"The hour of 12:00 P.M. having arrived, the House will be in Session. Members will be at their seats. The Chaplain for today will be the Reverend Mary Katherine Pierce, Pastor of United Methodist Church of Good Hope. Reverend Pierce is a guest of Representative Kent Slater. The guests in the gallery may wish to rise and join us in the invocation. Reverend Pierce."
"Let us pray. Almighty God, who alone gives wisdom and understanding, we pray for all who hold public office in power, and for the life and welfare and virtue of the people who are in their hands. Endow all the Members of this House with the right understanding, pure purposes, and sound speech. And strengthen the sense of duty' in our political life. Breathe a new spirit into our state. And give our leaders a new vision. And makes us all a disciplined and devoted people. That we may do Thy will on earth as it is done in heaven. Through Jesus Christ Our Lord, Amen."
"The Gentlemen from Cook, Mr. Kubik, to lead us in the Pledge of the Flag."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, do you have any excused absences on the Democratic side? Mr. Matijevich."
"Mr. Speaker, none on this side of the aisle."
"Mr. Piel, are there any excused absences on the Republican side?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, let the record show that Representative Myron Olson, Representative Leah Didrickson, Representative 1 54th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 Richard Klemm, and Representative Fred Tuerk are excused today."
"Let the record so reflect. Mr. Clerk, take the record. 112 Members having answered to the call of the quorum, a quorum is present. For what purpose does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Harris, seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If it weren't against House Rules or bending of the Rules. I certainly wouldn't do this, but I would like to recognize, and have the House recognize with me, the students from St. John's Lutheran Church from Mt. Prospect, with their teachers who are here today. Ms. Burns and Mrs. Lapare. Thank you very much."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp. For what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I would just like to report on Representative Olson's operation. He was sitting up today. He was going to walk. And he should be home in about 3 days, doing exceptionally well."
"Great. We are all pleased about that. Glad to hear that. Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to introduce Bill Pasanotti who is the Speaker Protem in the New York Legislature. New York House of Representatives. Who is with us on the floor today. Right. This Assembly. Isn't that right, Bill? Assembly. And he is with us. Turn on Mr. Giorgi's microphone, if you will."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of all of my colleagues, that are here with me from New York. We want to thank you for this honor for allowing us the freedom of your fFloor and sharing your knowledge and expertise with us in the field of electronic voting. We'll also ask you for your wisdom in regard to the system. I am delighted to be here with so many friends of mine whom I have had the opportunity to get to know when I was President of the 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 NCSL, and due to my activity with so many of you through the Council of State Governments, as well. And for those of you who will be attending the Conference in Indianapolis, I look forward to seeing all of you there. Thank you for your courtesy, Mr. Speaker."
"With us also is Francine Missasi, who is the Clerk of the Assembly in New York. Is she ... is she with us at this time? Yes. Welcome. We welcome you. Representative Tate in the Chair."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. It is a pleasure and honor for me today to introduce Mrs. Horner and the State ... the 1986 State Volley Ball Championship AAA with a 33 and 0 record. Stewardson-Strasburg Girls. I would like Mrs. Horner to say a word. And let's give them a warm welcome. Thank you."
"We are honored to represent the best in Illinois High School Volley Ball. We're a small school of 130 students, and we were second in the state in 1984, and 1985, and finally won the State Championship in 1986. We have three all-state players, Amy Coons, Laura Bush, and Carla Friese. Also, Laura Bush was the first girl in Central Illinois History to make All American. And she is one of the most highly recruited players in the State of Illinois. It was fun to see all the West Coast recruiters driving around the corn fields of Shelby County. She turned down offers from USC, UCLA, and Stanford and she will be playing Volley Ball for the University of Illinois. next year. We thank you for the Resolution."
"A Resolution has been offered. House Resolution 381, recognizing, chronicling the achievements of these fine young women, and Representative Tate moves for its adoption. All those in favor signify by saying 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day 'aye', those opposed May 29, 1987 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolution is adopted. Also, as part of the New York Delegation, is Representative Kemp Harden who is ... Hannon, who is the Minority Representative on this Delegation. He is Minority Whip in the New York Assembly. He is back there. And if you would like to come forward to one of the Republican ... No? Alright ... you're always in the Minority. You can't even catch a break here, Representative. Well, we welcome you to the Illinois House. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution 444, offered by Representative Krska: 446, Phelps; 447, Rice: 451, Slater; 453, Martinez; 454. Hasara; 455, Hallock-Giorgi; 456, Wojcik-Park; 457, Giglio; 458, Ryder; 459, Shaw; 460, Phelps-Hicks-Rea; 461, Giglio; 462, Matijevich et al.; 463, McCracken; 464, Black; and Senate Joint Resolution 56, offered by Representative Stephens."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, on the Agreed Resolutions."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We have examined the Resolutions. They are all congratulatory. I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman from Lake moves for the adoption of Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."
"Senate Joint Resolution 49, offered by Representative Hasara; House Resolution 445, DeJaegher; and 465, by Madigan and Cullerton."
"Committee on Assignment. On Page five of the Calendar. on the Order of Consideration Postponed, appears House Bill 773. Mr. Mays, 773. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day
"House 3111 773, May 29, 1987 a Bill for an Act making appropriations for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Commerce Commission. This Bill has been read a third time previously."
"The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is one of the few agency Bills held over from yesterday's discussion on Appropriations. This is for the operations of the Illinois Commerce Commission, and I would move its passage."
"The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays, moves for the passage of House Bill 773. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Illinois Commerce Commission, as we discussed yesterday, does have a great number of problems. It was my original intent perhaps, not even to have them have a budget and send it to the Senate. Reconsidering that, I believe that we should send the budget to the Senate, SO that we have an entire full hearing in front of the Senate Appropriations Committee. I therefore, ask that you give this budget at least 60 votes so that it can get to the Senate."
"Is there further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no', voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 91 'aye, 11 'no', 5 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 783, on the Order of Consideration Postponed on page 5. Mr. Tate asks leave 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEБАТЕ 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 of the House to return this Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Gentleman has leave to return the Bill to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Mr. Clerk, is there a Motion?"
"No, I have an Amendment."
"Yes, Mr. Bowman, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I now move, Mr. Speaker, that we take Amendment #2 from the table."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman moves that we take Amendment #2 to House Bill 783 from the table. And on that, is there discussion? And on that Motion, is there any discussion? Mr. Bowman."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. To inform the Membership as to what is about to transpire here, this is the Mental Health budget, which was defeated yesterday on Third Reading. Part of the problem with that budget is that we were having difficulty reaching an agreement between both sides of the aisle on how much money should be appropriated to the institutions and how much to the community lines. The position that I took throughout that debate, was that both sides are right. That both institutional advocates are right, that there is more money needed there, and that the community people are right, that there is more money needed there. However, we really didn't have an Amendment before us yesterday that would have accomplished a compromise. We now have a compromise in the works, and this is the first step towards achieving that compromise. If Amendment #2 is taken from the table and restored to the Bill, then money will be restored to the institutional lines and it is my opinion that there would be no danger of further decertification efforts by 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day the Federal Government. May 29, 1987 Then, we will proceed to a Motion by Representative Tate to add some money to the community lines, and I think we will all live happily ever after. So, I renew my Motion to ..."
"Alright, is there any discussion with respect to the Motion to take Amendment #2 to House Bill 783 from the table? There being none, is there leave to use the Attendance Roll Call, so that Amendment #2 to House Bill 783 should be taken from the table? Leave is granted for use of the Attendance Roll Call. Now, Mr. Clerk, are there further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Tate and Bowman."
"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, on Tate: Amendment #6." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As Representative Bowman has already indicated, we are able to work out a compromise. Amendment #6 adds $10 million to the community lines. I move for its adoption."
"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate, moves for the adoption of Amendment #6 to House Bill 783. And on that, is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate moves to waive the appropriate House Rules so that this matter may be heard at this time. There being no objection, we will use the Attendance Roll Call. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill on Third Reading."
"House Bill 783, a Bill for an Act to make an 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities. Third Reading of the Bill."
"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Tate."
"I move for its approval."
"The Gentleman from Macon moves for the passage of House Bill 783. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton."
"Am I allowed to ask a question about appropriations?"
"Indeed, you may."
"Can you tell us a little bit more?"
"The Gentleman yields for questions."
"Can you tell us a little bit more, like the numbers?"
"Yes. Representative Cullerton, this budget is a $666,004,000. It's the appropriation for the Mental Health Budget."
"Thank you."
"You're welcome."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Since yesterday, I spoke urging a defeat of the Bill on Third Reading. I would now wish to rise and support the legislation, and in a ... also an effort to respond to Representative Cullerton, and anyone else who may be wondering what we have just done to the Bills. We had started out with 1987 expenditure levels as our base. that we achieve that through Amendment #1 which was put on in Committee. Amendment #2, which is now restored to the Bill, adds $24 million to the institutional lines which maintains current staff/patient ratios, but still requires the Department probably to cut some positions. Amendment #3 added $10 million dollars to the ... #6 rather, added $10 million dollars to the community lines. So, by and 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 large, we are about $35 million over the 87 expenditure level. So, I urge an 'aye' vote on this Bill."
"There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no', voting is open. This is final action. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 107, oh no, 8 voting 'aye', none voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On this Order appears House Bill 1409, Mr. Martinez. Mr. Martinez."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to make a Motion to place House Bill 1409 in Interim Study."
"The Gentleman asks leave to place House Bill 1409 on the Interim Study Calendar of Appropriation I, and without objection, leave is granted. On this Order appears House Bill 1774, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."
"House Bill 1774, a Bill for an Act making appropriations with the Department of Conservation. This Bill has been read a third time previously."
"The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1774 creates a Cash Incentive Program to work with the private sector in developing tourism and recreation in the southern region of the State, by helping to develop a lodge at Wayne Fitzgerald State Park, which will be a real asset to overall comprehensive tourism, which will serve as a hub to that region of the State. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, moves for the passage of House Bill 1774. And on that, the Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mays." 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield for a question?"
"He indicates he will."
"Didn't we address this same topic yesterday?"
"We discussed it yesterday, I don't think that some people really understood the true effect that this would have on recreation and tourism, a very important component of economic development."
"Has there been any enlightenment as to a budget situation with the General Funds in the State of Illinois since we defeated this overwhelmingly yesterday?"
"It was not defeated overwhelmingly yesterday, and also the Commerce Commission Budget was heard yesterday as well."
"Alright, to the Bill, Mr. Speaker. You know, I don't know whether the Members of this Assembly understand what happened yesterday, or what did not happen, but we all said 'no' to any budget increases. Every one of us. We each had some things that we might want, might have wanted to have seen in the budget, but we figured that with the budget and the funds in question as they are right now, now may not be the appropriate time to do this. What we are going to be doing if we approve this Bill, is spending $500,000 for a State Park Facility in Mr. Rea's district. I imagine it's a great idea, and it's probably a great project. But I, please, ask you to remember what we did yesterday. Remember that we did it because we didn't feel we had the funds available to do all these nice things this year. And I would ask for a 'no' vote on this Bill."
"Further discussion? The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This will have an impact, not just in my district, but it will within a region of the State. As I mentioned earlier, it will serve as a hub. It will 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 generate monies, it will help create and bring about many visitors to the area, which will help the economy. It will also help in creation of jobs where there is a very high unemployment. This Bill, for the amount that we would spend, would be peanuts in terms of what it will generate. I ask for an 'aye vote."
"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open and this is final action. The Gentleman from Jackson, Mr. Richmond. One minute to explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I certainly agree with the Sponsor of this measure, and I also agree with the previous ... one of the previous speakers from the other side of the aisle that this not a good time to be innovating new programs, that cost money. But it's also a time when we shouldn't delay some of the things that would be so damn important to our area. And it's a... as one who goes and hears a lot from people in our district, or part of the State, where they go out of the State to spend their dollars, this Bill would address that, and certainly, I think it would be far sighted to support it and see that we can't get in line in competition with our neighboring states in this regard."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leverenz. One minute to explain your vote."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would encourage some more green votes. This is a perfect example of how perhaps government should work. We put $500,000 up only if someone else comes in with $7 or $8 million. And if it never happens, the money doesn't get spent. All we are doing is hiding the money for awhile, and it's like banking. Well, I see I got one more green vote, maybe I can get two or three, do I see 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 54th Legislative Day four."
"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 57 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no'. Mr. Rea, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Rea, for what purpose are you seeking recognition?"
"Poll the absentees, please."
"The Gentleman asks for a poll of those not voting. Excuse me, Ms. Stern, for what purpose do you seek ... Ms. Stern goes from 'no' to 'aye'. Yes, Mr. Krska goes from 'not voting' to 'aye'. Mr. Sutker goes from 'no' to 'aye'. The Gentleman from Adams, Mr. May, has requested a verification of the Affirmative Roll Call. The Gentleman from Franklin, Mr. Rea, has requested a poll of those not voting. Mr. Clerk, proceed with the poll of those not voting."
"Capparelli, DeLeo, Flinn, Frederick, Huff, and Martinez."
"Mr. Clerk, proceed with the verification of the Affirmative Roll Call."
"Berrios, Black, Braun, Breslin, Bugielski, Christensen, Cullerton, Curran, Currie, Davis, DeJaegher, Dunn ..."
"Excuse me, Mr. Mays, Mr. White asks leave to be verified. Mr. White. Alright, you have leave, Mr. White. Proceed, Sir."
"Farley, Flowers, Giglio, Giorgi, Goforth, Granberg, Greiman, Hannig, Hartke, Hicks, Jones, Keane, Krska, Kulas, Laurino, LeFlore, Leverenz, Levin, Matijevich, Mautino, McGann, McNamara, McPike, Morrow, Mulcahey, Novak, O'Connell, Panayotovich, Phelps, Preston, Rea, Rice, Richmond, Ronan, Ropp, Saltsman, Satterthwaite, 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day Shaw, Steczo, Stern, Sutker, Turner, Van Duyne, White, Williams, Wolfe, Anthony Young, and Wyvetter Younge."
"Mr. Mays, questions of the Affirmative Roll?"
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. We're getting our sheets in right now, even as we speak. Representative Flowers."
"Representative Flowers is in the ... is at her chair."
"Representative Bowman."
"Mr. Bowman is voting 'no'."
"Representative Sutker."
"Mr. Sutker is in his chair."
"Representative Brunsvold."
"Mr. Brunsvold is at the door."
"Representative Daley."
"Mr. Daley. Mr. Daley is not voting."
"Representative DeLeo."
"Mr. DeLeo is not voting."
"Representative Capparelli."
"Mr. Capparelli is not voting."
"Representative Huff."
"Mr. Huff is not voting."
"Representative Hicks."
"Mr. Hicks. Is Mr. Hicks in the chamber? How is Mr. Hicks recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded voting 'aye'."
"Remove Mr. Hicks from the Roll Call."
"Representative Turner."
"Mr. Turner. Representative Turner is in the third, second row of the Democratic side."
"Representative Shaw."
"Mr. Shaw. Mr. Shaw is at Mr. Rice's chair."
"Representative Kulas." 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987
"Mr. Kulas is at his own seat."
"Representative Ronan."
"Mr. Ronan. Mr. Ronan. Is Mr. Ronan in the chamber? How is Mr. Ronan recorded? Mr. Ronan is at the side door."
"Representative Black."
"Mr. Black is not in the chamber. How is Mr. Black recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove Mr. Black. May Ms. Braun have leave to be verified?"
"Absolutely."
"Alright, Ms. Braun has leave to be verified."
"Representative Laurino, please."
"Mr. Huff has returned to the chambers. Restore Mr. Huff to the Roll Call. Oh, I'm sorry. Mr. Huff votes 'aye'."
"Yes. Representative Laurino, please."
"Mr. Laurino. Mr. Laurino. Is Mr. Laurino in the chamber? Mr. Laurino? How is Mr. Laurino recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove Mr. Laurino from the Roll Call."
"Representative Mulcahey."
"Mr. Mulcahey. Is Mr. Mulcahey in the chamber? Mr. Mulcahey? How is Mr. Mulcahey recorded?"
"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."
"Remove Mr. Mulcahey from the Roll Call. Mr. Ropp, for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. Ropp goes from 'aye' to 'no'. Have you now completed your ..."
"I have completed. Thank you very much."
"Alright. On this question, there are 56 voting 'aye'. there are 46 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. Mr. Brunsvold for what purpose do you seek recognition? Mr. 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL AS SEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 Brunsvold goes from 'no' to 'aye'. So on this question, there are 57 ayes, 45 'no', 1 voting present', and this Bill ... Mr. Terzich, for what purpose are you seeking recognition?"
"Vote me 'aye'."
"Mr. Terzich goes from 'no' to 'aye'. On this question, there are 58 voting 'aye', 44 voting 'no', 1 voting present. And this Bill, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Ladies and Gentlemen. the Clerk advisor reminds us that today is the deadline for the introduction of Senate Bills in the House. No Bill can be read a first time until it has a House Sponsor. I would request, therefore, that you examine the Senate Bills that are in the ... today's Calendar, that do not have a Sponsor, and that these Bills be picked up. So that, otherwise, they will be tabled for want of a Sponsor. We have also been advised by the maintenance people that the chairs that Members are using, apparently are being misused, and Members are sitting on the arm of the chair which is breaking the base. And we have recently had to replace eight chairs in the House. And we have no more replacements. So, where you are sitting is where you are going to sit. Mr. McCracken, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I promise not to sit on the arm of my chair if you will give me a stool. Can I count on that from the Speaker?"
"I think I'll ... I think I'll just let that one rest. Mr. Steczo, for the purpose of a Motion."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would move, Mr. Speaker, to take House Bills 1254, 1255, and 1257 from the table. And place those on the Interim Study Calendar of the Counties and Townships Committee. That has been cleared by both 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 54th Legislative Day sides of the aisle."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Steczo, moves to take those House Bills enumerated from the table and place them on the Interim Study Calendar of the Cities and Villages ... of what ... of the Counties and Townships Committee. Is there leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted, and is so ordered. Mr. Dunn, the Gentleman from Macon, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to suspend the appropriate Rules to waive the posting requirement for Senate Bill 1001, so that it may be heard next week in House Judiciary I Committee. This Motion has been cleared with both sides of the aisle."
"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn, moves to waive the posting requirements with respect to House Bill 1001, so the Bill may be heard in Judiciary I at its next meeting next week. There being no objection. Use of the Attendance Roll Call, and the Motion is granted. The Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Stange, for what purpose are you seeking recognition, Sir?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know I am out of order here. I would like to introduce St. Joseph High School in the balcony up there. St. Joseph, from Westchester, stand up and say hello."
"Yes, you are out of order. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Order of ... on Speaker's Table, Short Debate, on Page six of the Calendar, appears House Resolution 106. Out of the Record. Appears House Bill ... I'm sorry. House Resolution 142. Mr. Clerk."
"House Resolution 142, a Resolution to support voluntary action in the private and public sector in regard to rights of non-smokers and smokers. Energy and 16 54th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 Environment and Natural Resources Committee recommends, 'be adopted."
"And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Kulas."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Resolution 142 resolves that the House of Representatives congratulates the various private industry organizations that have established a program of voluntary compliance to address public smoking and it requests them to submit a report on the success of this program by May 1, 1988. A private smoking program has recently been established by the Illinois State Chamber of Commerce, the Illinois Manufacturers Association, the Illinois Retailers Association, the Illinois Hotel and Motel Association, the Illinois Restaurant Association, and other business organizations to encourage voluntary smoking programs by business. This Resolution simply congratulates these organizations for entering into a program of voluntary compliance, and we seek to accommodate the rights and concerns of smokers and non-smokers alike in public place. I would ask for the adoption of House Resolution 142."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Kulas, moves for the adoption of House Resolution 142. And on that, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Terzich."
"Yes, I would like to know from the Sponsor if he would answer a few questions or inquiries. Is ... what's the economic impact on this Resolution? Do you have a fiscal note or anything about the economic impact on this?"
"No, there is no economic impact, Representative Terzich. This is a voluntary compliance program entered into voluntarily by the different associations that I have spoken about before."
"Could you tell me what they are supposed to voluntary 17 54th Legislative Day comply with?" STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987
"They are supposed to start these different non-smoking programs in these different organizations. Something similar to what you were trying to make mandatory in House Bill 20."
"Alright, then you are saying that, you're telling them that they are to try to comply with the Illinois Clean Indoor Air Act that was sponsored in the House?"
"No, they realize that there is a problem with secondary smoke, which is one of the problems that your Bill tried to address. Unfortunately, your Bill was a mandatory Bill, and this, they decided, it would be better to go into a voluntary compliance program, with different association agreeing, their members agreeing to try it differently in their own areas. Because people in Carbondale have different businesses than people in Chicago. They have different places of business, and different rules would apply. So, therefore, they are trying to make members of these different associations comply to take care of the rights of the non-smokers too."
"Well, the Resolution congratulates somebody. I think, the Illinois Manufacturers Association, or the Chamber of Commerce, or what have you. What type of voluntary program do they have? I don't understand. Who set up the voluntary program? And what type of a program, could you kind of explain to me, what a program consists of?"
"Well, Mr. Terzich. Representative Terzich, you know these associations all have their own members. And their members then received, I ... maybe you might have gotten one, I know they sent some to Representatives, different pamphlets that they sent out to all their members, asking them ... explaining what the different programs ... what they were trying to do, and then their members will try to do this 18 54th Legislative Day voluntarily. STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 And we are saying, that we commend them for doing this on their own initiative."
"Could you give me just one example of a program?"
"That in restaurants there should be smoking areas and non-smoking areas, where possible, you know. This type of thing we are talking about."
"No, I don't ... I don't know basically, I mean could you give me one example of a program that they are supposed to voluntarily go in to?"
"Basically, Representative Terzich, I just explained it to you. They are sending out letters to all their members saying, we know there is a problem, and we know we have to do something about this problem, so here is what we asking you to do. Look into your own situation, where you can. Stop smoking. Stop it. Where you can't, we understand it. But we want you to do a voluntary compliance program."
"And, who is supposed to gather this information and ... who is it ... what are they supposed to do with the information? Are they to report to the General Assembly?"
"As I mentioned, the different organizations are the Illinois State Chamber of Commerce, the Manufacturers, the Retail Merchants, the Hotel/Motel Association, the Restaurants Association. They would put together a report and we are asking them to. It's not mandating them, but we are asking them, since they voluntarily went in to this program, to give us a report by May 1 of 1988, how this compliance is coming around."
"Who is us? Who would they give the report to? You personally?"
"To the House of Representatives."
"Well, who would the House of Representatives ... I mean, would it be the Department of Public, or the you know, the Speaker, or who would they give it to me. 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 54th Legislative Day personally?"
"To all Members of the House of Representatives."
"And then, what would we do with it?"
"Like all other reports that come on your desk, you read it or you throw it away."
"What would you do with it?"
"Have you concluded your remarks. Mr. Terzich?"
"Yes, well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. With regard to the Resolution. I don't even know why we took the time to even print that up. I believe the Resolution probably was prepared by the A.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, or some affiliate, and that we have, and I noticed that it was brought upon the House floor, about all the associations and organizations that encourage the adoption of the Illinois Clean Indoor Act, which included basically all of the news media, the Crane's Business, and Cancer Society, Lung Association, and many, many others who encouraged people to adopt that type of a program. This Resolution doesn't address any problem or address any program, and I would urge a 'no' vote."
"Further discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall ... Mr. Panayotovich."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is it. Everybody talks about smoking, non-smoking. This is a voluntary program we are talking about until 1988. This is exactly what I said to Representative Terzich. Let's try it, if it doesn't work we'll come back, and then we'll put some legislation together that would make sense. It's a voluntary non-smoking program. We should go with it, and let's try it for May of 88. Report back to the House, and I personally, will then work with Representative Terzich if it doesn't work out. I urge your 'aye' votes on this 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 simple Resolution."
"The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is perhaps well meaning, but it really is indisguised, a thinly veiled attempt to slow down the momentum of anti-smoking legislation which every survey that we see shows that a majority of this state and this Nation want. So, I think we should face the question squarely and stop beating around the bush. This Resolution may be well intended, but it's ultimate effect is to, is to try to slow down the anti-smoking legislation which should be considered by this General Assembly, and passed. I urge a 'no' vote."
"The Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Ropp."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. It seems like we currently have a voluntary program because there is nothing on the books right now. What we are saying is by this Resolution, that we want to commend you for this voluntary program. It only kills 250 people a year. Congratulations, a job well done. I don't think that this is what we want to send out to the General Public, that we are supporting this kind of voluntary program. The truth of the matter is, the voluntary program is not working like it ought to, and we ought to address it in a little firmer intent. I guess, fortunately enough, most of these Resolutions that are printed, really aren't worth much more than the paper they are printed on and this will follow in that same order."
"Gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Stephens."
"I move the previous question."
"What was that, Mr. Stephens? I didn't hear that. Could you repeat that again?"
"Mr. Speaker, are you ready? I move the previous 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day question." Speaker Greiman: you May 29, 1987 "Well there are no further ... yes, I'll be with in a second. Mr. Flinn, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"I object."
"No further Members are seeking recognition. Mr. Kulas to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As to some of the comments of some of the previous speakers, this voluntary program has just started two, to three months ago. It hasn't been in use before. It's something that has just been started, so we want to give it a chance to work. As far as this Resolution being prepared by A.J. Reynolds, this Resolution was prepared by the Legislative Reference Bureau. It's a good Resolution. have got 77 Sponsors. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote."
"The question is, 'Shall this Resolution be adopted? All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is now open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? We Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, there are 88 voting 'aye', 9 voting 'no', 12 voting 'present'. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Stephens, you have given new meaning to the word 'hutzpah'. The Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Dunn, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm sorry to take the time of the House, but I rise again to waive posting requirements. So I move to suspend the appropriate Rules to waive the posting requirements, so that Senate Bill 1172 may be heard next week in House Judiciary I Committee."
Speaker Greiman: "The Gentleman asks leave of the House to use the Attendance Roll Call to waive the posting requirements 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 with respect to House Bill (sic-Senate Bill) 1172. Is there leave? Leave is granted. And the Motion is adopted. And now, Ladies and Gentlemen, it is as is our tradition, Representative DiPrima, who was formerly the Dean of the House of Representatives, will lead us in our traditional Memorial Day Service. Yes, Mr. Giorgi, the Gentleman from Winnebago, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, I have cleared it with the other side of the aisle and I would like to waive the posting rule so that Senate Bill 1005 could be heard in Committee next week."
"What Committee, Mr. Giorgi?"
"Revenue Committee."
"The Gentleman asks leave of the House using the Attendance Roll Call to waive the posting requirements so that Senate Bill 1005 may be heard in the Committee on Revenue. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. You have leave, Sir. Mr. Terzich, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like to waive the posting requirements with regard to the Executive Committee for Senate Bill 959, 960 and 162."
"The Gentleman asks leave of the House using the Attendance Roll Call to waive the posting requirements with respect to those Bills. Is there leave granted? Leave is granted. Mr. Steczo, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask leave of the House to suspend the posting requirements to have House ... Senate Bills 600, 682, 846, 1255, 359 and 1269."
"The Gentleman asks leave of the House to waive the posting requirements of those Bills so that they may be heard in the Committee on Cities and Villages next week. 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day Mr. Steczo, May 29, 1987 would you bring those Bills, that list, up to the Clerk after this Motion. Yes, Mr. Steczo."
"Speaker, part of the Motion was that SO these Bills could be posted for Sub-Committee."
"Alright, so that they will not be considered, but merely posted for Sub-Committee.
"They may be considered Is that correct?" shortly after the original Committee meets."
"Alright, is there leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Leave is granted. Are there any other Motions or announcements? Alright, and now, Representative DiPrima."
"Thank you, Al. Ladies and Gentlemen, once again we go into our annual Memorial Day Program. We are deeply grateful to the Speaker for allowing us this time, knowing the busy schedule the House has, so we'll try to do it with as much expediency as possible. We will start by having Gordon Ropp give us the Pledge of Allegiance. Please rise."
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Now, we will start by having Mary Flowers recite, 'I Am Your Flag'. Mary."
"I Am Your Flag. I was born on June 14, 1977 (sic 1777). I am more than just a cloth shaped into a design. I am the refuge of the world's oppressed people. I am the silent sentinel of freedom. I am the emblem of the greatest sovereign nation on earth. I am the inspiration for which American Patriots gave their lives and their fortunes. I have led your sons into battle from Valley Forge, to the bloody swamps of Vietnam. I have walked in 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 silence with each of your honored dead, to their final resting place, beneath the silent white crosses, row upon row. I have flown through peace and war, strife and prosperity, and amidst it all, I have been respected. My red stripes symbolize the blood spilled in defense of this glorious nation. My white stripes signify as the burning tears shed by Americans who have lost their sons. My blue fills is indicative of God's heaven, under which I fly. My stars, clustered together, unify fifty states as one for God and Country. Old Glory is my nickname, and proudly I waive on high. Honor me, respect me, defend me with your lives and your fortune. Never let my enemies tear me down from my lofty position. Least I never return. Keep alight the fires of patriotism. Strive earnestly for the spirit of Democracy. Worship eternal God and keep his commandments, and I shall remain the bulk worth of peace, freedom for all mankind."
"Thank you. Mary. Now, it is my deepest pleasure to introduce my boss, the new Director of the Department of Veterans Affairs. I have known General Johnson for quite a few years, he often asked me to support various Bills for the Illinois National Guard, and now he has become the Director of ... but he has a splendid war record. He fought with the 40th Division. He was a front line ... what do you call them ... forward observer, they're right in front of the infantry. My good friend, General Johnson."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, and distinguished guests. Memorial Day conveys to Americans the price of the pain of our great freedom. It isn't a day to honor the dead, rather their service and sacrifice to America. Whether those whom we honor died on the battle field, or off the battle field is of little 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 importance. What is important, is that each of those who died, is a part of America's past. Each, in some manner, has made his or her own contribution to our great American Heritage. We have heard it said many times that the present is merely a prelude to the future. Applying that same logic, we can conclude that yesterday was a prelude to today. Those to whom we pay homage, on this Memorial Day, 1987, from the Patriots of early America to the dead of the four wars of the 20th Century, have played their role in shaping the destiny of our Nation. From them, we have inherited a sacred trust. They established and then preserved our freedom through self sacrifice, personal valor, and an unswerving devotion to the causes which were greater to them, than life alone. We can pay no higher tribute to our dead, nor render greater service to our Nation this day, than to instill into others who, seemingly, have no special reason to remember the true spirit of Memorial Day. This is, in truth, a day for all Americans. I would like to leave you with just this one thought. God in a soldier all men adore. In time of trouble and no more. For when war is over, and all things are righted. God is neglected, the old soldier slighted. Thank you."
"Alright, now we have Kathleen Wojcik, who will recite the Poem, 'Memorial Day', which was composed by William J. Acker. Kathleen Wojcik."
""At Gettysburg, at San Juan Hill, in Flander's Fields now all is still. But men still drill and march away, like you who made Memorial Day. In Normandy and on Battan, in Inchon, Kaison, and in Iran. Selfishly, the need you met and now we know we must not forget. Those who fought and those who fell, to hear the bell of freedom nell. We crouch beside your graves today, these wreaths of vernal 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 buds to lay. And to you who died for freedoms sake, a pledge to carry on we make. The torch that you so bravely bore, shall be our beacon ever more. We pray that by its guiding light, we'll find our course and hold it right. We hope it may throughout the years, bring an end to blood and tears. For we're a Nation, proud and free, and sometimes it is hard to see. Where a friendship for our cause abides, and where a foe of freedom hides. You have found peace while we will still weep, and wail our charges, we must keep. There will be no peace until we find, a way that's just for all mankind."
"Thank you, Kathleen. Now, we will hear from Peggy Breslin, who will give her version of 'In Flander's Field the Poppies Grow.'"
"In Flander's Field the poppies blow between the crosses row on row, that mark our place. And in the sky, the larks still bravely singing. Fly scarce herd amid the guns below. We are the dead. Short days ago, we lived, felt dawn, saw a sunset glow, loved and were loved and now we lie in Flander's Fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe. To you from failing hands, we throw the torch. Be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die, we shall not sleep though poppies grow in Flander's Field."
"John O'Connell, a Veteran of the Vietnam War, with a remembrance of President John F. Kennedy."
"In 1962, President John F. Kennedy was reminded, during a public address, of the old verse scrolled on a sentry box more than 300 years ago. 'God and a soldier all men adore. In time of trouble and no more. For when war is over, and all things are righted. God is neglected, the old soldier slighted.' Recent events bear out the late President's belief that more distant time moves from the sound of battle, the more dim public memory becomes of a 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 sacrifice is exacted at the price for victory and the greater the inclination to challenge the Veterans programs, once accepted as just and reasonable."
"Thank you, John. The other day, I was kidding John McNamara back there about organizing McNamara's Band. And he said to me, he says 'you know I'm quite a flutist', however you pronounce it. But anyway, he is going to give us his inimitable style of playing our favorite patriotic songs with the flute."
"(Flute)."
"Well, I don't think he was kidding me when he said he's a terrific flutist. He is. Alright, in the past, I have always mentioned the fact, when I was kid there was a preacher, his name was Billy Sunday, and he always passed the hat with a tin plate. And when he made a collection he said he didn't want to hear a sound. Well, as you know, we have the poppies out there, and I've got my secretary back there. Anybody wants one, that hasn't got one yet, and I want to mention a few people that were very generous in their donation. We have Penny Pullen gave $5. Bruce Farley gave $6 because Al Ronan gave $6. Ted Leverenz gave $5. Lee Daniels gave $10. Ed Petka, $5. Wayne Goforth, $5. Al Ronan, as I mentioned gave $6. Myron Kulas, $5. Brunsvold, Joel Brunsvold, $5. Richard Mautino, $5. Jesse White, $5. Bob Krska, $10. Woods Bowman, $5. Jim Keane, $5. The Clerk's staff $5, from up there. Roger McAuliffe, $5. Phil Collins. Phil Collins was a Member of this Body, and was a strong supporter of all Veterans legislation, and his father, Frank Collins was the king maker in the Legion. Years before I joined the Legion, and Phil made a donation of $5. John Houlihan, Director of Veterans Affairs under Governor Walker, instituted many changes in the procedures of the Department. John also 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 gave $5. He was former Director of the Department of Veterans Affairs. Jim DeLeo, my successor, gave $5. Paul Colgan, staff member, gave $5. Geoff Obrzut, also a member of the staff, $5. And up in the Gallery there, we have Frank Rieschnate, past State Commander of the VFW, and a State Chairman for the Legislative Commission, of which I am a Member of that Body. And we also have Bernard Krueger, from the VFW Post here in Springfield, who gave us the poppies. Thank you, Gentlemen. Now, we will go on with the program. Next on the program is Terry Park. The Ten Commandments of a Good American, Terry."
"The Ten Commandments of a Good American. Love and Honor the United States of America. Obey its laws and uphold its constitution. Respect its flag and oppose all its enemies. Reverence and support of the national motto, 'In God We Trust'. Cherish and defend liberty and justice for all. Oppose discrimination and practice brotherhood. Exercise the right to vote and preserve freedom. Oppose and expose crime, political corruption, and indecency. Increase the American status through education. Strive for peace and a free world."
"Thank you, Terry. And now, we will hear 'A Solemn Remembrance of a Gold Star Mother' by Representative Rea. Is Rea there? Rea. Well, we have to pass him by. Alright. Jane Barnes with 'A Star in God's Window'."
"A Star in God's Window, by Reverend Eugene M. Denner. It was an early spring evening during the first World War. A father and his four year old son, were taking a leisurely stroll through a residential neighborhood. As they walked by a darkened home, little Bobby notice a service flag in the window, with a gold star, on a field of white, with a red border. 'What kind of flag is that daddy?' the lad inquired of his father. 'That star means, that the people 29 54th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 in that home have lost a son in the war. Their boy died fighting for our freedom'. A few minutes, in the distance, over the chimney of a house a block away, a twinkling star appeared in the sky. It was the first star of the evening, and it caught the attention of the little boy. He looked up at his father and asked, "Daddy did God lose a son in the war?" Momentarily the father was at a loss for words. But he looked down at his son, laid his hand on his head and smiled, 'Yes, Bobby, God gave up his Son, that all people might be free.. As we observe Memorial Day may we remember the great sacrifices our comrades have made over the years, SO that we might enjoy the freedoms that our ours. May we remember the valiant deeds that have done for this great United States of America. May we join our fellow voyagers across this great land in paying our respects and tribute for a job well done. May we also remember their families and loved ones, that their personal needs may not go unattended. That they may take care of our own, in love and esteem. Help Us to remember those that may be suffering pain and distress in our various homes and hospitals across this land. May we continue to join hands in working together for this common cause of helping them in their needs. May we share the love and concern of our fallen comrades, as we share the meaning of our freedoms with our children and fellow citizens. Thank you."
"I neglected to mention that John Houlihan was a Member of this Body at one time, and I don't have to tell you he was pro-Veteran. He lost a leg in Bouganville. Next on the program, is 'What Memorial Day Means to Me' by Lee Preston."
"In times of peace, in times of war, men and women of the armed forces have stood ready to protect our ideals of 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 democracy. We will not forget their heroic deeds, for they were done in the name of freedom. We cannot forget their loyalty, for it gave their struggle meaning, and kept this Nation strong. And we must not forget them, for they gave their lives, so that this Nation might live. On Memorial Day, let's pay grateful tribute, to those who lived and died so courageously for their country, and for ours."
"Thank you, Lee. Now, we have another Vietnam Veteran, who will relate to you, "What is a Veteran" by Kent Slater."
"What is a Veteran? He's a man who looks the world in the eye, and who feels an extra heartbeat when the flag goes by. He's a man who steps a little faster when he hears a military band. He comes from all assorted races, sizes and shapes, he's big, small, short and tall. He's the doughboy of World War I, the G.I. of World War II, Korea and Vietnam. He's a soldier, a sailor, a flier and a Marine. He's artillery, infantry, medic, chemical, engineer, armoured, ordinance and corpsman. He's a Republican, he's a Democrat, he's an Independent. He's a man who loves peace, because he knows the cost of war. He is a good citizen and a man who knows the price of freedom. He's America's most honored citizen and a member of history's most exclusive fraternity."
"Thank you, Kent. Now, we will hear from Carol Braun, who will give us her rendition of the song, "My Buddy". About 10 years ago, I asked Carol if she would sing that song, and she said, "Gee I know the melody, but I forgot the words". I said, "Gee what a shame". She says, "My sister in New York, I know knows the words". So she wrote her sister in New York, and then got the words, and she has been singing that song every year for us. Thank you, Carol Braun." 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day
"(Sings "My Buddy') May 29, 1987
"Thank you, Carol. Now, we will hear from Penny Pullen, with A Republic that has Endured."
"Mr. Speaker, if I may, I would like to part for just a moment from that, before I read that, to ask us all to offer a prayer for our POW's who are listed as 'Missing in Action', but many of whom we believe are still alive in Laos, in Vietnam. And we pray that the Lord will restore them to our arms, or if that not be His will, that He will swiftly take them to His arms, so that there suffering might end. Amen. This was inscribed on the Memorial to War Dead in Arlington, Virginia. And, I offer it today particularly in memory of the men on the U.S.S. Stark, who have recently given their lives by serving in a risky place in the World. But also, in memory and honor of all who have gone before us and lost their lives for us. *Not for fame or reward, not for a place or for rank. Not lured by ambition, or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty as they understood it. These men suffered all, sacrificed all, deared all and died"."
"Thank you, Pullen. Now we will hear from Helen Satterthwaite, who will give us her version of the song, • America the Beautiful"."
"(Sings)."
"Thank you, thank you, Helen Satterthwaite. I can't help but recall when I was a little tike and the school teacher, as Mrs. Satterthwaite is, used to sing that song. Now we will have a reading of General John A. Logan's orders for the First Memorial Day, by Mike Weaver. Mike and I are members of the 40 and 8. That means 40 men and 8 horses. In French, that was in the first World War, and they have programs, and especially the one that I always ... is the one that 40 and 8 goes for big. And that's 32 54th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 supporting the kid's to go. They donate money to make nurses out of kid's that want to be nurses. They send them to school with funds and all that. And I always, whenever I spoke on behalf of the nurses, I always referred to them as Angels of Mercy'. Michael proceed."
"General Order #11, Headquarters, Grand Army of the Republic, Washington, D.C., May 5, 1868. The 30th day of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers, or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion. And those bodies lie in almost every city, village, and hamlet church yard in the land. In this observance, no form or ceremony is prescribed, but posts and comrades will, in their own way, arrange such fitting services and testimonials of respect that circumstances may permit. We are organized comrades, as our regulations tell us, for the purpose, among other things, of preserving and strengthening those kind fraternal feelings, which have bound together soldiers, sailors and Marines, who united to suppress the late rebellion. What can add more to assure this result, than be cherishing tenderly, the memory of our heroic dead, who made their breasts a barricade between our country and its foes. Their soldier lives were the revelry of freedom, to erase and change, and their deaths, a tatoo of rebellious tyranny and arms. We should guard their graves with sacred vigilance. All that the concentrated wealth and taste of the nation can add to their adornment, and security, is but a fitting tribute to the memory of her slain defenders. Let no wanten foot tread brutally on such hallowed grounds. Let pleasant paths invite the coming and going of reverent visitors and fond mourners. Let no vandalism of avarice or neglect, no ravages of time, testify to present, or to coming generations that we have 33 54th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 29, 1987 forgotten as a people, the cost of a free and undivided republic. If other eyes grow dull, and other hands slack, and other hearts cold in the solemn trust, ours shall keep it well as long as the light, and the warmth of life remains to us. Let us then, at the time appointed, gather around their sacred remains, and garland the passionless mounds above them, with the choicest flowers of springtime. Let us raise above them the dear old flag they saved from dishonor. Let us, in their solemn presence, renew our pledges, to aid and assist those whom they have left among us, as a sacred charge upon the Nation's gratitude. The soldiers and sailors widow and orphan. It is the purpose of the Commander in Chief to inaugurate this observance with the hope that it will be kept up from year to year. While the survivor of the war remains to honor the memory of his departed comrades, he earnestly desires the public to call attention to this order, and lend its friendly aid, in bringing it to the notice of comrades in all parts of the country in times, or simultaneous compliance, therewith. Department Commanders will use every effort to make this order effective, by command of John A. Logan, Commander in Chief."
"Thank you ever so much, Mike. As you enter these portals on your right hand side, there's a statue there of John A. Logan. I never knew it during the time I was here, until I introduced a Bill to have Memorial Day come back to May 30, where it rightfully belongs. And one man that's well aware of Memorial Day, and John A. Logan, is Bruce Richmond. Richmond .... was born a short distance away from where General Logan was born. Of course, General Logan was also Vice President. So, we're going to hear Bruce Richmond enlighten us in a bit of History on General John A. Logan. Bruce." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987
"Thank you, Larry, and Ladies and Gentlemen. I am from Murphysboro, which is my home town, and also the birth place and home town of General John A. Logan. Murphysboro being 350 miles south of Chicago, and 220 north of Memphis Tennessee, would give you an idea of some of the problems that a northerner might have had during the Civil War, and certainly he did rise to great stature as a result of his activities in that War. And, al though, many people nationwide associate southern Illinois as General John A. Logan. with the establishment of Memorial Day, few people are aware that he also occupies a prominent place in a popular imaginative work, the Illinois State Song. Known variously as Illinois, by thy rivers gently flowing, the song was given official status in 1925, at a time when Springfield Legislators paused in their deliberation to name a State bird, which is the Cardinal, to go with an already named State flower, and the tree, the violet, and the white oak. The State Song describes Illinois' large rivers and prairies, and great commercial tree, which is reference to Chicago and its rail lines. And eulogizes the brave Illinoisans, who fought in the Civil War, where the shot and shell were falling. It ends with references to three great Illinoisans involved in the Civil War, Lincoln, Grant and John A. Logan. And one of the verses goes like this, I will not put it to music: "Not without thy wondrous story, Illinois, Illinois. Can be writ the nation's glory, Illinois, Illinois. On the record of thy years. Abraham Lincoln's name appears, Grant and Logan in our tears, Illinois, Illinois. Grant and Logan in our tears, Illinois'. Thirty years. and another war later, Illinois was still so popular that it had no equal among other songs of its kind. Introduced as the official state song in a Bill by Senator Florence Fifer Boehrer, the first 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 woman to serve as Member in the Illinois Senate. 'Illinois' passed both Houses of the Legislature without opposition and soon became a part of state history."
"Thank you every so much, Bruce. Alright, we are going to close now with the modified quartet comprised of the Poppy Day Bells. Margaret Parcells, Linda Jean Williamson, and Karen Hasara supported by none other than David 'Digger', how do you say, what's that song? Anyway 'Digger Phelps will give their arrangement of the song 'God Bless America'. Sing it."
"Let's all stand, I think it's appropriate to end up with this. We've got a lot of roses among the thorn up here, so we've got some good help. Let's sing it real good tonight, okay?"
"Thank you. Thank you. Now, you fellas from the VFW come down here and we'll give you the monies with the poppies that are left. Any of you who haven't bought a poppy now, get in the back there, and give a healthy, oh, I'm going to donate $5 incidentally, $10. $10. $15. Okay, thank you all."
"Mr. Homer, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"For the purpose of an announcement, Mr. Speaker. I just learned that one of our Staff Members, Chief Fiscal Officer, Majority Staff, Shirley McCombs and her sister works for us as well, Susan McFarland. Their mother passed away this morning, and I mention that to you only so that you might remember them in your prayers and perhaps with your cards."
"Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution 466, Curran: 467 Curran and 469 Terzich."
"The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich." 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day
May 29, 1987 "Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. These are agreed to, and I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions. On the Adjournment Resolution, Mr. Clerk."
"House Joint Resolution 58, resolved by the Senate of the 85th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the House of Representatives concurring herein, that when the Senate adjourns on Thursday, May 28, 1987, it stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 2, 1987 at 12:00 noon. And when the House of Representatives adjourn on Friday, May 29, 1987, it stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 2, 1987 at 12:00 noon."
"The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All those in favor, 'aye', opposed 'no', in the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolution is adopted. Now, Mr. Giorgi, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"
"Mr. Speaker, earlier I had leave of the House to post the Bill, Senate Bill 1005 in the Revenue Committee, but I have been informed the Bill has been reassigned to Judiciary I Committee. So I would like the record to show that Judiciary I Committee is the Committee where the Bill is at where the hearing is requested."
"Alright, without objection, using the Attendance Roll Call, the Bill will be placed on the ... notice will be waived, post notice waived, and will be assigned to Judiciary I. Alright, and the Gentleman from Madison, Mr. McPike, on the Adjournment Motion. Mr. McPike, the Gentleman from Madison moves that the House 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 stand adjourned until the hour of 12:00 on Tuesday, leaving time for the Clerk for Perfunctory Session. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', those opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes have it, and the House does now stand adjourned."
"Committee Reports. Representative Leverenz, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations I, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 29, 1987 reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bill 453 and Senate Bill 580. Representative O'Connell, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary II, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 29, 1987 reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' Senate Bills 38, 115, 116, and 260; 'do pass as amended' Senate Bills, 65, 126, and 201. Senate Bills, First Reading. Senate Bill 12, offered by Representative Flinn, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Notary Public Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 206, Wennlund, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to authorize Public Corporations to issue bonds. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 236, Greiman, a Bill for an Act in relation to Pensions. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 256, LeFlore and Jones, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 279, Keane, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailers Occupation Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 356, Rea, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to Clerks of Courts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 419, Van Duyne, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 434, Phelps, a Bill for an Act making certain Appropriations. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 483, Churchill, a Bill for an Act in 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 relation to Counties. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 516, Terzich, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create Sanitary Districts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 531, Slater, a Bill for an Act in relation to Property Record Systems. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 574, Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 586, Terzich, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create Sanitary Districts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 617, Slater, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 630, Greiman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 646, Curran and Breslin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Capital Development Board Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 724, Novak, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Bill 728, Countryman, a Bill for an Act relating to the Appointment of Temporary Guardians for Certain Persons. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 745, Van Duyne, a Bill for an Act to amend the law to provide for Elected County Superintendents of Highways. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 772, Williams and Jones, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act requiring the attachment of pamphlets about Fetal Alcohol Syndrome to Marriage License. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 774, Levin, a Bill for an Act to amend the Electric Supplier Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 981, Black, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Enterprise Zone Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 993, Preston, a Bill for an Act to amend the Community Mental Health Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1014, Phelps, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Job Training Coordination Counsel Act. 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day May 29, 1987 First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1022, Berrios, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Health Finance Reform Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1033, McGann, a Bill for an Act to amend the State Occupation and Use Tax Acts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1057, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Act on the Aging. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1085, Homer, a Bill for an Act to revise various Acts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1102, Anthony Young, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Consortium for Educational Opportunities Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1192, Terzich, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1207, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1208, Hannig, a Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 711, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act relating to Pensions. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1215, Flowers, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1229, Cullerton, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1272, Leverenz and Steczo, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1273, Ryder, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1354, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1365, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1369, Wennlund, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1370, strike that, no Sponsor yet. Senate Bill 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day 1373, Brunsvold, Criminal Procedure. May 29, 1987 a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1375, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1381, DeJaegher, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1399, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to pre-trial services. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1405, O'Connell, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1409, Dunn, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1412, Dunn, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1432, Bowman, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1436, Farley, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1443, Terzich, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to certain Felonies. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1447, McGann, a Bill for an Act relating to Taxes and Fees. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1449, Kulas, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Registration of Underground Storage Tanks. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1483, Speaker Madigan, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Chicago Park District. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 782, Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to establish Regional Service Agency Fellowship Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 827, Giorgi, a Bill for an Act in relation to Firearms. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 385, Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to Clerk of Courts. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1355, Giorgi, a Bill for 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 54th Legislative Day an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. the Bill. May 29, 1987 First Reading of Senate Bill 1370, Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1425, Giorgi, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 731, Deucher, a Bill for an Act to Legalize and Validate Certain Appropriations and Tax Levy Ordinances for the City of Aurora. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 473, Hensel, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 690, McCracken, a Bill for an Act to amend the Land Trust Recreation and Transfer Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. There being no further business, the House now stands adjourned." 42 07/13/87 08:28, STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 29, 1987 PAGE 1 HB-0773 THIRD READING PAGE 5 HB-0783 RECALLED PAGE 5 HB-0783 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-1774 THIRD READING PAGE 9 SB-0012 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0206 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0236 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0256 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0279 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0356 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0385 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-0419 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0432 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-0434 FIRST READING PAGE 38 SB-0473 FIRST READING PAGE 42 SB-0483 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0516 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0531 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0574 FIRST READING PAGE 39 S3-0586 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0617 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0630 FIRST READING PAGE 39 S6-0646 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0690 FIRST READING PAGE 42 SB-0711 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-0724 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0728 FIRST READING PAGE 39 S3-0731 FIRST READING PAGE 42 SB-0745 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0772 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0774 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0782 FIRST READING PAGE 41 S3-0827 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-0981 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-0993 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-1014 FIRST READING PAGE 39 SB-1022 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1033 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1057 FIRST READING PAGE 40 S3-1085 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1102 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1192 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1207 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1208 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1215 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1229 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1272 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1273 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1354 FIRST READING PAGE 40 S3-1355 FIRST READING PAGE 42 SB-1365 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1369 FIRST READING PAGE 40 SB-1370 FIRST READING PAGE 42 SB-1373 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-1375 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-1381 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-1399 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-1405 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-1409 FIRST READING PAGE 41 S3-1412 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-1425 FIRST READING PAGE 42 Sa-1436 FIRST READING PAGE 41 S3-1443 FIRST READING PAGE 41 S3-1447 FIRST READING PAGE 41 SB-1449 FIRST READING PAGE 41 07/13/87 08:28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 29, 1987 SB-1483 FIRST READING HR-0142 ADOPTED SJR-0058 ADOPTED PAGE 2 PAGE 41 PAGE 16 PAGE 37 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER REPRESENTATIVE GREIMAN PRAYER REVEREND MARY KATHERINE PIERCE PAGE 1 PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CAL I FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 INTRODUCTION REPRESENTATIVE BILL PASANOTTI, PAGE 2 NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE PAGE 2 INTRODUCTION STEWARDSON-STRASBURG HIGH SCHOOL PAGE 3 GIRLS VOLLEYBALL TEAM PAGE 3 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 4 GENERAL RESOLUTIONS PAGE 4 MEMORIAL DAY SERVICE PAST REPRESENTATIVE DIPRIMA PAGE 24 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 36 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 37 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 38 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 38 PERFUNCTORY SESSION AD JOURNMENT PAGE 42