Illinois House Floor Debate — July 9, 2015

"The hour of 9:30 having come and gone, the House of Representatives of the State of Illinois will come to order. Members and guests are asked to be in their seats, refrain from starting all laptop computers, silence all cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. We'll be led in prayer today by Reverend Bob Vanden Bosch who is with the Concerned Christian Americans in Chatham, Illinois. Reverend Vanden Bosch is the guest of Representative Poe. Reverend Vanden Bosch."

"We'll be led in the Pledge by Representative David Harris." Harris, D. - et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, 09900071.docx 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Speaker Riley: "Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie. Representative Brown, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you. Mr. Clerk, take the record. With 113 Members present, a quorum is established and we're ready to do the work of the people of the State of Illinois. Representative Costello, for what reason do you rise?"

"Yes, a point of personal privilege."

"State your point."

"I would ask the Body to join me in recognizing Carol Sente's birthday tomorrow. I think she's 30 tomorrow."

"Happy birthday. Representative Ford, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"State your point."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would like for us to collectively congratulate South Carolina for voting to take down the Confederate Flag on the State's Capitol. It was a bipartisan effort and hopefully the Governor signs the Bill and the Confederate Flag will be removed from the Capitol grounds of South Carolina. So, we should congratulate the Members of that Body for doing so. Thank you."

"Thank you. Representative Wallace, for what reason do you rise?" 09900071.docx 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for a point of personal privilege. I just want…"

"State your point."

"Thank you. I just want to recognize that my little guy, Isaiah, is here. He's available to Page and help you out in any way you'd like. So, let's give him another welcome."

"Representative Phelps, for what reason do you rise?"

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Make your point."

"Thank you. First off, Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to welcome back our dear friend, Monique Davis, back to the floor. Monique, we love you. Glad you're back. And second, Mr. Speaker, I'd… we don't give enough gratitude to our LIS support services. So, help me join today her birthday, Emily Deakin Harmony, happy birthday. We love you, too."

"Representative Costello, for what reason do you rise?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Make your point."

"I am surrounded by birthday girls. I did not realize it, but it's actually Representative Cloonen's 30th birthday today so."

"Happy birthday. On page 10, Order of Concurrences, we have House Bill 245, Representative Zalewski. The re… Out of the record. House Bill 2640, Representative Cassidy."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is… some of you may recall, we referred to it as the order of Cassidy, there were a handful of Bills from the Chicago Bar 09900071.docx 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 Association Condo Law Committee. This is… one of the questions asked of me was why weren't these combined? The Senate heard and combined two of the Bills that were passed unanimously into one Bill. I ask for your positive vote."

"Representative Cassidy moves that House Bill 2640… I'm sorry. Representative Reis. Out of the record. I'm sorry. You… you were retract… making your statement. Okay. All right, let's get going. House Bill 2640, Representative Cassidy moves to concur with House Bill 2640. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this record, with 110 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2640, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3389, Representative Bourne."

"Representative Bourne moves to concur with House Bill 3389. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this record, with 112 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', the House does concur with House Bill 3389. House Bill 3389, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3484, Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move to concur in Senate Amendment 1. This is a pension Bill that does nothing to 09900071.docx 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 benefits. I… these are requests from the state pension systems to allow them to do their jobs more efficiently and effectively."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"She indicates she will."

"So, one of the things that come to the attention of the General Assembly in recent months is that the pension systems don't have any ability to audit and to look at what is going… whether the information that they're getting from the employers about date of birth, length of service, pay, all those things is accurate, whether it be from a school district or from a state agency. So, this allows them to be able to go back in and… and double… and do some checking to make sure that the data that they're getting from the employers is accurate. It also does some very technical things like changes the def… for SURS. Clarifies the calculation of final rate of earnings for those who have service credit prior to September 1, 1941, adds to the definition of plan year and some of those kind of things."

"Thank… thank you."

"The House moves… I'm sorry. Representative Nekritz moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 to House Bill 3484. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted 09900071.docx 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, with 111 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', Amendment #1 to House Bill 3484, the House hereby concurs. And House Bill 3484, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3593, Representative Ives."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Ken Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Representative, we discussed this legislation several weeks ago. I am committed to trying to work with you to make it a significant Bill that will impact some of the problems that you're trying to address specifically in your district that is not going on in other districts across the state. I recognize the time and attention that you… the media has discussed with this, but I would ask if you can indulge me by taking it out of the record and keeping your commitment to having discussions over the summer and putting this Bill in the context… in the proper context other than really having punitive measures towards other community college systems across the state. Are you willing to do that?"

"Representative…"

"Sure."

"And I certainly appreciate your level of concern and due diligence. What I'm simply trying to do… I know I didn't participate in any discussion as the chairman… Appropriations for Higher Education. This issue is not on deaf ears. Certainly in the context of myself and others… of the other 19 Members of the Appropriations for Higher Education Committee. This is a concern that has gotten all of our attention and we want to do it the right way without penalizing or being punitive to other community college systems that are functioning successfully. So, I did not participate and I don't know how many Members here participated in the Senate hearings or discussions, but I wasn't privy to those unfortunately. Again, I would like to work with you, Representative. I'm not sure how long we're going to be here, whether we need to have formal hearings or not, but what I want to do is to get to a successful resolve that addresses this issue succinctly without having the community college affect… teachers, board of trustees 09900071.docx 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 association be against this. I want to work with you to help make sure that the… that the Illinois Community College Board is successfully in compliance in working with you on this as well. Because ultimately, the trustees are the true Governors or provide the true governance over all of these community colleges. And so, I truly and genuinely want to work with you, Representative. I would like, again, for you to take this out of the record, if you will, and so we can sit down and come up with a substantiated strategy to make sure that the College of DuPage does not run across this level of issue or concern in the future and possibly other community colleges. So, are you willing to give me a bit of consideration to take this out of the record and let's have time to sit down, to come up with a stronger, less punitive resolve for all the community colleges? Are you willing to do that, Representative?"

"Sure."

“Right.”

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"Representative, I want to work with you. I want to help get to the issue that your specific… you're one of 48 community colleges, one college is dealing with or has dealt with. If you can, this is my third time and I say this respectfully, if you can pull this out of the record, Representative, so we can work together in short order… I committed to you before, we didn't do it. I… you know, I know this is burning for you and your one specific college, but I want to work with you in earnest. Can you… will you pull this 09900071.docx 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 out of the record until we can come up with a… an overall comprehensive approach. This is not a delayed stall tactic, by no means. I want to… I genuinely and sincerely would like to work with you, Representative. Are you willing…"

"…to do that?"

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

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"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, I've been here 13 years now and I've had the opportunity to work with a number of colleagues, both current and some who are no longer here, and never have I had a flat-out no… you don't want to work with another colleague… irrespectable of what side of the aisle we're on… on an issue of this level of high significance. All of us have community colleges in our respective districts that we either work with that we respect and that we want to see have the most impressive educational experience on every student. We want to make sure that every single college board of trustees is endowed with the ability to govern. We don't what to have anything to do with any community college or university for that matter that is going to derelict his or her responsibilities financially, academically or governance-wise at any level. Representative, I simply tried to ask you several times if we can work together to make this thing correct. As the chair of Appropriation… this is my fourth year, Representative. I chair Appropriations for Higher Education. I work with community colleges. I work with state universities. I work with the Illinois Community College Trustees Association. I work with the Illinois Community College Board. Representative, I'm not some johnny come lately or willy- nilly. You have a number of individuals who want to see the community college system successful, but you cannot ramrod legislation down the throats of 48 colleges across the State of Illinois without working out something with other colleagues and Members here. So, I'm perplexed of why it is that you want to allow this Bill to marinate with some further 09900071.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 evaluation, assessment and intelligence in a different perspective that can only add to the Bill. So, this… for some reason in my 13 years, this is a problem where you don't want to work with colleague who want to help you out with your one specific college, one out of 48 community colleges, and you're saying no. Ladies and Gentlemen, I hope everyone is paying attention. This is not a good Bill. It is not soup yet. For some reason, you know, the sense of urgency or the arrogance of this legislation moving forward without even considering working with your colleagues over here, not the Senate, over here in this chamber to get some clarity, to come to some successful conclusion. And the last time we discussed this you, Representative Ives, you promised that you would hold hearings, that you would work with us and so, now, you have this Bill up here and you're reneging. Now, here's one thing in my… in my conclusion."

"Ex… Yeah. Would you bring your comments to a close? We have five other speakers."

"Every Member here understands pulling things out of the record so work with Members, not lobbying groups, not associations, but with Members to help shape the Bill, in sincerity, in earnest. But for some reason, my colleague across the aisle simply is not having it. She wants to have this Bill… she wants to have it her way or the highway. I would encourage a strong 'no' on this vote. This Bill is not ready. I want to get to a resolution, but also want to work with someone who is sincere about coming… crafting legislation that makes sense for every community college, Representative. So, you know, I'm taken aback of how it is 09900071.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 and why it is that you want to go against what you stated on this House Floor, what you stated in committee and what you committed to Members that now, all of a sudden, all bets are off. You're going to do what you want to do because you can. And I would encourage Members to provide a strong 'no' on this legislation."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. To the Bill. We have discussed and debated this legislation in the past and it was defeated as it should have been. In my area, I have the Illinois Valley Community College. I attended there. My family has attended there. It is a tremendous asset… one of the greatest assets in the Illinois Valley area. Our community college system is just that. The way I feel about mine… there are 48 other community colleges that provide a brighter future for ourselves, for those continuing on in working, for being… those being retrained, for new students it gives opportunities that are affordable. And they are run by local boards of trustees who are elected locally. A lot of people in here have said that they believe in… in keeping government local. That is truly where it's at the local level. At the College of DuPage, some things happened which should not happen anywhere. They had a president who was smarter than his board of trustees and the local elect… electoring bodies eliminated those trustees. They took care of that problem as it should be taken care of at the local level. There are some good things that were brought about from hearings, maybe some changes that we can make, but the Senate Sponsor and the House Sponsor had said they will hold hearings 09900071.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 and take a look at. Because those of us who care about our community colleges and our opportunities for growth and our ability to have local control want to make sure that a broad brush does not adversely impact us because of a community college president who not only did this at the College of DuPage but did the same thing at Harper College. So, we have a person that's changing the ability of us to have local control to attract the best and brightest people to come and lead our postsecondary institutions and provide opportunities for our families. There was an agreement that this Bill would not advance. It was brought up a few weeks ago and rightly so, it did not advance and should not advance. Those of you who voted 'no' voted 'no' properly. And I would ask you to stand by those 'no' votes, stand by your community colleges. Allow the hearings to take place this summer, as they're supposed to do. If we need changes made, let's bring them through the committee. Let's bring in the community colleges to actually look at what the new processes are and should be and let our local people and our local officials do their jobs. This Bill was defeated. It should be soundly defeated again. If you voted 'no' the last time, I ask you to re… to stick with that 'no' vote and do this for the community colleges and for our systems downstate that we are very proud of. We should not change things with a broad, sweeping brush. We should follow what the Sponsor's said they do. And I ask you to hold to your votes on the last round. Vote 'no' and defeat this legislation." 09900071.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"There are six Members requesting recognition. I would just ask that Members try to keep their remarks succinct. The Chair recognizes Leader Lang."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Thank you. Representative, we have voted on this before. That's correct?"

"And how many 'yes' votes did you get when we voted on this before?"

"And how many votes did you get on your previous Motion to Concur?"

"All right. And I've been told that the Senate Sponsor, who I believe is Mr. Connelly. Is that correct?"

"I've been told that he promised some people there would be summer hearings on this issue. Do you know anything about that?"

"Well, if you found out that he said that, would you be more inclined to hold this Bill for those summer hearings? After all, he's the Senate Sponsor."

"So, Representative, we're all familiar with the mess and the problems at the College of DuPage, which I'm quite sure is what brought this Bill about in your mind. But it's true, is it not, that community college boards in the state, whether it be the College of DuPage or other community college boards, are elected officials. Is that correct?"

"So, why would we not let elected officials do the job they were elected to do. Why would… why would we want to take over in Springfield the duties of another elected Body?"

"So, Representative, where does this start and stop? If we believe in local control then, why don't we allow local elected officials to do their job they're elected to do? Why would we decide in Springfield what's best for a local community when they have the ability under the law to make their own decisions?"

"Why do we want to make those decisions?"

"Yes."

"I don't think I did."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. Certainly, a lot of nasty stuff happened at College of DuPage. And 09900071.docx 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 certainly, the Lady is correct when she says that the severance package given does not seem reasonable. And certainly, we should be wary of that and certainly, we have asked for an audit there and we've done all the things we can do. But the question is, do we believe in local control or not believe in local control? It's not, in my opinion, appropriate to pick and choose. You can't say, well, I'm a proponent of local control on these 25 issues, but on these 25 issues I think the state should take it over because there was a problem at one community college or maybe you can find five community colleges. It does not seem appropriate to me for us to take over the responsibilities of another elected Body, otherwise let's just disband the local elected bodies that run community colleges and let's just do all community college policy from here. Some of the same people who will vote for this today are constantly standing on the House Floor talking about why is the state in the business of local government. Let the local governments do their job. And yet, some of you will vote for this Bill today. It seems to me we have a responsibility to have a philosophy that we work under. Maybe you're a proponent of no local control, then vote that way. Maybe you're a proponent of local control, then vote that way. But to go back and forth as the wind goes because there's one egregious problem at the College of DuPage is not good state public policy. This is an inappropriate Bill drafted because people have a real problem with what happened at COD… I do too… but this is not the appropriate response to this problem. I strongly recommend a 'no' vote."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Andersson." 09900071.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Representative Breen, you are listed, you know, as being on the record to speak, so why don't we do this. Why don't we go to the next Representative and you will be called very soon. The Chair recognizes Representative Kay."

"The Chair recognizes Leader Durkin."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

"Representative Dunkin, I don't recall your name being used in debate? I'm sorry. The Chair recognizes Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to yield my time to Representative Dunkin."

"Representative Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates she will."

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"Representative, I just got off the phone with State Senator Bill Cunningham."

"Do you want to know what that conversation was about?"

"First off, he says he's never sat down and talked with you on this legislation. He ran into you, passing you in the hallway. He said he had picked it up. That's the first thing. Now, here's what the… what the…"

"Representative, it’s obvious that he's in favor of the legislation 'cause he's one of the Chief Sponsors. Here is my issue, Representative. Now, I respect you and I respect every other Member here on this Body, but I don't misrepresent the truth of a Senator or a Member or anyone else for that matter. Now, he's also having a hearing on the 20th of this month, July 20, 10:30 a.m. at the Bilandic Building on this subject matter. And so, to have you…"

"Hold on, Representative."

"Hold… Representative…"

"Now, nothing down here is so collaborative to a point where we have to lie, flat-out misrepresent our communication."

"So, all I'm asking you to do, Representative. All…"

"…all I ask you to do, Representative, was to hold the Bill…"

"…until we have the hearing. Now, what is so tremendous about holding the Bill until we have the hearing…

"…so you can get another perspective."

"It's scheduled, Representative."

"It's scheduled for July 20 at 10:30 a.m.…"

"…at the Bilandic Building."

"Rep…" Ives: So, we're finding out about this now. I was… nobody told me about this…"

"We talked about this the last time, Representative."

"We talked about this the last time."

"Of course, he supports the Bill."

"Representative…"

"Representative…"

"Members. Members, Members."

"Members."

"Representative…"

"Representative Dunkin, we're getting into a diatribe. I'd like for you to ask your question, get an answer. We have more people to speak. Otherwise, we're just going back and forth."

"Representative… To the Bill. You know, I don't care how long you’ve been here in this chamber. I don't care your district demographic, what your background is, the type of people that you represent, whether you're a Democrat, whether you're a Republican. I can care less. But what I care about, what I know is valuable here, is your integrity and your credibility here in this chamber. When you say you've done something or you're going to do something, damn it, you'd better do it because all you have is your word. All you have is your credibility. And if a Member misrepresents the facts as simple as holding the Bill because there's going to be further hearings… official… officially scheduled hearings by the Chief Sponsor of the legislation, we should adhere and honor that. Now, I'm not going to belabor the point that I made earlier, but be it this Bill or any other Bill we have to not only come correct but we have to come with the level of integrity and deference of this Body whether we are on the record or not and that deals with the truth. So, again, Representative, I am befuddled and surprised that you are 09900071.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 moving this legislation in spite of what you talked about and agreed several weeks ago and what you know now that July 20 at 10:30 a.m. in the Bilandic Building that we will hold official Senate hearings that all of us can come to and participate in, but yet you're running the Bill anyway. It's wrong. It's disingenuous. And it's something that I'm not going to stand for and I'm not going to allow anyone to lie to me on this floor or off the floor off of simple legislation when all of us are trying to be a part of the solution. Shame on you."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Tryon."

"She indicates she will."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Bellock."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Representative Ives moves to concur with Senate Amendment #2 to House Bill 3593. Because of the effective… immediate effective date… There's a way to address the Chair. I'm sorry. Representative Ives to close."

"Representative Ives, you're closing so another Member really can't respond to you as you're closing so."

"Representative Ives moves to concur with Senate Amendment #3… I'm sorry. It's #2 to House Bill 3593. All those in favor vote 'aye'… Excuse me. This takes 71 votes, 71 votes. All those in favor state by voting 'aye'; all those opposed 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davis, Sims. Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this measure with 73 voting 'yea', 34 voting 'nay', 4 voting 'present', House Bill 3593 has reached its concurrence. And having reached the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative Golar, for what reason do you rise."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege." 09900071.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Make your point."

"First of all, I just want to welcome Representative Davis back. But I'm here speaking today on one of our other colleagues that have had some issues in regards to his health and that's Representative Mautino. On tougher days a friend or colleague would… would get him there, other times he tried to make it, but by the time his chemotherapy treatment had ended, he'd be too late for the day's Session. Over the last roughly six months, State Representative Frank Mautino, Democrat of Spring Valley, has battled esophageal cancer. He missed at most three days of Legislative Session. He says this week in the midst of preparing for surgery later this month related to his illness, Representative Mautino said Democrats could again count on him. Driving the 150 miles to the State Capitol to cast what's likely to be a critical vote. We would like to give a hand of applause to Representative Mautino in his… as he goes… Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you. And thank you to our courageous colleague. Representative Mautino."

"I have five minutes for a rebuttal. Hey, God bless you all. Thank you very much. Esther, that's wonderful. It's been a very interesting six months. And I want to thank you all for the… so, thought this would be easier. But thanks. So, I want to welcome back also Monique and say welcome also to Raymond Poe. The chamber has had a lot of… a lot of very difficult things to deal with this year. And to welcome back to all of my friends. Thank you for the prayer list. I have a Mezuzah, which I did not even know what it was. But it's a yep… yep from Rabbi Kalish. I've got copies of the Torah, the 09900071.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 Koran. I've got prayer lists. You guys are amazing. You are wonderful and great friends. And thank you."

"Thank you."

"Prognosis is good. Surgery's the 23rd. And so, I'll be out for a couple of weeks and a few weeks recovery after that. They expect to get it all, which is wonderful. So, I'll get to come back and join with you and hopefully, by the time that five or six weeks is done, you guys won't be here. Though you may, but I have a lot of… I've been in this chamber for 40 years, since my dad was here. It's an amazing chamber filled with people who are the greatest people of Illinois. And so, excuse me, thought I'd get through that a little better, but anyway. Thank you for everything. Thank you for your prayers. And you guys can get through this. We all can. Thanks."

Speaker Riley: "Thank you very much. The Chair recognizes Representative Ammons."

"Thank you. I rise for a point of personal privilege."

"State your point."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One, I want to just make a very brief comment and thank the gentle Lady who moved the Concurrence that we just passed. It's important that we acknowledge something on that Concurrence is that there has been an effort to review the salaries of the Governor's administrative staff and it has been denied. And that is a good example as to why we must build transparency in the process. And secondly, I ask my colleagues to stand with us to send condolences to Senator Mattie Hunter and her family for her two nephews who were killed over the July 4th weekend 09900071.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 visiting the City of Chicago. An issue that none of us want to experience and certainly, as a mother, sending my child to visit relatives, heartbroken over the loss of those two young men. So, we want to send our condolences to Senator Mattie Hunter and her family."

Speaker Riley: "Thank you very much. The Chair recognizes Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, rise to commend my colleague Representative Mautino for his effort to continue to be a part of the Democratic team in getting the work of the people done. I want to say to each and every one of you who sent cards, flowers, letters, texts and ask that God look upon me with healing. And I want to say I thank you so very much. I think many times people don't know the wear and tear that occurs on our body as we drive back and forth two and three and four hours one way or the other and we're also eating improperly through no fault of our own. And we… we do a great deal to serve the public and re… it really disturbs me when I read in the paper about how many people have been absent and how many days. I have been here 29 years and of those 29 years, I've been absent three times. Once because of the death of my sister and the other two I don't remember what they were about. But I think people should realize that the dedication that is given to this state by the people like Mautino, my colleague and many others who sit in this Body. And we just want to say to the public, we're here for you. We come to serve you many times when it's to our own disadvantage. And again, I thank you to you for your prayers 09900071.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 and your concern and I ask God to look upon each one of you with His special, special blessing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you, colleague. We're still on the Order of Concurrence. House Bill 3765, Representative Scherer."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's rather unusual to bring up a Bill after all of that, but we will try to just shift gears and do the peoples' work. I ask that the House concur on Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 3765. The Senate Sponsor and I have continued working with the City of Springfield. And the Bill was amended in the Senate to alleviate concerns violating State and Federal Law. And I ask for an 'aye' vote. I appreciate your consideration."

"The Chair recognizes… I'm sorry. The Chair recognizes Representative Butler."

"Representative Scherer moves to concur with Senate Amendment #1 of House Bill 3765. This Bill needs 71 votes. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. 09900071.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this measure, with 113 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', the House concurs with Senate Amendment #1 on House Bill 3765. House Bill 3765, having received the requisite amount of votes, is hereby adopted. House Bill 4006. House Bill 4006, Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4006, I ask that we concur on Amendments #1, 2, 4 and 5. I believe that the Senate actually did us a favor by actually clarifying the Bill. What this would be is it creates the Burn Victims Relief Act (aka) the George Bailey Memorial Program. And it provides that the funding would come from a… a portion of the fund that goes to the State Fire Marshal's Office. They have agreed to use that. And we will pay it as the individuals receive their Social Security disability insurance payments. I ask for a Concurrence."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"He indicates he will."

"Yes. It is for burn victims who have become disabled and have been told by two independent physicians that his or her prognosis is that they will have less than 18 months left 09900071.docx 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 to live. They'll immediately receive the five month's pay that he or she would have received from Social Security had there not been a mandatory five-month waiting period. It's my understanding that the average amount is $1100 a month. So, very few individuals probably in the state will be eligible for this. The Fire Marshal's Office actually came up with this funding mechanism. And it's better than what we were going to use, which I… was the foreign… the foreign exch… the Foreign Fire Insurance Fund which would have caused some problems with reciprocity with other states so. They're in favor of it. I know of no known opposition. I think it's a good Bill."

"Thank you."

"Representative Hoffman moves to concur with Senate Amendments #1, 2, 4 and 5 to House Bill 4006. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed… this requires 71 votes, requires 71 votes. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. On this question, with 114 voting 'yea', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', the House concurs 09900071.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 with Senate Amendments #1, 2, 4 and 5 of House Bill 4006. House Bill 4006, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 8 of your Calendar, we have Senate Bills on Third Reading. Senate Bill 1564, Representative Gabel. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, return this Bill to Second Reading for the purpose of an Amendment."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment just changes the effective date of the Bill to… there's… to have no effective date of all on the Bill."

Speaker Riley: "Representative Gabel moves to adopt Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1564. All in favor… The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"So, the Bill would then only require 60 votes."

"It would become effective Jul… June 1, 2016."

"Correct."

"This Bill's ready to go now. We… we were trying to call it at the end of Session in May. And there just wasn't an opportunity to do it then."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sullivan."

Speaker Riley: "Representative Gabel moves do adopt Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 1564. This is a Roll Call vote. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, take the record. This question, with 56 voting 'yea', 52 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', Floor #1 to Senate Bill 1564 is hereby adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Keep this Bill on Second Reading. Representative Leitch, for what reason do you rise?"

Speaker Riley: "It'll be duly recorded. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

Speaker Riley: "Leader Currie moves to adopt the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor state by saying 'aye'; all those opposed 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions have been adopted. The Chair recognizes Representative Brown."

"Republicans will caucus in Room 118 for one hour. The Democrats will caucus immediately in Room 114. House will now stand in recess until the call of the Chair."

"Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Sandack, for what reason do you seek recognition?" 09900071.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Please proceed, Sir."

"I don't know yet, Sir, but I'll let you know."

"I'll be sure to let you know as soon as I find out."

"Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Just a moment, Representative. Representative Davidsmeyer, at the request of the Chair, would you please put your Motion in writing and submit it to the Clerk? Thank you. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Sandack, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed."

Speaker Turner: "Representative, I requested the… that Representative Davidsmeyer submit the Motion in writing to the Clerk and that was not submitted in writing to the Clerk."

"Parliamentarian is…"

"Parliamentarian is not the Clerk."

"Representative, that Motion is out of order. Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Representative, your Motion is out of order. Representative Bill Mitchell, for what reason do you seek recognition?" Mitchell, B.: "Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir." Mitchell, B.: "Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I don't quite understand. Representative Davidsmeyer's Bill all it says was that state workers will be on a continuing appropriation just like Members of the General Assembly, the General Assembly staff, judges. It's not a Bill in the extreme. It's moderate Bill. It's something that I think Republicans and Democrats can join together, pass this Bill and then we can talk about 09900071.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 other issues. Again, not in the extreme, moderate. Let's do it."

"Chair recognizes Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you. Now, Mr. Speaker, there's a lot of noise coming from that side of the aisle. It just sounds like noise to me. All I hear is… that's all I hear. We have Rules. Mr. Speaker, you're well within your rights to uphold the Rules of the House. There's a process by which a person can make a certain Motion. The Rule specifies how the person needs to make that Motion. The Rule also specifies whether it's suspendable or not. So, to do… so, to propose that we have a Roll Call vote on something that isn't appealable or isn't changeable, is a moot point. I would recommend, Mr. Speaker, that we move on to the business of the House."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Representative Nekritz, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I find this a fascinating discussion. By… over the last couple weeks when we've been debating… debating some budgets around here, we hear continually how our bud… the budgets that the Democratic… Democrats are passing are out of balance. No matter how much we're appropriating in those budgets, they're out of balance 09900071.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 because if we extrapolate from what we're doing now, the budget we would be passing out, we extrapolate that then the entire budget is out of balance. Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, if we are going to pass a continuing appropriation with no cap, no time frame, no limit for state employees, then the budget is out of balance. The budget is out of balance because we're going to get… if we're going to pay them everything we paid them last year that by extrapolation we're going to pay everybody everything we paid last year and the budget is out of balance. That's the argument I've been hearing for days. I'm a little amazed that the other side of the aisle would… would make that argument right now. Not that we don't want to see state workers paid, we want to see people compensated for what… for the work that they do. And I think that our side of the aisle has been very clear about our desire and our willingness to do that. In fact, it’s an argument over whether workers are to be paid for what they're worth and the work that they do that's holding up the state budget and keeping us from focusing on the budget and getting it done. And it… and if we can put aside those issues about… about labor unions, collective bargaining, prevailing wage, all those things, we can put those aside and focus on a budget, folks, I guarantee we could get it done."

"Representative Guzzardi, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Remarkable to me as well to hear our colleagues from the opposite side of the aisle say, who would vote against 09900071.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 state workers getting paid for their work? Who would vote against that? I couldn't agree more. And I think in about 20 minutes we're going to see a lot of folks from the opposite side of the aisle vote against state workers getting paid for their work. And if you're shaking your head saying, no, I'm not going to vote against that, I welcome the bipartisan cooperation. I cannot wait to see every Member in this chamber vote for state workers getting paid for their work. I can't wait for it."

"Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Representative, your Motion is out of order. Rule 18(g) provides the method for discharging a Bill from the Rules Committee. Your Motion does not comply with that 09900071.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 Rule and therefore is out of order. Representative Kay, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Please proceed, Representative."

"Representative, have you taken a look at Rule 18(g)? Rule 18(g) provides…"

"…the method for discharging a Bill from the Rules Committee. Your Motion or Representative Davidsmeyer's Motion does not comply with that Rule and therefore is out of order."

"Representative, the Motion is out of order. You have any further questions?"

"Take a look at your Rule book, 18(g)."

"Representative, I'm… I'm addressing the Motion that is on the table right now. And… and that's where we're going for with and that Motion is out of order."

"You're welcome. Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Representative, in accordance with House Rule 57, a Motion to appeal is not in order if the House has conducted intervening business since the ruling at issue was made. Representative Kay, for what reason do you seek recognition?" 09900071.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Representative, do you have some business that you'd like to address? Otherwise…"

"…we… we're going to… we're going to go forward…"

"…with the business of the day."

"Okay. Thank you. On page 8 of the Calendar, we have Senate Bill 2040. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, can you please bring Senate Bill 2040 back to the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you very much, Speaker and Members of the House. This is the opportunity you have been waiting for. This Amendment… this Amendment would provide pay for state workers. But unlike the proposal in House Bill 4245, it would limit the pay… limit the pay for one month, so that we can continue to discuss and debate a full 12-month budget. And it 09900071.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 would cap the amount that we spend so it's not unlike House Bill 4245 raise the specter that we are breaking the bank, breaking the budget and providing no controls on state moneys that are spent on workers that we are ignoring the collective bargaining contract that we are making sure, in this measure, that our workers get paid in a timely fashion. And I hope that I will have support from every Member of this chamber to adopt Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 2040. Happy to answer your questions. And I look forward to your unanimous ‘yes’ vote."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Sponsor will yield."

"This… this lasts one month. This would provide for funding…"

"There doesn't need to be a repeal date. It is a one- month spending plan."

"That… the un…"

"The underlying Bill says that. And this Amendment would be an Amendment to the Bill that says that the repeal happens on August 1."

"In the Amendment, no. In the Bill to which the Amendment will be attached with your help, the answer is yes."

"Correct."

"It…"

"Yes. And the Senate will be in and the…"

"That's right."

"The Governor…"

"…the Governor has 60 days."

"…but I know… I know this Governor cares about the workers of the State of Illinois. And I know that when he gets a Bill that will provide one-month funding, personal services for all of our state employees, he will do the right thing and he will affix his signature…"

"…to it as quickly as he gets the Bill."

"And that would be effective for the full month of July. And I would also point out that the Governor could hardly sign the Bill that you were proposing since it breaks the budget."

"We're talking billions of dollars out of whack."

"Billions."

"Representative Lang."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, I find the rhetoric coming from the other side of the aisle interesting. Not only from the previous speaker and not only about their desperate concern about this Amendment, but the prior Motion of Mr. Davidsmeyer. I've been listening carefully over the last weeks to rhetoric coming out of the other side of the aisle and the Governor's Office relative to the budget, relative to paying state employees, relative to what we're going to do for Fiscal Year '16. Let me start by saying, we didn't have to be here at all. Pretty… it's pretty ludicrous for the people on the Minority side of the aisle and for the Governor to be jumping up and down over these issues when there was a Bill on the Governor's desk that would have funded State Government that would have paid state employees and yes, you can argue that it was out of balance. Of course, the Governor's proposal was out of balance as well. We indicated on our side of the aisle that we had an interest in both cuts, which we did, I think about $800 million and revenue as well. The Governor, himself, admits we need new revenue but will only discuss that revenue if we take care of the political issues that happen to be on his plate at the moment. So, the Governor could have taken the spending plan that was passed out of the General Assembly that was on his desk and done a reduction Veto or simply just not spent the money. To send these Bills back here or to send the whole issue of the budget back here at all, was an irresponsible act. And those that 09900071.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 support it are supporting an irresponsible act and thereby become irresponsible themselves. So, the only reason that we need to be here and discuss this is that the Governor of the State of Illinois took it upon himself to hold the people of the State of Illinois and the budget of the State of Illinois hostage over nonbudgetary items that have nothing whatsoever to do with the budget. Someone over there, when I'm finished, is going to say that's nonsense. It's about the economic climate and it would improve the economic climate, bunch of nonsense. Those are issues that can and should be debated on the House Floor and on the Senate Floor. And those are issues, some of which, we have debated. We have debated property taxes. We have debated workers' comp. We've debated quite a few of these issues and some even passed out of this chamber. So, the insistence by the Governor on these nonbudgetary issues that has willing enablers and those in compliance because they're told to be, on the other side of the aisle, is what's getting in the way of the health of sick children in Rockford, and seniors in serious need of services in Effingham. It threatens the gentleman we saw here last week during the Committee of the Whole whose DON score is at 36. These actions by the Governor are appalling. Those that would support the notion that the entire budgetary discussion ought to be back on the House Floor at all are playing in some fantasyland that I don't understand. The Governor has the… all the power he needed to make changes in the do… in the budget documents or the spending documents that were on his desk and instead chose for his own purposes to put us back in this situation, threatening the ill, threatening seniors, 09900071.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 threatening those with autism, threatening those with epilepsy, threatening those who need adult day care, threatening those who have serious needs. You all, even on that side of the aisle, recognize these serious needs, but you've become enablers. You've taken irresponsible acts and taken them upon yourself as your irresponsible acts. Now, the Governor and you have decided you want to pay state employees. That's great. But let's look at the facts. The facts are we all want to pay state employees. The facts are we all want State Government to stay open, not lose the services of the people of our state need. Of course, some of you enablers were bailed out by a court order whereby many people are going to get paid through that court order, certainly not all state employees. Many grantees will get paid. DCFS will get paid. Many will, many won't. But for some of you, that's good enough. So, what do we have instead of all that? We have campaign ads. We have mailers. We have all kinds of things… Oh, robocalls. Let me not forget the robocalls. …coming out of the Governor's Office and his minions. All of that has failed. The Governor's political rating continues to sink. Those robocalls were failures. The people that called my office had no idea why they were calling. And you know, Ladies and Gentlemen, if the Governor had $40 million to spend on campaigns, maybe he could have helped an autistic child with that money. Maybe he could have built a school with that money. Maybe he could have taken care of somebody with a DON score of 36.9 with that money. I find it incredibly interesting that the Governor now is so desperate to pay state employees, in light of his campaign and in light of what he's 09900071.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 been saying all spring, where he's reviled state employees. He's referred to those trying to negotiate fair wages for employees as corrupt. He referred to Governor… the discussions between Governor Quinn and AFSCME as corrupt. Why? Because AFSCME may have dared to make a campaign donation to the Governor while they might be negotiating their contract. Apparently it's okay though that he writes four hund… that Governor Rauner writes $400 thousand in checks to Republicans in the House and Senate the night before the right-to-work vote. Apparently, that's okay. And apparently, it's okay, just before the union negotiations are now about to begin that the Governor is now with them. He went to court to make sure they could get paid, failed. Now he wants, through his minions and enablers, to come to the floor through them and try to get them paid and this is the same Governor who said the following things over the last several months. In October of 2012, the Governor called AFSCME AFScammy and said they are out there for their own interests. On shutting out employees during a campaign event last year, the Governor said, 'We may have to go through rough times. We may have to do what Ronald Reagan did with the air traffic controllers. Sort of have to do a do-over and shut things down for a little while. That's what we're going to do’. In January, the Governor said, 'The government union bosses are at the core of our spending problem in Illinois'. Rauner said in a Primary debate arguing that public unions create a conflict of interest for taxpayers and public unions have made a mess of the state's finances. These are the people the Governor now wants to help. Rauner said that public employees average 09900071.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 salaries are among the highest of any state in this country and share… and the state's share of health care premiums is too high. In a lawsuit filed against the Governor's attempt to withhold fair share fees, the Rauner administration said the lawsuit demonstrates that unions 'will do anything to keep the broken status quo'. This was stated by one of the Governor's minions in the Chicago Tribune in March. Members, on your side of the aisle, you enablers are not immune from this. One of your Members said, 'There's only 38 thousand members in AFSCME, you'd think there’re 38 million. They're mobilized like ants'. That same Member said, 'Trust me. It's like spanking a child sometimes. The child doesn't want to be spanked, but in the end, it's going to make them a better person'. The Governor, after he was elected, in the early spring was running around the state doing a PowerPoint presentation. During this PowerPoint presentation, he said, 'The average public sector employee in Illinois makes almost 22 percent more, over $11,300 per year, than the average private sector employee.’ A 2013 University of Illinois study found that the opposite is true. The opposite is true. It was a total fabrication. The Governor's PowerPoint attempts to make a comparison between State Government pay versus working family pay, as if state workers aren't part of the working family scenario in Illinois themselves. In a February 2 memo to us, the Governor directs us to slides on state workers' salaries. The Governor writes that 'these levels are unsustainable and unfair to working families.' Again, making it clear that he believes state workers are overpaid and he doesn't consider state workers to part of the larger group of 09900071.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 working families in the State of Illinois. This problem, Ladies and Gentlemen, could have been alleviated with a simple stroke of the pen. I think the Governor must have some lawyers up there somewhere. If the lawyers had talked to the Governor and had not been bullied by him, as he attempts to do with us on a regular basis, they could have told him the Constitution provides to fix, if he thought it needed to be fixed or changed, the spending plan we sent to him. A simple stroke of the pen. We would all be in our districts. We would all be able to attend our events. We would all be able to be with our families. The people of Illinois would have whatever budget the Governor decided we should have. We don't have to be here. He, in the end, could have created any budget he wanted to, but yet, we're here. We're here because the Governor has a political agenda. And we're here because that political agenda is going to be foisted on us come hell or high water no matter what's right or what's wrong. Let's remember that the budget introduced by the Governor in February was out of balance. The difference is that when we filed and passed our spending plan we said we don't have enough money for this, but this plan reflects the values of the citizens of the State of Illinois. The Governor tried to play a hoax. The Governor tried to convince us and the people of the State of Illinois that his budget balanced, his budget would fix Illinois, his budget reflected our values and his budget was going to take care of all the world's problems and get us on the right course. Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, it was a hoax. I've heard the word 'sham' 10 thousand times this year from that side of the aisle, from those enablers over 09900071.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 there. And those enablers think it's okay for the Governor to play a hoax on us and the people of the State of Illinois, but it is not. A simple stroke of the pen, Ladies and Gentlemen, would have fixed all of this. We wouldn't have to be here. The gentleman with the 36 DON score would be taken care of. The child in Effingham would be taken care of. The people of the State of Illinois would be taken care of. Instead, here we are debating whose Bill to fund the payment for the next month for state employee workers is a better Bill. We're going to get to the end of the vote on Representative Currie's Amendment and you're not going to vote for it. You will not vote to pay state employees on Representative Currie's Amendment. You only wanted to do it on your Bill. Just like you were for property tax relief, but not for the property tax relief written in exactly the same language of the Governor's Bill proposed by Representative Bradley several times, which you may get a chance to see again sometime. This is wrong. We shouldn't be here. But one thing is sure, state employees are hard working. State employees deserve to be paid. State employees don't deserve to be vilified like Governor Rauner has done and now he pretends to put his arms around them and say, gee, guys, you're really important to me. Gee, I really want to help you. Ladies and Gentlemen, they aren't fooled. We aren't fooled. And the enablers over there know the truth as well, but they're not going to tell it to you. But they're going to tell you how you've… they really feel about the workers, the hardworking men and women, that work for State Government every day that work at our prisons that work in those offices that do all 09900071.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 the work that needs to be done for the State of Illinois in just a few minutes, when we see red and yellow votes up on the board. I challenge you to do the right thing. Stop being enablers. Start doing your jobs. Join us in taking the lead to run this General Assembly. The Constitution gives us power to do what we need to do as a coequal branch of government. Don't give away that power. Through the last two Governors who were Democrats, this side of the aisle told them both when they were wrong. We fought with Governor Quinn when it was appropriate. And we sure as hell fought with Governor Blagojevich when it was appropriate. When will you step up to the plate and reflect the values that your constituents sent you here to reflect. We're prepared to do that. Join us to do the right thing today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We had a beautiful moment just a second ago of bipartisan consensus. We finally agreed state workers do valuable work and deserve to be paid. In Chicago, we have the Hubbard Street Dance Company. Man, they're fantastic. Don’t know if you all haven't gone to see them. What the folks in the gallery are about to witness is a modern dance performance the likes of which Hubbard Street has never seen. You're going to see tap dancing and side stepping and shuffling away from that position that you just heard. Just a moment ago, we heard how valuable it was to pay our state employees, but now, I'm not quite sure what it's going to be. Maybe it's going to be that we're… only paying them for one month instead of for 12 months. Well, you guys had the opportunity to vote for 12 months of paying state employees. 09900071.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 It was called a budget. And everyone over there voted against it, if I recall. Well… or perhaps the concern is going to be that this is wrapped up with all sorts of other measures. Well, God forbid, we should vote on spending a little money on human services here, while we're down here. God forbid, we should vote on 30 days of funding for people with disabilities and people with mental illness and children who are sick. Is that the concern? Is the concern that we're also paying for those services? I don't know; we're about to find out. For my part, I'm going to sit down and watch the show. And when it's done, I'm going to vote 'yes' for this Bill because it provides pay for those state employees who deserve it and it provides funding for the basic services that our families need. It's an important Bill and everyone in this chamber should vote 'yes'. I thought we just agreed we would?"

Speaker Turner: "The Chair recognizes Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor indicates that she will."

"I would be happy to. Amendment 1 provides that state workers will get their salaries paid from the beginning of July… July 1, 2016 through the end of July… July 31, 2016. So, what this does is makes sure our workers, all of whom deserve to be paid, make sure they get that pay, but we do it in a way that preserves the Governor's authority collectively 09900071.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 to bargain with state workers. We do not say this is an open- ended commitment. We don't call it a continuing appropriation, so that every time the workers and the Governor bargain over salary, the workers can cheerfully say, Governor, you can spend whatever you like. And we hope you'll spend the bank. So, we're giving the Governor something that preserves his control, his authority collectively to bargain with the workforce, but we're making sure that our workers get paid for one month while cooler heads, grownups prevail and we figure out spending for the rest of the fiscal year."

"I think that we're concerned now that the court has said that the state workers can't be paid, not even the minimum required by the Federal Labor Standards Act, and we think it's important that they do get paid. So, we're responding in part to what happened yesterday in the Appellate Court in Cook County. We want to make sure the workers do get paid. They should not have to go month after month without… without pay. This is a one-month deal. And we are a continuing Body and we have been in continuous Session and we are prepared to come back. If we haven't done a full budget by the end of July, we can come back and renew this Motion."

"Well, I believe there had been a lawsuit filed asking whether all the salaries might be paid. And the answer is, while there was some court orders that the court sustained, continuing appropriations that the court sustained, the court said that in response to the question about state workers 09900071.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 about whom there was neither a continuing appropriation nor a consent decree nor a court order, the court said you can't pay."

"Now, the court might have said you can pay, if we could have separated out those workers who were subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act and those who were not, but our State Comptroller said she was not able to make that distinction."

"The Attorney General brought the suit. And the Attorney General defended some spending, but not full spending."

"I don't think that was before the court."

"First, of course, there is no budget because the Governor vetoed the budget Bills and until… until there is, if there 09900071.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 is an override, there is no budget for a court to rule upon. Second, we took our estimates… our estimates based on what we projected would be the appropriate level of revenue. I don't understand why you're talking about that. Before us in an Amendment to make sure our workers get paid this month. You said, just a few minutes ago, you were for that. Let's talk about how important it is to make sure these deserving workers get the day's pay that they are worthy of."

"Chair recognizes Representative Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of the Lady's Amendment. And we've heard 09900071.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 and… and seen a lot of different things, but the courts have stepped forward and they've actually ruled. And so, what does that mean? If we take a look at what the court has said and who will and who will not be paid, about 97 percent of the state's employees, your constituents who send you here to do a job which is to get an operating budget for the State of Illinois, to those who put in their time and their hard work in DCFS in the agencies, the social service agencies, Corrections, all of our institutions, they will not receive a paycheck, period. That is what the court has said. And as we look to that, we do have a definitive answer. No one is in limbo. Will the check come? The answer without this Amendment is no. Through the past four Governors, we have hit budget stalemates. We have put together short-term budgets that keep the essential basic operations of State Government moving so that reasonable people can get together and come up with the only thing that is truly our job here which is to set and structure a budget which keeps State Government functioning. That means it pays our people and without this, that doesn't happen, 97 percent of the people who work in your facilities, who work for the State of Illinois. In LaSalle County, there's $50 million worth of payroll. There is $14 million in Bureau County. There is $3 million in Putnam County. These are people who go to work. They work hard every day. And they deserve to be paid and without this… and I know numbers. I know numbers. I know budgets. I have known them for years. I know and respect the appropriations people on both sides. They know and they can tell you that this is the only option. It leaves the Governor with a choice, a very difficult choice. Do you 09900071.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 let the institutions in the State of Illinois fail in pursuit of something that may be important but not the fundamental responsibility of this Body, which is to ensure that state operations for the neediest continue, that the schools continue, that our people get paid what they should be paid. This is 30 days. It takes out all the arguments from the courts. It is a personal services budget. The Governor could have done this by zeroing everything else in all of the lines except for personal services. He didn't choose to do that. This is all about choices. The choice that we will provide him today and that he will have to make is, will our state services continue for the most needy and will we pay our people? And we're going to give him that opportunity very shortly. I would urge you to vote 'yes'. We’re asking 30 days for the Leaders of these chambers to get together and do what we are supposed to do, what we are sent here to do and what we take an oath to do. Vote 'yes'."

"Chair recognizes Representative Demmer."

"Chair recognizes Representative Tryon."

"Sponsor will yield."

"My… my…"

"We are talking about Amendment 1. Amendment 1 would provide one-month's pay for state workers. My understanding is that the Governor vowed to appeal the ruling of the Appellate Court yesterday that said there can be no pay for state workers. So, I heard the Governor loud and clear. I heard the Governor say yes in spite of all those remarks that Lou Lang read to us, in spite of all of that, this Governor does want to make sure the state workforce gets its salary checks at the end of the week."

"So, that's all this Amendment does. And I…"

"…as I would say, I think that it's very responsive to the Governor's public statements of late. Although, obviously, he's entitled to change his mind…"

"…20 times between today and the time that this Bill gets to his desk."

"It would help if the Governor were here to talk about the budget. The Governor seems not interested in talking about the budget, but about items that are extraneous to the budget. And I appreciate your new-found enthusiasm for all the health and human service programs that we care about too, but my recollection is that you and all of your colleagues voted 09900071.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 'no' to a full-year budget that did include the autism project…"

"…not just general services to the disabled. So, I'm pleased…"

"…I'm pleased with…"

"…this new commitment and we have many more weeks that we may end up spending together and maybe more of those programs will find their way rising to the fore as these programs have."

"This is not…"

"Yes, we call it the Rauner budget."

Speaker Turner: "Chair recognizes Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A couple questions of the Sponsor?"

"Sponsor indicates that she will yield." Mitchell, C.: "Leader Currie, just a couple quick questions. I want to make sure I understand a couple points. All of the programs included in this essential services budget were fully funded in the budget that we sent to the Governor's desk, were they not?"

"Actually, we're on Amendment 1, which is the proposal that will provide funding for our workers for the month of July." Mitchell, C.: "I understand, Leader. I just know these questions have been raised, so I'm just attempting to address them as well. And a couple speakers mentioned some services that they wanted to see funded either through this Amendment or through the underlying Bill. Are you aware of any separate 30-day Appropriations Bill that would fund domestic violence, breast cancer from our friends on the other side of the aisle?"

"I haven't see one, but as they say, I think it's a discussion we can continue to have." Mitchell, C.: "And I think I…"

"And I hope that we will." 09900071.docx 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 Mitchell, C.: "…I think I would agree with that. And just one final question. It may seem extraneous; it'll make sense in my close. When we talk about this $4 billion out of balance budget, did that also include the Appropriations Bills for education?"

"Of course." Mitchell, C.: "So, to the Amendment and I think to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would take this Governor as being a man of his word. One of the things that the Governor talked about during his campaign was the need to fully fund, in fact, increase funding to our public schools, our K-12 education programs. And despite the fact that everyone on one side of the aisle, in fact, voted against that education Appropriations Bill, I do believe that the Governor signed that Bill. The Governor has now said that he is very serious about paying our public employees. So, what I might be worried about is I encourage all of you to support this Amendment that we're voting on is will you again find yourself strung out by the fact that the Governor signs the Bill that, in fact, funds critical services based on his own word. He's done it once before and I would caution my colleagues it may happen again. This is a good Bill that doesn't overstep our bounds, but in fact, makes sure that our state employees will be paid. I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Chair recognizes Representative Kay."

"Chair recognizes Representative Keith Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"She indicates that she will." Wheeler, K.: "Leader Currie, you know I'm a freshman. It's my first time through this budget process."

"Congratulations." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you. I appreciate that. When I sat down in my first Appropriations Committee meeting, the veteran Members were kind enough to go through a little outline of the process that we should expect. I'm going to read it very briefly. I 09900071.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 was hoping it would start with a revenue estimate then we'd move on to things like expenditures and things that are above the line and below the line. And it sounded like an interesting and actually a pretty thoughtful appropriate process. But where I'm from, we talk about budgets. A budget has two sides. It has a revenue side, an expenditure side and we still don't, to my knowledge, have ever adopted a revenue estimate. Leader Currie, do you anticipate that we will at some point adopt a revenue estimate as a Body?"

"At what point?" Wheeler, K.: "Do you anticipate that we will at any point actually adopt a revenue estimate?"

"I don't know whether that's going to happen or not." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. I'm just going to go to the Bill then. On the first day, the first thing that we did here as a Body, when inaugurated and we stood up and we swore to uphold a Constitution of the State of Illinois. And part of that Constitution says that we are going to pass or we're not going to budget… appropriate any more funds than we actually have a revenue estimate for, we haven't had a revenue estimate yet. That's why I voted 'no' on everything we've done so far because we can't justify what we're doing as far as expenditures are concerned. I have a hard time looking at my kids and telling them that I'm doing my job voting to spend money that we haven't authorized that we actually have yet. So, I will continue to vote 'no' until we get the process right and we understand what we're really doing. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Verschoore." 09900071.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Personal privilege. I very seldom get up, but I feel compelled to get up today. And I heard the other side of the aisle talk about how they're so concerned about our workers and having… having to be getting paid. I got a call from a maintenance worker today. And he said, you know, what's going to happen? I've got a couple little daughters and I don't know how I'm going to pay for it. And then, as your… the Republican side of the aisle said, we're concerned about our workers and the Governor's concerned about our workers. Well, I'm going to read something that was in the Capitol Fax today. Bruce Rauner's pension Bill. Public employers and labor organizations may not bargain over or no collective bargaining agreement enter into, renew or extend or after the effective date of the 99th General Assembly, that includes provisions related to the following prohibitive subject of bargaining. That means they can't even talk about it. Sounds just like Wisconsin, folks. A public employer and a labor organization may not bargain over these following issues: employees' pensions including the impact of implementation of changes to employees' pensions including the employees consideration pension program as set forth in Section 30 of the Personal Code; wages including any form of confers… compensation including salaries, overtime compensation, vacations, holidays, any fringe benefits including the impact of implementation of changes to the same except nothing in this Section 7.6 will prohibit the employer from electing to bargain collective or an employer provided health insurance; hours of work including work, schedules, shift schedules, overtime hours, 09900071.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 compensa… compensatory time and lunch periods including the impact of implementation of change the same; matters of the employees tenure including the impact of employees tenure or time in service on the employers exercise of authority including but not limited to any consideration the employer may… or must give to the tenure of employees adversely affected by the employer exercise of management's right to conduct a layoff. Now, I ask you, does that sound like someone that's really interested in the ploy… the employees of the State of Illinois? Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Leader Currie to close."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. Straightforward proposition: do you want to make sure that workers get their paychecks or July paycheck… paychecks? We are responsible for funding. Please vote 'yes' on Amendment 1."

"Leader Currie moves that the House adopt Floor Amendment #1 to Senate Bill 2040. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 71 voting 'yes', 7 voting 'no', and 21 voting 'present', the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, Senate Bill 2040. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie." 09900071.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. To separate parts of the Bill: one would pay state workers for the month of July. And the second would see to it that community providers of critical services to fragile, vulnerable populations would not be lost in the mix. It seems to me that these are both very important goals. We all are workers, a day's wage for a day's work. And we also want to make sure that people who depend upon child care in order to get to the job on time, people with mental illness and developmental… developmental disabilities need to be able to get services provided in the community. Nutrition programs for low-income elderly, for women, infants and children. These are all at stake in this… in Senate Bill 2040. And while some would suggest the Governor would veto these critical services for a vulnerable populations, I've known this Governor to change his mind. And I can't believe that given a choice he would say no to children in need. He would say no to foster care. He would just say yes to workers. So, I think that this gives the Governor first, of course, the opportunity to fund only what he wants to fund for the coming month, but it gives him the opportunity to stand not only with the state workforce, but also with fragile populations who need our support if they're going to be able to make it through the day, make it through the week. A one-month funding plan gives us time to put our heads together, to behave like grownups, to be responsible for the budget for the full fiscal year. Nothing in Senate Bill 2040 would break the bank. Nothing would take us over a twelve-month spending plan that we cannot afford. So, there is no excuse, I would say, not to vote anything but 09900071.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 'yes' on the provisions of this measure. I would be happy to answer your questions. This Bill needs your support."

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"Chair recognizes Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates that she will." 09900071.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 Wheeler, B.: "Thank you. Leader, I know sincerely that you mean to fund the state workers and their pay. Am I… am I correct in that?"

"Absolutely." Wheeler, B.: "I also know that this Bill is complicated with other spending that you recognize that we're not going to be voting for or will be voting 'present' on."

"I find it impossible to believe that each and every one of you thinks that these fragile vul… vulnerable population should go without help during the month of July." Wheeler, B.: "I…"

"I don't believe it and I think if you look at what we're talking about here developmentally disabled children, seniors who need nutrition support in order to survive, families that need child care in order to get to work. I find it very difficult to believe that in your heart you believe that state workers deserve pay, but these populations deserve nothing from the state." Wheeler, B.: "I think that's not correct to say that we think they deserve nothing is incorrect."

"Well, I'm… I'm glad to hear that, Representative." Wheeler, B.: "And I think there’s a lot of work that we need to do with these populations you… in the budget for the populations you just described. However, I'm listening to this debate especially through the Amendment. The one thing I know both Houses can… or both sides can agree on is the state workers need to be paid and not just for that month or 20 days or two and a half weeks or whatever the math becomes, 09900071.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 but continually. And I believe sincerely you agree with that. Am I correct?"

"I believe that there ought to be limits on how much we pay state workers. I believe in the collective bargaining pro… program. And I believe that the Governor, the Executive, ought to have control over the size of the employee payroll. I believe that we should not say, by a virtue of a continuing uncapped appropriation, that the employee pay is whatever… whatever they're able to get someone to agree to because there are no limits under an approach that says we'll do a continuing appropriation without any kind of cap whatsoever. So, I think this… this Bill is a far more reasonable approach than what has been offered under other Bills that have been introduced in this Assembly." Wheeler, B.: "So, I'm assuming you're referring to House Bill 4245?"

"I am." Wheeler, B.: "Okay. So, that was going to be my next question. I'm not interested in calling it… the other side names. I'm not interested in doing a song and/or dance. Believe me, you don't want me to do either one of those. I'm not interested in making YouTube videos. I'm trying to find common ground and this is not going to be one of them. You're interested in your Bill and paying the state workers for approximately 16 days…"

"No, I'm sorry, 30 days. Let's be clear. It's oaky to say I don't want to do your approach, but don't give me a reason that is no reason whatsoever. It's a 30-day pay program…" Wheeler, B.: "I get it." 09900071.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"…and anybody who says it isn't is just throwing around red herrings…” Wheeler, B.: “Okay.”

“…smokescreens, it's not true. Thirty-day budget, 30 days." Wheeler, B.: "So… so, it's not repealed on August 1?"

"It's a… it's… it's backdated to July 1, so it's July 1 through July 31." Wheeler, B.: "Okay. All right."

"And it doesn't matter whether the Governor gets it next week or…" Wheeler, B.: "My next question to you Leader was and you won't support 4245. You are basically the Rules Committee, so you will not let that… that House Bill out because you disagree with the way the state workers will be paid on a continual basis for 12 months."

"Representative, the Rules Committee just got jurisdiction over House Bill 4245, lately filed as it was. The Rules Committee has not yet considered House Bill 4245. Before us is Senate Bill 2040…" Wheeler, B.: "Right. And I think everybody…"

"…and I would encourage you…" Wheeler, B.: "…I think there were plenty of people that have correctly predicted what's going to happen. We're going to vote 'no' or we'll vote 'present' or we won't 'no vote' and it doesn't matter. It'll pass 71 votes… possibly with 71 votes and we're pretty sure the Governor is not going to like this Bill either." 09900071.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Well, remember the Governor has options with an Appropriation Bill. The Governor can like part of it and not like other parts. The Governor can say I'm standing with these but not with those. He's got a line item. He's got a reduction item Veto in his gubernatorial tool kit. So, when this Bill reaches the Governor's desk, should you be helpful in making sure that happens, the Governor has many options available to him." Wheeler, B.: "Well…"

"It is not an all or nothing proposition." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you for that reminder. I was hoping to get a commitment from you if this Bill were to pass and go to the Governor's Office and it'd be vetoed. I was asking… was going to ask you to release 4245 out of Rules so we can also vote on that. And I'm going to assume I can't get your commitment on that?"

"certainly not." Wheeler, B.: "Okay. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Andersson."

"Chair recognizes Representative Demmer."

"Members, a verification has been requested by Representative Demmer. Chair recognizes Representative Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 09900071.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"She indicates that she will."

"Leader, I have a… just a couple of questions for you. I… I sat and listened to the debate on the Amendment and I've been listening here. There have been a number of things that have been said. And there was something that was said by one of our colleagues that words mean something. And I… I agree words mean something. And so, I want to talk about some words with you, if that's okay."

"How about persnickety?"

"Yeah. I'm not going to start with that one. I'm going to start with one that's been used a lot lately, constitutional. Constitutional. Now, you've been here a little bit longer than I have and I certainly don't presume to be a constitutional expert, but I have a couple of ideas and I’m wondering if you could maybe help me. My understanding of constitutionality is that it's sort of a threshold question. Meaning things either are constitutional or they're not constitutional. Would you agree with that?"

"Yes."

"So, the idea that something could be kind of constitutional that doesn't really fly or sort of constitutional. That really doesn't work, does it?"

"Right."

"So, we heard so much about how we passed this unconstitutional and irresponsible budget, but the Governor signed a portion of it. Is that correct?"

"Correct."

"So, did he… did he then sign an unconstitutional portion of our budget or I could see they're all 09900071.docx 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 constitutional. Or does he… does the power that's granted to the Governor and you spoke that you knew a little bit about his tool box, does he have the power to unilaterally decide what is constitutional and what is not?"

"No."

"Okay. 'Cause it would appear that that's what he's done and it would appear that that's what many of our colleagues on the other side of the aisle have done. They've said we've decided what is and what is not constitutional and yet it doesn't match up. And I'm a little perplexed by that. So, another thing that was said was we… you can't spend money you don't have. And that's a pretty basic precept. But they talk about a Bill that another Representative filed that would create a continuing appropriation for workers' salaries. Would that be… if your Bill here is spending money that we don't have, is their Bill somehow different or is that also spending money that we don't have?"

"Well, I would say unlike my Bill, their Bill would spend money that we do not have."

"Because your Bill leaves open the possibility… the possibility that there may actually be some resolution while their Bill, on its face, presumes that there never will be?"

"And even if you extrapolated this Bill, Senate Bill 2040, by 12 months, you would not be beyond appropriate revenues. This Bill does not fund all State Government for one month. It funds workers' salaries and it fund… it funds emergency critical essential services for some, but not all state populations."

"Thank you." 09900071.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"So, it's not one-twelfth of state funding in the la… spending in the last fiscal year nor the year before."

"In… in fact that's been pointed out by our colleagues on the other side of the aisle that there are many sensitive programs that I would prefer to fund that are not in here. Is that correct?"

"Correct."

"So, to the Bill. Words do mean something. And there's been much talk and… and I'm encouraged by some of my colleagues who have chosen to… some of the recent speakers who stood up and really chosen to speak frankly and honestly because that is clearly something that I think all of us can agree has been lacking. So, to those of you who have spoken frankly and honestly and without all of the political double talk on both sides of the aisle, I commend you for it because I think that's a step in the right direction. I'm going to do a little bit of that myself right now because I want to talk about some of the words that have been mentioned. What's been mentioned is, is that a word that keeps popping up and I heard this… if you care. If you care. Now, these are three words that I find fascinating because what do they mean? If you care. We have seen a parade of witnesses come here and testify. People with disabilities, people who are in need of services and we have constantly heard from our colleagues on the other side of the aisle that we care about you. We want to provide services to you, but we can't because the Democrats passed an unconstitutional, irresponsible, unbalanced budget. See, it's not rocket science, folks. This isn't the Federal Government. We don't get to print money, manipulate interest 09900071.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 rates, do creative bond back… buyback programs. It's really money in, money out. And it's been mentioned many times, we don't have the revenue unless Democrats raise taxes. That's not right, folks. We don't have the revenue unless this Body raises taxes. Unless this Body chooses to do the revenue. See, if you refuse the revenue, if you refuse the revenue, if you put that on us and we all know you can talk about the 71 votes, but the reality of the situation is, there's not a Republican on that side of the aisle that'll vote for a tax increase and we all know there isn't a Republican on this side of the aisle that will vote for it either. So, if you care, if you care about people with disabilities, if you care about people who have disabilities that need paratransit services, you cannot fund them at zero and say you care about them. We have a simple issue, folks. We either raise the revenue to spend for the services we care about, the services that we need or we don't. But all I ask is this, in the spirit of being honest, which is what we're doing… see, I'm doing something that is honest. Okay? I'm doing something that… that I think is probably not very wise politically. I'm saying as much as I'd not like to do it, I will not vote to get rid of those services. So, yes, I will vote to raise revenue. You can put it on the mailers. Not smart politically, but I'll be honest about it. If you won't vote to raise revenue, then be honest about it. Don't tell these people that you care about them. Tell them you feel bad, tell them you're sorry, but tell them that you’ll refuse to raise the money to fund their services. Be honest."

"Chair recognizes Representative Davidsmeyer." 09900071.docx 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"Yes. This is a one-month funding for personnel services throughout State Government."

"This Amendment was filed this afternoon, a few hours ago."

"Wait, say that again."

"No, I think that's incorrect. But let me just double- check with staff. Yeah. Well, so he better hurry."

"Well, wait a minute…"

"…if the Governor… Sorry, sorry. First of all… first of all, although the Governor's been quoted in the press, we know he's been quoted on six ways to Sunday, three sides of the same issue depending on whether it's Monday, Wednesday, or Friday. The Governor has said he wanted to appeal the court ruling that said that we can't pay state workers. Well, if that's what he'd like to do, why not give him the opportunity simply to sign a Bill that will pay the state workers during the month of July. If he doesn't care about vulnerable populations like the developmentally disabled, the mentally ill, children in need of nutritional services, child care programs, if doesn't care about that, he can veto that out of this Bill. So, there are options that the Governor has, if this Bill should arrive on his desk. And it seems to be fair for us to give him these options. I care about state workers. And I care about those vulnerable populations and I'm hopeful that by the time the Governor gets this Bill, he will care enough about both sides of the equation, the people that depend upon state services as well as those who are providing state services to make sure that he signs the Bill. That's not a very tough request and it is certainly fair to say that even if this were the budget 12 times, if this were the budget and times it by 12, that you're not out of whack the way the Rauner proposed budget was when we heard about it in the early part of the spring. So, I don't see why the Governor wouldn't welcome the opportunity to sign this Bill and in terms of our experience in the past, short-term funding has often been the way to start a serious adult conversation about a full budget for a full fiscal year." 09900071.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Yeah, I do and just to remind you, the Governor said he wasn't going to sign the Education Bill, the Elementary and Secondary funding Bill, which the Governor then signed. So, as I say, I don't know that you can assume that what he said on Tuesday is the way he will behave the following Tuesday when the measure is actually on his desk."

"And I want to protect the Governor from a budget proposal that is so out of whack that it takes away his authority collectively to bargain with state employees. So, I think that the other proposal…"

"…you reference is fatally flawed in terms of both the Governor's willingness to sign something that he believes is out of whack, out of balance and it curtails the Executive Authority in ways that I can't believe that people like you would generally support."

"I think the Governor doesn't understand what your Bill would mean to his position in collective bargaining negotiations."

"I think it's scary."

"No."

"Chair recognizes Leader Bellock."

"Chair recognizes Representative Franks."

"Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I was referred to before I'm not sure it could have been somebody else. But listen, I pride myself on being independent, being fiscally conservative. I can also see the validity, I think, as a result of my friends on the other side of the aisle feeling though they're not getting anything more than lip service. But I also can tell you that many of my friends on this side of the aisle feel the same way because their core beliefs are very different than some on the other side. The stand-off that we're having today I think is a natural result of the unavoidable contradiction between those that believe the state needs more revenue than the current law provides and unfortunately, the state has proven to be a terrible manager of the tax dollars. I mean, that's where we find ourselves. And many of us have been fighting unnecessary spending. And so, I think we need to do some of this. I'm against the tax hike, very clear on that. That's one of the reasons why I like this Bill. I voted for it last week and I explained at that time that I stand with the people with the faintest voices. I'm not going to get into those reasons again today. But what this Bill is simply is a 30-day breather. That's all. This will not require a tax hike. This Bill will not require more revenue than we already have. Let's be very clear on that. Now, yesterday, the courts required that Medicaid must be paid, which if you look at the underlying Bill, that's 09900071.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 about two-thirds of this Bill. So, we're really talking about funding only about $700 million at a time when we have approximately $32 billion in revenue. Let's also acknowledge that the Bill… that the budget that was passed here was out of balance, that it was about $4 billion underfunded. Well, let's also acknowledge that the Governor's budget was also out of balance and would have required more revenue for it to work. So, let's just… it's stating the fact; let's be honest about where we are. So, the fairest way to resolve this, I believe, is to open up some breathing room for caller… for cooler heads to prevail. And we ought to be talking about shared sacrifice. We ought to be talking about compromise. And we also ought to be talking about priorities. Now, the Democrats, my friends on this side of the aisle are going to need to accept that there's going to be some spending cuts and acknowledge that beyond doing so rhetorically. And my friends on the other side of the aisle we're going to have buck their base too and agree to revenue. Now, unlike some, I do not think that a tax hike is necessary to increase revenue. And I've identified… we worked last… many of us worked together bipartisanly last year talking about tax policies in this state. We had working groups and we came forward with a bunch of ideas and I pulled those out this morning. So, I've identified one and a half billion dollars in tax loopholes which benefit a small subset of corporations that could be eliminated in a budget package with spending reductions. I'd like to share some of those with you, but also, I want to call on my friends on the other side of the aisle to also identify specific line items to cut. Understand 09900071.docx 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 that 'cause I know you don't want to have a tax increase; I don't want to have a tax increase. So, it falls on us to find revenue and also cuts. So, I want to discuss these things. Let's talk about some corporate loopholes that are approximately $320 million right off the top. We also have streamlining… we look at the vendor discount system. Right now, Illinois has a vendor collection allowance of 1.75 percent for companies that remit their sale taxes on time. If we did it like Indiana does, like what many people hold often to be the paragon of virtue when it comes to State Government… if we did the same remittance rate as Indiana, the state would save $90 million annually and local governments would gain $57 million annually. All right. So, that's one thing we ought to be doing. We also give discounts for other collections on taxes and instead of doing those discounts, perhaps we ought to look at penalties if they're late. Because right now we're paying the state… right now, if we eliminated this, we'd save $47.75 million on collection on motor fuel tax, cigarette tax, telecommunication tax, liquor tax, hotel occupation use tax, underground storage tax, gas use tax. That's a lot of money. You look at the E10 exemption right now that we're giving. That is $500 million over five years. It'd be a hundred million dollars annualized. Also, can somebody please explain to me why we're giving newspapers $32 million a year in tax breaks so they can buy ink? This is a… this is not a nascent industry. This has been around for hundreds of years and you don't think that they would need to continued propping up in tax breaks to keep in business. That's $32 million a year. We have offshore continental shelf. We're giving tax 09900071.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 breaks for those that are offshore drilling and that costs almost $25 million a year to the state. You look at DCEO, a Bill that the Governor's probably going to veto that we passed a couple weeks ago, I think we ought to zero them out. That's $45.4 million just in GRF and $717 million in Other State Funds. Adding those very easy solutions together is approximately $1.5 billion. Now, last year, we also talked about getting rid of the private lottery manager. We were successful in doing that. If we ran the Lottery like other successful states do, such as Georgia and Massachusetts, we'd increase our revenues by approximately $1 billion. So, these solutions that I'm bringing forward to you today will account for about $2 and a half billion. Think about that, folks. I'm putting onus on the other side as well. We need to take this back. We need to come up with a solution, get past the rhetoric, work together to make the solution. The Governor said today… or yesterday that the budget is not dependent on advancing his pension proposal. Now, the pension proposal is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Our pension deficit is extraordinary and one that needs to be addressed. But if the Governor doesn't think that the pension needs to be addressed before we go to the budget, then perhaps he's willing to give on a few other things. But having said that, I think that we ought to bring forward some of his ideas and I think we should have those up and down votes and I agree with him. This Bill will pass today, folks. And there's been a lot of machinations trying to explain why it shouldn't like not everything's in the budget there and you know, certain folks aren't going to get their money. Well, that's because the other budget wasn't 09900071.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 amendatorily vetoed. All right. Let's understand that. Let's not make the perfect the enemy of the good. I'm going to call on the Governor not to veto this Bill. Show good faith. Show that you're willing to work with us. That you will listen to some of these ideas. Let's get some breathing room. Let's have some shared sacrifices, let’s have some compromise. Let's go forward on our priorities. Let's not have a default position necessarily of a tax hike. It's not something I think we need, something I don't think we need. But I think we can get the additional revenue if we work together. So, Governor, please, I understand you said that you want to veto this. I'd ask for you to look into your heart so that people with the faintest voices, those that can least afford it will not be harmed. I'm encouraging all my… I'm encouraging everyone to vote 'yes'. And those on the other side of the aisle, think about this. This is going to pass. Do the right thing. Please encourage the Governor not to veto this and I think it'll give us the time that we need to work together on compromise."

"The Chair recognizes Leader Durkin."

"Chair recognizes Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. One of the previous speakers from that side indicated that the budget that we're talking about or the spending plan that we're talking about leaves a lot of things out. Okay. Let's go back to February of 2015 where we heard an address by the Governor, whose budget address left out the community care program. It left out DCFS services for youth age 18 to 21. It left out funding for the division of alcohol and substance abuse. It left out funding for the division of mental health. It left out funding for the division of developmental disabilities. It left out funding for division of family and community services. By doing that, programs like the Autism Project, homeless youth services, teen reach and supportive housing, all of those things would have been left out. So, I think we need to take this conversation back because if we focus on the Governor's budget and I can only assume that as bad as you've talked about the budget that the Democrats passed, that apparently you love the Governor's budget despite the things that his budget left out. So, this brings us to kind of where we are now, the FY16 budget that the Democrats passed that all of you have said a lot of things about. It's out of balance. Whatever the case may be. But we've also heard that the Governor's introduced budget was also out of balance. Essentially, both budgets call for the need for revenue, something that I often talk about, others on this side have talked about the need for revenue. And I think probably what 09900071.docx 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 dismays me more about that conversation is that while we can't admit it here, but when we talk, walking through the halls, in each other's offices, places like that, guess what, we hear from your side that, yeah, we need some revenue. We can't do this without revenue. So, why don't we bring those conversations to the light? Why don't we take those conversations out of the dark places, out of just casual conversation in the hallway and bring it to the floor and have a conversation about the need for revenue? So, as the previous speaker said, this budget or spending plan leaves things out, so we don't leave things out. Let's talk about the need for money to fund vital services, whether it's a 30- month… a 30-day budget or not, there is a need for us to have a conversation about revenue. So, for those of you who will quietly say, yeah, we need to have revenue. Let's stop being quiet about it. Let's stop being quiet about the need that we… the desire that we need money to fund vital services here in the State of Illinois. That's the conversation that we need to be having. One of the previous speakers talked about getting together, working together to put together a budget that involves both spending, that involves cuts where we can agree them, but it also has to include revenue, Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's not forget that part of the conversation. If we can have a conversation about revenue, then we can indeed determine the budget that's necessary that we can bipartisanly put on the Governor's desk and dare him to veto it because we've worked together on it. Now, if he vetoes that budget, that means he doesn't care about this side of the aisle, which I can understand, but that also means he 09900071.docx 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 doesn't even care about his side of the aisle. So, let's be real about what's necessary here. Yes, this is a temporary conversation that we're having to get us through the remainder of the month of July. I get that. I can also appreciate, as the previous speakers have talked about, the need to have a long-term conversation about where we go for the remainder of the fiscal year. Yes, we passed a budget that you’ve criticized for being $4 billion overspending. That's fine. But recognize that it puts back in the budget the things that the Governor left out. And as the Leader said that he cares, well, if he really cares, then that's the conversation that he would agree that we all should be having so that we can put that bipartisan budget on the Governor's desk and stop trying to get through with short-term fixes. I'm with you. Let's get together, talk about revenue, talk about spending, put that budget together and put it on the Governor's desk. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Hays."

"Chair recognizes Representative Mautino."

"Thank you. Simply rise in support of the legislation. And just wanted to come back to a couple of the basic facts that are out there. We do have a court decision. The court decision is very, very clear. Ninety-seven percent of the employees of the State of Illinois will not get paid. They will not have a paycheck. They will not have the money to make their rent, buy for their kids, put food on the table and it may continue on. We're talking about a one-month fix where the Governor had options with a lot of the budget Bills, the 27 budget Bills that went to him, he could have signed the budget Bills that are no GRF. All of those people would have been out of the way of collateral damage. He could have 09900071.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 zeroed out everything in there except personal services lines. That's another choice that when we have the hearings in the House we talked to Tim Nuding and he said they considered, but they chose not to do. Those are the words of the budget director. We considered those actions. We told him he could have proposed personal services budget. He chose not to do that. So, we're faced with people who are looking and from what I understand, the bills and the checks are being processed today. Today, tomorrow and the next day. Some of the employees are being paid for work done between the 15th and the 30th and the others are not in that time slot, they will not be receiving any money. This job and our chamber is responsible for creating budgets to keep State Government operating. This does not fund all portions, but it takes essential services… the Majority Leader laid out those programs. Are there others we would like to see? Yes. Are there others that the Governor could have signed, which dealt with federal money or nonappropriated items? Yes. He chose not to do that. What you have before you today is a one-month action which will allow our employees to be paid. Don't worry about the court's decisions, they have no impact. This is an actual personal services budget. It's essential services and it will allow us to go forward, as other Governors have done, when we have hit budget impasses. And this has happened over the past two decades with every Governor and every administration. This is a stopgap measure. It ensures the people get paid. They can put food on their table while we go ahead and try to figure out a budget that works for a 12- month period. Our budget lacked revenue; the Governor's 09900071.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 budget lacked just as much revenue. A difference of a few hundred million dollars on the basis of a 34, 35 billion dollar budget. So, let's pass this. Next week the Senate can send it on to the Governor. I hope that he signs it. And therefore, those thousands of state employees, which were directly affected by a court opinion which you can read, it's out there and it is very clear, will get paid and they will not become collateral damage of a fight that we're having here. Vote 'yes'."

"Chair recognizes Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. I heard a lot coming from the enablers regarding… regarding the fact that the Governor won't sign this Bill. So, what. I mean, we want him to sign the Bill, but our responsibility's to do legislative work. The Governor's in the Executive Branch. He's not even on this floor. He's one floor below us with all those lawyers that haven't taught him how to do an Amendatory Veto or a reduction Veto. We have our own separate responsibility under the Constitution of the State of Illinois, our own separate responsibility. Do you check with the Governor every time you have a Bill to see if he's going to sign it before you run it? I doubt it. I don't. Even if he would talk to me, I don't. So, the… the notion that we're going to give up our responsibilities to the Executive Branch of government violates our oath of office. The Constitution talks about the separation of powers, so be it. We are a separate branch of government and a separate chamber within the Legislative Branch. We have responsibilities. We should fulfill those responsibilities. So, to say you're not going 09900071.docx 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 to vote for this because you think the Governor will veto it is an abdication of your responsibility. Especially, in light of recent history. Some weeks ago the Governor went to the enablers caucus and he said, don't want you to vote for any of the budget Bills especially the Education Bill. And so, in the House and in the Senate, everyone voted 'no' except one brave soul in the Senate who voted 'present'. And then, after he made you all vote 'no' because you abdicated your responsibilities to the Governor, he signed the Bill. And none of you felt like you were thrown under the bus and it was all okay with you and whatever he says is fine. Well, then, maybe we don't need you here. Why don't we fill those seats with 47 pictures of Bruce Rauner and let him decide for all of you how you're going to vote on every Bill. Of course you would not agree to that, but then why do you agree that we should not vote for something simply because the Governor's opposed to it. That's not reasonable. It's not rational. If you want to vote for or against this Bill on its merits, do so. If you don't think state pakers… state workers should be paid for this month, even though you have your own Bill to do that, then don't vote for it. If you don't think that the most vulnerable in Illinois should have a break for the next 30 days while we try to get a budget together and try to get reasonable people to a table… if there are… still are any reasonable people in this building. If you don't think we should do that, then vote 'no'. But don't use the Governor as an excuse. Don't use him as an excuse. Stand up, as Mr. Martwick said, stand up and be honest. Stand up and be counted. You want to be 'yes', be 'yes' because you think 09900071.docx 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 it's the right thing to do. You want to be 'no', be 'no' because you think it's the right thing to do, not the guy on the second floor. Not the guy my friends the enablers who threw you all under the bus. He doesn't care what you think. You're going to be embarrassed. He vetoed a Bill that… he signed a Bill that he told you to vote against and you all like lemmings went ahead and voted against the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our own responsibility. There's something called the Constitution of the State of Illinois. Live with it, breathe with it, follow it and then vote your conscience. That's what we're here for. Vote 'aye'."

"Chair recognizes Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Body for adding all of the information today and of course, Leader Currie doing the very best that she can as a champion to try to push us forward. So, we need a budget. Well, I thought I would say, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget. We need a budget now. Budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget, budget. We need a budget now. Madigan and Cullerton, Radogno and Durkin, we need a budget now. We need a budget now. Budget's on the table. Veto line item, hot issue for us. Veto line item, hot issue for us. Budget's on the table. Veto line item, hot issue for us. Advocates on the sideline cheering us to victory. They are asking only for a compromise. Rauner we're asking only for a compromise."

"Chair recognizes Representative Wehrli." 09900071.docx 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Chair recognizes Representative Sandack. Thank you, Members. Representative Sandack."

"Leader Currie to close."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. We've had a forthright and a lengthy discussion. I think the issue is clear. You either are prepared today to make sure workers get their paychecks during the month of July or you're not. You're prepared today to say that vulnerable, fragile populations will continue to get community-based services or you're not. Whether or not the Governor signs the Bill, our job is to go ahead and give him the opportunity. We know that Governors sometimes say one thing and then they do another. I would hope that if we pass this Bill that we will all encourage the Governor to do the right thing and sign it in its entirety. But as you know, he has options available to him with an Appropriations Bill. If there's some portion of the Bill he wants to sign and not others, he has that option too. So, I urge your 'aye' vote. Let's keep the lights on for the next month. Let's keep state workers with paychecks in their hands and vulnerable people with the services they need to survive. I urge your 'yes' vote."

"Members, Representative Demmer has requested a verification. All Members are asked to be at their seats and vote their switch. The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2040 09900071.docx 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 71 voting 'yes', 19 voting 'no' and 13 voting 'present', Senate Bill 2040, having received the Constitutional Majority… Representative Demmer, would you like to proceed with your verification? Mr. Clerk, please read the names of the affirmative votes."

"Mr. Clerk. Representative Demmer, would you like to proceed?"

"Thank you. Please withdraw the verification. On a count of 71 voting 'yes', 19 voting 'no', 13 voting 'present', Senate Bill 2040, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Davidsmeyer, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Representative, your Motion is out of order. Rule 18(g) provides the method for discharging a Bill from the Rules Committee. The Motion does not comply with the Rule and therefore, is out of order. Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Rule 18(g) provides the method for discharging a Bill from the Rules Committee. Your Motion does not comply with the Rule and therefore, is out of order."

"The entire Rule. Chair recognizes Representative Sandack."

"In accordance with Rule 18(g), rulings of the Presiding Officer related to the subscription… subsection (g) may not be appealed. On page 5 of the Calendar, under House Bills on Second Reading, we have House Bill 697, Representative Bradley. Mr. Clerk… Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Bradley."

"This is the property tax Bill. It's identical to the one last week. It's identical to the Governor's proposal. I'd ask for the adoption of this Amendment."

"Representative Sandack on the Amendment."

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"This is the…"

"It's identical…"

"It's the property tax Amendment, which would freeze property taxes 2016, payable in 2017, preempt Home Rule, would not apply to bonded indebtedness and you could raise property taxes by local referendum."

"It's the same as the one that we moved previously."

"Correct."

"Correct."

"I'm sorry. I didn't hear you."

"I think this is seven."

"I think this is seven."

"I don't know. I don't know."

"We're going to keep trying."

"Well, we haven't…"

"We haven't passed the whole Bill out of the House."

"Any of it."

"I don't know where… I don't know where it stands procedurally. We don't have the votes to pass it yet."

"No."

"Well, I don't know about the second part of your statement, but…"

"Okay."

"I'll come and see you after the vote."

"Representative Tryon on Floor Amendment #1?"

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"It's identical."

"No, that's not correct."

"I've… I've said that before. I didn't happen…"

"I didn't happen to say that this week, but I've said that…"

"…repeated times before. Okay. Go ahead."

"Now… now, Representative, that's not what I said."

"I said I talked to him this week."

"Yeah."

"I didn't say I've never talked to him about it. I was on his work groups. I mean, this has been out there for a long time. This was adequate…"

"…as was adequately pointed out."

"And this is reform."

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Speaker Turner: "The Chair recognizes Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield." Harris, D.: "Representative, in previous attempts there has been also a Floor Amendment #2. Are you going to offer a Floor Amendment #2 to this Bill as well?"

"That's my intention." Harris, D.: "Okay. Thank you very much."

"Chair recognizes Representative Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"So, Representative Bradley, you mentioned that you had not spoken to the Governor about this Bill this week?"

"Correct."

"You have in the past spoken to him about this?"

"Well, there's been discussions ongoing, yes, Representative."

"Okay. Very good. And you know, much has been made of the mockery of the process. And I think there's… there's… there's some truth to what's being said, but I think we have 09900071.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 to look at the whole picture. I'm curious, Leader, did you… did you hold a hearing yesterday in your Revenue Committee?"

"I did."

"What was the subject matter of that hearing?"

"It was a third attempt to get some questions answered about the costs of the Governor's Office."

"And did you invite anyone from the Governor's Office to appear?"

"We did."

"Did any of those people appear?"

"They did not."

"So, they… and these are the salaries that he pays his employees are a subject of our budget, right? Is that not correct? Do we not have to…"

"Part of it."

"…incorporate the money from the… spend it in that way?"

"Part of it. The amount in question would be enough in all likelihood to pay for some of these services we care about."

"And… and yet, no one showed up to… to answer any questions or to speak you about the process?"

"Correct."

"Would you suggest then that perhaps they were making a mockery of your Revenue hearing by not… refusing to show up?"

"I had…"

"Had you invited them before?"

"I tried to avoid the… the charged terminology. And I don't mind a fight, but I try to stay away from those kinds 09900071.docx 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 of charged words. I… I respect the process. I respect the fact that Abraham Lincoln's on that wall and Stephen Douglas is on that wall. And they served in this chamber. And I felt it was disrespectful to ignore the Revenue & Finance Committee."

"As it is the job of this Body to oversee and provide checks and balances to the spending of the Executive. That is our duty. Is it not?"

"That's one of our duties."

"It's interesting, Representative, because even though I don't sit on the Labor Committee, I saw that the Labor Committee meeting was… was meeting in advance of our regular Session yesterday. And so, I left home early… I skipped work. And I came down here because my understanding was we were going to have a subject matter meeting on the issues of workers' comp. And to me, my understanding is that's a seminal issue of the reforms that this Governor wants to make and yet, no one from the Governor's Office appeared to talk to us about workers' compensation. And for the life of me, I don't understand how I'm supposed to agree to reforms if no one from the Governor's Office will come and answer questions about what he wants done."

"I'd rather just focus on this Bill, but I appreciate your point."

"I agree. And you know, I… I know things are charged here today. I want to just take a moment since my name has been used. I know I get a little emotional at times and perhaps I got a little too emotional when I spoke the first time, so I apologize. And to Representative Tryon, I 09900071.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 appreciate your offer. I think these are the things that we need to work on. And when you ask am I ready to enact reforms, the answer is yes. Yes, I am. What I would tell you is, is that there has to be some compromise. And you know, I think that there's been a lack of understanding that because the Governor's proposed reforms, that they must be right. There are many of us who disagree with those reforms, but perhaps if we talked, obviously as you just did, we will find some middle ground. Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Demmer."

"Representative Bradley to close."

"I'd ask for the adoption of this Amendment."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 697. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 45 voting 'yes', 09900071.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 24 voting 'no' and 34 voting 'present', Floor Amendment #1 is adopted to House Bill 697. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Bradley."

"This is Amendment #2. This is opportunity to vote for reforms. This is the collective bargaining prevailing wage portion of the Governor's proposal. It's identical to the language that was put forth by the Governor. And I do not support this, but I think it's worthy and that we should have a vote."

"On the Amendment, we have Representative David Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A question of the Sponsor?"

"The Spontner… Sponsor indicates that he will yield." Harris, D.: "Normally, when someone… when a Legislator puts forth a proposal, be it a Bill or Amendment, they tend to vote for their own Amendment. Are you saying you are not going to vote for this?"

"Correct." Harris, D.: "Why are you again putting it forward?"

"To allow the other Members that may not feel the way that I do to vote for it." Harris, D.: "In the past, how many positive votes has this Amendment gotten?"

"I don't think it's gotten any." Harris, D.: "But it is the exact same language of what the Governor wants." 09900071.docx 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Yes." Harris, D.: "Thank you."

"The Chair recognizes Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Amendment. I think the prior speaker just made a very important point. The Governor has said that he wishes to have reforms before he will sign the budget. And I get that. And I… and I be… and I agree with him on property tax relief. The Amendment that we just voted on, the prior Amendment, had 47 votes. Certainly not enough to get the 60 votes that we would need to start next year. I think there's been a new proposal by the Governor. There'd be a two-year freeze and I'd like to see that Bill come up on to the… on to the board 'cause I think that might get more votes. So, I'd like to see that Bill come up because I think that would happen and I think that would help move the ball forward. But the previous speaker had indicated that this had gotten no votes, this House Amendment #2, because it deals with things that I… that don't go to the heart of the problem with property taxes. Right now, the biggest driver of property taxes, when you flip over your bill, is the school funding. So, instead of dealing with the peripheral issue, if the Governor wishes to have something tied to property tax relief, my respectful suggestion would be to change how we fund schools and make a more fair funding of schools. So, instead of those in the collar counties paying some of the highest property taxes in the entire nation, that we fix a broken school funding formula that needs to be blown up. So, my suggestion would be to bring another property tax Bill with the Governor's two-year freeze. Then, I'd also like to see an 09900071.docx 134  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 Amendment to see where people are on the prop… on the school funding because I think we've beat this one to death, Amendment #2. No one on the other side of the aisle has stepped forward to file this Amendment or to carry this Amendment. I wish you would 'cause that way we could have an honest vote on it. And then when it fails, we can say it failed because we all know that Amendment #2, no matter who carries it, will fail. So, let's quit pretending that this is somehow tied to… so we can go forward and move a budget. So, I'd ask if anyone on that side of the aisle today is prepared to carry this Amendment and argue it, if they really believe that this Amendment ought to be passed and there are some that do, please step forward and I'm sure John will sign it over to you so we can have a real debate on it. So, we can have the vote right now. Because I'm really tired of it getting zero votes every time and then the other side saying, well, this isn't real because we didn't carry it. Blah, blah, blah. Enough. Let's have the vote on this. Let's work forward on the property tax stuff, but let's quit playing these games. So, if anyone has the ability on that side to step up and carry it, now is your time. Let's at least move this forward today. We get it off the table at least we're moving forward. So, please, if anyone wants to do it stand up. Otherwise, we know it's going to get zero votes again and we're going to be doing the same thing next week. It's insane. So, let's talk. Let's get together. Let's put together a Bill that will pass. Let's do a two-year freeze. Let's talk about changing how we fund education. And let's move forward." 09900071.docx 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015

"Representative Lang in the Chair. Mr. Kay is recognized."

"Sponsor yields."

"We're going to have a vote on this Amendment and see what happens."

"Well, I gave you the best answer I could."

"This is… we're going to have a vote on this Amendment."

"Yes."

"I'm the one on the floor here calling the Bill, calling these Amendments, answering your questions."

"I don't use those words."

"I don't reflect those words."

"I… I report to the people of the district that I represent and their support… they're in su…"

"No, that's not true, Dwight."

"I report…"

"I report to the 110 thousand people that I represent in southern Illinois just like the 110 thousand people. They want property tax reform. They're not for prevailing wage and collective bargaining, but they also want a budget. These have been put out as conditions of getting the budget done. We're going to keep voting on it. That's my decision."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Mr. Bradley to close."

"I'm not going to respond to some of the things that were said because they're not worthy of this chamber and they're not worthy of response. We answer to the people that elect us. We answer for our votes. You could try to explain these votes away however you want to and you could make statements that the passing of a budget is conditioned upon doing things and get the opportunity to do those things and then choose not to. You can talk about reform and then when 09900071.docx 138  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 71st Legislative Day 7/9/2015 you had the opportunity to get the reform that you asked for even though some of us don't personally support it, you can make reasons why you did it. But the truth of the matter is, is that we keep voting on this because this was made a condition of doing a budget and we don't have a budget. This was made a condition of doing the budget and we don't have a budget. So, you vote your conscience and you answer to the 110 thousand people that vote for you and we'll see what the voters think about the decisions that are being made here today. I'd vote this down, but you vote your conscience."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will vote 'yes'; opposed will vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? One more time. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there's 1 voting 'yes', 78 voting 'no', 26 voting 'present'. And the Amendment fails. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. And now, leaving perfunctory time for the Clerk, pursuant to House Joint Resolution 85, the House will adjourn until Wednesday, July 15 at the hour of 12 noon or until the call of the Speaker. The House is adjourned." 09900071.docx 139