Illinois House Floor Debate — May 28, 1987

"The hour of 12:00 having arrived, the House will be in Session. Members will be at their seats. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend H.C. Johnson, Pastor of Calvary Temple of Springfield. Reverend Johnson is a guest of Representative Penny Pullen. And the guests in the gallery may wish to rise and join us for the invocation. Reverend Johnson."

"(Inaudible)... added to the prayer and look to God at this time. Our Heavenly Father, we come before You again today and we realize that so many times there are weighty issues, weighty decisions that must be made in these halls. And I pray that in all decisions that You will help us to rise above partisanship and, Lord, to real statesmanship, that we would do those things that we know are for the good of the constituents of this state. We're aware today that there are problems, that there are unemployed, various problems and troubles, and I pray that out of these halls will go decisions that will be helpful to the entire State of Illinois. So, we ask Your blessing, Your wisdom. Lord, we ask for the mind of God, for the direction of God upon these elected Representatives so that good can come out of these halls and that the entire state can be bless because of the decisions that are made here. We ask this in Your Name and for Your glory. Amen."

"The Lady from Kane, Ms. Doederlein, to lead us in the pledge to the flag."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Matijevich, are there any excused absences on the Democratic side?" 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"None, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Piel, are there excused absences on the Republican side?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, will the record show that Representative Loleta Didrickson, Representative Richard Klemm, Representative Myron Olson and Representative Fred Tuerk are excused today? I just got off the phone a little bit ago with Representative Tuerk who is now at home. He's walking about a half an hour a day and he wishes to thank everybody in the chamber for all their cards, letters, flowers, and most of all, their prayers. Thank you."

"Thank you very much. Let the record so reflect. Mr. Clerk, take the record. 114 Members having answered to the Call of the Quorum, a quorum is present. Mr. Ropp, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to make an announcement, please. To announce that I have application forms for the Legislator Tennis Outing, June 2, beginning at 8:00 in the evening. We'd like all people who are interested in playing tennis to sign in please. Thank you."

"Agreed Resolutions."

"Senate Joint Resolution 53, offered by Representative Hasara. House Joint Resolution 86, offered by Representative Hensel. House Resolution 449, offered by Representative Curran; and 450, offered by Representative Curran."

"The Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolutions."

"House Resolution 448, offered by Representative Daley, in respect to the memory of Theresa Moriarty."

"Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 the Resolution. Those in favor 'aye", opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the "ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Keane, seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to move to suspend the posting requirements for a number of Bills so that they could be assigned to Revenue today and be reassigned, then, to Subcommittee. I've talked to the Minority Spokesman on Revenue and she agrees. The Bills are... I'd ask move for leave to suspend the posting requirements on Senate Bills 41, 389, 488, 542, 956, 1052, 1223 and 1300, so that they can be heard in Revenue today. And I have received approval from... And, Mr. Speaker, the Minority Spokesman said that was fine with her."

"The Gentleman asks leave to suspend the posting requirements of those Bills. Leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted and those Bills are suspended so they may be heard in the Revenue Committee this week. Mr. Giglio. Mr. Giglio, for the purpose of an announcement. Ladies and Gentlemen, may I have your attention? Mr. Giglio."

"Mr. Speaker. the Democrats would like to caucus immediately in Room 114 and be back on the House floor by about 1:00."

"Alright, there has been a request for a Democratic Caucus beginning right now. We will return to the floor at 1:00. Mr. Daniels. Mr. McCracken."

"For purposes of announcing, the Republican Conference immediately to return at 1:00 in Room 118."

"In Room 118, there will be a Republican Conference immediately. We will all return to the floor at 1:00, and the House will stand in recess until the hour of 1:00, allowing the Clerk time for Perfunctory Session." 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

May 28, 1987 "Introduction and First Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill #2, Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to create Baccalaureate Savings Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 17, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Baccalaureate Education System Trust. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 21, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act requiring the training, testing, certification of child protective investigators. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 22, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to child abuse prevention. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 28, McCracken, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. First Reading of the Bill."

"Senate Bill 34, offered by Representative Phelps, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 39, offered by Representative Panayotovich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Law Enforcement Officers, Civil Defense Workers, Civil Air Patrol Members, Paramedics and Firemen Compensation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 43, offered by Representative Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Development Finance Authority Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 63, offered by Representative Barnes and O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 71, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 73, offered by Representative Countryman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Probate Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 80, offered by Representative Steczo, a Bill for an Act to require reimbursement to an arresting authority for providing medical and hospital services to the arrestee. First Reading of the Bill. 4  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 Senate Bill 81, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 85, offered by Representative Pullen, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 100, offered by Representative White, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 102, offered by Representative Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the Senior Citizens and Disabled Persons Property Tax Relief Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 117, offered by Representative McPike, a Sill for an Act in relationship to waste water treatment. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 130, offered by Representative McNamara, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 145, offered by Representative Matijevich, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Employees Group Insurance Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 173, offered by Representatives Breslin and Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 175, offered by Representative Slater, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 184, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 185, offered by Representative Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 187, offered by Representative Mulcahey and McPike, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 200, offered by Representatives Mulcahey - Hannig and Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day First Reading May 28, 1987 of the Bill. Senate Bill 203, offered by Representative Keane Virginia Frederick McGann Ryder and Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 205, offered by Representative Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to public financing of gubernatorial campaigns. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 213, offered by Representative Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 220, offered by Representative Countryman, a Bill for an Act in relationship to domestic relations. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 225, offered by Representative Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 232, offered by Representative Hensel, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 233, offered by Representative Hensel, a Bill for an Act in relationship to township officers. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 240, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 241, offered by Representative Sutker, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 242, offered by Representative Stern, a Bill for an Act in relationship to employment and camp counselors. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 249, offered by Representative Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 252, offered by Representative Kubik and Countryman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Interference Prohibition Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 255, offered by Representative Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Illinois Act on Aging. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 258, offered by Representative Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 265, offered by Representatives Cullerton and Flinn, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 275, offered by Representatives Daniels - Pullen and Williamson, a Bill for an Act to create the Regional Airport Planning Authority. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 282, offered by Representatives Michael Madigan and Currie, a Bill for an Act to amend the Secretary of State Merit Employment Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 294, offered by Representative Hasara, a Bill for an Act in relationship to tax on tangible personal property sold by senior citizens' organization. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 299, offered by Representative Flowers and Morrow, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 302, offered by Representative Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 314, offered by Representative Currie, a Bill for an Act to amend the Legislative Commission Reorganization Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 359, offered by Representative Leverenz, a Bill for an Act in relationship to local and district libraries and state revenue sharing. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 365, offered by Representative Leverenz, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill... Senate Bill 368, offered by Representatives Davis and LeFlore, a Bill for an Act to address problems of the homeless, mentally ill and disabled. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 375, offered by Representative Mays, a 7  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 388, offered by Representative Brunsvold, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 390, offered by Representative Klemm, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 422, offered by Representatives Hicks and McPike, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the protection, preservation and management of groundwater of the State of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 427, offered by Representative Ropp, a Bill for an Act in relationship to state funds disbursed for county purposes. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 430, offered by Representative Terzich, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act conferring police powers upon the sanitary district of Chicago. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 440, offered by Representative Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Comptroller Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 442, offered by Representative Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 484, offered by Representative McPike, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 487, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend the Emergency Assistance Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 496, offered by Representative McPike and Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relationship to mass transit. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 550, offered by Representatives Cullerton - White - Currie - Braun and Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to schools. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 579, offered by Representative Curran, a Bill for an Act to 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 amend the Educational Labor Relations Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 602, offered Representative Ryder and Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to payments by the Illinois Department of Public Aid. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 609, offered by Representatives Daley and Berrios, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 652, offered by Representatives Giorgi and Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 668, offered by Representative Greiman, a Bill for an Act in regard to liens on dyes, molds, forms and patterns. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 687, offered by Representative Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regency University Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 688, offered by Representative McPike, a Bill for an Act to amend the Workers' Compensation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 742, offered by Representative Stephens, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relationship to certain actions for public aid fraud. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 787, offered by Representative Sieben, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 796, offered by Representatives Panayotovich and Farley, a Bill for an Act to amend the Employer Ownership Assistance Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 801, offered by Representatives Sutker and Stern, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to the designation of an emergency telephone number for use throughout the state. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 804, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act concerning... House Bill 804, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning pertussis vaccine. First Reading of the Bill. 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Senate Bill 826, May 28, 1987 offered by Representative Stern, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois School Student Records Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 912, offered by Representative Regan, a Bill for an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 925, offered by Representative Piel, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to banking. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 929, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 943, offered by Representative McPike, a Bill for an Act to amend the Private Detective and Private Security Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 953, offered by Representative Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Toxic Substances Disclosure to Employees' Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 985, offered by Wolf, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to regulation of electronic fund transfers. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1000, offered by Representative Stern, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create the Bureau of the Budget. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1005, offered by Representative Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Court Reporters Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1009, offered by Representatives Braun - Jones and Ryder, a Bill for an Act to authorize the delegation of health task to physical assistance... physician assistance under the supervision of a license physician. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1018, offered by Representative Stern, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1041, offered by Representative Barnes, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to the establishment and maintenance of county and multiple county public health 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 departments. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1056, offered by Representative Phelps, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1074, offered by Representative Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the Sanitary District Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1084, offered by Representative Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1091, offered by Representatives Turner and Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Charitable Games Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1108, offered by Representatives McNamara and O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1109, offered by Representatives McNamara and O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1112, offered by Representative McPike, a Bill for an Act in relationship to finance and development. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1113, offered by Representatives Countryman and Breslin, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the disposition of unclaimed property to make uniform the law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1121, offered by Representatives Davis and Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to the collection of child support. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1131, offered by Representative Countryman, a Bill for an Act relating to certain criminal offenses and fines and cost relating to criminal offenses. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1136, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to encourage peer review by health care providers. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1146, offered by Representative DeLeo, a Bill for an Act in relationship to pharmacies. First 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Reading of the Bill. Senate bill 1157, offered by Representative Hasara, a Bill for an Act to amend the Springfield Metropolitan Exposition and Auditorium Authority Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1158, offered by Representatives O'Connell and Barnes, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to criminal identification and investigation. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1164, offered by Representative Hoffman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1169, offered by Representative Ronan McAuliffe Goforth and Panayotovich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Fish Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Eill 1170, offered by Representative Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Pill. Senate Bill 1171, offered by Representatives Ronan Ryder and Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1179, offered by Representative McAuliffe, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to state finance. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1181, offered by Representatives Cullerton and Leverenz, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1190, offered by Representatives O'Connell and Kubik, a Bil1 for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1194, offered by Representative Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to authorize school boards and welfare centers to sponsor community school lunch programs. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1197, offered by Representative Davis, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1203, offered by Representative Kubik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. First 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 26, 1987 Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1204, offered by Representative Sutker, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to regulate the granting of academic degrees. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1210, offered by Representative Flowers, a Bill for an Act to repeal an Act to establish community services for persons who are mentally ill. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1217, offered by Representatives Braun - Shaw and Rice, a Eill for an Act concerning the regulation of nursing. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1220, offered by Representative Mays, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the investment of public funds. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1227, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Tax Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1230, offered by Representative Virginia Frederick, a Bill for an Act to amend various Acts and Acts affecting the Department of Revenue. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1239, offered by Representative Regan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Child Care Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1235, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Confidentiality Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1236, offered by Representative McNamara, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Hazardous Materials Transportation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1238, offered by Representatives Mays and Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Hazardous Materials Transportation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1241. offered by Representative Hicks, a Bil1 for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to election judges. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1243, offered by Representative McPike, a Bill for an Act to 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 amend the Illinois Hunicipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1244, offered by Representatives McPike and Novak, a Bill for an Act to create the Environmental Cleanup Responsibility Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1245, offered by Representative Flowers and Morrow, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1251, offered by Representative Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1257, offered by Representative Greiman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1267, offered by Representative Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1269, offered by Representative Madigan and McPike, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to Urban Park Rangers program for the Chicago Park District. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1270, offered by Representative Deuchler, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1275, offered by Representative Kulas Martinez and Berrios, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1277, offered by Representatives Daley Kulas Martinez Berrios, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1283, offered by Representative Matijevich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1292, offered by Representatives Ronan Van Duyne McNamara Farley and Daley, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Highway Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1297, offered Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to repeal an Act creating the Residential Mortgage 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 23, 1987 53rd Legislative Day License Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1298, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to establish the Illinois Savings and Loan and Residential Mortgage License Fund. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1303, offered by Representative Mays, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1314, a Bill for an Act to amend... offered by Representative Kulas Berrios and Martinez, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1316, offered by Representative Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1318, offered by Representative Stern, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1326, offered by Representatives O'Connell McNamara Giorgi and Sutker, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to promotion consumer protection. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1327, offered by Representative Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Legislative Commission Reorganization Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1328, a Bill for an... offered by Representative Saltsman, a Bill for an Act in relationship to handicapped, disabled and mental ill persons. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1332, offered by Representative Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the revised Uniform Reciprocal Enforcement of Support Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1335, offered by Representatives Cullerton and O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1342, offered by Representatives Krska and Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Real Estate License Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1348, offered by Representative Mays, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of Commissioner of Savings and Loans. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1353, offered by Representative Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relationship to programs and procedures of the Department of Children and Family Services. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1360, offered by Representative Homer, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1361, offered by Bugielski, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1377, offered by Representative Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1384, offered by Representative Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to authorize townships to establish plan commissions. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1393, offered by Representative Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the Department of State Police. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1400, offered by Representative Panayotovich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Steel Products Procurement Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1403, offered by Representative Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1404, offered by Representative O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1407, offered by Representatives McNamara - O'Connell - Terzich - DeLeo and Stern, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1421, offered by Representatives Phelps - Rea and Mulcahey, a Bill for an Act to provide for the regulation of bed and breakfast establishments. First Reading of the Bill. 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 53rd Legislative Day Senate Bill 1426, offered by Representative Kulas, a Bill for an Act relating to the regulation of underground storage tanks. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1428, offered by Representatives Turner Davis Jones LeFlore and Rice, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the rehabilitation of abandoned housing. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1438, offered by Representatives McPike and Homer, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the borrowing of money in school districts as a result of the enactment of tax reform. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1440, offered by Representative McPike, a Bill for an Act in relationship to borrowing money by public corporations as a result of the enactment of the Tax Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1448, offered by Representative Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to license crane and hoisting equipment operators. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1452, offered by Representative Saltsman, a Bill for an Act to improve the agricultural output through the agricultural diversification development program and to provide for financing thereof. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1459, offered by Representative McCracken, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Neighborhood Preservation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1463, offered by Representatives Giorgi Breslin Johnson Homer and Tate, a Bill for an Act in relationship to asbestos. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1464, offered by Representatives Breslin Johnson Homer and Tate, a Bill for an Act making to the Illinois Asbestos Abatement Authority. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1468, offered by Representatives Braun and Williams, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the use of apprentices and trainees on state construction projects. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1475, 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 offered by Representatives Currie and Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pesticide Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1482, offered by Representative Currie, a Bill for an Act in relationship to the protection, preservation and management of the ground water of the State of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1487, offered by Representative Myron Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relationship to criminal jurisprudence. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1488, offered by Representative Harris, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to state finance. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1489, offered by Representative Ryder, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Fund. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1496, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1497, offered by Representative Kulas, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1498, offered by Representative Kulas, a Bill for Acts to amend an Act in relationship to toxic chemical reporting. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1501, offered by Representatives Currie Johnson Kubik and Stern, a Bill for an Act to amend the Experimental Organ Transplantation Procedures Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1502, offered by Representative Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Nuclear Safety Preparedness Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1506, offered by Representative Flowers and Morrow, a Bill for an Act to provide for public hearing in relation to changes in community base services. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1503 (sic - Senate Bill 1513), offered by Representative Capparelli, a Bill for an Act to amend the 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Trusts and Trustees Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1514, offered by Representative Kirkland, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. First Reading of the Bill."

"Further introductions. Senate Bill 172, DeLeo, a Bill for an Act to amend the Citizens Utility Board Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 176, Laurino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 181, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Horse Racing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 191, Saltsman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 192, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 209, Shaw and Rice, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regulatory Agency Sunset Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 210, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regulatory Agency Sunset Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 211, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Regulatory Agency Sunset Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 230, Myron Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Legislative Commission Reorganization Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 310, Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 311, Cowlishaw, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 355, Phelps, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 408, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 438, Didrickson, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 445, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Commercial Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 451, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 454, Giglio, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to provide for the regulation of the practice of esthetics and the registration of estheticians. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 456, Parcells, a Bill for an Act in relation to the regulation dietitians. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 515, Turner, a Bill for an Act in relation to professions and occupations. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 523, Sutker, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 549, Robert Olson, a Bill for an Act in relation to the transfer of various property rights by the state. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 567, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to regulate the practice of clinical laboratory science. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 643, Hoffman, a Bill for an Act relating to the salaries of certain county board. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 681, Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend the General Not-For-Profit Corporation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 697, Panayotovich, a Bill for an Act in relation to the prompt payment of certain insurance claims. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 719, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 749, Leverenz, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 756, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 771, Shaw and Jones, a Bill for an Act in relations to the bodies of deceased persons who had aids. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 777, Parcells, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 relation to the definition, licensing and regulation of community currency exchanges. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 809, Frederick, a Bill for an Act in relation to licensing of clinical psychologists. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 868, Stephens, a Bill for an Act in relation to the withdrawal and sale of water from the Kaskaskia River. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 892, Rea, a Bill for an Act to amend the Conservation District Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 940, Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 994, Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 998, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 999, Leverenz, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Comptroller Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1080, Ropp, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1135, Dunn, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1177, Currie and Barnes, a Bill for an Act to amend Minority and Female Business Enterprise Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1180, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the rehabilitation of disabled persons. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1206, Rea, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1214, Dunn and Churchill, a Bill for an Act to amend the Business Corporation Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1231, Robert Olson, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Purchasing Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1239, Piel, a Bill for an Act to create the Self-employment Manufacturing Assistance Program Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Bill 1249, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Private Business and Vocational Schools Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1253, Dunn and Tate, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1263, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1278, Morrow, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Physical Therapy Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1287, Parcells, a Bill for an Act to create the Consumer Deposit Security Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1359, Bugielski et al, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1387, Mautino, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1391, Flinn, a Bill for an Act to amend the Township Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1415, Piel, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1417, Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1422, Countryman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1469, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1470, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1480, Mautino, a Bill for an Act in relation to the Department of State Police. First Reading of the Bill. Introduction and First Reading of Constitutional Amendments. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 019, offered by Representative Breslin. Resolved, by the House of Representatives of the 85th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a Proposition to amend Section 5 and 10 of Article IV of the Constitution to read as follows: Article IV, Section 5. Sessions. (a) The General Assembly shall convene each year on the second Wednesday of November. The General Assembly shall be a continuous Body during the term for which Members of the House of Representatives are elected. No Session or meeting of either House of the General Assembly may be held between the date of the general election and the second Wednesday of November next following unless the Governor declares that a demonstrated emergency exists which requires immediate action by the General Assembly. (b) The Governor may convene the General Assembly or the Senate alone in Special Session by a Proclamation stating the purpose of the Session; the only business encompassed by such purpose, together with any impeachments or confirmation of appointments shall be transacted. Special sessions of the General Assembly may also convene by Joint Proclamation of the presiding officers of both Houses, issued as provided by law. (c) Sessions of each House of the General Assembly and meetings of Committees, Joint Committees and legislative commissions shall be open to the public. Sessions and Committee meetings of the House may be closed to the public if two-thirds of the Members elected to that House demonstrate that the public interest so requires: and meetings of Joint Committees and legislative commissions may be closed if two-thirds of the Members elected to each House so determine. SECTION 10. Effective Date of Laws. The General Assembly shall provide by law for a uniform effective date for laws passed prior to May 1 of the calendar year. The General Assembly may 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 provide for a different effective date of any law passed prior to May 1. A Bill passed after April 30 shall not become effective prior to May 1 of the next calendar year unless the General Assembly by a vote of Three-Fifths of the Members elected to each House provides for an earlier effective date. Schedule. This Amendment takes effect upon its adoption by the electors of this State. First Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. Constitutional Amendments Second Reading. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #13. Resolved by House of Representatives of the 85TH General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the state for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a Proposition to amend Section 8 of Article IX of the Constitution to read as follows: Article IX. Revenue. Section 8. Sales Tax. (a) Real property shall not be sold for the nonpayment of taxes or special assessments without judicial proceedings. (b) 1. The right of redemption of all sales of real estate for the nonpayment of taxes or special assessments, except as provided in paragraphs 2 and 3 of this Subsection (b), shall exist in favor of owners and persons interested in such real estate for not less than two years following such sales. 2. The right of redemption from the sale for nonpayment of taxes or special assessments of a parcel of real estate which: (A) is vacant non-farm real estate or (B) contains an improvement consisting of a structure or structures each of which contains 6 or more residential units or (C) is commercial or industrial property; shall exist in favor of owners or persons interested in such real estate for not less than 6 months following such sales. 3. The right of 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 redemption from the sale of nonpayment of taxes or special assessments of a parcel real estate which: (A) is vacant non-farm real estate or (B) contains an improvement consisting of a structure or structures each of which contains 6 or more residential units or (C) is commercial or industrial property; and upon which all or a part of the general taxes for each of 2 or more years are delinquent shall exist in favor of owners or persons interested in such real estate for not less than 90 days following such sales. (C) Owners, occupants and parties interested shall be given reasonable notice of the sale and the date of execution of the period of redemption as the General Assembly provides by law. Schedule. This Constitutional Amendment takes effect upon adoption by the electors of this state. Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. Amendment #1 adopted in Revenue Committee, amends House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 13 on page 1 by deleting lines 17 through 34 and inserting lieu thereof the following: except as provided in paragraph 2 of this Subsection (b) shall possess in favor or owners and persons interested in such real estate for not less than two years following such sales. 2. The right of redemption from the sale of the nonpayment of taxes or special assessment of parcel real state which: (a) is vacant non-farm real estate or (b) contains an improvement consisting of a structure or structures each of which contains six or more residential units or (c) is commercial or industrial property and upon which all or part of the general taxes for one year or more are delinquent shall exist in favor of owners and persons interested in such real estate for not less than six months following such sales. And on page 2, by deleting line 1 through 6, Second Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 This Constitutional Amendment shall be held on Second Reading. Further introduction of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 40, Matijevich, a Bill for an Act in relation to the immunity of alcoholism and drug addiction intervenors and reporters. First Reading of the Bill."

"The House will be in Session. On page 2... On the Order of House Bills Second Reading - Appropriations, on page 2 of the Calendar, appears House Bill 482. Out of the record. On that Order appears House Bill 483. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill..."

"Oh, I'm sorry. Would you wish to proceed, Mr. Matijevich, on 482?"

"I do, if the staff people are around."

"Alright, Mr. Clerk, on House Bill 482. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 482, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the State Board of Education. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 and 11 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions with respect to those Amendments?"

"A Motion to table Committee Amendment #4, offered by Representative Madigan."

"Mr. Matijevich moves to table Amendment #4 to House Bill 482. And on that, is there any discussion? There being... A Motion to table Amendment #4 to House Bill 482. The Gentleman from Cook, Speaker Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, would the Clerk read the Motion? Would the Clerk read the Motion?"

"Yes. Mr. Clerk?"

"I move to table Amendment #4 to House Bill 482"."

"Mr. Speaker, this Motion has been filed to table 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Amendment #4. The Amendment was adopted in Committee. The Amendment would constitute an add-on to the appropriation to the State Board of Education for the purpose of a Summer School for the Arts in the amount of 1.5 million dollars. I wish to commend all of the Members of the Appropriations Committee both Democrat and Republican for the outstanding work that they have done while we have considered House appropriation Bills. To date, those Committees in conjunction with the full Membership have sent a budget to the Senate that would not call for a general tax increase for Illinois. At this point, this particular Amendment, in effect, would require some kind of a tax increase, and because of that and in an effort to be consistent with the work that has been done by the Appropriation Committees to date along with the full Membership, I wish to withdraw the Amendment, but would require a Motion to table, and I move the Motion."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Madigan, moves to table Amendment #4 to House Bill 482. And on that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"Indicates he will yield for questions."

"Yes... Speaker, by tabling Amendment 4, the first Amendment that we would address outside of that would be Amendment 12 which would also eliminate the 1.5 million dollars appropriated for the operations of the summer school program. However, that Amendment would be out of order as a result of your Amendment, and I wondered whether you would agree to also tabling the Amendment that also added 100,000 dollars to the State Board of Education for Illinois' participation in the bicentennial competition on the Constitution of Bill of Rights. Is that also, Mr. 27  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 Speaker, is an add on?"

"Yes."

"You would be..."

"The answer to your question is yes. I plan to move to table that Amendment also."

"Then, we would agree to the tabling Motion."

"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is tabled. Are there further Motions with respect to any Amendments?"

""I move to table Amendment #5 to House Bill 482", offered by Speaker Madigan."

"Gentleman from Cook, Speaker Madigan, on a Motion to table Amendment #5."

"Mr. Speaker, for the reasons previously enunciated, I move to table the Amendment."

"Gentleman moves to table Amendment #5. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be tabled?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is tabled. Further Motions?"

"No further Motions."

"Are there further... Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #12, offered by Representative Tate."

"Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, on Amendment 12."

"Withdraw the Amendment."

"Amendment 12 withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative Tate."

"Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, on Amendment 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 13."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #13 eliminates 500,000 dollar add on from the General Revenue Fund appropriated to the State Board of Education for grants to school districts which provide parenting education classes to students grades 6 through 13... or 6 through 12."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, moves for the adoption of Amendment 13 to House Bill 482. And on that, the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I can understand what we're trying to do because there may not be a tax increase, but this particular appropriation I think is important for the school districts in conducting parenting education courses. And I, as Sponsor of the Bill, oppose the Gentleman's Motion to delete this from the Bill."

"Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, this House, in the past few weeks, has debated the issue of sex education and contraceptives in the school. I would suggest to you that parenting education classes, a lot of us have concerns over what is actually taught in the classrooms in reference to parenting. And for the previous reasons already mentioned, this is an additional add on. This is also a very controversial subject matter. So, I would ask all of the Members to look at this Amendment very, very carefully because this has some very strong implications to all of you back home in you districts. And I move to... for adoption of this Amendment and would ask for a Roll Call, Speaker."

"Question is, 'Shall Amendment be adopted?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Voting is now open. Mr. Bowman, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you. I'm voting 'no' on this Bill... this Amendment primarily because we already passed the substantive legislation over to the Senate, and this will be something that we will have to fund sooner or later. So, I believe a 'no' vote at this time is appropriate."

"Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Hoffman, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. In response to the previous speaker, we can't fund a program if we don't put the money in the appropriation Bill. What we're suggesting to you today is that we do not have the resources to fund the programs that we presently have in place at the level that we funded them at last year. And for that reason, although I don't argue necessarily with the program. I argue with the fact that we do not have the resources to pay for it, and we send a bad message if we appropriate money for money that we don't have for programs. And I rise in support of this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Preston, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to this Amendment. The people in this chamber should be very aware that what this Amendment will do in addition to other things is wipe out all appropriation of funds for parenting education. That means that if we after having passed legislation that would have that parenting and family relationships taught in school, if we wipe out appropriations to permit that, the end result will be that you have children who are having children. So, we don't want that. I would ask you to 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 please reconsider what this Amendment does and see as many red votes up there as we possibly can. This is a very harmful Amendment."

"Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Mays, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I simply rise in support of the Amendment for many of the reasons previously enunciated, but also to highlight this is parenting education. And back when I was in high school not too long ago or junior high, we had home ec. We had some other things involved. We don't need this money, and if we're going to have to do it sooner or later, let's do it a lot later. Let's not do it now."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk. Mr. Preston, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, if this gets enough votes to pass, which, apparently, it is, I'd like a verification of the green votes."

"Fine. You're within your rights."

"Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 53 voting 'aye', 41 voting 'no'. Yes, Mr. Mulcahey. Mr. Mulcahey votes 'aye'. So that, on this question there are 54 'aye', 40 'no', 8 'present'. And the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Preston, requests a verification of the Affirmative Roll. Mr. Clerk. Mr... Mr. Tate requests a poll of those not voting."

"Poll of those not voting. Daley. DeLeo. Farley. Giglio. Homer. Keane. Kulas. Laurino. Martinez. Panayotovich. Ronan and Saltsman."

"Mr. Clerk... Yes, Mr. Martinez. Mr. Martinez votes 'no'. Mr. Clerk, proceed with a verification of the Affirmative Roll Call." 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Ackerman. Barger. Barnes. Black. Christensen. Churchill. Countryman. Cowlishaw. Daniels. Deuchler. Doederlein."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Homer, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Homer votes 'no'. Proceed, Sir."

"Ewing. Flinn. Frederick. Goforth. Granberg. Hallock. Harris."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Rice, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"I'd like to change my vote to 'no', Sir."

"Mr. Rice votes 'no'. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"Hartke."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Ms. Jones, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to change..."

"Ms. Jones votes 'no'."

"...No."

"Mr. Keane votes 'no*."

"Continuing the Poll of the Affirmatives. Hasara."

"Excuse me. Mr. Farley. Mr. Farley votes 'no'."

"Continuing the Poll of the Affirmative. Hensel. Hoffman. Hultgren. Johnson. Kirkland. Kubik. Mays. McAuliffe. McCracken. McNamara. Mulcahey. Novak. O'Connell. Robert Olson. Parcells. Parke. B. Pedersen. W. Peterson. Petka."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Tate, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Just to make the Membership aware that in the event that the Representative is successful, we'll verify the Negative." 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Yes, we understand, then. May 28, 1987 You'll ask for a verification. Alright. Mr. Clerk, proceed."

"Piel. Pullen. Regan. Ropp. Ryder. Sieben. Slater. Stange. Wennlund. Stephens. Williamson and Wojcik." Tate.

Wait. Weaver. Speaker Greiman: "Mr. Questions... Mr. Preston, questions of the Affirmative Roll? Mr. Hartke. Mr. Hartke goes from 'aye' to 'no'. Mr. Preston, questions of the Affirmative Roll Call."

"Representative Countryman."

"Mr. Countryman. How is the Gentlemen recorded?"

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. Countryman."

"Representative Ewing."

"Mr. Ewing. Mr. Countryman is at... Mr. Countryman is in the middle aisle. Restore Mr. Countryman to the Roll Call. Mr. Ewing is in his chair."

"Representative Harris."

"Mr. Harris. Mr. Harris is at Ms. Parcell's desk."

"Representative McAuliffe."

"Mr. McAuliffe. Mr. McAuliffe. The Gentlemen is in the chamber? Not in the chamber. How is Mr. McAuliffe recorded?"

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. McAuliffe from the Roll Call."

"Representative McNamara."

"Mr. McNamara is in his seat."

"Representative Robert Olson."

"Mr. Olson is in his seat."

"Representative Ropp."

"Mr. Ropp is in the middle aisle." 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Representative Ryder."

"Mr. Ryder is at his desk."

"Representative Slater." May 28, 1987

"Mr. Slater is at his... in his seat."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Mr. Wennlund is in his seat."

"I have no further questions, Mr. Speaker."

"On this question, there are 52 'aye', 47 'no'. Yes? Mr. Saltsman votes 'no'. Mr. Panayotovich votes 'no'. Mr. Leverenz votes 'no'. Mr. Hannig votes 'aye'. On this question there are 53 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present'. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative

Speaker Tate."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, on Amendment #14."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #14 eliminates 200,000 dollars out of General Revenue Fund appropriated to the State Board of Education for grants of school districts which provides parent/teacher family life sex education training. This is also a brand new program as indicated in the last speech, just a brand new program. and therefore, it's an add on and we opposed it. And I'd like to eliminate that. And I move for its adoption."

"Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, moves for the adoption of Amendment #14 to House Bill 482. And on that, the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"We'll accept that Amendment. That was a Republican add on any way, so we'll accept that."

"Mr. Ropp, did you wish to speak on this matter?" 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"I just wanted to raise a question to the... question of the Sponsor, please."

"Proceed, Mr. Ropp."

"Could you reexplain that just again very briefly, Representative Tate."

"This amendment eliminates 200,000 dollars out of GRF to the State Board of Education for grants to 18 different educational service centers to provide parents/teacher family life sex education training."

"Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #15, offered by Representative Hoffman."

"Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Hoffman, on Amendment 15. Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move for the adoption of Amendment #15 which reduces the line item for truant and dropout ultimate education programs by 4,322,600 dollars. And we've been concerned about the liability of some of these programs and the way in which the programs have functioned. And for that reason, I move the adoption of Floor Amendment #15."

"Gentleman from DuPage moves for the adoption of Amendment 15. On that, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Chairman... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, and I would apprise the Membership on this Amendment, the argument that has been posed on the prior Amendments, does not a hold on this one. This Amendment goes below the appropriated 1987 level. The Bill as 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 amended provides for 10,000,000 dollars and Representative Hoffman's Amendment reduces that to five million six, and I will say that the truant alternative programs, I think, are cost defective. Now, I come from a county where we have a Republican Regional Superintendent of Schools, that Superintendent, who takes office in August, has contacted me personally on this issue and said that we need those funds to keep a viable program and to make sure that we teach kids. After all, what is our goal? What are we trying to do? We're trying to make sure, one, that students do stay in school. Two, that if they don't, then we try to have some viable alternative program so that kids are learning SO that they become productive citizens. would urge the Membership, this isn't a matter of tax or no tax. This is an Amendment that would cut well below the appropriated 1987 level. So, I would urge the Members on this side... on both sides of the aisle to defeat this Amendment. It is a not responsible Amendment."

"The question is... Yes. the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Martinez."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of House. I, too, rise in opposition to this Amendment. This Amendment reduces the fiscal year '88 appropriation for Chicago Transitional Bilingual Education. Out of the record, Mr. Speaker."

"Question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?" All in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos' have it. The Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #16, offered by Representative Tate."

"Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, on Amendment 16." 36  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 23, 1987

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #16 eliminates all funding for bilingual education, both in Chicago and downstate. This Amendment would save 18,000,000 dollars. Currently, out of that 18,000,000, almost 14,000,000 dollars is spent in the City of Chicago on bilingual and downstate receives 4,000,000. I would ask all the Members in this House to carefully examine Amendment #16, because I would... I would suggest most of downstate Members that our bilingual programs are not existent and that if you would look at Amendment #16, if this Amendment goes on, what we plan to do is increase funding in general state aid which would go to money for all school districts in this state, not for a special program. It's a good Amendment. It gives local school districts the discretion to continue funding the programs if they desire to fund those programs, but more importantly, it reaches out to every student in the State of Illinois. It gives money to every student in this state on an equal basis rather than setting up a certain program for just bilingual students in the state. And I ask for a Roll Call on this Amendment, Mr. Speaker."

"The Gentleman from Macon moves for the adoption of Amendment 16. And on that, the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Speaker, I think Representative Martinez wants to speak to this issue, but as Sponsor of the Bill, I would rise in opposition to it also. This... really what it does is eliminate the bilingual program. And I think that the Bilingual Transitional Education program has been one that has worked... I think it has been more of the problem of emotion, more of the problem of discrimination and I will hope that Members in this Body would try to eliminate discrimination and understand when people want to help 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 themselves. Everybody doesn't have it easy in obtaining an education in America. I come from a minority and I think I can relate to the problems that minorities have. So, I would urge the Membership to... this isn't... again, isn't a matter of tax or no tax. This Amendment would reduce, not reduce, but totally eliminate a program. Mr. Speaker, I would ask that Representative Martinez who is directly involved in this program be heard on this issue."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Martinez."

"(Speaking Spanish). For the benefit of those who don't understand Spanish, I just said that I was in opposition to Amendment #16. For that same reason, I spoke in Spanish that you probably didn't understand me, and for that reason, I stand in opposition to this Amendment. This Amendment reduces the fiscal year '38 appropriation for Chicago Transitional Bilingual Education programs from 13,000,000 dollars to one dollar. This Amendment also reduces the fiscal '88 appropriation for downstate Transitional Bilingual Education programs from 5,000,000 to one dollar. I come from the highly Hispanic population... populated area and this program is sorely needed. For that reason, I stand unalterably opposed to this Amendment. Thank you."

"Lady from Lake, Ms. Stern."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. There is a portion of my district which has a great many Spanish-speaking youngsters in it which curiously enough is represented by the Northwoods Junior High School which happens to be in the gallery from Highland Park in Highwood. But if the bilingual education program was cut out, some of those youngsters would find themselves at a real loss. Thank you very much."

"Very adroitly done, Ma am. The Lady from... 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We're discussing bilingual education and many people feel that that is a Chicago program. I would just like to point out to my downstate colleagues that this particular Amendment would completely eliminate all monies going to downstate school districts for this program, so downstate school districts in particular would lose 4.6 million dollars. This is 4.6 million that is already in the Bill. It is 4.6 million that is being spent at this very moment, so that this Amendment would wipe out whatever you have in your own districts, wherever you are in the State of Illinois in this particular program area. So, I stand in opposition."

"The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of Amendment #16. What this does is save 13,623,300 dollars in GRF. It would not be our intent to cripple any programs, but I guess you got to get right down to philosophy and if you want to help local control, put this back into general state aid formula so that the locals can make a decision as to what the priorities ought to be. I think that's the thrust or the Amendment doesn't specifically earmark the saving. I'm sure that's where it would end up if we are to realize it."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Levin."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, too, rise in opposition of this Amendment. This Amendment not only affects the Hispanic community, but it also affects the Asian community. And, I, for one, have a substantial southeast Asian constituency, new people who have just come here, South Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laotian, Chinese that were very adversely affected by this. So, 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 this has a lot broader base of an adverse affect in simply one community. It affects a lot of different sets of new constituents in the State of Illinois."

"Gentlemen from Kane, Mr. Kirkland."

"Simply to add my opposition to the Amendment. This would obviously cripple the whole bilingual program, wipe it out. It would cost district U 46, the third largest district in the state, approximately 1.36 million dollars. It's been a good program in U 46. It served a number of different groups and I just think it would be a tragedy to wipe the program out, and I rise in opposition."

"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would, again, want to remind the Membership that this is an 18,000,000 dollar program that we would like to transfer from bilingual to general state aid. General state aid helps each and every student in the State of Illinois. It treats each and every student equally in this state. Local school districts would have the discretion to continue this program. But let me suggest to you, Ladies and Gentlemen of this House, that there is no bilingual program in Springfield, Illinois. We don't get one penny in Springfield. We don't get one penny in Decatur. We don't get one penny in Union County. We don't get one penny in Macoupin County. We don't get five cents in Will County. In the vast majority of counties downstate Illinois, there's not one cent spent on bilingual education. Yet, what we're doing with this Amendment is giving each and every student an equal opportunity. If you have a substantial bilingual population of students in your district, it should be up... left to the discretion of those school boards to implement a program for bilingual education. Speaker, I'd ask for a Roll Call on this. It's 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day a good state.

Amendment. May 28, 1987 It treats every student equally in the "Question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?" All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 47 'aye', 60 'no', 4 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #17, offered by Representative Tate."

"Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, on Amendment 17."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #17 funds the bilingual education program for both Chicago and downstate. Apparently, this Membership didn't feel that eliminating the program totally was fair. SO what we're doing is we're going to... this Amendment would fund the program at about 67 percent of the level that we funded it in 1987. Again, what we do with any additional dollars left over, we will have an Amendment offered to the general state aid... to add to general state aid and I would move for its adoption."

"Gentleman from Macon moves for the adoption of Amendment #17 and on that, the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is the same battle or same issue on the last Amendment. Here again, the Sponsor of the Amendment would reduce the appropriation of the bilingual program well below the 1987 levels. So, this isn't a matter of a tax increase or no tax increase. This is a matter of supporting a present program. I can't help but listen to this debate where I 41  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 have heard the issue of local control. Give the districts local control and yet, I can't believe I am on the same floor of the same House where last Friday, I think it was, some of the same people were debating don't give local control to these school health based clinics. So, let's not be fooled by that issue of local control. This is a very, I think, prejudiced Amendment, a discriminatory Amendment. So, I would urge the Members of the House to defeat the Amendment, as you did the last Amendment."

"Question is, 'Shall this Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos have it. The Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #18, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Gentleman from Saline, Mr. Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Knowing the realities of the budget constraints, and trying to cooperate and working towards a no tax budget, I withdraw Amendment #18, as badly as we need it down home."

"Gentleman from Saline moves for the Adoption of Amendment #18 to House Bill 482. Is there any discussion?"

"Withdrew, Speaker. Sorry."

"Oh, I'm sorry. Gentleman has withdrawn Amendment #18. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #19, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Also withdraw #19, Mr. Speaker."

"Gentleman from Saline, Mr. Phelps, withdraws Amendment #19. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #20, offered by Representative Hyvetter Younge." 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"The Amendment #20. Lady from St. Clair, Ms.

Younge. on Younge: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #20 would add two million dollars to the budget for enterprise programs as a part of the truant, delinquency and drop-out programs of the Department of Education. One of the things that is missing in the school programs all around Illinois and particularly in the areas where they have 50 and 60 percent drop-out levels is that there is no program of instruction that teach people how to engage in enterprise, how to earn one's own way, how to structure an entrepreneurial adventure that will help him to earn money and I think that this should be added to the school curriculum. In other states where it has been added, the 50 to 60 percent drop-out rate has been turned around and they have 80 percent of those young people graduating from high school. When we take into consideration that 93 percent of the people who are in our prisons are high school drop-outs, we have to find a program that would help people to go back to school and to stay in school. So, I think that it is absolutely essential to save monies here in Illinois that we have a program that teaches people how to go into business, how to make a product or provide a service. And I move for your favorable adoption of this Amendment."

"Lady from St. Clair moves for the adoption of Amendment #20, and on that, the Gentleman from Marion... from Macon, Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Apparently, everyone didn't go to the Democratic caucus today. I would... I'm sure the Sponsor is well intended, but I would, at this time, ask the Membership to oppose this. This is a two million dollar, if you will, a poor project for one specific 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Representative District and at this point, I don't think we are prepared to support any of these type of add ons."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I don't plan to support many Floor Amendments today, but I support this one because Representative Younge has been working on this for a couple of years now. The Minority Spokesman is new to our Committee and is not familiar with this issue from the past year, and it is one that Representative Younge had planned to offer in Committee this time, but the Amendment was defective and had to be drafted so her only option was to offer it on the floor. So, I believe, in the interest of fairness, we should support this Amendment."

"The Lady from DuPage, Ms. Cowlishaw."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House..."

"Excuse me. Ladies and Gentlemen, let's bring the level of discussion down. We see a lot of Senators here and they seem to be disrupting the chamber. Ms. Cowlishaw, proceed."

"Yes, it's much more orderly when there are just House Members here. Mr. Speaker, I am told by a prior speaker that one of the reasons I should support this Amendment is because the Sponsor of the Amendment has been working on it for a couple of years. Mr. Speaker, I don't find that to be a reason to vote for anything. I would submit to you, Sir, that presently we spend twelve years out of every young person's life attempting to educate that person and we are graduating students from high school who do not know how to read. Do you want to spend this two million dollars for a new program or do you want to spend that same amount of money to teach students to read?"

"Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens." 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Thank you, Mr. May 28, 1987 Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. First of all, I don't think this is included in the State Board's appropriation. I don't... I also don't think that there is any substantive language to go along with this appropriation. Representative Younge, where would this... where would this money be appropriated to?"

"Lady indicates she will yield for questions."

"It would be appropriated to the State Board of Education and the funds would be available for all of the districts all over the state. The point is we've got to teach young people the benefit of entrepreneurship, of enterprise, how to make your own way. We have..."

"Okay, thank you. Mr. Speaker, to the Amendment."

"We have crippled people by having welfare programs and I think that we have to introduce a new and different philosophy and teach people how to go into business..."

"Mr. Speaker, to the Amendment, if I may. Thank you for your answer, Ma'am."

"... and how to make their own way."

"Mr. Speaker, if I could address the Amendment."

"Yes, Mr. Stephens, proceed."

"Mr. Speaker, to the Amendment."

"Proceed, Sir."

"It's interesting that we want to spend $3,000,000 developing a program of entrepreneurship, getting into free enterprise, without the basic skills of reading and writing and arithmetic. I think it's pretty much a waste of taxpayers' dollars if we had the money. let alone having to face the budget crisis that we have this year without the money to go around, having to go back to our school districts and tell the first grade teachers there that we don't have enough money so that you can have an extra aide to help teach a slow learning student the basics of reading 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 and writing. To have to go back to our districts, Mr. Speaker, and tell the school superintendents that we don't have enough state money, that you are going to have to be forced to go back to the people again for a local tax referendum to raise property taxes even higher for a foolish program that will spend $2,000,000 of the taxpayers money just so that we can tell someone who is probably going to graduate high school without the basic skills that we're going to take you from poverty and turn you into an entrepreneur. It's absolutely ridiculous. I rise in opposition to the Lady's Amendment."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', all those opposed signify by... all those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 27 'ayes', 71 'no', 5 voting 'present' and the Amendment fails. Mr. Black, Gentleman from Vermilion, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Clarification on a previous vote. Would the Journal reflect my intention, on Amendment #16, was to vote 'aye'. I inadvertently hit the wrong button."

"The Journal will not reflect that, but the transcript will."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Mr. Clerk, are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #21, offered by Representative Satterthwaite."

"Lady from Champaign. Ms. Satterthwaite, on Amendment 21."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I realize 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 53rd Legislative Day that it may be difficult for most of the Members to be following what is happening today, particularly since the funding for elementary and secondary education comes to us in more than one appropriation Bill. However, as we looked at the Bills as they had come out of Committee, we realized that, in fact, although our intent was simply to keep a level funding budget, we would, in fact, if we passed the Bills as they come out of Committee, with less money for next year's budget than we have in the current year's budget. Amendment #21 is designed to address that shortfall in what we have provided in the budgets as they will go to the Senate. I agree with the fact that if there is no new money in our revenue, that we are going to all have to tighten our belts, but I don't believe that we ever intended that education would get less money next year than they get in the current year and so I offer Amendment #21 which makes some adjustments to some of the grant line items. You may be aware that many of the items have a formula by which the local schools are supposed to be reimbursed for things like special education tuition, special education personnel, special education orphanage, transportation of pupils and special education transportation. These items, as the Bill came out of Committee, would have been in the lower 90 percentile of what each of those districts was entitled to have. Because of the shortfall in the overall budgets for education, this Amendment puts another 15.6 million dollars into those particular line items and brings them up to a 95 percentile for funding for these categorical grants. It is not something that will break the budget. It is something that is simply putting back into the education budget sufficient dollars for them to be level funded to come out with the same total as they have in the current year and I would ask 47  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 for your support."

"The Lady from Champaign moves for the adoption of Amendment #21 and on that, is there discussion? The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think the previous speaker has pretty well articulated what her Amendment accomplishes. I don't think there is anyone in the chamber today that sits here and feels like they would not like to spend more money on education in this state. However, I would suggest to all the Membership in this chamber today that no one is clamoring to sponsor an income tax increase Bill, that no one has come out and stepped forward in this chamber to sponsor a service tax increase Bill and this Sill would raise spending $15,000,000. Now, we can play a game if you want and we can all say that we are for spending more money and we can send it to the Governor's desk and we can say, "Governor, we are only going to give you this much money, but we are going to ask you to spend twice as much money as we are going to give you." Now, that's what basically we're doing with this Amendment. What this Amendment says is we'd like to spend $15,000,000 more than we currently have in this budget. So, I guess if you are for taxes, if it's the time to stand up and say, 'Yeah, I'm ready to vote for a tax increase in this state and I'm ready to put my 'aye' vote up there.' But if you are not ready to do that, if you want to wait and see what extra money we have left in this process, then I would suggest to you the proper vote to make on this Roll Call is a 'no' vote. And that's why I oppose this Amendment at this point in time."

"For what purpose does the Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite, seek recognition?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, if I may rebut what the 48  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 previous speaker has..."

"No, you will be allowed to close. You may close, certainly."

"Alright."

"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The question with regard to this Amendment has nothing to do with a tax increase. The question is whether this General Assembly and the Governor of this state shall continue to balance the budget of this state on the backs of retired teachers whose Teacher Retirement System has been underfunded for each of the last seven or eight years during the administration of the present Governor and whether the educational funding in this state called for by our Constitution to be at a level of 51 percent of the cost shall be met or whether... am I on the wrong Amendment? Okay, I'm sorry. No, I'm not. Good speech anyway, but I think I'm... I'm on Helen's Amendment. Helen increases the budget and I'm for that. If we are going to kill this Amendment, then we are balancing the budget on the backs of the teachers and the students and the retired teachers in this state and I think we should meet our commitment and adopt this Amendment. This is a good Amendment. I'm for this Amendment."

"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, as Sponsor of the Bill, I opposed the Amendment. Representative Dunn had a good speech and he could have used the same language of his speech but really referred... to say we're trying to balance the budget on the backs of special education because much of the Amendment proposed by Representative Satterthwaite deals with special education. Now, I may look at this a little 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 differently than many in this House, but I have never left this General Assembly on June 30th where this House or the Senate has not put in more monies than we can afford', you might say. You know, this is not the end of the process. Representative Tate said, "I am not... I am not for this spending at this time, here and now. Let me tell you, you may not have another opportunity. You may not have another opportunity to tell the kids in special ed that you are for them, that you are trying to help special education. I don't think that anybody can interpret a vote on this Amendment as a vote for a tax increase because what I interpret it as is that special education and reimbursement for transportation, to me, is a high priority. I am saying, "Mr. Governor, if this... if this amount of money is in your... your total appropriation, then you've got to ferret it all out. I, as a Legislator, think it's a high priority, higher than a lot of the junk that's been presented in agency budgets. Take out some of that junk, Mr. Governor. Don't tell me that if I vote for this Amendment I'm for a tax increase. If you say that, you are all full of you know what because I have never, never let down special education and I will not do it today."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I was ready to suggest to the last speaker that I wanted to know how he really felt about this Amendment, but I resist from doing that. I think that we need to redefine what we're looking at here. We're looking at an Amendment that goes beyond the current level of funding for these programs. In fact, I even understand that one of the line items is included in a supplemental appropriation, one of the line items that we address in this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Flinn." 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

May 28, 1987 "Yes, I'm sorry, excuse me. Was that a... Mr... did you conclude your remarks, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That was the longest pause that I have ever had. I guess I did."

"Well, proceed, Mr. Hoffman, if you have more. Mr. Hoffman."

"Well, what I... I just wanted to conclude by saying we need to put this in context with where we are today and where this Amendment proposes to take us. We are not in a position today... I mean, let's be responsible about this, to add $15,000,000 to the budget. I think we ought to be consistent with the Speaker's willingness to withdraw two Amendments that he had in for add ons and I would suggest to the Sponsor of this Amendment that she withdraw this Amendment as well."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Flinn."

"Mr. Speaker, I repeat my Motion. I move the previous question."

"Gentleman from St. Clair moves the previous question be put. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Lady from Champaign, Ms. Satterthwaite, to close."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, the discussion that has followed my introductory remarks shows that no one appears to be listening to what is said on this House floor. My introductory remarks indicated that the reason for this Amendment is that it would not go above the current year's expenditures for education. It would simply bring us back to level funding with this year's appropriation for education. If we are going to pass Bills out of this chamber at a no-increase-tax level, but giving education as much money as they have in this current year, 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 we need this Amendment. Without this Amendment, the schools are going to be getting less than they currently get. Now. I think that the issue of a tax increase is totally separate from this Amendment. This Amendment simply restores to education the amount of money that would be a shortfall for them if we don't put this money in. If you vote against this Amendment, you are saying that the schools across the State of Illinois do not deserve to get as much money next year as they are getting this year. If you think that we should have at least as much as this year, you need to support this Amendment. I don't believe that we intend to penalize our schools simply because in the process we have cut out more money than we should have for these budgets and I urge a 'yes' vote on this Amendment."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Mulcahey, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. For the last twelve years I have been here, the State of Illinois, no matter what Governor it may have been, it's been derelict in responsibilities as far as funding education, and when we passed the Education Reform Act of 1985, it was agreed that our primary objective was to get up to that magic 51 percent as the Constitution dictates we are supposed to do. We have been going backwards. This year we are simply... this right now we are simply trying to keep the level of funding for elementary and secondary education at the same level as it is this year. We don't want to cut back. We don't want to add. We want to keep it where it is this year. And education, as the Governor has stated, as the Bureau of the Budget has stated, Dr. 52  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 23, 1987 Mandeville and everybody else during campaign time back home has stated, is a priority. Well, here's a chance to indicate that it is a priority by voting 'yes' on this Amendment. It's a very, very important one. The people at the local level have been doing their part, as far as local taxes are concerned. They have been trying. They have been doing a good job. It's now the state's responsibility, our responsibility, at least to adopt this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Kankakee, Mr. Novak, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this. I think special education is very important to all the disadvantaged kids in the State of Illinois and that's why I support it. I urge everyone else to support it. One other thing I would like. For the record, on Amendment 21, cast a 'no' vote. On Amendment 21, a 'no' vote, for the record. I mean on Amendment 20. I'm sorry."

"Alright. Mr. Tate, for what purpose are you seeking recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe my name was used in debate and I would like to correct."

"Mr. Tate, she was responding to you... as I recall."

"No, it was a Representative, a previous speaker in the debate used my name, if you will recall."

"Well, to certainly clear your good name, Mr. Tate, proceed, but do not address the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Okay."

"Do not address the Amendment."

"I would just like to make sure that this chamber knows and clearly understands. there is not one Republican on this side, Mr. Matijevich, that you can say is against special 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 education. We'll put the votes on this program. Our priority on this side of the aisle is education and we'll be there when it counts, Mr. Matijevich."

"Alright, proceed. Your name has been exonerated. Mr. Matijevich, for what purpose are you seeking recognition?"

"Well, Speaker, I don't think I ever rose on personal privilege and really it's probably not. I didn't realize I used his name in the debate, but he did use mine."

"I know."

"But let me tell you, if I were Republican, I wouldn't vote for this either."

"Mr. Matijevich, to the... only to the restoration of your good name."

"No, I want to explain... I want to explain my personal privilege. Because if I were Republican, I wouldn't vote for this either because this may eliminate some of your jobs that you've got out there. You know, I was amazed when a guy that works in the Department of Transportation in my district said to me, he said, 'Do you know what they are doing?' He said, 'They are having guys work overtime in the Department of Transportation trying to find out what programs they need so that the Governor can have a tax increase.' So, I wouldn't vote for this either."

"Mr. Matijevich, you have gone beyond... your good name has been restored. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 56 voting 'aye', 33 voting 'no', 20 voting 'present' and this Amendment has been adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #22, offered by Representative Davis." 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Davis, on Amendment #22."

"Mr. Speaker, we withdraw Amendment #22."

"22 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #23, offered by Representative Davis."

"Ms. Davis, on Amendment 23."

"Alright. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this Amendment adds $100,000 to the State Board of Education in order to assist the programs for the high-risk or drop out prevention programs. In doing this, we help to decrease the welfare rolls by making sure that students complete elementary and are prepared for high school. High-risk children are children who are reading one or two years below expected level or achieving in math one or two years below level. High-risk students are often absent. They are often truant from school. These programs that will be provided with these funds will offer assistance to these pupils bringing in parent involvement and making certain that these students are prepared and able to finish high school. We ask a favorable vote on this Amendment and I'd like a Roll Call."

"Lady from Cook moves for the adoption of Amendment #23 to House Bill 482. The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield to a question?"

"Indicates she will yield for a question."

"Is this a new program?"

"Yes, Sir, it is."

"And what does it do?"

"It will give tutorial assistance, parental guidance and counseling to students who are high-risk at the elementary 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 level and also at the high school level. Okay, it isn't a new program. We're adding funds to an existing program."

"And where is this money going to be spent?"

"Throughout the state."

"And the amount is 100..."

"An additional 100,000."

"$100,000?"

"Yes, Sir."

"And you are adding $100,000 to an existing program which is in this Bill at what level?"

"Ten million."

"You are adding $100,000 to a ten million dollar program?"

"Yes, yes, we are."

"Well, obviously, that's an extravagance."

"Well, I think it's an extravagance, Sir, when you have a number of students who drop out of high school and who are not prepared to work and whose... the state budget spends most of their money on welfare and it appears that some of the legislation that comes from that side of the aisle, that's what you intend to keep doing. We'd like to halt... we'd like to halt the amount of money that's spent in that budget on welfare and one of the major ways of doing this is making sure that you have educated citizens in the State of Illinois. The funds are there and we can spend them on programs of this nature."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker..."

"Proceed, Sir, to the Bill."

"To the Amendment. To the Amendment. If we are going to apply $100,000 to all students reading below... a grade level... one or two years below a grade level, obviously, it is not going to affect very many individuals. Those of you who understand how we determine what constitutes 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 reading below grade level knows that that's a constantly moving number depending on where the median is. So, if you read at the median or above, you are alright. If you read the median below, you then are in reading below grade level. We will always have students reading below grade level unless we decide to eliminate the lower two quartiles in the scale, which, of course, statistically, is nonsense. I think this Amendment does little and should be opposed. It is, in fact, an add on on top of what the Committee has already approved."

"Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm sure the Sponsor is very well intended, in fact, probably is a well deserving, well crafted Amendment. However, I'm sure also that each Member of this House would like another $100,000 for their specific district and right now, based on the current budget constraints, I reluctantly rise in opposition to your Amendment."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."

"Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I find the debate against this proposal kind of astonishing. Normally, people are opposed to something because it's too much money to spend, but people are now opposed to this because it isn't enough money. I mean, I think people who want to oppose appropriation Amendments ought to get their stories straight. I think the Lady should be congratulated for her self-restraint. I think the Lady understands that this is a tight budget year. There is a problem and she is trying to address it and it's a very restrained, very inexpensive Amendment. I think we ought to support it."

"The Lady from Cook, Ms. Davis, to close."

"We would certainly urge a 'yes' vote for the simple 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 reason it is not enough money, however, we do feel we can afford an additional 100,000. The state does not live up to its constitutional mandate in funding education and that might be part of the reason that we have such a high drop-out rate. All of us are at risk until we do something to halt this tremendous problem across the State of Illinois and this money is not just for my district, Representative Tate. This money is for the State of Illinois and those children who are possibly one or two years below level. The Governor, himself, in his Inaugural Address, stated he wanted to catch these students at an early age and not wait until it's too late. This is catching those students before they go to alternative programs and I urge you to consider the children and vote 'yes' for this Amendment."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?" Those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 31 voting 'aye', 63 voting 'no', 10 voting "present". The Amendment fails. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #24, offered by Representative Cullerton."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is $50,000 to help recodify the School Code. I think that it would probably break the budget if we were to pass it, so I would ask that we withdraw it."

"#23 (sic - #24) withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, moves to waive the appropriate rules so this 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Bill may be heard at this time. Is there leave? Leave to use the Attendance Roll Call. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on Third Reading."

"House Bill 482, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the State Board of Education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think we now know what we are passing on for the State Board of Education to... and I would move for the passage of House Bill 482 so that the Senate can go to work on it as quickly as possible."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 482, and on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading, on page 2 of the Calendar, appears House Bill 483. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 483, a Bill for an Act making appropriation to the State Board of Education. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments 21 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Amendments with respect to the Amendments?"

"A Motion to table Amendment 2, offered by Representative Curran."

"Yes, Mr. Rowman, you are to take that. 59  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 Proceed, Mr. Bowman."

"Yes, I'll handle the Motion."

"With leave, proceed."

"Thank you. I move to table Amendment... the Amendment #2. This was something that was an add on in Committee and with further discussions later, have approved that we will take care of this another way, so I will now move to table Amendment #2."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman, moves to table Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Gentleman please explain what he's tabling and why he's tabling it?"

"It's the ten million to the City of Chicago and I thought we all agreed that we should be restrained, right?"

"Thank you."

"Question is, 'Shall this Amendment be tabled?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment 2 is tabled. Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Tate."

"Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate."

"Withdraw."

"Amendment #3 is withdrawn. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Tate."

"Withdraw it. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Gentleman... Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on Third Reading."

"House Bill 483, a Bill for an Act making 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 appropriation to the State Board of Education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 483 is the appropriation for general state aid for summer school payments and I would move for its passage."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo, moves for the passage of House Bill 483. On that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open and this is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is here by declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading appears House Bill 770. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 770, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of State Police. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Motions with respect to Amendment #1?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there Floor Amendments?"

"Amendments 2 and 3 lost in Committee. Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representatives Stephens and Parcells."

"Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens, on Amendment #4."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #4 to House Bill 770 in effect would 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 eliminate 16 state trooper positions. The intent of the Amendment, Mr. Speaker, is to address the East St. Louis detail of the state police budget. Now, there is not a single line item that deals with the East St. Louis detail so we had to address it this way and just address the 16 state troopers and the ancillary monies that go in funding those troopers. Mr. Speaker, what is happening in the City of East St. Louis, last summer, because of the gang crime in the City of East St. Louis, a decision was made by the Governor and the Director of the Department of State Police to send a detail of state troopers to the City of East St. Louis to address the gang crime on the streets. Mayor Officer made a statement that, well, they would be out of there by Thanksgiving. Well, several holidays have come and gone and the state troopers are still there. My problem with having the state police patrol the City of East St. Louis is pretty simple. The fact of the matter is that the City of East St. Louis is not living up to its obligations and providing proper police protection for the citizens that live and reside in the City of East St. Louis. Several months ago, I asked permission to ride on a detail with the state police. Permission was granted and I spent about five hours on the streets riding with the troopers and they are doing a great job. The fact is that because they are doing a good job, the City of East St. Louis is getting away with irresponsible use of tax dollars in that what they are doing while the state police put eight troopers every night on the streets of East St. Louis to patrol the streets and to prevent crime, the City of East St. Louis puts four police officers on the street. While they are putting four police officers on the city streets to protect the people, the population somewhere between 40 and 50,000, Mayor Carl Officer, and I witnessed 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 this at midnight on a Friday night, he said he was having a staff meeting - I suppose it's a funny time to have a staff meeting at fifteen minutes after midnight on a Friday night - I witnessed, he had six body guards. Six body guards paid for out of the municipal budget for police protection, while the 40,000 people that live in the City of East St. Louis were being protected by four police officers. It's absolutely ridiculous the way we allow the City of misuse funds and then we subsidize them by sending 16 state troopers down there, eight at a time to patrol the streets in the middle of the night. What we have to do, Mr. Speaker, is to address the issue of how we deal with whether or not a city is allowed to misuse funds and then we come in and subsidize their bad judgment. I suggest that we send a message to the state police and then through them to the City of East St. Louis that we no longer will tolerate misuse of municipal funds that affect the state budget. If the City of East St. Louis were doing its job, we would not need to put those troopers in the City of East St. Louis and they could be fighting crime throughout the State of Illinois. In the Metro-East area alone we had a murder the other day at... that was supposedly gang related. It wasn't in the City of East St. Louis. It was in the City of O'Fallon, one of the outer townships in St. Clair County. I suggest that if we need 16 state troopers, they ought to patrol the entire area. They ought to affect crime throughout the state and not just go to one city, stop at the border, because that City has made a conscious decision that they think it's more important to protect the Mayor with bodyguards than they do to protect the people on the streets who are most affected by crime. I would move for the adoption of Amendment $4."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens, 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day moves for the May 28, 1987 adoption of Amendment #4, and on that, the Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Flinn."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this Amendment. The Sponsor has total disregard for a sizeable number of citizens in southern Illinois, East St. Louis in particular. The state police and everyone down in St. Clair County has agreed that the state police has made quite a difference in the crime rate, quite a difference in the safety for the citizens down there and I can't stand up here and accuse Representative Stephens of playing politics with people's lives, but it sure sounds like it from all the stories I have read in the paper. I really believe that we should consider the safety of the citizens. If that takes state money and state police, that's fine. We did this in Chicago. We had the state police patrolling the state... interstate highways in Chicago now in a trade off for a lottery out at O'Hare Field. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong at all with our trying to protect the people of the City of East St. Louis. And I want to tell you right now, I can't understand why Representative Younge is not up screaming her head off."

"The Lady from St. Clair, Ms. Younge."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I simply say that my light was on and I appreciate being called at this time. I am opposed to this Amendment too. I think that the arguments that Representative Stephens has given are absolutely irrational. There is no question but in addition to citizens that need protection in East St. Louis there are businesses, there are industrial areas, there's a riverfront that we are attempting to develop and in order to entice people to come to cities, you need adequate police protection. The City of East St. Louis has had a decline in its tax base from 180 million dollars to 34 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 million dollars and it cannot at this time provide adequate police protection. And for those reasons, I ask you to vote 'no' on this outrageous Amendment."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."

"The Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he'll yield for questions."

"In your presentation, you said you wanted to eliminate how much money?"

"I think the total is $339,200 in personal services."

"And did you not, in fact, admit that by eliminating that amount of money that it would not, indeed, do what you want it to do?"

"Well, it... yes, it could. It is not... this is not... I want to make sure that everyone understands. This is not a line item for the East St. Louis detail. It is 16 troopers. There is no line item for that. My intent is that then the Director of the Department of State Police would react... if this Amendment became law, that they would pull those 16 troopers out of the City of East St. Louis."

"You then gave a very eloquent speech on a very flawed Amendment because it will never do what you want it to do. Maybe you should have drafted an Amendment for one dollar for the patrol of East St. Louis and you would have been better off. I would encourage everyone to defeat this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf."

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

"Gentleman from Madison, Mr. Wolf, moves the previous question be put. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. Opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it... put. Mr. Stephens, to close."

"Just briefly, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 House. I think that we ought to be offended when the mayor of a city decides that of the ten people working on the streets of the city, that he, the mayor, deserves protection by six of those, direct protection by six of those while the city... the citizens of that city who pay the taxes, who have to put up with the crime, are protected by four. Maybe Representative Leverenz was right. Maybe this is not a technically correct way to go about pulling those funds out of the City of East St. Louis, but the sentiment is correct. It is totally inappropriate for the citizens of Illinois to protect the Mayor of East St. Louis while his people suffer. I move for its adoption."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed vote "no". Voting is open. Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker. I tell you, I was just amazed when I heard the topic of debate on this topic. Frankly, they have been calling this Amendment irrational, ineffective and things like that. The fact of the matter is that there is a problem down in East St. Louis. He talked to the State Police Department back in January and February to have them give us a plan, simply a plan to get those troopers out of there in some orderly manner. The same thing can happen in any town in this state and how are we going to say no once we have set this precedent. Now, we have asked for a plan. We haven't got it. We believe that this is absolutely the best way to send a message to the state troopers and I would appreciate an 'aye" vote instead of the 'no' short-sighted vote that's being cast right now."

"The Gentleman from Coles, Mr. Weaver, one minute to explain your vote." 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

May 28, 1987 "Thank you. Ar. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. and particularly those of you who represent downstate counties, I want you to tell me how many of your small towns cannot afford even to have one full-time policeman on board and yet here we have a situation where state troopers are used on a day-to-day basis to patrol the city. We can't afford it either, but by gosh, we find a way to fund a police force that we've got to have. We have high crime areas as well. That shouldn't be the criteria. I think it's a bad precedent to set and I think it's an even worse precedent to continue. We've got to have green votes on this issue."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ar. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 48 voting 'aye, 64 voting 'no', I voting present and the Amendment fails. Are there further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5 is being offered by Representative Didrickson."

"The Lady... Ms. Didrickson has been excused this morning. Alright, Mr. Mays, on Amendment #5."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'd like leave of the House to handle these Amendments for Representative Didrickson. Very good. And then I'd like to withdraw Amendment #5."

"Amendment #5 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Didrickson Mays."

"Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays, on Amendment 6."

"Thank you very much. I'd like to withdraw Amendment #6."

"Amendment 6 withdrawn. Further Amendment?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative 67  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Didrickson and Mays."

"Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays, on Amendment 7." May 28, 1987

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The previous two Amendments addressed a topic that I'm sure some of you had some knowledge with, the I Search program. We had extensive meetings with the Department over the operations and the continued initiatives of the Department in this specific area and what Amendment #7 does is reduce the I Search appropriation by $550,700 on various operator lines to basically bring it back to Fiscal '87 levels and maintain the current initiatives that the Department has adopted in this area. The Department has agreed with this Amendment and I would move for its passage."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment 7. On that is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays, asks leave of the House, using the Attendance Roll Call, that this Bill may be heard at this time. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on Third Reading."

"House Bill 770, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of State Police. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays."

"Yes, I simply move for the passage of this Bill. We discussed some of the high points previously, so I move its passage." 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?" All those in favor signify by voting 'aye", those opposed vote 'no". Voting is now open and this is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, Mr. Panayotovich votes 'aye'. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 777. Mr. Clerk, on the Order of Second Reading, read the Bill."

"House Bill 777, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. Has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Motions with respect to Amendments #1, 2 and 3?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #2, offered by Speaker Madigan."

"Alright, Mr. Leverenz, on Amendment #2."

"On Amendment #2, for the Speaker, on behalf of the Speaker, I move to table that Amendment which I put on in Committee."

"The Gentleman from Cook moves for the... moves to table Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be tabled? All in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #2 is tabled. Are there further... Are there any Amendments?"

"No further Motions. Floor Amendment #4 is being offered by Representative Kirkland."

"Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Kirkland, Amendment 4. 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Withdrawn. May 28, 1987 Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5 is being offered by Representative Kirkland."

"Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Kirkland, on Amendment 5. Amendment #5 withdrawn, Mr. Kirkland? Withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, being offered by Representative Rea."

"Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, on Amendment #6. Mr. Rea."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Amendment... Amendment #6, what this does is that we have recently established a co-marketing and development office. We funded it for $200,000 the first year and the Citizens Committee for Energy recommended that we increase that $100,000 to make that a total for $300,000 in order to be able to do the type of work that is needed in trying to market a valuable resource of coal and I would ask for the adoption."

"Gentleman from Franklin moves for the adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 777. On that, the Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"Indicates he will."

"Can you tell me what some of these ordinary and contingent expenses are of the office that we need to increase by 50 percent?"

"Okay, as you know, it was late whenever the Department got started and there were... in terms of personnel, some contractual services there and they worked with the Mississippi Valley Coal Marketing... or Coal Exporting Council and these are... were monies were needed to work 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 with people from other countries as well as here in the United States in promoting the sale of Illinois coal."

"What's this Mississippi marketing group that you were talking about?"

"It's the Mississippi Valley Coal Exporting Council. This is a council that's been meeting to try to increase exports to other countries of coal for quite some time, for about five years."

"How much are we paying them?"

"How much? He... He have a contract with them for approximately $60,000."

"$60,000 contract with them to market our coal?"

"I believe that's correct. Hell, because..."

"Okay."

"... they have a tremendous amount of expertise and contacts that we do not have in establishing a new office here."

"Okay, I would simply rise in opposition to the Amendment at this time. We don't have the type of revenues to support add ons, whether it's for this worth purpose or for numerous others and so for that reason, I would opposed the Gentleman's Amendment."

"Further discussion? The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos' have it and the Amendment fails. Further Amendment?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative

Homer. Speaker Greiman: "The Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave at this time to withdraw Amendment #7."

"Amendment #7 withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Breslin." 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"The Amendment #8." Breslin: May 28, 1987 Lady from LaSalle, Ms. Breslin, on "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen. this Amendment will fund the Household Hazardous Waste Collection Grant Program that we have previously passed from this Session. It does not, however, take money from the General Revenue Fund, as initially intended. The Amendment is drafted so that money will come from the solid waste management fund. That fund presently has adequate funds in it. I have cleared this Amendment with the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. They are in agreement with the Amendment with the understanding, of course, that there may be some law suits pending that they will have to take priority funds from that and I understand that. But at this time, I believe the Department is in agreement with the Amendment and I think it is an appropriate use..."

"The Lady from LaSalle moves for the adoption of Amendment #8 to House Bill 777, and on that, the Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays."

"I simply rise in support of the Amendment and must stress that this is not GRF and as the Lady said, if the court case comes down against us, we won't be able to do anything with the previous Bill that passed this House nor will we be able... we will be putting in a bind many of the other projects we had sought to fund. So, the Department agrees, I agree, everybody agrees, so let's go."

"Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates that she will yield for questions."

"I don't know if you indicated in your presentation the cost of this. I just didn't hear it."

"The cost is $500,000, which was the initial proposal as 72  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 well under House Bill 1666, however, that was GRF funds. This is fees, solid waste fees."

"Right, and do you know how much is generated by this... by the fee schedule that we set up last year for this fund?"

"I don't have those figures. I do know that it is generating more than was anticipated. $10,000,000, I am told from staff."

"I don't think that I would oppose the Amendment. I would just say that the purpose of the solid waste management fund, it's a two year tax and the purpose of that is to provide grants in order to establish a solid waste plans for given areas and I don't know if this is as important as the original intent of that law or not. I mean it is absolutely important that every area of the state try to decide what they are going to do with tons of garbage that is beginning to bury us. Now, perhaps your program is just as important. I don't know, but thank you."

"I... to Members who are concerned about that issue, they should know, however, that the present fund is generating more money than anticipated and more money than we are spending under the original proposal. So, we are not going to be taking away from the planning of local communities for solid waste management."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments to this Bill?"

"Floor Amendment #9, being offered by Representative Johnson."

"Gentleman from Champaign. Mr. Johnson, on Amendment #9. Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson, 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 53rd Legislative Day apparently your microphone... oh, it is working. You have to speak for it to work. Right."

"No, this is a project that would appropriate $150,000 to the Illinois State Water Survey to conduct a study of the water shed along the 'Ambra' River. Move for its adoption."

"Gentleman from Champaign moves for the adoption of Amendment 189 to House Bill 777, and on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."

"This is identical to another Amendment which was withdrawn by the Sponsor because of the constraints with the general revenue. I would encourage the Gentleman to withdraw it. Otherwise, I rise to encourage opposition to the Amendment so that it would fail."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos' have it. The Amendment fails. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #10, being offered by Representatives Homer and Slater."

"Gentleman from Fulton, Mr. Homer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #10 is somewhat of a twist of the normal circumstances that we vote on here. Normally, what we have are projects that are wanted by a local district and the question is whether the state can afford to spend the money for the project. Some Members understandably vote against that in austere times. Here we have the flip side of that issue where the state is talking about engaging in a very expensive project in Fulton County, which I represent, and the Fulton County Board is vehemently against it. In other words, the locals don't want the state to spend money on a project that the state is looking at in Fulton County. So, this ought to be about 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 the easiest vote that we make here today because this is going to save the state money. Just by brief explanation as to what I am talking about, back before the 1920's there was a large lake on the Illinois River in Fulton County known as Thompson Lake, no connection to the Governor that I know of, but at that time, it was purchased and a levy was put up and it was changed to farmland. That now is 12,000 plus acre of farm that's been in active production, some of the best soil that we have in the State of Illinois with consistently high crop yields and the owner of that property announced a year ago his intention to sell it. At that time, that gave rise to some speculation, "Well, gee. Maybe the state ought to look at going in an buying that and converting it back again to a lake as it was many years ago. The Fulton County Board, through its Planning Commission and land use committees and the Board itself voted overwhelmingly in opposition to that proposal by and large because the farm is in active production. It has 100 employees, a million dollar payroll for the area. It's approximately $100,000 in local property tax revenue each year and in spite of that, the Department of Energy and Natural Resources is urging the Governor to engage in a feasibility study about spending state money... to propose the possibility of spending state money to study putting this lake... this farm back into a lake even though the locals don't want it. And so, what this Amendment that Representative Slater, who represents the other half of Fulton County, and I would say is that no money in & R's budget would be used for the purpose of conducting planning or feasibility study for the Thompson Lake proposal that is currently being discussed and I would urge your favorable consideration."

"Gentleman from Fulton moves for the adoption of 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Amendment #LO to House Bill 777. On that, the Gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To the Sponsor of the Amendment. I certainly don't have any quarrel with what you explained. I sympathize with you. I would just like to tell you and the people in Fulton County, we, in Vermilion, have been trying to get a lake built there for 20 years. Send them up, will you?"

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 777, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Energy and Natural Resources. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays, on House Mays: Bill 777." "Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move passage for House Bill 777, the Department of Energy and Natural Resources operations budget."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption... for the passage of House Bill 777. On that, there being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment... shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Dunn, 'aye'. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. This 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Chair is about to recess to give us an opportunity to go to our various Committees this afternoon. It is the intention of the Chair to return here at 4:30 to continue consideration of House Bill... of the appropriations. It is imperative that Members return. I'm advised that the Committees that will be meeting now... Election Law Committee will be meeting in C-1. Energy and Environment in 114. Revenue in 118. Registration and Regulation have been cancelled Yes, Mr. Krska. Mr. Krska."

"For an announcement. Registration and Regulation has been cancelled for today."

"Thank you, okay, so that will be cancelled. Kulas: Mr. Kulas." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to have leave to waive the posting rules so that Senate Bill 1013 can be heard in Energy and Environment I've cleared this with the Minority Spokesman."

"The Gentleman asks leave of the House to use the Attendance Roll Call to waive the posting rules... to House Bill 1013. Leave is granted? Leave is granted. Alright, so accordingly, Ladies and Gentlemen, we will stand in recess until the hour of 4:30 and return promptly to continue on appropriations. The House stands in recess."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the hour of 4:30 has arrived so if all Members would return to the House floor, we'll begin to proceed as expeditiously as possible. We'll wait a few minutes for Members to come to the floor, but would all Members return to the floor as quickly as possible? The House will now be back in Perfunctory Session. Introduction of Senate Bills." 77  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987

"Senate Bill 82, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the Structural Pest Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 170, Brunsvold, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 207, McGann, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Vocational Education Board. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 216, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 300, Granberg, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 465, Brunsvold, a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Control Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 468, Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to regulate ground water use. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 478, Ryder, a Bill for an Act in relation to the regulation of podiatric medicine. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 535, White, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 698, Huff, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the Public School System in the City of Chicago. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 699, Huff, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the school districts and Board of Education. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 722, Ronan, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1003, Martinez, a Bill for an Act to amend the Barber and Cosmetology Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1020, White, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1032, Johnson, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to notices. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1147, Curran, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Living Will Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1282, Hannig, 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to definition, registration and regulation to the practice of land surveying. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1286, Capparelli and DeLeo, a Bill for an Act to amend the Trust and Trustees Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1291, Hannig, a Bill for an Act in relation to installation of fire hydrants. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1319, Sutker, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1376, Brunsvold, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1386, Steczo, a Bill for an Act to amend the township law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1390, Giglio, a Bill for an Act in relation to the merger of special districts in the townships. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1416, Capparelli and DeLeo, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1456, Hautino and Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to regulate the granting of assistance to indigent war veterans and their families. First Reading of the Bill."

"Messages from the Senate."

"A Message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker. Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolution, the adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit: Senate Joint Resolutions #28, 49, 56 and 58, adopted by the Senate May 28, 1987. Linda Hawker, Secretary.."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the House will come to order. We will go back to the Order of House Bills on Second Reading that are appropriation matters. The next 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Bill is House Bill 778. Representative Hays. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 778, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses for the Department of Central Management Services. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Withdraw Amendment #5. The Gentleman withdraws 5 and 6. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7, offered by Representative Mays."

"Representative Mays withdraw #7. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #8, offered by Representative Leverenz and Mays."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This Amendment #8 would restore $12,200,000 into the budget and I would move for the adoption of Amendment #8."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #8 to House Bill 778 and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, Shall Amendment #8 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 780... excuse me, 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Representative Mays now asks leave for... unanimous leave for immediate consideration of House Bill 778 as amended. Does he have leave? Hearing no objection, the Gentleman has leave. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 778, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expense of Central Management Services. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mays."

"Yes, thank you very much, Madam Speaker. This is the operations budget for the Department of Central Management Services. I would move its passage."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 778, and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, "Shall House Bill 778 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Mr. Clerk, would you vote me 'aye', please? Thank you. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 783, Representative Tate. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 783, a Bill for an Act making appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions or Amendments?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #2, offered by Representative Bowman."

"Representative Bowman." 81  STATE OF ILLINGIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I reluctantly offer this Motion to table Amendment #2. Amendment #2 added about 24 million dollars back to the institutional lines that had been cut out by virtue of Amendment #1. Amendment #1 took the Department's budget in all lines down to the Fiscal Year '87 expenditure levels which was basically what we were doing with every department that we were dealing with. The problem is, in the case of Mental Health, a very large Department with many employees, the AFSCME contract with... coupled with the fact that they have very few vacancies would force the Department to lay off a number of employees, which we felt would jeopardize the certification of several of the facilities and make it... make it unlikely that they would receive federal reimbursement. Moreover, we have been notified that the Howe facility is going to be decertified by the Federal Government in mid-July. So this is a real concern, a real issue; however, I am offering the Motion to table because it is still early in the process and because Representative from the other side of the aisle has offered an Amendment subsequent to mine that would, I think, be the sort of Amendment that would be... create a debate that would not be very constructive. And so, I think the easiest thing to do at this point to move the Bill along is simply table Amendment 2, which I now propose we do."

"The Gentleman has moved to table Amendment #2 to House Bill 783, and on that question, the Gentleman from Macon, Representative Tate."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield for a question on this tabling?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, does this mean that... that if you table the Amendment that you don't feel like debating the issue 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 of where we should prioritize our funding in this state in mental health?"

"Well, Representative, I think the time is late and that people here want to move on. We have at least 20 other Bills on our Calendar. As I said earlier, it's still early in the process. I think we can deal with that another time."

"Well, Representative, does that mean you are in favor of spending additional funding on community service providers in mental health?"

"It means I'm tabling the Amendment is what it means."

"Representative Tate, do you wish to speak to the Bill? No. Gentleman from Cook, Representative Preston, on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He will."

"Representative Bowman, do I understand that Amendment #2 added... did you say it added 24 million dollars to the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities budget?"

"Yes."

"And so tabling the Amendment would remove that request to put those 24 million dollars into that budget?"

"That's right. If you vote for this Amendment, you are voting to save 24 million dollars."

"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall the House table Amendment 2 to House Bill 783?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question that are 88 voting 'aye', 22 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present', and the House 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 tables Amendment #2. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate. Withdraw #2. Are there any further Amendments? Excuse me. Withdraw #3. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate. Withdraw... Withdraw #4? Withdraw #4. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Tate."

"Withdraw #5. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 783, a Bill for an Act making appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Tate."

"Well, thank you. Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think, as Representative Bowman has indicated, I don't think anyone is totally satisfied with the way we are passing this budget out of this Committee. I think it's probably... there's some insufficient funding in several areas and hopefully our colleagues in the Senate will send us this Bill back with an opportunity to continue work on this issue."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 783, and on that question, the Gentleman from 84  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 Madison. Representative McPike."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Will the... Will this budget level require layoffs in the Department of Mental Health?"

"I think there may... it may, in fact, have some layoffs, yes."

"Could you estimate how many?"

"The Department didn't estimate the number."

"I was told by staff that it was around 1400. Do you have any idea if that's correct?"

"They did not indicate and provide us with any specific numbers. If your staff has received that... those numbers, that is new information to us."

"The Department has said that they will lay off people with this level of funding?"

"That's correct."

"Well, why are we passing the budget at this level then if we realize... if we recognize that this is going to require layoffs and if we know that these institutions are going to be decertified by the Federal Government. we are going to lose all federal monies, why are we passing the budget at this level?"

"Well, Representative McPike, Representative Bowman had put on in Committee an Amendment that would provide for 24 million dollars in the operations line for the 22 facilities in this state. I offered Amendments that would shift that funding to community line providers which I feel provide quality service at a much more cost effective fashion. I believe... I personally believe... I still believe that some of that... the community providers could absorb some of the population. The trend in this country, as well as the state, by the 'experts' has been towards the 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day institutionalization. facilities. That means That means that May 28, 1987 consolidation of providing what the experts believe they provide better care in the communities than they do in facilities and in institutions in this state."

"I have a facility in my district that has 300 severely mentally retarded individuals that are not going to be deinstitutionalized. My concern is that that institution is going to be decertified by the Federal Government. That's my question to you. Is this funding level going to result in my institution in my district and the other institutions throughout the state being decertified by the Federal Government and I guess the answer probably is yes because it's going to require layoffs and my question to you again is why are we passing a budget at this level then?"

"Representative, I think I have answered that question."

"Okay, thank you."

"I would have preferred to provide additional funding for community providers."

"I understand you want to provide money for the community providers. I asked..."

"And I also..."

"My questions was how about the state institutions? Why aren't we providing more money for state institutions?"

"But in specific reference to your situation, if you have 300 severely handicapped people, I would suggest to you that we can find in this state group homes to accommodate those kinds of concerns, that there are... that that is the type of quality care that can be provided the type of attention. What we have in..."

"Well, when you find such a home, you let us know. We'd be glad to hear about it."

"Well, you provide... you help me provide the funding and 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day we will... we'll provide that home." May 28, 1987

"Gentlemen. Gentlemen. Tha Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman, on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to table Amendment #2 as a tactical effort, not because I believed in the substance of the tabling Motion. As it presently stands now, this budget is in tragic shape and I wouldn't blame anybody on this floor for voting against the budget. I wouldn't blame any single person on this floor if they voted against this Bill and I personally plan to vote against the Bill because the budget of this Department is in a shape that I don't believe that we can be proud of going out of here. Now, the Minority Spokesman in my Committee had an Amendment that was out of order with the tabling of Amendment #2 that would have, I think, contributed to a very chaotic situation. He was going to propose taking all of the money that we provided for institutions and just... and give it to community programs and Heaven knows they can provide... they need money, but the problem is that by taking it out of the institutions, we do risk decertification and that's something I don't think we can be very proud of. So, I plan to vote "no" on this budget and I wouldn't blame anybody else if they voted 'no'. And if the Bill goes down, we'll find someplace to put the Bill."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Tate, to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. As has been previously mentioned in almost every other budget, this is still very early in this process. I don't disagree with what the previous speaker has just indicated in terms of I don't think anyone is satisfied with the level of spending that we currently have in mental health in this state, but I 87  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 would suggest to the Members that if they believe that spending 24 million dollars on bureaucrats and protecting bureaucrats and protecting an AFSCME contract and protecting people instead of providing funds where people have cost effective way of delivering services and people care about those services, then I would say that maybe we do... maybe the other side of the aisle has their priorities in the wrong place and I ask for this budget to be passed over to the Senate and I ask for its approval."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 783 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We talked earlier about balancing certain budgets on the backs of certain groups and right here and now we are seeing and listening to the drum beat for a tax increase being played squarely on the backs of the mentally ill and developmentally disabled of this state. A 'no' vote is the only correct vote on this Bill."

"The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. There were a number of us from the Peoria area that held a hearing last year at the Zeller Zone Facility and heard witness after witness, including staff members, talk about the moral of that facility being at an all-time low because of the transfer in of patients that had been at the closed down Galesburg mental hospital and here we are talking about a budget that if it passes will result in an additional 1200 employees being laid off. In the face of that kind of evidence, that kind of testimony, it would be unconscionable, I believe, to pass such a budget in light of the crisis that exists within our 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DESATE May 28, 1987 53rd Legislative Day mental institution... mental hospitals, under the current circumstances. So, I urge a 'no' vote."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I think we are going to be seeing, as we go through some of these budgets, some real harsh cuts that we had to make and we did so in a bipartisan manner in addressing these budgets. I guess there's many ways you can look at it. The best is probably at this point they're going to be 641 million dollars ahead of where they are if you kill this budget. I think we want to keep that momentum going and hopefully we can move it up."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Coles, Representative Weaver, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I guess I'm a little bit confused. The Chairman of the Appropriations II Committee just stood up and said that he didn't have enough control over the Committee to get the Bill out in the kind of shape that he wanted it out. If you can't do it with the Majority, I don't know how you expect us to do it for you. I think we need to get some kind of a budget passed out so that we can deal with it and get it into a form that's livable for the State of Illinois."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 49 voting 'aye', 58 voting 'no' and 4 voting 'present'. Representative Tate."

"We'd like to put... Can I put this on Postponed Consideration?" 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 53rd Legislative Day

"Surely. The Bill will be placed on the Order of Postponed Consideration. House Bill 784, Representative Mays. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 784, a Bill for an Act making appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 and 10 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz withdraws #13. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Ropp."

"Representative Ropp."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. This is an Amendment that restores 15 million dollars to the Diamond Star program that deals with the commitment that this Body and the Governor had given prior to that company being initiated into the State of Illinois and I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of House Bill 7... or Amendment #14 to House Bill 784, and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #14 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it... all those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn, one minute to explain your vote." 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, ourselves Ladies May 28, 1987 and Gentlemen of the House. I don't see how we can support this vote. Those of us who are from central Illinois and downstate Illinois find with... in a position of our taxpayers having paid for Diamond Star and getting no contracts to supply Diamond Star and further more, if we can't fund mental health and education, I don't know what we would be doing putting money in this Amendment. So, it's a bad Amendment.

I urge more red votes." "Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 62 voting 'aye', 43 voting "no" and voting 'present' and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" 2

Clerk O'Brien "Floor Amendment #15, offered by Representative Mays."

"The Gentleman withdraws #15. Excuse me. The Gentleman does not withdraw #15. Representative Mays, on #15."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Amendment #15 deletes..."

"Excuse me. Could I seek Representative Leverenz and ask you for what reason you rise, Sir?"

"Inquiry of the Chair on the... it being technically incorrect."

"Yes, Representative Mays, our reading of it shows that it is technically incorrect because it deletes all Committee add ons. I'm sure that's what you wanted to do..."

"That... That's exactly what we wanted to do."

"But it is technically incorrect and another Amendment has been drafted which suits your purpose."

"Thank you very much." 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

May 28, 1987 "So, the Gentleman withdraws Amendment #15. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 16, offered by Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. House Amendment 16 gives a loan of $5,000,000 to Rosemont for the construction of their... O'Hare... expansion to their O'Hare Center. This will be a loan paid back in five years at no interest. I move to adopt Amendment 16."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #16 to House Bill 784 and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion... All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Lady from Cook, Representative Williamson. one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. To explain my vote, I think this is a great concept because we are not just giving money away to a municipality. This time we are giving money as a loan. This money will be paid back. The Village of Rosemont will be using this money to expand their convention facilities, which is not privately owned. The money will be used to enlarge the facility so that we can attract more tourism to the State of Illinois and every one in the state will eventually benefit, plus it will be a creation of over 500 jobs. I vote in favor of this and urge 'aye' vote of this Amendment."

"Is there any further discussion? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 26 voting 'aye', 79 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present' and the 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #17, offered by Representative Saltsman."

"Representative Saltsman. Representative Saltsman."

"Thank you, Madam Chairman. This 2 million dollars is 2 million that the Governor had pledged in his campaign speeches throughout the State of Illinois. This is an appropriation that will take care of our agricultural research consortium. The Federal Government has already pledged their 2 million which he said he would match. In his budget, it was not in there. Therefore, I put this in as just a supplement to let the Governor sign this for what he campaigned for and he worked for before the election. Now, this was a good spot, I thought, because when the Director of this Agency, Director Hedges, appeared before the Appropriations Committee, he said this 2 million dollars was in the budget somewhere. Two days later, he called my local office in Peoria and he said... and his staff said, "This 2 million dollars is not in the budget, but put it in the Department of Agriculture's budget." Now, this is one of the Governor's agencies telling me to transfer it into another agency to get the load off of their back for a commitment that the Governor made throughout downstate Illinois. So, at this time, I ask everyone's support because this is a much needed program. Congressman Michel has already came through with Congress and the 2 million dollars that they appropriated toward this consortium and we are just trying to live up to our agreement that the Governor made for all of us here in the General Assembly and I ask for this Bill's passage to protect the Governor's commitments before his election campaign." 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #17 to House Bill 784, and on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"What is... what fund are you funding this from?"

"Well, he seems to find money in Department of Commerce and Community Affairs for anything he needs and so, therefore, I thought I would start with this one. I have also got an Amendment coming up in the Agriculture Agency's budget to protect him and where ever he can find it. I just want to make sure that he sees that he forgot what he promised the people and this is very important to our area because I have a holding company..."

"Excuse me. Representative Saltsman, the question put to you is. What funds does it come from? The General Revenue Fund, from a special fund, if you know."

"It will come out of DCCA right now if it comes out of this program or GRF."

"Do you have any further questions?"

"Yes, yes, Madam Speaker. Does the Amendment have to designate the fund that the money is to come from to be technically correct?"

"No, it doesn't. It doesn't designate."

"No, it does not."

"Okay, well, then, to the Bill... or to the Amendment. I simply rise in opposition to the Amendment on the basis that this is another add on to a budget that has seen a lot of add ons in both Committee and it looks like we'll see some more on the floor. I don't think it's appropriate at a time when we are saying no to mental health, as you just did, when we are saying no to many other areas and agencies that we should be saying yes for a brand new program for ag 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 research and development as needed as it may well be. I don't know where we have the money to come up with it and so we should just vote against this Amendment. I would request a Roll Call."

"Representative Saltsman, to close."

"I'm glad you requested a Roll Call because I definitely want one. I want to see if the Governor's people are going to back him in the commitment that he made and this is saying no to the farmer. It's saying no to the unemployment in the Peoria area and the economy up there and our systems for this agriculture really development consortium. We have a holding company in our area that's already spent thousands of dollars luring a company to come into central Illinois and a 'no' vote here, we are going to see how many people respect what the Governor committed. So this is his Bill. It's not Don Saltsman's."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #17 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 48 voting 'aye', 58 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. Representative Mulcahey, for what reason do you rise? No, he does not. Representative Black, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Chairman, for some reason, my light went out. It was a 'no' vote."

"Would you record Representative Black... yes or no? Sir? Voting 'no'. Representative Black votes 'no'. So, on this question, there are '48' voting 'aye', 59 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor..." 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION ДЕБАТЕ May 28, 1987 53rd Legislative Day

"Excuse me. Representative Mulcahey, for what reason do you rise?"

"Inquiry of the Chair, Madam Speaker."

"State your inquiry."

"How many Amendments are... have been filed on this Bill? Somewhere around 41..."

"45."

"45 Amendments?"

"Yes."

"Thank you."

"Amendment $18, Mr. Clerk."

"Amendment #18, offered by Representative Curran."

"Representative Curran."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a million dollars for the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs for the community action agencies and it gives them... this million dollars will go for family self-sufficiency programs. And I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #18 to House Bill 784, and on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much. Really the same pronouncement on this Amendment would apply as that did on the other one that we just defeated. This is another million dollars in General Revenue Fund dollars that the state simply does not have at this time. I, personally, don't have any idea what the million dollars for the community action agencies is going to do for us in the first place and I don't know exactly the level that they are currently funded. So, I would say that on that basis and on the basis that we don't have the million dollars to give them in the first place, I would oppose the Gentleman's Amendment." 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987

"Representative Curran, to close."

"Great idea. Ask for your vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #18 be adopted? All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 21 voting 'aye', 88 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #19, offered by Representative Hannig."

"Representative Hannig."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. The Bill would provide a grant of $300,000 to the town of Greenville for the construction of a water tower. The community of Greenville is in the process of developing an industrial park and they don't presently have the water pressure necessary in order to make that feasible. So, the project itself actually costs a million dollars. The community asks if we could get $600,000. So, I'm asking for $300,000 and maybe my Senator can get the other $300,000 and I'd ask for your 'yes' vote."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #19, and on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I would oppose this Amendment on the grounds that it is General Revenue Fund dollars that we'll be spending and adding to the DCCA budget."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Representative Wolf."

"Madam Speaker, I move the previous question."

"The Gentleman moves the previous question. The 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 question is, 'Shall the main question be put?" All those in favor say aye', all those opposed say "no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the main question is put. Representative Hannig, to close."

"Yes, thank you. Madam Chairman. Again, I'm asking for only $300,000 out of what is really a million dollar project. This is a community that is actually making a strong effort to attract business and to attract jobs and we are simply asking the State of Illinois to help out at a very small amount, a $300,000 grant." Speaker

Clerk Breslin: "The question is, 'Shall Amendment #19 be adopted?' All those in favor vote aye", all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 14 voting 'aye', 90 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #20, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thanks. No problem. I gotta beat 12 votes, Ladies and Gentlemen. This... This will really enhance the clean and beautiful program. It increases the grants line by $553,000 and a special line by $50,000 to the Chicago program and the total is $668,400. I'd ask for your 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #20 to House Bill 784, and on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I would simply ask that Members remain consistent in opposing this add on. It's obviously a worthy program or the Chairman wouldn't have been proposing it himself, but we have said 'no' to many other worthy programs and I would ask the Assembly to 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day maintain." May 23, 1987

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #20 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair... Do you want a Roll Call, Sir? Okay, all those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 13 voting 'aye", 96 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Representative Leverenz, for what reason do you rise?"

"I think I wanted to poll the absentee because I'd like to get in the Century Club in the red."

"He's excused, Sir. The absentee is excused."

"Well, then let's unexcuse."

"Anyone else seeking recognition? Representative Johnson, for what reason do you rise? No. Are there any further Amendments, Mr. Clerk? Excuse me. The Amendment failed. Amendment #20 failed. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #21, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz. The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #21?"

"Yep."

"#20... #22, Mr. Clerk."

"Amendment #22, offered by Representative Rea."

"Representative Rea."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #22 fits into the overall tourism and recreation development in the southern part of the state and is appropriate to be within the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. What has happened is that there has been some buildings that have 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 been purchased from the World's Fair. Those buildings are available and the site, the land is available to construct a national coal museum, which would be located along Interstate 57, which would attract many tourists to the area and certainly would be a very important component of economic development. And I would move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #22, and on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"I would encourage your green votes to the extent that I received. Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays. No further discussion? The question is, 'Shall Amendment #22 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos' have it, and the Amendment is lost. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #23, offered by Representative Rea."

"Representative Rea withdraws #23. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #24, offered by Representative Rea."

"Withdraw #24. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #25, offered by Representative Brunsvold."

"Representative Brunsvold. You're going to try your luck here? Okay, Representative Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #25 is not an increase. It is a change in language on line 23 of the Bill, on page 25, changing basic programs... or, excuse me, line 24, grants for mature industry, changes that line name 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 35th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 to John Deere and Company."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment 925, and on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative, where are you getting this money from?"

"Where?"

"Yes."

"Well, there isn't a change in where the money is coming from. It simply redesignates the mature industry's retraining. The money is already there, Representative Mays. It's simply changing the name of the line item."

"Were you a grammar teacher? Where are you redirecting these funds to?"

"Deere and Company, training money."

"Okay, so you are taking the entire line item down or you are redirecting the dollars from the entire line item to John Deere and Company."

"That is correct, Representative."

"Okay, thank you very much. To the Amendment. I applaud the Gentleman for being sensitive to the GRF needs. What he would do though would take away the ability for industries statewide, Chicago, collar and downstate, from being able to participate in this program. So... and there were a number of companies that did participate in this same program from this same line item just last year and I could give you a list, if you wanted it. For that reason, I would suggest that we vote 'no' on this Amendment."

"Representative Brunsvold, to close."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. There are a number of other line items on the Bill, Caterpillar projects, very appropriate. Belvidere projects. Also, 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Diamond Star has a line item for $15,000,000. All these are, of course, laudable projects. I give to you, however, that John Deere last week celebrated its 150th year of doing business in the State of Illinois. Now, I realize and I agree with Representative Hays that the whole line item is not probably appropriate for Deere and Company and it won't all be used. However, when you are negotiating and this is in the process of negotiations - you either negotiate from nothing or from a point of some authority and I would choose to run downhill rather than uphill. So, I would ask the people of the House now to adopt this Amendment and we'll go ahead and negotiate the training funds for Deere and Company."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #25 be adopted?* All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 17 voting 'aye", 86 voting "no" and none voting 'present', and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #26, offered by Representative DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher, do you withdraw this Amendment?"

"No, Madam Speaker."

"Representative DeJaegher, our perusal of the Bill shows that it is technically incorrect."

"Withdraw."

"Withdraw #26. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #27, offered by Representative Klemm."

"Representative Klemm is not in the chamber. 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Representative Mays." May 28, 1987

"Flinn, not Klemm. Flinn, not Klemm."

"Representative Mays, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I would like to move to table the Amendment or ask leave for the Body to let me handle it, whichever the..."

"Representative Leverenz."

"I now move to table Amendment #27."

"Representative Leverenz moves to table Amendment #27. Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #27 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #28, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Amendment would make a technical change and say, 'payable from the tourism promotion fund.' We failed to use the word 'fund' in the original Amendment. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #28 to House Bill 784. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #28 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #29, offered by Representative DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher." 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the General Assembly. If you are concerned about the economy of the state as I am, I know you are going to be receptive to this Amendment. This Amendment is for only $500,000. There is a potential that it could create from 1200 to 1800 jobs for my district. It could create 120 million dollars for construction purposes. There has been a tentative commitment of 100 million dollars from private sources to put into this particular project. This particular Amendment would not create a tax increase. It's a possibility that it could create an economic factor for the State of Illinois. For those particular purposes, hopefully, that you will give me green. Thank you."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #29 to House Bill 784, and on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to the Amendment for the fact that it is a half million in GRF over and above the prescribed guidelines that the Committee as a joint group devised. I would simply oppose the Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #29 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative DeJaegher, one minute to explain your vote."

"Representative Mays, you are getting to be quite repetitive. It sounds like a broken record over there. Everything is in opposition. We're talking about the economy of the state. A potential of 1200 to 1800 jobs. Where in the State of Illinois are we going to come up with job placement such as this. Please, vote green."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 22 voting 'aye', 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 86 voting 'no', and none voting 'present' and the Amendment fails. The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Flinn, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Madam Speaker, I move that all the remaining Amendments to this Bill be tabled."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, you have heard the Gentleman's Motion. His Motion is to table all further Amendments. On that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Madam Speaker, I reluctantly rise... I'm getting my signals straight yet... in opposition to the Gentleman's Motion. There are some... these are the ones that were filed already. The agreement was when we extended the deadlines that anything past, I believe, 45 would not receive a favorable consideration from the House floor. There are some that we must adopt and I would ask for your red vote on the Motion... or divide the question."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, I would suggest that we go to Roll Call votes where ever possible and that, perhaps, could speed things along. Hould the be acceptable, Representative... I mean voice votes. Hould that be acceptable? The Gentleman withdraws his Motion. The next Amendment is, therefore, Amendment #30, Representative Leverenz."

"Now you understand. Would like to withdraw the Amendment."

"Withdraw #30. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment 31, Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"The Amendment would provide $50,000 to provide DCCA money to induce corporation and associations to locate in the State of Illinois. I'd move for the adoption of the 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #31. On that question, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. We oppose the Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #31 be adopted?" All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos' have it and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 32, Steczo."

"Representative Steczo. Withdraw Amendment #32. #33, Representative Wolf. Withdraw #33. Any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #34, offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"Representative Younge."

"Ms. Speaker, would you table Amendment 34 and 35?"

"The Lady withdraws 34 and 35. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #36, Wyvetter Younge."

"Representative Younge. Withdraw #36. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #37, Wyvetter Younge."

"Withdraw #37. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment 38, Wyvetter Younge."

"Withdraw 38. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment 39, McGann."

"Representative McGann. Withdraw #39. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #40, offered by Representative McGann." 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Representative McGann."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. just want to take just a moment. This is not new money. This is just reappropriated of monies that were not used in the last budget. That's all it is for the development corporation in my district. I would ask you to vote 'aye'. This is not new money."

"The Gentleman has asked for the adoption of Amendment #40 to House Bill 784, and on that question, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He will."

"If we don't reappropriate it, it will lapse. Is that not correct?"

"These monies were not used and if we don't reappropriate them we are just going to kill the development corporation that's in my district that's trying to revitalize the community for all of the people of the district."

"Well, Madam Speaker, I reluctantly rise in opposition to the Gentleman's Amendment. As I understand it, what we don't reappropriate and what is not spent then goes into the GRF for spending for whatever purposes we would seek. So, on that grounds, I would reluctantly oppose the Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is a four year or at least a three year, going into the fourth year program. We want to be able to retain the money that we have now into the coming year. It has really nothing to do with the money for next year. I would encourage your 'aye vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment 740 be 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMOLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye, all those say "no". Do you wish a Roll Call, Representative McGann? May 23, 1987 opposed All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no". Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 47 voting 'aye", 61 voting 'no' and none voting 'present' and the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment 41, offered by Representative McGann."

"Representative McGann. Withdraw #41. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment 32, offered by Hyvetter Younge."

"Amendment 42. Representative Younge. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #43, offered by Representative Rice."

"Representative Rice. Do you wish to go with this Amendment. It's an Amendment for a grant to the Henry Rucher Foundation. Withdraw #43. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #44, offered by Wyvetter Younge."

"Withdraw 440. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #45, offered by Hyvetter Younge."

"Withdraw the Amendments. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment 46, offered by Representative Mays."

"Representative Mays."

"Madam Speaker, Amendment #46 is the technically correct version of Amendment #15, but inasmuch as it has not been distributed, we will not offer it at this time. We will withdraw the Amendment, but we ought to really take out those things that we did add on in Committee." 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Withdraw #46. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 784, a Bill for an Act making appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. We have now got a pretty clean DCCA budget. Amendment #15 would have stripped most of the Committee add ons and it was my impression at the time that I withdrew Amendment #46 that it had not yet been distributed. I would simply ask the Members to go ahead and vote for this Bill, even though it still has some specific add ons for three or four..., labor management committee and so on in it and I would hope that we could go ahead and pass this out. I'm sure the Senate will take care of those particular items anyway when it hits the Senate floor."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 784, and on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 784 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. The Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Brunsvold, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am voting 'no' because of the John Deere situation. They need the training money and I will continue to vote 'no' on the DCCA Bill until I am assured by Department of Commerce and Community Affairs that Deere and Company will get their training money." 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 99 voting 'aye... 100 voting 'aye'. 1 voting 'no' and 10 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 789, Representative Mays. Clerk, read the Bill."

Clerk O'Brien "House Bill 789, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Corrections. It's been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2 and 3 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

Clerk O'Brien "No Motions filed with respect to the Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4 is being offered by Representative Saltsman."

"Representative Saltsman."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, I encourage the passage of this Amendment. It's $20,000 for a van-type bus to take prisoners from Peoria County Jail, which is a central location, which has extreme distance between there and the two..."

"Excuse me. Representative Leverenz, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Inquiry of the Chair, I guess. I believe that to make things technically correct with 4, 5 and 6, we must table Amendment #3."

"I agree. The... Representative Leverenz, therefore, makes a Motion to table Amendment #3. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it and Amendment #3 is tabled. Now, 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Representative Saltsman, on Amendment #4."

May 28, 1987 "Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. With the Peoria County Jail a new facility and a central embarking place for prisoners that have to be transferred to Joliet and to southern Illinois at great distances, this is a money saving matter for the Department of Corrections."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4 to House Bill 789, and on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Inquiry of the Chair. Is the Amendment technically correct? Our analysis would Indicate that it might be misdrafted and that it does not specify who will receive the grant to the Peoria County Sheriff's Department."

"The Amendment is in order, Representative Mays. Any further discussion?"

"Then, on the Amendment, Madam Speaker."

"Proceed."

"I simply ask for opposition to the Amendment. It's $20,000 and I imagine it's going to be for a special vehicle for prisoner transportation. Wouldn't it be great to have something like that in all 102 counties? I don't think it's a good precedent to get in to, especially with time stuff. I would probably oppose it even if we had the money to put there."

"The Gentleman from Fulton, Representative Homer."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise to support the Amendment. In fact, this Amendment if it passes, is going to save the State of Illinois a considerable amount of money. The reason for that is very simple. Under the current method, each county sheriff is responsible for transporting his prisoners to the Department of 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 Corrections. That means that prisoners from Tazewell County are taken by the Tazewell County Sheriff to Pontiac, and so forth for all of those sheriffs in Central Illinois. They then are reimbursed by the State of Illinois for their mileage in taking inmates to and from Pontiac. Wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense for the State to authorize this ... for us to approve this Amendment to allow for the purchase of a van which could be used to pool the resources of those counties so that trips could be made back and forth to Pontiac with a number of inmates, thereby reducing the amount of reimbursement that the various counties are entitled to. It sounds like a good Amendment. It would save money. It's more efficient. It's the kind of thing we ought to be doing in these austere times to protect the taxpayers against unwarranted tax increases. I would urge you to support this Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield for a question, please?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Saltsman, approximately how many prisoners a year are transported to Joliet from Peoria?"

"Well, Representative Piel, we met with the Department of Corrections last summer and there was about 15 county sheriffs from that area that were there in support of this program because if they've got individual prisoners that they're transporting now, they get mileage for that. They get mileage for each individual prisoner and Joliet is the closest place they can go because when you process a prisoner, they have to go to Joliet, which is 150 miles from Peoria. So, therefore, all these smaller counties who are transporting one prisoner every week or every two weeks and getting mileage for the sheriff's individual car is ... 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 It would be a great savings if they all embarked from one central location. This van would definitely pay for itself and it would be like a bus service and we would be alleviating the mileage. It would go up to maybe as many as 20 counties in that area, most of the smaller ones that were using money which is not needed. It's hard to say how many ..."

"Okay, that's, that's all. You know, after 5 minutes I was just wondering you know, what the answer was."

"They're averaging about, just from Peoria, about 12 a week now. With just Tazewell and Woodford."

"To the Bill, Madam Speaker. To the Amendment, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is just the tip of the iceberg. He mentioned we're talking about 12 from Peoria a week. So, we're talking about the amount of this Amendment just for this County for 12 prisoners a week. I think it's a situation to where the State right now is reimbursing these counties before their travel and it obviously does not equal out to $20,000 a year or $20,000 every two or three years. We're talking about throwing a $20,000 for something that is very, very I ... warranted I understand by the Gentleman, but, you know, once we give it to Peoria, then the next week we're sitting here looking at another county and another county. Before you'd know it, every one of 102 counties are going to be coming in here asking for a new bus for their county jail. I think it's something to where at the present time, we're just going to have to sit here and pull the belt buckle in and say no we can't do it at the present time. And I ask for a 'no' vote. And I would ask for a Roll Call too, Madam Speaker."

"The Gentleman from Warren, Representative Hultgren. Representative Hultgren. Gentlemen, would you 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 53rd Legislative Day turn Representative Hultgren's switch on, please."

"Thank you. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of the Amendment. I believe as we've heard pointed out many times on the Floor today, our choice this year in the General Assembly is between holding the line and raising taxes. And I'm certainly not an advocate of the latter choice. However, as the previous speakers, the distinguished Representatives from Peoria and from Fulton County have pointed out, this is an opportunity to save money in the long run for the State of Illinois. So, I urge an 'aye' vote on the Amendment."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Logic and common sense doesn't generally rule on the House Floor but for occasions. This is a well thought out Amendment. The Department of Corrections says it saves money. I would ask for your voice 'aye' vote very strongly to adopt the Amendment."

"A Roll Call vote has already been requested, Representative Leverenz. So, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 55 voting 'aye', 46 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5 is being offered by Representative Mays."

"Representative Mays withdraws Amendment #5. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6 is being offered by Representative Mays." 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you, very much, Madam Speaker. May 28, 1937 What Amendment #6 does I think, is technically correct. He tried it twice before and it was technically incorrect. We wanted to try to shift the funds as best we could within the Department to those areas that are most volatile, the maximum security institutions. The Director had said if we're going to cut funds, the areas that we should most look to restore if we could, or transfer into, would be in the maximum areas and that's what this Amendment does. I believe it's an agreed Amendment and I would move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 789. And on that question, the Lady from Cook, Representative Davis. Do you seek recognition? Representative Davis, you must speak into the microphone."

"Madam Speaker, I would like to change my vote to "yes"."

"On what?"

"On the Amendment."

"Okay. We're just ready to vote on the Amendment now. The question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye'. Mr. Clerk, have you taken the record on the previous Amendment? The record was taken. Now we are voting on Amendment #6. The question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Okay. Representative Davis would like the record to reflect that on Amendment #4, she wished to have been recorded as voting 'aye'. Is that correct, Representative Davis? Very good. Are there any further 115  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 789, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hays."

"Thank you, very much, Madam Speaker. I simply move for passage of House Bill 789, the OCE for the Department of Corrections."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 789 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 106 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 791, Representative Mays. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 791, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Agriculture. It has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2, 3 and 4 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions filed?"

"There are two Motions. The first Motion is a Motion to table Amendment #2, offered by Representative Brunsvold."

"Representative Brunsvold. Representative Brunsvold. Representative Leverenz?"

"I now make that Motion."

"Representative Leverenz moves to table Amendment #2 to House Bill 791. And on that question, is 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, *Shall Amendment #2 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #2 is tabled. Are there any further Amendments or Motions?"

"Further Motion to table Amendment #4 to House Bill 791, offered by Representative Rea."

"Representative Rea moves to table Amendment #4 to House Bill 791. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6 is being offered by Representative Brunsvold."

"Representative 3runsvold withdraws #6. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #7 is being offered by Representative Brunsvold."

"Representative Brunsvold. Withdraw #7. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #8 is being offered by Representative Rea."

"Representative Rea on Amendment #8."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #4, there was a technical problem with it, and so Amendment #8 replaces it. I would move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #8 to House Bill 791. And on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I simply rise in opposition to Amendment #8. It is $275,000 in GRF to 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 construct a grandstand at the Williamson County Fairgrounds. It may be needed, but I don't think this is the time to do it."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Amendment replaces the one we just tabled, Amendment #4, which was technically incorrect. The Gentleman on the other side opposed that Amendment in Committee, but that doesn't make too much difference. We would like this Amendment put back on which is technically correct. I encourage your 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #8 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, they 'nos' have it. And the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #9, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz? Withdraws Amendment #9. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Representatives Mays and Goforth."

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Floor Amendment #10 would restore 1 1/2 million dollars in Ag Premium Funds for grants to Soil and Water Conservation Districts statewide. While in this Amendment particularly we do not come up with the funds for the Ag Premium Fund to affect this shift, I think in Floor Amendment #11 we do start to take down some other line items that would affect a portion of this shift. And I would move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Amendment #10 to House Bill 791. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"All of a sudden this Amendment doesn't sound too good. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"I would love to yield."

"Not to me, big boy. Would the ..."

"Did we get the script mixed up or something?"

"I think we did."

"Okay."

"What does this Amendment do now?"

"This would add 1 1/2 million in Ag Premium Funds for the grants to the Soil and Water Conservation Districts throughout the State. Those were cut in Committee Amendment #1, if you will recall."

"So that I would suggest that if this Amendment failed, this Bill would be then in the same posture as the Department of Mental Health which would help us restore Amendment #8."

"I think I'm hearing a message. I'd like to pull this Bill out of the record for just a second if we can get back to it at an appropriate time."

"The Gentleman ..."

"Or we could take a vote on Soil and Water Conservation Districts. Whichever he wants. But I'll be glad to pull this out if there has been a miscommunication, I think we better get it together. Because this is what we are doing all day. Let's pull it out of the record. Let's move on to the next ..."

"We can ... We can go with the Amendment. Go ahead. Run."

"What is your pleasure, Representative Mays?"

"Well, I always prefer to work by agreement rather than disagreement. But if there was a miscommunication with the 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 35th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Chairman, I apologize. At this point though, if his encouragement is to go ahead and move with the Amendment, I will do so.t

"Representative Mays moves for the adoption of Amendment 10. And still on that question, the Gentleman from Logan, Representative Olson. Representative

"To the Amendment. Last Fiscal Year, Fiscal Year '87, this particular item was $3,050,000. It has been cut in this appropriation to about half. This Amendment basically is reinstating that cut. And I want to tell you, as a Representative of a farm community and as an active farmer, how important this is. In past General Assemblies like the 84th, there was farm legislation came out of here which addressed the needs of those farmers in financial straights. There was stress counseling, access to attorneys, low interest rate loans and such. In this Assembly we're soon going to be addressing the Harvest to Heartland issues. And these are good issues. And I cosigned on some of those even though they come from the other side of the aisle. But let me tell you, this is the most important piece of Ag legislation that you will address this Session and it's more important than any last Session. This addresses those farmers who are still financially stable. They're making a little money yet. The Federal Farm Program is the only reason we're making money out there on the farms. My Federal Farm payment is greater than my net income. In other words, I would be broke without the Federal Farm Program."

"Representative Olson? I don't like to interrupt you, but I think we have an agreement on this Amendment at this time. So the question is, 'Shall Amendment $10 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" May 28, 1987

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representatives Mays and Ropp."

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. As I mentioned on Floor Amendment #10, we were seeking to find some funds to fund these Ag Premium Transfers into Soil and Water Conservation Districts and part of the money that we have found will come in Amendment #11 and another part would come in Amendment #12, where we take down the line items for the Ag Premium Funds for State Fair Entertainment. And so I would move the adoption of Amendment #11."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #11 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #12 is being offered by Representative Ropp."

"Representative Ropp? Are you withdrawing #12?"

"Withdraw."

"Withdraw #12. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13 is being offered by Representative Ropp."

"Representative Ropp."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. This is the continuation portion of what Representative Mays mentioned about reducing the entertainment line for the fairs. And it also adds $100,000 for the certification of Exported Grain Program, $2,500 for the National Junior Hereford Show which will be in the State probably one time 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day in the next 50 years."

May 28, 1987 "The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #13 to House Bill 791. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #13 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos' have it. And the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Homer."

"Representative Homer, on Amendment #14. Withdraw #14. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment £15, offered by Representative Saltsman."

"Representative Saltsman?"

"Yes. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I finally got this program into the right budget. It's the Department of Agriculture where Mr. Hedges has told me to place it to help the Governor out a little bit and I want to kind of clean up the Governor's act here and get this $2,000,000 for this research program that he commended all through his election. I know if he was in Springfield right now, he'd be down here lobbying the Floor for this Bill. So I ask for your favorable vote."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #15 to House Bill 791. And on that question, the Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Richmond."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I strongly endorse support for this Amendment. It's part of the Harvest to Heartland Package which we have all embraced in in substantive legislation. And certainly we've got to back it up with a few dollars. And I would ask that you vote 'aye' on this Amendment." 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

May 28, 1987 "The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Question of the Chair. My staff informs me that there appears to be a technical problem with this Amendment in Sections 8(i) and 8(k) on page 15."

"Restate the problem, Representative Mays."

"Okay. In sections 8(i) and 8(k) on page 15, there appears to be a technical problem. These two sections reappropriate funds for entertainment at the '87 DuQuoin State Fair. The appropriations and the requested reappropriations are currently funded by GRF. The Amendment will change the funding for reappropriations to Ag Premium Fund and I don't know how you can reappropriate dollars that were not appropriated by that fund in the first place."

"Representative Mays. The Chair determines that the Amendment is in Order. Do you wish to speak to the Amendment?"

"Let me just clarify the ruling. If we appropriate this year from General Revenue Fund dollars and we don't expend all of those dollars, we come through with the reappropriation next year for the balance. Can that reappropriation then come from a different fund than was originally appropriated?"

"Representative Saltsman, for what reason do you rise?"

"Madam Speaker, for a point of personal privilege to state that I would have this, that if there is a technical Amendment, I'll have it straightened out in the Senate."

"Representative Mays, I understand that this has been done in the past. That is the ruling of the Chair following the precedent already set."

"Okay. Thank you very much for the ruling. I would like some follow up with the Parliamentarian as to those times 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 when it has been because I've only been around seven years and I know maybe it has happened before I got involved in appropriations. But it seems a little odd. And I would like some further documentation. I will speak to the Amendment if you would like."

"Proceed."

"Would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He will."

"Representative Saltsman. I see that this Amendment increases the Ag Premium Fund by $12,321,000 and it reduces GRF by $12,321,000 and then it adds back $500,000 in Ag Premium monies and $12,391,000 in GRF. Now I know that your Amendment which was defeated overwhelmingly on the Floor for $2,000,000 in the DCCA budget is a part of this. I think you explained that quite well to the Members of the Floor ... Members of the House on the Floor on that previous ... in your previous explanation. But that would still leave about $10,391,300 for some other purpose. And I would like for you tell me what those purposes are, because by switching $12,000,000 to Ag Premium, you're going to be unfunding quite a few other programs the Department currently has ongoing. So would you please tell me what the other ... other uses of those dollars will be?"

"Representative Saltsman, in answer to the question."

"Yes, Representative Mays. This is a $12,321,000 transfer and a $500,000 probe for the Farm Debt Mediation Program out of 8 premium funds and $70,000 for corporate reporting of Farmland Ownership. This was mandated previously."

"So that gives us ... you said $500,000 for Farm Debt Mediation, Farmland Ownership Registration, that's $170,000. Is this ag premium monies?" 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"$70,000, not $100,000, Representative. $170,000." May 28, 1987 $70,000 not

"Okay. And your Ag Research Center in Peoria is how much? $2 million?"

"$2 million."

"Okay. And, so that's about 2 1/2, $2.6 million. Aren't you indeed reprioritizing or reshuffling about $12 million in your Amendment? What's the balance?"

"$12,321,000 we're reshuffling."

"Right. Right. What's the other things that we're appropriating money for if this Amendment is adopted?"

"$10 million dollars to Seed Capital Funds. Venture to Seed Capital Funds."

"Did you say $10 million dollars for a Seed Capital Fund?"

"Right."

"Okay. Do you realize that ... Or can you answer how many dollars do we project the Ag Premium Fund to have for this next Fiscal Year?"

"It's really hard to project. It will probably take some kind of a supplemental like we do every year anyhow. But we can't project it now because we don't know what the OTB .... are going to bring in."

"Madam Speaker? Can we have some Order? I can't hear Representative Saltsman's response. And this is important because what I'm worried about us doing and I'll just tell you straight forward. What I'm worried about us doing is putting about $35 million dollars worth of responsibility on the Ag Premium Fund, when we only have $26 million dollars in our farthest wildest imagination of Ag Premium Fund dollars to fund these things that you're shifting over. Things like soil and water and so on. How much is the total that you're shifting over? How much do you anticipate Ag Premium Fund will generate this year with the 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day $5,000,000 transfer from GRF?"

May 28, 1987 "Well, we don't know what OT3 is going to bring in yet. But I assure you, Peoria is going to bring in its share and I'm pretty sure that we're bringing in from Peoria to support my part of the program. Really right now I can't give you an actual amount of money, but it will be high if we can get the OTB parlors and all the racing back in track where it belongs. But I think there's enough there and if not, that's what we're here for."

"Well, let me just for the benefit of the Members downstate that have been involved in the Harvest to Heartland, I'll speak to this Amendment. I don't know whether $10,000,000 spent on a Seed Capital Project is worthwhile or not, but I do know that shifting, you know, shifting an additional $12 million over to the Ag Premium Fund, bringing its total responsibilities up to about $35 to $37 million dollars as a result and having only $26,000,000 available ..."

"Bring your remarks to a close, please. Your 5 minutes are up."

"I understand that. And having only $26 million dollars in the fund even after a $5 million GRF transfer to that fund this year will do one of two things. Politically, you may get by saying we funded Soil and Water Conservation Districts, we funded Meat and Poultry Inspections, we funded Pseudorabies, we funded all those neat things. But, I'll tell you, you're not ... all you're doing is shifting a funding responsibility for a very valuable program to a funding source that is absolutely questionable and you're inserting in its place, a new program for Seed Capital that may be valuable, but I sure as heck don't know how valuable it is. And as a result, I would oppose the Gentleman's Amendment in the strongest possible terms."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Flinn."

"Madam Speaker. Enough is enough. I move the previous question."

"The Gentleman has moved the previous question. The question is, 'Shall the main question be put?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Representative Saltsman to close."

"Yes. Madam Speaker, we've got 92 racing dates at Arlington this year. And last year we only had a 10 day, a short race period there with the OTB Parlors and everything coming upon. I think the Governor will spend this money responsibly and if we can't have all of our $2 million in so much at one time, that's for him to piecemeal to an area that we think is vital. So, I'm going to come back here in November, December and come with supplementals or some type of a program to fund this great agency to do the job that they should be doing. So, I really recommend a 'yes' vote for the betterment of the State of Illinois."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #15 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 59 voting 'aye', 60 voting 'aye', 45 voting 'no', and 3 voting 'present'. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #17, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Could we do 16 first?"

"Number 16, Mr. Clerk."

"Floor Amendment #16, offered by Representative Leverenz." 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Thank you." May 28, 1987

"Representative Leverenz."

"This is one we've done before in Amendment #15. We wiped it out so we have to replace it. It deletes the $458,100 for the DuQuoin Fair and $300,000 from Ag Premium and puts the General Revenue Fund money into the Meat and Poultry inspection, and the Ag Premium goes into the Marketing Division of the Department of Agriculture. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #16 to House Bill 791. And on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I rise in support of the Amendment but we should note that the money in the Ag Premium Fund to support this while it was there with Amendment #10 is not there at this point. So this will be a discussion that will have to take place at a later date."

"The Lady from Sangamon, Representative Hasara."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I did push my button. I pushed 'yes' and it did not register."

"On the last?"

"On Amendment #15."

"Amendment #15 let the record reflect that Representative Hasara wished to vote 'aye'. On Amandment #16, the question is 'Shall Amendment #16 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #17, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Amendment #17 because of 15 must go back on so that we help Representative Mays and 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Goforth on May 28, 1987 $1,500,000 for grants to Soil and Water Conservation Districts. I now move for the adoption of Amendment #17."

"The question is, Shall Amendment #17 be adopted? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #18, offered by Representative Hicks."

"Representative Hicks."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #18 makes an appropriation of $2,500 to the Department of Agriculture for a grant to the National Junior Hereford Show. I would ask for its approval."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #18 to House Bill 791. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #18 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative ... Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 791, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary contingent expenses of the Department of Agriculture. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Thank you for your patience during this afternoon. And while this Bill is not in the kind of shape that I personally would like to see it in at this point, I 129  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 23, 1987 think we have made some steps forward. We will have to address the Ag Premium Fund crisis as a result of the Amendment #15 that was adopted when we either get into the Senate or to a Conference Committee. But at this point, I would like the discussions to go on and I would move for its passage."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 791 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 109 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 792, Representative Tate. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 792, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Public Health. It's been read a second time previously. Amendments #2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"A Motion to table Amendment ... House ... Table Amendment #5 to House Bill 792 is offered by Representative Bowman."

"What was the Motion, Mr. Clerk? The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #5. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments or Motions?"

"No further Motions. Floor Amendment #10 is being offered by Representative Tate." 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Representative Tate."

"Madam Speaker, I think you have to table #9 first."

"Representative Tate moves to table Amendment #9. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #9 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #9 is tabled. Are there any further Motions or Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #10, offered by Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a technical Amendment to accommodate the Department and adjust the personal services and related line items to correct reductions made in Amendment #2. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #10 to House Bill 792. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #10 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #11 eliminates add ons that were put on in Committee. It eliminates $1,000,000 out of the General Revenue Fund in add ons for the Alzheimer's Disease Grants. It eliminates $300,000 out of General Revenue Fund for add ons for Rheumatic Disease Treatment Act. It also restores 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 AIDS funding to the 1987 level set by Amendment #2 by eliminating $332,000 for AIDS. The total GRF reduction is $1.6 million. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #11. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in opposition to the Amendment. I want to point out to the Membership that after the Appropriations II Committee finished its work, the budget's end total came out of the Committee below the Governor's tax increase level. And so what the Gentleman is really doing here is reducing the budgets even further. It's true that some of these Amendments added, but it's also true that we've took money, and cut money elsewhere. So, I believe that there is definitely support on this Floor for Alzheimer's Disease. This is a commitment we made last year, actually 2 years ago. Rheumatic diseases. These are commitments that have been made in the past. The AIDS money, by the way, in addition to changing the total by a small amount also reallocates it. And so if this Amendment were adopted, all of the money would go into something that is loosely called 'public awareness' but as we all know public awareness campaigns can sometimes get out of hand. In fact the little jingle was developed that had to be banned and couldn't be performed in public dealing with the use of contraceptive devices. So I think that all in all the Amendment is a very bad Amendment and it should be defeated."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Tate to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. What the previous speaker didn't mention is that in one of his Amendments what he did 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 with the line item on the AIDS, was he reduced the Department AIDS Educational Service Line to $100. This is the line that the Department uses to provide funding to the local health departments in each and every one of our own districts SO that they can provide such services as education and counseling to persons with AIDS and the groups known to be at a great risk at contracting AIDS. However, what they have done in subsequent Amendments, is they've specifically designated for example, $300,000 out of General Revenue Fund for AIDS Services to the Hispanic Communities. Now what I would suggest to you, I think we're probably better off providing money for AIDS Educational Information to our local health departments, than we are for any specific express purpose as done in some of the previous Amendments. He also in his Amendment provided $300,000 or basically $300,000 to expand the existing AIDS Residential and Home Health Care Programs. There are no such existing programs within Public Health. It's a brand new program. Public Health only has licensed these programs. It doesn't administer those programs. The Department on Aging and the Department of Rehabilitation Services administer those programs. I urge and I move for the adoption of this Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #11 be adopted?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 37 voting 'aye', 69 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. And the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #12, offered by Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate." 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Okay. Thank you. Madam Speaker. May 29, 1987 Amendment #12 eliminates $1.8 of GRF add ons. And I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #12 to House Bill 792. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Bowman."

"Yes, Madam Speaker. I rise in opposition to this Amendment too. The basis for the opposition is basically the same as the basis for the opposition on the last Amendment. That the programs involved here may have been add ons in the Committee but again, the Committee reported out the Bills at a gross amount below the Governor's tax increase level. The programs that this Amendment deals with are programs that we have made commitments to in the past. Rape Victims Assistance, Rape Prevention Activities and again services for Alzheimer's victims. I mean these are programs that we have made commitments to in the past. We cannot turn our backs on them now. I urge a 'no' vote."

"The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Well I don't ... Madam Speaker, I don't think any more has to be said. With the last Amendment, the Sponsor of the Amendment very acidulously avoided that he was reducing so much funds for Alzheimer's Disease. I don't think there's any way he could avoid the fact that by this Amendment we would be reducing funds for Rape victims. He would be reducing funds for the Illinois Cancer Council and for services to Alzheimer's victims. I don't know how anybody could vote for this Amendment."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Tate to close."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would just like to add one thing to the previous speaker's remarks. What this Amendment does only on the 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Alzheimer's program, is it eliminates $40,000 for the Quad Cities areas. I would suggest to you that there is probably every Member in this House is concerned about Alzheimer's Disease. I'm not sure why we specify that one specific legislative district receives $40,000 when my district, or any other district from Representatives here, can't have the same type of consideration. I say if it's good enough for that program, it should be good enough for our program in our own districts and I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #12 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'nos have it. And the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Representative Phelps? Withdraw #13. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative Currie."

"Representative Curran?"

"Currie."

"Representative Currie? Do you wish? Withdraw #14. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #15, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Representative Phelps? Withdraw #15. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #16, offered by Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate withdraws Amendment #16. Any further Amendments?" 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day

"Floor Amendment #17, offered May 28, 1987 by Representative Tate."

"Representative Tate?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment $17 transfers $927,000 from GRF from the policy and planning operations line items, to the health facilities planning operations. There is no change in GRF funding. It's strictly an internal transfer within the Department. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #17 to House Bill 792. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, *Shall Amendment #17 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no". In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 792, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary contingent expenses of the Department of Public Health. Third Reading of the Sill."

"Representative Tate."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 792 is the Department of Public Health's budget. It is currently at close ... very, very close to FY 87 levels and I move for its approval."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 792 be be passed?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 101 voting, 'aye', none voting 'no', and 6 voting 'present'. This Bill having 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 799, Representative Hays. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 799, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. It's been read a second time previously. Amendments #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 were adopted in Committee."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are trying to adjourn tonight by 7:00. There are several Amendments filed to this Bill. We will try to take them and all of the other Bills as quickly as possible. Are there any Motions or Amendments filed on this Bill, Mr. Clerk?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #3 to House Bill 799, offered by Representative McPike."

"Representative McPike and Representative Giorgi move to table Amendment #3. Representative Giorgi."

"Madam Speaker, I move to table Amendment #3."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #3 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Amendment #3 is tabled. Any further Motions or Amendments? Any further Amendments?"

"A Motion to table Amendment #6 to House Bill 799, offered by Representative McGann."

"Representative McGann?"

"Madam Speaker, please table Amendment #6."

"The Gentleman moves to table Amendment #6. Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #6 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is tabled. Any further Motions or Amendments?"

"Motion to table Amendment #7 to House Bill 799, 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 offered by Representative McPike."

"Representative Giorgi asks to table Amendment #7. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #7 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is tabled. Any further Amendments or Motions?"

"Motion to table Amendment #9 is offered by Representative Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi."

"I move to table Amendment #9."

"Representative Giorgi moves to table Amendment #9. Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #9 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #9 is tabled. Any further Amendments or Motions?"

"Floor Amendment #11, offered by Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli? Withdraw Amendment #11. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #12, offered by Representative Curran."

"Withdraw #12. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #13, offered by Representative Mays."

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. To the point, I would simply request a Roll Call to affirm or not affirm the Committee action on the remaining Amendments that were added. And that is Amendments #1, 2, 4, 5, 6 and so on. Amendment #13 in effect would table the Committee add ons that the ...... Amendments that were added to this in 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Committee."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #13. On that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"I have an inquiry to the Chair. This refers to Amendments 3, 6, 7 and 9 which we have tabled. Therefore, the Amendment I would hope, be ruled incorrect and withdraw."

"Your point is well taken, Representative Leverenz. Your Amendment is technically incorrect, Representative Mays. What is your pleasure?"

"I'll withdraw the Amendment."

"Withdraw #13. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #14, offered by Representative DeJaegher."

"Representative DeJaegher? The Gentleman is not on the Floor. Representative Mays would you like to table this? Excuse me, Representative DeJaegher, you have an Amendment #14 for a Mental Health Facility? Do you wish to pursue that Amendment? Withdraw #14. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #15, offered by Representative Weaver."

"Representative Weaver. Representative Weaver?"

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. In the interest of helping the State of Illinois reach a balanced budget without a tax increase, I withdraw Amendment #15."

"Withdraw #15. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #16, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Representative Phelps? Representative Phelps? Withdraw #16. Any further Amendments?" 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Floor Amendment #17, offered by Representative Wolf."

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #17. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #18, offered by Representative Jones."

"Withdraw #18. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 799, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I would simply move the passage of House Bill 799, the Capital Development Board project's Bill."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption ... the passage of House Bill 799. And on that question, is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 799 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Winnebago, Representative Giorgi. One minute to explain your vote."

"Madam Speaker, before you take the vote, I would like to announce for the benefit of the Press Correspondence that the 16th Annual Grid Iron Dinner will take place next Wednesday night at the Hilton Hotel."

"Thank you. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 876, Representative Novak. Representative Novak? Out 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 of the Record. House Bill 963, Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 963, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. It has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Motions?"

"No Motions or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the 3ill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 963, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a substantive Bill to 968 dealing with the homeless which we passed out last week. And I would merely ask for the passage of House Bill 963."

"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 963. And on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much. I simply rise in opposition to the Amendment. It's $3,000,000 that the Department ... that we don't have and as a result I would move we ... I'm sorry I've got to get my new record going. I would oppose the Bill. It's $3,000,000 that we don't have."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 963 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? This Bill requires 60 votes for passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Only vote your own switches. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 61 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no' 141  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1202, Representative Goforth. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1202, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Police Merit Board. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions or Amendments?"

"There are no Motions filed. No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 1202, a bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Police Merit Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Goforth."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill is ... just takes the funding from the State Police and gives it to the Merit Board. It's in connection with the 1206 that just passed out 111-1 for me last week. Thank you."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 1202. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1202 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 107 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1275, Representative Leverenz. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1275, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Attorney General. It's been read a second time previously. Amendments #1 and #2 were adopted 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 in Committee."

"Are there any Motions or Amendments?"

"No Motions filed. Floor Amendment #3 is being offered by Representative Mays."

"Representative Mays. Withdraw #3. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1275, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Attorney General. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"This is the budget for the OCE for the Attorney General. It's a $25,690,000. I would ask for your 'aye' vote to pass the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1275 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 107 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1276, Representative Leverenz. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1276, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Attorney General. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz, on Amendment #1."

"The Amendment would appropriate $100,000 from the 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day Illinois Gaming Law Enforcement Fund to the Office of Attorney General. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 1276. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. On this Amendment, would the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He will."

"How much does this appropriate?"

"$100,000."

"Our staff would indicate that the Attorney General's share on that line would amount to no more than $20,000. It ... the way it was last year."

"Each one ... Right, each one gets a third of what's there."

"Okay."

"This would let him go up to $100,000 if it was there."

"Okay. It's not GRF. I don't ... I can't imagine the fund coming any where close to $100,000, but support the Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #1 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 1276, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Attorney General. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Leverenz."

"The Bill now has $2,200,000 in it totally to the 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Attorney General. I would ask for your 'aye' vote to pass the Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1276 be passed?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 105 voting 'aye', 3 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1409, Representative Martinez. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1409, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions or Amendments?"

"No Motions filed. Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Martinez."

"Representative Martinez, on Amendment #2."

"Yes, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 deletes a section of #1 of the underlying Bill. Section 1 appropriated $5 million to Capital Development Board for construction of the Multi-Sports Complex in Chicago. Amendment #2 deletes this section."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 1409. And on that question, is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Hould the Gentleman yield for a question?"

"He will."

"The Bill as introduced appropriated, how much?"

"Originally it was $3 million but an Amendment was put on to it which added $5 million." 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"So, the Bill as amended, appropriated $5 million for a Multi-Sports Facility, right? And this Amendment will delete that $5 million?"

"Right."

"Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?* All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Read the Bill on Third, Mr. Clerk."

"House 3111 1409, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Martinez."

"Yes. This Bill appropriates $3 million dollars from the GRF to the Capital Development Board for a grant to build an auditorium for Benito Juarez High School, which hasn't had one since it was built."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 1409. And on that question, the Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays."

"Thank you again, Madam Speaker. I simply rise in opposition to the Bill. It's $3 million dollars. It is Capital Development funds, but we just passed a Capital Development Fund Board budget that was pretty darn clean and I think at some point we may want to consider this. But at this point, I don't believe this is the proper time or place."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1409 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Only 146  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 vote your own switches. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question ..."

"May I postpone this Bill, please?"

"Surely. On this Bill there are 51 voting 'aye', 53 voting 'no' and 3 voting 'present'. And the Gentleman asks that the Bill be put on the Order of Postponed Consideration where it will be placed. House Bill 1774, Representative Rea. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1774, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions or Amendments?"

"There are no Motions filed. No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1774, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Capital Development Board. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Rea."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. This is a Bill that serves as a cash incentive to induce the private sector to develop a lodge at the Wayne Fitzgerald State Park. This is along the lines that the Department of Conservation is using now to make the money go much further. This will be the hub of recreation tourism for many, many counties in that section of the State and will certainly be very valuable in promoting recreation and tourism, which will assist us greatly in economic development. And I would move for its passage."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 1774. And on that question, the Gentleman from 147  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 Adams, Representative Mays."

"I simply rise in opposition to this Bill. It's $500,000 to the Department and we don't have the money at this time."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1774 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Franklin, Representative Rea. One minute to explain your vote."

"This is a very important piece of legislation in terms of recreation and tourism. And especially for downstate and the southern part of the state. This will bring several people into the area. He are trying to develop a comprehensive recreation and development center there. Wayne Fitzgerald State Park is one ... is becoming one of the most comprehensive. It will serve many counties in that area. It will serve as a hub to a very diversified comprehensive type of recreation and development. And I ask for your support on this Bill. I'd like ... I'd ask that you put some more green votes up there because it will mean much also to the State. The Department of Conservation is ..."

"Bring your remarks to a close, Sir. Excuse me. would the person or persons who are using the horn, please not do that. Proceed, Representative Rea, and bring your remarks to a close."

"This will help all of the State and actually the Department of Conservation has already started developing plans to really make this one that will assist the whole State. And it will be nice center that all of you can be proud of and certainly will help the economics of course in that area, which is a high percentage of unemployment. We need it very desperately. So, I ask that you .. that we ..." 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"That you put some green votes up there. Let's put 60 votes on and send it over to the Senate."

"The Gentleman from Jackson, Representative Richmond. One minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise to strongly urge some more green votes on this fine Bill because it is important to Southern Illinois and to Illinois in general. We are lagging way behind a lot of our neighboring States with facilities that would attract people to our area and spend their dollars and certainly this is in that direction. And I would like very much to see some of my colleagues join with us and help pass this Bill."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 51 voting 'aye', 57 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. Representative... Representative Martinez wishes to change his vote from 'no' to 'aye'. On this question there are ... 52 voting 'aye', 56 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. Representative Rea?"

"Would you poll the Absentees, please?"

"Poll the Absentees, Mr. Clerk."

"A poll of those Members not voting. Representative Huff and McPike are not voting."

"Okay. Mr. ... Representative Rea? What is your pleasure?"

"Place it on Postponed Consideration, please."

"The Bill will be placed on the Order of Postponed Consideration. House Bill 1897, Representative Leverenz. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1897, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 23, 1987 the Office of State Treasurer. It's been read second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions or Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Wennlund."

"Representative Wennlund."

"Madam Speaker, please withdraw the Amendment."

"Withdraw the Amendment. Any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 1897, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Office of State Treasurer. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Matijevich, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Inquiry of the Chair. Is there a dash between that Mr. Speaker and Leverenz? Or is that Mr. Speaker Leverenz?"

"Representative Leverenz, you can answer that question in your presentation of the Bill."

"The answer is yes. On House Bill 1897 reduced to FY '87 level, I would ask for your 'aye' vote. The appropriation is for $522,793,600."

"The question is, Shall House Bill 1897 pass?" All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 108 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2075, Representative Ropp. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"House Bill 2075, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Office of State Comptroller. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"There are none."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill on Third."

"House Bill 2075, a Bill for an Act making appropriations to the Office of State Comptroller. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ropp."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill transfers $5,000,000 from the General Revenue Fund into the Ag Premium Fund so that we can fund all of the appropriations that we have amended on the Bills this afternoon. I would welcome your support."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 2075. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2075 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 106 voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills, Third Reading, Appropriations Matters Only, appears House Bill 773, Representative Mays. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 773, a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Commerce Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mays."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 of the House. This is the last Bill I believe we have in the Appropriations agenda. So, thanks for your patience and perseverance through the afternoon. This Bill is for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Illinois Commerce Commission. It appropriates as amended, $17,723,000. I believe that an Amendment we put on in Committee took care of some of the problems that we had with the Transportation Division that it developed over the past year and I would move its passage."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 773. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich."

"Madam Speaker, mine is only a protest vote on the Illinois Commerce Commission, the way they have been operating with the so-called rate freeze which isn't a rate freeze, it's a rate increase for Commonwealth Edison. I'm going to continue my expression that the Commerce Commission, as far as I can remember, always seems to come with the rate increase, the first week or two in July after we've left this Session, knowing that we can't raise any heck about what they've done. And I think that the Citizens Utility Board has been the only one that has been trying to intervene and act responsibly. But, until I see the Illinois Commerce Commission showing some degree of balance, I'm going to continue my opposition and do that by this expression and a 'no' vote."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Leverenz."

"Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would hope that this Bill would receive 60 votes green for passage. Executive Director has already gone to the Senate to provide them with how they want their Bill as we have put it together here, readjusted. This Agency is in total 152  53rd Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 28, 1987 chaos. let alone the point that Representative Matijevich made. So, I would hope it would just get 60 votes."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Levin."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"He will. Quickly."

"How much of this is General Revenue and how much is from the Public Utilities Fund?"

"As I see it, Representative, there is $7,044,000 from Transportation Fund and $10,678,000 from the Public Utility Fund."

"Okay."

"There is no GRF that I know of."

"Thank you."

"The Gentleman from Peoria, Representative Saltsman."

"Yes, quickly, Madam Speaker. If it takes a 60th vote, I'll put it up there, but I still want to protest the way that we've been sending legislation to the Commerce Commission and the trucking industry and the towing industry. And after we pass laws, they don't even implement them. We got legislation in this year to cover up what they didn't do last year and they don't pay any attention to us over here. We've got to send them a message."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 773 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Adams, Representative Mays. One minute to explain your vote."

"I'm all for sending a message but I would appreciate 60 votes if we could get it."

"Have all voted who wish? Representative 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987 Saltsman, you have already spoken in debate, Sir. For what reason do you rise?"

"To explain my vote."

"I'm sorry. You don't have that opportunity. Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Hoffman. One minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would point out as the Sponsor of the Bill pointed out. There's no GRF money in here."

"Have all voted who wish? The Gentleman from Macon, Representative Tate. One minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This ... in Committee the Amendment was an agreed Amendment. But, I guess I would just like to remind the Membership that if we don't pass this today, we're going to be here a little bit longer tomorrow."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 57 voting "aye", 34 voting "no", 19 voting 'present'. Representative Mays asks for a Poll of the Absentees."

"Poll of those not voting. Representative Huff and Kubik."

"Postponed Consideration, please."

"The Gentleman asks for a Postponed Consideration. It will be put on the Order of Postponed Consideration. Allowing time for the Clerk's Office in Perfunctory Session, Representative Cullerton moves that this House stand adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. And this House stands adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow." 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 53rd Legislative Day May 28, 1987

"Messages from the Senate. Committee Reports. Representative Kulas, Chairman of the Committee on Energy Environment and Natural Resources, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 28, 1987 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills (sic - Senate Bills) 95 and 1013; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' Senate Bills 159 and 301. Further Committee Report from Representative Huff, Chairman of the Committee on Election Law, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 28, 1987 and reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass' Senate Bill 10. Introduction in First Reading of Senate Bills. Senate Bill 378, offered by Representative Keane, a Bill for an Act in relation to State Occupation and Use Taxes. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1138, offered by Representative Wojcik, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. First Reading of the Bill. 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