satterthwaite."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. The B111 as amended, provides for a study group to be formed dealing with Mental Health Services within the community and asking especially for concentration on services to the mentally 111. The original Bill is... was controversial, but by the Amendment we are simply asking that the issue of how we 65 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 go about providing funds in the community for mental health services will be studied by representatives of various state agencies. I would be happy to answer any questions on the issue."
"The Lady from Champaign moves for the passage of House Bill 2070. Does anyone stand in opposition to that? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Hallock."
"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Indicates she will."
"How will this legislation interplay with the different regional Mental Health Facilities that the State runs around the State?"
"Well, this is simply a study and so any recommendations that would come out of this study group might impact on that, but until the study is done there would be no impact. And I would assume that if the study recommends a legislative change we would have to come back and approve that."
"But this study does not at any point in time, at least currently, bind or require any private provider or the State to do any certain things in this area."
"I'm sorry, I didn't get all of your question."
"Does this Bill require the private providers or the State to take certain actions at this point in time?"
"The only action that they would have to take is, if they are designated as members of this Committee, they would meet and study the Issue... designing a system for funding the community mental health services."
"Thank you."
"Further discussion? The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take 66 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION OЕВАТЕ May 22, 1987 the record. On this question there are 110 voting 'aye', 2 voting "no", 3 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, Is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 2274. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2274, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Morgan, Mr. Ryder."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. This Bill allowS for telephone communication between examining clinical psychologist and other people, who are then allowed by telephone to communicate rather than... no conversations or examinations at all. Its not quite as strong as was recommended originally. It's been toned down a little bit and I would ask for its passage."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House 6111 2274. Does anyone stand in opposition to that Bill? There being no one. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?" All in favor of signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are lil voting... 112 voting *aye*, none voting "no". none voting 'present". This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 2276. Ar. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 3111 2276, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from St. Clair, Ms. Younge."
"Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker and Members of the 67 STATE OF ILLINOIS 35th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hay 22, 1987 House. House Bill 2276 is basically Amendment ol which would authorize the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs to make available grants and low interest loans to home owners who suffered damage to their homes as a result of flooding in the month of October, 1986. There was declared a Federal disaster in the State of Illinois during that month and a lot of homeowners in various sections all over the State had damage to their foundations and to their heating systems and to the structures of their homes. And the Federal Program, the SBA program... loans and grants program, did not cover many of these people because they were pensioners, they were elderly, they were sick and had various disabilities that would not make them eligible for a SBA loan. So this Bill proposes that a small fund of $500,000 be set up that would make available grants and loans to those categories of people who were not eligible under the other disaster programs. And I move for the passage of the Bill."
"The Lady from St. Clair moves for the passage of House Bill 2276. Does anyone stand in opposition this Bill? The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Churchill."
"Thank you, Hr. Speaker. Will the Representative yield for some questions?"
"Indicates she will."
"Representative Younge, can you explain how... what portion of the State does this cover?"
"It coverS certain northern areas of the State and southern areas of the State. There was a large... many counties who were... which were declared disaster areas in the October 86 flood. And under this Bill those areas would be available for grants and loans to persons who are homeowners, wh had structural damages to their homes. There were quite a few pensioners, there were quite a few 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 elderly people, there were quite a few people who did not qualify for one reason or another to disaster assistance, or it wasn't sufficient to cover the foundations and the heating systems in the very drastic damage that they suffered. And this Bi 11 is an effort to set up a small fund that would make available some assistance to them. Many of these people are elderly people who have seriously damaged foundations and they need our help."
"Yes, I understand all of that, but is this Bill specifically limited to Just East St. Louis?"
"No the Amendment makes it statewide." Churchi11: "Which Amendment is that?"
"Amendment #1."
"Okay. My records indicate that Amendment il applies specifically to the residents of East St. Louis."
"No. 1'11 read the Amendment to you. It says the *Department shall make grants and low interest loans available to homeowners who suffered damage to their homes as a result of a flood in the month of October 1986. It doesn't say anything about East St. Louis." Churchill= "But the original Bill is only for East St. Louls, correct?"
"The original Bill has been changed by Amendment 1 to make it statewide." Churchil11: "And that's done In Amendment #1?"
"Yes."
"Amendment #1 doesn't say anything about making It statewide. It just amends that portion of the Bill that already exists, which is just for East St. Louls. So as it stands this is a program just for East St. Louis."
"The Amendment deletes everything by deleting lines 8 thru 13. which are the lines of the major portion of the Bill, the body of the Bill. and therefore the Amendment 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day makes it statewide." Hay 22, 1987
"How many homes were damaged during the flood?"
"In my area, I know that there were about 6,000 residences. We believe that the cases Involved In this situation are about 110. I don't know the numbers in other parts of the State." Churchl11: "Do you have any idea of what the cost of this program is going to be?"
"Yes. I have prepared an Amendment which would request that the fund be set up for $500,000."
"And do you think $500,000 is sufficient to repair all of the flood damage from the flood last year across the State?"
"I think that that is what ought to be made available during this term in order to help persons who are similarly situated. In reference to the intent of this Bil1."
"In Lake County alone there were millions of dollars of flood damage. How are you going to cover millions of dollars of flood damage with $500,000?"
"The Issue. Representative Churchill, quite a few of those persons who were damaged by the flood received loans because they work or receive various types of grants. or the amount of the damage to their homes might have only been what they were given. I'm talking about a limited group of people who are homeowners, who received... had substantial damage to their foundations, to their heating systems and the help that they received was not adequate to keep them In their homes and straighten their situation out." Churchil1: "Does this Bill set an upward limit on the cost?"
"He do that through the appropriations proces5. Hy Amendment would establish only a half-million dollars in the fund for this." 70 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
May 22, 1987 "And so if somebody amended your Amendment or your appropriation so that it was $100,000,000, then, that would be the upper limit?"
"Well, our process here is that the General Assembly decides what the amount that is finally approved. And I am telling you what it is and I think it would be an appropriate amount. But, our process is that we limit what is finally approved."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker to the Bill. I would rise in opposition to this Bill. I fall to see at this point how it is applicable to the whole State. But I suppose that even if it is applicable to the whole State it becomes more expensive than just if it is limited to the city of East St. Louis. This is a blank check. We're writing a blank check for damages from the flooding of last year. Believe me, the people of my area would love to have a recovery system for the damages that they suffered last year. But I think before we go in and write a blank check, we ought to find out what the damages are and set out exactly what the program should be to help those people. I don't think we ought to be in the business of writing a blank check to all of the people who suffered damages for last year. And this is a bad Bill to pass at this time."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, I wonder if we could just interrupt the presentation of this Bill for a few moments for the Introduction of a distinguished Illinois Senator. Mr. Madigan, in the Chair."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, excuse me for the interruption, especially in the middle of a Bill. But we are very happy to have with us one of our United States Senators. A man who served in this Chamber and in the Senate for several years, before serving in State Office. And now representing us at the Capital of the United 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day States. Our Dixon." Alan Dixon: good friend, United States May 22, 1987 Senator Alan for "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I thank you that friendly reception. It's great to have an opportunity to visit in the Illinois House where I spent so many happy years. I was elected to the House in November of 1950, the year that Everett McKinley Dirksen defeated Scott Lucas and came here in January of 51, served twelve years In the House. And may I say Mr. Speaker, we never worked on a Friday in May in all the time I was a Member of the Legislature in either the House or the Senate. In fact, we adjourned in the middle of June in 1951, with all our work done. I used to speak all the time against annual Sessions and say that the cost of government would rise in direct proportion to the number of days that the General Assembly was In Session. And I just want to tell you that when I was here as a freshman Member of the Illinois House, Adali Stevenson was Governor, the budget for two years was one billion dollars, and we thought it was a lot of money. He drop that on the floor in Washington, nowadays. But may I say to you, that It was a great privilege to be here, a great experience in my life. I think about it always with the warmest and the greatest memories and I appreciate the opportunity to come back and to say to every one of you individually and as a group. You have my highest personal regards and my best wishes and my office Is always open. And I want to be of service to you at every opportunity. God bless you all and thank you for letting me come and say hello."
"I think that the Senator was entering a Motion to adjourn there. Alright. Yes. Matijevich."
"On behalf of somebody else, I was going to ask Alan. Is there any truth to the rumor that he's Jim Edgar's 72 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 father? But I was going to say myself that we appreciate that big smile of Alan, Senator Dixon. He haven't seen a board smile like that since Judy Koehler left the House."
"Alright. Ladles and Gentlemen, Representative Younge had presented her Bill. Mr. Churchill had stood in opposition and questioned her with respect to that Bill. There are a number of folk's who wish to speak on the B111. I wonder if we might, take the Roll and have Members speak, on... as explanation of vote. If I could have leave that? Therefore, accordingly, Younge to close. Briefly." Younge: Hs. some other reason. for "Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. There Is по questlon but that during the recent National Disaster... the Federal Disaster, in terms of a flood. There were a number of homeowners that simply fell through the cracks in terms of the federal programs. They were not able to get SBA Loans because they were senior citizens, or because they didn't have the income ог they were approaching retirement or because they were ill or they were blind or These people experienced damages to their foundations, to their floors. to the sidewalks. to thelr heating systems. And they simply are living in houses which are almost uninhabitable. The questions are clearly verified that there is a great need and I think what we ought to do is to establish this program In the Department of DCCA, as a program and establish a small fund in order to help a number of the people this year. And I move for the passage of this Bill for those reasons."
"The question Is shall this Bill pass? All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting Is now open. The Gentleman from Cook, Hr. Huff. One minute to explain your vote." 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEΒΑΤΕ 52nd Legislative Day
"Thank you, Hr. Speaker. Very briefly. I rise to support this Bill. This is a reason Bill. It's well balanced and it shows a great deal of compassion on the part of this Lady. And of course there are always a great number of people, for whatever the reason, who fall between the cracks. That's what this Bill attempts to do, to try to go back and have a tertiary effect on trying to give some benefit of those people, for reasons beyond their control, as to why they were left out of the program."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Мг. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 67 'aye', 45 'nay', 3 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Hajority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order, appears House Bill 2594. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2594, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the care and custody of minors. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Madison. Mr. Wolf."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Request leave to bring the dill back to Second, for purposes......"
"The Gentleman, asks leave of the House, to return this BI 11 to the Order of Second Reading, for the purpose of an Amendment? Leave is granted. Hr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3 is being offered by Representative Wolf."
The Gentleman from Madison. Mr. Holf."
"Withdraw Amendment #3."
"Number 3, withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 24, being offered by Representative Holf."
"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. wolf, on 74 52nd Legislative Day Amendment #4." STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"Amendment #4, Mr. Speaker, is strictly a technical Amendment. And, I move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Madison, moves for the adoption of Amendment #4. Is there any discussion? There being none. The question is 'Shall it be adopted?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes', have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf, asks leave to have this considered... this Bill considered at this time. Does the Gentleman have leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill, on Third Reading."
"House Bill 2594, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the care and custody of minors. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 2594 amends the Juvenile Court Act and the County Shelter Care and Detention Home Act. It authorizes the Juvenile Court Judge to place an adjudicated minor in home detention shelter care and also authorizes an increase in the cap of the tax levy used to establish and support a shelter care or detention home. The increase in the tax levy is by a referendum only. The Bill also strikes from current law some outdated and inappropriate phraseology which is no longer consistent with other Sections of the Code. I move for passage of House Bill 2594."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 2594. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman 75 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens." May 22, 1987
"Just one quick question, to make sure that this is a Wolf: front door referendum only. Right?" "Front door referendum."
"Thank you."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote "no". Voting Is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 111 voting "aye", none voting 'no' none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House alll 2682. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2682, a Bill for an Act in relationship to Hemophilia Advisory Committee. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Pullen."
"Hr. Speaker, I would appreciate it if I could ask for Representative Stephens to handle the Bill, please. His Amendment has become the 3111."
"The Gentleman (sic - Lady) yields her time to Mr. Stephens. The Gentleman from St. Clair, Hr. Stephens."
"Thank you, Ar. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2682 as amended would require the Department of Public Health to trace the sexual contacts of those persons infected with the AIDS virus. This is a standard public health procedure being done routinely for syphilis and gonorrhea for many years. He debated this Issue last evening, I believe, and rather than further explanation I would yield to any questions and I would move for its passage."
"The Gentleman from St. Clair moves for the 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DЕЗАТЕ 52nd Legislative Day adoption... the of May 22, 1987 House Bill 2682. Does The Gentleman from Cook, Мг. passage for anyone stand in opposition? Homer."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. He had a question and answer session on this bill previously and I must rise to oppose the Bill and ask others to consider what the Bill would do and why the experts have advocated, to my understanding, pretty unanimously against this Bill. This is a contact tracing provision which would set up a mechanism whereby the local health departments would be required. If delegated by the state, to, each time there was a case of someone contracting AIDS, to interrogate that person about all the other sexual partners that person's had within the previous seven years. And then the local health department would be required to go out and find and trace every sex partner that that person's had sex with for the past seven years, regardless of where the people have moved to, and can you imagine the expense and the effort that would be associated with such a program. number one. and number two, the desirability at this point in time of having a program where you could have, for example, a lady who Is marrled. happily married with children who gets a letter from the local health department from some county saying, *Dear Mrs. Jones: You are hereby advised that we've talked to Mr. Smith, who has AIDS, and he tells US that you had intercourse with him six years ago.. How disruptive that type of communication would be, number one. and number two, the type of rumor mill that that might create throughout all communities about these kinds of circumstances, so the merit of this kind of program. I know it's well Intended, but it's burdensome, It's expensive, and then there's a provision in the Bill that would say that if any disgruntled citizen that lives within the 77 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Jurisdiction of a local health department feels that the local health department isn't doing its utmost under this obligation, that that Individual can go into court, have immediate standing to file a complaint in court, and has to do nothing else, because all the Bill would require, the person files a complaint, and then if the burden, according to this Bill, would be on the health department to prove that it has been doing a good job. Now, that's the darndest kind of litigation I've ever heard of. Can you Imagine setting up a structure where a plaintiff can come in and just make some sort of an unfounded claim, and then, putting the burden on the defendant to prove his innocence? What kind of justice or concept is that? And if you adopt it for this kind of a policy, what kind of precedent are you establishing for other kind of lawsuits? You talk about frivolous lawsuits. My lord, you're opening Pandora's box by establishing a precedent such as this."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McNamara."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is... has the audacity to actually trace down a disease and try to prevent other people from getting a disease. How can we do something like that? It just makes too much common sense to do that. It's no different than the syphilis tracing, the gonorrhea tracing, the things that help wipe out those dreaded diseases. And also, in the previous remarks, it said that it would be burdensome. It would require that a governmental agency does its job. Well, I'd like to see a lot of governmental agencies doing their job, and I think the public has that right to require that. If it is burdensome to save the public, to save a life, then let it be burdensome. This is a fine piece of legislation that's going to go a long way 78 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 towards helping to trace, to cure, to help our society rid itself of this scourge. and I urge its passage. Thank you."
"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall this B111 pass?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 81 'aye', 30 'no', 3 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. And now Ladies and Gentlemen, on this, on page 9 of the Calendar on the Order of Speaker's Table, Public Health, appears House Resolution 242. Mr. Clerk."
"House Resolution 242 urges the Council on Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities of the Citizens Assembly to study the overuse of adolescent psychiatric hospitals and units."
"And on that the Gentleman From Cook, Mr. Williams."
"Yes. There is... there have been two Amendments to the Resolution to remove objectionable language there that was there. We would ask for the Clerk to..."
"Alright. Mr. Clerk, are there Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Williams."
"Mr. Williams on Amendment #1."
"Floor... Floor Amendment #1 addresses a problem that Representative Sutker had with the Bill... with the Resolution and it just removes certain, what I would say, classifying language so that the Resolution would expand its scope to deal with all families regardless of class or..." 79 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Ms. Hojcik, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I have an Amendment. Maybe there is a Clerk error?"
"We'll check. Yes. There is an Amendment filed additionally by Ms. Hojcik... Wojcik and it apparently was listed as Amendment 1 also, so with leave of the House we will allow the... Ms. Wojcik to amend that Amendment on its face. Mr. Clerk, would you advise us of the Reference Bureau number on that?"
"The Amendment offered by Representative Hojcik is HRS85HRO242LKHC01."
"Alright. With leave of the House, that will be designated as Amendment #2 and on Amendment #2, Ms. Wojcik."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. What Amendment #2 does, it urges the Citizens Assembly to not hold their hearings in weeks in which the legislature is in Session; and again I must reiterate the reason for this is because of the lack of attendance on the citizens part. And if we're going to perform this service and truly do it In a professional way, we should do it when the citizens and the Legislators have time to pay attention to what is going on at the committee meetings."
"The Lady moves Amendment 2 and on that the Gentleman from Lee, Mr. Olson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment has been offered a number of times. As co-chairman with Senator Kelly of the Citizens Assembly BO STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEGATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 on Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities, I rise in opposition to this Amendment that comes from the Department of Public Ald, ostensibly. We are best served when we have many of our meetings while we are here. It cuts down on travel time, cuts down on travel costs. An isolated Incident that may have happened within the last few weeks should not detract from the activities of the Citizens Assembly. I urge the defeat of this Amendment."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I join Representative Olson in opposing Amendment 2 to House Resolution 242. Citizen Council meetings are often set during weeks when the Legislature is in Session in order to save the taxpayers money. in order that we are not doing double round trips to and from Springfield. There was one particular occasion when the House and Senate schedules changed after a particular Citizens Council meeting was set. That's unfortunate, but that surely should not give rise to prohibitions or urgings against holdings of meetings at times when individual schedules and taxpayers schedules might be best served. We do not need to support this Amendment, in fact we should certainly defeat it."
"Ms. Parcells."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Amendment. We spoke recently... of a recent meeting where there was not one single Representative or Senator at the meeting. Its very rude to those from the private sector who think we are showing a lack of interest, which is not true. Our agencies of government are asked to come in and testify. We should be meeting in the off-season to prepare the things that we want to bring to the Legislature, not trying to do this while we're in Session. There is plenty of time. As far as the cost goes, half of the people are 81 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 up-state, half are down. Either way, somebody is having to move. I urge the adoption of the Amendment."
"Ms. Wojcik to close."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. First of all I would like to clearly state that this Motion or Amendment is not at the urging of Public Aid. This is specifically at my own urging and again, I say we are talking about saving taxpayers dollars. Well, I don't think the tax payers have an input when the Membership does not show up. The elected people and the appointed people are not showing up to these committees. I think the intent is well. I feel rather sorry for the staff because the burden of heaviness is placed upon them to make major decisions. That is not their job. The decision making factor comes out of that committee and it comes out of our intellect as being Legislators and elected people. This is not being performed. Perhaps we can review. I really strongly recommend that you look at the Roll Call. That you check the absenteeisms and you see who is making the decisions. And the Public Aid is not suggesting this, I am. Perhaps If Public Aid had an input they would make the same statement that I am making nowy So I think that there is a fallacy here, that this is my recommendation and it's purely upon experience in being Chairman of the Public Aid Citizens Assembly."
"The question Is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye", opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'nos' have it and the Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Mr. Williams on the Resolution."
"The Resolution 242, principally what it does... "
"Ms. Wojcik, for what purpose are you seeking 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Wojcik: recognition?" May 22, 1987 "Mr. Speaker, I would like a Roll Call on that last Amendment."
"Ms. Wojcik, we'll give you a Roll Call. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote "no" on the last Amendment. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 44 voting ... Mr. Saltsman votes 'no', Mr. Shaw votes 'no', Mr. Novak votes 'no'. Okay. On this question there are 43 voting 'aye', 69 voting 'no', none voting 'present' and the Motion fails. Mr. Williams on the Resolution."
"Okay. The Resolution basically asks the Citizens Council to study the situation where you find various youth are being sent, some unnecessarily and some who need it, to psychiatric evaluations in lieu of the... in essence, what becomes the criminal justice system. The question is... Is just asking for a study to determine the use of psychiatric care dealing with youth who find themselves in troublesome situations. We've been able to find that many youth are basically allowed to opt into psychiatric evaluation as a means of avoiding the criminal system, while those who may need it and don't have the financial ability to get it, sometimes are left out and the Bill would just ask for a study and I would ask for your favorable support on this in adoption of this Resolution."
"The question is. 'Shall the Amendment... I'm sorry, shall this Resolution be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Resolution is adopted. On this same Order, with leave, we wish to take up at this time House Resolution 360. Mr. Clerk, House Resolution 360. Mr. Clerk. Clerk, are there 83 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Amendments to House Resolution 3607"
"Floor Amendment #1. Is being offered by Representative Barnes."
"On Amendment #1, the Lady from Cook, Ms. Barnes."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. When the Resolution was printed Inadvertently, we left off, resolved, that the Commission on Intergovernmental Cooperation provides staff research, administrative and logistical support to the Task Force. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment 1. And on that is there any discussion? The question Is 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Ms. Barnes, on the Resolution."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Resolution 360, addresses a series of conferences that the Intergovernmental Cooperation Commission is held. It was a result of a Senate Resolution 813, that appropriated $10,000 for the purposes of studing teenage suicides and its effect in Illinois. As I have said on the House Floor before, we held one hearing at McCormick Place. And at that Conference we had over 700 hundred people. The second one was held in Springfield, we had over 600 hundred in attendance. And a third Policy Committee hearing was held and we had over 400 hundred and that was held up in Cook County. This Resolution calls for the Task Force, for 12 Members, three appointed by the Speaker, three by the Minority Leader, three by President 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 of the Senate and three by the Minority of the Senate. He feel that if this Task Force is in place, that we will come up with some very very suitable solutions to a definite problem that we are facing in the State of Illinois. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Barnes, moves for the adoption of House Resolution 360. Does anyone stand in opposition? The question is 'Shall this Resolution be adopted? All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open and this is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 112 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Resolution having received the appropriate Majority, is hereby adopted. Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, on the Order of Special Call Volunteer Liability, appears House Bill 1312. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. Novak, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to be recorded for the record as an 'aye' vote on House Bill 360."
"Transcript on House Resolution 360, the transcript will so reflect."
"Thank you."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 10 of the Calendar, House Bill 1312, a Bill for an Act to amend the General Not-For-Profit Corporation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin on House Bill 1312."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I will open and Representative Richmond will close on this Bill. The Bill in its current form, deals with the problem faced by number of downstate agricultural 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 co-ops. Where members of those co-op's who sit on the board, have to take time off from their farms, hire people to do the work and come to the meeting of the Boards. And so what they do currently is to pay to get reimbursed for their time. When we passed House Bill... Senate Bill 1200 last year, we immunized Members of the Board of Directors for judgement. In terms of negligent conduct. But, we required that they serve without compensation. This legislation attempts to deal with that situation... the unique situation faced by these member co-ops, where the members do have to take the time off, hire somebody in most cases to work on the farm in their absence and go to the meetings. It is expected that there will be additional Amendments in the Senate to this legislation. And our intention at this point is simply to keep this Bill moving."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin. moves for the passage of House Bill 1312. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Yeah, Representative, how come you got such a good egg Bill here for a change?"
"For all of my rural constituents."
"Thank you."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. And this is final action. The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. After this Roll Call I have an inquiry to the Chair."
"Okay. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted 86 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Tate, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of Information. Can the Chair indicate to the Membership if and when we will do budget's today?"
"Well, we'll have to check that and be back to you. He will be back to you, Mr. Tate. Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going on a Special Subject Matter Call - State Government Second Reading and on that appears House Bill 1304. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 3 of your Calendar, House Bill 1304, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Are there Motions with respect to Amendment #1."
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representatives Capparelli and Barger."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capparelli, on Amendment #2."
"Mr. Speaker, would you table that Amendment, please?"
"The Amendment's withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representatives Capparelli and Barger."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capparelli, on Amendment 3." 87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Capparel11: "Table that one, too."
"Hithdrawn. Further Amendments?" May 22, 1987
"Floor Amendment 24, offered by Representative Cowlishaw."
"The Lady from DuPage, Hs. Cowlishaw, on Amendment 4."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment 24 was suggested by Representative O'Connell and simply changes the word 'compensation' to the words 'a reasonable honorarium'. Heans the same thing."
"The Lady from DuPage moves for the adoption of Amendment 4. And on that the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Representative Cowlishaw, I recall this Bill being up in the Judiciary Committee. Is that correct?"
"Yes, Sir."
"And did it pass out of the Judiciary Committee, or not?"
"Yes, sir."
"And this was an Amendment that we talked about in Committee, as I recall."
"Yes, sir. Representative O'Connell suggested in Committee, that we might want to might want to change the word 'compensation' to 'honorarium' in order to make very clear what the intention was, Tape Malfunction. And then further discussion with Representative O'Connell, he thought be a good idea to put the word 'responsible' in front of it."
"Okay, thank you."
"You're welcome."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. O'Connell."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Amendment that I had talked to Representative Cowlishaw about during 88 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Committee and she accommodated some of my concerns. That It be interpreted as compensation by placing It as reasonable honorarium, I think It avoided the potential improprieties that may have emanated. So I would support the Lady's Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"It is a point of inquiry. Is Amendment #1 on the Bill? Because, that greatly expands the...
"Mr. Clerk, has Amendment #1 been adopted?"
"Amendment #1 is adopted."
"Yes, it has been adopted, Mr. Cullerton."
"Is that what you want, Representative Cowlishaw?"
"Representative Cullerton, Amendment #1 was adopted in the Judiciary Committee and became the Bill."
"It allows any county wide elected official... "
"Any County Official elected county wide. That is correct."
"Including Coroners?"
"That is correct. Anyone elected county wide."
"Or their designee?"
"No. That is not in there. No designees are permitted. Representative Cullerton, you almost have to read Amendment #1, because that becomes the Bill."
"Mr. Olson, the Gentleman from Lee."
"Will the Lady yield?"
"Indicates she will."
"Mary Lou, who is supporting this initial initiative? Who of the County Officials wants to get into this posture?"
"Representative Olson, this legislation was not suggested by any specific county official in my own county or any other. It was suggested by various persons who have to do with various religious persuasions who have members of their congregations who wish to marry someone who is not 89 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 of the same religious persuasion and have a civil marriage ceremony in a private home or a hotel on the evening, or on a weekend. And since we no longer permit Judges, to accept any compensation honorarium or whatever, for performing civil marriage ceremonies these young couples are unable to find anyone to come and officiate at their wedding."
"Well, in our small area, the 15th Circuit, our Judges quite readily perform those ceremonies because that's good for them at retention time. And we've had no problems with people of different ethnic and religious persuasions from being married. I was just curious. I think I can speak for our County Clerks, in our District. I don't think they'd be too anxious to get into this. Is this permissive...or would this become statutory?"
"It's not required at all. Anyone who does not wish to do this is not compelled to do so."
"Do the Coroners and the Circuit Clerks and Recorders and Auditors know this legislation is floating around?"
"I would suppose so."
"Thank you."
"You are welcome. Mr. Speaker, I move for adoption of this Amendment.
"The question is 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments?"
"Third Reading. The Lady asks leave of the House to allow this Bill to be considered at this time. Leave using the Attendance Roll Call. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1304, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Reading of the Bill."
May 22, 1987 "Lady from DuPage. Ms. Cowlishaw."
"Thank you Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Since we no longer permit Judges, whether they are still serving as Judges, or are retired Judges to accept any compensation whatsoever for performing a civil marriage ceremony we have found in certain areas of the State and particularly those areas of high population density, that if a young couple who consist of two different religious persuasions would like to be married and have that marriage ceremony. a civil ceremony which would therefore not emphasize the differences between them, but rather the forward looking sort of togetherness that marriage is the promise of, are unable to find anyone to come and perform this ceremony. Consequently all this Bill does is authorize, and by the way I should add that under current law. the County Clerk of Cook County has the right to solemnize marriages. But, that is the only county official In the entire State who that has that authority. So, we would extend that authority to all the other county clerks in the other 101 counties. And because of the fact that if you are only going to have the County Clerk, It is possible that that person might have a scheduling conflict at the time when the wedding was planned. Consequently, we extended this to any county official who is elected county wide and have provided that if this person does this, at some time other than regular business hours, that person would be entitled to receive a reasonable honorarium for having gone out on the evening or the weekend to perform a civil marriage. That's all the Bill does. It does not require anyone to do this. It simply authorizes them to do so if they choose to. Thank you."
"The question is, the Lady from DuPage moves for 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the passage of House Bill 1304. And on that the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sutker."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. I want to commend the Lady for a creative and innovative approach to a very severe problem in the marriage field. It's thoughtful. It is something that I think will be used. We know that Judges are avoiding the responsibility of conducting marriages for many purposes. Part of it relating to matters that concern them in their capacity as Members of the Judiciary and I support her bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Preston."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the highest respect for the Sponsor of this Bill. I know she is concerned about it, we've talked about this legislation. And yet I have to rise in opposition to her Bill. I think that it is very bad public policy to permit employees, elected officials, high ranking elected officials, throughout the State of Illinois the clerks and other county wide elected officials to accept additional private fees paid to them by people who want to use their services. I know in Cook County there is indeed no problem getting Judges to perform marriages for couples. That's one of the functions they do regularly. I know from personal experience, that Judges go out and are willing to perform those services at somebodys hotel or home when they are having a wedding ceremony. And to permit, in addition to Clerk's, other people to do it is one thing. that's fine. But permitting them to take honoraria for doing this kind of service. I think, is highly Inappropriate. In fact what I think we'll find if this becomes law, is that you will find in some of the counties, you'll find people who are out hustling to do these marriages. Because if you charge $25 for a single marriage, you might be able to have a great Saturday by 92 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 putting together an extra eight marriages. pick up and extra $200. And you might be known as a county official who's out there trying to say 'don't go to your church. Come to me, I'll perform your wedding. We'll have it real nice, any way you want it." I think that's not what government ought to be about. And while I know the Lady is very sincere. I think it... we really should not be allowing public officials to use their office, their official duties of their office, to earn private money."
"With... since there are no... seeking recognition, with leave of the House we'll take the record and allow Members to explain their vote. The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. This is final action. The Gentleman from DeKalb. Mr. Countryman. One minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of this Bill. In all due respect to the Gentleman who just spoke, unfortunately we didn't Include State Representatives. He might be out there hustling these things on Saturday. Maybe he needs something to do on Saturday. I don't know. But I just don't believe that's the way its going to work. There is a definite problem out there. The Lady has addressed the problem. People who take a Saturday afternoon and attend this sort of a ceremony usually stay, they spend the entire day there. And If they get an honorarium for it. I think it's appropriate. We authorize ministers to do this and receive an honorarium, and that's just fine. I don't think there is any difference here. In Cook County, the Clerk can do this now. I've talked to the Lady about the Bill and suggested that she add all of the officials in case the one official would be unavailable or there would be a 93 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 conflict of time. I think people are entitled to get married and I think this Bill promotes marriage, promotes proper civil ceremonies when the people want that. And I think it is a good Bill and I ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The Lady from Sangamon, Ms. Hasara. One minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. With all due respect to the Sponsor, I rise in opposition. I'm sorry. In explaining my vote, it has nothing to do with the honorarium or anything else. It has to do with the importance of marriage. When I was in the courthouse, I'd watch these people run in at the last minute, scurrying around to find a Judge. And I think this Bill simply makes it easier for them to scurry around at the last minute without having given thought to the importance of what they are doing. And I think we are just opening up the doors for these fast marriages. If they had to put it off a little bit and think a little more they would be a little more careful. Thank you."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp. One minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I certainly feel that marriage is kind of a sanctified thing that actually should be done in churches predominantly. Although I do understand that Judges do do it. This really seems like it's kind of an anti-business deal, because if you allow elected officials, look, you're taking away the flaws, you're taking away those people who prepare meals and dinners for all those big weddings. It is just kind of an anti-business kind of a Bill. I certainly would urge everyone to vote against it, because you know the next thing these people may be busy, we may have to go to a gasoline station attendant to perform the ceremony."
"Ms. Cowlishaw, one minute to explain your 94 52nd Legislative Day vote." STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to explain for the benefit of Representative Preston. This Bill prohibits these people from accepting any kind of compensation if they do this in their office during regular... or during regular business hours. It only provides an honorarium if they go out on the evening or the weekend to a hotel or a private home or somewhere to perform this ceremony. In that case, they've abandoned their family their home to go out and perform this service for someone. And it is only in that case that they would be entitled to have an honorarium."
"Mr. Sutker, you spoke in debate, Sir. Mr. Sutker."
"Does that disqualify me at this time Mr. Speaker? I'd like to address the remarks of Representative Preston."
"The answer is 'yes', but alright."
"Representative Preston, one of the reasons for the problem currently, is because the..."
"Mr. Sutker, there seems to be a complaint. You spoke in debate. Alright. The question is 'Shall... have Pullen: all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ms. Pullen, one minute to explain your vote." "Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I'm not sure whether this was brought out in debate or not but the Cook County Clerk already has the opportunity to do this... I am not addressing you, Mr. Speaker. Excuse me. And this would extend it to the other county clerks. I think that it is a reasonable Bill and I think that we should give the Lady our votes. Thank you."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. And on this question there are 46 'aye', 54 'no', 15 voting 'present'. And the 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Bill having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared lost. On this Order appears House Bill 2768. Mr. Clerk, call the Bill."
"On page 4 of the Calendar, House Bill 2768, a Bill for an Act to amend the Health Maintenance Organization Act. Second Reading of the Bill. There are no Committee Amendments."
"Mr. Clerk."
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representatives Shaw and Greiman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw. Number one withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Shaw and Greiman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw, on Amendment #2."
"Withdraw, withdraw."
"Amendment #2, withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3 being offered by Representatives Shaw and Greiman."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw, on Amendment #3."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #3, all it does is provide that after June 30, 1987, that no health maintenance organization should continue into effect a management contract with any person whose principal place of business is not located in Illinois. And I ask for the adoption of this Amendment."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of this Amendment. Does anyone stand in opposition to it? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Hallock."
"I only heard part of that, but could you indicate what's the Implication of that change?" 96 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Well, we feel as though that if health maintenance organizations operating in Illinois, that the principle owners should be Illinois."
"Thank you."
"The question is 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" All In favor 'aye'. opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 24 being offered by Representative Shaw."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Shaw."
"All that is is just a technical Amendment."
"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment 4. Does anyone stand in opposition? All In favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have It. Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw, asks leave of the House so that this Bill may be heard at this time on the Order of Third Reading. Leave to use the Attendance Roll Call is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 8111 2768, a Bill for an Act to amend the Health Maintenance Organization Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, fir. Shaw."
"Well, you've basically heard what the Bill does. And basically, the only thing that I could ask for at this time Is the passage of this Bill."
"Does anyone stand in opposition to this BI117 The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed vote 'no'. Voting Is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. Mr. Preston 'aye'. On this question there are 85 voting 'aye', 21 voting 'no'. 4 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 1556. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Apparently it is on the Consent Calendar. So we will pass that Bill. On the Order of Special Call, State Government. Third Reading, appears House Bill 486. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 14 of the Calendar, House Bill 486, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Didrickson, on House Bill 486."
"Yes, thank you Mr. Speaker. I would like permission to bring this back for a technical Amendment."
"The Lady asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for an Amendment. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, other Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, is offered by Representative Didrickson."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Didrickson on Amendment 3."
"Okay, this is a technical Amendment. On page 1, line 1, by changing 'amend' to 'add' and by changing '14a-4' to 14a-3.1'. Just to get into the order that it needs to be."
"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. All in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Lady from Cook, Ms. 98 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DESATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Didrickson, asks leave of the House to use the Attendance Roll Call SO that this Bill may be heard at this time. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on Third Reading."
"House B111 486, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Didrickson."
"Thank you, Hr. Speaker. House Bill 486 requires School Districts to develop a gifted plan throughout the... for all gifted students by 1988-89. Implementation of this gifted program would be delayed, however, until January 31, 1991. whereby we in the General Assembly and the Governor determine the formula and the funding levels and whether or not they are available. I believe very strongly as do many other Members, that we have not done enough in the last 25 years on gifted education in the State of Illinois. This seeks to set out a four year plan where we will move in a very methodical way to Identify those yifted population students in the State of Illinois and meet their needs. The needs of this special group of which have never really been addressed nor met in the State of Illinois. I think most of us recognize that much of the gifted program that we see in our local schools are pretty much pull out enrichment programs and not truly gifted. House Bill 486 would seek to correct that. I ask for your 'aye vote."
"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 486. Does anyone stand in opposition? There being no one, the question is *Shall this 8111 pass?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote *no". Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are is 108 voting 'aye', 4 voting "no", 2 voting 'present'. This Bill 99 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. And on this Order of Business, Special Call State Government appears House Bill 1592 on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 11 of the Calendar, House Bill 1592, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Shaw."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw, on Amendment #1."
"Withdraw."
"Withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Shaw and Olson."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw, on Amendment #2."
"Yes, Amendment #2, is... deals... provides that the health maintenance organization set up a guarantee fund."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 1592. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ronan."
"Representative Shaw, this is an interesting Amendment. And I want to make sure all the Members know what this bad Amendment is trying to do. Representative Shaw, I want you to describe the Amendment to the Body. What does this Amendment really do?"
"The... as you know, Representative Ronan, the Illinois Insurance Companies, they have a guarantee fund set up in case of insolvency. And the only thing that this Amendment is asking is that the HMO, Health Maintenance Organization set up the same type of fund that would guarantee its 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 policyholders some type of insurance in case they go under."
"Well, Representative Shaw, I think you are establishing a very difficult and very important piece of public policy. And I Just want to make sure the Members understand what you are trying to do. What you are saying is that there are some HMO'S out there that probably aren't delivering the services that should be delivered. So you're going to then demand that the legitimate HMO's, the ones that are delivering services for the residents of the State of Illinois, the ones that are really providing decent health care, are going to have to pay for the improper operations of the HMO's that aren't doing a good job. Isn't that a misdirected kind of public policy? Shouldn't we be doing a better job policing the whole HMO Industry, so that HMD's that aren't doing a good job, shouldn't they be brought in, so that they are not allowed to practice in Illinois as opposed to penalizing the good HMO's?"
"No, I don't think SO. When you think in terms of 1,500,000 people in this State are now members of HMO's and if you read the papers, there was just one that went bankrupt yesterday. And those people have nowhere to go once they go bankrupt. And I think that it is the duty of this Body to make sure that if the... this type of service is going to be offered that the people of this State that hold those policies Is going to be protected and the guarantee fund would serve as that protection. As you know the Department of Insurance also introduced their own Bill, saying that it was needed. And I think that we, as Representatives, have to protect the people of this State."
"Yeah. Well, Representative Shaw, just so we set the record straight. What you want to do is, you want to raise the cost of people who are in legitimate, good HHO's. what 101 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 this Amendment does is it raises the costs of people that are in proper HMO system and penalizes them for the people who happen to sign up with an HHO that goes bankrupt. I think this Is not the way we should establish public policy. That's why I rise against your Amendment and I urge its defeat. This is not what we should be doing. forcing our people who are in the legitimate HMO's of this State, having to pay higher rates, for the few that have gone bankrupt. I think you want to address the issue of bankruptcy you should do it through a number of other mechanisms that are available and I urge the defeat of this Amendment. Thank you."
"Further discussion? Champaign, Mr. Johnson."
The Gentleman from Johnson: "Representative Shaw is well Intended in this amendment. but unfortunately I don't think it's well directed to achieve anything good for the people of Illinois. I agree with Representative Ronan and I think more particularly, what I am concerned about, is the overall quality of health care in Illinoils that would result if we adopted this Amendment to in effect subsidize from well managed HMO's that are providing payment for medical services. The bottom line of that being I think, that the ability to pay for and provide good quality medicial services in the State would suffer. I know Representative Shaw is well intended. I know what his intention is, but this Amendment simply doesn't elther achieve those objectives and intentions, or work in the Interest of the people of the State and subscribers and well managed HMO's that pay for legitimately rendered medical services. So like Representative Ronan, I think that people on both sides of the aisle should look very carefully about what they are doing in this Amendment and vote 'no'." 102 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Gentleman's Amendment and I'd also take note and point out that this is essentially an agency Bill. The Department of Insurance, through Representative Peterson. 'Bill', and Myron Olson, introduced this Bill basically, as House Bill 2792 at the recommendation of the Department of Insurance. And all the Bill would attempt to do was to put HMO'S on par with all other insurance companies to make the Illinois guarantee fund provisions that are now applicable to all other insurance companies, also applicable to HMO's. And it is done not Just In the interest of the consumer to protect against the case where an HMO goes under, but also to bolster the integrity of the HMO Industry itself. It's a Bill that's in the interest of HMO'S because the consumers have to have confidence in the reliability of these organizations. Right now, in Illinois, there are 45 HMO's. In the last month alone, two of them have gone under and there are another three that are on the brink. So if we are going to maintain HMO's and their integrity, we need to have them treated no differently than other Insurance companies by establishing this guarantee fund. So I rise to support the Gentleman's Amendment."
"There are a number of Members seeking recognition. With leave, we would call a Roll Call vote and let Members explain their vote. Yes, Mr. Olson, to close."
"Thank you very much. I am a cosponsor of this Amendment. And as many of you have known over the years, Representative Shaw and I barely agree on the fact that today is Friday. But he is now finding that he is on the other side of the fence from the Insurance lobby, who has worked this hard very floor (sic) and are skulking around 103 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 to see if they can defeat this Amendment. This is an Insurance Department Initiative as Representative Homer described. It was part of the original program and contrary to what is being said this Amendment comes to us from the Department of Insurance and I urge it's adoption."
"The question is 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Mr. Tate, the Gentleman from Macon, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Contrary to the previous Speaker, not the previous speaker, but the Speaker from the Gentleman on the other side, had indicated this a proconsumer Amendment. This is an anti-consumer Amendment. We sit down, and when you contract out with an HMO you have a certain set rate. If we are going to allow good financially sound HMO's, which is a consumer decision when they contract out, then we shouldn't have to pay those people that have entered into the contract, shouldn't have to pay for the poorly operated. The real issue here is making sure that we provide adequate reinsurance. That we provide minimum capitals for these HMO's and if we address... those are the real problems. That's addressing the real solution. I see that the Amendment's not going to pass, but if it should receive the requisite number of votes I'll ask for verification."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Huff, one minute Huff: to explain your vote." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The one thing that disturbed me greatly about the testimony of Representative Ronan and also Representative Johnson, was that while they offered arguments against Representative Shaw's Bill, they still did not do anything 104 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 to give relief to those people who have already prepaid their medical insurance, only to be thrown abruptly out of a bed, many of whom are cancer patients, to be told subsequently, that they no longer have that insurance because the HMO that they prepaid has gone bankrupt. I think a small guarantee wo would clear the air greatly and clear out automatically a lot of those HHO'S that are shaky. I think that this is a good Bill and it is a modest protection for the consumer. I think that we should all put more 'green' votes up there."
"The Chair merely recommends to the Body that there are many, many Bills to be considered today before the we close down and one should be judicious about seeking recognition. Hr. Pedersen. one minute to explain your vote. Hr. Pedersen, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Hr. Speaker. I think the problem with the Amendment is that the Insurance industry feels that the... they are competing on an unlevel playing field. HMO's have different mandated ma benefits, they have different reserve requlrements and regulations. And they are all for a guarantee fund, but they don't feel that they should be in the same fund even though they are not co-mingled, because they feel that if something goes wrong they'll dip into their reserve fund to take care of the HHO's, that they would favor a separate guarantee association. I think this needs some work and I recommend that we do that, so that we can come up with something to solve the problem. Thank you."
"On this question there are 42 ayes", 66 'nos', 5 voting 'present' and the Amendment fails. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Shaw." 105 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
May 22. 1987 "The Gentleman from Cook, Hr. Shaw, on Amendment #3."
"Amendment #3 is a technical Amendment and I move for It's adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of there any opposition? The fact, Amendment #3 and on that Is Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Parke."
"Thank you. Ηг. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like to rise against this Amendment. In it does the same thing that we, excuse me, that Amendment #2 did. The only difference is, that this applies to an HMO in Oak Park that has been declared insolvent. And this Is after the effect. It's a lot more than just technical. I'm sure the Sponsor misunderstood what he had said. In fact, this tries to put an HMO that is already insolvent into the life and health... solvency fund and I think this is the wrong direction to take this kind of legislation. believe It is wrong for the policyholders in both life and health insurance companies in Illinois to have to pick up the expenses of a company that did not do well and has now become insolvent. I think this is a bad precedent and I ask for the Members to defeat this Amendment as they did Amendment #2." I
"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also rise in opposition to 2, this. We discussed generally in Amendment the proper procedure for protecting HMO's from insolvency and decided that Amendment #2, in its general approach was the incorrect way to go about this. The Gentleman's Amendment brings into very clear and stark terms exactly whether his proposal In Is the right way to go. This proposal in Amendment 3 would seek to bail out a particular HMO which has already gone bankrupt. It's already been insolvent... 2 106 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 declared insolvent and placed in liquidation. This would require HMO membership to in effect, bring this out of insolvency and liquidation. This is not a technical Amendment. The Gentleman may have been referring to Amendment #4 when he said that. But this is certainly not the Amendment we want to introduce."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ronan."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House."
"Yes. Mr. Shaw, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I would withdraw Amendment #3."
"The Amendment is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Shaw."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw. Withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Shaw."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw."
"Amendment #5. I would withdraw Amendment #5."
"Withdrawn. Further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been amended this day? Read the Bill on Third Reading."
"House Bill 1592, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shaw, on House Bill 1592. Yes, Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Parliamentary Inquiry. Has this Bill amended today? Is that what the Chair asked?"
"The Chair asked that question." 107 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"So Floor Amendment Bl was not adopted. There are no Amendments on the Bill?"
"No Amendments were made today apparently."
"Thank you."
"Shaw?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. The only thing this Bill does, it sets up a risk retention fund for small businesses throughout the State. And I ask for its passage."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 1592. And on that the Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. McCracken, stands in opposition."
"Mr. Speaker, or Mr. Shaw... will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Thank you. Floor Amendment I was never adopted on this Bill. All we have is the original Bill, is that right?"
"Right. The same Bill that Representative Tate passed out."
"Okay. And this requires a retention trust fund to be set up for small businesses?"
"Right."
"Do the small businesses contribute to that, or how is that funded?"
"No. It's voluntarily set up... self insurance."
"Voluntary? It authorizes the establishment of these trusts by associations formed for small businesses. provides for regulation by the Department of Insurance and participation is permissive, is that correct?"
"Right."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all 108 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22. 1987 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all... Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 65... 64 'ayes', 50 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, Is hereby declared passed. ....this Order appears House 8111 2034. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 5 of the Calendar, House Bill 2034, a Bill for an Act to amend the Capital Development Board Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"flr. Cullerton. the Gentleman from Cook, on House BI11 2034."
"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill is basically embodied in Amendment #4 that was adopted last night. The Amendment combines three Port District Bills, House Bill 68, Representative Van Duyne, House Bill 2317. Representative Phelps and House Bill 2034, Representative Giglio. The Bill basically then is the omnibus Port District's B111. Creates the Alexander-Pulaski Counties Port District. The powers that are attributed to the Port District include issuing permits for construction of wharfs, regulating the anchorage moorage and speed of water vessels within the jurisdiction, the abllity to acquire property and issue general obligation bonds or revenue bonds with voter approval, have the ability to levee a tax after voter approval. The Board would be made up of 12 Members. That's with regard to the Alexander-Pulaski County Port District. The Joliet Port District Act, it amends that Act, which is the current law. Right now it provides that only upon successful vote of referendum can the Jollet Regional Port District locate a public airport. This Bill eliminates that requirement for the public referendum, so that the Port District would be 109 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 empowered to locate and maintain the airport facility. The... I believe that's it there. I'm sorry, Representative Giglio's Bill, 2034, allows them to refinance their debt. Be happy to answer any questions."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 2034. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Hennlund."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Section 36 of this House Bill 2034 attacks the Joliet Regional Port District, attaches to House Bill 68. which was a Bill to eliminate the referendum provisions from the Joliet Regional Port District Act that allows them to build. construct and establish an airport. By way of information, because my law firm represents people who are engaged in litigation, in opposition to the purchase by the Joliet Regional Port District of an airport, which is now before the Third District Appellate Court. This Bill, the provision requiring a referendum was added in 1983 by a unanimous vote of this House. It was put in to protect the people surrounding a proposed airport site. It was put in to protect those people from the noise and the air traffic that was involved. Representative Davis introduced that Bill. and was unanmiously adopted by both Houses of the General Assembly. By way of information, this is another attempt to disenfranchise the voters of the Joliet Regional Port District which consists of appointees, seven appointees for six-year terms. I urge every Member of this House to give careful consideration... when you're disenfranchising the voters of the State of Illinois. I am not going to vote on this Bill, but I want the Members of the General Assembly to know that this is another blow to a Government by the People. Thank you."
"Further discussion. The Gentleman from DuPage. 110 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I also rise in opposition to this Bill. As amended, it's actually three or four different bills affecting various port districts throughout the State. I suspect that was an attempt to garner support for what would otherwise have been a distinctly unpopular bill. House Bill 2034, in the first instance, amends the Chicago Regional Port District and allows it to use cargo handling receipts to pay off new bonds before reimbursing the State for money appropriated and expended for such facilities. In 1955 bonds were issued and the Capital Development Board requires that the payback obligation of those bonds not be subordinated to any new bonds. What this Amendment does is allows the Port District to use new receipts or current receipts to pay off new bonds before reimbursing the State for money expended and appropriated by the Port District. This is a substantial change in the priority of debt that is being restructed by this Bill and it is a substantially large amount of money. The outstanding bonds at this time are approximately $12,000,000. Representative Wennlund has already aquainted you with the Jollet Regional Port District Bill. House Bill 2317 would create the Alexander-Pulaski Counties Regional Port District Act and among other things, give it the authority to issue revenue bonds without referendum. It would be granted imminent domain rights. It would be authorized to establish, organize, own, acquire, participate, operate, sell and transfer to export trading companies. This is a very substantial piece of legislation. It is a very unwise reprioritizing of debt to the State, primarily for the benefit of Chicago. I urge a 'no' vote."
"With leave, let us take the vote and have other 111 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEHBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hay 22. 1987 Members seeking recognition explain their's on explanation of vote. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. And this is final action. And the Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Kirkland. one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the controversy that surrounds airports as they grow and as the neighborhoods grow around them, it just seems to me a referendum to decide whether to establish one is an excellent manner in which to not only decide whether one is appropriate now but to set a precedent for making decisions later when the demographics change. I urge a 'no' vote."
"The Gentleman from Will. Hr. Regan. One minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. He all know the problems of Hidway Airport. Now we want to bring them to will County. The expansion of the airport is against public opinion in that area. We're doing a serious thought about a third airport which will take the load off. And also it is a back door referendum. And I think it is a terrible vote up there. Let's go with... "
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there is 61 voting 'aye. 51 voting "no", 3 voting 'present'. The Gentleman from DuPage, Нг. McCracken, requests a verification of the Affirmative Vote. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton, ask for a Poll of those not voting."
"Poll of those not voting. Representative Hartke and Wolf are not voting."
"Hr. Clerk, proceed with the verification of the Affirmative Roll Call."
"Poll of the Affirmative. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. 112 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Breslin. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Capparelli. Christensen. Curran. Currie. Daley. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Granberg. Greiman. Hicks. Homer. Huff. Jones."
"Mr. Mulcahey."
"Mr. Speaker, may I have leave to be verified?"
"Yes, you have leave, Sir."
"Thank you."
"Mr. Wolf? Mr. Wolf, votes 'aye'. Mr. Hartke votes 'aye'. Proceed."
"Continuing with the Poll of the Affirmative. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McPike. Horron. Mulcahey. Novak. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. McCracken, questions of the Affirmative Roll Call."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Hartke?"
"Mr. Hartke... just voted orally."
"Mr. Berrios?"
"Berrios is in Mr. Capparelli's chair."
"Representative Shaw?"
"Mr. Shaw? Mr. Shaw in the Chamber? Mr. Shaw's at the Republican side at the rear."
"Representative LeFlore?"
"Mr. LeFlore is at his desk."
"Representative Terzich?"
"Mr. Terzich? Mr. Terzich? How is Mr. Terzich recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'." 113 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day
"Remove Mr. Terzich from the Roll Call."
"Representative Novak?"
"Mr. Novak? Hr. Novak? Is Hr. Novak In the Chamber? How is Hr. Novak recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting "no". Correction. Voted as voting 'aye'."
"Remove Hr. Novak from the Roll Call. Further. Ms. Stern desires to be verified. You have leave, Ms. Stern."
"Representative Dunn?"
"Mr. Dunn is at Mr. White's desk. And Mr. Levin asks leave to be verified."
"Representative Panayotovich?"
"Mr. Panayotovich? Mr. Panayotovich in the Chamber? Mr. Panayotovich? How is Mr. Panayotovich recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove... Mr. Panayotovich is at the Podium."
"Representative Krska?"
"Mr. Krska? Is Mr. Krska in the Chamber? How Is Mr. Krska recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove Mr. Krska."
"Representative Giglio?"
"Mr. Giglio is at the rear of the Chamber."
"Representative Flinn?"
"Mr. Flinn? Mr. Flinn? Is Mr. Flinn in the Chamber? How is Mr. Flinn recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting "aye"."
"Remove Mr. Flinn from the Roll Call."
"Representative Richmond?"
"Mr. Richmond? How is Mr. Richmond recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'." 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Remove Mr. Richmond from the Roll Call."
"Representative Farley?"
"Mr. Farley is at the door."
"Representative Williams?"
"Williams is in his Chair. Lest there be any question, Mr. Hartke is in the Chamber."
"Okay. That's all."
"Mr. Cullerton, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Well Mr. Speaker, the Speaker asked me to handle this Bill for him and I think that it does contain three separate Bills. The..."
"Mr. Speaker..."
"The Gentleman is explaining his vote. Proceed. Mr. Cullerton."
"I'm explaining a change in vote."
"Mr. Cullerton, do you wish to change your vote?"
"Yes, I'm trying to explain the reason for changing my vote. Is it too late for me to change my vote, Mr. Speaker?"
"Mr. Cullerton, you can change your vote, but change your vote. Yes, or, or..."
"I'm not sure what I am going to change it to yet."
"Well if you'd like, we'd rather not share your mental process. If you have a change of vote, please share it with us."
"I have reservations about a portion of the Bill. That's the only point I wanted to make, concerning the Jollet Airport."
"Alright, Sir."
"And I thought I would be given the courtesy to explain why I had those reservations. But since there 115 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day are..."
"Mr. Cullerton, what is your vote?"
"I think I'll at this point in time, vote 'aye'.
"Alright, change Mr. Cullerton from 'present' to 'aye'. Mr. Flinn is back. Return Mr. Flinn to the Roll Call. Mr. Novak is back. Return Mr. Novak to the Roll Call. Mr. Richmond is back. Return Mr. Richmond to the Roll Call. Mr. Leverenz, for what purpose do you seek... Mr. Leverenz votes 'aye'. Mr.... Mr. Terzich has returned. Vote Mr. Terzich. Mr. Krska. Mr. Krska has returned. Mr. Cullerton. Mr. Cullerton wishes to be voted."
"I want to change my vote to 'no'. That's what I was trying to decide..."
"Mr. Cullerton votes 'no'. Mr. Leverenz."
"I've decided to vote 'no' also."
"Mr. Leverenz votes 'no'. Alright, on this question there are... Mr. Shaw."
"How am I recorded?"
"As 'aye'. Alright, on this question... Mr. Van Duyne, did you wish to... alright. On this question there are 63 voting 'aye'. 53 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared 'passed'. On this Order appears House Bill 1684. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1684, a Bill for an Act to amend the General Obligation Bond Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Madison, Majority Leader McPike."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is the vehicle for the GO Bond Act. Increases the total amount the State is authorized to issue by $6, one dollar for each category. Move for the passage of the 116 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Bill."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 1684. Is there any opposition? There being none. The question is, "Shall this Bill pass?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. This Bill requires 71 votes, an extraordinary Constitutional Majority. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 106 voting 'aye', 4 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared 'passed". On this Order appears House Bill 1154. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1154, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Hill, Mr. Petka."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1154 has been referred to as the State's Right to a Jury Trial. Actually it should be called the victim's right to a jury trial. What this Bill basically does is provide in certain limited circumstances, such as the offenses of first degree murder, Class X felonies, criminal sexual assault and all felony drug cases, the right of the State to seek a jury trial. This right is currently enjoyed under Federal law and in approximately thirty separate jurisdictions. This Bill is supported by the State's Attorneys Association, the Illinois Chiefs of Police and I am proud to say that the State's Attorney of Cook County, Richard Daley, also has supported this Bill. A few years back a Commission studied the felony courts in Cook County at the request of Chief Judge Cummerferd. At the conclusion one of the findings that was made by the Commission was that legislation very similar to this should 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 be enacted as a way of restoring public confidence in the integrity of our criminal justice system. I believe that this is a necessary step Into restoration of public confidence in our judicial system. I have sat In the Judiciary Committee and I have noted many Representatives from both sides of the aisle who have come โก obviously reflecting concerns of their constituents about tougher sanctions against violent offenders. Ladles and Gentlemen of the House, what I am suggesting to you is not simply enough to have laws on the books against violent offenders and against rapists and child molesters. We simply must have a mechanism for ensuring that the public will wil1 be carrled out. House 8111 1154 Is exactly that. It is simply another weapon in the arsonal against street crime. I would ask at this time for favorable consideration of legislation. I will entertain any questions."
"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Petka, moves for the passage of House Bill 1154. And on that the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I respectfully rise and disagree with the Sponsor of the Bill. I don't believe it is a good Idea. Last year we recognized the fact that drug cases are very serious. We passed the Bill that gave the State the right to a jury trial in drug cases. And I don't think that that has been around for very long. I think it's if anything, it went into... it doesn't even go into effect, I think, maybe unt11 July Ist. So before we've even had a chance to see how that works, we are adding on new crimes where this SO called right can be. A better way of phrasing it is really... for those of you who are Interested, it's a denying... it's a Bill that denies the defendant the right to a bench trial. The one thing I think you have to be 118 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 very very much aware of Is Amendment #1 to this Bill. Representative Young, in an attempt to a... probably an attempt to gut the Bill, snuck an Amendment on. And what the Amendment says is that the State of Illinois has to reimburse any cost... oh, Amendment 2 I see, so... I'm sorry, I thought Amendment #1 was on the Bill. That means that the local government will have to bear the additional cost. Now what that means is that State's Attorneys. who as we know are all politicians, and they have some person come to them say 'we would like you to have a jury trial In this case.' They have to go to... the county has to go through all of the additional costs and expense of having a jury trial. It takes a lot longer. You have a need for more sheriffs, more bailiffs and slows down the process. Jury trials take much longer than bench trials. As a result. you have a backlog and when you have a backlog you have pressure on the State's Attorney to start making deals and to cop people out for lesser crimes. So for that reason... those two reasons. number one the main increase in cost of the local government and secondly, the fact that we really haven't had a chance to even see whether or not the right to a jury trial... the State right to a jury trial even works in the drug cases. I think the best approach Is to start off, at least go for a year or so and see whether or not there is an additional cost to the State for the drug cases. See how often it is used or not used. And then perhaps if it is necessary, then extend it to the other crimes. But for right now, I think it is a very bad idea."
"The Gentleman from Champaign. Hr. Johnson."
"To the Sponsor. In your experience as a prosecutor in Will County, which costs more money to the public sector to try, a jury trial or a bench trial?" 119 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Mr. Johnson, It certainly costs a little bit more money to have a jury trial...."
"Okay, second question. Which... Which on an average, which type of case takes longer to try, a bench trial or a jury trial?"
"It certainly depends upon the case, but if I may just get back to you... "
"On an average... just on a average, which one do you think takes longer to try?"
"Generally the felony case would take longer because the stakes are much higher. Mr. Johnson."
"A jury trial takes longer."
"Generally speaking yes, Sir."
"This Bill really has... and I was really proud of the General Assembly yesterday for looking beyond the labels of victims rights and the labels of law and order on the eavesdropping Bill. And they really made a commitment yesterday on their votes to the concept of fairness and the concept of freedom in this country. You know the type of case that this addresses itself to, is the kind of case that society really ought to have vindication. If somebody's been brutally murdered, there has been a terrible case of child molestation, somebody ought to hang for that crime. At least that is the public thought and I agree. Those are terrible crimes. And that's the very reason why this system of ours shouldn't adopt this policy. Because there are cases that are so gruesome and so bad that twelve people are going to say. we got to find somebody, we are going to hang somebody for this crime and the fact that they are charged with a crime is sufficient. Put them away. Either lock them up for life or put them on death row. And there are certainly cases where a person who is brought to trial is innocent and ought to have the 120 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1967 opportunity to have a judge that is not subject to partisan elections, is not subject to the blood mentality of getting somebody and is willing to look at the law beyond the emotions. And that's why it Is important to have that protection. And there are other cases that are completely different major bribery cases, financial misuse cases, that are very complex. Where you have got intricate expert testimony, long detailed testimony and to dovetail that with the law... that twelve people on a jury in a limited number of cases. simple don't have the legal capacity, legal background of tying those things together to handle. Now in most cases Representative Petka would agree, and those of the other of us who have tried cases on both sides of the coin, most cases you want to have a jury trial. You want to have twelve people, because there is always going to be one or two in the process that you maybe can get to. 'quote-unquote'. But this is not a level playing fleld society or a law. We have a system in this country and in Illinois, where there is a presumption of Innocence and prior to conviction, prior to the time that somebody is convicted of an offense, you don't have and shouldn't have a level playing field. I don't think Representative Petka thinks that you should and certainly the founders of our Constitution and this society of ours and this society of laws of ours doesn't think we should. This Isn't a victim's rights Bill. It isn't the law and order 8111. It isn't any of those catch words. It's simply a commitment to the concept that a defendant, until he is convicted, until he or she is convicted, is presumed to be innocent and ought to have those procedural safeguards built up. And If one of those procedural safeguards in a tiny fraction of the cases is to say let's throw out all the emotion and the idea that we ought to convict somebody or 121 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 in the other cases that this is so complex and the law is so intricate that they ought to have a trained jurist hear the case, then that's a sacrifice and a trade-off that we've got to make. In addition to that, jury trials take a whole lot longer, a whole lot longer.... sometimes in these cases take a week, than bench trials. He've got a big backlog in our system, congestion in our system anyway so what we are going to do here Is to allow the State to cemand a jury trial and make the backlog even worse. And everybody admits that it cost more. And Σ think even Representative Petka would agree, it costs a whole lot more to try jury trials than it does bench trials. So what we are going to say if we pass this Bill is let's spend a whole lot more money. Honey is not the crucial factor. The crucial factor is justice and I have already talked about that. But if money is a collateral factor we want to do what we can to make sure that cases In those limited number of cases where it's appropriate are tried in a judicious and economical matter. And for those reasons and not withstanding, I know the sincere commitment of the Sponsor to this Bill and the concepts behind it. It has been beat time and time and time again and we ought not to engraft on it and I urge a 'no' vote."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Hr. O'Connel1."
0 Connell: "Thank you. Hr. Speaker. I think we are all victims of buzz words and I heard a couple of buzz words from yesterday's debate on eavesdropping and today's debate on the State right to d Jury trial. While the previous speaker has the utmost of my respect as a legislator and a lawyer, I think he has bias against at certain of these Issues. And utilizing the words 'fairness' and *politicians where it applies to the fact that a jury cannot be fair but a judge can or a State's Attorney as a 122 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 politician and can't effectively represent in a moralistic and ethical way the people that are bringing the complaints, I think is a misuse of the words 'fairness' and a deprication of the words 'politician'. What can be more fair than twelve people of your own peers? And as far as the State's Attorney being a politician, I'm a politician and I'm proud of it. We have to place within our system a certain element of trust that the people that they elect can do their bidding in an ethical and moralistic way. And mere fact that a State's Attorney is labeled as a politician does not in any way reflect the fact that he cannot be a fair minded and ethical and justiciable individual who can represent the best interest of his people. So, what we are asking here is that it be a Jury of peers to try a murder case, a Class X case, or a criminal sexual assault case. That wasn't mentioned. We are not asking for a jury to involve itself in a complex sophisticated case... and their inability to understand, we are talking about some very basic cases. I think the Gentleman's... the Sponsor's Bill is not only well intended But it would function well, as well. left to these proceedings. It is the jurist who will determine what Instructions will be given to the jury for them to consider on a factual basis of whether or not the facts occurred as they were presented in the case. What's so terrible about letting a jury take that into consideration? He talked about why a case goes to a judge as opposed to a jury. The pure and simple fact is, if a defense attorney thinks it is In his best interest for his or her client to have a bench trial as opposed to a jury trial or visa-versa he has the right to exercise the best interest for his client and decide one or the other. I see no reason why the State's Attorneys clients, the people, shouldn't have the same 123 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 opportunity to have their attorney exercise the best interest for the people and ask for a jury trial if it is In fact, In their best interest. I would support House Bill 1154 and would encourage all of the Members to do so, as well."
"With leave of the House, the Chair would like to call for the vote and then recognize Members on explanation of vote. The question is 'Shall this bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Mr. Dunn, the Gentleman from Macon to explain your vote. The Gentleman from Lee, Mr. Olson to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. From its inception in Committee, Representative Petka has redefined the scope and the narrowness of this issue, and therefore I am going to support his measure."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Lady... I'm sorry, the Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise In opposition to the Bill. This Bill has been before our Committee several times and I have always opposed it. I believe that in certain circumstances It is subject to great abuse. Not by the average State's Attorney, but by the State's Attorney hell bent on reelection, who gets a sensational case before the public eye at a very poignant time in his reelection career. It can do a great disservice to the citizen. In addition to that, I must tell you that the increased cost to state and local government by such a procedure, would be astronomical. A 'no' vote is the right vote on this Bill."
"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Regan, one minute to explain your vote." 124 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
May 22, 1987 "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I think that you all know that the public outcry, every time a criminal gets off on a technicality. The letters come pouring in to all of us. He know that the time is here for justice to go the way it should go and that's for the criminal to be put away. The public wants to be protected and our judicial system is doing an excellent job, that in some areas certainly you have read about them, at least monthly something comes out where some atrocious crime gets away because of technicality. Let's put one more green vote up there for justice."
"The Gentleman from Will, Hr. Wennlund, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you. Hr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Representative O'Connell hit the nail right on the head when he said this is a vote for the people, because the people are involved In every criminal case. The essentlal element is still the people and the victims, and I urge everybody's 'aye' vote on this Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Hr. Sutker, one minute to explain your vote."
"Hr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I wish that all of you had taken time to listen to Representative Tim Johnson on this Bill. Because had you listened closely you could not possibly vote 'aye" on this Bill. I'd like to incorporate in my remarks everything he said. This is a very dangerous precedent, and I would like to see more 'no' votes on the board."
"The Gentleman from Livingston, Hr. Ewing, one minute to explain your vote."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The State's Attorney Is the only one of a four party, in any law sult that doesn't have the chance to have a Jury trial 125 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 if the defendant doesn't ask for it. Thirty states use this. This isn't something that can be abused. The State's Attorney has a county board over them. The State's Attorney isn't interested in increasing costs. The people who don't want this Bill to pass, are the defense bar. Listen to the people who are talking against it. Do we stand here for the people of Illinois? Do we want to put criminals behind bars, or do we want to let them off? If you want to have them behind bars, you'll vote 'yes'."
"The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Petka, one minute to explain your vote."
"Well, thank you very much. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I didn't have an opportunity to close. Mr. Speaker. but I just want to address one issue that was raised, which I believe is a 'red herring', and that is the increase in cost to the State. There is no increase in the cost to State, as a matter of fact, it is in my opinion there is not going to be a significant increase in the cost to the counties. We now have required to have jurors serving, and most of the jurors, when we have these bench trials are simply playing cards in the backroom. So that I believe that we have tossed a 'red herring' into the... a skunk into the wood pile. But more importantly and more directly, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, to talk about this as being a very dangerous Bill, we are simply turning our backs on victims of violent crimes who have been short changed by the system. It is doggone high near time that we take criminal decisions out of the smoke room and out of the cloak room and place them in the courtroom where they belong."
"The Gentleman from McDonough, Mr. Slater, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday it was drugs, today 126 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 It's Class X. It's murderers, it's aggravated sexual abuse, tomorrow who knows what it's going to be and three years from now it's going to be in every misdemeanor. This Is indeed a dangerous Bill, and we want criminals who are convicted to be in jail, we want them to be in prison. But we are not convicted criminals until we have been found guilty. And what if anyone of us was standing in front of the bar, standing in front of the judge, standing in front of the jury. Isn't that a decision that we should be able to make, ourselves? These decisions aren't made by defense Lawyers. These decisions are made by the people who are accused. Its their right. and you are taking it away. Thank you."
"Mr. Johnson, do you... did you just want to verify? Alright. The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn, one minute to explain your vote."
"Well the follow-up of what the last Speaker sald, this 9111 is certainly not going to... a red vote is not a defense lawyers vote because If the Bill, if the green lights prevail and this becomes law, there will be more jury trials and be more business for defense lawyers. Those who are worrying about which lawyers will make money on this are missing the point. The point of the red votes is to protect the individual rights and freedoms which have made this country what it is today. We all talk around here, 'If ain't broke don't fix It', we have been operating with the current system for over 100 years in this State and in this Nation, and we have been proud of our tradition of protecting the individual rights and freedoms right up to this week when we voted to repeal the seatbelt law, because we didn't like the way it impinged upon the individual rights and freedoms of the citizens of this State. This Bill is a retrenchment from that position. It 127 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 is Inconsistent with the viewpoint that the individual has a lot of rights, freedoms and protections. Red is the way to vote if you believe in Individual rights and freedoms, not 'green' on this Bill."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Huff, one minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise against this Bill because it gives the prosecutor the opportunity, given the nature of the crime, to whip the jury into a frenzy of a presumption of guilt when the defendant may be innocent. For that reason I urge more 'red' votes."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 65 voting 'aye', 50 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And the Gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Johnson, requests a verification."
"No, no, no, Mr. Speaker."
"Yes, Mr. Johnson."
"If somebody else wants to verify it fine, but in consideration of the time of the House, I'm not going to put us through that. I withdraw my request. If somebody else wants to make it, I don't want to preclude from doing it but I am not going to try to verify this."
"On this question there are 60... Yes, Mr. Bowman... On this question there are 65 voting 'aye', 50 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 1502. Mr. Clerk, call the Bill."
"House Bill 1502, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to the Office of Public Defender. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Churchill." 128 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1502 says that the Court may appoint the Public Defender to provide counsel to Indigent defendants In civil contempt proceedings. It also includes an Amendment that was put on by Representative Giorgi which relates to the payment of salaries for Public Defenders to bring them in line with the State's Attorneys. I'd ask for passage of this Bill."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Churchill."
"I would reiterate what I just said."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Churchill, moves for the passage of House Bill 1502. Does anyone stand in opposition? There being no one the question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open and this is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 112 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill... On this Order appears House Bill 925. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 925, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman From Cook, Mr. Capparelli, on Amendment if... House Bill 925. Mr. Capparelli."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think everyone knows what this is. I won't go into a long detail. House Bill 925 makes it unlawful to prescribe or dispense contraceptives in high school buildings or grounds. I think House Bill 925 is a good Bill because these high school clinics have been ineffective in the past. The reduction they talk about are not in pregnancy rates, but rather in abortions." 129 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 I believe the schools should be in the business of teaching students knowledge and skills that they need to survive in the modern world, and I ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capparelli, moves for the passage of House Bill 925. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Williams."
"Yes. This has been debated over and over, and I don't really think this statement may or may not change the outcome of this vote, but I represent the area in which Dusable Museum is... I mean Ousable School is in, in which the clinic is there. And even though there are many of you here today who are going to cast an 'aye' vote for this. I want you to think about the situation. You talk about a child should be taught how not to get involved with sexual relationships. You talk about things, but if you live downstate, and you live in a community where the parents have an ability to continually watch the child where there is a two family home and things of this nature, that guidance goes a long way. But if you happen to live in an area like I do, and where the children and the parents just isn't there. Eighty per cent of the homes in the Robert Taylor are single family female homes. To sit there and tell that child who goes out into the street, who sees prostitutes, who sees other things and sexual abuses, his curiosity is for real. His desire to have these things for real and we cannot stop this with this Bill. We will not be stopping them from having sex. We won't do that. This Bill will essentially, forever put certain people in poverty. You're going to force children to be born who you are not willing to support. You're going to force situations that is Just unconscionable considering the level of commitment which this Body is willing to give towards funding the health and education of these children. 130 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 I beg you today, when you think about that child that lives In my district, who's father is not there, who comes up, who has all types of desires and curiosity. When you think about that family, please, for that family whose parent knows that he cannot control that child, whether we like it or not, it just is not the case; and as you cast your vote, please be compassionate for those who don't have the luxury of a parent to give them the proper guidance. Who don't have the luxury of the sort of income, and quite honestly, and a lot of you don't want to hear it, who can be sent off somewhere to get the proper sort of abortions ... and get those things which... that families in our community cannot afford. Think about this very carefully, because this will hurt. You will have people whose lives will be forever destroyed because at 13 and 14 and 15 and even 12 and 10, they're going to be forced, and not forced, but they're going to be conceiving children which they cannot support. Whom they cannot, In any way, give them the proper guidance. So I please urge you to make this choice. Make it one with compassion and not one based upon morals which do not exist in the area where I'm from. I urge a 'no' vote on this piece of legislation."
"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Williams, that was a compassionate speech and I appreciate it. Yes, many of the fathers in Chicago have given up on their children. We understand the 80% of the families in certain areas are single parent, led by the mother. I ask the Legislature in Illinois and the Governor of Illinois not to give up on those children. Not to give up because things are tough. Not to give up because the prostitutes are in the streets In front of the homes. God still lives in Chicago. The families of Chicago may have trouble and may have strife, 131 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Mr. Speaker, but they are still families. They may be single parent families, but they have values and we cannot give up on those values. To take the decision making process out of the family and give it to the schools and give it to government and give it to bureaucrats is wrong. The compassion for those children is shared by both sides of the aisle. We differ in opinion, but the compassion is the same. There are differences between Chicago upstate and downstate families, yes. They're mostly empirical. A family is a family is a family. Let's not give up on the concept just because the going is getting tough, just because statistics are heading in the wrong direction. Let us not abandon the family. Yes, let's be compassionate. Let's continue to work toward a solution for a very serious problem, both in the City of Chicago and downstate. For us to make the statement that House Bill 925 encompasses is truly right. I urge Its passage."
"Ladles and Gentlemen, today is the last day to consider House Bills. The Chair has been attempting to be fair to all in terms of calling Bills, but it requires time just to be able to call Bills for Members. This Bill has been thoroughly debated. both at the time that it was taken from the table and on the Order of Second Reading. He've already had one person speak against the Bill and one person speak for the Bill. I would suggest that we now go to Roll Call and permit those three people seeking recognition to explain their vote. But I would encourage all to be brief, not only on this Bill, but on all subsequent Bills, SO that we can accommodate as many Members as possible. So the question is. "Shall this Bill pass?" Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting "no". The Chair recognizes Representative Kirkland to explain his vote." 132 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day
"Thank γου. Very briefly, just to say that there are all kinds of families, and we would like to put together the families that are broken up, but the families we're more concerned about in voting against this 8111 are the unwanted families, and the families that come along that people don't want to have come along. I suggest a "no vote."
"Representative Flowers to explain her vote."
"Madam Isic Mr.) Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would just like to read to you some figures regarding babies having babies. Pre-natal care, hospital delivery and physician costs, $1700.00; ADC cash grants. $198.00 a month: cash payment after the child is born, $250.00 a month food stamps. $149.00 a month; Medicaid costs for the adult, $2,358.00 a year: first year infant care, $478.00 a year. Would you be willing on the other side of the aisle, or the other Members of this Body, be willing to give these kids a chance in life? 111 you willing to support them for the rest of their lives? And for the previous speaker, we're not going to give up on our kids despite the fact of discrimination, lack of jobs, lack of housing and lack of everything that we need in our community to give our kids a chance so they do not have to Involve in sex. Thank you." you be
"Representative Jones to explain her vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To explain my vote, I think a lot has been said. I think the Members on the other side of the aisle understand just where we're coming from. My district is adjacent to Representative Williams*, in fact I'm across the street from Dusable. Yesterday there was some points made and they were incorrect when they sald when they sign up at that clinic they sign up everything. That is incorrect. I was there during all for of 133 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 the hearings on this clinic and I opposed this clinic along with the Board of Education. The women, the mothers in that district, came out one Saturday morning 400 strong begging us to change. One mother had five daughters. Three of them had left that school. There was two left. Three hundred girls left Ousable High School a year before this program. One hundred twenty-seven left last year. Maybe this does not involve your district. It Involves mine. I have voted for things that did not involve my district, but It was very. very concerning to your district, and I sympathized with you. Now I ask you, I beg of you, please put a "no" vote up there and help our district, the Twenty-third and the Twenty-fourth Districts. Thank you."
"Mr.... the last person seeking recognition, Mr. Morrow, to explain his vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Although I'm a new Member in this House, I had the fortune to come here 10 years ago and serve as an honorary page. This Session we've had a lot of Bills concerning drugs, and this might not be on this topic. but a lot of people were not concerned about drugs In their families 10 or 15 years ago. I rise in opposition to this Bill because of the fact that tomorrow. one day, if I am fortunate to remain in this... this House, a lot of you are going to vote for this Bill because in 10 or 15 years from now the problem that faces us is going to face you. Remember. Think of the future. The future will be here very shortly for a lot of you. A lot of you. I also would like a verification of the Roll Call. Thank you."
"The... has everyone voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourself. the Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 68 ayes and 36 'nos". Mr. Clerk, poll the absentees." 134 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Poll of those not voting. Kulas, Leverenz and Hennlund. No further."
"Mr. Clerk, there has been a request for a verification of the Roll Call. Would the Members please be in their seats. Mr. White, would you please take your seat, and Mr. Williams, would you take your seat, and would the Members please be in their chairs. Mr. Clerk, read those... read the names of those voting in the affirmative."
"Ackerman. Barger. Barnes. Black. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Capparelli. Christensen. Churchill. Cowlishaw. Daley. Daniels. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Deuchler. Doederlein. Farley. Flinn. Giglio. Giorgi. Goforth. Granberg. Hallock. Hannig. Harris. Hartke. Hasara. Hensel. Homer. Keane. Klemm. Krska. Kubik. Laurino. Matijevich. Mautino. Mays. McAuliffe. McCracken. McGann. McNamara. Mulcahey. Novak. O'Connell. Myron Olson. Parke. B. Pedersen. W. Peterson. Petka. Phelps. Piel. Pullen. Rea. Regan. Ryder. Saltsman. Sieben. Stange. Stephens. Tate. Terzich. Van Duyne. Wait. Weaver. Williamson. Hojcik. Wolf. Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. Morrow, do you have any questions?"
"Representative Keane?"
"Mr. Keane? Remove Mr. Keane from the Roll Call."
"Representative Richmond?"
"Mr. Richmond? Remove..."
"Okay, I'm sorry. Representative Stange?"
"Mr. Stange? Is Mr. Stange in the chamber? Remove Mr. Stange. Restore Mr. Keane. Restore... excuse me, Mr. Morrow. Restore Mr. Keane. Remove Mr. Stange. Mr. Morrow."
"Representative Klemm?" 135 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
0 Speaker Madigan: "Mr. Klemm? Remove Mr. Klemm." May 22, 1987
"Representative Hallock?"
"Mr. Hallock is in the aisle, and Mr. Olson for what purpose do you seek recognition? you turn on Mr. Olson."
"Mr. Speaker, how am I recorded?" Mr.
Olson. Would Speaker Madigan: "Present."
"Change that to 'yes'."
"Record Mr. Olson as 'yes'. Mr. Morrow."
"Representative Farley?"
"Mr. Farley is in the rear of the chamber."
"Representative DeJaegher?"
"Mr. DeJaegher is in the rear of the chamber."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No further."
"Thank you. Mr. Morrow. On this question there are 67 'aye', 36 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, Is hereby declared passed. On page 10 of the Calendar there appears House Bill 1229. Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1229, a Bill for an Act in relation to Mortgage Foreclosures. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Would you turn on Representative Flowers?" "Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1229 creates the Illinois Homeowner's Mortgage Counseling Law. And it also provides for... it amends the Code of Civil Procedure to make adjustments for foreclosure. And I would urge for the passage of House Bill 1229. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have."
"Is there any opposition to this Bill? There being no opposition the question is, 'Shall this Bill, pass?' Those in favor signify by... those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all 136 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day voted who wish? May 22, 1987 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 68 'ayes', 43 'nos". This Bill having received a Constitutional Hajority is hereby declared passed. On page 4 of the Calendar appears House dill 2580. Mr. Greiman. Mr. Greiman."
"House 8111 2580, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously."
"Hr. Greiman."
"Thank you, Hr. Speaker. This Bill relates to a loophole in our... oh, I'm sorry. This Bill has... there's a misspelling... I leave to take this return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading."
"Mr. Grelman, the Clerk informs me that this Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. So Hr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Committee Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted."
"Are.there any Motions?"
"No Motions filed."
"Are there any further Amendments?" Clerk 0'3rien: "Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Greiman."
"Mr. Greiman on Amendment #3."
"Amendment 33 just corrects the spelling error."
"Those In favor say 'aye", those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading."
"Leave to have the Bill heard at the time. Hr. Speaker."
"Leave Is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill for 137 52nd Legislative Day a Third Time." STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"House Bill 2580, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Greiman."
"Thank you, Speaker. Currently when a person owing child support flaunts the orders of a Court and does not appears at all for a period of actually three and sometimes four or more occasions, a warrant is then issued. Not a warrant for the nonpayment, but a warrant for contempt of Court. When the person is picked up, that person is brought before the Court. There is no provision for bail. Some Courts in Illinois say, well there's no provision for ball, therefore this defendant must stay in custody. Other Courts have said there's no provision for ball, therefore this person should be let go. And so that is the dilemma that the Courts of Illinois have. This tries to provide some method for a person to make bail pending any determination. Now remember, this is not for someone who is served Initially or arrested initially, this is for someone who has had a summons served, failed to respond; had notice of Motion, failed to respond; had rule to show cause, failed to respond; and then finally a warrant, failed to respond. So someone has had a least four times, four bites at the apple and has not shown up. This would suggest that if they are picked up on the warrant after all those times and they put up 20% of the bail, as bail, they can be released pending the Court date. The reason why 20% rather than the 10% in a criminal case, is simply because in a criminal case we don't know whether the defendant has a history of showing up. In this case now we know indeed that he has a history of not showing up. Accordingly, and of course if he does fail to show then the bond is 138 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hay 22, 1987 forfeited, not to the State, but to the... for the child's support. It's a good Bill, it fills the loophole, and I ask for it's passage."
"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"
Speaker Hadigan "The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."
"Is there any other way to secure the persons release, other than putting up the 20% figure?"
"Well, a Court could... a Court could have hearing right at that point. Immediate hearing at that point, and it clearly could reduce the amount. It always still would be discretionary with the Court."
"Could they release without any money being put up?"
"They could."
"Alright. So Its your position that this language, which appears to be mandatory, does not take away that discretion of the Court, whereby, it could release the person on his own recognizance."
"The Court could clearly do that. Absolutely could do that."
"Well, I'm not so sure that's what it says, but that's good enough. Thank you."
"Mr. Dunn." Dunn: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to the legislation. The Sponsor spoke of four times someone receives notice. I don't know where the Bill says that. As I read the Bill it says that in any proceeding to enforce an Order for Support where the person required to pay the support has failed to appear after due notice, he can be arrested and the bail would be 20% of the child support arrearage. That's more ball than we talk about in our Criminal Codes for serious 139 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 crimes, Class X crimes, where we put up 10% of the amount of the ball in cash and you can be released. Furthermore, I do notice, may mean personal service of summons and may not, I don't know what it means in this particular case, but, there are plenty of people who... if you go to any traffic Court in downstate Illinois, particularly on a Monday morning where people are paying traffic tickets, you will always find someone in the Court House about 11:00 o'clock in the morning who is confused about what Court Room he or she should have been In. They've been in the wrong Court Room all morning, they have not appeared, and they've had due notice. There has been a mistake. They try to get those things cleared up, they try to get them cleared up in a hurry. This Bill, says that simply after due notice the Sheriff can come out, arrest the people and put them up in jail and tell them that they have to get 20% of the arrearage in hand before they can get out of jail. They may have a job, maybe trying to pay on some arrearage. maybe trying to work something out. In other word a lot of circumstances... this Statute... this proposed legislation would apply in every case. It's too harsh. It's a bad Bill. And we should not pass this Bill because it is oppressive. I urge a 'no' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill, pass?" Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 76 'ayes', 32 'nos". This Bill having received the Constitutional Hajority is hereby declared passed. page 19 of the Calendar there appears... for what purpose does Mr. Brunsvold seek recognition?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Just like to announce that my seatmate, Cal Sutker is threescore and four years old 140 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 tomorrow. And he has a little treat for everyone over here at his desk. It's the only way he can get everybody over to congratulate him on his birthday."
"On page 19 of the Calendar there appears House Clerk B111 2804. Mr. Hays. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2804, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #l was adopted in Committee."
"Mr. Hays."
"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker. I move to table Committee Amendment #1."
"Mr. Mays. the Bill is on the Order of Third Reading. I'm sorry. The Clerk tells me the Bill is now on the Order of Second Reading. The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of a Special Call - Criminal Justice, there appears House Bill 590 on page 11 of the Calendar. Let the record show that the House Bill 2804 has been taken from the record, and that now House Bill 590 is in the record. The Bill Is Sponsored by Mr. Johnson. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill for a third time."
"House Bill 590, a Bill for an Act to provide for the Alternative to Defamation Actions for Damage. Third Reading of the Sith."
"Mr. Johnson."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill, I think either myself or Representative Cullerton or Countryman or Petka have had an opportunity to talk to you about already, a couple a weeks ago when we surveyed this Issue. And I appreciate the favorable response we got as 141 52nd Legislative Day we did that. STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Nay 22, 1987 This Bill would create an Act that would be the first of its kind in the United States, as far as I know. And would address both sides of a... what everybody concedes is a muddled state of the law with respect to libel and slander. One of the problems from the standpoint of the media is the prospect of a large money judgment that would put them out of business. And in more cases than not big defense costs that are due to the discovery process that's involved in defamation cases, particularly in the Westmoreland-type case, where there's is a public official plaintiffs. This Bill addresses that in two specific ways. The first is If you choose this alternative that this Bill creates, restoration of reputation and a Judicial declaration of falsity, you can't get money judgment. You can't get money judgment against the defendant. And at the same time it almost eliminates the whole discovery process altogether, pretrial discovery and thus the elimination of tens of thousands, If not millions of dollars in some cases, of defense attorney fees and discovery costs. But it does another thing from a plaintiff's standpoint. It eliminates, if you choose this alternative, the requirement that in order to obtain a vindication of your name, the requirement that you have to show malice. And this Bill simply sets up a group of... or a categorization of elements that you have to show to get a Judicial declaration of falsity. There has to be a material misstatement, It has to be damaging to you, it has to be defamatory and so forth. We can go through the Bill, if you will. I dealt with this concept for a long time, the American Bar Association has dealt with it in various of their counsels for some time. It's gone through a long process of consideration before we put it in to begin with and we thought it was carefully crafted, but because some 142 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 people in various quarters raised various objections. we have a number of Amendments to address those objections. It's fair, it's just and it's something that's long overdue in an area of the law that is extremely muddled and uncertain. I'd be more than happy to respond to what questions people think is appropriate, what you want to ask me. But I think we have a good measure of support for it and it's something that's eminently fair to all involved and I would ask your support."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Record Mr. Laurino as 'aye'. On this question, there are 76 'ayes', 31 "nos*. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Special Call, Criminal Justice, there appears House BILI 2583. Mr. Daley. Hr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2583, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Hr. Daley."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House B111 2583 would amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. And what It would do, would order that no Court may order a physical examination of a victim of a sex offense except as explicitly authorized by the Code or the Rules of the Supreme Court. I'd be happy to answer any questions."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 114 'aye', no one voting 'no'. 143 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 This Bill having received... Mr. Laurino... Mr. Clerk is the score board open? Record Mr. Laurino as 'aye'. And there are now 115 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Special Call, Criminal Justice, there appears House Bill 529. Mr. McCracken. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Blil 529, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the Law in relation to Criminal Jurisprudence. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill provides that every person is competent to testify as a witness except as otherwise provided by law. The purpose of this is merely to remove those presumptions created by case law relative to the competence of a witness based on age. There is a presumption now in case law that a person under seven is incompetent, between seven and fourteen no presumption. and above fourteen competent. This would still require, upon a request by either defendant or the State, that any child be voir dired as to his competence to testify. All this does is remove those age presumptions and where else it is otherwise provided by law as to competence, this Bill would not affect it. such as the Dead Man's Act. I move it's passage."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk, shall take the record. On this question there are 102 'ayes', 5 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Najority is hereby declared passed. On the same Order there appears House Bi11 2584. Mr. Daley. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 144 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEHBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
May 22, 1987 "House 8111 2584, a Bill for an Act..."
"The Chair recognizes Нг. Novak. Mr. Clerk excuse me. The Chair recognizes Hr. Novak. "Thank you. Hr. Speaker. I know It's against the Rules, but some of my good friends come down from Iroquois County. I'd just like to introduce them. From Iroquois West, which is made up Danforth, Gilman and Onarga. Thank you."
"Ar. Clerk, read the Bill."
Clerk O'Brien "House Bill 2584. a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Criminal Identification Investigation."
"Mr. Daley."
"This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Regan."
"The B111 is on the Order of Second Reading. There is an Amendment by Mr. Regan. The Chair recognizes Mr. Regan."
"Thank you. Hr. Speaker. The Amendment is an important Amendment, involving protecting children from incest. But, due to not cluttering up Representative Daley's Bill, which I highly respect Representative Daley, I withdraw the Amendment."
"The Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Hr. Clerk, read the Bill for a
Third Time. Clerk O'Brien: "House Sections of an Act in relation to Criminal Investigation.
Bill 2584. a Bill For an Act to amend Identification Third Reading of the Bil1." "Mr. Daley."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Hembers of the House. House Bill 2584 would amend an Act In Identification and investigation. relation to criminal It would authorize 145 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Police Departments to forward to the Department of State Police coples of fingerprints and other descriptive information of minors who are charged with the commission of certain offenses. I'd be happy to answer any questions."
"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes, Hr. Young."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise In opposition to this Bill. What it will do is, it will aliow criminal justice authorities to forward fingerprints and Identifications, not only of people who have been convicted of crimes, but any fingerprints or records they may have, any juvenile who may ever have been picked up for whatever reason, regardless of whether he was found guilty of the crime. Regardless of even if he was booked, arrested, whatever happened, his records could be circulated. He could be permanently harassed. And this is just a bad Bill. I think we should keep the law as it stands now, where these records can only be circulated once someone has been convicted. Just because they were picked up and have alleged to be committed a crime, is no reason to allow their fingerprints and photos to be circulated."
"Mr. Countryman."
"Than you. Hr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"
Speaker Madigan "The Gentleman yields."
"Thank you. Representative Daley, will this apply in any case where a child is picked up or must he be picked up on certain crimes or must an adjudication of...delinquency?"
"Just forceable felonies."
"Just forceable felonies?"
"Forceable felonies."
"And it must be where he has been adjudicated or just picked up?" 146 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Picked up."
"Alright. May 22, 1987 And what can be done with these records once they are sent to the State Police? Can they be used in any other way, other than for Investigative purposes?"
"It would be normal police... normal police business. That the State police would have."
"It can follow the person for the rest of their life?"
"If he is not adjudicated, he could have it expunged."
"I don't know if I quite heard you. If he is not adjudicated... "
"If he is not adjudicated, he can have them expunged."
"But they are not automatically expunged. Is that right?"
"That is correct."
"Thank you. No further questions."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, Representative Daley, Just a quick question. The Bill says that the fingerprints may be transmitted for all minors who are... and here's the word I am curious about, 'alleged to have committed the crime of'. What do you mean in Juvenile Court? What do you mean by 'alleged to have committed the crime'? Specifically, what does that mean? Alleged to have committed the crime, by whom?"
"The same acts that would be committed by an adult."
"I'm sorry?"
"The same Acts that would have been committed by an adult."
"It just says 'alleged to have been committed'. Do they have to be ... does a petition have to be filed, do they have to be just sittin... detained by a police officer?"
"He has to be arrested." 147 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day
"Arrested."
"Correct."
"And In Juvenile Court what do you mean by arrested? Formal charges filed against him? I would suggest that if the Bill passes, that over in the Senate, you consult with the Senate Sponsor about the possibility of just clarifing what you mean by 'alleged to have committed', because, right now It is very, very broad."
"I'd be happy to work on any Amendment."
"No further questions."
"The question is, 'Shall the Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 84 'ayes', 27 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On the same Order there appears House Bill 2093 by Mr. Wennlund. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2093, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Wennlund."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be moved to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment."
"Mr. Clerk, what order is this Bill on?"
"The Bill's on Third Reading, presently."
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Wennlund."
"Mr. Wennlund."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the 148 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 House. Floor Amendment #4 makes it clear that it only applies to institutions under the control of the Department of Corrections. I've spoken with the Chairman of the Judiciary II Committee, Representative O'Connell, and he certainly is in agreement with it."
"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Is there leave to hear the Bill on the Order of Third Reading? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2093, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Wennlund, on the Bill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill will save lives. It will save lives not only of correctional officers, but also save lives of residents of the Department of Corrections in Illinois. What it does is, it clarifies the provisions of prior law to decide at what point in time a screwdriver can be a weapon. And when in fact, it could be authorized to be used by a resident. A classic example are knives and forks are fine in the cafeteria, but they are not fine out in the recreational yard or in the cell house. A better example would be screwdrivers. They're fine in the vocational shops, but they are not fine out in the yards or in the cell house. Open to questions Mr. Chairman."
"Mr. Young."
"Would the Sponsor yield?"
"The Sponsor yields."
"Yes."
"Are there any type of notice provisions in this Bill?" 149 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Notice provisions with respect to... ?"
"With respect to when a screwdriver would be a deadly weapon and when it would be a screwdriver."
"Yes Indeed. Those would be rules promulgated by the Department of Corrections."
"There is nothing included In the Bill then, as to determine when a knife or a fork is not a deadly weapon?"
"Yes, there is. When the Director of the Department of Corrections Issues its Rules and Regulations and authorizes the use of a screwdriver, for instance, in a vocational building. At that point in time, it would be authorized."
"Is there anything In the Bill that guarantees that the Inmate would be aware of the notice requirements?"
"There are the provisions that where Rules and Regulations are promulgated by the Director of the Department of Corrections, that inmates and residents will be notifled. Its not covered by this Bill. Its already there in the law."
"Thank you."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 'ayes', I person voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On the same Order there appears House Bill 2585. Mr. Daley. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House B111 2585, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. This Bill is on Second... been read a Second Time previously."
"Is the Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"Second Reading." 150 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Are there any Amendments?" Clerk O'8rien: "Floor Amendment $2.
"Representative Parcells." offered by Representative Parcells on Amendment #2. Representative Parcells."
"Please withdraw the Amendment."
"The Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2585, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Daley."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House B111 2585 would amend the Criminal Code and would add reckless homicide to the list of offenses that may be commenced at any time. The B111 adds the offense of reckless homicide to the list of offenses which has no Statute of Limitations and therefore may be prosecuted any time. I'd be happy to answer any questions."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill, pass?" Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 91 'ayes', 19 *nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On the same Order there appears House Bill 2241. Mr. Black. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House BI11 2241. a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. This Bill has been read a Second Time previously. Amendment 1 was adopted in 151 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Committee." May 22, 1987
"Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"Second Reading and Amendment 1 was adopted in Committee."
"Is there a Motion?"
"No Motions relating to Committee Amendment #1."
"Are there any further Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"There being no further Amendments the Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2241, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Black."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2241 allows victims of sexual abuse age twelve and younger to testify by means of video tape in prosecutions for criminal sexual abuse, aggravated criminal sexual abuse, criminal sexual assault and aggravated criminal sexual assault. Let me make it very clear, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, that this Bill in no way attempts to counter Representative Preston's Initiative in this area. House Bill 510... In fact, I voted for House Bill 510. This Bill, however, is an alternative to House Bill 510. It's genesis did come from my district. I think the Bill addresses the Governor's Amendatory Veto. Let me share briefly with you. As you are all familiar, Mr. Preston's Bill, again a fine piece of legislation, and I am happy to vote for it and I voted for it again yesterday, had been Amendatorally Vetoed the last two years by the Governor. I would submit to you that the key difference between House Bill 2241 and House Bill 510 is that House 152 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Bill 510 does not allow cross examination by the defendant at the time of the making of the video tape. Rather, House Bill 510 requires that the child be available to testify at trial and that the defendant have an opportunity to cross examine at that time. I think that we are aware that the Governor's primary objections to the Bill are as follows: It does not adequately preserve the defendants Constitutional Right of Confrontation and Cross Examination. and 2; that as written It would not accomplish its goal of protecting children from the trauma of reliving the sexual assault in open Court. I agreed to hold this Bill until Representative Preston had met with the Governor and I certainly would not intend to move it had he not had his meeting. Let me Just close by saying thisi under 510, fewer children would have to relive the offense during cross examination. On the other hand, those who would have to undergo cross examination would have to do so in open Court. In front of perhaps, a large group of strangers, Including the jurors and the media. Under House B111 2241 that I present to you now, no child would have to testify in open Court, but conversely. more children would have to undergo cross examination. House Bill 2241 is endorsed by the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police. I urge your favorable consideration of House Bill 2241."
"Mr. Preston."
"Thank you, Hr. Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"
"The Sponsor yields."
"Representative Black, under House B111 2241, if after the cross... the direct examination and the cross examination, after the video tape is made of a child, if the prosecutor, thereafter, finds that for whatever reason, elther lack of sufficient evidence or that the accused was 153 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Innocent and no trial went forward, still under this version, the child would have undergone the trauma of cross examination. Is that correct?"
"I believe you are correct."
"And if during the trial of the case there is new evidence in addition to the testimony of this child the defense counsel may want to bring the child for additional cross examination. That is precluded under your Bill. Is that correct?"
"I believe that you are correct."
"If I may speak to the Bill. Mr. Speaker?"
"Mr. Preston, please be brief, Sir."
"Thank you. I have the upmost respect for the Sponsor of this Legislation. He has indeed tried to work with me. He has been cooperative in every way and Representative Regan and I have made every attempt to try to resolve differences with the Governor's Office and because of the Governor's very tight schedule we've been unable to meet with him these last two and a half weeks. I have to oppose House Bill 2241 for a number of reasons. Under this Bill, a hundred percent of the children who were already victimized by an abuser would have to undergo further trauma under cross examination. Under House Bill 510, the previous version that passed this General... this House and the General Assembly, on two prior occasions. In that... under the provisions of that Bill, children who once had been video taped, the Texas experience has been that fifty percent of the defendants once seeing that video tape plead guilty. And in those cases, those children, therefore, would never have to undergo cross examination. Under this Bill, not only would all children have to undergo cross examination, but even children in trials that never go forward where an accused is not further prosecuted at 154 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 trial, because the evidence shows that the prosecution does not have sufficient evidence to get a conviction. Or the person they're after pleads guilty or the person... or for whatever reason the accused is found to be innocent. Nonetheless, that poor child has to go forward with cross examination under the provisions of House Bill 2241. Additionally, from a defense counsel standpoint, if evidence comes out at trial that would require further questioning of this child witness that is precluded under the provisions of House Bill 2241, because once the video tape is made, that child cannot thereafter be called for cross examination In Court. This 3111 is clearly unconstitutional. Now, the prior version that the Sponsor has referred to was written, was drafted by the Criminal Law Committee of the Chicago Bar Association made up of defense counsel of prosecutors. It is very constitutional. It's been upheld in Texas which has similar legislation."
"Mr. Preston, could you bring your remarks to a close?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'm sorry. I think the Sponsor is extremely well intended, but this 8111 is a very bad concept. It hurts the children that it's designed to help. And for that reason, I urge you to please vote 'no' on 2241."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill, pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Black to explain his vote."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I didn't get an opportunity to close. I think the question, Ladies and Gentlemen, is whether the trauma that Representative Preston refers to, refers to the trauma of cross 155 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 examination which is going to take place anyway, if 1 have any understanding of the law, or whether 2241, which would allow that trauma to at least be in Chambers and on video tape of cross examination, is a better way to go. I have absolutely no quarrel with Representative Preston. All I am attempting to do, and I urge your support. is to get a Bill that the Governor can sign so that we can begin the process of eliminating that trauma of a child having to testify in open Court."
"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk, shall take the record. On this question, there are 48 'ayes'. 55 *nos". The Bill fails. On the same Order, there appears House Bill 2721, Mr. Daley. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2721. a Bill for an Act in relation to the offense of aggravated battery of a senior citizen. This Bill's been read a Second Time previously. No Committee Amendments."
"Mr. Clerk, is the Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"The Bill's on Second Reading."
"Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Daley and Homer."
"Mr. Daley."
"Thank you, ΜΓ. Speaker. Amendment #1, it deletes from the Bill the provisions which would have made the new offense subject to mandatory transfer provisions of the Juvenile Act. As a result, a minor charged with a new offense of aggravated battery of the senior citizen would be tried in juvenile court rather than adult court. I'd be happy to answer any questions."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill... let's strike the 156 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 record. And Mr. Daley moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2721, a Bill for an Act in relation to the offense of aggravated battery of a senior citizen. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Daley on Third Reading."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 2721 creates a new offense of aggravated battery against a senior citizen and would provide... and would provide anyone who causes great bodily harm, permanent disability or disability to anyone over sixty, commits the offense that is a Class 2 felony. I'd ask for a favorable Roll Call and be happy to answer any questions."
"Mr. Johnson."
"Now as I understand it, I can't think of hardly anything that isn't aggravated battery. I thought we...I thought we changed the law last year or sometime to provide that a normal battery, if it was against a senior citizen, was an aggravated battery. Didn't we do that?"
"Mr. Daley."
"As to the... Representative, what Bill... as to the law last year or this?"
"I thought if you did a normal battery on a senior citizen, it became an aggravated battery. I thought that's what the law was now. Or is what you're saying... you tell me if I am wrong, that we, yes, we did do that last year, but what this does. Is it elevates that kind of an aggravated battery from a Class 3 felony to a Class 2 felony. Is that what we are doing?" 157 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"It is presently a Class 3. We are raising it to a Class 2."
"Well, on a senior citizen. Is that right?"
"Correct."
"Well, you know, I really hate to do this, but I think everybody ought to realize what we are going to be doing now. The litany is just beginning with this Bill. A few years ago the law was, if you committed a battery, and it was on a very narrow category, mainly a battery against a policeman or when you basically tried to dismember somebody, then it became an aggravated battery. So then the flood gates opened. We made it an aggravated battery if you sneezed in the presence of a park district employee. And then we have a battery in a public place. And we expanded bat... a normal battery, which is an offensive touching, which means you brush against somebody in a park, to include everything. Representative Cullerton and Slater and myself and others have tried to bring some sanity to the law by saying that aggravated battery ought to be a limited number of categories. Namely, where you cause serious bodily harm to somebody, or perhaps you do it against a policeman or a fireman in the line of duty where other lives could be jeopardized. But we've got such a laundry list of offenses that are aggravated battery that go from being a misdemeanor to a Class 3 felony, that it's just endless. Now, with this Bill, and I know it is well intended, what we are doing is we're saying when you commit an aggravated battery against a senior citizen, that's more of an offense. More of an offense. A longer penitentiary term than when you commit that same offense against a policeman or a fireman or when you do serious bodily harm to somebody. So now, just so you'll all be ready, what's going to happen is, every group in the world that's now 158 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day covered under the Hay 22. 1987 Aggravated Battery Statute, that's a Class 3 felony. As If, you know ten years in the penitentiary or whatever isn't bad enough is going to come in here, the park district employees, the people who walk in a public place, firemen and policemen. perhaps legitimately, every other group in the world. I wish I had the Statute. Darren have you got that file here, So 1 could give you the whole list of categories that's included under aggravated battery? It's unbelievable. It's going to come in now, to make it a Class 2 felony. And a Class 2 felony, as If we don't... that's a penitentiary term of three to seven years. So you might as well get ready. Representative Cullerton, I know where you are, those of the others who are concerned about this. But, belleve me, this is just the beginning. Because we are going to spend the next ten years with every group who thinks if you offensely bump against them in a park or sneeze In their presence that they deserve special protection. They not only already have special protection by making that a felony. now we are going to elevate It to a Class 2 felony. I know Representative Daley is well Intended in this regard, but you just don't realize what you are doing by opening up this 'Pandora's Box'. Let me just read for you, some of the offenses that are aggravated batteries. Well It's too long... virtually everything you could possible ever do becomes an aggravated battery under Illinois Law. And, the other ramification is, collectively this is a whole lot more penitentiary time. And collectively that means we are going to have to build two or three new prisons. I guess people on this side of the aisle, as long as we have the patronage system in our favor, should probably be in favor of two or three new penitentiary systems. Because then we can, you know. do 159 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 good political things in our area. But on the other side of the aisle, you could do that too. So it's sort of betting on the come, in that respect."
"Mr. Johnson... Mr. Johnson."
"The ramifications of this Bill, are really substantial, you ought to be really careful before you elevate this to a Class 2 felony, because it's something that there is absolutely no stopping once we let the locomotive out of the engine block."
"Mr. Countryman, could you be brief, Sir?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I will and I won't repeat what my seatmate has said. But I stand in opposition to this Bill. This makes the violation a non-probational Class 2 felony. Representative McCracken said to me earlier, you know, what happens is sometimes they charge aggravated battery when they should charge attempted murder. We've got the laws on the books; we don't need this Bill. I have the greatest respect for the Sponsor. but I recommend a 'no' vote. This Bill is just not needed. All it will do is load up the penitentiaries. Thank you."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Johnson."
"I really hate to do this, but I.... before I open these flood gates, I'm going to verify this. With all due respect, we just can't let this pass. I'm going to verify If it gets to sixty votes."
"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 58 'ayes', and 53 'nos'. The Bill having failed to receive a Constitutional 160 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hay 22, 1987 Majority, is hereby declared lost and shall be placed on the Order of Postponed Consideration. On the same Order of Call, there appears House Bill 1206 on page 17 of the Calendaг. Hr. Goforth. Ar. Goforth."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, back in about 1949 this General Assembly took the State Police out of patronage which was one of the best things that ever happened to the State Police. As a result of that, I was privileged to spend 26 years of my life on that force. At the same time in your great wisdom, you also appointed a merit board to make sure that this stayed In effect. The intent of this Bill is to keep the Merit Board separated from the State Police like It was really originally intended. Now I think I have talked to almost every Member on this, so we'll make it short. Please give me all your support. Thank you."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1206., a Bill for an Act in relation to the Department of State Police. Third Reading of the B111."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 111 'ayes', 1 person voting "no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On page 2 of the Calendar there appears House Bill 1302. Representative Williams. Mr. Williams. House Bill 1302. Page 2 of the Calendar. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 8111 1302, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Controlled Substance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Hr. Williams." 161 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Yes. House Bill... Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1302 makes it a criminal offense, a Class 4 felony, for anyone who is in actual control of a building to allow the building to be used for either the manufacture or distribute or sell of drugs. Basically, it is an attempt to try to prevent what we would call 'drug houses' that exist in our area. It's a first step, it's a good step, and I believe that it deserves passage. I hereby move for its adoption."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 115 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On the same Order on page 10 appears House Bill 1937. Mr. Ewing. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1937, a Bill for an Act to amend the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Ewing."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill will prohibit lenders who are making a loan which will be secured by property which will become the borrowers residence from requiring that that borrower buy title insurance from the lending institution. The borrower and the seller will have the right to buy title insurance from whomever they wish. And this will prohibit the borrower from requiring that they borrow it. buy it from their company or some specific company." I would ask for its approval."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those 162 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 In favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The Clerk shall take the record. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 "ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority Is hereby declared passed. On page 19 of the Calendar... On page 6 of the Calendar there appears House Bill 1000 by Mr. Daniels. Mr. Clerk, read the BI11."
"House B111 1000, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Bank Holding Company Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I believe most people in the chamber knows what House Bill 1000 does. It does exactly the same as Senate Bill 990 that came out of the Senate yesterday by a vote of 51 to 5 with the exception of the date. This Bill has a trigger date for nationwide interstate banking of October 1, 1988. I have talked to the Illinois Bankers Association and have advised them that we will continue to discuss the appropriate trigger date and with that understanding they are willing to support the Bill in its current fashion with continuing discussion. And. I ask for your favorable support."
"Mr. Piel."
"Thank you. Μг. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill in its present form is not probably what you are going to see as the Bill in its final form. Or it might be. But, the... all the parties involved have been In long discussions. It might be President Rock's Bill is the final one decided on, it might be this one. 3ut in discussions today, the Illinois Bankers Association are 163 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 willing to continue the talks and what we want to do is get the Bill over to the Senate, so both Bills will be in the same posture so all the parties involved can continue their discussions. And I would ask for a favorable Roll Call on House Bl11 1000."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?" Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye' those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question. there are 72 ayes', 30 'nos". This Bill having received a Constitutional Hajority is hereby declared passed. On page 19 of the Calendar there appears House Bill 2804. Hr. Hays. Hr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bi11?"
"The Bill is on Second Reading. It's been read a Second Time previously."
"The Bill is on which Order, Sir?"
"The B111 is on Third Reading."
"The Bill is now on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Hays."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would like to take the 8111 out of the record at this time."
"Fine. The Bil1 shall be taken out of the record. On the Subject Matter of Banking, there is House Bill 475, Mr. Piel. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 475, ...
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House B111 475 amends the Banking Act and what it does is if... probably the best way to describe it would be to give you an example. If holding Company A buys holding Company B. Under the present law holding Company A has five facilities already. And holding Company B already has 164 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hay 22, 1987 five. They would have to close five facilities under the present law. And what this basically does is stating that if a holding company buys another holding company what they are doing they are also buying the rights involved with that present holding company. Now you have heard probably some people oppose the Bill because of, you know, the situation of different... expanding their powers. Let me tell you, there is a lot of small town banks, small towns in Southern Illinois that have one bank. If their holding company is purchased, that Bank might be closed in that small town. And thats what basically the genesis of this Bill is for, is so we would not have potential closures of present facilities if another Bank were to purchase them. And, I would ask for the passage of House Bill 475."
"Mr. Countryman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a Parliamentary Inquiry. House Bill 475, I believe constitutes branch banking and therefore under Article 8. Section 8 of the Illinois Constitution of 1970, would require a three-fifths majority. Would you tell me if the Chair is in concurrence with my judgement?"
"The Parliamentarian will respond."
"On behalf of the Speaker and in accordance with Section 8 of Article 13 of the Constitution it will take three... it is branch banking and will take three-fifths of those voting on the issue or sixty, whichever is greater."
"Mr. Countryman."
"As I understood the Parliamentarian, he said it would take three-fifths or sixty, whichever is greater. So that would mean three-fifths?"
"Of those voting, Mr. Countryman."
"Of those voting. Not of the Members."
"The 'present' vote is of significance." 165 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Thank you."
May 22, 1987 "Ladies and Gentlemen are we prepared for the Roll Call? Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? On this question there are 85 'ayes and 22 'nos', 9 voting present', 2 people not voting. This Bill having received the Constitutionally prescribed three-fifths vote is hereby declared passed. On page 33 of the Calendar on the Order of Senate Bills Third Reading there appears Senate Bill 219, Mr. O'Connell. Mr. O'Connell."
"Senate Bill 219, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the bill."
"Mr. O'Connell."
"Mr. Speaker, may I return this ... have leave to return this to Second Reading for purposes of Amendments?"
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading."
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative O'Connell."
"Mr. O'Connell."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I would like to withdraw Amendment #1."
"Amendment #1 shall be withdrawn."
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative O'Connell."
"Mr. O'Connell."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 was an Amendment that was worked up between the principals of the Medical Society and Staff to clarify certain technical errors that were in the original Bill. It's an agreed upon Amendment with the Medical Society and I would ask for its favorable adoption." 166 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have It. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No Further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 219, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Is there leave to hear the Bill on the order of Third Reading? Leave is granted. Mr. O'Connell."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the compromise Bill that the Medical Society and the individual lawyers groups agreed upon for this term of the General Assembly. It would reduce the number of years in which a plaintiff may bring a malpractice case on injury to a child from the current law, which is 22 years, to reduction to 8 years. As I indicated it is a compromise position. We feel it goes a long way toward reducing the insurance costs for the medical profession. And I would be happy to answer any questions."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 117 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears Senate Bill 243. Mr. Terzich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Senate Bill 243, a Bill for an Act in relation to Regulation and Practice of Medicine. Third Reading of the Bill." 167 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Mr. Terzich?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 243 rewrites the Medical Practice Act. Rewrites with modifications in addition to Medical Practice Act and It creates the Medical Licensing Board. Establishes new standards of education to take effect 1/1/88. And It Increases the fees and authorizes the Department of Registration to impose buying up to $5,000. This is a ... the agreed Bill with the Medical Society and I would appreciate your support."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 116 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. Subject matter, Pensions. For what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I Just wanted to let Representative McCracken know that at this stage of the process he knows which Bills are being called before I do. So he should feel pretty good about that."
"Mr. McCracken. On the Order of Pensions on page 20 of the Calendar there appears House Bill 2224, Mr. Hallock. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2224 ..."
"The Bill shall be taken from the record. House Bill 2710, Mr. Capparelli. 2710, Mr. Capparelli. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"House Bill 2710, appears on Second Reading, page 28 of the Calendar."
"We're on page 20 of the Calendar, Mr. Clerk." 168 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"There are no Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representatives Harris and McCracken."
"Mr. Harris. Mr. Harris?"
"Leave to withdraw Amendment #1."
"Amendment #1 shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representatives McAuliffe and Harris."
"Mr. McAuliffe. Withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2710, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Capparelli."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2710 at the present time amends the Fire and Policemens Pension Code. It will be a vehicle. I do ask for a ... do Motion 'do pass'."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' The Chair recognizes Mr. Harris."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I second what the Representative said. That we have agreed to withdraw our Amendments on these Bills to keep them clean so that they would be vehicle Bills. And I would urge an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 103 'ayes', 7 people 169 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 voting "no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. House Bill 2711, Mr. McGann. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 41, offered by ..."
"Mr. McGann, is it your intention to withdraw all the Amendments?"
"Yes. That is right, Mr. Speaker."
"Alright. Is there leave to withdraw all of the Amendments? Leave is granted. The Amendments shall be withdrawn. Place the Bill on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2711, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McGann?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the Assembly. Senate ... House Bill 2711 amends the Chicago Municipal Labors and Park Districts and we are going to send it over to the Senate as a vehicle for future work. And I would appreciate your support."
"Mr. Harris."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I would second what the Gentleman said and would recommend an 'aye' vote because this Bill will be used as a vehicle."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 107 'ayes', 3 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. House Bill 2712, Mr. Wolf. Mrs. 170 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Second Reading."
"Mr. Wolf. Mr. Wolf." Hay 22, 1987 "Amendment #1 by Representative Harris."
"Mr. Wolf, is the plan to withdraw all Amendments?"
"Yes, Sir, it is."
"Fine. Is there leave to withdraw all Amendments? Leave is granted. The Amendments are withdrawn. The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2712, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"On Third Reading. Mr. Wolf."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I simply move for passage of House Bill 2712."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 'ayes', 2 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. House Bill 2713, Mr. Terzich."
"This Bill has been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Harris."
"Is there leave to withdraw all of the Amendments? Leave is granted. The Amendments shall be withdrawn. The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2713, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 171 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
May 22, 1987 "The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor ... Mr. Terzich? Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 98 'ayes', 3 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. House Bill 2714. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Second Reading with Amendments."
"Is there leave to withdraw all Amendments? Leave is granted. The Amendments are withdrawn. The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Saltsman."
"House Bill 2714, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Saltsman."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I ask for passage of this Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye'. those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 109 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. House Bill 2715, Mr. Holf. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Second Reading with Floor Amendments."
"Mr. Clerk, this Bill is on Second Reading?"
"Second Reading with Floor Amendments."
"Is there leave to withdraw all Amendments? Leave is granted. The Amendments are withdrawn. Place the Bill on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the 172 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEЗАТЕ May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day Bill." Clerk O°3rien: "House Bill 2715, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the B111."
"Mr. Wolf."
"Mr. Speaker. I move for passage of House Bil1 2715."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting *no*. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 106 'ayes', 1 person voting "no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the Special Call Sunset there appears House B111 1045. Mr. DeLeo. Hr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1045, a Bill for an Act in relation to Pharmacies. Third Reading of the 8111."
"Mr. DeLeo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1045, there's been considerable debate on it. This Bill makes a number of changes in the Pharmacy Act as requested by the Illinois Pharmacy Association. Under this Bill a Pharmacist located in Chicago may fill or refill 3 valid prescription or file in a Pharmacy in any other State transferred by means of Electronic Data Processing Equipment. Included in this authority are a number of safeguards to help prevent abuse of Controlled Substances Act. It also increases the number of members of the State Board of Pharmacy from 7 to 9 and requires 7 registered pharmacists and 2 public members of the Board. I ask for a favorable Roll Call. This will bring the Pharmacy in Illinois into the 20th Century. I would be glad to answer any questions. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"Those in favor of the passage of the B111 signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no'. 173 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Have all voted who wish? Have all1 voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 116 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order, on page 8 of the Calendar there appears House Bill 1428. This Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk has this Bill been read a second time?"
"House B111 1428. The Bill has been read a second time."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"No Committee or Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1428. a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Illinois Nursing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Hr. Krska." Krska: MI move the adoption of House Bill 1428. It's a rewrite of the Nursing Act. It is a shell 3ill and I would like to see this passed out so that we can have something that the Senate is going to send over here similar to this."
"Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 101 'ayes', 2 people voting "no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Hajority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1429 on Page 8 of the Calendar. Mr. Krska. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"No Committee or Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House B111 1429, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Physicians Assistance Practice Act. Third 174 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Reading of the dill." "Mr. Krska." ... 14 ... May 22, 1987
"This also House Bill 1429 also is a shell Bill which we want to work out Amendments on it to bring into a full compliance Bill. I'd like the passage of this Bill."
"Those in favor of the assage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 110 'ayes 1 person voting 'no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed", On the same Order there appears House Bill 1430 on page 8 of the Calendar. Mr. Krska? The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"No Committee or floor Amendments."
Clerk O'Brien: for "Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." "House Bill 1430, a B111 an Act to amend sections of the Illinois Optometric Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill." "Mr. Krska?"
"Alright. House Bill 1430 also is a shell Bill which we want to work out with Amendments to bring it into full compliance. I would like to pass this Bill out of the
House. Speaker Madigan: "Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 110 'ayes' For what purpose does Mr. Bowman seek recognition?" ...
"Just to recommend we take the next 5 on one Roll Call." Speaker Madigan: *Thank you. On this question there are 110 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no". This Bill having received a 175 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. The Chair recognizes Mr. Giorgi for the purpose of an announcement. Mr. Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, just to take a break for a moment. I would like to announce that in our Chamber to the right in the Gallery are the parents of Veronica Lynch, our Director of Research and Appropriation. Mr. & Mrs. Lynch, Bob Lynch and Mary Lynch. Veronica's parents."
"On the Order of Sunset there appears House Bill 1431, Mr. Krska, on page 8 of the Calendar. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"No Committee or Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1431, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of an Act to regulate the Practice of Podiatry in the State of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Krska?"
"House Bill 1431 also is a shell Bill which we want to work out with Amendments and come into full compliance. I would like an 'aye' vote."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 108 'ayes', 2 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1432, Mr. Krska. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1432, a Bill for an Act to amend the Pharmacy Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Krska?"
"House Bill 1445 is a rewrite of the Pharmacy ... pardon me ... House Bill 1432 is a rewrite of the Pharmacy 176 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Practice Act which is similar to 1045 except that 1432 has a sunset date of December 31, 1987."
"Mr. Churchill?"
"I move for the adoption."
"Mr. Churchill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. It is my understanding that the Bill is not in its final form. Will the Sponsor agree to have it amended in the Senate to reflect the agreements between the Department of Registration and Education. the Illinois Pharmacists Association and the Retail Merchants?"
"Yes."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 110 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Hajority Is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1433, Mr. Krska. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"No Committee or Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House B111 1433, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Administrators Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Krska?"
"House B111 1433 is also a shell Bill which we'd like to work out and put on the various Amendments to make it in full compliance. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On 177 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 this question there are 107 'aye', 1 person voting 'no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1434, Mr. Krska. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"This Bill has been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Krska."
"Mr. Krska?"
"I leave to withdraw Amendment #1."
Speaker Madigan "The Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Krska."
"Mr. Krska?"
"Amendment #2 rewrites the Psychological Registration Act of 1963. Replaces it with a newly created Clinical Psychologist Licensure Act which shall sunset December 31, 1987. It has been agreed upon ... or pardon me ... 1997. It has been agreed upon by both sides."
Speaker Madigan "Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye", those opposed 'no". The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is 'adopted'. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1434, a Bill for an Act to amend the Psychologist Registration Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Krska."
"Alright. Everyone heard the explanation of the Bill. I move for passage of House Bill 1434."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 116 'aye', no one voting 'no". 178 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 This B111 having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed'. On the same Order there appears House BJ11 1435, Mr. Krska. Are there any Amendments?"
"No Committee or Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 8111 1435, a Bill for an Act to amend the Social Horkers Registration Act. Third Reading of the B111="
"Mr. Krska?"
"House Bill 1435 is a shell Bill which we will work out with Amendments. I would appreciate an 'aye vote."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye'. those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 111 ... 110 ayes". On this question there are 110 'ayes", 1 person voting "no". This 8111 having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed". On the Order of Education there appears ars House Bill 126. This will appear on page 14 of the Calendar. The Bill is sponsored by Mr. Ewing. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 126, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Hr. Ewing."
"Hr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill changes the terminology for the rating standards for teachers under the Education Reform Act we passed a year ago. And the new standards under this Bill, the teacher would either meet the standards of the district, exceed the standards of the district, or fail to meet the standards of the district. And these take the place of the words such as 'excellent', 'superior', which caused a great deal of concern among a number of teachers. I would be glad to 179 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 answer any questions. I think this has wide support among administrators and among teachers."
"Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 111 'ayes', no one voting 'no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. Let the record show that Mr. Parke had intended to vote 'aye' on that Bill. On the same Order there appears House Bill 669. Mr. White. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 669, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. White."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 669 is a Physical Education Bill sponsored by ... or supported by the IEA, the Chicago Teachers Union and the State Board of Education is in support of this piece of legislation. It does several things. It helps to identify athletes who are on the varsity team. It gives local school boards the opportunity or the right to have flexibility in their health program. They could teach Health Education from the 9th to the 12th grades. And that's basically the Bill."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 103 'ayes', 10 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order on page 14 of the Calendar there appears House Bill 915, Mr. Mulcahey. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 180 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 44th Legislative Day May 12, 1987 Second Reading appears House Bill 514. Mr. Clerk... Mr. Williams. Out of the record. Alright. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 515. Mr. Brunsvold. Out of the record. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 521. Mr. McCracken, did you wish to proceed? 521. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 521..."
"Special Order of Business, but I'll go now. If you wish, its on Wednesday's Special Call. Should I go now? Okay."
"House Bill 521, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Are there any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 522. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 522, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal..."
"Excuse me. Mr. Clerk. Mr. Parke. Okay. Mr. Clerk, now read the Bill."
"House Bill 522, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. On the order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 523. Mr. McCracken. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 523, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." 180 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"House B111 915. a 8111 for an Act to amend Sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Mulcahey."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bi11 915, as amended. deletes the scheduled August 1, 1987 repeal of the State Aid Formula Provision. I move for the adoption of the legislation."
"Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted ho wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 112 'ayes', 3 people voting "no". This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 935, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 935, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Hr. Speaker and Hembers of the House. There are basically two provisions in House Bill 935. The first restores to the Board bonding authority for rehabilitation and deferred maintenance on school buildings, that authority which was taken away in 1984. This proposal has the support of the Chicago School Finance Authority. The second part of the Bill Is a proposal from the Chicago Panel on School Finance and it creates a three year Pilot Project in School Autonomy within each individual district within the purview of the Chicago Board of Education. I would be happy to answer your questions and I would appreciate your support for House B111 935."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?" Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who 181 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 72 'ayes', 41 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1176, Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1176, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Flowers."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. One minute ... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1176 (sic House Bill 1176) amends the School Code. Provides that in the Calendar year of 1986 and thereafter that the Property Tax Extension would be for the ... would go to the Chicago Board of Education and I urge for the passage of House Bill 1176."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. McCracken?"
"Oh, I pushed the wrong button. My apologies."
"Okay. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 64 'ayes', 46 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1365, Mr. Turner. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1365, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Turner. Mr. Young? Mr. Young."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1365 amends the School Code and it Increases the percent of a tax levy within the Chicago 182 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 School District for supervised playground purposes. I move for its passage."
"Mr. Hoffman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This legislation is as the Sponsor Indicated, a tax Increase for the playground. It goes from 6% to actually 6 mils to 8 mils on the value of property equalized and assessed by the Department of Revenue. I think it's Important that you know what's Involved here."
"The question Is. 'Shall ... The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. White to explain his vote."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Is the Lighted Schoolhouse Approach. It's a simple Bill. What we're trying to do is keep the parks, the playgrounds open so that the young people can stay out of harms way. You know we have a lot of problems in Chicago with regard to gang related activities. This is one approach to resolving that problem. And I urge you to put some 'green' votes up there for us. Thank you."
"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Bowman to explain his vote. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 61 'ayes', 48 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1446, Mr. Giorgi. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1446, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning Fees and Salaries. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, House Bill 1446 increases the salaries of 183 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Regional Superintendents by $5,000 a year. I urge Its support."
"The question is, "Shall this Bill pass?' The Chair recognizes Representative Cowlishaw."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Sponsor yields."
"Perhaps there was an Amendment to this Bill that I was unaware of. I thought this increased their salaries by $15,000."
"You're correct. The Amendment dropped it to $5,000."
"Okay. But they ... this increases the salary of every Regional Superintendent of Schools throughout the State by $5,000."
"There are 57 Regional Superintendents."
"It increases all of their salaries by $5,000 a year."
"That is correct."
"Thank you."
"Mr. Churchill?"
"Am I mistaken, Mr. Speaker? Is there an Amendment on this Bill?"
"Mr. Clerk, is there an Amendment to the Bill?"
"Amendment #1 has been adopted."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 60 'ayes', 48 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. The Chair would ask all unauthorized personnel to leave the Floor. Lobbyists are not authorized to be on the Floor. For what purpose does Mr. Martinez seek 184 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker. I rise on a point of personal privilege. I would like to introduce the eighth grade class from St. Procopius School in my District and their teachers, Dave Larovitz, Thomas Phelts and Fadeo Cardinez. Would the Members please give me ... help me to give a warm welcome to them."
"On the same Order there appears House Bill 1484, Representative Doederlein. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1484, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Doederlein."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1484 provides for special procedures for DCFS when they investigate reports of suspected abuse or neglect by teachers or school administrators at a school or on school grounds. The language of this Bill was worked out by all the parties concerned. And I recommend its adoption."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Dunn."
"Quick question. Are the teachers in favor of this?"
"IEA is, yes."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 109 'ayes', 5 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. The Chair recognizes ... Let the record show that Mr. Wait has attempted to 185 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 change his vote to 'aye'. The Chair recognizes Mr. Stephens."
"I was wondering how the Sponsor voted on that Bill?"
"Representative Doederlein?"
"Mr. Speaker. May I vote for my own Bill?"
"Representative, I don't think you should be subjected to that humiliation so the Clerk shall dump the Roll Call and we'll take a new Roll Call. The question is. 'Shall House Bill 1484 pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Turner. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 114 'ayes', 3 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 1793, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1793, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1793 would permit the Chicago Board of Education to continue having the wherewithal to pay for operation and maintenance of school buildings now leased from the Public Building Commission, even as leases on those buildings expire. I would be happy to answer your questions and appreciate your support for House Bill 1793."
"The question is. Shall this Bill pass?" Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Cullerton to explain his vote."
"Yes. I have a file here and I'm reading the 186 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 analysis. It indicates that this Bill, if I understand it correctly. Perhaps Representative Currle should mention this when she explains her vote. It says the Board of Education will no longer be authorized to levy a property tax. So, I know it's not a tax increase. Some people may have been confused. It's not a tax increase. If I read it correctly it denies them the right to levy a property tax. Is that correct, Representative Currie?"
"Representative Currie."
"It Is not a property tax increase. Representative. It does permit the Board to continue levying taxes that they now use to operate and maintain school buildings leased from the Public Building Commission. Those leases are soon to expire. The question is how will the Board pay for the operation and maintenance of those buildings, costs presently incurred by the Board, costs they presently pay out of property tax levles. This would only ensure that they are still able to levy for precisely the same purposes that they are levying for today. So it is not a property tax Increase and without passage of this Bill, they will not be able to maintain these buildings that they will own when these leases expire. This is only for the Chicago Board of Education and it only affects their capacity to operate and maintain buildings that they now operate and maintain. Without passage of this Bill, they wi11 be unable to do the work they're doing for maintenance and operations under the current terms of their lease agreements."
"Have al all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 54 ayes, 57 'nos'. This Bill having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'lost'. House Bill 2190, 187 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Representative Braun. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2190, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Braun."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill simply requires that citizenship be taught in the schools. It also has an Amendment put on by Representative Deuchler which increases the GED fees by $5. I encourage your support."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 95 'ayes'. 17 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 2364. Representative Doederlein. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2364, a Bill for an Act requiring immunization screening in post secondary educational Institutions. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Doederlein."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I ask leave to bring back House Bill 2364 for a technical Amendment."
"Place the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Doederlein."
"Representative Doederlein."
"Amendment #2 inserts the word 'shall' on page 3 line 9, after the word 'Department'."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those against say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is 188 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 'adopted'. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments." May 22, 1987
"Place the Bill on the Order of Third Reading. Is there leave to hear the B111 on the Order of Third Reading? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2364. a B111 for an Act requiring Immunization screening in post secondary educational institutions. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Doederlein."
"House Bill 2364 provides that no person shall attend the public or a private post secondary educational institution without presenting proof that he has received such immunizations against preventable communicable diseases as are required by the rules of the Department of Public Health."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed ... Representative Didrickson?"
"Will the Sponsor yield for a question, please?"
"She yields."
"What kind of communicable diseases are we talking about here?"
"I'm sorry, I can't hear."
"What kind of communicable diseases are we taking about here? What kind of presentation do we have to have?"
"Well, there's mumps and measles and all those that are required by the Department."
"An AIDS test? Would that qualify?"
"I don't think that's in the records yet."
"Is that a communicable disease? When that does get In there would that be?"
"Immunization ..."
"If you're 34 years old do I have to do that to go to 139 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day college?"
"I'm sorry?"
"I guess I'm a little confused on what the intent is. And I just think there's some questions that ought to be raised."
"We've had so many cases of mumps and measles at the college level and ..."
"You're trying to get at the concern that has been raised with regards to mumps, measles?"
"If you're over 30 years old you don't have to have the immunization."
"If you're over 30? So if you're 29 you would. Okay. How about Herpes? Is that included in there? Is that a communicable disease? How many tests. I mean how many ..."
"This is the same thing as ... this is the same thing as you would when you begin school."
"To get into kindergarten also? Well, I don't want to take the time on the Floor, I just thought those questions ought to be raised."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by saying 'aye' ... voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 98 'ayes', 14 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. House Bill 2384, Mr. Slater. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2384, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Slater?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Leave to remove ... Leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for an 190 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Amendment, please." May 22, 1987
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Slater and Anthony Young."
"Mr. Slater?"
"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #4 simply clarifies our intent that the City of Chicago is excluded from the provisions of this legislation. I move its adoption."
"Mr. Matijevich."
"Well, I guess I probably should wait until Third Reading because I think this is a bad Bill and I've been asked by the Illinois Association of School boards to speak against it and I think they're right. I'll wait until Third then."
"Mr. Hoffman?"
"Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment ... This Amendment takes the City of Chicago out of the Bill. Now, if the Bill is as the previous speaker said, is a bad Bill, then it ought to be equally bad for everyone. We shouldn't have some of the largest school district in this State, which takes 33% of the General Distributing Fund for their own use as 22% of the student population. has 597 buildings in that one school district and say that that doesn't apply to you. If it applies to Toulon, it ought to apply to Chicago. And I oppose this Amendment and ask you to do the same thing."
"Ladies and Gentlemen there are 4 people seeking recognition ... 3 people seeking recognition. The Bill is now on the Order of Second Reading. There is an Amendment filed and I have in front of me a request for a Fiscal Note. So, if the Amendment is adopted then there is a request for a Fiscal Note. The Chair might suggest that 191 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the proponents of this Bill may wish to regroup. Mr. Slater?"
"Mr. Speaker, I would request that the Body act on the Amendment and thereafter, depending on the outcome, I will make a Motion relative to the Fiscal Note."
"Yes, Sir. We are now on the question of the Amendment. Mr. Hoffman, do you wish to speak again? Fine. On the Amendment, Mr. Young."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of the Amendment. It's clear the Sponsors' intention in this Bill was not for it to apply to the City of Chicago. This Bill deals with recall of when an elected school districts, Chicago has an appointed school district. It also calls for recall after 5% or more of the registered voters have signed a petition. Such a petition requirement in the City of Chicago would call for about 60 to 70,000 signatures. The only thing this Amendment does, is clarify the Sponsors intent. I move for its adoption."
"On the Amendment the Chair recognizes Representative Pullen."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If there is anywhere in the State where someone other than the voters themselves should be able to recall school board members because of incompetence, it is where they are not elected by the people to begin with, the City of Chicago. And yet this Amendment would seek to restrict the Bill to have someone other than the voters remove school board members for incompetence in only places where the voters have elected school board members. This is a wrong Amendment. It should be completely the other way around if the Bill had any merit at all, which I don't think it does. And I urge the defeat of the Amendment." 192 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Mr. Matijevich."
"Mr. Speaker, I wasn't going to speak on the Amendment but I'm going to ask my friends in Chicago because I can see that they're trying to exclude you to get your votes. And I'm going to ask my friends in Chicago, I don't think you believe in recall like I do. So, I urge my friends in Chicago to join me against this Amendment. I think throughout 21 years my votes with Chicago have been very good."
"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 39 'ayes', 70 'no'. The Amendment 'fails'. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. And I put the Bill on the Order of Third Reading because the Fiscal Note had related to the Bill as amended. Mr. Johnson."
"I don't know. I suppose the Sponsor can make the Motion. I guess I can too. I would move that the House declare the Fiscal Note Act inapplicable to this Bill."
"Mr. Johnson, the question is moot."
"Okay, I'm sorry."
"I think the question is moot."
"I should be mute more often too."
"Well, you said that now. The Bill is now on Third Reading. Mr. Slater, what is your pleasure?"
"Call the Bill."
"Okay. Mr. Clerk, has the Bill been read a third time?"
"House Bill 2384, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 193 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day
"Mr. Slater."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What House Bill 2384 does, is provide a mechanism for voter input. A means whereby people in the community can have a say on whether or not a school board member has been incompetent, has been derelict in his duty and has willfully failed to perform his activities as a school board member. In early conversations on this Bill with the Illinois School Board, they were concerned about due process. And we provided for a hearing through this procedure. They were concerned about notice and we provided for notice to an affected school board member through this process. They were also concerned about the right to counsel. All those things are provided for in this 3ill at this point in time. What we've got to remember is, that we have in the laws of this State of Illinois right now, statutory language which says that a School Regional Superintendent can remove a school board member for willful failure to perform his duties. And what we are doing right now, is providing a mechanism whereby the people who are affected, the voters who live in that district may have access to that process. We just voted an increase of $5,000 for Regional Superintendents of Schools. That may not be enough. They may be back here for more. They need something to do in some cases. And this is something for them to do."
"Ladies and Gentlemen. We would like to move expeditiously."
"But quite serlously, this is a chance for input from the local level. On the point that was raised by the last Amendment, It was the intent of this legislation as it was filed, and it is legislative intent as I am establishing right now, that this apply only in situations where there are elected school board members. That it would not apply 194 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEHBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 In appointed positions. Chicago has an appointed school board. I urge the adoption... I urge the passage of this
Bill. Speaker Madigan: "Alright. let's turn off Mr. Slater. He would like to move expeditiously. Mr. Slater has spoken for the Bill. The Chair would like to take one opponent to the Bill and then go to Roll Call and let the others explain their vote. And, we'll let Mr. Matijevich rise as the opponent to the Bill. Mr. Matijevich."
"Hr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Now I ask my friends in North... in Chicago and downstate to join me in opposition. I've always considered Representative Slater and Cullerton and Johnson as sort of my experts in the matter of protection of civil rights and protecting citizens. I think this Is a very dangerous precedent because what is incompetent to one, may not be incompetence to another. And this matter of recall unfortunately very often hinges on emotional issues rather than substance. I don't like to think for example, that if we're going to start this trend that the next trend may be that we have some recall provisions as to Regional Superintendent of Schools or other public officials because of the danger of one issue type of... one issue judgements. So I think many of you feel like I do, so rather than prolong this I would urge a resounding 'no' vote on this Bill. Representative Slater has so many good Bills. But I don't put this one in that category."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no'. Mr. Curran to explain his vote."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of House Bill 2384. I don't see the danger. And frankly with all due respect to the Gentleman who killed the earlier Amendment, 195 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DЕЗАТЕ 52nd Legislative Day I don't see the genuineness in his plea. danger in allowing citizens to ... May 22, 1987
I don't see the Speaker Madigan: "Mr. Curran. The Bill now has 67 'no' votes. I'm most anxious to listen to your position, now 71."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker."
"Representative Cowlishaw? Do you persist?
You're recorded as 'no'. Cowlishaw: "No, thank you. Mr. Speaker. without any help."
It's doing very well Speaker Madigan: "Okay. Can we just take the record? Fine, thank you. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are ... For what purpose does Mr. Giglio seek recognition? Just a second, Mr. Giglio."
"Mr. Speaker, would it be an imposition to introduce the graduating class of Lincoln School in my district up in the Gallery?"
"After I ... After I take the Roll Call, Mr. Giglio. On this question there are 37 'ayes', 70 'no's'. This Bill having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'lost'. Mr. Giglio, for the purpose of an announcement."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. These are 46 individuals who graduated from Lincoln School in my district. I'd like the people in the Gallery to give them a nice hand. Right up here in back of me."
"On the same Order there appears House Bill 2728, Mr. McCracken. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"This Bill is on Third Reading."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 2728, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McCracken." 196 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. written notice to May 22, 1987 This would require 5 days parents or guardians of pupils in kindergarten through 8th grade before a class or course In Sex Abuse Identification offered. And I move its passage."
"Those In ... Is The Chair recognizes Mr. Preston." "Thank you. Mr. Speaker. As much as I respect the Sponsor of this Bill, I rise in very strong opposition to It. This... we recently passed out legislation that would require this instruction in kindergarten through 8th grade. Not Just Instruction, but teaching children how to avoid abuse. What do you do in the situation of three parents of three students in a class of 30 or 40 students decide that they are not going to want their children to have this kind of education which may be in part, a part of the science curriculum, might be part of the physical education curriculum or the health curriculum, or the social studies curriculum. Are these three children to be sent to some other room, we know not where, and miss their instruction in health, or physical education, or science, or social studies? In that case these children might not even be eligible to graduate from their various courses ... or to pass their various courses. This completely negates the purpose of legislation designed to protect children From physical and sexual abuse by telling them what alternatives they may have.. Like telling a teacher, telling their physician, or telling their mother or father if they've been abused. This is bad legislation. As much as the Sponsor is well intended, I urge you to please vote 'no' on this Bill."
"Again Ladies and Gentlemen. We have two people seeking recognition. Could we proceed to Roll Call and recognize them to explain their vote? The question is, 197 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The Chair recognizes Mr. Regan to explain his vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In all due respect, 35% of the incest is actually by an actual parent. There's another 20% done by stepparents. I would suggest that the very strong possibility of those that object to this would be those that are abusing. I would sure appreciate 'no' votes."
"Representative Cowlishaw has withdrawn her request. And the Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 77 'ayes', 29 'no's'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order, House Bill 1093, Mr. Mulcahey. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Third Reading."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 1093, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Mulcahey."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1093 sets the following criteria regarding reclassification of principals. The school board establishes a written job description regarding performance objectives on principals and each year an individual Performance Objective Conference is held for the principal. Now if that Performance Evaluation Conference identifies problem areas or deficiencies based on the provisions of the job description, a written plan for improvement is provided to the principal. And if the deficiencies are not corrected, there's an administrative conference between the principal and the evaluator, the superintendent before any recommendation is made to the board. And also if the 198 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 principal requests, he or she is entitled to an executive session meeting with the school board. Now If the board is still determined to proceed with reclassification or not to renew the contract of the principal, the principal is given a written notice to that effect by April 1st. And the key, I think is that the notice to the principal includes a reason for reclassification or for nonrenewal and these reasons for reclassification or nonrenewal must be based on the principal's evaluation with the job description as the criteria for that particular evaluation. One other very important thing is in here is that the Bill does not preclude principals being ordered to accept lateral transfers to positions of similar rank and salary. The Bill does not preclude principals from being reclassified to reduce the number of principals within a school district. And I would move for the adoption of House Bill 1093."
"Representative Cowlishaw."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Que process protections are already provided in the law for everyone, including principals of schools. What this B111 provides In fact, is defacto tenure. Back in your own districts when you talk to people about education. what is one of the things that frequently is brought up about how we could improve the system of public education? I will tell you that most of your constituents say that they object to tenure. They object to anyone having a job that is protected to the point that if that person is not truly competent, there Is very little that can be done about that situation. Now we want to put principals Into that same kind of status. I would submit to you that in the private sector, when a person reaches a management kind of level and this is a management position. that person 199 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day then has to move forward and retain that position on the basis of performance. And if the performance is not there, the person understands that that's the risk you run when you reach this kind of position. A principal is in charge of that school. He is the captain of that ship. And as the captain, as the very top ranking person, he ought to be evaluated on the basis of his performance each and every year, just as the superintendent is evaluated by the school board each and every year. Principals are managers. As managers they receive salarles that are commensurate with that responsibility. They ought not to be provided with tenure. And Ladies and Gentlemen, that's what this is. This is a very bad concept. I am strongly opposed to it. And I urge your "no" vote."
"The Chair again would suggest we now go to Roll Call and recognize others to explain their vote. So the question is, 'Shall this 8111 pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no. The Chair recognizes Hr. Kirkland to explain his vote."
"Fine. The only problem at this point is that I have a couple of questions for the Sponsor and I want to ..."
Speaker Madigan "Well proceed to the questions, Mr. Kirkland."
"Alright, thank you. This Bill applies to reclassification and not dismissal. Is that correct?"
"And dismissal as well. Yes. Not renewal of contract."
"In the sense of reclassification, if a principal objects to an attempt at reclassification by a superintendent, how long can the process be stretched out, let's say first before it would go to court? Under your Bill, how long could he stretch out the process, if he simply all the way along says, 'I should not be reclassified'?" 200 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Well, If the person says he should not be reclassified based upon the job description of course, this Is that notice comes April Ist. And for that particular time the principal can proceed and do what he has to at that time. Including thase three or four points that I alluded to. Those three or four steps."
"If you go through those three or four steps, how long can that process take?" Mulcahey: ΠΙ really have no idea. The first three or four steps takes only a matter of a couple of months."
"Thank you."
"The Chair would point the attention of the Members to the current count on this Bil1. And there are two others seeking recognition. Do they persist? Hг. Brunsvold to explain his vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Mulcahey, is Amendment #1 on this Bill?"
"No, Amendment #1 is not on the Bill."
"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I would rise in support of Representative Mulcahey. Often times the way to dismiss a principal, or get rid of a principal is to start moving them around. Putting him in buildings that he doesn't want to be in, or for some reason he probably does not want to deal In that situation, so they put him in that building and they keep moving him around and in the end he has to qult. So, that's the way you get rid of a principal. And this simply guards his right in a due process situation and I stand in support of Representative Mulcahey."
"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Mulcahey."
"Mr. Speaker. I take offense at the Lady from the other side of the aisle talking in terms of my position on tenure. I think you all know how I stand on tenure. And I promised each and every one of you people that if this Bill 201 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 had any inkling at all, that it had any tenure involved, that I would throw it out the window. I didn't throw it out the window because there's no tenure in there. It's simply a job description provided to a principal and he's evaluated once a year on that job description. As it is today ... As it is today, he has no recourse whatsoever If the Superintendent of the Board of Education doesn't like the fact that he kicked Johnny out of school for two days and mommy and daddy complain enough to the school board, they can reclassify him. They don't even have to hire him back. He doesn't have any recourse. If they don't like the way he parts his hair, or the color of the tie he wears, they can get rid of a principal or reclassify him. It's got nothing to do with tenure. It's evaluation based upon job description. That simple."
"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 63 'ayes', 49 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority ... Mr. Rice wishes to be recorded as 'aye'. Mr. Young wishes to be recorded as 'aye'. Representative Davis wishes to be recorded as 'aye'. Mr. DeJaegher wishes to be recorded as 'aye'. Mr. Ryder wishes to be recorded as 'no'. So change Mr. Ryder from 'aye' to 'no'. Mr. Preston wishes to change from 'no' to 'aye'. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 67 'ayes', 49 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 795. Representative Flowers. Representative Flowers? Representative Flowers on House Bill 795. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Third Reading."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 795, a Bill for an Act relating to 202 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day certain School Taxes. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Flowers."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 795 amends the School Code and the Revenue Act. Authorizes an increase to the Chicago Board of Education Building Tax Rate equal to decreases in the Chicago Board of Education Bond and Interest Tax Rate when compared to such rate for 1986. And I urge for the passage of House Bill 795. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. The Chair recognizes Representative Flowers."
"Mr. Speaker, this is not a tax increase or anything like that for the Chicago Board of Education. It's just requesting that the Board is able to deal with these bonds at the same rate in interest that they did in 1986. And this is strictly for the Chicago School Board. Thank you."
"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 38 'ayes', 71 'nos'. This Bill having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'lost'. The next Bill is House Bill 2046, Mr. Daniels. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Third Reading."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 2846, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Assembly has passed four of the five aging out Bills 203 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 dealing with the developmentally disabled. This is the last and final Bill which requires the Governors Planning Council to establish and administer a model program to provide individual transition plans for special education students in Secondary Schools who have reached the age of 16. The model program is to be administered in conjunction with the case coordination pilot projects established by the Department of Mental Health and I would ask favorable support." for your
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 117 'aye', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. On the same Order there appears House Bill 681, Representative Satterthwaite. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Third Reading."
"Representative Satterthwaite."
"Mr. Speaker, I would ask leave to return the Bill for purposes of Amendment."
"The Amendment (sic) shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representatives Satterthwaite and Keane."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. We have arrived at an Amendment for this Bill with which the operating engineers are in support. It simply provides that there be periodic meetings with the principal, the operating engineer and the lunch room manager. Problems that are unresolved at those meetings will be reported to 204 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the superintendent for resolution at that level. And I move for adoption of Amendment #7."
"Mr. Keane?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I join with the Sponsor who has done an outstanding job in bringing this to a resolution. I would urge your support."
"Representative Brunsvold. Mr. Brunsvold."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also join Representative Keane in supporting this legislation. Now that we've got an agreement between the engineers and principals. Thank you."
"Those for the Amendment say "aye", those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is 'adopted'. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Is there leave to hear the Bill on Third Reading? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 681. a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Satterthwaite."
"Amendment #7 has now become the Bill. It provides for a mechanism for the principals and the operating engineers to meet to resolve problems and I ask for your support of House Bill 681."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 114 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. The next Bill shall be House Bill 2745. Mr. Flinn. Mr. Clerk, on what Order 205 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Is this Bill?"
"The Bill appears on Third Reading."
"Read the Bill." May 22, 1987
"House Bill 2745, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Flinn."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2745 was pretty well explained on Second Reading in the Amendment stage. What it basically does is deal with the problem of St. Louis trash in Madison and St. Clair County. We are asking that 30% of the fees collected be allowed to be used for related problems of the St. Louis trash. And I move for the adoption of the Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 107 'ayes', 3 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. We should now move to the Order of the Consent Calendar and the Clerk shall proceed to read the Bills on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, proceed."
"House Bill 42, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 62, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 85, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 87, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain Public Exhibitions. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 100, a Bill for an Act in relation to Acquired Immunity Deficiency Syndrome. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 113, a Bill for an Act to require Reserved Seating for Certain Live Entertainment Performances. Third 206 92nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Reading of this Bill. House Bill 124, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 181, a Bill for an Act to create Small Business Litigation Expense Act. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 252, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Identification Card Act. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 259, a Bill for an Act to amend the Compensation Act. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 298, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to counties. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 319, offered by Representative, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 321, a Bill for an Act designating the state fossil. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 345, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 349, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 361, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 395, a Bill for an Act to amend the Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 398, a Bill for an Act in relation to state aide. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 406, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform and Anatomical Gift Act. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 422, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 429, a Bill for an Act to amend the Municipal Code. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 443, a Bill for an Act in relation to adoption of persons. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 471, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal. Code. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 478, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Aide Code. Third Reading of this Bill. House Bill 504, a Bill for an Act to 207 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 amend Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 522, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 524, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 525, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to Criminal Jurisprudence. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 526, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 527, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 528, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 643, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 671, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 677, a Bill for an Act in relation to Volunteer Fire Protection. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 696, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 727, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 745, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 746, a Bill for an Act to amend the Highway Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 747, a Bill for an Act to amend the Chemical Safety Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 814, a Bill for an Act to prohibit discharge of employees. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 868, a Bill for an Act relating to Park and Forest Preserves. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 871, a Bill for an Act in relation to flag theft and defacement. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 942, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to Energy Generation from Solid Waste. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 208 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION ΟΕΘΑΤΕ 52nd Legislative Day 975, a Bill for an Act to May 22, 1987 require health warnings on outdoor advertising of smokeless tobacco products. Third Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 982, a Bill for an Act in relation to control of blood-borne infectious diseases. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1002, a 6111 for an Act in relation to Recording and Indexing of Drainage of Special Assessment Matters. Third Reading of the BIIl. House Bill 1030, د Bill for an Act to revise the law in relation to recorders. Third Reading of the BIII. House Bill 1040, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the 3111. House B111 1048, a 3111 for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1050, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bil1. House Bill 1058, a Bill for an Act to amend the Library System Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1072, a Bill for an Act concerning Fees and Salaries. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1096, a Bill for an Act in relation to County Zoning. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1109, a Bill for an Act to revise the law In relation to Powers of Attorney. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1113, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to Jurors. Third Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 1147, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1168, a Bill for an Act to amend the Income Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House B111 1218, a Bil1 for an Act in relation to Liens for Internal Revenue Taxes. Third Reading of the Bill. House 8111 1228, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1242, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bil1. House Bill 1253, a Bill for an Act to legalize and validate appropriations and tax levles. Third Reading of the B111. 209 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 House BILL 1278, a 3ill for an Act to amend the Illinois Parentage Act. Third Reading of the 3ill. House B111 1290, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bil1. House Bill 1295. a Bill for an Act In relation to Public Librarles. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1297, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Physical Therapy Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bi11 1309, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bil1. House B111 1310, a Bill for an Act to amend the Field Sanitation Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House B111 1341, a 3ill for an Act to amend the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practice Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1384, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House B111 1386, a Bill for an Act relating to certain advertising. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bi11 1391, a Bill for an Act to amend the Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House 8111 1392, a Bill for an Act to amend the County Zoning Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House 3111 1420, a B111 for an Act to amend the Notary Public Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House S111 1421, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Nursing Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House BI11 1461, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House 8111 1463, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1513, a Bill for an Act authorizing conveyance of certain state property to the City of Jacksonville, Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1526, a Bill for an Act to amend the B111 of Rights for Victims and Witnesses of Violent Crimes Act. Third Reading of the 8111. House Bill 1537, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third 210 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Reading of the Bill. amend the Bill of Violent Crimes Act. 1567, a Bill for May 22, 1987 House Bill 1556, a Bill for an Act to Rights for Victims and Witnesses of Third 'Reading of the Bill. House Bill an Act to amend the Unified Code of Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1583, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Corrections. for House Bill 1590, a Bill for an Act in relation to registration of underground storage tanks. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1632, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House 8111 1672, a Bill for an Act to amend the Highway Code. Third Reading of the Bil1. House Bl11 1735, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to authorize funding for Rail Safety Programs. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill Reading of the Bill. relation to Domestic Relations. for 1740, a B111 for an Act to amend the School Code. Third House Bill 1744, a Bill for an Act In Third Reading of the Bill. of the Bill. House B111 1748, a Bill an Act concerning programs available to adults through State Agencies. Third Reading House Bill 1768, a B111 for an Act in relation to Jury Commissioners. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bl11 1780, a Bill for an Act to amend the Personnel Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1806, a B111 for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. I'm going to open a switch to test one vote switch. That's Just a test for a vote switch. House BI11 1812, a B111 for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House 8111 1818. a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to prohibit the Purchase and Transmission of Electricity produced outside the United States. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1828, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1839, 211 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 a Bill for an Act to amend the Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1852, a Bill for an Act to amend the Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1867, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1896, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to State Treasurer. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1912, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Counties. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1919, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1925, a Bill for an Act to amend the Housing Authorities Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1946, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1955, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to rural health day. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1968, a Bill for an Act recognizing Des Plaines and Illinois Rivers as navigable streams. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1998, a Bill for an Act to amend Regency Universities Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2013, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2043, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2105, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2113, a Bill for an Act to amend the Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2116, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2142, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2203, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fish Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2206, a Bill for an Act to 212 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2206 (sic House Bill 2207), a Bill for an Act concerning commercial transportation of property and persons. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2219, a Bill for an Act to amend the Boat Registration and Safety Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2239, a Bill for an Act in relation to copies of court orders sent by the circuit clerk. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2247, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Low Level Radioactive Waste. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2269, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Farm Development Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2298, a Bill for an Act to amend The School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. The next two Bills have been removed from the Consent Calendar and moved to Interim Study. That is House Bill 2315 and 2316 are in Interim Study. House Bill 2321, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2327, a bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2328, a Bill for an Act to amend the Drug Paraphernalia Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2331, a Bill for an Act to amend the Department of Public Health and the Department of State Police. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2339, a Bill for an Act providing for Patent Travel Trust Fund. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2363, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mobile Home and Mobile Home Park Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2373, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to county zoning. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2376, a Bill for an Act to amend the Weight and Measurements Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2377, a Bill for an Act in relation to Agricultural License. Third Reading of the Bill. House 213 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Bill 2410, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Medical Services Systems Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2433, a Bill for an Act to repeal the Real Estate Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2436, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House 2444, a Bill for an Act to amend the Prairie State 2000 Authority Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2445, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Small Business Purchasing Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2453, a Bill for an Act to amend the Dental Service Plan Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2458, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2511, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2512, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2514, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to Coroners. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2560, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2591, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2606, a Bill for an Act in relation to Recycling Pilot Projects. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2609, a Bill for an Act in relation to unsolicited merchandise. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2636, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House bill 2645, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2655, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2674, a Bill for an Act to define and punish the crimes of contributing to the delinquency and neglect of children. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2746, a Bill for an Act to revise 214 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASS EMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEЗАТЕ 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the law In relation to counties. Third Reading of the 8111. House Bill 2790, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the B111. House Bill 2791, a Bill for an Act to amend the Radiation Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2803, a Bill for an Act to amend the Capital Development Board Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House B111 2805, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Act. Third Reading of the 8111. House Bill 2821, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Clinical Laboratory Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House BIIR 2825, a Bill for an Act in relation to deceptive practices against State. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2836, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2850, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bi11 2851, a Bill for an Act concerning fees and salaries. Third Reading of the Bill. House all】 2207, a 8111 for an Act concerning commercial transportation property۰۰۰ of property and persons. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2239, a Bill for an Act in relation to copies of court orders sent by the Circuit Clerk. Third Reading of the 8111. Message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker, Secretary. "Hr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has passed Bills with the Following title. the passage of which I am Instructed to ask for the concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit: Senate 3ills #1101, 1103, 1115, 1123, 1125, 1129, 1137, 1147, 1154, 1155, 1159, passed by the Senate May 21, 1987. Linda Hawker, Secretary."
"Representative Huff. Representative Huff. It's on."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to have the record reflect 215 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 my vote on 1302. I inadvertently voted 'no' and I just wish the record to reflect that it was my intent to vote 'aye'."
"Let the record so indicate. Representative Turner."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like to make an announcement regarding the annual SIA Tennis Tournament that's coming up for the Legislators and since we are going home for the weekend. I know many of you may want to practice for this tournament that's coming up on June 2nd. I, along with Representative Margie Parcells, Gordon Ropp and John Dunn, are the Co-chairmen this year and if you would see any one of us, we have the forms that are available to sign up for the tournament. This first tournament is for the beginners, which I fit into that classification, those who play once a year, and if you are interested for a fun night, you might want to see myself, Gordie, John or Margie regarding signing up for the tournament. The tournament is going to be held June 2nd of this year. Thank you."
"Representative Ropp."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I just talked to our colleague, Fred Tuerk, and he's going... going home tomorrow and he's In real good shape."
"Give him a hand."
"The Clerk has completed reading the Bills on the Consent Calendar for a third time. We are now prepared to take the Roll Call on Third Reading for the Consent Calendar. Those in favor of the passage of the Bills on the Consent Calendar will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. For what purpose does Mr. Preston seek recognition?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I have discovered why my 216 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 voting record is so dismal in the House. My switch seems to be inoperable, though I think it has been fixed. We are all set. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Terzich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, after the Roll Call, I would like to have leave to vote 'aye' on House Bill 1415. For some reason or another, I was not properly voted."
"That shall be noted in the record."
"I'd like to vote 'aye'."
"I said it shall be noted in the record."
"Th "Thank you very much."
"You're welcome. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 117 'ayes', no... there are 117 'ayes', no one voting "no". The documents have been distributed for those who wish to be recorded differently than what has been recorded on the voting machine and we will walt until approximately 5:00 or 5:15 for the return of those documents. On a Special Call Welfare Reform, there appears House Bill 194. Mr. Homer. Mr. Clerk, House B111 194, on what Order Is this Bill?"
"Bill is on the Order of Third Reading."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 194, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Ald Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Homer."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill was discussed at length the other day with regard to an attempted Amendment which was defeated. The Bill addresses the personal need allowance of residents of long term nursing care facilities. The... who are on social security or SSI. They are allowed... if they are also public ald 217 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 recipients, to retain $25 per month as personal needs allowance from which they are required to spend for sundry items such as their nonprescription drugs that aren't covered. their clothing. toiletries, all types of requirements have to come out of this allowance. The Bill would very modestly increase that allowance by ten dollars a month and establish it at $35. It has not been Increased since It was established back some 13 or 14 years ago. I would urge your favorable consideration on the $111."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to the Bill. The Department of Public Ald is in opposition to the Bill. The annual estimated cost of the Bill, as amended, Is 7.2 million dollars. I think it's something that should be considered only in the larger context of state finances somewhat later in the year. I stand in opposition."
"The question is, "Shall this Bill pass?" Those In favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Satterthwaite, to explain her vote."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is a very much needed Increase to people who have had to live on a very minimal amount of personal money in the past. Without this, we are really encouraging people to avoid letting US know what their Income is If they have a relative or someone who will help to subsidize them. It is only justified that they have some small increase in their personal allowance. You cannot possibly live on $25 a month for all of the necessities that have to come out of that amount of money. You are supposed to report anything that you get, even a gift, and so if someone wants to help a person and give them the money for a new pair of shoes. they have to report that. We are encouraging people to 218 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 avoid the law without giving them a reasonable Increase."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would like to explain my vote and tell you from personal experiences what I see happens with this money that is given to the people in the nursing homes. The nursing home people do not get the money. Most of the times. it's their family that's taking it from them. They don't even use this money and that's why the big argument is here. Beside the fiscal cost, I think there's a big problem in the allowances that are given to them and it's not truly used by the patient that's in the nursing home."
"Have all voted, who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 59 'ayes", 51 'no'. The Chair recognizes Mr. Homer." .Homer: "Speaker, I'd like a Poll of the Absentees."
"Representative Pullen."
"Mr. Speaker, I couldn't see which light I was pushing behind all this stuff on my desk. I would like to change my vote to 'no', please."
"Change Representative Pullen to 'no'. Mr. Clerk, poll the absentees."
"A poll of those Hembers not voting: Representatives Giorgi and Klemm are not voting."
"Mr. Giorgi. Record Mr. Giorgi as 'aye'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, have you taken the record. Okay, on this question, there are 59 ayes', 52 'nos'. This Bill, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority is hereby... Mr. Homer."
"Mr. Speaker, would you poll the absentees, please?"
"I believe we did."
"Did you do that?"
"I think we did. This Bill. having failed to 219 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 receive a Constitutional Hajority, is hereby declared lost. On the same Order, there appears House Blll 295, Representative Currie. This appears on page 16 of the Calendar. Representative Currie."
"May I have leave to bring the Bill back to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment?"
"The B11l shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading."
"Floor Amendment 02 is being offered by Representative Currie."
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Amendment makes the program which would provide Hedicaid Services to low income pregnant women permissive to fit a time schedule that will be fiscally responsible. I urge its adoption."
"Those In favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Is there leave to hear the Bill on the Order of Third Reading? Leave Is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bl11 295, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is a Bill to encourage Illinols to participate in recent Federal Medicald expansions that make services for pregnant women, low income pregnant women avallable to people up to the federal poverty line, pregnant women and their children. I would be happy to answer questions and I'd 220 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 appreciate your support for House 3111 295."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the 3ill will signify by voting *aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 81 'aye', 27 "no". This Bi11, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared... Mr. Novak. Mr. Novak."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Put my vote as an "aye", please."
Speaker Madigan "Record Mr. Novak as 'aye'. This Bill, having received 82 ayes and 27 'nos" and having received a Constitutional Najority, is hereby declared passed. On the same Order, there appears House Bill 2185. Representative Braun. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill is on the Order of Third Reading."
"Read the 8111."
"House Bill 2185, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unifled Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a, if you will, pro-family Bill in that it allows for the Department of Corrections to exchange information with the Department of Public Aid so that they can deal with living arrangements and provisions relating to prisoners and their relationships with their families. I would encourage your support and would answer any questions you may have."
"The question is, Shall this 81ll pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting *aye', those opposed by voting 'no. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 114 'ayes', no one 221 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 voting "no". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the same Order, there appears House Bill 1353. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"On page 15, the Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"Amendment #1 is being offered by Representatives Wojcik and McCracken."
"Representative Wojcik, on Amendment #1."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House. What this Amendment... it provides that the grant amounts will be set for an average size family at a fixed percentage based on one wage earner paid at the federal minimum wage."
"Representative... Mr. Clerk, who is the Bill's Sponsor? Mr. LeFlore."
"Mr. Speaker, I oppose that Amendment. Amendment #1."
"Now, fine. Mr. LeFlore, let me advise you that there has been a request for a fiscal note filed on the Bill. The Clerk Informs me..."
"It has been filed, Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. Clerk, do you have the fiscal note? Fine, Sir. So, Mr. LeFlore stands in opposition to the Amendment. On the Amendment. Representative Currie. Has Representative Currie abandoned her station? Representative Bowman."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I join Representative LeFlore in opposition to this Amendment. There's several aspects of it that are very unwise. Number one and really the foremost aspect is that we are... would be affixing the public aid grant level at the federal minimum wage or a fixed percentage of the federal minimum wage. Number one, that takes control over 222 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the grant level completely out of our hands here in the State of Illinois. If γου are going to relate it to anything, you ought to relate it to the state minimum wage. not the federal minimum wage. Yes, let me also point out that the federal minimum wage has not changed for a number of years. Maybe that's why the Sponsor of the Amendment wants to use that as her benchmark; however, everyone here should be advised that there is legislation pending in the Congress to do something about that. And as we all know, practicing Legislators, that when something hasn't changed for many years, pressures build up and build up just like volcanoes and eventually they erupt. So, we are on the eve of a sudden jump in the federal minimum wage and I can just about predict that if this Amendment is adopted and the legislation becomes law, that suddenly we are going to be faced with a very abrupt Increase in the grant level and It will be completely out of our control. I think this Is a very bad proposal and I strongly urge its defeat."
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I wonder if the Sponsor of this Amendment is aware Amendment #2 to this Bill which would change its provisions rather substantially and In light of Amendment #2, she might be interested in withdrawing Amendment 1."
"Representative, I am not familiar with Amendment #2. Could you explain Amendment #2 to me?"
"Yes, Amendment 2 will put the Bill into a form in which we can deal with the issue of floors for public ald grant levels when this Bill is in the Senate. There have been changes on another Bill in the welfare program, House Bill 2853, that take out maximum consideratlons from the Bill in Its present form SO that there can be a discussion of floors and ceilings in respect to public ald grants while 223 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 these Bills wend their ways through the rest of the legislative process. And on that basis, the Amendment #2 to this Bill will keep the issue of floors, of minimums alive, but will make no substantive change nor will it create any dollar cost responsibilities for the Department of Public Aid."
"Representative, I'm told that this does not make it the type of Bill that we'd like to have so that we could clean it up in the Senate because there is already an insertion of 49.7 percent..."
"Which is... which is present... which is the current level and I can only tell you I showed this Amendment to the Department of Public Aid two days ago, and it was my understanding that they concurred in adopting this Amendment to this Bill so that these discussions could continue in the Senate with both those issues tied together, the issues of floor and ceiling at the same time."
"Representative, I am told that they have not agreed to this and that the 49.7 percent is not currently in the statutes."
"This is... that's the current level and all this Amendment... all Amendment 2 does is to say that the level for this year... which is the level for this year..."
"Representative, I am told that there is a denial of that subject matter."
"Ladies, could we bring the discussion to a close? And the question is, on the Amendment, those for the Amendment will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Those for the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The question is the Amendments. We are on the Amendments. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall 224 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 take the record. On this question, there are 54 'ayes', and 54... 54 'ayes' and 55 'nos'. The Amendment falls. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Currie and LeFlore."
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. The Intent of Amendment 2 is to establish that the grant levels shall be what the grant levels are today in an effort to keep the discussion of floors open. I move adoption of the Amendment. It has no fiscal Impact. It affects only the current year. I'd appreciate your support."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have It. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Mr. LeFlore."
"I'd like to move It, Mr. Speaker."
"There being no further Amendments, the Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1353, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. LeFlore."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1353, as amended, of the Public Aid Code, in relation to the amount assistance to be paid in each category of recipient required as grant level. I urge a 'yes' vote on the Bill. If there is any questions. I'm open for answering questions."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Mays, to explain his vote." 225 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I think the people should know that with the defeat of Amendment #1, what you are basically doing is saying that people can make more on public aid than a family that works, that makes the minimum wage and I don't think that's the kind of policy we want to be setting here in this chamber. That's why I want to say 'no' until we can get this Bill back in the shape that it ought to be in."
"Have all voted who wish? Representative Currie, to explain her vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Just to remind you that there is no fiscal impact in this Bill, as amended, at all. The Bill applies to the current year and it merely states the obvious, that public grant levels in the State of Illinois today are 49.7 percent of what the state says it takes to keep body and soul together. This Bill costs no money, costs not one penny more than what we are spending in public welfare grants today. The purpose of moving this Bill is to continue discussions about what the public aid grant should be. Should it be tied to the minimum wage? Should it be tied to other issues? And I think it would be very nice if Representative LeFlore could move his Bill over to the Senate, this Bill that does not cost anybody anything."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Mr. LeFlore."
"I'd like a Poll of the Absentees, please."
"Mr. Clerk, Poll of the Absentees."
"Representative DeJaegher and Klemm are not voting."
"Mr. DeJaegher. Record Mr. DeJaegher as 'aye'. Chair recognizes Representative Wojcik."
"Mr. Speaker, in the event this does get its requisite... required number of votes, I'd like to have a verification." 226 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
Bowman." May 22, 1987 "The Lady has requested a verification.
Mr. Bowman: "Well, I would urge the Lady to withdraw her request. Not only is it a late hour, but welfare reform is going to..."
"Mr. Bowman, I think your request has not been received well. Mr. Clerk, read the names of those voting in the affirmative."
"Poll of the Affirmative. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Daley. Davis. DeJaegher. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Greiman. Homer. Huff. Jones. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Novak. O'Connell. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."
"Mrs. Wojcik."
"Representative Breslin."
"She is right down here. Right here."
"Representative Giorgi."
"Mr. Giorgi. Remove Mr. Giorgi. Mr. Giorgi has returned."
"Representative Saltsman."
"Mr. Saltsman. Remove Mr. Saltsman."
"Representative Novak."
"Mr. Novak is in the chamber."
"I withdraw my verification."
"Any further questions, Representative?"
"The Governor's..."
"I'm sorry. Mr... I see. Mr. Daniels. Mr. 227 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Daniels. Turn on Mr. Daniels." May 22, 1987
"Put me on. The Governor's Office has requested that we continue dialogue on the general issue of welfare reform. Personally, I don't like some of the items in this Bill, but based upon that request, since this issue is important to the Administration and is a national issue, I will change my vote only to get this Bill out and that request by the Governor's Office and I'd ask leave to be changed to 'aye'."
"Record Mr. Daniels as 'aye'. There are 60 'ayes' and 55 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the same Order there appears House Bill 116. Representative Braun. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 116, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Braun."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Consistent with Representative Daniels last remark, I would ask everyone to take a look at this Bill. The Governor has said in his message that this was the year for us to consider an increase in the grant level for public aid. We know, obviously, that given the process, this is a matter which will be worked out over time. I would say to you that this General Assembly has not increased or taken any action with regard to changing the grant level for public aid. This is an issue that not only affects adults, but primarily affects children and old people and senior citizens and the handicapped and I would encourage your support for the cost of living increase for public aid. And I would be delighted to answer any questions you may have."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Mr. 228 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen Hay 22, 1987 of the House, I understand the concern here. We have a several number of welfare reform Bills over... being sent over to the Senate and I would just suggest to the Representative that there are several matters that are available to deal with and I don't think it's necessary to send any others over other than the one that we dealt with extensively before. And Representative Braun, I think that you could handle It in that fashion and would request that you work with us through the other Bills that will be there."
"Representative Braun. Representative Braun."
"Mr. Speaker, the Gentleman has left me almost speechless, but not quite. I would... I would ask the Members again... we know that there are vehicles and there are vehicles and there are vehicles. but this issue, I think, is one which... it would not be inappropriate to send this Bill to the Senate as well to be part of the general package. It's an Issue that's got to be taken up. It's an issue that will be taken up and I would ask for your support for this legislation which started out in the process in the normal way and which will raise... or keep alive on the table the Issue of whether or not and to what extent we will support the senior citizens and the old people who are dependent on... and children who are dependent on public assistance for their livelihood. I would ask for your support."
"Representative Hallock."
"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"Sponsor yields."
"Sure."
"Could you give us a cost break down on what this... impact of this Bill might be?"
"Alright, okay, the... Representative, I don't have here 229 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the actual dollar number for this Bill. No, I do not. What I can tell you is that the last public aid increase that we granted was in '80. That was five percent. And all this suggests is that we do it again in this General Assembly."
"Well, it so happens I have just received a fiscal note from the Department and their cost estimates place this Bill at around 64 million. But I guess what's as Important as the amount of money involved here is the issue and the concept Itself. We're being asked now here in the General Assembly to give a cost of living increase to those who are on welfare when many people in our state. working people, haven't had a cost of living Increase in many, many years. We are getting our priorities wrong. It's the working people In this state who fund the whole State of Illinois. We try to do what we can to be fair and help those who are in need and that's Important that we do that. But to suggest at a time of crisis in Illinois that we turn around and spend 64 milllon bucks on this program is an absolutely abominable Idea. I urge it be defeated."
"Representative Wojcik."
"I have some questions of the Sponsor."
"The Sponsor yields, but the Chair would admonish both Representatives Braun and Wojcik that we would like to move along. I don't mean to irritate anyone, but could we just move along expeditiously? So, proceed, Representative Wojcik."
"Then may I speak to the Bill Instead of asking questions?"
"That would be fine."
"I would like to point out that there really truly is a cost to this Bill, that it is 64.4 million and what we are looking at with public aid, Instead of looking at public 230 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 aid as something to take care of the need immediately and to help them find a job and to help them make something of themselves, we're looking as public aid should be a business and we're going cost of living expenses. standard of need expenses. This Is not a business. We are not giving merlt increases. We are not giving salary raises. We are trying to get them on their feet, put them to work and let them learn to be the most dignified individuals in the whole State of Illinois. This is a bad proposal. It's a costly proposal and we should not get ourselves into this. We're talking 62.4... or 64.4 million dollars. Thank you."
"The Chair would like to proceed to Roll Call on the main question. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The Chair recognizes Mr. Huff, to explain his vote."
"Yes, very brlefly, Mr. Speaker, I would remind some of the Members on this side of the aisle that many of the people on public ald were, themselves, working people last year. Let's not forget that fact."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 48 ayes', 63 'nos". The 8111 fails. Please be advised that the Clerk has stopped taking any changes of vote on the Consent Calendar. Did you wish to submit yours, Representative Pullen? These votes could affect the course of history. The Clerk will remain open for a little longer. Mr. Clerk. The next Bill would be House 8111 217. Representative Flowers, do you wish to call that Bill? That Bill shall not be called. The next B111 shall be House B111 968. Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on Second Reading?" 231 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"House Bill 968, on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments? Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Flowers."
"Representative Flowers."
"Amendment #1... withdraw Amendment #1, please."
"Withdraw Amendment #1. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Wojcik and McCracken."
"Representative Wojcik, on Amendment #2."
"What this Amendment does, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, it provides that the emergency assistance described In House Bill 968 shall only be offered in areas of the state where the DPA does not provide funding through the homeless shelter program. I think that this Amendment is a good Amendment and it's put in in the essence of cost so we do... we avoid duplication."
"Those... Representative Flowers."
"Mr. Speaker, I oppose Amendment #1. It's dilatory."
"Alright. The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Representative Wojcik."
"Mr. Speaker, she opposes Amendment #1 as being dilatory. This is Amendment #2."
"Turn on Representative Flowers."
"Madam... Mr. Speaker, Amendment #2 is technically Incorrect. That's the reason why I'm opposing Amendment #2. Can we have a ruling from the Parliamentarian, please, In regards to Amendment #2?"
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, the Lady is correct. I recall earlier that we did have this Amendment in and it was incorrect. 232 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEHALY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 So, I withdraw it."
"The Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Wojcik."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I wish to withdraw Amendment #3."
"Amendment #3 shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4 is being offered by Representative Flowers."
"Representative Flowers."
"Mr. Speaker, I would like to accept Amendment #4 and it merely makes some technical changes in the Bill as far as the wording is concerned and I would move for the adoption of Amendment #4."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 968, a Bill for an Act in relationship to obtaining housing for the homeless persons. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Flowers."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill is dealing with the homeless. It requires local government units administering general assistance to assist applicants in securing a place of shelter and I would move for the passage of House Bill 968. Thank you."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I'd like to 233 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 point out to the Members of the Assembly that this is an agreed Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 109 'ayes', 5 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1656. Mr. Levin? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 16, House Bill 1656, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 1656 is another... hold on one second... is another Bill that deals with the homeless and deals with the problem of a gap in time when people get out of institutions before they begin to receive services for which they were previously eligible. I would urge an affirmative vote for the homeless."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 66 'ayes', 44 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1814. Mr. Bowman? Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Amendment #2 is being offered by Representatives Wojcik and McCracken."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, what this Amendment does, it just allows the Department of Public Aid to establish the rules and regulations for such pilot 234 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day programs."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed... Mr. Bowman. Mr. Bowman."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I believe Amendment #2 is technically in error and besides, the Department supports the Bill in its original form as amended with Amendment #1. Amendment #2 is not written to the Bill as currently amended by Amendment #1. That is the problem with Amendment #2."
"Representative Wojcik."
"We are going to check that out."
"Mr. Bowman."
"While everybody is checking these things out let me just point out to Representative Wojcik that the Department supports the Bill as amended by Amendment #1, so I believe your Amendment #2 would be unnecessary from a political perspective. So. I just urge you to withdraw the Amendment and save everybody a lot of time."
"Representative, the Department is neutral. They do not support Amendment #1."
"The Parliamentarian feels that the Amendment is in order. Therefore, we are back on the question of the Amendment. Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those against the Amendment say 'no'. Those for the Amendment vote 'aye', those against the Amendment vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question. there are 50 'ayes', 63 'nos'. The Amendment falls. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1814, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 235 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is really a very simple Bill. It would permit the Department of Public Aid, if the federal rules and regulations are changed in this Session of Congress, to experiment with entrepreneurial programs so that people who are on public aid may separate their assets between personal assets and business assets without losing their ellgibility for public aid, until their income got to such a level as they would no longer be eligible. I stand corrected by Representative Wojcik. The Department of Public Aid is neutral on this Bill and I urge its passage."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill... Representative Wojcik. Representative Wojcik."
"I would like to point out that the comment has been made that the Department of Public Aid is for this. The Department of Public Aid is neutral. The cost is going to be exorbitant and I would recommend that a 'no' vote would be quite appropriate."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative McCracken."
"A verification, Mr. Speaker, if it appears to receive the requisite votes."
"Mr. Bowman."
"Well, I think..."
"Mr. Bowman, we're on Roll Call."
"I'm explaining my vote."
"Well, you have spoken in debate at great length. The Clerk shall take the record. On this 236 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 question, there are 62 'ayes', 49 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, there is a request for a verification by Mr. McCracken. Mr. Clerk, read the names of those voting in the affirmative."
"Poll of the Affirmative. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Bugielski. Christensen. Cullerton. Currie. Daley. Davis. DeJaeger. DeLeo. Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Granberg. Greiman. Hartke. Hicks. Homer. Huff. Jones. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McPike. Morrow. Hulcahey. Novak. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Representative Huff."
"Mr. Huff."
"Alright, I'll withdraw that."
"I'm told the Gentleman is in the nurse's station."
"I'll withdraw that. Representative Rea."
"Mr. Rea. Mr. Rea. Remove Mr. Rea and Mr. McCracken, would you verify Representative Younge in the front of the chamber?"
"Yes, yes."
"Proceed. Mr. McCracken."
"Representative McNamara."
"Mr. McNamara. Remove Mr... Mr. McNamara is not voting."
"I'm sorry. Representative Krska."
"Mr. Krska. Remove Mr. Krska." 237 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Representative Terzich." May 22, 1987
"Mr. Terzich. Remove... Mr. Terzich is in the chamber."
"Representative Richmond."
"Mr. Richmond. Remove Mr. Richmond."
"Representative Hicks."
"Mr. Hicks is down at the page's bench."
"Representative McNamara. Oh, he's not voting. I'm sorry. Representative Leverenz."
"Mr. Leverenz. Mr... Mr. Leverenz. Mr. Leverenz. Remove Mr. Leverenz."
"Nothing further."
"On this question there are 58 'ayes' and 49 'nos'. The Bill falls. The next Bill will be House Bill 2853. Mr. Daniels. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Grelman."
"Mr. Greiman, on Amendment #3. Mr. Greiman. Withdraw Amendment #3. Are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Currie."
"Representative Currie. Withdraw Amendment #4."
"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Greiman."
"Mr. Grelman. Withdraw Amendment #4 (sic Amendment #5)."
"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Daniels."
"Withdraw."
"Withdraw Amendment #6."
"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Daniels."
"Mr. Daniels." 238 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Hithdraw."
"Withdraw Amendment #7." May 22, 1987
"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Bowman."
"Mr. Bowman. Withdraw Amendment #8."
"Floor Amendment #9, offered by Representative Daniels."
"Mr. Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, there has been substantial and lengthy negotiations between the parties of interest in the area of welfare reform and let me state briefly that people across the political spectrum have reached a consensus that the national welfare system Isn't working and they are looking for us to correct many of the inequities that exist. Amendment #9 to House Bill 2853 makes various changes to the welfare reform proposal to conform with the recommendations of the Governor's Task Force on Welfare Reform and to meet concerns raised by representatives of several client advocacy groups. This Amendment continues the interim assistance program in those geographic areas of the state where the Illinois Department does not administer a general assistance program, provides that grant diversion projects will be coordinated with the programs administered under the Illinois Emergency Employment Development Act, clarifies job search program requirements, provides that general assistance clients which have been determined disabled will receive the same cash benefits and medical coverage as interim assistance clients, makes technical corrections as suggested by the Legal Assistance Foundation, clarifies language for establishing demonstration projects, adds back the original language allowing the Department to use State Board of Elections computer Information and deletes obsolete 239 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 language in several Sections of the Public Aid Code. I think that this has rather universal agreement. I'd ask for your support of Amendment #9."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Representative Hyvetter Younge."
"Representative Younge."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #10 would require all of the job opportunities to have acceptable occupational safety and health standards, requires pre-employment training and including family resource development. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."
"Mr. Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker, has this Amendment been printed and distributed?"
"I see. Representative Younge, the Clerk Informs me that this has not been printed and distributed."
"I would move to table."
"Would you like to withdraw the Amendment?"
"Yes."
"Okay, the Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2853, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to public assistance. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I am proud to stand before you advocating the passage of House Bill 2853. You have heard the synopsis of Amendment #9, 240 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 which you recently adopted. This is an Administration Bill to enact welfare reform. In cooperation with the Director of Public Aid, Ed Duffy, his assistant, Mike Taylor, several other people from the Department, we proudly present this as a direction of moving Illinois forward in welfare reform in cooperation with our Governor, James Thompson. This does restructure general assistance in certain areas of the state, allows for the development of grant diversion and entrepreneur programs, extends medical assistance and expanded day care services, provides for state demonstration projects which would be conducted throughout the state, deletes some obsolete language and also implements changes which will allow the state to collect more child support. Several other provisions are contained in here and I would ask for your favorable support in the passage of House Bill 2853."
"Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise in modified support of House Bill 2853 and only to make the point that the continuing discussions will surround the issue of maximum grant levels tied to the minimum wage as well as floors for grant levels in the State of Illinois. There will be further discussions on the characteristics, the structure of the Interim assistance program in the City of Chicago. I point out to the Members of this Body that this program, this Bill, will cost us 22.6 million dollars, but I think it's well worth the spending if the welfare reform program that ends up as 2853 does the job we all hope it will."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Bowman, to explain his vote." 241 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Yes, I just want to say, 'Thank you,' to Mr. Daniels by voting 'no' on this Bill." * Speaker Madigan: "Mr. Williams to explain his vote. This Bill now has 103 'aye' votes."
"I'm voting 'aye' on this Bill, but the only purpose is to let them know that presently there is only 375 case workers to deal with. What you are going to have is a double load in terms of Project Chance and we would like you, as you consider the negotiations, to increase the number of case workers to handle the load. They don't handle it now. He'd like them to handle it later. Thank you."
"Representative Davis, to explain your vote."
"I would like to ask Representative Daniels a question. Does this Bill include in it that if a recipient refuses some type of employment that he will be removed from the welfare?"
"Well, we are in the Roll Call, but I would be happy to suggest to you that It depends upon the circumstances. There are sanctions, but the sanctions are very carefully set forth in the Bill and you should know that we have met with the City of Chicago and their negotiating team and they have agreed to the movement of this legislation, are satisfied that it's reasonable."
"I mean this is not the type of legislation that would force welfare recipients to work at the removal of asbestos, is it?"
"No, absolutely not."
"Alright. Thank you. Then I will change my vote."
"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 107 'ayes', 4 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The 242 STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 next Bill Is House 3111 2862, Mr. Daniels. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4..."
"Who is the Sponsor?"
"Is being offered by Representative Currie."
"Representative Currie. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5 Is being offered by Representative Daniels."
"Mr. Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is another part of the welfare reform package. This Amendment makes technical changes to House Bill 2862 pertaining to the immediate income withholding for child support. This amends the income withholding provisions of the five child support statutes as follows: Requires that all orders for withholding entered by the court provide for immediate service on the payor of Income; provides for separate service of the order for withholding to collect a delinquency accrued prior to the first service of the order and to update the amount of delinquency and arrearage. It clarifies that notwithstanding the changes in the income withholding statutes, that in order for withholdings to be governed by the law in effect on the date it was entered. And I would seek your favorable support of the Amendment."
"Mr. Dunn."
"Sponsor yield for a question?"
"Sponsor yields."
"Does this Amendment have the mandatory withholding provision in it?"
"Yes."
"Okay, then I rise in opposition to the Amendment. I hope we defeat it." 243 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Those for the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 95 'ayes', 10 'nos'. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Greiman."
"Mr. Greiman. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Greiman."
"Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the bill."
"House Bill 2862..."
"Mr. Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker. I have been asked to place this Bill in Interim Study for the reasons that there are several provisions dealing with mandatory withholding of income that need to be continued study. With leave of the House, I would place this in Interim Study."
"Mr. Johnson."
"This is a point of personal privilege and also to the Bill, on behalf of my doctor and my blood pressure analyst and so forth, I appreciate Representative Daniels appropriate disposition of this Bill. Thank you."
"Is there leave that this Bill be placed on the Order of the Interim Study? Leave is granted. The Bill shall be placed on Interim Study. House Resolution 312, Mr. Daniels. Mr. Daniels, on House Resolution 312."
"Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Resolution 312 is a Resolution that asks for assistance... 244 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 of Congress of the United States of America in dealing with the area of welfare reform. It covers several provisions and some of those provisions ask for Congress to review portions of the federal welfare system and calls upon them to enact those changes. I would seek your favorable support."
"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'aye'... Representative Currie."
"Excuse me... was an Amendment to this Resolution."
"Mr. Daniels, you wish to offer the Amendment?"
"I'd love to. I offer the Amendment."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Now, on the main question, those for the Resolution say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. On the Order of State Government, there appears House Bill 275, Mr. McPike. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 17 of the Calendar, House Bill 275, a Bill for an Act to amend the Private Detective, Private Alarm and Private Security Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McPike."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 is a technical Amendment. It's a vehicle Bill dealing with the Private Security, Private Alarm Act..."
"Mr. McPike. Mr. McPike. Mr. Clerk, on what Order is this Bill?"
"The Bill is on the Order of Third Reading."
"The Bill should be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Let me correct that. The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. McPike."
"As I was saying, Amendment #1 was only a technical Amendment and that is now the Bill and it's a vehicle for 245 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the security alarm private... for the Security Private Alarm, Private Security Act. It's a vehicle 3111. Move for the adoption."
"Those in favor of the passage of the 3111 signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 107 'ayes', 2 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 331. Hr. Clerk, on what Order Is this Bill? 331."
"House Bill 331 is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments? Are there any Amendments to 331?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representatives Harris and McCracken."
"Mr. Harris, I believe this one should be withdrawn. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Ryder."
"Mr. Ryder, I believe this one should be withdrawn also. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, being offered by Representative Wolf."
"Mr. Wolf. Mr. Wolf."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #4 deletes everything after the enacting clause and becomes the Bill. This is to be a vehicle Bill and I would move for its passage."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" 246 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 331, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Greiman, on the Bill."
"Yes, this is a shell of a Bill and just would ask your support."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 97 'ayes', 3 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 327, Mr. Weaver. Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read the third time?"
"House Bill 327 is on the Order of Third Reading. It's not been read a third time."
"Please read the Bill."
"Correction, it's on the Order of Postponed Consideration. A Bill for an Act to amend the County Jail Good Behavior Allowance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Weaver."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave to return this from Postponed Consideration to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment."
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of... Mr. Dunn. The Gentleman objects. Mr. Weaver, do you wish to move..."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I move to return this to Second Reading for purposes of an Amendment."
"The Gentleman moves that the Bill be put on the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Those in favor of the Motion signify by voting 'aye', those 247 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION OЕВАТЕ 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 100 *ayes', 4 'nos". The Motlon is adopted. The Bill is now on the Order of Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment 22 is being offered by Representative Weaver."
"Mr. Weaver."
"Thank you, Hr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. Amendment #2 takes care of the problems that we apparently had with the Bill. The objections were raised by Majority Leader McPike and Mr. Homer concerning the actual infringement on good time. What the Amendment does is allow that a sentenced... person who is sentenced for a crime which provides a mandatory minimum shall not receive any portion of good behavior allowance that would reduce the sentence below the minimum and I ask for adoption of the Amendment."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, just to clarify now then, what you are trying to do here is if there's a mandatory minimum like in a case where... drunk driving pays for... somebody has to spend 24 or 48 hours in jail. one or two days in Jail, as a mandatory minimum, the purpose of the Bill is that they shouldn't have a day for day good time. Is that what you are trying to accomplish with the Bi117"
"That's correct. It simply establishes a floor."
"And the... alright, and the Amendment clears up the inconsistency that was created by the first Amendment that was adopted? Is that correct?"
"That's correct."
"Okay, thank you."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those 248 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Bill, having been previously read on Third Reading, the Chair recognizes Mr. Weaver."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment is now the Bill and I ask for a favorable vote on the passage."
"Those In favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 93 'ayes', 18 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1034, Representative Hyvetter Younge. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Page 6 of the Calendar, House Bill 1034, a Bill for an Act to provide jobs in the public sector. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Younge."
"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1034 would establish the Illinois Guaranteed Jobs Opportunity Act. This would establish a new program which will help young people and adults who are... have found it difficulty to find employment to be employed in public works type projects all over the state. There would be councils set up, district councils set up in the counties all over Illinois. I believe... and these councils would... consisting of 13 members would decide what the particular project would be and the person would be... that is 16 years or older that would be... that has been unemployed for a period of 30 days would be eligible to work in this new project and they would work 32 hours a week and they would receive counseling and economic 249 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 education in how to fill out resumes so that they would be eligible for other types of employment. And I move for the passage of this Bill."
"Representative Younge, did you wish to adopt an Amendment to this Bill."
"I did."
"You do?"
"Yes."
"So, shall we place the Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"Yes, I would appreciate it, Mr. Speaker."
"Fine, the Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, is there an Amendment filed?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."
"Representative Younge, on Amendment #2."
"Yes, Amendment #2 would include Chicago in the Bill. I move for the passage."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Hallock. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 65 'ayes', 45 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1312, Mr. Levin. This matter shall be taken out of the record because the Bill is already passed. House Bill 1867, Mr. Kulas. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 250 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Mr. Speaker, that Bill went out on the Consent Calendar."
"Thank you. Mr. Kulas. House Bill 1903. Mr. Ronan. You don't wish to call the Bill? House Bill 1908, Mr. Terzich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 19 of the Calendar, House Bill 1908, a bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1908 amends the Income Tax Act and it permits a credit to individuals equal to 50 percent of the cost of installation for homes to protect against airport noise, with a maximum credit of $10,000 per taxable year. This Bill, of course, is extremely important to the people of the State of Illinois and especially those who are constantly bombarded with the noises from the airplanes, especially in the O'Hare area and the Midway area. And I would appreciate your support for House Bill 1908."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 71 'ayes', 42 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 337, Mr. Stange. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House... on page 17, House Bill 337, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relationship to blood banks. Third Reading of the Bill. Stange and White are the Sponsors."
"Mr. McCracken. Mr. White."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Representative Stange and I are Co-Sponsors of this Bill. It's a simple one. It would allow the family to set aside 251 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SENBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 blood at a hospital and after seven days the blood is not used, it would be put into the bank of the hospital. Blood Is being set aside for family members only and after seven days it will be put into the blood bank of the hospital. I move for its passage."
"Those in favor of the passage of the B111 signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no'. Have ail voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On... the board is open. Have all voted who wish? Oh. Would you record Mr. Mulcahey as 'no". Mr. Cullerton. Mr. Cullerton."
"The inquiry was whether or not Amendment #1 was on the Bill and whether or not the Sponsor wanted Amendment #1 to be on the Bill. Okay, fine. It's fine. Thank you."
"On this... Mr. Clerk."
"The B11l is amended by Amendment #l."
"On this question. there are 107 'ayes'. 5 people voting "no". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2173, Мг. Capparelli. Hr. Clerk, read the Bi11. Mr. Clerk."
"On page 7 of the Calendar, House Bill 2173, a Bill for an Act relating to certain loans. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. "MI Capparelli." Capparel11: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2173 amends the Civil Administration Code. It authorizes the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs to make loans to local units of government. I move that it be... for 'aye' vote."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? The 252 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day clerk shall 108 'ayas'. May 22, 1987 take the record. On this question, there are 5 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2175. Mr. Capparelli. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 31 of the Calendar. House Bill 2175, a Bill for an Act authorizing certain loans. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Capparelli."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. 2175 is the same as 2173. The only difference is in this case It gives the authorization to the Capital Development Board. I ask for an 'aye' vote."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. This will require 71 votes. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 83 'ayes', 23 'nos'. This Bill, having received an Extraordinary Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1187, Mr. Black. Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1187, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Black."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1187 amends the Civil Administrative Code to simply ask the Department of Agriculture to establish an Illinois fresh label program. That will... 253 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 They will be asked to design and produce a label with the words "Illinois fresh on it which will be placed on each container of fresh fruit, vegetables, meat or other Food commodity produced or originated in Illinois. It's very similar to the California and Florida program. I would move passage of House Bill 1187."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 109 'ayes', 5 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2437, Mr. Cullerton. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 5 of the Calendar. House Bill 2437, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. At this point in time the Bill is a shell Bill. There are negotiations going on with the Director of the Department of Insurance and interested groups, but the issue of captive Insurance companies and risk retention in purchasing groups, once those agreements are finalized, this will be the vehicle for the Bill. Appreciate a favorable vote."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 99 'ayes', 5 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2507, Mr. Levin. Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on the Order of Second 254 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Reading?" May 22, 1987
"On page 30 of the Calendar, House Bill 2507 is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Mr. Clerk, Is this on the Order of Second Reading?"
"The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments? Mr. Levin, do you know If there are any Amendments to the Bill?"
"Yes."
"There are?"
"Yeah, Amendment #2..."
"Alright, let us find the Amendment."
"Amendment #2..."
"Mr. Levin, let us walt for the Clerk to find the Amendment."
"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee. There are no Motions filed in respect to Amendment #1. Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Levin."
"Mr. Levin."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladles and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 accommodates a concern raised by Representative Countryman in Committee and It simply changes the word 'receivers' to 'surety on the receivers'. This was something that we had agreed to in Committee."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those against say "no". The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There any no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2507, a Bill for an Act in relationship to certain bullding in municipalities. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Levin." 255 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Thank you, Mr. House. House May 22, 1987 Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bill 2507 basically codifies existing procedures in the City of Chicago with respect to receivers on buildings where there are problems in terms of heat. No... no opposition to the Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 115 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1320, Mr. Ryder. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 4 of the Calendar, House Bill 1320, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Ryder."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave of the House to move this Bill to Second Reading for purposes of a Motion."
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Ryder."
"At this time, I... at this time, I would ask to table Amendment 2."
"Mr. Clerk, what is the status of Amendment #2?"
"House Bill 1320 has Amendments #1 and 2 adopted previously."
"Am I correct in understanding that the Amendment has been adopted, that the Motion to table is not in order?"
"But I would ask..."
"No. I... it is in order. The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #2. Is there leave? Leave is granted. 256 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 The Amendment is tabled. Mr. Ryder."
"I would now ask for immediate... or to move to Third Reading."
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been read a Third Time?"
"No. House Bill 1320, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Ryder."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. The Bill now has, with the Amendment that it has, requires or allows overweight In a certain small specific circumstance that required a permit before. Now the permit process will be eliminated."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 103 'aye', 9 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2656. Mr. Parke. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"On page 6 of the Calendar, House Bill 2656. It's been read a Second Time previously. Floor Amendment #1 Is being offered by Representative Parke and Stern."
"Mr. Parke."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 deletes the authority of the Inter-Governmental Highway Corridor Agency created in this Bill to Issue revenue bonds or to utilize any state funds. That was a request from Representative McPike, to remove that, and we have so done. I ask for approval of Amendment 1."
"Mr. Parke, I'm told that I inadvertently called this Bill, that the calling of the Bill was a mistake and 257 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the Bill should be taken out of the record. House Bill 2698, Mr. Hicks. Mr. Clerk, has 2698 been read a Third Time?"
"House Bill 2698 has been read a Third Time and is on postponed consideration."
"Mr. Hicks."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2698 was a Bill we discussed in detail yesterday. It's the Landlord-Tenants Act, and I'd ask for its approval."
"Mr. Hicks, did you wish to call the Bill again?"
"Yes, Sir."
"I see. Alright. So the Bill shall be called on the Order of Third Reading. There are now four people seeking recognition. This is the Landlord-Tenant Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's have your attention. This is the Landlord-Tenant Bill that was thoroughly debated previously. The Chair would suggest that we go to Roll Call and then let people explain their vote. On this question, those who are in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Mr. Greiman to explain his vote."
"Yes, this Bill has not improved. It is not like wine. It does not improve over two days ago. It is a bad Bill for tenants. It is a bad political vote for anybody that has any number of tenants in their... on either side of this aisle. You're going to see brochures that say that on the 22nd day of May, 1987, Representative So and So voted to screw the tenants of this state, and there you're going to find... keep saying 'oh' all you want, but that's what that brochure is going to say. And Mr. Daniel's staff is going to prepare them for our Democratic targets and Mr. 258 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Madigan's staff is going to prepare them for your targets. So if you got tenants... if you got no tenants in your district, then, sure, vote for it. But if you've got any sizable number of tenants, this Bill... ... you could do a brochure that will knock your socks off, and believe me, both sides will. So if you're political, and you'd like to come back, I suggest you vote 'no' on this Bill, or maybe 'present', and we can negotiate some of these things out."
"Mr. Johnson to explain your vote."
"Representative Greiman really didn't mean that. Because I don't think he thinks that casting political votes are what we should do, or casting votes for tenants or against tenants or for landlords or against landlords are what we should do. We're talking about the best Interests of the people of the State of Illinois and our economic and legal system. This is a well considered Bill that's been developed over years and years and years, and I think most people are going to cast a vote, as I think Representative Greiman really thinks they should, based on the merits of this issue and what's best for all the people of the state."
"Representative Braun to explain her vote."
"Mr. Speaker, whether this is a good Bill or a bad Bill seems to me not to be the issue. The fact is, this has been voted on before and there are a number of people in this room who have Bills on the Calendar that haven't even been called yet. It seems to me that in light of the fact, I know you've tried to be fair to the Membership, but to give one Bill like this, which has vehement opposition, I mean it looks like it's passing, but to give it three cracks at the apple, when some people haven't even had their first Bill called, seems to me to be patently unfair and an abuse of the process, Mr. Speaker." 259 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Mr. Matijevich." May 22, 1987
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I've got House Bill 3, 3, that's a pretty early Bill, it's a smoke detector Bill, and I had a feeling it may not be called, but I object to a call... a Bill being called twice just because the Realtors want it, and I can't get a call on a Bill. I think there's Members here that haven't been here since noon, and they're voting on this Bill, and I can't get a Bill called that I've been sitting waiting here all Session."
"Mr. Bowman."
"Number one, Mr. Speaker, I request a verification of this Roll Call, and number two, I would just like to point out that this is the first time this Bill has made it to the floor in many years. We have... while we have had some debate on it at this time, it is not as well considered as Representative Johnson would like to make us believe. I would point out furthermore that it repeals the existing Landlord-Tenants Statute that is now on the books in Illinois, that governs every square inch of the state, whether you have a home-rule community in your district or not. And in particular, it completely revises and rejects several judicial doctrines that have grown up over the years. This is one-sided legislation. It definitely favors landlords over tenants. It is not even-handed. I urge its rejection."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 66 'ayes', 39 'nos'. There has been a request for a verification. Mr. Clerk, poll the absentees."
"A Poll of those not voting. Representative Klemm, Laurino and McNamara."
"Mr. Clerk, read the names of those voting in the affirmative." 260 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Poll of the Affirmative. May 22, 1987 Ackerman. Barger. Barnes. Black. Breslin. Brunsvold. Christensen. Cullerton. correction, Churchill. Countryman. Cowlishaw. Curran. Daniels. De Jaegher. Deuchler. Didrickson. Doederlein. Ewing. Flinn. Virginia Frederick. Goforth. Granberg. Hannlg. Harris. Hartke. Hasara. Hensel. Hicks. Hoffman. Homer. Hultgren. Johnson. Kubik. Leverenz. Hautino. Hays. McAulifte. PcCracken. Mulcahey. Novak. Hyron Olson. Robert Olson. Parcells. Parke. Bernard Pedersen. William Peterson. Petka. Phelps. Piel. Pullen. Rea. Regan. Ropp. Ryder. Saltsman. Sieben. Slater. Stange. Steczo. Stephens. Tate. Halte. Weaver. Wennlund. Williamson. Wojcik and Wolf. No further."
"Are there any questions? Mr. Bowman."
"Mr. Rea? Mr. Rea?"
"Mr. Rea is on the Republican side."
"Okay. Mr. Slater?"
"Mr. Slater is in the rear of the chamber."
"Mr. Stange?"
"Mr. Stange. Remove Mr. Stange."
"Mr. Leverenz?"
"Hr. Leverenz. Remove Hr. Leverenz."
"Mr. Novak?"
"Hr. Novak is in the rear of the chamber."
"Mr. Richmond?"
"Hr. Richmond. Remove Hr. Richmond. Excuse me, the Gentleman is voting 'present'."
"Okay. Mr. Wennlund?"
"Mr. Wennlund is in the chamber and would you return Hr. Leverenz to the Roll Call."
"Ar. Hultgren?"
"The Gentleman is in the aisle."
"Ar. Kublk?" 261 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day
"Kubik?"
"Yes, Sir."
"... is in the center aisle."
"Mr. Olson, Myron Olson?"
"Mr. Olson is in the rear of the chamber."
"Mr. Peterson?"
"Mr. Peterson? He's in his... let me see. they're both here."
"Piel?"
"Mr. Piel? Mr. Piel? Remove Mr. Piel."
"Mr. Barger?"
"Mr. Barger is in the rear of the chamber."
"Well, congratulations, Mr. Speaker. No further questions."
"On this question there are 64 'ayes' and 39 'nos'. This Bill,... Mr. Capparelli would like to be recorded as 'aye'. There being 65 'ayes' and 39 'nos', this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 27... House bill 1355, Representative Didrickson."
"On page 14 of the Calendar. House Bill 1355, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Didrickson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1355 seeks to set up a pilot program at the local level, one which exists at the state level, regarding family and sex education. Sets up instead a state-wide... instead of a state advisory council, we've got a local advisory council at the regional level under the Education Service Centers. It's got parents, it's got educators, It's teachers, It's board... school board members, It's local health officials. It also, then, does an assessment 262 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 on what's going on at the local level and brings its plans and recommendations back down to the School Problems Council, whereby next year we will have some information regarding what just is going on out there. It also gives them a small amount of money, about $10,000.00 in each one of those Education Service Centers, to bring in three professional trainer... training sessions for parents and educators. I ask for your 'aye vote."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 103 'aye', 12 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2746, Mr. Flinn. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2746, on page 21 of the Calendar, it's on the Order of Second Reading, has been read a Second Time previously."
"Mr. Clerk, what Order is this Bill on?"
"The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."
"My information indicates that It's on Third Reading. Alright, the Bill is on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, has it been read a Third Time?"
"No. It has not. House Bill 2746, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relationship to counties. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Flinn."
"Mr. Speaker, this Bill simply lets counties negotiate for selling the right of way for easements the same as the cities have already. That's all it does. It doesn't do anything else. I move for its passage."
"Mr. Cullerton. Mr. Cullerton." 263 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Mr. Speaker, our records show this may have been on the Consent Calendar. I just don't want to have to have two different roll calls on the Bill."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Mr. Speaker, I... it was on the Consent Calendar, I believe. That's what our records show."
"Mr. Flinn, the Bill is on the Consent Calendar. Shall we take it out of the record? Mr. Flinn. Turn on Mr. Flinn."
"Mr. Speaker, I didn't know whether somebody knocked it off and I didn't get the notice, so that's why I'm trying the Bill again. It was on the Consent Calendar, and I was sure it was on there when we passed the Consent Calendar."
"Okay. The matter is on the Consent Calendar, so we'll take it out of the record. House Bill 1490. Mr. Barger."
"On page 7 of the Calendar, House Bill 1490, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Barger."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This merely codifies the fact that Municipal Laws rank other local jurisdictions. As the ranking comes on laws: Federal Laws are first; State are second: Municipal is third and the various minor jurisdictions come under those. This simplifies things for new members of park boards and school districts, so that they won't try to pass laws that won't work. I'd appreciate a 'yes' vote."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Representative Barger, why does the city come ahead of the county?"
"Cities always come ahead of the county, and the primary reason is that in a municipality or in any other building 264 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 where the county build... constructs buildings they have to deal with the city for the water and the water connection, the local police service, fire service and all of those. Therefore, they have to have them come in confirmation with the city rules and regulations. It is the same in the City of Chicago."
"Thank you. Thank you."
"You're welcome."
"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye' those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 46 'ayes', 60 'nos'. The Bill fails. House Bill 2221, Mr. Harris. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 5 of the Calendar, House Bill 2221, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Grant Funds Recovery Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Harris."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. 2221 amends the Illinois Grant Recovery Act. It was a request put in by the Department of Children and Family Services so that it could comply with the audits which have been handed down by the Auditor General, and I would ask for your approval."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Representative Harris, we cannot find the Amendment that was adopted. Was there an Amendment adopted to the Bill?"
"There was an Amendment adopted in Committee."
"What did the Amendment do?"
"The Amendment clarified that the funds dispersed, and it deals with the Grant Recovery Act, the funds dispersed in 265 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 accordance to the law, that the fee for service, purchase of care contracts are not grant funds. and that draws a distinction between the... between the funds."
"Okay. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 111 'ayes', no one voting *no". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House B111 2607, Mr. Kirkland. Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"House B111 2607 is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2607, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified. Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Kirkland."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The B111 sets up a procedure for a misdemeanant to petition a sentencing court to serve a portion or all of his county jail term under conditions of home incarceration. The purpose of the legislation is to put into state law the authorization for courts to use electronic monitoring devices. These devices are becoming Increasingly sophisticated... more sophisticated, affordable and reliable in these kind of situations. The Bill is based on a Kentucky Statute, at this point. And there are several local programs around the country. Including in Lake County, Illinois, that have experimented successfully with these devices. I ask for approval."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those 266 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 In favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 aye', I person voting "no". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House B111 1665, Mr. Giorgi. Mr. Clerk, what Order of Business is this Bill on?"
"House Bill 1665. is on the Order of Third Reading."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 1665, a Bill for an Act creating the Illinois Office of Citizens Ombudsman. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Giorgi."
"Mr. Speaker, this is the Ombudsman Bill... the legislative Ombudsman Bill where the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate submits a nominee to the Governor. The Governor appoints, the Senate confirms and It's much in the same pattern as Governor... Lieutenant Governor Simon of the past, Governor Ryan and the same tenure as Jerry Margolis, but he is responsible to the legislature."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 62 'ayes, 50 nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, Is hereby declared passed. House Bill 521, Mr. McCracken. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 8111 521."
"The Gentleman would prefer not to call the Bill. House Bill 1281. Ladies and Gentlemen. Ladies and Gentlemen, our target for adjournment... our target for 267 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 adjournment is 7:00 with an absolute deadline of 8:00. Now there are still certain Members, Democrats and Republicans, who have a strong interest in having Bills called, so let's stay calm, let's work as effectively as we have all day and we should be able to get the job done. So Mr. McCracken, would like to call House Bill 521. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 521, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, 521 codifies current case law providing for an exception to the Hearsay Rule in the case of statements made to medical personnel for the purposes of diagnosis or treatment, including descriptions of the cause of the symptoms, pain or suffering. It does merely that, and is asked for because there seems to have been some inconsistent application in the trial courts of this rule. I move its passage."
"Mr. Homer."
"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Sponsor yields."
"For the purpose of legislative Intent. Representative McCracken, it is my understanding that under current case laws, specifically People vs. Gant, the 1974 Illinois Supreme Court Case, a general rule was enunced which held that such statements made by a patient to a doctor when consulting for treatment are universally to be admitted as evidence of the facts stated. Your Bill would specifically provide for such an exception to Hearsay Rule when the... when the case involved was one dealing with a prosecution for a sex offense. Is it your intent, therefore, to... to suggest that the exception shall not apply in the prosecution of other cases?"
"No, not at all. The exception is uniform regardless 268 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 of the type of case, and this Bill codifies that."
"Your Bill codifies it with regard to sex offenses, but is It your intent... Π
"Oh, yes. I'm sorry. You're right."
"Alright. Alright. It was... was it your intent to change the current rule with respect to the admissibility of such statements in the prosecution of other kinds of cases."
"No. Not at all and It should not be interpreted as such."
"Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 90 'ayes', 11 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 213, Mr. Matijevich.
"House Bill 213 is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments? Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment... Floor Amendment #1 was adopted previously. Next Amendment is Floor Amendment #2, being offered by Representative Pullen and Hoffman."
"Mr. Homer."
"Mr. Speaker, at this time, being the Sponsor of Amendment #1, I would move to table Amendment #1."
"Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Pullen and Hoffman."
"Representative Pullen."
"Mr. Speaker, I'm not going to put the House through an 269 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 attempt to repeal the Vehicle Emissions Testing Law at this hour, even though that is very badly in need of doing. 50 I withdraw the Amendment."
"Withdraw Amendment #2. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Read the Bill."
"House Dill 213, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Нг. Speaker, Ladles and Gentlemen of the House. House 8111 213 was Introduced because we have sex offenses and drug offenses whereby drivers licenses are revoked. However, no one's licenses are being revoked because notice Isn't being provided. This mandates that notice be provided So it's a good quote 'law and order' Bill against drug and sex offenders and I move... move for its passage."
"Mr. Regan."
"I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker, but inadvertently in the eleventh hour I pushed the wrong button on House Bill 529. I'd like to be recorded as voting 'yes', please."
"Mr. Regan, I missed what you said. Does this relate to another Bill?"
"Yes."
"Let the record reflect your request. Hr. Regan. On House B111 213, those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes, Μг. Speaker, I just wanted to Indicate on the record that I was also a hyphenated Cosponsor of this Bill."
"The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 109 ayes', no one voting "no". This 270 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1281. Mr. Black. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1281, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to fire protection districts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Black."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. i would move to take this Bill back to Second Reading for purposes of a technical Amendment, as suggested by the Illinois Association of Fire Protection Districts."
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"
"I believe it was filed more than a week ago, Mr. Clerk. Amendment #1 to House Bill 1281."
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Black."
"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #1 simply clarifies some language as suggested by the Fire Protection Districts. It deletes all reference to square miles as to how a fire protection district might increase its membership. It does apply for a... or it does ask that a referendum be held if a fire protection district wishes to increase the number of trustees from three to five or seven. I would move amend... or move adoption of House Bill... excuse me, Amendment 1 to House Bill 1281."
"The question is... those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1281, a Bill for an Act to revise an Act 271 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 In relationship to the fire protection districts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, Is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1531. Mr. Farley. Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes. Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill provides that contracts for the purchase of a residential property of four units or less, when the purchaser intends to occupy it as a residence, there be a requirement that the liquidated damages for failure of the buyer to complete the purchase of the property shall not exceed 3% of the cost and the liquidated damages provision in the contract must be signed separately. I'd appreciate your support on the Bill."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1531, a Bill for an Act in relationship to defaults on residential real estate purchase contracts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to it. I know it's well intentioned. However, the parties are competent to contract for themselves. If we were talking maybe about adhesion contracts or something of that nature, I would be more inclined to support this, but I think it's not necessary. It merely clogs the relationship between the two parties."
"Mr. Countryman."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill has a limitation of 3% liquidated 272 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 damages. If 3% is the limitation on 11quidated damages. nobody's going to sell a house on a contract for deed. Contract for deed is something that we have to use. It's a tool we use particularly when mortgage money becomes scarce. I think this is a bad Bill and urge a 'no' vote. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 59 'ayes', 54 'nos'. Mr. Homer."
"Please change my vote to 'aye'."
"Record Mr. Homer as 'aye'. On this question there are 60 'ayes', 53 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2540, Mr. Cullerton."
"On page 30 of the Calendar..."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2540. It's on the Order of Second Reading. It's been read a Second Time previously."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Mr. Speaker, I believe we adopted Amendment #1 to the Bill already. Is that correct, Mr. Clerk?"
"Mr. Cullerton, what is your question?"
"The question is whether or not we adopted Amendment #1 and moved the Bill to Third Reading earlier. I'm almost positive we did. I certainly explained the Amendment earlier today. I'd be happy to do it again if you wish. This used to be on the Consent Calendar. We adopted Amendments on Second Reading when we did the Consent Calendar. It was subsequently taken off the Consent 273 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Calendar and it should be on Third Reading."
"I'm told that you are correct, Mr. Cullerton. The Bill is now on Third Reading."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill deals with the controversy that developed around the Retail Merchants Association and a number of banks that resulted in this compromise, which is supported by both. It permits the drawee bank to also assess a fee against a depository institution. I would appreciate a favorable vote."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting...
"House Bill 2540, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McCracken."
"I rise in opposition to the Bill, Mr. Speaker. There is no reason that the depository institution should also have this as well as the drawee bank. It's not necessary in the chain. It buries the UCC. There is no particular need for it. I stand in opposition."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Homer to explain his vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill has had a history where there's been a conflict between the bankers and the retail merchants, but finally, this year, they... It is my understanding they've sat down and come up with an agreed Bill. I don't... I don't understand why it still has so much opposition. The agreement reached between the parties was that the banks would not be allowed to assess a charge against the depositor of the check, but they would be allowed to assess each other. And as I understand it, that was an agreement and I would urge support." 274 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Have all voted who wish? Hay 22, 1987 The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 54 'ayes', 56 *nos. The Bill having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, fails. House Bill 1702, Mr. Mulcahey. Mr. Clerk, is it still on the Order of Second Reading?"
"The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Parcells."
"Representative Parcells."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Bill that would make Casimir Pulaski Holiday once again commemorative. You've all been told by your teachers and your parents and school boards that the kids are not in school enough. They have almost half of their weeks are four day weeks. He do better honor to our heroes. all of them. by studying them In school, commemorating their birthdates, Instead of having the kids run around not knowing why they are on vacation. This will take that back to a commemorative day and I move for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1702."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no". Those for the Amendment vote 'aye'. those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 63 'ayes', 47 'nos* The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill the Third Time."
"House Bill 1702, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 275 STATE OF ILLINOIS 95th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Representative Parcells. May 22, 1987 Mr. Mulcahey."
"Mr. Speaker, I would yield to Representative Parcells."
"Representative Parcells."
"Well, I think that... that pretty much covers the Bill. The rest of the Bill was somewhat... what... it was a typical Bill, very brief education Bill, having to do with tuition being paid for orphans and so on. The big part of the Bill now is that this will become a commemorative holiday as many others of our great heroes. Kids will study our heroes and know about the heroes of the United States and have that day in school to do other things, too, reading, writing and arithmetic. I move for the passage of House Bill 1702, as amended."
"Mr. Cullerton."
"Yes. Mr. Speaker, just so you know, this... just so It's clear. This was a shell Bill Representative Mulcahey had. This Amendment was just adopted. The Amendment eliminates Casimir Pulaski's birthday as a legal holiday and makes it a commemorative holiday. That's what it does, so certain Representatives who pushed very hard to pass the Casimir Pulaski Birthday Bill would be very upset if this passed, so you can take it from there."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 51 'ayes', 58 'nos'. The Bill, having failed to receive the Constitutional Majority, fails. House Bill 2320, Mr. McCracken, Mr. McCracken, House Bill..."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2320 would require that decisions appealed from the Illinois Highway... or the 276 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 IDOT'S decision relative to highway cuts for entrances and exits be reviewed under the Administrative Review Act rather than by trial de novo. Under the Administrative Review Act the court would consider whether the findings are supported by the evidence heard at the Administrative Appeal and whether the proper law was applied. Under trial de novo an entirely new trial, not bound by the findings of the Administrative Hearing, would be conducted. Trial de novo is the exception to the rule for the appeal of administrative proceedings. This would not affect in any way any homeowners right to just compensation. That would be an entirely separate matter and would be considered by the Circuit Court in the first instance. I move its passage."
"Mr. McCracken, the Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"There are no Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill a Third Time."
"House Bill 2320, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"I move its passage."
"The question is, 'Shall the Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 97 'ayes', 13 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3, Mr. Matijevich."
"House Bill 3, a Bill for an Act in relationship to smoke detectors. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Gary. House Bill 3 is a Smoke Detector Bill that was fairly well debated on Second 277 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Reading. I think everybody knows what it is and I would appreciate your support."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 92 'ayes', 17 'nos'. The Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1035, Representative... House Bill 1035, Mr. Saltsman. Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1035, a Bill for an Act to amend the Wages of Employees on Public Works Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Saltsman."
"Yes. Thank you. Mr. Speaker. This Bill has been here before. It was passed last year. It was signed by the Governor. We've had a recent court case on it and this is a clean up in behalf of its passage. It's a Bill that helps our contractors be able to bid fairly on jobs by having a prevailing wage that everybody must handle. This is just as much of a contractors Bill as it is an employers. I ask for its passage."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Will the Sponsor yield?"
"The Sponsor yields."
"There's no Amendment on this Bill? It merely... not merely... but it requires the publication in the Illinois Register once every calendar quarter? Is that it?"
"This is more of a shell Bill depending on a court case, Representative. Just a shell Bill."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The 278 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 73 'ayes', 34 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Hajority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 605. Mr. LeFlore. Mr. LeFlore. Turn on Mr. LeFlore. Mr. LeFlore."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I think we have an Amendment on this Bill."
"Okay. Mr. Clerk, what Order is this Bill on?"
"House Bill 605 is on the Order of Third Reading."
"Mr. LeFlore, shall we take the Bill back to Second?"
"I do not wish for it to go back to Second, but I would like to respect the person that placed the Amendment, Mr. Speaker. Hojcik and McCracken. I am opposed of the Amendment. I'm... let it move."
"Mr. LeFlore, it's your choice."
"I don't want the Amendment, Sir. Read the Bill."
"Read the Bill on Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 605, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. House Bill 605 amends the Medical Assistance Act of the Public Aid. It directs the Department of Public Aid to discharge... disregard the cost of living increase. I'd like to have a favorable vote on this Bill."
"Representative Wojcik."
"Yes. A question of the Sponsor, please?"
"The Sponsor yields."
"Yes, I'll yie-"
"I'd lik to know if this Bill is a result of Federal legislation?"
"I really wouldn't know, Representative." 279 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Well are these people already eligible for Medicaid, in Illinois, the ones that you are speaking to in the bill?"
"Are they eligible for Medicaid?"
"Already? Already eligible?"
"No, they are not. Not to my knowledge."
"Do you know what the cost would be to this legislation?"
"It would be very minimal."
"What is 'very minimal'?"
"Something like $275,000.00."
"Hould you repeat that?"
"Something like $275,000.00."
"Ladies and Gentlemen, could we please maintain order In the chamber?"
"Representative.... "
"Yes."
"... I think it's at least a half of a million dollars for the cost of your 8111."
"No. I disagree with you. Representative."
"Hell, I believe that's what I heard. But to the Bill."
"Representative Hojcik."
"The Department opposes this Bill and it's flawed in several ways. First, the Federal law which would allow such a disregard was designed to allow those states which don't have a medically needy program to continue medical assistance. Illinois' medical needy program covers persons regardless of receipt of SSI, and secondly, this Bill would create inequity within Illinois' medically needy program and this Bill is both unfair and unaffordable. I move It 'do not pass'."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have ali voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. McCracken to explain his 280 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day vote."
"I seek a verification if it receives votes."
"Mr. Black to explain his vote." May 22, 1987 the number of
"Mr. Speaker, not to explain my vote. I was Indisposed on House Bill #3. I believe my switch may have reflected someone's thinking other than my own. I would like the record to show I would have voted 'no' on House Bill 3."
"The record shall reflect your statement. Mr. Black. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 54 'ayes', 54 'nos'. The Bill, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is lost. House Bill 2030, Mr. McPike. McPike. Mr. McPike."
"The Clerk will read the Bill a Third Time."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2030, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to minimum wages. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a shell Bill dealing with minimum wage. I move for the passage."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 64 'ayes', 49 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 21, Mr. Terzich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 21 deals with the retail sale, and Mr. Speaker, one thing that aggravates me is I really hate the whistling on anybody's Bill because it's very... no really it's very 281 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day disrespectful... " May 22, 1987
"Mr. Terzich, would you address yourself to the Bill, and would the Membership please conduct themselves properly. He are attempting to wind this down so let us give attention to Mr. Terzich."
"Well, thank you, Hr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House B111 21 is a very simple Bill. It limits the distribution of alcoholic beverage in the State of Illinois between certain hours. Basically, the Bil1 prohibits the sale of liquor between 2:00 a.m. in the morning unt11 7:00 a.m. during the weekdays. and from 7:00 a.m. in the morning until 3:00 a.m. on weekends. The It's simplified In the fact that we're restricting the distribution of alcoholic beverages. There's many, many reasons for this, of course. It will not affect approximately 95% of the distributors in the State of Illinois. However, if you are concerned about drunken driving, If you are concerned about the late night bars. you will support the Bill. I would like to stipulate that on drug abuse, that was just printed the other day, which all of you have received a copy, that one million people in Illinois suffer the direct effects of drugs and alcohol. This makes substance abusers our single largest disability group. One of three... "
"Hr. Terzich, would you bring your remarks to a close."
"Yes, I will, Mr. Speaker, but it's extremely important that it comes from the home where one or more family members Is a substance abuser. The overlap between alcohol and the drug fields, that alcohol is a drug. Make no mistake. It's a legal drug, but nonetheless a drug. Alcohol, in fact, is our country's most abused drug and addiction to alcohol, alcoholism has been recognized by the 282 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 medical community as a disease... "
"Mr. Terzich,... "
"Yes, I am coming... "
"... would you please bring your remarks to a close."
"... I shall. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the courtesy. Alcohol is different from drug abusers in some ways. They share the same addiction of characteristics, the legislature recognized the similarities and they have addressed this problem and I would urge your support on House Bill 21."
"The Chair suggests that we proceed to Roll Call and then recognize those to explain their vote. Those in favor of the passage of this Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The Chair recognizes Mr. Mautino to explain his vote."
"I'm not sure that I have to, Mr. Speaker, but I'd like to explain that I think this is something each municipality should make a determination on. Probably the biggest tourism attraction is that night life that is available in the convention cities. If, in fact, you want to enact this statewide, you should move all your convention sites down to downstate Illinois where we already have the 2:00 closing license. Thank you."
"Could we just take the record, Ladies and Gentlemen? Alright. fine. Mr. Shaw, do you have some pearls of wisdom to add? Mr. Shaw wishes to be recorded as 'no'. Would the Clerk record Mr. Shaw as 'no', and Mr. Clerk, could we take... Mr. Ackerman would like to be 'aye'. Mr. Regan, did you wish to speak?"
"I'd just like to make it perfectly clear that due to a late night I voted indirectly wrong on House Bill 521. I'd like to be recorded as voting 'yes'." 283 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"The record will reflect that statement. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 25 'ayes', 79 'nos'. This Bill, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, lost. House Bill 263, Mr. O'Connell."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. This is the Antiquities Bill. It is a Bill that deals with relics and artifacts that are found along state publicly owned lands. It has the support of the Historic Preservation Society, the Department of Transportation and it has... I know of no opposition. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"House Bill 263, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to records. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Mr. Speaker, I'm sure no one's in opposition to this. but we're all going to vote 'no' so we can go home."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Novak. your light is flashing, Sir. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 111 'ayes', 3 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 505, Mr. Brunsvold. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 13, House Bill 505, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Brunsvold."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Briefly, the House Bill 505 is a good faith provision to the Exclusionary Rule. In 1984 the Supreme Court passed a ruling that said that if the warrant for a seizure is obtained from a neutral party. a judge, that during the procedure, if a technical mistake 284 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 is made, the evidence can't be suppressed. I ask for the passage."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all vote who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 68 'ayes', 37 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 576, Mr. DeJaegher. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 576, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. DeJaegher."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can make this rather brief. 576 is supported by the Illinois Banking Association and the Independent Community Banks, the Commissioner of Banks, State of Illinois. This law is presently enacted in 16 states throughout the United States and I move for passage of this Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 74 'ayes', 32 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1003, Mr. Dunn. Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"House Bill 1003, on page 16, is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"There are no Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1003, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill." 285 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Mr. Dunn."
"I move the previous question."
May 22, 1987 "The question is, Shall this Bill pass? Those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no*. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 51 'ayes', 50 'nos'. The Bill, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is lost. House Bill 1023, Mr. Keane. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 17, House Bill 1023, a Bill for an Act to amend the County Hospital Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Keane."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. 1023 is one of the Bills for the Cook County University of Illinois Hospital agreement that we may be working out. It also has one Amendment that was put on. It allows every county except Cook to levy a tax on EAV for maintenance of historical museums. I'd ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 69 'aye', 37 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1024, Mr. Keane. Mr. Clerk... "
"Mr. Speaker, could we take that out of the record and go to 1025?"
"1024 shall be taken from the record. House Bill 1025, Mr. Keane."
"Thank you. This is on Second Reading, I believe."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Hoffman and McCracken." 286 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May 22, 1987 This requires that for every dollar of the U of I debt that's forgiven, If it's ever forgiven in the future, shall require the University to spend a corresponding dollar in providing medical care to Indigent patients. I move its adoption."
"Those for the Amendments... Hr. Keane."
"I'm in opposition to that Amendment."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say "no". Those for the Amendment vote 'aye", those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 78 ayes', 35 'nos". The Amendment Is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Keane, do you wish to call the Bill?"
"Leave the Bill there."
"Okay. The 8111 shall be taken out of the record. Bill." House Bill 1170, Mr. McGann. Mr. Clerk, read the A
"House Bill 1170, on page 33 of the Calendar. Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers Occupation Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McGann."
"Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Members of the Assembly۰ House Bill 1170 is a shell Bill that was to be sent over to the Senate. It comes from the Sales Tax Excise Tax Subcommittee passage." In Revenue Committee. I would ask for
"Those In favor passage of the B111 signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted 287 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 33 'ayes', 67 'nos". The Bill fails. House Bill 2006. Mr. McGann. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"On page 5 of the Calendar, House Bill 2006, a Bill for an Act to establish a bill of rights of persons with developmental disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. McGann."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. House Bill 2006 is a bill of rights for developmental disability. We've worked well with the other side of the aisle on this here. It's going to be a study and to have an implementation plan and then come back to the General Assembly in January 1 of 1989 for that General Assembly's consideration and I'd ask for approval of it... passage of it... House Bill 2006."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Representative, were any Amendments adopted to this Bill?"
"I believe that Representative Ryder..."
"1 and 2 were adopted?"
"We better check it that for."
"Mr. Clerk, have Amendments been adopted to the Bill, and if so, which ones?"
"Amendments #1 and #2 were adopted."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 105 'aye', 8 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1538, Mr. Ronan."
"Yeah, this is an agreed... thank you and Mr. Speaker, 288 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Hay 22, 1987 Members of the House. This is an agreed Bill with the Department of Transportation and the Park Districts. I move for the passage of House Bill 1538."
"Alright. The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Churchill."
"Mr. Churchill. Mr. Churchill. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the aill a Third Time."
"House Bill 1538, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. Third Reading of the Bill."
"I've already explained the Bill. I'd like passage of House Bill 1538."
"Mr. McCracken... The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?" Those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? All targets are advised to vote 'no". Christensen."
"Mr. Speaker, I'm having trouble with my switch and I'd like to be recorded as voting 'no' on House Bill 1170."
"We've got you. Mr... Representative Williamson. Representative Williamson. Please turn her on."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was unsure of how I was going to vote on that Bill. Thank you."
"Sure. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 20 'ayes', 88 'nos'. This Bill, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, fails. House Bill 1699, Mr. Ronan. Mr. Ronan. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 289 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987
"House Bill 1699, a Bill for an Act to amend the Funeral Directors and Embalmers Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Ronan."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is another agreed Bill. Just like the last one. This is a compromise we've worked out with the funeral directors and the cemeteries, and I need to amend it, so I'd like to pass Amendment # whatever it is."
"Mr. Clerk. Right. So the Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second Reading and Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Ronan and McGann."
"Mr. Ronan."
"Floor Amendment #2 is the agreement that's worked out between the cemeteries and the funeral homes. I move for the adoption."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye'. Mr. Huff."
"Mr... I'd like to ask a question to the Sponsor."
"Right. The Sponsor..."
"Just simply... this Amendment is going to allow unlicensed people to sell grave plots and..."
"No. It doesn't."
"They won't be licensed directors, will they?"
"Wrong Bill, Representative."
"Well, what does it do, then. You mind telling us?"
"Yes. Representative McGann is going to explain the Amendment."
"Well, to the Bill... to the Bill, Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. Huff. Mr. Huff, it might help the process if Mr. McGann would speak to the Amendment. Mr. McGann."
"This was an agreed Amendment between the cemeteries and 290 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the funeral directors and It... all it does is clarify the trust fund in a small amount. It also clarifies what the cemeteries can sell in pre-need, and then finally what it does, it states that a person answering the phone, taking a death notice, ordering flowers, does not constitute funeral directing. And this was approved by the Illinois Funeral Directors Association, the Funeral Directors Association of Chicago, and the Cemetery Association. That's all it does. It was also approved by Senator drookins in regards to his part In the task force. Thank you."
"Okay. Thank you."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye'. those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes have It. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, has the 8111 been read a Third Time?"
"The 311l has been read a Third Time."
"Okay. The question is, Shall this Bill pass? Those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. Take the rec... take the record. Have all voted who wish? Please record yourself. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 93 'ayes', 2 'nos'. This 8111, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2102, Hr. Granberg."
"House Bill 2102, on page 6 of the Calendar, a B111 for an Act to amend the Illinois Enterprise Zone Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Granberg."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Hembers of the House. House 3111 2102 provides for the certification of the Greater Centralla Enterprise Zone. I'd appreciate your favorable 291 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day support."
"Those in favor... Mr. McCracken."
"I rise in opposition to this. This... we're short on money. We just can't afford a Centralia outlet."
"Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson."
"How many of the past Enterprise Zones that we've created, how many have we done legislatively, and how many have we done administratively? I don't recall our ever having, maybe we have legislatively created an Enterprise Zone before."
"Mr. Johnson, I'm not sure. We're just trying to be trendsetters, that's all."
"Well, my only brief point would be that if we get in the business of creating Enterprise Zones legislatively, I think we take it into a new strata that nobody really wants to take it into, and I would suggest that perhaps the administrative regulations that we use now are more appropriate for the creation of these Zones than we are to come in with a Bill."
"The question is... Mr. McCracken."
"I seek a verification if It appears to get the required number of votes."
"The question is, Shall this Bill pass?" Those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 66 'ayes', 45 'nos'. Mr. McCracken requests a verification. Mr. Clerk, poll the Absentees."
"Representatives Klemm, McNamara, Richmond, Ronan and Turner are not voting."
"Mr. Clerk, proceed to read the names of those 292 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day voting in the affirmative."
May 22, 1987 "Poll of the Affirmative. Berrios. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Brunsvold. Buglelski. Capparelli. Christensen. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Daley. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Flinn. Flowers. Gigllo. Giorgi. Goforth. Granberg. Greiman. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Homer. Huff. Jones. Kirkland. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Hautino. NcGann. McPike. Horrow. Mulcahey. Novak. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Phelps. Preston. Rea. Rice. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Slater. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Van Duyne. Wennlund. White. Williams. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge and Mr. Speaker."
"Mr. Slater."
"Hr. Speaker, Please change my vote from 'yes' to "no"."
"Change Hr. Slater to 'no". Change Hr. Kirkland to 'no'. Change Mr. Wennlund to "no". Change Mr. Goforth to 'no'. Mr. McCracken, do you have any questions?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. Representative Braun?"
"Representative Braun is in the chamber. Hr. McCracken."
"Representative Krska?"
"Mr. Krska is in his chair."
"Representative Levin?"
"Mr. Levin is at his station."
"Representative Phelps?"
"Mr. Phelps is in the chamber."
"Representative Curran?"
"Mr. Curran is in the front of the chamber."
"Representative Leverenz?"
"Mr. Leverenz is in the front of the chamber."
"Representative Laurino?"
"Mr. Laurino? Remove Mr. Laurino." 293 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 52nd Legislative Day
"Representative Rea?"
"Mr. Rea. Remove Mr. Rea."
"Representative DeLeo?"
"Mr. DeLeo is in his chair."
"Representative Hicks?"
"Mr. Hicks Is on this side of the chamber."
"Representative Martinez?"
"Mr. Martinez... In his chair."
"Representative Flinn?"
"Mr. Flinn is in the rear of the chamber. Is there a leave to verify Mr. Panayotovich in the center aisle?"
"Yes. Representative Hannig?"
"Again? Again? Pardon me, the name again, the last name?"
"Hannig?"
"Hannig is in the chamber. Mr. Keane wishes to change from 'no' to 'aye'."
"Representative Sutker?"
"Mr. Sutker is in the chamber."
"Representative Giorgi?"
"Mr. Giorgi is in the chamber."
"Representative Flowers?"
"The Lady is in the center aisle. Mr. Turner wishes to be recorded as 'aye'."
"Nothing further."
"On this question there are 62 'ayes', 48 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 263, Mr. O'Connell. Mr. O'Connell? The Bill was already passed. 516, Mr. Preston? 516, Mr. Preston. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"I'd ask... I'd ask leave to put this Bill into Interim Study, Mr. Speaker." 294 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Leave Is granted. House Bill Leverenz. House Bill 875. Mr. Steczo. May 22, 1987 867, Mr. 875, Mr. Steczo. Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"House B111 875, on page 13, Is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments? Mr. Clerk?"
"Floor Amendment #l was withdrawn. Floor Amendment #2 Is being offered by Representative Parcells."
"Representative Parcells."
"Please withdraw the Amendment."
"Amendment #2 shall be withdrawn. Are there further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House 8111 875, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Steczo."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House 8111 875 adds to the primary purpose of schooling the two words 'career education. Presently the School Code Includes as the primary mathematics, biology, physical purpose 'language, arts, and social science, fine arts. physical development and health'. He think it's highly appropriate that some consideration be given as a primary goal of education, that career education should be one of those, and high on that list. I would move for the passage, Mr. Speaker, of House Bill 875."
"Mr. Hoffman."
"Will the Sponsor yield to a question?"
"The Sponsor yields."
"Is there a fiscal note been filed in regard to this education... this Bill?"
"Mr. Speaker, yes, there has been." 295 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"What does it say?"
May 22, 1987 "Well the Depart... the Office of Education indicates that the cost to local districts would be 5 to 10 million dollars, however, we have... the State Board of Education Indicates that that would be for assessment purposes and we have found just the other day that there are Federal funds through the Carl Perkins Vocational Education Act that certainly would handle any assessments that could be done. However, we would anticipate that the way you assess the succesS of career education would be how many kids are working after they graduate from school, so that would be the Intention."
"Mr. Hoffman, shall we just go to Roll Call?"
"Five to ten million dollars. Is that all? I think you're right. Mr. Speaker. We should go to Roll Call and get out of here."
"Okay. Let's please be patient. now, Ladies and Gentlemen. We've worked very well to accommodate all of our Members and we'll just be a few more minutes. The question Is. 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Have all voted who wish? Hr. Clerk, open the score board. Hr... So... Mr. Hoffman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen en of the House. You know what it is to be a prisoner? We all know what it is to be a prisoner. Here it is 7:30. We could have been gone an hour and a half ago. We're calling Bills that don't mean anything and probably will not even get out of the Senate Rules Committee, for what reason, I don't know. But Mr. Speaker, this isn't falr. This Isn't fair to all of us."
"Let me simply repeat what I said earlier. He 296 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 have worked throughout this day to accommodate all Hembers. Democrat and Republicans. Now there are a feu Hembers remaining who would like to have Bills called. That's what we're attempting to do. This happens every once in a while. Not every day. You know my policy is not to overwork the House. Especially Republicans, if they just sit there. Now we were ready to take the record. Mr. McCracken, I presume you wish to request a verification. and there are some people who would like to be recorded, so Representative Davis, 'aye": Bugielski, 'aye: Anthony Young. 'aye'; Granberg, 'aye'; Mr. Brunsvold, 'aye'; Mr. Horrow, 'aye'; Mr. Mautino, 'aye'; Mr. Mulcahey change from 'no' to 'aye'."
"The Chalr would suggest that we take another record. Mr. Daniels."
"Are you going to dump this Roll Call and start again?"
"Yes."
"Alright. Well, I'll speak at that point."
Speaker Madigan "Dump the Roll Call. Okay. Back on Roll Call. Those in favor vote 'aye", those opposed vote 'no'. Mr. Danlels?"
"Mr. Speaker, Ladles and Gentlemen of the House. Let's talk specifically about House Bill 875 and the Fiscal Note filed to it. This will cost the local school districts out of the formula, 5 to 10 million dollars that we don't have. Now I know it's getting late and I know that we all want to go home. We're going to stay here and finish our work, I understand that. But, when we're talking about a shortage of Revenues, It's just craziness to pass Bills like this. Particularly when we're talking about trying to hold the line on spending. Shame on you if you think this Bill can be afforded. You know how you have to vote. Cast a 'no' vote. Let's get our work done." 297 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Mr. Ropp."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In all due respect to my leader. If in all. In all of education, if we aren't in every phase of that preparing people for the career or the world of work opportunity, then I'll put in with you. We have for so many years not prepared people to do something after they get ... the field ... after they have completed their education. We have spent millions of dollars for people who have not been educated to do something. This provides that opportunity. If it is only $5 million, I can assure you we have spent billions to take care of those people who have not been prepared for the world of work. And I say it is money well spent."
"Representative Cowlishaw."
"Mr. Speaker, we would find the money somewhere, somehow, if what this Bill did was to teach the children of this State to read, to write and to compute. Because then the jobs would find them. This Bill is absurd."
"Mr. Steczo?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just in response. The Fiscal Note that was prepared by the Office of Education, I think erroneously assumes that separate kinds of assessments are going to have to be done in order to assess career education as a goal. That's not the intent of this Bill. And in fact if there is a means by which we can ... we can provide that type of career education as a goal by putting it in another place in the Statutes, we intend to do that in the Senate. Our intention is to focus education on career education, be it vocational or otherwise and also to try to keep the costs down as best we can, but as a determining factor of success, to have the schools gauge on how many students are working 4,5,6,7 years after graduation, which most do already. And that's the purpose 298 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 and we think that the Office of Education is highly in error in what they provided to us.
"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 57 'aye', 46 'no'. This Bill having falled to receive a Constitutional Majority is 'lost'. 1679, Mr. Turner."
"On page 27 of the Calendar, House Bill 1679, on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative McCracken."
"Mr. McCracken?"
"This deletes the provisions referring to lower or no Interest loans. Requires that any loan made to a municipality be made at the statutory judgement rate, which is 9% Interest, currently. That's charged to all debtors except local governments. I move its adoption."
"Those in favor say 'aye'. Mr. Turner?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand in oppose to this Amendment. And I'm asking a favorable Roll Call from this side of the aisle on it."
"Those for the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 36 'ayes', 70 'nos'. The Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Turner."
"Mr. Turner, on Amendment #2."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. Amendment #2 creates the Illinois Low-Income Housing Trust Fund here in the State of Illinois. There are currently 15 states which have a Housing Trust Fund and 299 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 because of the housing problem that we are confronted with here in the State of Illinois, we feel that this is a step In the right direction. The make-up of this trust group would be 11 members appointed by the Governor. One person being a senior citizen, 4 members ... no more than 4 board members shall reside in any one county in this State. At least 3 board members shall be appointed from nominations made by a community based organizations ..."
"The Gentleman moves for the Amendment. Hr. McCracken?"
"I stand in opposition. Another redundant fund. Another redundant board. Another redundant study. Another redundant appointment provision. Let's be redundant. Let's stop It. Let's go home. Beat the Amendment. Beat the Bill. Send a message to the Speaker. Speaker, let us go."
"Mr. Turner? Mr. Turner."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I think that this issue is a very important issue. And I know a lot of us want to go home but there are people in the State of Illinois who have no home to go to. This Bill, this Amendment would create, or make it possible for people to have a place to go. There are a number of agencies and private organizations which are willing to donate monies to make affordable housing possible. And I'm asking for your favorable Roll Call on this Amendment. It's time to go home, let's make some homes for those who don't have a place to go."
"Those for the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 63 'aye', 47 'no'. The Amendment is 'adopted'. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3 Is being offered by 300 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Representative McCracken."
"Mr. McCracken."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. This provides that no more than 10% of the funds appropriated to the Trust Fund shall be spent in any one county. It ensures distribution equitably throughout the State. I move its adoption."
"Mr. Turner?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I stand opposed to this Amendment. It guts the Bill."
"Those for the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 55 'ayes', 53 'nos'. Mr. Clerk, poll the Absentees."
"Poll of those not voting. Capparelli. Farley. Klemm. Krska. McNamara. Ronan and Ropp."
"Record Mr. Capparelli as 'no'. And record Mr. Krska as 'no'. Record Representative Stern as 'no'. Record Mr. Kirkland as 'aye'. There are 56 ... Mr. Homer. Record Mr. Homer as 'no'. Mr. Curran. Record Mr. Curran as 'no'. On this question there are 54 'ayes' and 57 'nos'. The Amendment 'falls'. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Turner."
"Mr. Turner?"
"Mr. Speaker, in the interest of orderly ... orderliness in the House I should say, I'm going to withdraw Amendment #4. It would have been the funding mechanism for this Trust Fund. But since the leader on the other side thinks that he has a way of coming up with some money, we will discuss that as it comes back over. So I will withdraw Amendment #4." 301 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hay 22, 1987
"The Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #5. offered by Representative McCracken."
"ΑΓ. McCracken withdraws Amendment #5. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the 3111."
"House 3111 1679, a Bill for an Act In relationship to State monies. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Turner."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. Again, this ... what we have now since the Amendments have been adopted is, we have now created the Illinois Housing Trust Fund, which we tried to make housing in this State affordable and available to both low and moderate Income people here in the State of Illinois. I ask for a favorable Roll Call on this Bill. I certainly discussed It in length. It is not a finished plan but it Is an idea that I think its time has come and it's a step in the right direction."
"Mr. McCracken.
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to this. The Gentleman, if by the most recent change in the program, seeks to..in essence, duplicate what the CHA is doing already and apparently what we have taken under. or what we have decided to investigate, this is redundant and I think it just doesn't serve any purpose that isn't already served by the law. This is not the answer. The Investigation of the CHA is the answer. And I think we should oppose the gill."
"Mr. Hallock."
"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. In my opposition to 302 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 the Bill. We had a chance on the last Amendment to make sure that only 10% of this would be spent in any one part of this State. The fact that that was defeated indicates one thing. And we all know It here today. We might as well speak to it on this Bill. And that is, if we pass this Bill this money is going to Chicago. It's not going downstate. It's not going to the Collar county suburbanites. This is going to Chicago. If you vote for this Bill, it's a pure Chicago Bill and you've got to vote "no"."
"Mr. McAuliffe?"
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I was in support of Representative HcCracken's Amendment. I don't think we need to build 75 or 80% of the low income housing in Chicago. I know the people in my neighborhood don't want any more low income housing. So I think we ought to spread this out and let every part of the State get some of the money. Don't give us all the benefits. We don't need it."
"Mr. Churchill?" Churchi11: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would question that perhaps the money from this would go into the CHA and it might be something that we would all want to watch over. I don't think this is a good vote for anybody, upstate. downstate, or any place else."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote *no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Turner."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ... I want to inform the Members of this House that this is not for public housing. This Bill is to help low and moderate Income people here and the entire State of Illinois. Many 303 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HCUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 of you on the other side of the aisle who are now homeowners, your children will not be able to afford the houses in DuPage County and other countles in this State simply because of the rising costs of real estate. This Trust Fund would allow them, as well as the poor and the very poor a chance to get decent housing here in the State of Illinols. The previous speakers were totally wrong in saying that this money is going to CHA, or that all of it is going to the City of Chicago. There has been a match by the Chicago Equity Fund of over $35,000,000 thus far to help in the housing problems that they're having in the City of Chicago. This would try to take care of the needs throughout the entire State. And I would ask and urge each Member to vote 'green' If you're worried, or if you have any compassion or thought about creating housing hera in this State, especially for those who will have no place to go in a very short time."
"Representative Braun."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. It's late and everybody is tired. Jut I wish you would pay very close attentlon to what It is that Representative Turner actually said and what the Bill actually does. It's not a CHA replacement. There already Is a CHA and it's a mess and everybody knows that. What this is about is providing housing for people who work, housing for people who cannot have access to the capital to bulld or buy. that you and I might have in this Chamber. The question is most the people In your district will be affected by this Bill. This is not just a Chicago Bill. That's all the rational argument. The irrational argument In response to some of the legislators who spoke on this is, maybe what we ought to do is take 48 of 48 states and send It Representatives McCracken's district. And take 304 STATE OF ILLINOIS B5th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 50/50 state and send it to Representative Kirkland's district. And take the Cabrini-Green and send it to Representative Churchill's district and we'll spread it out and then you can all deal with low and moderate income housing problems. We won't have the problem any more. Because then you'll have it sitting in your front yard and you will have to come up with some solutions. I'll bet you'll hope that Representative Turner comes back to this General Assembly with a proposal that makes this much sense."
"Mr. Huff."
"Briefly. Very briefly. The State Housing agency in this State. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, has built over a million units in this State. If they put 2 units in my district they will still have 999,998 to go."
"Have all voted who wish? Mr. McCracken?"
"For a verification, Mr. Speaker, if it appears to receive the required number of votes."
"Mr. Bowman?"
"Just to point out that this is actually one of the safest votes that you can make because there is no funding mechanism in the Bill. The Bill is practically a vehicle Bill."
"Mr. Tate?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. A point of information. Did I hear you say that the House would adjourn no later than 8:00?"
"That's what I said."
"Is that clock right up there?"
"I hope so."
"Okay, thank you."
"The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 55 aye", 53 *no. The Bill having 305 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 failed to receive a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared lost. House Bill 867, Mr. Leverenz. Mr. Clerk, Is this Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"House Bill 867. on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representatives Parcells and McAuliffe."
"Representative Parcells. Ladies and Gentlemen, In case any of you think we are adjourning, we are not preparing to adjourn. Representative Parcells."
"Please withdraw the Amendment."
"The Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 86 ... House Bill 867, a Bill for an Act in relationship to registration and licensing of Motor Vehicles used in Transportation of Students. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Leverenz."
"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill would provide that municipalities with fewer than a million inhabitants would be prohibited from licensing vehicles used exclusively for the transport of students. If we could change the board to reflect Third Reading. It passed out of Committee 28-0. I'd ask for your 'aye' vote."
"Mr. O'Connell?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a very bad Bill. I strongly oppose this. Anybody that favors the municipalities in which they represent should vote against this Bill that precludes their ability to issue licenses for the buses that are not 306 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 owned by the school districts. These are private buses and they should be required to purchase their business licenses as well."
"Mr. McCracken?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Apparently what's good enough for the rest of the State is not good enough for Chicago. Chicago is not included in this. I don't know why it doesn't want to be a part of the State of Illinois, but it doesn't. So let's vote against this Bill."
"Those in favor of the Bill, vote 'aye', those opposed vote "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 27 ... 26 'yes', 69 'no'. The B111 fails. 1597, Mr. Cullerton."
"On page 5. House Bill 1597, a 3ill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Cullerton?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladles and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is very simple. It offers a wider cholce of bond availability for Savings and Loans. So they can get their bonds from a trust company or any company authorized to Issue bonds in Illinois. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Excuse me, Mr. Bowman. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 89 'ayes', 16 'no". This Bill having received a Constitut lonal Majority Is hereby declared passed. 1528, Mr. McAuliffe. Mr. McAuliffe? Mr. VanDuyne?" 307 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. May 22, 1987 We have 7 Amendments filed on the Bll1. We'd like to have leave of the House to remove the first 6 and just go with Amendment 67. And leave of the House to bring it back from Third Reading to Second in order to do that."
Reading?"
"Mr. Clerk, is the Bill on the Order of Third "The Bill is currently 011 the Order Reading." Reading. of
Third Speaker Hadigan: "The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second And I believe there are 7 Amendments and there is a request for leave to withdraw the first 6 Amendments. Is leave granted? Leave Is granted. ke are now on Amendment 27. Who is the Sponsor of Amendment #7?"
"Floor Amendment #7 is offered by Representative Van Duyne." VanDuyne: Mr. "Yes, Speaker. Representative McAuliffe Representative Petka and and Representative VanDuyne are Sponsors of Amendment 27. And what it does is just give us the 5 mile access off and on to the highways. for adoption of Amendment 7."
"Mr. VanDuyne, And I'd move there has been a question relative to the Sponsorship. Hr. VanDuyne."
"I have the Amendment right in my hand, Hr. Speaker. It says VanDuyne, Petka and McAuliffe."
Speaker Madigan "You're re talking about the Amendment. computer The tells us that relative to the Bill, Mr. McAuliffe is the Chief Sponsor of the Bill. And there has been an objection to calling the Bill unless the Chief Sponsor consents to the calling of the Bil1. So, Mr. McAuliffe is not here and the Bill shall be taken from the record. 979, Mr. Saltsman. 979, Иг. Saltsman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 308 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Nay 22, 1987
"On page 17 of your Calendar, House Bill 979. a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to Fire Protection Districts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Ar. Saltsman."
"Thank you, Мг. Speaker. This is a Bill that was a agreed Bill between the Associated Fire Fighters of Illinols. the Illinois Professional Fire Fighters Association and the Illinois Fire Fighters Protection District Association. I ask for its passage."
"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting *aye', those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 69 'ayes'. 39 *nos. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority Is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1205. Representative Braun."
"On page 14 of the Calendar, House Bill 1205, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Board rd of Higher Education. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you. Нг. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is the Bill that other Members earlier said that не ought to do. Which is that it provides salaries and compensation equity for academic personnel at our higher... at our universities throughout the State."
"Hr. Hoffman."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Has this Bill been amended by the Sponsor?"
"Mr. Clerk, has this Bill been amended?
"The 8111 is amended with Amendment £2."
Who is the Sponsor of Amendment #27 Hr. Hoffman."
"Thank you, Ar. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to this legislation. It Is 309 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 estimated that by the Fiscal Note that was filed after the Bill was amended that it would cost an additional $9.3 million dollars to Implement this legislation. If you'll look at the legislation what you see that it does in fact, is to tie salaries at universities in this State to the medium level of their national comparison groups. whatever that happens to be by the year 1991. What you're doing in effect, is taking the right of this legislature away to make the... to make the appropriations, as well as to give direction to those people who are involved In the collective bargaining process, as well as the various boards. And I rise in opposition to this legislation."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those In favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 46 aye" 54"no". This Bill having falled to receive a Constitutional Majority is lost. 1574, Representative Stern. Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"House Bill 1574 is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"There are no further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative Stern. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 1574, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Stern."
"Now?"
"Proceed, Representative."
"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I had prepared a very eloquent presentation which I will omit. This is a 310 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Bill which would give grandparents standing in situations that they do not now have it under the law to petition for visitation. And it's a very small but very important addition to the Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. And I... without going into the bond with you, unites grandparents and grandchildren. I urge your "aye" vote."
"Those in favor of the Bill vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 85 'ayes', 16 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. 1706. Mr. Dunn. Mr. Dunn."
"Is this Bill on Second Reading, Mr. Speaker?"
"Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on Second Reading?"
"House Bill 1706 is on the Order of Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments? Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative O'Connell."
"Mr. O'Connell."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 authorizes the State's Attorneys Appellate Service Division to assist County State's Attorneys at their request in the prosecution of drug cases. I would ask for its favorable adoption."
"Mr. Countryman?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to this Amendment. This brings the State Appellate Prosecutor into the Trial Court. I think for years we've had a clear separation between the two and I think it's inappropriate to allow the State Appellate Prosecutor into the Trial Court. It's going to cost us money in the long run. We're going to be 311 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 furnishing State's Attorneys and have a statewide State's Attorney process. I think the State's Attorneys are capable of doing the job themselves and I oppose it. I ask for a Roll Call."
"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye", those opposed say 'no". Those in favor of the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 66 'ayes'. 40 'nos'. The Amendment Is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House B111 1706, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the State Attorneys Appellate Service Commission Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Dunn."
"In addition to the Amendment Just adopted, this Bill would allow the Appellate Prosecutor Service to handle civil appeals. I ask for an 'aye vote."
"Mr. Countryman?"
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill itself is not SO bad but with the Amendment adopted it is one that's going to cost the people of the State of Illinois a great deal of money and create a new precedent. I stand in opposition and ask all people to vote against it."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 66 'ayes", 43 'nos". This Bi11 having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby 312 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 declared passed. House Bill 2165. Mr. LeFlore. Mr. Clerk, Is this Bill on Second Reading?"
"This Bill is on Second Reading."
"Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative LeFlore."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 just clarifies the language of the Bill. I move for its adoption."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2165, a Bill for an Act concerning school dropouts. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Hoffman."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I didn't catch the Amendment that was adopted?"
"Mr. LeFlore?"
"It just clarifies the language in the Bill, Representative."
"Thank you."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 83 'ayes', 24 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. 2260, Mr. Mautino."
"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2260 establishes the Vocational Artistic Oriented Schools. It allows them to provide for off-site use so there's no duplication in computerization or equipment. It also expands the Council that's provided in the legislation by 313 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 two individuals who are from the vocational schools and business entities. I move for its passage."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2260, a Bill for an Act to amend the Private Business and Vocational School Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 105 'ayes'. 3 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. 2350, Representative Currie? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members ..."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 2350, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Currie. Please be brief."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. The Bill provides that people who had child support orders before September 1984 may go back into Court and present a cause of action."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Those for it vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 60 'ayes', 42 'nos'. Mr. McCracken?"
"Verification."
"The Gentleman requests a verification. Mr. Clerk, poll the absentees."
"Poll of those not voting. Farley. Klemm. Kulas. 314 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Hautino.
May 22, 1987 McAuliffe. McNamara. Petka and Ronan." "The Gentleman requests... the Gentleman is truly a Gentleman. The Gentleman withdraws his request for a verification. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2624, Mr. Terzich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2624, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the Metropolitan Fair and Exhibition Authority. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Terzich?"
"Yes. Mr. Speaker.
"Mr. Terzich."
"The House Bill 2624 creates the McCormick Place Rehabilitation Fund. It's a special fund in the State Treasury and the monies in the Fund shall be expended for the purpose of rehabilitating the Convention Hall and Exhibition Building known as McCormick Place. At the present time the McCormick Place is in excess of 20 years old and they have substantial rehabilitation costs in there. At the present time the current economic impact for the State of Illinois is in excess of 2.7 billion dollars. There is no money provided in this Bill and I would urge your support."
"Mr. McCracken?"
"I believe Amendments 2 and 3 got on this and Amendment 2 requires that no monies should be expended for this purpose unless all safety codes are met. And if there is any doubt as to compliance, the Auditor General shall Investigate. No monies should be ... oh, I'm sorry. That's the Amendment. We investigated McCormick Place once, now the Gentleman wants to set up a fund which undoubtedly will be funded later this year if he has his way. And I don't think we should do it because there are 315 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 problems there that we don't know anything about at this point. I think we should investigate before we spend more money."
"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 21 'ayes', 80 'nos'. The Bill fails. 2421, Mr. Levin. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2421, a Bill for an Act in relation ... "
"For what purpose does Mr. Terzich seek recognition?"
"I would like to have a little respect also. Mr. Speaker. You know, I've been sitting here, and I you know. I attentively listen to other peoples' Bills and I don't care to be abused on my legislation. I didn't put it in for nothing. You know we take enough abuse on McCormick Place. The Bill simply set a rehabilitation fund. It's one of the stars in the State of Illinois and I don't need the abuse of all of that. It brings in 2.7 billion dollars and for some of the malarkey that comes out of player codes and everything else, why not have a little confidence. It's a great piece of attraction in the State of Illinois and they're doing a fine job and we don't have to have the wise remarks about ripping off everybody in the State of Illinois. The McCormick Place has been funded by the people of the City of Chicago and the County of Cook and it's not coming from the downstate, it's not coming from ... the money is coming from the City of Chicago. And it deserves the respect of the Bill."
"House Bill 2421, Mr. Levin."
"Mr. Speaker. I would move to ask leave to bring the Bill 316 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 back to Second Reading."
"The Bill shall be place on the Order of Second Reading. Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Levin."
"Mr. Levin."
"I do want the record to reflect that I have filed a disclosure letter which I would ask to be incorporated in this. Amendment #1 Incorporates agreed portions of 2422, 2423 and 2632 pursuant to an understanding in Committee. This is supported by the Illinois Realtors."
"Mr. O'Connell."
"Mr. Speaker, this Amendment is 52 pages long. How are we supposed to digest a Floor Amendment of 52 pages which may have been distributed some time. The Bill Itself, Mr. Speaker, it eliminates many of the vestiges of Condominium Law. I would submit that this Amendment should be defeated and the Bill itself should be defeated overwhelmingly."
"Mr. Peterson."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I would just like to point out to this Body that not too long ago I proposed some government ethics legislation and the Gentleman who's getting up to propose this legislation said that we had a lot of problems and so forth and it was a good piece of legislation. Yet, he's up on this Floor now proposing he has a conflict of interest and is going to file it with the Speaker. Thank you."
"The question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted? Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. The Board is open. Please record yourself. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 7 'ayes', 88 'nos'. And the Amendment 317 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day falls. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments." May 22, 1987
"Third Reading. Mr. Levin, what is your pleasure? The Gentleman does not want the Bill called. House Bill 112, Mr. Shaw."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 112 amends the Housing Authority Act. And all it does is make available the vacant units that are in public housing available to the homeless. And I ask for its passage."
"Mr. Clerk, is this Bill on Second or Third Reading?"
"The Bill is on Third Reading."
"Has it been read a third time?"
"Has not."
"Read the Bill."
"A Bill for an Act in relation to obtaining housing for homeless persons. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 40 'ayes', 63 'nos'. The Bill fails. 24... 2734, Representative Younge. Mr. Clerk, what Order is this Bill on?"
"The Bill appears on Third Reading."
"Read the Bill."
"House Bill 2734, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Community Development Finance Corporation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Younge."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill amends the Illinois Community Finance... Development Finance Corporation and it merely changes the Lieutenant 318 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Governor as Chairman to the Treasurer of the State of Illinois as Chairman. And both the Lieutenant Governor and the Treasurer have agreed to this. There is no opposition to this Bill. And I move for its passage."
"Mr. Hoffman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in opposition to this legislation. I think if you'll read it carefully you'll know why."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify ... Mr. McPike? Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 52 'aye', 57 'no'. The Clerk shall poll the absentees."
"Poll of those not voting. Farley. Jones. Klemm. Kulas. McAuliffe. McNamara and Ronan."
"Record Mr. Brunsvold as 'aye'. Record Mr. O'Connell as 'aye'. Record Mr. Buglelski as 'aye'. Record Mr. Hautina as 'aye'. Record Representative Jones as 'aye'. Record Mr. Homer as 'aye'. Record Mr. Novak as 'aye'. Record Mr. Capparelli as 'aye'. On this question there are 60 'ayes and 50 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. House Bill 1060, Mr. Curran."
"House Bill 1060, a Bill for an Act to amend the Firemen's Disciplinary Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Curran?"
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This Bill simply says you've got to give a firefighter 3 days notice whether he's going to have a serious case facing him or a minor case facing him before being subjected to questions relating to a allegation of misconduct."
"Those in favor of the Bill ... Mr. Hallock." 319 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day
May 22, 1987 "Did you say you have to give the Department 3 days notice before a serious fire?"
"Those in favor of this Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 72 'ayes', 35 'nos'. The Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1145, Representative Braun. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1145, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain organizations which discriminate. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Braun."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. All this Bill says is that we won't spend taxpayer money with private clubs that don't allow women and don't allow minorities to join. That's all it says."
"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 76 'ayes', 25 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 653. Mr. Hicks. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 653, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of an Act relating to the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Hicks."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is the repeal of ..... card. And I'd ask for its adoption."
"Mr. Cullerton?" 320 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987
"Yes. I'm opposed to this, for what it's worth."
"Mr. Greiman? Mr. Bowman?"
"I wanted to stand in opposition to this piece of legislation. This is a pretty controversial piece of legislation. I think calling it at 8:35 on deadline night would not be ... give it an adequate airing and I would urge the defeat of this Bill."
"Mr. Tate?"
"I'm for it."
"That takes it down. Mr. Stephens?"
"I'm with Tate."
"That takes it down. Mr. Olson?"
"Go for Northwestern Illinois."
"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk ... Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Mr. Bowman? On this question there are 67 'aye', 37 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 29, Representative Younge. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 29, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metro-East Sanitary District Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker ..."
"Representative Younge."
"and Members of the House. I move for the adoption of House Bill 29 which would require that on a Regional Sewage Treatment Plant in the Metro-East Sanitary District that all the communities served would be members of the Board. I move for the adoption of the Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all 321 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 voted who wish? Mr. Turner? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 34 'ayes', 65 'nos'. The Bill 'falls'. Is there anyone else who wishes to call a Bill? Is there anyone else who wishes to call a Bill? Representative Flowers, do you wish to call a Bill? What Bill is it? 465. Mr. Clerk, call the Bill. 465. 425. 2465. 2465. To the Republicans, remember what Reagan said. Just vote with your feet. Representative Flowers."
"House Bill 2465, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading ... Second Reading of the Bill."
"Representative Flowers. Second Reading of the Bill. Are there any Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Flowers."
"Withdraw."
"Withdraw #1."
"Amendments 1 and 2."
"And withdraw #2."
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Flowers."
"Amendment #3 becomes the Bill and I move for its adoption."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those against the Amendment say 'no'. Those for the Amendment vote 'aye', those against the Amendment vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 62 'ayes', 41 'nos'. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. 322 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Clerk, read the aill. Representative Flowers."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This ... my Bill was gutted for rehabilitation for housing and this Bill merely makes technical changes. This is a JCAR Bill. There's no monies involved and it makes technical changes for a Bill that we passed 2 years ago."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2465, a Bill for an Act to amend the
Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Speaker Madigan: "Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no". This is a JCAR 3111. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Ar. Mautino?"
"Thank you very much. Hr. Speaker. You asked if anyone would like to have a Bill called. If you've got time I'd like to have 1585 called. If ..."
"Let me declare this one passed. Mr. Daniels?"
"I think that the Clerk accidentally hit the button. You've got the wrong Bill up there. We were debating Representative Flower's Bill and then he put another one up there. Now, Jack, do as you're told to do. Don't use your mind."
"Alright the question is on House 8111 2465 there are 89 'aye", 10 'no'. The Bill having received a Constitutional Majority ... Mr. Hallock. Mr. Hallock."
"Mr. Speaker, I don't really believe 2465 is a JCAR Bill. If has nothing to do with JCAR. It affects the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs and low housing ... low Income housing. Now, she may have 2 separate Bills and may be confused. But, it appears that this Bill is not that type of issue."
"The Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Mr. Mautino." 323 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1937
"Yes, Sir. You asked for additional Bills. 1585 is an Entrepreneurship Act that received no opposition and I'd like to have it called at this point."
"1585. House Bill 1585."
"House Bill 1585, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regency Universities Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Mr. Mautino."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. This sets up the Entrepreneurship Act which is a combination of Private Enterprise and Higher Education. Matching funds on a decreasing basis. It's a good philosophy and I think it should be considered and provided. I move for the passage of House Bill 1585."
"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 102 'ayes', 5 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Mr. Huff?"
"Yes, Oh bless you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for the purpose of a Motion, Mr. Speaker. Very briefly, being the principal Sponsor of House Bill 839 and House Bill 38, pursuant to House Rule 37, I humbly beseech you to recommit my Bills to Interim Study Calendar on the Committee ..."
"Is there leave? Leave is granted. The Bills shall be placed on the Order of the Interim Study Calendar. The Chair recognizes Mr. Daley."
"Mr. Speaker, on House Bill 653 I was recorded as voting 'yes'. I would like the record to show that I would like to be recorded as 'no'."
"It shall be so noted. Mr. Churchill?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. You're asking if we could hear some other Bills. I think House Bill 7 would be a great 324 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Bill to hear at this time."
May 22, 1987 "The Clerk can't find that one, Mr. Churchill. Representative Braun."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On House Bill 20, which was voted on last night, my switch was inadvertently but not by me voted in error. I would like to recorded as wanting have voted 'yes' on that Bill."
"It shall be so noted. Wojcik: to Representative Wojcik." to "Yes, Mr. Speakeг. This really doesn't have anything do with a Bill. But I would like to put in a personal request that the ladies washroom gets completed. It has been a terrible, terrible inconvenience this week to go out all over the place to find a comfortable position to be in. So, you would be so kind as have it repaired that we will be able to utilize it next week, I think we would all appreciate it."
If Speaker Madigan: "Иг. Воwman?"
"Yes. Just to say that on House Bill 1205 I was recorded as 'yes'. That Is a Higher Ed Bill and I do wish to be recorded as voting present"."
"It shall be so noted. Hr. Levin?"
"Since I didn't do so well before... I had a Bill that was inadvertently knocked off the Consent Calendar. It's agreed to by the other side with an Amendment. House dill 1359."
"1359. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House B111 1359, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Chemical Safety Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The question is, 'Shall the 6111 pass?' Levin?"
Hr. Levin: "Leave to take it back to Second to make it an agreed Bill."
"The Bill shall be placed on the Order of Second 325 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day Reading.
May 22, 1987 Are there any Amendments?" "Amendment #3, offered by Representative Levin." "Mr. Levin?"
"Amendment #3 basically guts the Bill so that negotiations on emergency response can continue in the Senate. With this Amendment it becomes an agreed Bill."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is 'adopted'. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Bill having been read a third time, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Peterson?"
"Just like to tell this side of the aisle that this Bill has been agreed upon and I urge an 'aye' vote."
"The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 91 'ayes', 14 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Mr. Stephens."
"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Just to wish the CUBS good luck this weekend."
"Representative Younge?"
"Yes. Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I would like to call House Bill 899."
"1889. Pardon me?"
"899."
"899. House Bill 899. Mr. Clerk?"
"House Bill 899..."
"On what Order is the Bill?"
"The Bill is on Third Reading. A Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading 326 52nd Legislative Day of the Bill."
STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE "Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." May 22, 1987
"I just read it."
"Thank "Representative Younge." you, Mr. Speaker. Last year the Governor signed into law the Metro-East Solid Waste Disposal Act. I promised as a part of that signing that I would take off the EPA Director as one of the members of the Board. And this Bill... this is all this Bill does. And I move for the passage of the Bill."
"The question is, 'Shall the Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 43 'ayes', 51 'nos'. The Bill fails. House Bill 994, Mr. Giglio. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 994, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 994 allows the Dorchester Club in the Village of Dalton to sell liquor. It was a facility that was owned privately and taken over by the Village. And it's huge enough to have banquets and now they would like to sell liquor. I would ask for your favorable support."
"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Mr. LeFlore?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like to call 25 ... House Bill 2516."
"This will be the last Bill, Mr. LeFlore. The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there shall be 79 'ayes', 23 'nos'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Mr. 327 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 LeFlore, your number?"
"2516."
"2516? This shall be the last Bill. 2516. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2516, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Rehabilitation of Disabled Persons. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment 1 was withdrawn. Amendment 2 was adopted."
"Mr. Clerk, is the Bill on the Order of Second Reading?"
"The Bill is on the Order of Second Reading."
"And is there an Amendment #3?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative McCracken."
"Mr. McCracken, on Amendment #3. Withdraw Amendment #3. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Amendment #4, offered by Representatives Flowers and LeFlore."
"Representative Flowers on Amendment #4."
"Amendment #4, Mr. Speaker, says that the Home Service Counsel Evaluation Plan provides in Amendment #2, relies on the evaluation of persons hired prior for the Housekeeping Services. And I move for its adoption, please."
"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 2516, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Rehabilitation of Disabled Persons. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye'. those opposed vote 'no'. Have all 328 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 73 'aye', 34 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 'passed'. The Chair will now announce that the Bills on the Consent Calendar all passed. And that those Bills having received a Constitutional Majority are hereby declared passed. Mr. McPike is recognized for a Motion. Mr. McPike."
"Thank you. If the Clerk will read the Motion, I'll move for its adoption."
"Mr. Clerk, read the Motion. There are 3 Motions, Mr. Mc Pike. Read them all, Mr. Clerk."
"Motion, I move to suspend the provisions of House Rule 37(g) as they pertain to House Bills 41 and 2804 so that consideration of such Bills may be continued through the last day of the Fall 1987 Veto Session."
"I move for the adoption of the Motion."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Motion. Those in... those in favor of the Motion signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? This Motion relates to House Bills 41 and 2804. And on that question, the Clerk shall take the record. There are 97 'ayes', 5 'nos'. The Motion is adopted. Mr. McPike."
"I move to suspend Rule 37 with regard to the following agency budget, House Bills 482, 483, 777, 73, 777, 778, 783, 784, 789, 791, 792, 799, 1275, 1276, 1897 so that the Third Reading Deadline of these Bills is extended through Friday, May 29, 1987."
"Mr. McPike."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I should add that it's an understanding between the leadership of both sides that any 329 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEВАТЕ 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Amendments filed to these Appropriation Bills after today's date will not be viewed favorably. I move for the adoption of the Hotlon."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Hotlon. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed vote 'no'. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 97 'ayes', no one voting 'no". This Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk, read the last Motion."
"I move to suspend Rule 37 with regards to House Bill 876, 963, 1202, 1409, 1774 and 2075 so that the Third Reading Deadline of these Bills is extended through Friday, Hay 29, 1987."
"Mr. McPike?"
"I move for the adoption of the Motion."
"Those in favor of the Motion signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 94 'ayes', 2 'nos'. The Notion is adopted. Mr. Clerk, read the Adjournment Resolution."
"House Joint Resolution 85. Resolved, by the House of Representatives the 85th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that when the House of Representatives adjourn on Friday, May 22, 1987, it stands adjourned until Thursday, May 28, 1987 at 12:00 noon. And when the Senate adjourns on Friday, May 22, 1987, It stands adjourned until Wednesday, May 27, 1987, 12:00 noon."
Speaker Madigan "Mr. Clerk, repeat that. Mr. Clerk?"
"When the House adjourns on Friday, they return on Thursday, Hay 28th. When the Senate adjourns on Friday, they return on Wednesday, Hay 27th."
"You've all heard the Motion and Mr. AcPike 330 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 moves to adopt the Adjournment Resolution. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. Before you walk out the door please be advised that we shall stand in Perfunctory Session for a short time tonight to accept Motions to place Bills on the Interim Study Calendar. To also read Hessages from the Senate. Also the Members who are advised to become the Sponsors of Senate Bills in the next few days, so that we can start moving the Senate Bills through the House process. And as you heard in the Resolution, we will return on Thursday, May 28th at 12:00 noon. The Chair would like to thank all Members for their excellent cooperation through the last two weeks. These weeks have been very difficult. There have been, numerous Bills and there has been a heightening of the tension given the failure of certain Bills and the Inability to get other Bills called. So, I am very thankful to all of you for your outstanding work and your outstanding patience. I wish you a very happy holiday weekend and please drive carefully and we'll see you next Thursday. So, on that, Mr. HcPike. Mr. Daniels."
"Mr. Speaker. you're Invited to Bensenville for the Parade on Hemorial Day. And then after that you can slip over to Itasca and then meet us in Elmhurst after that. Have a good Memorial Day."
"Thank you."
"You're welcome."
"The Motion is that we stand adjourned until Thursday at 12:00 noon. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The House does stand adjourned until next Thursday at 12:00 noon. Thank you again."
"Senate Bills, First Reading. Senate Bill 387, 331 52nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 460, Didrickson, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 956, Brunsvold, a Bill for an Act in relation to the calculation of State Aid to School Districts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1096, Martinez, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1222, McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act in relation to taxes. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 713, Didrickson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 714, Barnes, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Civic Centers. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 716, Giglio, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 717, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 720, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Beer Industry Fair Dealing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 736, Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 760, Jones, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 762, Tate, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to development of the Agricultural Enterprise. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 767, Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 776, Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend sections of the Illinois Blood Bank Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 790, Sieben, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 794, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First 332 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 798, Hautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Dental Practice Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 814, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to improve delivery of health care services in rural areas in Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 820, Saltsman. a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Fire Protection Districts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 822, Countryman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 831. Dunne a Bill for an Act to amend the Regional Transportation Authority Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 833, Currie, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 834, Saltsman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 841, Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 848, DeJaegher, a Bill for an Act to create the Quad Cities Regional Economic Development Authority. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 854, Hautino, a Bill for an Act relating to Truancy. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 855, Klemm, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 856, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 861, B. Pederson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 865. Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to create the Pension Laws Commission. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 873, Keane, a Bill for an Act relating to fees for the privilege of applying for or holding the license practice law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 875. Satterthwaite, a Bill for an Act to provide for the Illinois College Savings 333 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 Bonds. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 883, Klemm, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 884, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the County Cooperative Extension Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 886, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to provide for the establishment of a Rural Health Care Systems Unit within the University of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 896, Satterthwaite, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 897, White, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 898, Braun, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 903, Hojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to Labor. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 905, Regan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 907, Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Jank Holding Company Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 909, Regan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 910, McCracken, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to standardize definition of Criminal History Record Information. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 914, Daniels, a Bill for an Act in relation to Superconducting Super Collider Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 917, Mays, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Seed Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 924, H. Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Wildlife Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 926, Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the Illinois Department of State Police. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 931, Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. 334 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day May 22, 1987 First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 935, Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Bank Holding Company Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 937, DeJaegher, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 938, Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Nursing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 939, Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Care Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 947, Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 952, Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 957, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regulatory Sunset Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 962, Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Beer Industry Fair Dealing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 968, Johnson, a Bill for an Act in relation to the finances of the University of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 972, Martinez, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning rights of medical patients. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 977, Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 982, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 986, Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to counties. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 988, White, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 990, Deleo, a Bill for an Act to amend the Bank Holding Company Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 995, White, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1001, Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil 335 92nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Procedure. First Reading of this Bill. House Bill (sic-Senate Bill.) 1013, Kulas, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection
Act. First Reading of the Bill. Clerk Leone: "Senate Bill 1043, offered by Representative Breslin, a Bill for an Act relating to the membership representation on inter- scholastic athletic organizations. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1047, offered by Representative Hasara, a Bill for an Act in relation to reading machines for blind and visually handicap. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1050, offered by Representatives Keane and Frederick, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1076, offered by Representative Capparelli, a Bill for an Act relating to Pensions. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1089, offered by Representatives Flowers and Morrow, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Chemical Safety Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1101, offered by Representative Martinez, a Bill for an Act creating the Board of Higher Education. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1103, offered by Representative Martinez, a Bill for an Act to provide admissions information to prospective students of state supportive colleges and universities. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill. 1115, offered by Representatives Rice and Shaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Insurance Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1123, offered by Representative Kirkland, a Bill for an Act to amend Act to the relationship to solid waste management. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1125, offered by Representative McNamara, a Bill for an Act to require drug and alcohol testing of designating employees exposed to low level or high level to radioactive waste. First Reading of the Bill. 336 92nd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 22, 1987 Senate Bill 1129, offered by Representative White, a Bill for an Act to require prompt payments by the State of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1137, offered by Representatives Keane and William Peterson, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1154, offered by Representative Ewing, a Bill for an Act to imposes tax on cannabis and controlled substances. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1155, offered by Representative Braun, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. First Reading of Bill. Senate Bill 1159, offered by Representative Barnes, a Bill for an Act relating to polygraph examinations. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 493, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act in relationship to counties. First Reading of the Bill."
"There being no further business, the House now stands adjourned." 337 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 22, 1987 PAGE 1 HB-0003 THIRD READING PAGE 277 HB-0021 THIRD READING PAGE 281 HB-0029 THIRD READING PAGE 321 H3-0042 THIRD READING PAGE 206 HB-0062 THIRD READING PAGE 206 HB-0085 THIRD READING PAGE 206 HB-0087 THIRD READING PAGE 206 HB-0100 THIRD READING PAGE 206 HB-0112 THIRD READING PAGE 318 HB-0113 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-0113 THIRD READING PAGE 206 HB-0116 THIRD READING PAGE 228 HB-0124 THIRD READING PAGE 207 H3-0126 THIRD READING PAGE 179 HB-0181 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0194 THIRD READING PAGE 217 HB-0213 SECOND READING PAGE 269 HB-0213 THIRD READING PAGE 270 H3-0252 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0259 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0263 THIRD READING PAGE 284 HB-0275 THIRD READING PAGE 245 HB-0295 RECALLED PAGE 220 HB-0295 THIRD READING PAGE 220 HB-0298 THIRD READING PAGE 207 H3-0319 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0321 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0327 RECALLED PAGE 247 HB-0327 THIRD READING PAGE 247 HB-0327 THIRD READING PAGE 249 HB-0331 SECOND READING PAGE 246 на-0331 THIRD READING PAGE 247 HB-0337 THIRD READING PAGE 251 HB-0345 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0349 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0361 RECALLED PAGE 38 HB-0361 THIRD READING PAGE 38 HB-0361 THIRD READING PAGE 207 H3-0395 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0398 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0406 THIRD READING PAGE 207 H3-0422 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0429 RECALLED PAGE 37 Hа-0429 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0443 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0471 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0475 THIRD READING PAGE 164 HB-0478 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0486 RECALLED PAGE 98 HB-0486 THIRD READING PAGE 99 HB-0504 THIRD READING PAGE 207 HB-0505 THIRD READING PAGE 284 H3-0521 THIRD READING PAGE 268 HB-0522 RECALLED PAGE 39 H3-0522 THIRD READING PAGE 39 HB-0522 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0524 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0525 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0526 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0527 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0528 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0529 THIRD READING PAGE 144 HB-0566 THIRD READING PAGE 46 HB-0576 THIRD READING PAGE 285 HB-0590 THIRD READING PAGE 141 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX HAY 22, 1987 PAGE 2 HB-0605 RECALLED PAGE 279 HB-0605 THIRD READING PAGE 279 HB-0627 THIRD READING PAGE 47 HB-0627 THIRD READING PAGE 50 H3-0627 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 47 HB-0643 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0653 THIRD READING PAGE 320 HB-0669 THIRD READING PAGE 180 HB-0671 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0677 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0681 RECALLED PAGE 204 HB-0681 THIRD READING PAGE 204 HB-0681 THIRD READING PAGE 205 HB-0696 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0727 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0736 THIRD READING PAGE 47 HB-0745 THIRD READING PAGE 208 на-0746 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0747 THIRD READING PAGE 208 H8-0795 THIRD READING PAGE 202 HB-0814 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0867 SECOND READING PAGE 306 HB-0867 THIRD READING PAGE 306 HB-0868 RECALLED PAGE 40 HB-0868 THIRD READING PAGE 40 HB-0868 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0871 SECOND READING PAGE 14 HB-0871 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0875 SECOND READING PAGE 295 HB-0875 THIRD READING PAGE 295 HB-0899 THIRD READING PAGE 326 HB-0915 THIRD READING PAGE 181 HB-0925 THIRD READING PAGE 129 HB-0935 THIRD READING PAGE 181 HB-0942 RECALLED PAGE 45 HB-0942 THIRD READING PAGE 45 HB-0942 THIRD READING PAGE 208 HB-0968 SECOND READING PAGE 232 HB-0968 THIRD READING PAGE 233 HB-0975 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-0979 THIRD READING PAGE 309 HB-0982 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-0994 THIRD READING PAGE 327 HB-1000 THIRD READING PAGE 163 HB-1002 THIRD READING PAGE 209 H3-1003 SECOND READING РАБЕ 285 H3-1003 THIRD READING PAGE 285 HB-1023 THIRD READING PAGE 286 HB-1025 SECOND READING PAGE 286 HB-1025 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 287 HB-1030 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1034 RECALLED PAGE 250 HB-1034 THIRD READING PAGE 249 HB-1035 THIRD READING PAGE 278 HB-1040 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1045 THIRO READING PAGE 173 HB-1047 SECOND READING PAGE 15 HB-1048 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1050 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1058 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1060 THIRD READING PAGE 319 HB-1072 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1093 THIRD READING PAGE 198 HB-1096 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1109 THIRD READING PAGE 209 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 22, 1987 PAGE 3 HB-1113 SECOND READING PAGE 17 H8-1113 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1145 THIRD READING PAGE 320 HB-1147 THIRD READING PAGE 209 H8-1154 THIRD READING PAGE 117 HB-1168 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1170 THIRD READING PAGE 287 HB-1176 THIRD READING PAGE 182 HB-1187 SECOND READING PAGE 253 HB-1187 THIRD READING PAGE 253 HB-1205 THERD READING PAGE 309 HB-1206 THIRD READING PAGE 161 HB-1218 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1225 THIRD READING PAGE 51 HB-1225 THIRD READING PAGE 57 HB-1225 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 51 HB-1228 SECOND READING PAGE 17 HB-1228 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1229 THIRD READING PAGE 136 HB-1242 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1253 SECOND READING PAGE 19 HB-1253 THIRD READING PAGE 209 HB-1268 THIRD READING PAGE 51 HB-1278 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1281 RECALLED PAGE 271 HB-1281 THIRD READING PAGE 271 HB-1261 THIRD READING PAGE 271 HB-1290 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1295 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1297 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1302 THIRD READING PAGE 161 HB-1304 SECOND READING PAGE 87 HB-1304 THIRD READING PAGE 90 HB-1309 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1310 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1312 THIRD READING PAGE 85 HB-1320 RECALLED PAGE 256 HB-1320 THIRD READING PAGE 256 HB-1320 THIRD READING PAGE 257 HB-1341 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1353 SECOND READING PAGE 222 HB-1353 THIRD READING PAGE 225 HB-1355 THIRD READING PAGE 262 HB-1359 RECALLED PAGE 325 H3-1359 THIRD READING PAGE 326 HB-1365 THIRD READING PAGE 182 H3-1384 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1386 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1391 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1392 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-1392 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1415 THIRD READING PAGE 52 HB-1420 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1421 THIRD READING PAGE 210 H3-1428 THIRD READING PAGE 174 HB-1429 THIRD READING PAGE 174 HB-1430 SECOND READING PAGE 175 HB-1430 THIRD READING PAGE 175 HB-1431 THIRD READING PAGE 176 HB-1432 THIRD READING PAGE 176 HB-1433 THIRD READING PAGE 177 HB-1434 SECOND READING PAGE 178 HB-1434 THIRD READING PAGE 178 HB-1435 THIRD READING PAGE 179 HB-1446 THIRD READING PAGE 183 12/09/87 10:46 1 PAGE 4 STATE OF ILLINDIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX HAY 22, 1987 HB-1461 THIRD READING HB-1463 SECOND READING H3-1463 THIRD READING HB-1471 THIRD READING PAGE 210 PAGE 20 PAGE 210 PAGE 54 HB-1484 THIRD READING PAGE 185 HB-1490 THIRD READING PAGE 264 H8-1502 THIRD READING PAGE 128 HB-1513 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-1513 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1526 THIRD READING PAGE 210 H3-1528 RECALLED PAGE 307 HB-1528 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 308 HB-1531 THIRD READING PAGE 272 HB-1537 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-1537 THIRD READING PAGE 210 HB-1538 SECOND READING PAGE 289 HB-1538 THIRD READING PAGE 289 HB-1556 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-1556 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1567 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1574 SECOND READING PAGE 310 HB-1574 THIRD READING PAGE 310 HB-1583 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1585 THIRD READING PAGE 324 HB-1590 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-1590 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1592 SECOND READING PAGE 100 HB-1592 THIRD READING PAGE 107 HB-1597 THIRD READING PAGE 307 HB-1623 THIRD READING PAGE 53 HB-1632 SECOND READING PAGE 21 HB-1632 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1656 THIRD READING PAGE 234 HB-1665 THIRD READING PAGE 267 HB-1672 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1679 SECOND READING PAGE 299 HB-1679 THIRD READING PAGE 302 HB-1684 THIRD READING PAGE 116 HB-1699 RECALLED PAGE 290 HB-1699 THIRD READING PAGE 290 HB-1702 SECOND READING PAGE 275 HB-1702 THIRD READING PAGE 275 HB-1706 SECOND READING PAGE 311 HB-1706 THIRD READING PAGE 312 HB-1735 SECOND READING PAGE 22 HB-1735 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1740 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1744 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-1744 THIRD READING PAGE 211 H8-1748 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1768 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1770 DISCUSSED PAGE 23 HB-1780 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1793 THIRD READING PAGE 186 HB-1806 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1812 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1814 SECOND READING PAGE 234 HB-1814 THIRD READING PAGE 235 HB-1818 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1828 SECOND READING PAGE 23 HB-1828 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1839 THIRD READING PAGE 211 HB-1852 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1867 RECALLED PAGE 41 НВ-1867 THIRD READING PAGE 41 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX HAY 22, 1987 PAGE 5 HB-1867 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1896 SECOND READING PAGE 24 HB-1896 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1908 THIRD READING PAGE 251 HB-1912 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1919 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1925 SECOND READING PAGE 24 HB-1925 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1937 THIRD READING PAGE 162 HB-1946 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1955 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1968 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-1998 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2006 THIRD READING PAGE 288 HB-2013 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2030 THIRD READING PAGE 281 HB-2034 THIRD READING PAGE 109 HB-2043 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2044 THIRD READING PAGE 60 HB-2070 THIRD READING PAGE 65 HB-2093 RECALLED PAGE 148 HB-2093 THIRD READING PAGE 148 HB-2093 THIRD READING PAGE 149 HB-2102 THIRD READING PAGE 291 HB-2105 SECOND READING PAGE 24 HB-2105 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2113 RECALLED PAGE 42 HB-2113 THIRD READING PAGE 42 HB-2113 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2116 SECOND READING PAGE 24 HB-2116 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2142 SECOND READ ING PAGE 25 HB-2165 SECOND READING PAGE 313 HB-2165 THIRD READING PAGE 313 HB-2173 THIRD READING PAGE 252 HB-2175 THIRD READING PAGE 253 HB-2185 THIRD READING PAGE 221 HB-2190 THIRD READING PAGE 188 HB-2203 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2206 SECOND READING PAGE 25 HB-2206 THIRD READING PAGE 212 HB-2207 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2207 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2219 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2221 THIRD READING PAGE 265 HB-2239 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2239 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2241 SECOND READING PAGE 151 HB-2241 THIRD READING PAGE 152 HB-2247 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2260 THIRD READING PAGE 313 HB-2269 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2274 THIRD READING PAGE 67 HB-2276 THIRD READING PAGE 67 HB-2298 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2315 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-2315 DISCUSSED PAGE 213 HB-2316 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-2316 DISCUSSED PAGE 213 HB-2320 SECOND READING PAGE 276 HB-2320 THIRD READING PAGE 277 HB-2321 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-2321 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2327 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-2327 THIRD READING PAGE 213 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 22, 1987 PAGE 6 HB-2328 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2331 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2339 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2350 THIRD READING PAGE 314 HB-2363 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2364 RECALLED PAGE 188 HB-2364 THIRD READING PAGE 188 HB-2364 THIRD READING PAGE 189 HB-2373 SECOND READING PAGE 28 HB-2373 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2376 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-2376 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2377 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-2377 THIRD READING PAGE 213 HB-2384 RECALLED PAGE 190 HB-2384 THIRD READING PAGE 190 HB-2384 THIRD READING PAGE 193 HB-2410 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2421 RECALLED PAGE 316 HB-2433 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2436 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2437 THIRD READING PAGE 254 HB-2444 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2445 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2453 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2458 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2465 SECOND READING PAGE 322 HB-2465 THIRD READING PAGE 323 HB-2507 SECOND READING PAGE 255 HB-2507 THIRD READING PAGE 255 HB-2511 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2512 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2514 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2516 SECOND READING PAGE 328 HB-2516 THIRD READING PAGE 328 HB-2526 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-2526 THIRD READING PAGE 8 HB-2526 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 8 HB-2540 SECOND READING PAGE 30 HB-2540 THIRD READING PAGE 274 HB-2560 SECOND READING PAGE 31 HB-2560 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2580 RECALLED PAGE 137 HB-2580 THIRD READING PAGE 138 HB-2583 THIRD READING PAGE 143 HB-2584 SECOND READING PAGE 145 HB-2584 THIRD READING PAGE 145 HB-2585 SECOND READING PAGE 150 HB-2585 THIRD READING PAGE 151 HB-2591 SECOND READING PAGE 32 HB-2591 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2594 RECALLED PAGE 74 HB-2594 THIRD READING PAGE 74 HB-2594 THIRD READING PAGE 75 HB-2606 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2607 SECOND READING PAGE 266 HB-2607 THIRD READING PAGE 266 HB-2609 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2624 THIRD READING PAGE 315 HB-2636 SECOND READING PAGE 32 HB-2636 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2645 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2655 RECALLED PAGE 43 HB-2655 THIRD READING PAGE 43 HB-2655 THIRD READING PAGE 214 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 22, 1987 PAGE 7 HB-2656 SECOND READING PAGE 257 HB-2656 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 258 HB-2674 SECOND READING PAGE 33 HB-2674 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2682 THIRD READING PAGE 76 HB-2698 THIRD READING PAGE 258 HB-2710 SECOND READING PAGE 4 HB-2710 SECOND READING PAGE 168 HB-2710 THIRD READING PAGE 169 H8-2710 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 4 HB-2711 SECOND READING PAGE 170 H8-2711 THIRD READING PAGE 170 HB-2712 SECOND READING PAGE 170 H8-2712 THIRD READING PAGE 171 HB-2713 THIRD READING PAGE 171 HB-2714 SECOND READING PAGE 172 HB-2714 THIRD READING PAGE 172 HB-2715 THIRD READING PAGE 172 HB-2721 SECOND READING PAGE 156 HB-2721 THIRD READING PAGE 157 HB-2728 THIRD READING PAGE 196 HB-2734 THIRD READING PAGE 318 HB-2745 THIRD READING PAGE 206 HB-2746 SECOND READING PAGE 33 HB-2746 THIRD READING PAGE 214 HB-2746 THIRD READING PAGE 263 HB-2746 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 264 H3-2768 SECOND READING PAGE 96 HB-2768 THIRD READING PAGE 97 HB-2790 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2791 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2803 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2804 SECOND READING PAGE 141 HB-2804 THIRD READING PAGE 164 HB-2804 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 164 HB-2805 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2821 RECALLED PAGE 44 HB-2821 THIRD READING PAGE 44 HB-2821 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2825 SECOND READING PAGE 36 HB-2825 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2836 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2846 THIRD READING PAGE 203 HB-2850 SECOND READING PAGE 37 KB-2850 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2851 THIRD READING PAGE 215 HB-2853 SECOND READING PAGE 238 HB-2853 THIRD READING PAGE 240 HB-2862 SECOND READING PAGE 243 SB-0041 FIRST READING PAGE 1 SB-0219 RECALLED PAGE 166 SB-0219 THIRD READING PAGE 166 $8-0219 THIRD READING PAGE 167 SB-0243 THIRD READING PAGE 167 SB-0278 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0384 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0387 FIRST READING PAGE 331 SB-0441 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0460 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0467 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0488 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0493 FIRST READING PAGE 337 SB-0548 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0596 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0641 FIRST READING PAGE 2 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 22, 1987 PAGE 8 SB-0713 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0714 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0716 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0717 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0720 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0736 FIRST READING PAGE 332 S3-0760 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0762 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0767 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0776 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0780 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0790 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0794 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0798 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0814 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0820 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0822 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0831 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0833 FIRST READING PAGE 333 S3-0834 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0841 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0848 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0854 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0855 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0856 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0861 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0865 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0873 FIRST READING PAGE 333 $8-0875 FIRST READING PAGE 333 SB-0883 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0884 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0886 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0896 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0897 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0898 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0903 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0905 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0907 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0908 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0909 FIRST READING PAGE 334 $8-0910 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0914 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0917 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0923 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-0924 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0926 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0931 FIRST READING PAGE 334 SB-0935 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0937 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0938 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0939 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0947 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0952 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0956 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-0957 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0962 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0968 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0972 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0977 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0982 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0986 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0988 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0990 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-0995 FIRST READING PAGE 335 SB-1001 FIRST READING PAGE 335 12/09/87 10:46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 22, 1987 PAGE 9 SB-1013 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1043 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1047 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1050 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1076 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1089 FIRST READING PAGE 336 Sa-1096 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-1101 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1103 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1115 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1123 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1125 FIRST READING PAGE 336 SB-1129 FIRST READING PAGE 337 SB-1137 FIRST READING PAGE 337 SB-1154 FIRST READING PAGE 337 SB-1155 FIRST READING PAGE 337 SB-1159 FIRST READING PAGE 337 SB-1222 FIRST READING PAGE 332 SB-1223 FIRST READING PAGE 2 SB-1439 FIRST READING PAGE 2 S8-1484 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HR-0085 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 330 HR-0242 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 79 HR-0312 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 244 HR-0360 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 83 HR-0440 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 3 SUBJECT HATTER HOUSE TO ORDER-REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PRAYER-REVEREND WENNEBORG PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE PAGE 1 PAGE 3 DEATH RESOLUTION PAGE 5 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 8 GENERAL RESOLUTION PAGE 8 DEATH RESOLUTION PAGE B MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 215 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 331 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 331 PERFUNCTORY SESSION-ADJOURNHENT PAGE 337