"The House will come to order. The guests in the balcony may wish to rise and join us for the invocation. Representative Nelson Rice will lead us in the invocation."
"Let us bow our heads. Dear Father, we gather here again in the hopes that we've reached the conclusion that this fine an august Body will not turn into a menagerie. We hold our heads up high that we be victorious this day. We ask this simple prayer, in Your name, in Your Son's name, Jesus. Amen."
"We'll be led in the Pledge this morning by Representative Ann Stepan and Nichole Madigan." Stepan/Madigan - et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Speaker McPike: "Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Kubik."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let the record reflect that Representative Klemm is excused today."
"Representative Matijevich."
"Mr. Speaker, on this side of the aisle, excused absence is Mary Flowers."
"Clerk, take the record. One hundred-fifteen Members answering Roll Call, a quorum is present, Representative Hultgren."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I...really was looking for a little guidance. Reading the newspapers I understand that last weekend Speaker Madigan spent some time with his family and Governor Edgar spent some time with his family and...frankly, while the work we do here is important, I think we would all agree that the obligations that we have to our family are...are more important, so, I would commend 1 89th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE July 12, 1991 both the Governor and the Speaker in keeping a perspective on what's really important...I'm wondering if we might have a little guidance on what hours we might be working...tomorrow and Saturday, so that the rest of us might have some plans to spend some time with family on Saturday and Sunday, as well. Is...Do you think we might get some kind of a schedule for the weekend?"
"Yes, I think we will have a schedule for the weekend. The schedule will reflect that the House will be in Session on Saturday and on Sunday, and I've invited my family to come to Springfield and join me. Representative Matijevich."
"Mr. Speaker, what Representative Hultgren has said is what I've been saying all along, that Members on both sides of the aisle wanna go home, permanently. We want the job done, and what he is, also, saying, that there's one thing that can take us all home, or take us all home, and that's the budget. That's the only thing that we have to do is the budget, and we can all go home and government can operate. I commend him because we are all concerned. We all want to go home, Republicans and Democrats, and the sooner everybody realizes that, the better for all of us and the better for all the people in the State of Illinois."
"Well, Representative Matijevich, the Appropriation's Chairmen...from all four Caucuses have been meeting, slowly, for the last ten days and yesterday was our last meeting. We've finished the budget. Representative Ropp."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could you give a little clearer definition of, 'They've finished the budget'? Do you mean they threw it away? Or, is it still available for print? We could look at it...What is the termination, the 2 89th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE July 12, 1991 definition, of what you meant?"
"Well, Mr. Weaver's right there. He's been in all the meetings. Go talk to him. As you well know, we go over every single budget. The budgets are all finished; every budget is finished. So, your staff can draft them up, or my staff. We can bring them out here and vote on them today or tomorrow, anytime. They're finished, Mr. Ropp. Finished, finished, concluded, kaput, over. Done."
"But not voted,..."
"So, call Family Law, Representative Preston. Representative Stepan."
"Mr. Speaker, could we have a request from Representative Phelps, that...that he sing one chorus of, 'Please Release Me'?
"There'll be no demonstrations allowed on the House floor. Over the Calendar, Conference Committee, appears House Bill 971, Representative Wolf."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker. ...First Corrected Conference Committee Report to House Bill 971, having failed in the Senate, I would now request that a Second Conference Committee be appointed."
"Gentleman moves to not adopt First Corrected Conference Committee Report to House Bill 971 and asks for a Second Conference Committee. All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Motion carries."
Speaker Giglio: "The House will come to order. On nonconcurrence, appears Senate Bill 1421. The Lady from St. Clair, Representative Wyvetter Younge."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to refuse to receive and send it to a Conference Committee."
"Any discussion on the Lady's motion? The Lady refuses to receive on House Amendments 2, 3 and 4 to Senate 3 89th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE July 12, 1991 Bill 1421. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Lady asks that a Conf...Conference Committee re...be appointed. Alright...we're going to continue on to Conference Committee Reports. If some of you would like to have your Bills called. House Bill 56, Representative Santiago. Out of the record. House Bill 121, Representative Currie. Out of the record. Representative Wolf, on 971. Representative Homer, on 1415. Representative Steczo, on 927. Out of the record. Representative Curran, 1499. Out of the record. Representative Granberg, House Bill 2010. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Representative Keane. Representative Cur...Representative Currie, on 2510. House Bill 2510? The Lady from Cook, Representative Currie."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is a proposal from the Department of Public Aid amending the State Finance Act, so that they can make child care payments in a timely fashion. Apparently, there were some policy changes required by the Federal Family Support Act of 1988, and this Amendment will mean that we can pay people directly and meet the requirements of that federal Act without requiring people to go through the Court of Claims. So, I'd be happy to try to answer your questions and would appreciate your support for the Conference Committee Report."
"Representative Black."
"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. It's my understanding that...if I might ask a question of the Sponsor, that this is a Department of Public Aid language and it's needed to reimburse daycare providers, something near and dear to my heart, and, if we don't pass this then people who are trying to get off of the public welfare rolls, who will not 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 have access to daycare, then we defeat the very purpose that we're trying to accomplish. So, if the Sponsor would tell me that that is, indeed, the language, I would be more than happy to rise in support of her Motion to adopt this report."
"Well, she's smiling, Representative Currie."
"I will repreat what I originally said, Representative Black, and that was that this is Department of Public Aid language to try to make sure timely payments are made to day care providers."
"Outstanding. Let's...Let's all support this Conference Committee Report."
"The question is, 'Shall the House accept the First Conference Committee Report to House Bill 2510?' And, on that, all those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The voting is open. This is final action. Representative Dunn, 'aye'. Have all voted who wish? Representative Black,"
"Well, Mr. Speaker, all I can say is that not only has my microphone been overloaded in the last few weeks with many a short circuit, as you recall, when I've not been able to speak, but now I think the circuits on the board are overloaded and with those blinking red lights we might have to evacuate the chamber. I'd rather err on the safety..."
"Representative Black, are you in agreement now that we should dump the Roll Call while this thing is on?"
"According to the rules, you didn't take the record, did you?"
"Yes, we did, we took the record, and you want the Chair to dump this Roll Call?"
"That's right. Well, if we can do it in accordance with the rules, Mr. Speaker. There's obviously something wrong with the board here. We have people who feel very strongly 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 on both sides of this issue. They're voting 'yes' and 'no'."
"Representative Matijevich."
"Speaker, it occurred to me that very possibly, when I had that Motion to take from the table yesterday, all those 'present' votes were really 'yes' votes maybe we oughta get back to that."
"Representative Black, it's been suggested that I...I should not come up and Chair the House. It seems like I'm in trouble every time Giglio's in the Chair."
"I'll say one thing, Mr. Speaker. Now there are people voting on three sides of this issue. I think it's time to call in a licensed electrician, as well as a plumber, and flush this Roll Call."
"Somebody said they saw some water coming out of the electrical lines, so maybe that's the problem. We're gonna try to leave this on the board right now so the electrician maybe can figure out what's happening. Here he comes.
"You know, when this Session started, I think he had a full head of hair, as I recall."
"Representative Weaver."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I...I've been in the minority ever since I've been here, and now I see that I've only got one vote and a number of my colleagues have three votes, and, I would appeal to the Chair that perhaps your absence last night may have...may have triggered this off. I...I think, had you been here last night, the board wouldn't be...would be reacting this way."
"I'll tell you, after what happened last night, I wish I would've been here. Representative Logan. (sic) Olson. Representative Olson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before the electrician digs too 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day deep into the inner workings should check or not." of the July 12, 1991 board, perhaps you and see if it (sic) the got his paycheck yet
"On this green, a few question, there are several voting voting red, a number voting 'present.' Representative Black."
"I have this figured out, Mr. Speaker. when There are times Representative Currie and I stand in total agreement, not often, but when we do, the board doesn't know what do, that's the problem. to Representative Currie and I are gonna have to get together and get this straightened
"Representative Cowlishaw." out."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wonder...I know that this is a very common inquiry of the Chair. Mr. Speaker, could you please tell me how I am recorded? Speaker." That's a shame, Mr.
"I'm not sure which light is the brightest here, whether it's the 'present' light, or the green light, or the red light on this board. a possible 'yes' 'present'." and it I...I...I...I don't... It's maybe 'no' and an undecided
"Mr. Speaker, you know, they say that women are entitled to a certain amount of indecision, but the fact that I am occasionally recorded as voting 'yes', 'present', the 'no' vote goes away. I don't 'no' and altogether, on the same Bill, but occasionally, really believe, Mr. Speaker, that's an indication of indecision, and I just kind of wondered what you thought I was recorded as, what the vote was. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."
"Yes, Representative Hoffman. There is a message now coming up on the board, and it says, 'This machine is guaranteed to operate to its fullest After June 30th, whatever happens, until June 30th. happens,' and then 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 there's a question mark, so I guess we'll have to wait. Okay. I think the board is ready for a record, so, all those who've voted...all those voted who wish? All those who've voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question there are 114 voting 'yes' and 1 voting 'no', and the House does concur with Senate Amendment...does concur on the First Conference Committee Report to House Bill 2510, and this Bill, having received the required Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Turner, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to announce that on Wednesday, this past Wednesday, Letitia DeWitt and Bill Anderson were the proud parents of a baby girl, Allison Fritz Anderson. She was born at 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday, seven pounds five ounces and she's at home doing well."
"Thank you, Representative Parke, for what purpose do you arise, Sir."
"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I'm just kind of curious. Is there any opportunity for us to come back at 1:00 p.m...so we can go about our business if we can't get the business of the House lined up, yet?"
"Well, the Chair will take that request into consideration, Representative Parke, and let's see what we can find out. Senate Bill 1016, Representative Obrzut. Out of the record. Representative Obrzut, you wish to call this Bill? We have some...some Resolutions we're gonna read and act on. We're not going to recess, but the Clerk has some Agreed Resolutions we'd like to read into the record. Mr. Clerk."
"Senate Joint Resolution 87, offered by Representative Giglio and Balthis. House Resolutions 897 offered by Representative Daniels. 904, Hultgren; 907, Giglio; 908, Weller; 909, Doederlein; 910, Barnes; 911, 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 Daniels; 912, Homer; 913, Woolard and 915; Wennlund."
"Representative Matijevich moves for the adoption of Agreed Resolutions. Representative Matijevich."
"Speaker, was 897 included in that or not?"
"Yes."
"Well, I was gonna make a note for the Members because some may know him that was a Resolution by Lee Daniels which congratulated Parke Livingston...who served for many years at the University of Illinois and since 19...I think it was 1954...with the Illinois Medical Center Commission and since 1972, as its president. So, I would, on this side of the aisle, also, offer congratulations to Parke Livingston for a long...successful career in education, and I'm sure that everybody joins me, in that and, with that, move for the adoption of the Agreed Resolution."
"Any discussion? The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Black."
"Representative Black."
"Yes, I would just like to echo, Mr. Speaker, the kind words of Representative Matijevich about a very dedicated...public servant, an outstanding career at the University of Illinois. We appreciate those kind words and certainly want to join in that on...behalf of the Gentleman, but, also, a question of the Chair. In the absence of...Representative, now Congressman Ewing...we just want to make sure that some of these Resolutions are being run by some of our people so that we may take a look at them. I don't think any that you read off...I'm sure they are agreed and no problem, but I think that we have simply not seen them. I would suggest that maybe Myron Olson be involved in that process so that we are...are, you know, we know that everything is agreed in the absence of 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 Congressman Ewing. I don't think anybody on our side of the aisle has seen any of these Resolutions."
"Representative Matijevich."
"By...by the way, mentioning Tom Ewing's name, one of the Resolutions does congratulate Tom on his election as U.S. Congressman, and we know he's not here today. He's no longer going to be with us, and so from all of us on this side of the aisle, and the other side of the aisle, we congratulate Tom and wish him the best as a U.S. Congressman."
"Representative Black."
"Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. It's nice that Representative Matijevich and I are in agreement today, and I think, again, his remarks on former State Representative and Deputy Minority Leader Thomas Ewing, certainly appreciated by our side of the aisle. Representative Ewing served with great distinction here for many, many years, and I know that we certainly join in Representative Matijevich's remarks. We had the, I was fortunate enough to see his swearing-in ceremony the other day on C-Span, and I know that Tom Ewing will represent the 15th Congressional District with the same energy and creativity that he represented his former House district and we thank Representative Matijevich for those kind words, and I know we all, in this chamber, wish Congressman Tom Ewing the very best as he begins to wrestle with some of the problems that...face this country, and he'll do a good of job there, we know, as he did here in the Illinois House of Representatives, and we again thank Representative Matijevich for his kind words."
"On the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions, Representative Matijevich moves, all those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. In the opinion, of the 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 Chair the 'ayes' have it, and the Resolutions are adopted. Further Resolutions?"
"House Resolution 914 offered by Representative Davis."
"Committee on Assignments. Resolution."
"House Resolution 906 offered by Representative Anthony Young, with respect to the memory of Alice Dempsey Neville."
"Representative Matijevich moves the adoption of the Death Resolution. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed, 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Death Resolution is adopted. Representative Capparelli in the Chair."
"We'd like to present...a check from the Senate/House softball game that was so successful. We promised that some of the proceeds would go to Mary Leone because she had lost all her furniture. They stole it from her, and so we are so happy to present her with a $500 check through the Senate and House softball game."
"Thank you, Ralph, I think what we wanted to mention while she was defending our interests in the Persian Gulf, why, that's when her property was stolen and we enjoy your support when we come around and ask for $5 and $10, even though those tickets say $1 on them, because it does go for a worthy cause, and we're happy today to actually present money to this very worthy person. Mary, congratulations."
"I hope nobody got hurt during this game---I heard it was pretty wild. I just want to thank everybody. I think everybody's been wonderful, and I haven't hardly had time to even think about my losses because everybody's been so good to me, and I just want to thank everyone. Thank you."
"The House will come to order. The Chair would like to make a few announcements. We are going to stand in 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 recess until 4:00 p.m., and come back and do some work, and the Chair would like to...inform the Members that in all likelihood we will probably be here...Saturday and Sunday...So, if anybody's going to be gone for an extended period on both sides of the aisle, they should inform their leadership as to 'where' and 'when'. Very, very important as to where you may be contacted over the weekend, if, by chance, you would leave. So, the House now stands in recess until 4:00 p.m."
"The House will come to order. It's the intent of the Chair to call a few Motions that are on file and perhaps a Conference Committee Report, if anyone is ready to hear it. It will then be our intent to adjourn until 9:30 a.m. tomorrow morning. If there are no...if there are no...there's no movement or no breakthroughs this evening, then tomorrow at 9:30 a.m., it is our intent to adjourn until Sunday at 6:00 p.m., but if...but if there is some movement tonight, then we intend to stay here all day tomorrow and Sunday. Representative Walsh has a Motion."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Motion concerns the problem that's presently occuring with the possible closing of the armories throughout the state and what we're doing with this Motion is making a request that the Congress reconsider their present proposal about the closing of these armories. I request a...favorable vote on behalf of this Resolution. Thank you."
"Alright. The Gentlemen's Motion is pursuant to Rule 43 to bypass committee and place HJR 60 on the Speaker's table for Immediate Consideration, and on the Gentlemen's Motion, Representative Black."
"Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I simply rise to support the Gentleman's Motion; also, to support the underlying Resolution. It needs to get out to Washington 12 89th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE July 12, 1991 as soon as possible."
"Alright, on the Gentleman's Motion, is there any objections? Hearing none, the Attendance Roll Call will be used, and the Motion carries. Now, Representative Walsh, on the Resolution. Weller: nove for the Did you wish to speak to it or simply adoption? The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Resolution. A11 in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no', The 'ayes' have it. Representative Weller, did you wish to speak to this Resolution?" T was just "Mr. Speaker going to rise in a move of bi-partisan support of Representative Walsh's Resolution. the House, this is actually an important Resolution because it points out Ladies and Gentlemen the of the the for damage to emergency capabilities of state a quick response if there's ever a national emergency overseas ог within the confines of the United States because Operation Quicksilver could reduce up to of of 65% the number National Guards men and women that we would have in the This is an important Resolution. It's State of Illinois. very timely, and I urge for its adoption." favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The
"A11 i. n 'ayes' have it. The Resolution's adopted. Representative Mr. Currie, do you wish to call your Conference Committee? Mr. Keane. Representative Currie, already been done. Keane? Curran. Mr. Granberg. on 2510? Did that. It's Representative Munizzi. Turn on Representative Munizzi, Speaker please. The Chair recognizes Representative Munizzi." "Your McPike: Representative light is on, Munizzi requests to Representative Obrzut. Agreed Resolutions. Representative. be turned off. Representative Olson."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This tall guy walkin' down the center aisle is Dick 1.3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 89th Legislative Day July 12, 1991 Klemm, who has joined us after significant absence."
"Death Resolutions."
"House Resolution 920, offered by Speaker Madigan with respect to the memory of Len O'Connor."
"Representative Matijevich moves the adoption of Death Resolution. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Resolution is adopted. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution 916, offered by Representative DeJaegher; 917, DeJaegher; 918, DeJaegher and 919, Lang."
"Representative Matijevich."
"Mr. Speaker, I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."
"The Gentleman moves the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Representative Mautino. Representative Mautino now stands (sic moves) that the House stands Adjourned until tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the House stands adjourned. First Special Session will come to order. Attendance Roll Call for the Regular Session will be used as Attendance Roll Call for the First Special Session. Representative Matijevich now moves that the First Special Session stands Adjourned until tomorrow at the hour of 9:35 a.m. All in favor say 'aye', opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The House stands Adjourned." 14 REPORT: TIFLDAY PAGE: 001 STATE OF ILLINOIS 87TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX JULY 12, 1991 92/04/02 15:59:08 HB-0971 CONFERENCE HB-2510 CONFERENCE PAGE 3 PAGE 4 SB-1421 REFUSE TO RECEDE HJR-0060 ADOPTED PAGE 3 PAGE 13 HJR-0060 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 12 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MCPIKE PAGE 1 PRAYER - REPRESENTATIVE RICE PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 REPRESENTATIVE GIGLIO IN THE CHAIR PAGE 3 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 8 GENERAL RESOLUTIONS PAGE 11 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 11 RECESS PAGE 12 HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MCPIKE PAGE 12 REPRESENTATIVE GIGLIO IN THE CHAIR PAGE 13 REPRESENTATIVE MCPIKE IN THE CHAIR PAGE 13 DEATH RESOLUTIONS PAGE 14 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 14 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 14 FIRST SPECIAL SESSION PAGE 14 FIRST SPECIAL SESSION ADJOURNMENT PAGE 14