Illinois House Floor Debate — March 21, 2012

Speaker Lyons: "Good afternoon, Illinois. Your House of Representatives will come to order. We shall be led in prayer today by Reverend Doctor Randall… Rande Smith, who is with the Community Church of Rolling Meadows in Rolling Meadows, Illinois. Dr. Smith is the guest of Representative Mussman. Members and guests are asked to please refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and pagers and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. Dr. Smith."

"Eternal God, on this day 73 years ago, Kate Smith recorded God Bless America. That song has been sung at sporting events, at entertainment venues and in religious worship services ever since. It has been sung by people of all ages, races, and creeds. I suspect it has been sung by most everyone in this room this afternoon and that song is our prayer today. We are asking for Your blessing in a general way on our national and local governments and very specifically on Illinois and this General Assembly. And just as we remember today that good thing that Kate Smith did 73 years ago, we pray that some good thing might come out of our work together today that will be remembered and appreciated by future citizens of this great state. I pray that You would guide these Legislators so that they might bring honor to You, to those of us who live in Illinois, and to themselves and allow me to conclude our prayer with a charge that we end our time of worship with friends, go into Your Session today in peace, have courage, hold on to what is good, return to no one evil for evil, strengthen the faint-hearted, support the weak, help the suffering, 09700114.doc 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 honor everyone, and love and serve your God in whose name we pray, Amen."

"Representative Patti Bellock, would you please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance."

"Roll call for Attendance. Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, status of the Democrats."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect the excused absences of Representatives Biss, Dugan, Ford, Franks, Jones, Mayfield, and Thapedi."

"Leader Bost, the GOP."

"Mr. Clerk, take the record. There's 105 Members responding to the Roll Call, we have a quorum present, prepared to do the work of the people of the State of Illinois. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Deb Mell, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Deb."

"Okay. So, this past fall, Econ Illinois held a stock market game, a statewide competition and they invited local schools to participate. I'm very proud to announce that my local high school, Theodore Roosevelt High School, took first place in the state. They are… they're up in the gallery. And we have educators Mr. Spahovic and Mr. Alegre and we have students Timothy Dahlstrom, Elijah Gebre, and Kimberly Mayo. I'm very proud of them and if we could just give them a quick round of applause. You guys, stand up."

"Congratulations, Roosevelt High School. Welcome to your Capitol. We're very proud of you. Representative Mike Unes, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Mike?"

"Please proceed."

"Welcome to your Capitol, enjoy the day, proud to have you. Representative Mike Bost."

"Please proceed, Leader."

"Representative Patti Bellock, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Patti."

"All right. Ladies and Gentlemen, as we well know we received memos prior to our break and we're going to be going through your list of priorities; we have it from the Republicans, we have it from the Democrats. So, we'll be skipping around, most of these are Third Readings, some are Second going to move to Third, and I'll be going through this alphabetically. So, pay attention, stay on the floor, stay in your seats, so if we see you there, we can call on you. Representative Acevedo, on the Order of Second 09700114.doc 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Reading, you have House Bill 4510. Representative Acevedo, 4510. Do you wish to move that to Third Reading? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Barickman, on the Order of Third Reading, you have House Bill 5314. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from Champaign, Representative Barickman."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation on House Bill 5314. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 5314 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Ramey, to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 105 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional 09700114.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Dan Beiser, on the Order of Third Reading, you have House Bill 4452. Out of the record. Representative Toni Berrios, on the Order of Third Reading, on page 20 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4096. Out of the record. Representative Patti Bellock, on page 21 on the Calendar, you have House Bill 4990. Representative Bellock. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Bellock, out of the record? Out of the record. Representative John Bradley, you have, on the Order of Second Reading, House Bill 4568. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Costello."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like to withdraw my notes from this Bill."

Speaker Lyons: "Gentleman makes a Motion to withdraw his Amendments. So, all those in favor of the Amendments… withdrawing the Amendments signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. The Amendments are withdrawn. Anything further, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Kelly Burke, on page 23 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5211. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5211 amends the Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Practices Act, specifically banning a telecommunications carrier from placing third party charges on a landline telephone bill except in specific instances that are defined in the Bill. The Bill will stop the practice of cramming which is the placement of fraudulent charges that were neither authorized nor utilized by the landline customer. Those fraudulent charges have added up to billions of dollars and they have plagued customers from all sectors: residential, business, and government users. It's an initiative of the Attorney General's Office. And the Attorney General's Office worked very hard with the industry to come up with the exceptions and has the support of the industry. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 5211 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Morrison and Riley, like to be recorded? Representative Riley, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 105 Members 09700114.doc 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Chapa LaVia, on the Order of Third Readings, on page 19 of the Calendar, Linda, you have House Bill 3826. Representative Chapa LaVia. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. Happy day after election. This Bill was a… is a Bill that I ran last year and it… in the Senate they changed it because they felt that some kids shouldn’t be allowed to have service animals. And what we found out it was going against ADA regulations at the federal level, so we need to put it back where it was. So, I ask for an 'aye' vote, but what it is, is a gut and replacement. Changes the language regarding the types of disabilities for which a service animal may be utilized and restores language requiring schools to permit service animals at school functions. The very interesting thing about this is that now a days people are even… kids are even using dogs when it has to do with diabetes. If the kid's getting ready to go into shock, the dog can actually sense that and that… and then there's, you know, they give signals to administer insulin to the child. This helps with autism. This helps… the whole spectrum of Asperger's and things like that. So, I ask for 'yes' votes. Thank you." 09700114.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 3826 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Monique Davis, Deb Mell, like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 105 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Mike Bost, on the Order of Third Readings, you have, on page 24 of the Calendar, House Bill 5780. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Leader Mike Bost."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 5780 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who 09700114.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 wish? Representative Gaffney, Reboletti, like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 104 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 1 Member voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Costello, on page 20 of the Calendar, on House Bills-Third Reading, you have House Bill 4129. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the General Assembly. House Bill 4129, this legislation would allow someone to register and enforce a child support administrative order in Circuit Court. Currently, administrative court orders cannot be enforced or amended by Circuit Court judges. Those orders can only be enforced or amended by administrative courts. The proposed legislation would make it easier for someone who is already in Circuit Court on another matter. For example, if they were in Circuit Court to deal with the issue of visitation for a minor child, he or she could also deal with child support issues rather than having to go to two different court systems. I thank you and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? The Chair recognizes Representative Jim Durkin."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, it would not be, Representative."

"Actually… I mean the design of this is to cut down on the… the problems in the court system as far as having to go to administrative court and to Circuit Court for a child support issue. This is something that I worked with… with the Department of Health and Family Services at their advice."

"Right. Yes. All you're giving is the court the ability to alter a final order, and I'm sorry from a legal standpoint, maybe I didn’t answer it correctly the first time."

"Yes. It… the entire child support process? I'm not sure I understand your question exactly."

"Yes. It allows the judge to alter it if there's a change in circumstances."

"Not if it's issued by the department."

"Seeing no further discussion, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 4129 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brown, Bill Mitchell, Carol Sente. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 105 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Fred Crespo, on page 19 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Third Readings, you have House Bill 3810. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 3810 amends the School Code to abolish the legislative tuition waiver, commonly known as General Assembly scholarships program, after June 1 of 2012. A couple of things… a couple of points I need to make. Number 1) these are not scholarships. There's no money behind it. They are 09700114.doc 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 really unfunded mandates. We tell our colleges and universities in the state to accept these students and not to charge them tuition. Number 2) the colleges do make money. I mean, they have to recover their costs and as a result, what they do is they raise tuition rates to make sure that other students subsidize the cost of these tuition waivers. We've had many other cases that we've read in the paper of some abuses to the program as well. I'll be happy to answer any questions."

Speaker Lyons: "The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Will the… excuse me, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields." Davis, M.: "Representative, does your legislation totally eliminate the scholarships?"

"Yes, it does." Davis, M.: "And your reasoning is?"

"Again, as… the program is flawed at so many different levels, Representative. Number 1) most importantly, we are… it's an unfunded mandate. It's on the colleges not to charge these students tuition and they're losing collectibles because of that. As a result, what they're doing is having other students subsidize the cost of those tuition waivers not the scholarships." Davis, M.: "Now, Representative, you know, I taught school, and whether I had 20 kids or 30 kids my salary was the same. So, to put an extra child in a college class is not adding one additional dollar to that tuition of that university. So, where are you coming up with this?" 09700114.doc 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Representative, I… I respectfully disagree with you. There's only so many seats. When colleges admit students, freshman class, there's a limited amount of seats that they have." Davis, M.: "Well, that…"

"That’s why… that’s why they had… that's why they cut and not everyone gets in. So, to say…" Davis, M.: "So, they're not claiming… they're not claiming that they're overcrowded. That is not the university's claim. Let me ask this question. Are the un… did the university personnel, did they lose their children's scholarship, in your Bill?"

"I…" Davis, M.: "The university people get half tuition for their children. Did you cut that out too?"

"I did not cut that out. It wasn’t a part of this Bill. I believe there's a Representative who is carrying that Bill. And where as…" Davis, M.: "To the Bill. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. Monique D. Davis, State Representative of the 27th District, I believe we had corruption in the Governor's Office, but we did not eliminate that office. We've had disparities in the early childhood education pay, you know, saving for college fund for your children. We have not eliminated that office. Now, what I see here is an attempt to remove from the working- class people of the State of Illinois any opportunity to get anything back for their tax dollar. Now, the people who get these scholarships they have a right to move, parents get divorced, children go with this one or the other one 09700114.doc 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 after getting the scholarship. So, I believe the Bill that says the state board will notarize the address or the addresses have to be notarized, I believe, that’s a good way to go but to take one more thing… one more thing from the average American or Illinoisan who is working…"

"Monique, your time expired. We'll give you another minute." Davis, M: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that working everyday Americans and those who live in Illinois who pay taxes, who don’t get big fat contracts from the State of Illinois, deserve something. This is a very small something. If you had three kids in college and the State of Illinois can give one of them a scholarship, let's do it. I think the problem is there are too many people who are not rich going to the University of Illinois. There were too many people of color getting those scholarships. I think that’s what the problem might be. I urge a 'no' vote on this Bill and you ought to speak to it. Keep giving your residents something for their tax money. Vote 'no'."

"Representative Roger Eddy."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct."

"Correct, Representative."

"No, it's not, Representative. If I may add, for anyone to suggest, the most scholarships… I'm sorry, tuition waivers you can give in any year are eight. And for anyone to suggest that they only have eight students in their districts that have this need, they're wrong. We know we have a hundreds more to that."

"Thirteen point five million dollars this year."

"Roger, I'll give you another minute."

"Thank you."

"Representative Bost. Representative Bost."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, Representative, if you recall when I started speaking today, there's a fundamental flaw with this program. Notwithstanding all of the abuses that we've heard 09700114.doc 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 about, this is an unfunded mandate. We're basically just telling… "

"…the colleges and universities…"

"…we know these kids or students are occupying those seats, but you cannot charge them for tuition; hence, you have to charge everybody…"

"…else to subsidize the program. That’s even before we get into the abuses and everything else. I mean, it's… it's special… "

"Mike, give you another minute."

"Representative Al Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, the total amount of the General Assembly tuition waivers is thirteen and a half million dollars?"

"Correct."

"Do you know the total amount of waivers granted every year to public institutions? Do you know what that number is?"

"I'm sorry. Total waivers?"

"Total waivers."

"From all different types of waivers? I know there's some other waivers that have to do with the total amount."

"All different types… all waivers, all waivers going to public universities in total?"

"I don’t know the total."

"I know, it's $414 million. Thirteen and a half million dollars, there's two types of waivers, mandatory and discretionary. For the purposes of me asking you questions, mandatory waivers can be thought of as statutory waivers. Discretionary waivers are waivers that are left up to universities. About 1300 people go to school on the basis 09700114.doc 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 of our thirteen and a half million dollars in the legislative scholarships. Fifty thousand people every year, a report from the IBHE that I'm holding in my hand, 50 thousand people for a total of $414 million go to school on waivers. Some of the other mandatory waivers that are set by statute are ROTC, of course, the General Assembly, teachers special ed, senior citizens, veterans grants. That's about $66 million. The rest which is about $348 million actually are waivers that the public institutions give out. So, the issue that somehow this $13 million that come from people that many people respect which is us, they sent us down here, $13 million the schools themselves give out $348 million worth of waivers every year, including graduate assistants and people of that nature. Now, what… what would you say to that especially when we talk about cost. I think that… I think that that fact just obliterates the whole issue of cost to the institutions."

"Well, I disagree, Representative. If what you're…"

"What you can’t disagree… you can't disagree with these figures, Representative."

"I'm… I'm… not refuting the numbers. I have the report, I see where you're talking about and they're accurate. If what your suggesting is that we should get rid of all the waivers… "

"I did not say that."

"…I disagree with you."

"Well… "

"There's no way you get rid of veterans waivers."

"It… it… you know what… " 09700114.doc 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"There are some that are well-deserved and some that have… "

"Representative… Representative Crespo…"

"…a process in place to deal with it."

"Representative…"

"Not to leave it up to us."

"Representative Crespo… you know, I mean, we know each other, but don’t put words in my mouth. We just got finished with the campaign yesterday. I did not say that. I'm saying the $13 million of legislative scholarships pales in comparison to the $348 million…"

"Representative Riley, one more minute."

"Thank you."

"Representative…"

"To the Bill. Let me read something from this very… you know, we ask the Executive Branch to do these special reports for us all the time. This is a report that comes out every year and I would suggest everybody reads it. I'm just going to read you a conclusion from the IBHE, 'public university tuition and fee waivers enhance access to higher education for a large number of students from various backgrounds and diverse qualifications and talent. Mandatory waivers provide access to students and support statewide initiatives where discretionary waivers allow institutions with varying missions to attract and retain a diverse student body'. That’s something I'm reading from a report. All that I'm saying is, you know, let's look at reality instead of making these broad public policy 09700114.doc 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 decisions on the basis of anecdote and things that just make no sense, whatsoever. Thank you."

"Representative Sacia, three minutes."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Gentleman yields." 09700114.doc 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Representative, what burden is this costing the State of Illinois."

"It's not costing the State of Illinois nothing per se. We're talking about the colleges and state universities."

"State universities is a part of the State of Illinois."

"Sure."

"Okay. So, we're talking about $31 million?"

"Thirteen point five million dollars at the last report."

"Thirteen point five? Okay."

"Correct."

"Okay. But chances are if these students were to graduate they will make a return on the dollars as far as being able to work and pay taxes because we are in dire need here in the State of Illinois. And when you take into consideration… when you take into consideration that over the past few years, we've had over 926 years of people who were falsely incarcerated and they cost the state $214 million. Those were the wrongfully convicted and we'll never get our money back on that. There's no returns on those dollars and I don’t hear anyone trying to get rid of the prison system. And so, furthermore, it doesn't take into consideration that the wrongfully incarcerated doesn’t have nothing to do with the cost of the ones that actually committed the crime that we're going to have to incarcerate. So, don’t you think that it is better that we try to educate… after all, the money that you are talking about belongs to the taxpayers. So, surely, if we could 09700114.doc 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 wrongfully incarcerate people, it should be okay that we should educate them considering it would be cheaper, considering it is their tax dollars, considering that they will be putting moneys back into the coffer of the State of Illinois so we will no longer have to borrow or either sell the assets of the state. Would you not agree?"

"Representative, all I can say is I hear you."

"Would you not agree?"

"I… I'm not sure how we jumped from a tuition waiver to incarceration. Some of your premises I don’t agree with. Just to say that… "

"Well… "

"…yes, because you go to college you're going to graduate, that’s not the case. We have two state colleges that have four-year graduation rates of 4 percent. So, to make the assumption that because you go to college you're going to graduate and move on with the rest of what you said, I… I hear you."

"Well, as far as I'm concerned, Representative, as far as those two colleges that you're talking about, the rates are down as far as college education and as far as people enrolling in college. And I'm really proud of what the Federal Government is doing… especially Senator Durbin, he's talking about having the… "

"Mary, your time expired, one more minute."

"Senator Durbin is talking about having the private student loans. I know it's totally different, but he's talked about having that… so they could file bankruptcy. So, that would be like a grant to them. So, this is the 09700114.doc 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 same principle. We should allow these students and their parents to use their dollars because they're being taxed twice. It is a benefit to the State of Illinois. And I would urge all of my colleagues to please vote 'no' and allow the taxpayers to send their children to college. After all, they're being taxed twice. Thank you."

"Representative Moffitt."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, Representative. I explained to Representative Bost before you, it's is a fundamentally flawed program. There's no money behind it. I'm not even… you know, we'll talk… if you want to talk about the abuses and what's been reported by the BGA, the Tribune, we can do that, but there's no money here. Now $13.5 million I guess is a relative number, $13.5 million is $13.5 million, that the universities have to charge the other students so they can subsidize this tuition waiver." 09700114.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Representative Jakobsson, three minutes."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Sponsor yields." 09700114.doc 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Representative, I want to thank you for bringing this Bill to us. I know that people said that it's been here before and yes, it has been here before, I sponsored it once, other people have sponsored it and I think that's because a lot of us really believe that it's time to eliminate these scholarships. And I had heard people talk about abuses and maybe that's a reason. To me, the abuse that really is involved with these legislative scholarships is the abuse to the universities. The abuse to the universities who get nothing in return, except some more students and more… but no monetary return for those. It's abuse to the taxpayers because we're sending them a bill. Because look at our fiscal situation that we've had for the last several years, our universities are suffering, our constituents are suffering. I want to thank you for bringing this Bill and can you tell us again, do I have this right? Well, you tell me. What is the amount that we have had unfunded scholarships in the last year?"

"As of the last report, Representative, it was $13.5 million a year for the last… for this current year."

"Thank you. Thirteen point five billion dollars just sending students… sending them a bill with never an intention of paying it. So, thank you, again. I would urge an 'aye' vote…"

"Thank you."

"…on this Bill."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. To the Bill. The Sponsor and I spoke at some length prior to 09700114.doc 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 his introduction of this Bill. I had a lot of questions; he was kind enough to answer all those questions for me. This was back in the summer when this issue was getting an awful lot of attention. He introduced it during… during the break prior to the Session beginning here this year. And some of you know that I go back a little ways and… and I received a call from a young woman… well, she's not so young anymore… from Bloomington, Illinois, who said, you know, when you were there previously you gave me a scholarship. I am now an attorney. She works in the education field and she's at Bloomington, Illinois. She said, what you did helped me get my education. The Ladies from Cook, the Gentleman from Cook, the Gentleman from Winnebago, argued articulately as to why we should keep these scholarships and they really do help individuals around this state. The problem is this. The program itself has brought the Body into disrepute. Rightly or wrongly, the overwhelming majority of the Members of this House and of the Senate, the overwhelming majority of us, award the scholarships correctly. We do not abuse the program, but the program itself has brought this Body into disrepute, and I think that in and of itself is worthy of consideration as to why we should support this Bill. And let's not ignore the money issue. I mean thirteen and a half million dollars to the University of Illinois doesn’t break the bank. The state owes them, what, about $400 million already, but thirteen and a half million dollars is not a drop in the bucket. It is real money. And as much as we would like to help the students in our districts, and there is a genuine need, at the same time 09700114.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 there is a financial impact to all of the universities in this state to which these scholarships are awarded. So, for that reason, I stand in support of the Bill and hope that you will vote 'yes'."

"Representative Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Freddie, I have a Bill similar to this that takes the scholarships away from all the professors and all the deans in all the universities. How would you vote on that Bill, Fred?"

"Well, I haven't seen your Bill, Representative. I see that there are some common things. Number 1) they are tuition waivers. I'm not sure what process they used to give those out, I believe it's for their employees. I'm not sure there's been any unethical behavior on how they give those scholar… or those tuition waivers. To this point, I haven't read the analysis. I'm looking at this vote right now. As soon as you bring up the Bill, I'll be more than happy to take a good look at that."

"Fred, because this Bill is going to… you know, a lot of my colleagues talk to me in committee and asked me to amend the Bill to tax the universities. They said they wanted to do various kind of things and put a cap on the amount of money you could spend. You could be getting paid to be able to accept this scholarship. So, there's a lot of things wrong with that. I don’t want to tax it and I don’t want to put a cap on it. If we are going to get rid of them, why don’t we just get rid of all of them? It cost us 09700114.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 $387 million that the higher education said that it cost for all scholarships through the whole State of Illinois. That would be private colleges, that’s city colleges, the State of Illinois, the tuition waivers. So, if we're going to get rid of all of them, why don’t we… if you want to get rid of the General Assembly's, why don’t we just get rid of all of them, Fred?"

"Representative, again, we've heard the debate today that there's $414 million in tuition waivers in the state. Each one, we need to look at each and every one of them and look at them on their merits. I don’t know… For example, I don’t think I want to go on record saying that we're going to get rid of tuition waivers for veterans. Absolutely not, I cannot agree with that. So, I think we need to look at each and every one individually and if it relieves some of the pressure points for the colleges and universities, I think we should take a look at that."

"So, you calling this Bill because it's a financial burden on the state? Is it the money or you just want to eliminate the scholarship?"

"Representative, one thing I've learned in five years I've been here, you run something that you can pass. If I had added other things to this Bill, I'm not sure if I'd been able to pass this Bill. And it's not only the $13.5 million which is a relative number I guess, but we've heard over and over again like Representative Eddy had mentioned earlier, even though we know that this program's been criticized it seems like every three or four weeks we read something else in the paper about someone else doing 09700114.doc 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 something that they're not supposed to do with a tuition waiver. At some point it has to stop. We just can't continue doing that."

"Well, Fred, here, I know that there's been a lot of stuff in the media about people misusing the scholarships. They're not using them correctly, but you know, there's also in the Secretary of State, when you drive a car and somebody gets a ticket or a citation, they don’t come to the General Assembly and take everybody's license here in the General Assembly. You know, there should be guidelines on how you use the scholarships. I believe that if somebody's misused…"

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Arroyo, one more minute, please."

"I believe that if somebody misuses something, Fred, they should take it away, don’t let them take it… don't let them use it anymore, but don’t punish 118 Members in this General Assembly because they've used it. I've used it in my district and I've used it correctly. I… I think, I would hope that I used it correctly. So, I don’t want you to take my 8 scholarships away because somebody else misused it. I think we need more guidelines and probably put some new rules and keep the scholarship, because in my community it works and I want to continue to use it, Fred. And I'm not… I'm not talking against the Bill because… I'm just pissed that this is what's going to happen. Everybody is saying, well, no, you know, I don’t want… I don't think that we should punish everybody because of one person. You know, 09700114.doc 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 those other people have mistreated the system, but don’t take it away from the people that are using it, Fred."

"Well, two points, Representative. Number 1) the driver's license you pay for that, and secondly, you used a term there that I didn’t understand very well. It must've been a Spanish word. I don’t know."

"You want me to say it in Spanish? Fred, should I say it in Spanish, Fred?"

"No, that's okay."

"Representative."

"Thank you."

"We have four final speakers: Winters, Mulligan, Acevedo, and Monique Davis 'cause her name was used in debate and then we're cutting off the debate. Representative Winters, three minutes."

"Representative Mulligan."

"Representative… Representative Acevedo." Acevedo: "Mr. Speaker, I want to yield my time to Representative Riley."

"Representative Riley, three minutes." 09700114.doc 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I'm very proud of the Body that… that I serve in. We all went through a process the last few months to get back down here. I'm very proud to serve when there's issues, there's things to root out. I think we can do that. You know, when I went to college, there was something called the AIAW, I think, and it was an athletic association that women played under. There was no NCAA for women and the administration of that was horrible, frankly. Now, you know, it's a big revenue generator and part of the reason why is because something here under the $348 million worth of waivers that the institutions give out is something called gender equity and intercollegiate athletics, 663 people $4 million, out-of- state students, foreign students, faculty administrators $11 million, civil service $4.4 million in waivers, athletic scholarships where people, you know, get tuition for school but make multi hundred millions of dollars to the institution. You only pay $10 million for that. Research assistants, teaching assistants, almost 20 thousand waivers for $225 million every year. Retired university employees, children of deceased employees, student employ… that all come under waivers, Ladies and Gentlemen. So, again, you know, this is a Body that legislates on the basis of fact, not on the basis of anecdote or some independent organization that claims to be good government and we have to make these decisions based on common sense. Finally, let me just say this. We are eminently qualified to give out scho… how in the world can we use that argument, which is really a shibboleth and we 09700114.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 all sit on Appropriations Committees for higher education and elementary education. So, how can we sit on those committees and then turn around and say that we're not qualified to give out a scholarship. I mean, that’s getting a little ridiculous. If you're against the scholarships, fine, but please have a reason a little less flimsy than some of the reasons that, you know, have come out today and that have come out during this entire debate. Thank you."

"Representative Monique Davis, your name was used in debate. Three minutes, Monique." Davis, M: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. You know, in the State of Illinois, the University of Illinois recently gave… they bought out the contracts of three athletic individuals to the tune of $7.5 million. The University of Illinois didn’t want to keep certain employees whose terms would have been up within two years but they chose to give them $7.5-plus million. In the State of Illinois we need educated people. If a fireman who earns a good salary puts three children in college, he deserves or they deserve a scholarship. If a police officer who's on disability, who's been injured, his child deserves a scholarship. Educated people at an added… make an added value in the State of Illinois because industry wants… will want to come here and people will want to work here and work with those educated people. In my heart I could never pass any Bill that would eliminate opportunity for education. We have two Governors serving time for corruption. We have not eliminated the Governor's Office. We could eliminate it and say there's too much corruption, we're just going to have a Lieutenant 09700114.doc 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Governor, but we haven't done that. It is very strange to me that we would pick what supports our children, what supports the children, we would take away from them because a few people have misused their opportunity. I urge a big fat 'no' vote."

"Representative Crespo to close."

"Well, you know, it's funny, all of the Bills before mine, we were done in 30 seconds. I'm not sure what happened with this one. You know, a couple of points I'd like to make. We talk about wanting to help students in our districts. The most you can help with this program are 8 and for anyone to suggest that that's all you have in your district is absurd. We have a lot more than that. This program does not take care of that problem. There are MAP grants out there. There's a process to determine needs. It's called FAFSA, through the Federal Government and that's what universities and colleges use. Now, you know, it… I was born in this state, I'm proud of this state, it really burns me when I hear these reporters say we have perhaps the most corrupt city in the country and one of the most corrupt states. People look at this and it's beginning to look more and more like a program that is very easy to… to maneuver to help those that you like. I've been talking about the unfunded mandate, I've been talking about others subsidizing their program, some of you have talked about some of the abuses and some have even attempted, attempted, to defend some of those in saying, hey, that was an honest mistake. But Ladies and Gentlemen, let me be clear. According to BGA, Better Government Association, according 09700114.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 to some of the reports out there a 2009 AP report of the General Assembly scholarships tuition waivers, found that between 2004 and 2009 at least 41 scholarships went to relatives of someone who gave money to a lawmaker. And by the way, as I talked to the reporters, they told me, Fred, that was like pulling teeth. It's so hard to get this information. There's only one requirement by the way and that is that the student should live in your district. Well, according to some of the press that we've read recently, we're seeing that more and more state Reps have given these tuition waivers to folks that live outside the district. We need to stop this. People are watching us very closely. Let me be very clear. We have worked the Senate, this House passed this Bill at least once since I've been here, and I trust and I hope that we do it again. We cannot let the Senate just not call the Bill. I've worked with Senator Frerichs, he's going to run the Bill in the Senate. We have the votes to pass it in the Senate. I'll ask those folks in the press box to please put that pressure on the Senate and let it happen. You're going to vote 'yes' or 'no' but let me tell you, in my mind my opinion, a 'no' vote means that you're enabling unethical behavior. A 'no' vote means that you're contributing to tuition hikes. So, it's up to you. Thank you for your time and thank you for those that supported the Bill."

"Question is, 'Should House Bill 3810 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Chapa LaVia, 09700114.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Feigenholtz, Nekritz, Bob Rita. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 79 Members voting 'yes', 25 Members voting 'no', 2 Members voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, what's the status on House Bill 5922, on page 18 of the Calendar?"

"Hold that Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Connelly, on page 10 of the Calendar, on the Order of Second Reading, you have House bill 4926. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Speaker, what's the status on House Bill 5513?"

"On request of the Sponsor, Representative Cole asked to have that put on the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, what's the status on House Bill 4601, Representative Currie's Bill, on page 8 of the Calendar?"

"Mr. Clerk, put that Bill on the Order of Third Reading. Representative D'Amico, on the Order of Third Readings, you have, on page 22 of the Calendar, House Bill 5056. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative John D'Amico."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5056 is an initiative of Secretary Jesse White. We've all read about the abuses of people going around and parking with these illegal handicap placards in their car. And what this Bill does is it raises the fines and gives the Secretary of State the ability to go after these people. So, I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Representative Roger Eddy."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes, it does."

"I'm talking about a handicap placard or handicap plates. And somebody that's using it falsely, it's going to be a Class A misdemeanor with a mandatory $2500 fine."

"Yes." 09700114.doc 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"What do you mean transporting someone?"

"Well, yes, that's using it under false pretense."

"Yes."

"$750 and that's going to be increased to a thousand."

"No, I'm sorry, I misspoke. The… the first time right now is 500. It's going to go from… to 750 and then to 1000."

"If you're using a deceased placard, somebody that is deceased…"

"…then it becomes a revocation and a… "

"…$2500 fine."

"Yes." 09700114.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"I do not… I do not believe so."

"And they keep… they keep going up."

"Representative Mike Bost."

"Sponsor yields."

"It's a $500 ticket."

"Yes. I mean, it's… once again, it's one of these issues where its like we really have to get serious about it. I mean, we want to stop it. There's been a number of reports and abuses going on throughout the state and we feel that this is one of the ways to do it."

"I do not have that information, no." 09700114.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Well, you know, I mean, I think the same exact way, but I also wouldn’t go out with somebody's handicap placard and park my car either."

"Yes, technically, you would."

"I'm sure you can argue it in court and try and plead your case, but I… I mean, I would assume and I mean, I put myself in that situation. I don’t think I'd be putting a handicap placard up in my car and parking it."

"Thank you."

"Representative D'Amico to close."

"I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Should House Bill 5056 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 09700114.doc 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Barickman, Monique Davis, Will Davis, Rosemary Mulligan, like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 89 Members voting 'yes', 16 Members voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Monique Davis, on the Order of Second Readings, on page 11 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5182. Out of the record. Representative Will Davis, on the Order of Second Readings, on page 7 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4466. Will Davis on the floor? Out of the record. Representative DeLuca, on page 16 of the Calendar, Representative, you have House Bill 5646. Out of the record. Leader Cross, on the Order of Second Readings, you have 5549. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Evans on a point of personal privilege. Representative Evans, point of personal privilege."

"Representative, I was under the assumption you wanted a point of personal privilege. We're not on your Bill yet."

"Point of personal privilege or no? No, okay. Thank you, Representative. Representative Eddy we're 09700114.doc 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 working towards you, Representative Evans. We'll get to you shortly here. We have a guy by the name of Roger Eddy ahead of you. Mr. Eddy, you have House Bill 24… House Bill 5649 on the Order of Third Reading. Out of the record. Representative Chapin Rose, for what purpose do you seek recognition, Senator?"

"Please proceed."

"You don’t look as good as you usually do on there, Representative Rose."

"We noticed it."

"Neither does anybody else, maybe we're a little behind on our payment for that side of the chamber…"

"…but we're working on it. We're well aware of it. Thanks for bringing that to our attention, Representative Rose. Representative du Buclet, you have House Bill 5587. Representative du Buclet. The Lady in the chamber? Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, what's the status on House Bill 5592, on page 15 of the Calendar?"

"Third Reading. Representative Mary Flowers, on page 2 of the Calendar, on House Bills-Second Reading, you have House Bill 1473. Out of the record. Representative Golar, on page 9 of the Calendar, on House Bills-Second Reading, you have House Bill 4682. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Hernandez, on the Order Third Readings, on page 19 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3915. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lisa Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 3915 amends the Illinois Human Rights Act to replace the word 'handicap' with 'disability', when referencing a physical or mental handicap. It makes correlating changes in Sections mentioning human rights issues in the Home Inspector License Act and the Real Estate Appraisers Licensing Act of 2002. All the Bill is really doing is changing current verbiage towards people with disabilities in a positive way. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House 09700114.doc 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Bill 3915 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Acevedo, du Buclet, Krezwick, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Connie Howard, on the Order of Third Readings, you have, on page 19 of the Calendar, House Bill 3914. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Connie Howard."

"Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3914 adds the forced transfer of funds at an electronic fund transfer terminal. Of course, that’s an ATM machine as a robbery offense to the Criminal Code and makes it a Class I Felony. I'll take questions at this time. Urge a 'yes' vote."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 3914 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Acevedo, Hernandez, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. 09700114.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Representative Jackson, on page 9 of the Calendar, on House Bills-Second Reading, Ed, you have House Bill 4695. Out of the record. Representative Evans, on page 21 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Third Readings, you have House Bill 4966. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Evans."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation on House Bill 4966. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of its passage… all those in favor of its passage signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Gordon, Representative Hernandez, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 09700114.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mike Fortner, on page 23 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5203. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Mike Fortner."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation on House Bill 5203. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of its passage signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… Representative Hatcher, like to be recorded? Take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having 09700114.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, what's the status on House Bill 1473?"

"Third Reading. Representative Robyn Gabel, on the Order of Third Readings, on page 22 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5013. Out of the record. Representative Jakobsson, on page 13 of the Calendar, on the Order of Second Reading, you have House Bill 5332. Out of the record. Representative Krezwick, on page 12 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5212. Representative Mathias, would like to tell Representative Krezwick… Would you like to move House Bill 53… 5212 to Third Reading? 5212, it's on Second Reading. You want to move it to Third? Out of the record. Representative Chuck Jefferson, Leader Jefferson, on page 13 of the Calendar, on the Order of Second Reading, you have House Bill 5337, Chuck. Out of the record. Representative David Harris, before you leave the chamber, on the Order of Second Reading, David, you have House Bill 3844. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Kay Hatcher, on the Order of Third Reading, on page 22 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5115. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700114.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Representative Hatcher."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 5115 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Jim Durkin. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Member voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Dwight Kay, on page 5 of the Calendar, under Second Reading of House Bills, you have House Bill 3985. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Don Moffitt, on the Order of Second Reading, Sir, you have, on page 9 of the Calendar, House Bill 4757. Out of the record. Representative Tom Morrison, on page 9 of the Calendar, Representative, you have House Bill 4850. Representative Morrison. House Bill 4850 on Second Reading. Would you like to move it to Third? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk. Take that 09700114.doc 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Bill out of the record. Representative Osmond, on page 24 of the Calendar, Leader, you have House Bill 5485. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Leader JoAnn Osmond."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation on House Bill 5485. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Frank Mautino, on page 21 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Third Reading, you have House Bill 4962. Leader Mautino, Frank, 4962? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Leader Frank Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. 4962 is an initiative of the clerks and recorders, 09700114.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 and it is a cleanup for their statute. It moves a fee from the bottom of the Section up to the top. It does not change or increase it, and that’s basically what it does. So, it's a cleanup Bill requested by the clerks and says that in matters of redistricting, the districts would have to be substantially equal in size. Be happy to answer any questions."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any questions? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 4962 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mike Fortner, David Leitch, Dennis Reboletti, like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Karen May, on page 21 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Third Readings, you have House Bill 4606. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, what's the status on House Bill… on page 7 of the Calendar, 4466?"

"Third Reading. Representative Sandy Pihos, on page 27 of the Calendar, on your priorities sheet, you have House Bill 3474. Out of the record. Representative Raymond Poe, on page 9 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Second 09700114.doc 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Readings, you have House Bill 4748. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Emily McAsey, on page 9 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Second Reading, you have House Bill 4665. Out of the record. Representative Deb Mell, on page 7 of the Calendar, under House Bills- Second Readings, you have House Bill 4498. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Lyons: "Third Reading. Representative Pritchard, according to your priority list, on page 26 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5221. Out of the record. Representative David Reis, on the Order of Third Readings, on page 20 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4445. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative David Reis."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 4445 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Bost, Monique Davis, like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Elaine Nekritz, on the Order of Third Readings, on page 19 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3944. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3944 has to do with the eavesdropping laws in Illinois. And I think we would all agree that laws have to be fair and to the greatest extent possible reflect the values and experiences of the citizen… citizens they seek to govern. And I don’t think that our current eavesdropping Bill… law is doing that. It is not reflecting the common practices and experiences of our citizens and House Bill 3944 is a very narrow exception designed to deal with a very specific 09700114.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 concern. It will allow citizens to make an audio recording of police officers who are performing their public duty on public property. Right now such action is a Class I Felony which has a 15-year penalty. And citizens are, unfortunately, being charged under this current law for doing nothing more than what we all do every day which is to take out our cell phone, open up the camera and start recording. There have been some very high profile prosecutions that have caught the attention of the public, and in fact, two courts in Illinois have found in that circumstance that the law is unconstitutional. But I think while those… there are other prosecutions pending, it is time for this House to act and correct that very narrow problem. It's also of great concern given the fact that the NATO summit is coming to Chicago in May. There will be thousands of journalists and attendees who are… could be at great risk of prosecution as well. But let me just… a few details on the Bill. The Bill models the definition of public place off of the Illinois Child Curfew Act. It allows recordings in places that are outside a point of restricted access. So, for example, a police station lobby would be considered public, an interrogation room would not. Courtrooms may be considered public places, but they are unique from other pla… other public spaces in that the judiciary has exclusive authority to regulate actions within its courtrooms. Judges would still be able to determine whether recording is permitted or not in their courtroom. Finally, every attempt to change the Illinois eavesdropping law brings on the discussion of whether 09700114.doc 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Illinois should adopt a one-party consent standard. Illinois is by no means alone in requiring all parties to a conversation to consent to recording. Ten other states currently utilize all-party consent on which our current law is based. There are other Bills pending before the General Assembly to adopt that standard, but this Bill is not about that question, this Bill is about the very specific prosecutions that are occurring and trying to make sure that citizens who are engaging in fairly innocent activity and who are, in fact, exercising their First Amendment rights are not subject to prosecution."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Mike Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, we had really, really good discussion about this Bill in committee. It was substantive, it was thoughtful and I appreciate everything you're trying to do, one quick question. There are some concerns brought up about the definition of 'public place' and consistency throughout the statute. And I don’t know if I recall correctly if we had said we would address that or if we were just going to stick with what was originally in the Bill?"

"I think, Representative, what the discussion was that… that we would look at it and see if it could be addressed. And I think that we're pretty comfortable that given the fact that this is based on already existing law 09700114.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 in the Child Curfew Act that and it may not be… it may not be perfect because actually some of the prosecutions that have occurred under this eavesdrop… under the current eavesdropping law would not be protected under the law that we would be adopting here, but we're pretty comfortable that it is… it's about as good as we can get."

"Okay, thank you, Representative."

"Thank you." Zalewski: To the Bill. And I commend the Sponsor, she's given some thoughtful answers to the questions that were presented in committee. From a law enforcement perspective, I'm sure you'll hear about it from some other speakers, but there's just some general and specific concerns that allowing this type of practice without a thoughtful rewrite of the entire eavesdropping statute, especially in light of the… of the concerns that are coming with the NATO conferences in the summer, that this might not be the best approach at this specific time. So, while I respect the Sponsor, I think she has the best of intentions, I urge a 'no' vote at this time."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"No."

"Because, Representative… one of the arguments we heard was that… in regard to that is that we need to create 09700114.doc 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 a level playing field, and there is no level playing field right now. The police have an opportunity to just take away my liberty. They have powers that ordinary citizens don’t have. Police are not being prosecuted under this current law and so this is an attempt to actually create a level playing field for citizens."

"Because Representative, again, it's not a level playing field. The police can use that recording to take away my liberty. I can't do that with them. So, it's not a level playing field to start with and this is… this is simply trying to take away… this is simply trying to protect the First Amendment rights of those citizens who are recording something when the police have no expectation of privacy when they're on public property."

"Representative, because… I… the… the private citizen has an expectation of privacy. I don’t think that public servant, certainly I don’t have… when I'm performing my public duties as a Representative, I don’t have an 09700114.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 expectation that my… the statements I make are going to be private."

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Reboletti, your time has expired. I'll give you another minute to finish your thoughts, Dennis."

"Representative Dwight Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's correct. It would have to be a public place."

"And not only do I feel that way, Representative, but there have been courts in Illinois and Massachusetts and not just Cook County courts that have held that."

"That’s correct."

"…and I think you spoke very eloquently to that in committee."

"Yes, Representative, in the case… it’s the case involving Drew… Chris Drew in Cook County that was most recently decided that actually held the case on the law unconstitutional. It… that would, I think, be a little broader than what we're trying to do in this Bill, but… but it would… but this Bill would speak specifically to the situation in the Chris Drew case."

"Representative Durkin."

"Sponsor yields."

"You know, Representative, I don’t know an exact number who've gone to trial. There have been two cases, one from Crawford County and one from Cook County, where there have been prosecution and the trail court judge in those held the law to be unconstitutional."

"Not being a prosecutor, I believe the answer is yes."

"Okay."

"Okay."

"Representative Jim Sacia."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I would agree with that with regard to the fact that that tape is to be used as evidence."

"Well, Representative, I think that risk exists today actually, because there's nothing illegal about video taping a police officer today and so that risk… that risk is there whether or not this Bill would pass."

"And Representative, if I could just respond. I think that that, you know, the difference… again… the difference between law enforcement's ability to use those… those tapes and a citizen's ability to use those tapes, is that law enforcement must use those… is planning on using those tapes in a court of law to take away someone's liberty, to have a significant impact. This would be something that could appear, I mean, it might be embarrassing on YouTube, 09700114.doc 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 but it wouldn’t… but it doesn’t have the same weight that the citizens that the citizen is, you know, that a court of law would have and if the citizen were going to use that in a court of law, they would still have to go through the same evidentiary proving up."

"Representative Sacia, I'm sorry. Concluded your remarks. Representative Jim Watson."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, I didn’t say they're out to do that. I said they have the power to do that."

"Well, Representative, I would say that given the nature of the prosecutions that have occurred under this eavesdropping law, that there need to be more checks and balances in that regard."

"No, no. And Representative, the reason I say that is because a lot of the argument has centered around whether we… whether or not we need to create a level playing field…"

"…and I just believe that… that, you know, that the powers that the police have, rightfully so, granted to them under the law are… are not a level playing field with the ordinary citizen to start with. That’s my only point."

"Representative Tryon."

"She awaits your questions."

"That… I believe is one of the current exemptions to the eavesdropping law."

"I don’t believe so."

Speaker Lyons: "Our two final speakers are going to be Representative Eddy and Representative Carli. Representative Roger Eddy."

"She awaits your questions, Sir." 09700114.doc 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"There's nothing…"

"…that makes it illegal to videotape right now."

"No. The legislation simply speaks to the ability of a citizen to record a police officer in a public place and… and I think that I would argue that a courtroom is not a public place and the judiciary still has the ability to control what goes on in the courtroom."

"That… I disa… you know… what… there will be courts that will interpret this legislation. I do not believe it does, Representative Eddy."

"It… it would simply allow, again, and whether… whether it's… whether the audio recording device is hidden or out in the open, it would allow a citizen to record a public officer performing public duties on public property. So, it wouldn’t distinguish between whether the device was hidden or out in the open."

"Correct."

"Well, if ignorance of law is no defense, then there is no… there is no prohibition against a police officer recording."

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Eddy, I'll give you another minute."

Speaker Lyons: "Our final speaker will be Representative Carli."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. As you know, I am an active member of the Chicago Police Department. I'm a Sergeant in the Chicago Police Department and I would strongly urge a 'no' vote on this. These officers go out there on a daily basis. It's not a level playing field when we go out there. We don’t know what we're going to encounter, what we're going to see, what we're going to do, if we're even going to come home. I think that having these citizens distracting these officers, even more than they can possibly be distracted in these situations that they're in, would be such a harm to these officers. They need to go 09700114.doc 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 out there and be able to do their job and not worry about anything else. These recordings could be manipulated. They could be put viral at any point in time making law enforcement look even worse than sometimes we possibly look. We go out there every day and all the good that we do gets overlooked by one possible shot on YouTube. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote… or 'no'… I'm sorry, a 'no' vote. Strongly urge a 'no' vote. I think it needs much more work when we need to consider the public versus private place on this. Also, again, law enforcement is already in harm's way every day and we need to protect our law enforcement officers that protect us. 'No' on this one."

"Representative Nekritz to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the debate on this. There… I think… I just want to clarify a couple of final points. That the courts have held and I think that… that we would… could all agree that a public official performing public duties on public property really has no expectation of privacy and that citizens who would engage in this kind of behavior are, in fact, exercising their protected First Amendment rights. And for those police officers that are doing what they're supposed to be doing, we're not… we're not ask… we're not allowing citizens to interfere with the performance of that duty. We are simply giving them the right to do, again, what is sort of commonplace today which is to take out your cell phone and when you see something happening and record that. This would also not allow someone to… if I'm… if a police officer is engaged in a… in a whispering or very close 09700114.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 conversation with someone, this would not allow them to record. It's only when it's audible to the human ear. So, boom mikes would not be allowed. I want to make sure that we… you know… know that someone with a hearing aid, you know, this doesn’t impact their ability to record but that officer has to be speaking at a level that's audible to someone else that’s standing nearby. You can't… this would not allow someone to run up and record a conversation that’s happening where they can't actually hear it and they'd have to interfere with the conversation to hear it. So, I think this does provide the protections. And these prosecutions are happening in a way that puts… that is threatening to citizens and is threatening, you know, and they're being used as a sword not as a shield. And so, I think that this is an appropriate response to the prosecutions that are happening. And I would urge your 'yes' vote."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. All those in favor of the passage of House Bill 3944 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Gaffney, Golar, Gordon, Jefferson, like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk… Representative Gordon. Take the record. On this Bill, there are 45 Members voting 'yes', 59 Members voting 'no', 1 Member voting 'present'. And the Bill fails. Representative Mussman, on the Order of Second Readings, on page 5 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3986. Do you want to move that to Third? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700114.doc 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Third Reading. Representative Connie Howard, I believe you have a point of personal privilege. Representative Howard."

"Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Part of my district in Chicago includes the Roseland community and today we have with us a group from the Neighborhood Recovery Initiative. They're part of the CAPS program. Please help me to welcome them to Springfield."

"Welcome to your Capitol, Roseland. Proud to have you down here, enjoy your day. Representative Sullivan, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Ed."

Speaker Lyons: "Thanks for that reminder, Representative Sullivan, regarding the caucus. Looking forward to this 09700114.doc 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 evening. Representative Phelps, for what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Purpose of an announcement Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed, Brandon."

"First off, on behalf of the people of Harrisburg, Representative Sullivan and the rest of the Sullivan Caucus, thank you so much for your generosity and thinking of the victims back in Harrisburg. We really appreciate that, but also for an announcement. As chairman of the Illinois Sportsman's Caucus, I want to invite all the Members and everybody that is listening to the annual Illinois Sportsman's Caucus auction which is March 28, at the State House Inn, 6:00, auction's at 7. Also to all the Members of the Sportsman's Caucus, we're asking you to bring a donated item for the auction and you can bring it to my office or bring it that night, but all the proceeds are going to fund and help the Conservation Foundation. Thank you."

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Phelps, while I have your undivided attention, on the Order of Second Readings, on page 8 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4573. Would you like to move that Bill to Third Reading, Representative Phelps? Brandon, you've got a Bill on Second, want to move it to Third? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Al Riley, on the Oder of Third Readings, on page 20 of the Calendar, you 09700114.doc 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 have House Bill 4562. Representative Riley, Al, 4562. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. 4562 is an initiative of the Illinois Association of Park Districts. It essentially allows a park district board to appoint an assistant secretary and an assistant treasurer in cases where the regular treasurer or secretary are otherwise ill or incapacitated and cannot carry the duties of those particular offices. Doing so is sort of similar to authority that the forest preserves have under the Downstate Forest Preserve Act and the Cook County Forest Preserve Act. And it's a good Bill and I request 'aye' votes."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 4562 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted on this? Deb Mell. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chapin Rose. Representative Rose, you have, on the Order of Third Readings, on page 25 of the Calendar, House Bill 5913. Out of the record. Representative Senger, on page 8 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Second Readings you have House bill 4642. Out 09700114.doc 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 of the record. Mr. Clerk, what's… on page 9 of the Calendar, Representative Rita has House Bill 4674. What's the status on that Bill, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Sente, you have Senate… on House… on page 22 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5021, 5021. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Sente."

"House Bill 5121 is fixing an issue and returning language the way it was. It was inadvertently changed. This allows the police departments to use DUI funds for anything related to the prevention and safety of… or prevention and… and stopping DUIs. These funds can be used by the police departments for all the items listed. The Secretary of State is in agreement with this Bill. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"You've heard the Lady's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 5021 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Kelly Burke, Bob Rita. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 106 Members voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 09700114.doc 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 hereby declared passed. Leader Tim Schmitz, on page 14 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Second Readings, Tim, you have House Bill 5548. Representative Schmitz, up here, Tim, Second Reading, House Bill 5548. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Sid Mathias, on page 11 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Second Reading, you have House Bill 5180. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Mathias on Floor Amendment #2."

"All those in favor of the Gentleman's Amendment signify by saying 'yes'; those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And Floor Amendment #2 is adopted. Anything further Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Sommer, on page 22 of the Calendar, under House Bills-Third Reading, you have House Bill 5062. Out of the record. Representative Art Tuner, on the Order of Third Readings, on page 23 of the 09700114.doc 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Calendar, you have House Bill 5289, Art. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5289 does three things. It's an initiative of the Attorney General's Office. It creates a new crime of sales tax evasion, alters existing penalties for the offenses of failure to file a sales and use tax return and fraudulent filing of a sales and use tax return, and three) it extends the statute of limitations for sales and tax crimes from three to five years. Sales tax evasion would be when a person knowingly attempts in any manner to evade or defeat the tax imposed on him or any other person or payment thereof and he commits an affirmative act in the furtherance of the evasion. It will be a Class IV Felony for amounts less than 300, a Class III Felony for amounts between 300 to 9,999, Class II for amounts above 10 thousand, and a non- probational Class I Felony for amounts over $100 thousand. It extends the statute of limitations for sales tax related crimes from three to five years. I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote from the Assembly. Thank you."

"Representative Eddy."

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"It's our acting parliamentarian, yes, Sir."

"A question? Thank you, Representative."

"Do you have a question of the lead Sponsor on the Bill?"

Speaker Lyons: "Representative Turner awaits for your questions."

"And the… the parliamentarian is here in case you need to ask him."

"What's the question, Representative Eddy?"

"I'm not sure if it addresses Internet sales."

"It's a staggered penalty. If it's covered by the sales tax, then it would be a violation, but if not, no."

"If it's a knowingly… a knowing evasion of the sales tax, then, yes, you're in violation."

"So, the Bill speaks to the mental state of the person committing the tax evasion and under your… your example, it would have to be that they were already charged with the tax evasion and the knowing mental state was there so."

"Representative Zalewski."

"To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. To the previous speaker's question, I think the offense would have to be charged by a 09700114.doc 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 law enforcement agency and then there'd have to be a… there'd have to be a finding of fact that in the hypothetical the previous speaker described, you know, it's hard to say we're speaking of an incidence where someone on the Internet simply didn’t know that the sales tax was due and they… and they failed to pay it. Under… under that scenario, they'd have to be charged with the offense. There'd have to be a finding of fact that they were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. So, I don’t necessarily know that under this Bill we'll be scooping up all these innocent actors that are simply failing to pay a sales tax. I think what the Bill attempts to do is go after these serial offenders that aren’t paying the sales tax that is due."

"Representative David Reis."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Turner?"

"I'm sorry. I didn’t hear the question."

"The Bill… it's an initiative of the Attorney General's Office. And it's… the intent behind it is to go after retailers who knowingly and intentionly evade paying taxes on retail that they are selling, inventory, things like that."

"So, it's not for the person who's necessarily shopping on the Internet or buying a pair of shoes, but instead…"

"No, no."

"The Bill is for those who are knowingly attempting to evade sales tax. So, if you buy a pack of cigarettes across state lines and bring it back it wouldn’t apply to you, necessarily."

"Yes."

"Representative Turner." 09700114.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"We'll pull the Bill from the record and bring it back. Thank you."

"Mr. Clerk, take the Bill out of the record on request of the Sponsor. Leader Jim Durkin."

Speaker Lyons: "Welcome to your Capitol. Enjoy the day. Representative Mike Tryon, on page 24 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5642. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Mike Tryon."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Jim Sacia."

"Sponsor yields."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the noise level on the floor makes it hard to have a discussion. Can I ask you, please, to lower your conversations. Shhh. Thank you."

"Representative Moffitt."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Karen May."

"Yes. I would just like to stand from this side of the aisle to salute the Sponsor for the work on this. He truly has been a leader. He understands clean water issues. So, we brought his expertise and hard work getting everyone together. I think I learned a few years back that anytime you touch NPDE… the NPDES that it can be ballistic, totally ballistic. But this is a Bill that brings together protection of clean water and yet understanding the concerns and the ramifications in our feeding operations. 09700114.doc 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 So, it truly is a bipartisan Bill. It's Representative Tryon working together to find a solution that meets all the needs of our diverse state. So, thank you for your work on this."

"Representative Tryon moves for the passage of House Bill 5642. All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Reboletti, Rita, Watson, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk… Rita. Take the record. On this Bill, there are 91 Members voting 'yes', 14 Members voting 'no', 1 Member voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Representative Sacia has, on the Order of Second Readings, House Bill 4940. What's the status on that Bill, Mr. Clerk?"

"Third Reading. Representative Camille Lilly, point of personal privilege."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, point of personal privilege. I would like to recognize the leaders of the west side of Chicago, our young leaders, fathers who care, West Side Garfield Park Safety Net Children Youth Leadership Council. Can we give them a warm, round welcome." 09700114.doc 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

Speaker Lyons: "Garfield Park, glad to have you at your Capitol, enjoy your day. Representative Mike Unes, on page 21 of the Calendar, under Bills-Third Reading, you have House Bill 4901. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Unes."

Speaker Lyons: "You've heard the Gentleman's explanation regarding House Bill 4901. Are there any questions? Seeing none, the question is, 'Should House Bill 4901 pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Monique Davis, Emily McAsey, Pat Verschoore, Eddie Jackson. Representative Penny, would you like to be recorded? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there's 96 Members voting 'yes', 7 Members voting 'no', 1 Member voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Pat Verschoore, on the Order of Third Readings, on page 22 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5151. Representative Verschoore, House Bill 5151. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700114.doc 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"The Gentleman from Rock Island, Representative Pat Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. What this does is there's already a limit on how far away a gun range can be for a sound nuisance and what this Bill does is just increases that distance from 500 yards up to a thousand yards as far as a nuisance. So, I don’t think there's any… the only opposition I have is the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence. So, the National Rifle Association, the Illinois State Rifle Association, the Department of Natural Resources is in agreement with this Bill. So, I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"You've heard the Gentleman's explanation. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the passage of House Bill 5151 signify by voting 'yes'; those opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brauer, Barickman. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this Bill, there are 98 Members voting 'yes', 7 Members voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Ann Williams, on the Order of Second Readings, on page 10 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 5008. Out of the record. Representative Mike Zalewski, on the Order of Second Readings, on page 7 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 4526. 4526, Mike. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk." 09700114.doc 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Third Reading. Representative Kelly Cassidy, on page 11 of the Calendar, under Bills-Second Reading, you have House Bill 5114. Representative Cassidy. Cassidy, you want to move that Bill? Out of the record. Representative Ken Dunkin, on the Order of Second Readings, on page 4 of the Calendar, you have House Bill 3867. Do you want to move that Bill to Third Reading, Representative? Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Camille Lilly, on the Order of Second Reading-House Bills, you have, on page 8 of the Calendar, House Bill 4615. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Leader Lou Lang in the Chair."

"House Bill 2912, Representative Acevedo. Please read the Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 5852, Representative Arroyo. Please read the Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 5121, Representative Beiser. Please read the Bill." 09700114.doc 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Mr. Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 5121 is an initiative of our State's Attorneys Office and myself as a result of a situation in Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville where a student was convicted of attempted terrorism which, if it would've panned out, would have been horrific in the consequences in death and injury that it would have caused. Currently, the way he was charged and the way the law states, he will only have to serve… he could get off in half of his time for good behavior. And what this Bill does it says that he has to serve or that person or anybody in subsequently would have to serve at least 85 percent of their sentence. I'd ask for your 'aye' vote. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves, Members. Representative Kay, Lyons. Mr. Reis. Mr. Lyons, Mr. Reis. Please take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, returning to House Bill 5852, Mr. Arroyo. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5315, Mr. Barickman. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4707, Representative Berrios. Representative Berrios. Out of the record. House Bill 4043, Mr. Bradley. Read the Bill, please."

"Mr. Bradley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This would allow a couple of school districts to consolidate. The consolidation would not take effect unless they were able to get a school construction. It does not move them up the list in front of any other schools. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Bradley moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, record yourselves, please. Have all voted who wish? Representative Cole, Davis, Durkin. Representative Will Davis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5236, Mr. Bost. Please read the Bill." 09700114.doc 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

Speaker Lang: "Third Reading. House Bill 5114, Dan Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Burke." Burke, D.: "Thank you Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Very simply, Floor Amendment #2 would provide that this video that would offer training in the use of AEDs and CPR would be provided at no charge to all public schools in our state. This was a initiative that Representative Eddy had recommended when we were debating the issue in committee and we have accommodated his concern with this Amendment. And I would ask for the Body's favorable consideration."

Speaker Lang: "Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5342, Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4148, Representative Cassidy. Returning to House Bill 5342, Representative Kelly Burke." Burke, K: "Could it go back to Second Reading… my mistake?"

"Let's hold this Bill on the Order of Second Reading at the request of the Sponsor, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 4148, Representative Cassidy. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4991, Leader Cross. Is this Bill ready to go for Leader Cross? Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4029, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5565, Representative Costello. Please read the Bill." 09700114.doc 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. House Bill 5565 removes a municipality's authority to impose greater firearms regist… restrictions than those authorized under State Law. It gives the state the exclusive authority to regulate firearms in the State of Illinois. And I will accept any questions. Thank you."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes the Majority Leader, Representative Currie."

"I have a question for the Chair. What would the vote requirement for passage of House Bill 5565? And while you're taking that question under advisement, I'd like to speak to the Bill, if I might. It's proper to do that…"

"Leader Currie, and we will get you an answer to your question."

"Pardon me?"

"We'll get you an answer to your question…

"Okay. Thank…"

"…and please proceed to debate."

"Yeah. Yeah, I… I strongly object to this Bill. I live in a city that does have some gun control restrictions and it does so because we are privy to far too much violence on our streets. Barely a day goes by that you don’t see another drive-by shooting another child, a six-year-old most recently dead because gun violence is a major public health problem. The idea that Chicago and some other 09700114.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 communities where there is evidence of street violence, gun violence, should be unable to do anything to protect the safety of our children strikes me as unconscionable. Maybe, in the area that the Sponsor represents, gun violence is not an issue. Although my guess is that it is an issue everywhere, but there's no question it's a major issue in our big cities and it would be, I think, morally improper for this Legislature to say no, we're not going to let you, the citizens of Chicago, protect your own. I strongly urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Representative yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Representative, is this the same Bill that Representative Rosenthal carried last year?"

"Mr. Costello."

"I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker, I missed the question."

"I'm wondering if this is the same Bill that Representative Rosenthal carried last year? Just curious."

"It was a Representative Bost Bill last year, I believe."

"Okay. Well, I just want to… to the Bill. I just want to echo the sentiments of the Majority Leader in saying we have to keep in mind what we're dealing with in terms of a vast disparity in the type of districts that we represent. I think I brought this up last Session in debate. It would take me about three hours probably to walk across my Legislative District from end to end and I'm guessing 09700114.doc 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Representative Costello's district takes quite a bit longer to walk across. Just the point being that there's a great deal of difference in terms of density and I think we really need to keep that in mind when we are attempting to limit the ability of a municipality to make the best decisions for its residents based on things like density, population, et cetera. I would urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I echo the concerns of the previous two speakers, my colleague from Chicago that the City of Chicago should be allowed to enforce its own more restrictive gun control ordinances, if we so choose. There will be several thousand of us from various faith communities on April 2 making a holy week procession from St. James Cathedral to old St. Pat's Church and through a number of houses of worship remembering 600 children who have been killed by violence in the City of Chicago, and I would like to be sure that we can tell the families of those children that at least for the City of Chicago we're allowing our municipal entity to do what it believes is right to protect other children. I would ask for a 'no' vote."

Speaker Lang: "Sponsor wishes to remove the Bill from the record. Is that correct, Sir? Bill goes out of the record. House Bill 5899, Mr. Fortner. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5250, Mr. Cunningham. Out of the record. House Bill 5321, Representative Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5101, Mr. D'Amico. Mr. D'Amico, 5101. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. D'Amico."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 5101 is part of a federal initiative which is basically banning handheld cell phones while driving a commercial vehicle. Part of the federal guidelines, we have three years to adopt this. Every state across the nation. The truckers are in full support. There's no opposition to the Bill. I'll take any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Mitchell, Mr. Watson. Please, take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5193, Representative Will Davis. Mr. Davis. Out of the 09700114.doc 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 record. House Bill 4670, Representative Hammond. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hammond."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk… Is there a problem with the board? With the leave of the Body, we will dump the Roll Call, Mr. Clerk. The board is frozen, bear with us a moment. Members, we're going to do the Roll Call on this Bill, House Bill 4670, again. We're obviously dumping that one for technical reasons. The Representative Hammond has closed. Those in favor of the Bill shall vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 29 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Next Bill is House Bill 4018, Mr. DeLuca. Out of the record. House Bill 5459, Representative du Buclet. Out of the record. House Bill 4985, 09700114.doc 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Representative Feigenholtz. Out of the record. House Bill 5630, Representative Hatcher. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hatcher."

"The Lady has moved for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Carli, Harris, Mussman. Representative Harris, Representative Mussman. Please take the record. On this question, 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 174, Representative Flowers. 174. Out of the record. House Bill 4968, Representative Gabel. Representative Gabel. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill says the hospitals must adopt an infant feeding policy that promotes breastfeeding. This Bill was worked out with the Hospital Association. And I think it's a great Bill that will help promote breastfeeding among our new mothers. I ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you." 09700114.doc 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"The Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5450, Representative Golar. Representative Golar. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1384, Representative Gordon. Representative Gordon. Out of the record. House Bill 4531, Representative Hernandez. Out of the record. House Bill 5789, Representative Osmond. Out of the record. House Bill 4563, Representative Howard. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Howard."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4563 would make applicable changes within the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act as it relates to facilities licensed under the ID/DD Community Care Act. You perhaps know that over the past 20 years, community-based intermediate care facilities for the department… for the developmentally disabled and long-term care for under age 22 were licensed under the Nursing Home Care Act and that it was believed was really not appropriate. Now, this 09700114.doc 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 legislation would… let's see what… what does this legislation do? No… it would… no permit or exemption would be required from the Illinois Health Facilities and Services Review Board prior to the reduction of the number of beds. A facilities license under this Act would notify HFSRB and the Department of Human Services in writing within 30 days if there is intent to reduce the number of beds or close the facility. Annual reports for facilities licensed under this Act would be specific to those licensed under the ID/DD Community Care Act, and there are a number of other specifics that I can answer questions about. This legislation was agreed to by the Center for Developmental Disabilities Advocacy and Community Supports, DHS and the SEIU said they were going to be neutral. There are no implications on any facility that is maintained by the state. I ask for your 'yes' votes."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4492, Mr. Poe. Mr. Poe. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Poe."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. And on that question, the Chair recognizes Representative May."

"Yes, thank you. Inquiry of the Chair. I had filed an Amendment asking to have the Stewart Tartan to be considered and it's not on my screen. Has that been considered? Is that out of Rules? My tennis partner used to be a Stewart and there are a lot of Stewarts in my district, so, with all due respect to the St. Andrew Society, I wonder why we're picking the St. Andrew Tartan, instead of the Stewart Tatan… Tartan or the Black Watch or any of the other of the famous tartans?"

Speaker Lang: "Mr. Clerk, do you have an answer to the Representative's inquiry?"

"That's your answer."

"Okay. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Yes. Could you answer my question why you picked the St. Andrew Society versus the Stewart Tartan or the Black Watch Tartan or any of the other tartans?"

"Okay. Well, I just happen to be partial to the Stewart Tartan because there are a lot of Stewarts in my district and I think that we have a history in this state of sometimes putting the question of the state toy, you know, the state snack or whatever we've debated over the years I've been down here, putting it to the school children to decide. So, I would just hate to weigh in on the St. Andrew's Tartan versus any other tartan without checking with the school children also. I just don’t… I guess, with all due respect, I don’t understand why we're voting on this. Thank you."

"Mr. Ramey."

"Mr. Poe to close."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is 09700114.doc 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harris, Howard, May, Mell, Nekritz. Please record yourselves, Members. Please take the record. On this question, there are 99 voting 'yes', and 5 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3940, Representative Jakobsson. Out of the record. House Bill 2886, Mr. Jefferson. Out of the record. House Bill 5632, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5624, Representative May. Out of the record. House Bill 5207, Mr. Reis. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Reis."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis, Howard. Will Davis. Please take the record. On this question, 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional 09700114.doc 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012 Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4638, Representative McAsey. Representative McAsey. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5178, Representative Mell. Please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "Third Reading. House Bill 5145, Mr. Sacia. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Howard. Please take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting' yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5440, Representative Mussman. Representative Mussman. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4464, Representative Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. Out of the record. House Bill 5814, Mr. Sosnowski. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5745, Mr. Phelps. Mr. Phelps. Out of the record. House Bill 5359, Mr. Rita. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5791, Representative Senger. Please read the Bill." 09700114.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 97th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day 3/21/2012

"Third Reading. House Bill 5193, Representative Will Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 5193 simply is an effort to ask the Department of Public Health to… to the extent they are able to do so provide information, education and resources toward making sure that the awareness surrounding Hepatitis C has been heightened. We found an Amendment that has also been adopted that will now include Hepatitis B in that conversation as well. Be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"Chair recognizes Mr. Reis."

"State your point."

Speaker Lang: "Members, an important announcement. Members, please pay attention. All Amendments need to be filed no later than Tuesday, March 27 at 4 p.m. I'm going to repeat that one more time. All amendments need to be filed by Tuesday, March 27 at 4 P.M., so that any Amendment might be heard by the Third Reading deadline next week. And now, allowing for perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House stand adjourned till Thursday, March 22 at the hour of 10 a.m. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted and the House is adjourned."