Illinois Senate Floor Debate — June 30, 1990

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) As you can see, if you look at your Watches, itfs twelve midnight. We have new legislative day. ft's now June the 30th, and with that we will go to Supplemental Calendar No. 7. House Bi1l 1550. Senator Marovitz. Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1550.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This is the Seeond Conference Committee Report on House Bill 15b0. This is the condominium legislation Which defines l'reasonable reserves''and establishes criteria for that. Makes requirements currently applicable to single associations, applicable to master associations. We pretty much discussed most of this before...

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Billy, han: on for a second. Let me read in the record.

Seeond Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1550.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Marovitz.

Thank you very much, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This is the condominium bill, the Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1550. The report is very bulky, but at least -- ak least half the report -- repeats two insurance bills, House Bill 2834 and House Bill -- 3740, whlch passed this Body, but which khe Department of Insurance said they needed an immediate effeetive date on. So we repeated both of those bills in full in this conference Committee Report and put an immediate effectlve date on The -- the portion of the bill that was most eontroversial regarding a student loan fund for attorneys has been removed in toto from the bill. There is still, in the bill, a provision whicb allows a domestic insurance company with a eapltal 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ll3*h Legislative Day June 30, 1990 surplus of five million to reinsure the business of title insurance companies. The purpose of this is to create new business opportunities, and I would solicit your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any diseussion? The Gentleman from Lake, Senator Barkhausen. SENATOR BARKHAUSEN; Mr. President and Members, I rise to solicit *he support of the Members, particularly those on my side of the aisle. As Senator Marovitz pointed out this Conference Committee Report is without the objectionable provision that, I think, caused the lack of majority support the last time around, and -- and I therefore urge your suppart this time.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Whiteside, Senator Schuneman.

Thank you, Mr. President. I'm sorry that I have to do thisy but I really Ehink what Wedre doing here is a terrible thing that We should stop, and that is to have the Department of Insurance come in here at the late date and try to put language in the bill for some specifie one or two insurance companies. not sure thae the sponsor knows the answers to these questions, but Senator, do you know who wants that provision that Would allow domeskic insurance companies to go into the reinsurance business for title insurance? Do you know Who wants that?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman 'rom Cookr Senator Marovitz.

I1m not really sure, Cal.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schuneman.

Do you know whether or not therets any emergency about 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 grantinq khis power that -- that is not now in the Statutes?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Marovitz.

An honest answer would be I don't know of any emergency.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schuneman.

assume tbere was some discussion between you and the other conferees. Did you indicate to them that there was objection to this in the Senate?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Sehator Marovitz.

-- I -- I explained to the other conferees that -- that you, in particular, were objecting to -- to this particular provision, particularly in fact that it didn't go through committee and that Was coming out on such a late date, and the feeling of the committee was that We would take the most objectionable portion out and leave this in.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECBOWICZ) Senator Schuneman.

Well, what you took out was the the issue regarding the payment of loans for attorneys that were employed by government, but I really object to this method, Ladies and Gentlemene *hat -- that each year toward the closing of a Session, the Department will rush in here to get some new issue approved for some particular insurance companies. Now some of you folks make kind of a leqislative career out attacking the insurance business and trying to get rate regulation and everything else. NoW we got a bkll that -- that is -- is obviously very special interest bill,  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 and I don't think we ought to be doing this in the closing days of the legislature. Now the Department has other provisions an this bill that they say they want. But it seems strange to me that they would put those provisions in jeopardy by linking them with this one and their position seems to have changed from onee which originally was represented to me as -- as being not in opposition, now to being one that, by gosh we have to have this. And I -- really think it's a bad procedure: and Ild ask you to support me in rejectin: this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Jones.

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he will.

Senator Marovitzy you indicated in tWo paragraphs -- two Sections of this Conference Conmittee Report, you made reference to an immediate effective date. Could you cite what Section and what article that you are putting that immediate effective date to?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Marovitz.

Well, Senator Jones, the entire bill has an immediate effective date. The two...

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones. Senator Marovitz. SENATOR MAROVITZI The two insurance bills that webre referring to, Which will now have an immediate effeetive date, because they're in this legislation are House Bills 3834 and 3740. 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslative Day June 30: 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones.

Well, I -- we -- What I'd like to know is that since we do not have that bill before us -- either one of those bills before us in the Conference Committee Report, -- I -- like to know what chapter and what paragraph are you putting an immediate effective date to. I need to know what chapter and what paragraph of the of the Code that you are putting that immediate effeetive date to.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Marovitz.

- - if youdll bear with us, we'll find it in there, and we'll glve you a specifie -- specific answer. But I will tell you this that the entire bill has an immediate effective date, sc everythin: that's in the bill has an immediate effective date.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any other questions, Senator Jones?

Chapter 73, paragraph 737.4b.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones.

...and -- and -- and 73, paragraph 736.10.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones.

Ohe that's the answer I Wanted to have. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Barkhausen.

Mr. President and Members, let me attempt to answer Senator 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Schuneman's question, saying at that the oueset èhae I don 't know the precise answer to who wants the provision with regard to the - - authorizing domestic insuranee companies to reinsure title insurance. Bue the little bit I have been told is that, in the absence of this authorization, is that one title insurance company depends upon another for its reinsurance, which effectively limits the ability to reinsure to the the largest title insurance company or companies. My -- my thinking is that -- if you -- if you were therefore authorizinq other insurance companies to provide reinsurance, you're making the reinsurance business for title insurance companies more competitive, and that is or ought to be a good thing. So I don't see any strong objection other ehan *he procedural one that we're doing this at the last minute, but if we're gonna -- I guess if Welre gonna to object to doin: this kind of thing on a eonference committee report, we ought to have adjourned as soon as we finished business on House Bills last week.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schuneman, for a second time.

Well: thank you, Mr. President. Senator, I appreeiate your -- your comments, but the fact of the matter is that the Statute did not previously allow domestic insurance companies to enter the -- enter into the reinsurance -- of title insurance. So this is a neW authorization in Illlnois. And I'd like to know who it's forr and I'd like to know why we're doing it Ehe last hour of the last day. This is a strange procedurey and I don't think we ought to be doing it. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Marovitz, to close. SENATOR MAROVITZ: Well, thank you very much, Mr. President. I meang basically 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBL; REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 what wedre doing is, we 're assisting business. We are allowing domestic companies to go into the reinsurance -- title reinsurance business, but a11 that it is doing is helping our companies and helping create business and new business opportunities. That's What this all about. I will admit it didn't go through committee, and maybe a lot -- a 1ot of bills that Wefre considering haven'ty but the fact is if wedre helping business in the State of Illinois that's what Wedre here for, and if -- if something comes to our attention at the last minute that can create new business opporkunities, what's wrong with that? It'll help the public, and that's what this is al1 about.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, shall the Senate adopt the Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1550. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Madam Secretary, please take the record. On this question, there are 32 Ayes, 20 Nays, and 2 recorded as Present. And the Senate does concur w1th the Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1550. Senator Schunemanz -- what purpose you seek recognition?

I1m sorry, Mr. President, but I'm going to ask for a verification of the roll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Xou're entitled to that. The Membership please be in their seats. A verification has been requested. Madam gecretary, poll the affirmative vote.

The following Members voted in the affirmative: Alexander, Barkhausen...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me. Is that enough bells for you?  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990

..o Berman, Brookins, Carroll, Collinsg D 'Arcor Davidsonz de1 Valle, Thomas Dunnz Geo-Karis, Hally Hawkinson, Holmberg, Jacobs, J.E. Joyce, J.J. Joyce, Kelly, Lechowicz, Luft, Marovitz, Netsch, Newhouse, O'Daniel, Raica: Rea, Savickas, Severns, Smith, Welch, Zito and Mr. President.

PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Is there any question of the affirmative vote? Senator Schuneman.

Senator Netsch.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Netsch. The Lady is on the Floor. The Lady is in the Chamber.

Senator Zito .

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Zito. Senator Zito in the Chamber? Remove him off the roll call.

Senator Barkhausen.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWTCZ) Barkhausen is on the Floor.

No more questions, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFIQER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) On this question, there are 31 Ayes, 20 Nays, 2 recorded as Present, and the Senate does adopt the Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 1550, and is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3-0-2-4. The -- House -- the First Corrected Report on House Bill 3-0-2-4. Senator Savickas. Read Ehe report, Madam Secretary. 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 SECRETARY HAWKER: . First Corrected Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3024.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas. E

Yes. The Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3024 was, as I had explained before when this bill went over as a shell bill - was waiting for the amendment -- well, two amendments. One that would add that any unit of local government of less than twenty-five thousand population experiences a fiscal emergency, or if the unit so requests, a financial planning and supervision commission shall be created to oversee certain fiscal matters relating to the unit. And it defines the powers and duties of the commission. The second item adds language specifically for East St. Louis that holds that appropriations and long-term bonds and other obligations sold by IDFA can be used to refinance a financially distressed city's debt obligations. Bonds sold by IDFA are protected by revenue intercept, Which requires the intercepting of Local Government Distributive Fund, local sales tax distribution, and MFT, if the city fails to meet its payment schedule. Bonds sold to assist distressed cities are backed by the moral obligation of the State. Firstz the financial planning portion of the bill is essentially House Bill 211, which was Senator Newhouse and Representative McNamara, Was vetoed in the Eighty-fifth General Assembly and Ehat was prompted by *he fiscal emergencies of the Villase of Robbins at Ford Heights. Those veto concerns were addressed in -- at this point, a11 items that the Governor Was concerned about have been addressed. The second I I portion of the Municipal Code and IDFA portions of the bill are the end product of the Governor's Task Force on East St. Louis. The City of East St. Louisf counter proposal; the twenty changes, i ; 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30: 1990 thirteen of which are Wholly or partially contained in this report, and there's an appropriation of four mlllion. And emergency funds will be requested. And five hundred thousand for operations and consultants for the second portion. These -- this bill is designed to address those economically distressed cities in our State and bring them back on their feet and be productive cities. And I would support -- ask for your support for these Conference Committee Report.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from St. Clair, Senator Hall.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1111 be very brief. Youdve read about this in the papers. I'm happy to have arrived at this time. want to personally Ehank everybody on both sides of the aisles of the hard work and espeeially the Governor, down on the next floor, and the leaders up here. So I'd ask your most favorable support of this legislation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator Savickas, to close.

I would appreciate your favorable support of this Conference Committee Report.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is# shall the Senate adopt the First Corrected Report on House Bill 3-0-2-4. Those in favory vote Aye. Those opposed: vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have all voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 55 Ayes, no Nays, none recorded as Present, and the Senate does -- does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3-0-2-4. This bill, having received the constitutional majorityy is hereby declared passed. House Bill 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 3-8-4-3. Conference Committee Report -- First Report on Hcuse Bill 3-8-4-3. Senator Fawell. Senator Pawell. Read the report.

First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3843.

PRESIDING OPEICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. This is a bill that is -- basically has been very non-controversial. We just had to straighten some technical lanquaqe out. It requires a fifty-dollar fee for filin: a demand for a jury trial in ordinance; authorizes various additional fees for clerks in the circuit eourt counties over six hundred and fifty thousand in population; authorizes counties to impose a circuit court clerks to -- to collect court document fees for the expenses of a document storage fee system . And this was the technical problem we had. We were allowing clerks to charge three dollars per child support payment. Then we discovered some of them were payin: per week, so we chanqed it to thirty-six dollars a year. This is an agreed bill. I knoW of no objection ko it, and I solleit your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The Gentleman from Rock Island, Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. President. Would the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates she Wil1.

The -- the -- as I read the bill on Page 4. it appears that this bill -- the pay raise is retroactive for the clerks. Could you explain to me why that would be a retroactive provision in 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 this bill?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Pawell.

Yes. I'm sorry, I didnlt -- We passed that earlier. That's because they found out that the -- under recent Supreme Court decision that circuit clerks now are no longer under the jurisdiction of the county board. They are under the jurisdiction of the courts and therefore, the pay raise was accelerated by one year, because they don't have to wait until they dre re-elected or elected.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

I'm correcty this is paid for through the courts, not? And number two, hoW much is the -- the increase, and what will the clerk be making, and who pays for it?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Fawell.

Iels -- it's paid through the -- through the county board, and it is a three-percent raise. is a graduated scale depending on how many people youlve qot in your county. The most any clerk has got at the present time makes at the present time is fifty-seven thousand - that's in Cook. It goes down, I think, as I remember, down to about fourteen some counties.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

But this is this not a pay raise to all clerks of the circuit courts in -- in counties less than three -- three million, so a11 counties other than Cook, is that correct?  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Fawell.

Yes, we passed that last year. Thls is just accelerated by one year, thatfs all.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator Fawell, to close.

solicit your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is# shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3843. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 53 Ayes, 3 Nays, none recorded as Present, and the Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3843. This bill, having received the constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3875. Read the Conference Committee Report, please.

Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3875.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Holmberg.

Thank you, Mr. President. House Bill 3875, at one time, had the amendment on and many of you -- have been lobbied about between the suppliers and the wholesale liquor dealers, that version lost in the House this evening. We have noW returned the bill to its original form . The tWo provisions in here have both passed out of the Senate unanimously before, and I would ask for your support now.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ)  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Leqislative Day June 30y 1990 Any dlscussion? The question is, shall House -- the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3875 be adopted. those ln favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 56 Ayesy no Nays: none recorded as Present, and the Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3875. This bill, having received the constitutional majorityy is hereby declared passed. Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4124. Senator Marovitz. Read the Conference Committee Report, Madam Secretary.

Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4124.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Marovitz.

Thank you very mueh, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. This is the Druq-Free Schools and Communities Actg which passed here, think, 55 to nothing, but lost in the House. 0ne of the concerns that was brought up here and was brought up in the House, and I forgot if it was Senator Etheredge or somebody brought this upz why are we taking alcohol out of the bill? And maybe youdll raise your hand over there, but someone said why are we taking alcohol out of the bill, alcohol is a serious problem, and we shouldn't be taking it out of the bill. Well, the House felt the same way, and so alcohol in now in the bill. And so: basically this Drug-Free and Alcohol-Free Schools and CommuniEies Aet, and it will hopefully deal to prevent drug abuse and alcohol abuse. There's an income tax checkoff here for treatment, and I would solicit your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall the Senate adopt the Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4124. Those in  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who ' wtsh? Please take the record. On this question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none recorded as Present, and the Senate does adopt the Second Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4124. This bill, having received the constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2231. Senator Welch. Please read the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2-2-3-1, please.

First Corrected Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2-2-3-1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Lasalle, Senator Welch.

Thank you, Mr. President. What this Conference Cammittee doesz is keep tbe original bill that we passed out of here. The original bill was the bill that said that the lawsults that are brought to enforce actions on the Environmental Protection Act, could allow for third party complaints to bring a1l individuals into one lawsuit and bring a11 of them before the court at one time instead of waiting for separate suitô to determine liability . An addition was made in conference committee that was agreed to between Environmental Protection Agency and the Home Builder's Association. The Home Builders have agreed to have a fee imposed upon them in exchange for the Environmental Protection Agency to issue sewer construction permits within forty-flve days. The fees will begin on January 1st of 1991, for any sewer requiring construetion #ermit, from the applicant of the permit. Fee is to be submitted with an application. The fees range from fifty dollars for a design population of one through twelve hundred dollars for a design population of five hundred or more. If you deposit an Environmental Protection Permit Inspection Fund to I i STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 1 administer the Program. As I said, this Was an agreed proposal. I know of no opposition to either portions of this bill. I'd be I glad to answer any question. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall the Senate adopt the First Corrected Report on Conference Committee -- on House Bi11 -- on Senake Bilt 2231. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 56 Ayes, no Nays, l recorded as Present, and the Senate does adopt the First Corrected Conference Report on Senate Bill 2231. This bill: having received the constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Is Senator Hall in the Chamber? Senator Hall? With leave of the Body, wedll go the Order of Resolutions. No objeetions. Read Resolution 211. Senator Netsch. SENATOR NETSCH: Thank you, Mr. President... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) One -- one moment. What are we reading? .. . Resalutlon 211. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Joint Resolution 2ll offered by Senators Netseh and President Rock. (Secretary reads SJR No. 211) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Cook, Senator Netsch. SENATOR NETSCH: Thank you, Mr. President. Firsty an inquiry of the Seeretary of the Senate. Was this sent to Executlve? Do I need to discharge first? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Yes. We do. SENATOR NETSCH: I I 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30: 1990 I 1 A1l right. I would then move to discharge the Committee on Executive from further consideration of Senate Joint Resolution 2ll with the intent that it be immediately considered.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady moves to diseharge the Executive Committee from further consideration on Senate Isicl (Joint) Resolution. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the matter is discharged...

... Wait a minute...

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ... Oh, sorry. Senator Karpiel. It was just to discharge the Executive Committee.

Thank you. I was standing because some of my -- the Members here have been asking me if I know anything about this, and of course, I donft, because she did not talk to me about it. I understand from staff she did talk to them . Soz I suppose it's okay.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) This is just to discharge Executive Committee anyway. No objections. The -- Senate <sic> (Joint) Resolution 2ll is discharqed. NoW on the resolution. And the resolution's been read. Senator Netsch .

Senator Karpiel, I apologize for not having had a chance to talk to you. I did talk Eo Senator Philip to get clearance on proceeding with this. We do not have the argument in opposition to the tax accountability amendment prepared, and so We have to have some contingency for seeing that it is prepared and submitted to the Attorney General. This is the -- that contingency, and wedve been working on the resolution up till the last minute. I do apologize for not getting it to you. This Would simply allow 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 I each of the legislative leaders to designate tWo leqislators to I continue ko Work on preparation of the argument in opposition. As I had expressed earlier in the day, the arguments in favor are already prepared by the proponents and submitted to the Attorney General. I would move the adoption of SJR 21l so that We can get it over to khe House for action tonight.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Dudyez.

Just one brief question. Senator Netsch, are we required to - - to prepare an argument against the tax accountability amendment?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Netsch.

Yes. The -- the Statute indicates that those who file the petition prepare the argument in favor of the explanation. And the Statute then says, ''Where there is an initiative amendment prepared and submitted that the -- '' let's see -- 'Ithe opponents shall be those Members of the General Assembly opposing such amendment or if there are none: anyone designated by the General Assembly and such opponents shall pcepare a brief argument against such amendment.''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is# is shall Senate -- Senate Joint Resolution 211 be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted wha wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 52 Ayes, 5 Nays, l recorded as Presentr and the Senate does adopt Senate Resolution 211 -- Senate Jolnt Resolution 211. The Gentleman from St. -- St. Clair, Senator Hall seeks -- seeks the Body's reeognition on Resolution 210. Senator Hall. 18  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30y 1990 I I SENATOR HALL: I I Thank youy Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the t Senate. I have conferred with both the...

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) . .. 0ne moment. The Centleman has leave of the Body to...

.. . Leave of the Body for immediate consideration and adoption...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) o a. lmmediate consideration of Senate JoinE -- on Senate <sicl (Joint) Resolution 210. Read the resolution, Madam Secretary.

Senate Joint Resolution 210. (Secretary reads SJR No. 210)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Is there any objection to discharging the Executive Committee? Hearinq nonez al1 in favorz signify by saying Aye. Opposed. The matter is discharged. On Senate Joint Resolution 210, Senator Hall.

I have spoken to both the Chairman and the Minority Leader on -- on this, and I would ask that this would be most favorably voted on, and 1...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, does the Senate adopt Senate Joint Resolution 210. All in favor, vote Aye. A1l opposed, vote Nay. The votinq is open. Have a11 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 56 Ayes, no Nays, none recorded as Presentr and the Senate Coes adopt Senate Joint Resolution 210. It's hereby declared passed. On Calendar Supplemental No. 8 appears -- I'm sorry, what? Oh, we've got to load it into the record. We'll be in Recess for two or three 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 ! minutes. Leave of the Body. Load it in. i RECESS APTER RECESS

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) We have three matters on Supplemental No. 8. Senator Jones. Who 's on 1591? Senator Berman and Senator Luft. The Gentleman from Cook. He can't really talk riqht nowy I don't believe. Theydre loading a program...tmachine cutoffl...okay. Wetre ready. Letgs go. 0n the Supplemental Calendar No. 8 appears a Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3261. Read the Conferenee Committee Report, Mr. Secretary.

ACTING SECRETARX: (MR. HARRX) First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3261.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Jones.

Thank you, Mr. President.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) One moment please. Thank you. Senator Jonesp please.

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. First Conferenee Committee Report on House Bill 3261 allows Fairmounk to have a third OTB track. Allows the Aurora, Waukegan and Grayville to receive horse racing tracks allocation funds, and it dispenses breakage fees for various programs. The Rural Diversification Act Revolvin: Pund will receive five hundred thousand dollars, and the full county funding for county fairs from the Aqriculture Premium Pund of seven hundred and fifty 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Leqislative Day June 30, 1990 I I thousand dollars. Brookfield Zoor two hundred and fifty thousand dollars: and the State Board of Education, a grant of two hundred 1 and fifty thousand dollars. And other -- other programs to -- to benefit the IHA Association - the Illinois Horsing Ksic> Association - and also the HBPA Association for its inter-track Wagering, and places the cap of a hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars on their share of those fees, and ask for the adoption of this Conference Committee Report. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The Gentleman from Champaignz Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Jones, on Page 2 and 3, there is some strange language in there. I just Wondered Why they lre telling the executive director that he may not impose any fines, penalties or mandates of action upon tracks -- race tracks and -- and may not state a position on legislative issues without the express consent of a majority of the appointed board. What's the necessity for that language? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: Well, the executive director of the racing board is an employee of that board. And on legislative matters as such, there was believed that the board should have the power and authority to decide what position that the racing board takes, so therefore this is to se* for the record what the authority of the board is in carrying out its duties. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: Well, is the executive director appointed a member and elected by the board, or is the executive director appainted by the 1 21 l .  STATE OP ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30: 1990 Governorg as executive direetor? I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones. I 1 SENATOR JONES) l Welly I couldn't answer -- answer you specifically along those I lines, but I know the -- the executive director is appointed by the Governor, but it works with the board. And -- and the board is -- is the appointees that we approve here in the Senate to carry out the rules and regs implementing the legislative action, so therefore the board feels that their authority should be there, so that whatever programs are earried out they would fully know What is going on. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Weaver. SENATOR WEAVER: Well, it just seems strange to me that we pick out one agency and tell the exeeutive director that they can't communicate with us as Senators or Representatives of the State of Illinois without consulting the entire board and getting permission to make a comment. This -- this is very stranqe language, and I would have to see it proliferate in any other agency. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Kane, Senator Etheredge. SENATOR ETHEREDGE: Thank you very much, Ladies and Gentleman of the Senate. I -- this reporE, like virtually every other one khat is put in front of us, is calculated to make each one of us very happy and very sad at the same time. I'm -- I'm grateful to the conferees beeause they have recognized a -- a plea that we have been making for some time. This permits a portion of the take at the OTB parlor in North Aurora to go -- qo to our local -- local park district. We think that's where that money ought to go. And I am 22 L -- -- -- - - - -  STATS OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 very pleased about that, and thank you, Senator Jones. HoWever: anothez part of this represents an almost a two-million-dollaz on khe General Reuenue Pund. And we have been working hard a11 sprin: long to protect some of those monies. But you wi1l notice that we are -- that one of the provisions in this Conference Committee Report does distribute one million seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the form of various qrants for several different purposes. A11 of that is GRF.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SSNATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Marovitz.

Senakor Jones: is there anythin: is this report that takes money away from the Chicago Museums, in terms of the four-sevenths that they would be getting from certain tracks?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones .

When we passed the OTB legislation some time ago -- and in that 1aw when the new tracks -- When the new OTB parlors were opened up, they Were supposed to receive their pro rata share of the funds. If the Chicago tracks those tracks that surround the City of Chicago as they do what they are supposed to do in the tax break that we gave them in that legislation -- if they were to build their OTB parlors, they in turn would receive their pro rata share. This issue came up before, when we -- when we -- when Rockford had the same skmtlat situation, and the funds that Rockford Was supposed to receive whlch came ouE of the Chlcaqo share. But Chicaqo was not supposed to receive a11 - only difference is that when the other traeks came on board they were supposed to reaeive likewisey and -- and that is what this does.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Marovitz. 23  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 SENATOR MAROVITZ: I Though, just to be clear -- right now you are taking around I threez four hundred thousand dollars from the Chicago museums and giving them to Aurora, Waukegan and Grayville, which would supposedly be replaced when our new OTBS come on line. Why eouldn't we allow the Chieago OTBS to come on line, and then give the money to the tracks, instead of taking the money away from the museums now?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones.

Well, it -- it was incunbent upon those tracks that surround the City of Chicago to -- to build those OTB parlors. Unfortunately, they have not done them as swiftly as some other areas have, but when they do, then the funds will be there. Again, I thought the way you thought a couple of years ago, when we had that similar leqislation as relate to Rockford. So we are not takin: -- really taking any money from them . These areas are entitled to it under the law that we passed, when we passed the OTB legislation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Further discussion? Senator Brookins.

Thank you. Will the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he will.

Senator Jones, how much is the Du Sable Museum losing under this program, if you know? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ! I Senator Jcnes. SENATOR JONES: j 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113kh Legislative Day June 30, 1990 I don't know what Du Sable Museum is losing. Du Sable would not lose anything that it is entitled to. No -- no museum will lose anything that they are entitled to. What has happened under the previous legislation is that, as the new 0TB parlors came on line, they automatically qualified for their share. Unfortunately: they had not been on line, and we did the same thing, I think, last year, and noW that these areas have came on line, they are entitled to So What Was happening is that perhaps Chicago was getting too muchy because other people have not done what they were supposed to do.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator Brookins.

When -- when are the Chicago OTBS scheduled to come on line?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones.

I know there is one coming on line in -- in -- in -- your area in your district. What others are scheduled to come on?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones.

I believe that one and one other, as soon as they are built, then they -- Would -- Chicago Wouldz you know, actually receive what it's entitled to. And along those same lines, perhaps was thinking about adding somethlng else to Ehis blll, and that was a - - a deadline for those tracks to be built, because we did give a lot of tax incentives to the tracks to get these OTB parlors on liner because they were supposed to bring a lot of revenue in, and they have been a little lax in their duties. But as it stands right now, Chicago will be having a couple more very shortly.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Any further discussion? Senator Jones, to close. 1

Yeah, thank you, Mr. President. All I ask for is a favorable vote on the First Conference Committee Report on 3261.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, shall the Senate adopt the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3261. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed , vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 43 Ayesz 8 Nays, 4 recorded as Presentz and the Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3261. This bill, havlng received the constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bi11 1591. Senator Berman. Mr. Secretary, read the Conference Committee Report, please.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1591.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill deals With several items including teachers' pensions and the abîlity of the Chicago schools to open in September. First, as to the teachers' pension provisions...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) ee. Excuse me, Senator. Please continue.

This bïll provides for b0th Chicago and -- downstate teachers that after twenty years of service, at age fifty-five, rather than age sixtyy a teacher may retire With full benefits. Number two, it incorporates the Chicago Teachers' Pension Fund under the terms of Senate Bill 95 that We passed last year. It was, I believe, 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 everyone's intention that that be included in there. It was not. This bill brings within the purview of Senate Bill 95, and that is the forty-year commitment for full -- full funding of a11 of the State -- State Pension Funds. Number three, it allows -- the Chicago Board of Education, which is khe only school district in the State that levies a separate property tax levy for additional funding of pensions, namely a six-percent pension levy, to divert that levy from the Pension Fund for a limited period of time to the Education Fund. The limited period of time Will be determined by the length of the contract, if one is entered into, for this September 1st. In other words, if the Chicago teachers the Chicago Board of Education and the unions enter into a one-year contract, then this diversion of the pension levy in Chicago will be authorized for one year. If it's a two-year contract, it would be two years. If it's a three-year contract, it'd be three years. Number four, there ls a differential tax which is levied by the Chicago School Finance Authority and utilized at the present time in the Chicago Board of Education Building Fund. This bill authorizes a transfer of that Fund - that tax - from the Building Fund again to the Education Fund. And fifth, this bill exempts the Superintendent -- the General Superintendent of Chicago public schools from the administrative requirements that had previously been set back in -- think it Was 1985, only for the term of his contract. This will prevent the necessity of Superintendent Kimbrough from going back to school to fulfill the requirements of our existing adminiskraEorsd requirements. This bill, if passed, will provide sixty-six million dollars of Chicago money to the Chicago Board for use in negotiation of the new teacher contract. I'd be glad to res#ond to any questions, and I solicit your Aye vote. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Demuzio. 27 !  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990

Thank you, Mr. Presldent and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I'd like to pose a couple of questions to Senator Berman, if I might.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he'll yield.

This bill now includes some language which affects the Chicago suburban and the downstate teachers. Does this bill noW include also language that provides a retirement for -- retirement cption for those suburban and downstate teachers with twenty years experience at age fifty-five?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Demuzio.

Is also true that thls bill -- that any increase in the unfunded liability from the Chicago benefit improvement is covered by the Chicaqo School Distriet?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Yes. The bill specifically provides that if there is a diversion of money, pursuant to this bill, of the pension funding tax, that diversion is absorbed by the Chlcago Board of Education. It is not absorbed and Would not be required to be absorbed, by the State's obligation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Demuzio. 28  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990

Also, is my understanding that there is a sunset provision in this language. That is would sunset after three years. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

The outside limit is three years. It might even be two or one' depending on the term of the contract.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Demuzio .

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I -- I rise in support of this bill. You know, last year when we went through this process of attempting to amortize the pension systems of over a forty-seven-year periodr one of the pension systems that the only pension system that was not included in that particular piece of legislation that amortization - was the Chicago Pension -- the Chicago Teachers' Pension System. think now that the language that is incorporated into this bill is one that I think puts a11 the pension systems in the same posture, and since the sixty-six million, to Which Senator Berman has referred, would be the responsibility of the Chicago benefit, which would be eovered by the Chicago school system, then I rise in support of -- of this bill and would ask our Members to -- to voEe Aye.

PRESTDTNG OFFTCER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) senator Maitland. Maitland, please.

Thank -- thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I rise with some stron: concerns about this Conference Commiktee Report, and I would, I guess in reverse order, Senator 29  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GEHERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 i Berman, address some of the issues. First of all, with respect to the certification of the neu Superintendent, I have met, on a ! number of oceasions, the Superintendent. I think he's doing an outstanding job in *he Chicago school dlstrict. I am impressed with the things that he's doing. What really troubles me about ' a1l of this is you and I went through some very serious deliberations back in '85 with respect to administrators' certification. We felt very strongly about that, and I don 't believe forcing the Superintendent to become fully -- fully certified is going to make him any better a superintendent. I agree with the Tribune and the Sun-Times and those Who have editorialized in that way: but I really am concerned about the signal we are sending here a11 across the State with respect to certification. It seems to me as though we are almost making a mockery of administrative certification: and in thks Stateds largest school district to suggest that the Superintendent not be fully certified, I think: really ought to cause a1l of us some cancern. With respect to the funding mechanlsm - and there will be others who follow me Who can speak much more -- much better on the pension system than I can - but I -- I really -- you and I both know this will probably not cover the deficit that the Chicago School Board will face this fall. The figures I'm hearing are closer to a hundred million dollars or thereabouts, and I -- I know there's speculatton on that. We don't know for sure, but there is that possibility. So we dre already perhaps forty million dollars short, even with this packaqe -- even with this packase. This new approaeh takes on massive neW State responsibilities. Responsibilities that We don't now have and can't afford. I really fear -- I really fear that moving in this direction with the massive ehanges in the pension system is going to create very difficult problems for the Chicago School Board in the future. A one-, a two-, a three-year program, I don't know, but I think once 30  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 you begin manipulating the pension system - and incidentally this doesn't -- there must have been some ehanges since you and talked before, because there are some differences here from what we had in discussion earlier this afternoon but I think this is a dangerous precedent to set, and we ought to find a better way to fund the Chicago sehool system.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Brookins.

Thank youz Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he will.

Senator Berman, in setting up the -- the the reform -- the School -- the Chicago School Reform, donlt think was our intention - or my intention anyway, if your intentkon to have an interim school board name a permanent superintendent. Was that our intention at that time, or was that in our mind?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

I'm not sure that I -- that We had any intention reqarding that issue. We set out a general plan for the appointment of an interim board. We also provided in there regarding the previous Superintendent. A -- we knew that a national search was bein: conducted for a new superintendent. So I certainly can't say to you that it Was our -- my intention, one Way or the other. We wanked the best people possible to run that school system.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Brookins.

STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Thank you, and to the bill: share Senator Maitland's expression in saying that we should not send this signal that we Would have an unqualified school superintendent in the Chicago system - the largest system in the State. sends a bad signal down through the community, through the educational system , and the educational community, to hire a man person though he may or may not be doing a fine job. But people that he is governing and people Who he is -- he is dismissing have greater qualifications and -- and -- and better qualification than he has, who is runninq the school board. I cannot -- I cannot embrace this report, and I will be voting No against

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schuneman.

Thank youy Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he Will.

Senatorz my principal concern with this bill is not whether or not the Chicago Superintendent is properly certified. My -- my major concern is the extent to Which the bill would require the State to pick up a greater and greater percentage of the pension contribution for the City of Chicago. As I read the bill, the City now has a tax authority, which the rest of the school districts in Illinois don't have, in that you levy a special tax ko raise the amount of money that is used Eo help pay the qmployer contribution. Then the State of Illinois contributes an amount to the City, and in the current appropriation, that amount is some sixty-six million dollars. The balance of about eighty million or so comes out of the City, and -- and their -- and their funds. think the -- the bill, as I read it, will require, over a period of time, the State to pick up the entire cost of the Chicago 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Pension System - b0th the employer and employee cost. Now we're not doing that downstate, and I really don't know What the -- what the case might be to do it in Chicago. You know, downstate schools have the same kind of problems that you have in Chicago. While they may not be as big, but they're just as big to us# and so I think the -- thè principal objection to this bill is that it does require, over a period of time, the State to pick up the entire pension contribution, at a time when we're not even properly funding those pensions for Which we have complete responsibility. So I'm not sure that -- that you can answer those questions or -- or satisfy us on them , but -- but those are my Concerns .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

All right. I think that your last -- your last phrase is -- I will try to answer your questions. I'm not sure I Will satisfy your questions. Let me address -- let me address your concerns. It is our intent - and I'm stating this for the record - if your question is whether bringing Chicago under Senate Bill 95 is bad policy, that's not -- that's not your question. Am I eorrect? Okay, fine. I donlt Want to get in -- I don't want to mix our inquiries. It is our intent - and we believe that we have indicated this on Page 6, lines 15 through 19 - khe dollar amount of the diversion of Chicago's Pension Fund Tax is not to be included kn *he unfunded liability which is Ehe SEate is obligation. Specificallyy let me give you an example. Let us say that the Chicago Board of Education and their unions enter into a one-year contract. I am advised by the members of the Chicago Board of Education that under the terms of this, that diversion of the one-year pension tax amounts to fifty-one million dollars. In the obligation to fully fund actuarily all of the 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 pension funds, when *e get down to evaluating the needs of Chicago, the last fifty-one million dollars is not the State's obligatlon. That's what we intend to do by this language.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? The Lady from Cook, Senator -- one moment. Senator Schuneman.

Well, I -- I think our concern, Senator, has to do with with Whether or not, under the terms of this bill, the State would be assuming the one billion dollars in unfunded liability that noW exists in the Chicago Pension System, Which is presently an obligation of the City of Chicago.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

The -- the the Senate Bi11 95, although there is discussion that somehow that was intended to apply to the Chicago school system, I think the fact is that -- that What Was discussed was the State systems, and the Chicago School Teachers' System has never really been considered a part of the State systems.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

I disagree witb you from this point of view. Every year up until last year, the State contributed money to the Downstate Teachers' Pension Fund and to Chicago Teachers' Pension Fund. It was an obligation that *e -- we, the Statez has recoqnized and paid for. And it was, I believe: fair to say everyone's intent that that Pension Fund is the same obligation as the other pension funds that *e have included in Senate Bill 95, and defer to others Who worked more closely with you on Senate Bill 95 to confirm my statement. was their intent that the full fundin: 34  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Leqislative Day June 30, 1990 over the forty years include the Chicago Teachers' Pension Fund.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Cook, Senator Alexander.

Thank you, Mr. President. hate to belabor this issue, howeverz Iz too, with Senator Brookins and those who lve spokenz do not and cannot support this bill as its present form, and I would hope that the sponsor of this bill would take out or remove that part relating to the superintendent. Welve just come through a very traumatic experience trying to get our school systems in order and informing the parent associations and local whatnot so that the children can learn to be better students and graduate with certificates. And to make this exception fcr the superintendent of the larqest school system in the State is wrong. Not only thatz I have learned, I have heard - and I do believe my source that other support persons to this Superintendent who do not have all of the credentlals also will be asked to come to Chicago to serve. This is a bad signal to be sending. could support the bill in its present form if that portion was deleted .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator de1 Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Thank you, Mr. President. A question for the sponsor.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates hefll yield. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Senator Berman, how much do we lose in the Building Fund as a result of the tax transfer?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Eenator Berman.

The diversion represents fkfteen million dollars. This has -- 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 khis is being suggested in this bill because of the provision that was passed by the City Council and the Chicago Board of Education: I think it Was the year before last, that provided for the new Capital Development Program and the substantial funding of the Buildin: Fund so that that is very adequately now funded, and the funds are much more needed in the Educakion Fund than in the Building Fund.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator del Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Senator -- Senator Berman, I know that the Board is saying that the three-hundred-and-fifty-million Capital Program is in good shape, but 1et me tell you that there are many, many schools not included in that Program that are in need of repair. There are sehools that are severely overcrowded that are not included in that Program: and so I think that any loss of dollars from the Buildlng Fund will not be beneficial to the kids of the City of Chicaqo in the public school system.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Jones.

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. rise up in support of Senate Bill -- First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1591. Listening to my colleagues from b0th sides of the aisle as they address one particular issue in the bill, and that issue relates ko the Superintendent. The Superintendent technically does not have what he needs to be -- certain qualifications, even though that same superintendent has qualified and taught the courses that they want him to take: which is sort of ridiculous, but I don 't think qualifications on paper sets forth the right criteria for a child's learning. We have -- we have Ph.Ds running a11 through that central office downtown, and we had a Ph.D. 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislatkve Day June 30, 1990 superintendent prior to the Superintendent you currently have, and several more before them . But they could not even count correctly and spend the money, Senator Alexander, on the children in your district. Until yoâ got this Superintendent, at least he 'd know how to count. He'd know how to put money in khe schools where you live. He'd know how to do the job, and he's -- he's qualified, and if -- and if the others prior to him With all those Ph.Ds know so much about education, and fifty percent of our kids not even graduatin: from high school. So who's kiddin: who? You talk about the local school councils. Those same persons that you talked about, Senator de1 Valle, Senator Alexandery in your school councils - they wouldn't even give them the necessary information from central office until you got a superintendent that came in there and cared about the community being involved in the education of their children. I tried for twelve years talking to Ph.Ds about spending more money on poor ehildren, and those dollars came from the State of Illinois, and those same persons with a11 the technology, and all the education and Ph.Ds could not see in their mind to do the right thing to put the money where it belonged, and that is on the children who generate it and the children who need it. Now you have a superintendent there that wants to do the job, and the first thing he said, 'I am committed to the school reform'' spite of all of those who tried to stop him from doing the job that he was hired to do. So let's not kid ourselves. The edueators have been running the system the Ph.DS. so you're talking about sendinq the riqht signal to *he kids? Send the ri:ht signal. Support the person that's doing the job that you want them to do, and you should be in support of Senate Bill 1591.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Joyce.

STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30# 1990 Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. You know, -- I find it difficulk ko understand: given the hour, what we are doing. You know, I have stood here for twelve years. I have - - maybe six percent of the students in my district are in the public scbool system. Most of the kids are in the parochial school system. I have voted for the Public School Program every Session roll call after roll call. It's not the kids in my district that are being edueated in the public school system, and I am here prepared to support this legislation. If the hang-up is because we want to demand or require that a superinkendent go through some type of academic drill when he has displayed no need for that, if that's the hang-up, it's crazy. If there is some other problem here, you knokp I Would suggest that someone make some informal communication while We proceed With this bill, rather than hang ourselves up here. Xou know, a 1ot of Work has gone into this. This thing started out with a lot of problems. Theydve Worked and worked on this. That everyone seems to at least there seems to be a -- a -- a coalition sufficient to deal with this, to put this thing out. I think this is this is sheer erazy. Let's find out What Wedre doing here before we go too far. You know, Senator Brookins, Senator Alexander, you know, talk to somebody before this roll call, and let's resolve this and 9et this thing on.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Cook, Senator Collins.

ïes. Thank you, Mr. President. T rise in support of of this bill, not because don't have some eoncerns that were probably raised by soze of my constituents not necessarily my constituents, but some of the people in Chicago that respect. But I have to deal with the concerns of the studentsz and that's What I'm a11 about here: is to puttin: ehildren first. And the 38  STATR OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 basic reality is that if we don't receive this fifty-one million dollars generated from this legislation, there's a great possibility that ehe schools will not open in September, and I'm not willin: to wear that jacket. I've been engaged in negotiations here a11 day intenselyy for about three or four daysg as a matter of fact, on a similar issue, where someone was willing to allow a whole city to go down because they did not like a1l of What Was in a bill I planned. Well, I'm not willing to do that. And Senator Berman, -- my signature is on this Conference Committee Report. I would like to know from you, whether or not this requirement would be waived for future employees of the Board of Education.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Senator Collinsz 1et me indicate to you that the initial request from the Chicago Board regarding waiver of the administrative requirements was for a number of persons, in addition to Superintendent Kimbrough. That request was rejected, and that request is not in this bill. I will say to you that I can give you stronq arguments, perhaps, but at this point, I and the leadership in this Body, was not willing to open up more than just to Mr. Eimbrough. END OP TAPB TAPE

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Collins. SENATOR COLLINS) 39  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 If that is the intent of this legislatione I would urge all of my colleagues for God's sakey let's not let this bill pass. Yes, I too believe that we should go on and put forth a permanent school board. And I would hope that the Mayor Would see the wisdom of doing that for the good of the children back home. But for God's sakes, don't turn down fifty-one million dollarsy because the schools are in trouble. And like Senator Joyce said, those are your kids and my kids in that public school. Our children are being educated. And if you don't care, no one else cares. I would ask for a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Rustra.

Thank you, Mr. Presidenk and Members of the Senate. As listen to the debate about what we need to do to take care of the Chicago schools, am reminded, before I make my comments about this bill, that we Were here last year at this timer whereas' remember it, we did a few considerable thinqs for Chicago and its schools. The income tax surcharge which was passed at that time was divided equally between city and schools, and Chicago benefited in both ways by the city portion, khich helped solve your budget deficit, and of course by the formula wbich devoted monies also to Chicago schools. To this bill: I'm -- I'm particularly troubledy Senator Berman, because I know that you take great pride. as the Chairman of the Senate Education Committee, in the work that committee does in guiding and directtng the education policy of this State. Andg yet, here we are, late in the Session - very late in the Sesslon - witb a page and a half of an analysis, and a bill that's been dumped on our desk an hour ago or so, With a newspaper article that ran this morning for the tirst time, tellinq us about what is one of the most important and dramatic changes in education and pension 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 policy in the State of Illinois. We could have done this a month or tWo ago. We could have had Senate Education hearings on this committee hearinqs but We didn't. And here we are forcing our Members to take the Word of this Member or that Member about what actually this particular bill accomplishes or what it doesn't. It isn'e fair. isn't fair to our Members. It isnft falr to the taxpayers of this State that we would attempt a major change in Seate policy at this very late date. The provision of this analysis in front of me alone that elaims that the State really assumes over one billion dollars of unfunded liability, thereby charging the State of Illinois four to seven million dollars annually. Another provision of the analysis which says that according to the Illinois Economic and Fiscal Commission, this Conference Committee Report will cost the State a minimum of eighty million dollars a year to fully fund. These aren't the kinds of decisions you make in the closing minutes of a Legislative Session. And I suggest to you that We should have been about this business a month ago or two months ago when we were holding committee hearings. And We didnft do it that way, I suppose for the obvious reason, because in these last few minutes of a Session it's too easy to shove this skuff throuqh. Well, enough is enough. The hour is late. I suggest we reject this Conference Committee Report and start conducting the peoplets business as it should be conducted, through the orderly process of committee hearinqs and deliberation. That's somethinq this report didn't get.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Savickas.

Yes. Mr. President, Members of the Senaker I would just like to comment on the Superintendent and this deeision to allow him to participate as Superintendent Without some of these courses. To 41  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGOLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslative Day June 30, 1990 remind you that one of the courses that the Superintendent must take is a government relations course. A government relations course to a man that has served ten years in the California government - dealing with the Legislature in California for ten years. These are the type of courses theydre trying to say this man must take to be qualified to deal with the public and to and to deal with the school process and administer the school business. I think that these things are really part and parcel of the problem, that We spend too much time nitpicking When we have a serious concern here. And that serious concern is the continuation of the operation of our school system in Chicagoy and hoW best well to do that. And there is probably no best way, in each and every one of our minds, so we must go what -- what is available and each and every year try to improve. And I would suggest that we should just adopt this Conference Committee Report and go on with the business of the Senate.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Cook, Senator Alexander.

Thank you, Mr. Preskdent. Would the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he will.

Senator Berman, is there something in this bill - I think that Senator Collins addressed it, but I was not on the Floor at that time and did not hear *he full argumenE or discussion around it that addresses that thls present Superlntendent must get these credentials during the life of his contract, which is only three years? I'm trying to find it in this shortened version, and cannot.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman. 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislatkve Day June 30, 1990

This bill says - and I refer you to Page 23# lines 33, 34 and then Page 24, lines l and 2 - those set out the requirements for the General Superintendent of Chicago schools. And the lines that I refer you to say that the person appointed to this section is exempt from these provisions for the period January 1990 to June 30, 1993. That's the term of his contract. That's the only period that he is exempt for. If he gets a neW contract, he's he 's not exempt under thls bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Alexander.

This Would relate only to this one-time incident. Am correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Only to Kimbrough, and only for his present contract.

In the event he does not become certified, then the exemption Would not hold?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Well, if -- if he comes up for -- if he wants a new contract beyond June 3ûth of '93, he has to qualify under existknq law , not this law.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman from Cook, Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. rise in strong support of the Conference Committee Report on 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Senate Bill 1591. Having had Ehe opportunity, as I did along with the Speakerz to have dinner with Superintendent Kimbroughy and explain to him, unfortunately, that the State of Illinois, qiven its fiscal condition, was truly not in a position to offer the kind of money that he, as a new Superintendent, felt was necessary to bring some stability to that school system. To bring some stability in terms of a contract with the teachers, so that we would know, with no question, that the schools would open in September, and hopefully Would have a lonq-term contract so that there would be that stability in that system. This bill will afford the Chicago Board of Edueation the opportunity to garner, if they so choose, an additional sixty-six million dollars. I do not agree, frankly. that it is any way impacted upon the State of Illinois or its liability, actuarial or otherwise. And moreover, I would say to al1 of you from Chicago, 'dBe careful.g' Tf indeed we turn this bill down' you are saying to the people and the children of the Chicago school system, ''ïou're' stuck with a sixty-five- or seventy-million-dollar deficit, and there will be no chance of a contract.'' This is an alternative that has been discussed for quite some time, as a matter of fact. It's an alternative that some of us, frankly, don't think is the best alternative, but it is the alternative that is available to us, and I suggest the only one that is available to us, because when we passed out the four-billion-dollar education bill, we simply recognized ehat for no one of the nine hundred and forty-three or so school districts in Ehis Gtate was there enough money. And having had the opportunity to meet and discuss the sehool system with Superintendent Kimbrough, I could not more heartily agree With what Senator Jones and Senator Savickas says. To subject this individual a hlghly qualified indlvidual - to some esoteric, academic exercise is just plain silly, and we really ought not do it. Senate Bill 1591 will brinq suggest to you 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30: 1990 strongly - stability to the Chicago school system. And I urge an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Keats.

would say briefly, am sorry to constantly hear these references to Superintendent Kimbrouqh brouqht up . Many of us have said we are willing to help. That is not the issue. We understand the problems of the Superintendent. Idm sorry. That's not the problem . We could help. Many of us have been here long enough we remember the last time the Chicago school system went under, back in the late '70s. This bill is the exact same first paths they went down. Remember, their bi: problem was comingling of funds? They robbed Peter to pay Paul, and suddenly one day Peter ran out of money so they couldn't pay Paul. That's what this does. Let us not forget, it was a mere eleven years a:o when that system went broke doing exactly this. Por the good of your own people, don't do this to your own people again.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Brookins, for a second time.

I apologize for having rised a second time, but there's some ehings that I -- I must say. Last Spring we took the responsible voter so we was told, and We voted for reform, and we put into place al1 of them ideas and thoughts that We thought would work in the chicago school systemz only to send that paekage home and to be turned around because what we thought we was votinq for we did not vote for, and legislation and ideas Were slipped in there by organizations that was unbeknownst to us that did not do what we thought reform would do. A interim school board was named, and we thought that we had in place wbere a school board Would go into force. And a schocl board has not been named in Chicago yet. And 45  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Leqislative Day June 30' 1990 here that school board Went out and hired a man Whom they said was the best; paid him almost two times as much as the past superintendent - almost twice as much - and here he does not have the qualifications that lesser people that kork in the Board of Education in Chicago have. Now that's not eo say that because you have education and 'cause you've been to school and 'cause you have these skills make you better and great and et cetera. But it do goes to say that his school board: that it was not supposed to name him or hire him or give him that contract in the first plaae, has made a mistake in giving him a contract. And I say no. I'm not goinq to stand for it anymore. I'm also sayinq -- I'm also saying to you that he has fired people in the Board of Education with more qualifications than he has. So he should not have been there. Now I am also saying to you that if We're qoing to allow him the three-year door - that he knows that hels nok going to be there any longer than three years anyway - then what are We doing for ourselves? So I am saying to you that I am not going to vote to allow him to sit there unless he go back and get qualified under the rules, because I do not Want to send that signal down through the ranks of the Board of Education and to the other people thak are there.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Dupaqe, Senator Pawell.

I move the previous question.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman, to close.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I think this has been thoroughly debated. We are respondinq to the needs of teacbers Erom one end of the Skate to the other regarding early retirement. Number two, the members of the 46  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENEQAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Education Committee had the opportunity to meet Ted Rimbrough. don't think there was anybody that was at that dinner that wasn't impressed With him and who hasn't been impressed With some of the tough decisions that he has undertaken. To my friendy Senator Kustra, I agree With you that I Would have preferred to have this three months ago. You know and I know that's the way like to operate. But the Chicago Board Was hoping against hope that we could add money to the General State Ai6 Formula or to scbool funding so they wouldn't have to come in with this machination of shifting their own money. They would rather have had State money, but we didn't give it to them. And that wasnft known until this last week, when we finally passed our budget. NoW I would suggest to you this: we're responding to teachers upstate and doknstate. Wedre allowin: Chicago to use its oWn resources, not the Statefs resources, to open schools in November -- I mean in September, in September -- and we aEe encouraging -- we are encouraging a man to do what he 's hired to do# and that is to reform the Chicago school system, not to sit in a classroom to fulfill empty requirements. solicit your Aye vote for the children of a11 of the State of Illinois.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question isy shall the Senate adopt the Pirst Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1591. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposedz vote Nay. The votin: is apen. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Itdll be a long night. Have all voked who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Mr. Eecretary, please take khe record. On this question, there are 29 Ayes, 27 Nays, and the First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bi11 1591 is not adopted, and the Secretary shall so inform the House. Senate Bill 1700. The First Conference Committee Repart on Senate Bill 1700. Mr. Secretaryy please read the report.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30: 1990 First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1700. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Welch. I'm sorry. Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. President. The Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1700 the subject matter is civic centers. The Conference Committee Report changes the name of the Waukegan Metropolitan Exposition Auditorium Authority to the Lake County Authority, the geographical boundaries of which shall be the boundaries of Lake County, excludin: Waukegan. It requires the county board chairman to appolnt all new members and removes the current court -- board members upon this Act's effective date; changes the name of the Shaumburg Civic Center Authority to the Illinois International Convention Center and increases the board membership from seven to nine. After September l in '90# upon the expiration of the times of the remaininq three members of the Center East Civic Center Authority Board, their successor shall thereafter be appointed by the Mayor of Skokie with the adviee and consent of the corporate authorities of Skokie. Al1 appointments made by the Township Super of Niles shall be made with the advice and consent of the corporate authoritles of Niles Township. It gives an applicant with a facility with more than four-hundred-thousand square feet of exhibition space a base sum of fifteen million dollars - which is now twenty - and makes it eligible to receive ten million dollars of that amount beginning in FY'91, the balanee in 1Y'92, rather than ewenty million beglnninq in FY'92. It makes libraries eliqible for civic center funding) requires bonds to be issued in a total amount outstanding at any given time, not to exceed ten million; which amount is included within, and is not in addition to the two- hundred-million bond authorization for the purpose of making construction improvement grants by the Secretary of State. the 48  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 public libraries and library systems; requires the -- requires the General Assembly to appropriate monies from the civic eenter bond money to fund the grants; creates the park -- Forest Park Civic Center Authority, the Cave in Rock Civic Center Authority, and the Columbia Civie Center Authority, and finally, makes the De:alb County Agricultural Authorëty eligible to seek State financkal support for an Ag center university support facility and arena in cooperation with Northern Illinois University.

PRZSIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The Gentleman from Kankakee, Senator Joyce.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. First, the question is: Did this bill start out as the Cave in Rock Civic Center? It is in there now, I understand.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

Thatls correct.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce.

1111 get back to that one a little later. In this we are talking about ten million dollars for Rosemont. Are we not?

PRESIDING OFFICCR: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

Fifteen.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyee.

I'm sorry about that. Fifteen. We are talking about ten million dollars for a library fund in Chicago. Is that correet? 49  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

That's correct.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce.

On Paqe 52 of the bill - where this ten million dollars for the Chicago library system is as I read that, it says, ''not withstanding, the foregoing bonds shall be issued in a total amount outstanding at any given time not to exceed ten million dollarso'' Does that sound to you like it might be more than ten million dollars? If they pay the bond down, could they come back, you know, if they get -- if this money the first of July and then the first of August they pay down tWo million, can they come back for another two million?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

In my opinlon, I think youdre correct.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce.

So then we don't know how much the ten million dollars could be. And on Page 52, further down where we changed the lançuage, it sayse ''the General Assembly shall appropriaEe monies from the the fund to the Secretary of State and State Library and for the purpose of making such grants by the Secretary of State and the Skate Librarian under Seceion Not only -- could be more than ten million dollars, but it sounds like it would have to be if they would do this. And also Economic and Fiscal Commission happens to aqree with you, so does BOB, that it could indeed be 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslative Day June 30, 1990 more than ten million dollars. Any time they paid down they would be eligible for more. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft. SENATOR LUFT; Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce. SENATOR J.J. Joyce: Okay. NoW I'm going to get back to the Cave in Rock part. You know, this is -- this is a great deal for downstate Illinois. We've got fifteen million for Rosemont and ten million and Who knows how much for Chicago public libraries. And I -- I guess don't mind that if that's what we started out to do: but we are going to create a civic center in Cave in Rock -- an authority. Now everybody in here knows that that authority is not ever going to 9et any money. But for the privilege of creating that authority in Ehis little town in downstate Illinois, Cave Rockz it's goin: to cost twenty-five million - maybe more for two counties up North. Now that -- that's fine -- one county I guess - - yeah -- one county. It's just not a very good trade. And now the Cave in Rock Authority - I guess why I wanted to get back to that Was I think our history tells us that Cave in Rock was is this bi9 cave on the ziver. And as the travelers going up and down the river would go by this, people would stand a naked lady out there or some such thing, and the travelers would come in. They would be lured ing and as theydre lured in, the bandits inside of the cave would take them and rob them. think they had a better deal than the downstaters in this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Point of ozder. The Gentleman from Dupage/ Senator Philip.

51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Thank you, Mr. Presldent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I may have, perhaps, been the only Member sitting on the Floor of this Senate that's ever been to Cave in Rock. Oh -- there's -- there's -- Oh, there's three, four -- beautiful.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Point of order.

You -- you a1l know then, therets three saloons there, one restaurant, a gas station and a ferry...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) What happened to the cave?

that goes across the Ohio River. ... tell you one thing, We ought to try to help Cave in Rock. It's a beautiful town - great people. And I would suggest We a11 ought to support 1700.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman from Rock Island, Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. President. I have to agree With my esteemed -- Senator Jerome Joyce. You know, he -- he took most of what I had to say, but you know there 's a feW other things We lost in in this as a downstater, also. We -- we -- we lost Macomb. don't know -- I don't know Where the Macomb Civic Center and Western Illinois Civic Center west in this. All of the sudden we have a bill and at the last hours we a1l of the sudden get Rosemont and Schaumburg . And have no qualms with Ehose. I think those should be in, but why did we remove Western Illinois and Macomb from this bill? Well you know -- and I'm one of the signers of this -- of this Conference Committee, but I'm probably going to stand here and tell you that I - even though I signed it I'm probably going to have to vote against it# because of the perpetual item of a -- of the libraries. We would all like to 52  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 take home to our libraries downstate or anywhere else throughout the State of Illinois ten million dollars each and every year, potentially. And think that would be great, but that's something that's just not in the cards. Earlier We passed a - - a water systems bill that is being held up in the in the Rouse and appears to be goinq nowhere. And if We need to get some of these things going - if this is a pork barrel - I'm here to tell you that the radium and the DHMS and our water projects are not pork barrel, and but if you want a little pork, we'll probably give you some for some good projects. Let us have our downstate water. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Adams, Senator Donahue.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of tbe Senate. 1, too, rise in opposition of this Conference Committee Report. The other day we discussed Senate Bill 1700 and a number of our civic center authorities, and I would reiterake the fact that all we're doing is creating the opportunity for these people to apply for civic center money doesn't necessarily guarantee them anything. But We were told, or discussed an amendment that was put on this bill that dealt with the use of capital funds for operations. And that was the discussion then, when the bill went down. It went back and went into conference, and as it comes out it has none of our civic centers on it. We were told and kind of led along saying, ''Don't worry, we're just going to take out that amendment. Everything's going to be finey'' until *e see this filed at the very last ninute, and our civic centers are not in it. I think this has been handled very poorly, and I think it's unfair. I also see in here Where Northern Illinois University has the opportunity to have civic center monies for an auditorium. That was What Western Illinois, in Macomb, was trying to do with 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 our university kn conjunction with our city. I think it's unfair, and I hope we can defeat this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Dupa:e, Senator Karpiel. ! SENAPOR KARPIEL: ' Thank you, Mr. President. I'm not standing to defend the ! Rosemont or to defend taking out the downstate civic authorities: but someone mentioned Schaumburg. I just want to say that the Schaumburg Civic Center is not being approved in this -- in this Conference Committee Report. Schaumburg is already on the list. It's ready to go with its appllcation. The money is there. Al1 we lre doin: with Schaumburg in this -- in this Conference I Committee is changin: the name and adding tWo members to the I board. So just don't use Schaumburg as saying the North side -- North end of the State's qetting a11 this. They already :ot theirs. Thank you.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Lady from Cook, Senator MacDonald.

Yes. I just want to reiterate also what Senator Karpiel has said. This Schaumburg Convention Center is very: very important to our area, and it is -- will be a culmination of over six years of work. It has very sound financing to it. It has investment from UNOCAL and Hyatt Hotels, and it certainly is a very worthwhile component of this particular bill. And I stand in support of Senator Luft's bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft: to close.

Thank you, Mr. President. Iîd only like to point out to Senator Donahue, when the Conference Committee arrived in the Senate and included the seven or eight civic centers that -- one p 54  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ll3Eh Leqislative Day June 30, 1990 of whieh she mentioned - one person signed the Conference Committee Report - only one. Everybody else refused: including your side of the aisle. There Would have been no conferenee committee to deal with any subject matter dealing with civic centers had any of those -- or that list of civic centers had stayed on there. I would ask for a favorable roll call. PRESIDING OFFI ' CER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) j The question is, shall the Senate adopt the First Conference 1 Committee Report on Senate Bill 1700. Al1 in favor, vote Aye. I All opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Mr. , Secretary, please take the record. On this question, there are 30 Ayes, 24 Nays, l recorded as Present, and the Senate does confer <sicl with Ehe First Conference Committee ReporE on Senate Bill 1700, and this bill, having received a constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senator Watsonz what purpose you seek recognition?

Yes. Verification, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) It's in order. Gentlemen -- Ladies and Gentlemen, please be in your seats. We shall verify the affirmative vote. Mr. Secretaryz please verify the affirmative vote.

ACTING SECRETARY: (MR. HARRY) The following voted in the affirmative: Alexander, Berman, Brookins, Carrolle Collinsg Daleyy D'Arcoy DeAngelisp Dudycz, Ralph Dunn, Etheredge, Friedland, J.E. Joyce, Karpiel, Keats, Kustra, Lechowicz, Luft, Macdonald, Marovitz, Newhouse, Philip, Savickas, Schunemanz Smith# Topinkaz Weaverz Welch, Zlto and Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Watson, are there any questions of the affirmative 55  STATE 0F TLLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 vote?

Mr. President, this is a very strange roll call.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Ah, We dve seen better ones than this.

Senator Daley, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) He 's in -- Senator Daley 's in his seat.

Senator Brookins.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Back there. Senator Brookins is on the Floor.

Keats.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Keats is in his chair.

Okay.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) He hasn't moved.

That's it. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) On this question, there are 30 Ayes, 24 Nays: 1 recorded as Present. The Senate does adopk the First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1700. This bill, havlng received a constitutional majority: is hereby deelared passed. Do we have No. 9 - Supplemental No. 9? Wefll stand ln Recess until we get Supplemental No. 9. A feW minutes, please. The Gentleman fram Cook, Senator Marovitz, what purpose do you seek recognition?

56  1 STATE OP ILLINOIS ' 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 : Well, as long as wegre at ease -- just before we leave tonight, on your desk was passed out something about legislators ' night at White Sox Park. If any of you are interestedy it's on the 14th of September. And you get a ehance to see the first place Chieago White Sox against the first place Boston Red Sox. Bring your families. It's a Friday night. We made it on the weekend so you could...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Put him on, will you? Thanks. Senator Marovitz. Oh, I'm sorry. They're pueting in -- you're qoinq to have to wait. We -- we got the messaqe. September 14th. Comiskey Park. One moment, Adeline. .molmachine cutoffl...

Senator Geo-Karis, for what purpose do you arise?

Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate: I've been asked by the Governor's staff to tell you all that you're a1l invited after this great event tonight to the Governor's Mansion for a litkle repast.

All riqht. No, the Governor has extended to all a cordial invitation to join him at the conclusion of the Session, which I hope will be Within the hour. We are on Supplemental Calendar No. 9. Supplemental No. 9. Does everybody have a copy ef Supplemental 9? We have Senators Netsch, Collins, Tom Dunn, Jones and D'Arco on Supplemental No. 9. Senator Collins, are you ready on 2-8-9-97 All right. Ladies and Gentlemen, on Supplemental Senate Calendar No. 9, on the Order of Conference Committee Reporks - We 'll skip Senator Netsch's 2-8-7-2. It's not yet been distributed. On the Order of Supplemental Senate Calendar No. 9. Conference Committee Reports is a report with respect to House Bill 2-8-9-9, Madam Searetary.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislatlve Day June 30e 1990

second conference Committee Report on House Bill 2899.

Senator Coltins.

Yes. Thank you. 2899 is now in the same position that ie was when it left the House -- the Senate originally and went back to the House. It is the Chicaqo Transit's Authority bill. It noW has the kissing amendment ineluded, offered by Senator Watson, and I would just move for its adoptlon.

Senator Collins has moved the adoption of the Pirst Conference Committee -- Second Conference Report on House Bi11 2899. Discussion? Senator Marovitz.

Well, this is going to fly out of here. But just for the record, I think lt's a very bad idea for the Legislature to be making determinations very subjective determinations - about what ads are good and what ads are bad, what ads are in qood taste and what ads are in bad taste. I mean, one man's feast is another man's fancy. And the fact is this -- this may not be the the very best idea, but the faet is, who are we to put aur imprint and our approval on eertain ads if someone's willin: to pay for it. The ad is obviously not obseene. No one's saying that it is. It may be distasteful, but the fact ise I don'k think that's the Legislature's business.

Discussion? Diseussion? If noty the question is: shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bi11 2899. Those in favor wàll vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting's open. All voted who wish? Have al1 voted *ho wish? All voted who wisb? Take the reeord. On that question, there are 51 Ayes, 2 58  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Nays, 3 voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conferenee Committee Report on House Bill 2899: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 3-9-6-2. Senator Dunn. Madam Seeretary, please.

Pirst Conference Committee Report on House 3111 3962.

Senator Dunn.

Thank youz Mr. President. This is the agreement that the Governor is on board and will approve, as I understand. It exempts deliberations for final orders and decisions and opinions of the Gaming Board from the Open Meetin:s Act. Requires an application for an owner's license permittin: operations on 1/1/91 to be filed by 7/1/90. Allows wagering to be conducted with money or other negotlable currency as permitted by the board. The Governor is not on board on the two provtsions as follows: the -- the prohibition against issulng a license authorizinq river boats to dock in a munieipality of under two thousand - shall not apply to the second set of lkcenses. And secondlyy requires an owner's license to be issued to a river boat dock in East St. Louis. It's my understanding that the Governor has not taken a position on these two items - whether he Will veto them or not. I sugqest an Aye vote.

Discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS) Thank you, Mr. President. I stand in -- in support of this Conference Committee Report with -- with a eouple of caveats, I might. I would agree with -- With Senator Dunn that the Governor has not signed off on -- on some of the provisions. Qne of the problems that I have with the -- With the bill - and it's one that 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Leqislative Day June 30, 1990 we negotiated, but ie was part of the bailout of East St. Louis Was that the East St. Louis would be guaranteed a license. would hope that the Governor - in fact he is not goinq to use that as a -- a revenue stream - that he would amendatorily vebo this out of the Act whenever the time comes. I do have a small problem with khe cash on tbe boats, but I -- I think that is -- is offset by the fact that the real provision of that part of the bill is to provide that there is banking off premises. And think thatîs the key of the -- the cash and -- and that's meant to -- to give a little more direction to the board to allow people to get on and off without a1l of the hassle of having to stand in line to -- to -- to put in their chips or whatever. I think it's - - overall it's a good bill. It's a good attempt that Was made in order to -- to make sure that the board's interests are met and that some of the clean-up language is given. I don't think it goes far enouqh, but yet, at tbe same time, I ask for an Aye vote.

Further discussion? Senator Karpiel.

Thank you. Mr. President. Could you tell me khy, Senator Dunn, *he -- you've -- you've - now are allowing the small municipalities under two thousand population to apply for licenses?

Senator Dunn. SENATOR MARPIELZ I mean, is there some...

Senator Dunn.

I'm sorry, Senator Karpiel. I don't know the origin of that. If my staff person would come over maybe we could give you some 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30: 1990 input. I apologize for not having the answer.

Senator Karpiel. Senator Jacobs.

Thank you. Senator, if you want a direct answer, and I -- and I1m sure you do - the reason that uas taken out is -- is -- ls that Sauget had applied for a license and they were de-annexing from the county to be -- from the city to become part of -- part of the county so they could then apply for a license through the county. Inasmueh as they are being excluded from year one almost, by virtue of the fact that East St. Louls gets oney they have agreed to -- to -- to that type of a position and have stepped back from the firsk year lieense application With the agreement khae we would remove that proviso. That proviso was put in the first place at the request of the Representative Wyvetter Younge from there who knew that Sauqet would be coming in. And was agreement at that time. And in as much as Sauget has been willing to be so kind as to acquiesce, We thought we should remove that.

Further discussion? Senator Rlgney.

Question of the sponsor, Mr. President.

Sponsor indicates he will yield: Senator Rigney.

I'm trying to add up now just how many of these licenses are eommitted. First of ally as I understand it, I think there Will eventually be a total of ten licenses or twenty boats. Is that eorrect?

Senator T. Dunn.

61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30s 1990 Yes, Sir.

Senator Rigney.

We lre committing ourselves to a license for East St. Louis. That means two boats have to be there?

Senator Dunn.

Could be.

Senator Rigney.

Then I believe there's something about the Des Plaines River. There's -- in other words it only -- if a -- if an okner has a license, he has to put one boat on the Des Plaines. Is that it? Can he take the other one over to the Mississippi?

Senator Dunn.

I believe the intent is that if an owner has a license, he is restricted to -- in Will County, to Will County -- that he cannot take a license from Will County and transfer to the Mississippi. So it would restriet it to Will County.

Senator Riqneyv

Soe in other words: we're talking about two boats there. We lre talking about two boats in East St. Louis. And then didn't We do something on the Illinois also?

Senator Dunn. 62  86S tT hAT GENO EF RAI LLA LI SN SE OI MS BLY j ' REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990

There may be two issued on the Illinois. It's optional.

Senator Rigney.

Well: I just kind of wonder why wedre tying up a11 the licenses in this fashion. Why are We not just kind of letting free enterprise determine, you know, where they should be located?

Further discussion? Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor.

Indieates he will yield, Senator Rea.

With the commitment to East St. Louis, What effect will that have on the City of Cairo, who is preparing Eo make application within, perhaps, the next couple weeks? Would this...

Senator Dunn.

They would have to apply by July 1.

Senator Rea.

I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.

Senator Dunn.

They would have to apply by July 1 of this year.

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I understand that, but will -- by guaranteeing East St. Louis, will this elimtnate or jeopardize the City of Cairo?

Senator Dunn.

It does not. That's Within the discretion of the board.

Senator Rea. Further discussion? Purther discussion? Senator Jacobs: for the second time.

Just to clear up. And if I would have known I was going to be the -- the last speaker here, probably would not have rose again. But the issue is in -- concern with the dedication to East St. Louis and the one to Will County. Last year we did the one to Will County. Ilm the sponsor of the bill, and I was looking for tWo to my county. I don't even have a guarantee of that. But I'm not concerned with tbatz because we were asked by good responsible people to assist the Governor in finding a revenue skream factp we kere to bail out the -- the City of East St. Louis. We felt that one of the only Ways that they would be able to come up With any revenues Would be through the riverboat gambllng. So we acquiesced to that. It's not that wedre looking to give these licenses away. And, Senator Rigney, I understand your concern. But I have that same concern. And I understand Jimmy Rea's Senator Rea 's concern. But I think that -- that welre qoing to have a regional effect here. think we bre going to have an imaginary Mason-Dixon Line of which tWo will be issued on the Mississippi below that and two above that. And from that standpoint, it's al1 open competitiony *1th the exception of East St. Louis, only because the bailout. But the Governor as said earlier if the Governor does not desire to use that as a 64  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 revenue stream, I hope he vetoes that out of the bill.

Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Dunn, to close.

SENATOR DUNN: Thank you: Mr. President. I uroe an Aye vote.

The question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3962. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting's open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted kho wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 30 Ayes, 27 Nays, voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3962: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 1951. Senator Jones. Madam Secretary, please.

First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1951.

Senator Jones. SENATOR JONESI Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the -- of the Senaee. The First Conferenee Committee Report on Senate Bill 1951 is the omnibus pension bill. It contains many provisions in there for several systems, as well as the City of Chicago and the Chicago school Board. It also conkalns in Ehere *he provision of Senator Davidson there is a three-pereent increase with the survivor's annuity, which was not intentionally left out of Senate Bill 95 we passed last year. So that is a -- a change that we put in the bill. For the Chicago Police Annuity and Benefit Fund, provides a minimum survivor's benefit of fifty-percent of the earned retirement benefit for a11 widows .of policemen wbo die 65  STATE QF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 after January 1, 1991. It also allows a surviving spouse of a member killed in the line of duty to remarry before the age of sixty without losing benefits. For the Chieago Pire -- Fireman's Annuity and Benefit Fund' it raises the Widow 's annuity from three hundred and twenty-five dollars to four hundred dollars per month, and also contains the same provision as it do for a policeman as allowing a surviving spouse to remarry. And there's other minor benefits in here that the system , as well as the -- khe administration, has signed off on. They are provisions for the -- the Chieago municipal and the Chicago Municipal and Labor provisions. That is -- one of the hiqhlights of that provisions is after thirty years of service, there's no penalty for early retirement if you attain the age of fifty-five. NoW you are penalized and you have to wait until you're age sixty in order to receive full benefits. Many, many other provisions are in there thae I know calls for minor costs that has been approved by the adminiskration and the system. There are provisions for the county employees, the Chicago Park District, as well as the Metropolitan Sanltary District, the State Universities Retirement System . There's some clean-up language as well as the three-percent survivor's annuity for the City of Chlcago Teachers' Retirement System as well as the State Teachers ' Retirement System. There's some clean-up language as well as the three-percent survivor's annuity. And Chicago teachers -- one of the main provisions in there is that a teacher, after thirty years of servlce, will be able to retire without that discoune for their annuity. For the elected officials of the City of Chicagoz the alderman, there 's a -- there's a voluntary -- there's an Elected Official Optional Contribution Plan for the Chicaqo alderman. If they elected to participate in that type of pension system, they may do so. They can buy time for time they have served ân the city council, as well as the Park District and other loeal units 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 of government, but they have to pay the interest as well as their share that they would have had to pay had they belonged to that system. All these issues that are involved here have been signed off by the administration as well as tbe retirement systems. ask for a favorable vote on this Conference Committee Repork. PRESIDENT R0CK: Discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conferenee Committee Report on -- I'm sorry. Senator Schuneman.

Thank you, Mr. President. Idm not -- Senakor Jones may have mentioned this, buk I didn't pick up on if he did. For those of you Who are interested in what there may be in here for downstate people, there's not a lot. But in the case of the Teachers' Retirement System: the provision is in here to increase the alloWable payment for health insurance from fifty percent to seventy-five percent of eosts for those retired teachers that have been writing to you about that issue. The other issue I think you've heard a 1ot about is the one that would -- was asking for credit for military service. That is not in the bill and was really never on the table. There are a number of administratkve changes that are important to the State Employees' System, the Teachers' System, General Assembly and judges. Por the most part, the bill consists of Chicago and Cook County language in which both the employer and the employees have signed off. Senator Eriedland and I did sign the Conference Committee Report: and intend to vote for the bill. PRESIDENT ROCKJ Further discussion? Senator Reats.

Quiek question. hope my analysis is wrong. This says we are now eskablishing a pension fund for Chicago alderman allowing 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 the transfer of funds back and forth -- was put in at the last minute without agreement. Could you let us know about the Chieago alderman, please?

Senator Jones.

The Chicago the Chicago alderman would have the same benefits as you have, Senator Reats.

Further discussion? Senator Jones, to close.

just ask for a favorable vote on the Conference Committee Report.

The question ise shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bi11 1951. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The votingls open. A11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? A11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 55 Ayes, 1 Nay, l voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1951, and the bill, having received the required eonstitutional majority: is declared passed. 2217. Senator D'Arco. Madam Secretary, please.

First Conference Committee report on Senate Bill 2217. PRESIDENT ROCE Z senator D'Arco.

Thank you. Mr. President, this is the Conference Committee Report relating to the Chicago Medical Center District. It expands the boundaries of the District. It also increases the Mayor's appointment to the commission from one to three and 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslative Day June 30, 1990 eliminates the appointment of the Chicago Park District and the President of the County Board. It also provides that the commission is to administer and exercise ultimate authority with respect to the development and operation of the Chicago Teehnology Park. It also deletes a provision prohibiting the commission from restricting the construction or location of buildings within the district used or to be used by Cook County in connection with County Hospital and also by the State of Illinois in connection with all buildings owned and operated by the State of Illinois. don't know of any opposition. ask for a favorable vote .

Discussion? Senator Collins.

Senator D 'Arco: I'm sure that you knoW that last year there were several community groups concerned about this -- the expanding powers of this -- this commission.

Senator Collins.

Senator D'Arcoz I'm -- I'm -- I would like for you to answer one question, because last year there were a 1ot of concern about raised With -- mean -- over -- I mean community groups in reference to the expanding powers and duties of this commission and -- without adequate input from the community. Have you had any involvement at a1l with any of these groups, letting them know about what welre doing here? Such as ...tmachine cutoffl... Council and some of those other groups down in that area?

Senator D'Arco.

Yeah. The the concerns of the communiky groups are not with expanding the boundaries to Western Avenue and Western -- and 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 to Ogdon Boulevard -- Ogdon Boulevard to Western and Western Avenue on the West. Their concerns were with some property that the commission wanted to acquire in the district area. And those concerns have been resolved a long time ago. That is no longer an issue: and it was resolved to everyoneîs satisfaction. PRESIDENT ROCK : Further discussion? Any further discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2217. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay, and the voting's open. A1l voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? All'voted who wish? Take the record. On that queskion, there are 50 Ayes, 4 Nays, 2 voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2217, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. 28727 Senator Netsch. I'm told has been distributed. Madam Secretary, on the Order of Conference Committee Reports is a report with respect to House Bill 2-8-7-2, please. SECRETARY HAWKER : First Conferenee Committee Report on House Bill 2872. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Netsch. SENATOR NETSCH: Thank you, Mr. President. I would move for the adoption of the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 2872. By now, I think it must have twenty-seven different parts to it. I will, briefly, describe only the major ones. It does include the Will-Kankakee Development Authority Actz Which I believe was Senator Dunn's and Senator Joyce's. 1* includes the provisions which the Cook County Assessor sought havin: -- which basically authorized triennial assessmentz and also deal With landmark property. It includes Senator Rock's provision having to do With 70 I !  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 landmark property. It includes the Barton and -- the Canton and Bartonville TIF extension. It includes an extension to East St. Louis to allow them to file their home rule ordinanee. They -- the deadline was missed. It authorizes DCCA to fund a -- four additional not-for-profit regional tourism councils. Let's see. What else? 0h# does include the Misericordia provision, as has been known: and the electronic funds transfer study. What is perhaps equally important or more important is khat it -- oh, the most imporkant provision that it does include - or one of the most is that it does authorize the home rule communities to accelerate a payment that they would otherwise lose with the change in the Sales Tax Reform Act. So it is extremely important to Aurora, Bloomington, Chicago, Decatur, Joliet, Normal, Peoriay Springfield and Urbana. It does no* include the provision which authorized Chicago to impose a use tax to be collected by the State on automobile dealers in the county area and the surrounding county area. That not in this Conference Committee Report. would be happy to answer any questions.

Discussion? Senator Rigney.

Question of the sponsor.

Sponsor indicates she will yield, Senator Rigney.

The language for Canton and Bartonville extending those TIF districts for twelve years - that's a substantial chanqe. Who wanted that and why is it necessary?

Senator Netsch.

Senator Luft, I believe, was the initiator of that and will 71  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 respond.

Senator Luft.

Thank you, Mr. President. That was a bill that was passed and is on the Governor's Desk already. It extended the life of a TIF -- real estate TIF that was created prior to 1980. think there Were three. This reflected two of them. I don't know why the House Members persisted in incorporating in this bkll. We, in fact, conferred the amendments in the Senate bill today, and the bill, doing exactly what this doesy is on the Governords Desk.

Discussion? Further discussion? Senator Demuzio.

Well, thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Isn't this strange. Almost every provision in this bill, House Bill 2872, passed this Chamber on a little gem that went over to the Eouse, that had al1 oc our downstate water projects on, had the hundred million dollars for the School District Construction Bond Aet, was al1 stripped out, puE on this bkll, and I guess maybe the House is trying to send us a message that they don't inkend to call that bill this Session. That perhaps there is some other historic value, I guess, over the summer as we qo into the fall. just seems to me that a11 of the provisions that are in here are decent provisions. Theylre good provisions probably ouqht to be passed. It seems to me thaty you knowg there's a 1ot of surreptitious things going around -- alon: -- around here at this hour of the night. I've been here for sixteen years. I guess it happens every year.

Further discussion? Senator Severns.

72 i STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Thank you, Mr. President. Would the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDENT ROCK: Indicates she Will yield, Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: Well, I believe that the provisions outlined in 2872 are good, and I'm especially delighted that the community of Decatur and other home rule communities have the opportunity to finally get their cash flow that I think is deserved. I'm curious Why they have to apply for it. Why is not automatic? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Netsch. SENATOR NETSCH: The request came from the Department of Revenue, and I cannot explain it further than that. They asked that they -- that that provision be included. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: I -- I see Director Sweet on the Floor, and 1111 intend to get my answer from him. I urge an Aye vote. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank you, Mr. President. I wondt belabor the point. I guess, you know. again just shows, and I got to agree with Senator Demuzio. The sales tax provision which everybody else wants the big guys Want - they get. Here we from downstate, both on both sides of the aisle, Walk home again being the victim of the other side of the rotunda that won't even call our damn bills. So let's just pass this thing, get the hell out of here and go on home.  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslatkve Day June 30, 1990

Furkher discussion? Senator Donahue.

Thank yau, Mr. President. Would just add one thing to Senator Demuzio 's comments - is that not everythin: in this bill bas passed the Senate. And one of those provisions...

Senator Demuzio. Thank you. I9m sorry, Senator Donahue.

Thatfs alright. -- dramatic change in our regional tourism councils and the fact that they will be subject to open meetings. That has not passed the Senatez and I'd just point out to the Members that thatls in here. PRESIDENT ROCK; Further discussion? Senator Netscb, to close.

Thank you. There are: think generally, non-controversial and excellent provisions in here, some of which are quite important. Senator Demuzio, to you I would say only that many of the provisions have been in this Conference Committee Report in its various lives, and I did vote for 3153 also.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The question is, shall the Senate adopt the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 2872. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wlsh? Have a1l voted who wish? Take Ehe record. On thak question, the Ayes are 56, the Nays are none voting Present. The Senate does adopt the First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 2872: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majoritye is declared passed. Number ..g tmaehine cutoffl... Senator Geo-Karis.

74  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslatkve Day June 30, 1990 Point of inquiry. Have we gotten al1 our appropriation bills passed?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Not everything I have is passed.

Are are they being surreptitiously held in the House, just like they wouldndt even call the amnesty bi1l...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I think youdre right.

You're darned right I am. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIOJ That's right. Right on. Anymore? A11 right. Ten. We ready? No, wedre no* ready. House Bill 4126. It's my understanding that wefre not loaded properlyy but it's showing up on the board, so if no one complains, Madam Secretary , House Bill 4126.

First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 4126.

PRESIDING OPFICCR: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) No. Take -- Whoa -- Whoa -- Whoa. Al1 right. Take it out cf the record. There will be another supplemental out momentarily Wikh tWo additional items. Messages from the House.

A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am dirêcted to inform *he Senate that the House of Representatives has refused to adopt the First Conference Commkttee Report on Genate Bkll 1136 and requests a Second Committee of Conference to consider the differences between the two Houses in regards to Amendments No. 1 and 2. Action taken by the House, June 30, 1990.

75  STATE OP ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30# 1990 .a.tmachine cutoffl...Messages from the House. Oh# I'm sorry. a.a lmachine cutoffl.o.All right. The House has made a request that we accede to the request for a Second Conference Committee on 1136. Senator D 'Arco moves to accede to that request. Without objection, leave is granted. Supplemental Calendar No. 11 has been distributed. I would ask al1 the Members to take a look on their desks amidst the wealth of paper we a11 have and see if you bave Supplemental Calendar No. ll. These are the last two items on the reqular Calendar -- on the regular Supplemental Calendar. Thank you. ...tmachine cutoffl... Senator Raica, are you ready to go, sir? Good. As soon as the computer's ready, we'11 a11 be ready . Senator Raica, while we're waitin: on the computer and getting our papers in order, perhaps we could qo to the Order of Conference Committee Reports. This is Supplemenkal Senate Calendar No. 11. To the best of my knowledge, this is the last of the supplemental Calendars. Thank you very mucb. Thank you for your patience. know there are some Jmon: you who are disappointed, but perhaps we can find a twelfth if we push it. On the Order of Conference Committee Reports is a report with respect to Senate Bill 2-1-2-7. 2-1-2-7, Madam Seeretary, please.

First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2-1-2-7.

Senator Raica.

Thank you, Mr. president, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 2-1-2-7 allows IDPH to make grants to Level trauma centers. This -- the Department of Public Hea1th has received a five-million-dollar appropriation. This is the substantive languaqe. It is agreed to by the Governor, by the City of Chicagoz and by the Department of Public Hea1th. Unless a Member has some objection, I solicit an Aye vote. 76 l 86S tT hAG TENO ER FAI LLA LS IN SO EM IS BLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 PRESIDENT ROCK: Al1 right. The Gentleman has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2-1-2-7. Discussion? Senator Demuzko. SENATOR DEMUZIO: Well, thank you, Mr. President. I don 't recollect any trauma centers other than Urbana and Peoria: south of Springfield. The three that I see there are in St. Louis. ïou knoW, we had a rural health program, and we asked for a little money around here and put in some money - got zero. Got a program that doesn 't do anything because there isn't any money, but we got five million dollars for this program. Five million bucks for this program. When this thing is al1 over With tomorrow: I'd like for everyone to sit around and analyze just exactly what we did in this Session. I dondt, think wedre going to be too pleased with ourselves. PRESIDENT ROCK: Furkher discussion? Senator Rea. SENATOR REA: Thank you, Mr. Presldent. Senator Demuzio is exactly riqht. %ou know, this is something that We have been working on for quite some time in terms of a primary health care package. And then we -- we do not find the money to fund the program - a comprehensive good program that we 've been working on for the last two or three years. And then, a11 at once, we find five million dollars here for this here. And I don't say thaE there's no* a neede but as Senator Demuzio said, you know, it's Level 1. I don't see any Level 11 in here, which gets to other parts of the State. So I -- I have some real problems with this. I think that we ought to get our priorities in order. PRESIDENT ROCK: Further discussion? Senator Topinka. 77 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslative Day June 30, 1990

ïes. Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, stand in support of this bill, because on numerous occasions when we've had trauma legislation with very uneven cash flows that would be able to support such a program because the taxation was involved such things as traffic tickets and various other things that 1ed to trauma. And then we talked about liquor and we talked about cigarettes and -- the lottery - a1l sorts of ideas that had jusk a very uneven flow of currency coming into a program. This is good because we do provide a funding source. Itfs solid. It's given. You can see, feel, and touch 1* will deliver on the job. Our trauma system has taken a terrible beating. It's not goin: to solve everybody 's problem , but sure is a qood first step.

Further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Raicay you may close.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senator Rea and Senator Demuzio, I don't know hoW else to put We had a bill here at the beginning of the year, I think it was back in -- in February and March that we put in. And we would have charged fines to -- to drivers who were convicted of certain traffic offenses. That Would have given Level and Level 11 trauma centers, throughout the State, thirty-nine million dollars. You rejeceed khat. You said youfre qoing to feel bad when we go baek home. This is five million dollars, and it's five million dollars needed to these trauma centers. This is the language that IDPH needs to -- to put this five-million-dollar mechanism in shape. And I dondt think we can afford anyone to die because we neglected to put the wordlng in. And I just solicit an Aye vote. 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 END OF TAPE TAPE 3

Question is: shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2-1-2-7. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the votin: is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 53 Ayes, 1 Nay, 1 voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 2-1-2-7, and the bill, havinq received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. On the Order of Conference Committee Reportsz Madam Secretary, there's a report with respeck to Senate 3i11 1951, please. 1591, I'm sorry. 1-5-9-1.

Second Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1591.

Senator Berman.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Second Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1591 is identical to the First Conference Commlttee Report on Senate Bill 1591. We debated it extensively. I'd be glad to respond to any questions, and I ask for an affirmative vote. PRESIDENT ROCK ) Senator -- discussion? Senator lhilip.

Thank you: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. If you downstaters thought that last bill was badz this one -- 79 t  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legkslative Day June 30, 1990 this one is really bad. You realize what you dre doing for the first time? For the first time in the history of the State of Illinois, youdre allowing a school district to take funds from the Building Fund, the Pension Fund, and make it for teachers' salaries. Now if that's a good policy for the State of Illinois, I don't know what is a good policy. Now why donlt we once one time during .this Session - do what's right? Do the right thing and kill this damn thing dead.

Further discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. -- I know the opposition here appears to be anti-chicago School District, and it's just simply not that at all. I came to the office this morning very early, and I opened the first papery and it happened to be the Tribune, and -- and read the story on the front page, and I Was really shocked that that something this large, and of this magnitude was being presented today. And Senator Berman, you and I talked on the phone yesterday, and -- and it would have been an ideal time to have shared this with usr I I would thinkz but that didn 't happen. Senator Kustra very - - very ably mentioned earlier that this is a massive chanqe in State public policy, and to do thls on the final night I think is a -- is a terrible miscarriage of what our responsibility really is, and I -- I would ask you, sir, do you believe that there is a fiscal impact in -- in FY '91 from the State's budget?

Senator Berman.

No.

Senator Maitland. 80 I STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 SENATOR MAITLAND: Why? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Berman. SENATOR BERMAN: The Chicago ls using its own funds to open its own schools. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Senator, what about the State's share for the employer's contribution? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Berman. SENATOR BERMAN: This is the -- if you're talking about the Senate Bill 95 impact is that what you're inquiring about? Or are you talking about the six-percent levy from the Chicago Board of Education for the pension? PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Maitland. SENATOR MAITLAND: Talking about the language on Page 6, starting with line 8. PRESIDENT ROCK: Senator Berman. SENATOR BERMAN: Ilm sorry, page 6, line if you -- Itm sorry. Page -- just nod -- Page 6, line 8. Is that what you're referring to? Thatts Senate Bill 95# and I refer you to lines 15 through 19, which specîfkcally say that there is no obligation under Senate Bill 95 for the diversion that this bill authorizes regarding this extra Chicago tax, which has been used to provlde funds for the Chica:o Teachers' Pension Fund, which is better funded, because of that 81  l I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30# 1990 Chicago tax, than almost any other Pension Fund.

Senator Maitland.

So it can or cannot be then, a fiscal responsibility of the State in FY'91?

Senator Berman.

The diversion that youdre authorizing here is not going to be an obligation of the State at any time -- at any time. That's what those -- that languaqe starting with the word ''not'' on line 15 means. This is not included in the obligation of the State.

A11 right. Senator Maitland.

Well, my colleagues in the Senate, I think what wedre demonstrating here tonight is a confusion on this bill. I don't care Whether you fre on this side of the aisle or on that side of the aisle: this is a very serious, serious issue to be dealing with at three-fifteen in the morning. It absolutely is. I think we defeated this bill before, and we ought to defeat it now.

Further discussion? Senator Fawell.

Can the sponsor yield for a question?

Sponsor indicates he Will yield, Senator Fawell.

Can you tell me what the impact on the State will be for the downstate pension? How much are we obligating ourselves for that per year? 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30# 1990

Senator Berman.

Senator Demuzlo asked those questions. I believe the impact is zero.

Senator Fawell.

We are not going to be responsible for funding any of that additional pension when these teachers retire early and can pick up their pension?

Senator Berman.

There is an impact Statewide, dependinq upon the number of teachers that may take advantage of the early retirement. Yes. That may have an impact.

Senator Fawell.

That's one of the things that we're talking about. According to our analysis, that impact - and it's -- this is accordin: to the Illinois Economic Fiscal Commission says this bill is goin: to cost us seventy-four million dollars a year to fully fund, without including the added cost of the change in retirement age. Thatls why welre so concerned about this bill. Youdre talking literally millions of dollars: and, you know, we'd like to try and :et this thing straightened out one way or another.

Furkher discussion? Senator Schuneman.

Thank you: Mr. President. Pirst of all, of course the bill 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS ! 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30y 1990 has an impact on the downstate teachers' system. To the extent that people retire early: it's going to increase the eost, Senator. You know that. This this for those of you downstate, you know, please -- please think about this. This is not the time for the State to adopt a pension. Wepve got our own problems. The -- there are five State pensions. The State Employees' Retirement Systemz the DoWnstate Teachers' Retirement System, the University System, the Judges, and the General Assembly. Those are the five State systems. Chicago has their own system. We should not be adoptin: their system. We've got enough problems and enough unfunded liability of our own . Now -- if there's some question in your mind, and you 're a downstater, don't you think you oWe it to your constituents at least to put off a vote on this issue, until you know for sure who 's right about khe issue? We shouldn't be looking at this tonight for the first time, and not know for sure whether you're signing on your constituents to pick up the tab for the pension system in the City of Chicago. think that's precisely What this is intended to do. So think seriously about it, if you're a downstater.

Further discussion? Senator Demuzio.

-- wasn't -- I -- rise in support of this. You know, again, you know, I hate to reiterate and be redundant over what we've already discussed -- discussed earlier, but I do know the hour is laee. The issue has been debated before. This is something that should have been taken care of as Senate Bi1l 95 last time. It was not. It Was one of those -- it was the only pension system that was not included in that provision. The unfunded liability -- with the funded -- the liability with respect to the fifty-one million dollars to which Senator Berman referred to either this time or last time is going to be the obligation of the Chicago 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 Teachers' System. It's Written into the bill. The provisions that are being added are the same provisions that are being added for the Chicago Teachers' Pension System as they are for the downstate system, and I Would rise in -- in support this evening.

A11 riqht. Further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Berman, to close, please.

Roll call, Mr. President.

Question is, shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1-5-9-1. 1591. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 30 Ayes, 27 Nays, l voting Present. Senate Bill the - - the Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1591: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Maitland, for what purpose do you arise, sir?

Thank you, Mr. President. Just to verify the affirmative vote, please.

That request is in order. A1l right. Senator Maitland has requesEed a verification. I Wish *he Members would please be in their seats. Madam Secretary, read the afflrmatkve rollg please.

The following Members voted in the affirmative: Alexander, Berman, Brookins, Carroll, Collins, Daley, D'Arco, de1 Valle, Demuzio, Thomas Dunn, Hall, Holmberg, Jacobs, Jones, J.E. Joyce, Joyce, Kelly, Lechowicz, Luft, Marovitz, Netsch, Newhouse, 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 O 'Daniely Rea, Savickas, Severns, Smith' Welch, Zito and Mr. President.

Senator Maitlandz you question khe presence of any Member?

Senator D'Arco.

Senator D'Arco's doWn on my right hand.

Senator Jacobs.

Senator Jacobs is in his seat.

Oh, he's asleep. Okay, I see him.

A1l right. The roll has been verified. Oa that questkon, there are 30 Ayesz 27 Nays, 1 vo'ting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conferenee Committee Report on Senate Bill 1591, and the bill, having received the required eonstitutional majority, is declared passed. Any other Member have any futther business? Senator Smith, for what purpose do you arise?

I have a House Bill 3580, please.

All right. The Lady has requesked permission to go to the Order of Consideration Postponed. On the Order of Postponed Consideration is House Bill 3580, Madam Seeretary.

First Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3580. PRESIDENT R0CK: Senator Smith.

86  l : 86S tT hAT GENo Er RAL ILL AI SN SO EM IS BLY REGULAR sEssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislatëve Day June 30e 1990 Thank you, Mr. President. House Bill 3580 Conference Committee, the bill has -- is a conpromise bekween the DCFS and the Senate and the House sponsors, plus Foster Care Parents Organixation. It has been debated today, and al1 I'm asking for is a favorable vote.

Al1 right. Senator Smith has moved the adoption of the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3580. Discussion? Senator Topinka.

Mra President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Xes, it Was debated today, and yes, it was defeated as it has been defeated before, because it would mandate us to a one-hundred-percent rating with whatever the federal government has, Where we would now lock in - no matter what our fiscal condition would be, no matter what the State's economy would be at any given time - do we have money or not, Wedre locked in. We currently have the flexibility of the appropriations process. It works. There is no reason to change itz and at this hour of the morninq, there is no reason to resurrect this bill, and let it die a quiet death.

Senator Kustra.

Thank you: Mr. President and Members of the Senate. There 's a crisis in foster care in Ehis State. This is a bill for kids, and considering what we passed ou* of here tonight, I don't see any problem at a11 in voting for this.

Question 1s: shall the Senate adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3580. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting's open. A1l voted Who Wish? Rave 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 a11 voted who wish? A1l voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 38 Ayes, 11 Nays, voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Committee Report on House Bill 3580, and the bill, having received the required constitutlonal majority, is declared passed. Resolutions, Madam Secretary. Thatfs next.

Senate Joint Resolution 2-1-2. (Secretary reads SJR Ho. 212)

Senator Demuzio.

Mr. Presidenty Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, this is the adjournment resolution. Calls us to return Thursday, November the 8th, before Thanksgiving, to eat whatever is left, and if Wedre lucky it seems to me that we suspend the rules and adopt this resolution, maybe We won't have to listen to Senator Carroll's State of the State. I Would move to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 212.

A1l right. ïoudve heard the motion. Senator Demuzio has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 212. Kll in favor, kndicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The motion carrtes. The rules are suspended. senator Demuzio now moves the adoption Senate Joint Resolution 212. Al1 in favor, indicate by sayinq Aye . A11 opposed. The Ayes have it. The resolutionds adopted. Madam Secretary, have there been any objections filed to the Resolutions Consent Calendar?

There have been no objectkons filed. 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislatkve Day June 30, 1990

No objections having been filed: Senator Demuzio maves the adoption of the Senate Resolutions Consent Calendar. A1l in favor, indicate by sayin: Aye. A11 opposed. The Ayes have The resolutions are adopted. If I can have your attention, Ladies and Gentlemen. Senator Geo-Karis asked me to remind you the Governor has cordially invited you a11 to the mansion. In the mean time, in accordance with our Statutory and Constitutional duty, the Chair will recoçnize Senator Carroll.

Thank your Mr. President, LadieE and Gentlemen of the Senate. Firsty let me truly thank President Rock, Senator Philip - on behalf of my colleagues - Senator Hall, Senator Etheredge, Senator Maitland, our staff directors, Marcia Thompson and John Kunzeman, and a11 the Members of the Senate for doing that, which in March, people said We could not do, and that is to craft a budget that had no new taxes, ye* paid for a1l of our services in a timely fashion; made sure that seniors got their grants; made sure that bospitals stayed open. And Mr. President, Members of the Senate, under Article VIII of the Constitution of the State of Illinois, Section 2B, the General Assembly, by law: shall make appropriations for a11 expenditures of public funds by the State. Appropriations for a fiscal year shall not exceed the funds estimated to be available during the year. Let me announce that the Senate plan has been implemented, and now implemented by the Housez and on the Governor's Desk. We uill be approprlating thirteen billion eight million one hundred twenty-three thousand nine hundred dollars of General Revenue. Another thirteen billion two hundred and ninety-nine million three hundred and seventy-three thousand seven hundred in other funds. What that means is, the budqet as introduced by the Governor, was twelve billion nine hundred sixty-nine million, including two hundred and 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 3û, 1990 thkrty mkllkon dollars of taxes that we did not, fn Eactz pass. However, we did increase federal income to the State by some fifty-one million. We will use transfers from the feeder funds cf some twenty million. There is in the bank tonightz at the close of business, three hundred ninety-five million dollars: Whkch is a hundred and twenty million over that which the Governor projected. We believe, and there's still some dispute With the Bureau on this, that they will lapse permanently forty-eight million, and they will decrease lapse spending by some forty-five million. That means that there is available for appropriations, thirteen billion twenty-three million. We have appropriated thirteen billion seven million. If every bill we have passed is signed into 1aw by the Governor, and fully spent under current revenue projections, the bank balance for the new Governor on June 30th of 1991 would be tWo hundred and ninety-one million. We have met the constitutional mandate, Mr. President. And I congratulate a11 the Members of the Senate for the unanimous support of this fiscal constraint, staying within available revenue.

Senator Carroll, thank you. Any other Member have any announcement or business? Senator Geo-Karis.

Mr. President, I want to Wish you a happy summer, and everyone else here, and a happy 4th of July, and many thanks for putting up with us.

Thank you, ma'am . All right. If there is no further business to come before the Senate -- allow me just a moment to check Wkth the House and see if, indeed, theyfre -- hey listen -- we've waited this long, I'm just qoing to call dem and say it's -- Ilve got a message for the House, I Want to give it to them personally . ... lmachine cutoffl... -- thfs wkll trouble everybody, but 90 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 113th Legislative Day June 30, 1990 think wefre ready to adjournz Genator Carroll. If there is no further business to come before the Senate, Senator Severns will move that the Senate stand adjourned until November the 8th at the hour of twelve o'clock noon. Ladies and Gentlemen: congratulations on a job Welk doqe. Senate stands adjourned. 91 REPORT: TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOTS 90/:0/16 PAGE: 00l 86TH GENERAL ASSE#BLY 15:26:21 SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTION DF DEBATE INDEX JUNE 304 1990 H8*1550 CORFERENCE PAGE H:-2672 CGNFERfNCE PAGE H:-2899 CONFERENCE PAGE H8-3024 CONFERENCE PAGE HB-326t CONFERENCE PAGE 88-3580 CONFERENCE PAGE H8-3843 CONFERENCE PAGE H8-3875 EONFERENCE PAGE H8-3962 CONFERENCE PAGE H8-4124 CORFERENCE PAG6 HB-#126 CONFERENEE PAGE PAGE w VslYîl :3-41 . sb-ts26 gt0U COT NFOF EREREC NCEORD PAGE P PAGE Uj s S8 B-17ûoCONF 195t E EONFERENCF - PAGE 58-2127 CORFERENCE PAGE 58-2217 CONFERENCE PAGE s8-2231 EONFERENCE PAGE s:R-02t0 ADOPTED PAGE sJR-o2l1 REEOLUTION OFFERED PAGE sJR-n2l2 ADDPTEO PAGE SUBJECT MATTER REEESS PAGE 20 SENATE RECQNVENES PAGE 22 HESSAGES FRON THE HDUSE PAGE 75 RESOLUTIONS CONSENT CALENDAR - ADOPTED PAGE 88 ADJGURNMENT PAGE 91