Illinois House Floor Debate — May 21, 2015

"(sic-The House will be in order.) Members are asked to be at their seats. We shall be led in prayer today by Senior Pastor Mike Bryant, who is with the Grace Community Bible Church in Grayslake, Illinois. Pastor Bryant is the repres… is the guest of Representative Yingling. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all phon… cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance."

"We should be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative C.D. Davidsmeyer."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Representative Brown."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect no excused absences among House Democrats today."

Speaker Turner: "With 117 Members present, a quorum is established. Mr. Clerk, please read HR482."

"Representative Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. It's truly an honor to be able to recognize someone who has given so much of themselves over a period of 43 years to their community and to their area. But more importantly, I think it's just as much of an honor to honor someone that I consider a dear friend and that's Fred Bright. He served, like I said, in public service in one capacity or another for 43 years, the last 18 good years being as mayor. He's an Army veteran, and like I said earlier, he's just a very, very good friend, a humble man who does not like to take credit. But I think it's well-deserved that Fred Bright be given a good round of applause and recognition. He's standing over at my left side up in the gallery. Thank you very much, Fred, for all that you've done."

"Thank you, Representative. The Resolution was adopted on a previous day. Mr. Clerk, House Resolution 207. Representative Bryant. Please read a portion of the Resolution, Mr. Clerk."

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"Lady moves that the House adopt House Resolution 207. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Thank you, Representative. Members, we have a Death Resolution. House Resolution 401, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Bryant."

"The Body shall take a moment of silence. Thank you, Members. The Resolution was adopted on a previous day. Members, continue standing. We have House Resolution 454. Mr. Clerk." 09900052.docx 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Representative McDermed."

"The Body shall take a moment of silence. Thank you, Members. The Lady moves that the House adopt House Resolution 454. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Representative Unes, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Representative. And welcome to your Capitol. Representative David Harris, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Harris, D.: "Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." Harris, D.: "Mr. Speaker, I am not wearing this red nose to look like a clown, although most people in the State of Illinois may think that many of us are clowns. But I am wearing this red nose, and I notice that colleagues on the other side of the aisle also have some red noses, and I… I'm wearing this because I want to honor an Illinois corporation. You may recall that about 18 months ago Walgreens merged with a 09900052.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 European drug store chain. There was a lot of talk that they might do what's known as an inversion. In other words, they move their corporate headquarters over to Europe to take advantage of lower corporate tax rates. However, they decided not to do that. They decided to stay in Illinois. At the same time, though, they brought over a tradition which has been very popular in Europe for the past 20 years, and it's called 'Red Nose Day'. And 'Red Nose Day' is an initiative that helps fight childhood poverty throughout the world. The red noses were sold at Walgreens for a dollar. Fifty cents of that goes to the charity, and those are charities like the Boys and Girls Clubs of America, the Children's Health Fund, The National Urban League, Oxfam America. And it's the first year that Walgreens has done this. They sold five million red noses, five million red noses. And they're also holding, in conjunction with NBC, a telethon to raise money. This joint effort in… in Britain raised almost $90 million to fight child poverty throughout the world. So I'm standing to congratulate Walgreens on two things: one, for being an Illinois corporation and not doing an inversion, and two, for bringing us this tradition of a red nose. As silly as I look, it's a great tra… a great tradition; I hope it sticks. And congratulations to Walgreens."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, Representative. Representative Mayfield, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"I'd like to welcome a group of individuals from my district, the beautiful Waukegan, the women and men from HACES 09900052.docx 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 and our parent-mentor program. They are down here advocating for parent mentors. I'd like everybody to welcome them to Springfield."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Stewart, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Ives, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Mitchell, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Mitchell, C.: "Point of personal privilege." 09900052.docx 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Please proceed." Mitchell, C.: "I hope the Members of the Body will join me in supporting Raymond Poe for President based solely on his stance on fried chicken. But jokes aside, do want to thank Raymond as usual for the great chicken. Thank you so much, Representative."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, Representative. And thank you, Representative Poe. Representative Zalewski, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"It's appropriate that everyone's wearing red noses, because the Cubs Caucus was last night. I want to remind everyone that the Sox Caucus is next Thursday, May 28, at 6 p.m. at D.H. Brown's. We're going to cheer on the South Side baseball team as they make their grand comeback toward the top of the AL Central. And on Monday, August 10, the Sox outing will be at U.S. Cellular against the Anaheim Angels. Let's hope we're all in Chicago to watch that game. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you, Representative. Go Sox. Mr. Clerk."

"Members, we're going to begin on page 13 of the Calendar with Bills… Senate Bills on Second Reading. Please be prepared to move your Bill to Third Reading, if you wish. Senate Bill 7, Representative Christian Mitchell. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 23, Leader Currie. Out of the record. Senate Bill 32, Representative Willis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 47, Representative Dunkin. Representative Dunkin, Senate Bill 47. Out of the record. Senate Bill 44, Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Phelps."

"The Fl… Floor Amendment #10 was an initiative, I believe, with the city… Chicago wanted to be on there. We also put on there the surveyors and also, someone that represents somebody from under two million dol… two million population. I ask for its adoption."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #10 to Senate Bill 44. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Phelps." 09900052.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"This was a Floor Amendment that the… to add on the railroads. So I ask for its adoption."

"Representative Sandack, for a question."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I… you know, this grew, and grew, and grew, and I'm not trying to set the record for amount of Amendments, trust me. But no one…"

"…else has come forward yet."

"I'm not sure. I'm not sure."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #11 to Senate Bill 44. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Representative Ammons, for what reason do you seek recognition?" 09900052.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege, please."

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Thank you. I just want to acknowledge the Graduate Employees' Organization and specifically, the member from University of Illinois, Grant Antoline, up here behind me in the chambers. They're here working on education and education funding, so I appreciate their attendance today. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative, and welcome to your Capitol. Senate Bill 90, Representative Breen. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 202, Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Representative Zalewski, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Mr… Mr. Speaker, inquiry of the Clerk. Is there an Amendment on Senate Bill 202 pending in Rules?"

"Can we hold that Bill on the Order of Second Reading, Mr. Speaker?" 09900052.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Mr. Clerk, please move Senate Bill 202 back to the Order of Second Reading. Thank you. Senate Bill 220, Representative Davidsmeyer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 626. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 655, Representative Rita. Out of the record. Senate Bill 661, Representative McAuliffe. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Clerk, please keep this Bill on the Order of Second Reading. Senate Bill 691, Representative Dunkin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 780, Representative Riley. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09900052.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Mr. Clerk, Third Reading. Senate Bill 805, Representative Mayfield. Out of the record. Senate Bill 838, Representative Rita. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Floor Amendment #2 is the extension of the Sunset Act for the roofing industry and the athletic trainers for another 10 years. We just combined these two Acts to… in the Amendment to put in the underlying Bill, when we do it."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 838. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #3 is a page and line Amendment. It just adds some language for the State Auctioneers Association." 09900052.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #3 to Senate Bill 838. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 843. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 920, Representative Bennett. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1076, Representative Morrison. Representative Morrison. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1271, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1354, Representative Gabel. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1381, Representative Verschoore. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1458, Representative Bryant. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Bryant."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1458. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1440. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1526, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1684, Representative Conroy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. This Amendment, Floor Amendment 2 to the Bill, adds an advisory council to it for a study on neonatal Abs… Abstinence Syndrome, which is a condition that occurs in newborns due to exposure to addictive illegal or prescription drugs while the mom is pregnant."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to Senate Bill 1684. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1564, Representative Gabel. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1726, Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1745, Representative Chapa LaVia. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1763, Representative Feigenholtz. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1781, Representative Rita. Representative Rita. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1782, Representative Rita. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1824, Representative Zalewski. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1747, Representative Sims. Out of the record. On page 12 of the Calendar, on Senate Bills under Third Reading, we have Senate Bill 1793, Representative Kifowit. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Kifowit." 09900052.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the General Assembly, I would… I would certainly appreciate you to give your attention to this Bill. This is a very important Bill. It is… this Bill requires the Illinois State Board of Education to develop a model youth suicide awareness and prevention policy beginning with the 2015-2016 school year. All school boards must adopt a suicide awareness and prevention policy that may be based on ISBE's model policy. This is a sponsor initiative, and it is to honor a constituent, Ann Marie Blaha, who took her own life at age 11, and it is to be referred to as Ann Marie's Law. 1793 requires ISBE to develop a model youth suicide awareness and prevention policy in consultation with the youth suicide prevention organizations and the board organizations. And so, also posts the following information related to suicide awareness and prevention on its website. The model policy for suicide awareness and prevention shall include the following: a statement of youth suicide awareness and prevention, protocols for administering youth suicide awareness and prevention, methods of prevention including procedures for early identification and referral of students, methods of intervention including procedures and address of emotional mental health safety plans, methods of responding to students and staff suicide reporting procedures, and recommended resources on youth suicide. I… I ask…"

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1793 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Lang. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting 09900052.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1793, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 18 of the Calendar, under Senate Bills on Second Reading, we have Senate Bill 1806, Representative Mautino. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 1805. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 26."

"Representative Brown."

"The House will recess ‘til the call of the Chair. Members, we will resume on page 9 of the Calendar with Senate Bills on Third Reading. The first Bill is Senate Bill 1308, Representative Gordon-Booth. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Represent… Representative Gordon-Booth."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This… Senate Bill 1308 is an initiative of the Cook County Public Guardian. What it would do is, it will allow the petitioner who believes that 09900052.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 a person is liable to the estate of a ward, pursuant to a civil action, it would state that they must bring separate court action in order to recover the estate's assets. This passed committee with no opposition. I'm open for your questions. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1308 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Demmer, Ford, McAuliffe, McDermed, Wallace. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1308, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1335, Representative Welch. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill.

"Representative Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1335 is an initiative of the Cook County State's Attorney's Office. It is similar to House Bill 2583, which we've already passed through this chamber this Session. We just made a minor tweak to it, with House Committee Amendment #1, which addressed which the… which addressed some small opposition that we received. It passed committee unanimously. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1335 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please 09900052.docx 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 take the record. On a count of 115 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1335, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1340, Representative Sims. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1340 extends the time… the reporting requirement for the school security and standards task force. And then Hou… House Floor Amendment #2 adds the reading instruction advisory group ex… extension… advisory group extension. I know of no opposition. It came out of committee with… unanimously. And I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Representative Feigenholt… Feigenholtz, would you like to speak on the Bill? So, the question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1340 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representatives. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1340, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Feigenholtz, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to be recorded as voting 'aye' on Senate Bill 1335. My switch was not working." 09900052.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

Speaker Turner: "The Journal will reflect your request, Representative. Thank you. Senate Bill 1344, Representative Beiser. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This is an initiative of the Illinois Asso… Illinois Association of Lake Communities. And what it does, for these common interest communities, right now, they have to have two-thirds of their members sign a petition to start the process to incorporate. This takes that down to 51 percent of the peoples in the… people in the common interest community."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1344 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 115 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 1 voting ‘present', Senate Bill 1344, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1377, Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have an initiative today from DNR. The intent of the Bill is to expand DNR's authority to penalize those who submit 09900052.docx 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 false information on their oil and gas applications. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1377 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Golar. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1377, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1378, Representative Phelps. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Phelps."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Again, this is another initiative of DNR. This just allows them the process to clean up abandoned wells. And I ask an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1378 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Gordon-Booth. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1378, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative David Harris, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Harris, D.: "Thank you, Speaker. A point of personal privilege, if I may?" 09900052.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Please proceed, Sir." Harris, D.: "If I… if I can introduce my two Pages for the day, Marianne Schraeder, who is from a middle school in my district, and her cousin, Pat Meredith, who is a… a freshman at Michigan State University. He's down here to see how laws are made. Now there's a scary thought. Let's welcome them to Springfield."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, and welcome to your Capitol. Representative Ford, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I rise for a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Mr. Speaker, we have someone that represents our community, down there in your community, in Representative Lilly's community, and it's Westside Health Authority. Right here, give them all a big round of applause for all the work that they do to make the west side the best side."

"Thank you, Representative. And welcome to your Capitol. Senate Bill 1383, Representative Kelly Burke. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1383 creates the 'Achieving a Better Life Experience' account program. The acronym is 'ABLE'. ABLE was a concept that was put forth in federal legislation, passed the U.S. Congress in December of 2014 with broad bipartisan support. It has bipartisan support 09900052.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 in the House as well. Leader Bellock, Representative Pritchard, Representative Fine, and I are the Sponsors. And what the ABLE program does is allows people with disabilities to set up savings accounts that are federally tax exempt. And they can use the proceeds of those accounts to pay for things that they need to achieve a better life experience, items that are not covered by insurance or through ei… either private insurance or public program. It allows them to have these savings accounts and not have their status jeopardized for Medicaid and… and other government programs. It will be housed in the… and administered by the Treasurer’s Office, very similar to a college savings program. And so, we'd like to get this legislation authorizing the program, and then, we'll work, once the Federal Government promulgates all the rules for the program, the Treasurer’s Office will work to put it together. It has a broad list of supporters. Many advocates were active in getting the legislation passed on the federal level and are supported at the state level. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Leader Bellock."

"Representative Burke to close." Burke, K.: "This is a fantastic legislation. It can benefit people in every single one of our districts. It… it's something that advocates for folks with disabilities have been asking for for years. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1383 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hernandez. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1383, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1388, Representative Fortner. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Fortner."

"Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Representative Fortner to close."

"The question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1388 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Andrade. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1388, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1389, Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1388 allows for the use of therapy dogs when the victim of a… a child victim of a sex or violent crime appears in court. We had Mitchell the dog in committee to… to show… to show us how to do this… to show us what a… a therapy dog is. It's an important Bill. I believe Illinois would be the first state in the country to allow therapy dogs to appear in court to help victims testify. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Barbara Wheeler."

"No?"

"Representative Cabello."

"Representative Zalewski to close."

"Hi, Barbara. I'd ask for… I'd ask for an 'aye'… 'aye' vote."

"The question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1389 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 117 voting ‘yes’, 0 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1389, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Wheeler, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"We'll get you some help, Representative. Senate Bill 1408, Representative Hoffman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Lar… Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1408 does not deal with anything in Cook County, so Cook County is exempt. It says that outside of Cook County, if you are a recycling facility and… you can only be charged a fee of $2 thousand or if you are in a beneficial-use facility, a fee of $1500. This does not affect other agreements between local governments and these facilities. I ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Representative Sandack."

"He will accept your inquiry."

"Yes, it would. But it doesn't… but it excludes Cook County."

Speaker Turner: "Well, let me get an answer for you, Representative.

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 09900052.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Thank you. Does this… does this Bill negate a host agreement, or a contract that a municipality might have with a third party recycling company?"

"It… it's my intent that it will not negate any agreements… host agreements that they would have."

"Okay. So, tipping fees that have been negotiated between a municipality and a third party would not be subject to this legislation?"

"That's correct."

"Okay. Thank you very much."

"Representative Sandack, to answer your question, this… this piece of legislation will take 60 votes to pass. Representative Hoffman to close."

"This will… would limit the… the fees that can be charged for these types of recycling facilities or beneficial-use facilities. I think it's a business-friendly Bill. And I ask for a 'aye' vote."

"The question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1408 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Golar, Pritchard, Sente, Wallace, Jones. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 90 voting ‘yes’, 24 voting ‘no’, and 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1408, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1410, Representative Gabel. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09900052.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill creates a Certificate of Religious Exemption and asks that parents filing for this exemption have their health care provider sign this form, signifying that they had a conversation with the parent about the health benefits and risks of immunization. This is a negotiated Bill. It was agreed upon in the Senate. Laura Cellini, who's been a big advocate, has agreed to this Bill. The Bill will not, in any way, change any definition of religious exemption, nor will it change where this form is submitted. It continues to be submitted to the school. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative, is this the right Bill today?

"It is."

"Thank you, thank you. So what is the law today, Representative, that you have changed that would necessitate this legislation? Because there's already the law dealing with the religious exemption in regards to immunization."

"Yes. All this Bill does is that currently parents just write a note, and submit it to the schools that they have a religious exemption. What this law does is it has… creates a new form that they then have to bring to the doctor, and the doctor signs off that they educated them about the benefits and risks of immunization." 09900052.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"So, your Bill is now saying that the person that gave birth and responsible for taking care of the child, their word is not good enough. Their signature is not good enough. Now the parent have to get permission from a doctor to authenticate that they were educated…"

"No."

"…on this issue. Now, why would you think that they're not educated in the first place? That's number one question."

"Okay. There's a lot of… there's a lot of misinformation that goes around about immunizations. The immun… the religious exemptions have increased in this state, and they are the fifth… we're the state with the fifth most number of religious exemptions. There’s one…"

"That's the law, Representative.”

"I understand that.”

“They’re entitled to that.”

“I understand that.’

“And so, if…”

“They've gone from…”

"…if there's an increase, that is the parent's right. So, why are you…"

"That is their right, and it will continue to be that right."

"And so, but as a result, you want someone else to authenticate and give the parent permission to say it's okay. But let me ask you this. What happens, Representative, if that doctor decide that he does not want to give that parent that authorization. Then what?" 09900052.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Okay. So, the doctor is not giving authorization. He is making no… he or she is making no decision about the religious exemption. All they are doing is signing the form saying that they have educated the patient to their… the benefits and risks. If that doctor does… refuses to sign the form, then the parent can sign a note under that, and say, I went for… I… this… I went to the doctor, but the doctor refused to sign the form."

"And then…"

"And then the school has the right as to whether they accept that or not."

"The school has… right now, all the parent have to do is write a letter without going to the doctor. That…"

"Well, the doctor… if the… there… there's no additional doctor visits. This form is going to be required at kindergarten, sixth grade, and high school. It's the same time when… when children have to get physicals anyway…"

"Representative, I…"

"…so there's no additional visit to the doctor."

"Representative, I think you're missing the point. The point that I want to make… to the Bill, Ladies and Gentlemen. The point that I would like to make about this legislation, I know the importance of immunization, and we already have an exemption today. But right now, this Bill… if this Bill were to become law, as a parent we would lose our authority over our children and the decision that we would like to make. And this Bill is saying that a doctor would have to authenticate… I would have to get permission from the doctor. And once again, I just want to read to you what a Supreme Court 09900052.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 decision has said about the rights of a parent and their child. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that parents possess the fundamental rights to direct the upbringing and the education of their children. Furthermore, the courts declare that the children are not mere creatures of the state. Those who nurture him and direct his or her destiny have the right, coupled with the duty, to recognize and prepare him for additional obligations. The Supreme Court further goes on to say and criticizes the State Legislators for trying to interfere with the powers of the parents to control the education of their own children and the health care. In Meyer, the Supreme Court held that the rights of parents to raise their children free from unreasonable state interference is one of the unwritten liberties protected by the due process clause of the 14th Amendment. And the only thing that I'm saying that that 14th Amendment means something to me, and it should mean something to each and every last one of us. And if I have to start getting permission today, what else down the line will I have to get permission for? I would urge everyone, and I'm clearly stating it, I will urge everyone to vote 'no' on Senate Bill 1410. This is a bad Bill. This is interfering with parents' rights in this state. Thank you."

"Can we please bring the noise level down in the gallery? There's debate going on. Thank you very much. Representative Bellock, for what… Representative Bellock is recognized."

"The Sponsor will yield." 09900052.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"That's my understanding. I… I would suggest that the parent would sign underneath and say that they brought the child, that they were educated, and… and then the school makes the final decision."

"Yes."

"Sure."

"Representative Andersson."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Correct. This language actually was… is… is currently in the statute. So it was just at… it was just part of the… of the Bill. They do not… they cannot decide on if that person's religious objection is valid or not, just that they have filled it out the form."

"Chair recognizes Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Davis, M.: "Who is EverThrive?"

"EverThrive is a coalition of organizations… statewide organizations that… that work to improve the health of women and children in Illinois." Davis, M.: "Now, the legislation that you passed yesterday, in reference to all child care workers having to be immunized, the Department of Children and Family Services were opposed to that deal. Is that correct?"

"They were neutral." Davis, M.: "No, they were opposed. I talked to them this morning."

"Well…" Davis, M.: "They were opposed…"

"…they were…" Davis, M.: "…and they told me why. Because it would cost $300 per person, and they weren't sure who would be responsible for that, but that's passed.”

"That is passed." Davis, M.: "Now, on this Bill, when students in kindergarten… in the sixth grade are required to have physical exams?"

"Correct." 09900052.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Davis, M.: "Okay. So if they go to school, and they have the doctor statement, everything is fine. Is that correct?"

"Pardon?" Davis, M.: "Is this for the children or the parents?"

"This is for the children." Davis, M.: "Okay. So if they go to school, and they have a doctor's statement that they had the immunization, everything is fine."

"Correct." Davis, M.: "But if a parent said I really don't want my child vaccinated at this point. What right does that parent still have?"

"In Illinois, there are two ways that you cannot have your child immunized. One is if they have a medical exemption, and the second is if they have a religious exemption. That is the current law in Illinois." Davis, M.: "So your Bill does exactly what to that current law?"

"My Bill… what it says is that if somebody chooses to have a religious exemption, then they need to fill out a Certificate of Religious Exemption." Davis, M.: "Okay. Who's going to keep these certificates? Who's keeping all these certificates?"

"What?" Davis, M.: "Who's keeping them? Who's keeping them?"

"Department of Public Health." Davis, M.: "So then, the parent fills out a… a certificate…"

"They submit it to the school…" Davis, M.: "…and then they… they submit it to the school…"

"…actually the school hold it… the schools hold them." 09900052.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Davis, M.: "…they send it to the school…"

"Yes." Davis, M.: "…and then the school submits it to… where's the school send it?"

"The Department of Public Health." Davis, M.: "And the Department of Public Health now keeps these records?"

"That's my understanding." Davis, M.: "And what about the so-called edu… education of the parent, some place where it says that the physician will sign a paper that he did ed…"

"That’s the Certificate of Religious Exemption, and that… that states the parents' religious exemption. And then, it also states that the doctor educated the parent about the benefits and risks of immunization. And they sign that form." Davis, M.: "To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. In the State of Illinois, we have not had an outbreak of any unvaccinated or vaccinated childhood diseases. We had five cases in Palatine, Illinois. Five cases of measles in one child care center, so we changed the whole State Law. We're acting as if some major outbreak of measles or childhood diseases have taken over in the State of Illinois, and it's just not true. And what happens is, we pay for this as taxpayers. Now the department has to have someone maintain all these records of this immunization… of these signatures coming in and make sure that they're there. It's just extra paperwork. And I don't know who gets the contract to do this, but it's not fair to the rest of us. It's just not fair to the rest of us. The Governor wants to reduce the spending in the State of Illinois. And when we 09900052.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 look at some of these Bills that are frivolous, frivolous and overweight… I'm a mother. I belong to whatever religion. I don't want this child vac… vaccinated, so I take this to the school. But now the Department of Public Health, or Human Services, or DCFS, they all have to be involved and keep a record of this. It is overkill. It's overkill. I urge a 'no' vote."

"Representative Morrison."

"Chair recognizes Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." 09900052.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"With this, are… am I correct in saying that we're not asking for an additional doctor's of… visit, just at their regular visits that they're getting for their…"

"Correct."

"…school physicals?"

"Correct."

"And we're just expanding that form to have a place where the doctor can state that they discussed immunizations with the parent?"

"Correct. There… there's no additional paperwork. There are no additional burdens to the state with this Bill. This is…"

"And… and the doctor will not be stating one way or the other whether they advise the parent to change their plans on immunization. The parent still has total authority to make their informed decision. Am I correct?"

"You are correct. The doctor's only stating that they have provided the parent with information about the benefits and risks."

"Thank you. So, to the Bill, Members of this… I have four children. They have all been immuni… immunized. That was my decision. But I think it's also very vital that we do realize that where this outbreak took place, these children were not given that opportunity because they were too young. But they were infected by somebody that was not immunized. And that's something that we need to make sure, that we are aware that people understand the risk that they can bring to others that don't have that option to get immunized, due to their age, maybe due to a medical reason, if they're going to be in a 09900052.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 situation. So I think that this Bill doesn't really necessarily add undue burden of more paperwork to our system. We're doing something that is already being done. You're going for your school physical. And we’re just asking the doctor to take a minute to inform the parent the pros and cons on immunization. It may very well be that the doctor may say due to the child's medical background, it might not be to their advantage to get immunized. But they're simply stating on that form, I've talked to this parent, that they are making their good informed decision. I don't think this takes away parental control. I just think that it actually adds to it. It allows these parents to be better informed. And I would strongly urge an 'aye' vote on this Bill. Thank you."

"Representative Ford."

"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, I just have two questions. Under current law, a parent has a right to opt out of getting these shots. Is that correct?"

"Only if they have a religious exemption for their child, or if they have a medical… if there's a medical issue."

"And under current law, if the parent wants to opt out of the test, they will be granted without question. Is that correct?"

"Pardon? They still have to submit a letter to the school st… stating what their religious exemption is."

"Will it have to be approved, or is it automatic?"

"Pardon?" 09900052.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Will the school have to approve the exemption, or is it automatic?"

"Yes. The… yes. The school is… yes, the school has a responsibility to… to review the exemption."

"And… and under what guides will the school have a right to object to and deny the exemption from these shots?"

"They will just… they will just look to see that it meets the law. The law says that an objection must set forth the specific religious belief that conflicts with the exam or immunization."

"And if this Bill should pass, how would that change?"

"It would not change it at all. It just has a new form that the parents would fill out, instead of a piece of paper. And it has the doctor sign the form when they go to the doctor for their regular physical exams, stating that they gave the parent information about the benefits and the risks."

"So right now, a letter to the school is not enough just to be… for a child to be exempt from the procedures. That's what you're saying."

"It… it will not simply be a… it will be a letter, but that the letter will be on a particular form, and it will have a doctor's signature on it."

"And so, now, if this Bill passed, the doctor has the authority to make the decision."

"No. The doctor does not have the authority to make any decision. The parents have the right for a religious exemption. They will submit that form to the school. Same as it is today." 09900052.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"I'm still a little confused. So why do we… what would be the purpose of doing this?"

"Purpose is that there is a lot of misinformation out there about the benefits and risks of immunizations and that… that many of the advocates felt that it was important and… including… including EverThrive, every health department in the state, the Illinois Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Illinois Academy of Family Physicians, the Society for Advanced Practice Nurses, Ounce of Prevention Fund, and as I said, Illinois Association of Public Health Administrators, feel that it's important for parents to have the information that they need to make the right decision."

"Okay. So the purpose is, we believe that parents are not informed enough to make the decision."

"Some parents may not be. This is just to ensure that the parents get the information they need to make an informed choice."

"Okay. Thank you."

"But they're… they continue to have the same rights as they have always had, is that they have a religious belief, they… their child does not have to be immunized."

"Thank you."

"Representative Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Will, what's the… Robyn, what's the nature of the religious opt out, at this point? What… what does a person have to say to achieve it?"

"I think I just read it. Let me look." 09900052.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"I’m sorry."

"Where is it? This one. Yes. It says, according to Illinois law, an objection must set forth the specific religious belief that conflicts with the exam or immunization. The religious objection may be personal and need not be directed by the tenets of an established religious organization. So, apparently, it's happened."

"But… but in your… in your opinion, speci… specificity is not what's occurring right now, right? There… that no spec… a person could legitimately walk into their doctor's office and say, my conscience simply doesn't allow me to immunim… immunize my kids. Ergo, I wish to use this exemption to…"

"They submit it…"

"It’s a word."

"…they submit that… they would put that on the form, and the form is submitted to the school. The doctor would make no decision about if that's a religious exemption or not. It is not up to the doctor to make that decision. The decision is up to the school. I have not known of any school to say, I… I don't accept your religious objection. It can't… as I said, it does not have to be with any religious organization. It can be your personal religion of one, that in your… in your religious views, that this is not something that you want to have for your child."

"And why is the Department of Public Health… Illinois Department of Public Health neutral on this Bill?"

"Oh. Because as you know, the departments are all new and they're all trying to figure out which way to go and what forms do they need and not need. It's that… it wasn't a… they… 09900052.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 they do believe that… they strongly believe that immunizations are important. But I think that there was just still some… they're just not exactly sure what they're doing yet."

"Can they take direction from the 65 or so local department of public healths that are proponents of the Bill?"

"You would think they would."

"Okay. And when there's an outbreak, isn't it fair to say that the… the Department of Public Health expends taxpayer money on education, on press, on alerts, to try to… make people aware of what they should and shouldn't do in the case of an outbreak like we had this past… this past year?"

"Yes. All those expenses, as well as investigators to try to track down and figure out the source of the… of the immun… of the infection."

"To… to the Bill. I guess I can understand the… the concerns raised pr… previously. But let me just say what was… echo what's been said before. I have a 1-year-old daughter who can't get the measles vaccine. And we had to avoid taking her into public spaces this… this year because we weren't sure if there was going to be someone with the measles contamination in the same space. There's something called herd immunity. And what that means is we have to rely upon everybody getting the vaccine, so that those who cannot get the vaccine are protected. That's the way it's supposed to work. Forget about the fact of individuals opting in or opting out. Herd immunity is a big part of medical education and preventing disease out… outbreaks. And that's why every single local department of public health is in favor of this 09900052.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Bill. It's a good Bill. We need to tighten up these criteria. I str… I really wish the Illinois Department of Public Health were as proponents of this Bill because it's excellent legislation. And it deserves an 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Moffitt."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"The Department of Public Health would make it available to the school districts for them to provide to the parents."

"Yes, for their local school."

"Correct."

"Yes."

"It would be available at the school."

"Chair recognizes Representative Will Davis." 09900052.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor will yield." Davis, W.: "Representative, can you clear something up for me? It seems like…"

"I will try." Davis, W.: "…I heard an earlier debate that it is possible that if a parent has made a decision that they don't want their child to receive a immunization, that the parent can, based on their own feelings, ask for this religious exemption. Is that correct?"

"A parent… you can… you can ask for either a religious exemption or a medical exemption, if there are medical reasons for the child not to have the…" Davis, W.: "Okay. Well, again…"

"…the immunization." Davis, W.: "…but if a parent has just their own feeling about whether or not they want their…"

"There is not a philosophical exemption in the State of Illinois." Davis, W.: "There is not a philosophical…"

"There is not a philosophical exemption." Davis, W.: "So, if I… if I'm a parent, and I go to the school, and I just say, I don't want my child to get a… a vaccination. And they say, well, is there a religious reason or… And I go, no, I just don't want it. And they say, well, we can't offer it to you because we only allow for religious exemptions. And then the parent goes, well, I believe that I don't want my child to get a vaccination. What would the school do? Are they going to deny the parent?" 09900052.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"No. No. The child would… the school would then have to accept it, if the parent says I have a religious exempt… I… according to my religion, I don't want my child to be immunized, then they would not…" Davis, W.: "Even… even if that's really not why they want to have it? I'm… I'm just trying to be clearer."

"Yeah, if they say that's the reason, then that's the reason." Davis, W.: "Okay. So…"

"Nobody's going to question their… their faith." Davis, W.: "No one's questioning their faiths, but they will question their personal beliefs."

"They will not question if… if the… if the parent says that it's a religious exempt… asking for a religious exemption, then they will have that religious exemption." Davis, W.: "So, if it's not a… if the parent just says, I don't want my child to have it. The school will say, no, your child has to have it."

"That's the law in Illinois and in most other states." Davis, W.: "Okay. So the… the legislation only signals for…"

"We don't change… we don't change that aspect of the law at all." Davis, W.: "You don't… well, I understand you don't. I'm just trying… it sounds like earlier, it sound… it seems like that could be a valid reason why. And I'm just trying to make sure it's not…"

"That's not." Davis, W.: "…because the Bill is about a religious exemption."

"Correct." 09900052.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Davis, W.: "Well, what if there's really no real religious reason why a parent doesn't want their child to have an… a immunization?"

"Well, then, the… the law, as currently states, they could… they would… they would not be available for an exemption." Davis, W.: "Thank you."

"Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. I give my time to Representative Flowers."

"Representative Flowers."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I want to make it perfectly clear that I do not object to current law, in regards to immunization. What I object to, in this particular Bill, is I have… the doctor already is authenticating whether or not I have the exemption or not. This Bill is asking that I get a certificate from the doctor. It's not enough that my medical records have to go to the Department of Public Health, as well as the schools. It's now my medical record and I have to ask this doctor for this certificate. And I have to… he's assuming that I've never taken my doc… my child to the doctor before. And I have to listen to what it is that he has to tell me. And he can make a decision on whether or not he wants to sign off on this. The Department of Public Health is against this Bill as well. So it's not that I am against immunization. I do know that there is the exemptions. There's two exemptions that's already out there. The only thing that I'm saying is this legislation is not needed. And once again, I would urge a 'no' vote." 09900052.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Representative Gabel to close."

"Thank you… thank you very much. And thank you all for this vibrant discussion. As you know, measles are… is the greatest vaccine-preventable killer of children in the world today. Vaccinations have prevented innumerable deaths in this country and in this state. This Bill is a… is a good public health Bill. The Department of Public Health is neutral on this Bill. They are not against it. Doctors will not be able to make decisions on whether there isn't a religious exemption or not. They are only stating that they have provided parents with the necessary information that they need to make this decision. I believe that this Bill protects children, and it also protects the rights of the parents. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1410 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 85 voting ‘yes’, 28 voting ‘no’, 4 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1410, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Kifowit, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Today, I want to welcome and introduce, along with State Representative Fran Hurley, and Senator Hastings, two…Excuse me. Can I get a little bit of quiet?"

"Thank you, Members. Please bring the noise down." 09900052.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Thank you, Speaker. Welcome and introduce two brave parents who traveled down from the south suburban of Chicago, Mr. Mike Blaha and Mrs. Sue Blaha of Orland Park. They are to my right. If they'd like to stand and be recognized. Mike and Sue are exceptional parents of three children, Ron, Melissa, and Ann Marie. Mike is a deputy police chief of the Village of Orland Hills, and Sue is a nurse at the local hospital. Unfortunately, tragedy happened to their family when their daughter, Ann Marie, committed suicide at the age of 11. Rather than doing nothing, they started a not-for-profit organization, a scholarship foundation, and took the initiative to ensure that parents and educators across Illinois are aware of the signs of suicide and that preventative measures are in place. They traveled to Springfield and worked hard for all families across Illinois. Ann Marie's Law, which I appreciate, Members, we just passed out of the chamber, and shortly will be on the way to the Governor's desk, will do just this: it will ensure that schools across Illinois will have policies that bring awareness to youth suicide and prevent further tragedies. Representative Hurley, myself, Senator Hastings, along with the Blahas, believe that if we can save one life, and hopefully more, we will have fulfilled our mission in this world. They are great parents, continuing to serve and protect our community. And I would like for everyone to stand and honor this great family. Thank them for being part of the Democratic process, and give them a warm, Springfield welcome." 09900052.docx 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Thank you, Representative. Mr. Clerk, HJRCA26. Speaker Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Constitutional Amendment would provide that for Illinoisans that file an Illinois income tax return, which indicates an adjusted gross income of over a million dollars, that the amount of income over a million dollars would be subjected to a three percent surcharge for distribution to local school districts on a per pupil basis. We estimate that using the 2012 numbers this would have resulted in a distribution of $489 per pupil in the first year of the effectiveness of the tax. The Resolution would provide that the surcharge would be effective for tax year 2017. And we estimate that it would… it would net to the state about $1 billion a year for this distribution to the local school districts. Mr. Speaker, I'm available for questions."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"He indicates that he will."

"I'll take your word for it."

"I'll… I'll take your word for it, again."

"I'm sure you're ready to help my recall."

"Somewhat, yes."

"Again, somewhat."

"Mr. Sandack, I have no reason to disagree with your rendition of history. I'm simply offering an opportunity for the voters of Illinois to vote on a Constitutional Amendment that would provide revenue for local school districts. The local school districts could decide how they wish to spend that money. They could spend it on a contract negotiation. They could dedicate it to pension payments. They could dedicate it to capital improvements. That's the essence of this Amendment."

"I think your line of reasoning relates to the condition of what we characterize as the five state pension systems, four of which were subject to Senate Bill 1, which was recently up before the Illinois Supreme Court. Again, if… if you wish to speak to the history of the financial condition 09900052.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 of this pension systems, that's your prerogative. My purpose today is to talk about a Constitutional Amendment to give more money to school districts."

"Leader Durkin."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Mr. Durkin, are you looking at the language that establishes the Illinois income tax as a flat-rate tax?"

"Yeah, I'm not in the position to answer your question because I'm told that that language is not in the language of the Constitutional Amendment. I don't have it in front of me."

"Mr. Durkin, the Illinois Constitution provides that the Illinois income tax will be a flat tax. And what's being 09900052.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 proposed in this Constitutional Amendment would be in addition to the already established income tax."

"The answer is no."

"The answer is no."

"It would appear on the ballot in November of 2016."

"General Election."

"The… the General Assembly can provide for the Amendments of up to three Articles of the Constitution."

"Yes."

"Yeah, Mr. Durkin, I support term limits as administered by the voters of the state." 09900052.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Again, I would suggest that the voters are very capable of administering term limits."

"Chair recognizes Representative McSweeney." 09900052.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"The Chair recognizes Representative Reis."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Personal income should be taken as not corporate income."

"It's as I said. It's… it's the adjusted gross income."

"And… and the specific answer to your question would be on the Illinois income tax form. If you go to step six, question 13… step six, question 13. That's the answer to your question."

"Mr. Reis, was that a question?"

"Mr. Reis, I can read you a statement that relates to the AGI."

"And it reads that the AGI is equal to the total income subject to income tax, such as salary, self-employment, alimony income, interest from bank accounts minus specific deductions or adjustments that reduce your total income such as self-employment taxes, alimony… alimony payments, IRA contributions, educational expenses, but before certain exemptions and standard deduction or itemized deductions such as state income taxes and mental and dental expenses."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield." 09900052.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Mr. Speaker, I have a few questions. What is a House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment, and why do we do them?"

"This particular Resolution is authorized under the Constitution. It's a method by which the Legislature can initiate the process of amending the Illinois Constitution. Legislature only initiates. The Legislature authorizes the question being submitted to the voters in a General Election. If the voters vote in favor of what's before them, then that'll become part of the Constitution. If the voters reject it, it does not become part of the Constitution."

"So if this House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment passes both chambers, will millionaires begin paying taxes immediately?"

"No. The answer is no, because if the Resolution would have passed both chambers, that would only be the first step, before the question would be put to the voters. If the voters in November of 2016 approve this Resolution, then the… the effective date of it would be in January of 2017 for tax year 2017."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Fortner."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"The answer is yes."

"You're very kind to characterize my activity as active. It's very kind of you. Again… and I don't know the answer to your question."

"It… that may have been a collective motivation of the delegates to the convention. I think it's significant that that particular convention voted against the graduated income tax. That's the convention that provided for a flat rate tax. And this would simply give the voters an opportunity to move somewhat away from that decision of 1970."

"The answer is no."

"Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield." Harris, D.: "Thank you. Sir, before I ask some questions, I would like to say that your comment about the fact that should this Amendment ever take place and the Amendment… or the Constitution be amended, that you're using adjusted gross income as now determined, adjusted gross income. That is a very important point for legislative intent. And I'm glad you put that into the record, because should this ever pass, they will look back and only going to say we want to use adjusted gross income. Okay, if I can, some questions. Why now? Why… why are we putting this forward now?"

"My view this time is as good as any other time." Harris, D.: "If… if this should… well, this, should it pass, it will go to the voters at the ballot on… in November of 2016, correct?" 09900052.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"The answer is yes." Harris, D.: "Which means that, presumably, since the responsibility is of the Legislature to then enact the law that would… would… and the provisions that would… would enact this, or to make this take effect, we're looking at, potentially, the revenues from this coming in in FY18. Correct?"

"Yes. The answer’s yes." Harris, D.: "Don't we have a more immediate budget problem?"

"I think we do." Harris, D.: "So wouldn't it be more reasonable than putting a Constitutional Amendment that wouldn't bring in any additional revenue until, potentially, FY18, maybe putting something forward like a revenue increase for FY16 that doesn't require 71 votes, but might only require 60 votes?"

"Some people in the Body might think along those lines. Do you plan to file a Bill?" Harris, D.: "You never know, do you? You never know. This is great theater. Do you… are you aware that the… the Majority Leader of the Senate has said… of the Illinois Senate has said that no Constitutional Amendments will be considered until next year?"

"I'm aware of that statement." Harris, D.: "So if this House were to pass it, I'm going to take the Majority Leader of the Senate at his word, and nothing happens on this until next year. This is great political theater, but it doesn't help us immediately. Why… why choose a million dollars? That's a big number, but why not 750 thousand, or 900 thousand, or 800 thousand?" 09900052.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"I don't have an answer to that question. Your point is well-taken. The number could've been changed." Harris, D.: "Well, thank you. And just briefly, to the Amendment, Ladies and Gentlemen. You know, it's easy. It's easy to pick on somebody who has an income on an annual basis of a million dollars. It's a big number. I'm envious of those people. I wish I had been that smart enough and creative enough and aggressive enough to earn a million dollars in a year, but I'm not. And I'm not going to stand here to defend millionaires. I'm not going to stand here and defend Irene Rosenfeld, the CEO of Mondelez, who gets compensation of $28 million, or James McNe… McNerney of CEO… a CEO of Boeing… Boeing that gets $27 million, or even Robert Parkinson, the CEO of Baxter, who tips the compensation scale at a mere $17 million. Now, I grant you, those are total compensation, but all of their annual salaries exceed a million dollars. And raising the tax on folks like that, it's not going to hurt them because they'll simply go to their boards of directors and get an increase in their salaries anyway. I'm not going to defend them. You know why? Because they're not job creators. Granted, they run big corporations that employ thousands… tens of thousands of people around the world, but do they create jobs right here in Illinois? The people who take the chances, the people who take the risks, the entrepreneurs, the people who put their blood, sweat, and tears into their effort and hope to hit it big, those are the people that we're going to hit. You know, about two months ago, I had the opportunity to visit a place called 1871, and some of you have probably been there. It's located in the 09900052.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Merchandise Mart. And when you go into Mer… when you go into 1871, you know what you see? You see a whole bunch of young, creative, talented people sitting around computers, hoping that their efforts result in the next Google, in the next Groupon, in the next GrubHub. If they're successful, they're going to hit it big. And you know what we're saying to them? If you're successful, we're going to nail you. We're going to tax you even more for the hard work and the dedication that you put into being successful. So I'm not going to stand here and defend those corporate CEOs who take home multimillion dollar paychecks. But I am going to stand here and defend those folks at 1871 and the small-business people around the state, who have labored so hard to build small businesses and run family farms and contribute so much to the Illinois economy. I want folks to know that our tax system treats everyone equally, and I'm not going to vote for this Amendment that will tax them on their success. That's what it is. It is a tax on success. I'm voting 'no'. I urge you to vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Representative Morrison."

"Chair recognizes Representative Martwick." 09900052.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Speaker of the House yield for a couple of questions?"

"Speaker will yield."

"Speaker Madigan, I've been listening to the debate and I thought maybe I could ask a few qu… questions that might help put some of this in context. Our colleague across the aisle mentioned about how Missouri has a tax rate of 6 percent which kicks in on every dollar of income after $9 thousand. So from $9 thousand to a million, the people in Missouri are paying 6 percent currently. Is that correct? Pretty good math, right? In Illinois, what are people between $9 thousand and a million currently paying on their income? 3… 3.75."

"3.75."

"Okay. And we would be asking people, on every dollar earned after a million, to then pay an additional 3 percent. So on the million and one dollar to whatever they should be so successful to make, past a million dollars, they would then pay 6.75 percent. Is that correct?"

"That's correct."

"But still, on the first million that they earn, they would still be only paying 3.75 percent. Is that right?"

"Yes."

"And in Missouri, as our colleague told us, they would be paying 6 percent on that, and they would continue to pay 6 percent on every dollar over a million. You know, we often hear about how high our taxes are her… here is Illinois. And… and I looked, probably at the same study that my colleague looked at, and… and I was very fascinated by it, because when I looked at Illinois as a flat-tax state, at 3.75, it's… it's 09900052.docx 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 kind of hard to compare to the states with… with progressive rates. But if you were to try and compare apples to apples, Illinois currently sits at about the 40th highest tax rate in the country, or 10th lowest, at 3.75 percent. Do you understand that to be correct, Mr. Speaker?"

"The answer is yes."

"So if we look at this, and… and I firmly agree with my colleagues who would support some sort of progressivity to our tax rate, because of the fairness that it creates and the fact that it would capture the growth of our economy in the highest income levels, which our taxes fail to do, our flat tax. But as I look through this, I… I find the rates that are currently out there fascinating. We constantly hear about how this will take people who are job creators and force them to move out of our state to other states. And I wonder, besides the example of Texas, where they might go. So I looked in the tax rates and, Mr. Speaker, would you be surprised to know that in Arkansas, which I think most people would consider a pretty conservative state, that their highest tax bracket begins at $35 thousand a year and their rate is 6.9 percent. So that means people in Illinois would be paying 6.75 percent on every dollar they earned over a million dollars, 3.75 percent on every dollar they earned under a million dollars. And yet, in Arkansas, on every dollar they earn over $35 thousand, they would pay 6.9 percent, meaning they would be… have a higher tax burden in the State of Arkansas. Oregon, 9.9 percent on every dollar over 125 thousand. South Carolina, 7 percent on every dollar over 14,500. 14,500, they pay 7 percent more than that. Iowa, our neighbor, every dollar over 09900052.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 70 thousand, so 70 thousand to a million, 8.98 percent. So I wonder, Mr. Speaker, where all these people are going to move? Mr. Speaker, you… you might be interested to find that including the District of Columbia, and… and I will, for the record, if anybody wants to correct me, I included certain states like Georgia, where they're making… they're paying 6 percent on every income… every dollar of income over $7 thousand. And I assume, that for the sake of argument, most people, you could take people earning up to $2 million a year, that even with this surcharge, they'd be paying less taxes in the State of Illinois. So including those, if you want to point out the failure, I took everything over 6 percent where they have a relatively low beginning for that… the highest level of income where the 6 percent kicks in, that there would be roughly 22 states where people making a million dollars or more would be paying a higher income tax than they would be paying here in Illinois. Now, we've heard about how wonderful our state is, despite the fact that some of us feel the need to constantly beat on the State of Illinois. We do know, ‘cause I've talked to many manufacturers, that Illinois has premier state in terms of access to transportation, access to water, access to energy. We have one of the best networks of… of roads. We have one of the best networks of rail. We certainly have unbelievable access to air transportation for cargo. So there are many reasons to come here. We als… we also, as I've talked to many manufacturers, they told me that we have one of the premier workforces, trained and accessible and ready to work. That's why they like to be here. And yet, we make this argument out to seem as though that we will tax 09900052.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 these people out of the state, when the reality of it is nothing could be further from the truth. And I will tell you, Mr. Speaker, I resent the implication that because I want to find a way to raise revenue to pay for essential services in our state, that I am seeking to punish those who have had successes in our state. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't earn a million dollars a year, I will tell you that, but I do okay. And I will gladly pay a higher sum to provide a quality education for the children in this state. I will gladly pay a higher amount of taxes to ensure that babies that require ventilators to survive have an opportunity to do so. The cuts that have been proposed are atrocious, and yet, even if we accept every single one of those cuts, this budget is still $3 billion in the hole. We have to find revenue. And as someone who earns a good living, a decent living, I'm happy to step up and pay a fair share so that we can provide essential services. It is not being punished, Ladies and Gentlemen. It's being asked to contribute because we can. Vote 'yes'."

"Representative Jesiel."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Would you permit me to read a statement that would answer that in its entirety?"

"Individuals owning sole proprietorships or partnerships in Illinois pay the individual income tax on income earned from their business. That relates to sole proprietorships and partnerships. Individuals owning limited liability companies or S corporations pay the individual income tax on their share of the business income, unless the business elects to pay the corporate income tax rate. Thus, those types of businesses, LLCs and S corporations, can choose to pay the corporate income tax rate if it is more advantageous to their owners."

"If it relates to the corporate income tax, that's not covered by this Amendment."

"Yeah. I don't know the answer to that question."

Speaker Turner: "Chair recognizes Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sorry, to the Bill. Just a couple quick points and actually, one of the previous Representatives, Mr. Martwick, said much of what I was going to say. So I'll say to folks, if you want to vote against progressivity in taxing, there's… that's a personal philosophy and something that you can do, but there are two reasons that have been stated in this debate that should not be reasons to vote against this Bill. One is the idea of this concept of out-migration, that the great liberal bastion of thought, the Wall Street Journal, did a study in 2011 on what happened in New Jersey. And what happened in New Jersey was there were actually more millionaires the next year after they… or in the next decade after they passed a millionaire surcharge, not less. Somebody noted that small businesses could potentially be hit by this. Well, there are quirks in our tax laws that allow people like hedge fund managers or really wealthy attorneys to be considered small businesses, and those are primarily the folks who are making over a million dollars a year and filing as individuals. I just want to note, finally, one of the previous speakers, who I hope will also be sponsoring the kind of tax revenue that he talked about as a rebuttal to the Speaker's Bill, noted that he wished he had been smart enough or creative enough to make a million dollars. And here's the challenge with that. I… I represent a very diverse district and in my district, we've been doing a tour of our schools. And in a couple of my schools, I found that children were using history books in 09900052.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 which Bill Clinton was still president. Now, for some people, that may be a joyous throwback, but for these children, it is a disservice. And what is important here is that these children could be millionaires. They could be working at 1871. They could invent the next Google, if they had the same access to technology and to great teachers and to investment that some of the folks who are sitting in 1871, which is in my district, have had access to. So what this Bill is ultimately about is, are we willing to make the investments to make sure that any child, regardless of where they're born, because this money would go to education, has the same access to opportunity and the same chance to be successful as the millionaires we'd be asking to take the privilege to pay a little bit more into our system? That's all this is about. This should be a bipartisan effort. This is a Bill that should pass overwhelmingly. I encourage an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can I ask you some questions? If the Sponsor will yield."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Are we expecting any other or any additional revenue- enhancement legislation outside of this?"

"Representative, I don't know of anybody that's planning anything along those lines today. What I’ve said publicly about the current deficit of the State of Illinois is that you cannot cut your way out of the deficit, that we need a balanced approach, cuts with additional revenue. And I stand ready to negotiate with the appropriate people to accomplish that goal." 09900052.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"And I stand ready to work with you and those… those people to help accomplish that goal. You know, some of our districts are not identical… a lot of our districts are not identical. It's not sort of your traditional Democratic district and I would… There are some individuals who make a million dollars in their business construct, but they're not necessarily millionaires. And I know we have this particular threshold, but it's a combined set of incomes, especially on the… the S corporation, as you highlighted, or the LLC. I guess my question, or my perplexity is, is this the answer, or is this a piecemeal answer? And where we're going to have this bipartisan discussion on a real comprehensive solution to funding education, to taking care of some of our debt, be it pension and our overall bills of vendors? I'm trying to really get to a comprehensive approach to how it is that we can sustain and grow new businesses here in this state so everyone gets an opportunity to work. I'm just not sure if this is the right answer, or should this be combined with a comprehensive reform effort, along with a comprehensive revenue-enhancement concept. And… and I think the Speaker… one of the guys across the aisle stated that, you know, this… this is good political options. It is, but it's not the answer. And it's really sort of a, you know, let's look at those guys because they're over a particular dollar amount, at least in the terms of what they generated in their respective company, but it's not the answer. And so, I'm sitting here scratching my head, a bit perplexed, again, on how it is that we get to really dealing with some of these hard questions of how we tax people, how we fund schools. 09900052.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 We're still funding schools based off of the property tax. So if you live in a place like Harvey, if you live on the certain parts of the South Side, certain parts of Rockford, certain parts of East St. Louis, certain parts of Decatur, on the southeast side of Springfield, property taxes is just not the answer in most of our regions. And this here, again, this piecemeal approach is quite perplexing because it's really not going to be a comprehensive answer to how it is that we fund education in this state. It's a real convenient approach. So again, I'm… I'm ready and willing to get to the big questions on how it is that we really fund schools across this state, how it is that we take care of our vulnerable citizens, and how it is that we put the ci… citizens that I want in my respective district to work or keep them working. I'm about incentives and job growth. And most of us who ran for office feel the same way. So again, you know, I'm listening to debate. I'm trying to figure this out. But I really wish that we can take the lead on a real and true and genuine approach to revenue, new revenue, and a… and comprehensive re… reform on how it is that we're going to take this state to the level that we all can be proud of. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Pritchard."

"Sponsor will yield."

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"My understanding would be that the answer would be no."

"Well, that would be a decision for future Legislatures as… as they do the budget making."

"Oh, well, again…"

"I… I can offer my intent right now that this would be in addition to what's being done today." 09900052.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"I would be prepared to review the Tax Code with a view towards revision and improvement."

"The answer is yes."

"Chair recognizes Representative Batinick."

"Sponsor will yield."

"I'm sorry. I lost the… the question."

"I'm as concerned as you are concerning the general condition of the state, and I'm prepared to work with anybody to improve the fiscal condition of the State of Illinois and to make Illinois more attractive for people to move here, for people to start businesses. I don't have a study in front of me that would be responsive to your question, but am I concerned about job loss, businesses leaving, people leaving, yes. The answer is yes. At the same time, I would argue that, here in Illinois, we're simply… with this Resolution, we're simply asking those that have done well in life to help our educational system."

"Members, we have over 10 additional people seeking recognition on this issue. I would just like to remind you all to please try to keep your comments as brief as 09900052.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 possible. I'm trying to avoid going to the timer. Representative Will Davis is recognized." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Instead of asking questions, I'll just speak to the Bill… or to the Resolution Constitutional Amendment. It's interesting when I hear, like the previous speaker talk about, is there an analysis of how many jobs or people that are going to leave the state because if a… something like this passes? Well, the irony, Sir, is that I've been asking all the new agency directors how many people and how many jobs are we going to lose because of the way we're cutting programs and services. I understand that this is a high-level conversation for many of you ‘cause you're talking about millionaires, people who a lot of… make a lot of money who are, you know, st… have stature and what have you. But what about the little folks who are going to lose, because when we cut services, we're actually eliminating jobs at the non-profit level. Those are the people that help sustain small businesses here in the State of Illinois because they're willing to take their hard-earned dollars and go to the local stores, go to the local businesses and spend there. But what about those folks? So as much as we're trying to have this high-level conversation, I think the millionaires in the State of Illinois make up a few percent of the people here. What about everybody else who is being affected by what we are cutting? I don't hear any of you talking about that. What about those folks? Now, as far as education is concerned, I'm fortunate enough to be the Appropriations Chair, so I'm happy to see that there's an effort to try to put more money into education. Any other 09900052.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 effort that we put forward is met with opposition, is met with, well, we can't do that. You run the numbers. You look at the last column. If I lose, I'm off, regardless of how the overall system is being negatively impacted by the fact that we are not putting enough money in it. So for those of you, like my colleague said, when you want to have a real conversation, let's have that conversation about what we need to be putting into our system. Everybody will admit we can't cut our way out of our current budget situation right now. We have to add some revenue somewhere. Now, maybe you don't like this, that's fine. But the question is, what do you like? Tell me. Show me what do you like in terms of revenue so we can have that dialogue. You're scared of millionaires leaving the state? I would argue, because I'm fortunate enough to know a few of them who have said, you know what, I want to contribute more because I want to help our educational system. I want to provide more resources here in the State of Illinois. And I'm not leaving. But I think what the Gentleman said is important. What he said is important. People are leaving the state not because of things like this. They're leaving the state bec… for a whole host of reasons. I know people who will leave the state because it's just too damn cold here. What about that? Can we legislate the weather? Absolutely not. So there are people leaving the state for a host of reasons. This, in and of itself, does not drive people out of the State of Illinois. But I would argue that some of the decisions and some of the things that are being contemplated now, under this administration, those are the things that’ll drive people out of this state. Believe it or 09900052.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 not, those will drive people out of this state. When people can't get access to resources and services, they might go to another state, where they can provide services for their autistic children, where they can provide resources if they are on Medicaid. Those are the things that are driving people out of the state, not something like this or that. Ladies and Gentlemen, fine. I'm going to vote for this because I'm never afraid of adding revenue to our conversation here in the State of Illinois, corporate loopholes, taxes, whatever the case may be. And the irony is that when we passed the income tax increase guess who had to pay that? I did ‘cause I'm a taxpayer in the State of Illinois as well. Now, maybe some of you are scared of this millionaires tax… no, I won't go there. I won't go there. Ladies and Gentlemen, let's support this. Education is important. I think any of you will agree that we need more money for our children here in the State of Illinois. Numbers will show that school districts are being disproportionately impacted because there's not enough money. If you look in terms of their local communities and their local wealth, it's not there. Had a discussion today in our Education Oversight Committee. A couple of superintendents said, well, you know what, I don't like Senate Bill 1. But guess what? If there was a hold-harmless provision, I could be okay with Senate Bill 1. The only way we get there is with more money. Please vote 'yes'."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Tryon."

"Speaker will yield." 09900052.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Mr. Tryon, I'm not certain about my answer, and… and I will simply say to you that on the immediate question and the answer, that that would be something that would be determined through subsequent legislation."

"Mr. Tryon, I'll just take your word for it."

"Representative Keith Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield." Wheeler, K.: "Well, first, let me thank Representative Jesiel for asking some very important questions regarding how S corporations, like many small businesses throughout the state have, actually passed through their business income. Whether that business income has actually been realized or it's on paper, that shows up on a tax return and that could be subject 09900052.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 to the tax we're talking about today. People in my district sent me here to represent them, to help facilitate job creation in our state because they want to see a lot of the neighbors put back to work that still are struggling to make ends meet. And just as importantly, those small businesses in my district and throughout this state are looking for help from this Body to defend them and prevent actions like today's from further deteriorating the business conditions, the business climate in our state. And Mr. Speaker, don't we hope that each new small business in Illinois starts… that starts here is… is successful and creates jobs for our neighbors here in the state?"

"I think we all agree on that." Wheeler, K.: "I agree as well. Wouldn't you agree that… that our state's fastest growing small businesses might ultimately, as they grow and they become more successful, be affected by the income tax you're suggesting?"

"Well, they could be affected by the Tax Code in general, and subsequent changes in the Tax Code." Wheeler, K.: "Well, I agree, but this is a change in that Tax Code, effectively. And to many of them it's going to appear, in my opinion, to be a negative change in the Tax Code. Much has been said in discussion so far about extracting a little bit more from those who are already successful in our state, because they've been successful. And they may want to contribute more to… to our education system and to our government as a whole. But I'm looking at that potential small business owner, Mr. Speaker, who is looking at Illinois as a place that they might start their business. And they have 09900052.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 visions and aspirations of being hugely successful and putting a lot of great people to work here in this state. But they're going to look at other states as well because that's only appropriate for someone who's going to make that kind of an investment. For that… for that entrepreneur, aren't we telling them right up front that as soon as you get to the point where you're going to start realizing some of that return on your hard work and your investment, that we're going to take a little bit more than maybe another state would, or than the state currently does right now?"

"I would refer back to the comments by Representative Martwick, where he explained that some of our neighboring states already do that. It's already in place and…" Wheeler, K.: "I under… But those states might not have the same cost of doing business as Illinois… as we already have. I know that, in my small business experience as a part of a family business and my own business, we face some pretty substantial workers’ compensation costs, we face high property taxes. And frankly, this is an expensive place to do business if you ever find yourself in the litigation system. So what we're doing in effect is we're telling those small businesses, yep, we're doing one more thing in Illinois to make this place a more expensive place to do business and for you to gain your investment back and realize an actual profit at the end of your total investment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. We're fortunate in my district to have an entrepreneur who started his business in his garage, like one of those classic success stories. His business took off, he started hiring people, hiring his neighbors, expanding his 09900052.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 operations. And he had invested a lot of his profits back into his business, continued hiring, and then invested substantially in his community. These are the kinds of success stories that create jobs for real families in our state. And they're actually what I think Illine… Illinois needs a whole lot more of. But with the high cost of doing business in Illinois, it is safe to say that further investment in our state has been in… put in jeopardy. Adding this massive… this measure to increase taxes on his profits, through his personal income tax return, will likely confirm that further investment will completely cease. In fact, it is likely that that very smart, small business person is going to take a look at his overall expenses and compare what it would cost to move his operations to another state and move all those workers that are currently hired by his operations with him. We're talking about hundreds of families being affected by this measure being on top of all the other many measures that we already have in our state that make it expensive. In my district and throughout this state, it's effectively going to be a tax that will ultimately hit your middle-class neighbors when their job has a more likely situation of being moved out… to another state. So let's be clear. While this is being presented as a millionaire’s tax on the very wealthy, who might be driving a Maserati or the Rolls Royce, this Constitutional Amendment will ultimately hurt your middle- class neighbor who probably drives a minivan with their kids to soccer practice, left wondering why their job left the State of Illinois. And that's up to us. I urge a 'no' vote. Thank you." 09900052.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Chair recognizes Representative Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, I thought long and hard about whether I was going to say anything today, and… and I want to thank the Speaker for calling this for a vote, because for the last year, I know what a couple of people on my side of the aisle and my colleagues have… have said about some of my positions. I was somewhat of a punching bag last year for, you know, telling people what I used to do before I came here. And… I'm trying… I, you know, I'm… I understand that, but I'm… you know, I'm not going to joke around today. I think that what… what people don't understand about me, and… and partly this… this may be because you know, I've… I'm also not the most social person in the General Assembly, I keep to myself in a lot of respects. But people, you know, what… what I've heard about my district and what I've heard about me in… in the three years I've been here is, he represents a much of billion… millionaires, billionaires. He's… he's out of touch with what's really going on. And… and I would just ask, I'm… I'm about to take a very tough vote. I know it, and… and I've thought about it long and hard, and in a lot of ways I've been very quiet this year knowing this vote at some point was going to come up. And… and I would just ask my colleagues, on… on both sides, to walk in my shoes, see… see my perspective. Because it was at dinner last night, actually, I was telling some… some people that my kids go to a failing school. My kids' school is… is two-thirds on the federal hot lunch program, two-thirds English as a second language. Both my kids are fluent in Spanish, they've been taking Spanish since they were in Kindergarten because… because the kids in 09900052.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 their… in their school are speaking Spanish, and… and the optimum way to… to bridge that gap isn't to immerse people in English but it's actually to have Spanish kids speaking Spanish and learning English, and having English kids learning Spanish. And so we… we voluntarily went to that school, with my parents saying, don't go to that school. You should… you should go somewhere else where you don't have those challenges. But… but we didn't do that. At my kids' school, there… there's a lot of funding that… that goes into the school. And it still… it's failed to make adeq… adequate yearly progress. I think, five years in a row now the Federal Government has come in to take over our school. My wife and I go to conferences, I'll never forget this. When my… when my son was in first grade, he'd come home complaining that some kids got an extra bag of pretzels at lunch or during snack time, and he didn't understand why, why the… why the teacher didn't like him. And so my wife and I, like fools, go to the teacher saying, why… why do you do this? And she said, you know, some kids, it's all they get to eat all day. And so I give them another bag of pretzels. And if you could just tell Dylan that, I'd appreciate it. And so, that's who I represent. That's actually a town I live in. And… and it's easy to… to categor… categorize the North Shore as all one kind of people. And… and to a larger extent, I'm… I'm not going to say there aren't wealthy people there. There are althy… also wealthy people there who have start up educational foundation programs that take kids in high risk schools. They… they got their own classrooms there to keep these kids safe ‘cause they want to learn but because they want to learn, they get 09900052.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 harassed, they get beat up. And so these programs are coming to the schools, have their own classrooms, and these… and they take these kids and they see them from Kindergarten all the way through college. And they're going to Princeton and Duke and Yale. So yes, I'm… I'm going to take a hard vote today. And it's… it's not for headlines and it's not for anything. But I just ask that people understand that with the vote I'm taking is to represent the people of my district, the way I see it. And… and so, I just ask that… that people recognize that. Like I said, I'm not here to joke today. I… I'm not here to cause a ruckus. I just want people to understand who I represent, where I come from, and why I'm doing what I'm doing. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for two very quick questions? And then I'll speak to the Bill."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I would just want to clarify back becau… I'm a little bit confused by the dialogue. Is… is this a House Bill today, or a House Bill for a ballot initiative?"

"Well, first of all, the… we normally refer to these as Resolutions, not a… not a Bill."

"So it's not a Bill at all?"

"It's not a Bill."

"It's… it's just a Resolution?"

"Just a Resolution. Which would put this question on the ballot in November of 2016."

"I thought that's what we were talking about, but I got a little caught up into some of the dialogue that described it as more than a House Resolution for a ballot initiative. 09900052.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 The second thing I wanted to clarify is, to make sure that you were aware. Were you aware, that in the last election in November, that voters in Illinois by a margin of about 64 percent voted in favor of this initiative?"

"Yes… yes, I am."

"Thank you so much. To the Bill. I've listened to a lot of discussion on this initiative, and I really appreciate all that has been put forward. I want to… I highlight a couple of things that I've learned about this type of an initiative. As my colleagues continue to discuss, they say that businesses will leave Illinois. And certainly one of our colleagues have already identified states with higher tax rates than ours. But many of the states that they quote about leaving to go to have lower wages, have destroyed their labor unions, and they describe those as better business climates than Illinois. I reject that idea. I believe that Illinois businesses that are partners with people in this state support fair wages for their workers and do not leave the state because they have to pay their fair share. I want to also highlight something else that I thought was interesting in this debate, and these are not my words, so I'll just read them as they are written. The legendary investor Warren Buffett said, and remember, he's worth $63.3 billion, and the second richest man in America. He said, there's a class warfare. It's all right, but it is class warfare. The rich class that's making the war, and we're winning. Those are his words. When we stand in this chamber and vote to increase fees, fines on poor people in this state with very little dialogue, and on the other hand, spend hours about voting on a Resolution to put a ballot initiative to 09900052.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 ask the voters whether people should pay their fair share with a million dollars or more, that seems a little out of step with the majority of the state. I'll also argue that I hope at some point in my experience here that this august Body would consider to look at the full measure of tax reform and look at a progressive or graduated income tax structure, so that everyone actually pays their fair share based on their ability to contribute, based on their income. And I'll say this in closing, 'cause I promised to be brief. The General Assembly was fully aware that by allowing the current or former income tax to roll back, we would be creating a deficit that was even twice that of what we had, prior to it rolling back. We knew that when we allowed the income tax to expire. So for us to have a conversation as if revenue should not be on the table, I believe that is indeed irresponsible, because we do know that our schools cannot function without adequate revenue. And so, to suggest that millionaires should not pay their fair share, but those who make less than even 10… a tenth of what a millionaire makes in a year, in a year, should bear the burden of this. And if you look for a second in small research circles, you'll find that those who benefited the most from the income tax rollback certainly is not the 97 percent of the state. And so, we are responsible for where we currently are, and I include myself in this discussion, because I am in this Body. We are responsible, and we should do the responsible thing about putting this on the ballot, and so many other measures that really deal with revenue, including a serious discussion about graduated income tax as opposed to flat. Thank you so much." 09900052.docx 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Chair recognizes Representative Kay."

"Speaker will yield."

"You had it… you had the program?"

"I don't recall it."

"I am sure it was."

"Thank you."

"Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Kay, I think your question answers itself. The more taxpayers, the better. In the case of this Resolution, we're simply saying that certain people in this state have been very fortunate, and we would… we want to ask them to give more to the educational system."

"I don't understand your question."

"We… we were doing what we were able to do, and… is your question why didn't I offer this in 1997?"

"I don't have an answer for that question."

"The answer is no."

"As I stated in my initial remarks, it… it simply says that for those Illinois taxpayers who file an income tax return where they declare over $1 million in adjos… adjusted gross income, that they'll be called upon to pay a 3 percent 09900052.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 surcharge on the income over a million dollars. And the money would be distributed to the local school districts."

"I didn't know that."

"I… I didn't know that either."

"The answer is no."

"I wouldn't have an answer today, Mr. Kay."

"No, I didn't."

"No." 09900052.docx 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"I'll take your word for it."

"Went where?"

"Oh."

"I'm not certain."

"As I said earlier, our purpose… our request is that those that have done well in Illinois contribute a little more to the educational system." 09900052.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Could I simply say that my view of America is that America offers every American an opportunity to work, get a job, provide for themselves, provide for their family. That's the only offer that comes to Americans from this country. But it's a lot better than countries…"

"…all over the world. And we should be very thankful."

"Could you say it again, please?"

"Mr. Kay, I'm reluctant to use the word 'entitled'. It's just a word that I'm not anxious to use."

"I would simply say, again, that in this country, there's a basic offer. If you work, work hard, you're going to get ahead."

"I think my answer is no. I didn't completely hear everything you said…"

"…but I… I think my answer is no."

"Representative Lang in the Chair. Representative Hammond is recognized."

"Representative Sente."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The comment was made by a respected peer that this tax is a tax on success. Respectively, income tax, in general, can always be considered a tax on success because the tax is based on how much we earn. As our income rises, we do pay more to the state. I am a small business owner, and I do care passionately about the businesses in Illinois staying here. By the way, as a small business owner, I was organized as a C Corp. So, let's keep in mind that everyone is organized in different manners, and how they're taxed. But as an individual, and that's what this tax is, when I earn more, I accept that I will pay more. And as an individual without children, I also happily pay more to educating our kids. What is most important to me is that our hard earn… that my hard-earned money and my… and our taxpayers' hard-earned money is directed toward an effectively run government, toward funding priorities of great education, infrastructure, capital projects, and services to our most vulnerable citizens. I voted ‘no’ on this measure last year. Today, I'm changing my vote in support of this issue. My district in the State of Illinois, at large, answered my questions. Voters supported this measure by over 60 percent. The approximate $1 billion, per year, in additional revenue is direly needed by our state to fund education. The reality is the majority of government funding comes from tax revenue. The statement I hear from all types of constituents: wealthy, middle class, and those less fortunate, is that, I will pay taxes, just use my funds wisely. I will repeat. I will pay my taxes, just use my funds 09900052.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 wisely. So while I would prefer that the rollout of a comprehensive approach that details an economic development plan, a tax restructuring, a reduction of our expenses, and reductions of areas of waste, I'm resigned to the reality that our budget, again, may come to us in a step-by-step process. So I will take this first step because paying taxes towards the education of our children will have a powerful impetus to move our state forward. And we need to make bold change, and move our state forward. Thank you."

"Mr. Bradley."

"The young man… to the Bill. The young man sitting in my seat when my name was called is Jackson Bradley. It's one of my children. Why is it that the education of my child, and the children I represent, isn't as of much value of other children in this state? Talk about tying people to the State of Illinois. We tie people here by poverty all the time. Mike Smith tried to do this years ago, and he said, to whom much is given, much is expected. We can do this. There's lots of people in Illinois that’ll want to do this because they want to give other people the opportunities that they didn't have. Because they want to come up with a better system. I hear unsourced data, I hear unreferenced statistics. There's as many statistics on one side as the other, and we can quote those all day. Act as if AGI is some term that nobody knows what it is or you can't calculate it. There's probably not a term in the Internal Revenue Code that is more certain than AGI. Don't act like that's something that just got pulled out of the sky, that you don't know what it is. We don't have progressivity in the Illinois Tax Code because it's not 09900052.docx 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 allowed by the Constitution. So all we're doing… all the Speaker is doing is giving this to the people, to let them decide if they want progressivity in the Tax Code. Let’s decide if we're going to take a step to valuing our children the same. Is that too much to ask? Is that too much to ask to… of the people of the State of Illinois? Is that too much to ask of this Body? Is that too much to ask that we take a step towards giving Jackson Bradley as many opportunities, and the children that he goes to school with, as many opportunities as other parts of the state. In closing, we heard these same arguments in 2011, when the previous tax increase was passed. And in 2011, we heard, wealth is going to leave the state, people are going to migrate the state. In 2011, there were 14,667 millionaires… millionaires in the State of Illinois. There were two million people attending public schools in the State of Illinois. In 2012, the year after the tax increase, when it was predicted that the millionaires would flee the state, there were still two million children in the Illinois public school districts, and there were 18,000,826 millionaires. We need help. We need help. Let's give this to the voters and decide where we're going to get it. Vote 'aye'."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Your request is acknowledged, Sir. Representative Davis." 09900052.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really hate to ask, but could I ask the Speaker a couple of questions, please?"

"Speaker Madigan yields." Davis, M.: "Speaker Madigan, I hope I'm not being redundant, but my understanding is, this three percent tax will increase per-pupil expenditure by over $500 per pupil. Is that correct? Income?"

"Representative, a… a revised number would indicate that there would be $489 per student in the first year." Davis, M.: "Okay. Well, I've looked at other numbers from other sources and it has gone from 500 to 560 dollars per pupil. But I guess that would vary, depending on the number of students we have at the time. My second question, Sir, is, will the amount that is collected go directly to the school fund, the common school fund, or will it go to the general appropriation, and then to the school fund?"

"That's a matter that would be decided by subsequent legislation." Davis, M.: "Well, Mr. Speaker, to…"

"But the constitutional language would say that it goes to the school district." Davis, M.: "The school district. Okay. So that should help us to alieve any fears we might have that came about because of the lottery dollars that we were told would go directly to the school fund, or we thought. For example, in a few of my districts, I got a report yesterday, one of my precinct… not in the precincts, I'm sorry, a Ward, they had spent $29 million on the lottery in Illinois in less than a year. And another one had spent $26 million, and I know they’re 09900052.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 continuing to play to that degree believing these dollars are going toward education, and I… perhaps, in a roundabout way they are. So I want to hopefully be able to say to them, this really will be for our school children, divided on a per pupil basis. And I do have millionaires in my district, and none have opposed this House Joint Resolution for a Constitutional Amendment. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. As a former educator, some millionaires living in my district became millionaires because of the education they received. And once we receive a very valuable education, it is incumbent upon us to want to give back. And if our giving back does not appear to be enough, then we have to do what the law requires, and hopefully this time it will require a three percent tax on those who earn a million or more. As we approach the end of this Session, I believe this Resolution will be one of the best pieces of legislation that we will pass because it will not discriminate in our approach to educating our children. It won't discriminate based upon whether these children live in Chicago, in Cook County, or whether they live in Coles County. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Speaker Madigan to close."

"Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we've have a full, informative debate about this Resolution. I want to thank all of those who participated in the debate. I'm sure that the… those participating were very, very helpful to those who were listening to the debate. In closing, I'll be very simple. This simply says that for those that have done well in this state, we're going to ask you to provide a little more help for the educational systems in the state so 09900052.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 that our future children can do better in life. I recommend an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the… Constitutional Amendment… Excuse me. Mr. Demmer has asked for a verification, so Members will be in their chairs. Staff will retire to the rear of the chamber. Those in favor of the Speaker's Constitutional Amendment will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Jesiel, McAuliffe. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 68 voting 'yes', 47 voting 'no'. Speaker Madigan."

"Request Postpone Consideration."

"And the… the Constitutional Amendment will be put on the pon… Order of Postpone Consideration. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"Page… on page 3 of the Calendar, we have House Bill 1. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would simply recommend that we adopt Amendments 2 and 3, and we can have a debate when we decide to do Third Reading."

"The Gentleman moves that the House adopt Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 1. All in favor say 'aye'; all 09900052.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Lang."

"Same request, Mr. Speaker."

"Gentleman moves that the House adopt Floor Amendment #3 to House Bill #1. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Going to page 9 of the Calendar, on Senate Bills on Third Reading. Continuing down the list, we have Senate Bill 1421, Representative Gordon-Booth. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1422, Representative Sullivan. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sullivan."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall Senate Bill 1422 pass?’ All in favor vote ‘aye’; all opposed vote ‘nay’. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative 09900052.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 Guzzardi, McAsey. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 103 voting ‘yes’, 12 voting ‘no’, 0 voting ‘present’, Senate Bill 1422, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"Senate Bill 1523, Leader Turner. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Turner."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1523 is a Secretary of State initiative that clarifies and specifies what is considered insufficient library grants, and the procedure for decreasing or increasing funds proportionally per capita. Senate Bill 1523 changes the Illinois Library Systems by… Act by the following: allowing grant funding awarded to one library system to be expanded on the provision of services to members of other library systems, if the expenditure is included in the library system's plan and approved by the State Librarian. Number two, changing the scope of the term 'area served' from this Act to making and… and expending annual library systems grants, and clarifies that funding must be either increased or decreased proportionally so that libraries receive the same amount per capita if the money appropriated fails to meet the 1.25 capita amount and the additional 19 cent per capita amount. I ask for a favorable vote."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor will yield."

"One second, Representative. So… so currently, the Secretary of State serves as the State Librarian here…”

"…and distributes the following grants: the Annual Equalization, the Library System, and the per capita grants to public libraries, as well as the planning and construction. The first point that I meant… that I… I mentioned would allow the grant funding awarded to one library system to be expended on the provision of services to members of other library systems, if the expenditure is included in the library system's plan and approved by the State Librarian."

"Sure. So Library System grants are made, upon application, to each library system approved by the State Librarian on the following basis: if the amounts are… the sum of the 1.46 per capita of the population of the area served plus the sum of 50… $50.75 per square mile or the fraction of 09900052.docx 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 the area served. If the amounts are different than the 1.46 formula, then the area in per capita funding shall be proportionately reduced or increased accordingly. Additional funds may be appropriated and shall be distributed on the same propertion… proportional per capita and per square mile basis as mentioned. And per capita area funding for a multiple library system, 500 thousand or more population, shall be approached… apportioned with 25 percent of the funding granted to multitype and 75 percent of the funding granted to the public library system. Does that answer your question?"

"Okay."

"I can get that answer to you, Representative."

"I don't have it in front of me."

"Yes, Sir."

"The Secretary of State and the Illinois Library Association are a… are proponents to this… to this Bill. And it… I'm confused. I'm sorry. What's your question?"

"Okay."

"That's correct, Representative."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brady. Please take the record. On this question, there are 117 voting 'yes', none voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative McDermed."

Speaker Lang: "The record will reflect your intention, Representative. Senate Bill 1445, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker. You still look really, really good. Okay. You look okay. Oh… So, I mean. Senate Bill 1445. The Amendment becomes the Bill and reflects discussion that I had. And intent of the amend Bill… amended Bill is to provide ComEd and Ameren utility addit… additional flexibility beyond the current law. Three exceptions to return to resident… three exceptions to return to residential or small commercial customer the same alternative retail supplier, and which is called an ARES, for electric supply service after that ARES customer was switched to ComEd, to Ameren bundled traffic service. The Bill will improve customer choice of electric supply service and competitive 09900052.docx 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 retail electric market. It… it passed out of the Senate unanimously. I'll take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Brady, Evans. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1446, Representative McDermed. Please read the Bill."

"Representative McDermed."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Crespo, Dunkin. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', and 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1448, Mr. Welch. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Welch." 09900052.docx 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 1448 permits the Secretary of State's Office to develop a Web-based system for the submission of the statement of economic interests, which we are all required to do. Currently, only county clerks have this authority. And if you have come from that level, you realize that… that is a very simple and efficient way of filing your statements of economic interests. There is no cost to the state beyond the normal appropriation. There’s no opposition to this Bill. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Is it… Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So, Chris, is… does the Secretary of State want this?"

"Yes. This is their initiative."

"So, have they… are they going to develop a system for doing this?"

"Yes."

"And what if you don't want to use the online system?"

"It's my understanding that this is going to be permissive."

"Permissive?"

"You… you can still file it on paper and do it the old archaic way, which takes more time and staff power from them. But you could also do it the easier way, electronically."

"Okay. Thank you, Sir. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Drury, Dunkin, Gordon-Booth. Dunkin. Please take the record. On this 09900052.docx 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 question, there are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the sha… Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1467. Sorry. Senate Bill 1457, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank you, Speaker. You look mighty fine. So, Senate Bill 1457, the Amendment we added, added the State Fire's Marshal to the task force in order to include members outside academia and inside rescue services with the task force, creates Military Prior Learning Assessment Task Force, which will study and make recommendations on the best way to use Prior Learning Assessments to recognize military learning for academic credits, industry-recognized credentials, and college degrees. This is a phenomenal piece of legislation. I ask for its passage."

Speaker Lang: "Those in favor of the phenomenal piece of legislation will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Acevedo, Jackson, Leitch. Mr. Leitch. Please take the record. There are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1482, Mr. D'Amico. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. D'Amico."

"Mr. Sandack."

"The Sponsor yields, Sir."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Reis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1518, Representative Moeller. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Speaker. Senate Bill 1518 makes a pilot program permanent. The… the pilot program is one that allows 09900052.docx 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 for food waste to be comingled with landscape waste in three recycling facilities: one in Elgin, one in Stickney, and an additional one will be in Lake Bluff or… I'm sorry… Lake Villa area. Be happy to… sorry… Lake Bluff. Would be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Acevedo, Jesiel. Please take the record. On the question, there are 116 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1547, Mr. DeLuca. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. Senate Bill 1547 will provide important protections for survivors of domestic violence, sexual assault, and individuals with disabilities from being penalized for calling the police. Approximately 35 municipalities in Illinois have crime-free housing ordinances, which would allow penalties to be waged against victims of domestic violence and sexual assault due to repeated calls to police. We had adopted an Amendment earlier this week to address some of the concerns expressed in the committee from the rental property owners and the realtors. And the Amendment has now removed all of their opposition. And Senate Bill 1547 has over 80 proponents. Senate Bill 1547 will not prevent municipalities from using their ordinances to address underlying criminal behavior or 09900052.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 nuisance activity in their communities and does not prevent them from targeting the perpetrators, rather than the innocent victims. Senate Bill 1547 strikes a critical balance between the interests of cities in using their ordinances to address public safety concerns and the needs of landlords and tenants to be free from the potential harmful effects of ordinances that impose penalties based on calls to police. It will not prevent municipalities from imposing fees for services provided. It will only prohibit them from imposing penalties on the basis of 9-1-1 calls to report domestic violence or sexual assault. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is correct."

"That is correct."

"Well, there's about 35 municipalities that have an ordinance, that if they chose to enforce it, they could impose penalties for these folks making the calls."

"I'm sorry. Could you please repeat the question?"

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Mi… Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I, too, stand in full support of Senate Bill 1547. As the Sponsor has explained, he has removed all opposition with the Amendment. And I appreciate that, including the clarifying language. I did vote 'no' in committee. I stre… I… Because of the Amendment, I stand in strong support in order to protect domestic violence survivors and people with disabilities. To the Sponsor. Thank you very much for your hard work."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"No, they will not."

"No, it is not."

"Mr. Cabello. Then we won't ask you to speak. Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I want to first of all congratulate Mr. DeLuca for such a wonderful piece of legislation. This was already on my radar. As a former city council member, we talked about this. But more importantly, for people to really understand what this Bill would do, the basic problem is that many cities, including the City of Urbana, adopted ordinances that determine a rental property be a nuisance based on the number of police calls. It doesn't matter what the call is about. If a tenant calls the police more than a couple of times, the landlord can get in trouble with the city government. And one of the strategies these city ordinances do to address this, for repeated calls, is evicting tenants. A landlord who doesn't evict a tenant for creating the nuisance of repeated police visits to the property could be fined for not cooperating with city 09900052.docx 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 52nd Legislative Day 5/21/2015 officials to eliminate the nuisance. Senate Bill 1547 will only invalidate the portions of the municipal ordinance that punish landlords or tenants for the number of police calls. I hope and encourage our Members to vote 'yes' on this. This is good for Illinois, and it's certainly good for people who are living in housing complexes. It's a very good Bill to stop domestic violence, sexual assault. And I urge an 'aye' vote on this measure."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all vote… You were planning a big close, Sir? I'm sure we're all stay after we adjourn to listen. Have all voted who wish? Those in… those in favor of the… Mr. Clerk, take the record. There are 117 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 661, on the Order of Second Reading, Mr. McAuliffe. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"And now, leaving perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House stand adjourned 'til May… Friday, May 22 at the hour of 8:30 a.m. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned until Friday, May 22 at the hour of 8:30 a.m. Go Blackhawks."