"Members will be in their seats. The Chaplain for today will be Reverend Mike Roberts from First Baptist Church in Fairmont. Reverend Roberts is a guest of Representative Black. The guests in the balcony may wish to rise and join us in the invocation."
"Let's pray. Father as we come into Your presence today, we pray that You would humble us for You are the Almighty God. We thank You for America for the privileges we have in this coun...and that we enjoy. Father, thank You for these whom You've placed in authority. God let us uphold them and let us keep them before You in prayer. Today our Father give them discernment. Give them patience. Give them understanding. Give them peace within. And Father as we live in a world today that is full of chaos and turmoil and mankind seeks peace, we pray that the message of Christ our Savior would be soundly put forth. Let us all, even in this place today, realize that the only true peace within our hearts can come from knowing Jesus Christ by faith. Thank You for the privilege of being in this place today, Father. Bless these, those who serve us and let us serve them we pray in Jesus name. Amen."
"Be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by the Lady from DuPage, Representative Cowlishaw."
"I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Giglio."
"Let the record show, Mr. Speaker, that we have three excused absences. Representative Braun, Representative 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 Christensen, due to illness. And Representative Flinn. A death in the family."
"Thank you. Representative McCracken."
"May the record reflect the excused absence of Representative Ropp."
"Clerk will take the record. 113 Members answering the Roll Call, a quorum is present. Page 20 of the Calendar. Consent Calendar, Second Reading, Second Day. Mr. Clerk read the Bills."
"Consent Calendar's Second Reading, Second Day House Bill 1732, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code, together with Committee Amendment #1, Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3068, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3343, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create the State University's Civil Service System. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3444, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3485, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3620, a Bill for an Act in relation to petroleum storage tanks, together with Committee Amendment #1. Second Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3681, a Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. Second Reading of the Bill."
"Third Reading. Introductions and First Reading."
"House Bill 4287, offered by Representative Phelps, a Bill for an Act to add Sections of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. First Reading of the Bill."
"Representative... Representative Kulas."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to use the Attendance Roll Call to waive the posting rules for three 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 Bills, which we inadvertently forgot to post in the Energy and Environment Committee. I cleared this with the Minority Spokesman. The Bills are 4152, 4153, and 3862. I would like to waive the posting rules so they can be heard tomorrow in Energy and Environment."
"The Gentleman moves to waive the posting requirements, for 4152, 4153 and 3862, so they can be heard tomorrow in the Energy and Environment Committee. Hearing no objections, Attendance Roll Call will be used. Motion carries. The Bills will be heard tomorrow. Representative Terzich."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'd like leave for Attendance Roll Call to hear House Bill 4195 and 4199, in the Executive
Committee tomorrow. Speaker McPike: "Gentleman moves to waive the posting requirements for 4195 and 4199 for Executive Committee tomorrow. It has this been cleared with the other side? Hearing no objections. Leave is granted. The posting requirements are waived. The Bills will be heard in Executive Committee. Representative O'Connell."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to waive the posting requirements for House Bill 3197. That's before House Judiciary II Committee."
"You've cleared this with the Minority Spokesman?"
"I haven't cleared it with the Minority Spokesman. It is a Minority Members Bill."
"Alright. The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 3197 for Judiciary II Committee. Hearing no objections, leave is granted. The Attendance Roll Call will be used. The Bill will still be posted and heard. Representative Kulas."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There's one more Bill that I'd 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 like to waive the posting rule. I just talked to the Minority Spokesman for Energy and Environment is 4191."
"The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting requirements for House Bill 4191. Any objections? Hearing none, leave is.... Representative McCracken."
"Have you checked with anyone on this?"
"Yes, he said it cleared with the Minority Spokesman."
"Okay, I couldn't hear him. Thank you."
"Hearing no objections. Leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call will be used. Motion carries, the Bill will be heard tomorrow. Representative Dunn."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise to request that the appropriate rule be waived SO that House Bill 4227, House Bill 4227, may be heard tomorrow morning in House Judiciary I. This Bill, unfortunately, did not come out of rules until, I think last Thursday, and we did not have time, at that time, to get it assigned to committee. So I would ask for leave so we can hear that Bill tomorrow."
"The Gentleman asks leave...waive, the Representative McCracken."
"Did he...did he check with anyone on our side? Can...can you have someone check before you make this request?"
"Representative Dunn."
"I don't know that there has been a...a check."
"Well, why don't you give us the courtesy of that, and we'll get this put away."
"Representative Dunn, I think an objection has been raised."
"Alright, we'll wait. Go talk to him."
"...have another Calendar. House Bill Second 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day Reading Short Debate. Representative Dunn. Dunn." May 3, 1988
Representative Dunn: "Let's try House Bill 4227, we're posting in 'Jud' I tomorrow. Minority Spokesman has indicated to the Sponsor of Legislation that he has no objection to it being heard in Committee tomorrow. So, with that I..."
"The Gentleman moves to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 4227 so it can be heard in Judiciary I Committee. Any objections? Hearing none. Leave is granted. The Roll...Attendance Roll Call will be used. Motion carries. Page 11 of the Calendar. House Bill Second Reading Short Debate appears House Bill 2906. Representative McNamara. Is Representative McNamara here? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 2906, a Bill for an Act concerning land titles. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted previously."
"Any Motions filed?"
"No Motions filed."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Has the State Mandates Act Fiscal Note been filed?"
"The State Mandates Act Fiscal Note is filed."
"Third Reading. Representative O'Connell."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, may I have leave at this time to waive the posting requirements in the Rules Committee for House Bills 4233 and House Bill 4234? I con...conferred with the Minority Spokesman and there is no objection."
"The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting requirements for the House Bills 4233 and 4234 can be heard in Rules this afternoon. Any objections? Hearing none the 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 Attendance Roll Call will be used. Leave is granted. The Motion carries and we will announce a rules Meeting shortly. House Bill 3072. Representative Hensel. Out of the record. House Bill 3249. Representative Hensel. Read the Bill Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 3249, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. The Rules Committee will meet immediately in the anti room behind the House Chamber. Would all Members of the Rules Committee please assemble. They assemble now, we only have two Bills. Representative Matijevich has moved that we waive the appropriate rules so that the Rules Committee can meet while we're in Session. Is there any objections? Hearing none, the Attendance Roll Call will be used. The rules are waived and the Rules Committee will meet immediately. House Bill 3289. Representative Dunn. Out of the record. House Bill 3294. Representative Stern. Out of the record. House Bill 3513. Representative Homer. Representative Homer here? Out of the record. House Bill 3519. Representative Richmond. Read the Bill Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 3519, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Farm Development Act. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative McCracken and Cowlishaw."
"Representative McCracken. Amendment #1."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The Bill as originally drawn provides for the 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 transfer of certain loan guarantee funds into the Farm Emergency Assistance Fund to the Illinois Farmer and Agri Business Loan Guarantee Fund. The Loan Guarantee Fund is a reserve fund, not appropriated from all it does is serve to secure low-interest loans made or grants made on behalf of the State to certain farmers. This Bill does not increase the authorization of those funds, which may be guaranteed, so in...effect will have no impact on the decision or the ability to extend guarantees on other loans. For that reason any transfer into this fund would be a waste of our, our money. We're not talking about withdrawing any authority, merely how much reserve we should set aside. This reserve is not necessary. Therefore, Amendment #1 proposes to transfer that fund or that...monies to this Common School Fund that that receive the transfer, rather than the Illinois Farmer and Agri Business Loan Guarantee Fund. And I move its adoption."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. And on that Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, would the Sponsor yield?"
"Yes."
"Representative, I understand that this is Amendment #1. You also have an Amendment #2 that's been filed that would purport to amend the Bill by requiring that any funds in the Farm Emergency Assistance Fund, at the end of the of the fiscal year, would go to the General Revenue Fund. And this Amendment does the same thing, but transfers that money to the Common School Fund, which Amendment..."
"I prefer this Amendment. I think education should be the top priority."
"I see. Now, as I understand the original purpose of the Bill, the original purpose of the Bill is to provide a secondary source of financing. So as to encourage local 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 private farm lenders to become more active participants in farm credit. That's what the purpose of the Bill is. And at what your Amendment would do would be to delete the main provision of the original Bill authorizing this transfer, so that the Emergency Fund could made no transfers and only funds appropriate to the original purpose could be used. So, in other words, it appears that you don't like the Bill. And that your kind of gutting the Bill. Unless I'm misunderstanding the purpose of your Amendment."
"I think, I think maybe you've...you misconstrue it. We are advised that this will not have any impact on the amount of loans that can be made. This is a reserve type fund and the purpose of the fund is to secure guarantee loans. The authorization to do so is not affected by this Bill. As a matter of fact, in our opinion, the money is transferred into this fund and serves no purpose. The amount of loans that can be guaranteed is not affected. It will be idle money, that's all."
"Now, the...under current law the Farm Development Authority is authorized to transfer an amount of $10,000,000.00 from available appropriations to the Illinois Farmer and Agri Business Loan Guarantee Fund to secure State loan guarantees each year. That's what the current law is. The Farmer Emergency Assistance Fund is being repaid its loans to these distressed farmers at the rate of about a half-million dollars per year. But there's no internal transfers between these funds authorized by law. That's what the purpose of the Bill is to authorize internal transfers between these funds. The Bill that Representative Richmond is proposing, proposes to allow secondary infusion of financing into this guarantee fund. By allowing annual internal fund transfer. What your Amendment does is to eliminate that purpose of the Bill 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 providing for this internal fund transfer and, as a result, it has the effect of gutting the Bill. So, I would think that the best way to react to the Bill would be simply to oppose it, rather than purposing this Amendment. So for that reason, I would urge a 'no' vote on the Amendment Mr. Speaker."
"Representative Richmond."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I too rise in opposition to the Amendment for the same reasons that Representative Cullerton has SO thoroughly explained. The Bill would correct Legislation and provide a means to build the fund balance to adequate levels for our Agri Industries Program. And this transfer of the funds would provide further assurance to the lenders that ample funds would be available for losses, if the need arises and further encourage the use of the program. We know that this is an excellent program and this...this Bill that without the Amendment that's been proposed is a step in the direction of making, giving them more flexibility to make it even a better program. I oppose the Amendment and urge a 'no' vote."
"Representative McCracken to close."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Illinois Farm Development Authority does not agree with what the Sponsors position is to what this Bill does and what its import is. The Farm Development Authority says that this has no impact on the amount of loans guaranteed. It has no impact on the quality of the guarantee. And if you look at the current law that's unaffected by either this Bill or its Amendment, you'll see that even where there are less than $10,000,000.00 funds appropriated to that fund, it does not affect the amount up to which guarantees can be made. This money is not going to any useful purpose. It shouldn't be 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 controversial here where we should be spending our money. The money sits in a reserve fund and if you transferred it automatically you make that much less unavailable to areas where it can serve a useful function. It's strictly a reserve fund. The Farm Development Authority is very clear on that. They have no...they do not agree with the Sponsor that the amount of funds in the reserve at any particular time is important to the success or even the maintenance of the program. For that reason, I think we should be supporting the Amendment."
"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor of the Amendment signify by voting 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Cowlishaw, explain your vote."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I am voting in favor of this Amendment, because the Amendment provides that these monies, for which there is currently no use whatsoever, which simply lie dormant. This Amendment provides that that money goes to the Common School Fund. The school children of this State will benefit from adoption of this Amendment. Our schools need this money."
"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Motion there are 52 'ayes', and 61 'nos'. Amendment #1 fails. Further Amendments."
"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative McCracken and Cowlishaw."
"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #2. Further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Mr. Clerk has a fiscal note been filed?"
"The fiscal note is filed." 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988
"Third Reading. House Bill 3546. Representative O'Connell. Representative O'Connell here? Read the Bill Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 3546, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedures. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. ... of the Calendar. House Bills Second Reading. House Bill 80. Representative...Representative McCracken."
"Point of order, Mr. Speaker, we should be taking up on this where we last left this order of business, the last Second Reading Bill we did was 3100. Pursuant to Rule 39(a), we're required to take up this order again immediately after that Bill. Which in this case would be the bottom of page 12. House Bill 3109."
"Committee Reports. Mr. McCracken, I'll get right back to you on that."
"Committee on Rules has met pursuant to Rule 29(c)3. The following Bills have been ruled exempt on May 5, 1988. House Bills 4233 and 4234, signed John Matijevich, Chairman."
"Representative O'Connell on a motion to waive the posting rules. Representative O'Connell."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On House Bill 4233, I would request leave of the House to suspend the posting notice for House Bill 4233 and ask that it be sent to Higher Education."
"4233 and 34?"
"And 34, yes."
"Yes, these Bills have been assigned to Higher Ed. The Gentleman has asked... These are the two Bills 11 98th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1988 that were just heard in Rules Committee a few minutes ago. They have been assigned to the Higher Ed Committee. The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting requirements so they can be heard in Higher Education this week. Are there any objections? Does anyone raise an objection to that point? Hearing no objections, the Attendance Roll Call will be used. Leave is granted. The Motion carries. The Bills will be heard this week. Representative Steczo."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would move to waive the posting notice so that House Bill 4208 can be heard tomorrow evening in the Select Committee on local school district reorganization. I believe that the Republican Spokesperson has been spoken with and there's no objection."
"The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 4208 so it can be heard tomorrow in school reorganization. Any objections? Hearing none. Leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call will be used. The Motion carries. Representative Terzich."
"Mr. Speaker, I would like to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 3278 for the Executive Committee to be heard tomorrow morning. It's been approved on the other side of the aisle."
"The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 3278. Hearing no objections. Leave is granted. Attendance Roll Call will be used. Motion carries. Representative McCracken, in answer to your point of order, Rule 39(a) says that we will return to the order of business at the point that we left and the following paragraphs says however the Speaker has discretion shall et cetera, et cetera given the Chair and a leeway to go to which ever order of business the Chair sees fit to proceed to. So your point is not well taken. 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day
Speaker Madigan in the Chair." Speaker Madigan: attention I May 3, 1988 "Ladies and Gentlemen, if we could have your if the staff would please retire to the rear of the chamber. Would the Members please be in their chairs. Staff will please retire to the rear of the chamber. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are very honored today to have the Secretary of State, Mr. Edgar, bring a very special guest to our Chamber. He has brought the Ambassador to the United States from the country of India. Before Mr. Edgar does the introduction, would like to introduce some special guests in the gallery. First there is the wife of the Ambassador, Mrs. Kaul. With her...with her we have the wife of Secretary Edgar, Brenda Edgar. Brenda. And we also have the Council General of India assigned to the City of Chicago, Mr. LaHiri. Mr. LaHiri. And now let me give you Secretary Edgar for the introduction.
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 8,000,000 people, the Republic of India, is the world's largest democracy. Census figures show that in a few years, India might surpass China as the world's populous country. Mr. Edgar." With more than most If the world wants to look to the future, they should look to New Delhi. As their Ambassador to our country, India has given us one of its most respected and distinguished public servants. Mr. P. K. Kaul has served India in a variety of important posts. Cabinet Secretary, Finance Secretary, Secretary of Economic Affairs, Defense Secretary and Commerce Secretary. His education, like his career, has spanned both of our countries. He studied both in India and at Harvard. Now as Ambassador, he is making a special effort to know the American people by visiting them where they live. He knows, as we do, that our Countries share a common democratic heritage. And we share even more than that. We 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 are two Republics who won independence from Great Britain after a long difficult struggle. In India, many school children study Lincoln. In our country, many American school children study Ghandi. We continue learning from each other and profitting from our friendship today. Over 50,000 people of Indian origin live here in Illinois. As major trading partners, there are strong economic ties bonding the two Countries. Our two Countries are already old friends. Ambassador Kaul is here to strengthen that friendship. I want to thank Speaker Madigan and Members of the House for allowing Ambassador Kaul the opportunity to address you today. And again remind House Members that they are invited, following his remarks, to the Secretary of State's Office for a reception in honor of the Ambassador. Ladies and Gentlemen, it's my pleasure now to present to you the Ambassador of India to the United States, Mr. P. K. Kaul." Kaul, P. K.: "Thank you very much indeed. Mr. Speaker, honorable Representatives, Secretary of State Jim Edgar. It is a great honor for me to be here today to address the Illinois House of Representatives. I would like to especially thank Secretary of State Jim Edgar and the Speaker and all of you, for providing this opportunity to meet you all. To most Indians, the best known figure from American History is Abraham Lincoln. And Lincoln came from Springfield. His ideas on the quality...and liberty and equality for all very deeply influenced India's freedom movement. Some of the early contacts between India and the United States were made in Illinois. ..., who later became a great religious figure, addressed the Parliament to religions of Chicago in 1893. His speech made an enormous impact. A very active ... without a society exists even today in Chicago. Similarly, the poet..., who won the Nobel Prize for 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day Literature in 1913. Sent his son to Illinois for training in agricultural science, instead of Oxford or Cambridge. With the upper-classes of India then considered the natural thing to do. To understand free India's policies, one has to bear in mind a domestic compassions and external environment. In 1947, when we attained our independence, the first task was to complete and consolidate the forces of national integration. The problem was compounded by the Pakistan attack on Kashmir, which had exceeded to India. If for not simply a limited territorial question, but also a test of our commitment to secularism. The U. S. stand on this issue did influence initial Indian perception of America. Economic development was adopted as a national priority. India in 1947 was an essentially an agrarian economy, yet we were determined to industrialize. Towards existing problems, were added the burden of resettling millions of refugees. And the industrialization process was to take place within the fabric of a liberal democracy. India's leaders felt that the only method of achieving this objective was to resort the economic planning. If one looks at it logically, it was a rational thing to do. To prioritize and to then distribute scarce resources among competing demands. Obviously, there were going to be sectors where returns on investments were not quick and where the State needed to intervene. Similarly, there were regions in the country which were less developed and where the government needed to tally resources. This philosophy of national economic development, unfortunately, was not often appreciated. It was regarded as Socialism and thus dangerous to American interests. These judgments translated themselves into policy actions and into denials of Indian requests for of American technology. To set up steel plants in 'Belai' and 'Buchar i'. Soon after May 3, 1988 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 attaining independence, the elected national leaders formed a constituent assembly to prepare a new constitution. Various patents of government were studied and democracy was adopted as a basic form, that would govern Indian political systems. Not many people are aware that the constitution of India also starts with the words 'We the people of India' and then goes on to describe how this sovereign democratic republic desires to secure to all its citizens, justice, social, economic and political, liberty of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship. Equality of status and of opportunity. And to promote among them all fraternity assuring the dignity of the individual and the unity of the nation. In the relations have, therefore, to be seen in the above background. One has to recognize the common objectives that bind the two Countries, and the way in which differences over time have arisen and have been handled. Most independent India believes that peace is essential for economic development. Involvement with power blocks intended to heighten international tensions. I understand that here too, the founding fathers of the new republic, decided to stay away from the corners of the old world. Indian policies, too, grew out of its experience of colonial rule which included racial discrimination. Hence, Indian foreign policy always provided leadership in the struggle against colonialism and apartheid. Indian political leaders not only thought of independence, for India itself, but also helped many other countries to free themselves from the colonial yoke. Instead of this being applauded, it was misunderstood. Particularly in the background of the cold war atmosphere. In the last four decades, India has struggled to overcome these differences. The larger measure of maturity has also suffered in our relationship. Our capacity to understand 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 differing viewpoints rises from the positive aspects of our relationship. There are many things for which India is grateful. The two Countries also shared an interest in keeping the sub-continent free from external intrusions. Most would like to maintain the territorial integrity of the countries of the region. Prime Minister Indira Gandhi's visit in 1982, provided an appropriate occasion to reaccess our relationship. Each felt the need for diversifying and developing bilateral relations on a more enduring and self-sustaining basis. Based on discussions an agenda was developed. This was further improved upon during the visit of the Indian Prime Minister Raja Gandhi, in June, 1985 and then again in October, 1987. The most promising areas of interaction were identified in the fields of science and technology. These, as everybody knows, are basic to development and growth. These have to be harnessed to improve the quality of life of the people and to bring to them the benefits of development. The science and technology initiative was started in 1982, and has continued until 1988. When Prime Minister Raja Gandhi visited Washington in October of 1987, the agenda prepared earlier in 1985 was reviewed and to the satisfaction of both parties it was found that all the items had been satisfactorily implemented. Accordingly, the leaders of the two Countries, decided to continue the science and technology initiative for a further three-year period beyond 1988. It was to include subjects like material sciences, ocean sciences, public health, and monsoon research. The sale of super computers ushered in a new era. Further new areas of cooperation were identified. These included not only an expansion in trade, but certain qualitative transformation, as well. The private sectors of two countries were asked to meet and submit 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 recommendations to increase opportunities for enhanced trade and investment. President Reagan and Prime Minister Gandhi also discussed the need to reduce trade barriers and place themselves to stand firm against pressures that increase protectionism. The two countries also signed what was described and called as a ...of understanding. It was to govern the transfer of high technology items. Since then high tech trade and collaboration has increased substantially. Today, India ranks fourth in export licenses issued by the United States. Its last year alone were worth dollar 1.2 billion. The success of the high tech relationship has encouraged efforts to expand cooperation in the defense sectors, as well. India already has underway a defense, but just diversification. We are working with the U. S. companies now, on an aircraft program, and on the development of test ranges. A large number of U. S. companies are involved in this program and the potential for further expansion is large. Agricultural development of India has been a success story. American agri-scientists have made substantial contributions to India's green revolution. The two leaders, therefore, decided to augment cooperation in this field by including the search projects for the enhancement of output and productivity in outer zones. Better water management and a more effective evaluation of ground water resources. Other subjects earmarked for collaboration are education and culture where new possibilities are to be explored. For improvements of society, control of drugs and narcotics is a significant item on the agenda of the two Countries. We will work together, closely, to control the distribution channels of these substances. And also to work on a program of the rehabilitation of drug users. There has been increasing interaction with your state in particular. 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 I understand there are about 50,000 persons of Indian origin here. They have made their contribution in different fields, medicine, engineering sciences, engineering, sciences, et cetera. They are involved in the political processes too. We hope they are useful to the community they have chosen to adopt. I should like, through you, to convey our appreciation to the people of Illinois for their kindness and generosity of spirit. We are hoping that the political leaders of the state can visit India with a group of leading Illinois businessmen. Exchange of visits, participation in trade fairs here and in India, are some of the ways for strengthening trade relations. I should like to convey, through you, the warm wishes of the people and the government of India, for the success and prosperity of the people of Illinois and the United States. Thank you very much."
"On behalf of the Members of the House, I would like to thank the Ambassador for his remarks and to tell him that we in our individual capacity and in our representation capacity of our citizen's wish to pledge to him our willingness to work cooperatively with the people of India and to foster better relations between his country and our state. Mr. Ambassador, thank you very much. I would also like to remind you that the Secretary of State will be hosting a reception in his office at 1:30. Thank you. Mr. McPike. Representative Breslin."
"House Bill 80. Out of the record. House Bill 997. The fiscal note has not been filed. Out of the record. House Bill 1305. Representative Cowlishaw. Do you wish to have this Bill heard on Second? Out of the record. House Bill 1809. Representative Currie. Is the Lady in the chamber? Out of the record. House Bill 1820. Representative Ropp. Out of the record. House Bill 1911. 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day Representative Sieben. Clerk read the Bill." May 3, 1988
"House Bill 1911, a Bill for an Act to revise the law in relation to notices. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."
"Any Motions or Amendments?"
"No Motions filed. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Sieben."
"Representative Sieben."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 deals with the publication of quadrennial assessments lists by our counties every four years. And what we've done in Amendment #2 is give the counties the option to publish a notice in the newspaper informing the residents of that county where these assessment lists are available and the county now by resolution can made these lists available, rather than having to go to the great expense of publishing these lists in their papers. It provides for the availabi...availability of complete lists at the public libraries in the counties and then any resident who would like to have a copy themselves can contact the office and receive a copy through the mail."
"Excuse me Representative Sieben. Representative Young, for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Madam Speaker, has this Amendment been printed and distributed?"
"Mr. Clerk. Has Representative Sieben's Amendment been printed and distributed?"
"I've got...It's on our desk."
"It has been printed and distributed, Representative Young."
"Copies are on our desk today." 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day
"Very good. Proceed Representative." May 3, 1988
"That's the essence of the Amendment and I would move its adoption."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2, to House Bill 1911. And on that question, is there any discussion? Any discussion? Representative Homer."
"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Representative Sieben, I know you just explained the Amendment. Who...where did this Amendment come from? Who's instance is it being offered?"
"The Amendment has been worked out here after visiting with Supervisor of Assessments in Knox County and Henry County regarding the implications of the Bill."
"And explain again if you would, briefly, what does the Amendment do?"
"The Amendment provides an option for counties that the county board by Resolution can make a determination to either publish the quadrennial reassessment list or make copies of that list available to residents of that county if the county board by Resolution determines that it still meets the necessity to provide that information to the public and be accountable to the citizen's of the county."
"Under current law the assessment lists are not made available?"
"Under current law the county is required to publish the quadrennial reassessment list in newspapers that serve the residents of that county."
"Alright, so, the Amendment would simply, in addition, require what...that the...the list be..."
"The Amendment would provide an option, would be permissive in the...to the extent that it would allow the 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 county board to pass a Resolution that they would print, simply a notice in the paper that the list has been printed and is now available. So, if the county board determines that it still wants to go to the expense of publishing the quadrennial list, it can continue to do as its done in the past. If the county board determines that it would be meeting the accountability requirements to the citizens and be a cost savings to the county, they can print the list and have those lists available to citizens in the county. And the Amendment specifies where the complete list would be maintained."
"Is the Illinois Press Association taken a position on your Amendment?"
"The Illinois Press Association, as you might imagine, is an opponent of this Bill."
"Todd, was there a Bill in this form that went to committee, or is this the first time its gone by?"
"Yes. I introduced the Legislation a year ago and it was in committee and at that time the Press Association asked me to put it in interum study, so that they could have time to work with me on the Bill. I didn't hear another thing from the Press Association until I decided to recall the Bill two weeks ago in committee and then they wanted to work with me on it. I have strong support from the counties and townships, municipals."
"Alright, what happened to the Bill in the committee?"
"The Bill was passed out of committee with bipartisan support. I think like 10 to 6 or 10 to 5, something like that."
"I see. Okay."
"I don't have the vote in front of me."
"Alright, thank you."
"Representative Stern." 22 98th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1988
"Will the Gentleman yield?"
"He will."
"Yes."
"There is no population on this, I take it, I mean I can see where it would be very much more practical for a small county than for a large. But an urban county, in order to publish such a list, would...would...if twenty people asked for the list they might as well publish it for a cost."
"Well, not necessarily true. The cost, if I can give an example, for example the county I live in, Henry County, has 26,000 parcels in their assessment. The list for that assessment, quadrennial list, is 350 pages long, which takes about twelve hours to run on to computer. And what my supervisor of assessment is suggesting we do is run that list on a three-part form. Save one copy to make copies on a coping machine with, take the second copy and divide it, subdivide it for the township assessors and make that complete list available to each assessor for the area he assesses, and then the third copy would be maintained in the assessor's office." Stern: "You are suggesting, then, that those lists would simply be available for the citizens to look at, not to take home? Is that correct?"
"That's correct. But there is a provision in the Amendment, that should a citizen call in and want a complete list of his township, for example, so he can do a comparative study, he can request that list and the supervisor of assessment would mail that list back to that person. The assessor would have the right to charge a reasonable fee for duplicating that list and mailing it to him. Now, and if the citizen wants the complete list he could come to the assessor's office. I've also provided the complete list would be available in all public libraries in the district. Where a person could go and 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 look at the list to do a comparison...comparative analysis of their property to others in the area."
"I think you might have a problem, in that any any document that's in the courthouse has to be available for purchase and you might find that you had a bear by the tail when people come in and asking for the complete document. Even though it would pay for itself, you'd be duplicating your head off. I...thank you."
"You're welcome."
"The Gentleman from Kane, Representative Kirkland."
"Will the Sponsor yield, please?"
"He will."
"How does the Amendment change the original Bill? I just can't recall."
"The original Bill was rather broad in the respect that it applied to all types of publishing all types of financial reports by locals, units of local government. This specifically restricts the Bill dealing just to quadrennial assessments lists. The lists that are published once every four years."
"Oh, alright, fine, thanks."
"The Gentleman from Effingham, Representative Hartke. On the question."
"Thank you very much. I stand in support of the Amendment. I think it's a good cost saving measure for the counties and provides accountability, and I think it's a good idea."
"Representative Sieben to close."
"Thank you. This Bill is the result of a study that was done by Senator Rock...Senator Rock had done three years ago, trying to find ways to save our counties money. And the genesis of the Bill came out of Carroll County, 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 Illinois where the county board chairman said 'Is anybody in the Legislature going to do anything about this report on county finances? We need to save some money in our counties and this quadrennial list is certainly a way that we can save some money. And we can make the information available to the citizens in this county at far less expense to the county, then having to publish the complete list in several different papers that serve our county.' So what we're trying to do here is maintain accountability of our assessor to the citizens of the community, but at considerably less expense than the publication in the newspaper of this complete list. So, I would move for the adoption of Amendment #2."
"The question is 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 1911 be adopted'? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill 2910. Representative Kulas. Clerk read the Bill."
"House Bill 2910, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act designated day to be observed as Ukranian American Day. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Excuse me. The fiscal note is filed so the Bill moves to Third Reading. House Bill 2943. Representative Preston. Clerk read the Bill."
"House Bill 2943, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?" 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day
"No Floor Amendments." May 3, 1988
"Third Reading. House Bill 3011. Out of the record. House Bill 3020. Representative John Dunn. Clerk read the Bill."
"House Bill 3020, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Dunn."
"I move the adoption of Amendment #1, which if I recall correctly, simply puts an effective date in the Amendment. This Amendment was suggested by the Secretary of State and I'm in agreement with the Amendment."
"Representative Dunn has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 3020. And on that question the Gentleman from Cook Representative Preston."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Could the Gentleman just explain what a 'ham plate' is?"
"Representative Dunn."
"It's kind of an ethnic thing."
"Thank you, Representative Dunn."
"The question is 'Shall Amendment #1 to House Bill 3020 be adopted'? All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Representative Dunn, a fiscal note has been...Representative Dunn. A fiscal note has been requested, it has not been filed. So the Bill will remain on Second Reading to await for that. House Bill 3027. Representative O'Connell. Clerk read the Bill." 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988
"House Bill 3027, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Floor Amendments?"
"This Bills been read a second time previously. No Floor Amendments."
"Has the fiscal note been filed?"
"Fiscal note has not been filed."
"The Bill will remain on Second...Second Reading. Representative O'Connell. The Bill will remain on Second Reading. House Bill 3056. Representative O'Connell. Clerk read the Bill."
"House Bill 3056. This Bills been read a second time previously. No Committee or Floor Amendments."
"Alright, is the State Debt Impact Note been filed?"
"State Debt Impact Note has been filed."
"Third Reading. House Bill 3074. Representative Hensel. Out of the record. House Bill 3083. Representative Brunsvold. Out of the record. House Bill 3091. Representative Hicks. Representative Hicks. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Out of the record. House Bill 3109. Representative Giglio. Clerk read the Bill."
"House Bill 3109, a Bill for an Act in relation to training of county sheriffs. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."
"Any Motions or Amendments?"
"No Motions filed. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Giglio."
"Representative Giglio on Amendment #2. Representative Mar...Martinez for what reason do you rise?"
"I would just...point of order. I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce to this Body a group of students 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 from my district. They're from the Providence of God's School in the 20th District. And they're up in the gallery. Will the House please give them a hand."
"Thank you. Representative Martinez and other Members should note that introductions should only be made at the...with the permission of the Speaker. Because it interferes with the process of the House. We were right in the middle of an Amendment for Representative Giglio. Representative Giglio proceed."
"Madam Speaker, Amendment #2 just changes the word...deletes the word 'any' and puts 'reasonable'. It was...it was a fee for the sheriffs to attend their annual county convention to get twenty hours of service or twenty hours of training, to let them know what happened during the course of the year. And...the 'reasonable' comes out of the Sheriff's Association and also there's a...the Mandate is filed."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 3109. And on that question is there any discussion? Hearing none. The question is 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative McCracken."
"Representative McCracken."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentleman of the House. This would raise the maximum amount of member of the Cook County Sheriff's Merit Board may be compensated, from $7,500.00 to $10,000.00. Doesn't require the payment, the compensation is up to the county board. The last raise for this category was in 1975, when the 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 amount was raised from $5,000.00 to $7,500.00. I move its adoption."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #3 to House Bill 3109. And on that question is there any discussion? Hearing none. The question is 'Shall Amendment #3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. House Bill on page 13 on your Calendar appears House Bill 3110. Representative Terzich. Clerk read the Bill."
"House Bill 3110, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to prisoners and jails. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."
"Any Motions or Amendments?"
"No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments."
"Third Reading. Ladies and Gentlemen we are now going to go to the order of Consent Calendar, Third Reading, Second Day, for one Bill that needs an Amendment. It appears on page 21, on your Calendar. Page 21 on your Calendar. Consent Calendar, Third Reading. A Bill that needs an Amendment. House Bill 3448. Representative McAuliffe and Ewing. Mr. Clerk read the Bill. Representative McAuliffe asked leave to return this Bill to the order of Second Reading. Does he have leave? Hearing no objections. The Gentleman has leave. Read the Bill on Second Mr. Clerk."
"House Bill 3448, a Bill for an Act in relation to the transfer of various property rights by the State. This Bill has been read a second time, previously. Amendment #1 was adopted, previously." 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988
"Any Motions or Amendments?"
"No Motions filed. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Ewing and Stephens."
"Representative Ewing. Representative Ewing."
"Madam Speaker, did you take it back? I would like to propose an Amendment #2 to this Bill. It does two things. It transfers six acres of flat-bottom land at Pontiac to the American Legion Post there, which is adjacent. And they've been maintaining it and caring for it for the Department of Corrections and then it also does away with the reverter clause on some former land that has already been conveyed in another Member's District."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2 to House Bill 3448. And on that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Cullerton."
"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"
"He indicates he will."
"Representative Ewing, I wondered as spoken to you about this earlier, was any appraisal performed on either one of these parcels?"
"I think the appraisal was only required on the six acre track, and yes it has been filed and it was appraised at $600.00. Total value."
"$600.00."
"$600.00 total value."
"And the transfers for a dollar?"
"Transferred for a dollar. To the American Legion Post."
"Is that tax deductible? That donation of $599.00."
"I think it would be if we pay taxes."
"Okay, thank you."
"The Gentleman from Bureau, Representative Mautino. On the question."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?" 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988
"He indicates he will."
"What is the second parcel of property?"
"It is removing a reversionary clause in property...that has already been conveyed to the City of Maryville. Representative do you understand that the reversionary clause...this land has been conveyed to Maryville. If they don't use it for the purpose that it would revert back. We're taking the reverter clause out."
"Why. I'll take a walk over there."
"Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. The question is 'Shall Amendment #2 to House Bill 3448 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"
"No further Amendments."
"Third Reading. Representative McAuliffe now asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of the Consent Calendar, Third Reading, Second Day. Does he have leave? Hearing no objections, the Gentlemen has leave. Ladies and Gentleman we are now prepared to do the Consent Calendar, Third Reading, Second Day. Mr. Clerk, would you print the Bills?"
"Consent Calendar, Third Reading, Second Day. House Bill 2931, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3055, a Bill for an Act relating to Civic Centers. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3114, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3136, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3284, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3312, a Bill for an Act to amend an 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 Act concerning conveyances. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3395, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3408, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3415, a Bill for an Act to amend the Grain Dealers Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3442, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3448, a Bill for an Act in relation to transfers of various property rights of the State. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3449, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3455, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3489, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to Fire Protection Districts. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3541, a Bill for an Act to create streetlight districts. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3587, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Securities Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 3653, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill.
"The question is 'Shall the Consent Calendar be adopt...be passed?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is the Consent Calendar. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? This is the Consent Calendar. The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are lll voting 'aye', none voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. And all of the Bills on the Consent Calendar are passed. These Bills having received the Constitutional Majority are declared passed. Representative Younge, for what reason do you rise?" 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'll ask leave to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 1277. In the Transportation Committee I have checked with the Chairman and also the Minority Spokesperson and it's okay."
"The Lady has asked leave for to waive the posting requirements on House Bill 1277. And on that question, the Gentleman from DuPage, Representative McCracken."
"We object Madam Speaker."
"Representative Younge, the Republicans object to waiving of the posting rules. Are there any further Motions? Representative Hicks."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask leave of the House to have House Bill 4282 heard today, in the Horse Racing Committee. I have checked with Members of both sides of the aisle. Representative Kubik, who's the Spokesperson and Representative Cullerton, the Chairman of the committee, and they've agreed to that."
"The Gentleman asks leave to waive the posting rules for House Bill 4282. And for immediate consideration of this Bill in committee today. In Aeronotics Committee. Is there any objection? Hearing none. Excuse me, Representative Kubik."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think it's the Horse Racing Committee not the Aeronautics Committee."
"Excuse me. Excuse me. The Horse Racing Committee. Any objections? Hearing none. With leave of the Consent...with use of the Consent Calendar the Gentleman has leave to waive the posting rules. With use of the Quorum Roll Call the rules will be waived for posting of House Bill 4282 and the Bill will be heard in the Horse Racing Committee today. Representative Younge."
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I ask leave to waive the 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 posting requirements on House Bill 1277 so it can be heard in the Transportation Committee. I have..."
"Representative Younge has renewed her Motion for leave to waive the posting requirements for House Bill 1277. Any objection? Hearing none. With leave of the quorum...with use of the...Quorum Roll Call, the Lady has leave to waive the posting rules on House Bill 1277. And the Bill will be heard in committee this week. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution 1326, offered by Representative Kubik; 1328, Johnson; 1329, Slater; 1331, Frederick; 1332, Matijevich; 1333, Matijevich; 1334, Matijevich; 1335, Matijevich; 1336, Harris; 1337, Parke."
"Representative Matijevich, on the Agreed Resolutions."
"Madam Speaker, we have examined the Resolutions, they are agreed to and I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no.' In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Representative Keane for what reason do you seek recognition?"
"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just wanted to clarify some errors on the posting on the Calendar...today's Calendar. The...on page 25, the Revenue Com...Sub Committee on bingo, lottery and games of chance. That should have been posted...and is posted for 8:30 on Thursday morning. And on page 26, the Revenue Sub Committee on income tax posted for 9:00, is a Thursday morning, not a Wednesday morning. It's a Calendar error. And I just wanted to point that out to the Members." 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988
"Thank you, Mr. Keane. General Resolutions. Death Resolutions."
"House Resolution 1327, offered by Representative Lang, with respect to the memory of Irving Fisch and House Resolution 1330, offered by Representative Terzich..."
"Representative Matijevich moves the adoption..."
"House Resolution 1330, offered by Representative Terzich, with respect to the memory of Mary McAvoy."
"Representative Matijevich moves the adoption of the Death Resolutions. All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Death Resolutions are adopted. Introduction First Reading."
"House Bill 4288, offered by Representative Keane, a Bill for an Act making an appropriation to the Cigarette Safety Commission. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 4289, offered by Representative Keane, a Bill for an Act to create the Cigarette Safety Commission and define its powers and duties. First Reading of the Bill."
"Allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk. Representative Cullerton now moves that the House stand adjourned until tomorrow at 12:00 noon. Is there any discussion? Hearing none. The question is 'Shall this House stand adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. And this House is adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow. Although the Clerk will use some perfunctory time. Thank you."
"Perfunctory Session will stand at ease waiting messages from the Senate. Perfunctory Session shall be in order. Introduction and First Reading of Bills. House 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 Bill 4290, offered by Representative Keane, a Bill for an Act concerning fire safety...concerning fire safety and smoking materials. First Reading of the Bill. A message from the Senate...message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in adoption of the following Joint Resolutions, to wit: House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #1, concurred in by the Senate May 3, 1988, by a three fifth's vote. Linda Hawker, Secretary of the Senate. Message from the Senate by Ms. Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate concurred with the House in the adoption of the following Joint Resolution, to wit: House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #13, together with the attached Amendment, thereto, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House, to wit: Senate Amendment #1, to House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #113, passed by the Senate as amended May 3, 1988, by a three fifth's vote. Linda Hawker, Secretary of the Senate. House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #13, as amended by Senate Amendment #1, resolved by the House of Representatives, the 85th General Assembly, the State of Illinois, the Senate concurring herein. That there should be submitted to the electors of the State for adoption or rejection the General Election next occurring, at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution. Proposition to amend Section 8 of Article 9 of the Constitution will read as follows: Article 9, revenue. Section 8, tax sales, (A). Real property shall not be sold for the non payment of taxes or special assessments without judicial proceedings. B. (1) the right of redemption for all sales of real estate for the non payment of taxes or 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 98th Legislative Day May 3, 1988 special assessments except as provided in paragraph 2 and 3 of the sub-section B shall exist in favor of owners and persons interested in such real estate for not less than two years following such sales. (2) the right of redemption from the sale of non payment of taxes or special assessments on a partial of real estate, which (a) is vacant non-farm real estate or (b) contains an improvement consisting of a structure or structures each of which contains seven or more residential units or (c) is commercial or industrial property shall exist in favor of owners and persons interested in such real estate for not less than one year following such sales. (3) The right of redemption from the sale for non-payment of taxes or special assessment of a parcel real estate which (a) is vacant non-farm real estate or (b) contains some improvement consisting of a structure or structures, each of which contain seven or more residential units or (c) is commercial or industrial property, in upon which all or part of the general taxes for each two or more years are delinquent shall exist in favor of owners and persons interested in such real estate for not less than six months following such sales. (C) Owners, occupants and parties interested shall be given reasonable notice of the sale and the date of expiration of the period of redemption as the General Assembly provides by law. Schedule this Constitutional Amendment takes effect upon the adoption by the electors of this state. First Reading of the Constitutional Amendment. As amended on concurrence. No further business. The House now stands adjourned. 37 REPOR 12:40 TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX PAGE 1 08/10/88 HAY 03, 1988 HB-1277 MOTION PAGE 33 HB-1732 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1911 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-2906 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-2910 SECOND READING PAGE 25 HB-2931 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-2943 SECOND READING PAGE 25 HB-3020 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-3027 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3055 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3056 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3068 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3109 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3110 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-3114 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3136 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3197 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-3249 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-3278 MOTION PAGE 12 HB-3284 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3312 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3343 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3395 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3408 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3415 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3442 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3444 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3448 RECALLED PAGE 29 HB-3448 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3449 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3455 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3485 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3489 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3519 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-3541 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3546 SECOND READING PAGE 11 HB-3587 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3620 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3653 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3681 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3862 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4152 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4153 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4191 MOTION PAGE 4 HB-4195 HOTION PAGE 3 HB-4199 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4208 MOTION PAGE 12 HB-4227 MOTION PAGE 4 HB-4233 MOTION PAGE 5 HB-4234 MOTION PAGE 5 HB-4282 MOTION PAGE 33 HB-4287 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-4288 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-4289 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-4290 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HR-1327 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 35 HR-1330 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 35 HJR-0013 FIRST READING PAGE 36 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER REPRESENTATIVE MCPIKE PAGE 1 REVEREND MIKE ROBERTS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 REPORT: TIFLDAY 12:40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 03, 1988 PAGE 2 08/10/88 SUBJECT MATTER ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 CONSENT CALENDAR - SECOND READING PAGE 2 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 11 SPEAKER MADIGAN IN THE CHAIR PAGE 13 INTRODUCTION - SECRETARY OF STATE, JAMES EDGAR PAGE 13 INTRODUCTION - AMBASSADOR P. K. KAUL PAGE 14 REPRESENTATIVE BRESLIN IN THE CHAIR PAGE 19 CONSENT CALENDAR - THIRD READING PAGE 31 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 34 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 35 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 35 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 35 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 36 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 37 REPORT: TIFLDAY 09:02 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 03, 1988 PAGE 1 06/15/88 HB-1277 MOTION PAGE 34 HB-1732 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-1911 SECOND READING PAGE 20 HB-2906 SECOND READING PAGE 5 HB-2910 SECOND READING PAGE 25 HB-2931 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-2943 SECOND READING PAGE 25 HB-3020 SECOND READING PAGE 26 HB-3027 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3055 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3056 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3068 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3109 SECOND READING PAGE 27 HB-3110 SECOND READING PAGE 29 HB-3114 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3136 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3197 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-3249 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-3278 MOTION PAGE 12 HB-3284 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3312 THIRD READING PAGE 31 HB-3343 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3395 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3408 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3415 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3442 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3444 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3448 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3449 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3455 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3485 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3489 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3519 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-3541 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3546 SECOND READING PAGE 11 HB-3587 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3620 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3653 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-3681 SECOND READING PAGE 2 HB-3862 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4152 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4153 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4191 MOTION PAGE 4 HB-4195 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4199 MOTION PAGE 3 HB-4208 MOTION PAGE 12 HB-4227 MOTION PAGE 4 HB-4233 MOTION PAGE 5 HB-4234 MOTION PAGE 5 HB-4282 MOTION PAGE 33 HB-4287 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-4288 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-4289 FIRST READING PAGE 35 HB-4290 FIRST READING PAGE 36 HR-1327 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 35 HR-1330 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 35 HJR-0013 FIRST READING PAGE 36 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - REPRESENTATIVE MCPIKE PAGE 1 REVEREND MIKE ROBERTS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 REPORT: TIFLDAY 09:02 STATE OF ILLINOIS 85TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 03, 1988 SUBJECT MATTER PAGE 06/15/88 2 CONSENT CALENDAR - SECOND READING PAGE 2 INTRODUCTION - SECRETARY OF STATE, JAMES EDGAR PAGE 13 INTRODUCTION - AMBASSADOR P. K. KAUL PAGE 13 CONSENT CALENDAR - THIRD READING PAGE 31 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 34 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 35 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 35 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 36 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 37