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Illinois Senate Floor Debate — February 10, 1995

89th General Assembly (1995-1996) · Legislative day 15 · Regular Session
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February 10, 1995
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PRESIDENT PHILIP

The regular Session of the 89th General Assembly will please come to order. Wi11 the Members please be at their desks and Will our gueses in the gallery please rise. Our prayer today Will be given by Reverend Gordon McLeany First Presbyterian Church, Springfield, Illinois. Reverend McLean.

THE REVEREND GORDON MCLEAN

(Prayer by the Reverend Gordon McLean)

PRESIDENT PHILIP

If you'll please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance, given by Senator Sieben. Senator Sleben.

SENATOR SIEBEN

(Pledge of Allegiance, led by Senator Sleben)

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Just to bring the Membershtp up to date: What we intend on doing today is gcin: through 2nd Readings, Hause Bills 3rd r and then go back to where we left off yesterday on Senate Bills 3rd Reading - I think it was Senate Bill 101, believe and ploW ahead. And we'11 probably be out of here, I Would hope, by 10230 or 11 o'clock at the latest. Reading of the Journal. Senator Butler.

SENATOR BUTLER

Mr. President, move that reading and approval of the Journals of Tuesday: February 7th7 Wednesday, February 8th: and Thursday, Eebruary 9th, the year 1995, be postponed, pending arrlval of the printed Journal.

PRESIDENT PHILIF

Senator Butler moves to postpone the reading and the approval of the Journal, pendins the arrival of Ehe printed Eranscript. There being no objee*ion, so ordered. Regolutions.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Resolution 23, offered by Senators O'Malley, Mahar and STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 1995 others. Senate Jolnt Resolution 20, offered by Senators Watson and Syverson. And Senate Joint Resolution 21, offered by Senator Mahar. Theydre al1 substantive, Mr. President.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Introduction of Bills.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 409. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 410, offered by Senator Dudycz. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 411, offered by Senators Dudycz and Trotter. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) senate Bill 412, by Senators Dudycz and Trotter. (Secretary reads title of bil1) Senate Bill 413, by Senators Dudycz and Trotter. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 414, by Senators Dudycz and Trotter. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 415, by Senators Dudycz and Trotter. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 416, by Senator Dudycz. (Secretary regds title of bill) Senate Bill 417, by Senator Sieben. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 418, Senator Tom Dunn. (secretary reads kitle of bill) SenaEe Bill 419, by Senator O 'Malley. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 420, by Senator Fawell. (secretary reads title of bill) 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 10, 1995 And Senate Bill 421, by Senator Farley. (Secretary reads tltle cf bill) lst Reading of the bills.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

...a request from WICS to videotape the proceedings. Is there leave? Leave is granted. The second page cf the Calendar, Senate Bills 2nd Reading, at the top of the page. Senate Bill Senator Watson. Read the bill.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 8. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Hea1th and Welfare adopted Amendment No .

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Have there been any other Floor amendments that have been approved for conslderation?

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

No further amendments reported, Mr. President.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

3rd Reading. Senate Bill 72. Senator de1 Valle. Senate Bill 72. Senator del Valle. Take out of the record. Senate Bill 76. Senator Peterson. Senator Peterson. Take it out of the record. Senate Bi11 100. Senator Dudycz. Senator Dudycz. Take it out of the record. .senate Bill 105. Senator Fawell. Senator Fawell. Senate Bill 1057 Read the bill.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 105. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments, Mr. Presldent.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

3rd Reading. Senate Bill 112. Senator Woodyard. Senator STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 10: 1995 Woodyard. Take it out of the record . Senate Bill 133. Senator Peterson. Senator Peterson. Take it out of the record. Senate Bl11 141. Senator Woodyard. Read the bill.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 141. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Education adepted Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Have there been any other Floor amendments that have bepn approved for consideration?

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

No further amendments reported, Mr. President.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

3rd Reading. Senate Bill 168. Senator Syverson. Senator Syverson. 168. Take it out of the record. Senate Bill 203. Senator Trotter. Senator Trotter. Senate Bl1l 203. Read the bill.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 203. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Readlng of the bill. The Committee on Public Health and Welfare adopted Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Have there been any other Floor amendments that have been approved for consideration? gECRETARY HARRY: No further amendments reportedr Mr. President.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

3rd Reading. Senator Hawkinson. Senate Bill Take out of Ehe record.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February l0, 1995 Page 6. On page 6 of today's Calendar is the Order of House Bills 3rd Reading. House Bill 200. Senator Dudycz. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

House Bill 200. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dudycz.

SENATOR DUDVCZ

Thank you, Madam President. On -- four years ago We created the property tax extension limitatlon law, whlch lmposed property tax caps to the five collar counties. On November 8th, 1994, voters of Cook County...

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) May we have the attention -- the undivided attention of this august Body, While Senator Dudycz is willing to explain this very momentous bill.

SENATOR DUDVCZ

Thank you, Madam President. On November 8th, 1994, voters of Cook County, an advisory referendum , told the General Assembly that they also wanted tax caps that were granted four years ago to the five collar counties. Eighty-three percent of Ehose who voiced an opinton on tax caps clearly stated that they did support legtslation which would restrict local governments' abilities to raise their property taxes by requiring a referendum for any property tax increase over and above five percent cr the Consumer Price Index, whichever is less. House Blll last week, we passed Senate Bill ly bringing tax caps to Cook Countyr by a vote of 46 to 12, and House Bill 200 is an identical bill to Senate Bill with one exempticn. The exemption is that where Senate Bill exempted debt service for bonds issued prior to the effective date 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February l0, 1995 of ehe bill, House Bill 200 exempks debt service for bonds lssued prior to March 1995. Other than that, it is identical to Senate Bill Which does the following : It extends tax caps to non-home rule unlts in Cook County and Eaxing distrlcts in the collar counties that were -- were not already capped; iE keeps prior year EAV in Cook County in calculating the accountable amount of extension; it limits the 1995 extension, which is the 1994 levy payable this year, to one hundred and five percent of 19931s levy; and beginning with the 1995 levy year, payable next year, lt limlts the growth to Ehe lower of five percent or the CPI, whichever is lcwer; and finally, clarifies upon dissolution of a TIF financing districtr a11 of the increment ts to be calculated as new property. And like I sald, it is identical to Senate Bill 1, which passed the -- *he Senate by a vote of 46 to 12, other than the March 1 date for the debt service exemption for bonds issued .

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-RARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Berman.

SENATOR BERMAN

Thank you: Madam President. Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-RARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) He indicates he will yield.

SENATOR BERMAN

Is theve a reason why we didn't amend thls to be the same as the Senate Bill? Why does one have a March l exemption and the other one had an effective date exempticn?

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dudycz. Senator Dudycz.

SENATOR DUDYCZ

Well, Senator, the date was set by the -- *he Leadership of the House and Senate, whereby the efrective date of March lst would be when the -- Ehe bill Nould become effective. meany 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 10, 1995 can't explaln why lt would be differed from the other one. would have preferred we -- We kould proceed with Senate Bill ly and that's uhy I sponsored the language there and sent it over to the House. But in their wisdcmr the Leaders declded that they wanted to put a March lst date and send both bills to the -- to thP House and 1et the House determine Which one of the two they wished to proceed with and forward to the Governor's Office.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) SenaEor Berman.

SENATOR BERMAN

Then do read from your comments thatr in all likelihood, this will be the that they will concur in and March 1 will be the date? Your best -- your best guess.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dudycz.

SENATOR DUDYCZ

Well, Senator, as you kncw: We can't predict what the House is going to do; we never could. But it's my guess that -- that House Bill 200 will be the oney that the House will concur with our amendments and send to the Governor, for -- for his signature.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senatcr Berman.

SENATOR BERMAN

Weslr you were right that we never could predict what the House was going to do, but now : thlnk we can. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Dudyczy to close.

SENATOR DUDYCZ

Thank you, Madam President. Just briefly, to state that eighty -- eighty-three percent of the public in Cook County last November stated that they needr want: and deserve property tax STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Leqislative Day February 10, 1995 caps. Just like Senate Bill 1, 200 -- House Bill 200 gives that necessary property tax relief to *he top -- property owners of Ccok County. And I vould hope that other than the 46 to vote of last week, I would hope that We Would unanimausly support this nuch needed property tax cap for the people of Cook County.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is, shall House Bill 200 pass. Those favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Mr. Secretaryr take the record. On that question, there are 40 Yeasr 12 Naysy none voting Present. And this billr having received the required constitutional majorlty, is hereby declared passed. On page 4 of today's Calendar is the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading. The Chair would direct the Membership to Senate Bill 101. That's where we left off from yesterday. Senate B111 101. Spnator Madlgan. sorry. Senator Petka. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 101. (Secretary reads title of b111) 3rd Readtng of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka.

SENATOR PETKA

Thank you: Madam President, Members of the General Assembly. Senate Bi11 l01 is a -- a piece of legislation which came oue this Body last year 58 to zero. It also came out of the Pension Committee 10 to zero. What it basically does is permit a small number of peace officers in the State of Illinois Who have been denied access to the Pension Board to participate in the plan. These peace officers are very able-bodied and have served -- served the -- for public safety purposes over the last eiqht to 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1 15*h Legislative Day February l0, 1995 ten years, done a good jcb; but yet; because they have a disability - diabetes - they have been denied admission to the pension proqram. I *hink Eha: thaE is wrong. Thls bill simply seeks to correct that. I really know of no opposition, and I Would move for its -- I Would move for a favorable roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL: Thank you, Madam President. Will the sponsor yield for a question? How many are we talking about? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka. SENATOR PETKA: The numbers have increased. According to my staffer, we have more people who are ccming in every day with these disabilities. The last year, I believe there -- there was a total of five. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hall. SENATOR HALL) You don't know exactly right now . Is that correct? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka. SENATOR PETKA: The number is uncertain right now. It -- it will not be a large number# sir . PRESIDING OFFTCER) (SENATOR GEO-KARTS) Any furEher dlscusslon? Senator Collins . SENAI'OR COLLINS : I just rise in support of this -- this bill, because this is something that We have been trying to do. I think it brings fairness to the system . I don 't think no police and firemen who meet the qualifications and qualify to be on those -- to -- to be 9 STATE OF ILLTNOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February l0, 1995 employed in those particular entities should be denied participation in the -- the penslon system or -- or any other benefit that ls given to any other enployee, so I support the legislation.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further dlscussion? Hearing none, Senator Petka, to close.

SENATOR PETKA

would just move for a favorable roll call. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question shall Senate Bill 10l pass. Those favor kill vote Aye. Those opposed Will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who Wished? Have a11 voted Who wished? Mr. Secretary, take the record. On that bill, there are 54 Yeas, none votin: No, none votinq PresenE. And this bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 102. Mr. Secretaryr Will you read the bill. SECRETARY HARRYZ Senate Bill 102. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Madigan.

SENATOR MADIGAN

Thank your Madam Presldent and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill l02 extends the early rekirement option for downsEaEe and suburban Eeachers from June the 30th of 1995 to June *he 30th of 2000. This is not the five-and-five plan. Thls is the early retirement option, which has been in place prior to Ehat. There is no cost -- additional cost the pension system as a result of the extension of this. The matter is agreed upon by the employer and the employee in the school distrlcts, and they make the 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 10, 1995 contribution. be glad to answer any queskions; otherwise wculd ask for its appraval.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Hearing none, the quesEion is, shall Senate Bi11 102 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Thcse cppcsed vill voee Nay. The voting ls open. Have all voted Who wished? Have all voted whc wished? Mr. Secretary, take the record. On that question, there are 54 Yeas, none voting No, none voting Present. And this bill, having received the required constitutional majority: hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 103. Mr. Secretary, will you read the bill.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 103. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Madlgan.

SENATOR MADIGAN

Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bl1l 103 broughk to this Body by the five State systems. makes some changes in the five State -- or, in the Pension Code to bring the five State systems into compliance with recent changes in federal law. I'd be glad to answer any questlons, and otherwise would ask for its approval.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discusslon? Hearlng none, the question is# shall Senate Bill l03 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed Will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Mr. Secretary, take the record. On this question: there are 54 Veas, none voting Nay r none voting Present. And this bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared STATE OF ILLINOTS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 1995 passed. Senate Bill 104. Pass. Senate Bill 109. Senate Bill 113. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill. SECRETARY HARRY; Senate Bill (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hawkinsonr for What purpose do you rise?

SENATOR HAWKINSON

I wonder if the Senator Would take thls bill out of the recorde and I'm going to tell you why. It applles to a11 *he bills that were moved out of committee yesterdayr Were noved to 2ndr then were moved - really in vlolaEion of our rules - to Reading today. 1, for oner try and read a1l these things. Tt may not be necessary in a lot of cases, but we've had a praetice of a long time around here thaE when a bill comes out of committee, it sits on 2nd Reading for a day and then you have a chance to look at it, see if you want to amend it, then it moves to 3rd. The only reason I'n rising here, Senator, it's the first one called on this list, and I just don't think it's approprlate that we de these on 3rd Reading today, when they were just bumped out of committee yesterday.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-RARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Hasara.

SENATOR HASARA

Senator, I don't necessarily dlsagree with you. Ehls case, however, this was a that go* held over from Veto Session, and we can't move this over to the House, it neans that there are golng to be thousands of court cases that are goin: to have to be filed, and these cases are going to have to ga to court unnecessarily. So I'm -- I'm asking your permission to accept this for that reason only. 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Leglslative Day February 10, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hawkinson.

SENATOR HAWKINSON

Well, if the sponsor will yield for a questlon.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) She lndicates she will.

SENATOR HAWKINSON

Is this one that the Gcvernor has indicated he's going to sign this weekendr or...?

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hasara.

SENATOR HASARA

Senator, it has to go over to the House, but he's intending to sign it just as soon as he can.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-RARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Hawkinson.

SENATOR HAWKINSON

I'm sure wefre going to hear this on all these bllls. But I really think this is inappropriate, that we not follow our long-standing rules. There can be a rare exception around here, but to -- to kick out approximately twenty bills and not have them sit on 2nd Reading for a day and then move them to 3rd is -- isr I believe, an abuse of this process.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dunn.

SENATOR T. DUNN

Question of the sponsorp if I mayr Madam President.

PRESJDTNG OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIE)

PRESJDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIE) Question of the sponsor. Senator Hasarap Senator Dunn has a question of...

SENATOR T . DUNN

Senator Hasaray to make clear: Does this Bill l13 provtde 13 STATE OF ILLINOTS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 10e 1995 for hearings every ninety days, or does that do away with that?

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hasara.

SENATOR HASARA

Thank you. Actually, haven't even started explaining the bill yet. This question came up, but...

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) You want Lo hold your question t1l1 she...

SENATOR HASARA

I might, I wculd like to do that. A1l right. This bill is in response to a -- a court case from last year that says that a person even consents to receiving psychotropic drugs, it still must go to court. And obvlously, there are thousands and thousands of patients and people out there who know they need this medication, but this still must go to court. clogging up the courts. It's inhibiting the ability of guardians and the patients to receive the drugs that they need. The bill did pass the House, and -- and I had every intention of getting it out of here in Veto Sessicn; it simply got tied up the last day of Veto Session, but I've been called by judges, by lots of organizakions Ehat are -- are havlng a terrible problen because of this court decision.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dunn.

SENATOR T.. DUNN

Thank you. That answers ny question, and it goes With exactly the Way I feel too. Thank you .

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Palmer.

SENATOR PALMER

Thank you, Madam President. question of the sponsor, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 14 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February l0, 1995 She indicates she fll yield.

SENATOR PALMER

senator Hasara: what are the protections for the -- the patient?

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hasara.

SENATOR HASARA

The patient still has the right to objectr and then it must go to court. All we're doing is putting the 1aw -- the practice back the way it was before this court decision came out lasE year. It had worked very well.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discusslon? Hearing none, Senator Hasara, to close. Oh! I'm sorry. Senator Donahue. Question... Senator Donahue.

SENATOR DONAHUE

Welly thank you, Mr. President -- orr Madam President. I -- I just simply rise in strong support of this legislation. For those of you that have mental health tnstltutions in your eounties or in your districts, this is a serlous cost to the county government, and as long as there is protection for the person who does objectr the opportunity still exists. This is simply for those patients that consent and need the drugs and want the drugz then we don 't have to go through the court. So I just rise in strong support of this legislation.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further dlscussion? Senator Smith.

SENATOR SMITH

. .. you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. I join wholehearEedly with Senator...

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Hasara . 15 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 1995

SENATOR SMITH

.. . Hasara and Donahue, in asking this Body -- august Body to let this bill pass. dire need. People are suffering. And judges and a1l are asking us we ean help them any way. Please, I'm askln: you, let us support this blll, and 1et go out. Thank you so kindly.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Thank you. Any further discussion? Hearing noner Senator Hasara, to close.

SENATOR HASARA

While am extremely sensitive to Senator Hawkinson 's concerns, would ask that this bill get out of here so that we can get it to the Governor's desk as soon as possible, and wculd ask for a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The questton isy shall Senate Bill 1l3 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Mr. Secretary, take the reccrd. On that question, there are 52 Xeasr none voting Nay, none voting Present. And this blll, having received the requlred constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senator Jacobs, for what purpose do you rise, sir?

SENATOR JACOBS

Madam Presidenty Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, just to follow up on Senator Hawkinson's point that the rest of Ehese bills may not have followed the -- the schedule of rules. Ehlnk we got out the bills that are pretty much imporEant Eo -- to either side. And so that we don't viclate the rules not only once, but twenty times, I move b qe adjourn.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Your motion is no* in order at Ehis tlme. Did you hear me loud and clear? Howeverr if you insist, we'll put your motion up. STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legtslative Day February 10, 1995 There's a motion to adjourn by Senator Jacobs...tmicrophone cutoffl...however, we have a lot of paperwork to da, and Would - - was hoping, Senator Jacobs, that could prevail upon you tc withdraw your motion. Senator Jacobs.

SENATOR JACOBS

Madam Chairman, Ifd be more than happy to do that; let's just nct do any more 3rd Readings, 'cause I think we're in violation of our own rules. Tf you want Eo do the paperwork, I think that that's more than fine, and if that -- not -- if that is not the case, then I ask for a motion to adjourn. And for -- for a roll call vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-RARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Well, would you rather come back tomorrow? Because we have a lot of unfinished business, Senator Jacobs. Senator Jacobs.

SENATOR JACOBS

Madam Chairmanr I I think khat we can do the paperwork that Wants to be done. Bu* to do the 3rd Readings at this particular point, in violation of our own rulesz think even taints the legislation that we are passing over to the other Body. thtnk that that is a mistake on a11 of our parts. I've got a bill cn this on this agenda. But, to me, ue can wait till come back in March to do it.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-RARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Well...tmicrophone cutoffl... WBBM is requesting permlssicn to tape. Unless I hear objecKlons, permission is granted. Senator Jacobs, T don't think we dve done everything Wronq, and then so eould you possibly withdraw your motion at this timer so we can finish our business? Senator Jacobs.

SENATOR JACOBS

One moment. Under the rules under 7-5, Precedence of Motionsy when a question is under debate, no moElon may be entertained except a mction to adjourn. Thatls one of the items. 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislatkve Day February 10, 1995 think wedre well within the rules to do Ehat. I have no qualms in letting the business of this Dody go on. agree with Senator Hawkinson. want to see the duties of this business go on under the rules that We as a Body have voted upon.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Well, why don 't you...

SENATOR JACOBS

Ncw, there is a procedural question of whether you Want to get certain things done, that -- that's fine. I have no qualms with that. But to go on with the activities of 3rd Reading, I think is a serious mlstake. And can get a commitment on that, withdraw my motion.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Jacobsy if you persist, we have to give you a roll call. But was hoplng could prevail upon your kindness to withdraw your motion so we can finish some of the work at hand. You're depriving me of my right to preside here. Senator Jacobs.

SENATOR JACOBS

have no qualms in dolnq that. If if you give me a commitment that we will go to the business at hand that is legally before us, I will accept that. But we are going to contlnue with the 3rd Readings, then ask for -- for the motion to be heard.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The problem that we have: We wane ec finish a lot of this business today, so we don 'E have to come in Eomorrow, or before the firse of March. T would ask Senator Jacobs to withdraw his motlon, if I may, once more. Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS; Because I'n not trying to be dilatory in any manner here think ycu know me better than that - but I think we had a Supplemental Calendar yesterday. If we could pull the bills that 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day Pebruary 10, 1995 are on the supplemental Calendar, I khink that very well may fit in Eo what Senator Hawkinson uas saying and what the intent of my - - my motlon is. you know, if anybody has got a bill that they absolutely want to have heard, I would just suggest tc them that they don't call it, and lf they do want to call it, they ask for suspenslon of the rules in order for that to be heard, in each individual case. 'Cause think, as Senator Hawkinson's indicated, this is not really the the -- in the best interest of this Body. If -- if I can get some commitment from the Chair that wedre going to move with due diligence and attempt not to do those, 1'11 be more than happy to withdraw my motian.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hawkinson.

SENATOR HAWKINSON

Thank -- thank ycu: Madam President. kould join in the reguest to Senator Jacobs to withdraw the motion. We do have a number of bills that Were properly an the Calendar yesterdayr and I don 't think wedre goln: to hear any more that were moved too quickly. we could do the other business and the bills that are properly before us on 3rd Reading, T think it would expedite matters, Senator. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Jacobs.

SENATOR JACOBS

And that's what I've been asking. And can get that commitment from the Chairr 1'11 wiEhdraw my mokion.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The only commitment you'll you 're going to get from the Chair is I uant to do the best I can up here. Are you Withdrawing your notion or aren't you?

SENATOR JACOBS

Coming -- Madam Chairmany coming from you I Will accept that, 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 10, 1995 because I know you are a Woman of your Word.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Thank ycu. Senator Jacobs ls withdrawlng his mction, so proceed with the business at hand. Senate Bill 115. Senator Madigan. Would you read -- please read the billr Senator -- Mr. Secretary.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Bill 115. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Madigan.

SENATOR MADIGAN

Thank ycu thank you, Madam President, Members of the Senate. Senate B1l1 l15 has to do with teachers in the downstate and suburban Penslon Codes, to be able to go back and purchase pregnancy leave that uas not able to be credited prior tc 1982 When -- prior to 1982 when maternity leave was granted to teachers. That's basically what the bill does; they go back and plck up their costs plus -- or, their payments plus interest. be happy to answer any questions, and would otherwise ask for approval.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Senator Welch.

SENATOR WELCH

have a question of the...

PRESIDING OEFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Just a moment. Just a moment. Ladies and Gen*lemen, please give your undivided attention to the current Senator kho's speakins, who has the Floor. Senator Welch . Senator Welch.

SENATOR WELCH

have a question of the sponsor. 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February l0r 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER (EENATOR GEO-KARTS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (EENATOR GEO-KARTS) He -- he indicates he 'll yield . Would you ask your question.

SENATOR WELCH

Senatory hoW much will this increase the unfunded liability of the Pension Fund for the downstate teachers?

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Madigan.

SENATOR MADIGAN

Thank you, Madam President. Senator Welch, accordin: to the Illinols Economic and Fiscal Conmission report on this, the fiscal impact would be minor.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-RARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Welch.

SENATOR WELCH

Well -- welly as you know, Senator, a11 of us downstate are :oing to meetings thls coming *wo weeks Eo discuss th9 Downstate Teachersl Pension Fund and the fact that not properly funded. And We're a1l getting beat upr frankly, at every -- every meeting we qo to because of the -- well, maybe youlre not, Senator, but I was at a meeting that they were looking for you at and you Weren't there. But I have been. And they say there's not enough money in there to cover their health insurance. You knowr and now we 're -- I don't know, it seems to me vedre addlng more -- more liability to *he Fund. A* what point are we going to pass a bill that funds the program?

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Madigan.

SENATOR MADIGAN

Thank you, Madam President. Senator Welch, We passed Senate Bil1 533 last year, dealin: with the pension funding. The matter that yousre referring to -- to dor has a result of the change in the federal 1aw as far as the TRF System payments, as far as 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 1995 health insurance. But the funding of the pension system Was addressed in Senate Bill 533: which you voted for.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Hearing noner Senator Madigan, to close.

SENATOR MADIGAN

I'd just ask fcr its -- fcr an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The questlon is, shall Senate Bill 1-1-5 - pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have all voted Who wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 51 Yeas, 3 Nays, none voting Present. And the billr having received its required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 116. Senate Bill 124. Senate Bill 127. Senate Bill 159. Senator Raica. Senator Raica, for what purpose do you rise?

SENATOR RAICA

Madam President, just on behest of Senator Hawkinson and Senator Jacobsy this was on the Supplemental Calendar yesterday and 1.11 choose to hold the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Okay. Senator Burzynski, for what purpose do you rise, sir? Senator Burzynski.

SENATOR BURZYNSKI

think that -- thank you, Madam President. I Would move that the Senate resolve itself into Executive Session for the purpose of acting on the Governor's appointments set forth in his Message of January 1995. Madam Presidentg with respect Eo the Governor's Message of January 31st, '95, read the unsalaried appointment to Which the Senate Committee...

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Burzynski, we're not quite ready to go yet. We have 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day Pebruary 10, 1995 to get the report read in first. We 're waiting for some nore paperwork. And by the way, whlle we dre waiting, I'd like to apologize to Senator Jacobs, because a motion to adjourn is always in order. And I apologize to him . But I was hoping I could prevail on him . Message from the House.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Message from the House by Mr. McLennand, Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatlves has passed bills of the following titles, in the passage of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bllls -- 46 and 186. Passed the Houser February 9th, 1995. We have a like Message on House Bill 204. PRESIDING OFFTCERJ (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) We're still waiting for some more paperwork from upstairsr so you may relax a couple of minutes, but don't leave. We now go into Execukive Session with the purpose of advise and consent. Mr. Secretaryr may we have the Committee Report.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senator Burzynski, Chair of the Committee on Executive AppointmenEs, reports the following from the Gcvernor's Message of January 31st, 1995.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) senator Burzynski.

SENATOR BURZYNSKI

Thank you, Madam Presldent. I move the Senate resolve itself into Executive Session for the purpose of acting on the Governor's appoinEment set forth in his Message of January 31st, 1995. Madam President: with respect to the Governor's Message of January 31st, '95, 1111 read the unsalaried appointment to which the Senate Committee on Executive Appointments recomnends that the Senate do STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day FebruarY 1995 advise and consent: To be a member of the Illinois Development Finance Autbority for a term ending January 18th, 1999, Mr. Harry Seigle of East Dundee. Madam President, having read the unsalaried appointment, J now seek leave to consider this appointment on a roll call. And, Mr. -- Madam President, will you please put the question as required by our rules?

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Hearlng none, the question is: does the Senate advise and consent to the nominations just made. Those in favor shall vote Aye. Those opposed shall vote Nay. The voting is open. Have -- have a11 voted Who uished? Have all voted Who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On that question, there are 52 Ayes; there are none voting No; none voting Present. And this -- khis majority of Senators elected, concurring by record vote, dces advise and consent the nomination just made. Senator Burzynski.

SENATOR BURZYNSKI

Madam President, move that the Senate artse from Executive Session.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) You 've heard the motion. Those favor, say Aye. Those opposed, say Nay. The motion carries. Resolueions.

Harry (surname or first name uncertain)

Senate Joint Resolutlon 22, offered by Senator Dudycz. (Secre*ary reads SJR No.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Du'dycz moves to suspend the rules for the purpose of the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 2 Ksic>. Those in favor will say Aye. Aye. Those oppased. The Ayes have The rules are suspended. It's SJR 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February 10r 1995 22. Senator Dudycz has noved for the adoption of SJR 22. Those in favor, say Aye. Those opposed. The Ayes have iE, and Eh9 resolution is adopted. We...tmicrophone cutoffl... We now proceed to the Order of Resolutions Consent Calendar. With leave of the Bodyy al1 of those read in today will be added to the Consent Calendar. Mr. Secretary, have there been any objectians filed to any resolution on the Consent Calendar? SECRETAR? HARRY: No objections have been filedr Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Hearing none, the question ls, shall the resolutlons on the Consent Calendar be adopted. those favor, say Aye . Aye. A1l opposedy Nay. The motlon Aye carriesy and the resolutions are adopted. Introduction of Bills.

ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER

Senate Bill 422, offered by Senator Madlgan. (Secretary reads title of bill) SenaEe Bi1l 423, offered by Senator Madigan. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 424, offered by Senators Philip and Madigan. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senaee Bill 425, offered by Senator Geo-Karis. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 426, offered by Senator Walsh. (Secretary reads title of bl1l) senate Bil1 427, offered by Senator Donahue. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bi11 428, offered by Senator Thomas Dunn. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bil1 429, offered by Senators Burzynski and Watson. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 430, offered by Senator Madigan. 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 15th Legislative Day February l0z 1995 (Secretary reads title of bill) And Senate Bill 431: offered by Senator Sieben. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd <s1c> Reading of the bills. And Senate Bill 432, cffered by Senatcrs DeAngelis and Jacobs. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senate Bill 433, offered by Senator Barkhausen. I (Secretary reads title of bill) I 3rd <sicl Reading of the bills. I I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I Resolutions.

ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER

Senate Joint Resolution 23r offered by Senator Madi:an. i It is substantive.

PRESIDING OFFICER (SENATOR GEO-KARIS)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Pursuant to the adjournment resolution, the Senate stands adjourned: and I wish a1l of you a happy Valentine's Day, particularly my friend, Eenator Jacobs, who had to bring scme excltement on my shift. Senate stands adjourned. 26 i REPORT: TIFLDAY STâTQ OF ILLINOIS 95/02/27 PAGE: 001 89TH GEVERAL âSSEMBLV 15:13:50 SENATF DZILY TRZNSCRIPTION OF DEBâTE INDEX FEBRUâRY 10, 1995 i HB-0200 THiRD REâDING PAGE 5 SB-0008 SECOND READING PAGE 3 I S ôB-O1 - 01TH 01O2 RDRE THIRD ADEN REàDING Pâ PZGE 8 10 j SB-0103 THIRD REàDING PACE 11 SB-0105 SECOND READING P2GE 3 . 3B-0113 THIRD REàDIVG PAGE 12 SB-01:5 THIRD READIPG PAGE 20 3B-O1)1 SECOMD READING PAGE M 58-0203 SECOND REâDING PACE R SB-0y09 FIRST READING PRGE 2 SB-04:0 FIRST READING P2GE 2 SB-Ok11 FIRST READING PAOE 2 SB-0412 FIRST REZDING PAGE 2 p SB-0)13 FIRST READING PAGE 2 I 8B-0R1M FIHST READING PAGE 2 I SB-0k15 FIRST READING PAGE 2 I sB-0R16 FIRST READING PAGE 2 3B-0k17 FIRST READING P2OE 2 3B-0%18 FIRST R6ADING PAGE 2 j sB-0419 FIPST PEADTNG PAGE 2 I sB-Ok20 FIRST HEADING PAGE 2 I 3B-OR21FIRST READING PAGE 3 I 38-0422 FIRST READING PAGE 25 I SB-Oy23 FIRST READING PAGE 25 3B-0k2M FIRST READING PAGE 25 ! SB-0R25 FIRST REZDING PAGE 25 sB-0#26FIRSTHEADING 38-0:27 FIRST READIMG PAGE PAGE 25 25 / SB-0M28 FIRST READING PAGE 25 38-0:29 FIRST READING PAGE 25 SB-0M30 FIRST READIPG PAGE 25 sB-0:31 FIRST REZDINC PAGE 26 SB-O432 FIPST READING PAGE 26 88-0:33 FIRST READING PAGE 26 . sR-0023 RESOLUTION QFFERED PâGE 1 . SJR-0020 RESOL UTION OFFERED PZGE 2 SJR-0021 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 SJR-0022 ADOPTED SJR-OO22 RESOLUTION OFFERED PRGE PAGE 25 2: 1 ' :J:-0023 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 26 1 I SUBJEC? MATTER I SEMATE T0 ORDER-PRESIDEPT PHILIP PAGE 1 PRâfER-THE REVEREND GORDON HCLEZN PLEDGE OF ALLEGIZNCE PAGE PAGE 1 1 l JOURNALS-POSTPQNED PZGE 1 HESSAGES FROH THE HOUSE PZGE 23 . COMMITTEE REPORT PAGE 23 EXECUTIVE SESSION PAGE 23 ARISE FROH EXECUTIVE EESSION PAGE 2: RESOLUTIOVS CONSENT CALFNDAR-ZDOPTED PAGE 25 ADJOORNMENT PAGE 26 1 1 ? I