Illinois House Floor Debate — April 14, 2016

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Pastor Arthurine Wilkinson, who is with Manifested Glory 09900117.docx 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 International Ministries in Riverdale. Pastor Wilkinson is the guest of Representative Jones. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Wilkinson."

"Be led in the Pledge by Representative Scherer."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect the excused absences of Representatives Monique Davis, Jones and Lilly."

"Mr. Brown."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 115 Members answering the roll, we do have a quorum. The Chair recognizes Mr. Pritchard."

"Go right ahead, Sir."

"Welcome to the Capitol. Thank you for being in the House chamber. Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Start with the first one."

"Welcome to the House. We're happy you're here with us today. Go ahead, Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Thank you very much. Ladies and Gentlemen, we’re going back to working on priority Bills that you have in an alphabetical fashion, roughly. But first we'll hear from the Clerk."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we're going to start with Bills on the Order of Second Reading. Please follow along if you can, roughly alphabetically. First Bill is House Bill 5763, Representative Ammons. Representative Ammons. Out of the record. House Bill 5402, Representative Acevedo. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6332, Mr. Beiser. Out of the record. House Bill 4552, Mr. Andersson. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6129, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1290, Leader Currie. Leader Currie. Leader Currie. Leader Currie, House Bill 1290. Out of the record. Thank you. House Bill 4240, Representative Flowers. Representative Flowers. Out of the record. House Bill 4372, Mr. Andersson. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 167, Representative Flowers. Out of the record. House Bill 4954, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford on the Amendment."

"The Amendment 1 to House Bill 4954 takes away all opposition. And it simply states that immediate sealing waivers will be the only time that fees will be waived."

"Mr. Sandack on the Amendment."

"Proceed."

"My Amendment removes all opposition. Thank…"

"Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5762, Representative Harper. Please read the Bill."

"That Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading, Representative, to wait for the answers to those 09900117.docx 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 note requests. House Bill 6324, Representative Anthony. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 972, Mr. Harris. Out of the record. House Bill 4351, Mr. Harris. Out of the record. House Bill 5104, Mr. Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4872, Mr. Cabello. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6225, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 6130, Representative Hurley. Out of the record. House Bill 4377, Representative Mayfield. Representative Mayfield. Out of the record. House Bill 6009, Representative Hays. Mr. Hays. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hays. Nice going, guys. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 1191, Representative McAsey. Representative McAsey. Out of the record. House Bill 5910, Representative Moeller. Representative Moeller. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 5910 is a cleanup Bill. It def… it updates the titles of Federal Law enforcement agencies that are able to operate as peace officers within the State of Illinois. With Floor Amendment #1, this is an agreed-to Bill and there is no known opposition. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4425, Mr. Pritchard. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Pritchard on the Amendment." 09900117.docx 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5703, Mr. Phelps. Mr. Phelps. Out of the record. House Bill 6162, Mr. Skoog. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5918, Mr. Thapedi. Mr. Thapedi, 5918. Out of the record. House Bill 887, Representative Williams. Out of the record. House Bill 4388, Mr. Wehrli. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Chair recognizes Representative Ives. For what reason do you rise?"

"Please go right ahead."

"Congratulations. Welcome to the Illinois House of Representatives. Well, before we hit the gong, Mr. Sommer is recognized."

"Go ahead, Sir

"Congratulations on your success. Thank you for being with us today. Now Ladies and Gentleman, we move to Third Reading Bills. House Bill 682, Mr. Bradley. Mr. Bradley. Out of the record. Sorry, Sir, I didn’t see you. Do you want it out of the record? Okay, thank you. House Bill 3982, Representative Kelly Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." 09900117.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can you give me a moment? Can you take this out of the record for a moment?"

"Out of the record. House Bill 5884, Representative Cloonen. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Cloonen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5884 is an initiative of our local county treasurer and it allows for county treasurers to invest in not-for-profit institutions, which reinvest back into the community. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4645, Mr. Butler. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Butler."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6163, Mr. Crespo. Mr. Crespo. Out of the record. House Bill 538, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Fine."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill's the result of an eighth grade social studies project. A middle school in my district has been studying the State Constitution in the state's history. Through their studies, they learned that the State of Illinois does not have an official artifact. They researched state history and decided a canoe called the pirogue, or a dugout, would honor and represent our state's rich history, and especially our first residents, the Native American population. A pirogue is a narrow canoe that was built by the Illini by hollowing out a tree stump. And they can be up to 50 feet long. The Illini and other Native American tribes in Illinois built and used these boats to navigate Illinois waterways. They were so resourceful in the design of this canoe that forms of the pirogue are still used today. It was also used by Lewis and Clark navigating North American waterways. A pirogue as our state artifact would keep alive and honor the history and culture of the Illini 09900117.docx 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 who inhabited our state. By establishing this as our state artifact it will help preserve our resourceful path."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Right. It was built by the Illini, the Native American tribe, and once they started building it, it was used, really, all over the world."

"It is a type of canoe and it is on the… the State Museum website. I cannot tell you if there is one at the State Museum."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1437, Mr. Franks. Mr. Franks. Please read the Bill." 09900117.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to thank Elgie Sims for his help on this Bill as well as Al Riley. And I don't know if anyone from the Illinois State Police is here, but we worked very closely with them for a year on this Bill. And it came through committee as well as ICJIA. And this Bill will create the Criminal Diversion Racial Impact Data Collection Act. And the reason why we're doing that is because racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal justice system continue to persist in Illinois and throughout the United States. And this Bill will give state officials and the public information and the tools necessary to try to solve that problem. And the overrepresentation of certain minority groups compared with the representation, the general population, has been well documented, along with the harmful effects of such disproportionate representation. So in order to make progress in reducing this harmful phenomenon, information on the racial composition of offenders at each stage of the criminal justice system must be systematically gathered and analyzed so that a foundation can be placed for determining the effectiveness of any proposed remedy. And that's what this Bill will do. Because gaps of information at any stage will hamper valid analysis at subsequent stages. In the earliest stages of the criminal process systematic statewide information on arrested persons, including race and ethnicity, is collected in the State Police criminal history record information system. However, information on the racial 09900117.docx 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 and ethnic composition of a… of adults that are diverted from arrest by law enforcement in each county's state's attorney office is not available. The Act does five specific things which you can see in your analysis. It's our intent with this legislation to provide a mechanism by which statewide data on the race and ethnicity of offenders diverted from the system before the filing of a court case can be provided for future racial disparity impact analysis on the criminal justice system. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Gentleman yield?"

"The Gentleman yields."

"Representative, this… the Amendment that I'm reading says this would create the Criminal Diversion Racial Impact Data. So you're collecting data?"

"Yes, Ma'am."

"Now what about the data that's already been collected in regards to the stops, and what about the data that's being collected in regards to the Bill that we just passed?"

"This will su…"

"What about… what about the data?"

"This will supplement that. There was some gaps that were not included…"

"Well, you… you know what I think. And… and please forgive me. I know this is not my Bill, and you didn’t ask me what should be in it, but what about what's causing all of this disparity and the discrimination. Where is the conversation in regards to why is it that African Americans are disproportionately…" 09900117.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"I agree…"

"…locked up, African Americans are disproportionately stopped? You know why is all… why, why, why? Where is that conversation, to me, because if we could get to the root and have some type of understanding and get the fear factor out of racism… and let's call it what it is, fear and ignorance… how do we address that problem? Because we have the numbers. We have…"

"We don’t have all the…"

"…the facts."

"We don’t have it all, though. What this does… and I agree with you, 100 percent of what you're talking about. And we have to get to the why. We have to get to the why. This Bill is filling in gaps that the other Bills hasn’t… haven’t done and… about people who have not been arrested. And we're talking about stops. This will help. We need to collect the data. I don’t have the answer right now, why. I wish I did. I don't know if you do."

"But I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, I think that's the problem. I'm not a number, I'm not a number. And I'm not…"

"I… I understand."

"…I'm not… I'm not saying that you are saying that I'm a number…"

"Right."

"…but when you factor in that what you're collecting is data and not understanding the reason why, why did that person stop me or for what reason did he or she disrespect me or violate my rights?" 09900117.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"I want to find that out too."

"And so, I… but… but you will not find out with data. And where… what’s happening with the data that's already collected?"

"Well, this was…"

"What has changed and what has…"

"This…"

"…made it better?"

"I… I…"

"And how would this make it better?"

"Well, I think this will help because it'll get additional data, as I had talked about and the reasons for it. And this is supported by a number of groups that believe this will help. The Cook County Public Defender, the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority, the ACLU. I've worked with the State Police. I've worked on… I've worked with the groups together to come to… they thought this would be a much more comprehensive way to get to those questions that you're asking. And we need to find a solution because it's an epidemic. It is…"

"It is…"

"…epidemic. And it's wrong."

"I… I agree, I agree. It is epidemic. It is wrong, and it is… it has caused generation upon generation…"

"Yes."

"…of lives to be destroyed."

"Absolutely."

"…And I understand and I respect what it is, what… that you're trying to do. But I guess what I… when I see a mother's 09900117.docx 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 face in the newspaper or over the news or read the story and you see the tears and you… you… I just don’t understand, why is it that we haven’t acted on the data that has been collected and is just sitting there? And where in your legislation does it demand or require something to be done…"

"Well…"

"…in regards to the racial disparity, in regards to education, health care…"

"I agree."

"…driving, walking, breathing…"

"I agree."

"…while black?"

"Some… I agree. But we need to have the tools in order to force this. And… and it may not be a legislative remedy, Mary. It may have to be organic because you… you see we're getting a new police chief in Chicago. You know, hopefully that individual can… can help move this along."

"No… no, no, no. I… I think it's… that I will never put that responsibility on one person."

"I agree."

"Because this…"

"It's collective."

"…is an inherent perk. This is an inherent problem and we have to go way back to the beginning, and it's not about him. His… his job is not to eradicate racism. His job is to stop the crime. But we have… we have a responsibility because we know racism is alive and well."

"All over the state." 09900117.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"And all we want to do is talk about the numbers, but I want to talk about the issues. I want to talk about the disparities in regards to education. I want to talk about the lead. I want to talk about the food. I want to talk about the poor housing. I want to talk about it, but now you're just reducing me to a number."

"No, I'm not."

"Don’t do that."

"I… it's not the intention at all. And you ought to be a Hillary delegate 'cause you are on fire on all those issues."

"I am a Hillary…"

"Good. I'm glad…"

"…or was, I'm sorry."

"…to hear that. All right."

"Mr. Speaker… thank you very much. I appreciate my colleague indulging me in this conversation. This is a very serious conversation; this is a very serious Bill. And add me to your… your Bill so I can make sure that I am more than a number. And I would like to have something to say about the data that's collected."

"We want you."

"Thank you."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, it's very noisy in the chamber. Can we hold it down, please? We heard you though, Mary. Don’t worry. But we… we need to keep it down because the next speaker needs to be heard. The Chair recognizes Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields." 09900117.docx 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"No. I… I've met with the groups and… and this… they told me that the legislation was necessary. This… this was a… an effort that had been amended, and it was necessary."

"Oh, I know."

"Right."

"Right, I'm not offended."

"Right. I agree."

"It's… it’s a very valid question and I would have asked the same one."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Jack, why CJIA for this?"

"I'm sorry. For them to collect the…" 09900117.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Yeah. So CJIA is a predominantly a grant writing agency and… my… my understanding historically of this agency is they are deter… are taxed with taking applications for grants and analyzing them, and then deciding, well, who gets the grants. And their executive director's very skilled. And this seems to be a data collection Bill that would seem more up the alley of SPAC."

"Well, when I met with them, they helped draft the Bill and they had actually requested, and they met with the ISP as well. So I let those guys figure out who should be the… who should be the collector. And it was… it’s my understanding that's their agreement."

"Okay. My… my concern is now we have two different agencies, or state bodies, politics dealing with data collection and disseminating data. And we’re all of the opinion that data is crucial here; we need to be data driven. And yet we have another Bill that flows data into a different direction then a previous established entity that's supposed to be collecting the data and analyzing the data."

"Well, should… if we need to, Mike, we can amend it in the Senate and maybe have a dual reporting."

"Okay. Or I'll…"

"I want to make sure we get it to the right place. I… I've never heard that. This is the first time I'm hearing that criticism. So…"

"Okay."

"…if it needs to be changed, we can do that."

"Yeah. I… I'll just ask you to… I'll… I'll reach out to the executive director of CJIA and find out why that's the 09900117.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 case. But it just… it just seems to me that we have a lot of pots in the fire these days, which is a good thing. We want people to be analyzing the data, but I just… struggle with yet another statute directing the flow of information and… and tasks to another state agency, especially one where CJA has been traditionally put under a lot of pressure to do things in… in short timeline and… and I worry about their resource level. But I appreciate you talking to the Senate about that, and I plan to support your Bill."

"Thank you. We can talk after if we need to make any changes."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Will this data identify who the officers are? Will this data identify who the officers are? So… but they're going to track the number, but will it identify who it was making the stop or the arrest?"

"I don’t believe it's broken down by officer."

"Okay. So if it’s not going to identify who is doing this, so right… as… as Representative so eloquently stated about just collecting the number of individuals who are arrested or released, and what their racial or ethnic group is. If it’s not going to track officers as well as who they're even reporting to, then how can we actually use this data to intervene in dismantling the systemic racism and sexism that we see happening?"

"Well, I think you have to look at it in the aggregate. And I think there's outliers who will also allow those… those 09900117.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 individual parties… agencies to look at that. I mean, I think they're looking at that internally as well. But I'm… we're asking for the data in the aggregate, but I think it'll also make them look at this in case there are any outliers."

"So I would really like to support to this Bill. I actually want to be on this Bill. I'm wondering if we would be able to work as it moves over into the Senate to talk about, how do we pair that data? How do we look at who the officers are? How do we look at intervening with them? We just passed a Bill that will now require cultural competency training and understanding implicit bias. So I'm wondering, how can we make this have the teeth that Rep… the former Representative was speaking of?"

"I'm happy to work with you on that. We can meet afterwards and… and we'll talk to the Senate Sponsor. I've asked… Mr. Sims and I are going to talk to the Senate Sponsor and I'll have you involved."

"All right. Well, as a daughter of an officer, I appreciate you bringing this forward. I think it's a great piece a legislation. And I encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Franks, if you wish to close, you may."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please record yourselves. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, 09900117.docx 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5619, Representative Gabel. Representative Gabel. Out of the record. House Bill 5522, Representative Ives. Please read the Bill. Apparently there's an Amendment, Representative. We'll move the Bill back to the Order of Second Reading for your Amendment. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill on the Order of Second Reading."

"Representative Ives."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6084, Representative Kifowit. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Kifowit."

"Thank you, Speaker. This Bill is a cleanup Bill. It is agreed on by the veterinarian association. It's also agreed on by the animal control organizations. And it's primarily 09900117.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 resolving how an animal is… how an animal is quarantined with regards to animal bites."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Bellock."

"Please proceed."

"Thank you. And thank you for all of your hard work. Chair recognizes Representative Bryant. For what reason do you rise?" 09900117.docx 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Please proceed."

"Thank you. We're glad you're with us today. House Bill 5808, Representative Manley. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Manley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 5808 is a Bill that's kind of expounds upon one that we passed last Session. It adds Members of the General Assembly to the Unmanned Aerial System Oversight Task Force. How's that? Anyway, Members of the General Assembly who will ultimately bring legislation to address some of the issues. We thought… I thought that would be a good idea if we were involved. And I'll take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 115 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5898, 5898, Representative Moeller. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 5898 allows organizations… businesses to incorporate as a cooperative. Under current legislation, only manufacturing and retail-type businesses are able to form cooperatives. This would open the opportunity to all types of businesses to form as a cooperative in Illinois. Be happy to take any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4658, Representative Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. Out of the record. House Bill 1380, Mr. Phelps. Mr. Phelps, 1380. Out of the record. House Bill 6037, Representative Reaves-Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Reaves-Harris."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bills… House Bill 6037 amends the Code of Correction by adding that the court may consider the defendant's initial illness as a factor in mitigation at sentencing. Our… under current law, when a defendant is being sentenced, the court must consider evidence and information offered by the parties in agro… aggravation and mitigation. The factors admit aggravation are considered as reasons to oppose a more severe sentencing, 09900117.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 while the factors of mitigation are considered as reasons in favor of withholding… withholding or minimizing a sentence of imprisonment. HB6037 adds that the court may also consider in mitigation information that, at the time of the offense, the defendant was suffering from a serious mental illness, which through insufficient to… which, though insufficient to establish the defense of insanity, substantially effected his or… his or her ability to understand the nature of his or her acts, or to confirm… to conform his or… or her conden… conduct to the requirements of the law. This is a… Bill is an initiative of the Mental Health American… an initiative of the Mental Health America of Illinois. I will answer any questions, but I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor will yield."

"Correct."

"Absolutely. It… I just want to be clear. This is not directive, this is permissive that the judge could order that the parties conducting a hearing to do an evidentiary hearing to make a determination as to whether or not the defendant's mental capacity or illness was sufficient to 09900117.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 establish that. I mean, in the language it's pretty clear: substantially effect his or her ability to understand the nature of his or her acts, or to conform his or her conduct to the requirement of the law. So, it would require just any… like in any other proceeding, an evidentiary hearing to determine whether or not the judge wants to consider it."

"It's permissive."

"They can. It's just that with the number of individuals that are currently being incarcerated, we know that over six thousand individuals are currently incarcerated who are suffering from mental illness."

"To… to codify it."

"We want to make sure that it’s codified specifically in the law, that the judges know that this is clear, that that's something that they can take in consid… into consideration in mitigating. They don’t have to; they can. And again, I think the… the law is pretty limiting in that it's… it specifically requires it and has to substantially effect his or her ability to understand their… their behavior. So again, I think this is a really good Bill 09900117.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 because again, we know how many people are currently incarcerated that is suffering from a…"

"…mental illness."

"I'm sorry. I didn’t understand that."

"Yes. We don’t have the death penalty here. So I would assume that if we would…"

"What I'm being told is if there was a range of offenses that they… in which they could deci… could decide and they could… would take… be able to take this into consideration."

"This would be applicable across the board."

"Yes."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 48 voting 'yes', 65 voting 'no'. Chair recognizes Representative Reaves-Harris."

"Make a Motion for Postponement of Consideration." 09900117.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"The Bill will be placed on the Order of Postponed Consideration. Leader Currie is recognized."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representative Hurley is excused for the remainder of the day."

Speaker Lang: "Thank you, Representative. Mr. Moffitt is recognized. For what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Please go right ahead."

"Thank you for joining us today. Representative Hammond is recognized."

"Thank you, Representative. House Bill 49… excuse me, 4595, Mr. Riley. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Riley." 09900117.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. A few years ago, we passed the… a great Bill which helped to mitigate foreclosures in the state. And that Bill was 96-1245. That Bill sunsetted at the beginning of this year, the federal program goes all the way to the end of this year. So what House Bill 4595 endeavors to do is just extend that sunset to the end of the year, December 31, 2016, to make it congruent with the federal program."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6245, Mr. Rita. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 6245 makes a technical change to the Real Estate Licensure Act in dealing with their continuing education of six hours before renewing their license. Basically what it says is that they could do all that in one day versus in two days. And it doesn’t apply to brokers."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 09900117.docx 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 declared passed. House Bill 4330, Representative Barbara Wheeler. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wheeler."

Speaker Lang: "Those in favor… Excuse me. Mr. Davis is recognized." Davis, W.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield." Davis, W.: "So, Representative, is… so if they take this as two years of foreign language, so you're talking about when students apply and universities say, we ask you for four years of this, three years of that, two years of that. So this would qualify for the foreign requirement that universities ask for when students apply to those universities." 09900117.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6060, Mr. Rita. Mr. Rita. Out of the record. House Bill 5613, Mr. Sims. Mr. Sims. Out of the record. You wish to proceed, Sir? I did not see you. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Mr. Speaker, I think there was another Amendment?"

"Mr. Clerk, is there a pending Amendment?"

"Okay."

"Mr. Sims, your Bill is still in Rule… your Amendment's still in Rules. You want to take this Bill out of the record?"

"Take the… take the Bill out of the record, Mr. Speaker. Thank you." 09900117.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 4983, Representative Soto. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Members of the House. House Bill 4983 amends the School Code, establishes the State Global Scholars Certification Program to be recognized in public high school graduates who have attained global competence sufficient for meaningful use in college and career. Provides that the school districts… participation in this certi… certification is voluntary. It sets forth the purpose of certification, requires the State Board of Education to adopt such rules that may be necessary to establish a criteria that students must achieve to earn this cert… certification. I have 10 reasons to support this certificate: The Illinois Global Scholars recognizes students who have attained global skill and competences; it improves problem solving communication and cultural re… responsiveness; it provides opportunities to think critically about issues and concerns that impact human beings around the world; it creates first hand opportunities to collaborate with classrooms around the world; encourages student's proficiency in foreign languages; deepens student's empathy for global issues and understanding of… of diversity; helps students anticipate how global trends and events will impact sectors such as manufacturing, agriculture and agribusiness… agrobusiness; sharpens 21st century to keep career success and extend health and business; creates a global workforce that will make Illinois the ideal 09900117.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 choice for pouring investments. I urge an 'aye' vote and I'm open for any questions. Thank…"

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, this sounds like a fantastic Bill and is very interesting because our world is really getting smaller. And it says that the school district would be able to choose whether or not to offer the Global Scholar Certificate Program."

"Yes."

"So for instance, let’s talk about the Chi… is this a statewide Bill?"

"This is a state Bill."

"Okay. So would Chicago, if Chicago district chooses to have such a program, would this be in all of the schools in the district?"

"This is a voluntary, you know, choice of the school districts."

"Okay. So it’s up to Chica…"

"So it’s not mandated. It’s not a mandated Bill."

"Okay. And so, in order to… the global teachers, will they… will they be… will these teachers be certified educators?"

"Correct. So… so, let me interrupt for a minute, Representative Flowers. This is a Bill that we, ourselves… I know that in my… in my… in the city of Chicago, I'm going to be talking to the city; I'm going to be talking to the mayor; I'm going to be talking to CPS to encourage to support this 09900117.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 because this is… this is something that's really popular right now."

"I… I agree with you. And like I said, the world is really a smaller place. And so, it’s in our… all of our best interests to have a respect for other ethnicity and languages and countries and different things like that. My concern is the properly trained teachers. Will they be trained and credentialed to teach this? Because there is problems especially in Chicago schools, about properly trained and credentialed teachers."

"So there is not a training component right now. So it’s up to the district to maybe put something in training for the teachers. And it’s something that I will be working closely with on since I'm supporting this Bill, since…"

"Okay."

"…I'm the Sponsor of the Bill."

"Well, that's… that’s my biggest concern, that they be credentialed and trained to teach this, not just put a symbol or some type of certificate on the graduation diploma. Thank you very much."

"Thank… thank you."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Yes, Sir."

"Sponsor yields."

"This Bill is permissive, and it's also going to require ISBE to… to develop the rules."

"Okay. So… so ISBE's going to require this from the schools."

"No, no, no, no, no. Not… not an… it's not a mandate."

"So it's permissive for the schools."

"Representative Soto to close."

"Thank you. I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you." 09900117.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, 106 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Sims."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege?"

"You may proceed."

"Mr. Speaker, in the gallery behind the Democratic side of the aisle we have the… the lovely… lovely ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha Xi Nu Omega Chapter here visiting us from Springfield. They're here on behalf of the Alph… Alzheimer's Day. Let’s give them a warm, Springfield welcome."

"Welcome. Happy you're here with us. Thank you. House Bill 5556, Representative Soto. Representative, don’t go too far. Representative Soto, next Bill. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Soto."

"Yes. House Bill 5556 amends the Chicago School District Article of the School Code. It provides that no later than July 1, 2016, rather than January 1, 2016, and every five years thereafter, the chief executive officer of the district and his or her designee shall prepare a… and submit a public comment a draft revised Educational Facility Master Plan."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 09900117.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5665, Representative Winger. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Winger."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Unes."

"You may proceed." 09900117.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Thank you for being with us. Welcome. House Bill 4964, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is a Bill about transparency. It simply state that those who are seeking to close hospital facilities should inform the media outlets in the area and hold a public hearing in the same area in which that facility will be closed. I do encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 114 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6009, Mr. Hays. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hays."

"Brief explanation, Sir."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Resolution 1022, Mr. Thapedi. Out of the record. House Bill 4536, Mr. Walsh. Mr. Walsh. Out of the record. House Bill 4445, Mr. Welch. Please read the Bill. We understand you have an Amendment, Sir? Gentleman moves that we move the Bill back to Second Reading for purpose of that Amendment. Please do so, Mr. Clerk and read the Bill."

"Mr. Welch."

"Mr. Speaker, I move that we adopt House Floor Amendment #1. This Bill is… the Amendment was done to comply with requests by Illinois State Police. And it does not have any opposition."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk." 09900117.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Third Reading. HJR 139, Mr. Zalewski. Mr. Zalewski. Please proceed, Sir."

"Mr. Speaker. House Joint Resolution 139 asks the Department of Public Health to undertake study about what we consider discontinuation of medications. There exists an issue, and I don't know if the Body's aware of it, where patients can receive multiple medication prescriptions, multiple doctors could be prescribing, and there's not coordinated effort in our medical system to discontinue prescriptions. So, in an area of opioid abuse and heroin abuse, we need to have a better grip on how we go about communicating as a health system. And we're asking the Department of Public Health to undertake that study. I would ask for 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Resolution will vote 'yes'; opposed vote 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And the Resolution is adopted. Representative Kelly Burke, House Bill 3982. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thanks, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3982 is an initiative of the Department of Healthcare and Family Services Child Support Advisory Committee. After several years of study and hearings, the committee recommended moving Illinois from 09900117.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 guideline percentage of income for calculating child support to a system used in 39 other states known as 'income shares'. The income shares' method seeks to provide consistency and fairness in establishing child support orders and looks to the needs of the children in setting those support obligations. It considers both parent's incomes when determining awards. Each parent is responsible for his or her prorated share of the cost of raising their child. It's more comprehensive and flexible than the current percentage of income method. Because it looks to the cost of raising a child, the income shares' method may be more beneficial in making awards for low- and moderate-income families. Better compliance is one of the hallmarks of this system. They've seen it in other states that there's more compliance with the child support orders. Studies have shown that parents who pay child support are more likely to be involved with their child. The Bill includes some innovations. Currently, Illinois is one of five states that does not have a low-income adjustment. The Bill contains a provision that if a pair or a parent's income is at or less than poverty guidelines, then the award is $40 per child for a maximum of $120 per month. In addition, the Bill includes a rebuttable presumption that a parent who is incarcerated, institutionalized, or has a medically proven disability is unable to pay that $40 and a zero child support order will be entered. The Bill is supported by HFS, the Illinois State Bar Association, the Shriver Law and Poverty Center, the Illinois Attorney General. I welcome any questions and ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Flowers." 09900117.docx 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Lady yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, thank you very much for bringing this Bill to my attention. And we had some conversations about it. I still have a few concerns, and if you would just indulge me for a moment." Burke, K.: "Sure."

"So under current law, the court must determine the minimum amount of child support based on percentage rate." Burke, K.: "Percent… net percentage of the obligors net income."

"And under your Bill, what would be the difference, please? You would be…" Burke, K.: "So, the… the method is different…"

"I'm sorry. Let me go back to the first…" Burke, K.: "Sure."

"…question. So under the current law, it is percentage of the parent… one parent's income." Burke, K.: "Correct."

"Under your Bill, you would be taking in consideration both parent's income?" Burke, K.: "What it takes into consideration is it looks at the cost of raising a child or children. There's an economic study that’s been done that the department has. So the economic study looks at what the cost of raising a child is and then the… the court would look at what each parent's income is and assign that share of the cost of raising a child to each parent. And I think in the examples that I showed you, where it was… we… we ran some scenarios of people who were of relatively modest means. I think what those models showed you 09900117.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 was that especially for people at the lower end of the income scale, that this method can actually generate some… a modest amount of additional income for the parent who has primary responsibility for the child. Generally, I mean, if we want to talk mom, dad, generally the mom."

"So, factor… taking in consideration what you just said, there's a possibility that the income may go up because you're factoring in the mom's income. And… and factoring in the mom's income…" Burke, K.: "So, this…"

"…because you're… the main factor is the cost of raising the child." Burke, K.: "So under ea… so under the current method, Representative, the… I… I think… so, whatever money is allocated to the mother through a child support order is going to be additional monies that she has available. The same would be true under this aspect. So either way, money will be flowing to that additional to… additional money will be flowing to that parent. That… that remains the same. The only aspect that's changing in this Bill is the way the court calculates how much money the mom gets."

"And I'm trying to figure… that's… that’s the point that I'm trying to figure out. Why is it that this Bill is important as far as changing the method of the calculation? Because it appears to me that what this Bill would do would put the mom, depending on… at the lower economic status, in jeopardy of losing other benefits that she would be entitled to because you are factoring in her income, and you are 09900117.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 calculating in what he or she may be paying for child support." Burke, K.: "I… I think you may possibly be mixing two separate issues. This Bill only calculates the amount of support that is due to… to a parent who has primary responsibility for the child. Depending on what the income scenarios of the families are, I mean, obviously every single case is different. In some cases, it may result… this method may result in a higher child support order for… for that parent. In other cases, it may be exactly the same as this… as the current system. And in other cases, it may end up that they… you know, that there is a little bit less. It all depends on the exact income situations of both of the parents. So, it is hard to make a blanket statement, but if someone is receiving additional monies from the other parent in child support, I guess I don’t see how that's a bad thing."

"It's not a bad thing. The fact of the matter is that as the mother that’s responsible for the child, I am taking care of my child already. My life, my house, my… everything that involves a child. And finally, you may have… maybe my ex, you may have just gotten a job or whatever, and now he's finally paying child support. The problem that I don’t understand, and it should be based on the percentage of his income as to what he pays, not factoring in both of our incomes…" Burke, K.: "So… so…"

"…because I have other responsibilities."

"Ladies… Representatives, we're going to wait 'til we can hear each other talk and then you can continue this. And I'll just wait as long as necessary. Please proceed." 09900117.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 Burke, K.: "So… so Representative, I… I think this Bill doesn’t… has nothing to do with what income levels are for other services that a family might be eligible for. It only deals with… with the distribution of the family's resources to best raise their child. And in some instances it may end up, under this formula, that a custodial parent gets more money, a slight big more money per month than the… than they would have under the old system. In some cases, it may be a wash and in some cases, they may receive less. It all depends on the very specific instances. I did give you a worksheet, kind of showing you how they calculate it and…"

"That worksheet really did not, with all due respect, it really did not make any sense to me. Because again, I'm… let me just read and I'll… I'll be brief and take my seat, Mr. Speaker, after this. In regards to the duty of the support, the court must award child support by applying the guidelines established by HFS unless the court finds that the applicant would be… the application would be inappropriate after considering the best interest of the child. So… and these are the factors: the financial needs of the child, the standard of living the child would have enjoyed had the marriage or civil union not been dissolved, the physical and the emotional condition. All of that is predicated on, of course, both of our incomes, but in the meantime, I have always and never stopped taking care of my child. The other parent may have lost his job, divorced or whatever, the relationship has been dissolved. And I'm just trying to figure out why is it that my income has… what I make is based on… will be based on how 09900117.docx 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 much he would have to pay. It should be how much he makes… should be based on how much he pays into the family." Burke, K.: "Right. So I… I think again, Representative, that you're kind of mixing apples and oranges and I don’t…"

"Well, tell me how I'm…" Burke, K.: "…think that's accurate."

"…mixing it up and maybe I can have a better understanding, please." Burke, K.: "I think that the numbers show that in the specific low-income, moderate-income instances we are looking at, the mom ends up with a higher support order, which means the dad is paying more support in this very limited instance…"

"That number doesn’t show…" Burke, K.: "…that we just looked at."

"…in the community in which I represent." Burke, K.: "Okay. Well, the numbers are the numbers, and this is the calculation that the court is going to use. This Bill only deals with the calculation of child support. And it is the belief of HFS as well as the Child Support Advisory Committee, as well as 39 other states, that the income shares provides a more equitable way to calculate child support than the… than the current method we use."

"The income… first of all, women don’t make the same amount of money as men so that… it's very impossible. I…" Burke, K.: "Representative, that's all taken into account in the formula. It's…"

"Well, see, I'm sorry. I wasn’t privileged to the formula. But let me just…" Burke, K.: "Well, I… I gave you a copy of it." 09900117.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"That was not suffice. But…" Burke, K.: "Okay."

"…let me just get to the other point of the Bill. So this Bill, in regards to men who are incarcerated, how does this Bill effect men who are incarcerated? Men who are… or women, or the other person is not working. Tell me what changes are made here." Burke, K.: "So it… it has a couple different changes. The first is that under the current law, there is no presumption that somebody who's been incarcerated, who is under a disabil… a medically certified disability or institutionalized, cannot provide support. So there's a rebuttable presumption that people in those circumstances will get a zero support order, because they don’t have the funds. Now, obviously, if there was someone who was extremely wealthy, who had other income or assets, who is incarcerated, because it's a rebuttable presumption, the judge could… could enter an order. But for the regular joe who is incarcerated, it will be a zero order. In addition…"

"Let… let me just… I just need to stop you there because we're talking for the record. If a person is incarcerated, does that stop the clock for child support?" Burke, K.: "So the… so if you are… so it's two separate scenarios. There is someone who… the… the nonincarcerated parent goes to court to get a child support order and determine parentage and all that, and the person is incarcerated currently, the court will find that there is a zero order. Okay? So they will not have a child support order entered against them while they are incarcerated. The second situation is where someone 09900117.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 already has a child support order against them and… or with them, and they're paying on their child support or not, and then they go to… then they go into jail or into prison. There is a mechanism where they can get that taken down to zero. It's not automatic, but…"

"So…" Burke, K.: "…it gets taken…"

"…so if they…" Burke, K.: "…down to zero."

"Well, that's current law. That's current law." Burke, K.: "So their… so what…"

"That is current law right now." Burke, K.: "It… can I finish? In… in current law, there is no guidance for the court that that is the appropriate avenue to take. So this strengthens in the ability of litigants… or of… of parents who are incarcerated to make sure that the judge takes that down to zero. So it is not automatic. And…"

"Excuse…" Burke, K.: "…this…"

"…me."

"Excuse me, Representative Flowers. You’ve had the floor for some time. I will let…"

"One more question. And thank…"

"Thank you very much."

"…you. Thank you. Now once again, Representative, I'm trying to be very clear and to… please just answer yes or no. For a person that's incarcerated, if I don’t know that I presently, if I don’t know that I could stop the clock on 09900117.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 child support because I don’t… I didn’t get a chance to go back before a judge, it's… the clock is still running." Burke, K.: "Right."

"And so, you're saying that if I know to do so, it can stop, but it will not automatically stop because I am incarcerated." Burke, K.: "That’s correct."

"Okay. So my question to you, is that not the current law now?" Burke, K.: "So… so D… HFS and Department of Corrections have resources available for inmates who have a child support order to get that done. It is not automatic, and the inmate still has to seek it out, but the resources…"

"So as I asked…" Burke, K.: "…are there."

"…you, please. Is it current law now? Is it current law that if someone is incarcerated, and if they don’t know that they can stop the clock, it will not automatically stop?" Burke, K.: "Yeah. There… it… it's not automatic now; it won't be automatic in the Bill."

"Thank you very much."

"Representative Wallace."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Of course."

"I… I am sorry. It has been very loud here, and I was trying to follow the debate between you and Representative Flowers. I just have a couple questions in terms of how the income sharing calculation works." Burke, K.: "Sure." 09900117.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"For example, if the custodial parent makes more money than the noncustodial parent, that's somehow taken into account in the sharing of…" Burke, K.: "No. So what they're doing is instead of… currently how it’s done is… and let's just use the mom/dad situation just to… for purposes of illustration and make it easy. If dad makes a thousand dollars a month, that's his net income and there's one child, and there's going to be a support order entered for $250. Okay. Very simple. This method looks not just to what the party's income are, but the actual cost based on this very detailed economic study that HFS has done, and it is… it's done this way in 39 other states. So they look at the cost of raising a child. And then… and then that cost is allocated between both parents based on their income, by percentages. But what happens in the case of… and what can happen, I won't say it will happen in every single situation 'cause this, of course, all depends on who makes what. The… the examples that I provided to Representative Flowers, in which I would be happy to show to you, for the… for low and mod, it oftentimes results in a higher… modestly higher award for the mother."

"Okay. Yeah, I'm not so certain about that, but…" Burke, K.: "Well, I've got the math…"

"Yeah." Burke, K.: "…that we can…"

"Yeah. That's…" Burke, K.: "…walk you through."

"Yeah. That’s what I want to… just so I can better understand it." 09900117.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 Burke, K.: "Yeah. It's… and I've got

"And then…" Burke, K.: "…the worksheets. I'd be happy to show them to you. They're… it… it's…

"I appreciate that." Burke, K." "It's calculated on a program that they’ll do in court. They're not asking people to come up with these calculations on their own. It's…"

"All right. And then there's a piece about con… a contributing to postsecondary education. If they make less than 133 percent of the federal poverty line, they won't be ordered to contribute to tuition?" Burke, K.: "Could you give me one second? Po… postsecon… can you clarify where you're looking? 'Cause I don't know that postsecondary education is counted in… is dealt with in this Bill."

"It looked like it was under, I'm sorry, what Section? I'm sorry, maybe that was for health care." Burke, K.: "So in addition to the award, the calculation of child support, there are additional amounts that can be added to that basic child support calculation."

"Yes." Burke, K.: "And that would be the cost of the child's health insurance, child care expenses, out of pocket health care expenses, and school expenses, including extracurriculars. So those can be added to just the basic child support calculation, very similar to what’s done now."

"Okay. Well, I just want to say I do appreciate the efforts. I've… I think I've talked to the Shriver Institute 09900117.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 a little about some of the thoughts behind this. Because of a conflict, I'm going to have to abstain from voting, but thank you for bringing this forward." Burke, K.: "Okay. And… and we'll be happy to walk you through some of the calculations just so you can conceptually understand, you know, should anyone ever ask you about it. Be happy to do that for you."

"Well, yes. And as… as a person who has an active order, I just don’t want to vote on… on…" Burke, K.: "Got you. Okay."

"…this. Thank you." Burke, K.: "Vote…"

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"So I'm… I'm really working hard on this. Unfortunately, I was not in Judicial, so I'm missing the goodness of this change. What keeps a noncustodial parent from actually not working so that they would meet the zero obligation guideline that's in this Bill?" Burke, K.: "Do they… So, if you are a volunt… and… and this is, you know, obviously, an issue that comes up currently. I mean, it’s…"

"Yeah." Burke, K.: "That… that's not…"

"That… that's exactly right." Burke, K.: "…going to change. So if you are voluntarily underemployed or unemployed, the court's going to order you to keep looking for a job. And then t’s going to impute income 09900117.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 to you that you could have earned if you had… if you had been actively seeking work or not avoiding work. And I can… let me see if I can find the number for that. So, we're… we're looking for the exact Section, but they'll impute an income, meaning they'll say, we know you can earn something. But it… so they'll impute an income; it's not going to be a million dollars. Each case will be different, you know, and eventually, and I don't want to speculate about a specific case, but eventually the judge will get… hopefully get tough with the parent, if they are for a long time refusing to work. But they will impute income of at least $40 per month per child."

"So… so we…" Burke, K.: "And that… and… and that's… I mean, this is a situation that goes on under current law. So, this isn't, you know, something that's new."

"It's… it's a… so it is a current… actual current problem." Burke, K.: "Yes."

"The… the other part that I don't quite understand is the calculation. So I'm a custodial parent, and I have the major responsibility on the regular basis. And you're taking into consideration my income and this noncustodial parent's income and giving me the difference? Is that what's… what this…" Burke, K.: "Not… not really, and I'll give you… I'll give you an example that I had th… thrown… that I had had, you know, folks run. And… so let's use an income of a mom… let's use a mom who make $18 thousand and a dad who makes $25 thousand. How does that look under this current…" 09900117.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Under this Bill." Burke, K.: "So when they ran the numbers, the mom, and let's say they have one child, the mom will end up in that specific situation with about $30 more per month than she would have if we had done a straight percentage of… of dad's income. Now, it… we… we ran specific numbers. We ran another one where mom made 30 and dad made 30, and it was a similar result, a slight benefit to the mom. Those things are all going to change depending on, you know, who's got what income just as they would with the… the calculation of net income. But the… the scenarios we ran were a slight benefit to the… to the mom in those cases."

"And so in this Bill… the current law does not allow me to calculate, for instance, if I choose to put the child in a private school. It… the current law doesn't allow me to be calculate the cost of that education for that child under my current child support order, correct?" Burke, K.: "Exact… Right. It's at the discretion of the judge, and that will remain the law."

"And so would this Bill then… I'm… I'm… that's why I'm so confused because it is the current law. The zero net gain is still the current law. I… I don't understand how this improves the situation for the single parent mom, you know, working on a slightly above minimal wage. How does this improve for her, as opposed to a person with more means? This doesn't seem to be a benefit for the low-income earner." Burke, K.: "Right. So I think we just went through the scenario where the mom made $18 thousand a year, and the dad made $25 thousand a year. And under tha… that specific situation, the 09900117.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 calculation we ran showed that mom would get… I said 29, but it's actually 24.85 more per month under this scenario than under the current law. Because these are, you know, we're not dealing with large incomes; these aren't going be huge amounts of money, but $25 a month is a benefit to that… to that mom for sure."

"And there is no scenario where the… the noncustodial parent or the custodial parent would come out with a zero net gain, so to speak, meaning each income. I make 29, he makes 29; there is no difference. What's the ruling under this Bill?" Burke, K.: "So… so we looked at a 30 and a 30. Okay? So we did the same thing. This gets a little trickier, 'cause now you get into like who gets to claim the child care, you know, the child dependency exemption, things like that. But under the situation where mom makes 30 and dad makes 30, the mom would receive $29.64 more in additional income. And then if the mom takes the dependency exemption, she gets… so she gets a break on her… on what she has to pay in income tax, but she does get a slight amount more per month from the dad as well, about $4 a month."

"And just… just a final question. There is… is this factoring in income disparities, right? Does this factor that in?" Burke, K.: "Right. So if mom made 5 thousand and dad made 60 thousand, obviously, you know, the mom… the… the total is out of that 65. So the mom is only being expected to contribute a very minimal amount to the total cost of raising that child. The focus is on what the cost of raising the child is, and 09900117.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 then how we allocate that. And because of these income scenarios we talked about, in those situations, because we're focusing on how much it costs to raise a child based on these economic studies, there is a slight benefit to the mom in those specific instances."

"And can you just clarify legislative intent on this Bill for me?" Burke, K.: "The intent is to…"

"What your intent is on this Bill." Burke, K.: "My intent is to implement the recommendations of the Child Support Advisory Committee of HFS, which is recommended that Illinois switch to an income shares method of child support calculation."

"Okay. I'm going to look at that. Thank you." Burke, K.: "Okay."

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Kelly, I sit on the Advisory Committee, and I understand this Bill. I even mentioned to the supervisor that this was going to really hurt a lot of single moms. It's not really helping it that much. I mean, I… I understand, I know the Bill 'cause I sit on the committee, but I worked for child support enforcement for 18 years. And when I see a Bill like this, I really feel it in my gut that it's… it's really going to hurt a lot of people." Burke, K.: "So specifically what do you think the hurt is…"

"Well…" Burke, K.: "…and did you voice that to the Child Support…"

"Yes. Oh, yes, I did." Burke, K.: "…Advisory Council?" 09900117.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Yes, I did." Burke, K.: "So what specifically do you view the harm to be?"

"Well, what I… when I'm talking to singles moms like in my district talking about this Bill, they were really nervous about it. Because say they make more than the… than the non- custodial parent. They feel we already spend a lot of money. Sometimes they give you a certain number of child support. Sometimes the judge will say okay, you're not working so by the 25, 30 dollars, or whatever they order them…" Burke, K.: "Right."

"…to pay. And sometimes they don't pay it, and then they have in arrears. And then like you mentioned, if there's an incarcerated noncustodial parent, if he has a child support enforcement bill, he would… they would have to stop the… the… the withholding. Okay? 'Cause now…" Burke, K.: "Right."

"…he's incarcerated. So the moms are nervous because they're… they're saying we already… we make whatever. Say they make 50 thousand, I'm just using that as an example, and he's not working. She's already paying everything, because he's… she's not getting any child support." Burke, K.: "Right. But the dad's not the custodial parent…"

"I said he's…" Burke, K.: "…so the mom's not…"

"…he's the noncustodial parent." Burke, K.: "Right. So… so under… and I think…"

"But he's not working." 09900117.docx 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 Burke, K.: "…what we have to focus on is the adequacies of… of, you know, child support enforcement in general and then what ch… I mean, it's… it's… it's tough. You worked in it for a…"

"Yeah." Burke, K.: "…million years."

"Yeah." Burke, K.: "You could have any law you want, and there's going to be people who don't pay."

"Yeah." Burke, K.: "Right?"

"Right, right." Burke, K.: "Regardless of it."

"There's always going to be. There's been…" Burke, K.: "There's always…"

"Yes." Burke, K.: "So enforcement and collection is going to be a problem no matter what you do. So in terms of… have you…like when these moms have talked to you, have you run through the calculation…"

"Yes. Yes…" Burke, K.: "…because…"

"…they know, 'cause they already… they already have a withholding, but sometimes the dads…" Burke, K.: "Right, but they…"

"…are not… they don't have a job. So if the George… if the judge orders them to go on a job diary, 'cause that's…" Burke, K.: "Yeah, right…"

"… you call them." Burke, K.: "…with the job diary." 09900117.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Right. What they do is they just open up their directory, and they just write down whatever businesses are in there and say that I went to go visit them and ask for a job, but they were aval… there was no jobs available." Burke, K.: "Right. So…"

"So, I know the way that works…" Burke, K.: "But…"

"…'cause that's… they used to that in my courtroom." Burke, K.: "Right. But I don't think this Bill changes any of… of that. So I don't understand how they… I… I guess I'm… I'm unsure…"

"Let… let… let me… let me…" Burke, K.: "…what you perceive the… I think there will be some continuing problems, problems that are in the system right now, but I'm not really hearing what… what changes that this Bill proposes that would be…"

"It… it's just that…" Burke, K.: "…potential harm."

"…some moms are… are working and sometimes the pa… the pa… the noncustodial parent has a withholding order…" Burke, K.: "Right."

"…that they're not following; they're not sending the payments. So that mom is really… she's the one that's paying for everything." Burke, K.: "So if… so if the noncustodial parent's not working, there's going to be a… I mean, they'll have to keep…"

"So the burden will be on the mother 'cause she makes, say, $50 thousand, example…" Burke, K.: "So…" 09900117.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"…and she does…" Burke, K.: "But that… that's how the… I mean that's the situation that they're in today."

"Right." Burke, K.: "So how this does put a little bit of teeth into that, though, is that there's a presumption that even if that person is got no income or a very low income 'cause they're under… voluntarily underemployed, that the… that there's a presumption that they will have a $40 a month obligation per child. So if it's a mom with three kids, it's $120. Now, I know that's not…"

"They can't pay it…" Burke, K.: "No. It's…"

"…'cause they're… they're unemployed." Burke, K.: "But no they don’t. It's… but it… you can't…"

"If they are employed." Burke, K.: "I understand. So but you're… you're… you're saying that you… that they're having difficulty getting the dad to do anything because… but here there… there's a mechanism for at least getting a support order in place for that minimal amount while the person is…"

"Unemployed." Burke, K.: "…is unemployed, voluntarily or involuntarily."

"Right. No, no, I understand it. But that's what I'm saying. Just my experience working in courtrooms, I used to be the supervisor of all the paternity and domestic relation courtrooms." Burke, K.: "Right." 09900117.docx 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"So I saw that on a regular basis 'cause, I mean, I was the supervisor of the courtroom that dealt with child support. So, I'm just using it as an example of some experiences…" Burke, K.: "Right."

"…that I went through and some of the conversations I've had in my district to talk about child support…" Burke, K.: "Right. So what I would say…"

"…about this Bill." Burke, K.: "…is… is the scenarios that the committee ran in terms of, you know, low-income and moderate-income folks, I mean…"

"I… I…" Burke, K.: "…those calculations are in there. And I don't… they haven't borne out that the mom will receive… at least the order would be less than what it is today. It seems like in most cases, especially on those low levels, they would actually would be a slight benefit voluntarily come out. Again, collecting is still going to be a challenge, but the cal… but calculating what the award it is itself, I haven't seen…"

"So, there'll be some winners… Burke, K.: "…anyone show me…"

"…and losers. That's what I want to say." Burke, K.: "I think the…"

"There's going to be winners and losers. That's… that's it. That's okay." Burke, K.: "It's all… I mean, you know, anything with child support and with… it's all fact specific. So, it's going to depend on what the mom earns and what the other parent earns." 09900117.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"I… I just wanted to let you know that I sit on the Advisory Board and wanted to let you know…" Burke, K.: "Right."

"…what we're doing." Burke, K.: "We're not… we're not changing people's behavior or culture…"

"No, no. I understand." Burke, K.: "…we're changing the calculation."

"I understand." Burke, K.: "Okay."

"Well, thank you. Thank you."

"Mr. Ford. Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So I have three questions…" Burke, K.: "Sure."

"…Representative. The first question is, is it possible under the current law, right now it's 10 percent 20 percent; it goes like that. Is it possible for the parent to receive more than a 10 percent under the new calculations? So right now let's say a parent is ordered to pay." Burke, K.: "Well, so the current guidelines now are…

"So if a parent…" Burke, K.: "…20 percent…"

"Yeah." Burke, K.: "…for one child, 25 percent for two…"

"Oh, it's 20 percent." Burke, K.: "…28 for three, 32, up to… up to 50 percent is the max." 09900117.docx 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"So under this new shared amount, is it possible that the parent could receive more than the 20 percent the way the current law is structured?" Burke, K.: "So it's… it's all very family specific, so I… I don't want to make a categorical statement that no one… that no individual award ever will exceed a percentage. I… I just don't think I can do that. But what it has generally shown is that for low-income parents that there's a little bit of a benefit for the custodial parent at that level. It changes when you get into people who earn high incomes and are a little more equally… equal in income."

"Does the Bill speak to whether or not a non-custodial parent is already in an order and paying child support? How would that be factored in?" Burke, K.: "For a different child?"

"Yes." Burke, K.: "So… so currently, how it works is it's like a first in time situation. So the… the first child support case that's filed, that child would get 25 percent of the net income. And then if there's a subsequent child support case, let's say for another one child, that child gets 25 percent of the net income minus what the dad's already paying for the first child. So in… so like if… yeah, so if… so if you look at it as a pie under the current situation, let's say there's three kids, three separate cases, the first child gets a pie that's half the pie. The second child gets a slice that's, you know, a little over a quarter. And then the third child gets what's left."

"Right." 09900117.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 Burke, K.: "Under the… the way this Bill is structured, it would provide for equal child support order for all those children. That's avoiding the… the first in time."

"Good. That… I think that's excellent. Now what happens to all the current orders?" Burke, K.: "So this is prospective only. So if you have a child support order currently, it does not change unless you have a… an independent basis to review your child support order, if you have a substantial change in circumstances, and you are looking to modify your child support order specifically for that substantial change in… in circumstances. But the passage of this Bill alone will not modify existing child support orders."

"But they can… parents… noncustodials can apply to fall into the new cost sharing if…" Burke, K.: "If… if they had a substantial change in their… in… in their circumstances, and they were going in for a modification, then this would apply going forward."

"Thank you." Burke, K.: "Yeah, you're welcome."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. This is a model that's in place in 39 other states, so we are not, I think, setting ourselves up for a situation where we… we can't anticipate what the impact of this will be. And I would just like to, I… I don't know if the Sponsor has done this already, but I would just like the highlight the fact that the Illinois Attorney General and the Sergeant Shriver National Center on Poverty Law are both proponents. These are hardly entities 09900117.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 and organizations that are out to screw poor people. These are, in fact, the organizations that lobby down here every day for us to do things in favor of poor people. So if they're supporting this, I think we can feel pretty comfortable that this will not in… this will not have a negative impact on those most vulnerable. And we want to… I absolutely agree, we want to make sure that… that children are provided the best possible upbringing that they… that they can receive, and these are the organizations that are… that are helping us do that. So I… I feel like there's a perception here that this is no… always… this is always going to hurt poor women. I think that that is just absolutely not correct at all. And this is a step in the right direction. It's a step in modernizing a much outdated system that we have in the State of Illinois for… for calculating child support. So I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Burke to close." Burke, K.: "And… and thank you for your comments. And I… I would echo the previous speaker in that not only are the Illinois Attorney General and the Shiver Law on Poverty Center supportive of this Bill, they were actively engaged in the process of the hearings and studies that went on with HFS and the Child Support Advisory Council to come up with the idea for… for adopting income shares and the drafting of the Bill. So it was definitely they were hands on in crafting this. And I echo that that I don't think they would be supportive of anything that… that they thought would in any way be a detriment to poor people. So I hope I've answered all your questions, and I ask for an 'aye' vote." 09900117.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there 102 voting 'yes', 4 voting 'no', 7 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6163, Mr. Crespo. Out of the record. House Bill 4240, Representative Flowers, on Second Reading. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for the adoption of Amendment #1. It would give the school board the option to require parental services rather than having the parents to participate in the services. And I would move for the adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 167, Representative Flowers. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Amendment #1 is a gut and replace. And it merely allows the municipalities and the county to have same ordinances in regards to confidentiality of juveniles and making sure that the juvenile records stay sealed. And I move for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6225, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Please read the Bill. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. So the system had the wrong Sponsor. I understand Mr. Sullivan is the Sponsor, so please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Did I handle that okay, Sir? Thank you. House Bill 1191, Representative McAsey. Please read the Bill."

"Representative McAsey on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Member of the House. House Floor Amendment #1 is language authorizing the quick-take of property along the Weber Road corridor near the Weber I-55 interchange. I ask for its adoption." 09900117.docx 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4658, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last year we passed, or I guess it was two years ago, the… we passed and the then Governor signed a… the establishing of a condominium ombudsman program to require some education for condo… condominium boards and owners to require them to… to register so with… with the state and to offer somewhere down the line a dispute resolution process between boards and owners. The… I've been working with the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation to change the legislation… change the statute so that they feel that they can actually implement it in a way that… that… that works. So we think we have come up with something that the department is enthusiastic about implementing. It still offers… still requires education. It no longer requires registration for condos and community associations. And it does maintain the dispute resolution, although we delay the implementation of that. And I'd ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please, record 09900117.docx 80  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 yourselves. Please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4361, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Back in about 2005, 2006 the Uniform Law Commission undertook an effort to look at the Uniform Limited Liability Company Act and completely rewrote it and updated it. Since then, there's been a group in Illinois taking that uniform law and making sure that it works for Illinois. And this is a comprehensive rewrite of the LLC Act for Illinois."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Bear with the Chair, we're having a technical difficulty. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 112 voting 'yes', and 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Crespo on House Bill 6163. Out of the record. Mr. Rita, House Bill 6060. Please read the Bill"

"Mr. Rita."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 6060 is an initiative from the Health Care Council of Illinois. Basically, it… it allows pending Medicaid 09900117.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 eligible applications to be in their count for the expedited payment status. They've been making great strides over the years, but they're nowhere near the 45-day federal requirement and believe this would help our long-term care facilities and our elder population."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4536, Mr. Walsh. Out of the record. We're going back to some Second Reading Bills that were on your priority lists, Members. The first one is House Bill 4371, Mr. Andersson. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Andersson."

"Mr. Reis."

"Sponsor yields." 09900117.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5962, Representative Bourne. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bourne." 09900117.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6331, Representative Cassidy. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Cassidy on the Amendment."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment reflects the agreed language that takes away the opposition of the NRA."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4518, Mr. Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5626, Representative Hernandez. Out of the record. House Bill 4648, Mr. Welch. Mr. 09900117.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 Welch. Out of the record. House Bill 4626, Mr. Rita. Mr. Rita. Read the Bill, please."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5785, Mr. Turner. Leader Turner. Out of the record. House Bill 3160, Representative Willis. Please read the Bill."

"Lady takes the Bill from the record. Moving to some Third Reading Bills. House Bill 4683, Representative Bellock. Please read the Bill."

"Leader Bellock."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. 109 voting 'yes', 3 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 59… Excuse me. House Bill 5894, Representative Hammond. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hammond."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4343, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill." 09900117.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Thank… thank you, Speaker. You look mighty fine today. I haven't said that in a while. So this extends the deadline for the initial report to the General Assembly from the Attendance Commission. And I just want to say on this, the chairwoman, chairwoman Antoinette Taylor is doing such a phenomenal job that we, as a state, are getting recognized at the federal level on all the work we're doing here in Illinois through the White House. So I'll take any questions, but I ask for its passage."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1334, Mr. Franks. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A few years ago, we created a two-tier pension system for the five state retirement system for IMRF and for the local Chicago funds. We also… at the same time, we did a… another Bill that… that prohibited Tier II members from simultaneously collecting a pension and a salary while employed full-time with another public employer. 09900117.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 At the time we did a Tier II for the downstate police and fire funds along with the Chicago police and fire and IMRF SLEP, inexplicably the prof… the provision prohibiting collecting a salary and a pension was not included in the public safety legislation. This Bill would fix that oversight, and it would prohibit future members beginning January 1, 2017 in Tier II of a downstate police, downstate fire, Chicago police or fire pension fund from collecting a salary and a pension from another public employee when working full-time like all other state employees. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3755, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 5948, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr… thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you all recall, we did House Bill 500 last year, which created the opportunity for hygienists to be the first entry to seeing a patient. We did this… we did training requirements for that for… we created the position of a dental assistant. Over the course of the holiday break, the dental hygienists came to see me. They thought that some of the provisions were overly 09900117.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 burdensome. So this is a trailer Bill. On the floor, I committed to work on their concerns. This is a product of that work. So I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Very briefly to the Bill. I want to commend Representative Zalewski and all of his hard work. I think he's tried to take a very difficult conversation between the dentist and the hygienist; there was a lot of back and forth. And I represented kind of the hygienist side of this conversation, particularly to the extent in which it was encouraging hy… encouraging the hygienists to go out into underserved communities and provide services. The dentists didn't like that, because they felt that hygienists were stepping on their toes, which I can appreciate, but the objective was to get more services in the underserved communities. So, presumably, this represents kind of the culmination of all those conversations. It may open a door for further conversation down the road, but at the very least, here we are right now. So let's see how this works. And again, thank Representative Zalewski on all of his hard work."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Of course, Sir."

"Den… Dental Society is neutral on this Bill."

"Correct."

"Yeah. This is as close as they are going to get."

"Those in favor of the Bill vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. There are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4365, Mr. Welch. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4365 needs an Amendment adopted. The Amendment, House Floor Amendment #3, removes all opposition, makes it an agreed Bill. I ask for approval."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5736, Representative Hernandez. Please read… Out of the record. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. Senate Bill 26, Mr. Bradley. Mr. Bradley. Out of the record. Bills on the Order of Second Reading awaiting action. House Bill 5764, Mr. Andrade. Out of the record. House Bill 677, Mr. Bradley. Out of the record. House Bill 699, Mr. 09900117.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 Bradley. Out of the record. House Bill 4156, Representative Kelly Burke. Kelly Burke. Out of the record. House Bill 6013, Representative Cassidy. Out of the record. House Bill 4606, Mr. Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 696, Mr. Franks. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Franks."

"I'm… I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Floor Amendment amends the Property Tax Extension Limitation Law by creating an extension for a year… for this year and the years there after."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5931, Representative Gabel. Representative Gabel. Please read the Bill."

"This Bill will remain on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 822, Representative Mayfield. Out of the record. House Bill 5627, Mr. Rita. Mr. Rita. Out of the record. House Bill 825, Mr. Yingling. Out of the record. House Bill 4976, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5602, Mr. Unes. Mr. Unes. Out of the record. Ladies and Gentlemen, now we're moving to Third Readings on some more priority Bills. The first one is House Bill 5793, Representative Ives. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ives."

"Out of the record. House Bill 3199, Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Chapa LaVia."

"Let me look for my Bills really quickly. I'm sorry. I'm not prepared. Requires that charter schools to comply with all absenteeism and truancy policies and requirements 09900117.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 applicable to public schools. I'll take any questions. There's no opposition, by the way. Except for Jack. Then everybody should vote for it. That's it."

"That's it? Sounds like a great Bill. Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"I didn't hear one word you said, Representative. Can you repeat yourself, please?"

"This… this… it is, and it was a recommendation done by the truancy task force in which we reinforced again earlier… to my earlier legislation. But it addresses some of the recommendations of the truancy in Chicago Public School task force that had specific definitions to truant and chronic absents and to dropout. Because there was different language, what we're trying to do is make it so it's uniform and INCS…

"…and everybody was…"

"…on board with this."

"So it… it re… it applies to all schools…"

"…but the issue was in the discussion that we put forward on the table was that there… there wasn't a uniform absenteeism means this or truancy means this. So, what we've done is uniform the whole entire Chicago school public system to include charter schools. Char… charter schools right now per statute only have to define when… when students are dropping out and maintain records, daily records, but they did not have to adhere to…"

"…the truancy application."

"Yes."

"Yes…"

"…and they came to the table; they want to be in compliance."

"So, now they're…

"…a had… happy family."

"You're welcome. Thank you."

"Representative McDermed."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's not my Bill."

"That has… that has nothing to do with this Bill."

"This is the language."

"No. This is… that was underlying language that's already in the statute. We're… what we're talking about is the language…"

"…on defining absenteeism and making it uniform throughout the Chicago Public Schools. But Representative Flowers will come over and talk about he's if you want her to."

"You're welcome, Ma'am."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; oppose 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 6030, Representative Conroy. Please read the Bill." 09900117.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. This Bill would require pension funds to adopt a process to check death records at least once a month. This process may include the use of a third party company, Social Security administration data, data from the depar… Department of Public Health office and Vital Records Division or any other method that is commonly used by the State retired system… Retirement System."

"Mr. Sandack."

"You can give a brief question."

"We removed the opponent with…"

"…the Amendment. And the Amendment…"

"Correct."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5882, Representative Conroy. Please read the Bill." 09900117.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Representative Conroy. Out of the record. House Bill 5529, Mr. Crespo. Mr. Crespo. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 5529 would allow school boards to continue to transfer surplus life safety taxes into operations and maintenance funds for building repair until June 30 of 2019, instead of what they have now, which was June 30 of 2016. Happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 4 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5898, Representative Moeller. Please read the Bill. We've already passed this Bill. One time only, Representative. House Bill 5576, Representative Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. Out of the record. House Bill 5025, Mr. Welch. Out of the record. House Bill 5027, Mr. Rita. Please read the Bill. 5627, Mr. Clerk. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5704, Mr. Pritchard. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I see in our analysis that the eps… Epilepsy Foundation is opposed. Could you please let us know why?"

"Okay. Yeah, and our analysis may be incorrect on this, so I wanted to find out. So what this Bill requires if someone 09900117.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016 loses consciousness or has a seizure due to a medical condition that they have to begin treatment of have a plan within three months in order to keep the driving privileges?"

"There could be consideration for what? I'm sorry."

"Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate it."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Bob… Will the Sponsor yield, Mr. Speaker?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Bob, didn't we… didn't we pass this Bill last year?"

"Wh… when you say the Secretary of State's Office couldn't live with, what do you mean?"

"Okay. I don't mean belabor this, but what… to me, you have an enforcement problems here when you're asking… you're creating an offense of reckless driving by going retroactively to when a person had a seizure more than three months ago. So we went through this last year, but if a person is an epileptic… epileptic… I'm sorry, if I'm pronouncing that wrong… and they have an episode. And then they commit… seizures can manifest themselves in various ways. You can pass out; you can have an episode. And then, subsequently, they are stopped for a minor offense. Are they liable…"

"…because they had that episode three months ago?"

"What instances are happening where people are driving without reporting their seizure disorder?"

"And what was that person charged with?"

"So I would argue that court was misguided by saying that a person who hadn't noted that their seizure disorder and they continued to drive in a way that jeopardized people's safety was recklessness. So the court might have been mistaken, but not necessarily the statute."

"Okay. To… to the Bill. I understand what the Gentleman's doing. I think we did this… I remember doing this Bill last year; I had the exact same concerns last year. And I think we are unecess… I… I completely empathize with the families of those victims, and I… and I get the need to… to try to do something for them, but I think we make a mistake when we correct statutory… statutes based on one instance, when, to me, it was obvious that the court made a bad decision when it came to finding a fact on recklessness. So, regrettably, I can't support the Gentleman's Bill, although I certainly applaud his intentions."

"Mr. Prichard to close." 09900117.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 117th Legislative Day 4/14/2016

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 91 voting 'yes', 18 voting 'no', and 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of Second Reading, House Bill 5736, Representative Hernandez. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5785, Mr. Turner. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 6136, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4630 on the Order of Third Reading, Representative Ives. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Ives."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4318, Mr. Moffitt. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Moffitt."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Walsh."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On House Bill 5704, I'd like to be recorded as a 'yes' vote."

"Your record will reflect your intentions, Sir. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"Members, as a reminder, substantive Amendments on all Bill must be filed by the close of business tomorrow, which is Friday. Substantive Amendments on your Bills must be filed by the close of business tomorrow, which is Friday. And leaving perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Currie moves that the House stand adjourned 'til Friday, April 15 at the hour of 9:30 a.m. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned 'til Friday, April 15 at the hour of 9:30 a.m."