Illinois House Floor Debate — May 26, 1989

"The House will come to order. The Chaplain for today is Father John Corredato, from St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Springfield. Father Corredato is a guest of Representative Mike Curran. The guests in the balcony may wish to rise and join us for the invocation this morning."

"Let us pray. Lord God, we take these few moments at the beginning of this important legislative day to reflect on Your goodness to us, the citizens of the State of Illinois. We praise and thank You for Your gift of life to us. May we do all that we can to preserve it and to enhance it. We ask Your continued blessings for those of us elected or appointed to public office. May we come to understand more clearly what it means to serve our brothers and sisters. May we always deserve the trust placed into our hands. We seek Your special guidance that we may be especially sensitive to the poor, the elderly, the afflicted and those who are most forgotten by the system. Give us the idealism and the enthusiasm of our first days of office. Give us the confidence to act decisively. Give us the wisdom to act rightfully. Give us the ability to be kind to all others, for this we can all afford to do always. This is our prayer, Lord, today and everyday, forever and ever. Amen."

"Be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Kubik."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the record reflect that 1  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 Representative Bernard Pedersen is excused for today."

"Thank you. Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, there are no absences on this side of the aisle."

"Take the record, Mr. Clerk. 117 Members answering the Roll, a quorum is present. Agreed Resolutions."

"House Resolution 536, offered by Representative Johnson. 537, Johnson. 539, Young. 540, Krska. 541, Krska. 544, Balanoff. 546, Balanoff. 547, Johnson. 548, Johnson. 549, DeJaegher. 550, Ewing. 551, Stange. 552, Giglio and 553, Giglio."

"Representative Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, these are all of the commendatory nature. I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. Agreed Resolutions are adopted. General Resolutions."

"House Joint Resolution 58, offered by Speaker Madigan. House Resolution 542, McNamara. 543, Young. 545, Black."

"Committee on Assignment. Death Resolutions."

"House Resolution 538, offered by Representative Farley. With respect to the memory of John A. Pulaski."

"Gent... Representative Matijevich moves for the adoption of the Death Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Death Resolutions are adopted. Messages from the Senate."

"Messages from the Senate by Ms. Hawker, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has passed Bills of the following titles, and passage of which I am 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit; Senate Bills number 1445, 1463, 1085, 1089, 1125, 1159, 1165, 1168, 1170, 1172, 1179, 1181, 1196, 1199, 1210, 1217, 1221, 1257, 1258, 1280, 1288, 1294, 1301, 1302, 1303, 1304, 1310, 1313, 1315, 1320, 1325, 1338, 1342, 1347, 1353, 1377, 1388, 1400, 1406, 1407. Senate Bill 4, 8, 16, 27, 45, 51, 52, 60, 63, 85, 86, 111, 113, 118, 119, 125, 145, 151, 171, 181, 194, 204, 219, 237, 249, 260, 307, 344, 376, 394, 395, 448, 454, 457, 471, 492, 507, 508, 884, 904, 911, 914, 917, 925, 927, 929, 933, 934, 935, 937, 938, 939, 948, 950, 952, 955, 960, 961, 963, 976, 981, 984, 986, 988, 989, 994, 1002, 1003, 1017, 1018, 1021, 1023, 1024, 1034, 1036, 1039, 1043, 1046, 1049, 1050, 1052, 1055, 1060, 1069, 1070, 1073, 1074, 1075, 1077, 1079, 1083, 1086, 1088, 1094, 1096, 1098, 1099, 1114, 1115, 1123, 1126, 1127, 1128, 1132, 1147, 1155, 1161, 1173, 1185, 1186, 1197, 1200, 1213, 1214, 1219, 1220, 1222, 1224, 1254, 1255, 1256, 1259, 1262, 1269, 1270, 1276, 1296, 1298, 1305, 1306, 1307, 1311, 1314, 1322, 1323, 1324, 1327, 1328, 1330, 1339, 1344, 1345, 1346, 1348, 1349, 1352, 1354, 1369, 1375, 1376, 1379, 1380, 1382, 1385, 1391, 1396, 1403, 1408, 1414, 1418, 1421, 1422, 1424, 1426, 1428, 1443, 1449, 1450, 1451, 1455, 1456, 1458, 1464, 1465, 1466, 1417, 1425, 1427, 1429, 1431, 1441, passed the Senate May 25, 1989. Linda Hawker, Secretary.'"

"Supplemental Agreed #3, House Bills Second Reading. House Bill 112. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 112. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Cullerton."

"Representative Cullerton, Amendment #1."

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day of the House. Like many Amendments this time of year, this is an agreed Amendment. Among a number of bodies..."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 168, Representative Homer."

"House Bill 168. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 919, Representative Steczo. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 919. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1... Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Good morning, Representative Steczo."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I've been here for awhile. I'm just on a wild goose chase."

"I know."

"Withdraw #1, Mr. Speaker."

"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Representative Steczo."

"Withdraw #2, please." 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

Steczo." May 26, 1989 "Number 2 is withdrawn. Further Amendments?" "Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, Amendment #3 is an agreement between the Illinois Municipal League, the Illinois Department of Transportation..."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1010, Representative Levin. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1010. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 is adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Amendments filed?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1223. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1223. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Ryder."

"Mr. McCracken, would you like to handle this Amendment for Mr. Ryder? Amendment #1."

"I move its adoption. It makes a spelling correction only."

"Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #1. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. 5  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1315. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1315. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Saltsman."

"Representative Cullerton, would you handle the Amendment?"

"Agreed Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Ronan."

"Representative Cullerton."

"It allows for the Department of Transportation's discretion to require an in-depth investigation of accidents involving department employees."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. All... Representative Black on the Amendment."

"Mr. Speaker, I believe that Amendment #2 is out of order and 3 might be the correct one."

"We don't have an Amendment #3, Mr. Black."

"Hang on just a second, I think we do."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, an inquiry of the Chair."

"Yes."

"This might be a Clerk's error. We have two Amendments. Can we get to the LRB number on 2, 3." 6  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Clerk O'Brien: "It ends in wam03."

"wam03." May 26, 1989

"Okay. Alright."

"Is that it? Okay. We have an agreement on that and so Amendment #2, the Gentleman asks for the adoption of Amendment #2. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Representative Black, Mr. Countryman would like an apology. Oh, Cullerton, I'm sorry. Cullerton. Representative Cullerton would like an apology, Mr. Black. Would you turn on Mr. Black, please?"

"I would certainly apologize to Mr. Cullerton who represents the National League Baseball Club that's in first place in the east, as I believe."

"You're out of order, Mr. Black. You're out of order. Third Reading. House Bill 1317, Representative Saltsman. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1317. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments."

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1453, Representative Sutker. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1453. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Sutker."

"Representative Sutker. Gentleman withdraws Amendment #1. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Sutker."

"Mr. Sutker." 7  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #2 takes into account concerns of local governments and other municipal entities with respect to the Bid-rigging Bill we passed last Session."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. Any opposition? Question is, 'Shall Amendment #2 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Sutker."

"Representative Sutker."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #3 is a technical Amendment. It would just correct some syntax difficulties."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1890, Representative DeLeo. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1890. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1983, Representative Granberg. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1983. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2183, Representative Steczo. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

May 26, 1989 "House Bill 2183. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions or Floor Amendments?"

"No Motions filed. No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2363, Representative Cullerton. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2363. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2409, Representative Cullerton."

"House Bill 2409. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2515, Representative Hicks. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2515. This Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Barger."

"Representative Barger. Withdraws the Amendment. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hallock and Churchill."

"Representative Hallock. Mr. Black, would you like to handle the Amendment for Mr. Hallock?"

"I'd be more than happy to, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #2 amends the State Occupation Use Tax to create a sales tax exemption for mulching lawn mowers."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Yes."

"Representative Black, as you know the Majority Leader 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 and the Speaker in the Chair is my seatmate and normally he spends a lot of time talking, telling me about how the Cardinals did. And he hasn't been saying much recently. And maybe it's because we've been working so hard down here..."

"I know, he's been very busy."

"Do you know how the Cardinals have been doing? I...I haven't heard any..."

"Representative Cullerton, we're on Amendment #2."

"Oh, yes, that's right. We would be..."

"The sales tax exemption for mulching lawn mowers. That's the Amendment we're on."

"Yes. Yes. Now, Representative, does this have anything to do, as Representative Churchill said, with mowing the infields of baseball parks or... What do we need...how much does this cost? Isn't it kind of late in the day and early in the morning to be putting sales tax exemptions through?"

"Well, I can't speak for Representative Hallock, maybe this is designed to help out Wrigley Field, because the other ballpark doesn't have any grass. In my district, a mulching lawn mower is a goat. I'm not real sure what this does."

"Well, do you know if this costs anything? It must."

"I would assume that there would be some slight cost, but I don't see any fiscal information attached to this fine Amendment."

"Representative Breslin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I got the message. Ladies and Gentlemen we are opposed to this Amendment. This is a Bill that failed in Committee before we were told that Bills that got on the Consent Calendar should...shouldn't have 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day controversial Amendments proposed to it. May 26, 1989 If it goes on, It's a the Bill comes off the Consent Calendar. high-priced item that has already been rejected by Committee and I urge 'no' votes. Thank you."

"Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think Representative Cullerton was actually hitting the nail on the head. We've done a lot in the last couple years to try and help some of our sports stadiums and to help the people who are involved in professional sports in the State of Illinois. And I think that this is one very small break, a very small cost to the State of Illinois, which when given as a sales tax exemption to those baseball clubs and other sporting organizations that would buy mulching lawn mowers to make sure that the grass on the infield and for high schools, perhaps the grass on the football fields, would remain in good shape SO that none of the kids would get hurt. I think that you know...the opposition of the other party should be overlooked in this instance, because this is really a pro-sports vote."

"Representative Hicks."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'd stand in opposition to the Gentleman's Amendment..."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. 'Nos' have it and the Amendment's defeated. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Capparelli."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to take House Bill..."

"We're not to that Order yet. If you'll just approach the Chair and give us the number, we'll get there. House Bill 2581, Representative Steczo. Read the Bill, Mr. 11  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Currie."

"Representative Currie."

"Further changes recommended by the Department of Public Health."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Currie."

"Ms. Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A final change recommended by the Department of Public Health."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #3. The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. Amendment #3 is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Lady asks leave to return this to Third Reading on the Agreed...Supplemental Agreed #3. No objection. The Attendance Roll Call is used. It's back on Third Reading. House Bill 1476, Representative Steczo. Gentleman asks leave to return it to Second Reading. No objections. Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments to 1476?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Mr. Steczo."

"Withdraw Amendment #3, Mr. Speaker."

"The Gentleman withdraws Amendment #3. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Steczo."

"Mr. Steczo." May 26, 1989

"Mr. Speaker, Amendment #4 represents an agreement between the interior designers and the architects. I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #4. Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return it to Third Reading on the Agreed Calendar. No objections. Attendance Roll Call is used. The Bill's on Third Reading. House Bill 1659. Representative Churchill moves to return the Bill to Second Reading. No objection, the Motion carries. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Williams."

"Representative Williams. Mr. Cullerton, would you handle Amendment #1, please? Representative Churchill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #1 is a Bill that's been worked out on both sides of the aisle. What it does basically, is to create a tenants...a training program for tenants of publicly owned property, so that they can manage the properties."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return it to Third 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Reading on the Agreed List. No objection. May 26, 1989 The Attendance Roll Call is used. It's back on Third Reading. House Bill 2570, Representative Capparelli. to The Gentleman asks leave return it to Second Reading. No objections. The Bill is on Second Reading. Any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Capparelli."

"Representative Capparelli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It just clarifies the Bill by changing the opt out date from September 1st, 1990, December 1st, 1990."

"The Gentleman to moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Gentleman asks leave to return it to Third Reading on the Agreed List. The Attendance Roll Call is used, the Motion carries. It's on Third Reading. Does anyone else have any Bills on this Order? Mr...Mr. Clerk, you can read...read the Bills for third...on Third Reading."

"House Bill 112, a Bill for an Act..."

Speaker McPike: "Representative Didrickson. Excuse me. Representative Didrickson. Do you have a Bill?"

"Yes, I do, Mr. Speaker."

"What's the number?"

"2130."

"House Bill 2130. Lady asks leave to return it to Second Reading. Representative Didrickson moves to return House Bill 2130 to Second Reading. Does the Lady have leave? Leave's granted. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments?" 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Didrickson."

"Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #1 specifies that the funds received from and for the license increase will be deposited in the Youth Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Prevention Fund and also specifies that the funds will be transferred on June 30th."

"Representative Cullerton."

"Well, Representative Didrickson, I think that the Amendment came as a response to the last time the Bill was presented withsome dialogue..."

"That's correct."

"...with Representative Mautino and yourself. I would also tell you though, that there are some Members over here, not me, but some Members over here who are opposed to the Bill. And I think it's on an Agreed List. So, I think we should adopt the Amendment, but I just wanted to let you know that there are some people over here who are..."

"I understand."

"...are opposed to the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino, you want to speak on this Amendment?"

"Mr. Speaker, I would like to echo the sentiments of Representative Cullerton. The Amendment is an Agreed Amendment. The underlying Bill itself, I don't believe, should be on the Agreed Bill List and I'd like to have my colleagues join me in removing it."

"Representative Cullerton can assist you in knocking any Bill off the Agreed List. The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #1. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?" 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"No further Amendments."

"The Lady asks leave to return this to Third Reading on the Supplemental Agreed #3. Representative Giorgi objects. Representative Didrickson, it appears like this Bill's going to be knocked off of the Supplemental Agreed. So there are objections and the Bill then will return to Third Reading and it will appear on a Supplemental Calendar. House Bill 2596, Representative Phelps asks leave to return the Bill to Second Reading. No objections. Leave is granted. Are there any Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Phelps."

"Mr. Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is just a technical Amendment to redefine the population requirement."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Gentleman asks leave to return this to Third Reading on the Agreed Supplemental. Attendance Roll Call is used, the Motion carries. Third Reading. Representative Phelps, do you have any others? Now, House Bill 2130 has been removed from the Agreed list. Mr. Clerk, read the Bills a third time."

"House Bill 112, a Bill for an Act to amend the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 168, a Bill for an Act concerning assistance to medical students. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 919, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to bonds of contractors. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1010, a Bill for an 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Act to amend the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1223, a Bill for an Act designating the state prairie grass. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1315, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1317, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1453, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1890, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the rate of interest. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1983, a Bill for an Act to amend the Wildlife Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2183, a Bill for an Act to amend the Asbestos Abatement Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2363, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2409, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2515, a Bill for an Act to amend the Retailer's Occupation Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2581, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to recorders...records of the State Comptroller. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 17, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the state budget and Appropriation Bills. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 283, a Bill for an Act to amend the Nursing Home Care Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 436, a Bill for an Act to amend certain Acts in relation to child and spouse support collection. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 462, A Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 519, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the adoption of persons. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 572, a Bill for an Act to amend the Vehicle Code. 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 601, a Bill for an Act in relation to certain injuries. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 773, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 790, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to sheriffs. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 929, a Bill for an Act to amend the Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1080, a Bill for an Act in relation to motor vehicle liability insurance. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1091, a Bill for an Act in relation to medical care. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1250, a Bill for an Act to amend the Wildlife Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1270, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to vocational education. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1303, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1395, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1463, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to crimes and crime related information. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1476, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Aeronautics Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1548, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1611, a Bill for an Act in relation to grade and testing. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1659, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. First (sic Third) Reading of the Bill. House Bill 1752, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Alcoholism and other Drug Dependency Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2029, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2081, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 the Bill. House Bill 2130, has been removed from the Agreed List. House Bill 2166, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2265, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2328, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Commercial Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2372, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2431, A Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2452, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. First (sic - Third) Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2544, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2547, a Bill for an Act to amend the Court Reporter's Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2570, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Bank Holding Company Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2596, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning service of process in civil matters. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2671, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2689, a Bill for an Act to amend the Intergovernmental Cooperation Act. Third Reading of the Bill, and House Bill 2729, a Bill for an Act relating to a lien for licensed psychologists. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Now, Representative Steczo has one of these Bills that he would like to bring back to Second Reading, and that would be House Bill 2183. Does the Gentleman have leave? No objections, leave is granted. Are there any Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"House Bill 2183." 20  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Speaker McPike: "Are there any Amendments filed? Steczo, the Amendment's Representative Steczo." May 26, 1989 Representative just now being filed.

"Mr. Speaker, I filed it with the Clerk about fifteen minutes ago. I'm filing additional copies now."

"Well, never mind, we found it."

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Mr. Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment #2 guts the Bill and allows the realtors and 'IPAC' to continue their negotiations on asbestos. I would move for its adoption."

"The Gent... Representative Black is in agreement with the Amendment. Representative Black."

"Yeah. Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. We're in agreement with the Amendment, but just make sure we've got the same LRB number here, since this is rather quick."

"Yes. Good idea. Mr. Clerk, what is the LRB number on that?"

"LRB8604242RBpfam02."

"Thank you. Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #2. All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Someone asked leave to return this to Third Reading on the Agreed Lists and it is now on Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, does it need to be read again?"

"House Bill 2183, a Bill for an Act to amend the Asbestos Abatement Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, John Hallock and I have an important announcement to make and I have an especially important 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 announcement to make, because students from my wife's alma mater are in the Assembly Hall over the...overlooking the Assembly Hall. They're all from the Lincoln Middle School of Rockford, Illinois. Up in that area. Rockford. Lincoln...Rockford. Lincoln Middle School of Rockford, Illinois. My wife's old school."

"Representative Hasara."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will there be an analysis synopsis distributed on these Bills?"

"Mr. Clerk? Yes."

"Thank you."

"The change of vote form for the Supplemental #3 will be here shortly. We will pass out the change of vote forms as we did yesterday. You will have two hours to fill them out and turn them in to the...the Clerk's well. The analysis are being passed out at this moment and the change of vote forms will come shortly thereafter. These Bills having been read a third time, the question is, 'Shall these Bills pass on Supplemental Agreed #3?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. This is a vote on all the Bills on Supplemental #3 with the exception of House Bill 2130, which will appear on a...an additional Supplemental. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. Alright, we will...we will hold the announcements on these Bills now, for two hours and you'll have two hours to turn in the change of vote form. We'll then tally it up and announce rather or not these Bills passed at a later hour. Mr. Clerk, take the record to order, Government Programs. Now with your cooperation...if we could have a little order. With your cooperation, the Chair is going to recognize the Sponsor and recognize an opponent, and if we could try to do this all day, we'll move a lot of Bills. If we can't do it, 22  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 we'll go home at the same time. Mr. Tate, we just won't hear very many Bills. House Bill 227, Representative Giorgi. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Has the Bill been read a second time?"

"House Bill 227 has been read a second time previously."

"Any Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, being offered by Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, the Amendment #2 is to...it's an agreed Amendment between the County Officer's Association, the Illinois Sheriff's Association..."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the agreed Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 227, a Bill for an Act to amend the Act in relationship to the compensation of county officials. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, this Bill provides for a three percent increase in their wages starting after the next election, and agreed to by the Illinois Sheriff's Association and the County Officer's Association. I urge its adoption."

"Does anyone stand in opposition? Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 opposed vote 'no'. Representative Dunn, to explain his vote. No, he's pushed the wrong button, he doesn't want to. Anyone else? Representative Cullerton. Representative Zickus."

"I wanted to explain my vote."

"Proceed."

"I'm voting 'present', because I don't want a conflict. We have a family member that's employed by the Sheriffs."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there's 77 'ayes', 33 'nos', 4 voting 'present'. House Bill 227, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 774. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 774, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create sanitary districts, has been read a second time previously."

"Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, is being offered by Representative Parcells."

"Representative Parcells."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This was for pay increases for the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District. And I thought the pay increases seemed rather hefty and that the President of the Board really wasn't any more important or deserved anymore than the Speaker of the House. And so I have accordingly written those in as a salary schedule that would be similar to the Speaker of the House and the vice-president...and members would be the same as our salary and the vice-president and finance officer would be $42,246, instead of the proposed raise. I think that the sanitary districts do a good job, but that their salaries should not be higher than those of the Speaker of the House and the 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day members should not be higher than our Members. And therefore, I would ask for an 'aye' vote on Amendment #1 to House Bill 774."

"In opposition to the Lady's Amendment? Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, this is in direct...diametrically opposed to what the thrust of the Bill is. All this Bill does, is after the next election, that two new members of the Metropolitan Reclamation District will get a $2,000 raise. And I don't want this Amendment on this Bill, because it changes the thrust of the Bill."

"Question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. 'Nos' have it and the Amendment's defeated. Further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 774, a Bill for an Act...that's correct... House Bill 774, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to create sanitary districts. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, this provides for a $2,000 raise after the next election for members of the met...reclamation district. I urge its adoption."

"Does anyone stand in opposition? Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Giorgi, to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker, I don't know what the reticence is in voting for the Metropolitan Sanitary District's pay program. None of it's state monies. None of it is state monies. It's all paid for by the Reclamation Authority. They...the largest sanitary district in the world are asking for a modest increase. I don't see anything 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 unreasonable with the request. We're going to adjust everyone's salaries and they don't take effect until after the next election. So, I should think that the Members of the General Assembly would support one of the largest governmental entities in the world by granting this minimal stipend."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 56 'ayes', 56 'nos'. Is anyone seeking to change their vote? Representative Cur... Representative Curran, votes 'aye'. Representative Mautino, votes 'aye'. On this Bill there are 58 'ayes', 55 'nos'. Gentleman asks leave for Postponed...Gentleman asks leave for Postponed Consideration. Bill will be put on...Bill will be put on Postponed Consideration. House Bill 910, Representative LeFlore. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 910, on page 3 of the Calendar, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code, has been read a second time previously."

"Any Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions?"

"No Motions filed and no further Amendments."

"Any further Amendments? Any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 910, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois. Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative LeFlore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 910 requires that bus drivers and applicants to be bus drivers, to be tested for drugs. The test should conclude...conducted...be conducted by a 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 laboratory approved by the state. The cost of tests then should subsequently be assumed by the employer. Testing should be conducted for the presence of alcohol and marijuana and other controlled substances. I would like to have a favorable vote on this...on House Bill 910."

"Does anyone stand in opposition? Representative McCracken."

"There is a Bill similar to this, but not the random drug testing proposed by Representative LeFlore. And although we all want safety in our bus drivers, this just goes too far, particularly when there's a solution already. There is a solution which also will be voted on today. I stand in opposition."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 80 'ayes', 31 'nos', 4 voting 'present', and House Bill 910 receiving the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1559, Representative Younge. Read the Bill Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk, has this been read a second time?"

"House Bill 1559 has been read a second time previously."

"Any Amendments?"

"Amendment #2 and 3 were adopted previously."

"Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, is being offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"Representative Younge." Younge, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Amendment #4 is an Amendment that makes a technical correction in reference to the bonds of the Illinois Development Finance..." 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"Lady moves for the adoption of the technical Amendment. Question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and the Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, being offered by Representative Wyvetter Younge."

"Representative Younge." Younge, W.: "Amendment #5 would make it possible for the Comptroller to withhold funds to pay the debt service on the bonds. And I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"Question is,... Representative Stephens, on the Amendment."

"I don't want to delay the process, but could you explain what that means?" Younge, W.: "That means that if the Illinois Development Finance Authority decided to float bonds in order to restructure the debt of a municipality that is financially distressed, they would ask the Comptroller to withhold some of...say the local distributive fund money that...due that municipality to service the debt service on the bonds."

"Does this increase bonding authority at all?" Younge, W.: "No. The Illinois Development Finance Authority has the authority to float bonds. We are giving..."

"I understand that. This in no way increases their ability to increase that?" Younge, W.: "No. No."

"You're sure?" Younge, W.: "I'm positive."

"And then if the...then the Comptroller could step in if...if it couldn't pay the bonds, the Comptroller would step in and take the municipality's money?" Younge, W.: "The...the credit...bonds require credit analysis. In order to remove the requirement for a credit analysis, what 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 is being proposed is, that there be funds due the municipality set aside to retire the debt service on those bonds. And that is what the Amendment does."

"So there would be no credit analysis of the municipality that would be utilizing these revenues?" Younge, W.: "In addition to the credit analysis, there would be the...a possibility and the authority to withhold funds due the municipality under local distributive..."

"You said two things. You said 'In addition to,' just now, but before that..."

"Representative Stephens." Stephens.

Representative Stephens: "Yes."

"We're trying to move along today and I know you'd like to have a nice long dialogue."

"I am too, but I don't want to move bad legislation, Mr. Speaker."

"If you wish to stand in opposition to the Amendment, stand in opposition to the Amendment, but we're just asking for your cooperation, Sir."

"Well, okay. And I want to do that, because I want to get home too, but I tell you what, we have seen a package of legislation to bail out..."

"On the Amendment."

"...distressed municipalities and this is one of those. And we have a lot of questions about them and I thought we could get those answered in an open debate. So if we're not going to have an open debate, we'll just rise in opposition. I'd like a Roll Call. And we're against this Amendment."

"That's absolutely you're privilege. The Gentleman stands in opposition to the Amendment. The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #5. All those in favor 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 of the Amendment say 'aye'. Wait a minute. The Gentleman asked for a Roll Call. All those in favor of the Amendment vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Amendment, there are 63 'ayes', 49 'nos'. The Amendment's adopted. Further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Hicks."

"Mr. Speaker, could we have the electrician back here before Representative Van Duyne gets here. We'd like to fix his switch."

"Would you like to turn it off or on?"

"On. We're having a little trouble with it."

"Thank you. Mr. Electrician, would you see Mr. Van Duyne's switch, please? House Bill 1655, Representative Younge. I'm sorry, House Bill 1559. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1559, a Bill for an Act in relationship to financially distressed municipalities. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Younge."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill would give the Illinois Development Finance Authority the power to help municipalities that are in financial distress, restructure their debt through bonds that are retired by monies that are due the municipality. And I ask for your support on this Bill."

"The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill 1559. And in opposition to that, Representative Stephens."

"Mr. Speaker, inquiry of the Chair. I believe this Bill would preempt to enroll and would that require 71 votes for passage?"

"We will check on the vote requirement and you 30  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 may speak against the Bill."

"Okay. Mr. Speaker, the...with the adoption of Amendment 4, that we did by voice just a few moments ago, the fiscal note on House Bill 1559..."

"Representative Stephens, we adopted Amendment #5 by a Roll Call vote at your request, Sir."

"I did not mention Amendment #5, Sir, I mentioned #4. And with Amendment #4 the...we're talking about a sixteen million dollar cost. We're talking about a Bill that includes this bonding authority and these bonds cannot effectively be sold without a strong state mechanism for credit enhancement. The credit market could not accept the level of risk involved with such distressed municipalities, without a state guarantee of repayment in event of default. And these cities have to be helped, but for us to take the entire burden upon ourselves as a state, is an absolute abomination. We cannot allow legislation like this to get passed. I presume that this needs 71 votes and I would hope that responsible downstate Legislators and Republicans will join us in opposition to this Bill."

"Mr. Stephens, these are IDFA Bonds, they're not backed by the full faith and credit of state. They're not G.O. Bonds. The Bill requires 60 votes. The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1559 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. Representative Phelps, did you want... Phelps 'aye'. On this Bill there are 66 'ayes', 48 'nos', none voting 'present'. House Bill 1559, having received the Constitutional Majority...Yes, I said Phelps, 'aye'. Phelps, 'aye', Mr. Clerk. 67 'ayes'. House Bill 1559, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1655, Representative Younge. The Bill's been read previously. 31  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 Are there any Amendments?"

"House Bill 1655, on page 11 of the Calendar. Amendment 1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Motions or Amendments?"

"No Motions filed and no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1655, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Housing Development Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Younge."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1655 will establish the Federal 235 Program in the Illinois Housing Development Authority. This is a program which essentially puts the interest down to 1% to make the houses affordable for low income people. I've been in discussion with the Illinois Housing Development Authority through its... Lobbyist, Andy Raucci, and we have agreed that this is not the final form of this Bill, but that we will work towards a substantive for low income people that is made available through resources of the state with the Illinois Housing Development Authority. And I move for the passage of the Bill."

"In opposition to the Bill, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The entire concept is flawed, therefore, I stand in opposition to this. And I understand the Lady wants to move out a vehicle Bill so she can address the issue, but it's plain from the Bill and the Amendment what this...what the thrust of the position will be. IHDA is not in the business of supporting people until they determine whether they can afford housing. IHDA is in the business of making low income housing available. Those are two very different tasks and goals. IHDA is not in the 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 business of short term welfare. It is in the business of providing low income housing. It floats bonds for the purpose of making low interest loans available for that purpose. It is not in this business. It's not even a logical extension of IHDA's business. It is seriously flawed, inherently flawed. And I recommend a 'no' vote."

"Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk...will take the record. Representative McCracken, do you ask for a verification? 60 'ayes', 54 'nos', 1 voting 'present'. The Lady requests a Poll of the Absentees."

"-A poll of those not voting. Representative Capparelli and Rice are not voting."

"Mr. Clerk, read the affirmative votes."

"Poll of the Affirmative. Balanoff. Bowman. Breslin. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Cullerton. Currie. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Edley. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Hartke. Hicks. Homer. Lou Jones. Shirley Jones. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Mulcahey. Munizzi. Phelps. Preston. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Santiago. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Trotter. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."

"Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Leverenz?"

"Mr. Leverenz. Mr. Leverenz here? Yeah, he's in the rear."

"Representative Mulcahey?"

"Mr. Mulcahey. Dick Mulcahey. Remove the 33  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Gentleman from the Roll Call."

"Representative Mautino?"

"Mr. Mautino. Dick Mautino. Gentleman from the Roll." May 26, 1989

Remove the McCracken: "Representative Ronan?"

"Mr. Mautino's here. Representative Ronan."

"Where is he?"

Return him to the Roll. Speaker McPike: "He was right there in the rear. Mr. Ronan. Mr. Ronan. Remove Mr. Ronan from the Roll Call."

"Representative Farley?"

"Who?"

"Farley."

"Representative Farley. Mr. Ronan has returned. Return Mr. Ronan to the Roll Call. Mr. Farley. Representative Farley here? Remove him from the Roll Call."

"Representative Shaw?"

"Representative Shaw is in his chair."

"Representative Laurino?"

"Representative Laurino. Mr. Laurino here? Remove him from the Roll."

"Representative DeJaegher?"

"Mr. DeJaegher. Mr. DeJaegher. Remove him from the Roll."

"Representative Brunsvold?"

"Representative Brunsvold. He's right here."

"Representative DeLeo?"

"Mr. DeLeo. DeLeo here? Remove him from the Roll."

"Representative Dunn?"

"John Dunn. Representative Dunn. Remove him from the Roll." 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Representative Shirley Jones?"

May 26, 1989 "Wait a minute, Mr. Dunn is here. Return John Dunn to the Roll."

"Alright. Representative Shirley Jones?"

"She's right up front."

"Okay. Nothing further."

"Nothing further, Mr. McCracken. On this Bill there are 55 'ayes', 54 'nos', 1 voting 'present'. Postponed? The Lady asks leave to place the Bill on Postponed Consideration. It will so be done. House Bill 1784, Representative LeFlore. The Bill's been read a second time. Are there any Amendments?"

"House Bill 1784, Amendment #2 was adopted earlier on May 23rd."

"Any Motions filed?"

"No Motions filed."

"Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 18...Correction, House Bill 1784, a Bill for an Act in relationship to business financing. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. LeFlore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1784 creates the Minority and Female Business Acquisition. The fiscal note says as a minimum expense, it's not a set aside. It's not dealing with state contracts. To build merely, it's for small business and I ask for a favorable vote."

"In opposition to the Bill, Mr. McCracken." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is another attempt to pay lip service to the United States Supreme Court, the same Supreme Court that many of you on that side of the 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 aisle find so wonderful on other issues. You are not complying with the spirit of that case. This is a sham. Moreover, IDFA is not in the business of funding small businesses. It is absolutely the wrong place to go. It's a sham. It should not be passed. I rise in opposition."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 67 'ayes', 49 'nos', none voting 'present'. House Bill 1784, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 947, Representative Cowlishaw. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 947, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Miss Cowlishaw."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 947 simply changes the definition of a Class I County for school purposes from less than one million to less than two million population and a Class II County for school purposes from more than one million to more than two million. The reason for this change is because the County of DuPage is rapidly reaching the point where it will soon be...have a population of one million residents, and the county schools within that county would like to avoid the requirement which now prevails only in Cook County, which is the only Class II County in the state, to use township treasurers for the school districts. The schools in DuPage County do not wish to do that. And therefore, this Bill, it is a very simple Bill. It is not controversial. I move for its adoption."

"Any opposition? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 115 'ayes', no 'nays', none voting 'present'. House Bill 947, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2386, Representative Giorgi. Read the... The Bill's been read a second time. Are there any Amendments?"

"House Bill 2386...It's been read a second time previously."

"You don't want the Bill? Out of the record. How about the next Bill, 2397. The Bill's been read a second time. He doesn't want that one either. Out of the record. Alright, House Bill...2721, Representative Younge. The Bill's been read a second time. Are there any Amendments?"

"Committee Amendment #...House Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any Floor Amendments?"

"No Motions filed and no Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2721, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Younge."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2721 is the Bill having to do with the State Community College in East St. Louis. The College experienced some accounting difficulties. This Bill would call at the next general election for an election of a board and for a local tax to be on the ballot and also an advisory committee made up of the various colleges, the University of Illinois and SIU and some predominantly black universities to help establish the mission and the long range plan for State Community College. And I ask for your support in reference to this 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Bill." May 26, 1989

"In opposition to the Bill, Representative Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. To the Bill, the Illinois Community College Board is in strong opposition to the Bill. I commend the Sponsor for trying to solve a problem that I think all of us are aware is occurring with this State Community College. There are other legislative initiatives underway on this very question. And for that reason and the fact that the Community College Board is opposed to this measure, I would urge a 'no' vote on 2721."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Flinn to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker, I reluctantly rise to oppose the Lady's Bill. We are...we are already well along the way, I am the Sponsor of a Senate Bill which will follow the directions of the State Community College Board in trying to revitalize the East St. Louis Community College. Mrs. Younge is aware of that and she has decided to sail out on her own. I would ask for a 'no' vote."

"Have all voted? Miss Younge, do you want to explain your vote? There's 64 'no' votes up here."

"Alright."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 36 'ayes' and 67 'nos'. House Bill 2721, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. House Bill 143, Representative LeFlore. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. 143."

"House Bill 143, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hospital Licensing Act. Third Reading of the Bill." 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"Mr. LeFlore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 143 require sixty days notice prior to a hospital closing, and this is to put the community and the workers of the hospital, informing them to the closing of the facility. The reason for this Bill is because this year there was one hospital in my district that closed, St. Ann's, and there was no notification given to the employees and the community. So I ask for a favorable vote."

"In opposition to the Bill, Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Federal law, the Plant Closing Law, passed and signed into law, already includes hospitals; therefore, there is a federal law requiring the sixty day notice. Secondly, hospitals are required to get a certificate from the Certificate of Need Board in order to close. This Act is amending the Hospital Licensing Act. What is the purpose of that when you're talking about a situation of closing? Is it to jeopardize the license in the event you don't give the sixty days notice? In short, there's no need for this Bill. It amends the wrong Act or if it's the right Act, if there's something to this, let... amending the Licensing Act, I stand in opposition, because there's no reason to amend the Licensing Act, to threaten the revocation of a license when we're talking about a hospital closing. There's already a requirement for it. It amends the wrong Act. It is unnecessarily duplicative. It does have a state impact because of the requirements put upon the Department of Public Health. I stand in opposition."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative LeFlore to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the previous speaker, I 39  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 disagree with him about the plant closure. The hospital closure has nothing to do with the plant closure and this is the reason why I brought this Bill forward. So I ask for your favorable vote."

"Have all voted? Representative Hultgren, explain your vote."

"Yes, because of a possible conflict, I'll be voting 'present' on this measure."

"Mr. Preston votes 'aye'. Mr... Miss Davis. Representative Davis to explain her vote."

"Yes, I just want to say that I think it's real important for a community to know when a hospital is closing. In the State of Illinois and especially in Chicago, we've had a number of hospitals to close and the employees and those who depend on the service of that hospital would know possibly a week before. And this is just a bit of legislation that says that a public announcement has to be made within a reasonable period of time that this hospital will be closing. We don't...it doesn't cost any money. It's just something to let the public know that they are important. And we beg of you to consider if some major institution in your area were closing, don't you think that you should be important enough to be informed, especially when you're dependent on that service. If you're a senior citizen and you have a cab to deliver you to the hospital, only to find that it's closed. We beg you, please vote 'aye' on this legislation."

"Have all voted? Representative Dunn votes 'aye'. Representative Flowers to explain her vote."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House..."

"McCracken is going to ask for a verification on this. Miss Flowers, proceed."

"I rise...I rise in support of the Gentleman's Motion. 40  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 It's unfortunate that a couple of weeks in Chicago...a couple of weeks ago in Chicago, a young man had gotten shot and his friends had taken him to the hospital. But the hospital was closed. There was no notification sent out in the community to let the people of the community know that that hospital was no longer in business. So as a result of that, the...unfortunately, the young man died. And it seems very simple to me for the hospital to let the community know that they are no longer in business if by chance anyone else has to make that same emergency ride, it would not be in vain. I would truly appreciate seeing more 'aye' votes up there in regards to House Bill 143."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 57 'ayes'...Shirley Jones votes 'aye'. Mr. Homer votes 'aye'. Mr. Homer votes 'aye'. On this Bill there are 59 'ayes', 46 'nos', 9 voting 'present'. This Bill, having failed to receive... Representative Davis, you spoke in debate, for what reason do you rise?"

"TO say to you, a policeman found himself in the same situation..."

"Representative... Representative LeFlore, do you want this on Postponed or you want the...the Bill... Representative Brunsvold votes 'aye'. Representative McNamara, for what reason do you rise?"

"Just as an explanation of my vote."

"Mr. McNamara, the vote is over."

"It isn't necessary anymore."

"The voting is over. On this Bill there are... Representative Klemm votes 'no'. On this Bill there are 60 'ayes', 46...47 'nos'. Representative McCracken has asked for a verification. Mr. Clerk, poll the...poll those not voting." 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Poll of those not voting. Representative Rice and Weaver are not voting."

"Representative Turner, for what reason do you rise? Mr. Turner would ask...Mr. McCracken, Mr. Turner would like to be verified. And Representative Wyvetter Younge would like leave. Mr. Clerk, poll the affirmative."

"Poll of the Affirmative. Balanoff. Bowman. Brunsvold. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Davis. DeLeo. Dunn. Edley. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Granberg. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Homer. Lou Jones. Shirley Jones. Keane. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Mulcahey. Munizzi. Novak. Phelps. Preston. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Santiago. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Trotter. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Woolard. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. And Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. DeJaegher changes his vote from 'no' to 'aye'. Mr. Bugielski, from 'present' to 'aye'. Any others? Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Keane?"

"Mr. Keane. Representative Keane. Remove Mr. Keane from the Roll Call. Representative Davis would like leave to be verified. She's walking up the center aisle."

"Representative Flinn?"

"Monroe Flinn. Representative Flinn. Remove Mr. Flinn."

"Representative Van Duyne?"

"He's here."

"Representative Hannig?"

"Mr. Hannig. Gary Hannig. Remove Mr. Hannig from the Roll." 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Representative Wolf?"

"Mr. Wolf. May 26, 1989 Remove Representative Wolf from the Roll."

"Representative Laurino?"

"Mr. Keane has returned. Roll. And what was your last one?"

"Laurino."

Return Mr. Keane to the Speaker McPike: "Mr. Laurino. him from the Roll." McCracken: Representative Laurino. Remove "Representative DeLeo?"

"Mr. DeLeo. Remove Mr. DeLeo."

"Representative Granberg."

"He's here."

"Nothing further."

"On this Bill there are 57 'ayes', 46 'nos'. Mr. Hannig has returned. Return Mr. Hannig to the Roll. No, Hicks was not knocked off the Roll. Representative LeFlore, on this... on this Bill..."

"...on Postponed."

"The Gentleman asks for Postponed Consideration. House Bill 424, It'll be placed on Postponed. Representative Flowers. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 424, a Bill for an Act to amend the Employees Right Violation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, last year we passed House Bill 3349 dealing with the violation of the employees right in the First and Fourteenth Amendment. In the...which required that the immediate discharge of a policy making state employee who is in litigation and in violation of someone's First and Fourteenth Amendment should be immediately fired. The Governor stated in his Amendatory Veto, he asked the 43  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 question that is...if the intent of the policy making officer to be discharged even if the case is pending. House Bill 424 answers the Governor's question. It gives the person the opportunity to be reinstated if he is found not guilty. And I'm asking for the passage of House Bill 424."

"Does anyone stand in opposition? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 103 'ayes', 12 'nos', 1 voting 'present'. House Bill 424, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 761, Representative Davis. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 761, a Bill for an Act to prohibit certain uses of automated telephone systems. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill prohibits the use of automated telephone dialing systems which use recorded messages and it provides for penalties. It authorizes the Attorney General to obtain...injunctive relief. It removes the policing powers from the telephone company through an Amendment and leaves that up to the Attorney General."

"Does anyone stand in opposition to this Bill? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 87 'ayes', 26 'nos', 1 voting 'present'. House Bill 761, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2448, Representative Cowlishaw. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"House Bill 2448, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2448 came out of Committee on Short Debate on a vote of 30 to nothing. It is the recognition program for drug-free schools, communities and businesses."

"Does anyone stand in opposition to the Bill? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, just wanted to know if there was a fiscal note filed on this?"

"Mr. Clerk. What's the fiscal note say? Yes, Mr. Clerk, would you read the fiscal note, please?"

"House Bill 2448 amends the School Code. This Bill requires the State Board of Education to initiate an annual Governor's Recognition Program for outstanding schools, communities and businesses which are free of drugs. House Bill 2448 also provides for a competitive grant program."

"Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Representative Cullerton would like to hear this. So, if you could read it so we could hear it."

"Okay. The State Board of Education estimates the following impact of House Bill 2448: The size and extent of ISBE staffing needed would be a function of the overall annual dollar value of the Grant Program and the number of grants to be administered. We assume the program of grants of three million to ten million with every school district eligible for at least a small grant of this basis, and with the need for the recognition program, the program would likely require staffing of two professionals, one clerk and one secretary. Costing for such a staffing alignment, 45  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 including fringe benefits, would be approximately $140,000. Traveling, duplicating, awards, postage and other costs would be in the range of 30,000 or more. Total estimated cost, $170,000 a year. A grant program with more than more that ten million up to twenty million in outlays would probably cost the agency 250 to 300 thousand reflecting more extensive staffing, in-service training and monitoring."

"Representative Cullerton to explain his vote. Yeah, Mr. McCracken, for what reason do you rise? We have not taken the record."

"Well, then I'll explain my vote."

"Well, Representative Cullerton's going to explain his vote first."

"Oh, then I'll make my point of order first."

"Alright. Make your point of order."

"Where in the rules does it say the Clerk is to read the fiscal note? Last night...last night, last night, I objected and a fiscal note was read. I assumed it was done somewhat in jest. But when Representative Cullerton asked for the fiscal note, there must be malice there somewhere. Now, how many fiscal notes of Democrat big-spending Bills are we going to get read when we request our friend, Tony Leone, to do so? Are you going to call Democratic fiscal notes and have the Clerk read them...ad nauseam?"

"No."

"For when they...for when they...yeah, precisely, for when they cost a billion dollars to do this and a billion dollars to do that. So what I want to know is when Representative so and so calls a Bill costing a billion dollars and it's a Democratic Bill, is it going to be read as seriously and as at length as Representative Cowlishaw's was just read? No, is that the answer? I call it a 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day rhetorical question."

"Thank you."

"My guess is that this is a new trend, that instead of having a two or three month legislative session, we'll be in seven months a year SO that Clerk Leone and Clerk O'Brien can read the Republican fiscal notes. But the billion here and the billion there that the Democrats propose, I predict will never, ever be read into the record. That's my guess. I'm just speculating."

"Okay, thank you."

"I'm just speculating."

"Mr. Leone, Representative McCracken has strongly objected to the way that you read that fiscal note. And don't do it again. Representative Cullerton now to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was just curious as to how much the Bill cost and after he read the fiscal note, now I'm really confused. I heard ten million once, then I heard twenty million. Representative McCracken has acknowledged that it's a big spending Bill. I thought it was only 4.6 million that was going to be funded by the cigarette tax that's in a Senate Committee after an unsuccessful vote to discharge. So, I just wanted to know how much, maybe the Lady could explain in her... by explaining her vote, whether this is 4.6 million, ten million or twenty million."

"Representative Cowlishaw to explain her vote."

"Mr. Speaker: for this program there is already an amount of $4,625,000 in the State Board of Education budget. The Board of Education anticipated that this program would be approved since they assumed that nobody in the General Assembly was in favor of school children using drugs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker." 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

May 26, 1989 "Have all voted... Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to inquire, in this Bill is there anything that require all these drug-free people to be free of AIDS? Do we have to test them? And what kind of fiscal note would it cost if it's required among all the others that we passed?"

"Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 107 'ayes', no 'nays'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, House Bill 2448, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 792, Representative Trotter. Read the Bill..."

"House Bill 792, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Trotter."

"Mr. Speaker, I just found a slip to put that in Interim Study."

"Oh, fine, the Bill's in Interim Study. House Bill 822, Shirley Jones. Representative Jones. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 822, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Department of Children and Family Services. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Jones." Jones, S.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 822 provides that the Department of Children and Family Service may in conjunction with college and university establish programs to train low income older persons to be child care workers. Public aid and social security pension or private savings are the only liable assistance programs for older persons. This Bill that prescribes children care training for older persons allows them to be more self-sufficient by increasing their 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day potential earning power. No further..."

"Does anyone stand in opposition May 26, 1989 to the Bill? All those in The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Representative McCracken to explain his vote."

"There's a fiscal note on this. Would the Assistant Clerk please read the fiscal note?"

"No."

"Why am I not surprised?"

"Have all voted? The last time we did that a Bill got 108 votes. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 104 'ayes', 8 'nos'. House Bill 822, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 889, Representative Trotter. Do you wish this Bill called? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"On Supplemental Calendar 2, House Bill 889, a Bill for an Act to amend the Personnel Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Trotter." "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I believe I finally might have a Bill that even the Republicans can vote on here. This Bill 889 amends the Personnel Code, and the genesis of this Bill was from several complaints of people in my community who did not have access to personnel lists, which simply define the lists asking that...where the jobs are, what county they're in, what agency they are about and the pay. We're asking that all jobs that go through the personnel department be posted and be accessible to the general community. And I ask everyone to vote 'aye' on this Bill."

"Does anyone stand in opposition? Mr. McCracken, in opposition to the Bill." 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

May 26, 1989 "And I am not ashamed to say that a certain amount of discretion vested in the Executive Branch should be honored by the Legislative Branch. This is an attempt to co-opt a separate branch of government. It is proposed under the guise of reform, when in fact, it is a slap at the Executive Branch, a separate branch of government under our Constitution. What is wrong with discretion in the execution of the Executive Branch's duties? That is precisely what is at issue here. This is a Bill on the... this is an attack on the Executive Branch of our government. It is not reform. It would hobble the Executive Branch in its discretion in executing its duties. It's an awful Bill. And don't let anyone fool you otherwise. This is not reform."

"Question is, 'Shall House Bill 889 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Trotter to explain his vote."

"Well, I am against the patronage in the Governor's Office; however, this Bill does allow for exemption of certain management positions. So, I don't think it is really that attack that he's talking about, and it's not a horrible Bill. And It will work for everyone. I, again, ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Balanoff, explain his vote."

"Yes. This is a question of executive patronage. And the question is of openness in government. People have an...should have a right and an opportunity to know what jobs are available and when they're available. And I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Have all voted? Mr. McAuliffe to explain his vote. No, never mind. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 42 'ayes', 64 'nos'. House Bill 889, having failed to 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 receive a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. House Bill 955, Mr. Trotter. You want that Bill called? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 955, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Parentage Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Trotter."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Let me try this one more time. House Bill 955 is a Bill that says that if the courts ascertain that there is parentage in a child and judgement in child support is deemed necessary, we're saying that the non-custodial parent should pay a minimum of $10. And we're asking that everyone here vote with me on this Bill."

"Does anyone stand in opposition to this Bill? Representative McCracken."

"I don't know if I'm in opposition. If it does as little as I think it does, what's the purpose?"

"Mr. Trotter."

"This being...the purpose being is that a lot of people in being derelict in their responsibilities to paying child support would rather quit their job and hide behind the shield of public aid and general assistance because those checks are not garnished. We're saying that those people might have an incentive to keep their jobs if, in fact, they know that their dollars will be taken from them regardless if they want to or not."

"Okay, sounds good."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are lll 'ayes', no 'nays', none voting 'present'. House Bill 955, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Bill 981, Representative Davis. 981, Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 981, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Miss Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We all know that self-esteem develops because of role models. Minority pupils would improve in their academic achievement as well as in their discipline if House Bill 981 were passed. Because of the ability of many students to go into other fields today, where the pay is much superior than that of a teacher, the pool of teachers is decreasing. Sixteen percent of the students outside of Chicago are minority, but only four percent of the teaching staff is minority. Therefore, we are asking that you pass House Bill 981. The Bill simply requires that school boards develop and implement minority recruitment in hiring policies for teachers and for other employees by the year 1991. There is a state mandate fiscal note that states that since the Bill imposes a one-time requirement, it should impose no additional cost. We ask for a favorable vote."

"In opposition to the Bill, Representative Stephens."

"Well, I just have a question. The Lady mentioned outside of Chicago. What is it inside Chicago?"

"Inside of Chicago, Representative, if you're speaking of the Chicago Public School System, minority students are approximately sixty-five percent."

"No, I thought we're talking about instructors."

"Instructors in Chicago are still at a...I don't have the exact figures, but the percentage certainly would be lower than the majority." 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"But, it would be higher than the minority outside the city."

"Higher than the...minority...well..."

"I'm wondering, if we would wind up with the reverse discrimination in the city...in the city. Would you wind up with having to hire more non-minorities in the city schools SO that you could bring the level to the right numbers as your Bill would accord."

"Well, I am not sure that we are asking for levels to be sought. I mean it isn't...we're not asking for any numbers. We're merely saying put forth a little effort and bring into your school building people of minority races."

"Okay, I don't have a problem with that. I don't...when my kids go to school, I don't care if they're taught by a black, white or indifferent. That's great for me, but I happen to live in an area that's like...the minority's total is like two and a half percent or a percent and a half, and if right now we have one or two or three percent minority instructors, would your Bill cause the school board to have to go on a recruitment plan to increase that?"

"No, Sir. Let me state again, the Bill is merely saying to school boards across the State of Illinois put forth some effort in the recruitment of minority teachers..."

"So if they..."

"And I'll state the reason again. You said in your community, Sir, that there are two and a half to three percent minority students?"

"I don't know about the students..."

"How many..."

"The total population is about two and a half percent, I think."

"Students, you don't know?" 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 population."

"Well, I...no, I don't. I'm just...total

"But, don't you think... Don't you think, Representative, it would be very positive and have a positive effect upon those students who live in your community who are minorities to see a minority teaching at the school that they attend?"

"Oh absolutely, and I think it would do good for the majority to see thattoo. I think it would have a positive effect. What I'm asking...and we have that. There are minorities teaching in the schools. What I'm asking you is if it's roughlythe same balance, if there isn't an extremely negative balance showing prejudice, would they have to create a plan if they've already met some standard?"

"No, they do not. If they already have some minorities that are in that building who are being positive role models for those students, they don't have a problem."

"So if they've got..."

"But in those buildings where they..."

"If there is a black or an American Indian teaching in that school system or in that building, then they can say, 'Well, that building's got a positive role model. Look at building 2 now and..."

"I would hope so."

"Is that..."

"I would hope so. We're not saying you have to have five, we're not saying you have to have ten, we're not saying you have to have twenty. What we're saying, Sir. is these students need positive role models whom they can emulate..."

"Well, I agree with you. I think we all need positive role models and whether they're in the schools or in the Legislature or on the sportsfield, wherever it is, I 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day couldn't agree with you more."

"Thank you, Sir." May 26, 1989

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. Mr. Lang, 'aye'. On this Bill there 101 'ayes' and 11 'nos'. House Bill 981, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1415, Representative Trotter. Mr. Trotter, do you want to have this Bill called? Representative Trotter, do you want the Bill called? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1415, a Bill for an Act in relationship to adequate ventilation in office buildings. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Trotter."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It seems like I'm on a roll this morning. House Bill 1415 is actually a very simple Bill, as I thought the others were also. It has been designed actually to enhance the quality of life for the worker in his place of employment. We're asking that... the genesis of this Bill was brought about because in the last several years researchers have come to realize that health risks from air contaminants in the air environment may be greater indoors than those outdoors. And we're asking that we rectify this problem, and this Bill can do that. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"In opposition to the Bill, Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do rise in opposition. Contrary to popular belief, our employees in this state are not working in sweatshops and dying for lack ofair conditioning. This is an idea whose time has past. It would be appropriate back in the 1890's but we're beyond 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 that now. It's not a question of someone's safety or health involved here. Frankly, it's gotten to the point where it's an issue of comfort. If it's seventy-two degrees, you'remore comfortable than if it's seventy-eight degrees. And that is not a good enoughreason to be imposing these costs on our businesses and even on the state. The state is included in the definition of employer. Has the Gentleman considered the ramifications of having air conditioners in every building in which the state occupies? It's just not necessary. It's counterproductive. It's expensive and it has no good purpose."

"Question is, 'Shall House Bill 1415 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Black to explain his vote."

"Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. You know, with all of the constructiongoing on in the City of Chicago, many of us in areas that aren't thatfortunate, look at that building construction going on in Chicago and all the new buildings and we sometimes get very envious. I just wonder how much thiswould cost the municipalities like Chicago if this Bill would go into effectwith all of the highrise, modern, state of the art sealed buildings. I think the cost would be astronomical. And thestandards in this Bill defy imagination."

"Mr. Trotter to explain your vote."

"This Bill actually...there's provisions in the Bill itself that exempt those that can't afford to do it. We're asking that those that can and those th that there are complaints at, you know, at least comply to this regulation. The fiscal impact that they're talking about here, the Board of...the Department of Labor said there's a one-time cost of $173,000 and that's not even in FY90, 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 cause this Bill doesn't take effect till FY91. You know, I believe we should get more votes than 34. We work in a very comfortable environment and there's no reason why we can't expect other people to have that same benefits. So I'm looking for more 'aye' votes."

"Representative Levin."

"Mr. Speaker, in explaining my 'aye' vote. In Committee we heard testimony concerning state employees in the Centennial Building, the very next building over, who suffered from fumes in the printing area because of lack of circulation. That's the kind of thing that this Bill is directed at dealing with. And I would encourage more 'aye' votes."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 32 'ayes', 75 'nos'. House Bill 1415, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. Representative Flowers, House Bill 1527. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1527, a Bill for an Act to create a Child Care Program. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is what I call my Grandma Hands Bill. We are asking the Department of Aging to put together a volunteer training program for senior citizens to take care of young babies. It will be extra income for the senior citizens as well as it would provide that nurturing that young people need growing up because their parents has to work. And I would be more than happy to answer any questions that you may have in regards to House Bill 1527."

"In opposition to the Bill. Mr. Black, it's either you or Miss Cowlishaw, which one? Representative 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Cowlishaw."

"Thank you, May 26, 1989 Mr. Speaker and Representative Black. I stand in opposition to this Bill as does the Department on Aging. The Department on Aging points out that it does not currently have sufficient funds to completely fulfill its obligations under the Elder Abuse Act. If we do not have sufficient money to be certain that we try to prevent elder abuse, then it seems to me we certainly ought not to be undertaking any new programs. In addition towhich, as a very recent grandmother, I would like to say that any senior citizenwho has had children of his or her own, already knows all there is to know about raising children. And anybody that age who has never had children is never going to learn. I think this Bill should be defeated."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Representative Davis to explain her vote."

"Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a Bill that I think will be... it will help the state to save money. When we talk about the needed child care, we have a...we have a resource of people whose talents are not being used and that is our senior citizens. And certainly, the State of Illinois would want to be involved and make certain that that senior citizen was capable of holding a twelve pound baby. We've got a cocaine baby abuse problem. We're going to need people to help care for those babies. And who better could have the heart and the compassion than a senior citizen. Senior citizens are not ready to be thrown away and called useless. Many things that they are capable of doing, but there's one in which they would welcome the opportunity and that's to assist us in the care of these children."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day all voted who wish? Representative Black." May 26, 1989

"Well, Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. I was just going to explain my vote. The Lady, previous Speaker, said it would save us some money. The Department of Aging estimates it would cost $35,000 this fiscal year and an undeterminable amount...an undeterminable amount the thirteen area agencies on the aging. You know, let's get serious. There are many priority programs and services that need the attention of the Department of Aging. We currently have programs in the Department of Aging that are unfunded, such as elder abuse. So why would we want to create a new program that the Department of Aging cannot do at this time. Let's do the program that we said we would do. Let's fund those, then let's come back and talk about new ones."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 59 'ayes'...Representative Santiago, 'aye'. On this Bill there are 60 'ayes', 44 'nos'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, House Bill 1527, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1561, Representative Wyvetter Younge. What happened to Representative Younge? There she is. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1561, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Younge." Younge, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, House Bill 1651..."

"Fifteen, 1561." Younge, W.: "...1561 would authorize the State Board of Education to make loansto financially distressed school districts. The Bill...will be amended to put a financial oversight of the school district's Amendment, which is agreed on by 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day theschool May 26, 1989 district, but that Amendment has not been fully negotiated and agreed on. But I do have an understanding with the State Board that if the Bill proceeds further, it will be that with an Amendment that we agree on. And I move for the passage of the Bill."

"Representative, who stands in opposition to the Bill? Mr. McCracken or Mr. Stephens. Representative McCracken,"

"No, I don't stand in opposition to the Bill. I would like to compliment the Lady. I'm sure she'll work with the School Board. Now, having said that, Madam, do you have any more Bills to call?"

"No, this is the last one."

"Okay, good, I'm for this."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 113 'ayes', 1 'no'. House Bill 1561, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Cowlishaw on House Bill 2605. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2605, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Cowlishaw."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I will begin by reading the fiscal note on House Bill 2605. The fiscal note says this Bill establishes grant programs for intensified focus on scientific literacy. There is an appropriation for 10 million dollars for this purpose in House Bill 591. This is the scientific literacy initiative, consists of State Board of Education Grant Programs to focus on increasing the teaching ability in scientific subjects for teachers throughout this state, 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 includes both public and private school teachers. And it will be, I am sure, overseen very carefully by the Governor's scientific advisor who has been advising us on this Bill all along, Doctor Leon Letterman, the former Director of Fermi Lab. I move for the adoption of House Bill 2605."

"And on that, Representative Cullerton."

"Yes, Representative Cowlishaw, this program was presented to us by the Governor, I believe, at the State of the State, and I think that thereis...this 10 million dollars is in the budget, but this money...doesn't this money come from the increase in the Cigarette Tax?"

"That is correct."

"As you know, that tax was started in the Senate and is still in Committee and a Motion to discharge, I think, failed. Is that...do you know if that cigarette tax is still alive somewhere or...what happens if the cigarette tax doesn't pass? What happens to this program?"

"It is my understanding that that proposal has been amended on to Senate Bill...just a moment, I'll get you the number, 1113."

"Now, just...I assume that you're supportive of that tax to help pay for this program."

"That is correct."

"Some money goes to the...to the Math and Science Academy, I know it's always of interest to certain Members here. How is...what part of this Billdeals with the Math and Science Academy?"

"This Bill makes it possible for these programs to increase the teaching abilities of those persons who teach science...science subjects. It involves the cooperation of both public and private colleges and universities, both public and private schools, and the Illinois Mathematics 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day and Science Academy." May 26, 1989

"So, basically, the money will be spent to...the money will be going to teachers who will be trained..."

"The money will be spent for programs to increase the capabilities of teachers who teach science and mathematics."

"To teach the teachers how to be better teachers at math and science."

"Well, Representative, it seems apparent that the teaching staffs that we presently have, not only in Illinois but throughout this nation, are not succeeding as well as we would like them to succeed. When our students are compared internationally with students from other nations, particularly in the subjects of mathematics and science, that comparison certainly does not show that our young people are achievers. And I think that because of the importance of those subjects internationally, in the economy and for every other good reason, that it is really important for us to address our inadequacies in the teaching of mathematics and science in Illinois and throughout this nation."

"To what extent has the actual program been developed? Is there...could we point to a specific school district that's going to get X number of dollars or has it not yet been advanced that far?"

"No, Representative, that's a very...that's an excellent question."

"Thank you."

"But actually this program has not been put into the kind of final condition where every t is crossed and every i is dotted. We do have any number of people who, I'm sure you would agree, are highly competent, who are working on this program even as we stand here discussing it. And as I 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day mentioned before, May 26, 1989 one of those people is Doctor Leon Letterman, the former Director of Fermi Lab."

"Thank you."

"Anything further? Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Representative Brunsvold, I'm sorry. On this Bill there are lll 'ayes' and 2 'nos'. House Bill 2605, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Brunsvold."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Back in 1969 I started teaching school in Sherrard Unit District 200. Over on the Republican side of the aisle on the balcony is the fifth grade class, and I started teaching fifth grade in the Sherrard Unit School, and there's a fifth grade from Matherville in the balcony. I'd appreciate a round of applause for these fine young people from Matherville."

"House Bill 2639, Representative LeFlore. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. 2639. Representative McCracken."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I see our good friend and colleague, Nelson Rice, is back. Welcome back, Nelson."

"Alright..."

"House Bill..."

"Mr. Rice, how you feeling? Turn on Mr. Rice's microphone."

"I'm glad to be back."

"Glad to have you. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2639, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. LeFlore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2639 requires state agencies which fail 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 to comply with equal employment opportunities, affirmative action goals, to establish all training programs necessary for preparation and promotion of minorities. Such program must be established within 90 days of the official notice of noncompliance by the department. I will ask for a favorable vote on this Bill. I think it's a necessary Bill, because many of the agencies, state agencies, does not apply to the affirmative action program."

"Does anyone stand in opposition to the Bill? Question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Regan, 'aye'. Regan, 'aye'. Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 80 'ayes', 31 'nos'. House Bill 2639, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2687, Representative LeFlore. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill..."

"Representative McGann."

"My switch didn't work. I wanted to vote 'aye' on that last..."

"Let the record reflect..."

"...House Bill 2687. (sic - 2639)"

"Representative McGann would have voted 'aye' on House Bill 2639. Now we're on 2687. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2687, a Bill for an Act creating the Board of Higher Education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. LeFlore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2687 requires the Illinois Board of Higher Ed. to budget and report and monitor programs to improve race and ethnic relation on college campus. The program will require public institution of higher education to provide 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day course work through an existing education requirement lead into a degree. favorable vote on this Bill." May 26, 1989 course in the general

I ask for a Speaker McPike: "The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2687 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 98 'ayes', 18 'nos'. House Bill 2687, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1824, Representative Flowers. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1824, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 1824 is merely bringing the Department of Human Rights in compliance with the Federal Government in regards to housing and also in regards to...oh, familial status, and I would be more than happy to answer any questions in regards to House Bill 24 (sic-1824). And I know of no opposition to the Bill."

"Representative, I think we have opposition to this one. Miss Pullen or Representative McCracken, which one? Representative Pullen stands in opposition to the Bill."

"Is it possible to ask a question?"

"Yes, sure. Proceed."

"How does this apply in a situation of familial status?"

"Right...right now, Representative Pullen, familial status is at 14. This piece of legislation, again in compliance with the Federal Government, would extend the age to 18."

"What does that mean?"

"Familial status is defined as one or more persons not 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 yet 18 years old with a parent, legal custodian or their designee. Discrimination on the basis of familial status is prohibited in all real estate transactions."

"So this means that persons who are transferring property either by sale or lease would not be able to refuse to rent or sale to a family that has someone aged up to 18?"

"Pardon me?"

"Does that mean that under the provisions of this, someone who is transferring property, whether by sale or lease, would not be able to refuse to do so on the basis that the person who is receiving the property had in the family someone who is aged up to 18?"

"You're right."

"Thank you."

"Representative McCracken."

"Madam, is it your position that this Bill would prohibit a person from...now, well, let me ask this. Would this apply to leasing as well as real estate sales?"

"Yes, it would."

"So, if a person wanted to rent who is living with a person of the opposite sex, not married, they would have to allow the leasing to be done. An unmarried couple, which is common these days."

"We...we are talking about families here."

"Well, this same Section has been..."

"Familial status. The Bill specifically talk about familial status. That is very clear in the Bill."

"Precisely, and the Department of Human Rights under current law is construing that to require an old woman living upstairs to rent her downstairs apartment to a couple she's not married, when she objects to that on moral grounds. Now what I want to know is, does this continue or strengthen that problem?" 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

May 26, 1989 "This has nothing to do with that particular issue that you in reference to now."

"Alright, to the Bill. What we say a Bill does or doesn't do is immaterial as we all should be aware by now. It's the language of the Bill that people look at. These agencies construe it, regardless of our legislative debate or intent. They couldn't care less and the Human Rights Commission now is persecuting a woman because she will not rent to an unmarried couple. She doesn't want them in their house. She doesn't want to rent to them. What is happening in society today is that we're standing on our head. Now, she has to prove that she is not discriminating. When, in fact, this couple could go somewhere else and live virtually anywhere. It's crazy. And this just exacerbates the problem. I know the realtors have signed off on this, but let me tell you something. I am very disappointed with the realtors this year. I don't know why they're doing it, but they are abandoning positions they've held for long periods of time for no apparent reason. Just because they say this is okay, doesn't mean it's okay. I rise in opposition."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Kirkland to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Gentleman who just spoke addressed a different issue and what he addressed is simply not part of this Bill. This Bill is put together or this Section just talked about is put together to protect an ongoing work-sharing agreement between the Illinois Department of Human Rights and the Federal Department of Housing and Urban Development. And it protects their getting federal funding, and therefore it is necessary to pass. Excuse me, just a second." 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Mr. Speaker."

"That's all. Thank you." May 26, 1989

"Excuse me, please shut off Representative Flowers. Thank you. Proceed, Representative Kirkland."

"Well, I was just going to say this legislation is necessary to protect the department's substantial equivalency status with the Federal Government and allow the Department of Human Rights to continue to receive federal funding. It...it's...this Bill has nothing to do with the subject matter that Representative McCracken addressed."

"Representative Levin to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker, in explaining my 'aye' vote. Everything that is in this Bill is law at the present time. It was part of the Federal Fair Housing Amendments of 1988, so we are covered by it, whether we like it or not. In order, however, to get federal money, in order to administer that program, we need to have, as the last speaker indicated, a statute that is substantially the same and consistent with the Federal Law. The requirements are there. This really does not add anything, any new obligations that are not in the Federal Act. It is perfectly consistent with the new Federal Law in which the realtors and the various other groups, management and labor, were involved in the drafting of the new Federal Law."

"Representative McCracken."

"I've looked at the familial status definition and I stand corrected. This does not address what I thought it did. I'm going to change my vote to 'yes'."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 95 'ayes'...on this Bill there are 95 'ayes', 18 'nos'. House Bill 1824, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 hereby declared passed. The House will remon...remind all Members that there is a no smoking rule on the House Floor. That applies to all Members and any staff on the floor. There's a no smoking rule. If you're going to smoke, please leave the floor. Representative Davis on House Bill 1927. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1927, a Bill for an Act in relation to notices regarding the danger of alcohol. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The display of birth defect warning signs is what this Bill is all about. We find that there is a need for public information about the risk of birth defects when women consume alcoholic beverages during pregnancy. The United States Surgeon General has recommended abstinence...abstinence from alcohol during pregnancy. And since fetal alcohol syndrome and fetal alcohol effects are preventable, we recommend that we have signs at every retail establishment where alcoholic beverages are sold. This piece of legislation merely requires that those who sale alcohol display a sign that states: 'Warning. The Surgeon General reports that women who are pregnant should not drink alcoholic beverages because of the risk of birth defects.' We would answer any questions and we certainly appreciate your support of this legislation."

"Does anyone stand in opposition? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 107 'ayes', 5 'nos', 2 voting 'present'. House Bill 1927, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2130, Representative 69  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 Didrickson. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2130..."

"Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2130 amends the Liquor Control Act. It increases the retailer license fee by $50 and deposits it into a Youth Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Prevention Fund. It has been amended to include that on June 30th of each year the amount of money equal to the number of retail liquor licenses issued for that fiscal year multiplied by 50 dollars shall be deposited...or shall be transferred from the Dram Shop Fund and deposited in this new Youth Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Fund. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Representative Mautino, do you stand in opposition? Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you very much. The Sponsor of this legislation has an idea that was addressed by Amendment #1, I believe. Let me explain to you the problem that occurs with the Bill in its current form. I have no problem with the Amendment, but the Governor has for the last I don't know how many years, and the Governors before him, have taken those surplus funds that have occurred in the...under the Dram Shop Fund and applied it into the General Revenue Fund. There are no state dollars whatsoever in the Illinois Liquor Control Commission. It is operated in total by the license provisions of the wholesalers, the manufacturers and the retailers in this State. First, let me say I think it's unfair that you provide for a license to a retailer that is in essence going to address the question of chemical drug problems as opposed to alcohol problems. We fund to a great degree with that additional million dollars that is always taken by the Governor and put in the General 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Revenue Fund, to most of the programs under the prevention of alcoholism and mental health. I think what the Lady is doing with this Bill is trying to obtain funds from retailers for a purp...for a purpose, 90 percent of which they are no part. If in fact it were to license those individuals who were caught selling or using chemical drugs, I could understand the rationale. In this instance I would ask the Lady if she would respond to a couple of questions, if I may."

"Proceed."

"Yes, I will be glad to."

"Number one, has the Governor agreed with your proposal, which would take the money away from his...the context he's been working on for the last fourteen years and put in this Fund?"

"Representative Mautino, I think you're confused. You're talking about lapsed funding. We are talking about an additional 50 dollars going on to the Retail Liquor License Fee. It has nothing to do with the lapsed funding at the end of the year that you are talking about."

"Well, that's what your Amendment does. It takes those funds that are left over. Let me explain to you..."

"No, that's not correct. Could you listen?"

"Okay."

"Because we've tried to work with you and address your concern about how you take those dollars from the Dram Shop Fund and move them into this Substance Abuse Fund and we are going to do that at the end of the year, not in the beginning of the year in order to provide for easy bookkeeping in that regard. What you are talking about are those dollars that are left over from the original 75 dollar fee that are lapsed. Than that the Governor gets to use. These are separate funds that we're talking about. 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 We are talking about an additional 50 dollars for a Youth Alcohol and Substance Abuse Prevention Fund. Separate and away from the Governor's lapsed funding from this fund at the end of the year."

"And you are, I'm assuming, providing that to the licensees in the State of Illinois. How do you obtain money for the substance abuse from chemical dependent fundings? How do you...?"

"Would you repeat your question, please?"

"Since you are addressing in both cases the conception of alcohol and chemical substance abuse, bu you are applying your fee only to one of those areas."

"We are..."

"How is it that you may possibly apply and obtain those funds for the other purpose?"

"Are you...how do we license drug dealers in the State of Illinois? I'mnot aware that we do."

"That's my question. The biggest problem is in the area of substance abuse, chemical substance abuse. Yet there is no way to..."

"You're arguing...you're arguing the retailer liquor license argument, and I share your concerns. We are not hanging a mantle on the liquor industry. We are suggesting, though, that there should be a prevention fund, an appropriate source of revenue for a prevention fund of alcohol and substance abuse, which is frequently tied together, not always, but frequently tied together as a dependency. That the appropriate source of revenue for such a fund is indeed the retail liquor license."

"Have you entertained the possible consideration of a fee on the manufacture and sale of drugs and pharmaceuticals through retailers and have them obtain a license and an increase in that license fee for those 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day purposes?"

May 26, 1989 "This Bill deals with the liquor...retail liquor license fee annually. It is...presently it's 75 dollars. I think it's been there for...at least 10 years. There has not been a change and what we are seeking to change here is an additional 50 dollars to be put into the Alcohol and Substance Abuse Fund."

"Well, to the Bill, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment, I think, is laudable. I do not believe that the Governor will accept the allocation provisions that are established in the Bill and I certainly don't think it's fair to increase those licensure fees for this purpose and I stand in opposition."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2130 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', opposed vote 'no'. Representative Satterthwaite to explain her vote."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I think that this is a very worthy attempt to put some money into a program for prevention of alcohol and drug abuse. Frequently prevention programs are left behind addressing the crisis after the fact."

"Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are 83 'ayes', 32 'nos', one voting 'present' and House Bill 2130 having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. We are now going to Special Order, Labor. Representative Cullerton in the Chair."

"Representative DeLeo on House Bill 39. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 39, a Bill for an Act to amend the Uniform Peace Officers Disciplinary Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative DeLeo on House Bill 39." 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"Thank You, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd ask to suspend the appropriate rule to move this back to Second Reading for..."

"The Gentleman asks leave to return House Bill 39 to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Leave is granted. Please read the Bill on Second Reading, Mr. Clerk."

"This Bill's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative DeLeo."

"Representative DeLeo on Amendment #1."

"Thank you Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment #1 is some technical Amendment. It removes some language in the Bill. This was worked out with Rob 'Rappell' from the States Attorney's office and with the Sponsor of the Bill, Ethel Pete. I ask for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 39 and on that question, Representative McCracken."

"Yes. This is more of a technical nature. Our analysis indicates there's a problem with the Amendment. I don't know that we have...well, I don't know if we have a problem with the Bill, to be quite honest, but...but it leaves an incomplete sentence."

"Representative DeLeo."

"I'd like to withdraw Amendment #1. Amendment #...there is a problem with Amendment #1, Amendment #2..."

"Amendment #1 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk, further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative DeLeo."

"Representative DeLeo on Amendment #2."

"Amendment #2 changes omits lines one through eight on page 2, lines two and three and this should clarify the 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Act."

May 26, 1989 "Representative McCracken on Amendment #2."

"This has the same problem. If you look at the last line of the Amendment, it says on page 2, 'by deleting everything after line five'. The end of line five is not the end of a sentence. It deletes in mid sentence. I'm not trying to screw it up, but it is a problem."

"Representative DeLeo asks that we take this Bill out of the record. We can come back to it, Representative DeLeo, after we straighten out the problems on the Amendments. House Bill 83, Representative LeFlore. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 83, a Bill for an Act to amend the Steel Products Procurement Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative LeFlore on House Bill 83." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 83 is Buy American. It requires that every contract entered into by the State of Illinois, unit of local government or school district for the construction, improvement, maintenance or repairs of public works contain a provision that steel products used in the performance of the contract be manufactured or produced in the United States. I would like to have a favorable vote on this good old Buy American Bill. Thank you."

"The Gentleman's moved for the passage of House Bill 83 and on that question is there any discussion? Representative Tate, do you stand in opposition?"

"Yeah, I do."

"Proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, I guess the Illinois General Assembly will spend an hour wasting its time debating a foreign policy issue, but 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 if anybody really takes the time to read this Bill, one of the inherent problems in the Bill is how you define content in a product. Is a product that's 99 percent made in America domestic? Is it a product that's...that we...we have foreign paint. Is that a foreign made product? Is a product where the rubber comes from Taiwan, is that an American product? The fact of the matter is, is this Bill is unenforceable, it's complicated, it will in fact cause some Illinois companies that currently do business here, that currently employ thousands of people in this State, it will prohibit them from selling their products to Illinois governments because some of their parts might not be made completely in Illinois or the U. S. of A. So as a fact, we offered some Amendments to this Bill that would've improved this. I guess if you all want to send out your press release saying that we're going to make Illinois government buy only Illinois products, well I'm not sure if you can totally say that without tongue in cheek. This is a bad written Bill. It may be well intended, but this Bill doesn't do the job that we want to accomplish, and in fact, this Bill will be anti-Illinois and hurt a lot of Illinois employers that currently sell to Illinois government. So I stand in opposition to the Bill."

"The Gentleman stands in opposition to House Bill 83. On this question...the question is, 'Shall House Bill 83 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open, this is final passage. Representative Ropp to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill certainly is one that will tend to increase the cost of doing a lot of business in Illinois. It certainly is a foreign policy issue. It's an issue that in no way should be dealt with by the state and it's certainly setting up barriers that will affect 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 other products that we need to produce and export. Exporting is a kind of a business that is required by fair give and take and this takes that particularly out of the process."

"Representative Hannig to explain his vote."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm very proud to rise in support of this proposal. If you read the Chicago paper today, we find that our free trade President and his Council have declared that Japan is an unfair trader, that they've taken advantage of our country and our people and that even he finds that there's no alternative but to put them on the list of unfair traders. We in Illinois have an obligation to our people, to protect Americans and I vote 'aye'."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Balanoff to explain his vote. One minute."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I come from an area that has been devastated by plant closings. As a child, within a ten mile radius of my house there were 130,000 people that were members of the Steel Workers Union. Today there are less than 30,000. Had we had this legislation ten years ago, maybe some of these people would be still working today. I urge an 'aye' vote for all the working men and women in Illinois and those who are unemployed in the hope that this will help to create jobs and I'd really urge more green votes."

"Representative Harris. One minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The previous speaker indicated that we had had this Bill 10 years ago there would be more steel workers in his district. Ladies and Gentlemen, that is not correct. What we do in this Chamber simply by passing a law is not going 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 to put more steel workers in his district. We passed a Buy America Bill when everyone was waving flags and that was going to be the salvation of the steel workers in the Southeast side of Chicago. It didn't happen. It's not going to happen with this Bill. It doesn't make sense, quite frankly. What we do in this Chamber doesn't change the marketplace one iota. The correct vote on this Bill is a 'no' vote. I certainly would like to see some of those greens change to red. Thank you."

"Representative Davis, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise in support of this legislation because I grew up in the house with a steel worker, Mr. James McKay, my father, and we were always proud to purchase things that used to say, 'Made in the U.S.A'."

"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. Representative Tate asks for a verification. Mr. Clerk, please read those not voting. Wait. I believe everyone's voting. Could you please...Representative Tate, Representative Edley asks leave to be verified. Leave is granted. If you could please read the affirmative, Mr. Clerk."

"Balanoff. Bowman. Breslin. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Edley. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Goforth. Granberg. Hannig. Hartke. Hasara. Hicks. Homer. Lou Jones. Shirley Jones. Keane. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Mulcahey. Munizzi. Novak. Phelps. Preston. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Santiago. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Trotter. Turner. Van 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Duyne. White. Williams. Wolf. Woolard. Wyvetter Young and Mr. Speaker."

May 26, 1989 Anthony Young. "Representative Tate, Representative Shaw in the center aisle asks leave to be verified and Representative Lang down here at the well asks leave to be verified."

"That's fine. Lang..."

"Any questions of the affirmative, Sir? Representative Tate, any questions of the affirmative?"

"Well, first of all, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to say I hope not to take a great deal of the House time, but, and it certainly would help expedite this process if people would remain in their seats. I know we're under a time constraint."

"Yes. We could ask the people voting in the affirmative if they could please take their seats to facilitate the verification. Any questions of the affirmative?"

"Representative Wolf."

"Representative Sam Wolf. Is the Gentleman in the Chamber? Sam Wolf in the Chamber? Please remove him."

"Representative Flinn."

"One second. Representative Kulas is down here in the well, asks leave to be verified. Representative Capparelli wishes to change his vote to 'aye'. 'Aye'. And Representative Terzich wishes to change his vote to 'aye'. Further questions?"

"Representative Flinn."

"Representative Monroe Flinn. Is the Gentleman in the Chamber? Please remove him."

"Representative Richmond."

"Representative Richmond. Is the Gentleman in the Chamber? Please remove him." 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Representative Leverenz."

"What was that name?"

"Leverenz." May 26, 1989

"Representative Leverenz? He's in the rear of Tate: the Chamber." "Representative Currie."

"I'm sorry."

"Currie."

"Currie's in her seat."

"Representative Hicks."

"Representative Hicks is in his seat."

"Representative Keane."

"Representative Jim Keane. Is in his chair."

"Representative Laurino."

"Representative Laurino. Is the Gentleman in the Chamber? Representative Laurino? Remove him. He just came back in the Chamber. Leave him on the Roll Call as an 'aye' vote."

"Who? Representative Farley."

"Representative Farley. Is...Representative Farley in the Chamber? Remove him."

"Representative..."

"Let me remove him first. He's not here. Remove Representative Farley. Further questions?"

"Yeah. Representative Giorgi."

"Representative Giorgi. Representative Giorgi is up in the balcony here over the Speaker's chair."

"Representative White."

"Representative White's in his chair."

"Representative Santiago."

"Representative Santiago. Is Representative Santiago in the Chamber? Please remove him."

"Representative Turner." 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Representative Turner. Is Representative Turner in the Chamber? Please remove him."

"Representative Homer."

"Representative Homer. Is Representative Homer in the Chamber? Please remove him."

"Representative Balanoff."

"Representative Balanoff. Representative Balanoff. Is Representative Balanoff in the Chamber? Yes. Representative Homer is returned to the Chamber. Representative..."

"I think you got...take Balanoff off."

"Representative Balanoff is not in the Chamber. Please remove him. Representative Homer... alright, Representative Balanoff has returned so do not remove him and please add Representative Homer..."

"Where is he?"

"To the Roll Call as an 'aye' vote. Thank you. Further questions?"

"Representative Mautino."

"Representative Mautino. Is the Gentleman in the Chamber? Please remove him. Representative Krska... sorry. Excuse me, Representative Mautino has returned to the Chamber, please add him to the Roll Call."

"Representative Santiago... Oh, did I say that? Martinez."

"Representative Martinez is voting 'no'."

"Okay. Representative Young."

"Representative Young. Was that Anthony or Wyvetter?"

"You can do them both, but Wyvetter first."

"Representative Wyvetter Younge? Is the Lady in the Chamber? Representative Turner has returned to the Chamber, please add Representative Turner to the Roll Call as an 'aye' vote. Representative Wyvetter...Wyvetter just 81  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE came into the Chamber from the rear of the Chamber. And May 26, 1989 Representative Anthony Young is in the aisle. Further questions?"

"Representative Edley."

"Representative Edley has leave to be verified."

"No, no, no. We gave him leave to be verified."

"Any further questions?"

"Representative..."

"Representative Krska has...wishes to change his vote to 'aye'. Representative Drska wishes to change his vote to 'aye'."

"Representative Krska..."

"Let it go."

"No further questions. On this question there are 62 voting 'yes', 48 voting 'no', two voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 85, Representative Ronan. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 85, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Wage Payment and Collection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ronan on House Bill 85."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 85 requires a contractor to pay employees of a subcontractor when wages have not been paid. This responsibility is limited to the outstanding debt owed to the...from the employer for the performance of the contract. This is an opportunity to protect the workers who work for subcontracts when they have an unscrupulous subcontractor who is unwilling to pay these individuals. Be glad to answer any questions."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 85. Does anyone stand in opposition to the Bill? The 82  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 Lady from Cook, Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you. Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative Ronan, how wide spread is this Ronan: problem?" "Significant."

"Well, specifically, number of cases."

"There's been hundreds of cases brought before the State of Illinois, the Attorney General's office and other law enforcement agencies of subcontractors who don't pay their employees after they've received their payment from the prime contractor."

"Of those hundreds of cases, what is the dollar figure?"

"I didn't hear the question."

"Of those hundreds of cases, what is the dollar figure?"

"Millions of dollars."

"Millions of dollars?"

"Yes." Didrickson; "Okay. If I want to avoid this legislation that you're proposing here, might I not then just go out and instead of using subcontractors, hire my own mason, my own electrician, my own carpenter, et cetera. Why would I run the risk then, if this becomes law?"

"Yeah...you're free to do that, Representative. Why don't you go do that? If you want to set up a construction business, my advice is don't use subcontractors. Just set it up as a multi-faceted enterprise similar to your other legislative programs."

"So actually, what you're doing then, is you're in favor...you're against the independent contractors. You're really looking to run them out of business with this 83  49th Legislative Day legislation." STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989

"Representative, I'm thrilled with independent contract... subcontractors who pay their employees. I'm against the ones who don't pay their employees and I think that contractors should hold those subcontractors accountable."

"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"This is not a new concept. We've defeated this in this House. I can tell you that the Illinois Construction Industry Council is opposed to this, the Home Builders Association of Illinois is opposed, the Central Illinois Industrial Association is opposed, the Illinois Sheet Metal Air Conditioning Contractors National Association is opposed and the list goes on and on. Really, what Representative Ronan is going to end up doing is running independent contractors out of business with this bad piece of legislation. The problem isn't what he's saying it is. You know, if there is a concern out there, he's actually using a cannon to kill a gnat and I would say that a 'no' vote, as you've done in the past, defeat this Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 85 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open, this is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. Representative Ronan asks for a poll of the... those not voting."

"Poll of those not voting. Brunsvold. Davis. Hicks. Morrow. Stern. Trotter. Anthony Young and Wyvetter Younge. No further."

"Representative Ronan, do you wish this Bill to be on Postponed? On this question there are 55 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no', 4 voting 'present', this Bill having failed to receive the required Constitutional Majority is 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day hereby declaredlost. House Bill 1078, May 26, 1989 Representative Bowman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 1078, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Wage Payment and Collection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Bowman on House Bill 1078."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is the first time this issue has come to the House floor. This deals with benefit packages for part time employees. This is a growing issue of growing concern, because more and more American industry is turning to part time workers. Part time workers are very often provided not only lower wages, but very often they have no benefits at all. No health insurance. No pensions. Nothing that makes life secure for all of us, who have full time jobs. The worst of it is that, sometimes employers turn to part time workers, not necessarily because they need flexibility in their work force, but because they're trying to circumvent collective bargaining agreements, or they're trying to circumvent legislation that we have worked so hard for over the years to make sure that working men and women have decent work environments and have job security. This legislation has been carefully crafted SO that it applies only to people who are essentially full time workers. They have to work under this law... Bill, they would have to work at least two thirds of a normal working year. At least two thirds of a normal working year.. So these are not seasonal employees, Ladies and Gentlemen, they are basically full time employees. Also, they have to work at least sixty percent of a normal work week. 60 percent of a normal work week, Ladies and Gentlemen. These are not kids who have a job after school at your local McDonald's. These are people who are 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 basically full time employees, because they have to work at least 60 percent of a work week. And then, this only applies to employees of large employers, 500 employees or more, Ladies and Gentlemen, 500 employees and more. So, if you're concerned about the mom and pop operations, don't worry, this Bill will not make life harder for them, will not cause their accountants to stay up late at night worrying over their...the benefit packages for part time employees. This Bill applies only to employers of 500 and more. It's an important issue. I'm proud to say that we are addressing it here for the first time. I ask you to take a good look at this legislation and let's take a step towards improving job security for all working men and women of this state, all working men and women. Thank you very much."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 1078. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Lady from Cook, Representative Didrickson."

"Didrickson. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield, please? For a question."

"Yes, I apologize, Representative Didrickson. Representative Bowman, to answer a question. He indicates he will."

"Yes."

"Representative Bowman does this cover state employees?"

"Yes."

"Does it cover local units of government?"

"Yes."

"So, this is a pretty comprehensive, new idea."

"Yeah, it's pretty...yes, it's pretty comprehensive."

"So it's not only the private sector, it is also the public sector." 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

May 26, 1989 "Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander."

"Okay. Question #2, you talk about...part time employees and giving them benefit packages, and I assume that your Bill addresses part time employees with regards to part time benefits? Or how do you work out those proportionate share of benefits?" Bowman: man: "Well, it's a pro-rata formula based on the number of hours a person works versus the median number of hours for the...it's, I'm sorry...for the mean number of hours worked by the remainder of the work force." Didrickson:

"So, there's a formula?" "Yes, Ma'am."

"So there has to be some computing here?"

"Yes, Ma'am. But most firms with 500 employees or more, I'm sure all have computers. In fact, most of us have computers in our own district offices." I

"Well, think that's what we hear so often from employers and even here when we pass simple Bills with regards to child collection payments, we know what happens when we have to pass and change the fee schedule. But...how would we compute...how would you compute, I'm a part time employee, I work 27 1/2 hours one week, then I work 25 hours under your Bill another week and then I work 30 hours another week, and you provide day care for me. How many hours of that week am I going to be able to bring my child into the day care provision? That benefit?"

"Well, actually day care is one of the easier ones to figure out, because the child would only be there during the hours of your work and so that one would be pretty much self policing. As for the other benefits, the..."

"Then they're getting a hundred percent of the benefit?"

"No, only proportional to the number of hours you work. 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Not a hundred percent of what somebody else works, but proportional to what you work, relative to the rest of the work force."

"Okay, well, okay, let's go on to...I...even though my concern there is obviously the red tape, the computing, the strangulation that you're putting on, not only private employers, but public employers, but..."

"Let me compute...complete the answer to your question. As for these benefits, they are computed on a quarterly basis, so it's not something that you'd have to do every day, every week, every month, but on a quarterly basis, four times a year."

"Have you checked on how this affects 'FUDA'?"

"Would you please repeat the question?"

"Have you checked on how this...what affect this has on 'FUDA'?"

"Oh...well...I don't see how it would affect that. If you have an example you'd like to try out, I'll be happy to respond to it."

"Another question, Representative. You're trying to correct part time workers in the State of Illinois so that they aren't abused and overused, et cetera, and give them the same largesse and the same benefit package as do full time workers. Why not..."

"Not...not the same, proportional. Not the same."

"Proportionate. Okay."

"Yes."

"If I'm an employer and I have deemed that the use of part time employees is beneficial to my retail establishment, let's say I'm Sears Roebuck, alright? Let's say I'm Carson Pirie. Let's say I'm one of those large...firms that you're addressing here."

"Like Sears Roebuck?" 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Why wouldn't I just avoid this and hire two part time workers, now for the one part time worker? In other words, instead of allowing them to work 20 hours a week or 25 hours a week, I'm now going to hire two for the price of one and I'm going to get out from under the benefits that you are trying to address."

"Well, Representative Didrickson, I want people to understand and I'm glad you're helping me make my point...I want people to understand that what this Bill does, it basically addresses people who are, for all practical purposes, full time workers but who are not working exactly 40 hours a week. Nevertheless, they are working basically, a full week. Basically a full year and so these people deserve the same kinds of benefit protections. So I...at least on a proportional basis. So I thank you very much, Representative, for helping me make my point."

"Representative Didrickson, further questions?"

"Yes, I do...the Illinois Department of Employment Security has part time employees, limited to a maximum of 1500 hours a year. Their benefits are pro-rated. Their funding is Title 3, and where will the extra funding come from?"

"Where will the extra funding come from?"

"Right, for these employees, since they get Title 3 funding and you are including state employees."

"Well, Representative Didrickson, I'm sure that all of us on the floor will be able to deal with that when this issue comes before us in the Appropriations process. We deal with issues like this every year. In fact, the...contract was just renegotiated and you will be seeing as the... appropriation Bills float through this Assembly, you'll be seeing the results of that...those negotiations. This is 89  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 something we deal with all the time."

"Excuse me, Representative Did..."

"Well, that's true, we already passed that Appropriation Bill..."

"Excuse me, Representative Preston...excuse me, Representative Didrickson...the timer has just gone off. I put it on when you started your second question. If you could bring your remarks to a close, I'd appreciate it."

"I'd like to close then. To the Bill. The fiscal impact here is not only what we're going to do to the large businesses as Representative Bowman says in the State of Illinois, strangling them with more red tape. It also affects local units of government, everybody, it affects State Government. This is a major new piece of legislation. The Representative, I'm certain, is trying to address an issue that's riddled with loopholes, that...if an employer really wants to get around it, he or she certainly is going to the fiscal impact. I don't think we've even begun to address what that might mean. It's an idea who's time certainly has not come."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Krska."

"Mr. Sponsor, what would prevent the employer from...it's presently, it's be a 25 hours minimum, correct?"

"Only...a person has to work at least 25 hours a week."

"What would prevent the employer from dropping it down to 20 hours per week?"

"Well, Representative Krska...I'm sure that if the employer wanted to continue to evade laws that he could lower to person's work to 20 hours a week, but they could do it right now....the problem we have, Representative, is that there are some employers who are trying to evade other 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 laws in collective bargaining agreements and this is an effort to try and plug that loophole."

"No, I mean right now, there are no benefits for part time employees. Correct?"

"That's right. None, zero."

"So, he would not reduce...he has no benefit to the employer himself to reduce it by four hours or five hours. It sounds like a good Bill, but I don't believe its practical or neither do I believe it could work."

"Well, the Bill would simply make it harder for employers to do...to chisel on existing laws and collective bargaining agreements. But, you're probably correct that there will always be somebody who can chisel a little further. But basically we're trying to make it harder for employers who just want to skirt the law to cut off people from benefits."

"Well, I think the one's that we're trying to entrap would be the Jewel's, the Dominick's, your chain stores, who are now hiring nothing but part time employees. And I'm sure what they would do is just hire more employees and work them less hours. It sounds good, but I don't believe that it would practically work and that's why I'm sorry, I'd have to vote against the Bill. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1078 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. This is final passage. Representative Preston to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this Bill. We've been talking for years about getting people off the tax eating rolls and allowing them to become taxpayers. This allows women and others who, because of the necessity of caring for a family, want to nonetheless, seek part time work to permit them to support their 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 families or help in the support of their families. This Bill will do it and let people who want to work go to work, rather than staying home and remaining on welfare. I'd like to see green votes here. This Bill is long overdue. It's a good concept and I hope people will support it."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Contrary with the previous speaker, I would say the reason why I'm voting 'no' on this legislation, it's going to have an adverse effect. The practicality is, if a business man or a woman has a corporation that big, they have the flexibility who to hire full time and who to hire part time. They just will not hire part time employees. That'll just mean that that very person he just alluded to will not have a job, because they will not be able to afford to keep them on. This in fact is an anti-jobs Bill, not a pro-jobs Bill."

"Representative Bowman, one minute to explain his vote."

"Yes, just wanted to point out to the Members of the Assembly that more and more people are having to turn to part time employment for the support of their families. Almost every household these days has at least two wage earners, and very often the second wage earner is a part time employee. And the reason that they have to have two wage earners is to maintain a standard of living. And it's very important that those people who depend upon part time employment to maintain their standard of living, must have access to health care and must have access to pension benefits and so forth. That is the reason for this legislation and Ladies and Gentlemen if it doesn't pass now, I can guarantee you, you'll see it again and again 92  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 because this is a growing problem."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there are 50 voting 'yes', 57 voting 'no', 6 voting 'present'. Representative Preston, do you wish Postponed Consideration? Representative Preston, do you wish Postponed...Representative Bowman. This Bill having failed to receive the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. The Chair would like to acknowledge the presence of a former Senate staffer and now John Dunn's Congressman. Congressman Richard Durbin. Congressman Durbin is over here. Congressman, welcome. Congressman, you should know we passed a rule that says you can't smoke on the House floor, too. I know you're concerned about smoking. House Bill 1343, Representative Kulas. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 1343, a Bill for an Act in relation to unpaid leave. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Kulas on House Bill 1343."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1343 is the Family Leave Act of 1989. This Bill would require an employer with 50 or more employees...I stress 50 or more employees...to grant up to eight weeks...eight weeks of unpaid leave...and I stress the word 'unpaid leave'..."

"Excuse me, Representative Kulas, there is a Floor Amendment that's been filed by yourself that has not been adopted. Do you wish to adopt that Amendment? The Bill's on Third Reading."

"I believe the Amendment was adopted already. Amendment #8 or 7?"

"Seven."

"Mr. Clerk, was Amendment #7 adopted?" 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"The Calendar says Amendment 8 is adopted. We have Amendment 7 here in the file."

"As long as Amendment #8 was adopted, I would table the other Amendment."

"Well it's...the Bill's on Third Reading, so there's no need to table it. Proceed, I'm sorry, go ahead."

"Okay. What the Bill...would do for...would give unpaid leave to any of its employees for the following reasons: for the birth of a child, for the adoption of a child or the foster care placement of a child, or for the illness of a child, spouse or parent. During the period of these...this unpaid leave, the employee has the right to continue at his or her own expense any insurance provided by the employer. Employees on unpaid leave could not be deprived of their seniority or other benefits. The modern family today that has emerged since World War II is different from that which had existed earlier. We no longer have the father as the bread winner and the mother as the homemaker. Now it takes two incomes for a family to keep its head above water. Today, 57 percent of mothers with children under the age of three hold jobs outside the home, compared with only 12 percent in 1950. By the year 2000, more than half of the work force will consist of women and more than 80 percent of these women will be mothers. Accompanying this phenomenon has been a steady increase in the number of single parent homes...or single parents who in the event of a family crisis have only themselves to rely upon. In addition, with people living longer, adults are confronted with the problem of aging parents who must be cared for. One in every eight people living in Illinois is over 65 years of age. Over 90 percent of these people live independently or with family 94  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 members, where the bulk of the health care is provided by family members. House Bill 1343 has certain benefits for business. First of all, House Bill 1343 exempts employers with fewer than 50 employees. This excludes 94 percent of the employers in the State of Illinois. But, it still covers 64 percent of the employees in the State of Illinois. To be eligible, the employee has to work at least 20 hours a week for 12 consecutive months. Ladies and Gentlemen, what we have seen in the United States has been a slow disintegration of the family unit. It is a sad fact that the United States is only one of four industrialized nations in the world without a nationally mandated parental leave program. Do you...you want to know who the other countries are? The Sudan, Upper Volta and South Africa. Everyone else has addressed this problem. So far, six other states have passed laws requiring unpaid job protected family leave programs. Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut have had the foresight to take this lead in facing a major crisis in the United States. If we want to keep the integrity of the family and at the same time stabilize our work force, I would ask you to vote 'aye' on this Bill. Because all the money in the world will not educate our children, will not reduce crime, will not curtail the use of drugs until we bring back the family as the nucleus of our society. House Bill 1343 will do a lot to solidify the family unit and I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 1343. Does anyone stand in opposition? On that question, the Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

"Well, thank...thank you very much, Mr. Speaker and to the Gentleman's Bill. You know, we've seen this before and I 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 certainly commend him. He's made some changes in this Bill that certainly make it somewhat less objectionable, but I rise in opposition even though he has done an outstanding job of trying to address some of the concerns that people have. You know...there's nothing more important to me and probably any of us on this House floor, than my wife and my two children. And the Gentleman is right, we are a two income or two worker family. But you know, we were able to work out some arrangements with our employers when our children were infants and we got through. And I guess what gives some of us some difficulty in getting up is the very title of the Bill. Family Leave. Maybe we should really call it what it is and that's government intrusion into the collective bargaining process or the Government Mandates Act of 1989. Because that's what we're really going to do here. We're going to interfere and position the State of Illinois into the collective bargaining process if you're covered by an agreement, or worse yet, you're going to remove the flexibility that people have with their employer. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly, what we're really attempting to do here is to simply legislate or mandate various benefits and if we're going to continue to do that, then maybe we just ought to abrogate all collective bargaining agreements and we'll handle that from Springfield in our very eminent wisdom. I really think that the issue at hand simply says, that we don't think the human involved...the family unit involved and the employer and/or his bargaining agent can deal with this situation. Well, I think they can. There is a labor shortage out there and it's going to, if you believe the demographic projections, it's going to get worse as the '90's come upon us. If we continue to remove the flexibility that employers and employees and/or their bargaining agents have 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 at the table, then I think you're going to do a great deal not to enhance the family unit, but to destroy the marketplace in this state, take jobs elsewhere, and if you really want to do damage to the family unit, let's just continue the process of exporting our jobs to other states who don't get in to these kinds of state mandated benefits. The Gentleman has a Bill that has certainly been improved from what we saw last year. But I would submit to you it still puts the state in an area that I don't think we are really qualified, nor should we attempt to be in, and that is trying to tell people you don't know how, you can't, you're not capable of working out flexible arrangements to take care of your family needs. We're going to do that for you on a rigid basis. I really think that the Gentleman's Bill will have the opposite effect and I rise in opposition and urge you to vote 'no' on this measure."

"The Gentleman's moved for the passage of House Bill 1343 and that question...all those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. This is final passage. Representative Hultgren, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It happens every year. Both business and labor come to Springfield and try to have us impose in their collective bargaining agreements that which they couldn't win at the table. Last year it was business. They came down here and asked for a law which would nullify successor clauses, which had been negotiated in good faith in collective bargaining agreements. At that time I voted 'no', because I didn't believe that we should enter into the collective bargaining process and abrogate agreements. Well, I believe the same rule applies today with regard to family leave. It should not be this General Assembly that determines what's in the contracts, but it 97  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 should be labor and management sitting down at the table and negotiating together. Accordingly, I vote 'no'."

"Representative Breslin, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This legislation has...is well drafted. It has a great Sponsor. It is without a doubt the best pro-family vote we could cast this year. This Bill sets social policy for this state. It's something that holds families together. It's not something that should be left to individual employers throughout this state. This is our job. This is a good pro-family vote and I urge 'aye' votes."

"Representative Didrickson, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm a pretty good female Legislator with regards to women's issues, but this is one that we are doing on the business community, just as we've done on the education community over the last ten years. We're seeingit out in the business community, all the mandates that we have put on our schools. We are now having visited us on our businesses and I just...a word of caution on that, a word of caution."

"Representative Black, for what purpose do you Black: seek recognition?" "Well, reluctantly, Mr. Speaker, should the Bill get the requisite number of votes, I would ask for a verification."

"Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 67 votes. Representative Black, do you wish a verification? The Gentleman withdraws his request for a verification. On this question, there are 67 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no', none voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Order of Elections, Second Reading, House Bill 2380. Out of the record. House Bill 2706, Representative Mautino. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 2706, a Bill for an Act to amend The Election Code. This Bill's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Breslin."

"Representative Breslin on Amendment #1."

"Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, Amendment #1 would provide that any appointed state official whose appointment is subject to confirmation by the Senate or any political committee of that official would be prohibited from soliciting or from accepting contributions from any entity that does business with his agency, his or her agency, or that that agency happens to regulate. In addition to that, the provision would prohibit any political committee from making a transfer in to that particular agency head or his or her political committee from funds that are tainted that would ordinarily be prohibited otherwise. Very similar to the federal prohibition on such transfers in. The reason for the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen is that it's my opinion that we create a very distressing impression of impropriety by allowing agency heads that work for this executive to accept contributions either directly or through political campaigns from people that they do business with. There is an editorial today in the Tribune. It pretty much said that Chicago and the Kremlin are ready for governmental ethics reform. Is Springfield? This is one of those questions. I hope you don't say 'no'. I am happy to answer any questions." 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1. On that question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kubik."

"Thank you Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Would the Lady yield?"

"Proceed."

"Representative, the Amendment, as I understand it, would cover any appointed state official whose appointment was subject to confirmation. Is that correct?"

"That's correct."

"Okay, so I would assume that that would include department heads of the Governor's office?"

"That's correct."

"What about the Comptroller's office?"

"The Comptroller is the head of his office. There aren't separate department heads that are...that require confirmation by the Senate."

"The Comptroller's office has department heads that are required... that have confirmation by the Senate?"

"No. I don't believe such people exist."

"What about the Treasurer's office?"

"I don't believe such people exist."

"What about the Secretary of State's office?"

"I don't believe such people exist. If they do, they would be covered by this Act, and the purpose for it, Representative, is that these people already have...these people control, I guess you would say they participate and have the final decision on who gets state contracts. And the public should not be put in a position of having to deal with these people on a day to day basis with perhaps...not the expectation on the part of the department head, but on the expectation of the person who is doing the business that they ought to be making political 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day contributions."

"Well Representative, I can appreciate where you're coming from, but I would argue also that perhaps maybe the Chief of Operations in the Treasurer's office, who is appointed, but perhaps not approved by the Senate, also has a great deal of power. Or the Chief of the Banking Division of the Treasurer's office might also have a great deal of discretion as to where funds go and...or perhaps the Personnel Director of the Comptroller's office, or the Deputy Comptroller, but yet in this particular legislation, these people...they're not covered under this particular Act. And I just was curious as to why the legislation seems...excuse me by using the term, but...sometime punitive against the Governor's office."

"It's certainly not intended to be punitive, Representative Kubik. It's my view that the buck doesn't stop with anybody in those other offices than you mentioned except with the elected official. In the other circumstances, the state agencies make determinations on who gets contracts. Who they regulate and you can put people out of business or not put people out of business, made by their decisions. Those decisions don't then go up to the Governor's office for approval. On the contrary, in the other offices that you mentioned, I think the buck stops with the elected official and if he does something, or she does something that is inappropriate, the public has an opportunity to respond at the next election. This doesn't happen with an appointed official."

"Well Representative, they still have a great deal of power and discretion under these particular...under this particular legislation. And so what you're saying is that if a department head from the executive branch wished to run for alderman of the City of Springfield and it just SO 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day happened that May 26, 1989 somebody...his neighbor...had some business with the state, even though it may not be directly related, that person could not contribute to that campaign."

"Oh no, no, no. They have to do direct business directly with that person's agency. Not with anybody in the state, but it must be somebody that does business with that agency."

"But if that person is running for a local office..."

"It specifically says in line...on page 1, line 32, 'The person or entity that does business with or is regulated by the state agency that the official serves'. So it's very narrow in scope."

"Well. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill."

"Proceed."

"It's always kind of interesting, with all due respect to the Sponsor, and I have the utmost respect for her, for the Lady from LaSalle, but you know, it seems to me that this particular provision is punitive in nature. While she would argue that they may not have the...the buck doesn't stop there, I would argue that many of those other agencies do...do offer a lot of discretionary power over where money is spent, how contracts are offered. I'd also argue, you know, in this year, this day of ethics, it often seems that we take the attitude...not only in this House, or in this body...but in Congress. Do what I say, but don't do what I do. And you know, we've got...we're saying that we shouldn't allow department heads to solicit contributions or we shouldn't...they shouldn't go in to business after they've left the government, and yet in this House...I would argue that most of the people who leave this House, if they aren't leaving by feet first, end up as lobbyists and consultants who come back and lobby our own Members. And yet we have no prohibition against those people. We 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 have no prohibition against other people in government who have jobs and then turn around and go into private industry. We have no prohibition against those people. So I think that this is extremely obvious that this particular Amendment is a punitive Amendment against the Governor's office and I think what we ought to do is treat this as a politically punitive Amendment and we ought to vote it 'no'...down, and give it a resounding 'no'. Mr. Speaker, I would ask for a Roll Call on this particular Amendment."

"The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Stange. Oh, I'm sorry. Representative...it's Representative Olson's light is right in front of yours, I inadvertently called on you, Sir. I apoligize. The Gentleman from Lee, Representative Olson." Olson, M.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will." Olson, M.: "Representative Breslin, I'd take this...I'd like to take this to another level. As I understand it, the election law in Illinois is all encompassing. No county exclusions. Should be applicable to all areas and agencies. Are you suggesting that the possibility exists that in the City of Dixon, my town, or the City of Chicago, or wherever we should live that any appointees of the chief administrator would be encompassed in this suggestion? Why would we limit this only to the State of Illinois employees or appointments?"

"Well, quite frankly Representative, the reason that I limited it to State...of Illinois employees was because that is where I know this...that the citizens are currently addressed by this problem. If it is also going on on the local level, I would certainly be happy to work 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 with you to craft an Amendment that you think would be appropriate. I think it should be understood that we are not...I am not suggesting here that we should in any way dampen a citizen's enthusiasm or interest in running for public office. Instead, I think we should promote that, but by the same token, I don't think they should be allowed to use their office inappropriately in order to gain undue advantage for that." Olson, M.: "I just have two more questions, Representative Breslin. Has there been a large hue and outcry about this practice? I have received no mail in my district, have you?"

"I have certainly heard about it and from those I have heard about it, they have been appalled by it." Olson, M.: "Dismayed...dis..."

"As a matter of fact, it first came up in city government, as I recall, a number of years ago and at that time, the mayor of the City of Chicago issued an executive edict indicating that his department heads could not establish political committees or accept contributions on their own behalf for their own political ambitions and that policy has carried over with every subsequent administration. The Governor of this State has not seen his way to assume that kind of ethical standard. I might also add that it is a...also the basis for President Bush's ethical standard for his agency heads. I think it's something that he's done and done well and I think the people of the State of Illinois would appreciate our doing the same thing." Olson, M.: "I must add one more question. When I said one more, I'm going to have two more. Is it fairly reasonable to assume that the newly elected mayor of Chicago is looking for significant flexibility in both discharging and 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day employing new people in his administration?"

"I have no idea." Olson, M.: "Well, if you've been able to follow the the May 26, 1989 account of Chicago Board of Election Commissioners, Mickey 'Zoehler' feels there's been discrimination on Blacks and Hispanics who previously worked in that agency. Would this be a good place to look at it?"

"I'm sorry, I don't have any idea what that has to relate to this Amendment."

"Well, we're just talking about the flexibility of appointees who run agencies, i.e., a Governor or mayor to have some discretion in who they appoint and whether they can solicit monies."

"I suppose that they do. The question is, 'What is the right social policy? What should be the governmental ethics for the citizens who serve the people of the State of Illinois?' That's what we're here to address."

"Okay. Then I think this probably, Representative, should be addressed in Committee, rather than an Amendment comes on a Bill that's been laying around for three months and has never had a Committee. Just one more question. Will you be as much in favor of this device in January of 1991, should someone else become the Governor of the State of Illinois?"

"Absolutely. Absolutely. Unqualified. Absolutely." Olson, M.: "Well, I'm hearing a lot of people say, 'Kill! Kill!' on your side. I rest my case. I suggest this is not a good measure."

"The Lady's moved for the adoption of Amendment #1, House Bill 2706. On that question, all those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Representative Hasara has one minute to explain her vote." 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"Mr. Speaker, I had a question."

"Well, perhaps she can explain her vote so you can pose the question."

"The question is, Representative, does this encompass board and commission members that the Governor appoints who are confirmed by the Senate?"

"Yes, it does. If they are confirmed by the Senate, because they participate in regulating particular agencies and they should not accept contributions from the people that they regulate."

"To explain my vote, Mr. Speaker. There are hundreds of good citizens in this State who serve without pay on these boards and commissions. We often have trouble filling these slots as it is. This would be very prohibitive on these good citizens in this State."

"Representative Homer, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a hard time seeing why any who support good government and ethics in government would be opposed to this Amendment. There's a big difference between elected officials soliciting contributions. Ultimately, we're the ones who must run for office and ultimately the people will judge our performance and our ethical activities. This Bill would prohibit appointed officials from soliciting and accepting campaign contributions from those companies or individuals with whom they have a fiduciary relationship and to whom they have business dealings. I can see no compelling reason to allow appointed officials to raise campaign funds from those entities. This Bill is a good government Bill. It's one that tries to inject ethics into the process. It's one that your constituents would be for and I think it's a shame that we would have those who would support...or would 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 reject this kind of an effort."

"Representative Black."

"Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To explain my vote. You know the Sponsor of this Amendment is noted, I think, for her fairness. But let me point out something...it's my understanding that this Amendment was never even discussed in Committee. Never discussed in Committee. Now if this is a good government issue, then let's bring it back and put it through the Committee process. The same Sponsor raised an issue earlier this morning when Mr. Hallock had a Bill that had failed in Committee and he tried to attach it to another Bill that we voted on this morning. The Lady objected to this and said that's not the way we should do business. Well, I think fair is fair. If this was never even discussed in Committee, I would simply submit that it needs to go through the Committee process, get a full and fair hearing and let the Sponsor bring it back as a Bill. Thank you very much."

"Representative Ropp, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I think that we are all in support of ethics, but I guess I'm having a little bit of trouble determining what the difference between this proposal is and...oh, let's take Members of this body who...well let's say are attorneys, for example, who may get contracts for the state. Is there any difference there. Representative?"

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there are 44 voting 'yes', 55 voting 'no' and 7 voting 'present'. This Amendment fails. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments." 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"Third Reading. Mr. Mautino, do you wish to call the Bill now? On Third Reading?"

"Well basically, Mr. Speaker, the small change that's embodied in this legislation does not, of course, contain the Lady's Amendment. I have no problem at all with calling that Bill and sending it over to the Senate."

"Well, we'll take it out of the record then. Fine. Representative McCracken. On page 26 of the Calendar, House Bill 2106, Representative DeLeo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 2106, a Bill for an Act to amend the Home Equity Assurance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the Bill out of the record. Representative McCracken's objected, I believe. His mike wasn't on, but I think I heard him. Mr. Clerk, could you please read any Republican Bill that you'd like? Page 7 of the Calendar, House Bill 34. Representative Hicks. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 34, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. This Bill's been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Any further Amend..any Motions filed with respect to Amendment #1?"

"No Motions relating to Committee Amendment #1."

"Any floor Amendments?"

"No floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill on Third Reading."

"House Bill 34, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Hicks on House Bill 34,"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 34 is a shell Bill. The only Bill to 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day come out of the Horse Racing Committee this May 26, 1989 year. It's sponsored by Representative McCracken and myself. I'd ask for passage of this shell Bill over to the Senate and we're working on negotiations now."

"Well, you said the magic word. The Gentleman's moved for the passage of House Bill 34. Is there any questions? Being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 34 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there are 106 voting 'aye, 3 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 317, Representative Cowlishaw. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 317, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Cowlishaw. House Bill 317."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I please have permission to return this Bill to Second Reading?"

"The Lady asks leave to bring House Bill 317 to Second Reading. The Bill's on Second Reading. Are there any Amendments, Mr. Clerk?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Cowlishaw."

"Representative Cowlishaw on Amendment #1."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #1 consists of the definition of proficiency that was approved by the State Board of Education and I move for its adoption."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 317. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1 (sic Amendment 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 1) be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Representative Cowlishaw, on House Bill 317."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The consumer education teachers...the statewide Consumer Education Teachers Association came to me and asked me to Sponsor this Bill so that we would have a definition of the term proficiency in the School Code. They had some suggested language which the State Board of Education thought could be improved. The Amendment we have just adopted is the improved language. It has been agreed to by the State Board of Education. It will accommodate the desires of the statewide organization of consumer education teachers, and in their behalf I move for the adoption of House Bill 317 as amended."

"Any discussion? Gentleman from McLean, Representative Ropp."

"Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, would the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Representative, this doesn't have anything to do with the number of times one may proficiency this particular course, does it?"

"Representative Ropp, as I just explained, all this Bill does is provide a definition of the word 'proficiency', it does nothing else."

"Then the word could have just been 'no', right? Thank you."

"Further discussion? There being none, the question is... I'm sorry. Representative Davis." 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will." May 26, 1989

"Representative, does this Bill require that a test be taken or not be taken?"

"No. Representative, a couple of years ago we adopted something of which I was the Sponsor, that provided for students to have the opportunity if they chose to take advantage of that opportunity, to take a proficiency examination to determine whether they were already knowledgeable about the materials that are taught in the classroom in consumer education. That Bill was passed and those tests have been given now, for two or three years. However, the consumer education teachers wanted to be assured that in fact what the goal of that test was, was in fact real proficiency, that students should have to demonstrate that they really were proficient in that work that is normally offered in the classroom. Therefore, this Bill is offered to define the term 'proficiency', so there is no question but what students have to meet very high standards in order to pass this test. That is all this Bill does."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Yes, Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Speaker, is there a cost involved with this program, or is it volunteer work?"

"I beg your pardon? I'm sorry..."

"Is there a cost involved in promulgating the... Is there a fiscal note? Is there a cost to this, or is this strictly volunteer work?"

"Sir, all this does is define the word 'proficiency'."

"Well, hell, I could buy you a Webster's Dictionary for five bucks and tell you that. Is there a cost involved?"

"No, Sir, there is not." 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Or are they going to do it on a voluntary basis?"

"I beg your pardon? I couldn't hear you."

"Shall I use Italian or do you want the English vernacular?"

"Well, either way I seem to have trouble understanding you."

"That's right, you should have your ears refracted. You should have your ears refracted. Is there a cost involved with this Bill, or is it going to be done with volunteers?"

"This Bill does not change anything in the existing School Code. It simply defines the word 'proficiency' at the request of the statewide organization of consumer education teachers."

"Would it be considered a mandate?"

"No, Sir, there is nothing involved in this Bill that has anything whatever to do with a mandate."

"But when it be...when it goes into the state statutes, doesn't that become a mandate?"

"Representative, I thought we were trying to move as fast as we could today. This Bill was requested by the statewide organization of consumer education teachers. They asked that a clear definition of the word 'proficiency' be provided in the School Code. Since the president of that statewide organization is my neighbor and lives on the same block, I thought as a nice neighbor it would be a good idea for me to do what they had requested. That is all this Bill does."

"Alright, I want to be neighborly and I'm going to support her. I'll be neighborly and I'll support her."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 317 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 the record. On this question there are 113...114 voting 'aye', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Giorgi, House Bill 263. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 263, a Bill for an Act to amend the Sanitary District Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Giorgi, on House Bill 263."

"This is a Bill we debated last night with the agreed Amendments in the Executive Committee. The Amendments were passed by Clem and Representative Parcells and the Leaders on the other side of the aisle. And I know of no objection to this Bill. I urge for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 263. Is there any discussion? The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."

"Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Does this cost anything. Costs."

"Representative Giorgi."

"It's a special service. They levy tax among themselves."

"Is it a mandate? Is it a mandate?"

"No. No mandate."

"No mandate, no cost. But there..."

"You sound better then you..."

"But there's a tax involved, right?"

"No, there isn't. Not unless they vote it in."

"Is there a referendum on the issue?"

"It's... Everyone that's involved is notified by official notification. They attend a meeting, there's proper notice in the newspaper and the entire gauntlet is a creation of special services."

"Alright. Thank you, very much." 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"I think you understand it pretty well."

"Thank you, very much."

"I think you need the Bill." May 26, 1989

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 263 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting's open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there are 70 voting 'aye', 41 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 400, Representative Ropp. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. House Bill 400,"

"House Bill 400, a Bill for an Act relating to the cancellation of drivers' licenses and permits of dropouts. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ropp, on House Bill 400."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an attempt to help reduce dropouts in the State of Illinois. I appreciate your support."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 400. On this question the Gentleman from Macon, Representative Dunn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Postponed. Didn't we vote on this once already?"

Isn't this on the Order of Speaker Cullerton: "Yes, we did."

"And why are we going back to this Bill, when there are Members that haven't had their own Bill called? I ask this Gentleman to take this out of the record SO we can have other Members that haven't had a Bill called, have an opportunity."

"Alright, we'll take the Bill out of the record then. Representative Cowlishaw, would you like to try to pass another Bill? How about House Bill 565? Mr. 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Clerk, please read the Bill."

May 26, 1989 "House Bill 565, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to life safety and fire prevention inspections. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Cowlishaw, on House Bill 565."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 565 as amended, has only two provisions. One is, that all of the reports that are required under current law to be prepared by regional superintendents of schools, once the investigations for the purposes of life safety and fire safety have been conducted annually within each school in the region, should be sent not just to the local board of education, as is currently required, but should also be sent to the State Board of Education. And second, that all of the regional superintendents who are responsible for seeing to it that these investigations are conducted, are going to be required to use the standardized forms provided for that purpose by the State Board of Education, which has been conducting a study and is now nearly...has nearly concluded that study and will have those standardized forms available very shortly. That is all the Bill does. I move for its adoption." Speaker Cullerton: 565. "The Lady moves for the passage of House Bill Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 565 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there's 114 voting 'yes', none voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 712, Representative Steczo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"House Bill 712, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. This Bill has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Representative Steczo, on House Bill 712."

"Committee Amendment 1...no Motions relating to Committee Amendment 1. Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Ronan."

"Representative Ronan, Amendment #2. Representative Steczo, are you familiar with this Amendment?"

"Mr. Speaker, Representative Ronan is not here, but I'll accept Amendment #2. It deletes Cook County from the Bill."

"Okay. The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #2, and on that question, Representative Black."

"You might... Mr. Speaker, you might wish to have the Clerk review this. Staff tells me Amendment #2 is probably out of order."

"Well, I'll ask the Parliamentarian to..."

"Or whoever."

"...look at the Amendment. Representative Black, could you be...specifically, to perhaps to save some time, how do you think the Bill... Amendment's out of order?"

"Well, our staff tells us that unless Amendment #1 was tabled and we didn't hear that it was, that they believe Amendment #2 is then out of order."

"The Chair would like to announce that the change of votes, the time for changing your votes on the Agreed List, is over and the...well, you have one minute to rush up to the podium and file your change of votes. I'll put the timer on. Representative Ronan, the Gentleman's 116  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 point is well taken. Amendment #2 is out of order. Representative Steczo. Representative Steczo."

"Mr. Speaker, would it be appropriate at this time to table Amendment #1?"

"Gentleman moves to table Amendment #1 to House Bill 712. All in favor of tabling Amendment #1 say 'aye', all opposed. In the opinion of the Chair, the Amendment is tabled. Now Representative Ronan has moved for the passage of Amendment #2. It is no longer out of order. All in favor of Amendment #2 say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it and Amendment #2 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, is being offered by Representative Steczo."

"Representative Steczo, on Amendment #3."

"Withdraw Amendment #3, Mr. Speaker."

"Withdraw #3. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Representative Steczo, on Amendment #4."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The Bill in its original form lengthened the cab of you know various trucks. What Amendment #4 does, is takes the...just only the 55 foot cab and increases that to take into account cab-overs to 57 feet, 6 inches, and if that is not acceptable to the Department of Transportation in the Senate, that will be withdrawn. So I would move for its adoption."

"Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #4 is adopted. Any 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments." May 26, 1989

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 712."

"House Bill 712, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Steczo, on House Bill 712."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 712 is an attempt to try to deal with the...a thorny problem that effects commerce throughout the State of Illinois. And it's a question of vehicle access. Under the current law vehicles operating on interstate highways have five miles to be...from the ingress/regress points of those highways to utilize local roads for food, fuel, repairs and rest, as well as delivery. What's happening is that local authorities are not posting those roads so therefor it's almost impossible for these trucks to have access. What we have done...what we will do eventually in House Bill 712, is to say that it would be fine for those...for those trucks not to be able to use local roads for such things as fuel, food, repairs and rest, because close to interstates that kind of...that kind of thing is accessible and there's no need to do that. However, we would like to say that those local authorities shall designate points of...for points of loading and unloading. So the local businessperson can make certain that those deliveries are there. We've talked to the Department of Transportation, we've talked to the Municipal League, we've talked to local road commissioners and others, and we've also provided that if there are roads in their jurisdictions that simply cannot take the weights or what have you, they would have every right to make certain that those roads are exempt. But it's come to our attention 118  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 that there are local people who cannot get access to trucks for approach of loading and unloading of deliveries. This is an attempt to try to do that without all the rigamarole that has to go on, now. And it will be further refined in the Senate based on our tabling of Amendment #2, but I think it's a very necessary Bill, one that's very needed and I would appreciate your 'aye' votes, or would ask to answer any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 712. Does anyone stand in opposition? The Gentleman from Logan, Representative Robert Olson." Olson, B.: "Thank you. This is the annual Bill that does not set well with downstate small communities, counties and townships. These trucks, eighty thousand pounds and very long, are built for interstate highways, interstate highways with about ten to twelve inches of concrete and several feet of base under those highways. The reason that some of these muni...small municipalities and local government units have not designated routes, is we just plain and simple do not have these roads and it does become a problem. The smaller communities, township roads, we move produce, chemicals, grain, fertilizer and the larger trucks will use our roads to do...to haul these products. These blacktop roads are three or four inches thick. They will crumble under the weight. If you're in a small community or even in you're larger communities and your parked at an intersection and one of these trucks want to turn, you know that they have to crowd off, you have to either move out of the way or back up while they make the turn. The trucks are designed for one purpose, they're wanting to take their extra length and their extra weight on streets and roads that they're not designed for. I urge that there're a 'no' vote on this." 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Any further discussion? Representative Countryman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Representative Steczo, yields for a question."

"Does this apply now to all counties in the state?"

"Representative Countryman, under the...under the Amendment that was adopted, it does not apply to Cook County, only because the Trucker's Association has agreed that for all intents and purposes the roads in Cook County being able to handle the additional weights are really not the problem, but there is a need for some access on local roads in other parts of the state. I would, however, like to assure everybody this is not the Bill that is introduced every year, because the Bills that we have heard prior gave complete and unrestricted access to trucks off the interstate. While Amendment #1 was tabled, it's my intention to put the language back in that says, 'Only...only designated routes to points of loading and unloading.' And in terms of Representative Olson's concern about local roads not having the base to be able to handle the weight subject to the provisions of Section 5...15-316 of the Code, which allow those local authorities to say no. They say no and restrict access to any roads they wish."

"And now there's currently a five mile limit on this. Is that right? Are you going to take that five mile limit out?"

"That's not changing. And in fact, the problem is, is that the local officials simply will not designate roads. As I mentioned earlier, the law says, 'Five miles for points of rest and sleep and gas and what have you.' We're saying that you don't have to designate it for those purposes. All you have to do is designate a route for 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 loading and unloading so that local merchants and local business can be able to get access to the...those deliveries."

"Right, and how many pounds are we going to go to now? How many thousands of pounds?"

"It would stay whatever the law currently allows. We do not change that."

"Well, there was some talk, at least in my area earlier in the year, of raising that up to a higher limit, four or five thousands pounds higher. We haven't done that."

"That has not changed at all."

"Alright. So, you have no intention of raising the number of pounds. Is that right?"

"Absolutely not. That's not the intention of this Bill."

"Alright. And would this apply to grain trucks that are hauling grain that's been loaded or unloaded from elevators."

"I presume it would apply, but again, those local officials would be able to stipulate that if the roads don't have the base to be able to handle the weights, those roads will not be used."

"Alright. And then the other thing which always seems to be important here for those of us representing rural areas, that somehow that's noted posted so that the truck driver isn't going down the road that he can't go down and get..."

"Please bring your remarks to a close, Representative Countryman."

"Well, I just want you to take into consideration that the posting should be important, so these truckers know where they're going, when they're going and if they're on the right road, because if you get them on the wrong road, you're talking about a substantial fine and penalty 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day for violation."

May 26, 1989 "The question is, 'Shall House Bill 712 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. One minute to explain your vote, Representative Parcells."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really wanted to ask a question. I think we were given the impression that a town could say no to certain roads and that's probably true, but they also had to designate certain roads, it wasn't just a matter of no. Here yesterday we voted down a gasoline tax saying that we don't have enough money for roads, and yet today, we're going to say we're going to crumble those roads with these great heavy weights, and furthermore you have to designate some of those roads to be available. This is opposed by the Municipal League, the township officials, Association of County Superintendents of Highways and most of all by 'IDOT', cause it's going to ruin their roads. I would suggest a 'no' vote."

"Representative Steczo, to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker, just to explain. The language that will go back in, in the Senate was agreed to by the Illinois Municipal League, who said they've got no problem designating the access routes, because they agree that there should be some route by which these points of loading and unloading can be reached. We also met with the township road commissioners and assured them that there will be nothing in this Bill that would allow them to...that would not allow them to designate the roads, or to say no to those trucks using roads that don't have the base. The Department of Transportation says we'll do whatever the local people want. So the Municipal League, in fact, has said that they would support this language, because it does give them the right to say no and they also 122  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 understand that they have to tell the trucks where they have to go and the trucks cannot use any other route but those."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk... Mr. Hartke, one minute...have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there are 65 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no', 3 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1262, Representative Saltsman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 1262, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Saltsman, on House Bill 1262."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, this gives the same privilege to a industrial building being built in an enterprise zone that will be an estimated cost of over sixty million dollars, the same as one that creates 200 jobs. I ask for its passage."

"Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 1262. The question is, 'Shall 1262 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there are 95 voting 'yes', 16 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2312, Representative Goforth. Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 2312."

"House Bill 2312, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the Bill out of the record. Representative McCracken, on House Bill 648. 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day House Bill 648, Representative McCracken. Out of the record. House Bill 946, Representative Kirkland. Mr. May 26, 1989 Clerk, please read the Bill."

"House Bill 946, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Kirkland, on House Bill 946."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill amends the School Code to provide for title to school buildings and school sites to be vested in the school district when there are no trustees of schools for the township within which a school building or school site is located. This applies to a couple of school districts up in...on the border of Cook County that have...that are in both Cook County and a collar county, in which case they are under the auspices of the Regional Superintendent of the collar county and have not...and therefore under the School have a...their own school treasurer...their own district treasurer. This would allow the vesting of property in that...in the school district rather than in a township treasurer, which is now the case except in vocational facility situations. So this would...in this particular...in this particular instance, this would allow Barrington Township to purchase...excuse me, Barrington school district to purchase a piece of property in Cook County, even though they don't have a township treasurer...a township treasurer for their school district."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of House Bill 946. Does anyone stand in opposition? Representative Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, on a Point of Order. You know, for the last three hours we've been calling Bills and we've...every Member in this process that has sit here and observed..." 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

Bill 946. May 26, 1989 "Representative Tate, this has to be on House Your comments on House Bill 946."

"On a... I've had my light on since we started yelling twenty minutes ago and you have not acknowledged me."

"What's your point, Sir?" go

"My point is, if we have to go up to the Speaker's well and kiss your ring to get a Bill called, which has been in the process for the last ten weeks, this is ridiculous. You've got a Democratic list and you've got a Republican list. We've never run this process like this. You just willy-nilly off the record, until somebody comes down and begs you to call their Bills. Why don't you put some order... There are Members on both sides of the aisle, Democrats and Republicans, that would like get their Bills called, that would like to get their Bills heard in an orderly fashion. Why can't you give the Membership a list and stay with it and have some equity in this process?" Speaker Cullerton: to "Question is, 'Shall House Bill 946 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question there are 112 voting 'yes', none voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2106, Representative DeLeo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." House Bill 2106, a

"On Page 26 of the Calendar, Bill for an Act to amend the Home Equity Assurance Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative DeLeo, on House Bill 2106."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2106, amends the Home Equity Insurance 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day (sic Assurance) Act. It sets a May 26, 1989 timetable for appointments and allows a precinct to be initially included. It makes some changes concerning appraisers, brokers and listing a guaranteed residence for sale. It allows the insurance of a...tax anticipation warrants against the taxes assessed from the year in which a program is created, also, the first full year after the creation of the program. This Bill was passed last year. It went on to the Senate and on to the Governor and was signed. This is making some changes in the current legislation. I ask for an Affirmative Roll Call."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 2106. Is there anyone standing in opposition? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Williams."

"Thank you, very much. The Body...I wanted you to know that this Bill is about to go out of here, a lot of deals made, both sides. However, it goes and I'm...know it's gonna go. But I want you to know when you do this and I want to know on our side of this deal, want to know on our side of this deal that the little Amendment that we think can be taken that allows for the commission to select the brokers and the appraisers, it's the brokers and the appraisers of my skin color that won't get selected. It's the brokers and appraisers who just try to make a hard living and who want to expand and be a part of the total market who won't do it. This is a bad deal. It's a deal dealing with affordable housing, we made that deal twice. We made that deal in January, and to make that deal again today, is no good. I feel I got a credit coming on this one, Mr. Speaker. I'm letting you know and even though the deal is suppose to be ours, the blood stays where it is. There is no Pontius Pilate of washing your hands and saying I ain't got nothing to do with it, because you do. Where 126  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 everybody from my colleagues, my sister Majority Leaders, for everybody, this is a bad Bill, this is a bad deal. I'm telling you, you don't have to go through with this. There is no sense in sitting up there arguing all day about the Amendment, but like you say this is a card game, I'm gonna loose this game today, far more than likely, and I guess around here the ante is votes. One day I hope to get another ante, I hope to be dealt another hand whether it's on this issue or some other issue, but when the whole game is played out, when the whole game is played out, before we say sine die, I want another shoot at this game that we play here. Big time game, taxes, all types of things on the table, I'm saying this is a deal that did not have to be made. Affordable housing was voted on in January, when I said M.J.M for Speaker. So I tell you today go on do what you have to do. The Bill as amended, is not in its proper form. I do not feel that this Bill should be passed, its spreading of what is realistically a virus. We talk about AIDS, prejudice is a virus, prejudice is a virus and it spreads and what we are talking about is spreading this virus. Everything we talked about that's gonna happen and go wrong is starting to happen. And just the fact that we are here today, proves that this virus don't die. Its just like AIDS. It's a killer. One day as folks come to realize that what you do and what you say and how you affect our lives, this isn't right, this is not right. All I can say to my colleagues here in the House is please, as you try to accommodate a very small segment of the people of this state, as you try to appease a small segment of voters, what you end up doing is slapping our entire population in the face. We did it last year and now you're gonna say that these markets are gonna be forever closed to minority brokers, to minority appraisers. These markets 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 will never get over there. We'll close it off forever, so go ahead and do your thing there is no need to talk forever. I urge a 'no' vote. I will seek a verification if we get close. So I just want you to know now that this Bill is as bad as what we passed last year. Even as amended its just as bad. To my colleagues in the caucus, don't pay twice for the same deal. I urge a 'no' vote."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Parke."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I want to make it clear that the integrity of the real estate community of Illinois is at risk on this vote. There is no doubt that they are going to be restricted and this can open Pandora's Box. I think it's a dangerous precedent to cut out and limit where a free market can work and who can do it. I think its a...opening the door to a terrible precedent that should scare everybody here. And I would say that a positive note that to vote 'no' on this would be the right vote for your real estate community."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Jones."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This was a bad Bill last year and its a bad Bill this year. It was a racist piece of legislation last year and it still continues to be a racist piece of legislation. It's hard for me to understand three days ago when we were trying to pass legislation that would help everybody, people on public aid, people who are homeless, people that don't have enough to eat, nowhere to sleep, the same Sponsor would not vote on that legislation, but here he will vote on this and not only vote on it, but Sponsor it. I said last year it's the Ku Klux Klan without the hood and it's still the Ku Klux Klan without the hood. It's a racist piece of legislation and it makes me sick and I urge a 'no' vote." 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would just like to say that all of us in here who hold the American flag in reverence, we feel that its anti-American to trample on that flag. Well, this is what the substance of that flag represents, equality and equal access for all Americans. I think it's more significant that we not trample on what the flag actually means rather than be concerned about the piece of cloth. As leaders in this Body, it's truly tragic when you become one of those who trample on equal access for all Americans and yet you become in an uproar when you feel someone has trampled on the symbol of the American flag. I support 'buy American'. I support the substance of what that flag represents and this piece of legislation is totally anti-American. Today it's against me, tomorrow it may be against you. I urge a 'no' vote."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I sometimes become amazed at the rhetoric that flies around this Chamber. Let's talk about what this issue is all about. Last year in the wisdom of the General Assembly we established the Home Equity Plan. It wasn't really conceived in this room, it was conceived by a group of residents who live on the northwest side and the southwest side of the City of Chicago, who said that they have problems in their neighborhood and they want to have an opportunity to work together with their elected officials, so that they can keep their neighborhood as a vibrant effective place for all residents in the City of Chicago. They brought the plan to us. It made a lot of sense. It's starting to work. After a year a determination was made 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 that there has to be a few minor technical changes to make the plan easier for people to get into and to make the plan more sufficient. This is not a racist concept. I'm offended when someone accuses this of being a racist concept. This was prepared and drafted by people who live in my community. They are not concerned about what goes on in a lot of other areas in the world, they are concerned about their neighborhood and they are concerned about making sure that they have a safe decent place to live and where they can work and raise their family the way they want to. They have established a process, we are trying to work that process through. We need some minor technical changes and if anyone says this is a racist piece of language, a racist piece of legislation, they are offending me and everybody that lives in my district and I think that's wrong. I urge for the adoption and the passage of this legislation."

"The question is 'Shall House Bill 2106 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no.' The voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Representative McAuliffe, one minute to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Last night there was 28 Republican votes on this Bill and I was very happy and very proud. I'd urge my colleagues that voted for this last night to vote for it again. We are only responding to the people in our communities. This is not a racist Bill, it affects less than one percent of the precincts in the City of Chicago. The people that live in those areas came to us with a problem; they ask us to come down here and solve it. We thought we had it solved last year. We came back to you this year for some minor technical changes as Representative Ronan said. And I need 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 the help of the Republicans from Downstate and the suburban Republicans. It does not affect anywhere else in the State of Illinois except Chicago. It affects my neighborhood, Representative Ronan's neighborhood, Speaker Madigan's neighborhood, Bob Terzich's neighborhood. That's the only place its effective. This is the people in our area that came to us to solve their problems, as your people come to you in downstate and suburban areas and ask you to help solve their problems. When somebody comes to me and asks me for a downstate vote or a suburban vote, I'm always happy to give it. Now I'm asking for your help now, this is very important to our people. Thank you."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. Yes. Representative Parke, did you ask for the verification? Representative Williams, I'm sorry. The Gentleman asks for a verification. Please poll those not voting."

"A poll of those not voting. Balanoff. Barnes. Edley. Homer. Shirley Jones and Wolf. No further."

"Please poll those in the affirmative."

"Poll of those voting affirmative. Ackerman. Barger. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Capparelli. Churchill. Cullerton. Daniels. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Ewing. Farley. Flinn. Giglio. Giorgi. Goforth. Granberg. Hallock. Hartke. Hensel. Hoffman. Hultgren. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. Leitch. Leverenz. Martinez. Matijevich. Mantino. Mays. McAuliffe. McCracken. McGann. McPike. Mulcahey. Munizzi. Novak. Bob Olson. Myron Olson. William Peterson. Petka. Piel. Regan. Richmond. Ronan. Ropp. Saltsman. Santiago. Steczo. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Wait. Weaver. Weller. Wennlund. Williamson. Wojcik. Zickus and Mr. Speaker." 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

Speaker Cullerton: "Representative...yes, May 26, 1989 Representative Williams, any questions of the affirmative?"

"Yes. Laurino, Representative Laurino."

"Representative Laurino. Is Representative Laurino in the Chamber? Representative Laurino? Please remove him."

"Representative Leverenz."

"Representative Leverenz. Representative Leverenz. Is the Gentleman in the Chamber? Please remove him."

"Representative Leitch."

"Excuse me, Representative Williams. Representative Keane asks leave to be verified, he's down here at the well. The Gentleman has leave. Representative Leitch. Is Representative Leitch in the Chamber? Representative Leitch. Remove him."

"Representative Mulcahey."

"Representative Mulcahey. Is Representative Mulcahey in the Chamber? Representative Mulcahey. Remove him."

"Representative Zickus."

"Representative Zickus. Is Representative Zickus in the Chamber? Representative Zickus. Remove her."

"Representative Johnson. Excuse me, I'm sorry, he's... Representative Lang."

"Representative Lang."

"How is he recorded? That's okay, I'm sorry he's recorded as voting..."

"He's recorded as voting 'present.'"

"Representative Petkas..Petka."

"Representative Petka, is in the rear of the Chamber."

"Representative Olson." 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"That would be..."

"Okay, I see him now." Speaker Cullerton: believe." May 26, 1989 "There is two of them and they are both here I

"We've already got Mulcahey. no further questions."

Representative...I have Speaker Cullerton: "Representative Edley, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"I would like to be voted present on this legislation, on House Bill 2106."

"Record the Gentleman as voting 'present.' Representative Stephens, for what purpose do you rise?"

"I would like to be recorded 'aye.'"

"Change Representative Stephens from 'no' to 'aye.' Any further Representative changes? Representative Homer. Homer. Record Representative Homer as 'aye.' Are there any further changes? Representative Leverenz, has returned to the Chamber. Please add Representative Leverenz to the Roll Call. Any further questions? On this question there are 60 voting 'aye', 44 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present.' This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Preston, on House Bill 526. Representative Ronan, would you wish to handle House Bill 526 for Representative Preston. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." Clerk Leone: to "House Bill 526, a Bill for an Act in relationship the compensation and emoluments of Members of the General Assembly, has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted previously, on May 16th."

"Is there a Floor Amendment, Mr. Clerk?"

"No Motions filed. Floor Amendment #2, is being offered by Representative Ewing." 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Representative Ewing. Representative Ewing, on Amendment #2. Withdraw. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Ewing."

"Representative Ewing, on Amendment #3. Withdraw. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Preston."

"Representative Ronan, on Amendment #4."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #4 was agreed by Representative Preston. It establishes that this position, the position of legislative assistant, can be utilized by more than one person and that an individual can be a state employee or be paid on contractual basis. These are some of the recommendations that came from the other side of the aisle and from the Senate. I move for the adoption of Amendment #4."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #4. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #4 be adopted?' All in favor say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #4 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Preston."

"Representative Ronan, on Amendment #5."

"Repre... Thank you, Mr. Chair... Mr. Speaker. Amendment #5 is a further clarification of Amendment #4. Be glad to answer any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #5. Is there any discussion? There being none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment #5 be adopted? All in favor say 'aye', all opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 the 'ayes' have it. Amendment #5 is adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill...Mr. Clerk, please read House Bill 526."

"House Bill 526, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to compensation and emoluments of Members of the General Assembly. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Ronan, on House Bill 526."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 526 is an issue that I passed out of the General Assembly two years ago. Representative Preston picked up to the cause this year. Let's just face the fact of life. We have more work that we have to do in our district office. Our job down here is to deliver services to the people of our neighborhood. The best way to do that is to have adequate, competent staff that can help you get your job done. This will create a position of legislative assistant. It makes a lot of sense and it's going to be...give you an opportunity to provide...oh, alright, let's pass a shell Bill then. The Bill doesn't do anything."

"Gentleman's moved for the passage of House Bill 526. On that question, the Gentleman from Perry, Representative Goforth."

"Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He indicates he will."

"Representative..."

"Representative Ronan, a question from Representative Goforth. What's your question, Sir."

"Does this Bill go to us? Do we have complete control over this money? Does Speaker Madigan or Minority Leader Daniels have any control over this money?"

"Representative, there's no money. There is no 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day appropriation on this legislation."

"Okay. Is it also a permissive Bill?"

"At this point, the way that Representative Preston's amended the Bill, this is very permissive."

"Okay. Thank you."

"What we're doing right now, Representative, is sending a big pot of air over to the Senate, so that we can continue the discussions."

"Everybody ought to vote for it then."

"Representative Homer."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I'm for this Bill. I don't think that male Members of this General Assembly should be treated any differently than the female Members. And so, I rise in support of this Amendment."

"The questions is, 'Shall House Bill 526 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. The voting's open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question there are 63 voting 'aye', 47 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Breslin, in the Chair."

"On page 11, appears 1557, Representative Wait. Representative Wait. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1557, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act, has been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments filed?"

"Floor Amendment #1, is being offered by Representative Churchill."

"Representative Churchill."

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Ladies and 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Gentlemen of the House. Floor Amendment #1 would require counties to include mandatory source separation in their county solid waste plans in the future."

"You've heard the Gentleman's Amendment. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hallock."

"Representative Hallock."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. Amendment #2 would give a state sales tax exemption for mulching lawn mowers. As we all know, about twenty percent of garbage waste on a weekly basis is mulch of leaves and grass. What the mulching lawn mower would do, is grind all of that up and put it right back in the soil. The purpose of the Bill is to try to give a small incentive to people to try and buy these kind of lawn mowers. I think it would do two things. First of all, it would get people thinking more about our garbage problem, and secondly, to try and eliminate this waste...this mulch from the waste stream. It's a good Amendment and I would ask that it be adopted."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment 2. On the question, the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. This is a Bill that was killed in the Revenue Committee for two reasons. First of all, the apparent reason for the exemption no longer exists, because these materials will not have to go into landfill. Secondly, there is a substantial potential cost to the Bill, but I also have a 137  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 parliamentary inquiry. Is the Amendment in order?"

"Mr. Clerk, give us the Amendment, please. Representative McPike. No? Withdraw #2. Go to #3, Mr. Clerk."

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Hallock."

"Representative Hallock."

"Just to make the same remarks."

"Okay. Representative Currie, now, on Amendment 3."

"And in opposition, the same remarks. Cost and no necessity for this Amendment."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Hallock, one minute to explain your vote."

"If I could just explain my vote. The Department of Revenue estimated the cost of this Bill to be seventy-five...seventy five thousand dollars per year. So the cost, obviously, is almost nil. And secondly, I think if we can in fact encourage people to mulch their lawns, we don't have to deal with the mulch issue at all. We've banned it from landfills in the future, but it's going to go some place. If we're going to encourage people to mulch their lawns, it won't be a problem at all. And I ask that you support this Amendment."

"The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 42 voting 'aye', 72 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. The Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Hallock."

"Represen... We just did #4. Are there any 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day further Amendments? I see. We just did 3. Amendment 4, then. Mr. Hallock."

"Withdraw 4, please."

"Withdraw #4. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, Representative Hallock."

"Representative Hallock."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. What #5 does, is also try to deal with our landfill crisis. The fed..."

"Proceed, Sir."

"The Federal Government is contemplating some post-closure requirements which begin on January 1, 1991. Here in Illinois, our requirements take effect on July 1, 1990. What my Bill would do, is...my Amendment does, is say that ours also would comply with the Federal Governments. In other words, we are extending our landfills by about six months if we pass this Amendment. It's a good Amendment. As far as I know, there is not a lot of opposition. I would ask that it be adopted."

"On Amendment #5, the Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker and Members of the House. There is substantial opposition from the environmental community. There's no guarantee the delay the Gentleman proposes would only be a six month delay. It's not at all clear when the new U.S. E.P.A. regulations would go into effect. Legislation we passed last year requiring a fifteen year post-closure program, will encourage money marginal landfills from going out of business now, thus preventing ourselves from facing more serious problems in the future. The only sensible environmental response to this proposal, is to say 'no'."

"You've heard the proposition and a person speaking in opposition. The question is, 'Shall Amendment 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day #5 be adopted?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mautino, your Bill is going to be next. Please be prepared. Have all voted who wish? 2600. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 44...45 voting 'aye', 69 voting 'no'. The Amendment fails. Any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Levin."

"Representative Levin."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #6 would establish the Food Toxic Disclosure Act, so that individuals going to a supermarket could know whether the fruits and vegetables that they are buying contain materials known to cause cancer and other birth defects."

"You have heard the Gentleman's Amendment. It is the Food Toxic Disclosure Act. On the question, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Kulas."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Question of the Chair. Is the Amendment germane?"

"Give me the Amendment, please. In the opinion of the Chair... Representative Levin, it's the Chair's opinion that your Amendment is not germane. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no more further Amendments."

"Read the Bill on... Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1557, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Wait."

"Thank you. Now as the Bill reads, basically it's Churchill's Amendment just requiring source separation for 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day solid waste.

May 26, 1989 I'd ask for a Motion to approve this." "The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 1557. Does anyone rise in opposition? There being none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1557 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Stange, your Bill will be after Representative Mautino's. voted who wish? This is final take the record. On this question there are lll voting 'aye', 1 voting 'no' and none voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2600. Clerk, read the Bill on Third." Please be ready. Have all passage. The Clerk will

"On page 23 of the Calendar, House Bill 2600, a Bill for an Act to amend the Use Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, very much, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2600, which was amended last evening with basically Amendment #5 and then a continuation Amendment on %36, Amendment 5 for all intents and purposes, became the Bill. This legislation addresses the question of civic centers and the Department of Conservation. That embodies as well, the investment tax credit provisions that are SO important the business community; the civic center proposal, important to thirteen individual areas this state and the Department of Conservation, a hundred million dollar program that touches virtually every district in this state." of

"The Gentleman has explained the Bill. Does anyone rise in opposition? Representative McCracken."

"Not in opposition, parliamentary inquiry."

"State your inquiry." 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"This increases bond authorization of various funds or districts and I ask the Chair to rule that it requires 71 votes to pass."

"Representative McCracken, 60 votes are all that is required for the passage of this Bill. On the question, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2600 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Mautino, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, very much, Madam Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are sent down here as Legislators to represent our individual districts. This proposal provides for those programs that are of importance to all of downstate Illinois and one provision for McCormick Place. Individuals have requested that their projects and programs be placed in this legislation. This is the only package for downstate Illinois. I recommend most highly that you try to explain why in fact you cannot support legislation that has your specific projects and programs for the betterment of the State of Illinois involved. This is not a bi-partisan issue. Excuse me. This is not a partisan issue. This is a bi-partisan issue with bi-partisan sponsorship. Individuals having anywhere from one to twenty million dollars in this package. I cannot understand how anyone can say that the imposition of this tax would not provide those projects and programs that you have asked for. The alternative is to have another program come over that will provide for nothing in terms of projects, but specifically for maybe 'IRAP', or something else. At least you can see what you're going to get for your dollars with the software tax included in this legislation. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would vote against this Bill, based upon the 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 information individual Members have provided me."

"Representative Brunsvold, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Just thinking back on this program and talking to the Majority Leader; if this Bill would have started on the Republican side of the aisle through the Lady from Schaumburg and the Minority Leader and then progressed through the process to myself, through the Quad-Cities and Representative DeJaegher and we would have went to Representative McPike and said, 'Jim, we'd like you to go to the Speaker and present this program from the Republican side of the aisle, and McPike would have went into to Mike and said, 'I'd like to present this program,' and the Speaker would have looked at him, looked at the program and said, 'McCormick Place, twenty-eight million dollars? You've got to be kidding. This is not something I can support.' He said, 'Jim McPike, how dare you bring me a proposal like this with all this money going downstate and...'"

"Bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

""...and none going to Chicago.' So this is a downstate program as Dick Mautino has said, and downstater's ought to be supporting this, because it helps downstate."

"Representative DeJaegher, one minute to explain your vote. Please note that votes are not changing on this Bill. Proceed. Sir."

"I just want to make a point."

"Quickly."

"A few short months ago, the Governor of the State of Illinois came into the City of Moline, he felt that this was a high priority. In fact, he gave his word that if we 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 would find an alternate measure that basically would provide funding, he could be supportive of this Bill. Mautino has crafted a Bill that basically not only helps that area as far as the construction of a civic center goes, but also we've included business. Everybody talks about tourism. We've included tourism. We've tried to help each and every Member of this House. Please, give us some consideration. We are the largest metropolitan area in the State of Illinois without this and we fund others."

"Bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"That's it."

"Okay. The Gentleman from Madison, Representative McPike, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I don't know how to put together a package that is fairer to downstate Illinois than this. It is somewhat embarassing, to be honest with you, to go into the Speaker and say, 'Here's a two hundred million dollar package. There's twenty-eight million dollars for Chicago and there's a hundred and seventy-two million dollars for downstate. There are three or four Members downstate that are interested in it. Mr. Mautino, Brunsvold, DeJaegher and a few others, and on the Republican side of the aisle, I presume that the Gentleman from Quincy who gets the convention center, would be interested, and the Lady from Schaumburg who gets twenty million dollars for her convention center, they would be interested.' And the Speaker said, 'I really have nothing special to request and twenty-eight million dollars for McCormick Place will be sufficient. Just call the Bill for a vote.' I was hoping that we'd get about thirty votes from the Democratic side of the aisle and about thirty from the Republican side of the aisle, because I think it's a fair package. We have a hundred million dollars for 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 downstate parks. They're in Republican districts, they're in Democratic districts. None of them are in my district. It's a package that everyone downstate should be supporting. For the life of me, since I have been here, I have never seen the Republican Party take a position against a package that was good for downstate, that was more than fair for downstate. If I had asked you to put together the package, you wouldn't have come back with a package like this. You would have tried to give Chicago a little more. You would have tried to give them a little more, because they've got twenty-five percent of the people and they only get twelve percent of the money. And McCormick Place isn't a Democratic issue. The money that goes to McCormick Place, supports Democrats and Republicans. It's a bi-partisan board. Certainly the Republican businessmen use McCormick Place. So, I don't really even consider that a Democratic part of the package. This really is a package for all of Illinois. I feel bad that Chicago doesn't have state parks, but the truth is, there are no state parks in the City of Chicago, and so that when we craft the package to try to help state parks, we would hope that the people of Chicago would use them. Last week there was a ribbon cutting ceremony at Starved Rock State Park. I think it's about an hour drive from Chicago. A brand new renovated park. The Governor is up there to cut the ribbon and I hope that everybody in the City of Chicago has a chance to use that state park, because I understand that it's very very beautiful. It's quite a project, quite a park to see. It helps our state and the same way with this package, it helps all of downstate. I told Dick Mautino that if this got 60 Democratic votes, I'd stand up and ask everybody to vote 'present'. I don't believe that it should have 60 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Democratic votes. I think it's a bi-partisan Bill, it deserves bi-partisan support."

"Representative Novak, one minute to explain your vote."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I too, rise up. I'm incredulous that this cannot get more support. You know, I live in an area that we've been economically depressed since the early 1980's. We lost five thousand jobs. We have a state park, Kankakee State Park, that's visited by one and a half million people from the City of Chicago, that come down and visit our places. Beautiful fishing. Our newspaper, the Kankakee Journal, has wanted and many other groups, business groups, labor groups, recreation groups; they want a new development in our state park, a new resort. We're going to bring more money, more development, more people down to our area. It's going to be a tremendous shot in our arm for economic development. Every Republican downstate Legislator should look at this. Those of you with parks in your district, you'd be crazy not to vote for this. And look at the incentives for big business. The investment tax credits. Caterpillar, the largest corporation in the State of Illinois, needs this badly. The Illinois Manufacturer's Association. Those guys that help the Republicans all the time, they want this. They want this legislation renewed, cause it's so terribly important for business."

"Bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"Let's get some more 'green' votes up there."

"Representative Saltsman, one minute to explain your vote."

"Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. In my district there is not a state park that'll be benefited by this program. 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 However, the largest employer in the State of Illinois, outside of the state itself, will be the biggest recipient of paying the amount of money into this software tax than probably any other corporation in the State of Illinois. They have closed down four factories in other parts of the country. They have brought four thousand jobs back to the State of Illinois and have not closed one of their factories in the State of Illinois. We owe this tax incentive program to them, because they are also compromising on the computer software. Therefor, we need this park in Peoria County, which is not my district, it's in a Republican district. We need the million dollars worth of jobs that's going to be involved with it. And at that, I hope that we can get downstate people to push for this legislation, so we can get started with it and not have it come back changed around where we're going to lose a lot of our programs."

"Bring your remarks to a close, Sir."

"This Bill is not going to come back the same way. You better look at it now, because I'll not vote for it the same way if it don't get out of here today. It'll have to be changed and something will have to be coming in my district."

"The question is... Mr. Clerk, take the record, please. On this question there are 44 voting 'aye', 49 voting 'no' and 18 voting 'present'. This Bill having failed to receive the necessary votes, is declared lost. Representative Stange, on 1578. Out of the record. Representative McNamara, on House Bill 211. 211. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 211, a Bill for an Act in relation to financial planning. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Edley, your Bill will be next. 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Representative McNamara, on his Bill."

"I'd like leave to take this back to Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment."

"Gentleman asks leave to return this Bill to the Order of Second for an Amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Are there any Amendments filed, Mr. Clerk.?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative McNamara."

"Representative McNamara."

"Out of the record."

"Out of the record."

"I withdraw that Amendment."

"Withdraw the Amendment. Any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"There is an Amendment #4, I believe."

"Mr. Clerk, would you do a search for an Amendment #4?"

"Inquiry of the Chair. Is Amendment...are there Amendments...which Amendments are on the Bill right now?"

"Mr. Clerk, would you answer that question, please?"

"Okay. Then I think I want to..."

"Representative Edley, your Bill, House Bill 1434, will be next. So be prepared. Number 1 and #2 are adopted, Mr. McNamara."

"Okay. Thank you. Then I believe it's...excuse me. I make a Motion to table Amendment #2."

"Representative McNamara, moves to table Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall #2 be tabled?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 148  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 'ayes' have it. The Amendment's adopted...the Amendment is tabled. Are there any further Amendments or Motions?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative McNamara."

"Representative McNamara."

"Yes. Amendment #3 is an Amendment that deals with...that deals with the powers of the board that is being established to forestall any action against the municipality. I'd urge for the adoption of Amendment #3."

"The Gentleman moves the adoption of Amendment #3. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall Amendment 3 be adopted?' All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair the 'ayes' have it. Amendment's adopted. Any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 211, a Bill for an Act in relationship to financial planning. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative McNamara."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is prompted by the fiscal emergency condition that exists in the Village of Robbins. And the purpose of this Act is to provide assistance as far as in the area of accounting, budgeting and taxing practices to ensure fiscal integrity. With the adoption of Amendment #3, it will pre-empt home rule and will require 71 votes. I do ask for your approval of this measure."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 211. Is there any discussion? Any opposition? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 211 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Seventy-one votes, I'm advised, are required for passage of 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 this Bill. Have all votes..have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 98 voting 'aye', 13 voting 'no'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, by three-fifths majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Edley, on House Bill 1434. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 1434, a Bill for an Act creating the position of taxpayer's rights advocate."

"Representative Edley."

"Third Reading of the Bill."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the General Assembly. This Bill creates the Office of Taxpayer's Advocate in the Department of Revenue. The taxpayer's advocate is responsible for looking into taxpayer's complaints, evaluating department responses and in extreme cases, halting the tax liens...and releasing tax liens."

"The Gentleman has moved the passage of House Bill 1434. On the question, the Gentleman from DeKalb, Representative Countryman."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"He will yield for a question."

"Representative, I think you remember the other day we passed out the taxpayer's bill of rights, which I Sponsored, which has a taxpayer's ombudsman in it. How does this taxpayer advocate differ from that ombudsman?"

"It's not quite as broad as your Bill. This Bill, I've negotiated with the Department of Revenue. They have no problem with this legislation. I think as far as a fiscal note, if you compare the difference this legislation is projected to cost less than...less than one hundred 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 thousand dollars, whereas yours is somewhere around two to three million. So, I think those are probably the major differences."

"Well, I don't think there was ever a fiscal note requested on my Bill and the cost was disputed, I think, if you recall, but the...this taxpayer advocate is subject to the whim and the will of the Director of the Department Revenue. That is, he can be fired by that Director, can't of he?"

"He can be fired by the Director, but he's also charged to report to the General Assembly and the Governor each year."

"Yeah, but I mean if the Director says don't do something, that's his boss, he's got to listen to him doesn't he?"

"Yes, he would."

"Well, to the Bill, Madam Speaker."

"Proceed."

"It's unfortunate that this is the first Bill that the Representative is proposing, because it isn't a good Bill and in fact it is not a good position to have a taxpayer advocate who's subject to the whim and the will of the Director of the Department of Revenue. The federal taxpayer's bill of rights has an independent ombudsman. The Bill we passed out of here the other day has an independent ombudsman. I'll tell you that that's an important part of this and I'd recommend a 'no' vote on this Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 1434 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. Representative Barnes. Representative Barnes, your Bill will be next. This is final passage. Representative Matijevich, one minute to explain your vote. Representative Matijevich." 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This not only is his first Bill, I think it can be improved on, but that doesn't mean we ought to defeat it now. It is in similar concept to Representative Countryman's Bill. If I were Representative Countryman, I would have gotten up and said, 'You and I are pretty close to being on the right track; and you ought to support him.' I don't see why you should kill a Bill just because it's a little different than yours. It can be amended in the Senate to be tougher, but it can't be amended if you stop it here. It is a Bill to help the taxpayers and everybody ought to support it."

"Have all voted who wish? Sixty votes are required for passage. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record, On this question there are 74 voting 'aye', 40 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2090, Representative Barnes. Clerk, read the Bill. Representative Lang, you're going to be next. Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"House Bill 2090, on page 16 of the Calendar, a Bill for an Act to amend the Real Estate Transfer Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Barnes."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2090 deals with the Smoke Detector Disclosure Act. In December of '87, we passed a very strict smoke detector law, but the Fire Marshal's Office feels since ninety-one percent of the people that were burned in fires didn't have smoke detectors in the premises, that it's time for us to start educating the people about the laws that we put into effect. At real estate closings on the 'green sheet' that is used at the transaction, there will be a section that will have to be 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 checked off to inform the buyer and the seller about the Smoke Detector Law. The Fire Marshal's Office also intends to print a brochure to further educate the public on the necessary Smoke Detector Law. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"You have heard what the Bill does. Does anyone rise in opposition? Hearing none, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2090 pass? All those in favor vote 'aye', all those opposed vote 'no'. Voting is open. This is final passage. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 107 voting 'aye', 2 voting 'no'. This Bill having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Lang, House Bill 1546. Clerk, read the Bill."

"On page 26 of the Calendar, House Bill 1546, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We've discussed this Bill thoroughly. This Bill requires that seat belts be put in all school buses which are manufactured after the date of the Bill. No retrofitting of school buses will be required. This also requires rooftop hatches for the safety of the children, in the case the bus rolls over. Those of you that were relying on a federal report to say that you weren't going to vote for this Bill. I'd like to read a short section of this report to you. It say as follows: 'One of the concerns with seat belts, is that many children won't wear them. To be effective, seat belts must be worn and used correctly.' Though the committee agreed that a federal mandate for seat belts is not warranted, Members expressed 153  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 the opinion that a uniform safety restraint policy for all motor vehicles is sufficiently important that state and local school districts should be encouraged to equip new school buses with seat belts. This is a critical important area for our communities to save our children and I urge your 'aye' vote."

"We have heard this Bill before. One person will be recognized in opposition. Representative Didrickson or Representative Parke. Which do you prefer. One person in opposition. Representative Didrickson, had her light on first. Proceed, Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Madam Speaker, Members of the House. It is absolutely correct as the Speaker has mentioned. We have debated this extensively. I can tell you that there are a number of boards of education that are opposed to this in the State of Illinois. The only significant research that we are aware of, comes from the National Research Council, that says, with this measure we would not providing...be providing any safety or safer bus rides for our kids in the State of Illinois. As I've mentioned before, I have been early on a proponent of car safety belts, of infant seats...safety seats in cars. I also was even a supporter of helmets for eighteen years and under on motorcycles. So, I think I have a pretty good track record with regards to safety. This is not an issue that is...really deserves our vote at this time. The issue is just not conclusive. In fact, I can tell you that there is much research that savs we're going to really damage internal organs of our young kids, sitting on these buses with the safety belts on them. The compartmentalization is a much better way to go, which many of our school buses already have, to buffer the shock if they are in an accident. I would urge you to vote 'no' on this issue at 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day this time." May 26, 1989

"Those in favor of the pass... Speaker Madigan, in the Chair. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill, signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Would someone record Mr. Mautino as 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 56 'ayes', 56 'nos'. The Clerk shall poll the absentees."

"Poll of those not voting. Representative Preston and Terzich, are not voting."

"Are there any additions? Are there any changes? There are 56 'ayes'. The Bill fails. The next Bill will be House Bill 1359, Mr. Woolard. 1359, Mr. Clerk. What is the status of the Bill?"

"House Bill 1359, on the Calendar on page 11, has been read a second time previously. There are no Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1 is offered by Representative Woolard."

"Mr. Woolard on Amendment #1."

"Take it out of the record. No..."

"Withdraw the Amendment?"

"Yes."

"The Amendment shall be withdrawn. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Woolard."

"Mr. Woolard on Amendment #2."

"Yes."

"Mr. Woolard on Amendment #2." 155  49th Legislative Day Woolard: Speaker STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 "Okay, on Amendment...on Amendment #2, commencing with line eleven, take...we're going to end with a period at the end of amended and delete all of lines 12, 13 and 14."

"Those in favor of the Amendment...Representative Pullen."

"I'd like to ask the Sponsor a question, please."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Would you please explain to us the affect of the Amendment?"

"What the affect of the Amendment does, is it eliminates additional remedies, may have the part repaired and replaced and the purchase price refunded together with incidental and consequential damages. It eliminates that portion of the Bill. Okay, it provides for only the UCC remedies agreement."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" "There are no further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." concerning Third "House Bill 1359, a Bill for an Act express warranties for rebuilt motor vehicle parts. Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 106 'ayes', 8 people voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Is Mr. Tate in the chamber? Mr. Tate. Mac...Mr. Tate. he's preparing a speech somewhere. Oh, here he is. waiting breathlessly. Mr. Clerk, on House Bill 1626, Maybe We're what 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day is the status of the Bill?"

May 26, 1989 "House Bill 1626, on page 21 of the Calendar, it's on the order of Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1626, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1626 requires the Department of Professional Regulation to issue a monthly disciplinary report and it expands the investigative powers of the Department of Professional Regulation. Each and every board, the Realtors Board, Optometry Board, all the different boards that are regulated by the Department of Professional Regulation are in favor of this Bill. I move for its passage. I know of no opposition."

"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 116 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Is Mr. Santiago in the chamber? Mr. Santiago. Mr. Santiago. The next Bill is House Bill 650. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 650 on page 19 of the Calendar, is on the order of Third Reading."

"Read the Bill." "House Bill 650, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Library Systems Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Satterthwaite."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, House Bill 650 provides for school library grants in the amount of seventy-five cents per pupil for the schools that meet 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 certain standards. It provides access to the resources of all of our libraries across the state to be used in conjunction with our school libraries. It's supported by the Library Association, the Illinois Association of School Administrators, the State Board of Education and the Secretary of State's Office and probably others. I move for passage of House Bill 650."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield to a question?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"What is the cost to the state for this program?"

"If all of the schools qualified and they do have to meet certain qualifications in order to participate in the program, we estimate that the cost would be 1.15 million dollars. However, if less money than that were to be appropriated, it would be prorated."

"So, this is...additional system...systems to libraries and schools?"

"This would be for school libraries if they met certain standards and those standards are delineated in the Bill. It would require that they have a specific location, et cetera."

"Thank you very much for your explanation."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are lll 'ayes', 2 people voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Is Mr. Santiago in the chamber? Mr. Santiago. Mr. Weller, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Record me as voting 'aye'. I pushed my button. I guess 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day it didn't go on."

May 26, 1989 "Please record Mr. Weller as 'aye' on the last vote. Mr...and the record will SO reflect. And Mr. Edley."

"I pushed my button and I didn't get a... a green light, Mr. Speaker."

"Let the record reflect that Mr. Edley attempted to vote 'aye'..."

"... 'Aye', yeah."

"Is Mr. Santiago in the chamber? Mr. Santiago? House Bill 476, Mr. Hicks. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 476 on page 8 of the Calendar, is on the order of Second Reading. Has been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"There are no Amendments filed."

"Are there...Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 476, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Hicks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 476 amends the School Code for the 89-90 school year only. It takes care of one small school, Farrington Township school in my district; cost 49,850 dollars. I'd appreciate a green vote."

"The Gentleman offers his Bill. Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor explain to us why this happened?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes, during the 1987-88 school year, in which calculations for this particular school were brought forth, it was not believed that the oil interest in that township which was very high, suddenly skyrocketed because of one or 159  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 two oil wells that was hit, which had not been calculated before. t could not be calculated. They were brand new wells that were brought in that brought the assessed valuation up of over three million dollars, which in a very small schoolship...township could not be calculated or could not be anticipated. So, in which they did the calculation for that school formula year, they were not included because of that they were penalized, and this simply takes care of what they would have received if they had of calculated it properly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm in support of this legislation, but it illustrates the problem when you use two different years to determine what the state aid should be."

"Mr. Black."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, you've come over and talked to us about this Bill and I appreciate that, but let me for the record indicate...you said this Bill was going to disappear after this was all taken care of, is that correct?"

"Yes, Sir, that's correct. It only takes care of the one school district. It's something we've done in years past at times whenever you've had a superintendent..."

"...Okay..."

"... Who has failed to anticipate some new assessed valuation within that particular school district."

"Okay. Okay, thank you very much."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 112 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 779, Mr. Novak. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 779 is on the order of Second Reading, has been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Is there a Motion?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Tate."

"Mr. Tate. Mr. Tate on the Amendment. Mr. Tate. Mr. Tate on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Amendment #2 increases the penalty for reckless driving involving a DUI from a Class 3 felony to a Class 1 felony. It requires the court to instruct the jury to determine to the defendant that was driving under the influence, and this was currently required in nonjury cases. That's the standard. Move for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye'. Mr. Novak. Mr. Novak. Mr. Novak."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd just like to make a comment about this Amendment. This Amendment originally was in the Bill when I came before the Judiciary II Committee, and after we heard the Bill a first time, I met with the Chairman of the Committee and I had the Bill redrafted to phase it back a little to get the Bill passed. Now, I'm not speaking against the Amendment, 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 but I thought the chairman of the Judiciary II Committee might want to add a few comments."

"Mr. Homer, do you wish to comment? Mr. Homer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor of the Amendment yield?"

"Yes, the Sponsor yields."

"I'm caught off guard by your Amendment. What is...what is your Amendment do?"

"Mr. Tate, could you explain the Amendment again."

"I increased the penalty for a DUI from Class 3 felony to a Class 1. Pretty straightforward."

"Mr. Homer."

"Alright. Well, Mr...Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. We have...we have a situation where this Bill was introduced by Representative Novak, came to the Judiciary Committee and the committee members after a full hearing of the Bill, recommended that the Sponsor amend the Bill if he wished to pass it out of committee. There were two objections to his original Bill. One was that he was taking the offense of reckless homicide from a Class 3 felony to a Class 1, a jump of two notches. While the members of the committee felt that where a reckless homicide involved a driving under the intoxication, that it may warrant an enhancement of penalty. The members objected to enhancing it from a 3 to a 1, and suggested that the Sponsor perhaps should...should be satisfied with an enhancement from a 3 to a 2. Further, there was an objection to the Bill in the sense that as it was introduced, the court would be required to...to instruct the jury with respect to this issue and the members of the committee felt that that should be permissive. So, they made those two recommendations. The Sponsor said, okay, I'll come back 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day with an Amendment. He did so. May 26, 1989 Amended the Bill. The Bill then passed out as amended. Now that it's on the floor on Second Reading, Representative Tate wants to amend it back to the way that the committee found was objectionable. And SO I would urge that the Members of this House object to the Amendment. It's not necessary. It puts the Bill in a form that the committee objected to and it does violence to the Member's Bill. So, I will hope you would join with me, I would ask that this Amendment be defeated."

"Mr. Tate."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, this Amendment simply puts the Bill back into the original form that the Sponsor of the Bill introduced, and I would suggest for all of those that are rushing to increase the...the content amount of alcohol in our blood from 0.8 or 1 to whatever the number they're...they're suggesting, that if we really want to provide for a deterrent for drunk drivers. And drunk drivers especially that are convicted for reckless driving, involving a DUI, that the best way is through a good, proper, law...law and order approach to it and make it a tougher penalty. That sends the kind of message that you want to, because it punishes the people that are violating the law. This is a better measure than all the other proposals that I've seen in this chamber that we voted on today. And I move for its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The...'nos' have it. The Amendment fails. The Gentleman request a Roll Call. He's supported by Mr. Hallock. The hard charger from Rockford. Those in favor of the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Those for the Amendment vote May 26, 1989 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 38 'ayes', 72 'nos', the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 779, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 110 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 648, Mr. McCracken. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 648 is on the order of Second Reading, has been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 is being offered by Representative Sutker."

"Mr. Sutker on Amendment #1."

"Withdraw, Mr. Chairman."

"Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative McCracken."

"Mr. McCracken, withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Amendments?" May 26, 1989

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative McCracken."

"Withdraw Amendment #4 and #5. Is there an Amendment #6?"

"Floor Amendment #6 is being offered by Representative McCracken."

"Mr. McCracken on Amendment #6."

"Mr. Speaker, this Bill as amended, if this is adopted would amend the Bidding Act only to allow purchasing orders under five thousand dollars to be exempt from the bidding...the competitive bidding process. I move its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 648, a Bill for an Act concerning bidding. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 116 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1863. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of that Bill?"

"House Bill 1863 is on the order of Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1863, a Bill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Santiago." 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

May 26, 1989 "Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill amends the Criminal Code. It adds the offense of aggravated battery. The battery upon a pregnant woman. What it does is simply adds to the ways that an aggravated battery can be committed by making it an aggravated battery for a person to commit a battery when the person knows that the individual harmed is pregnant. I will entertain any questions at this moment."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2520, Mr. Mautino. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2520 on page 21 of the Calendar, is on the order of Third Reading."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Inquiry of the Chair, what Amendments have been adopted to that Bill?"

"Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

"The Bill is on the order of Third Reading. There are no Amendments previously adopted on the Bill."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are lll 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 988. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 988 on page 20 of the Calendar is on the 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day order of Third Reading." May 26, 1989

"Mr. Matijevich."

"Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think everybody knows what this Bill does. It would create the election of Illinois commerce commissioners rather than the appointment. Appreciate your support. Seven out of ten of your constituents want it this way, an elected commerce commission."

"House Bill 988, a Bill for an Act to provide for the election of members of the Illinois Commerce Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Clerk...the Chair would suggest that Mr. Matijevich speak for the Bill and Mr. Hoffman would speak, I presume, against the Bill and then we can proceed to Roll Call. Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you...thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I indeed do rise in opposition to this legislation. You look around the...you look around the country, you'll find no connection between elected commerce commission or appointed commerce commissions. Neither way of organizing a commerce commission is going to determine what...what the rates are or what the regulations are. Those regulations and those rates are established either in law or by regulations that have been adopted. There's a lot that could be said about this, but due to the time constraints, I merely arise to fortify your position of the logic of maintaining the present system."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Morrow to explain his vote. Have all voted who wish?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. In as such, I might have a possible conflict of 167  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 interest here on House Bill 988, I will vote my conscience as the Representative of the 32nd District and I haven't decided how I'm going to vote yet."

"Hurry up. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 54 'ayes' and 51 'nos' and the Bill fails. House Bill 1578, Mr. Stange. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"On page 11 of the Calendar, House Bill 1578, a Bill for an Act in relating to registration, has been read a second time previously. There are no Committee or Floor Amendments."

"Are there any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Third Reading. Mr. Stange."

"House Bill 1578, a Bill for an Act relating to registrations. Third Reading of the Bill."

"...Mr. Stange, do you wish to take this out of the record? The Gentleman requests that this matter be taken out of the record. House Bill 1926, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 1926 is on the order of Second Reading. Has been read a second time previously. Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."

"Is there a Motion?"

"There are no Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2 is being offered by Representative Kubik."

"Mr. Kubik on Amendment #2."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. What Amendment #2 would do is to make a change in the current Cook County Board of Tax Appeals. And what 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 the...what the Amendment would do would be to expand that board by one member, which I know, Representative Currie, that's an idea that Representative Currie supports. But in addition to that, what this Bill would do is create a district...the members would have to run in districts. The districts would be drawn by the state board of elections. I would like to point out to some of my friends on the other side of the aisle, that these districts would have... would be drawn with the minority participation, the minority language, is contained in the legislation, so that there would be strong minority participation. I think it's a concept whose time has come. I think if you walked down the street and asked anybody, other than the Members of this Body, who served on the Cook County Board Tax Appeals, they couldn't tell you. But I think if we go to a districting concept, we'll have better accountability. We'll have people who are able to identify who these people are because this is a very, very important office. So I would certainly appreciate your support on this particular legislation and would request a Roll Call vote on this."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I do support increasing the number of members of the Board of Property Tax Appeals, but I strenuously oppose this Amendment. This Amendment would accomplish that purpose by dividing up Cook County into separate districts. I think there's no reason to do that. No excuse for it and I worry about the affect of this Amendment on minority participation, on the delusion of a minority vote. So, I'd recommend everybody to vote 'no' on this Amendment. And I wonder whether the Sponsor, in fact, is trying to kill the underlying Bill, which is an opportunity for the public to know more about tax issues at the local level." 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"Mr. Santiago."

"I also rise in opposition to this Amendment. I think it is a waste of the taxpayer's money. We do not want anymore elected officials. We already have two highly qualified minorities serving on the Tax Board of Appeals. So, let's give them a chance to work and operate and let's go out, next time around and vote for these two highly minorities. If the Republicans are interested, go in next year and vote for them. I'm glad to hear that someone from the Republican side is interested in helping the minority. Well, you have two highly qualified individuals. Let's go out and let's support them. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 50 'ayes', 61 'nos', the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Currie."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This was an Amendment...recommended by Representative Churchill in House Revenue Committee. It merely insures that if a taxing district fails to meet the provisions of the underlying Bill, the entire property tax levee is not at risk. I'd be happy to answer your questions and would welcome your support."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"There are no further Amendments." 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1926, a Bill for an Act in relationship to increasing in property tax levees. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 106 'ayes', 6 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2151, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2151 is on the order of Second Reading, has been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments? The Chair recognizes Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd just like to point out that this particular Bill, as you can see is the result of the task force on education for employment. You've been contacted, you've been lobbied in opposition to this Bill a great deal. We are making the kind of progress we'd like to make. And we've all five agreed that we are going to place this Bill in its present condition on Interim Study and give us an opportunity to take a look at it next spring. Thank you for your indulgence."

"Yes, is there leave? Leave is granted. The Bill shall be placed on the order of Interim Study. House Bill...Mr. McCracken."

"When we put them in Interim Study, does that count as a Republican Bill?"

"Yes, right. We'll see you in about ten Bills. 171  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 House Bill 8, Mr. Levin. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill #8 on page 7 of the Calendar, is on...is on the order of Second Reading. It amends the Illinois Vehicle Code. Amendments...Amendment #1 was adopted previously."

"I'm sorry, Mr. Clerk, were we on an Amendment?"

"On Second Reading, Amendment #1 was adopted previously. Amendments #2 through 5 were withdrawn. Floor Amendment... Floor Amendment #6 is being offered by Representative Mautino."

"Mr. Mautino on Amendment #6."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Amendment #6, could you please give me the LRB number on that 6?"

"LRB number ends in 375JS."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. What Amendment #6 does, is provide for an increase in the motor vehicle's fees by two dollars and provide that that increase in a registration fees of the first division shall be deposited in the Youth Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Prevention Fund. If in fact we are addressing the questions of DUI, I had prepared that Amendment originally to address the questions of Representative Didrickson's problems for creating a fund and I ask for the adoption of this legislation...this Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. On that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Levin. Mr. Levin."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would rise in opposition to Amendment #6. The Gentleman clearly does not like this Bill and has filed in the last several days, eleven separate fiscal notes in order to keep the 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Bill from being called on Third Reading. I would ask for a 'no' vote on this because it guts the underlying Bill. I would like to have the Bill in the form that this Body, the other day thought was appropriate, which was a compromise with Representative Homer's Amendment #31. If, you know, I would ask for courtesy that the Bill be put in a form where we have the opportunity to vote on the underlying issue, not gut the Bill by putting an extraneous Amendment on it."

"Mr. Mautino moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Mr. Levin stands in opposition. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 87 'ayes', 22 'nos', the Amendment is adopted. Amendment... Mr. Levin, with the adoption of that Amendment, Mr. Mautino has delivered several Valentines to you, so, here at the Speaker's podium we have a request for a correctional budget and impact note filed by Mr. Mautino, to the Bill, as amended by House Amendment #6. A request for a state debt impact note, a request for a fiscal note from the Office of the Secretary of State, a request for a fiscal note from the Department of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse, a request for a fiscal note from the State Police, a request for a fiscal note from the Department of Corrections, a request for a state mandate fiscal note. And I think he'd also like to ask that a doctor take your blood pressure at this point. Mr. Levin."

"Mr. Speaker, this is the third set these kinds of fiscal notes. I've attempted to play by the rules and get these different agencies to file fiscal notes, judicial notes, even dead impact notes, and they've all said the same thing; they can't...they can't make any determination, there's no cost. I would move at this point, that the of 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day various note acts are not applicable."

"Mr. Levin, what is your motion again?" "I would move that the...these particular note acts are not applicable at this point. We already had, you know, as I say, eleven separate fiscal notes, judicial notes, debt impact notes filled...filed on this legislation..."

"...Okay, fine...So the...the Gentleman has moved that the several requests for the filing of notes would be inappropriate. And on that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Maybe I can alleviate some of the time involved here. With the adoption of Amendment #6, which you announced and we addressed the question at the time of Bill, I believe the legislation moves back to the Second Reading, First Legislative Day. On my demand, please."

"Ladies and Gentlemen and Mr. Levin, the Parliamentarian informs me that Mr. Mautino's request is in order and is proper and therefore, the Bill shall be placed on the order of Second Reading, First Legislative Day. Mr. Levin. Mr. Levin."

"Mr. Speaker, I, you know, this Bill, obviously has very...had very, very substantial lobbying against it. And what we forget is we're talking about people's lives. I know there's a few dollars involved here, but we're talking about people's lives and this is an issue that is not going to go away. You know, obviously, we've been outmaneuvered today. But, there has been a substantial amount of misrepresentation in terms of what the Bill does, in terms of what the alcohol levels are and we will be back. Thank you."

"The next Bill shall be House Bill 2447, Representative Pullen. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day this Bill?"

May 26, 1989 "House Bill 2447 is on the order of Third Reading." "Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2447, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill requires school boards throughout Illinois, to ban smoking on school property. It does permit school boards to designate exemptions, including an outdoor...including outdoor spectator areas of school property during scheduled school interscholastic or extracurricular athletic activities. And a designated area within the school building for use by school personnel. If a teacher's smoking lounge is designated, it requires the board to also provide a teacher's lounge for those who do not smoke."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 99 'ayes', 7 'nos', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2140, Mr. Novak. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2140 on page 17 of the Calendar, is on the order of Third Reading."

"Mr...Mr. Novak. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2140, a Bill for an Act to amend the Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Novak."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'd like to have leave of the Body to take this 175  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE Bill back to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment." May 26, 1989

"Mr. Novak, you may have missed that pronouncement from this Gentleman on this side of the aisle, with a smile on his face..."

"I didn't hear it."

"You apparently asked that the Bill be placed on the order of Second Reading for for purpose of an Amendment."

"Correct."

"Mr. McCracken objects. Your next approach would be to move for that question. Mr. McCracken has issued an advisory opinion that if your Amendment is adopted then he will employ the same section of the rules that Mr. Mautino employed against Mr. Levin."

"Alright."

"And...and then he added a postscript that, I think he said something about IPAC being dead..."

"In that case, Mr. Speaker, I ask or urge the adoption of this Bill 2140 on Third Reading and I'd ask for your 'aye' vote please."

"Mr. McCracken. Mr. McCracken."

"I can't win for losing. Let's not have another vehicle out there."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Black to explain his vote."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to remind both Mem...or Members on both sides of the aisle, this was the Bill that had the so-called original equipment manufacturer crash safety parts. Amendment that was tried 176  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 to...they tried to get that on the other day and I would just say that those Members who voted against that Amendment ought to just kill this Bill here and now, so we don't have to fight that OEM process all over again, two or three weeks from now."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 52 'ayes', 58 'nos', the Bill fails. The next Bill shall be House Bill 603, Mr. Dunn. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 603 on page 15 of the Calendar, a Bill for an Act to amend the Hearing Aid Consumer Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Dunn."

"House Bill 603 is a cleanup Bill to the Hearing Aid Consumer Protection Act. And the guts of the Bill is that it provides for the use of the word 'license' instead of 'certification', because that has better appeal to consumers. I know of no opposition and ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 114 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2289, Mr. Kirkland. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"On page 22 of the Calendar, House Bill 2289 is on the order of Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2289, a Bill for an Act in relationship to probation records and disposition of juvenile and adult 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day offenders. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Kirkland." May 26, 1989

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. This amends the Juvenile Court Act of 1987, the Unified Code and the Unified Code of Corrections. It provides that any juvenile offender may be fingerprinted or photographed. It eliminates community service from juvenile nonjudicial adjustment plans, that because that was accidentally carried over from the old Juvenile Court Act, or excuse me, not in the old Juvenile Court Act and not meant to be put in the new one. Provides that court services may not investigate allegations of truancy alone. Provides that courts may authorize probation officers to authorize adult probationers to travel and such authorizations must include commitments to return involuntarily...voluntary wavers of extradition. Move for passage of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 110...111 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. The next Bill is House Bill 914, Mr. Cullerton. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 914, the Bill is on Second Reading. The Bill's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor...or there was. I'm sorry. Committee Amendment #1 was adopted in committee."

"Is there a Motion?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?" 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Floor Amendment #2...Amendment #1 was adopted. Amendment #2 was withdrawn."

"Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 914, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Fish Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Cullerton."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We extensively debated this Amendment, which became the Bill on Second Reading. The Bill bans gill nets in Lake Michigan. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Cullerton has spoken for the Bill. Mr. Giglio will speak, I presume, against the Bill and then we shall proceed to Roll Call. Mr. Giglio."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We have debated this, I think at length and if you remember my remarks two days ago, I asked that we not vote on this because of the Department of Conservation wanted to do a study. We passed the Resolution yesterday, 106-3 for the Department of Conservation to do the study. And I think we could find out after two years, when the Department of Conservation gets through, whether or not the people who have the commercial fishing licenses, which are four, are actually doing what they're doing out there. This is a battle between the charter boat people and those four licenses and I would ask that you either vote 'no' or 'present' and let the Department of Conservation do what they have to do."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Balanoff 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day to explain his vote."

May 26, 1989 "I just rise to... I'd like to recognize some students from my district up in the balcony right now..."

Balanoff..."

"...You're in violation of the rules, Mr. "...They're...they're...this is part of my explaining my vote. They're eighth graders from Jane Addams Elementary School, right up against Lake Michigan. Many of them are fishermen. And I'd urge a 'green' vote. Also the principal of that school is Jim Keane's...Representative Jim Keane's wife. Thank you."

"Mr. Kulas to introduce a group of school children."

"I'd like to introduce the school of fish. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just reiterate, shortly some of the remarks I made last... couple days ago on this Bill. We've had extensive hearings on this Bill. All the interested parties involved, the charter boat fishermen, the legislative sportsmen, the commercial fishermen, we all sat together with the Department and everyone had agreed to do a two year study to see what effects actually are being perpetrated by the gill nets and we all agreed to that except one person, one individual who took it upon himself to introduce House Bill 500. This is not...the Sportsmen Legislative Coalition is against this Bill and I would ask you to vote 'no'."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 55 'ayes', 39 'nos' and the Bill fails. Next Bill is House Bill 1131, Mr. Levin. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 1131, the Bill has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments." 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

May 26, 1989 "Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Cowlishaw."

"Representative Cowlishaw, Representative Cowlishaw." Amendment #1.

"One minute, Mr. Speaker, please. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize for the delay. Amendment #1 to House Bill 1131 is the priority one plan for the funding of education in Illinois. All this Bill, this Amendment does is to dedicate sixty-three percent of the proceeds from the income tax, after refunds have been paid for education. That dedicated source of revenue is then added to three existing dedicated sources of revenue. One of which is twenty-five percent of the sales tax, all of the lottery profits and as you know, a small portion of the cigarette tax. This would mean that not only for this year, but for every fiscal year hereafter, our schools would be funded at a higher level even than is proposed in the current budget of the Governor. But most of all, the immense advantage of this plan is that it makes the level of that funding for elementary, secondary and higher education something that is predictable, dependable and reliable. That is the complaint that our school people have brought to us. There isn't one of us in this chamber who has not heard from school people within our own district. We can't tell for sure from year to year what you people are going to do with our funding. It is like we are on a roller coaster. And if you look at the funding for education in Illinois for the last several years, you will see that the in graph form that does look like a roller coaster. It's feast or famine for the schools in Illinois. This plan avoids our ever having that problem again. It makes education funding predictable, dependable and reliable. And it does not 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 leave education ever at the edge of a cliff from which it may fall off. I am very proud to offer this Amendment and I move for its adoption."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of the Republican's spending plan for education. Mr. Bowman will respond and then we'll go to Roll Call."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The only problem with the Lady's proposal is it will not do what she pro...suggests that its...intended purposes is the intended purpose is to make funding for education reliable and predictable. Unfortunately, she has chosen the wrong tax to do that. The income tax fluctuates over the business cycle. The tax is not as predictable as she would like us to believe. The reason that the general funds are...have a relatively stable growth from year to year is that they are driven by sales tax revenue and that they are driven by utility revenues. And other things that do not fluctuate over time, therefore, this proposal, while it has a superficial seductive appeal, would do nothing more than to harness the schools of this state to an inherently unstable source of income for the indefinite future. And you know, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, you know as well as I do, that the first time that the income tax took a nose dive in an economic recession, the schools would be right down here asking us to have a supplemental appropriation from other revenue sources to bail them out and we cannot shackle them to an unpredictable income source. I urge the defeat of this proposal."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will vote 'aye', those opposed will vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 51 'ayes', 61 'nos', the Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1131, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Levin...those in favor of the passage of the Bill will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 116 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2160, Mr. McPike. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill sponsored by Mr. McPike? House Bill 2160."

"House Bill 2160, this Bill is on the order of Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2160, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the Chicago Park District. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. McPike."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a shell Bill for the Chicago Park District."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 62 'ayes', 51 'nos', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2411, Representative Barnes. Is 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Representative Barnes in the chamber? Representative Barnes in the chamber? Mr. McAuliffe, did you wish to handle this Bill for Representative Barnes? 2411. Representative Cowlishaw will handle the Bill. Mr. Clerk, what's the status of the Bill?"

"The Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2411, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Cowlishaw, please be brief."

"I shall and thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. This Bill requires the State Board of Education to develop a model curriculum for reduction of self-destructive behavior for optional use by school districts in grade six through twelve. I move for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 110 'ayes', 4 people voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1622, what is the status of the Bill? Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"This Bill appears on Second Reading. Has been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Wolf and Didrickson."

"Mr. Cullerton, are you prepared to offer the Amendment? Representative Didrickson, are prepared to offer the Amendment? Representative Didrickson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The 184  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 Amendment becomes the Bill and it requires the Legislative Research Unit to track legislative, executive and judicial appointments to boarding commissions and to maintain this information on a computer data base. Ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1622, a Bill for an Act to amend the Legislative Commission Reorganization Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 109 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1594, Mr. Hicks. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"The Bill appears on Second Reading. Has been read a second time previously."

"Mr. Clerk, I'm sorry, what did you say?"

"Been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Hartke."

"Mr. Hartke on Amendment #1."

"Floor Amendment... Floor Amendment #1 is the...technical language by the Department of Transportation, to insure that we don't lose federal funds." 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Those for the Amendment May 26, 1989 say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1594, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Vehicle Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 61 'ayes', 40 'nos', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2669, Mr. Krska. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"This Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Mautino."

"Mr. Mautino on Amendments #1."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. House Amendment #1 provides for the right of first refusal by the supplier, the wholesaler to purchase a product after there has been a problem, either through a fire or an accident, et cetera. And therefore, not allow an alcoholic beverage to be sold by insurance liquidators at corner stores or whatever and that's what the Amendment does. I move for its adoption."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?" 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"No further Amendments."

May 26, 1989 "Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2669, a Bill for an Act to amend the Beer Industry Fair Dealing Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 'ayes', no one voting 'no', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 935, Mr. Flinn. Is Mr. Flinn in the chamber? We'll pass over this Bill just for a minute. We'll come back to it as the next Bill. House Bill 789, Mr. Balanoff. Is Mr. Balanoff in the chamber? Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 789?"

"The Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 789, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Place the Bill on the order of Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment. Mr. Clerk, are there any Amendments filed?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Balanoff."

"Mr. Balanoff on Amendment #2."

"Yes, the Amendment changes the date of the final report, the effective date to...when it has to be completed to March 1st, 1993."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments." 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Third Reading. May 26, 1989 Mr. Balanoff on the Bill. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish?...."

"...House Bill..."

"...Have all voted who wish..."

"...House Bill 789, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 78 'ayes', 32 'nos', this Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 935, Mr. Flinn. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of that Bill?"

"House Bill 935, the Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments filed?"

"No Committee Amendments. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Flinn."

"Mr. Flinn offers Amendment #1. Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Flinn."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Flinn."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill." 188  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"House Bill 935, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Code of Criminal Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Flinn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I won't take much time, but all this does is allow the chief judge in a district to appoint an associate judge to hear electronic device cases, where they want to set up electronic device hearings. And right now it says circuit judge and we want to add... one associate judge to it. This is part of the Supreme Court's package for this year. They've asked for it."

"Mr. Countryman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"...Yes..."

"Mr. Flinn, it's my understanding that you intend this only to be one associate judge in first circuit at anyone time, is that correct?"

"That's correct. We don't intend to permit judge shopping. In other words, we plan to have one judge assigned for a particular weekend or particular night and that sort of thing. We don't plan on, if one judge turns it down to go find another one. The circuit...the chief of the circuit will assign that judge and he will be on duty until...until someone else is assigned to his place."

"If that's the case, I can support it."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye'. those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 104 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill having received a Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Kulas for 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Kulas: the purpose of a Motion. Mr. Kulas." May 26, 1989 of "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen the House. I would move to suspend the appropriate rule so that House Bill 1635 and House Bill 154, to extend the Third Reading deadline on these two Bills to May 15, 1990. The reason for this, House Bill 1635 repeals the local siting laws dealing with landfills. House Bill 154 addresses the problem of the plastic containers that are...that are a problem in our environmental system. We have all the interested parties sitting at the table discussing these two issues. As far as the siting laws, the local... the mu...the local units of government, the environmentalists, the IMA, the Chamber have all sat down a number of times. They're going to be working throughout the summer and fall to come up with some changes in the siting laws in the State of Illinois. The same thing is going to happen on the plastic's law. The industry is willing to sit down with all the interested parties. We're working out a deal. And I would move for the adoption of this Motion."

"Mr. McCracken. Mr. McCracken. Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you. Inquiry of the Chair, pursuant to Rule 27(g), does this require seventy-one votes to suspend the deadline? Seventy-one votes?"

"Sixty votes, Mr. McCracken."

"I guess I was under the wrong Section, huh?"

"I guess so."

"Well, there has been talk in the industry about this Bill and there has been some discussion. I guess the Sponsor wants to keep the industry at the table. But, you know, what is...how often...how...how many rules are we going to suspend here? Already the rules don't seem mean to much, so now on an oral Motion, the Sponsor will to 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATI TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 come in at Third Reading deadline, at 3:47 in the afternoon and extend the Third Reading deadline for almost one year. Now, if...if this is such a good idea for this Bill, why aren't we doing it all the time, Mr. Speaker? Why don't we suspend the rules so that the Republican Bills will never wither on the vine. We'll extend the Third Reading deadline for all Republican Bills, how's that? Is that fair?"

"Give it a run."

"Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. So, if this one passes, I'm going to make a Motion that all Republican Bills be extended to May 15th, 1990."

"Those in favor of Myron Kulas's Motion signify by voting 'aye', those who want to support Mr. McCracken, vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 63 'ayes', 47 'nos', Mr. McCracken request a verification. Record Mr. McGann as 'aye'. And Mr. Clerk, would you poll the absentees."

"Poll of those not voting. DeJaegher. Frederick. Klemm. Bob Olson. Preston and Wolf. No further."

"Record Mr. DeJaegher as 'aye'. Read the names of those voting 'aye'."

"Balanoff. Bowman. Breslin. Brunsvold. Bugielski. Capparelli. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Dunn. Edley. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Granberg. Hannig. Hartke. Hicks. Homer. Lou Jones. Shirley Jones. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Mulcahey. Munizzi. Novak. Phelps. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Santiago. 191  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Satterthwaite. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Trotter. May 26, 1989 Sutker. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. White. Williams. Woolard. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge, and Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Dunn. Mr. McCracken, would you verify Mr. Dunn? And Mr. Ronan? And would the Clerk record Mr. Olson as 'no', Mr. Robert Olson as 'no'. And verify Mr. LeFlore. Questions. Mr. McCracken."

"Thank you. Representative Mulcahey?"

"Mr. Mulcahey? Mr. Mulcahey? Is Mr. Mulcahey in the chamber? Remove the Gentleman from the Roll Call. Questions?"

"Are you waiting for me?"

"Yes."

"Alright. Representative Stern?"

"Stern? Representative Stern? Remove the Lady from the Roll Call."

"Representative Martinez?"

"Mr. Martinez? Mr. Martinez? Remove the Gentleman from the Roll Call."

"Representative Capparelli?"

"Mr. Capparelli? Mr. Capparelli is in the rear of the chamber."

"Representative Leverenz?"

"Mr. Leverenz is in his chair."

"Representative Keane?"

"Mr. Keane? Representative Keane? Remove Mr. Keane from the Roll Call and restore Mr. Martinez."

"Representative Farley?"

"Mr. Farley. Is Mr. Farley in the chamber? Mr. Farley is in the rear of the chamber."

"Representative Wolf?"

"Mr. Wolf is not voting."

"Representative... Representative Van Duyne?" 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Mr. Van Duyne. Mr. Van Duyne. Remove Mr. Van Duyne from the Roll Call."

"Representative Hicks?"

"Mr. Hicks is in the chamber."

"Representative Hartke?"

"Mr. Hartke...is in his chair."

"Representative Morrow?"

"Mr. Morrow. Is Mr. Morrow in the chamber? Remove the Gentleman from the Roll Call. Any more questions?"

"Representative DeLeo?"

"Who was your last question?"

"Representative DeLeo?"

"Mr. DeLeo. Remove the Gentleman from the Roll Call."

"Representative White?"

"Mr. White. Remove the Gentleman from the Roll Call."

"Representative Giorgi?"

"Mr. Giorgi is in the...in the chamber."

"Representative DeJaegher?"

"Mr. DeJaegher. Mr. DeJaegher's in the rear of the chamber. Record Mr. Klemm as 'no'."

"Representative Woolard?"

"Mr. Woolard is in the rear of the chamber."

"Nothing further."

"There are 58 'aye' votes and 49 'no' votes and the Motion fails. On the Order of the Agreed List, the Chair is prepared to declare that all Bills on the agreed list have received a Constitutional Majority and therefore are declared passed, with the exception of House Bill 1752, which only received 54 'aye' votes and received 56 'no' votes. So to repeat, all Bills on the agreed list are 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 House Bill hereby declared passed, except House Bill 1752. 2098, Mr. Sutker. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

"This Bill appears on Third Reading."

"The Bill's on the Order of Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2098, a Bill for an Act to amend the Code of Civil Procedure. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Sutker."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill provides that motions for summary judgements, motions for judgement on the face of the pleadings and motion for dismissal based on latent defects may be combined in one pleading. It's an attempt to codify what courts have been seeking to do and I seek your support. I hope for your affirmative vote."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 114 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Levin requests leave to place House Bill 8 on the Order of the Interim Study Calendar. Is there leave? Leave is granted. House Bill 8 shall be placed on the Order of Interim Study. The Chair recognizes Mr. Farley. Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could I have the Journal reflect that I intended to vote 'yes' on House Bill 988?"

"The record shall reflect that statement. Mr. Peterson, do you seek recognition?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I request that House Bill 1396 be removed from Interim Study and be immediately considered." 194  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

May 26, 1989 "The Gentleman's Motion is to remove House Bill 1396 from the Interim Study Calendar and place the Order...and place the Bill on the regular order for immediate consideration. Is there leave? Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill now?"

"The Bill appears on Second Reading, no Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Peterson."

"Mr. Peterson."

"Withdraw Amendment 1."

"Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Woolard."

"Mr. Woolard. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Woolard."

"Mr. Woolard on Amendment #3."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. What this Amendment would do, this would replace the existing Bill, and this Amendment creates a Hazardous Material Emergency Response Reimbursement Act. And many small volunteer fire departments throughout the state, especially in the southern part of the state, are faced with the obligation of meeting hazardous situations and responding to these in such a way that it depletes all of their financial resources. This would allow them the opportunity to have a fund available to replace those needed funds while they were in negotiations with trying to recover those funds from the people who are responsible."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those 195  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1396, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to State Fire Marshal. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Matijevich. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 112 'ayes' no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 183. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 183 is on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 183, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Young." Young, A.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 183 would amend the Public Utilities Act. What it is it's their service charge Bill. It says that the service charge would have to reflect the cost of service. As most of you know, Commonwealth Edison and Illinois Power have the two highest service charges in the country. This Bill is not going to increase fees, will not decrease fees, will not decrease revenues to the utility companies. All it will do is say charge for service, what it actually costs to deliver service to the homes and then the rest is usage and charge for that usage. I move for its adoption."

"Mr. Young there are two Amendments filed to the 196  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Bill. Did you wish to take the Bill to Second Reading or just consider it on Third?" Young, A.: "No, I do not."

"Third Reading?" Young, A.: "The Bill's on Third Reading now. Right, Mr. Speaker?"

"Yes. Yes." Young, A.: "Right."

"Okay, Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in opposition to House Bill 183. The monthly access fee is determined by the Commerce Commission. We have given them the obligation to look at the evidence to make a intelligent and effective and fair and equitable judgement on what these fees ought to be. Now certainly they're much better informed when they make those decisions and have the staff work that they have then we do sitting here today voting on this kind of legislation. The reason past Legislatures have established the Commerce Commission, given it the statutory power it has now, the right to adopt rules and regulations, is because those Legislatures realized that they were not in a position to make those kinds of judgements as things became much more esoteric, much more complicated then they have been in the past. I rise in opposition to this legislation and to make...and as an adam (sic addendum) to this, Mr. Speaker, just to make things simpler when we get to the vote, I would request that we not put people on that are not here today, because I'm going to be forced to verify the Roll Call, and I would prefer not to do that."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have 197  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 57 'ayes', 48 'nos'. Mr. Clerk, poll the absentees."

"Poll of those not voting. DeJaegher. Edley. Farley. Frederick. Homer. Keane. Klemm. Preston. Mulcahey. Ronan and Steczo. No further."

"Record Mr. Steczo as 'aye'. Record Mr. Edley as 'aye'. Record Mr. Klemm as 'aye'. Are there any other changes? Any other changes? Mr. Black, 'no'. Mr. Black is 'no'. Mr. Homer is 'aye'. Mr. Keane, 'aye'. Mr. Farley, 'aye'. Any further changes? Any further changes? On this question there are...Mr. Stephens. Record Mr. Stephens as 'no'. Any further changes? There are 62 'ayes' and 49 'nos'. And Mr. McCracken has requested a verification. Mr. Clerk, read the names of those voting 'aye'."

"Balanoff. Bowman. Breslin. Bugielski. Capparelli. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Davis. DeLeo. Deuchler. Didrickson. Edley. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Hannig. Harris. Homer. Lou Jones. Shirley Jones. Keane. Kirkland. Klemm. Krska. Kubik. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Munizzi. Novak. Rice. Saltsman. Santiago. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Sutker. Terzich. Trotter. Turner. Wait. White. Williams. Wolf. Woolard. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge and Mr. Speaker."

"Record Mr. DeJaegher as 'aye'. Mr. McCracken. Mr. McCracken."

"Representative Kulas?"

"Mr. Kulas...is in the chamber."

"Representative Ronan?"

"Mr. Ronan...not voting." 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Representative Giglio?" May 26, 1989

"Mr. McCracken, would you verify Representative Lou Jones in the center aisle?"

"Yes. Yes."

"Your last question was Mr. Giglio, who's in the chamber."

"Representative Lang?"

"Lang. Mr. Lang. Remove Mr. Lang."

"Representative Flinn?"

"Flinn. Remove Mr. Flinn. Mr. Stephens."

"Record me 'aye', please."

"Record Mr. Stephens as 'aye'."

"Representative McGann?"

"Mr. McGann. Mr. McGann. Remove Mr. McGann and record Mr. Phelps as 'aye'. Res... Record Mr. Ronan as 'aye'."

"Representative Stern?"

"Stern. Representative Stern. Remove Representative Stern."

"Representative Flowers?"

"Representative Flowers is in the chamber."

"Representative Levin?"

"Mr. Levin is in the chamber."

"Representative White?"

"Mr. White. Remove Mr. White."

"Representative DeLeo?"

"Remove Mr. DeLeo."

"Munizzi... Or, I'm sorry, Representative Munizzi?"

"The Lady's in her chair. Mr. Richmond. Record Mr. Richmond as 'aye'."

"Representative Krska?"

"Mr. Krska's in his chair."

"Representative Terzich?" 199  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989

"Mr. Terzich is in the rear of the chamber."

"Nothing further."

"On this question there are 60 'ayes', 48 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority...Representative Williamson wishes to change from 'no' to 'aye'. Any further changes? On this question there are...Zickus."

"Change my vote from 'no' to 'yes', please."

"Record Representative Zickus as 'aye'. And Mr. Weller. Record Mr. Weller as 'aye'."

"Yes."

"Mr. McCracken."

"Should I vote 'aye'?"

"Better repair these mikes."

"Should I vote 'aye'?"

"Restore Mr. DeLeo to the Roll Call. So on this question there are 64 'ayes'...Mr. Dunn. Record Mr. Dunn as 'aye'. Record Mr. Granberg as 'aye'. Record Mr. Hartke as 'aye'. On this question there are 67 'ayes', 42 'nos'...Mr. Black, 'aye'. Mr. Hensel, 'aye'. Barnes, 'aye'. On this question there are 70 'ayes', 39 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2798, Mr. McPike. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2798, this Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2798, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. McPike."

"Mr. Speaker, this is a shell Bill for the Banking Act."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 99 'ayes', 4 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2405. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2405, the Bill is on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Krska."

"Mr. Krska on Amendment #1."

"Amendment #1 becomes the Bill. House Bill 2405 was a shell Bill and the Department of Professional Regulations came to me and asked me to put this Amendment on it. It amends the Illinois Land Sales Act and changes the definition of subdivision from land divided into 50 lots or more to land divided into 25 lots or more."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2405, a Bill for an Act concerning the regulation of land sales. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 111 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Giorgi." 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day

"Mr. Speaker, I vote for all of my seatmate's Bills, John Matijevich's Bill, House Bill 98 (sic - 988). I voted for it. I don't think it registered on the machine, so I want the record to indicate that I would have voted 'yes' if the machine had recorded it for House Bill 988, John Matijevich's Bill to elect the Commerce Commission."

"Let the record reflect Mr. Giorgi's statement. House Bill 2584, Mr. Bowman. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of that Bill?"

"House Bill 2584 is on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2584, a Bill for an Act to repeal Sections of the State Officers and Employees Money Disposition Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Bowman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a housekeeping Bill that I introduced at the request of the incumbent Comptroller. There was some questions about it the other night. We took it out of the record, and I believe all of the questions have been resolved. So I now move for its passage."

"Mr. Keane. Mr. Keane. Mr. Keane."

"Question of the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor yields."

"Does this...does this mean...Do we have to appropriate the refund money under this Bill?"

"Mr. Bowman."

"Turn on Mr. Bowman."

"Mr. Bowman."

"Thank you. Not...could you be more specific about which refund money you're talking about?"

"I'm talking about the income tax refund money."

"No. That is not affected by this legislation at all." 202  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"What money is affected?" May 26, 1989

"It is only those ad hoc refunds that are due because of overpayments of insurance premiums or something of that nature, but the Bill specifically say...as amended, the Bill specifically says that if there is an appropriation that is enacted, either current year or a continued appropriation, that this doesn't apply."

"The Bill in no way...in no way changes the income tax refund legislation we passed last year?"

"Absolutely. In no way."

"No further questions."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 116 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2060. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

"House Bill 2060, the Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Saltsman."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2060, a Bill for an Act in relation to the treatment of tuberculosis. Third Reading of the Bill." 203  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 87 'ayes', 19 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Record Mr. Hallock as 'no'. Record Mr. Black as 'aye'. The next Bill is House Bill 2604, Mr. Wennlund. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. What is the status of the Bill? 2604. 2604."

"House Bill 2604, the Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"One Amendment has been adopted in committee."

"Is there a Motion?"

"No Motions filed?"

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill a third time."

"House Bill 2604, a Bill for an Act concerning grants, loans and other financial assistance. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Wennlund."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill at the present time is a shell Bill for the creation of the technology..."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 113 'ayes', 2 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day hereby declared passed. May 26, 1989 House Bill 2568, Representative Currie. What is the status of the Bill?"

"House Bill 2568, the Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2568, a Bill for an Act to create the Illinois Science Foundation. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This would create an Illinois Science Foundation modelled on the National Science Foundation. I'd appreciate your support and be happy to answer questions."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 88 'ayes', 26 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2806, Mr. Santiago. Mr Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2806, this Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Sandiago...Santiago."

"Mr. Clerk, take this matter out of the record at this time. House Bill 2756, Representative Davis. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2756, the Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in committee." 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Is there a Motion?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Cowlishaw."

"Representative Cowlishaw, Amendment #2. Is this an agreed Amendment? Representative Cowlishaw on the Amendment. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2756, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 69 'ayes', 39 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1720, Mr. McNamara. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

"House Bill 1720, this Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative McNamara."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative McNamara."

"Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 49th Legislative Day Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative McNamara."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative McNamara."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1720, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. McCracken, I mean Mr. McNamara, excuse me. Mr. McNamara on the Bill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What this Bill does is it amends the Public Utility Act to require that utility companies experience a blackout, the utility must wave the monthly service charge. The reason for the Amendments was very simply an agreement that was worked out with many of the utility companies in order to make it more palatable. They've withdrawn their objection to it, and it's a result of three or four weeks of a lot of work and conservation (sic - conversation) between CUB and the utility companies."

"Mr. McCracken to speak for the utility companies."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I've always believed in big business. What's good for business is good for America. And don't you guys forget it. The public utilities are our friends. And all of these Amendments still make for a bad 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Bill. Vote 'no'. They are not in agreement." May 26, 1989

"Those in favor of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 55 'ayes', 51 'nos'. Poll the absentees."

"Poll of those not voting. DeJaegher. Frederick. Krska. Mautino. Preston. Satterthwaite. Stephens. Sutker and Terzich. No further."

"Record Mr. Krska as 'aye'. Any further changes? On this question there are 56 'ayes', 51 'nos'. Record Mr. Terzich as 'aye'. Record Mr. Capparelli as 'aye'. Record Mr. Morrow as 'aye'. Record Mr. Mautino as 'aye'. Record Mr. Wennlund as 'no'. Record Mr. DeJaegher as 'aye'. Any further changes? Any further changes? On this question there are 50... there are 60 'ayes', 52 'nos'. Mr. McCracken has requested a verification and the Clerk shall read the names of those voting 'aye'."

Clerk O'Brien: "Balanoff. Black. Bowman. Bugielski. Capparelli. Countryman. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. Davis. DeJaegher. DeLeo. Edley. Farley. Flinn. Flowers. Giglio. Giorgi. Granberg. Hannig. Hasara. Lou Jones. Shirley Jones. Keane. Krska. Kulas. Lang. Laurino. LeFlore. Leverenz. Levin. Martinez. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McNamara. McPike. Morrow. Mulcahey. Munizzi. Novak. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Santiago. Shaw. Steczo. Stern. Terzich. Trotter. Turner. Weaver. White. Williams. Wolf. Woolard. Anthony Young. Wyvetter Younge. Mr. Speaker."

"Questions, Mr. McCracken. Mr. McCracken. Remove Mr. Mulcahey. Turn on Mr. McCracken."

"Representative Stern?" 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Stern. Remove Stern."

"She's in Highland Park."

"Next."

"Representative Richmond?"

"Mr. Richmond is in his chair."

"Representative Steczo?"

"Steczo is in his chair."

"Representative Laurino?"

"Laurino is in his chair."

"Representative Granberg?"

"Granberg he's in the center aisle."

"Representative Martinez?"

"Martinez is in his chair. Mr. Stephens. Record Mr. Stephens as 'no'."

"Representative Van Duyne?"

"Mr. Van Duyne."

"Okay. He's voting 'no'. I'm sorry. Representative Shaw?"

"Shaw. Is Mr. Shaw in the chamber? The Gentleman's in the rear of the chamber."

"Representative McGann?"

"Mr. McGann. Remove Mr. McGann."

"Representative Lang?"

"Remove Mr. Lang."

"Representative Leverenz?"

"Mr. Leverenz. Remove Mr. Lang. Mr. Leverenz. Remove Mr. Leverenz."

"Representative White?"

"Mr. White. Remove Mr. White."

"Representative Morrow?"

"Mr. Morrow. The Gentleman's here."

"Nothing further."

"On this question there are 54 'ayes' and 53 209  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 'nos'. The Bill fails. House Bill 2806, Mr. Santiago. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2806, the Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously. Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Santiago."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2806, a Bill for an Act to amend the Civil Administrative Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 98 'ayes', 15 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2709, Representative Parcells. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

"House Bill 2709, the Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2709, a Bill for an Act in relation to the Department of Nuclear Safety. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 112 'ayes', 2 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1591, Mr. Hicks. Mr. 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 1591, this Bill is on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Regan."

"Mr. Regan on Amendment #1. Withdraw the Amendment."

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Hicks."

"Mr. Hicks on Amendment #2. Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Levin."

"Amendment #3 by Levin. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative Levin."

"Representative Levin on Amendment #4. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Rice."

"Amendment #5 by Mr. Rice. Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3 was Representative Rice Amendment."

"Mr. Clerk, I thought that we dealt with an 211  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Amendment #3, maybe by Mr. Levin. Okay, so we've already adopted an Amendment #5."

"No, we adopted...we withdrew #1, adopted #2 by Hicks."

"And then on #3 that was adopted by Mr. Levin, so..."

"No, that was on the wrong Bill."

"Okay, you're right. 3 and 4 were withdrawn by Mr. Levin?"

"Levin's Amendments were to a different Bill. They gave me the wrong Amendments."

"Alright. Mr. McCracken, the Clerk was...the Clerk was looking at Amendments to another Bill."

"Okay, where are we?"

"Okay, so for purposes of the record, let the record reflect the error in terms of labeling Amendments 3 and 4 as being sponsored by Mr. Levin. And, so that we were in error on Amendments 3 and 4, we got to an Amendment #5, which was adopted on a voice vote. What about 5? What is...is there an Amendment 5?"

"Yes."

"Alright, fine. So, relative to the record which indicates that Amendment #5 was adopted, let the record show that Mr. Rice now moves to reconsider the vote by which that Amendment was adopted. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. That Motion is adopted and that vote is reconsidered. Now the record is clear. We'll go back to Amendment #3. Who is the Sponsor of Amendment #3?"

"Amendment #3, offered by Representative Rice."

"Withdraw Amendment #3. Is there an Amendment #4?"

"Floor Amendment #4, offered by Representative 212  49th Legislative Day Rice."

"Withdraw Amendment #4. Amendment #5."

"Floor Amendment #5, offered by Representative Rice."

"Mr. Rice offers Amendment #5. Mr. Rice on Amendment #5."

"Amendment #5 adds to the content of the Bill is a revision of the Illinois Lottery Law as follows: It restricts the lottery prize to a maximum of $1,000,000 for a single ticket. Any portion of the prize pool exceeding $1,000,000 shall be deposited in the Common School Fund. Adds immediate effective date."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Mr. Hicks."

"Inquiry of the Chair. Is Amendment #5 germane to the Bill? Mr. Speaker, I simply stand in opposition to Amendment #5 as this Bill doesn't relate to the lottery, and I ask for the defeat of Amendment #5."

"Okay, Mr. Rice has moved for the adoption of Amendment #5. Mr. Hicks has spoken in opposition to the Amendment. Mr. Churchill."

"I also speak in opposition to the Amendment."

"Those in favor of the adoption of the Amendment signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 30 'ayes', 73 'nos'. The Amendment fails. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #6, offered by Representative Hicks."

"Mr. Hicks. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments." 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1591, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Hicks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is a Bill that takes care of problems within the Revenue Act concerning the Enterprise Zone. I have talked with Mr. Churchill on the other side. He may have some questions."

"Mr. Churchill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"For the purpose of legislative intent, does the use of the word property or portion thereof in this Bill refer to or define the underlying land in the Enterprise Zone?"

"In no way, according to the Act 162(e) should in any way property be considered as part of that Act. It's only additions to that property, so real property being the land itself would in no way be related in this part of the Act."

"So this only refers to the improvements."

"Only improv...only improvements would be considered part of the Act under 162(e) as stated."

"Thank you very much."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 107 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1469, Representative Flowers. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill, and for what purpose does Mr. Dunn seek recognition? Mr. Dunn. Mr. Dunn."

"Very briefly Mr. Speaker, I am joined on the floor of the 214  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 House here today by a Member of the Missouri Legislature, Representative Patrick Dougherty, of the Missouri Legislature, who is also a native of Decatur, Illinois. Will you please welcome him."

"Mr. Clerk, what is the status of 1469?"

"The Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Flowers."

"Representative Flowers on Amendment #1. Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1469, a Bill for an Act to amend the Public Utilities Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Amend...the Amendment becomes the Bill. The Amendment provides that the ICC cannot approve rates for a public utility which reorganizes spinoff generating compacity. And the second part of the Amendment is intended to prevent a utility from expanding and/or rate basing any cost occurred as a result of a Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And I would move for the passage of House Bill 1469."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 85 'ayes', 18 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Bill 1648, Representative Wyvetter Younge. is the status of this Bill?"

May 26, 1989 Mr. Clerk, what "House Bill 1648, this Bill is on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1648, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Community Development Finance Corporation Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Younge." Younge, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill simply changes the Chairman of the Community Development Finance Corporation from the Lieutenant Governor to the Treasurer of the State of Illinois. And I have mailed a letter to everyone from George Ryan, Lieutenant Governor, saying that this is with his consent."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 104 'ayes'...105 'ayes', 4 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2283, Mr. Ronan. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2218..."

"Mr. Clerk..."

"House Bill 2283, this Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Steczo."

"Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?" 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Ronan and Tate."

"Amendment #2, Mr. Tate, you offered the Amendment? Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #3, offered by Representative Tate and Ronan."

"Mr. Tate. Withdraw the Amendment. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Amendment #4, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Mr. Leverenz on Amendment #4. Withdraw the Amendment."

"Amendment #5, offered by Representative Leverenz."

"Mr. Leverenz on Amendment #5. Withdraw the Amendment."

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2283, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Standards Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Tate...on the Bill."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2283 simply is a pro-consumer Bill that would require gas...gasoline service stations that currently blend gasoline to label the blends at the gas pump. That currently is the status for any gasoline that is blended by ethanol. This Bill has been endorsed by the Illinois Farm Bureau, the Illinois Corn Growers and many different consumers in the state. I move for its passage."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have 217  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 47 'ayes', 52 'nos'. The Bill fails. House Bill 2712, Mr. Mays. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2712, the Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Mays."

"Those for the Amendment say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2712, a Bill for an Act to amend the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'yes'... by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 109 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 815, Mr. Levin. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

"House Bill 815, this Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 815, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Levin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill amends the statute we 218  49th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 26, 1989 passed about four years ago to require the disclosure of foreign governments' endowments of colleges and universities in order to get a disclosure of the Arab petrol dollars..."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 81 'ayes', 27 'nos'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2079, Mr. Shaw. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

"House Bill 2079..."

"No. Yes, you're correct, 2079."

"This Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously."

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any..."

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2079, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Unified Code of Corrections. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Shaw."

"Yeah, thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2079 authorizes a telephone monitoring system for use in corrections with the citizen of home confinement. And I move for its passage."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill... Mr. Cullerton."

"Yes, I just wanted to let you know, Mr. Speaker, that our file reflects that this is opposed by the Speaker's Law 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day Advisory Committee."

May 26, 1989 "Okay, we'll see what they're worth. Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 102 'ayes', 4 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority... Mr. Black, 'aye'. Mr. Black, 'aye'...having received a Constitutional Majority...Mr. Parke, 'aye'...having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 145, Mr. Curran. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill?"

Reading." "House Bill 145.

"Read the Bill."

This Bill appears on Third Clerk O'Brien: "House Bill 145, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Curran. Mr. Curran."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill simply gives the same kind of due process to principals as is allowed to teachers if they're moved or if they are fired. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Mr. McCracken."

"I object, this is Representative Mulcahey's Bill. Our rules provide that the Sponsor controls the Bill and can call it and only he. And we ought to stop voting him too, he's in JoDaviess County by now."

"Mr. McCracken, if you could take time off from your ice cream."

"I like my ice cream...and I can do both at once."

"Right. The Clerk tells me that...Mr. McCracken, the Clerk tells me that Mr. Curran is a 220  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 hyphenated Sponsor with Mr. Mulcahey. Would that have any impact on you? So the rules provide that Mr. Curran can move the Bill. So Mr. Curran to explain the Bill. I guess you've explained the Bill already, Mr. Curran. Representative Cowlishaw."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As I said in Committee, House Bill 145 should have a sub-title. It should be called 'A Rose By Any Other Name'. Many principals in this state complain about what we call teacher tenure, which is one of the most perfect job security provisions that anybody could possibly imagine. It's marvelous. You don't have to be particularly competent as long as you have tenure, you've got job security. Principals have sometimes complained about that, particularly principals whose school may not be doing as well as it ought to be. And now the principals themselves come before us with this proposal, which they call job classification, but, in fact, is tenure. And a rose by any other name smells just as bad as this Bill. It should be defeated."

"Thank you very much. Those in favor of the passage of this tenure Bill, vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 41 'ayes', 58 'nos'. This Bill, having failed to receive a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared lost. House Bill 2670, Mr. Turner. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of this Bill?"

"House Bill 2670, this Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2670, a Bill for an Act to amend the 221  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day May 26, 1989 Illinois Human Rights Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly. House Bill 2670 amends the...provides that in the event the Department of Human Rights determines that a state agency is not in compliance with minimum equal opportunity and affirmative action requirements, it shall demand that that state agency take appropriate action to ensure that at least 50% of the agencies' new employees further the achievement of the Department's Affirmative Action goals for minorities. And I move for its favorable passage."

"Mr. McCracken."

"I rise in opposition. And that's the whole story."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are...55 'ayes', 50 'nos'. The Clerk shall poll the absentees. Record Representative Wyvetter Younge as 'aye'. Poll the absentees."

"Poll of those not voting. Capparelli. DeLeo. Krska. Bob Olson. Preston and Santiago."

"Record Mr. Santiago as 'aye'. Record Mr. DeLeo as 'aye'. Any further changes? This Bill, having received 58 'ayes' and 50 'nos', fails. House Bill 2713, Mr. Peterson. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of that Bill?"

"House Bill 2713, this Bill appears on Third Reading."

"Read the Bill."

"House Bill 2713, a Bill for an Act in relation to the Environmental Protection Act. Third Reading of the Bill." 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Mr. Peterson." May 26, 1989

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Leave to return House Bill 2713 to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment."

"Place the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Is there an Amendment filed?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Representative Peterson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker..."

"Those in favor of the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, offered by Representative Peterson."

"Those in favor of the Amendment vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. The Amendment is adopted. Are there any further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Has the Bill been read a third time?"

"The Bill has been read a third time."

"Those in favor of the passage of the Bill signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 108 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2401, Mr. Anthony Young. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of the Bill? 2401." tfh; 7 Clerk O'Brien: "House Bill 2401, the Bill appears on Second Reading. It's been read a second time previously. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, offered by Anthony Young." 223  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 49th Legislative Day

"Mr. McCracken."