Illinois House Floor Debate — May 30, 2013

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor Stephen Epting who is with Hope Community Church in Chicago. Pastor Epting is the guest of Representative Lilly. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Epting."

Speaker Lang: "We'll be led in the Pledge today by Representative Mussman."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representative Scherer is excused today."

"Mr. Bost."

"Chair recognizes Representative Manley."

"Good morning, Speaker. How are you?"

"Doing just fine." 09800067.doc 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"I rise on a point of personal privilege. With me I have two Pages…"

"Representative, bear with us. Sorry, I forgot to take the record. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 117 Members and we do have a quorum. Now, Representative Manley. I apologize."

"Thank you, Speaker. With me I have two honorary Pages for the day. We have Jessica Thomas and Lauryn Thomas over… they're standing, they're waving. And welcome them. Their grandmother is Valerie Thomas, she is an intern with SEIU Legislative… she's a Legislative Intern. They're from Bellville, Illinois. And they belong… their Representatives are Eddie Lee Jackson and Jay Hoffman. And we welcome them."

"Welcome to Springfield. Happy you're here. Mr. Demmer."

"Please proceed."

"Congratulations, Representative, to you and your family. Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." 09800067.doc 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"With me, I have my honorary Page for the day, Molly Harms. She's standing with me. She's joining us from here in Springfield. We welcome her to Springfield."

Speaker Lang: "Happy you're here, welcome to the House. Representative Bellock."

"Welcome aboard. Representative Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. I also have a Page with me today. Eddie Ricks from O'Fallon, Illinois, is here visiting with his… along with his mother, Jennifer Ford, in the gallery above the Republican side. Can we please welcome them. Thank you."

"Welcome to the House. Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you. As we've been blessed and prayed for today by Reverend Epting, he bring is congregational members with him today. We have Otto Singletary and Ernest Singletary to join Pastor Epting in blessing us this day."

"Welcome. We're glad you're here with us today. Representative Ives."

"Please proceed."

"Happy birthday. Mr. Bradley."

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"My oldest son, Jackson Edward Bradley, is here with us today on the floor. He's 12 years old and a student in 7th grade at Marion. So welcome Jackson here."

"Jackson, we're glad you're here with us today. Mr. Clerk."

"Members, can I have your attention. It's going to be a long day. There are a lot of Bills on the Calendar. Everyone in the chamber's got some Bills. If we keep the noise level down so that Mr. Reboletti isn't complaining too much about the noise, we can get through a lot of Bills. We can do this expeditiously and maybe get out of here earlier than we might have otherwise. So I'm asking for your attention. I'm asking you for your support. On page 3 of the Calendar, Senate Bills-Third Reading, Senate Bill 92, Mr. Sacia. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 09800067.doc 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, just for a point of clarity. This Bill endeavors to… to license people who are… explain the genesis of the Bill, please?"

"Oh, I… I can understand complex issues."

"Well, I'm going to support your Bill, Representative Sacia. But it's funny, you… you would agree though especially since at least on the analysis that you have some opposition, that from time to time we can have really good Bills that serve a purpose but we're going to have some opposition from time to time, wouldn't you say?"

"Thank you."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Sacia, what does this Bill do?"

"So, this Bill is important to you?"

"Is it worth you calling out like an auction of getting 118 votes right now? Could you do that real fast? Could you do a auctioneer and ask for 18… 118 votes right now?"

"You've got my vote."

"The Chair is speechless. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mayfield. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', sorry Mr. Sacia, with 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Members, effective with this Bill I'm going to enforce the Short Debate Rule and use the timer so that we can get through the Calendar as quickly as possible. The next Bill is Senate Bill 105, Mr. Phelps. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to withdraw Amendment #2."

"Mr. Phelps request that the Bill be placed back… So, Mr. Phelps, you… the Amendment's not on the Bill so you don't have to do anything with…"

"Okay."

"…the Amendment. Please proceed."

"Okay, great. Great. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill, Senate Bill 105, is an agreed Bill. It just makes a technical change as to how to AREs… deals with incorrect bills. I ask for its passage." 09800067.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Bill's on the Order of Short Debate, which means there will be one person in response. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost for 2 minutes."

"Gentleman yields."

"Absolutely. Absolutely."

"And I’m not dealing with that at all."

"Right."

"Thank you. Thank you, Representative."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Rita. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 115, Mr. Martwick. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill is, excuse me one second. Under current law the police departments are required to disseminate certain information to news media upon an arrest, including 09800067.doc 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 information about the arrest, information about the arrestee including a mug shot. Unfortunately, in… in Illinois, as also around the country, there have been certain news media outlets that have popped up like www.mugshots.com. These are websites that take the mug shot of the person who's been arrested, place them on the website, and then if a person is found not guilty or released, they must… these websites will not remove the mug shot without the person paying a fee for this. This law would make it illegal for these websites to solicit a fee to remove the… the mug shot of someone who has been acquitted or released from their crime. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. This Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. Mr. Zalewski, do you rise in… in… okay. So, Mr. Franks do you rise in response?"

"I don't know… I want to… I'm not sure what it does?"

"Mr. Franks for two minutes."

"I… this is the first I hear of the Bill and I understand why you're doing it. I'm wondering though, has this been vetted constitutionally? I'm… I'd be concerned about a First Amendment right of someone. Because this is… these… these photos… these mug shots, are they public domain or not?"

"They are public domain, yes."

"So, anyone can get them. So, I remember when… I remember when Speaker Delay was arrested in Washington and had that… or he was in Texas. They had that famous mug shot 09800067.doc 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 when he was smiling and that was pasted all over the world. So when someone's arrested there is a mug shot. And you're saying if it's public domain, would we be infringing on someone's First Amendment rights if we say that you can't use these for commercial gain?"

"Well, Representative Franks, I would say I'm not a constitutional expert."

"I think there's 47 of them over on that side."

"I… I… well, but what I would say is that they are still have the access to these mug shots. All we are doing is we're regulating their ability or we're removing their ability to charge a fee to remove them from their website."

"I… I don't think it's a bad idea, I'm just not sure it's legal. Because I'm just wondering if we do it for this 'cause I know that there are some governments that I think would make money on selling some of this information to marketers for instance. Or these marketing companies, for instance, if you get a… you buy a vehicle and they want to sell parts, they're going to go and find out who bought, you know a Mercury Mariner 2006. And say, okay, your… you know, your warranty's up or something. And there's… and they have this. I'm just wondering how we can treat one group of people for pecuniary gain differently than another group for pecuniary gain?"

"Yeah. It… it really doesn't limit their right under the First Amendment to do what they want with the photo. All it does is says that they cannot charge a fee to remove the… for someone who's been acquitted of a crime." 09800067.doc 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Okay. I hear what you're saying and I… I like the idea. I just am concerned, I don't know if it's been vetted that's all. And where was the Illinois Press Association on this?"

"Mr. Franks, your time has expired. Please bring your remarks to a close."

"They're neutral."

"Okay, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I know you're trying to be expedient, but I think… I'm… I'm concerned that if you only allow one speaker, perhaps on the last Bill for instance, I wasn't sure what it did. I'd prefer if we have an ability to ask the questions. I think people would rather get it right than be quick. That's all. I just think we need to slow it down and get it right."

"Mr. Franks, the Chair intends to follow the Rules. Mr. Martwick to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harris, Jones. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1042, Representative Williams. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams." 09800067.doc 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. This Bill amends the Recreational Land Use Act and provides for the reinstatement of protections for landowners who open their land to the public for recreation and conservation purposes. Additionally, this Bill retains the protection for landowners who open their land to individuals for hunting and recreational shooting. I know of no opposition. We've worked this Bill out over a number of years. And I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Berrios, D'Amico, Golar, Jackson. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker. You're looking great today as usual. I'd like to acknowledge some kids we have up in the… up in the gallery from LaSalle School. One real special kid, her name is Coco. She's kind of related to me. Coco could you… can you… can you… where are you Coco? Say hi, Coco. You're amazing. If you could give them a welcome, I'd appreciate it."

"Welcome to Springfield. Happy to have you with us. Senate Bill 10… excuse me, Senate Bill 1366, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill." 09800067.doc 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The… this is a gut and replace with the legislation that's named on the board. This is, in fact, a piece of legislation that will address the fact that the early retirement option under the Teachers Retirement System is due to expire on June 30. This legislation will… for those folks who are what we've called in the pipeline, who have either exercised an option previously or have that… have made an election under a collective bargaining agreement, will provide them an opportunity to continue to take advantage of the ERO for another limited period of time. And it will… it will cost the school districts and the employees more because the Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability has reevaluated what the cost of the ERO is and we've included those higher numbers in the Bill. And to the extent that there are new folks taking advantage of the ERO, it will be only at the discretion of the school districts as to whether or not they want to offer the ERO. So, this is the… it's the agreement that we've reached."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Bill is on the Order of Short Debate. The Chair recognizes Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And a question of the Sponsor?"

"Please proceed." 09800067.doc 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Harris, D.: "Representative, as I understand it, this extends the ERO option for only six months. Is that correct?"

"No. It… it does two things. One is, for those folks that have exercised the ERO under the existing law but do not yet turn 55 before June 30 but retire by June 30 that extends it another six… they have another six months in which they can turn 55 and still start receiving their pension which is the deal that they cut when they… when they made that… when they retired early. Then there's a second component part to the Bill which would extend the ERO for three more years. But that would be… we would eliminate all the requirements in the existing ERO that… that ten… that the school district must offer at least 10 percent of the workforce the opportunity to retire under ERO. This would be solely at the discretion of the district as to whether or not they want to offer the ERO. So you could… you could really say it's almost a three year extension. But it's, again, it's at the option of the district." Harris, D.: "Thank you very much."

"Leader Nekritz to close."

"Ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Franks, Mr. Reis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Franks." 09800067.doc 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Most… Mr. Speaker, I didn't vote on that last Bill because I didn't have enough information to vote. I wanted to ask a question as to see whether there was any fiscal impact to the State of Illinois. Having one person speak who didn't answer… ask that question, I didn't get my question answered. I understand you want to go fast, but I object to this. I think we're rushing this and there's no reason to rush. We've worked… we were here last week, we spent an hour and a half on the floor three of the days, we did practically nothing. We've wasted time and now we're voting on important Bills and I don't know what they mean. And I think a lot of people voted on that last Bill and they had questions and didn't have an opportunity. I'd ask you to please slow down and allow us to debate these Bills, otherwise it's becoming a farce and I won't be voting."

"Senate Bill 1493, Mr. Sullivan. Please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "Out of the record. Senate Bill 1817, Representative Tracy. Representative Tracy. Out of the record. 1842, Mr. Beiser. Out of the record. 2106, Mr. Sandack. Ready and… ready to go. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. There being no debate, those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Beiser, Flowers, Fortner, Rita. Representative Flowers. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I would like to take this opportunity to introduce and for the House to give a nice warm welcome to Paul Christiansen. Paul is an intern in my office and he had the opportunity to come over today and visit with us and see us in action. Paul is up here in the gallery standing up with my legislative assistant from my Champaign office, Teri."

"Welcome to Springfield. Returning to Senate Bill 1587, Representative Williams. Please read the Bill." 09800067.doc 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This Bill deals with the surveillance by drones, unmanned aerial vehicles, and precludes the use of drones for surveillance by law enforcement with some important exceptions: to counter a high risk of a terrorist attack with a search warrant based on probable cause with reasonable suspicion that action is needed to prevent imminent life to harm or forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, to locate a missing person or to photograph the crime scene or traffic crash scene. This may seem like science fiction, but the reality is law enforcement is seeking to obtain in many cases drones which are very easy to access in terms of cost and a big threat to our privacy. I ask for an 'aye' vote. Happy to answer any questions."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Bill's on the Order of Short Debate. The Chair recognizes Mr. Reboletti for two minutes."

"At the moment, you're the only speaker, Sir."

"Your request will be granted, Sir."

"Lady yields." 09800067.doc 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"That absolutely is… is allowed."

"At these… at this point, I believe there are at least two law enforcement agencies that are exploring and testing the usage of drones. But the idea here is to address this proactively, and ensure that the privacy protections for citizens are in place and to ensure freedom for unnecessary surveillance without reasonable suspicion of crime."

"With a warrant, it's 45 days."

"Up to."

"Yes. Yes, Sir, the court does have discretion." 09800067.doc 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Well, there are a number of states, first of all, that have taken action to limit and restrict how drones can be used for the exact reasons we've discussed in committee. But at this point, drones are getting smaller, they're getting cheaper. They can come in a variety of types with a variety of uses. And they are very useful tools. This Bill in no way limits the use for important law enforcement needs. What it does is ensure that the privacy protection afforded to us under the Constitution, under the First and the Fourth Amendments are intact."

"There being no further debate, those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cloonen, Hatcher, Leitch, Morrison. Hatcher. Please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Moving to Senate Bills-Second Reading. On page 5 of the Calendar appears Senate Bill 1245, Representative Williams. Please read the Bill."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Senate Bill 1547. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1911, Mr. McAuliffe. Please read the Bill. Excuse me, Sir, Senate Bill 1911."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2378, Leader Currie. Out of the record. Moving to the Order of Concurrence. If you see a Bill of yours on this Calendar, please be ready. House Bill 84, Mr. Franks. Please proceed, Sir."

"I move to concur with Senate Amendments 1, 2 and 3 which were basically technical Amendments to the Bill that we passed here unanimously. And this was dealing with the gray marketers who were price gouging during drug shortage times."

Speaker Lang: "Gentleman concurs that we concur in Senate Amendments. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Conroy, Drury, Dunkin, Golar. Mr. Drury, Mr. Dunkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. 09800067.doc 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1, 2 and 3 to House Bill 84. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 189, Representative Cloonen. Please proceed. Representative, it appears you have two Motions. You have one Motion to Concur and one Motion to Nonconcur. Which would you like to proceed on?"

"I would like it out of the record, please."

Speaker Lang: "Out of the record. House Bill 490, Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 490. The legislation calls for universities to make a decision as to when their students will take the basic skills test for the State Board of Education and as long as they take it prior to their entering into student teaching. Senate Amendment 1 had an error in it because it included those professional services like a hearing officer or vision tester or those that provide services rather than are teaching. So, Senate Amendment 2 took that issue out. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Lady moves for Concurrence. Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"Lady yields."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harris, Hoffman, Jones. Please take the record. On this question, there are 88 voting 'yes', 29 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 490. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 922, Representative Hurley. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Today I move to concur Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 922. This is an agreed Amendment and it removes all opponents to the original Bill including the Illinois Chamber of Commerce who is now in support. This will reduce the original Bill's requirement for contractors to retain prevailing wage records for 10 years down to 5 years. It also states that all records can be kept in paper… paper or electronic. Any questions and I encourage an 'aye' vote." 09800067.doc 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Lady moves for Concurrence. Chair recognizes Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Mr. Bost."

"The original opponents were the Illinois Chamber of Commerce, the Associated Builders and Contractors and NFIB. They are now proponents. And it re… the Bill…"

"The record keeping in the Bill that was passed out of the House said you had to keep records for 10 years."

"So now that's been reduced to 5 years and that's agreed upon. And there's also publish violations. The original Bill, you were supposed to keep the… you were published on a list for 10 years if you had two violations. This reduces that to 7 years. And it also clearly states that the records can be kept in paper or electronic." 09800067.doc 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Well, tax purposes are 7 years and this has been now reduced to 5 years."

"So, it's less of a requirement."

"Representative Tracy."

"Mr. Kay." 09800067.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Sponsor yields."

"I… I'm unaware of the number."

"Yes."

"Again, unaware of the number."

"Mr. Moylan."

"To the Bill. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09800067.doc 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"This Bill simply amends the Prevailing Wage Act and makes a technical change in a Section concerning violations of the Act. This is only to punish contractors that take jobs and the prevailing wage and do not pay the proper wage. This is a good Bill and Representative Hurley only made it better. And I strongly urge an 'aye' vote. This has nothing… nothing to damage business in the State of Illinois."

"Representative Cloonen."

"Yes, actually, to Representative Tracy's comment about not being able to find how to start a business in Illinois. All the person has to do is Google how to start a business in Illinois and it takes you right to the website for the State of gov… the Illinois Government website, how to start a business in Illinois."

"Representative Hurley to close."

"Again, I appreciate both sides and the contributions they've made to this Bill. This reduces the record keeping to 5 years which is less than the IRS requests. And again, contractors who play it by the Rules on public works construction contracts will have absolutely nothing to worry about if this Bill becomes a law. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sullivan, Williams. Please take the record. On this question, there are 75 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 09800067.doc 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 922. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 983, Mr. McSweeney. Please proceed."

"Gentleman moves to concur. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Sims. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 983. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1063, Mr. Jefferson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the General Assembly. I move to concur with Senate Amendment 1 which removes all opposition from the Bill. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves to concur. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1063. And this Bill, 09800067.doc 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1191, Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the… of the House. I concur with House Bill 1191, Senate Amendment #1 which increases the authority to the Long Term Care Ombudsman Program to advocate not only on behalf of residents in a long-term care facility but also for individuals in their own homes on… or in community-based settings. The increase is needed to address the growing numbers of individuals who are long-term care eligible and receive services in the community. The reason for the proposed increase is to comply with the Smart Act. Thank you. I'm sorry. That would be Amendment #2."

"You completed your remarks, Representative?"

"Pardon me?"

"Have you completed your remarks?"

"Yes."

"Lady moves to concur with Senate Amendment #2. The Chair recognizes Mr. Reboletti."

"Lady yields."

"So, the… in the original Bill it had to do with the online training and to… there would be a fee charged for the providers who are already doing the online training. So 09800067.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 this is kind of separate. This is in addition. But the two positions that you're talking about in this particular Amendment would be absorbed in the FY13 funding already."

"No."

"That's… that sounds… that sounds about right."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? One more time. Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Bost, Tryon. Please take the record. On this question, there are 62 voting 'yes', 55 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 1191. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1335, Mr. Sandack."

"Gentleman moves to concur. Chair recognizes Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields." 09800067.doc 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sims. Please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1335. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1544, Representative Sente."

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman… Speaker. I concur with Senate Amendment 1 and 2. This is a Bill from… regarding DCO, They're required to develop a five-year strategic, comprehensive economic development plan with annual updates. The first plan will be due July 1, 2014. They'll be setting specific measurable, realistic, time-sensitive goals. There will be an opportunity for public input that will fit into an annual piece of legislation that will come before the General Assembly and have an opportunity for 09800067.doc 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 approval. And there's also a 12-member private business council that will be appointed by the Governor and approved by the Senate. I'm happy to take questions."

"Lady moves to concur. The Chair recognizes Mr. Reis."

"Lady yields."

"Correct."

"Like the claw back provision?"

"That is not in the Bill."

"The… the private businesses can bring that up with DCO and perhaps that can be a piece added to the annual legislation that spins out of this piece of work."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Schmitz."

"Lady yields."

"There is some cost associated with it. There are the reimbursable expenses are taken care of for this 12-member council that would meet at least twice a year. Now I do want to also explain, if the annual plan has any strategy that in… that has any fiscal impact, that fiscal impact has to be detailed extensively by DCO and then it would be… have to be approved by the General Assembly annually."

"There's no cost with creating the council that can't be absorbed by DCEO, they said that yesterday in committee. So only their reimbursable expenses are to… are… are accounted for. But I was suggesting that if any piece of the plan each year has a fiscal impact, we have the chance to approve that or not here on the floor." 09800067.doc 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"The members of the council, this isn't a… a piece that was developed extensively over the summer and the fall. This is the result of Senate Bill 2. And so, private businesses asked if they could have a part and be involved with DCO. So I just want to be sure and explain that there are 10 different businesses, small business, manufacturing, applied sciences, et cetera. Two members at large are appointed by the Governor, approved by the Senate."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Harris, Jones, Mell. Please take the record. On this question, 09800067.doc 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 1544. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Mell."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I just… in my hands I have a flag from a friend of mine who's serving in Kandahar, Afghanistan. His name is Lee Reinhart. And I'm videotaping it and he wanted it on the floor and I just want to say that we're proud of you and we love you. And thanks for serving our country, Lee. Thank you."

"Thank you. Mr. Sacia."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Mr. Sacia. House Bill 1604, Mr. Sullivan."

"Gentleman moves to nonconcur. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted. The House does nonconcur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1604. House Bill 2239, Mr. DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2239. And this is an initiative of the Thorn Creek Base and Sanitary District and it basically extends the deadline of when the appointing authority can appoint a member to the board. I think it's May 1 now and this would extend it to July 1. Ask for your 'yes' vote."

"Gentleman moves to concur. The Chair recognizes Mr. Ford. Gentleman wishes not to speak. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis, Mussman, Smith, Turner. Smith. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2239. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2250, Representative Willis on a Motion to Nonconcur. Out of the record. House Bill 2311, Mr. Beiser. Out of the record. Moving to page 10 of the Calendar, House Bill 2408, Mr. Costello. Out of the record. House Bill 2418, Leader Currie. Out of the record. House Bill 2520, Representative Hatcher." 09800067.doc 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Lady moves to concur. Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Evans, Franks, Lilly, Mussman. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 7 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2520. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2618, Mr. Brady. Excuse me, Sir. Out of the record. House Bill 2623, Mr. Fortner. Please proceed, Sir."

"Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendments. Those in favor of his Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis, Manley, Willis. Willis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2623. And this 09800067.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2720, Mr. Rita. Mr. Rita. Out of the record. House Bill 2767, Representative Kifowit. Representative Kifowit. House Bill 2773, Representative Hammond. Please proceed."

"Lady moves for the Concurrence with the Senate Amendment. The Chair recognizes Mr. Moffitt."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Sponsor yields." 09800067.doc 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mussman, Reboletti. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 2773. And this Bill, having received the 09800067.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"I'd like to welcome… ask everyone to welcome members of my district staff. I have my district director, Brittany Brown is here up in the gallery. And one of our summer interns, Michael Ocher, he's a sophomore at the University of Maryland, and he comes down from Northbrook. Just ask that you give them a warm Springfield welcome."

"Welcome, glad to have you here with us. Mr. Jones."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Recently, there was an incident with myself and a lobbyist at Smokey Bones that has since been resolved. I want to thank the Body and the 89 Members who signed the letter supporting a resolution to the incident. More importantly, Representative Greg Harris and Representative Sue Scherer who's not here today. I also want to thank the representative of Smokey Bones who has graciously provided us with lunch today. Lunch is in M-1. So I just want to welcome my colleagues and invite everybody to have some lunch courtesy of Smokey Bones in M-1."

"House Bill 2869, Representative Harris. Please proceed." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. I would like to move to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2869, which is the reauthorization of the 09800067.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 2009 Build Illinois Bond Act and General Obligation Bond Act which are for the construction of capital projects across the State of Illinois. This is $2.7 billion worth of authority for the final phase of that project, $2.2 billion in General Obligation Bonds and 5.5… $550 million in Build Illinois Bonds. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

Speaker Lang: "Gentleman moves for Concurrence. Chair recognizes Representative Tracy."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So I have a very specific question, Greg. I hope it's… can be given the right answer." Harris, G.: "The Zalewski Memorial, is it in here? I don't know."

"Part of the… the bond authorization will allow for the payment to the schools for the 2003 school construction, correct?" Harris, G.: "Yes."

"So, is it fair to say that once the bond authorization is done and the… that all the schools on the Capital Development Board's list won't have to wait, they'll all be able to get paid up front?" 09800067.doc 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Harris, G.: "The 2003 list it would be… assume that would be a priority. Now, you know, the districts would have to then distribute those funds."

"Okay. Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor?"

"Please proceed." Harris, D.: "Representative, this is… these bonds are for reauthorization of the bonds for the capital project, correct?" Harris, G.: "Yes, this is reauthorization." Harris, D.: "And this is the… as I understand it, this is the last year, FY14, is that the last year of the capital project?" Harris, G.: "That is my understanding." Harris, D.: "That's also my understanding as well. So, we're… we're authorizing these bonds to finish up the capital… I said the capital project, the capital plan that is already in place and this is simply a reauthorization. Thank you very much."

"Mr.… I'm sorry. Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields." Davis, M.: "Now, when you say you're going to have school bonds, are there any Chicago schools that would get funds for this?" Harris, G.: "There… there will be, yes." Davis, M.: "For what exactly?" 09800067.doc 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Harris, G.: "For… this is construction, this is construction of new buildings, Representative." Davis, M.: "For new… new buildings?" Harris, G.: "That will go to the district… to the different school districts including the City of Chicago." Davis, M.: "It is… is it for… will there be any for rehab or refurbishing or any of that, or is it just new construction?" Harris, G.: "I'm told that the correct answer is that Chicago, under the 2000 Act, would get 20 percent of the money and it could be used for new construction or maintenance and that's at the discretion of the Board of the Chicago Public Schools." Davis, M.: "Okay. Can you tell us some other things that are going to be in this issue?" Harris, G.: "Certainly. There will be $386 million toward statewide public… toward the public universities and community colleges statewide. There'd be $59.4 million for child care and mental health facilities, $22.3 million for water resources, $11 billion grants for local government. There would be four series of transportation issuances that would equal $787.6 million. There is $534 million for grants for local school construction. We referenced just a moment ago there are $20 million for pollution control initiatives." Davis, M.: "So, but… my question is, are there any… is this funding for any old requests or new requests?" Harris, G.: "These are from 2009." Davis, M.: "Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman." 09800067.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Evans, Pihos. Please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', and 3 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to House Bill 2869. And this Bill, having received 09800067.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2925, Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with the Senate Amendment 1 to HB2925. It amends the State Officials and Employees Ethics Act. It says that any member of a governmental entity appointed by the president of a county board must abide by the same ethics laws of that county and is subject to the jurisdiction of the county's ethics officer or inspector general. The Amendment in the Bill changes it from covering just Cook County to applying to all counties in the state."

"Lady moves to concur. Those in favor of the Lady's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Thapedi. Please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2925. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3111, Representative McAsey. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 3111, I move to concur in Senate Amendments #3 and #2. The underlying Bill is the Access to Justice Act, an initiative of the Illinois Supreme Court and particularly Chief Justice Kilbride. The Amendments are essentially technical changes made in the Senate. Amendment #3 prohibits any money that's deposited into either the Access to Justice Fund or the County Law Library Fund, it prohibits them… that money from being used directly or 09800067.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 indirectly for any lobbying activities. And Amendment #2 states that any of these moneys, subject to appropriation, are to be used by the Supreme Court. And that the moneys are to be deposited with the court as opposed to the State Treasurer. I ask for the support of the Body."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Lady yields."

"It's a Motion to Concur in Amendments 3 and Amendment 2. So, I think that I explained Amendment 3 before I explained Amendment 2. Is your question as to…"

"Okay. So Amendment #2 has simple language that reads that… basically, subject to appropriation moneys that are in the fund shall be used by the Supreme Court. And then the other part of the Amendment is to change the State Treasurer to the Supreme Court. So, any moneys are to be directed directly to the court, not through the Treasurer's Office."

"Okay."

"I believe that there are other instances that, as I stand here right now, I don't have a list of them."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"Yes."

"With regard to the underlying Bill, the Access to Justice Act, the pilot program for pro bono legal assistance by the courts that would be statewide with one program anticipated in each of the Appellate districts. In addition, you may recall that this also creates the hotline for legal assistance to veterans that's available statewide and to… to veterans and active duty personnel as well statewide."

"So, that is absolutely my hope that with this language whereby moneys are collected within our court by our clerks of the court and then are deposited directly to the Supreme Court that, yes. That… that these moneys could be there for immune from sweeps and would go towards those veterans… the veterans' programs, the pro bono programs as well as, I 09800067.doc 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 think I neglected to mention, the law libraries morphing into self-help legal centers."

"I appreciate that. Thank you."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"And… and so, to that I'm happy to address your question. That's in the underlying Bill…"

"…that already passed this House."

"The Amendments don't have anything to do with…"

"…the self-help legal centers."

"But, essentially, the initiative of the courts is to… right now, all of our courthouses have law libraries, self- service law libraries. But they're… they're not really as helpful as we believe that they can and ought to be for… for persons who need legal assistance. So, you know, county by county they'll be developing that with the help and guidance of the Supreme Court." 09800067.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"I don't think there's anything that would prohibit that, but what the Access to Justice Act is doing is to allow for the creation of a new pilot program for Supreme Court sponsored pro bono legal services. So there's nothing that says that the court can't partner with already existing…"

"…like Prairie State to and help to augment Prairie State and have Prairie State provide that service in a particular Appellate district. There's nothing that would prevent it, but there's also nothing that says that, that that's, in fact, how it would be used. But… but this is really to augment the work of Prairie State and other legal aid services to make sure that we have more available for people who… who really suffer with access to justice and with… with qualified legal assistance."

"Right. And… and the fees are in the underlying Bill. There's nothing in the… the Amendments related to changing that."

"And… and I agree with you. Certainly court fees are an access to justice issue."

"That's why in the underlying Bill there is another piece that speaks to having a review statewide of all of the different fees, including the fee that we're setting up…"

"…to… to better understand what the fees are and how they do serve as a barrier to people's access to justice."

"The… I know that I had a conversation with the clerks at one point and they… my… I don't want to say that they're in support of it. I don't believe that they have any position. They don't have any concern… have any concerns that were expressed to me that weren't worked out."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 71 voting 'yes', 46 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 2 and 3 to House Bill 3111. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3120, Mr. Mautino. Out of the record. House Bill 3186, Mr. Moffitt."

"Gentleman moves to concur in Senate Amendments. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Drury, Dunkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 3186. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to page 5 of the Calendar, under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading appears 1659, Mr. Turner. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2381, Mr. Sandack. Please read the Bill."

Speaker Lang: "Third Reading. The Chair recognizes Mr. Jefferson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. Just like to a ask for a point of personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"I just want to recognize… take the time to recognize my chief of staff from the great City of Rockford, Illinois, Doctor Litesa Wallace, who is the chief of staff in my office. Please give a warm welcome to Springfield. Thank you."

"Happy to have you here with us. Senate Bill 2378, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. This has been approved by committee. What this measure does would be to bring the Secretary of State's Office in line with other Constitutional Officers, permit them to rent space in parking lots. I know of no opposition and I'd be grateful 09800067.doc 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 for your support. A question came up in committee about how much money the Secretary of State has in the maintenance fund, it's now about $168 thousand I'm told, and generally, they hold on to that money until there's enough to pay for some new project."

"Lady moves for the adoption of the Amendment. The Chair recognizes Mr. Pritchard. Mr. Pritchard does not wish to speak. Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor?"

"Please proceed." Harris, D.: "Representative, you mentioned that there's about $168 thousand in their fund right now. This would allow the Secretary of State… the Bill itself would allow the Secretary of State to rent parking spaces which are not used in other facilities. They already do that in Springfield, as I understand?"

"I don't… yes, yes. That's exactly correct." Harris, D.: "So, we're just extending to the rest of the state…"

"Right." Harris, D.: "…what we do in Springfield?"

"So we can build up the fund." Harris, D.: "And although I understand if I'm correct, that in the appropriations we only authorized $100 thousand worth of spending. So they really can only spend $100 thousand even though they have $168 thousand in the fund?" 09800067.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"At a time. At a time. Right. But… but next year may be another story and if the fund is more flush, they might want to spend a little more." Harris, D.: "Thank you very much."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"On page 8 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 996, Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Thank you, Mr.…"

"Lou Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur in the Senate Amendments. This is a Bill that deals with charitable games; it passed the House. The Senate made a couple of changes. First, they decided to keep the regulatory duties for charitable games at the Department of Revenue rather than move it to the Illinois Gaming Board. Second, they decided that a municipal facility can have up to 48 games a year not… as opposed to 16. This is not additional gaming, it's just how many times a location can be used. It does not change the number of charitable gaming that can take place. And the third thing the… the Amendments do is something that already passed in one of Zalewski's Bills. It allows the Illinois Gaming Board to use one or more outside testing laboratories to test machines. So, I would ask your support."

"On that, we have Representative Sandack." 09800067.doc 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Well, many municipalities have facilities where they hold these charitable game nights, like Las Vegas nights. And in come communities, as you know, there are only one or two places you can have these games. And so, this would allow municipalities to create their own Rules. Let's say it's a park district facility or a municipally-owned facility, this would allow them to have up to 48 of these Las Vegas nights a year but does not increase the number of Las Vegas nights in the statute."

"No, it does not."

"Representative Hays."

"I sure with it would, Sir."

"The question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 996?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Bradley, Chapa LaVia, Gordon. Mr. 09800067.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 70 voting 'yes', 46 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', the House concurs in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 996. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2432, Leader Lang."

"Thank you. I move for Concurrence in the Senate Amendment. The Senate Amendment became the Bill and it became exactly the same language in a Bill we passed overwhelmingly previously that deals with ATMs. It would say that the previous law requiring a sign to be posted on an ATM regarding fees does not have to apply… you do not have to post the sign if there's a video terminal that announces what the fees are. So, if it says on a video terminal what the fees are, it does not have to be posted with a sticker on the machine. That's all the Bill does now. We voted for this previously. I would ask your support."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2432?' All in favor vote 'yes'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 97 voting 'yes', 19 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', the House concurs in Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 2432. And this Bill, having received the favorable Majority… Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2832, Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. As you'll recall, this was the Bill proposed by the Recorder of 09800067.doc 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Deeds, Karen Yarbrough, our former colleague, to deal with the fraudulent filing of deeds and other documents at the Recorder's Office. As you'll recall when the Bill left the House, there were some opponents and I pledged to you that we would resolve the issues in the Senate. Amendments 1 and 2, they came out of the Senate are the agreed Amendments. So, as far as I know there are no opponents to this Bill. I would ask your support."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall the House concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2832?' All in favor vote 'yes'; all opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Christian Mitchell, Unes. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 7 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', the House concurs in Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2832. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"Again, a warm greeting is appreciated. Thank you very much. Chair recognizes Mr. Zalewski."

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"While we have this pause in the action, can the Body recognize the herculean effort of the Chicago Blackhawks last night in that Game 7 victory? And beat… beat L.A. starting on Saturday and the Cubs won again. So, some of us are happy about that too." 09800067.doc 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Under the Order of Resolutions appears House Resolution 350, Mr. Arroyo. Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Resolution 350 urges the United States Congress to recognize the 65th Infantry Regiment from Puerto Rico, that is also known as The Borinqueneers. The Resolution also recommends that a group of Army soldiers receive the Congressional Medal of Honor due to their distinguished service in battle, particular the Korean War. On February of this year in the State Legislature of New York, my aunt, Representative Carmen Arroyo, introduced a very important Resolution. And on April 25, 2013 in the House of Representatives, Congressman Bill Posey, Republican from Florida introduced House Bill 1726 and it's being introduced in other states as we speak. And here in the Illinois my colleague, State Representative Iris Martinez, is introducing it in the Senate. House… House… House Resolution 1726 requests Congress and the President of the United States to recognize and consider the Congressional Medal of Honor for the 65th Infantry for their record of achievement on the battlefield in three United States Wars: World War I, World War II and the most noticeable, the Korean War."

"Representative Berrios."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To continue on, after the Spanish-American War, Puerto Rico became the property of the United States Government on March 2, 1899. Congress then authorized the first body of native troops in Puerto Rico and by 1901 these troops were called the Puerto Rico 09800067.doc 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Provisional Regiment of Infantry. During World War I, they were assigned to defend the Panama Canal and upon their return in 1919 were renamed the 65th Infantry Regiment by the Army Military establishment. However, amongst the foot soldiers they self-identified themselves as Borinqueneers, a word stemmed by the native inhabitants of the island known today as Puerto Rico prior to the colonization of the island by Spain. During World War II, the 65th Infantry served gallantly in North Africa and Europe, Italy, France and Germany."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. To continue on, when North Korea invaded South Korea in 1950 the 65th Infantry Regiment was deployed to Korea. When United… U.S. First Marine Division and the U.S. Army 7th Infantry Division were forced into a major retreat after being encircled close to the Manchurian border Borinqueneers opened a 13-mile wide retreat path for and were successful in protecting their fellow soldiers withdraw and supply lines and overall mission of the U.N. When General Douglas MacArthur became aware of the actions of the 65th Infantry Regiment he said, 'the Puerto Ricans of the gallant 65th Infantry on the battlefield of Korea by valor, determination and result… result… resolute will be… will to victory give daily testament to their incredible loyalty to the United States. They write a brilliant record of achievement in battle and I'm proud indeed to have them in this command. I wish that we might have more like them. We would be honored to have the rest of the General 09800067.doc 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Assembly Members join us on this Resolution, to be added. And we ask for your favorable vote."

"Lady asks leave that all Members of the House be added as cosponsors. Is there leave? Leave is granted and all Members of the House will be added as cosponsors. Those in favor of the Resolution will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. And the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Brady, for what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Those in… Gentleman moves to waive posting on House Resolution 383. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Clerk."

"Chair recognizes Representative Osmond." 09800067.doc 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

Speaker Lang: "The Republicans will caucus in Room 114 immediately, then committees and then the House will reconvene at the hour of 4 p.m. Supplemental Calendar #1. Mr. Clerk, under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading there appears Senate Bill 2255. Excuse me. Senate Bill 2555, Representative Will Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read Senate Bill 2556, Mr. Dunkin."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a special guest so if Members will be in their chairs and staff will retire to the rear of the chamber. We're very pleased and fortunate today to have the Vietnamese Ambassador with us. Ambassador Nguyen Quoc Cuong, accompanied by his spouse Madame Hoang Thi Minh Ha, Economic Counselor Le Chi Dzung and First Secretary Nguyen Hong Quang. Please… please… please greet the Ambassador."

"The Ambassador will be in front of the Clerk's podium for pictures or for comments from all of you. The Chair recognizes Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." Mitchell, B.: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, behind me is Scott Busboom, he's with Talk 101 in Decatur. He has been broadcasting live this morning and just visiting the Capitol this afternoon. So give him a big warm Illinois welcome."

"Welcome to Springfield. The Chair recognizes Mr. Ford."

"Representative… Speaker… Mr. Speaker, I just want to give you a compliment on a great job that you did introducing our guest. I think you did an excellent job and I couldn't have done it better myself at all."

"Thank you. One of the tougher things I've done in quite some time. Chair recognizes Representative Conroy."

"Thank you. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I'd like to ask the Body to help me celebrate Laura Fine and her husband, Michael, are celebrating their 20th anniversary today."

"Congratulations, Representative. Representative Tracy." 09800067.doc 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Congratulations, Representative. On the Order of Concurrence on page 10 of the Calendar appears House Bill 2418, Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. I move that the House concur in Senate Amendments 2 and 3 to House Bill 2418. This is the Election Omnibus Bill, which we do pretty much every year at about this time. I will describe the highlights in the Bill as it would be amended by the… by the Senate Concurrences and then, of course, I would be open to any other questions you might have. The highlights as I see them start with the opportunity to join 12 other states in online voter registration for Illinois. Online voter registration, as I say, operates in 12 other states and we would begin this process in July of 2014. The match would be made by the state board of Elections with information from the Secretary of State's Motor Vehicle Division so as to make sure that people who register do in fact live where they live, and the State Board would then notify the appropriate election authority that these people are there. Many people worry that online voting is just a great device for young and wealthy people to participate in the election process. Let me tell you that in California where last year they instituted a five-week online registration opportunity, more than 800 thousand people signed up. And the majority were not wealthy, the majority in fact were lower income. Almost 25 percent of those who 09800067.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 registered were Latinos, women were more likely to register than men, and of the men who did register on the Internet most were over the age of 35. As it turned out, people who registered online were more likely to vote in the coming election. There's a lot of good to be said about an online voter registration system, including the fact that it saves money. In Maricopa County in Arizona the election authorities discovered that they were spending 83 cents to do paper registrations, that went down to 3 cents a voter when they went to an online system. So that, I would say, is a distinct highlight of the Bill. It will encourage more participation in the electoral system and that to me is good news for a Democratic form of governments. Second, it would require, outside of Cook, some state colleges to open for early voting. In both Peoria and Lake County, there would be a new electoral county board appointed by the… by the chief judge of the… of each of those counties. We would change the threshold for… for disclosures by political committees from $3 thousand to $5 thousand, clarify that if somebody's withdrawn from the ballot then that individual's name will not be available for the casting of votes. School board election challenges would go to the County Election Board rather than to the school board itself. There was earlier legislation that would have applied that across the board to other local elections as well, that is not… it didn't make the final cut. I think that was very good legislation, but I consider this to be an important first step. There's a change in the petition signature requirement for people running for alderman in the City of 09800067.doc 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Chicago from 2 percent to 4 percent. And finally, the measure clarifies and standardized the ballot language for a referendum that would either create or eliminate Home Rule authority for a municipality, language similar to a Bill introduced by Representative Sosnowski. Those I think are the highlights; there's a lot more in the Bill. It's a long Bill and it is comprehensive. I'd be happy to answer your questions and I'd be grateful for your support."

"Lady moves for the House concur with Senate Amendments to this Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Osmond."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, it does not. As you know, we have a bifurcated system in Cook County. We have a Board of Election Commissioners in the city and we have a County Election Clerk for the suburban part of the territory."

"This creates an Electoral Board in Lake County consisting of five members appointed by the chief judge. I think that the partisan break down is two, two plus one. And the county board would be in a position to set the salaries and establish the… the parameters for actions."

"I can tell you that the county board will have responsibility for setting the salaries and for funding the operation, so that's up to the members of the Lake County Board. And I would advise you to consult with them to get the answer."

"Representative, I know that this idea did not originate in this House. This is a measure that came to us from the Senate. So I anticipate that somebody or some people… some interests that have the ear of the Members of the Illinois State Senate were the people who initiated this proposal, not my idea. I never saw a Bill in this chamber. I never heard anybody in this chamber say this is 09800067.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 a really good idea. But this is a measure that came from the Senate and it is embedded in a larger measure that embodies a lot of really important items like online…"

"…voter registration."

"This is a…"

"This is a Concurrence. There's no opportunity to amend the Bill."

"I could, but I’m not. I'm… my Motion is to concur because I think there are some very important items in this Bill including… including the online opportunity to register to vote."

"And I…"

"Thank you. I certainly will give serious consideration to that suggestion." 09800067.doc 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Fortner."

"Lady yields."

"That's exact… that's a really good statement. That's precisely what we're trying to do. As you know, if those individuals voting in the wrong precinct cast ballot for federal offices today they are counted. This would say that provisional ballots that ultimately are counted that you would count the votes that those individuals make for state and local candidates as well. And remember, most people go to the wrong precinct not on purpose, they go to the wrong precinct because they didn't know where they were supposed to go. And frequently, election judges permit them to vote in the wrong precinct. And then that means that if they're in the wrong precinct, under today's law their… their legitimate votes don't count." 09800067.doc 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Well, I assume… Yeah."

"I assume that already applies if you're counting votes for federal candidates because that is current law. So whatever procedure is now in place for counting those ballots then that would be the same procedure that would qualify for people who voted in the wrong precinct in the wrong county."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Thank you, Sir. That's acknowledged. Mr. Reis."

"Please proceed."

"And we will do that, Sir."

"Lady yields."

"So, what this measure does for absentee ballots is that they… the state board would have to report the requests for absentee ballots and the returns of absentee ballots to political Parties on request. And it would allow voters to ask for an absentee ballot on the Web."

"No, no, no, no. I think all this says is that if you're a voter and you want to apply for an absentee ballot you can do so on the Web. What it does say is that the board shall let the political Parties know who has applied for an absentee ballot and who has actually returned an absentee ballot. And the reason for that is so they can 09800067.doc 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 follow up or not knock on the door on Election Day if they know somebody has already voted."

"I don't think that this is required to be online. I think it can become available to the parties, if they ask for it. I'll double-check, but my thought was just that this means that the… the board has to supply that information to a political Party upon request."

"The state board will give them information about how they can do it electronically."

"I believe they do it, and first of all, it would be required daily, but second, I think they already do it for ballots that are mailed in."

"And just on the Home Rule question, my reference to Home Rule in respect to this Bill is not that it's a preemption of Home Rule but we have taken language similar to that introduced in a Bill by Representative Sosnowski that would establish what the ballot question looks like if the voters are given the opportunity to repeal Home Rule or to create Home Rule." 09800067.doc 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Sorry."

"Yeah."

"And I thought… I thought we did… a year ago I thought we said that you don't have to report… I think it was up to $50…"

"…at a raffle, at a barbecue."

"Oh, okay."

"Well, then, I'd… I'd be happy to take another look at that with you, 'cause I thought we had taken care of the problem. If you're telling me we didn't, I'm a part of the Task Force on Campaign Reforms, funding reforms, and I will certainly make sure we bring that up."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Representative Kosel."

"Lady yields."

"I have. And the information I have is that for every other office of that kind, the residency requirement is a year from the date of taking office. I'm not sure, it may have been someone in Will County who brought this discrepancy to our attention, but the reality is that for recorder, for all the other county offices, the residency requirement is one year before the date of taking office. The sheriff's residency requirement was the odd… odd man out and this corrects that discrepancy."

"That's my understanding. Our staff did go back and research it and they said the reason for the change is because this would be the residency that applies to everybody else."

"Yeah." 09800067.doc 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"I believe so, yeah. Yeah, the staff people tell me that it's the… all the other county officeholders: Recorder of Deeds, state's attorney."

"Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this Bill. And just to the Bill. I know that it addresses a couple of problems that have taken place in my county and has… they've caused some confusion. And so this is helping to take care of those with regard to grace period voting and also with respect to counting ballots when someone has withdrawn from the candidacy once the ballot is already printed. So this is a very good Bill. I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Lady yields."

"And in Peoria County under this Bill, they will."

"Representative, I think I answered an earlier question by suggesting that this is a measure that came to us as a package from the Senate. This idea did not originate in the House. It is part of a much larger Bill… a larger picture, so I cannot answer your question."

"In… in my… in my county, as I earlier said, we have two different jurisdictions for elections. We have a Chicago Board of Election Commissioners and in suburban Cook County there is a Cook County Clerk who oversees elections."

"Mr. Kay."

"Lady yields."

"Yeah. And… and apparently there had been a court case that ruled that the language only applied to candidates for office. That was not everybody else's understanding. This restores language that we thought the… the provision meant. But I did talk with the Municipal League and with members of the… the Executive Committee and I think we may want to consider drafting slightly tighter language so as to avoid an inadvertent discovery that someone is in arrears, 09800067.doc 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 somebody who didn't realize that their property tax was due and didn't pay it for 2 weeks. So I have agreed to work on that language in a trailer Bill."

"Well, I think that would depend on a court to decide. But my view is that this language is drafted more… in a way that is not as clear as I would like it to be so that someone who is not deliberately defaulting on payments, whether it's the water bill or the property tax, should not therefore be bounced from office."

"Representative, this language is status quo anti and has been part of the statute for years and years and years 09800067.doc 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 until being misinterpreted by the court. So I think this language is pretty sound and I stand behind it."

"Remember, we are voting on Amendments from the Senate. We can no longer amend this Bill."

"There's a lot of good stuff in the Bill, have another look, Representative."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Majority Leader yields."

"I think what happens is, that in a lot of public universities, local voting sites… early voting sites are not easily accessible. So this just makes it easier for college kids to exercise the franchise, to exercise their right to vote."

"I… I think the election jurisdiction in conjunction with the universities can make that determination. And if you think they made the wrong determination, you can take them to court. I think that language speaks for itself."

"Well, there is going to be a double-check, a cross check with the Secretary of State's Office. That's the way it's done in other… other states that have already adopted… 12 other states that have already adopted online voter registration. So, if anybody of the same name at the same address is already registered, then they obviously can't register as a second person a second time. In addition, they have to provide the last four digits of their Social Security number." 09800067.doc 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"That's an individual identifier."

"Well, remember, we can register today to vote by mail. So you don't have to stand before somebody. You can fill out a form and turn it in at the Secretary of State's driver's license facilities; you can mail it in. What's the difference?"

"What they'll use is…"

"What they'll use is the signature that is at the Secretary of State location. So that will become your voter registration signature."

"Then… then you can't get it online, unless you, of course, have a state ID. That would count the same as a driver's license."

"I… I certainly expect it is not."

"Rarely do we engage in that kind of activity here on the floor of the Illinois House of Representatives. This is a matter of public policy. We are… the suggestion is to make a change in how the elections operate in the county of Lake, there's also a change in how elections operate in Peoria…"

"…in this Bill. And there is a change in…"

"There's already been a change in your county as I understand, Representative."

"Mr. Bost."

"Lady yields."

"I think the board is appointed 60 days after the law becomes effective."

"It… it may be 90 days. But there are many other responsibilities that fall to the clerk of a county. Those responsibilities would continue."

"And of course, the county… the county board might encourage the clerk to continue participating in election activities."

"I have no intention of so doing."

"Apparently the Senate thought so."

"Representative, pe… people have pointed out that we're one day from adjournment."

"I would say there isn't time to go back to the drawing boards."

"There is a lot of very good stuff in House Bill 2418 with the Senate Amendments and I encourage you to join me in voting 'yes'."

"Leader Currie to close."

"Thank… thank you, Speaker. Online voter registration is something I've been hankering after for a long time. Twelve other states do it. This is our opportunity to see to it that a lot more people, not just young people, not just rich people, have an easy way to participate in our democracy. I strongly encourage your 'yes' vote."

"Lady has moved for Concurrence in the Senate Amendments. Mr. Sullivan's going to ask for a verification 09800067.doc 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 of this vote and to answer Mr. Reis's question, this Bill will require 60 votes, Sir. Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cabello, Franks, Walsh. Please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. And Mr. Reis, do you persist in your request? I'm sorry. Mr. Sullivan, do you persist in your request? Gentleman withdraws his verification. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 6 of the Calendar, under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 1687, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was hoping that we could adopt Floor Amendment #2 and then debate the Bill on Third Reading."

Speaker Lang: "Seeing no objection, those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill." 09800067.doc 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Session, as well as the previous Sessions, we've had a number of Pension Reform Bills. Senate Bill 1687 is yet another component part of… of the pension reform that we are undertaking here in the State of Illinois. And this is an important reform because the… it's… I think it's important that we align the… and make… make our incentives for… for setting wages and salaries and benefits and keep those… keep those incentives within the same body so that an organization, a community college, a university that is setting wages takes account of the full cost of the wages and benefits package. Right now that doesn't happen. They set the salaries and then the pension cost come to the State of Illinois. So this is meant to align that and make sure that the full costs of wages and benefits is taken into account when setting those… when setting that… that package. I'm just going to go through a few portions of the Bill itself. First of all, we are going to be shifting the normal cost… the going forward cost of the pensions to the actual employer. These are employees that have never worked for the State of Illinois and we are going to be asking their employer to pick up this cost. But we're going to do that in a gradual way so that it can be accommodated in the… in the… in their budgets over a number of years. The cost shift will… the first aspect of the cost shift won't occur until FY15 and 09800067.doc 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 it will occur at one half of one percent of payroll per year. There's a lot of con… there was a lot of concern and continues to be I think about, you know, well, now that you've asked the… the community colleges and universities to pick up this cost, what's to prevent you, the General Assembly, from passing a benefit enhancement and just making us pay the cost? So, this Bill contains two levels of protections against that. First, it… if the General Assembly passes a benefit enhancement, the State University Retirement System, SURS, has the opportunity to accept that or reject that. And I would be hoping that they would do that based on their fiduciary obligation to the health of the fund. The second thing is, if SURS approves the reg… the benefit enhancement and each individual institution, the universities and community colleges, has the… also has the option to accept or reject that benefit enhancement. We make some changes to the SURS Board to make it absolutely clear that it is an even board between labor and management. The six elected trustees that are in labor remain the same. We then take the other six, three will be selected through the community college election process and three will be selected through a university election process. There's two other… several other components. As we were passing along this… this costs to universities, we recognized that this is a burden and we wanted to do what we could to ameliorate that. And so, we asked them, well, what… what would help you become more efficient, to lower your costs, to be more flexible in how you… you could do this? And what we… what they came back with were some 09800067.doc 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 procurement changes, so we have included those in this Bill. We are including the provisions… the underlying provisions of Senate Bill 1687… 1687, which are the return- to-work provisions that… they would be changing. And then finally, we had… we are lessening the requirement that they… on their inventory control program. One other item I would mention, we do increase the threshold for any benefit enhancement that the General Assembly would be considering, so that to move a Bill, a benefit enhancement, from Second Reading to Third Reading would require a three quarter Majority vote by the General Assembly. With that, I'll take questions."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Senger."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, Representative, there's nothing to prevent that today. There was nothing in this Bill that would prevent that, but what would happen then is they would bear the full cost going forward and the impact to the pensions on that. And that's exactly what we are trying to make sure happens." 09800067.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"It is."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, Representative, we give them some ability in this Bill for some efficiencies and flexibility which is what they sought. And I think that they would… could look to those items to… in order to be able to absorb this cost."

"There's nothing in this Bill that would allow them to do that."

"They… they could do that. You know, we… as the previous speaker mentioned that it was on the record, that will be a tuition increase. It was also on the record in committee this afternoon that it will not be a tuition increase and that testimony actually came from the people who set the tuition, not the people who don't set tuition. So, I… you know, I guess I would believe the people that set the tuition."

"Well, they testified today that it will not increase tuition."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"I believe the Bill that the House has approved just got assigned to Senate Committee. It will be heard this afternoon." 09800067.doc 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"I… I'm… I always believe there will be significant pension reform."

"Well, I… I guess that if I had… if I had those capabilities, I wouldn't be in the Illinois General Assembly. I'd be a magician or something else."

"I… I would believe that the… that the… the… we would have more certainty about what the cost is to be shifted."

"No, I don't believe it's uncertainty that's driven that, I believe it's a failure to adhere to actuarial science and underfunding and a number of other factors."

"Well, I… Okay. The… the returns for this pension systems have been very… have been right in line with what… with what they expect over the last 3 years. So, yes in any given year."

"And that will remain a state obligation."

"Leader Cross."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you. I've heard a lot of folks speak on this and I guess there's enough blame to go around on this whole issue. But I don't want this to become a partisan issue where we're pointing fingers and saying folks didn't get stuff done. I mean, the fact of the matter is we only had 22 votes on that side of the aisle on our pension reform and hopefully we're going to be getting that back soon. But I think… I think the Minority Leader makes a very good point. About 3 months ago I put together a sign totaling… with a running total of our accelerating pension debt. And 09800067.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 since that time, I just did the calculations, our debt has increased over one and half billion dollars. That's one and a half billion dollars, just in the last 3 months. And as we all know, Illinois has not only the worst funded pension system in the country, we also have the worst credit ranking in the country, and that's not a coincidence. We have billions of dollars in unpaid bills and we also have the second highest unemployment rate in the entire country. Millions of our citizens live in or near poverty. So I think we're failing. We are failing all of our constituents. Now, we're supposed to adjourn tomorrow, but I'm asking that we all pledge to stay here and not leave until we fix this pension issue. Because we've heard over and over from our Governor and from the Leaders that this is the most important issue, but still with 24 hours to go before we're supposed to adjourn, we don't have a real plan. I think our state's in crisis. And I hope in the next 24 hours that we can come together and solve this issue. And hope that we can stand together and demand that that pension problem be fixed. Now the Bill in front of us, in theory, may make sense. That the… with the cost shift. Unfortunately, you can't look at this in a vacuum because we have an antiquated school funding formula. I'll use my school district where my kids go for an example. In Marengo, Illinois, the schools receive about 8 percent of their funding from the State of Illinois, much less than the average of other areas in the state. So this Bill, if it were to pass, would increase property taxes on the… on our area. We already pay one of the highest property taxes, 09800067.doc 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 not only in the state but in the entire country. I believe we're 21st in the entire United States of America. That's not something I'm proud of. And that's because we have a funding formula which doesn't make sense. So, to try to only fix one portion of it and to say that we're going to do a shift without fixing the funding formulas for our schools makes no sense. And Mr. Tryon talked and he gave some good statistics about the cost of colleges and he's a hundred percent right. A one percent increase here on the cost shift will increase tuition. And this will hurt primarily those community colleges. Now, the community colleges are those that are trying to be economic engines in our communities. And when we have the second highest unemployment rate in the entire country, to take moneys away from those schools and not to help the people who need the most, doesn't make sense. So, this Bill may make sense at some time, it does not make sense at this time. And I would encourage a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Reboletti. Mr. Brady."

"Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, just a… one quick question on the enhanced vote threshold, something in the analysis that I saw that I didn't really understand. It says that in order for a Bill that increases the benefit under the Pension Code to move from Second to Third Reading here in the House, a three-fourths Majority by recorded vote is required. Is that… that correct?"

"That's correct."

"Can you tell me, was there some reasoning behind picking such a high threshold?"

"Representative, you may recall last year the General Assembly put a measure on the ballot to amend the Constitution to require a three-fifths Majority in order to do a benefit enhancement on any pension matter. I think this is along the same vein of, you know, that we obviously have a very, very big hole that we're trying to dig out of, 09800067.doc 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 and we have to find very, very big solutions to do… to get our way out of that, and this is one of those solutions."

"Do you know if… are there any other vote thresholds here in the House according to our Rules that require a… such a high threshold, a three-quarters Majority?"

"I'm… I… yes, there are… there are… in House Rules there are some requirements for Supermajorities to move a Bill from Second to Third."

"Okay. I… it just seems exceptionally high to me and I… I'm not really sure I understand why that provision was necessary. I understand that past Legislatures have been somewhat irresponsible in the way that we have agreed to pension enhancements. But for instance, we have this Tier II which we've… which has been talked about quite a bit and these Tier II benefits by all accounts are exceptionally low benefits as part of this fix. In fact, during many of the pension discussions it's been talked about changing the Tier II benefits, trying to alleviate some of the… the… move some of those benefits. So for state universities to move those Tier II benefits would now require, before there could even be a vote on the House Floor, would require a three-quarter Majority just to move the Bill to the Third Reading for a House Bill. Is that correct?"

"That's correct, Representative. And I would argue that we better get it right so that it's got strong bipartisan support when we do that."

"I… I have a… I'm… I'm very troubled by that. I think that this is a good idea, I think the cost shift in general. I listened to the testimony in committee and I 09800067.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 liked it. But to me this seems like it changes the tenets of democracy and I think when we start establishing some high thresholds it opens the doors to other things. I really don't know how I'm going to vote on this. I'm going to listen to some more of the testimony, but I think that this is something that the Body as a whole should consider. This is changing the threshold from a simple Majority or even a Supermajority to an exceptionally high Supermajority and… and I'm just not really sure that that's a good idea."

"Mr. Kay."

"Lady yields."

"Representative, no one has worked harder than me on making sure that that gets done. And I… so, I would… I would… I am… remain hopeful that this is not it. But this is… this has always been part of the proposals that I put forward and I think that this is an important component part of pension reform."

"Representative, are you talking about… you talking about the 1970 Constitution?"

"Yeah, I've… I've read it a time or two."

"Representative, why don't you just tell me rather than quizzing my knowledge?"

"Well, I… I wouldn't want… want to speak for the last… since the pension systems were formed in the 1930s, as to whether the state has made a payment every year, but I'll take your word for it."

"I… I'm not sure I understand. I mean…"

"I thought you meant… I thought you were asking was there language in the Bill to do that?"

"I don't… I don't… there's not language in the Bill, but effectively I would agree with you."

"This… this doesn't apply to school districts, Representative."

"Well, those same taxpayers are paying for the bill now. And… and they would be paying for it again. Just to… yeah." 09800067.doc 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"But… well their income taxes and sales taxes and other… other state taxes are paying for it now. And it will be a different pot of money after this is done."

"Well, Representative, what… we can always have the opportunity to come back and take a look at that. But right now, you know, the State of Illinois is looking at a $2 billion budget for Higher Ed. And the first year cost shift will be $18 million."

"The… the taxpayers are already on the hook, Representative."

"I… I disagree. I think… I mean… if we don't pay the bill they're on the hook as well. So, I don't…"

"Representative, the employers that are assuming this cost have agreed that they have the means to be able to do that. I… I don't… I think… I'm not going to speculate about what happens if they…"

"…if what…"

"If they can't, they've indicated that they can."

"Well, that's exactly what we do with IMRF right now."

"And they're… that's the best funded system…"

"…we have in the State of Illinois."

"And Representative, I would say…"

"Representative, were you responding?"

"Well, I was going to say that… to the Representative, that as a businessman I'm sure you would understand that every employ… every employer pays the full cost of wages and benefits for their employees. That's what we're asking these employers to do as well."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. Let me congratulate the Sponsor of this legislation. She has worked arduously for 2 and a half, 3 years as well as the universities. If you look at who the proponents are, they all signed on this. The universities don't have a problem with paying their fair share of benefits. They've agreed to this. A year and a half ago, they were the first ones out of the box who saw the rationale… the financial rationale and reality of where it is that our state is and where they 09800067.doc 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 need to be. So I am thoroughly perplexed to find out what it is that we're talking about since they've agreed on this. We're talking about the universities that have incredible business schools, some of the best researchers, some of the best actuaries and accountants. They were the ones who were meeting collectively to find out the best approach with this. This is what they want. So this is a great Bill, not a good Bill. The other point is, the moneys that are owed to state universities, it's always there. It may not come when you want it, but it's always there and on time. They receive their dollars before the fiscal year is over with. Yeah, we're delayed, but they get the money. Keep in mind, good people, state universities, just like private colleges or for-profit colleges, they have grants that they can extract dollars from. They certainly have alumni donating tremendous amounts of dollars and other resources to them. They engage with private corporations on research endeavors. But their biggest source of revenue comes, not necessarily from the state, but from their income fund. State colleges and universities have an income fund line to help offset whatever delays, whatever shortcomings financially that the State of Illinois presents itself towards them. Again, this is what they want. This is what the universities ask for. That's why they are supporting the cost shift. They have not skirted their effort and ability to deal with this real financial issue. And here's another best kept secret, state universities… they're not state employees. They don't run Departments of Corrections, DCFS, State Police. They do 09800067.doc 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 their own income generation, their own hiring, and now they want to be responsible for their own cost benefits and who they pay benefits to. This is a great thing. This is a wonderful time to hear someone, universities which are businesses like anyone… anywhere else here in the state, wanting to pick up, finally, the responsibility of them paying the costs of their benefits of their particular employees. So I applaud all of those universities who are doing the right thing, who see to it that our State University Retirement System is going to become solvent. Because if not, it'll just be the upside down opposite. So I applaud the Sponsor and to all of these universities who want to do this, who elected to do this, who organized early to do this because they have a vested interest in seeing to it that their pension is solvent now and in the future. I would encourage a strong 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Bost."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. And if I may, to the Bill. The Lady knows that I'm probably one of the few people on this side of the aisle who is willing to en… entertain the idea of a cost shift. The speaker's logic here makes some sense. The people who work for TRS, the people who work for SURS have never worked for the State of Illinois. So, why should the State of Illinois be paying their… their pension benefits. However, the Lady made a 09800067.doc 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 statement which troubles me greatly. And that statement is when she answered a question, is this pension reform for the State of Illinois? And she said I hope not, but it could be. If all we're doing is shifting the cost to save the state money, it's wrong. We're putting the cart before the horse which I think the Lady who is the chair of the Pension Committee knows full well and has worked harder than anybody else in this chamber to get pension reform, but I think she would agree we are putting the cart before the horse. Let's do pension reform first, let's get that passed. And then let's come back and say, there is a reasonable case because we know what the impact of that pension reform is. There's a reasonable case to do a cost shift. But to do this now first before we have pension reform is inappropriate, can't go along with it. And I urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I… I believe that the… the opponents that testified in committee were from the IEA and the… Illinois Education Association and the Illinois Federation 09800067.doc 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 of Teachers. Those are the only two that spoke in opposition. Oh, SEIU, AFLCIO, AFSCME…"

"They are."

"And they spoke to that in committee."

"The total shift in… in FY15 is $18 million."

"That would one eight, $18 million."

"Representative Bellock."

"Representative Senger."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Representative Roth."

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"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. We… we… in this particular debate we've reached a stunning level of disappointment on what we're doing when it comes to this issue, and that's saying something this particular Session. Have you really reached the point where we're wishing opposition on each other over the issue of pension reform? Is that what this Body has come to? We're asking for our colleagues to get opposition in the form of a rabid dog? That's the level of discourse the pension reform debate has come to right now? We had people ask about the motives of the universities. What's their motive? Why would they want to do this? God forbid, they want to do the right thing. God forbid, it's so unbelievable that it makes sense for the policy of the State of Illinois to be for the universities to accept the pension costs of their employees. That's so unfathomable to some us in this Body. We had three hearings on this matter, three hearings, and each time, the university professionals came to us and they said, they're ready to do the right thing. And now we're going to hit our 'no' buttons because it doesn't make sense for us. That's the way pension reform is going to go from here on out. Three weeks ago we put 62 votes on a comprehensive pension reform proposal that's going to save this state. We managed that issue, we took the courageous vote. None of us can control what's going to happen in the Senate. So, it's time to do the next right thing. If you have problems with the policy articulated in this Bill then vote 'no', but keep the discourse as a respectable level and let's make sure that our eye remains on the ball." 09800067.doc 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, I just have a… a very simple question and I just want it for clarification. This cost shift will be strictly to the community colleges and universities, not to our local elementary and high school districts, correct?"

"Correct."

"Okay. And I was in on a couple of the pension hearings that we had over the last couple of weeks and as Representative Zalewski said, they all totally support and want to take over this pension cost shift, correct?"

"I would say that they are willing to because they understand the long-term implications of this. I'm not sure that they're… you know, that they're excited about it."

"Okay. That's fair enough to say. To the Bill. One of the things that I want to point out to this is, one of the concerns I think that the universities presented was they wanted to be able to be at the table to have some input on that. And we're taken care of this in the SURS Board, putting them on as part members on that. Another thing, last night on the news many of us were watching and heard that the University of Illinois's basketball coach just got a raise. His current salary is $1 million, he got a $200 thousand raise and his salary next year will be $1.2 million. Now, that's wonderful for him and it's wonderful for the university of basketball and I happen to be a U of 09800067.doc 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 I alumni, I got my Master's through there, and I think that's a wonderful thing. But I think if they can afford to pay $1.2 million for their basketball coach, they can certainly afford to cover the cost shift without relaying that on to more taxes. I would urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House."

"Excuse me, Representative Flowers, would you suspend for a moment? Ladies and Gentlemen, please, it's late in the day, we're getting nervous, we're getting tired. Why don't we just sit quietly and rest while Representative Flowers speaks. Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. One of the previous speakers spoke about the time that was spent on a banking Bill. And I just want to reassure the speaker and anyone that was listening that that banking Bill was to address the very issues in what… in which we're talking about today, in regards to the pension. I don't think that we should be taking away anyone's pension. I don't think we should making… be making any types of cutbacks in anyone's pay. I don't think that we should be taxing people more while their tax bills are getting bigger and their paychecks are getting smaller. And the purpose of me introducing that Resolution to have a discussion on how to bring more revenues to the State of Illinois, on how to bring more jobs to the State of Illinois, on how to bring education more affordable to the 09800067.doc 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 State of Illinois. And as I stated yesterday, I will state it again today and I will continue to say it until such time that Illinois has its own bank, that North Dakota is not suffering. North Dakota is not having this debate in regards to pension. North Dakota is not raising taxes on the people of North Dakota. North Dakota's young people are able to go to schools, jobs are created. So I don't want anyone to misunderstand the fact that that Bill was a very serious piece of legislation and I guarantee you, you will see it again real soon. Thank you very much."

"Representative Bill Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. The simple question, there's just one simple question. Is… is this Body willing to cap future spending in order to… so they don't… they don't blow projected savings? I think that's something that we have to remember in this Bill. I urge a strong 'no' vote."

"Representative Nekritz to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are legitimate policy reasons to be pursuing this cost shift and there are reasons to do it at this time. We need to assure that like everything… like every employer in the private sector, we take… that the employer takes account of the full cost of wages and benefits. We hear all the time, why doesn't government run more like a business? Why doesn't government take… keep accounts like… like the private sector does? This Bill makes the employer responsible for the full cost of the wages and benefits. That's the right thing to do. I have to say I think it's… I… I have to agree with one of 09800067.doc 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 the previous speakers that this debate was a little astounding. And I… I think it's really inappropriate and uncalled for to mock Bills of… of Members in this chamber. We are entitled to come here and represent our constituents and bring their ideas forward for this Assembly to consider. And so to mock those ideas is really inappropriate and should never happen on the House Floor. I think also that to… to say that the universities and the community colleges, the academics in the State of Illinois, the Presidents of those institutions, were too stupid to figure out what this did and why would they… why would they take this on? Of course they know what they're doing. And I'll tell you why they did it, because in the long-term this is the right thing to do. And we rarely take a long- term view in the Illinois General Assembly, but in this instance we need to be looking 20 years down the road and say, we got to get those pensions paid off and we've got to get this fiscal ship righted. This is a long-term solution for that… for… for these issues. And it's the right solution for… for these issues. This is not been the hyperbole around this. This is not going to be a huge tax increase. The universities testified today in committee that there will be no impact on tuition. Now, I don't set tuition, you don't set tuition, they set tuition. And so, if they say that there will be no tuition increase, I will take them at their word on that. The shift itself is $18 million, $18 million in the first year. We, as the State of Illinois, send them $2 billion this year. That doesn't take account of their tuition, of their property taxes, of all 09800067.doc 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 the other revenues that they have, $18 million. Not 'b' with a… not billion with a 'b', million with an 'm'. So, this… it's not going to be easy. We have made these cuts, but the reason we've had to make cuts to higher education is because of the pension payment. So this is… this is… this all has to come together and be part of the solution. So this is the right solution for this particular time. I think it's important that we get this component of pension reform done just as I would like to get something… the other component and get Senate Bill 1 done. But this is every bit as important and needs to be done at this time. Thank you."

"Lady has moved for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 60 voting 'yes', 55 voting 'no' and 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules Report."

"On page 4 of the Calendar, under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 20, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill. Mr.… Take this Bill out of the record, Mr. Clerk. The Order of Senate Bills-Second 09800067.doc 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Reading, page 6 of the Calendar, there is Senate Bill 1715, Mr. Bradley. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a third time."

"Mr. Bradley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a long time in coming. The State of Illinois currently has fracking going on, horizontal high volume hydraulic fracturing taking place within the State of Illinois. This is the result of months, if not years, of bipartisan, bicameral negotiations between the industry, the environmental community, the Department of Natural Resources, the Attorney General's Office, the Governor's Office, the Environmental Protection Agency. It's been an open process; we have been inclusive. We have asked people to be a part of this and to be involved in this. And this is the result of months and months and months and months of work. I'd like to compliment several of the Representatives in this room: Representative Currie, Representative Jakobsson, Representative Williams, on our side; as well as Representative Bost, Representative Reis, Representative Cavaletto, Representative Tryon, Representative McSweeney and Representative Fortner who have been involved in the 09800067.doc 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 discussions on the other side. We have created what many have called a model for the nation that creates the strongest regulations, environmental regulations, which creates a reasonable taxation process for this industry and which allows the industry to develop in a responsible manner. Provides for testing, it provides for water quality testing, pre and post. It calls for air emissions standards, it calls for setbacks, it calls for a process of applications, it calls for a process of permitting, it calls for a public hearing process. It has pieces of good ideas from around the country. And I think everyone that participated in this process is proud of the result that took place. Horizontal high volume fracturing is occurring in Illinois currently. And it's important that we get out there and put in place legislation and regulations to first and foremost protect the groundwater of the State of Illinois and the people of the State of Illinois and to allow an industry to in… to invest in Illinois, to develop and potentially turn around the economy of southern Illinois. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Just to give you a little background and context about this Bill and to clear up some of the misconceptions some of us may have heard. This Bill was part of a strategic decision-making process that was made by many of the proponents of the Bill, a few of who I’m going to list for you now. Proponents include the Illinois Attorney 09800067.doc 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 General, Department of Natural Resources, the Environmental Protection Agency of Illinois, the Illinois Environmental Council, the Environmental Law and Policy Center, the Natural Resources Defense Council, Protestants for the Common Good, Faith in Place and others. If you have any familiarity with the environmental community in Illinois, you know that these are the leaders in protecting the environment and have been for many years. Last year along with several of my colleagues who are very focused on the environment, we made a strategic decision to move forward and pursue regulations for fracking. Last spring I joined colleagues, advocates in pushing for a moratorium on fracking. I voted for it, I cosponsored it. But we were unable to move a moratorium forward due to a significant lack of support. At that time, key Legislative Leaders were working for a more industry-friendly version and moving that language forward. Along with many of my colleagues and leaders in the environmental community, we decided to push for the most stringent, restrictive regulations as possible. We worked hard and spent hours, days, weeks, months to make sure that we protected our air, land and water. I think it's important to note that this Bill is not about a choice between fracking in Illinois or no fracking in Illinois. The choice is this, fracking in Illinois with no regulation or fracking in Illinois with the tightest, most stringent regulations possible. I think this Bill is really about a practical environmental advocacy. When it comes to making laws to protect the environment, we can't afford to be basing our advocacy ideologically. This is not 09800067.doc 139  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 the answer to protecting our air, land and water. We need to use environ… reality-based environmental advocacy and that's what this Bill is about. There are those that just want to say no to anything to have to do with fracking. I get it. I'm not excited about fracking coming to Illinois. I'm not excited about coal mining. I'm not excited about fossil fuels, in general, but at the end of the day, not passing this legislation leaves our environment unprotected and ren… renders our residents vulnerable to any risks that might be a part of fracking. In terms of fracking in Illinois, the status quo is absolutely unacceptable. As you may or may not know, there are millions of acres of land leased up in southern Illinois by companies prepared to move forward with fracking. There are several test wells. And in fact, most recently the AP reported I think as early as two days ago that Director Mark Miller reported that based on some very basic information that they found in some… in the two-page application that's required now to start drilling high volume hydraulic frac… horizontal fracturing is happening. Now, the Vice President of the Illinois Oil and Gas Association was careful and accurate to point out that the company is doing nothing wrong and that's the problem. Right now, you can… and fracking is happening in Illinois. It's not something that's coming, fracking has come to Illinois. So, again, our choice here is fracking with no regulation or fracking with the strictest laws in the country. Speaking of these regulations, I'm sure another speaker will go over the specifics, but we have the opportunity to learn from other 09800067.doc 140  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 states as to where they went wrong in terms of fracking. This is not to say fracking is not without risk. Certainly there are risks in any extraction of natural resources from the earth. But our job as Legislators is to mitigate these risks. Every step of the way this Bill does that. We don't stop thinking about the environment once the fracking permit is issued. This Bill contains constant monitoring. It contains opportunities to address issues and problems as they arise. And it provides for extensive public participation all along the way. I, as many of you are, am a strong supporter of renewable energy. The extraction of fossil fuels from the earth poses environmental risks, we can't help that, but unless and until we can be assured that there is no fracking in Illinois, we must pass these regulations in order to ensure our environment is protected. We need to push for policies that encourage the use and development of renewable energy such as wind and solar and others, but the reality is, we want our lights to go on when we flip the switch. We want the ability to drive from place to place. So, we have to provide for fossil fuels responsibly and we have to provide for fracking responsibly. Part of our job as environmental advocates is to ensure we have the strongest safeguards in place during this process. This Bill does that. This Bill… a 'yes' for this Bill is the pro environmental vote. A vote 'no' is a vote to allow fracking to continue in Illinois with no regulation. Again, 'yes' is the environmentally responsible vote in this case. And I urge an 'aye' vote. I would also like to just express my sincere thank you to the staff who 09800067.doc 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 worked tirelessly for hours and hours and hours and hours on this Bill over a period of months. Justin Cox from the Democratic side of the aisle and Laura Roche from the Republican side, I'm sure there'll be accolades for you later. But thank you for all your hard work."

"Mr. Reis."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Bost."

"Representative Mell."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Bradley, counties Johnson, Pope, Harden, Union, Jackson in southern Illinois and the cities of Carbondale, Murphysboro, Alto Pass and Carlyle have all voted for moratoriums on fracking. What kind of local authority aside from public hearings that carry little weight through outcomes, does this Bill allow for residents to control fracking in their communities, including unincorporated areas?"

"The… the State of Illinois has regulated the oil and gas industry for decades, if not hundreds of years. The State of Illinois is not willing to give up this authority to regulate the oil and gas industry. I would say that those communities stand… those communities stand in 09800067.doc 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 opposite of many other communities in southern Illinois that are in support of giving this industry a chance. And I would also say that there will be little to no fracking activity in any of those areas that you've just mentioned."

"Okay, great. So that's… that's quite a lot… big band down in southern Illinois."

"The other thing I would notice is currently under Illinois law, under the current oil and gas statute… under the current oil and gas statute, municipalities have an absolute right to ban any and all oil and gas activity within their municipal boundaries. They have an absolute right to ban any and all oil and gas activity within their municipal boundaries."

"Okay, thank you. Three to seven million gallons of water is used per… per well. Are there any restriction in place how much freshwater that can be used and where is it coming from?"

"I don't know that I accept the premise of three to seven million gallons. However, there are strong requirements and standards regarding water usage, regarding water disposal, regarding water containment, which I believe that the Environmental Coalition will tell you are the strongest in the United States."

"Okay, great. I understand that these companies have to disclose the chemicals used in their fracturing fluids to doctors. Is there anything in the Bill that prohibits companies from enacting a gag order or forcing doctors to force confidentiality… confidentiality agreements?" 09800067.doc 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"The Medical Society is fine with the language contained in this Bill."

"Okay, great. There's about 750 compounds that are… have been listed additives for fracturing in a report to Congress. Will the public be notified as to all chemicals that are being used in fracking as well as the chemicals that cause illnesses?"

"The chemical disclosure concept of this is groundbreaking for the United States. It was the result of negotiations between the Attorney General's Office, the Environmental Coalition and the industry. The vast majority are disclosed. There are limited trade secrets, which I believe are protected under a process which was agreed to by the environmentalists as well as the industry, the Attorney General's Office, the Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Natural Resources for the limited ability to use a trade secret but making sure that the information necessary to protect the general public and the public welfare is available when necessary."

"Thank you. The Journal of Genealogy (sic-Geology) said that the 5.7 earthquake that hit Oklahoma was a result of injecting wastewater underground. In the State of Pennsylvania, fracking companies are hauling wastewater to Ohio and disposing via underground injection Ohio… in Ohio and there's been several dozen small earthquakes. Will fracking be prohibited in earthquake zones? Does the Bill do anything to address the risk of increasing seismic activity with disposed wastewater as other states have seen?" 09800067.doc 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Yeah. We have a process in place to take into account and to deal with caution regarding seismic activity and I live in that area. Right? My child, standing behinds me, lives in that area. And we don't want to have earthquakes caused by any kind of activity, whether it's fracking or anything else."

"Okay. 'Cause you do know that there's… we have a big major fault line going through Illinois? To the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen. I understand that there's been a lot of work done on this and… and I appreciate it. And I… I definitely don't think that southern Illinois… I… I do think they value their land and their water and their environment, but twe… 17 countries, Vermont, New Mexico have a ban, New York State has a moratorium and over 250 communities in the U.S. have passed resolutions to stop fracking. And I understand that California is moving Bills to enact a moratorium in their state. Now I was carrying the Bill for the moratorium in our state and you know, a lot of people talked about the moratorium part but I think what got lost in that Bill was just the two-year… you know, just to wait and to study the effects of fracking on our environment. So I will be voting 'no' for this. I do… I do appreciate all the work that has been done. And I, you know, I just hope that we're not making a big mistake here. And I just wish we could, you know, just kind of stop the clock a little bit, especially when there's some major studies that will be coming out in 2014 about environmental impact and health studies. So, thank you very much to the 09800067.doc 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Sponsor and everyone who worked on his Bill. And I urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Cavaletto."

"Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this Bill also. I'd been working on it for a few years when people first came to me and talked about this and along the way I certainly learned a lot more as other people were doing. So I think this is a Bill that we worked on very hard. It was, at times, really exciting to be in the room and see both sides of the aisle discussing, not just both sides of the aisle, but the industry and the 09800067.doc 150  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 environmentalists and everybody working together to get the best Bill that we could have on regulations for the State of Illinois. To the Bill. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative…"

"Yes, I'm sorry."

"…is it… is it true in this Bill that among the regulations that are included, I know some people have mentioned some, but that there is public participation in the permitting process?"

"Yes."

"It includes the public notice and public comment periods?"

"Yes, Ma'am."

"Is it true that there's chemical disclosure?"

"Yes."

"Both before and after the hydraulic fracturing takes place?"

"Yes."

"And also, what about water testing? Is that going… is the water going to be tested before and after?"

"Yes."

"I… I think those are really good things. And one thing that came up, and I was talking about abandoned wells. Is… it's also in the Bill that there's going to be plugging of the abandoned wells?"

"Yeah. That's a significant problem downstate. And this Bill actually has the potential to actually make things better than they are currently." 09800067.doc 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"And… and abandoned… plugging the wells as well as restoring the lands that have been disturbed by this process?"

"That's correct."

"Thank you. I think it's… really behooves us all here in the State of Illinois to pass the best Bill that we can prob… we have put together for regulations on hydraulic fracturing. I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First, I would like to thank the Sponsors for their work and all the efforts that they put forward to create a regular… regulatory process in Illinois. Policies that we make today will influence our future. We have a responsibility to protect the long-term public interest. New York State, as was mentioned, has a two-year moratorium because the studies are not all in on the effects of horizontal fracking. I have a number of issues, just four quick issues that I just have some concern about with fracking. One is the leakage of enormous amounts of methane gas, which are 72 times as potent as carbon dioxide in trapping heat in the atmosphere. Some studies have shown that the benefit of natural gas to coal is completely negated because of the methane gas leakage. Second, there are large amounts of water that are needed for the fracking process. We're talking about 80 thousand gallons of water for every well drilled. Today, Lake Michigan is at one of the lowest levels it's ever been at. And it's not just because of drought, but it's also because of evaporation which is only going to increase with more 09800067.doc 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 carbon in the atmosphere. Our aquifers that we're so concerned about, where we plan to get the water to do this… to do the drilling, there was a big article in the Tribune the other day that they are at extremely low levels. Third, the fracking also can contaminate underground aquifers inadvertently by the upward migration of both methane and drilling fluids. And the fourth point is this disposal of fracking fluids as toxic waste. So we put 80 thousand gallons of our precious clean water into the ground with chemicals and it comes out all toxic chemicals and we have to figure what to do with it. There are really no laws that we know that can prevent these problems from happening. Our future is in renewables. We need incentives to decarbonize the environment and reduce pollution that affects climate instability. You know, we need… right now Illinois is an exporter of energy. There is no emergency and I really think we need to develop a path and a transition to renewables. I have grave concerns about fracking, I understand that this is a… a regulatory… that we are passing… that this Bill will more than likely pass and there will be some good regulator processes in place. But I just have to state that I do have grave concerns about fracking in this state. I support a moratorium and I know that the Sierra Club and the Natural Resource Defense Fund agree that the ideal would be a moratorium for Illinois. Thank you."

"Representative Fortner."

"Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. First, a reminder that fracking is happening in the State of Illinois, there are no Rules and regulations to make sure that it's happening in a safe manner. People have said that this is a really strong regulation. I'd just like for the Members to… to understand what that means in specifics. First, it means no open-air ponds for wastewater storage, not a single one, which means that we minimize the risk of water pollution, closed tanks not open ponds. Second, comprehensive water monitoring requirements, not just before fracking happens but afterwards as well. Frackers are assumed to be the problem if, in fact, there is some 09800067.doc 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 contamination of nearby water. So, if there's contamination the onus is on the frackers to prove that they were not the reason for it. The Act setbacks for water sources are about the strongest in the nation and the well construction standards require best engineering practices. They will have the strongest chemical disclosure provisions in the nation, chemical disclosures before and after fracking. We also have a comprehensive water management plan both before and after the fracking happens. Public notice and comment are the strongest in the nation. Permit application published twice in local papers, delivered directly to the owners of property near the proposed site. Public comment for 30 days; if a hearing is held, DNR can extend that time. Anyone adversely affected can ask for a public hearing, a contested case hearing. And finally, in addition to the Attorney General and the state's attorney's opportunity to file a lawsuit, any adversely affected person including environmental groups can sue fracking companies for violations of the Act and can sue the Department of Natural Resources if the suggestion is they were not being appropriately in charge of their own responsibilities. This is the most comprehensive, the most stringent set of fracking regulations in the country. I urge your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I also rise as chair of the Energy Committee, I also rise in support of the Fracking Bill. I've also worked with the Green Caucus, my colleagues here in the House, to come to this decision. 09800067.doc 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 This is a good regulated Bill. Also has the support of the Sierra Club, which I really appreciate and respect. Please join me and support Senate Bill 1715. It's a 'yes' vote and it's a vote… and it's the right vote. It is a jobs Bill that's really going to help the state and the people that live in it that we represent. Thank you. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I want to stand up here today on a monumental issue that's really, really going to help a lot of parts in southern Illinois, especially. First and foremost though, I want to commend my neighbor, Representative John Bradley, for his leadership and his hard, tireless work on this issue. It's hard to bring those kind of groups together, John, and you did it. We're proud of you. I also want to thank my other neighbors, Mike Bost and David Reis. But I also want to make sure that somebody gets a lot of thanks tonight, one of our House attorneys, Justin Cox. Justin, thank you so much for your hard work. We really appreciate you. A lot of people in this state are worried about this, Mr. Speaker, but this Bill before us has the strongest and strictest regulations in the country to make sure we do this right and we do it the safest way possible. We are finally going to use our own resources of our state to get off the total reliance of foreign oil. Let's help our state by creating hundreds of jobs and bringing in a lot in millions and millions of dollars and this Bill will do that. Just look what happened in North Dakota. John, again, 09800067.doc 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 thank you for your hard work. I really appreciate you. This is monumental and I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Durkin."

"Representative Yingling."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"All right. Even in my district by the Wisconsin border I have heard from my constituents about their concerns regard… regarding potential environmental impacts of fracking in Illinois. Jack Darin from the Illinois Sierra Club has this to say about the best state policy concerning fracking, 'Fracking poses grave dangers to our communities, land, air and water and contributes to our continued destabilization of our climate. The safest and smartest way to protect ourselves would be to immediately enact a moratorium to allow for thorough study of the risks 09800067.doc 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 of fracking and to learn from experience in other states in regards to major health… excuse me… and major health studies currently under way.' I agree with the organizations that support the moratorium and I have signed on as a cosponsor on the moratorium legislation. While I believe that the moratorium is the best policy solution, I am also a realist and recognize the fact that the moratorium simply does not have enough support to pass in the final hours of this Session. And in the absence of a moratorium, there are limited regulations in place to ensure responsible conduct. I do applaud the Sponsors of this Bill and the environmental organizations that have worked tirelessly on this legislation, specifically the Illinois Environmental Council and the Sierra Club. This will be the most comprehensive regulatory Bill passed in the United States to date. While it will not make fracking safe, this is a critical step to make sure that Illinois has some protections to prevent environmental degradation. I reluctantly support this legislation and would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I didn't have the pleasure of participating in the meetings regarding fracking and I understand that fracking is going on now. And so, we do need some regulations and this Bill will strengthen the regulations. But I do have a few questions."

"Sure." 09800067.doc 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"How will fracking affect the City of Chicago, please?"

"It won't."

"I understand that anyone could apply for a fracking permit at $100. Is that still true?"

"No. The fracking permits… the permit to the Department of Natural Resources is over $11 thousand. Permit to the Environmental Protection Agency is, I think, is it 3500 or 2500 dollars, $2500. They have to go through a thorough permitting application. There are civil and criminal penalties for falsifying the application, for falsifying anything in the permit. We do a background check, they have to put up bonds, they have to declare insurance. You just can't walk in off the street and get a permit to frack or do horizontal high volume hydraulic fracturing in the State of Illinois under this law."

"Thank you very much."

"Representative DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Bradley, there's… there's been some talk about putting people back to work. I don't know if you said anything in your opening. Do you have an estimate of the job creation we're looking at here?"

"Well, they're estimating… the estimates that I've seen are anywhere from 5 to 10 thousand to 76 thousand people. And when the coal mines closed, we lost tens of thousands of job downstate. The economic impact here… Daniel Yergin… Daniel Yergin, who is President Obama's 09800067.doc 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 energy advisor who is a proponent of horizontal high volume hydraulic fracturing, has indicated that this is making American manufacturing competitive again. Because not only is it driving American manufacturing, but it's keeping the cost of energy down alluding to what the Leader from the west side of Chicago alluded to earlier. We're in competition now with places we haven't been in competition with, job creation and affordable energy."

"What was that number of jobs again?"

"It's between… I've heard as low as 5 to 10 thousand and as many potentially as 76 thousand."

"Okay. Thank you. And what about revenue for the state? Do we have some estimates on that as well?"

"Well, the… the revenue for the state is based on a sliding scale of 3 to 6 percent of an extraction fee. We estimate that this could be in the tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars per year."

"Thank you very much."

"Representative Bradley to close."

"Again, I want to thank all the Members of the General Assembly. And to have been involved in this process and played some small role in bringing all these groups together and having people get up on the floor with such different points of views normally on issues and to stand up in support of a compromise forged through the democratic process of Democrats and Republicans, northerners and southern Illinoisans working together, labor and business, environmentalists and business, Farm Bureau and industry. The AFLCIO supports this Bill because there's local jobs 09800067.doc 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 involved. The Farm Bureau supports this Bill because we're protecting the farm communities. The Environmental Coalition supports this Bill because we're protecting the environment. The industry supports this Bill because they're interested in developing responsibly. The Department of Natural Resources supports this Bill because it's going to sufficiently fund them to make sure that people don't mess up what they're not supposed to mess up. The Environmental Protection Agency sponsors this Bill and supports this Bill because it provides the strongest regulations for the environment regarding this industry in the United States and could serve a model for the rest of United States. This is potentially a model for the rest of the United States and everyone in here that participated in that and that's a lot of people in this room. That's a lot of people in this room. And that's a lot of people that have been around this issue and have worked together. And this is an example of how democracy is supposed to work. And I would ask an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1715 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Riley, Sims. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 108 voting 'yes, 9 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1715, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bost has filed a Motion to reconsider the previous vote. Representative Bradley moves to Table the Motion. All those in favor say 09800067.doc 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is tabled. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 2378, Representative Currie. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Currie."

"…Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill would enable the Secretary of State to collect fees for parking lots other than in the City of Springfield the same authority given to other constitutional officers. I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2378 pass?' All in favor say… vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting 'yes, 0 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 2378, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 1547, Representative Lang. Please read the Bill. Out of the record. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 1625, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Chapa LaVia, for what reason do you seek recognition? I'm sorry. Representative Chapa LaVia, Senate Bill 1625. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill for a third time." 09800067.doc 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker and the Members of the House. This is identical to the Bill we passed out of here that got put on reconsider for vote because some of the Republicans voted 'no' and they wished to vote 'yes'. What it actually does, it amends the School Code to provide the law enforcement drill shall include evacuation or reverse evacuation for shooting incidents and provides that the school administrator… or and local law enforcement will mutually set a date and time for the drill. So, I'll take any questions and ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Pritchard."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"No, Representative. Thank you for that question. Currently law provides that there are four types of school safety drills, school evacuation, bus evacuation, law enforcement drill and severe weather and shelter in place drill and it doesn't. Currently school evacuation drill and law enforcement drills are both based on incident involving… They already are done, but they only have to do the four types, and they choose which ones they would like to do." 09800067.doc 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Thank you, Representative. Also, it gives the flexibility that there is… there only needs to be one law enforcement element added to that drill. So it could be one law enforcement officer from a police department or a sheriff's department, et cetera."

"None that we know of."

"Thank you."

"Representative Flowers."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, does this put in place shelters for those schools who are in the tornado alley that do not have shelters, underground shelters?"

"I'm not really abreast of that, Representative. All we're doing is changing the law so they'll add in this… this drill, law enforcement drill for evacuation and reverse evacuation."

"Okay. Because I see where current law does speak of shelters that's in place but the types of shelters for the tornadoes is becoming more severe." 09800067.doc 166  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Right. And I understand where you're going. The season's been particularly rough. But you know, I don't think… well… in this Bill itself doesn't cover any of that, but I understand your suggestion."

"Thank you."

"Okay. Thank you, Ma'am."

"Representative Moffitt."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"It's added to the list of those that have to be considered. The local school district would… would choose which drills they need to perform."

"Correct, Sir."

"Yes, the parent could opt if they wish to".

"But this is not going to be the severe case of commando going in the building and going crazy. This would be more like the drill, showing the kids where they need to go for safety, if something does happen in this situation, 09800067.doc 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 because we're very sensitive towards that in the discussion because of everything that's happened and unfolded in the United States over the last year. So, the school districts have had the ability… flexibility to produce the drill in which… in the… they see fit with law enforcements consulting them."

"Thank you, Representative Moffitt."

"Representative Davidsmeyer."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Chapa LaVia to close." 09800067.doc 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Thank you, Speaker and the speakers that spoke before that. I humbly ask and request an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1625 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 112 voting 'yes, 5 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1625, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1911, Representative McAuliffe. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative McAuliffe."

"Representative Dan Burke." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I stand in full support of this initiative and 09800067.doc 171  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 like Representative McAuliffe, would like to extend our great thanks to the Speaker and staffs from both sides of the aisle to find a vehicle Bill for this matter to be considered at the 11th hour of our Legislature. As Representative McAuliffe insisted, so many in our society and in fact, our country, are infected with this horrendous disease, hepatitis C. Very often we discover that those that served in the military were exposed to this virus through no fault of their own as they stood awaiting inoculations in service. I believe that the attention that this Bill will receive in the media will afford opportunities for those who would otherwise go undiagnosed and would suffer the consequences very much like Mike's father-in-law, who unfortunately succumb to the virus and ultimately died of liver cancer. I would encourage all of my colleagues here to not only vote for this legislation but go home to your districts and as often as you can, remind your constituents that they need to know the desperate circumstances they would confront if they had been exposed to hepatitis C unwittingly, and certainly there are opportunities for them to be diagnosed and treated. And I think as a result of this attention, we will afford some lifesaving solutions to those that need it desperately. I would encourage your support and your 'aye' vote in this matter. Thank you."

"Representative Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I'd just like to commend the Sponsor on bringing this legislation about. 09800067.doc 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Hepatitis C is a silent killer, affects many veterans and thank you. Representative McAuliffe. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative McAuliffe to close."

Speaker Turner: "The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1911 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no' and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1911, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Currie for purposes of a Motion."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. I move to suspend Rule 41… House Rule 41 so that Senate Bill 20 might be subject to immediate consideration in this chamber."

Speaker Turner: "On the Motion, we have Representative Sullivan."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I'd like to address the Motion as well. The Lady wants to suspend House Rule 41 so that Senate Bill 20 can be considered. The… the 09800067.doc 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 significance House Bill 41, excuse me, House Rule 41 specifically House Bill… House Bill… excuse me, House Rule 41, paragraph (1)c) (sic-(C)(1)), deals with the quick-take provisions that were… were put in these House Rules not by us, but by the Majority Party. And it says that you have to follow certain procedures if you're going to pass a Bill that deals with quick-take. Senate Bill 20 deals with quick take. You shouldn't be overriding the Rules simply because we want to pass a Bill that deals with one single element, in this case Peotone Airport. We shouldn't be overriding the Rules the last day or the second to the last day of session simply to accommodate one specific item in one or a very lengthy Christmas tree Bill. It is inappropriate to override the Rules. Again, you wrote the Rules at least follow the Rules that you wrote. I object strenuously to the Lady's Motion and hope you will vote 'no'."

"Representative Currie."

"Just to make the point that we suspended this Rule when we approved a quick take for the Illiana Expressway, nobody complained that time. And let me also make the point that this is a very specific footprint, it is not the entire footprint of the airport that would be subject to quick-take. But we know what it… this is, we know where this is, we know what it is. We've been talking about this airport for the last 12 years. Ordinarily when we deal with quick-take, suddenly someone comes along we don't really know what it is all about, but this one is clear. We have a procedure in the Rules to suspend this Rules in… suspend 09800067.doc 174  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 the Rule for circumstances just like this one. I urge your 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves for the adoption… I mean, the Lady moves to suspend Rule 41. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 68 voting 'yes' and 47 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', the Lady's Motion… the Lady's Motion prevails. And now, Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 20."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Currie. I'm… Representative Bradley on Floor Amendment #2."

"I'd ask this be adopted and then debated on Third."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 20. All in favor… Representative Reis."

"Please state your inquiry."

"The parliamentarian advises me that it does not."

"Representative Sacia."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 20. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Bradley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we all know what this is; it's the Economic Development Act of 2013. It includes the seed fertilizer plant in Tuscola, it includes the enterprise zone trailer Bill, it includes a Brownfield Redevelopment Program in the south side of Chicago…"

"Representative Bradley, this is… you know, we're dealing with Amendment #4…"

"Oh, #4."

"…right now, first."

"Okay."

"Yes, Sir."

"I think this is a technical Amendment. I'd ask it be adopted and moved to Third." 09800067.doc 177  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 20. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. Representative Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd just like to know what is the technical Amendment? Just, you know, give us some idea."

"Representative Bradley."

"It's a page and line Amendment. It fixes the date regarding the adoption of the Midwest Redevelopment TIF District Ordinance. The Amendment changes the date to May 27, 2000. It's a typo." Harris, D.: "Thank you."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #4 to Senate Bill 20. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read Senate Bill 20 for a third time."

"Representative Bradley."

"All the items in this Bill are related to economic development. This is the Economic Development Act of 2013. These are many good ideas that have come from different places and different parts of the state. There's… there's incentives and economic development, job creation for downstate. There's incentives, economic development for Chicago. There's incentives, economic development for 09800067.doc 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 northeastern Illinois. And there's statewide economic development and incentives for job creation in here. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I respect the concerns of my dear friend and colleague Representative Harris, the spokesperson of the Revenue Committee. And we get to the end of session these are not always ideal the way these things go. And I apologize to him for any discourtesies that he felt that the Revenue Committee or that he personally received as a result of this Bill. Having said that, there's a lot of good things in this Bill for economic development and for job creation. Downstate we have Representative Brown's idea with regard to the seed fertilizer plant in Tuscola, creating billions of dollars in investment and thousands of local jobs in our area, both in terms of construction and permanently. We also have TIF extension and language that is necessary to continue a TIF program in Grundy County. This is very important to Representative Roth and Representative Mautino. We have a tax exemption issue that's come up with the Department of Revenue for the Washington Area Community Center near the Peoria area, which is very important to that area. We have the income tax TIF for East St. Louis, one of the most impoverished and underdeveloped opportunities in the State of Illinois, which is very important to Representative Jackson and Senator Clayborne which is included in here. Statewide we have more resources going into the LUST Fund with EVA having the ability to use project labor agreements similar to what the… the Capital Development Board does where appropriate. And again, statewide we have the 09800067.doc 179  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 farmland assessment which is vital to downstate farmers that this assessment program continue so that we can continue to feed the rest of the world. For northeastern Illinois, there's the Rosemont Convention Center which doesn't cost the state any money but which allows them to have greater flexibility in the spending of moneys already received. We have the municipal McPier issue, which allows them to develop the construction of a DePaul arena, acquisition of land, changes for audits. Again, no specific cost to the state, allowing them greater flexibility for funds and for bonding authority that is already there which is their first and primary responsibility. We have a Brownfield Redevelopment for the City of Chicago. And we have a TIF District for the west side of the City of Chicago. Again, statewide we have the enterprise zone trailer Bill. Last year we worked together in a bipartisan manner to reform the ways in which we do enterprise zones. There's cleanup that was needed to be done with this and a trailer Bill that was needed for this. And as a result of a year's of being smarter and learning more about this, we now know that this needs to be done. And then finally, and something that's been around for a very long time and is an attempt at a compromise on this issue, is to give the Illinois Department of Transportation to enter into public- private partnerships similar to the successful Illiana project for the third airport in Peotone. And so, again, this is a statewide Bill. There's pieces of this that certain areas like; there's pieces of this that certain areas of the state don't like. But again, I think that 09800067.doc 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 overall this is hopefully a balanced Economic Development Act which will create jobs and economic opportunities throughout the state. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Brown."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I just have one question. Representative, I see that the Illinois Petroleum Council is an opponent. Can you just tell me why?"

"I assume it's over the LUST Fund."

"Pardon?"

"I… I have met with them and am trying to address some of their concerns, but I assume it's over the LUST Fund."

"They are still opposed and you're trying to address their concerns?"

"Yeah, yeah, they're opposed. They're going to be opposed to it, but I think that their concerns are workable. But I wouldn't say that they'll ever reach the point of not being opposed to the change to the LUST Fund."

"Can you share what their concerns are?"

"The PLA's."

"Pardon?"

"PLAs, Project Labor Agreements."

"Oh."

"It's a policy difference. Yeah."

"Okay. Thank you very much."

"Representative Bill Mitchell." Mitchell, B.: "Thank… thank you, Speaker. To the Bill. First of all, I would like to thank the chairman of the Revenue 09800067.doc 182  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Committee, I think you've done a very, very good job. Thank the… one of the Sponsors, Representative Adam Brown. He's worked very, very hard for his district on this… this issue. I think the… Representative Brown said, this is vitally important for central Illinois. Do we… do I like everything in this Bill? No. But this is a district, this is a county right next to my district that's going to provide up to 2 thousand jobs. I was reading a… a statistic this morning in one of the national newspapers, the percent… listen to this folks, the percentage of Americans with a job is at its lowest level in 34 years. The workforce is down because people don't have work. This is a very important to Representative Brown's district, to my district. It gives work, construction, as well as permanent jobs. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And let me just address the Bill for a few moments. You know, Repre… the Gentleman who needs… on our side of the aisle who needs the fertilizer plant had a very responsible Bill, House Bill 2496, and he had that early in the session. And we amended that Bill to include the Chicago Port Authority, the forgiveness of the Chicago Port Authority loan as something which the chairman of the House Revenue Committee wanted to put on the Bill. And we put it on the Bill. And we could have passed that Bill a month and a half ago. A month and a half ago. But you know, no, we don’t want to pass it too early because we want to load up a Christmas tree Bill with everything that is in Senate Bill 20. Load it up. We could 09800067.doc 183  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 have done it, we could have taken care of his issue, we could have taken care of the Chicago Port issue which, oh, by the way, the Chicago Port issue isn't even in this Bill. But we could have taken care of those issues a month and a half ago, but no, we saved the Bill for the very last end. Well, let's look at what's in this Bill, this 373-page Bill that we got about three and a half or four hours ago, just so that you know what you're voting on. And there's goodies in here for everybody, but you need to know what you're voting on. We talked about the fertilizer plant, the McPier Expansion Bill. You know, that's probably… there's probably a reasonable inclusion here because they're not really asking for dollars from us. They're simply asking for authority to use some dollars that they already have from their TIF's. But you know, we never held a committee hearing on the Bill other than subject matter only, just to briefly describe it. Similarly, with the Rosemont Convention Center. The Rosemont Convention Center came to us in a subject matter only hearing and said, we want to use the money from the convention that… that you give us from the Convention and Visitors Bureau to backup state bonds. Well, we're not doing that. Instead, we're allowing them to go for bonding backed by the state's portion of sales tax revenue generated at the new fashion outlets. Now, most of you have probably not been to Rosemont, but what they have done up there is outstanding, outstanding. It would have only been capped if they had gotten the Cubs, but they're getting premium retail outlets that it's estimated is going to generate as much as 300 million 09800067.doc 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 dollars in retail sales generating perhaps 20 to 25 million dollars' worth of sales tax for the State of Illinois. Hey, that's a great deal. But you know what, I've got Schaumburg in my area with Woodfield Shopping Center. Some of you have shopping centers in your area, what about Oakbrook or Old Orchard or those other great shopping centers that ring Chicago? Do those municipalities get special state treatment from the sales taxes that are generated from their sales taxes to back state… to back the bonds that they want to issue? They sure don't. The farmland assessment, we understand the farmland assessment is important. Again, simply a subject matter only hearing. Let's talk about the LUST, the Leaking Underground sales… the Leaking Underground Storage Tanks that was just referenced here earlier. Why are the Illinois Petroleum Marketer's against it? Because this is a big deal. You just don't go down to the union hall and hire a guy with a backhoe to take out an empty Leaking Underground Storage Tank. You've got to go in now with a project labor agreement, with the EPA and the EPA is not used to dealing… doing project labor agreements, you gotta go in with the EPA and do a project labor agreement to make this happen. That's not easily done, it's not quickly done. But it's still got to be done. The Brownfields Redevelopment Zone probably… may be a worthwhile project, but do we know what's really involved? It's setting up a separate governmental entity, a separate governmental board. What are the powers of that board? What's the Constitution of that board? Again, we really don't know. My point here is 09800067.doc 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 simply this, there's an awful lot in here that you don't know what you're voting about. And I want to come back for a second to Peotone. You know, when was the last time we talked about Peotone? And we're… we've suspended the Rule, a Rule which was written by the Majority Party, so that… so that quick-take, eminent domain authority, can be used in… in the Peotone area. What sorts of things are supposed to happen that this Legislature should oversee when we take quick-take? Let me just briefly read to you from the Rule that we suspended, the types of information that's supposed to be given to the chairman and the Minority Spokesman of the Executive Committee when we do quick-take. The legal description of the property, the street address of the property, the name of each State Senator and State Representative who represents the territory that is subject of the proposed taking, the dates or dates on which the state or the unit of local government contacted each State Senator and State Representative concerning the intention of the state or unit of local government to request approval of legislation by the General Assembly authorizing the state or the unit of local government to acquire the property by eminent domain using quick-take power. That's only 4 requirements, Ladies and Gentlemen and there's a list of at least 10 or 12 requirements. It shouldn't be done easily. It's the wrong thing to do at the end. The Gentleman deserves the… the fertilizer plant. The Lady deserves the assistance she needs in Grundy County. There's some other good thing in this Bill. But it shouldn't happen the way that it's happening, it shouldn't happen in the 09800067.doc 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 last few days… the last few hours of session. And there's a lot of things in here that I think you will probably, notwithstanding the good, a lot of things in here you're probably going to regret voting for later on. I do urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Bellock."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"No, Ma'am."

"No, Ma'am. I wouldn't be sponsoring it if it was."

"Representative Davidsmeyer."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Well, if you read carefully in the LUST Fund portion, we're going to make sure that the LUST Fund is sufficiently supported and funded. And it's not solely going to be a result of the fee and tax structure, 09800067.doc 187  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 previously. If necessary, there'll be a diversion of state sales tax to make sure that there's proper money in there. Which I think was in response to maybe a question you may have had or some others may have had in making sure that there's sufficient funds in the LUST Fund to actually do these projects."

"The… the diversion of state sales tax with regards to motor fuels."

"Yeah. It won't take revenue out of sales tax unless… if it doesn't need it. But if it's needed, it's a backstop."

"The last couple of years we've been okay. There have been situations in the past where it wasn't. There's concern by the Petroleum Marketers as to the cost of PLA associated with having to hire an attorney to do the PLA for them. And when the process of… of… we've had discussions and I hope that that issue can be worked through beyond the general policy concerns over extending PLA's to the LUST Fund."

"No. I've had enough of that with the LUST Fund. I think that's coming back to us, so we can debate that maybe later today or tomorrow."

"Representative Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I… I would hope that certainly a lot of the measures in this Bill that benefit my area aren't deemed to be horrible. They're tremendous parts of a big economic development package and they're all important. I remember when I came down here in 2007 there was a Gentleman, good friend on the other side of the aisle, that was lobbying me for some development that was… that was going on in their district. And I told that person that I would always be… it would be a very rare time that I'd ever be against anyone's economic development efforts anywhere in this state. I spoke before a few months ago when we were talking about some of the facility closings that were going on all over the state and how I railed against them. It was important to me as I went all over this state talking to residents to be sure that economic development took place all over the state and especially in central and southern Illinois to the greatest extent possible. I support all of these measures cause I believe that economic development anywhere benefits us all, all over the state, certainly with regard to the Peotone 09800067.doc 189  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Airport. And I've worked on airport issues as a planner for 30 years. This is going to do a lot just, you know, for economic development in that area, but it's going to do a lot for safety of the skies above the south suburbs… well, really above the entire flight path in Chicago, Illinois. This is a good Bill. You know, we never have a Bill that… that's perfect. But this is an extremely good Bill that touches a lot of people. And I would hope that you would join me in voting 'aye'. Thank you."

"Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of the Gentleman's legislation. There are two items which are very important to a lot of us downstate and I'd like to just quickly highlight the farmland assessment side. As the way that we properly assess farmland gets farther and farther apart, some of you in this room, whether you knew it or not, were facing 2000 percent increases in the assessment structure and there was just a great disparity between upstate and downstate. So, as that grew further apart, there was a risk of that failing, so it's a very important piece for all of us downstate. This gives us a little bit of breathing room; we can work out the solution for it. So, we have the next three years to get through that without having an adverse impact on your farmland properties in both the north… northern part of Illinois as well as the southern. Another part, that in my region, we've been very fortunate in Grundy County, it has been a great economic engine, there has been great growth. And because of a decision made about 09800067.doc 190  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 40 years ago on the amity tax structure, they have become at a… they've come to a competitive disadvantage for the areas around them, not only locally but on a state level. This language will allow them to continue their economic development district and be competitive. They have a number of very large-, small- and medium-size projects that are interested and this will greatly help them. So I commend the Sponsor and support the legislation. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Rosenthal."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Well, again, we had a meeting earlier with Petroleum Marketers and we'll try to… try to get a quick determination in terms of making sure that those prevailing wage rates are updated so that there's proper reimbursement on this fund."

"I… I think the way that it's going to be… try to be worked and I don't want to make a complete commitment because I don't believe that I have the expertise on this that you do, Representative Rosenthal…"

"But the Pollution Control Board needs to update their numbers. And so, that's the route that's going to be looked at to try to do expeditiously."

"Again, that's an issue that's come up and an issue that I believe would be reimbursable. There's a question about attorneys' fees and that's something, again, that we hopefully can work through in an expeditious manner." 09800067.doc 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"I think that can be…"

"I think that can be handled by Rules and by a process that doesn't require legislation or we're going to try to… to work through that."

"Well, my understanding is that the Environmental Protection Agency will use the same process that the Capital Development Board uses for project labor agreements that it oversees."

"Representative Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I've been here for about one year and a lot of my colleagues have told me to watch what goes on, learn what's happening here and listen. For the last year, I've been listening to jobs. We need jobs. We need economic development. We put a Bill here today that is going to address those concerns. We're going to create jobs in Illinois. The south suburban airport alone, construction jobs 11,400. After its construction in its first year, 4500 jobs. After 15 years, 14,000 jobs. This is to go along with the Illiana Expressway that's 09800067.doc 193  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 coming into that area also. That's a billion dollars of investment in the airport, a billion dollars of investment in the Illiana Expressway, huge, huge job creation. This Bill… this Bill throughout the whole State of Illinois, not only for farmers, for southern Illinois, for Chicago, for the southlands this is the economic development that I've been hearing we need to do. I strongly… strongly urge everyone of my colleagues to please vote 'yes' on this Bill. Thank you."

"Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill affects my district. Many people will have an opportunity for a job. Just to let you know, Decatur has almost 14 percent unemployment and it is desperately needed. I appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I want to speak specifically to the portion of this Bill that pertains directly to my district which is the MPA Project. This is potentially a very exciting development, one that could be a gateway to the near south side that could create up to 10,000 temporary jobs in construction and around 3700 permanent jobs in hospitality and other industries. Now, there's more that needs to be done to ensure that those numbers hold up, certainly more to be done to ensure that those benefits accrue south of the Stevenson Expressway. It is my expectation and I know the expectation of the local aldermen that this project will meet and exceed 25, 5 MWBE requirements, not just in terms of construction but also in 09800067.doc 194  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 terms of professional services, bond deals, architects, engineers, et cetera, that there'll be consideration of capacity building opportunities for smaller and midsize businesses including possible joint ventures and sourcing of local vendors for supplies and services. And what is even more exciting, potentially, is… is an ongoing commitment from the city to explain throughout this process how this anchor project becomes the beginning of development in the Bronze Ville area, which has such a rich history in arts and in… so much potential in capacity. There remains significant local community concern about the project, which I know the city's been working on. There was a meeting a couple of days ago with the prairie district. The city and MPA have committed to see those debates out to their end and will continue to work with myself, the aldermen and other stakeholders. All we are doing with this Bill by extending the TIF District, as well as expanding MPA's authority, is to allow the debate to continue at the local level. This could potentially be a very good thing for my district, the City of Chicago and the state. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Sosnowski."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I… not surprisingly I haven't been around that issue to the extent to address that say to the degree of my Representative Riley or someone like that could address that issue. But my understanding is, is this gives IDOT the ability to build upon whatever has already taken place there and take a different approach through a public- private partnership similar to what happened with the Illiana Expressway. And so, this Bill would give them the ability to do a public-private partnership, which I believe is new to this proposal and to build upon the efforts that have already been done in that area in previous Legislatures."

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"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I'd like to follow up on some of Mr. Sosnowski's comments. John, have… have any airlines committed to Peotone?"

"I'm not aware of any."

"Do we know if we have actually asked for it?"

"I don't know the answer to that, Representative."

"Do we have any economic numbers for the return on the investment? If we're going to be spending billions of dollars there? Do we have any idea what we expect to return?"

"Representative, I don't have that answer, and as a caveat to that, let me just say this, 'cause you know that I don't… I'm not from that area of the state this is a statewide economic development package. The thing that binds this thing together is economic development for the entire state. It's about creating jobs and economic development. I am relying on the Legislators from the particular areas of the state to make determinations with regards to these different area-specific projects, doing that in the case of the south suburban airport. So while they're not the Sponsors…"

"Well, I…"

"…I would suggest a conversation with them about what they think are the merits of those reports"

"Well no, I understand that and I appreciate that, but I also want to make sure this is being vetted because I think the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for some of 09800067.doc 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 these things. And I… certainly I like the mayor's idea for the McCormick Place, the Metropolitan Pier and Exposition Authority, but my question is, if for some reason these bonds aren't paid because for whatever reason, the… the team isn't very good and nobody shows up or they overbilled the hotel, if these bonds aren’t paid will the state be on the hook to pay these bonds?"

"Well, Representative, we're not changing the bonding authority. We're changing what the bonding authority could be spent on or the use of that. So, as you know… as you know, the primary source are through the collection of taxes which were previously authorized by the General Assembly but which are local in nature."

"Of course."

"And so, there is a backstop on down the road, on down the line, if the other sources of revenue fall apart."

"So… so, I think the state would be not the primary obligor, but we'd be…"

"It's… we're down the road and I don't know if you would characterize it where down the road, but we're down the road in terms of there are other sources of revenue that were the result of legislative action and Governor's signature but which are collected on a local basis."

"Okay. I appreciate… I appreciate what the Gentleman's doing. And I think everyone here is for economic development. The question is, how do we get there? This happens every year. We have a Bill like this that comes at the end that isn't necessarily vetted. We haven't had a chance to look at the numbers. I think it's a problem with 09800067.doc 199  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 the process. But I think fundamentally, if we're looking to help grow jobs and to help grow businesses in the state, there's a few other things we ought to be doing. The first thing we ought to do is stop the overregulation of our businesses. The second thing we ought to be doing is to pay our bills and to pay our vendors on time and to pass balanced budgets that pay back our bills instead of expanding to new programs. The most important thing that we could do is to pass comprehensive pension reform because that is what scares most employers and people who want to come to the state. And we also need to come up with a plan so we can have our tax increase expire. So, until we do those things, we're just… this is sort of window dressing where we're picking winners and losers. We need to have a more comprehensive plan that affects every taxpayer in the State of Illinois, not just some of the chosen few. I'm concerned on the scope of this… this Bill; I think there's a lot of good things in here, but I also think there are things that would not and could not and should not pass on their own. And that's why they've been put into this Bill to try to cover that up. I've got a problem with that; I've got a problem with the process. I've got a problem that we haven't passed the pension reform that should have been the most important issue; it is the most important issue and should have been dealt with to the exclusion of everything else but it seems to be put on the back burner. For that reason, I'll be voting 'no' and encourage you to do the same."

"Representative Will Davis." 09800067.doc 200  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Due to the lateness of the hour, I will certainly be brief. I want to thank the Gentleman for bringing this Bill forward. And one of the previous speakers from the other side of the aisle asked why is the third airport necessary. Well, if he would like to read the reports from the FAA that says that it is necessary because there is a need for additional capacity in the Chicago Metropolitan area, despite the expansion of O'Hare, despite all the other small regional airports, this airport will be built in a way that it will be able to accommodate the additional capacity that's needed well into the future. So, again, if he would like to be briefed on the entire project where we can lay this out for him be more than happy to do so. That's why we need to have that third airport. Oh, by the way, thousands of jobs will be created and economic development will take place in a region that has sorely not received the… the type of state support to make these kinds of things happen. So we are on the precipice, if I can use that word, of making this a reality. So I do encourage all of you to support this Bill. And then secondly, I represent the south suburbs. Another fantastic piece of this Bill will be the Brownfields Redevelopment and Intermodal… Intermodal Promotion Act that will use a net… a couple of natural assets that we have in the south suburbs. In my district, I have four class 1 rail yards including Canadian National and Union Pacific. They will be able to use what's generated by this Act to help grow and develop two fantastic intermodal rail yards. Canadian National could have very easily packed up and 09800067.doc 201  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 moved to Tennessee, but they decided to stay in the south suburbs because they saw the potential and they saw what we as a Body are capable of doing in order to grow and promote business here in the State of Illinois. All I've heard from most of the other side of the aisle is that we need to create jobs in the State of Illinois. Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill creates jobs in the State of Illinois and you should all be voting 'yes'. Thank you."

"Representative Cloonen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Thank you. Yes, this is a very important Bill and the third airport is in my district and we know it brings jobs. I enjoyed the day we came to the floor and saw the word, jobs, jobs, jobs printed all over the microphones. And we know, as I said, that we're a State Representative of our district, but the one thing I have learned since being here and the one thing that has been engrained in me is that we are the Representative of the entire state. And this Bill is good for the entire state. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Ives."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield." Davis, M.: "Representative Bradley, is there only one opponent at this point?"

"One what?" Davis, M.: "I mean, is there only one person… one group in opposition to your Bill?"

"I don't know the answer to that, but so far it sounds like that." Davis, M.: "I mean, we were… I think someone had asked about some petroleum group? Pardon?"

"You're talking about the Representative from McHenry County?" Davis, M.: "Is that one person? To the Bill, Mr. Speaker." 09800067.doc 203  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"I think so." Davis, M.: "For… for a very long time and for many years we keep hearing that this is going to bring jobs and that Bill is going to bring jobs and I am still waiting in Chicago for this to happen. We really do see lots of people with jobs, but we see very few people of color with these jobs we're talking about bringing to Chicago. But because you're going to do a stadium for DePaul University, we're going to do an expansion of McCormick Place, because I think the mayor of the City of Chicago has a number of ideas to perhaps give jobs to all the people in the City of Chicago. Surely, if we build a third airport and we're building all the way out to Peotone, you'll have to skip over African- American people to get to some of the jobs. So, hopefully, this time, we really will benefit and get some of these jobs. I do believe that expanding the TIFs for many areas will help them out and it'll be a benefit to their communities. When we become truly business oriented, when we become really the kind of people who understand what it takes to bring dollars to the State of Illinois, then we will be voting of these kinds of issues. Because I believe that Peotone Airport will bring jobs that the area itself, it's almost a transportation Mecca with Olive Harvey College at 103rd, it should bring a lot of trucking… delivery jobs and it should be a lot of building jobs and hopefully will be a lot of service jobs in the hotel and the DePaul University Stadium. I rise in support of this legislation and I hope it passes on the first vote. Thank you." 09800067.doc 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Senger."

"Representative Dunkin."

“Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is one of those opportunities for us to do the right thing as it relates to economic development. Of course, the Bill is not perfect, neither Bill or no Bill is. This Bill's what we talk about when we run for office. It's about economic development. It speaks exactly to some of those large-scale projects that we have to… have to sometimes give some legislative legs to so it can come into fruition in relatively short order. When you go through this Bill, there is something in here for everybody, all across the state as it relates to putting people to work. And sometimes we have to make tough decisions, but this legislation doesn't necessarily need that. It's an opportunity for us to start breaking ground, for us to start engaging businesses that deals anywhere from new construction to tourism attraction to rejustifying the areas in the City of Chicago in part of my district, all the way downstate. This is something that we can all feel 09800067.doc 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013 good about, that our constituents will give us another healthy level of respect for doing the right thing and helping to move the economic pendulum in the direction that we need it to go in. So, I would encourage all of us to look at some of these… these… these wonderful measures that really just boist… boost our economy in various regions of the state and vote 'aye'. Thank you."

"Representative Bradley to close."

"In the words of the great professional wrestler, Rick Flair, I don't have to do it, they're doing it for me. No one got that. Anyway. So, this is about economic development. It's about economic development. It's about economic development. It's about economic development. It's about the whole state; it's about a comprehensive program. It's about helping every area of the state. It's about economic development. It's about jobs. It's about jobs. It's about jobs. It's about jobs. Vote 'aye'."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 20 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 81 voting 'yes', 35 voting 'no' and 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 20, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed." Representative Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move to suspend the posting notice requirements so that Senate Joint Resolution 32 may be heard in Elementary & Secondary Education tomorrow." 09800067.doc 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

Speaker Turner: "The Lady moves, seeing no objection, the Motion prevails. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Representative Currie moves that the House adopt the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, Committee announcements." 09800067.doc 207  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"Representative Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"State your point, Sir."

"I'm looking for Tasty. I can't find Tasty. I… I'm looking in my drawer and I can't find him. Does anybody know where Tasty is? I… I think that Tasty blew the coop… left the coop. I don't know if he's on the Republican side for any reason or he's looking for another home. But can you… could you return Tasty, please?"

"Representative Sacia."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"Representative Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, I object." 09800067.doc 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 67th Legislative Day 5/30/2013

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Representative Currie moves that the House adjourn to Friday, May 31 at the hour of 9:30 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House is adjourned."