Illinois House Floor Debate — May 31, 2013

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Reverend Courtney Carson, who is with Antioch Missionary Baptist Church in Decatur. Reverend Carson is the guest of Representative Scherer. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Reverend Carson."

"We'll be led in the Pledge today by Representative Drury."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that not a single House Democrat is excused today."

"Mr. Bost."

"There are 118 Members here, we do have a quorum. Chair recognizes Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a very special announcement to make this morning. Many of you will know Reverend Courtney Carson without even knowing it. You were maybe involved in a part of his success. And I am so proud to share this story. As I call him Courtney, Courtney was one of a group called the Eisenhower Seven from Decatur, Illinois. Some of you in back will know this story because you were involved in his success. Reverend Jesse Jackson came, they were in jeopardy of being expelled, it's a very long story. But success rose from that. Courtney is very athletic and ended up going to college on a track scholarship. He is now a college graduate and a minister who was almost expelled 09800068.docx 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 from high school. And he proudly shares his story and is a motivation and inspiration to many others. So, I'll bring him around and introduce him to those of you who were involved with this many years ago. So, that little kid grew up to be a fine young man. Congratulations."

"Thank you for being with us today. Mr. Harms."

"Please proceed."

"Welcome to the Illinois House. Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, wanted to rise and commend Reverend Cory. Illinois had a law a few years ago that said if a student was expelled, he could not attend any other school or he had to be out for a year or two. But if Cory had been expelled, he would have been too old to go back to high school and he would not have been allowed to graduate. Reverend Jesse Louis Jackson from Rainbow PUSH Operation and many from Chicago took buses to Decatur, talked to the ministers there, and prayed and preached and helped save many of those young people. I think it was seven of them. And today, this is an example of what good adult mentoring and caring can do. God bless you, Reverend Cory. We're proud of you and your success."

"Representative Tabares." 09800068.docx 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, tomorrow is June 1 and it's also the birthday of my issues staff, Lisbeth Ramirez, who is on the floor. Tomorrow's her birthday and just want to wish her a happy birthday. She does a very good job and works very hard. So…"

"Mr. Clerk."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, on page 5 of the Calendar, under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1756, Representative Willis. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is very similar to one that we passed earlier this year which was a House Bill, 2250. Basically, what we are doing is we are adding electronic cigarettes or nico… alternate… alternate… alternative nicotine products to the Tobacco Code. Prior to the introduction of these electronic cigarettes, there was no guidelines on minors being able to purchase them. So, really, these are nicotine delivering devices and minors should not be purchasing them, so we are adding them to the Tobacco Code. I request an 'aye' vote. And I'm willing to take any questions. Thank you."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1341, Mr. Welch. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1341 is an initiative of the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. This Bill would allow a local government defined as distressed by administrative rule to be eligible for funding assistance up to 90 percent instead of the 50 percent which is normal if it is awarded an Open Space Lands Acquisition and Development Grant. These grants would only top out at 10 percent of the total amount for any given year. I asked the Department of Natural Resources to provide a list of communities that would be impacted by this. And there are communities up and down the state, Democratic communities, Republican communities. This is a bipartisan Bill with support on both sides of the aisle. I ask my colleagues to vote 'aye' in favor of Senate Bill 1341."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Simply, to the Bill. I certainly want to commend Representative Welch in terms of what he's doing. Park districts are one of the things that we all support down here in Springfield. And one of the opportunities that they have is they can apply for OSLAD grants. And prior to this legislation, OSLAD grants were, essentially, a reimbursement program to the park districts 09800068.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 where they were required to spend all of the money upfront and then they were reimbursed 50… 50 percent of their expenses, which is great because obviously it's a 50-50 program. But what many park districts are experiencing is because they don’t have the resources that other park districts, they don't have the tax base feeding into them as other park districts throughout the state, is that many park districts are, unfortunately, unable to receive these resources. And they will apply for a grant, they will receive the grant, but because they don’t have the ability to fund that grant 100 percent on the front end, they, unfortunately, have to forgo these grant opportunities. And I think what the Representative is trying to do is trying to recognize that we have some challenging challenges with some of our park districts and try to create a better way of doing that for them, so that they can receive more of the resources back that they may have to expend for… for their particular park district. So, I think this is a fastic… fantastic Bill that he has brought forward. And I encourage everyone to support his legislation. Thank you."

"Mr. Sosnowski."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, thank you for your question. I think it's a very good question. I have provided all of the colleagues that had had similar concerns a list of the communities that are on the list currently. And you're correct that Rockford is not currently on the list. But the list can always change based on the definition that’s set out in the administrative rules with the Department of Natural Resources. As we discussed earlier in the week, even my communities are not on the list, and I'd love to show you the park district in the Village of Maywood. It certainly should be on the list. The Village of Broadview is not on the list. There's a number of communities in my very own district that are not on this list. I don't have one single community on this list. But there's communities throughout the state, Republican and Democratic communities, that are on this list and that can benefit from this award. There are two definitions in this Bill. One, is it can be economically distressed and that's in two parts. You have metropolitan communities and the non-metropolitan communities. And you also have physically distressed communities, communities that have been hit by some catastrophic event. The goal is to try to be as inclusive as possible. They can always look at these rules and… and tweak them. But if you look at the current list, it's a very inclusive list that helps communities throughout the state." 09800068.docx 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Well, let me… let me first make it clear that no community is excluded from applying for an OSLAD grant. Those that are not on the list can still qualify for an OSLAD grant at the 50 percent reimbursement. Those that meet economically distressed or physically distressed definition would qualify for the 90 percent reimbursement. Currently, the… the definition is based on the EAV, the percent of the population below poverty, and have they received less than the fair share of OSLAD assistance. So, if your park districts, Representative Sosnowski, have not received their fair share, or any for that matter, that is a factor that will certainly be taken into consideration."

"Mr. Welch to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think Senate Bill 1341 is a very good piece of legislation. It's a piece of legislation that helps communities all over the state, from Cairo to Chicago, from Macomb to… all across the state. I ask the General Assembly to vote 'aye'. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Cavaletto, Dunkin, Meier, Sullivan, Unes. Mr. Meier, Mr. Sullivan. Please take the record. On this question, there 93 voting 'yes', 25 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1280, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill." 09800068.docx 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an initiative of the Cook County Public Guardian. Right now, they have some trouble with out… getting information from outside parties and this would give them greater enforcement tools to get that information in… in the performance of their duties."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cabello, Schmitz. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Drury."

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"I'm looking at the Roll Call for SB 20 from last night, and I thought was recorded as a 'no', it shows a 'yes'. I'd like the record to reflect that I was a 'no' on that Bill."

"The record will so reflect, Sir. On the Order of Senate Bills-Third Reading. Senate Bill 2381, Mr. Sandack. Please read the Bill." 09800068.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Mr. Sandack."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mautino. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 09800068.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, please read Senate Bill 2243, Leader Currie."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. Can we adopt the Amendment, and then I'll describe the Bill on Third Reading?"

Speaker Lang: "Seeing no objection, those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. The Bill, as amended, does two things. First, it provides that the members of publicly traded corporations, there will be a limit on the number of officers who need to sign certain documents in the Department of Revenue, and the material will include the last four digits of their Social Security numbers. The idea is that they already are required to do substantial filings under Sarbanes-Oxley so that a whole lot of additional information is not necessary. Second, this would affect a lawsuit that makes it possible for the sale of gas… I'm sorry, electricity in the State of Illinois to be subject to the 09800068.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 sales tax. So, I would appreciate your support for passage of Senate Bill 2243. I am aware of no opposition."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. To… to the Bill. Senate Amendment #2, which the Lady just put on the Bill, was one which, I think, there has been some confusion on in terms of whether or not various groups or industries are opposed. I have checked with the… both the associations as well as the individual industries that deal with electric power generation. They are either neutral or in support of the Bill. The Lady was correct, it deals with a… a court decision as to whether or not electricity should be considered tangible personal property. Clearly, it is not, and we don't want to let it be considered tangible personal property because there are… there are consequences down the line which none of us would like if that were the case. So, again, there is no opposition that we know of to the Bill nor to Senate Amendment 2. And I encourage a 'yes' vote."

"Mr. Bost."

"Lady yields."

"No, no, no. We don't. We don't expect the tax to be raised. What we're trying to do is avoid a situation where we might… might find ourselves required to impose sales taxes on this material if we continue to treat it as tangible personal property. So, we may not have any choice. If this is tangible personal property then the sales tax would apply. And I don't 09800068.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 think you want your constituents to have to pay sales taxes on the electricity they use to heat their homes and… and pow… power their ovens."

"No."

"So, that's exactly right. I think the court decision was a surprise to everybody, and the consequences of that decision could include requiring a sales tax on the production of this energy use. And I think we don't want to do that. And I believe that is why the affected industries are either for the Bill or neutral."

"As far as I know, there is no opposition."

"Well, there…"

"There had been… yeah. In fact, there had been a Bill introduced by Representative John Bradley, the Chair of the House Revenue Committee, but at the point at which that Bill was introduced, there was opposition. There is no longer any opposition, so his Bill didn't move because of opposition. But this Bill should move because there is now agreement that this is a smart thing to do." 09800068.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Majority Leader yield?"

"Lady yields."

"Representative, I had met with the Department of Revenue on this, and the fact is, if we don't pass this, isn't there some concern that taxpayers will be taxed additionally for the receipt of their energy?"

"Exactly. Because if it is tangible personal property, then it would be subject to the sales tax. And for uniformity reasons, we might have no choice but to impose that sales tax. I don't think your constituents want to pay a sales tax for the energy that comes into their homes to run their furnaces and warm their ovens. So the… to avoid that prospect, I would very much encourage an 'aye' vote on Senate Bill…"

"I agree. And to the Bill. And I appreciate the Lady bringing this forward. Ladies and Gentlemen, understand a 'no' vote is a tax increase on your constituents. The correct vote here is to vote 'yes', so your constituents will not be taxed for the energy they receive in their homes. Please vote 'aye'."

"Leader Currie to close."

"Please vote 'yes'."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brauer, Kay, Unes. Please take the record. On this question, there 103 voting 'yes', 15 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 09800068.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Feigenholtz."

"Thank you. I rise on a point of personal privilege. It's been brought to my attention that today, a woman who's been working in State government for over 30 years, 30 years of public service, Jeanie Ortego-Piron is retiring from the Department of Children and Family Services where she has shouldered the responsibility of being the legal guardian of all youth at… at the agency and the courts and has, in her career, protected well over 100 thousand children in the State of Illinois. I'd like to give her my hearty congratulations and gratitude and I'm sure the Body would acknowledge that."

"Thank you, Representative. Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege. It seems like this is the most appropriate time. Many of you know a good friend of mine, Rob Moon. He's getting married in July… July 20. So, if you see Rob Moon, congratulate him, he's found the love of his life. He's a good friend to me and he's helped a lot of people in Springfield. So, congratulations Rob and Lisa on getting married."

"Congratulations, Rob. Moving to the Order of Concurrence. Ladies and Gentlemen, if you have a Bill on the Order of Concurrence, be at your seat, be ready. Let's move through these expeditiously. House Bill 189, Representative Cloonen. Out of the record. House Bill 948, Mr. Harris. Please proceed." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 948 is the Adult Protective Services Act. The two concurrences from the Senate regard rulemaking 09800068.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 authority and composition of fatality review teams, and also an appeal procedure for caregivers whose names may be placed on the registry. I would ask for your 'yes' vote."

"Representative Bellock."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Have all voted who wish? Smith, Sullivan. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 3 to House Bill 948. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1443, Mr. Moylan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to concur with Sen… Amendments #1, 2, and 3…"

"Please tell us what they do."

"…to House Bill 1443. Thank you."

"Please tell us what they do, Sir, briefly."

"They… there's some language change, and they gut the first Bill and they correct some things that the House… the Senate sent over."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 09800068.docx 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Cassidy. Please take the record. On this question, 118 voting 'yes'; 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1, 2, and 3 to House Bill 1443. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2250, Representative Willis. Out of the record. Just as a reminder, Members. This is probably the last time we're going through these concurrences. House Bill 2311, Mr. Beiser. Out of the record. House Bill 2408, Mr. Costello, please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I wish to concur with Senate Amendment 3 to House Bill 2408. Last year, CMS was mandated to contract with a third party to manage the state's workers compensation claims. This language allows that. This is the same method used for a long time to fund the payments of health care claims under the group insurance program. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes'; and 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 2408. And this Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2423, Representative Davis, please proceed." Davis, W.: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2423. This is…"

"Excuse me, Sir. This is going to come out of the record right now, I'm sorry. House Bill 2720, Mr. Rita. Out of the record. House Bill 2753, Representative Gabel." 09800068.docx 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur…"

"Out of the record. House Bill 2764, Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment 3 to House Bill 2764. The Senate kept my language to eliminate a fee that businesses must pay to display signs along the Interstate highways and to eliminate the need for costly enforcement system. The Amendment adds language to help reduce a backlog of signed permits in the City of Chicago. I ask for your favorable consideration and I'm open to any questions."

"Mr. Fortner."

"Lady yields."

"Yes, Representative. This is all been cleared with… with IDOT."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. 09800068.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Crespo, Harms, Hays, Kifowit, Sims. Mr. Sims. Please take the record. On this question, 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment… Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 2764. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2767, Representative Kifowit."

"Thank you, Members of the House. This Senate Floor Amendment does not change the underlying Bill. It's related to a provision dealing with the Chicago Teachers' Pension Fund. There's no opposition to it. It's just cleanup language, and it's mostly technical in nature. And I ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes'; 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2767. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2777, Mr. Moffitt."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes'; 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2777. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2955, Mr. Drury. Mr. Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2955, I move to con… I'd move to concur. Basically, the Office of Management and Budgets request we extended the time they have to publish the online budget from 30 days to 60 days."

"Out of the record. Sorry, Mr. Drury. House Bill 3006. Sorry, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 3035, Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment #6. It amends the Engrossed Bill and allows IEMA to deposit money received from donations or sponsorships in the Emergency Planning and Training Fund. Those funds would be subject to appropriation and will effectuate planning and training activities. It also makes permissive the appropriation of the Emergency Planning and Training Fund for activities concerning Disaster Relief Act and the Federal Act."

"Those…"

"I urge an 'aye' vote." 09800068.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? McAuliffe, Turner, Welch. McAuliffe. Please take the record. There are 118 'yes'; 0 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #6 to House Bill 3035. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3120, Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3120. As the Bill went over, it had a land transfer for the Department of Natural Resources and in this land swap, the state received additional value… $1,200 hundred of additional value over the price of the price of land they were swapping. Second item in the Bill, which the Senate added in, was the… was a transfer of a road for one dollar through a municipal agreement in Oquawka Township in Henderson County. And the… the township is going to take over the road for public purposes. Know of no opposition. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Burke, Franks. Please take the record. On this question, 116 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3125, Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you. I move that the House concur with Senate Amendment 3 to House Bill 3125. This is the work product of the agreed Bill process for unemployment insurance. The folks participating in it and in favor of it are the labor and 09800068.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 management groups that are throughout the State of Illinois. It makes three changes. It'll authorize electronic payments of unemployment… of UL. And it authorizes IDES to establish rule-making to mandate those payment of UI taxes. It also prescribes a penalty where employer pays by check, but it provides an opt-out for the employers not represented by large payroll services. It eliminates the requirements for employers to estimate monthly wages on new hire reports. It clarifies that IDES can accept electronic mailing receipts as proof of service. And a final item providing for that filing a fraudulent UI return will constitute a Class 4 felony. If the UI taxes owed are less than $300, will be a Class 3 felony. This is, as I said, a product of the agreed Bill process. Be happy to answer any questions. And I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Durkin. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #3 to House Bill 3125. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Turner on a Motion to nonconcur with House Bill 3006."

"Mr. Speaker, I move to nonconcur with Amendments 3 and 4 to House Bill 3006."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted. And the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendments 3 and 4 to House Bill 3006. Under the Order of Senate Bills-Third 09800068.docx 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Reading, there appears Senate Bill 2556. Let's… let's take that out of the record. Senate Bill 2555, Representative Will Davis. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. What you have before you is the K through 12 education budget for FY14. I would like to say before we get into the meat and potatoes of this that I'm very pleased at the work product that came out of the committee. I especially want to thank Representative Dunkin, the Chairman of the Higher Education Appropriations Committee, Representative Crespo, Chairman of the General Services Appropriation Committee, as well as Representative Mautino, and you'll understand why just shortly with regard to that. But the education budget this year was, indeed, very challenged. Under the initial walk through of the budget, there was some significant reductions that would've otherwise had to be made, but in our work groups we talked about what our priorities would and/or could be for… for this budget which included maintaining the 89 percent proration of general state aid. It also included keeping early childhood education flat. Also, included… thank you. Also, included keeping school transportation flat among other priorities. And I'm proud to say that we accomplished all of those things. It took additional revenue for us to get there, which is why I thanked all of the previous Gentlemen, because it did take some additional revenue for us to get here. I've always 09800068.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 maintained that in order for us not to have make drastic decisions in a K through 12 budget that we need revenue. And I… I'm glad that… that that statement resonated with many Members here in the fact that additional revenue was provided. And as a result, priorities that were advocated for on both sides of the aisle were, indeed, maintained. With that being said, I'll be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Mautino is recognized."

"Thank you. And Representative Pritchard, as we had talked about, I wanted to first of all commend the Chairman, Will Davis. Through his allocations the Ag and Education Fund had been brought from 1.8 million down to 750 thousand. He worked very well with Representative McAsey, brought that up to a million two. That, for a small line, is still a pretty heavy cut. So about a week ago, he came to me and asked me about two separate funds. One is the Downstate Transit, the other is called the Transportation Investment Fund, and in that fund is about $45 million, of which not all that money is allocated. That is the money for purchasing of… of transportation vehicles for paratransit. So, there was an allocation there, and it consistently refills itself, that's 09800068.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 the way that fund works. And so, in talking with the Governor's Office and with Representative Davis, you and I had discussed it, for that line item we used, and it's in Section 40 of the budget, $550 thousand which will allow flat funding for Ag education throughout the whole state. But predominantly, that is how we pay our teachers of the high school Ag Education Program. Thanks."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, congratulations on the budget. You may have one of the most important budgets in the General Assembly. Can I ask you, one, how does this Bill improve on last year's approp Bill?" Davis, W.: "Well, I think one way it does is that one of the overall challenges in… in our Bill was general state aid. General state aid is the most flexible spending pot of money that a school district has. So even when we're talking about making adjustments to a variety of the smaller grant lines, if that school deemed that that grant line or what would… what that grant would do is important, they can use their general state aid dollars to help bring that program into the 09800068.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 school. So, to answer your question, how does this overall improve, we were able to find the resources to keep the proration of general state aid at least flat from last year in addition to a few other priorities, again, that include school bus transportation, which may not necessarily impact Chicago as much, but certainly all other districts throughout the state, early childhood education, which is something that we all talked about. Spending for that was maintained at last year's level. And with the additional resources that we received, we were able to even maintain bilingual education, something that impacts a lot of our districts at a spending level as the same as last year. So… so, to answer your question, I think, again, the fact that we're able to maintain the level of spending from last in… in several of these lines is how we're helping to improve education in the state versus less resources which will require districts to make very tough choices."

"And I'll come back to the bilingual education. Is there… have you figured out a way of how we can better fund education, being the appropriation chair of education?" Davis, W.: "Well, having been here for 10 years, one way that we were thinking about it doing it, is that was, we passed an income tax increase a couple of years ago with the idea of possibly using a lot of that money to help shore up education, but also, at the same time, looking how to reduce the burden of funding schools on… on property tax. So, that was one big conversation that we had for a number of years in order to try to do it. But I will say moving forward, and a previous speaker mentioned Senate Joint Resolution 32, which will be 09800068.docx 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 an opportunity for us to, in official manner, come together to really look at how we distribute the dollars… the state dollars that we have. That may not be able to impact local resources and how those dollars are distributed, but in terms of the state's resources and also living up to the state's responsibility of being able to primarily be the funder of schools in Illinois, hopefully that conversation that will come from that Resolution will help us to better answer your question."

"And you feel this budget is for all of Illinois and everyone should benefit from it, correct?" Davis, W.: "Well, absolutely. I mean this is the budget that funds schools throughout the entire State of Illinois."

"Is there a line item in your budget for a high school for the Austin community?" Davis, W.: "For the… a line item for the Austin community? When you say for a high school, this is not a capital Bill."

"I know, but it's funding education. And…" Davis, W.: "Okay. Well, to answer your question, it is no. But I would then say that this is not a capital Bill if you're talking about enhancing a high school. But presumably, through the Chicago CPS system, the high school you're speaking of should benefit from the dollars that are available to all school districts."

"So, I want to ask about the CPS. How much money is in this budget for CPS, and is there any accountability for CPS to improve upon the delivery of education for the students in the school district of 299?" 09800068.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Davis, W.: "Oh no. Hold on, Representative. I didn't quite hear the last part of your question. You said how much money goes to…"

"How much… yes… how much money is allocated? I think that people should know how much Chicago Public Schools receive out of your budget this year, out of this year's budget, and if there are any accountabilities for CPS to deliver better education and services to the students in the District 299?" Davis, W.: "Well, you… you ask… you ask for a number. I don't think I have… I don't have an overall number. The Chicago Public Schools system, through primarily many block grant opportunities, receives money from several of these… of these lines. So, they are a part of the formula spending that school districts, many… all school districts are a part of, whether they are a foundation school district, a alternative grant school district, or a flat grant school district. So CPS falls, I believe, into the foundation level school district, and so, the dollars that they receive are based on a… a formula spending, but I don't have an overall number for you."

"All right. And I thank you for the bilingual funding at… at FY13 level. What I would like to encourage you to do in the future is make sure that your budget improves upon bilingual education for all students. This state is moving in the direction where, I think, everyone should have the ability to learn Spanish as a second language in… in the State of Illinois. So I think that in the future, you should consider doing that because I believe all students should have a right to learn Spanish in the State of Illinois." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Representative." 09800068.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you very much."

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. As a downstate Democrat that voted against the education appropriations Bill last year, I want to commend the Chairman and the… and the Sponsor on what he's done. Adding monies back in to transportation is crucial to downstate education. I also am very pleased to see Ag in the classroom essentially left flat. Thank you. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. Would the Representative yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, this… I… let me first start by actually thanking the Chair and all the Members who worked very, very hard on trying to come to some sense on a very, very difficult time. This particular committee was… had to face really doing some heavy duty cuts. And at one point, Representative, would you say that we were looking and at least we had heard back from our districts that some of the districts were going to have to take up to, or getting ready to take up to an 82 percent proration rate. Was… isn't that right?" Davis, W.: "Could you repeat that? Oh. I'm told the answer to that question is yes. Under… under the… under where we were, that would have been the scenario."

"And then we had to go even further to possibly even cut early childhood by 50 million. Isn't that correct as well?" Davis, W.: "That would've been correct." 09800068.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"And then, for a… a program that I consider very important, in particular to bilingual communities, that that program was going to take a considerable cut as well. Is that correct?" Davis, W.: "Correct."

"So, it… it really is important to recognize and thank the other Chairmen from the Appropriation Committees, Representative Crespo and Representative Dunkin, for recognizing that education is definitely the way that we have to invest to keep our children in a competitive state when they… they complete their education. To the Bill. I just want to express that this was really, truly a difficult work group that… it was… it was really very difficult to face the kind of cuts that we were going to do. And if it wasn't for coming together and helping at least bring the… the lines up to… to the level. 89 percent proration rate to the districts are going to make a big difference, at least I know that in my district. They're very, very, very happy to hear that we at least maintain, although we do need a lot more work. And the hope is that that proration starts increasing little by little as… as the years move on. But I truly want to thank, once again, the Chairmen, all the committee Members, Representative Crespo, Representative Dunkin for your help. Thank you."

"Mr. Davis to close." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Let me thank the Vice Chairman of the committee for her comments. Again, we expressed our gratitude to Representatives Dunkin, Crespo, and Mautino for their additional help to help shore up the 09800068.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 education budget. And… and I also want to thank the Members on the other side of the aisle because essentially where we left our conversations, we were all struggling with some of the difficult decisions that had to be made with regard to the education budget. But I'm very proud to say that where we wound up and the budget that you have in front of you, that you're going to vote on very shortly, handles a lot of the priorities, if not all of the priorities, that all Members of this chamber wanted to see happen. Again, keeping the general state aid proration at 89 percent, keeping level transportation, keeping level early… early childhood education, keeping level bilingual education. Those were some very, very important initiatives that impact most, if not all of our districts in some way or another. So we were able to maintain that spending. And again, I've always maintained that in order for us to be able to do everything that we'd like to do with education spending, it does cost. There is a need for revenue. And the great thing about this chamber is that, whether or not we can haggle and debate over increased spending, if we want to, we can also determine that any increased spending can go for priorities that we all think they should go to, education, K through 12 education being one of them. So, again, as we continue this dialogue, let's not leave additional revenue out of the conversation, because we know that that's something that we need. Representative Pritchard indicated that we wish we could spend more for our schools. Well, we need revenue in order to be able to spend more for our schools. So, again, let's not leave additional revenue out of the conversation as we work together to make 09800068.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 sure that all of the priorities that each of us wants in education are met through our actions. I ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 71 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I would like the Body to understand that Representative Franks has a green button on his desk for a budget Bill… an appropriations Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"Could you please have the electrician come over and have my green button removed? Thank you."

"So many things to be said about that. Mr. Clerk."

"Senate Bill 2556, Mr. Dunkin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 2556 simply combines House Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 210, as well as House Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 211 as recommended to the floor by the House Higher Education Appropriations Committee a few days ago, May 28 of this year. It provides operational lines funding for universities of $1.1 billion. It represents level funding of Fiscal Year '13 across most lines. It also increases general revenue funding by $1.1 million from Fiscal Year '13. I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes, Sir."

"We continue to look at it for now. For the most part, you know, it's… it's early on."

"Gentlemen, can I interrupt you briefly? It's very noisy in the chamber. Ladies and Gentlemen… Ladies and Gentlemen. I'm just going to hold the debate 'til the chamber 09800068.docx 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 quiets down. That's much better. Please proceed, Mr. Pritchard."

"Representative, members of the committee, along with other appropriations committees, viewed the additional dollars that we had would be better spent in elementary and secondary education to help relieve some of the financial pressures at that level. We also, as you know, were very successful at keeping funding flat from last year which, originally, we were ready to cut either at five percent as proposed by the Governor even though the committee, collectively, Democrats and Republicans, agreed to a two percent reduction from last year. So, we came out with flat funding in higher education, and we were able to save elementary and secondary education."

"Representative, I just want to answer a couple of your questions. Had we moved ahead with the Governor's five percent reduction, we would've cut higher education by $91 million. Had we came up with the agreed two percent, the GOP and Democrat agreed budget, we would've reduced higher education spending by $51 million. So, for us to come out without any cuts in any state university, that was a major accomplishment."

"I would agree with you, Representative."

"Representative Hammond."

"Mr. Jones."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. You know, I don't know, in listening to my colleague, if they sat in the same committee that I did. Because it seems like they're confused about what we did in our budget and what we did in our committee, and they don't understand how a process goes with a line item or creating a budget. Or they don't understand how a process goes when creating a budget because our process last year was the same as it was this year. The only thing that they’re not seeing is that they did the same thing that they did this year that they did last year which was vote 'no'. And it seems like they want to continue to be the party of the 'no' and not realize that education is important to our communities. So, in looking at this side of the aisle taking 71 votes and this side of the aisle, 47, against a responsible budget that we all put together, they can't go back home and tell their constituents that they voted for 09800068.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 education because they voted 'no' against it and we took the hard vote. I commend Chairman Dunkin, not only for this process that we undertook, but it was also reasonable. They can say that it was pork projects all they want to, but we know the universities and colleges and also what we did with K through 12, and supporting Chairman Davis, not only helps the continuing of education but is going to make sure that we have a great education system in our community. So, it's time that the other side of the aisle fess up to them voting 'no' and go back home and look their constituents in the eye and tell them that they were not a part of this process. We had a great committee process. And hopefully next year, they agree they want to work in a higher education budget. And I… I would urge an 'aye' vote on this Bill."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Very similar to what my previous colleague just said with regard to what we will call the continuum of education. Some were dismayed at the resources that were provided from the Higher Ed Appropriations Committee to the Elementary and Secondary Education Appropriations Committee. But… but that's relative, Ladies and Gentlemen. If we're talking about the education of our children, we have to look at how that works from the beginning until the end. While we have separate committees that addresses, you know, the K through 12 side as well as the higher Ed side, but it is a continuum of education. And the more that we can do on the front end of the conversation helps as these young people progress along. That is, unless, your idea of education is paying enormous amounts of money to 09800068.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 continue to incarcerate individuals, because that's what we do when we do not invest in education. So, I'm very proud of the resources, and, again, I thank Chairman Dunkin for suggesting that we could utilize those resources to help shore up the K through 12 budget. Because, again, what's more important, paying enormous amounts of money to incarcerate someone or making the investment on the front end in early childhood, making sure our schools have adequate resources, to make sure that we are producing young people who can take our places one day, be the next whatever they want to be in society here in the State of Illinois. So, again, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have to support the continuum of education. And if that requires continuing to move resources around, particularly between two… those two budgets, then that's what we have to do because we all run on education, we all support education, so sometimes we have to put our money where our mouths are. Thank you very much."

"Mr. Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I take exception of one of the former speakers about the Western Illinois money. We have a manufacturing lab that's on the Rock Island Arsenal that is one of the largest employers in our area. It was the largest employer, now I believe it's second largest employer. This is a money well spent. The college in… in Quad City campus was funding this before. This will just be able to extend this program where these engineers work part time on that Arsenal. It's like a hands on training. And I don't know what other people think, but it's like anything else. You can only learn so much out of a book. Hands-on is an added… like icing on a 09800068.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 cake, I would say. But this… over at this lab, they're experimenting with titanium. They have… they have the most knowledgeable person in the world working with this titanium. Titanium is the future metal product for army, for all things. It's lightweight and much stronger than any other metal. This could make Western Illinois part of being on the cutting edge of the next generation of metals and stuff. We also, up in Frank Mautino's area, has a place that produces this titanium powder, but they don't have a place to manufacture it, and we have that place in the Arsenal. So, I think it was money well spent. And… and the… the Speaker said that the… the University didn't want the money, but I had a… I have a letter, over in my office from them, stating that they… they were appreciative that we got it. Thank you very much."

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Speaker. To the Bill. I just want to mention to my colleagues on the other side, I feel different from how you feel because I… I sit on the Elementary-Secondary Appropriations Committee and Higher Ed, Vice Chair to Higher Ed. And I think it was a great working relationship that we've had throughout the Session. And I'm sorry that you feel the way you do. I wish you were voting 'yes' on these Bills because we did work to… on them together. I applaud everyone here for working together because I thought it was… it was even fun 'cause, I mean, we just we really work well together. I want to commend the… the Chairman, Dunkin, for all the work that he's done. He went beyond to really try to keep everything level. I think it's going to work for all of us whether we admit it or not. Having, you know, level funding 09800068.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 is really going to help the students in the State of Illinois. The economy's so bad that some… some students can't even afford to go on to higher education. And if we didn't keep this budget level, some kids would have to drop out of school. It would be really hard on them. And, again, I applaud everyone. Again, I hope that next year it could be better in your view. But… and I'm hoping that, maybe even some of you on the other side, can also give us some 'yes' votes, because we're all going to benefit from it. So, again, Chairman Dunkin and Members of the Committee, and both sides of the aisle, I commend everybody for trying, you know, get everybody ahead. Thank you."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, Sir. That was not our charge in the committee."

"In the… in our committee. We were well along the way with… with crafting a budget that resembles no… no cos… no cuts in any state university, no cuts in any community college, no cuts in the monetary war program, no cuts in the Board of Higher Education, no cuts in any state higher institution that every single university agreed on. There was no resistance whatsoever. We actually increased higher education's budget by close to $12 million dollars. The Governor wanted to reduce it by $91 million dollars. The 09800068.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Republicans and Democrats, we agreed to cut it by less than two percent at $51 million. We actually raised it to 11.4 additional dollars of a $2 billion budget. So that was sort of what our focus was. And this is something that, really, all Members, on both sides of the aisle, can be proud of. When they go home, not one university, not one community college is going to say why did you cut my funding here, why'd you reduce us? Not one. That's what this budget is."

"Representative Tracy."

"Representative Hammond."

"Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this Bill. It's very good that our higher institutions of learning are being level funded this year. And with the message that they got earlier, that the Governor wanted to cut them by five percent, I think most of them were quite relieved if… if not pleased that they're being level funded. And when the 09800068.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 question was asked about moving money from Higher Ed to K through 12, I think that was something that, you know, at first I looked and thought oh, we're going to give away our money. And the more I thought about it, the more I thought of the demands that we've put on our higher education and all of us with… and other places when we ask for performance based funding and ask them to report to us. You know, why are students needing to have more time to graduate from higher education to get their degrees? And why are there so many remedial classes? One of the reasons for these is that we find that there are more and more students who are not prepared for our higher education courses, and so to help our K through 12 close that door of having more students get to be in Higher Ed and not be prepared, I think by transferring some of this money to K through 12 was a good move to do, even if we… it looked as though we were giving it away. We are concerned about making sure that our young people get the high quality education that they deserve. So, I urge an 'aye' vote for this Bill."

"Mr. Dunkin to close."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, Members of this House. Let me first start off by saying a heartfelt and warm appreciation from myself. A thank you to Dan Frey, a thank you to Greg Willis, a huge, gargantuous thank you to brother, Mark Jarmer. Thank you, Sir. Their efforts played a major role in crafting this budget and working with the Senators on both sides of the aisle. The House Members here in this chamber, Republicans as well, this started off at a very high level of cooperation in budget instigation for this type of higher education for all 09800068.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 of our kids. Vice Chairman, Cynthia Soto, helped lead this effort. We are not cutting any state university in this budget. We are not cutting any community college in this budget. We are increasing by almost $2 million the MAP program, the Monetary Award Program, so every student, all across this state, can get a quality education. When you educate a people, you raise a nation, and that's what this budget does. There are multiple levels of program support here. We're doing a… an incredible job because we're adding value to so many lives here in this state. We're giving everyone an opportunity who wants to be a student, from veterans to mothers and fathers who are working several jobs. This gives them an opportunity to educate themselves, so they can prepare themselves for productive employment, for business starting, for a number of ways in which we educate all the Illinoisans here who want to be educated. This is a responsible budget. This is a budget that we should all feel proud of. I would find it very difficult for anyone to vote against this budget, 'cause a vote against this is a vote against higher education. A vote against this is a vote against your own community college. Who would want to do that? This is a tremendous, tremendous value added here in our state's government. We all talk about education and what us… and what we want to do to invest in it. Here’s an opportunity to do that. I'm looking forward to working with all of my colleagues again and having their imprint on this budget. And I'm sure this is a budget that every single one of us are going to be proud of. Again, thank you staff for help crafting it alongside of us, thank you additional chairs who we worked 09800068.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 with each other, and thank you, my Democratic Members, who really played a wonderful role in taking advantage of doing the right thing at this time, in this state, in this House chamber. I would ask for an 'aye' vote. Thank you very much."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Drury. Please take the record. On this question, there 69 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to the Concurrence Calendar, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 2423, Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur on Senate Amendment #1 with House Bill 2423. Sorry, I just ate a Blow Pop from Representative Ford. I apologize."

"Sure, blame someone else, Sir. Please proceed." Davis, W.: "It's my understanding that the Amendment is technical in nature and cleared up a language change requested by the Illinois Hospital Association. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Crespo, Ives, Tryon. Mr. Tryon. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2423. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2753, Representative Gabel." 09800068.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 2753. The Amendment just stated that the state should consider the lessons learned from the advisory's council's final report. There were a number of organizations who worked with us on that advisory council who wanted it perfectly clear in the… in the language in the Bill. I appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Reboletti, Tracy. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 10 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2753. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bills-Second Reading, page 4 of the Calendar, Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 572, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for the adoption of House Floor Amendment #3. It's a gut replacement, and it clarifies… it makes technical changes to House Amendment #2."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill." 09800068.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank Speaker Madigan for allowing this Bill to be called and this task force to be set up. We spoke and he's very much in favor of moving small businesses ahead in the State of Illinois and creating a strong work force development. And so, when we spoke on Saturday, this is what we came up with, to have a task force to work on the very issue of empowering small businesses in the State of Illinois and increasing work force development, and so, that's what this task force does. And I move for the passage of Senate Bill 572, go to concurrence or whatever it's doing."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Gentleman yields."

"It's a… I think it's the most appropriate measure, in my opinion, to have the universities staff it, and they do lots of research at the university level. And I think it's appropriate to allow students and the people at the University of Illinois staff it."

"They're not in opposition of it. I've spoke with them and they're ready to go to work." 09800068.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cavaletto, Tracy. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1245, Representative Williams. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to move to table Floor Amendment #1."

"The Lady moves to table the Amendment. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is tabled. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Williams."

"Floor Amendment #2 becomes the Bill. And I'd like to advance Floor Amendment 2."

"Would you like to tell us what the Amendment does briefly."

"I'd be happy to go into more detail on Third, but the Amendment basically deals with the PSEBA benefit which is the Public Safety Employee Benefit for firefighters and law 09800068.docx 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 enforcement office… officers catastrophically injured. And the Bill basically requires a report to be issued so we can get a better understanding of the benefit, how it works and how it's impacting our state's finances."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill addresses, again, as I said when we moved the Amendment, the Public Safety Employee Benefit. And as many of you are aware, we have made many attempts to change the benefit over the years and to make sure that we get a clear picture of what the benefit does, how it works, what it's costing our municipalities. This Bill proposes to create reporting and for COGFA to issue a report and collect data as to the specifics of the benefit. It's… the language has been worked on with the Municipal League, with some of the unions, and as far as I know, there's no opposition at this time."

"Lady moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Kosel. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is 09800068.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1006, Mr. Drury. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Drury."

"We're on Floor Amendment #1, Mr. Speaker?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Sir."

"Thank you. Members, Senate Bill 1006, House Floor Amendment #1, amends the Juvenile Court Act of 1987 and the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963. And it simply adds to the list of offenses that trigger the requirement of a custodial interrogation to be electronically recorded. Working with various parties, we are rolling out these eight additional felonies over a three-year time period. Also, this Amendment cures a loophole in the current statute that currently did not allow for a full recording of a custodial interrogation. I ask that we adopt Floor Amendment #1."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Drury."

"Floor Amendment #2 is a technical change to the language on House Floor Amendment #1 and simply deals with one of the exceptions and what the state of… the state of knowledge the 09800068.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 interrogators need to have for an exception to apply. I ask for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Please hold the Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Under the Order of Resolutions appears House Resolution 383, Mr. Brady. Please proceed, Sir."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Resolution will vote… will say 'aye'; opposed… those in favor will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Mitchell. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 389, Mr. Bradley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the update to the House Revenue estimates. We had discussed this previously due to testimony by COGFA, Department of Revenue, Office of Management and Budget. The House Revenue and Finance Committee in a, unfortunately, partisan manner chose to raise the revenue estimates by $365 million to take into account 09800068.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 changes in the tax refund rate and the surplus in the taxed… income tax refund account. I would ask for passage."

"Mr. McSweeney."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you… thank you, Mr. Speaker. And as a former soldier, I'm glad he corrected himself. Oh, except for the sold… sailor over here. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, what are we doing here now? Huh? We’re raising the revenue estimate. Why are we raising the revenue estimate? Because we've already spent the money. It's already spent. Ladies and Gentlemen, seriously, let's look at the wording of this Resolution for just a second, because what we're saying is this Resolution raises our revenue estimate. The testimony in committee from the Illinois Department of Revenue, from the Governor's Office of Management and Budget, from COGFA did not raise the revenue estimate for FY '14. It simply said 09800068.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 that we have left over from FY '13, $300 million. It doesn't say we're going to bring more than what we initially said in our earlier Resolution that said we were going to bring in 35 billion .081. You know for… for the freshmen here, I… I think you should pay attention to this, because let's go back just one year, and on March the 1st of 2012, this House passed House Resolution 707, which gave us a revenue estimate of 33 billion… $33.7 billion. Three weeks later, on March the 29th, we passed House Resolution 706, which allocated how we were going to spend that money. And I was proud to join the Speaker of the House, the Minority Leader, the Chairman of the Revenue… House Revenue and Finance Committee, to cosponsor that Resolution. And that Resolution laid out a firm path on how we get back to fiscal solvency in the State of Illinois. Let me read, for just a second, what was said in House Resolution 706. 'Resolved, that if the actual amount of general funds that become available during state fiscal year 2013', the one we're in right now, 'exceeds the House's estimate set forth in House Resolution 707, then the excess shall first be used to reduce the backlog of unpaid state obligations to the extent authorized by law with a comptroller prioritizing voucher payments for Medicaid obligations'. Well, this House smartly said anything above 33.7 should be used to pay old bills, prioritizing Medicaid. And guess what, we had an April surprise, we could pay back our Medicaid bills substantially. Great. But all of a sudden, we now have $300 million that's leftover from the… from the refund fund that was set up. And it's leftover because, again, this House did a great job in appropriating the dollars to put into the 09800068.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 refund fund so that our income tax refunds are now all paid. And we've got $300 million leftover. But what did this House say to do with that $300 million? They said pay the old bills. That's what this House said. Us, together, we said let's get our House… our fiscal House in order and any extra money, let's pay the old bills. And for the freshmen, that's what we did. That's the Resolution that we agreed to. Unfortunately, this year we couldn't come to an agreement on how the allocation was supposed to be handled. But nonetheless, we have, in essence, a governing document, House Resolution 706 from last year that said anything leftover, pay the old bills. So, what are we doing? We've got $300 million. We're not paying old bills. We're putting it into spending. Folks, you know the numbers as well as I do whether it's $5 billion dollars, $6 billion dollars, $7 billion of old bills, they're still there. You know our pension problems as well as I do. Let me just close by saying this. This is what was said by the Daily Herald, a major newspaper in… in lots of our areas, about the spending. And it says 'We have just one thought to emphasize for lawmakers contemplating revenue thirsty programs. Don't do it. It's dangerous, short-term thinking, the kind of immediate gratification that has led us to the sorry condition we find ourselves in today. The strict control of spending should remain an unwavering driver of the state's fiscal thinking'. Folks, this House led the way last year and the past… and the year before that, thanks to the leadership of the Speaker and the Minority Leader and the Chairman of the House Revenue Committee. We led the way in passing Resolutions that said we're not going to spend more than what 09800068.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 we take in, and if we do, it goes to old bills. Is the piece of paper worth anything that the words are printed on if all of a sudden we take $300 million and put it into new spending? We've already done it. We've already spent… spent it because of the appropriations, and quite frankly the money is there. But we're going against absolutely what we said. It's not good fiscal policy. We're never going to get out of this jam if we continue to do things like this. This deserves a 'no' vote."

"Representative Bellock."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Your request is acknowledged. Mr. Reboletti."

"You don't need to. You were the last speaker. Mr. Bradley to close. Mr. Bradley."

"We… we began this process… we began this process, as I recall, before this General Assembly was ever sworn in. We began the process, and we started taking testimony from COGFA and the Department of Revenue and the Office of Management and Budget, and anyone else on either side of the aisle, on either side of the rev… revenue or fiscal opinions to come and offer testimony. Last year, when we passed a revenue estimate, it was a bipartisan effort. Representative Harris, my dear friend and colleague, Republican Spokesperson on the Revenue Committee, and I, were soundly criticized from sides all over that we were low, that we were conservative, that we had made up the number, that we had made up the number. The results of those efforts set a course for this state that has now allowed us to be in a position to dig out of the fiscal mess that's been taking place for decades. And so when Representative Harris says that some of the decisions that now can be made are able to be made because of the efforts of this House, that is completely accurate. There would have 09800068.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 been no April surprise. There would have been no $3.5 billion pay down of bills this year had this House not set a fiscal responsible course in the last fiscal year budget. That money would have been spent prior to being received from the state. That much is true. However… however, we haven’t had that same kind of help this year. Despite efforts by many people on both sides of the aisle, we waited… we waited for a response. We waited for a counter alternative. We waited to get help, to keep these numbers in a bipartisan manner. The response we got was the following…"

"Mr. Harris, you… oh."

"To be accurate, I would've had to wait three months. To be accurate in that depiction, we would've had to wait three months. So, that being said, the basis for the revenue estimate coming from COGFA, COGFA now changing their assumptions on the tax refund and the refund rates, we have had to make additional decisions. We are still going to pay in the next fiscal year budget approximately $1.3 billion of old bills by matching the 650 million of old bills in next year's fiscal budget with the federal match. We still paid $3.5 billion of old bills in April as a result of the April surprise. So, don’t be on your heels when you vote for this. Don't be on your heels when you support this, 'cause we're still paying old bills, we've paid old bills. And unfortunately, we're having to do it on our own this year. Mr. Speaker, I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"I believe Mr. Harris's name was used in debate. The Chair recognizes Mr. Harris." 09800068.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And normally I don't stand after somebody uses my name in debate, because it really doesn't make that much difference to me. But I'm going to take the opportunity here to do that. The Gentleman the… the distinguished Gentleman who's the Chair of the House Revenue and Finance Committee is absolutely right. What we did last year was the good thing. We said, hey, COGFA came in at 33.9, but we're going to pass a Resolution at 33.7 and be conservative because we know we have old bills to… we have to pay. We know we have obligations that have to be met. We know we have to put the state on a sounder financial stabl… stability. That's what we did. What this House did, with the leadership of the Speaker, with the leadership of the Minority Leader, with the leadership of the Chairman of the House Revenue Finance… Revenue and Finance Committee, was absolutely on track, absolutely on track. Now, remember, he didn't correct my statement. COGFA did not change its revenue estimate for FY '14. It's simply an additional $300 million that's leftover from FY '13 that we're moving and transferring into FY '14. But the point here is this. We're spending every single penny that comes into the state coffers, every single penny. How do we… how do we handle the tax in… a tax increase when it decreases in a year from now? How do we… how do we eat at that… that backlog of bills if we spend every single penny that comes into the state coffers without making allocations for those things. It’s unfortunate that we didn't come to an agreement on the allocation this year, I agree. I'm not so sure, though, that that in and of itself would've put a break on the spending which is… which is taking place. 09800068.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 I think it's unfortunate that we're raising the revenue estimate. I think it… it breaks an absolutely excellent procedure that this House has established or had established for the past two years. And I guess we're now… we're throwing it to the wind and who knows what happens in years ahead. Thank you very much."

"The Chair would recommend that Members stop using other Members' names in debate. The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Resolution. Mr. Sullivan has asked for a verification. Members will be in their chairs. Mr. Sullivan asked for it, but thank you, Mr. Reboletti. Those… Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. Those who support the Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 69 voting 'yes', 49 voting 'no'. Mr. Sullivan, do you persist, Sir? The Gentleman withdraws his verification request. The Resolution is adopted. Sen… Senate Joint Resolution 27, Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. SJR 27 is a nonbinding Resolution that puts the State of Illinois on record against the Supreme Court's Citizens United vs. FEC decision that was decided by the Supreme Court in 2010. That case weakened transparency of campaign spending and led to record spending by outside groups and super packs in the recent 2012 election cycle. Supreme Court unleashed a flood of mummy… money into our political system by ruling that, contrary to a hundred years of precedent, corporations have a First Amendment right to spend unlimited amounts of treasury money to promote or 09800068.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 defeat candidates. The decision in this historic case overturned, as I said, a century of campaign finance law that was designed to control, except the appearance of impropriety created by the contribution of campaign cash. Twelve states have already adopt similar Resolutions to call the Citizens United Case decision misguided and ask the U.S. Congress to pass a Constitutional Amendment to get unregulated money out of our elections. Twelve municipalities across Illinois, from Kane County to Carbondale, have also passed local Resolutions calling for action. This Bill… this Resolution has bipartisan support. And I would ask for your vote as well."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of the Resolution. The Chair recognizes Representative Tracy."

"Lady yields."

"And Representative, I would argue that… that the Citizens United case makes that harder for us to… to control that. And so, this is an important component of actually addressing those… that part of it."

"Well, to me, the whole point of campaign disclosure is to… so that we know what money's coming into the system, its source and who's being influenced by it. Right now, this is… this is… this case has completely blown that out of the water, and we need to be doing this in… in… in so that we can continue to regulate in the State of Illinois."

"I… I don't know."

"I don't."

"And Representative, they may be a proponent of this, but this is something that I think that I believe in as well, and I'm the Sponsor of the legislation."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Resolution. Well, I understand the concerns expressed by the previous speaker. I think we, as… as public policy makers, have to be able to do multiple things at a time. We certainly have issues with our own campaign finance here in the State of Illinois, but the Citizens United ruling is something that's been broadly condemned both by Republicans and Democrats including John McCain and Barack Obama, who opposed each other in the presidential election. This is the right thing to do. It highlights the ways in which larger interests have taken over from the common people. And… and I think that this… this is just a Resolution in line with what other states have done. It makes a ton of sense. And I would hope that everyone in this chamber would support it. Thank you."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Representative Nekritz to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The campaign finance systems are… are far from perfect and there's always ways to get around them. But we need to encourage as much disclosure and sunshine as we can. The Citizens United Case shut that down in a very significant way. I think we need to urge Congress to… to act to overcome that. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? 09800068.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 80 voting 'yes', 36 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And the Resolution is adopted. House Bill 2780, on the Order of Concurrence, Mr. Hoffman on a Motion to Nonconcur."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we nonconcur in Amendments #1 and 4."

"You heard the Gentleman's Motion. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted. And the House does nonconcur with Senate Amendments 1 and 4 to House Bill 2780. House Bill 2955, Mr. Drury, on the Order of Concurrence."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the House concur with Senate Amendment #1. House Bill 2955 is a budget transparency Bill. It requires the Governor to publish the enacted budget online, originally said within 30 days, the Amendment just changes that to 60 days. I ask for your concurrence."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Durkin, Wheeler. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2955. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Joint Resolution 39, Representative Cloonen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask for a Floor Amendment to be passed first before the House Joint Resolution." 09800068.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Cloonen."

"Yes. This is just to ask for an extension of a date of a joint res… a career task force that's already in place. We just would like to extend the date and that… thus the House Joint Resolution. I would…"

"Tho…"

"…ask for an 'aye' vote please."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. You've already explained the Resolution?"

"Yes, I have."

"Those in favor of the Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Halbrook. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. House Joint Resolution 43, Representative Feigenholtz. Leader Turner in the Chair."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Joint Resolution 43 is an agreement between poverty advocates and the Illinois Retail Merchants Association to establish a work group that will come up to solu… come up with a solution for SNAP benefits by, I believe, October 1. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate… Representative Reboletti."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Yes. That is the Food Stamp Program at DHS."

"When the Department of Human Services purchased software for… to move forward on harmonization of benefits, moving forward on health care, the software has a problem where the distribution dates went to once a month instead of staggering those dates. We're trying to come up with a solution that both parties are satisfied with. We do not want our food stamp customers to have to wait, but we also don't want our… we also want our retailers to be able to stock their shelves and have enough staff in the appropriate manner. And we don't want technology to drive policy."

"It is."

"Representative Tracy."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"The Lady will yield."

"Representative, I want to take this opportunity to compliment you on House (sic–Joint) Resolution 43, but I just have one question. Does this also apply to WIC and the group of women that are being discriminated against because they're not allowed to take their WIC stamps to regular stores, just like other people across the state?"

"I don't believe so, Representative."

"Okay. Thank you very much."

"Representative Feigenholtz to close."

"I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 43. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On the count of 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Joint Resolution 43 is adopted. Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Please state your point, Sir." 09800068.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Body will take a moment of silence. Thank you, Representative. Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. While we're standing, I would like for us to also recognize that today being May 31st, we should remember the Tulsa, Oklahoma race riots and all the people that were killed during the Tulsa, Oklahoma race riots. And I would pause for a moment of silence for all those families and the pain that it caused the entire nation during the time of 1921. Thank you."

"Body will take a moment of silence. Thank you, Representative. House Joint Resolution 40, Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Joint Resolution 40 is an initiative of the Asian American Caucus, a new caucus in the Illinois House and Senate. Title VI of the Federal Civil Rights Act requires that program recipients of federal funds including state agencies take reasonable steps to ensure that limited English-proficient persons have meaningful access to government programs and activities. This Joint Resolution would simply create a task force to come back with recommendations for those state agencies."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of House Joint Resolution 40. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 09800068.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative DeLuca, Thapedi, Moylan. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Joint Resolution 40 is adopted. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"Senate Bills-Third Reading. On the Order of Postponed Consideration, there appears Senate Bill 923, Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As you can see, I'm in my seat. Mr. Mapes, in my seat. Senate Bill 923 is on Postponed Consideration. This is the… the Bill that would allow for the cameras on school buses to ensure safety of… of school children. As you may know, there have been 51 deaths in the United States over the last year as a result of children being hit while they're getting off school buses. This would ensure the safety of the children. And it sets out the procedure for a county and a municipality to go about entering into a intergovernmental agreement for enforcement. School districts around the state, I believe, will take advantage of this. And I believe it's something that we should be doing here in Illinois. It was roundly debated the last time it was up for a vote."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker. And to the Bill. This is a growing problem in the State of Illinois and actually national… nationwide. As the Chair of Elementary and Secondary Ed, I've had some serious discussions with IDOT and 09800068.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 National Traffic Safety Administration saying that there's an increasing number of motorists that feel that they can pass in front of school buses each day and it's getting quite dangerous. Other jurisdictions are turning to automatic traffic enforcement because the technology is available. We avan… we have advanced to the point where we're asking even some of the school buses to have cameras inside because of kids being mistreated, what have you. This is just a natural progression. It also helps, almost as a deterrent, if… if motorists know that this is going to be going on and they actually get ticketed, it will decrease the problems. We have one child, just recently, William Adkins, the father of a 16- year-old and… who died while running across the street to his school bus and was hit by a driver illegally passing the bus. So, I realize people are sensitive about this issue, but I think it just adds another tool to the toolbox to help us keep our children safe. And I request a 'yes' vote."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Mr. Hoffman to close."

"Thank you. The whole idea behind the Bill is to change driving behavior, to make sure that we have people be aware that this is a dangerous situation when children are getting off the school bus. IDOT conducted a study asking drivers on 250 school buses to record stop-arm violations during a 41- day period. 135 of those drivers returned the data to IDOT, and they reported 3,450 violations, 3,450 violations from over… only 135 drivers. This is an issue that is about safety for our children when we send them to school on a school bus. And I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 09800068.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Bost, Dunkin. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 64 voting 'yes', 54 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Under Consideration Postponed, House Bill 1463, Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill… and Members of the General Assembly here in the House. House Bill 1463 is an initiative of the Mayor of the City of Chicago and the Commissioner, who is Commissioner Steadman. This Bill was brought to me some time ago and I am bringing it to the Body, once again, to ask for your support. This legislation is a tool that allows the Chicago Liquor Commissioner to protect communities from the worst of the worst. Liquor license holders who knowingly harbor and/or participate in criminal activity, it allows an extended summary closure from the 7 days to a maximum of 30 days and extending the days of scrutiny for executing the closure is higher. What is important about this, Ladies and Gentlemen, at the time that the licensee receives a closure notice based on crime, the licensee has the ability to in… in the statute, presently, that they can have a hearing based on the evidence of crime within three days. And what has been happening over periods of bringing those individuals in, regarding evidence of crime, those individuals have continued to have continuances over and over and over again. And so, we're asking for some extended time to prove up the case for the City to protect, especially in my community, where there is a lot of crime, where those business owners would be better businessmen. And 09800068.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 so I'm asking and urging for an 'aye' vote. And I will happy to take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brady, Crespo, DeLuca, Dunkin, Jones, Rosenthal, Senger. Mr. Jones. Please take the record. On this question, there are 78 voting 'yes', 38 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 77, Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for House Bill 77 to pass. I just want to say that this Bill only affects the Chicago School District. And I just want to… I'm not a doctor, but I just want to let you know that a read a report from the Mayo Clinic, and it talks about trans fat is a double trouble for your heart. It talks about trans fat raises your bad cholesterol, the LDL, and lower your good cholesterol, the HDL. And so, with that, I ask that we consider passing a Bill that would protect the growth of our young people in elementary schools in the City of Chicago. I move for the passage of House Bill 77."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Representative Pihos."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes. And this falls in line with them."

"Well, I mean, I would say yes. I mean, not unless you know something different. But this falls in line with the federal guidelines. And I would say yes."

"Mr. Ford to close."

"With no oppo… opposition, the Chicago Public School is in favor of it and so is the American Heart Association. So, I move for the passage of House Bill 77."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record. On this question, there are 61 voting 'yes', 56 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared 09800068.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 passed. Under the Order of Resolutions, House Resolution 257, Representative Chapa LaVia. Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. This is kind of belated, but House Resolution 257 proclaims April 23, 2013 as United States Army Reserve Day in the State of Illinois. This involves honoring the state's past and current sol… citizen soldiers for their service and thanks… thanking the friends and neighbors and employees of the United States Army Reserve. And I ask for its passage."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 271, Representative Flowers. Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Resolution 271 is also belated, but it is acknowledging the Alpha Kappa Sorority, which was incorporated on the campus of Howard University in 1908. And it was calling for May 15 to be known for the Alpha Day in… at the State Capitol. And I would urge for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 273, Mr. Meier."

"Thank you, Mr. Meier. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Reis is recognized on the Resolution."

"Mr. Cavaletto."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Wheeler."

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Resolution. Ladies and Gentlemen, I want the Body to be aware of the fact that Mr. Phelps and I, who are both downstate Democrats and in the area of Murray Center, absolutely support keeping Murray Center open. This is a bipartisan Resolution. These are the most severely developmentally disabled people of our state. They're the types of people and families that you and I were sent here to represent and to make sure are not forgotten. I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Bost."

"Representative Bellock."

"Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to request a Roll Call vote on this."

"Your request will be acknowledged. Mr. Meier, do you wish to close?"

"Those in favor of the Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cavaletto, Jones, Lilly, Verschoore. Please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 360, Representative McAsey."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Resolution 360 creates the Augmentative and Alternative Communications Task Force at HFS. Essentially, what this is about is looking at communication devices that are able to assist persons with special needs and with speech challenges. Oftentimes tablet devices are prescribed by medical providers, but under the Medicaid system, they're not reimbursable, though they're often appropriate and, in fact, much less expensive than the medical equipment that we do reimburse. So, this would just allow for a study through a task force to determine what is, in fact, in the best interest both of the people and the fiscal situation of our state. I would also mention that the task force members will not receive any compensation. I request the support of the Body."

"Lady moves for the adoption of the Resolution. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cavaletto. Please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 361, Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Resolution 361 calls for the Chicago Public Schools to engage parents, stakeholders, and the gen… 09800068.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Illinois General Assembly on actions that it takes on sch… on school actions that it takes. As many of us know, on May 22nd, the Chicago Public School Board took unprecedented accident… action by closing 50 schools across the City of Chicago. This affects over 30 thousand students in the city, over 3 thousand of which have… are students with disabilities. There… there was numerous public hearings held, and at those hearings, parents cried out. Parents cried out for assistance. Parents cried out for help with ensuring that we… we take a stand for our children, that we make sure that we are protecting them, that we're protecting their int… their educational integrity, we're protecting their ability to be safe, and we're protecting our communities. House Resolution 361 calls on the Chicago Public Schools to abide by the law, the laws that we pass. And it also calls for the Chicago Public Schools to abide by the deal that it made, that the offer that it made to the Illinois General Assembly to… of a five-year moratorium on school actions when they… when they received the extension that… that they received recently this… this past fall. It's a Resolution that I… I urge your adopt… I urge your support of."

"Mr. Sims, you had an Amendment to this. Can…"

"Yeah."

"We show an Amendment to this Resolution."

"I… I thought… I thought we'd adopted it, Mr. Speaker. But do we… do we need to adopt… do I need to move to adopt Floor Amendment #1. I'm sorry." 09800068.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Representative Pihos is recognized on the Resolution."

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I think as you all know, I am the cochair of the task force that meets with many different communities regarding school closings. I… I strang… I stand in strong support of this Bill because there is an issue when it comes to our communities. We don't have enough input, we don't… sometimes communities don’t know what's going on, even though there's actions going on in the community. Sometimes they don't know, they're not advised. But anyway, I think this is a good Bill. I'm not going to keep on talking. I think a lot of you here, my colleagues, know what's been going on in Chicago. So anytime there's a Bill that's a strong Bill that will help parents be engaged in the process, that's what this is about. It's about making sure parents are involved and know what's going on for their children. Their children have rights too, and that's something that we need to work on even more and a lot harder to make sure that they're involved in what's going on in the lives of their children and their schools. So, again, I urge this Body to support this Bill so that we can have a more transparent and accountable process. Thank you."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to the Bill… Resolution. I want to congratulate the Sponsor of this Bill because he's done exactly what the people of his district sent him to do and that is represent their concerns. There were hundreds and thousands of people asking for a moratorium and to be respected. So, I, too, urge the Chicago Public Schools to actively engage in individuals and communities and with us 09800068.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 down in Springfield. It should be noted that the state sends over $1.6 billion to the Chicago Public Schools. And it is my hope that the Mayor of the City of Chicago and his plan is successful as he transition the kids, if the school closures are to take place. I know, personally, I've had several places to close in my life. I had my high school close and I also had the church that I was baptized at close and I moved to a different church. And even at the moving to my new church, is… there's a certain sense of loss when you move from one place to another that you find dear to your heart and that helped you develop into a person of good faith and… and good behavior. And so, when these school kids are moved from their schools and moved to a different location, it has a real psychological effect on them. And I hope that the Mayor's Office recognize that not only are the dangers of safe passage would be a concern, but it also is a behavior health issue that students have to deal with as they go to new environments and they have to deal with new teachers, they have to deal with new teammates and things like that. So, this is a serious issue. And I praise the Sponsor for sticking with it and responding to his constituents' request. And I urge a 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you. Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. To the Resolution. I think Representative Ford and Pihos and Representative Soto stated quite acc… stated it ac… quite accurately. This is a pretty major situation in the State of Illinois. It's a situation that has never, ever occurred in the history of the country, when it comes to 09800068.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 dislocating and moving almost 50 thousand children. That's 50 thousand children. Moving them, as if they are products or commodities, if you will, and not giving them any deference, not giving their parents any deference. CPS has had multiple, many town hall meetings, well-attended, filled to the rafters, from the floor to the balconies packed. The parents were oh, so articulate. They knew the issues. They were attentive to the all the details, from safety back and forth to school from their houses. They understood the need for utilization of all schools and maximizing a quality education by having a smaller class size, by having a responsible principal and teacher that not only respects them, but listens to them, as well as comes up with an appropriate curriculum that takes them to the next academic level. The parents of the kids, they articulated that. They spoke to that. But for some reason, somehow, the Chicago Public School System failed to respond to them in such a way that did not reduce 50… or excuse me, 49 schools closing. Somehow that fell on the wrong ears, or a very determined set of individuals, intent on meeting the initiative of the Mayor, of the chief executive officer for the school. Somehow, that just did not resonate. Now, every single Member here in this Body, every alderman, every Governor, every parent, every student wants to be a part of the best… the quality of, quality educational systems. We all want the best. We know that financial deficits are a huge reality in the way that you govern. We know that first hand. But there's also a way in which to go about doing some of this. And the way that CPS should've gone and need to go was to start by listening to the people. And lis… excuse me. 09800068.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Not… it's not just hearing them but listening to them. If this was in anywhere in DuPage County, in Lake Forest, in Sparta, in Springfield, you have a calamitous situation of people who are concerned, and some people highly upset and disgusted at the lack of attention that they receive other than just lip service. Holding all of those hearings, but they weren't listening to anybody, they weren't hearing the folk. This… this Resolution is a great start, but we really need that moratorium Bill to come into effect where we suspend school closings for a year. Now, if you want to get parents excited or communities excited, mess with their kids. And that's exactly what this legislation that we passed earlier this year, in January, does. Now, the Chicago Public School System in the last four years, since 2009, have had 5 CEOs, Arne Duncan, no relation, Terry Mazany, Ron Huberman, Jean- Claude Brizard, and now, Barbara Byrd-Bennett III. So, how is it that parents, teachers, principals, community, regular citizens in the City of Chicago, us here in the state, would have the faith and the confidence of the fifth administration in five years moving 50 thousand students and having a real substantive rationale of how it is they're going to protect students, how it is they're going to serve the students. How is it that they're going to provide a quality education if they haven't been there? If there's been multiple transitions in a situation that calls for common sense and a… and a bit of intelligence on, how it is that you utilize under… under utilized schools and put kids in the best position? That hasn’t happened. It's sad. It was a rushed job, they came down here like they did in 1996/97, took control of the 09800068.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 school, came up with some notion from some think tank that says these black and these brown kids are better served this way with very little respect or deference as it relates to following some of the… the common sense approaches towards helping their kids out. And so, I'm challenging the City of Chicago to do the right thing and to wait a year and to listen to its own hearing officers. They had hearing officers that said we want 14… 14 schools to come off the list. They didn't even acknowledge them. They didn't even listen to them. There is no history. There is no precedent of any of this ever being done before. And so, I appreciate you, Representative Sims, for this Resolution. I want it to go even further than it… it does. I think we need to have a Bill that actually deals with stopping the school closings until they can answer basic questions. They came into committee, in the Elementary and Secondary Education Committee, five times for two and a half, three hours, and guess what? They couldn't answer over 70 percent of the questions that our downstate Republicans, our downstate Democrats, our Chicago Democrats asked. They couldn't answer the questions on what their plan was that was of substance… that was of proven substance and value to the students, to the parents and to the kids. They couldn't answer that. This is bigger than just closing some building. This is about the future of our babies, whether they live in the City of Chicago or whether they live in Cairo, Illinois. And so, this Resolution speaks to that. It offers a glimmer of hope to some of the parents who feel displaced, whose kids will be crossing dangerous territory in the city, highways, gang territory, abandoned blocks, and some of the city's most 09800068.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 difficult and tough and poorest neighborhoods. And so, let's make sure that when… when we vote on this legislation, that we're considering the kids, and that we're also thinking down the line that when the Chicago Public School System comes down here again for such massive change, that we're going to do the right thing and make them prove and be accountable to this Body and be accountable to some of the commissions and the committees that were formed to look at facility closures and follow those rules like anyone else, follow some of those suggestions that we provided. I urge a strong 'yes' vote on this House Resolution. Thank you."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. And I commend the Sponsor for bringing the Resolution forward. Over 30 thousand Chicago Public School students will be impacted by this action. Chicago Public Schools closing plan includes turnaround schools, co-locations, school phase-outs. Besides the 30 thousand children affected and their families, over 5 thousand students with disabilities also will be affected. The parents of these children are facing many challenges. The first challenge might be the closing of the Red Line, which is the major transportation system from the south or west sides of Chicago. Now the parents will have to find a new route to go to work, go to school, see that their children are where they should be. That's challenge number one. Challenge number two is considering the new location, whether the children will be able to get there safely or not. Many people may not know this in this Body, but children in Chicago are being killed on a daily basis. Some people see that as an 09800068.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 insignificant incident in the State of Illinois. They see almost every other… every other desire or Bill as more significant. What could be more important to a state when children are being killed on a daily basis? Not one, not two, sometimes three or four. The claim is they're being killed by other children. It has become so prevalent to me, I don't know if we have a serial killer loose. I know that we have FBI, we have police, we have sheriffs. Too often, over 70 percent of the time, they can't find who killed these children or the children. It is significant to me. This now will be a greater consideration for the parent whose children have to find a new route, hopefully to make this 30 thousand or more children safe as they find a way to this new school location. Will some new kids or more kids be killed because of this new route they now must transfer in? Is… is it going to be a safe passage for them? Perhaps the route they now take, or have been taking, they know how to dodge the dangers of a bullet hitting one of them in the head. To me, that is one of the most significant concerns we should have, and no one has visited me about that issue. Our children are so impacted with fear and feeling unsafe until their learning is affected by this. All of the experts have agreed that their learning is affected. School District 299 Chicago is the only district in this state, listen carefully, District 299 in Chicago, it's the only district in the State of Illinois that does not have an elected school board. We are the only district where the board members are appointed by one man, and they have no allegiance to or concern for our parents. When you vote 'yes' on this Bill, when you vote 'yes' on this Bill, ask 09800068.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 yourselves, perhaps, how many lives am I saving? How many children might be saved with the vote of this Bill? It's just a Resolution, but hopefully, hopefully, it'll wake up some people who are sitting there making decisions about little children whose lives are in danger every single day. Vote 'yes'."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I, too, would like to thank the Sponsor for bringing this legislation. I, too, urge the Chicago Public School System to engage individuals and the community in their active… activities those families that are affected by the proposed school closings. We must provide them with all the information regarding these closings so that our families can participate in a better education for our children. More importantly, the Chicago Public Schools should listen. They should listen to the students, the parents and the teachers in the communities where these schools are housed. We all have some good ideas of how we can better educate our children and to improve the Chicago Public School System and the statewide school system. Closings and… that create cost savings of this nature will and can jeopardize the fabric our society. It damages the educational infrastructure. It puts our children in jeopardy of poor safety. We all must stop and think what we are doing. To me, it is apparent that our school system is in crisis, and I do not believe I'm the only one who has this opinion. We must work together to make sure that our children are receiving the quality health care that allows them to compete on levels beyond our state, beyond our country, more on a 09800068.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 global level. We all have something to offer. Let's continue to pray for our children and pray for those administrators who are providing the health… the education for our children. Thank you for this time. God bless us all."

"Mr. Leitch."

"Mr. Sims to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me first do this. I want to thank Chairman Chapa LaVia and Minority Spokesperson Pihos for the work that they did in helping to get this piece of legislation to the floor. Let me also do this. Let me clear… clear up this confusion. This is not a moratorium. It calls for open… open and transparency in the process. It calls for the Chicago Public Schools to follow the laws that we've passed. But let me say this. This… these are not merely numbers on a spreadsheets. This is not… these individuals are not chattel, these are our children. We want to give them the education they deserve being raised in the communities that they deserve. Vote 'aye'." 09800068.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Those in favor will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 374, Mr. Moffitt."

"Mr. Leitch."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much. Will the Sponsor yield for a brief question?"

"Gentleman yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, I am going to support your Resolution, but my question, with regard to that, is it's my understanding that often when we talk about passenger rail in the State of Illinois, we're not talking about dedicated tracks. They're going to be sharing the tracks with freight rail. So, when you talk about the feasibility of this, do you know whether or not the… how the impact on freight rail, will that be studied as a part of this feasibility study?"

"Representative Jakobsson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Bill. This is very important to have this feasibility study done so that the people of Illinois can travel around the state in a really convenient way. And I think a lot of us who do use the track when we can find that very often it's quite an economical way, too. And so, with the studying of passenger rail between all these cities that are in this Bill will really connect people across the state to places that… many places that they want to get to, whether it's for their higher education or for cultural events. I urge an 'aye' vote for this. Thank you."

"Mr. Verschoore."

"Thank you, Speaker. I'd just like to echo the former Representative's endorsement of this very fine Resolution. Representative Moffitt was talking to me about this about two months ago, and I said I think it's an excellent idea, which 09800068.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 I still do, and I think it will open up a lot of opportunities, not only for students but for businesses also. And I would urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 375, Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Resolution 375. In this Body, we have many, many issues that we're facing, but one of the most important issues that we're facing right now, in the State of Illinois, is behavioral health care. It is our hope that House Resolution 375 furthers the work of the Governor and the General Assembly to address behavioral health care disparities. House Resolution 375 imp… implementation recognizes Illinois' difficult budget environment while at the same time the need to gather data while we leverage experience, talents, knowledge, and best practices to address behavioral health care disparities. Acting favorably on this Resolution will be a positive step towards remediating behavioral health care disparities. House Resolution 375, it urges the Executive Office, the Governor, to seek to empower and engage individuals and communities where behavioral health care disparities exist, through the creation of pilot programs for health homes, assistance of care and essential community behavioral health care providers', standardized data collection and analysis, methods regarding the impact on racial, ethnic, and rural health care disparities and a Illinois behavioral health innovation prize. I move to adopt House Resolution 375."

"Mr. Ford." 09800068.docx 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I… I want to praise the Sponsor of this Bill. I think we… this… this speaks to a lot of good work that all of the Members in the Body is doing this year, even though it seems as though we are not passing the big Bills right now. But this is a major Resolution. I believe that all of the problems that the City of Chicago and the communities across the state suffer from deals with behavioral health. And I really believe in this Resolution. I believe that our school… students will go to school ready to learn if we deal with behavioral health. I believe crime would go down if we deal with mental and behavioral health. I believe work places will be safer. People will produce better as a result of being able to deal with behavioral health and mental health in the State of Illinois. And it's also important to note that we do have Obamacare, the ACA, which will allow us to make sure that we leave no one behind when it comes to behavioral health and behavioral health in our state. So, I urge the Governor to do exactly what the Sponsor of this Resolution is requesting. I urge the entire Body to support HR 375. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. House Resolution 377. Excuse me. The Chair recognizes Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Speaker. I stand in to correct a… a vote I took inadvertently I voted 'no' and I wanted to vote 'yes'. My motion… emotions got the best of me. Thank you. And that was for Representative Meier's Bill." 09800068.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"The record will reflect your intentions. House Resolution… House Resolution 377, Mr. Acevedo. Out of the record. Returning to House Resolution 377, Mr. Acevedo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Resolution 377 resolves that the Illinois House of Representatives urges the President of the United States and the United States Congress to enact comprehensive immigration reform. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, House Joint Resolution 45, the Adjournment Resolution."

"Leader Curries moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Adjournment Resolution is adopted. The House will stand in recess 'til the hour of thir… 2:30 p.m., 2:30 p.m. The House will be in order. Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Clerk."

"On the Calendar, on page 4, under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 1329, Leader Currie. Excuse me. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Perhaps, we could adopt all three Amendments and then discuss the measure on Third Reading?"

Speaker Lang: "Is there any objection to that? Seeing no objection, those in favor of Amendment 2, 3, and 4 say 'aye'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And all three Amendments are adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. This is the… the Annual Budget Implementation Act. We include measures that will make it possible, effectively and efficiently, to implement the budget that we have approved. I will just go through some of the highlights of the… of the measure. There are many more items in the Bill and I would be very happy to answer whatever questions you might have. But here… here are some of the highlights. We're transferring a total of 601 million from GRF into the Health Care Provider 09800068.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Relief Fund. This is a way of getting federal Medicaid matching money back and will enable us to… to meet our Section 25 responsibilities. Second, in the last several years we have transferred responsibility for paying regional superintendents, regional offices of education, and some other local offices, county recorder of deeds, stipends for those offices, to the Corporate Personal Property Tax Replacement Fund. This measure would make that… that shift from state GRF, as we don't have any money, to the locals a permanent proposition. We are also changing the share of personal income taxes and corporate income taxes that will need to go into the Income Tax Refund Fund, and this we did at the advice both of COGFA and the Department of Revenue. We, in fact, took a very conservative estimate from them. We didn't go nearly as low as they thought we could, but it will save us some $65 million in this coming budget year. And we are, again, doing what we've done for the last several years, making all General Revenue Fund contributions to the State Employees Retirement System through a simple appropriation to SERS rather than putting the moneys in each and every agency budget. The gran… all… all state grants were intended to sunset at the… at the end of June 2013, we extend that for one year to June 30, 2014. And we're transferring a total of 11.3 million from various funds in the Office of the Secretary of State to the Secretary's Identification Security and Theft Prevention Fund, that's the real ID program, and that will enable federal monies to be deposited in that fund. And many years ago, we used to have a state sales tax increment in the Tax Increment Financing Program, we cancelled that in the 09800068.docx 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 mid-80's. And finally, in this measure, we end deposits into the tax increment fund on September 2013 and dissolve the fund entirely at the end of this year. Again, there are many other items in the Bill. I'd be happy to answer your questions. And I hope you will join me in supporting this measure so we can make the budget that we have already adopted real."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Sponsor yields."

"We, in fact, are putting more money into the Provider Relief Fund this year than we did last in order to access even more federal funds through the Medicaid program."

"That… and that was in the budget Bill. All the… all that happens here is statutory changes to reflect what was in the appropriation measure." 09800068.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, I do have… I'd like to… I'd like to track for a moment or two on what the Gentleman, the previous speaker, just asked. I understand you are… you are correct, we are paying more into the Healthcare Provider Fund this year than we did last year. However, as I understand our deal last year, we were going to put $800 million towards old bills. Of that $800 million, 500 million was going to go into Health Care Fund and 300 million was going to go in to pay 09800068.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 other old bills. So, the 500 million, which was going to pay Medicaid, was going to get matched and was going to be a billion dollars. I understand this ti… this year we're putting 600 million into that fund, which technically is, yes, more than we did last year. However, last year we set aside $300 million to pay other old bills. Are we doing anything for those other non-Medicaid old bills?"

"50 million will be dedicated to non-Medicaid spending and 1.25 billion in the Medicaid Fund, given that we're putting 601 million into the Health Care Provider Trust Fund." Harris, D.: "Thank you. And thank you for the accuracy. So, we're… we're using only 50 million to pay old bills this year when we used 300 million to pay non-Medicaid old bills last year. And I… I understand that, and I think that's the wrong path to take."

"Well… but… but also…" Harris, D.: "We should… Medicaid is a priority, but we still have non-Medicaid bills to pay as well."

"We do. But let me also remind you that we paid an awful lot of old bills because of the April surprise. So, through April, the Comptroller was able to make a very significant dent in the old bills, and I believe those included not just Medicaid but also non-Medicaid bills. So, in that sense we're already ahead of the game before we get to fiscal '14." Harris, D.: "And I agree. And the Comptroller said the old bills were down to about 5.5 billion after that one time influx of money, and they're going to be back up to seven… 7 billion or 7.5 billion at the end of the fiscal year. But I appreciate your accuracy in answering the question. I do have another 09800068.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 question as well. There was an issue about the… the independent tax tribunal in the funding of the indepe… independent tax tribunal, and I believe, I'm not sure if it's in this Bill or another Bill as to when taxpayers might be able to access the independent tax tribunal. Is that in here?"

"It is in here. And we delayed the actual operation of the tax tribunal until January 1, 2014 because we didn't have supplemental funding, but let me also tell you that there is language in this Bill that will enable people to wait to take their issues to the tax tribunal when it becomes effective, rather than the Department of Revenue. I think they probably could do that anyway, Representative, because I suspect that unless they’re up a deadline, they can wait to file an objection, wait to file a claim. But this specifies that they have that option." Harris, D.: "Well, I appreciate that. I just want to make sure that anybody who has a dispute does not… does not incur any additional penalties because of the… the need to wait for the tax tribunal to come around."

"And the language does take care of that problem." Harris, D.: "And then one other question on the PPRT. I know that we funded certain positions off of PPRT last year. We are funding more positions off of PPRT this ye…"

"I believe one more. This year we are adding the… the cost of the Illinois Labor… Local Labor Relations Act, so disputes about schools, Educational Labor Relations Act…" Harris, D.: "And… and… do we…"

"Disputes about schools, which are local, will, in fact, be paid for out of CPPRT because, just like the regional 09800068.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 superintendents of education and the county recorders and so forth, those are all local… local activities." Harris, D.: "And do we know how much that involves?"

"Yes. I think… right. That's right. We also have election judges, too. So, it's about… yeah. The new ones, I… I thought it was more like 3 to 4 million and now told 4 to 5 million, and the old money… and the old money, I was right, was about $13 million dollars which is what we've done for the last several years." Harris, D.: "Okay. And we're up by about 5 million now. And we're making that…"

"Four to five. Yeah, I had earlier thought 3 to 4." Harris, D.: "And we're making that permanent, correct?"

"We are making that permanent." Harris, D.: "Okay. Thank you very much. And just briefly to the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The issue about the old bills is a real issue. Yes, we have Medicaid bills that we have to pay and we want to prioritize those Medicaid bills. But we… the one-time April surprise allowed us to virtually eliminate our backlog of old Medicaid bills. There are vendors out there who are not Medicaid vendors to whom we owe billions of dollars. They deserve a fair shake as well, in terms of getting their payments made in a more timely basis, not just Medicaid providers. I'm very disappointed that we're not also providing money for old bills to those non-Medicaid providers. Thank you."

"Mr. Unes. Mr. Unes."

"Mr. Brady."

"I… I'm… I'm sorry. I thought you were completed." 09800068.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Mr. Brady."

"Sponsor yields."

"Election…"

"…election judges, elections counters and so forth, and then, new this year would also be the Educational Labor Relations Board, the expenses of the State's Educational Labor Relation Board. And again, the theory that what those are that those people are serving essentially a local purpose, disputes between school boards and school teachers."

"Just… just, I think, the election supervisors. I think we had already done the county recorder of deeds and the county clerks, I think. County clerks and county recorders, those we have done. The…"

"…the chief election… the election clerks are new."

"Those are new."

"Some of the elect… election clerks, yes." 09800068.docx 125  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Well, for example, we've already done the State's Attorneys as a permanent proposition a couple of years ago."

"No."

"Not in this Bill."

"Yeah. It was."

"Be…For…"

"For two reasons. First, because the state is short of money, and second, because these are individuals who are serving local purposes. So the decision… our decision is that the locals should bear the responsibility of these additional dollars."

"I said…"

"I said two reasons. First, because we are short of funds, but second, because I believe that these are local responsibilities and I think the locals should step up to the plate and pick up the cost of these stipends. And when it comes to the stipends, the extra money, you know, we could change that law, and I think if the locals don't like having to pay it, then they ought to be coming to us and say get rid of it."

"Well, no. I…"

"I would say that instead we are… we are giving to the locals the financial responsibility to pay for the people that are serving local responsibilities and needs."

"I… I would tell you that, generally speaking, that fund has about $1.5 billion in it. And if the cost of this program is maybe 16 million, you can see that it's not going to happen anytime soon. And remember that the… the Corporate Personal Property Replacement tax that, fund, too, would have been subject to what we like to call the April surprise. So, when I say 1.5 billion that's on average, and I'm sure at the moment the fund is a good deal more flush than that."

"Representative Bellock."

"Lady yields."

"Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm having trouble finding it on the page…"

"…but the idea is that for the newly eligible Medicaid enrollees, it's going to go into the… the provide… the Health Care Provider Relief Fund."

"It's going to… any spending we do, we'll send to the feds, they'll send us the money back, 100 percent of it. So, it's hard to know until we know what kind of enrollment there is, hard to know what the actual dollar value will be. But this will be 100 percent funded by the feds. We will put all of the money into the Health Care Provider Relief Fund."

"You know it depends entirely…"

"…entirely on what kind of up take we… we get in the program. We know that there are 342,000 people who would become eligible under the… under Senate Bill 26. There also are a large number of people who are eligible already. We're eligible for Medicaid but have never taken up the program. So, it's very hard to say of close to 500,000 people if you add the already eligible and the newly eligible, it's hard to know what kind of participation there will be. A lot of people are not likely to pick up the program until they are sick, until they have a particular health care need. That makes it very tricky to… to hypothesize what the numbers will be."

"But… but whatever the number, Representative…"

"…we will get reimbursed 100 percent from the Federal Government, and we will put that money into the Health Care Provider Relief Fund."

"Okay. Let me…"

"Let me see if I can find that number for you. The reason we do it this way is because those receipts always come in… in a big chunk in April. So it is… this is not money that comes in during the regular course of the year that we can then appropriate on a regular basis. So, we always do this. But let me see if I can find out real quick what we think is coming in under that fund. We don't have the answer, but we will get it to you."

"A lot of it still goes into long-term care, some of it goes into GRF. And I can get the percentages to you, I don't have them at hand." 09800068.docx 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Yeah. And now, I'm told that they aren't going into long- term care, maybe we parked them in long-term care."

"If… if we're parking them in Chicago… if we're parking them in Chicago with long-term care, you know, we've got to feed the meter."

"Even… even on Sundays."

"This is only the interest on late payments, and we're doing this at the request of the Comptroller."

"I think that's a different issue, Representative. This is just about prompt payment penalties, and the Comptroller 09800068.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 asked us to do it this way so they can close out last year faster."

"It is correct."

"Yeah. In fact, it turned out we didn’t have to correct that error. The Department can handle the problem by rule so that language is not in Senate Bill 1329 as amended."

"Representative Senger."

"Lady yields."

"No." 09800068.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Some portion does go to Chicago and Cook County. The regional superintendent that no longer is in my neck of the woods was the regional superintendent for the county, I believe."

"Well, you know… and… and one thing that you might think about doing is abolishing your regional superintendents and turning their responsibilities over to the educational, whatever they're called networks, which every, every community has. Some would argue that you don't need an elective post. That, in fact, you do quite well if you went to the education service centers, which I believe are available to all the local schools across Illinois, not just in… in Cook County but other places, too." 09800068.docx 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Well, as I say, you have another option available to you. The regional superintendent was abolished in Cook County and you could do the same in your part of the world."

"I think it was education… Wasn't the education service center? I'm not sure if that’s the right title."

"Well, if… I… I would just argue, Representative, if this is… if these people are serving a local purpose, a local activity, then they ought to be paid for locally. If we don't have one in the City of Chicago, I don't see any reason why you would try to stick me for the bill for someone who is actually providing a service to you in some other part of the state."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Lady yields." 09800068.docx 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Yeah. So, in… in a long ago era, in addition to tax increment financing projects being able to access property tax improvements, new money coming in because a tip was successful, there also was a state sales tax portion, so that as the state's sales tax rose, then that money went into the TIF fund too. The problem was that locals pretty quickly figured out that if you have a sales tax TIF, you can encourage all of your car dealers to move from here, where there is no TIF, to here, where there's a new one. And then all of the increment… the state sales tax increment, much of it went to the locals. Well, that didn't seem a very sensible proposition from the state perspective. So, we did shut it down, I think, sometime in the mid '80's. Some of that sales tax revenue, I think, still was kept by the state, and it is that money that we are now at the end of."

"Exactly. By… by, I think, September 1 the last payment, last distribution and then by the end of December, we're done with the whole fund."

"This is called cleanup. This is called accountability and efficiency in Illinois State government."

"No, there… I… I didn't see any fund sweeps in the Bill. I looked… I looked hard through all 217 pages, and I didn't see any."

"Yeah."

"I wouldn't call them sweeps. I would say that road fund money can be used to pay for various…"

"…appropriately connected activities. And these I think were decisions that were made in the Appropriations Committee's concern that there might not be enough GRF to go around."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Leader Currie to close."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. I certainly meant no disrespect to the regional offices of education nor to the regional superintendents who lead them. My point only was that if the burden of paying for their services is too heavy a burden for the school districts that they serve, then there is another option open to people at the local level. I do believe in local control, local governments. So, just to finish up, this Bill is necessary if we are to imple… implement the budget that has already been approved by this Legislature and will be signed by the Governor. There are very important provisions here. I do think it is worth saying one more time that local responsibilities should be paid for at the local level. That's what this does with respect to the regional superintendents, the county recorders, the county clerks, election clerks, and I see no… no reason why we should not continue that practice. I urge your 'aye' vote. Remember, we have already paid more than $5 billion in old debt in the 09800068.docx 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 current fiscal year, more than we ever expected we would be able to do. This budget will enable us to pull down our debt by another $1.25 billion. So, 6.25 billion and counting is not something to sneeze at. We should not be uncomfortable about our fiscal practices. I urge your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Manley, Yingling. Please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk."

"Under the Order of Senate Bills-Second Reading appears Senate Bill 1910, Mr. Bradley. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bradley."

"I'd like to adopt the Amendment and… and debate it on Third if necessary." 09800068.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Is there objection? Seeing no objection, those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"An objection to moving it to Third? Seeing none, those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bradley."

"This is an initiative that, a year ago or so we took many people, I think about 3,000 out of the collective bargaining agreements in the State of Illinois. This would put a small number back. It's around 100 or less. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Bost."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct."

"I thought it was over 3,000, Representative, but I don’t know the exact number."

"No, just like a hundred or less."

"I've got a list of some kind of identifying jobs, but chief stationery engineer, assistant chief stationery engineer, sewage plant operator, water plant operator, civil engineer, et cetera."

"I… I think there was an over… there was a thought maybe it was a bit overreaching, and this… I understand this is an agreement between the Governor's Office and the unions that were affected by this."

"That's correct."

"This is small, less than a hundred, hundred or less out of 3,500, 3,500."

"Yeah. I… I guess I didn't understand your question. We took them out of the collective bargaining a year ago… a year ago. They've been in collective bargaining previously."

"Now, there's some that…"

"Gosh, I… it probably was around the time you started, which means I would've been around grade school."

"I'm sorry. I was looking at the Representative to your right. Since 2008, these are the only people that were put in the union since 2008."

"Okay."

"Mr. Bradley to close."

"Ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. It's Friday. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Poe. Please take the record. On this question, there are 89 voting 'yes', 29 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On Supplemental Calendar #1, under the Order of Resolutions, appears Senate Joint Resolution 32, Representative Will Davis. Please proceed, Sir. Representative Davis. Take a breath first, Sir." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the chamber. We are fortunate to have in front of us Senate Joint Resolution 32. There has been a great deal of conversation about school funding, what that means, should it change, should it be different. A lot of conversation about 09800068.docx 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 that. It is our desire that this Resolution be the beginning of a conversation toward trying to figure out an answer to some of these questions. In the past years, as Chair, we talked a lot about making changes and how the general state aid formally is distributed. But unfortunately, we engage in those conversations a little bit later in our appropriations process. So, we are committed to, not necessarily because of this Resolution, but we are committed to engaging in that conversation a lot sooner. This Resolution should begin this dialogue in a way that allows us to really be able to delve into what changes, if any, there should be, and how we distribute the state funds that we have to schools. I would be more than happy to answer any additional questions."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Gentleman yields."

"Mr. Riley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Davis, I'd like to commend you for this Resolution. Let me just ask you a question. You know, some of us, both in and out of the Legislature, have been working on this problem an awful long time. Can you sort of give me a… your own take on what I think is the myriad sources of information, old Bills that we tried to pass, some of the commissions that we've talked about earlier, all the information that's out there for this commission to be able to look at as… as background?" Davis, W.: "You said what… what is my take on all of that?"

"Yeah. What's your take on all of the task forces that we've had, the legislation that we've passed like 750 and so forth, don't you think there's a copious amount of information that this task force could use as background for the planning that they want to do in the future?" Davis, W.: "Oh, absolutely, Representative. Again, not knowing all of the previous commissions or task force groups that came before us to look at this issue, at the very least since I've been here, you know, we talked a lot a bit… a lot about what was House Bill 750 which was the funding shift that would put the onus back on the state to properly fund education, while relieving the burden on some of the taxpayers. So, that's at least one thing that I can speak to since I've been down here. Again, as I've mentioned, I'm sure there were a number of other things prior to me being here that I've heard 09800068.docx 146  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 about but don't necessarily know all the… all the details to. But I'm sure there has been no shortage of individuals in this chamber for years that have talked about funding schools, can we do it better, should we change it, all of those questions. And I think one of the… at least one of the differences that I will say that in terms of maybe where those committees and those commissions were as to where we are now, or least somewhere. You know the appropriations process used to really be concentrated with a few individuals. A few individuals used to make all of those decisions for the appropriations and it was… when I got here, it was former… former Representative Hannig that used to be that floor leader who would then argue all of the appropriations Bills. Obviously, the biggest change that took place is when that power was then really given back to the committees and the appropriations chairs to make these kinds of decisions about that. And so, now, in my opinion, we have a different context in which to have this dialogue. And what you've got all of the appropriations chairs looking at their issues, so it'll be really easy for us, me and whoever else is on that committee as… for me as appropriations Chair to really just focus solely on this one issue and really try to drive home that something needs to be different, something needs to be changed with that, and… and we're looking for some positive results."

"Thank you so much. Hope to be on the commission myself. I support whole-heartedly your Resolution."

"Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 09800068.docx 147  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Sponsor yields."

"I want to stand in strong support of SJR 32. I also want to go on the record and commend Representative Will Davis, not only for sponsoring this Resolution here in the House, but for all of the work that he's done for K through 12 schools. I truly see him as a champion for our schools here in the State of Illinois. But I also want to commend Senator Andy Manar, a freshman Legislator, who has taken on this… this issue over on his side. This is so important. It's a major issue that has to be addressed. It's an issue that I've talked about repeatedly as a former school board member. In 1954, Chief Justice Earl Warren's court, in Brown v. Board of Education, said that the segregation of students in public schools violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment because separate facilities are inherently unequal. We know what they were talking about with the segregation of students in 1954, but when you look at the way we fund our schools in the State of Illinois, we have the very same thing that Kansas had in 1954. We've got schools that are failing to perform academically, and if you look at them, they're largely minority schools districts. They're largely school districts that don't have the same socio-economic means as other school districts. But yet, these school districts that are well to do still receive significant general… general revenue funds from the State Board of Education. It's just not fair. We have to change the way we fund schools in Illinois. Right now, the State of Illinois Board of Education says they can take over 77 school districts in this state, 77, and most of those school districts have socio-economic 09800068.docx 148  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 problems. What's wrong with that picture? This Resolution needs to be adopted, it needs to be adopted today, because right now Illinois is taking us back to 1954 with segregated schools. Thank you."

"Mr. Leitch."

"Yes, Sir. There will."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Resolution. I want to start by commending Representative Davis for all the work he's done on schools over the years as well as Senator Manar. In partial reply to the previous Gentleman's question, I want to say that this is the single biggest thing we can do for economic competitiveness in this state and that we have a problem, not just with our poor urban districts, but also with our poor rural districts. This is a problem for which the face has commonly been black and brown but which also affects some of our poor white students, especially in far flung suburbs or rural areas. This is the single biggest thing, fixing education funding, that we can do for our state that affects all of us, regardless of the color of our skin. 09800068.docx 149  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 I strongly support this Resolution. I hope that everyone will as well. Thank you."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Mr. Davis to close." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to… a couple of things that were said earlier. Representative Leitch mentioned that this is a money grab from downstate school districts. Well, the Senate Sponsor of this Bill is from Springfield, that's very well south of I-80, and I'm sure his intent is not to take money from downstate school districts. And I don't know if that Representative has ever traveled anywhere else in the state, but if he came to the south suburbs, he would see that school districts in my area are no different than downstate school districts in terms of lack of resources and the trouble that they're having as well. So, I would invite him to come to my district and let's tour some schools. Then I can show you the comparisons between schools in southern Illinois and schools in suburban Cook as well. And then, the last speaker talked about… talked about that this is kind of part of a shell game. Maybe that's his interpretation of this, but I don't see school funding as any shell game. It is probably one of the most important issues 09800068.docx 151  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 that we have to deal with in addition to pensions and the other things that he mentioned. It's on that list. So, this is an effort to try to address those issues in this big context of what we call the State of Illinois and all of the other issues that we have to address. Now, this is merely a Resolution, so it's about meeting and talking and trying to come to some resolve. And again, and I want to thank in a very special way Representative Sosnowski, who originally had picked up this Resolution and was kind enough to turn over sponsorship to me. And I really, really appreciate that. And as you can see, he's also a hyphenated Sponsor of this Resolution as well. And if you go online, in your systems, you will see the growing list of Representatives who apparently think that this issue is important enough to sign on as a cosponsor, sign on as a cosponsor, Ladies and Gentlemen. Now, I can argue that this is the most important thing because of the committee that I chair. Someone who chairs another committee may argue that that is the most important thing and… and the list goes on depending on what your issue is or what committee you chair down here. But Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the one thing that all of us run on when we run for reelection is education, improving it, making it better, supporting it, whatever the case may be. So, here's an opportunity for us to, in a bipartisan way, collectively look at the issue to see if there's something that we, as a state, can do to make it better for all of the students. I would love for my communities to be like Elmhurst, to have resources, you know, to have fledgely… to have fantastic hospitals. If you're on Roosevelt Road and you 09800068.docx 152  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 drive, you see a beautiful, brand new, large Elmhurst hospital. I would love to have that in my district. Love it. But unfortunately, my communities are not like your communities. They're struggling, but they’re trying to get better. What we see is where we want to go. Where we want to be, that's what we see. What this is, is about trying to raise up the entire State of Illinois and not bring anybody down. Thank you all for your support on this Resolution."

"Mr. Reboletti, you spoke in debate, Sir."

"Your hometown was used in debate?"

Speaker Lang: "No, Sir. Those in favor of the Gentleman's Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. McAuliffe. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 8 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. Mr. Ford."

"Personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please proceed."

"Can a church please say Amen?"

"Mr. Reboletti defending his hometown."

"Please proceed."

"On page 6 of the Calendar appears Senate Bill 2389, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Nekritz."

"Than… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 is a very technical cleanup to the cost shift Bill that we passed yesterday that clar… and the Amendment simply clarifies that the universities do not pay twice for some of their employees."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Nekritz."

"It's the same thing I said before." 09800068.docx 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Those in favor of the Bill, vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke, Dunkin, Manley, Mitchell, Riley, Tabares, Yingling. Mr. Yingling. Please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk."

"Leader Currie for a Motion."

"Thank you, Speaker. I suspend… I move to suspend the posting requirement so that the Amendments to House Bill 183, now on the Concurrence Calendar, can be heard immediately without waiting for the one hour interval."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Motion say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk, under the Order of Concurrence appears House Bill 183. Mr. Phelps."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. House Bill 183, we have Amendments 5, 6, and 7. I would ask for their adoption and debate this on Third."

"This is final action on c0oncurrence, Sir. Do you have any opening comments on the Bill?"

"Yes, I do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As we know what this Bill is, this is the 09800068.docx 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 concealed carry Bill, what we we're trying to do for the June 9th court ruling before we go over the cliff. Just to let everybody know, this just passed the Senate 45 to 12. We are right on the… we are on the right track with this. I want to thank many Members of the General Assembly, which I'm going to do now. I want to thank Leader Mautino, Leader Bradley, Representative Costello, Representative Bost, Representative Sullivan, Representative Reboletti, Beiser, Reis and Verschoore. Also, I want to thank Representative Ford for his task force on this. I want to thank Senator Raoul, Bivins, Haine, Forby, Righter, Sullivan and Manar. This is a very historic day. I never thought this day would come. We’re one step closer to getting this done. And I just urge an 'aye' vote."

"Gentleman moves that the House to concur on Senate Amendments. The Chair recognizes Mr. Bost."

"Mr. Bradley." 09800068.docx 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"I just want to congratulate my dear friend, Brandon Phelps, who I grew up with, and the work he's done on this. I want to thank the Republicans, City of Chicago, people from throughout the state. Yesterday and today, we showed through the passage of legislation yesterday, and the possible passage of this legislation here today, that we can work together in a democratic process and we can do what's best for the people in the State of Illinois. The day has come, the day is now. Conceal and carry is coming to Illinois. Thank you all very much."

"Representative Mayfield."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, can you explain, we just got this Bill so I haven’t had a chance to look through it. The duty to inform, what are the stipulations for that?"

"If law enforcement asks you, you have the duty to inform them."

"That's only if you're asked? You do not have to vol… you do not have to put that information forward prior to being asked?"

"Right. We made that change for Representative Davis."

"Okay. I appreciate that change because that was a major concern in my district. Another question I have for you is in regard to the second concerns… concurrence where they've taken out the word 'concealed', so is this going to be open carry? I'm a little confused on that concurrence." 09800068.docx 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"No. Not at… not at all, Representative. That was a technical change, it… dealing with the preemption language, so it's just concealed."

"Okay. And how does this handle magazines?"

"It preempts magazines, anything to do with carry… yeah, magazines for only hand guns, not for assault weapons."

"So, we are banning magazines for assault weapons in this Bill?"

"No. Not at all. Not at all. We're allowing for local municipalities to regulate magazines for assault weapons but not hand guns."

"Okay. And then a final question that Representative Monique Davis had brought up when we were in caucus in regard to the arrest. It says that five arrests for any reason. Arrests are not considered convictions, so five arrests in a seven year period. We have individuals in minority communities that are arrested and picked up regularly and put into line up. So this would exclude them regardless of whether they committed a crime or not."

"That's just an automatic objection that goes into the review board that we set up on the… that a lot of people wanted to kind of give some balances and some checks of who the bad apples are, so to speak. So, they would get their day in court, so to speak, on that, but these are for petty offenses and petty arrests. They will not be charged with anything on this. They will just get their day in front of the review board, Representative."

"Would that include gnarly process?"

"I'm sorry. What?" 09800068.docx 158  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Will that include gnarly process, arrest without convictions, gnarly processes. Will those be excluded?"

"You me due process?"

"Gnarly process, meaning that no action was taken on those individuals."

"I'm not understanding the question. I apologize."

"It's something that happens quite often in minority communities where they are picked up, arrested, but then not processed."

"Oh. Not processed, I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. If they were arrested, yes. But if they can demonstrate they're not a threat to themselves and society, they will be okay."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, to the Bill. I… I'd like to thank Representative Phelps. I'd also like to thank the… our colleagues on the other side of the aisle, Representative Bost, Representative Reboletti, Representative Sullivan, and all of the rest of you who… who have worked on this with us for months now. It's really been a… a great exercise in how bar… bipartisan legislation should come about. I'd also like to thank the Speaker, who… who really helped this process and worked with us to make sure that there were gives and takes on both sides to come a piece of legislation that can be accepted for this state and also still protects the Second Amendment rights of the citizens of this state. And I would like to ask the Sponsor a couple of questions if the Sponsor would yield, please?" 09800068.docx 159  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Sponsor yields."

"So, for the purposes of legislative intent, Representative Phelps, this Bill lists numerous sensitive places in which the General Assembly has decided to parti… prohibit the carrying of firearms. For the purpose of legislative intent, can you explain the scope of carrying in a park?"

"The Bill prohibits carrying in a public park located in a municipality, under the control of a municipality, or park district. This does not prohibit carrying in state parks, forest preserves, conservation areas, and other open space areas. The intent is to keep guns away from all areas where children play, athletic fields including soccer and baseball fields, basketball courts and open recreation areas. This intent is not to prohibit carrying on walking trails or bike paths that may pass through or are located adjacent to public parks. This does not mean that all property controlled by a park district is considered a prohibited area. For example, the beaches and docks along Lake Michigan may be controlled by the Chicago Park District, but they are not parks, and therefore they are not prohibited areas."

"And also, with most of the prohibited areas, the limitation on carrying depends whether or not an entity has control over the property. For the purpose of legislative intent, what is meant by 'under the control'?"

"The… the term 'under the control' means the authority to exercise power or influence over, to regulate or control. I'm referencing the definition of control from Black's Law Dictionary. For example, a licensee cannot carry concealed 09800068.docx 160  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 firearm into a building or portion of a building owned, leased, or occupied by an officer of the Executive or Legislative branch of government. That means you cannot carry within a state building. This includes, but is not limited to, the Capitol and the state buildings within the Capitol Complex, Thompson Center, Bilandic Building, Secretary of State's drivers' license facilities or correctional institutions and offices owned or leased by any other constitutional officer. I'd like to point out that there is an exception for some property controlled by DNR. The intent is to ensure that persons using DNR parks and recreation areas can carry if the location falls under the designated by DNR."

"And is there anything in the Bill, other than the parking lot exemption, that would allow employers, as a condition of employment, to prohibit employees from being in possession of a concealed weapon during the course of their employment?"

"No."

"Can you explain, and this is very important for the Body, can you explain the scope of the preemption language?"

"Under this Bill, the state is exercising its power to be the exclusive regulator of hand guns and ammunition. Units of local government will not be permitted to establish local ordinances or regulations concerning the regulation, licensing, possession, carrying, and transportation of hand guns or ammunition. Any ordinance currently in effect would be invalidated and units of government would be precluded from enforcing any future ordinances. We are allowing local governments to continue enforce ordinance related to assault 09800068.docx 161  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 weapons, but only ordinances adopted no later than 10 days after the effective date of this Act. Going forward, those communities will have an opportunity to amend such ordinances, but no new ordinances may be adopted."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, it's a proven fact, statistically, that crime goes down when concealed carry is implemented. This is a great piece of legislation. Again, I commend the Sponsor. And I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I realize the late hour, but it's still not soup. We… we still go too far with preemption. We are still talking about preempting assault weapons bans in home rule communities. If you don't already have one, too late. The beaches, do you really need a gun at the beach? And where are you going to conceal it when you're at the beach? Really. The parking lot issue is another that troubles me deeply. What is to stop someone from just going and getting their gun and bringing it in? We cannot have this one size fits all approach that does not respect the differences in our communities. It's not soup. It's close, it's brothy, but it's not soup. Vote 'no'."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, can you go through what the prohibition is in terms of places where alcohol is served?"

"So, we decided that bars cannot carry. We decided that 50 percent of the gross receipts for food you could, but Representative Williams, there's also a safeguard in there 09800068.docx 162  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 for the business owner. They could post if you don't… they don't want guns… concealed weapons in their facility."

"Okay. So why did you decide to limit the carrying or prohibit the carrying of guns in bars?"

"Because bars is just in general, that was the agreement that we had with all the groups involved at the negotiating table on this Bill."

"I guess I mean what… what's wrong with having a gun in a bar?"

"Like it… again, Representative Williams, some of mine, I don't know if there is something wrong. We are going to leave that up to the owner, but we came to that middle ground agreement in this Bill that says 50 percent of gross receipts is okay if there's food involved."

"So, did you have any concerns about the safety of alcohol mixed with loaded firearms?"

"Absolutely. That's why we upped the penalties. Not only for that, if you… if it's posted and you come in, there will be penalties on that person. Also, when you're carrying under the influence, so to speak, we upped the penalties on that, because no one should be having a gun while they're under the influence."

"Okay. Well, what about restaurants that serve alcohol? Have you thought to include that?"

"I don’t think there's anything wrong if I want to go, and this is not a, you know, an endorsement, but if I wanted to go to Applebee's or Indigo and sitting there, just having food, being able to protect myself and my family. I don't think there's…" 09800068.docx 163  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Oh. Okay. So…"

"…anything wrong with that."

"Oh. So, you're saying that if you're in a restaurant, you can't consume alcohol if you have a gun? Would you support that? Is that in the Bill?"

"You probably could, Representative Williams, but it will still be up to you to take that chance of being under the influence, so therefore, no, I would not want to do that."

"So, there's not a prohibition against drinking and carrying a concealed loaded weapon and being in a crowded restaurant with other people who may or may not be carrying. So, you are not banning drinking and carrying a loaded weapon and that exactly… to the Bill. This is the problem I have with this, in addition to the numerous issues that Representative Cassidy addressed. The 50 percent reference in the Bill is completely a false reference. What does that have to do with whether an individual is consuming alcohol in an unsafe way while carrying and handling a loaded weapon? For this and many other reasons, I urge a 'no' vote. This Bill is not ready."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. First of all, I think the Sponsor deserves tremendous credit. This… this Bill is a lot better than the first version of it we saw. It, I think, respects Second Amendment rights while also making sure that there isn't an issue with people transporting firearms to and forth across jurisdictions. But I retain a couple of concerns that… that still leave me as a 'no' vote. The first is that we still don't have a regulation of private 09800068.docx 164  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 hand gun transfers. It's my understanding the Sponsor and others have worked on something to that affect and that will be coming over soon and that's very encouraging. I still retain concern that the ISP is not ready for the sheer volume of what's about to come in, meaning that inherently, folks who, according to the statute, should not have weapons could have access to them. And finally, I just have to push back on this idea that somehow conceal carry makes folks safer. The research being referred to is year over year, but none of it's longitudinal. It is not borne out. Data sets have been lost. There is not a study that shows that concealed carry, for anything other than a one year change, makes us any safer. So, we can talk about Second Amendment rights, I think that makes a lot of sense, but the idea that somehow this is going to make us any safer is not backed up by data. Respect how much better this Bill's gotten, still not quite done. I urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Mr. Phelps to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Let me say, again, I want to thank all the working group on both sides of the aisle. I want to thank Brandon Nemec and Heather Wier Vaught. I want to thank Senator Raoul that's joined us in here today. And most of all, I want to 09800068.docx 165  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 thank the one person that has taken this to the next level, Speaker Mike Madigan. For him, we owe a lot of thanks, and I don't want to forget him ever. Crime has gone down in every state where there's been concealed carry. No other state has repealed it. We've got 'til June the 9 to go off the cliff. Don't let your constituents go off the cliff. The Senate passed this 45 to 12. This is an historic day for law-abiding gun owners in this state because they're going to get to exercise their Second Amendment right. I urge an 'aye' vote. And thanks again."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 89 voting 'yes', 28 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 5, 6, and 7 to House Bill 183. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Jones."

"Mr. Speaker, I meant to vote 'yes'. I think my seatmate turned my switch off, but can I please be recorded as a 'yes' on a…"

"The record will reflect your intentions, Sir. Senate Bill 2155, Mr. Bradley. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Bradley."

"This is not a trailer Bill to the fracking Bill. It is a follow-up. The local communities of southern Illinois need to make some modifications to local tax reporting and also with regards to addition of new property evaluation. I don't know of any opposition to this. It passed out of committee unanimously. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bradley, do you have anything further?"

"I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 104 voting 'yes', 13 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Acevedo."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On House Bill 183, my button was pressed 'yes'. I'd like to be recorded as a 'present'."

"The record will reflect your intentions, Sir. On page 7 of the Calendar, under Concurrence, appears House Bill 192, Mr. Drury." 09800068.docx 167  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask that the… the House concer… concur in Amendment #2 to House Bill 192. This basically allows my local high school district to issue bonds for a 25- year period. A high school referendum was recently passed by the voters in that district, and this is just the enacting legislation that we need to do to get the fund in."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Brady, Hays, Smith, Tracy. Mr. Brady. Please take the record. On this question, there are 63 voting 'yes', 55 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 192. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1573, Mr. Jefferson. Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with Senate Amendment 2 on House Bill 1573."

"That… would that be 1 and 2, Sir?"

"One and two."

"Could you briefly explain them?"

"Yes. It doubles the beer barrels from 15 thousand to 30 thousand."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Kay, Roth. Mr. Kay. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 1573. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 09800068.docx 168  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 declared passed. House Bill 2720, Mr. Rita. Out of the record. House Bill 3043, David Harris, please proceed." Harris, D.: "Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur with the Senate Amendments to House Bill 3043. The basic Bill that was introduced dealt with the issue of vandalism of historic sites. What the Senate did was to address an issue of uniformity of sentencing regarding the vandalism. They also took out the specificity dealing with historic sites, which I would've liked to have left in, but I understand the need to do this for uniformity of sentencing. And I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, so why do we need this Bill anymore? It doesn't deal with historic sites, and it says you have to pay for any defacement that you do. Isn't that already the law?" Harris, D.: "Well, the one thing that they did leave in there was the fact that you have to pay for the defacement if there is any. And this…"

"But isn't that already the law?" Harris, D.: "Apparently not. This says if… what they put in was that they have to pay the mandatory $500 minimum, whereas, the initial Bill said you had to pay for… they made it a petty offense, and you had to pay for whatever cost it was to repair it. Because it was property damage and inconsistent with other penalties in the code, they made it consistent, but they left in the fact that you have to pay a minimum $500 fine." 09800068.docx 169  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"And would you still have to pay for any damage caused by the defacement?" Harris, D.: "As it said here… as it reads here, no. You certainly have to pay the minimum $500."

"I'm just wondering does that weaken it at all? I'm just… maybe I'm having trouble hearing you." Harris, D.: "It could… it could… I don't think it weakens it, in that it's still making a Class III or Class IV felony depending on the property damage, but there is a minimum $500 fine in it."

"And now is… and that's what, I guess, my question is, is the minimum $500 fine on top of the actual cost caused by the defacement? Because… my question is this, let me give you real life example." Harris, D.: "Right."

"A thousand dollars worth of damage to a historical site. Is it going to be $1,000 to pay for the damage and then a $500 fine or is it a $500 fine, minimum?" Harris, D.: "Right. And as example, if the damage is $1,000 and you're saying all you have to pay is $500, you're getting away easy."

"Right." Harris, D.: "However, what this does is says in addition to any other sentence that may be imposed, you have a $500 fine."

"So, the judge could still impose a sentence of making them pay back the cost for the defacement?" Harris, D.: "That is correct." 09800068.docx 170  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Okay. So, this will actually increase the penalty because you'll have at least a minimum $500 fine notwithstanding anything else the judge may do?" Harris, D.: "If… if the damage is less than $500, yes it would potentially increase it because you have a min… a $500 minimum."

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sente, Tracy, Williams. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3043. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3104, Mr. Sosnowski. Mr. Sosnowski. Out of the record. Oh, here comes Mr. Sosnowski. House Bill 3104."

"Can you please explain the Amendment to us, Sir?"

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bellock, Cavaletto, Unes. Mr. Cavaletto. Please take the record. On this question, there are 98 voting 'yes', 19 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 3104. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3349, Mr. Tryon. Mr. Tryon. Out of the record. House Bill 3390, Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to concur in Senate Amendments 1, 2, and 3 to House Bill 3390. Senate Amendments #2 and 3 become the Bill. The Bill now makes four changes to the Workers Compensation Act. It eliminates a $35 fee that employers and employees pay to the Workers Compensation Commission when they want to appeal their case from the Commissions to the circuit court. It ends a requirement that the Commission send out informational… its informational handbook which is a six… $62 thousand savings to the Commission's budget. It also requires the Commission to obtain an interpreter for injured employees 09800068.docx 172  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 who cannot understand English and who have not brought their own interpreter when they're signing a settlement contract to the ethic commission. And finally, it makes technical changes to the portion of the Workers Compensation Act involving the appointment of arbitrators and the Commission. The Bill is supported by the Worker's Compensation Commission, IRMA, the IMA, the Chamber of Commerce. I know of no opposition. I'd be happy to answer questions."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1, 2, and 3 to House Bill 3390. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Hays."

"I have no comment on that subject, Sir."

"Check back with me. Senate Bills-Third Reading. Senate Bill 1659, Mr. Turner. Mr. Clerk, please place this Bill on the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill."

"Mr. Turner." 09800068.docx 173  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. I'd just like to adopt Floor Amendment #2. It just puts the language back in the Bill."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. 1659 is a Bill that modifies the requirements in the amounts of exist… existing tax credits for businesses who hire… who hire ex- offenders. It increases the tax credit to a maximum of $1500 a year. It was previous $600 and we're trying to give businesses incentives to hire those who are just being released from prison. The ex-offender must've been hired within three years, and anyone who has been convicted of a sex crime or an attempted sex offense is not eligible. There was no opposition that I know of on the Bill. It's had minimal cost to the state. I believe it was close to $13 thousand in FY '11 according to COGFA reports. And I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Cabello."

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"No, Sir. It's not a mandate at all. This is just an option for business… for business owners and employers and an… an opportunity for… for those being just released from prison."

"Thank you."

"I believe that it will. For those employers who decide to take advantage of this, they will… they will benefit from the $1500 tax credit. But more importantly, for those who are recently released from prison and looking to, you know, acclimate back into the neighborhood and be a productive part of society having served their time and done their… what… what they had to do as far as their state requirements. This is a great opportunity for them as well."

"I'll support anything like that, Sir."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Gentleman yields."

"That's correct, Representative."

"That's very fair to say, Representative."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields." 09800068.docx 176  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Sure, Representative. We… we've passed legislation here on the floor to deal with expungements and other programs to help ex-offenders in… in our… in our jail system that's frankly busting at the seams with inmates. And as they are re-released into the community and look to become a part of society, again, a productive part of society and provide for their families, this will provide an incentive to employers to hire these people and help them get back on track as the… and when we are… they'll back in our communities and we'll have to deal with them anyway. So we're just trying to provide opportunities."

"So, for… the… the current legislation is that the requirement is one year. This will move it to ex-offenders must have been hired within three years of… of being released and for a lot of mental… for a lot of our expungement processes and things like that… hold on one second, Representative."

"In most expungement proceedings, you have to wait for a period of time before being able to apply for it… that expungement. And if they pass the three year threshold, in this case, they wouldn't be eligible."

"You're welcome."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Gentleman yields."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"Sponsor yields." 09800068.docx 178  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"The… the cost for the implementation of this program… the program has been in… in use and available for years and it's been minimal to the state. We're talking about $10 thousand on average to the state. And we're trying to get people to use this program more because of the benefits that come from it. This is a very depressed group of citizens who have… who have had trouble in the past with finding employment, with becoming productive parts of… of society again, having paid their debt to society and… and served time in our systems already. So, this is a good Bill, not only for my community, but for the State of Illinois and for all of those who are… are trying to… you end up saving money and recidivism as far as how… how much it costs to keep these people in jail. If you get them working again, you give them jobs where they can provide for their families, they don't have to commit crimes, then we're saving the state money."

"Absolutely. Absolutely."

"Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir."

"Yes, Sir. Another very, very important part of our society as well, veterans and all that they do for us."

"Yes. But that wouldn't necessarily pertain to this Bill, Sir. This is… in… in those situations, they would've already passed the time limit that you would have had to hire."

"Yes, Sir. Yes."

"Yes. Yes, Sir."

"Thank you very much, Representative."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Certainly, I want to commend Representative Turner on what he's attempting to do. And just to kind of continue on the last speaker's comments, there's nothing wrong with doing this, Ladies and Gentlemen. We pass tax breaks all the time. 09800068.docx 180  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 If we can tax… okay. All right. If we can pass one for Sears and the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, a tax break for them, then why can't we offer a tax break to employers who want to hire an ex-offender? Why is that such a bad thing? Many of you here run on the platform of being tough on crime and that's fantastic that you can be tough on crime. But if the individual has committed the crime, they've been sentenced to the crime, they served time for the crime, they have paid their debts. So, what are you being tough on? You're being tough on keeping your foot on their neck? Is that what you're being tough on? There… there is nothing wrong with this. Nothing wrong with this. So, I would encourage everyone to vote 'yes'. Is that… is that better? Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Turner, I want to thank you for bringing restorative justice to the House Floor. And I want to ask you, did you're father encourage you to do this?"

"No, but this is something that he would definitely get behind had he… had he been here serving. This is an initiative of Rep… Senator Van Pelt and myself, as well as a host of others who have chimed in on why this legislation is important, so…"

"Well, thank you. And to the Bill. I just want to say thank you to the other side for speaking in favor of su… of a Bill like this. I think it's the sign of… of times where we come together on a note where we provide second chances for people 09800068.docx 181  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 that need it. So, I want to thank all of the people on the right for standing up for Leader Turner. And I think this is the type of Bill that will take people off of the dependency of the state and put them on the tax roll to pay taxes so that the state can close its deficit and put more people to work. So, congratulations, Leader Turner."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Mr. Tryon."

"Can I ask you to hold off a second? Ladies and Gentlemen, could we hold down the noise level. If you have private conversations, please retire to the rear of the chamber. Please proceed, Sir."

"Mr. Turner to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. I'd just like to thank everyone who helped, you know, secure support for this legislation on… on both sides of the aisle. You guys have been great and great… great to work with. And I think this is a great show of bipartisanship and a good piece of legislation for the entire state. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Bost. Please take the record. On this question, there are 91 voting 'yes', 27 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3349, under Concurrence, Mr. Tryon."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Gordon. Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 2, 3, and 5 to House Bill 3349. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 8 of the Calendar is House Bill 2720, Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to concur in Senate Amendments #1 and 2 to… just a technical provision for IDOT and the county engineers to… for the appraisal and an appraisal work. It's an agreed piece of legislation. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to House Bill 2720. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2721, Mr. Rita. Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I move to concur in Senate Amendment #1. Again, this is another technical change for the Court Reporters Licensure Act, puts a certificate in with… for circuit courts. It's 09800068.docx 184  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 agreed legislation. The… the Senate Amendment is agreed to. I'd ask for a favorable vote."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"I was thinking about it."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Motion will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the House does concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 2721. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, please tell us the status on Senate Bill 1006."

"Third Reading. Please read the Bill for a third time."

"Mr. Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1006 amends the Juvenile Court Act of 1987 and the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963. Specifically, it deals with a procedural rule 09800068.docx 185  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 regarding the list of offenses for which law enforcement must electronically record custodial interrogations in order to avoid an evidentiary presumption. To address concerns that have been raised by law enforcement, the list offenses is rolled out over a period of three years beginning in June of 2014 and ending in June of 2016. The statute also cures a loophole in the… the current procedural rule that right now does not always allow for the recording of an entire interview, but this would currently allow this. The procedural rule has many exceptions including the recording would not be required if it's not feasible. And I'd like to point out that Illinois was the first state to require electronic recording of interviews, but since that time, 17 other states have adopted rules that are more expansive than the rule that Illinois currently has. Why do we want to do this? There are long term cost savings associated with this. There will be less false accusations by suspects of police officers, which will allow the police officers to do their jobs. There will be faster plea agreements in court, which will free up time in our court system. There will be fewer wrongfully incarcerated individuals. At last count, wrongfully convicted individuals have spent 721 years in prison at a cost to the State of Illinois of over $10 million. And there will be fewer lawsuits brought by people who have been wrongfully convicted. And currently, the cost to municipalities in the state has been over $300 million. Many local jurisdictions have already taken on this task of recording more than is required by the statute including the Naperville Police Department, Chatham Police Department, the 09800068.docx 186  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Knox County Sheriff, the East St. Louis Police Department, and several others. And I know of no opposition to the Bill. The Cook County State's Attorney is a proponent and helped work on the Bill with us as well as the Illinois State's Attorney Association. I ask for a… I ask that the Body concur."

"Mr. Sacia."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Durkin."

"Sponsor yields."

"I'm sorry. Could you repeat the question, Representative?"

"That… that's not entirely correct, Representative."

"There… currently… as the statute currently exists for homicide cases, if a recording isn’t made, there's a presumption of inadmissibility. In June of 2014, that presumption will also apply to predatory criminals, sexual assault of minors, and aggravated arsons. In June of 2015, it would apply to aggravated kidnappings, aggravated car jackings, and home invasions. And in June of 2016, it would apply to aggravated assault with a firearm, armed robbery, and aggravated criminal sexual assault. And…"

"You had said a juvenile who comes on any interrogation. This is just specifically limited to eight felonies, and that was the agreement that we reached working with… cooperatively with the State's Attorneys Association, the State's Attorney's Office in Chicago."

"Yeah. There's several exceptions that the… the prosecutors can come forward with which would show that the… the statement 09800068.docx 191  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 can still come into evidence. And one, to address Mr. Sacia's concerns, is feasibility. If… if the equipment isn't there and it's not feasible, then this doesn't apply and that's why this is not a mandate. This is a procedural rule. We're not requiring anything. We're mer…"

"Yes. And they're all neutral on it."

"The… the courts will define feasibility. The reason, I believe, that you haven't found it is because with the statute as it exists, the prosecutors haven't had to raise this case beca… this issue because it doesn't come up that much because…"

"…the sy… the system works. And so, I have the… the upmost respect for the… the judges in our state and I'm absolutely confident that they will be able to define feasibility." 09800068.docx 192  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"I'm sorry. Can you repeat that?"

"If it wasn’t feasible for them to obtain the equipment, to have any recording devices, this isn't just video, it's electronic recording. If they could establish that it wasn’t feasible for them to have any recording device, yes, they could… they could use that exception."

"I… I would leave that up to the… the individual prosecutors and State's Attorneys to make the decision of what evidence they need to present. We have very experienced State's Attorneys in this state, and they can determine what evidence they need to make their case."

"I… I think that… that I've already answered that question. And the statute, Mr. Durkin or Representative Durkin, I should say, has been in place since 2005. So, we're not changing the definition of 'feasibility', we're not adding to it. This is a statute that currently exists."

"All we're doing…"

"And… and what I'm telling you, Mr… Representative Durkin, is we're not chan… this language has existed since 2005, we're not changing that."

"This is in place."

"I believe the statute says 17 and below, but if the law we pass out of this House, changes it to 18, I think we would come back and change that as well."

"That would depend on the offense, but the 13 would be for cer… 13 years of would be for certain offenses."

"Right. If the… the person has been brought in and it's a custodial interrogation, this is all premised on the person on being in custody. So, if it's a custodial interrogation then there should be Miranda Rights. Absolutely."

"They… this doesn't change Miranda at all."

"Representative Durkin, this… this doesn't change existing juvenile protections. And so, if there's protections for juveniles regarding their Miranda rights, those would still be in place. We're not touching that."

"At this point, the… the statute is there, but this doesn't change Miranda at all."

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Six of these felonies came… my understanding, just came directly from the Cook County State's Attorney, herself, or very high up in that organization, and then two… two additional ones were… were added which were aggravated arson and aggravated kidnapping. And the thought behind these were that these are… these are very violent felonies that would be good and manageable."

"I actually would take issue with that because the list of jurisdictions that we have, that are currently recordings, in some cases all major felonies are more at the… the smaller places: the Cahokia Police Department, Caseyville Police Department, Chatham Police Department, East Moline Police Department, East St. Louis Police Department, Edwardsville Police Department, Fairview Heights, Galena, the Kankakee Sheriff, the Kankakee Police Department. So, what the evidence shows, actually, is that in the smaller jurisdictions that they are already… already doing this. And so, I believe we've taken the concerns of the entire state in… into consideration when… when coming up with these eight specific felonies."

"I… I don't agree with that because the statute, as we've discussed, has a infeasibility exception in it which would deal with the Elwood situation you just described."

"No, I don't think that's fair to say."

"I don't recall making that specific statement, Representative. But what I would say is that the concern is we want to have recordings in… in specific situations, and that's what the State's Attorney has selected. What was happening was that the statutes of 'just permissive' was being ruled out as being the resolution to this issue and it… and it wasn't. We wanted to make sure that we got a full 09800068.docx 198  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Resolution. So, what this statute does is actually incorporates both ideas. It allows there to be recordings of the eight felonies we've discussed, and it also allows to keep the cameras rolling for other felonies. So, this takes in… this is the best of both worlds and I think that's why the State's Attorneys Association is on board with this. Everyone else is neutral and at… the Cook County State's Attorney is a proponent of that. I think that's exactly why because we built a very good statute based on all the committee and based on the suggestions that came from you, came from Representative Sacia, Representative Cabello, and due to all the hard work and good questions that each of you asked, we came up with this really great statute."

"I… I'm sorry, I didn't hear the first part of that question?"

"I… I'm not privy to their internal discussions. I do know that they went neutral and I… I think that that's a significant fact, that whatever their internal discussions were, they realized that this is a Bill that they should not be opposing."

"Your request is acknowledged. Representative Kelly Burke. Representative Kelly Burke. Your light was on to speak. You wish not to speak? Mr. Sandack."

"The Sponsor yields."

"My… from… we… we worked with the Illinois State's Attorneys Association, and my discussions with them was that they are the representative body of the State's Attorneys as… as a whole."

"I did not make a personal phone call. Like I said, I… I dealt with the Association and it was my understand, speaking with their representative, that they have a weekly conference call on Fridays and that everyone was very… very aware of what was happening with all these discussions. And certainly, I was open and available to speak with anyone about this very important piece of legislation."

"The Will County State's Attorney did not reach out to me."

"I actually reached out to the Lake County State's Attorney on numerous occasions and didn't receive a phone call back."

"Absolutely."

"Like I said, I reached out to them and didn't receive a phone call back. There wasn't much more I could do."

"They're neutral, Sir."

"The City of Chicago's neutral. The Illinois State Police are neutral. And I believe you said the sheriff was neutral."

"I… I heard what Mr. Sacia said and I've seen… I've seen a note that was filed, yes."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. And… and one of the previous speakers was absolutely correct and I have a great deal of respect for him. This is probably one of the most important Bills we'll do this Session and I don't say it lightly. And… and the concerns of the… of the numerous speakers before me are… are certainly well taken, but it's important to remember a couple of things about this Bill. This is a very narrowly drafted Bill. It is… it is well considered, given the con… the constrictions placed upon local governments, what we're asking them to do with respect to these types of interrogations. The roll-out is well thought out, given what we're asking the police departments to do in the next year or so. Closing of the loophole for extemporaneous confessions is a major, major policy achievement for this Body, were it to be enacted. Law enforcement has said to us that they are interrogating a murder… a murder… I'm losing my mind. If there's someone who's accused of murder, they… and they make a subsequent confession, that should be admissible. Right now, that's a 09800068.docx 203  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 gaping hole in our Criminal Code. The Gentleman's Bill fixes that gap. So, there are very good concerns brought up about this Bill but given the time that the Gentleman's put into the Bill, given the time that the Cook County State's Attorney has put into this Bill, it is a very significant policy achievement for us to reasonably and narrowly give law enforcement and defendants an added piece of the criminal justice puzzle. And I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Mitchell, C.: "So, Representative, there's been a lot of questions on this Bill as it relates to… to cos, but I'd imagine that we also pay a pretty high tab for wrongful convictions. Do you think that this Bill would essentially be helpful in that… in alleviating that process?"

"I absolutely do, Representative." Mitchell, C.: "And I know that you've… you've done a few things with prosecution in your life. Could you speak a bit for the Body to the process of how exactly you think videotaping of some of these crimes might be helpful in… in terms of… of alleviating some wrongful convictions?"

"So, I… I think what… what recording these interrogations does, it protects both law enforcement and it protects people from being wrongfully convicted. On the law enforcement side, and I… and I would see this all the time and I would think my fellow prosecutors would see this all the time as well, is people come in and accuse the law enforcement officer of doing something wrong. He beat me, he… he tripped me, he punched 09800068.docx 204  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 me, he coerced me. When there's a recording, that goes away, and so now the law enforcement officers actually have more time to do their job. In the instances, though, when someone does something wrong, they're going to be deterred from doing that because it's on tape. And so, we're not going to have those situations where someone is… is being beat up, someone is being electrocuted, someone is… is being tortured in some horrific way that we've been reading in stories throughout the state for… for the last couple of years. And so, what this Bill will do is protect law enforcement and protect potential victims. It's a win/win for law enforce… it's a win/win for justice." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Representative. To the Bill. This is a… I understand their concerns about funding, concerns about this being an unfunded mandate. But the bottom line is that the Better… Better Government Association did a study, I want to say in 2011, that found that wrongful convictions costs us around $215 million in this state. Anything that can help to potentially protect that wrong and also make sure that we don’t have people suffering in prison for crimes they didn't commit is something that will save us money in the long term. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Drury to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First, I… I want to acknowledge that, you know, all of the questions and debate on this, I… I take those… those questions and the debate very, very seriously. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement. I've worked with law enforcement. I have the utmost respect for Representative Sacia. This Bill is good for law 09800068.docx 205  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 enforcement and this Bill is good for… is good for justice because it is going to protect law enforcement and it's going to protect potential victims. This is not a mandate. This is a procedural rule that talks about when evidence can come in and when evidence can't come in and there's plenty of exceptions to deal with… with the various situations. The proponents of this are the State's Attorneys Association who represent all of the State's Attorneys. So, I don't think it's fair to say that we didn't reach out to the State's Attorneys. I called my own State's Attorney in my county, I didn't hear back. The Cook County State's Attorney was instrumental in… in bringing this Bill forward and having it agreed on. What we need to focus on are what… what the facts are here. The Illinois State Police are neutral on this. Despite anything we've heard, they are neutral on this Bill. The FOP Lodge is neutral on this Bill. The City of Chicago is neutral on this Bill. This is a really great Bill. This will be a great day for Illinois when we can say that we fought for justice, we fought to bring better cases and keep the good cases good and get convictions. This is good for that, and it's a good day to stop wrongful convictions. I strongly ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? A reminder, Mr. Reboletti has asked for a verification. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Davis, Jones, Reis, Smith, Thapedi, Turner, Unes. Mr. Thapedi. Mr. Unes. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes', 50 09800068.docx 206  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional… excuse me. Mr. Reboletti, do you persist in your verification? Mr. Clerk, call the affirmative."

Speaker Lang: "Mr. Clerk, will you suspend? Mr. Reboletti withdraws his verification request. On this Bill, there are 66 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1409, Representative Lilly. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I move to adopt Floor Amendment 3 and 4."

"Please explain Amendment 3, Representative."

"Thank you. They are technical changes, changing… taking out the authorities quick claim power."

"Those in favor of the Ladies Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lilly."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I rise to present Senate Bill 1409…"

"Representative, Amendment 4."

"Thank you. I move to adopt Floor Amendment #4."

"And what does it do?"

"It will… it's a technical change, as well, which deals with…"

"Good enough. Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Please call the Bill… read the Bill for a third time."

"Representative Lilly, on the Bill."

"Thank you. I rise to present SB1409, which establishes Elmwood Park Railroad Relocation Authority Act for safety reasons. If there's no questions, I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Lady's moved for the passage of the Bill. The Chair recognizes Mr. McAuliffe."

"The Lady yields."

"Yes." 09800068.docx 208  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Please record yourselves, Members. Davis. Walsh. Monique Davis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 73 voting 'yes', 45 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Rules report."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed."

"I just noticed on the news… I'd ask the Body to please rise for a moment of silence. I was… just saw on the news that four Houston firefighters were killed in a major five- alarm fire. In addition, there were five firefighters that are being treated for injuries. So, I ask for a moment of silence from the House, please." 09800068.docx 209  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Thank you. House Bill 2330, Mr. Clerk. It's on the Order of Postponed Consideration. Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Thank you for allowing me to bring this Bill back. This Bill has been worked out and I've made substantial Amendments to the Bill to make it better. That's one good thing about the Body. Let me just tell you that this is a Bill of HFS and some of the research that has been given to me is that it's important to know that the passage of this Bill will save the state approximately $15 thousand a month. Plus, it also will allow us to leverage federal funds as a result of the passage of this Bill. So, I urge a 'aye' vote for HB2330."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Those in favor vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Smith. Sullivan. Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 51 voting 'yes', 67 voting 'no'. And the Bill fails. House Resolution 370, Representative Chapa LaVia. Is Representative Chapa LaVia in the chamber? Please proceed on your Resolution, Representative. We understand there's an Amendment, Representative, to your Resolution. Please explain the Amendment."

"Yes. Yes, Speaker. Thank you. I'm sorry, humbly. Forgive me. I was in the back. The Amendment takes out the Veterans Affairs Department out of the piece of legislation because they didn't feel comfortable giving their analysis of a protocol on any medication. So, we took them out of the… 09800068.docx 210  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 the House Resolution 370. I'll take any questions. I ask for its adoption."

"Seeing no debate… Turner in the Chair. Seeing no debate, the Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Resolution 370. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Lady moves for the adoption of the Resolution. Seeing no objections, House Resolution 370 is adopted. Mr. Clerk, the Senate… the status of Senate Bill 1214."

"Mr. Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. I'm sure you'll recall this debate, previously. This would allow the Tollway Authority to publish the names of toll scoff laws on their website. This is after many, many written and oral communications with these folks. Give them the chance to pay and to make sure that law abiding citizens who are paying are not prejudiced by those who are not. We've debated this thoroughly. I would ask your support."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1214 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Davis, Mitchell, Sente, Smith, Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 62 voting 'yes', 55 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1214, having received the 09800068.docx 211  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Mautino, on your Motion. Representative Bradley, on your Motion."

"I'd like to withdraw my Motion to reconsider on House Bill 183."

"Representative Bradley."

"What? No. No."

"Mr. Bradley."

"I'd like to make a Motion to reconsider House Bill 183… 183."

"Representative Mautino moves that the Motion be ta… be laid on the table. The Motion has failed. The Motion is Tabled. Representative Evans."

"Mr. Speaker, I rise for a point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"I just want to acknowledge a good… a new friend of mine, and a constituent from my district, Matthew Hamer, he's paging today. So, ya'll give him a round of applause, first time in Springfield."

"Welcome to Springfield, Matthew. Representative Currie for a Motion."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move to suspend the posting requirements for purposes of the Concurrence Motion on House Bill 1189, so that it may be heard before the one hour lapse in time. Same Motion we made on… on the Concurrence Motion on House Bill 183."

"Lady moves for the adoption. Those in favor say 'aye'; those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Motion is adopted. And on that, 09800068.docx 212  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 Supplemental #3, House Bill 1189, Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1189. This is a piece of legislation the Senate sent over dealing with lost and stolen weapons. It does two things. It simply says that there's going to be a FOID verification system for the transfer of firearms. I would note to the Body, this is not a permanent title. This is only… refers to a permanent title transfer. It does not refer to a loaning of the weapon. And secondly, it deals with the lost and stolen aspects of firearm… firearms where there's a lost and stolen firearm. There will be a… on a first offense will be a petty offense to not report, the second offense will be a Class A misdemeanor. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Bost."

"Sponsor will yield."

"So, what I'm told, Representative, is the law states that right now, the only requirement is a paper record for ten years, for private sales."

"So, there's an exemption, I'm told, for… expressly for transfers of family items like this, Mike." 09800068.docx 213  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"So, all you would do, Mike, is call in to the Illinois State Police, just let them know that you're transferring title of the weapon to someone else with a valid FOID card. Hopefully, it wouldn't be a cumbersome process, at all."

"And they… the Illinois State Police would verify that the… that the recipient has a valid FOID card. So they would need to verify the current legal status of the FOID card."

"No."

"They… they would have to show the FOID card, but you would also have to verify it through the state police to ensure compliance."

"And right now, they're currently required to show the FOID card."

"Mike, the answer is 'no'. There's not going to be a mon… they're not going to be a…"

"So…"

"So, Mike, just under that… under that scenario, you would just simply, the next business day, place a call to the state police, let them know that you transferred the… the firearm to another lawful FOID owner… owner of a FOID card, that's they're status is legal…"

"…and it would be the end of the transaction."

"So, there's no… there's no penalty in… in that scenario, Mike. But… but at that point, the state police are then aware that there's been a transaction that involves someone who wasn't a valid owner of a FOID card."

"Representative Mautino."

"Thank you. The Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"In talking with Senator Raoul last night, there were some concerns that the NRA and the Illinois State Rifle Association had expressed, and I wanted to talk to you a little bit about a potential trailer Bill, and there were a couple of areas that were of great concern. One, being 09800068.docx 215  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 permanent transfers, and it be restricted to permanent transfer only. So if my son borrowed a shotgun to go on a deer hunting weekend that would not be an item. You're only talking about permanent transfers for consideration, because the Bill doesn’t say that."

"So, to make it abundantly clear to you, Frank, and, you know, I'm certainly willing to work with you and… and Brandon over the summer, this only affects permanent transfers. The intent of the legislation is to only affect permanent transfers. Temporary loaning of the weapon to go to a range is not included within this statute."

"Okay. Two, the other concern was to, and I talked with this with Senator Raoul last night and you a little bit ago, destruction of all the FTIP records and that they may not be used to create a database or retention of those records. Would that be your intention as well?"

"The intent… the intent of the Bill is not to create a permanent database of these records, and that the FTIP records would be… would be destroyed."

"And so, in… in a follow-up or trailer, we would put that in the language that…"

"Yes. Yes, Sir."

"…it specifically would be destroyed?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Okay. Thank you."

"Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Speaker. To the Bill. This is a fantastic piece of legislation. Certainly makes me feel a lot better, and I think others a lot better, about what we just 09800068.docx 216  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 did with conceal carry. As I've mentioned several times in this Body, we know that 85 percent of handguns used in crimes were not, in fact, stolen but were originally purchased lawfully and then handed over through a straw purchaser. This will give our Illinois State Police the ability to make sure that we crack down on straw purchasers. It will protect law abiding gun owners from any sort of legal ramifications from happening to sell a gun to a bad apple. This is a common sense reform that the state police are fully equipped to do. I think it makes a ton of sense, makes us much, much safer. It polls overwhelmingly well among Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I strongly urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Zalewski to close."

"I… I can't do much better than that. I… we… we've worked long and hard on this issue and this is something that makes sense for a lot of reasons within the realm of public safety. I'd ask for the Body's support."

"Gentleman moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1189. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On the count of 70 voting 'yes', 48 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', the House concurs with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 1189. And this Bill, having received the favorable majority… Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 2332, Representative Hernandez. Please read the Bill." 09800068.docx 217  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. So, I move to adopt Floor Amendment #1 to SB2332, and I'll explain it on Third Reading."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 2332. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Please read the Bill for a third time, Mr. Clerk."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. The Amendment requires rules to be administered to the IDOT civil engineering scholarship program. The Bill is a trailer Bill proposed to clean up some language to clarify the class groups that may apply so that the IDOT… so that IDOT may meet their diverse work force obligations. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the Lady moves for the… the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2332 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all 09800068.docx 218  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 118 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 2332, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, status of Senate Bill 1920, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to adopt the Amendment… the Amendment become… becomes the Bill. I'd like to adopt it on and then debate it on Third Reading."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1920. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to make a Motion to Rule the… the notes, as… as inapplicable."

"And on that Motion, we have Representative Reboletti." 09800068.docx 219  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Mr. Clerk, please read the first note. Mr. Clerk, what is the first note?"

"So, the question is, 'Shall the note be ruled inapplicable?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. The Lady's Motion fails. Representative Nekritz."

"We'd just like to make… remake the Motion that the… that the note be ruled inapplicable."

"Representative Reboletti."

Speaker Turner: "Representative Reboletti, the Motion is a renewable Motion."

"Representative Reboletti."

"On the Lady's Motion, we'll take a Roll Call vote, all in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 64 voting 'yes'; 53 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present', the Motion carries. Representative Reboletti."

"Mr. Clerk, further Motions?"

"Representative Nekritz.

"Mr. Speaker, I would ask again that the note be ruled inapplicable."

"On that question, the Lady moves that the note be ruled inapplicable. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 66 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', the Motion carries. Clerk. Representative Reboletti."

Speaker Turner: "You're… you're removing all notes, Representative, if I'm… except for the pension note?"

"Okay. Representative Nekritz."

"I would ask that the note be ruled as inapplicable."

"The question is… Representative Franks."

"Parliamentary inquiry. Is there any chance to debate that issue?"

"It is debatable, Sir."

"But, will the Sponsor yield then?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"I'd just like to know the… the rationale for declaring that a pension note on a pension Bill could be ruled inapplicable."

"Representative, the pension note is applicable only for state systems, not for local systems in the… and this Bill only applies to a local pension system."

"And there's no… in your opinion, there'd be no effect to the state pension system on this?"

"There… there's nothing in here that would affect the state systems, and there's no information that the note would… would provide for us that would… that would apply to the state systems."

"Would we get any information, though, on a pension note, should they have one, that would tell what the affect would have for the Chicago public schools?" 09800068.docx 222  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Representative, the state sys… the state system would… would have no idea what the impact…"

"Okay."

"…would be to the local system so they would not be able to respond to that."

"Okay. Would a fiscal note had… had determine that?"

"It's again, a fiscal note would be applicable to the fiscal impact to the state, not the locals. These are all the… the Bill that would… that we're going to be addressing is… only a local…"

"Will you have…"

"…unit of government."

"Will you have answers on Third Reading for some of the fiscal impact to Chicago then, should this Bill pass?"

"I… I will do my best. I have gotten as many numbers as I can from the Chicago Public School System and from the… and… and from the Chicago Teachers Pension Fund."

"Thank you. I'll listen to the rest of the debate."

"Representative Reboletti."

"The Lady will yield."

"Representative, that… we… we do contribute some but that… that purport… we're under that threshold, so we have not… that… that would not be impacted by what we're doing here."

"I… I prefer to call it a pension ramp."

"I… I'm sorry, Representative. I didn't hear the question."

"Representative, the… the schedule in the… in the legislation still requires CTPF to get to 90 percent funding, so… so as long as it's…"

"They'll be under 90 percent funding, the whole… the whole period."

"2061." 09800068.docx 224  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Close."

"Correct."

"Representative Durkin."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, we would have to send this to a state sys… we… we don't have the ability to inquire of the Chicago Teachers' Pension Fund as to the impact to them. We would have to send this to a state system and… or… and they don't have the ability to… they don't have the data to be able to respond."

"But, Representative…"

"Representative, as… as a non-state agency, the Chicago Teachers' Fund has no obligation to respond. So, there's no… there's no ability for us to enforce that note."

"Well, you may not read that in the Section…"

"…that would be… that would be the separation of… of that… the difference between the state and a municipality."

"Representative Senger."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I think that… I don't know how that applies to the note that you're… that you're asking about?"

"Well, Representative, I think that the, you know… we don't… we don't fund the system, so I don't know how this would change anything."

"Representative Bost."

"Representative Tryon."

"Sponsor will yield." 09800068.docx 228  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"I believe under Article 13 it would be."

"Yes, they did but, Representative, that we can… that… that doesn't have to do with the Note that's here."

"But the changes…"

"I… I think…"

"Representative, again…"

"…there's a distinction between the state pensions and… and what… and the local pensions and this… we… we don't have the capability of getting this information from the local pensions."

"Lady… the Lady has moved to rule the note inapplicable. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On the count of 66 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', the note is deemed inapplicable. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think in this chamber it's known that I have… care very much and very deeply about adequately funding our pension systems and have worked tirelessly over the last year to do that. But sometimes, we have to face a choice between bad and worse. And in that instance, I will pick bad. What we're facing here is the Chicago Public School System has an increase in their liability on July 1 from $200 million in FY13 to 600… over $600 million in FY14. The total increase that they can raise in their… through their property taxes is $84 million. The contract that they're going to be facing, the increases in the contract, are at $93 million. So, we want them to get to a… to this… to the situation where they are paying what they need to pay into the system to get it fully funded. But to ask the… the Chicago Public School System to do that in one year, I think, is… is just unaffordable. If… they would have to lay teachers off, they would have to raise class sizes, 09800068.docx 231  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 which they're already doing. They're closing schools. They've… they've dramatically cut their front office budget. They've done things to try to bring this under control, and they are working with the unions to try to come to some agreement, but they ran out of time. In order to craft a budget for the next… for the next school year and to be able to open schools in next September, they're going to continue negotiating, but we will not be back here to address until sometime after the school's open. So, we can say to Chicago Public School Systems, sorry, you can't open next… next August or we can take this rather… this very unpleasant action, which I get, is not what we want to be doing, but I think it… necessity, we have to be doing it. We can take this action, give them a little window of opportunity to… to phase this in and then in two years they will be at an actuarially required payment. I'd ask for your support."

"Representative Senger."

"Sponsor will yield."

"I didn't… I… I don’t know the exact year but I know it's been fairly recently when it was… when it was well funded."

"That's… that would be correct." 09800068.docx 232  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"That's not the only… it was on the decline before… before then."

"And… and the Chicago Public Schools and the Chicago Teachers… the Chicago Teachers' Union have been working toward that but, you know, they… they did not reach the May 31 deadline."

"I… I believe that is part of the negotiation. I don't know how that will end up."

"Representative, all… that… that is true. But if… if we were to simply increase the payment by $400 million next year, believe you me, taxpayers would be… there'd… there'd be no other source than to go to the taxpayers for that. So, you know, you can't argue that one is a… one is a tax increase and the other is not. There is no alternative here that doesn't… that doesn't increase the pension payment."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor will yield."

"No, I always… I'm still hopeful." 09800068.docx 235  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Representative, I believe the… the question of what's happening here with the… with the Chicago Public School System is… is separate from what's going on with the state systems."

"Representative, this chamber passed comprehensive pension reform and I believe we were waiting for the other chamber to act as well."

"Representative, this chamber passed comprehensive pension reform. We are waiting for the other chamber to do likewise."

"Yeah. Representative, I think there's a significant difference between the two. That was… that was truly a holiday and we did nothing at the end to get ourselves back on a actuarially required schedule. This legislation, I think, it takes account of the fact that the City of Chicago is in a very deep hole. They are increa… they're not… they're not level… these are not level payments throughout this ramp. They are insignificantly increasing payments and then at the end of it, they will be on an actuarially required contribution schedule. We never did that in the state."

"If we had done that then, we wouldn't…"

"…we would… the problems would not be as significant as they are today." 09800068.docx 237  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Representative Hays."

"Sponsor will yield."

"I don't… unfortunately, I haven't spent the last several years studying pensions. I don't quite know all the… the different rates in property taxes."

"Why don't you."

"Representative, I… I believe that the numbers that you just cited don’t take account of the multiplier that the state imposes on that. But that being said, this is a…"

"…this is a situation…"

"…I was going to respond to your question. This is a situation where we are going to have to make some difficult choices but that's what comes with governing, is we have to take account of where we are today. We've had this debate… and I… I'm subject to this debate all the time on the state pensions, well, you know, you… you people did it wrong and… and I shouldn’t have to pay for it. Well, we are where we are 09800068.docx 239  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 and I'm going to have to make some decisions going forward. That's what this Bill does."

"Representative Tryon."

"I believe it's been quite some time."

"Representative, I'll be… I have received a fiscal note. We'll be glad to send you a copy."

"And, Representative, I'm, you know… we have… we have the… the parties to this agreement have been meeting for… for days through the weekends trying to come up with a solution. They were unable to. We're here at the last minute because they couldn't come up with a solution. They're about to fall off a cliff. We have to find a way to provide them a path through that. And I'm sorry that that's unpleasant. I don’t like the solution either, but it's… but if, again, the choices are between bad and worse, I think that we're better off helping the school children of the City of Chicago rather than sending them off a cliff."

"Representative McSweeney."

"Representative Kay."

"Sponsor will yield, Sir." 09800068.docx 243  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Representative. Representative…"

"…we have the fiscal note now. You're welcome to take a look at it."

"Representative Dunkin." 09800068.docx 245  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Will the… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, why is the Teachers… Chicago Teachers' Pension Fund opposed to this legislation?"

"The Teachers' Pension Fund is opposed because of the… of the ramp."

"Because of the…"

"The ramp. That… that this legislation includes."

"Can you articulate that in layperson's terms?"

"Yes. Well, so it… the pension payment in… the current pension payment in the current fiscal year is $200 million. The next payment is $600 million and… and I… the Pension Fund would like that full payment next year."

"Okay. Thank you. Is this the last time that we'll bail out the Chicago Board of Education?"

"I… somebody asked me about my crystal ball yesterday, I decided that I… I announced that that was not a very good crystal ball, so I don't know that."

"Okay. All right. Well, you know, are there any guarantees that there will be… that this will be the last time or something close to that? Because we're asking for them to forgo making full payment to the pension but we're requiring ourselves to never skip on pension holidays again so we won't get into this… this pension… or fiscal calamity that we're in right now. So, what assurances are we going to get other than them saying, well we'll work it out… work it out over the summer and we'll get there?" 09800068.docx 246  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Well… so they would… they would have… I mean, at the end of this they would have to, if there were to be another change, they would certainly have to come back to us. And we could evaluate at that time whether we thought that they had taken enough action to be able… and… and had reached enough agreement in order to be able to address the crisis. And for me right now, Representative, this is a very difficult balance. If we're asking them to pay in… to triple their pension payment next year, that is going to have an impact on children in the… in the City of Chicago, just like all the other cuts that the City of Chicago has been made. That's… those have been very, very painful decisions and I think it behooves us to try to balance that for at least the next couple of years so that we don't… so that it isn't a complete tsunami in… for Chicago public schools."

"So, what would this underfunding do to the pension funds funded ratio, which was at 80 percent funded right before the holiday, and is now about 53 percent funded after the last holiday in 2010 under Public Act 96-0889?"

"I don't think I have those numbers, exactly. Yeah, we… we'd have through an actuarial study, which is, I've learned, takes about two to three weeks."

"Okay. So, is this an issue about governance, would you say, in terms of how and… or who's really running the Chicago Public School System and how it is that we keep running across this… this incredibly high, billion dollar now, deficit? We also have a situation where they're not paying or meeting their financial obligations to the pension fund. I mean, it sounds a bit hypocritical for us to… to set a course on us 09800068.docx 247  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 paying our pension or not have any more pension holidays and yet, we're allowing the City of Chicago to do exactly that, come up with a pension holiday."

"And… and Representative, I struggled with that myself but when I… when… when you look at the enormity of the increase in the payment, that would be like us moving from a seven billion… from our currently seven and a half billion dollar payment, to an over $21 billion payment. And… and so, when you look at it in that order of magnitude, I'd say okay, they… we're going to… we're going to force them to get there, but I got to give them a little time and a little… and a little ability to ramp that up."

"So, is there a way that we can come up a… this Bill would help incentivize the City of Chicago to come up with a dedicated tax levy that they've had before? Because when they had that, the dedicated tax levy, they actually… they were at about…"

"They were…"

"…98, 95 percent funded."

"They were right at 100 percent funded. That's correct. And… and I believe it was the other side of the aisle that imposed that change on… on the City of Chicago. But that being said, I think that the… that the payment… the increase in the payments is still pretty significant in this Bill. It goes from 200 to 350 in the first year and 350 to 500 in the second year, and then they're on an arc. So, given where they're… you know, given the magnitude of their budget, those are still very significant increases just to go into pensions. Forget all the other… the other costs that they have. So, I think 09800068.docx 248  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 that this is… that that should be incentive for the parties to come together and reach an agreement, because I'm not sure that even those increases are affordable for the City of Chicago."

"And listen, I… I get it. You know, those are tremendous numbers and, you know, it just… I'm thinking sort of on a grander scale that it's… we're… we're borderline hypocritical to ask a body to not pay its full pension and yet, we're asking ourselves… we're having a, I guess, a different standard for ourselves as well. And I… and I'm also trying to… I'm struggling with the fact that we're really being unfair to the retirees who invested 30 years in this system and we're saying to the City of Chicago it is okay to not pay the full pension obligation. I think this also gets us to the real question of how it is that we do fund public education in the State of Illinois. It's fundamentally flawed, wouldn't you agree?"

"Well and Representative, to your earlier point about… about hypocritical… part of the reason we have… we're going through this pension debate at the state level is because we don't want to prioritize pension payments above every other priority and… and right now, that's what's happening. And I think that's the same thing here. I have… we have to provide some balance. I have to be able to prioritize other spending in order to keep the system working, functioning at a… at a basic… at a very basic level. So, to me, they're both the same. It's… it's both about trying to balance the priorities of paying into the pension system but meeting all the… meeting 09800068.docx 249  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 other priorities that the Chicago public schools have, and that's a very important one, of educating children."

"Thank you, Representative. To the Bill."

"Thank you."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a situation where, you know, we're being asked to be responsible at the state level and not take another pension holiday. I just wish that CPS and CTU could've come up with a… a better agreement so we could avoid having this conversation. Wouldn't you say so, Mr. Speaker? But here we are trying to figure out, trying to help out, trying to micromanage Chicago's school system yet again. In the mid '90s, they came down here and said, hey look, can you give us complete authority. Sure, City of Chicago, here's your complete authority. Guess what? They ran across a big pension… a fully funded pension of the Chicago Teachers' Pension Fund that was at 100 percent, and they raided it. They stuck their hand in that… that nice, 100 percent funded pension fund of all of those good teachers in the City of Chicago who worked their buns off, who deserve a… a pension after they gave up 30 years of their lives, and we're still underfunded. They put their hand in the mix and they took their money. And now, we're asking ourselves, what's right? Should we allow a school district to not fully fund their pension obligation of those retirees? Interesting. Very, very interesting. I'm… you know, I hope my vote is going to be the right thing for the teachers because that's what I'm concerned about. I'm not concerned about any administrators, any politicians. I'm concerned about those teachers who deserve better, especially the retirees who went 09800068.docx 250  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 through what they went through. So, I'm… I'm going to be listening to the debate and I'm also going to be looking, and… and hoping and praying for some clarification that the CPS and CTU can come up with that will help bring some resolve to this situation. I mean, it's amazing. Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor will yield."

"I believe that was about $12.2 billion."

"Yes, Representative. In 1995, when Chicago public school reform was passed, I think, with almost… almost all the votes coming from your side of the aisle, they were 100 percent funded."

"Speaker Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question." 09800068.docx 253  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Gentleman moves the previous question. All those in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it, and the previous question is put. Representative Nekritz to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, the process of governing is always about balance and… and trying to meet a variety of priorities. And say what you want, we are where we are on May 31st, with the Chicago Public School System facing a tripling of their pension payment in 30 days. A change from 200 million to 600 million, out of a 5… a total of a $5 billion budget. Now, we can stand here and pretend that a $400 million increase won't impact education, won't impact teachers, and that we're going to prioritize as… the pension payment above every other priority. But, Ladies and Gentlemen, that is not governing. That's being doctrinaire. Sometimes, we have to make some very difficult decisions and I keep saying we have to make decisions between bad and worse. And we have to… and I think in this instance, we have to pick bad. The alternative is worse. The alternative is to let them… is to require them to make that dramatic increase, and on top of the school closures and everything else that's… that's going on there and the difficult cuts that have been made, to force… force that on them in… on July 1. No time for phase in, no time for acclimating, no time for making decisions. Just July 1, you're tripling your pension payment. Again, I… I think that this is an unfortunate decision that we have to make but it is the right decision. I ask for your vote."

"Lady moves for the passage of Senate Bill 1920. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting 09800068.docx 254  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 39 voting 'yes', 78 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1920 fails. Representative Monique Davis, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Davis, M.: "Mr. Speaker, I seek recognition to say the State of Illinois gives $20 billion to the TRS system annually. Chicago does not get that figure. It is wrong. Chicago isn't asking for any money in that Bill. They're merely asking for the opportunity to delay a year or two's payment out of a 46 year payment. We give $20 billion to the others systems, nothing like that to Chicago. It is not fair. I've said it for 25 years. It is wrong. This Bill should've passed."

"Representative Jackson."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like for my vote to be 'yes' on House Bill 1189."

Speaker Turner: "The Journal will reflect your request. Representative Franks."

"Point of personal privilege, if I may."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"I'm concerned. It appears that seem to be winding down and I'm worried that we're not going to get to the most important issue facing the State of Illinois. And we heard the previous Lady talking about allowing Chicago schools to underfund their pension systems and she stated it's like choosing a bad decision over a worse one. Well, if we believe that, then we ought to consider, perhaps, voting on Senate Bill 2404, because I think leaving here without doing anything 09800068.docx 255  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 is the worst thing we could do. I… I think it'd be disgraceful if we did that. I think… personally, I'm embarrassed if we walk away tonight without having addressed the pension issue. I know the taxpayers are going to be disgusted with us and I feel for the taxpayers but more importantly, I… I fear for them. And I don't believe we should let this happen. I believe that we should stay here and address the pension issue, and nothing else is as important. Our pensions are at risk. Our credit rating's at risk. Our state solvency is at risk. And I'd ask the Governor, if he's here and he can hear us, that he ought to listen very closely. I think it's time for the Governor to step up. I think it's time for the Governor that he needs to do his job and I think it's time for the Governor to become relevant. I… I would ask the Governor to call a Special Session of the Legislature. He should not leave… let us leave until we get this done. And I think he should send the State Police to bring back any Legislators that may leave. I'm asking him to not to let this happen. And I believe that if we do leave and don't get this done, that we are negligent in our duties. I also think if the Governor doesn't call us back, he'd be negligent in his duties and he ought to consider resigning. 'Cause we've heard for three years that this is the most important issue facing the State of Illinois, but we have not had the meeting of the whole. We have not had what we need to have got done here on the House Floor. We have not seen the Governor. He has not done his job. And as a result, everyone in the state is going to suffer. Governor, please come to the floor. Please call a Special Session. Do not let this happen." 09800068.docx 256  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I would like to echo what the Gentleman just said. And if I can draw your attention at noon today, approximately 12:11 this morning… or this afternoon, rather, Rueters news agency put out a report from Moody's Investor Services. And Moody's Investor Services, quote, warned that that State of Illinois, that it's credit rating could fall further if the Legislature fails to fix the state's huge public pension system. 'Our view', Moody's view, 'is that failure to enact pension reforms could drive the state's general obligation bond rating lower from A2… which is already the lowest level for a U.S. State', said the Moody's analyst. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, if we are getting ready to adjourn, the Speaker of the House is going to stand up and he's going to tell us what we've done in this term. And you know, for the past two years, we have had some notable successes, and we could go home and we could… we could actually say that we have done something positive. But for the past two years, we've been talking about pension reform. Every one of us, I'd venture to say, campaigned on pension reform. This House took a tough vote and we passed significant pension reform, thanks to the leadership of the Chairman of the Pension Committee and the Speaker and the Minority Leader. We did it but for whatever reason, for whatever reason, we can't get both chambers in this General Assembly to agree on a Comprehensive Pension Reform Bill. And where is our Chief Executive? I haven't seen him. Somebody's got to break this log jam. You know, the fol… the people of the State of Illinois couldn't care less about a credit rating for the 09800068.docx 257  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 most part, it's kind of like the national debt. It's out there and you don’t really think about it. But we know what a credit rating is. We know what a laughing stock we are because we have an A2 credit rating. It's a disgrace. This needs to be fixed. It needs to be fixed now. If it's a Special Session, make it happen in a Special Session. If it's a last minute deal in the last four hours, make happen. It's got to happen. The Gentleman who spoke before me was absolutely right. We… if we leave here tonight and do not have comprehensive pension reform, it's an embarrassment to this chamber. It's an embarrassment, more so, to the… the entire General Assembly and we should all be ashamed."

"Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G.: "Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise for a point of personal privilege. I rise in regard to the marriage equality legislation. On Valentine's Day, the Illinois State Senate followed down the path to make the State of Illinois the next state in our union to recognize marriage equality. Our President, Barack Obama; our past President, Bill Clinton; our Governor; the Mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emanuel; both of our United States' Senators, Mark Kirk and Dick Durbin, have so far did this. The Speaker of the House, the Attorney General, the State Comptroller, and many of the Members of this House have stood for fairness and equality. The editorial boards of our major newspapers and thousands of proud Illinois families have risen to support marriage equality as well." 09800068.docx 258  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013

"Order in the chamber or everyone in the gallery will be removed. Order in the chamber, or everyone in the gallery will…" Harris, G.: "Okay."

"…be removed from the chamber." Harris, G.: "When I took the Oath of Office, along with all of you who sit in this chamber, we swore to uphold, defend and protect our Constitution and the democratic process by which our nation functions. Part of that process is the need to have a Majority vote to change the law and when you change the course of history, I believe that should be a substantial Majority. As Chief Sponsor of this legislation, decisions surrounding this legislation are mine and mine alone. Several of my colleagues have indicated they would not be willing to cast a vote on this Bill today, and I've never been sadder to accept such requests. But I have to keep my eye, as we all must, on the ultimate prize. They've asked for time to go back to their districts, talk to their constituents, and reach out to their minds and hearts, and have told me they will return in November with their word that they're prepared to support this legislation. And I take my colleagues at their word that they shall. We will be back and we will be voting on this Bill in this Legislature, in this room. Until that day, I apologize to the families who were hoping to wake up tomorrow as full and equal citizens of this state. But… but I will… but I will close… I will close by quoting the man whose picture is above the House chamber. 'Fellow citizens', said President Abraham Lincoln, 'we cannot escape history. We, of this Congress and this administration will be 09800068.docx 259  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance or insignificance can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor to the latest generation.' Thank you."

"Representative Mell. Representative Mell."

"Mr. Speaker, I rise in point of personal privilege."

"Please state your point."

"There's been a lot of talk about gay marriage in this chamber these last few months, and… and I have one. Kristen and I went to Iowa and were legally married there 20 months ago, followed by a ceremony in our church in Chicago. Our marriage is recognized as a marriage in Iowa. Here in Illinois, it's a civil union. Now there's been some hurtful and mean things said about our marriage, says it will cause a destruction of society, that we are harmful to children. They say we are abnormal and immoral and that's some of the nicer things that they've said about us. So, I'd like to take a moment to tell you about our marriage. Kristen and I have been together for nine years. We own a home. We're active members in our family. We have a great group of friends. We are godmothers to our nieces and nephew. We go to the soccer games, baseball games, recitals, birthday parties. We host sleepovers and the kids always… always love coming to Aunt Deb and Aunt Kristen's house, and they were absolutely thrilled to take part in our wedding. Kristen's family lives out of town, so we usually spend our holidays, vacations with them. And when my mom passed away, Kristen's mom became my mom, and Kristen is family's my family. And Kristen has this 86-year-old granny and you guys would love her. She's from 09800068.docx 260  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 southern Virginia. She's amazing and I'm blessed to have her in my life. During the week, I make the coffee, Kristen does on the weekends. I do the laundry, she does the dishes. I cook, she eats. Kristen has this amazing ability to call me three minutes after I leave a grocery store to tell me something she forgot that she needed me to pick up. She puts up with my spontaneous home improvement projects, which usually require calling a professional in to finish the job. Kristen drives me absolutely nuts at times. She can be very stubborn, but it's usually me who's driving her crazy. I tend to worry a lot and complain. We try our best to take care of ourselves. We try to eat right and exercise. We like to go running together. On Sunday mornings, you'll find us at a church, All Saints Episcopal, in Chicago. On Sunday nights, you can find us on the couch, we like to watch the Good Wife, Downtown Abbey. We are both fully employed. We give to charity. We save for our retirement. We pay our bills and we pay our taxes. Now, these past 11 months, our vow of in sickness and in health has been tested with my breast cancer diagnosis, double mastectomy and reconstructive surgeries, and Kristen has been my spouse in the truest sense of the word. Among many things, she was by my side for three days in the hospital. She woke up all hours of the night to take care of me. And every day for two weeks, she emptied these drains that came out of my body 'cause I just didn't want to look at them. And today, sometimes, I'm still in a little bit of pain and I get down and I get scared that the cancer's going to come back, and Kristen grabs my hands and holds my hands and tells me how we're going to grow up and be little old ladies 09800068.docx 261  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 together. I love my wife and this is our marriage. This is our gay marriage, our same-sex marriage, our marriage. And I hope by telling you these personal details of our marriage you can see that we are more alike than we are different and at the end of the day, Kristen and I want what you want. We want security. We want good health. We want to be surrounded by our friends and family. We want to watch our nieces and nephew grow up and have their families. We want to grow in our faith. We want to leave this world a little better than we found it and in turn, we pray that life continues to be kind to us. And today, we were hoping that our state could give our union the highest recognition that society gives two people who want to build a life together, and that's marriage. And so, I'm disappointed, obviously, but this vote will be taken and when it does, I'm asking you, my dear colleagues, I love and respect each one of you and I'm asking you, do not side with the people who say that Kristen and I are evil or we don't care about family or we don't care about the institution of marriage because nothing can be further from the truth. But I ask you to, you know, hit that green button because… and hit it for love, hit it for equality, and hit it because we are more alike than we are different. Greg Harris, I love you. Kelly. Sam. Thank you very much."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Sullivan."

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"Leader Cross."

"Speaker Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'll be very brief. I just wish to thank everyone: every Member, every staffer, every person who helped us navigate our way through the last three to four, five, months. Obviously, this is a session where we have not enjoyed a great deal of success. That's very obvious. However, that doesn't mean that we're going to walk away from our responsibility. It means, as Leader Cross said, that huge problems remain. And what we are going to be called upon to do is to give as much effort and dedication to the solutions of those problems as we go forward as we have in the past. I don't think that we should 09800068.docx 268  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 68th Legislative Day 5/31/2013 take our lack of success today as a reason to give up. I think we ought to rededicate ourselves to the task at hand. We're all available when needed, and I think I speak for all of us that we will remain dedicated to the task at hand and we're available to take the tough votes, as we did in the House. So, again, thank you to everybody, Members, staff, whoever it may be. I move that the House stand adjourned to the call of the Chair."

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Speaker Madigan moves that the House adjourn until Tuesday, October 22, at 12 noon or the call of the Chair. Seeing no objection, the House is adjourned." 09800068.docx 269