Illinois Senate Floor Debate — July 12, 1993

The hour of four having arrived, the Senate will please come to order. And if the Members Would please riser and our friends in ehe gallery please rise: for the prayer. The prayer Will be, today, by Pastor Gillett, Elllott Avenue Baptist Church, Springfieldr Illinois. Pastor Gillett.

(Prayer by Pastor Gillett)

.. . tmicrophone cutoffl...of the Journal.

Senate Journals of Wednesdayr July 7th7 Thursday, July 8th7 and Priday, July 9, 1993.

Senator Butler.

Mr. President, I move that the Journal -- Journals jusk read by the Secretary be approved, unless some Senator has additions or corrections to offer.

Senator Butler moves to approve the Journal just read. There being no objection, so ordered. Senator Carroll, for what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Mr. Presldent. For purposes of request of the Prestdent that there be a Democratic Caucus immediately in Senator Jones ' Office . Caucus has actually already started , but for purpose of announcement , to begin the Caucus for the Demoeratic side .

Senator Carroll, that request is always in order. The Senate Nill stand at ease until the Democrat Caucus has concluded r and We 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12g 1993 hope shortly . (SENATE STANDS AT EASE) (SENATE RECONVENES)

The hour of 7:30 having arrlved; the Senate Will please come to order . We 've had some requests for videotaping the Session tonlght: WCIA-TV, WCIS-TV <sic>' WFLD-TV and WAND-TV . Is leave granted? Leave ts granted . Committee Reports.

Senator Weaver, Chair of the Colnmittee on Rules, reports that the following Legislative Measures have been assigned to committees: Re-referred from the Executive Com ittee to the Committee on Rules Conference Conmliktee Report to Senate Bill 677 , and House Joint Resolution 65; referred ta the Insurance , Pensions and Licensed Activities Conmittee - Conference Committee Report to House Bill 1974 ; referred t.o the Conunittee on Judiciary - Conference Conmtittee Report to Senate Bill 483 ; referred to the Committee on Local Government and Elections - the motion to concur with Hcuse M endments l and 2 to Senate Bi11 706; and Be Approved for Conslderation - Conference Committee Reports to Senate Bill 677r and House Bills 991 and 1587; Conference Committee Report No. 2 to House Bill 300; and the notion to concur With House M endment No. 1 t.o Senat:e Bi11 1105; and Hcuse Joint Resolut1on 65. FRESIDENT PEILIP l Messages from the House .

A Message from the House by Mr. Rossi , Clerk . 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate thak the House of Representatives has refused to recede from their Amendments numbered 1, 2 and 5 to a bill of the following title, 1 to wit: Senate Bill 498. I am further directed to inform the Senate that the Hcuse of ; Representatives requests a First Committee of Conferencez to consist of flve Members from each Housey to consider the differences of the two Houses in regard to the anendments to the blll. 1

Senator Butler moves we accede to the request of the House for a Second Conference Committee Report <sic>.

A Message from the House by Mr. Rossir Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed eo inform the Senate that the Hcuse of Representatives has refused to concur With the Senate in the adoption of their amendment to a bill of the follcwing ! title, to wit: House Bill 2282, with Senate Amendment No. 1. Non-concurred ln by the House, July 12r 1993. To the Honorable President of the Senate - In compliance With the provisions of the Constitution of the State of Illinois: I am forwarding herewith the enclosed Senate Billr as vetoed by the Governor, together with his objections. : Senate Bill 62. Respectively g George -- or, Respectfully , George H . Ryan : Secre tary of State .

Introduction of Bills .

Senate Bill 1110r offered by Senators Shadid and Hawkinson . 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislatlve Day July l2y 1993 (Secretary reads title of bill) 1st Readlng of the bill. Senate Bill 1111, offered by Senator Sieben. (Secretary reads title of bill) Also lst Reading of that billr Mr. President. I PRESIDENT PHILIP) I Mr. Secretary, have there been any moticns filed? I SECRETARY HARRY; Yes, Mr. President. Senator Jones has filed a motion with respect to House Bill 1861.

Senator Jones. Senator Jcnesr for What purpose do you rise?

Thank you , Mr . President. I ask leave to withdraw the motlon.

Leave is granted . ...(microphone cutoff)...bottom of page 9 of the Calendarê on the Order of Concurrence y Senate Bill 956 . Mr . Secretary , read the b111.

I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their M endment No . 4 to Senate Bill 956. Filed by Senator Hawkinson .

Senator Hawkinson .

Thank you , Mr. President. Senate Bill 956 contains the recolnmendations of the Governor Is Task Force on Crime and Corrections . It contains the original bill, which this Body passed cn April 16th by a vate of 53 to 1, and that one negative vote was a mistake , and the Senator rose to correct it verbally . The House has amended Senate Bill 956 with House M endment No . 4, which tightens the bill up and also adds some of the other 4  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERALASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION 1 SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12r 1993 recommendations from the Task Force, notably the recommendation i and language for the supermax prison, which was an important recommendation of the Task Force. In addition to that, the House I haS bi%htened up the requirements. If you îll remembery in our i I original bill: we did not permit Class X offenders to qualify for any of the earned -- increased earned time or the boot camp or the electronic detention. The House has further tightened that by saying that if you 've been in prison twice before, you are -- you Will not be eligible for the increased earned time, and Whlle this restriets it somewhat more than our bill, I think it's an i appropriate amendnent. We also have included provislons from our Senate Bi11 483, which deals with the penalties for aggravated assault on correctional employees, which is an important measu re ... ;

May we please have some crder . Now , this is -- this is the final action on this bill. Thank you. Go ahead, Senator.

.. q which is an impcrtant neasure to proteet our correctional emplayees from assault by officers <sic> . It authorizes the use of closed circuit television testinony for incarcerated defendants. We've had a similar provision in the Judiclary Committee, and I think the provision in this amendment ls crafted to meet the objecticns tl nat were raised lnitially in the Judiciary Committee , in that it requires the approval of the court before the closed clrcuit TV can be authorized. This ls an lmpcrtant measure . It contains our original bill, with the amendments that I have described. We have a real crisls in corrections With overcrowding . As I explained in April when we passed this 53 to 1y this is aimed not at early release, but it is aimed at protecting the public by reducing the rate of recidivism . Right now , forty percent cf the inmates in our prison are there who have 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 ! gone frcm prison right out into society and have victimized society. Statistics have shown that where they 've gone through a boot camp or they have received schooling or they have received a skill, that they are less likely to go out and further prey upon the public. I think this is an important measure that deserves ' our support. I'd be happy to answer any questions; ctherwiser I would ask for our concurrence ln House Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 956. i i

Further discussion? Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. Prestdent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in strong support of the concurrence. I feel that this is a -- a very good package Ehat has been put together. And as you visit the correctional facilities and you see the overcrowded conditions and you also begin to understand some of the complex problems there, I think that this is a -- a good piece of legislation that will go for a long ways in helping us ellminate some of the problems that we have here in the State of Illinois. I'n also very pleased to see the supermax prison included there, because after visiting many of these maximum security prisons: I know that we need a facility of that type, not only in order to make it more possible for rehabilitation of the ones that are in the maximum priscns -- if we look at the number of days of lockdown that we've had over the last few years, this Will help greatly. 1* also provldes the security and protection that is needed by our employees that work there - our correctional officers. So I think that -- you knowy I want to compliment *he ones that have put this package together. I think it's a great package and -- and certainly join with Senator Hawkinson on this bill.

6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 1993 Senator Tom Dunn, for what purpose do you rise?

To address the bill, Mr. President.

Go right ahead.

SENATOR DUNN: Thank you very much. I rise in strong support of this as well. This -- this is a I think a reasonable approach to many of the issues that the Task Force addressed, Which I Was a member of. I think it's a reasonable approach in paying off the bonds that will provide a certain amount of needed security not only to inmates within the institutlon, but more importantlyr to the people who work there for a llving and lock forward to coming home every night. The supermax idea is an idea that was first generated by the federal prison system, and I can tell you that no individual is happy that they 've been assigned to Marion, Illinois. thlnk that this will serve as a deterrent to those individuals that are already incarcerated, and you can hold something against their -- over their heads With the threat of sending them to -- to a supermax institution. It increases the penalty for aggravated assault on a correctional officer. There is a provislon dealing with earned good time, and think that you 'll find that many -- many Senators will vote for this Who have a very strong record of -- of support for -- individuals who comnit a crime; they should go to jail and stay in jail. I I don't think that anybody is violating their -- their thoughts or their conscience when they voke for this bill because of the earned time. The boot camp system is a known quantity; it works. We need to send more offenders through that. urge your support.

Senator Palmer, for what purpose do you rise?

STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12: 1993 Thank you, Mr. President. Just a question of the sponsor. PRESIDENT PHILIP: i The sponsor indicates he'll yield. Senator Palmer. SENATOR PALMER: Senator Hawkinson; I congratulate you for a great deal of good work, obviously. This has come a long Way. I just had one question. On the -- I'm looking at my analysis. Why is the ! I maximum sentence lençth of a participant raised from five to eight years? Am I understanding that correctly? PRESIDENT PHILIP: . i Senator Hawkinson. SENATOR HAWKTNSON: ' The Task Force had originally recommended that it be longer than eight years . Xou 're talking about the boot camp eligibility provision . I did not want it to be extended indefinitely, but the problem with the five-year sentence ls, When you take into account ! the day-for-day gocd time, it severely restricted the number of people , and even first-time offenders# who could be eligible for the boot camp , who the courts and Corrections fe1t ought to get the dose of the boot camp, and they felt they needed to extend it I beyond eight to expand the pool of eligible offenders. PRESIDENT PHILIP : Senator Palmer . SENATOR PALMER : Thank you . Soe I 'm not to -- this does not mean that a -- a person who's been convicted would have a longer sentence. PRESIDENT PHILIP : Senator Hawkinson. SENATOR HAWKINSON : No , that provision deals with eligibility . NoW , if they go to the bcct camp and they flunk out or they fai1 the boot camp, then the orlginal sentence can be reimposed r but it would be the 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12s 1993 original sentence as indicated by the court.

Senator Demuzio, for what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. On this bill, I might, Senator Hawkinsonz I too Want to applaud you for ycur efforts. guess we here in Illinois have spent almost five hundred and flfty to six hundred million dollars on correctional institutions over the last ten yearsr and one of those items that We have spent some money on has been the boot camp. Let me tell you, I've been in the flood area for the last two days ln -- in the -- actually, two out of the last three days in the flood community down in Hardin, Illlnois, and Grafton, and is a very successful prcgram. I've got good public relations as a result of the guys in the boot camp. Theydve done a fine job. They're there for natural disasters. The -- the fact of the matter... Pardon me for *he interruption. But I think -- I think Senator collins was interrupting me. She wanted to be on electronic detention. But 1et me also say that the expansion of the electronic detention program, think it will be a successful one; it'l1 save us a 1ot of money in the long run. know it's some -- I guess you could say a daring, bold move that we're doing here, but think it's one that's essential. And applaud you and the Commission for taking the action that you've done today.

Any further dlscussion? If not, Senator Hawkinson, to close.

I appreciate the support of those Who spoke, but I Want ta add one one note of caution. As Chairnan Tony Valukas of the Commission has indicatedr this bl11 is not ''the answer'' to the problem of crime and corrections Illinois; is but one step. Thls is not going to be cheap. As I spoke in Aprll: we need to do 9 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 some other things. This amendment does add some of those other things, such as the supermax prison. But this State is going to need to adequately fund our Community Corrections Program that We passed in 1986: because unless We deal with first-time offenders, and particularly first-time juvenile offenders, early on .and put the money into those programsr we Will not deter them from becoming members of future prison populations. So that's going to cost noney. We need to spend noney in this State to fully fund the education programs, the -- the sklll programs, the vocational programs and the correctional industries, some of which Will be controversial. But this is a first step. It's an important first stepr and ask for your Aye vote on concurring on House Amendment No. 4 to Senate Bill 956. PRESIDENT PHILIP: This is final action. The question isy shall Senate concur in House Amendment No . 4 to Senate Bill 956. All those ln favor, signify by voting Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have you a1l voted who wish? Have you al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On the question, there are 55 Ayesy 1 voting Nay, no voting Present. The Senate does concur in House Amendment No . 4 to Senate Bill 956, and the bill, having received the required three-fifths majority, is declared passed. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) On page of your Calendar, on the Order of Conference Committee Reports. Mr. Secretary, do you have on file a Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 941? SECRETARY HARRY : First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 941. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip. SENATOR PHILIP: Thank you -- thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12: 1993 the Senate. Senate Bill 94l basically does two things. It allows the Department of Transportatlon to do a audit on the Dupage County -- Airport, which, in turn, the airport will pay for that audlt. They tell me it runs somewhere around seventy-four thousand dollars a audit, and that's annually. Secondly, it -- it provides a Deputy Auditor General for the Auditor General cf the State of Illinois. Be happy to answer any questions. I would ask - - certainly ask for your favorable conslderation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? If not, the question isr shall the Senate adopt Conference Commlttee Report on Senate B111 No. 941. Those in -- in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay . The votin: is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? On that questlon, the Ayes -- take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 5l, the Nays are 3, 1 voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Conmittee Report on Senate Bill No. 941r and the bill, havlng recelved the required three-fifths majority, is declared passed. On page 4 of your Calendar, Senator Philip seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill -- House Bill 1038 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of -- for the purpose of amendments. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 1038. Mr. Secretary, are there any Floor amendments? Senator Philip, did you wish to table an amendment? Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of *he Senate. I move to table Amendment No. 3 to House Bill 1038.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there leave? Leave is granted . Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Now I mcve to withdraw Amendment No. 5 to House Bill 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 1038.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there leave? Leave is granted . Mr. Secretaryy are there any Ploor amendments approved for consideration? SECRETARY HARRY: ' Amendment No. 6r offered by Senator Phillp.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip .

I would move the adoption of Amendment No. 6. It is the entire bill, and we will debate it on 3rd Reading.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? If not, a11 in favor of the adoption, signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendnents, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. On the Order of 3rd Reading is House Bill 1038. Mr. Secretary, read the blll.

House Bill 1038 . i (Secretary reads title of b1l1)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip, to explain the bill.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. And as you 're probably aware, House Bill 1038 - the bill now is Amendment No. 6, Which we have just adopted. Amendment No. 6 does two things, basically. It makes four taxes permanent, and one of the taxes ls the Chicago vehicle use tax, just for the City of Chicago, which raises about two million dollars a year; khe 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 teleconmunication tax, Which is a statewlde tax which raises about twenty-seven million dollars a year; photofinishing taxr Which is a statewide tax which raises about 4.5 nilllcn dollars a year; and the -- last but not least, the Chicago use tax: Which just is in the City of Chicago, some 6.5 million dollars. It also puts on the ballot - in Cook County only on the November 1994 general election, the proposition of tax caps for Cook County. 1111 be happy to answer any questions, and I certainly encourage you to vote Aye.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Would the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates that he Would yield.

Senator, as I read thisr and as I look at our analysis, this indicates that as of this dater none of these taxes are being collected in the State of Illinois. Correct?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

Yes, that is correct.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs.

Sa, what we are saying is then, we are enactin: taxes to the tune of around thirty-five nillion dollars. And in addition to that, are we extending the five percent of the gross retail charge on intrastate and interstate telecommunications to al1 communities the State? Are we broadening that tax to include other areas 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2y 1993 of the State outside of Chicago or Cook County? ! i

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) I Senator Philip.

The tax is already statewlde. It expired on June 30th.

PRESIDING YFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator àacobs.

Well, I just Want to point out again -- and, you kncwr as far as I'n concerned, these taxes are not onerous in and of themselves, but I guess I do want to point out again that We are dealing with the issue of taxes, and just want to point that out to the Members on this side of the aisle. i

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon.

Thank you, Mr. Presldent. Will the sponscr yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates he will yield.

On the property tax cap, why is this limited to Cock County only? Why isn't it statewide?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Phillp.

Yes. As you know, we have it in the five collar counties now. Tf it was up to me, we 'd put it on the ballot statewide, but there wasn't a 1ot of support on your side of the aisle for statewide cap -- tax caps, so we have decided to put it on the ballot in Cook County. And I mlght remind you, Cook Ccunty's got some of the highest real estate taxes in the State. The farther downstate 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12: 1993 i you go, the -- the smaller the real estate taxes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon.

On the telecommunications tax, will you explain that to the Body? Is -- is this a tax every time a person makes a long distance phone call, or ls it a tax whether they have Sprint or AT&T, or no matter what carrier they have? It's a -- ls it a -- is this what this tax is? Or does the tax also include a call that's made into a different area code, such as a 3l2 calling to a 708?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

Yes, it's -- it's intrastate or interstate - either one. It's on -- on anybody who makes a call. NcW, 1et me say this: Downstate there are only about nine or ten communities that have put the tax on. And -- and, of course, most of those communities have some kind of a -- a catalogue outlet or somebody makes a lot of telephone calls. Most of the money, of course, is -- is -- is ralsed in the City of Chicago, because they do a lot of telephone calllng.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon.

Wellr in conclusion, I'm going to urge a11 of my colleagues to vote No on this tax package, because it makes no sense to me to already -- overburden a community that's already overtaxed. And here we are adding four new taxes - and they are new taxes. If -- if it sunsetted June 30thz it's over. So these are new taxesy and it makes no sense to me to constantly tax the people of this State. Here we've got a vehicle tax for Chicago, a telecommunications tax, a photofinishing tax, a use tax - just 15  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 taxes, taxes, taxes. I think it's time out for overtaxing the people of this great State, and I hope that each and every one of my colleagues on b0th sides of the aisle will vote No against these aggressive taxes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Lapaille. SENATOR LaPAILLE: Thank you, Mr. President. Can -- will the Gentleman yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indlcates he would . SENATOR ZaPAILLE: Will the Governor be supporting these tax extensions, increases, et cetera, Senator Philip?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Lapaille. SENATOR LaPAILLE: I think this is a very good -- tlme to start adding up the tax and spending calculation of Governor Edgar. And we should take a look at his inaugural address when he said, ''We should not raise taxes at the State level.'' Then on October 5th af .90, State Journal-Register, 'We can't go back to the voters year after year and ask for more money.'' So, as we see, the clcck is startin: to tick. We dre at forty mlllion and counting.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Dudycz.

Thank you, Mr. President. -- I'd like to refer to a portion 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSCMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legiskative Day July l2, 1993 of the bill which -- Which has no* really been mentioned, or much has been mentloned of it, and that's the referendun on property tax caps in Cook County. As you know, for years I and others have been screaming that the people of Cock County are in desperate need of property tax caps. A year ago, almost a year ago exactly, or a couple of years ago - I dcn't remember - it seems like it was a decade ago that I Was screaming how jealous I was of my -- collar county colleagues because they had tax caps for thelr community . lt's the Members of -- of this Body on the other side that were opposed to tax caps. And this is a compromise that -- I think that we a11 can live with. We said -- many of us said that we do need tax caps; others said we do not need tax caps. Well, Why don't We give it to the voters to decide whether they want tax caps or not? This will pu* the questlon on the ballot in the 1994 election. I think everybody should vote for it. Give your voters an opportunity - Senator Hendon, your voters - and my voters an opportunity to -- to voice whether or not they do want tax caps. As far as the four taxes that we are voting for, they are existing taxes. Yes, for the last twelve days they have lapsed, but prior to July 1st, these taxes were in place. They were there for the municipalities to inpose if they sa desire. It was permissive. I think We -- itfs a -- it's a good compromise. I think everybody should vote for itr and give our -- our homeowners, our voters, an opportunity to vote for tax caps.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Fawell.

Wil1 the sponsor yleld for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates he would.

Senator, these -- the monies that are raised with these four 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIFT 76th Legislative Day July 12# 1993 I taxes, do they go to the State , or do they go to the municipality l that -- that asks for then?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip . SENATOR PHILIP: ' They atk go to local governments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Fawell.

If -- and if a municipality doesn't want to put the tax on, do -- are we forcing them to put this tax on?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

We are absolutely not forckng them on. The telecommunications tax downstate I believe is on nine communities, in -- a1l of the downstate area. So, it is a local option.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Fawell.

So in other words, if the City of Chicago doesn't want this money, there 's really no reason that they have to take it. They can just keep the status quo. If they do want the money - which I have a sttange feeling is the reason why this bill was introduced - then they can put the tax on themselves. We are not putting any taxes on. We are merely allowing the municipalities to have the option to put the tax on themselves. If they don't want to do it - blessings be upon them - they don't have to.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senatot Palmer.

Thank you, Mr. President. A question of the sponsor. 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 E PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) I He indicates he wculd yield.

Senator Philip, this year there Were a number of bills introducedr particu.larly in Revenue Committee, that Would have -- that requested exempticns to tax caps already in place. I'm reading the wording for the referendum, and I'm wondering: Will there be some separate papers that indicate tc voters what the potential loss of revenue is to the State as a result of their vote, so that they can be an -- make an informed vote?

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip .

No. As you know, itsll be on the ballot, and itfll explain it on the ballot. If it would pass: I Would assume We Would come back here the following Session and put together the acbual tax cap far Cook County.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Palmer.

Thank you, Mr. President. So just to reiterate this: That this will be a vote -- and I know this is very -- a seductive vote. 1, myself, were I not better informed about consequencesz would -- certainly would want my property taxes cut. But I'm sorry to hear that there will not be some information to voters so that they understand What the potential is, the cansequences for their vcte to their schools and libraries and parks, vis-a-vis some of the bills that we :ot seeking exemption this year.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Mccracken.

Thank you. Will the sponsor yield? 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12# 1993

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates that he would.

Senatore is it correct that other than the considerations youdve already made reference to, the reason the referendum was chosen for Cook County is because of its relatively unique character in the State as regards its assessed value; that it's been climbing dramatically, along with the okher collar counties, whlch already have the tax cap in force?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Mccracken.

Yes. Is it -- is it correct that, in factr relative to any other county in the State, including the collar countlesr that its assessed valuations have risen dramatically and placed a terrific onus on the property taxpayer, particularly in Cook County, as regards the remainder of the State not already covered by the law?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

Absolutely correct.

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Mccracken.

And is it correct that these constituted scne of the fact findings of the Executive Committee When Lt considered this subject matter?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 Senator Phllip.

It certalnly did.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator .Mccracken.

On to another part of the bill, Mr. President. Let's get straight where these four taxes came fromy Ladies and Gentlemen. These weren't requested by this side of the aisle. These Were requested by the City of Chicago. These give the City of Chicago the authority to enact taxes. Two of them do, in theory, apply statewide, but have limited utility in the rest of the State. So when We want to count up forty million dollars, letfs put the forty million dallars where it belongs: It belongs at City Hall; it belongs in the wards; lt belongs all over the City of Chicago. That's where it came from . That's Who's asked for the authority tonight.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jones.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. You know, thls has been a very, very long Session, and many of the lssues that we have debated on this Ploor were debated in our respective committees. There has been much talk about property tax capy property tax referendumr property tax thisy property tax that. But let's nake one thing crystal clear: Property tax cap is not property tax relief. All property tax caps do is say you cannot raise over a certain percentage. So it's not really relief. recognize that the people of the State of Illinois voted fifty-eight percent to increase the income tax for educaticn. It didn't receive the constitutional majority sixty percent, but then fifty-eight percent cf the people did vote by referendum . As 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Leçislative Day July 12, 1993 it relate to an advisory referendum -- and I -- I -- and I want to nake that crystal clear: as Hadvisory'' referendum , that is a11 that this referendum says. So we said we want to have the people have a say, but the other side of the coin is if you shut down the property tax, you must in turn place that burden where it belongs: on the State of Illinois. So we are -- we have four local taxes that lmpact not only the Clty of Chicago, but they impact a1l -- nost muntctpalities across the State of Illinois. Thks is a compromise on this piece of leglslation. I know the Governor said he didn't want to ralse taxes. So he raises them in this bill. I have no problem with that. I urge my colleagues to support lt# and 1et the people speak. But the people should also speak on the referendum that if we cut the property taxy as they shculd be cut, or give property tax relief, then the burden in turn must be shifted to the State. You cannot have it both ways. Xou cannot have your cake and eat it too. I urge my cclleagues to vote Yes on Senate -- House Bill 1038.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. Presldent. A question -- two questlons of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates he would yield . SENATOR DeANGELIS: On the lssue of the telecommunicaEian taxes and the other taxes, does the City of Chicago want those taxes?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

It is a request of the City of Chicago .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislatlve Day July 12, 1993 Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Secondlyr has the Mayor of the City cf Chicago been on record in support of tax caps?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

If I remenber correctly, the City Councilr in its great wisdom, passed tax caps for the City of Chicago.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you. As a reminder to those who have spcken in Whatever way they want tor there's an old song that says ''You always hurt the one you love.'' And for those of you Who have chosen to speak against this, from the Clty of Chicago, 1et me remind you that the city that you love is khe one that's in suppcrt of this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon, for a second time.

Thank you, Mr. President. First of all, I want to make it perfectly clear: I don't represent the City of Chicago; I represent the people of my district who sent me down here. I don't represent Mayor Daley - don't intend to represent Mayor Daley. The people are tired of these taxes. And you can say what you Want *o. It's a statewide tax. Now, Mr. President, I support Ehe property tax caps. I did -- I stood in this Chamber and said I did, and I continue to do so. Therefore, I call for a division of the question, Mr. President. Under our rules, Senate Rule 7-14, page 28y says, ''If the question in debate contains several points, any Senatcr may have the same divided.'' Therefore, since a -- you pre raising four taxes at the same time that ycu're 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12y 1993 lowering -- capping taxes: are not germaney I call for a division of the question. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon. Senator Hendon, this is one amendment, and . the question will be put. It's on 3rd Reading. We had debated it. Do you have any further questions? This -- the bill is on 3rd Readlng. The bill is on 3rd Reading; that's flnal action. Any further questions? Senator Mccracken. Senator Mccracken. SENATOR MCCRACMEN : It doesn't apply, because the question is nondivisible. The question is: Shall the bill pass? That's one questionr indivisible in nature. That dces not apply. It is not divisible. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip, to close. Senator Philip, to close. SENATOR PHILIP: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. You know, we've had tax caps in Dupage County now for tWo tax bills, and believe me: they Work. Our tax bllls in our county are down drastically. A11 this does is afford the citizens of Cook County to vote on the issue. If they want it, they lll pass it. If they dondt, they'll defeat it. Secondly, on these tax extenslons - because these taxes have been on for a two-year period - two are statewide, two are Chicago only, and it's left up to local government. If the local government dces not want to put then on, they will not put them on. So I Wi11 certainly ask for your favorable consideratlon. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The questlon is, shall House Bill 1038 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that questicn, the Ayes are 36, the Nays are l8y 2 voting Present. The bill, havlng received the constitutional 24 l STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12r 1993 majority, is required -- passed. And the bill, having reeeived the required three-fifths majorityr is declared passed. On the Supplemental Calendar, on House Bill 2282, Senator Watson, you wish to make a motion? . SENATOR WATSON: ïes. Thank you, Mr. President. I Would ask that We refuse to I i recede from House action on Senate Amendment No. 1, and ask for a conference committee report -- or a conference committee. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Any discussion? If not, Senator Watson moves that the Senate ! refuse to recede from ehe adopelon of Senate Amendment No. 1 to House Bill 2282: and that a conference ccmmittee be appointed. A1l those in favory say Aye. Opposedy Nay. The Ayes have 1t. And the motion carrles, and the Secretary shall so inform the House. On the Calendar -- Supplemental Calendar, on the Order of 1 i Conference Committee Reportsr Mr. Secretary, do you have on file a Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 677? SECRETARY HARRY: I First Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 677, Mr. ! President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The Chair recognizes Senator Maltland . SENATOR MAITLAND: Thank you very muchy Mr. Presldent and Members of the Senate. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Maitland. ' SENATOR MAITLAND: j k The First Conference Ccmmittee Report on Senate Bill 677 does a number of things, and let me indicate to you What those different areas are. Number oner it extends the hospital assessment program from July 1r 1993, through June 30th, 1995, at a rate of 1.88 percent of a hospital's gross patient revenue less 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 Medicare contractual allowances. It exempts eighty-eight rural hospltals frcn the tax. It provides for any extra cigarette tax proceeds to be transferred into the Hospital Provider Fund in order to lower the FY'95 hospital tax rate. Secondlyr it imposes a one-dollar-and-fifty-cent-per-day licensing fee on al1 nursing home beds for two years. Al1 nursing home and hospital bed -- a11 - - a1l nursing home and hospital-based long-term care bedsr except developmentally dlsabled beds, would be charged a dollar-fifty licensing fee to generate approximately fifty-five and a half million dollars to help offset the elimination of the dreaded six-dollar-and-thlrty-cent nursing home assessmenk that we had last year. This fee would be collected quarterly by the Department of Public Aid and deposited dlrectly into the Long-Term Care Provider Fund. Nursing facilities would be prohiblted from passing this fee on to any resident. Number three, it eliminates GR funding for Cook County Hospital. It changes the calculation on intergovernmental transfers from Cook County Hospital. The result is that all Medicaid payments to Cook County Hospital Will be made through intergovernmental transfers and no GRF Would go to these county haspitals. Fourth, it increases the cigarette tax by fourteen cents a pack. The rate gces from thirty cents to forty-four cents per pack of cigarettes of twenty cigarettes. Includes a floor tax on current inventory. The Illinois Eccnomic and Fiscal Commission estimates new revenue to be approximately one hundred five mlllion dollars. The effective date Would be when the bill is signed. Fifth, it creates a -- the tobacco products tax. 1* imposes a new tax on dlstributors of non-cigarette tobacco products. And finallyr Mr. President, it imposes a six-percent assessment on long-term care facilities for the developmentally dlsabled for a period of two years. Mr. President, I mave the adoption of Conference Committee No. l to Senate Bill 677. 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I stand in strong opposition to this bill for a couple of reasons. Number oney this is being sold to a1l of us as a replacement of the granny tax to ensure that there are going to be fundlng for the nursing homesr and nothing could be further from the truth. The nursing home tax, known as the granny taxr is over as of June 30. Againr this is a new tax, and is a hundred-and-five-million-dollar tax increase. Call it what you will. That's what we are being told it's going to generate. Well, I've got news fcr ycu: will not generate a hundred and five million dollars. And the fourteen cents that we're talking about as a tax, by the time it gets to the consumer, will be a mininum of twenty-flve cents, because everyone is going to add their profit margin cnto the cost, which is a cost of doing business. And then on top of that, they are going to add the six-and-a-quarter-percent sales tax. Those of us who live on the borders, as we do in the Quad Cities with Icwar even though the sister state is currently under water, unfortunatelyr Would still drive across the river for twenty-five cents a pack. For a nickel a pack, a dlme a pack, they may not do that. While they're over on the other side of the river, theydre not only going to buy their cigarettes; they're going to buy their milk; they're going to buy kheir gasoline. And for those Who live further inr they lre gcing to the Bloomington area or down to Springfield, they 're going to go over to the other side of the river and buy an extra four or five cartons of cigarettes in Iowa and bring them into Illinois and pass them on here. The original intent of this, again, as T reiterate, is to take care of the nursing homes. The hospltals has been taken care of pretty well. So, this is a 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 nurskng home tax, and in many cases we 're told that, as an example, smoking may very well be -- lead to an early death. So i again, we're using a tax whlch doesn't relate to the issue at hand. But I thlnk we're just really sitting here batting our heads against a wall, thinking that this is gotng to raise a hundred and five nillion dollars. Actuallyz I feel that if -- at best bet, if you raise twenty-five to thirty million dollars off of this tax, because of the loss of other dollars that youdre going to have whenever you go across the border, then 1'11 be the most surprised cat in town. I think thls is -- What we're trying to do is very, very important. There's other alternatives out there, and this Governor has been given the alternative to -- to lcck at other tax increases or other forms of taxation that could offset this cigarette tax. I think it's onerous. I think that it is -- is regressive. And if my mail is any indication of what most of the border communities are like, it is probably one of the best lobbied bills I've seen this year by What I consider the only tobacco lobby that I care about; thatfs my constituents Who happen to be smokers who have indicated very clearly that they are violently opposed to this bill. And I just ask everyone on this side of the aisle to vote No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Geo-Karis.

Mr. Presldent and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I had constituents of mine eall me and Write to me not to suppcrt a cigarette tax in the amount of seventy cents per packet. I had talked to them abou: twenty-five cents per packet; they didn't seem to mind tcc much, because as one constituent said to me: ''We11, maybe then 1'11 cut down smokingw'' Snoking's -- smoking's supposed to affect our health deleteriously. And when you talk about border tcwns, may I remind my estimable colleague on the 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 I other side that I live in a border town, next to Wisconsln. NOW; fourteen cents a pack is not that much to pay when you 're thinking of a -- a tax that's been kn effect aqainst senior citizens who've saved a11 their lives to take care of themselves tn a nurstng home and then we've made them pay six dollars and thirty cents a day to help others who didn 't have any means and Who are in a nursing home. Tt's not falr to tax someone who 's trying to do their best. I think that this tax is a good tax. And talking about lobbies, I might tell you that the tobacco lobby has been very extensive - very extensive. And I can honestly tell you that this is probably a fairer tax than what may -- it may seem on the surface, because it does affect your health when you smoke; twor ycu are helping take an onerous burden off the older people; and three, it's a necessary tax. And I support it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Shaw.

Thank youy Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition to the fourteen percent -- fourteen-cents increase in the cigarette tax, and I -- I believe that there is a bebter way. And certainly I don't want it to be saëd that I'm a -- because of the fact that b0th the bospital -- *he -- the assessment is attached to this bitl, which ts the seniors, and the cigarette tax is attached to the same bill, and I don't want it to be said that I'n against the seniors. Certainly I support the seniors. If it's their -- if there's any single group in this State that need the support of this Body, it is the seniors, because they have done so much for our State. But I just believe that there is a better way than a fourteen-cents increase in terns of taxing cigarette -- the cigarettes. My district is on ' the border of the Illinois line, and you can get cigarettes -- walk right across out of my district and get cigarettes over there i I 29  STATE OF TLLTNOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 I I much cheaper after this cigarette ks -- after tbis cigarette tax is passed, and certainly that would lmpact upon the ma-and-pa stores that people depend on so much to make a llving. And it would put people out of work, and I think it will put an awful lot ; of people out of work in this State if we raise this tax by fourteen cents. I -- I believe that what we are talklng about ! here is jobs, and a lot of people is going to lose jobs as a : resultofthistax. Notonlythat,theanticipated revenue that you're talking about generating fram this tax, I think We'11 have 1 , to -- we'll have to come back here and find some additlcnal revenues to -- to fund the very thing that we think we 're funding , today. I think it's a bad idea. I thlnk that We could come up with a better ldea, and I think that this should go back to the drawingboardandconebackagain. IurgeaNovote,or... 1 '

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Trotter.

Thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I too rise in opposltion to Senate Bill 677. And let me be perfectly clear. As everyone here in this Chamber knows, I've been a drum major for hospitals. So it's certainly not because I'm agatnst the hospital assessment end of this bill, and it's certainly not because I'm against the seniors. But 1, too -- like the previous speaker and the speakers before himr I represent a district that borders along Indianar and I represent a district that's -- is very tenuous in its security and also i*s position, as far as in trying to enhance and build -- and build and grow its economic development base. What this bill would do# it will just force the peopleinnycommunitytogoacrossthe--justacross the street, and they will -- as pointed aut earlter, they Will be 1 ! - - not only be doing cigarette shops - they're not going to buy I one pack; they're not going to spend fourteen cents - they 're I 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 going over there to buy cartons. They're going to go there and buy their milk; they're going to buy their bread; theyfre going to do their grocery shopping - a1l the Way down the line their clothes shopping, and they're going to buy gas. Because of these regressive kaxes that we continuously impcse upon the people of Illinois, we're going to keep lcsing jobs; we're going to lose business, and we're going to lose a 1ot of revenue that we're counting on to help fund these nursing homes and these other initiatives that we pass. I have been - as nany of these Menbers - have been for a progressive a progressive and also a graduated inccme tax. If we're serious about funding health care at the level that it should be funded, then we need to be looking at some real taxes. Let's stop playing this semantical game of having these surcharges, these other little cigarette taxes, these sin taxes, and pass a tax that's going to fund education, fund health care and keep Illinois viable as a State ln this country. And I ask a1l tc vote No for this initiative.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Topinka.

Well, yes. Mr. Chairman and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, first of all, I'd like to commend the -- the Legislative Leaders and the budgeteers for taking the kind of time they did to come up with some kind of a solution ta the granny taxr which had to be one of the poorest choices, in terms of publlc policyr that ever -- We've ever put out of this Legislature. And khe kime they've taken, think, is worthwhile, in that it does give us an option. I'm pecsonally going to be voting Yes, and I am a smoker. However, I will tell you that thls in no way shoutd be looked at as solving the Medicaid crisis in the State of Illinois, because this is probably one of our biggest growth industries, especially - - and may have some quiet, please, Mr. Chairman -- Mr.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 Presldent? May I have some quiet? Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Let's take our conferences off the Floor, please. I

Medicaid is and remains probably one of the biggest growth ' industries in this Statey especially as Illinois ages. At best, i this will be a stopgap and pclitlcal solution to this prcblem. We will have to return to this problem again: because when you fund programs that are supported by the State, they ean 't be funded on : foundations of sand, and that ls what building on sin taxes is. You get declining revenue. I'm not real pleased with this i solutionr but I think this is the only game in town. When you think that it's elther taxing clgarettes and tobacco products or throwing granny out the door of the nursing home, I think the options become very, very clear. I think it's unfortunate that we did not seek out other better ways to fund this program . Those -- those ways existed. They apparently were politically not viable. This was. And I would encourage the Legislature to hold its nose ! and vote for this, at least to get us over another hump in terms of Medicaid.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Rea. SENATOR REA: i Thank you, Mr. President. I'd llke to speak to a pcrtion of ! Senate Bill 677 that has to do with the cigarette tax. And to me it's nct a matter of smoking or nonsmoking; lk's a matter of economics. And I probably have experienced this as much as anybody in this Body, because my district borders three I states: Indiana, Kentucky and Missouri. The highest tax is 15.5 - fifteen and a half cents. The State of Kenkucky has a three-cent tax. At the present timer people are going across *he k border; they are buying clgarettes by the cartons. And if this 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS I 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 ' tax should passr they will be buying them by the cases and brknging them into Illinois. And they Won't just bring them to i the border area; they will bring them into Springfield and other parts of the State, because there is a big dlfference in the cost. . It's a matter of jobs, as far as I'm concerned, because there are those small businesses - there's the mom-and-pop shops. And it may not mean too much to some of you, but ln my district, it means a lot. And I think that there's other ways and means of raising the monies that needs to be replace -- to replace the granny tax. I'm opposed to a granny tax, but I think there's other alternatives or ways of funding it. So I would ask that you look very carefully at this legislation as you cast your vote here tonightr because -- it's -- in the past, I do not feel that in other taxes, that the State has provided the taxes and the revenues that has been projected. I think wedll flnd the same thing here, because as they cross over into the other states, they will buy the gasoline; they may go out for dinner; they might buy clothing; they may even buy a new car. So we lose those sales taxes. So, overall, it will not be the gains that ycu may thlnk. I would ask for an Aye -- or for a No vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon. SENATOR HENDON: Thank you, Mr. President. Well, welve been here about half an hour, and in this thirty minutes if -- if this bill goes through, you Will have - no* -- and I didn': say Hwe,'' because I'm no* going to vote for it - have raised the taxes on the people of Illinois four hundred and ninety-four million dollars. That's how much you will have raised the taxes if you vote for this tax. And this tax -- Ladies and Gentlemen, this counts as not only a bad tax, but tt's a tricky tax. It is manipulative to pit granny against cigarettesr because a lot of grannies smoke cigarettes. ; 33  i STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 And 1et me tell you scmething: I can see A1 Capone right now, rislng from the grave, getting hls bootlegger trucks ready, because that's what they pre going to do. They're going to roll those cigarettes in from Kentucky; they're :oing to roll those cigarettes ln from Indiana; theyfre going to roll those cigarettes in from Missouri, and you're not going to realize the revenue that you think youtre going to get. And when the people get in that car, they get in that little station wagon, from your distrlctr and ride down there, yes - like Denny said - they're going to buy the bread; they're going to buy the papers; they're going to buy the milk; they dre going to buy everything, and the revenue projections of the sale taxes for the State of Illlnois are going to go down, downr dcwn. So what ycu're doing here is overtaxing the people of this great State, and the people of Indiana, they're saying, 'Hallelujah! That's great.'' The people in Missouri, they fre so happy right now because they know ycubre going to help them out. The people in Kentucky, they 're sayingz ''Come on dcwn, ladies and gentlenen, come on down.'' Because the people of Illinois are not smart enough to come up with another alternative. Al1 they Want to do is tax the people of this Statez tax the people one hundred and five million -- fifty-five nlllion from the granny tax, because lt's still there. It might be a little lower, but it's stlll there. Ten mlllion from the loophole. Sixteen million from the six-percent assessmentr and two hundred and sixty-eight nillion for the hospitals. Four hundred and sixty-four Rillion dollars, from a Governor who said, HNo new taxes.'' Read his lips. He's raising the taxes Ehrough the roof. I urge you to vote No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) For what purpose does Senator Mccracken arëse?

I couldn't hear the Gentlenan. Could he repeat his remarks? 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY ! REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Palner. Senator Palmer. Senator Palmer.

Thank you, Mr. President. I'm going to vote for this bl11 not only wibh reluctance, but with a great deal of sadness. I think that there has been more than enough disinfornation put out about : I the so-called granny tax. And for those of you Who Want to I reflect on our actions today, I suggest that you read the Chicagc Reader to get at least an in-depth look at and a history of hoW We got to this moment in time. I suggest to you that this is an unstable source of revenue; it Will be momentary, and that when we i vote for this, we are delayingr in fact, what a State such as this ! I ought to consider, and that is how to fund one of its most ! ! fundamental human needs, and that is health care. I suggest that even as I cast this vote, and those of you who are voting for thisr that you leave this Body and over the summer come back prepared to vote for and to put together a package that makes sense. 1111 leave it at that, but let us consider thls a ; i i temporary and unfortunately necessary move.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Butler.

Thank you very much, Mr. President. Thank you -- thank you, Senator Palmer. I would have had a tough act to follow if I had - * if yOu had nOb interspersed bebWeen uS. YOu knoWr the Older I l 1 I getr the nore often I say I don't understand. Here's another I event that that phrase -- I don't understand Why the -- the people whose constituents will be helped the most are speaking the loudest and the longest against this. The idea here -- this bill is designed to keep open hospitals now on the brink of closing. It's as simple as that. The largest number and those deepest in i debt are represented by the people who are talking against this i ! 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 i bill. It is -- the same thing applies to the nurslng homes. l We 're trying to keep open nursing homes, and the largest nunber and those deepest in debt are represented by the people who are speaking against it. The fourteen-cent tax on a pack of cigarettes may be -- may be high . And ket's concede, if we don 't get a hundred and five million out of this, we nay get seventy-five. But this matter has been on the table now for months, and ncbody has come up Nith an alternative. And here We are trying desperately to raise money to keep those hospitals and nursing homes only, and we're -- and we're just blowing smoke, if you'll pardon the expression, over this whole sltuation. I Nant to point out that the -- one of the largest amounts of money Will be raised by -- by the hospitals who are fiscally sound. Hospitals who are fiscally sound are taxing themselves, in order to help those that are in problens. I think we cught to just face - - face this fact very clearly: The cigarette tax is one means of raising money; the other is that the hospitals are taxing themselves. We 're in for a redistributlon of money. Let's stop blowing smoke and letds get thls thlng rolling.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Carroll.

Thank your Mr. Presldent, Members of the Senate. I rise in opposition to the tax portion of this bill. 1111 agree With many of the prior speakers, and as every Menber of this Chamber knows, l've worked lcng and hard on assuring khat hospltals, nursing homes and developmental disability facilities stay open in this State, without whlch we will have a health care crisis second to none. But I wonder why we try to do this and hurt our oWn economy at the same time, Nhen there have been other solutions, including a lesser and nore realistic cigarette tax, proposed. But no one i gants to talk about that. Governor said, of coursez there'd be no I 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 tax. His original speech said a ''cigarette assessment.'' Now I asked, on this side of the aisler for a pack of cigarettes, since don't smoke, to see -- cigarettes, to see what the -- what it said on the stamp. Did it say ''tax'' or ''assessment''? The funny part the package I got has a Kentucky stamp on it, and that Member saved four dollars and twenty cents buying on the Kentucky side of the river. In Chicago, will be a seven-dollar-a-pack -- a-carton, excuse me, savings for every carton they buy. And if you're south side of Chicago, it cculd be as close as two minutes awayy by crossing over the border, to buy a carton of cigarettes. Spoke to a man who owns six convenience stores ln the Belleville-Alton-East St. Louls area . A hundred and eighty-five employees. He said nct only are Ne taxing him out of business, but Illtnois is bein: nice enough to build a bridge over - there is any Misslssippi left - so that the people can go across easier to buy their cartons of cigarettes along with their milk and eggs and whatever else they would buy at a convenience store. He said, in fact, if we pass thls, because of cur gasoline tax in addltion: it'll be twelve dollars cheaper for a person to drive three minutes across khe bridge, fill up thelr gas tank and buy one carton of cigarettes. Of coursey they can bring back ten without violatlng any law, without any bootlegging. Twelve dollars cheaper. Sc he said his hundred and eighty-five employees ulll probably drop to about sixty, because he's going to have to cut off most of h1s employees - his sales Will drop that much. He guesses he'd probably be out of business in a year or two. That's one of many, of many, of many. And it's a shame we've got to concentrate on what the Governor demanded keep health care viable in Illinois, when, as I said before, other alternatives are, in fact, available. If you look at this tax, the Governor has admitted to huge bootlegging. If you took existing sales of cigarettes at the existing tax, added fourteen cents to those  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 pack-of-cigarette equakions, anybody have any idea how much money that's supposed to bring in? Welly the number happens to be a hundred and forty-nine mkllion dollars. The tax Nill produce, according to the Governorr a huadred and two millton dollars. i What happened to that forty-seven million dollars? When asked, they said, ''There's your bootlegging.'' Forty-seven million dollars of taxes. What does that nean in sales? Seven hundred ' million dollars? Just in cigarettes. People who go to a I convenience store don't buy just cigarettes normally. They'kl buy i eggs; they 'll buy milk; they'll buy something else. A billion? I Two blllion dollars? I don't know. Economic and Fiscal, I'm I sure, could do an extrapolation for us. Why would we want to harm I our economy to a couple billion dollars, when, I say again: better I alternatlves are available, including a more reasonable cigarette I tax, ghich I personally would support? Have any of you ever I bought shampoo, or shaving cream, or toothpaste, or deodorant? Senator Geo-Karls indicated no to the shaving cream, but yes to i the others. Do you knou if you pay sales tax on it or not? I There's a fifty-three-million-dollar word; that ward is Hmedicatedn. The way the Department of Revenue interprets our exemption on fcod and drugs is not prescription drugs, like you and I thought; but if on that tube of toothpaste, that bottle of shampoo, that can of shaving eream , or any of those other products, it's regular, sales tax is charged. If, on the other hand, it says ''medicated shanpoo'' Department of Revenue says that's tax exempt. If you take that list - consumers a11 assume they pay it; many of them probably do...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Carroll, would you bring your remarks to a close?

I will bring my remarks to a close as soon as passlble, Mr. President. Fifty-three million dollars, according to Economic and 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 1993 Fiscal, is lost by that loophole fifty-three-million-dollar loophole - that We shculd, in fact, be closing. That's half of the requested cigaretke tax. You could cut the tax down to seven cents and close that loophole and keep hospitals openr nursing homes and developmental disability facilities going. That's the way to go . intend to vote No until we have a reasonable plan for this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Lauzen.

Senator carroll? You know: you say that a colleague gave you a pack of cigarettes that has a Kentucky stamp on it. May I rhetorically ask you Why it is that Democratic Senators in the State of Illinois buy their ctgarettes in Kentucky? But -- but more -- but more to the point. You know, when Senator -- when Senator Hendon gets worked up and Senator Jacobs gets worked up about how much this is going to destroy our economy, just some simple mathematics on what this means - and where the number comes up that ten packs at fourteen cents per pack is going to cost seven dollars, not sure. But a person who's smoking two packs a day, if that person's going to get in their car, travel to another state for a dollar and ninety-six cents per week, I think that we're not giving the taxpayers and citizens of Illinois credit for a more rational decision than that. I think that this is not a questlon between a tax and no tax; lt's a question between the lesser of two evils. We have the granny tax that cripples people who have saved their whole lives twenty-five hundred dollars a year - versus a person smokes two packs a day for an entire year, fourteen cents per pack; that's about a hundred and two dollars on something that's up to their discretion. I think that the that maybe this is not a perfect solution, but it goes a long way in the right direction, and -- and certainly it's not  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2r 1993 something that's going to destroy the economy of Illinols. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) ! Senator Collins. END OP TAPE TAPE 2 I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) . 7 Senator Syverson. Senator Syverson, did you wish to comment on this?

Sure, I'd like to respond to Senator Carroll, as well. I'm -- I'm very excited that he's concerned about jobsr and I love his question: Why would we want to harm the economy? Maybe we forget about all the good business bllls that you killed over there this year that regulated and taxed and harassed almost four hundred thousand manufacturing jobs out of this State to cther states. If we hadn't run those companies out of this State, we wouldn't be worrying about where the revenue was coming from . So I certainly appreciate the fact that Senator Carroll is now becoming a -- fiscally conservative, wanting to help jobs in Illinois. So I look forward to having you cosponsor some good legislation with me next year.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Mccracken.

Thank you, Mr. President. I think it is time to start counting nck. The granny tax raises about two hundred ten million dollars a year. Governor Edgar's going to sign legislatlon that ! 40 ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 Will eradicate that blight on our society. He is doing it not by I ; means of a general income tax increase, but an excise tax. Now, when we al1 vote for gas taxes, because that's an excise tax We run home and tell the voters, ''oh, it's a user fee. You get in I your car; you use the roads; you pay.the gas - you pay the tax on the gas.'' Well, is it so different with the cigarettes? No, it ' is not, sir. No, it is not. J think the analogy is a gocd oner and it's gocd fOr this reason: six dollars and thirty cents per day, per bed, in nursing homes. People whodve saved a11 their i lives. Do you -- ls there a more onerous tax ln this State right now? Certainly - certainly - a replacement raising far fewer dollars than the granny tax, being by means of an excise tax or a ! user fee on those who smoke clgarettes and purchase them in the State, is something to be proud of. It's not something to be ashamed of. And there are those here who talk about alternatives. ! Senator Carroll is a notable exception. Most people don't talk in ; great detail about those alternatives. But one that has been raised is food and drug. And, yesr food and drug is not on the table, but that's nothlng to be ashamed of. Governor Edgar said, i : ''No general taxes.'' Pood and drug will not be taxed in the State . of Illinols. We will go to a user fee. We will tax ln a health-related area and proceeds will be used only for health care in this State. It's a dedicated fund. It's raised off of a user fee. It is limited in its impact cn the population. It reaches only those who, in thelr discretion, choase to smoke. It is nothing to be ashamed of. We should be proud to vote for this and do away with that granny tax. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senater I apalogize for rising the second time. A1l I can say is, first of 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 all, commend my -- my colleague, the former Chalrman of Appropriatlons, for figuring out loopholes. Why didn't he submit those bills for taxes -- for the loose loophcles, maybe many years ago? Number two, my constituency would rather we raised thelr cigarette tax by fourteen cents, rather than raise their income tax. They don't kant to see a raise in income tax. They -- they could buy the surtax, but not the income tax raise.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. President. And I apologlze for rising for Ehe second time and only do so because my esteemed Senator Adeline Geo-Karis did the same, so I feel that we have a little time for retribution here. First of all, you knok, it's been said that there are no other alternatives, and there have been a number of other alternatives placed before this Body . In fact, standing up in the gallery is Representative Hicks, Who has introduced a video poker bill. Now Whether you agree with video poker or whether you do not, if you want to talk about a tax that you may Want to impart that will give you immediate dollarsy 'cause those things are already goinç on, that's one that you should probably look at. And, Senator Lauzen, belngs you used my name, I'm surprised at you. As I understandy you 're a businessman. As I understand r you 're you're -- you 're a good accountant. And I'm surprised that you think the fourteen cents stays at fourteen cents. Any gocd business person is going to add their margin of profit onto a tax. It's a cost of dcing business. So that fourteen cents becomes seventeen and a half cents, and then when it gets to the retailery it becomes twenty-cne cents, and by the time you add your sales tax on there, you're at around twenty-three and a half cents. Senator, doesn't stay at -- at fourteen cents. accelerates. And there's a tremendous difference between a user 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 fee on motor fuel tax and hlghways than there can ever be an analogy between cigarette smoking and nursing homes. And in closing, I just want to add againr 'cause I -- I just canlt reiterate enough: We have been told that Governor Edgar is doing away with the granny tax. The granny tax, folksr in case on the other side of the alsle you don't understand it, it's dead. It's been dead since June 30th. There is no granny tax at this polnt. So let's not try tc confuse the issue with granny tax and cigarette taxes. I thtnk it's unfair to a1l of our constituents.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jones.

Thank your Mr. President, Members of the Senate. You know, as one who has occasionally lndulged in smoking, if this legislation becomes law , I'm going to call on a11 cigarette smckers in Illinois to go on strike for about six months. Then wefll be back here in the fall in Veto Sesston trying to deal with the issue of a proper tax. I was one of the first persons - I belleve I was the only one of the Leaders - who came out publicly against this regressive tax, at which time when it uas -- was put up for consideration. The reason why I did this is because I felt it was a flat tax; there is no growth to this tax and the tax was taxing the nany who smoked - many who may be pocr - to take care of the few who -- who -- who are ln nursing hcmes. And the issues that Senator Howard Carroll brought to the table on many occasionsr such as closing the loop -- the current loopholes on pharmaceutical drugs and also closing the loophole as it relate to the deli tax, I just wanted to correct one of my friends on that side of the aisle. If you gc to a restaurant and you eat a meal or a sandwich, you pay a tax. If ycu go to a deli or you go to Jewel -- Food Store and eat that same sandwich that's prepared for you, you don't pay the tax. That is -- that is one of the loopholes in 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July l2, 1993 the -- our Illinois Revenue Code that should be closed. Manyz many attempts were made in the conferences to try to resolve this critical issue, and all the attempts fell on deaf ears - no one would listen. But I want to make one clarlficakicn as it relate to those persons who are elders who are in nursing homes. There was a remark made on the other slde of the aisle, and I hope this is the last time that I hear this type of remark. The funding for the Medicaid Assessment Program comes in three categories: It comes from the assessment as it relate to the hcspital portion, which there is no basic problem with that; comes from the increased licensing fee that we put on, which the nursing home owners pay; and the third source is this proposed cigarette tax. Now the cigarette tax has nothing to do with the hospital portion just the nursing home portton. And the misconception we have in this Body, that we have in this Statee that all those persons -- ln the nursing home are poore from inner city, and they're on Medicaid. Let's not ourselves about this. I don't Want anyone sayingr ''These are your constituenks.'' These are Illinoisans that we are concerned about. And and you Would be surprised to find some of your colleagues who have their parents in a nursing home, on public aid. So when you try to stereotyper there is only one, you 're doing a -- disservlce to what we are attemptlng to do. I don't like this tax. Itds regressive. And there is no growth to it. But elghty percent, I believe, of those on Medicaid in nursing homes are not black; theyfre noE Hispanicy as -- as one may try to projeet to this Body. And I hope it's the last time lt is said, I don't like taxing the many to take care of the few. And that is what this is. But I am a responsible legislator. I recognize that the nlsconception we have about this tax -- a1l the grannies think they pay it, and that is not so. Unfortunately - unfortunately - we dld not receive a programr when the Governor gave his Budget Address, to solve this problem. 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 1993 There was no program -- put in place. It Was talked abouty but no mechanism to deal with this serious, seriou: problem , as it relate to our elders. A11 the talk about public aid and a11 this stuff. The swollen Mississippi River going to drive more -- persons to the rolls of public aid. And the majority of those who are on those rolls are not black and Hispanic. So let's quit playing those games, talking about, ''It is your people.'' These are Oour'' people that are in need in the State of Illinois. And we -- uhen we cease that kind of stereotype rhetoric, when we cease doing it herer it will cease in the other plaees of this -- of this great State. I don't like this tax, but I'm a responsible legislator. I feel that we must do something as it relate to the misconception that the seniors have on this granny tax, and I am pledged -- I support the concept. We met. Wedve met for nany hours. I got tired of looking that Pate Philip in the face, but I must do what I feel is right. We -- we don't need this type tax; it's regressîve. TAe most proper tax tàere is is tho income tax, but this is the only ship in town at this point in time in this Chamber, and so urge ny Members to cast a Yea vote on Senate Bill

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Maitland, to close.

Thank you very much, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. One of the most difficult things khat we debate on the Floor of this Chamber from time Eo time deals with attemptlng ta raise revenue to fund various State programs. Maurice Scott was a good friend of mlne, and Maurice Scott Was a friend to many of you in this Chamber. Maurice Scott Was the former Executive Director of the Illinois Taxpayers' Federationr and often gave speeches on taxes. And he saidr ''The only good tax - the anly good tax - is a tax on hair oil, brushes and combs.'' Maurice Scott was bald . The 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH REGE UN LE ARAL SEA SSS IE OM NBLY j SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 I I point is, the only good tax is the tax that doesn't affect me. ; And in time -- and from time to time ln State Government, we have to rise, as Senator Jones is doing, and make tough decisions. Many of us have sat hour by hour this spring, trying to resolve this very difficult issue. Al1 fifty-nine of us heard from senior citizens from across our district a1l year long, that we had to make a change. And we Worked, and we talked, and We debated, and we discussed. And Senatcr Jacobs and others who have opposed this tax, Senator Carroll: This is the only tax - the only tax that we can agree to to do what we know has tc be done. The alternativer Ladies and Gentlemen, is between a thirty- and forty-percent increase in rates on the very people we are trying tonight to help. Because if we don't pass this tax, if we don't do this, then those rates go up and those rates fall upon those senior citizens, those people we are trying to help, not at last year's level, but indeed, much greater. It's a fact of life. We are sent here to be responsible legislators. This is a tough decision for a11 of us to nake. And make lt tonight we nust. A special thanks to the long-term health care industry. All three major groups have worked side by side. The Illinois Hospital Association, many legislators, and individuals and businesses have worked together to help put this paekage togekher. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the only act in town, and urge -- I urge your support of Conference Committee Repcrt on Senate Bill 677.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The question is, shall the Senate adop: the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 677. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 38, the Nays are 15r 3 voting Present. The Senate does adopt the Conference Report on Senate Bill 677. And the bill, having received the required three-fifths majority, is declared passed. : 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 88TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 76th Legislative Day July 12, 1993 I might remind the Membership that tomorrow morning at 8:30, in Room 212, Revenue Will meet; at 9 a.m., 400, Insurance; and at 9:30 ln Roon 400, Judiciary; at 9:30, A-l, Loeal Governnent; at 9:30 in 212, Education. Resolutlons.

Senate Resolution 701, offered by Senator Shaw and a11 Members. Senate Resolution 702: offered by Senators Philip, Dudycz and others. Senate Resolution 703 and 704, offered by Senator Topinka. Senate Resolution 705 by Senator Mahar. Senate Resolution 706, by Senator Ralph Dunn, as is Senate Resolution 707. Senate Resolution 708, by Senator Mahar. Senate Resolution 709, by Senator Dudycz. They're a11 congratulatory and death resolutions, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Consent Calendar.

Senate Joint Resolution 8l, Constitutional Amendmenty offered by Senators Ralph Dunn and Fawell.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Introduction cf Bills.

Senate Bill 1112. (SecreEary reads title of bill) lst Reading of the bill.

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