Illinois Senate Floor Debate — May 21, 1995

The regular Session of the 89th General àssembly will pleaGe come to order. Will the Members please be at their desks. Will our quests in the gallery please risê. Our prayer today will be given by Senator Adeline Jay Geo-Karis. Senator Geo-Karis.

Thank you, Mr. President. (Prayer by Senator Geo-Karis)

You please all rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. Senator Sieben.

(Pledge of Allegiance, led by Senator Sieben)

Reading of the Journal.

Senate Journals of Monday, May 15th7 Tuesday, May 16th and Wednesday, May 17th, 1995.

Senator Butler.

Mr...tmicrophone cutoffl...move that the Journals just read by the Secretary be approved, unless some Senator has additions or corrections to offer.

Senator Butler moves to approve the Journal just read. There being no objection, so ordered. Senator Butler.

Mr. President, I move that reading and approval of the Journals of Thursday, May 18th and Friday, May 19th, in the year 1995, be postponed, pending arrival of the printed Journals.

l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY RCGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2lp 1995 Senator Butler moves to postpone the reading and the approval of the Journal, pendlnq the arrival of the printed transcripts. There being no objection, so ordered.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) We're going to proceed shortly on the Order of 2nd Reading, and we Would appreciate it if anyone is outside of the Assembly of the Senate, to please come in here and let's 9et the people's business done. Messages from the House.

Messaqe from the House by Mr. McLennand , Clerk. Mr. President - am directed to inform the Senate that the House oé Representatives has concurred with the Senate in the passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: Senate Bill 384, together with the following amendment, which is ateached, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate: to wit: House Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 384. We have a like Message on the following Senate Bills with House Amendments: 447 with Amendment 17 509 with Amendments and 2: 540 with Amendment and 629 with Amendment 1. A11 passed the House, May 18th, 1995. We have a like Message on the following Senate Bills with House Amendments: 46 with Amendment 79 with Amendments 1, 2 and 3: l41 with Amendment 17 l50 with Amendment 47 164 with Amendment 37 and 74l with Amendment 3. A1l passed the House on May l9thr 1595. We have another Message on *he followinq Senate Bills with House Amendments: l30 with House Amendments 4, 5 6 and 7; l69 with Amendment 1: 23l with Amendments l and 22 265 with Amendment 4: 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legëslative Day May 2l, 1995 433 with Amendment 22 435 with Amendment 443 witb Amendments and 27 6l9 with Amendment 72l with Amendments 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, l0, (11), l2, 13, l4, 15 and l6; 842 with Amendments 1 and 2, and 925 with Amendment 1. (Amendment within parentheses inadvertantly not read into record.) A1l passed the House, May 20th, 1995. And another Message on Senate Bill 1066 with House Amendment 1. Passed the House, May 21st, 1995.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, on page 9 of today's Calendar is the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading. Mr. Seçretary, will you proceed. Page 9. First bill is House Bill 32. Take it out of the record. House Bill 820. Senator Maitland. Out of the record. House Bill 865. Senator O'Malley. Out of the record. Senate <sic> Bill 1089. Senator Mahar. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1108 -- I mean, House Bill 1108. Senator Raica. Out of the record. House Bill 1437. Senator Petka. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

House Bill 1437. (Secretary reads title of bill)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Are there any...

2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary adopted Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Have there been any Floor amendments that have been approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 2, ojjered by Senator Petka. 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l? 1995 i I !

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka .

Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 2 represents a compromise that was reached with some of the opponents initially of Senate Amendment No. l. It cleans up the language and -- and meets the concerns that were raised, and I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 1s there any further discussion? Hearing none, al1 those in favor, vote Aye -- say Aye. A11 opposed, Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it and the amendment is adopted. Are there any further amendments approved for consideration?

No further amendments reported.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. House Bi11 1473. Senator Weaver. Out of the record. House Bi11 1474. Senator Weaver. Out of the record . House Bi11 1654. Senator Petka. OuE of the record. House Bi11 2108. Senator Madigan. Out of the record . House Bill 2261. Senator DeAngelis. Out of the record. House Bi11 2294. Senator Mahar. Out of the record. With leave of the Body, can we go back to 1108 for Senator Raica? Hearinq no objectlon, leave ls granted. Senator Raica: 1108:/ Mr. Secretary , Mi11 you read the bil1.

House Bi11 1108. (Secretary reads title of bil1) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Have there been any Floor amendments that have been approved for cons ideratlon? 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995

Amendment No. offered by Senator Raica.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Raica.

Madam President, can 1 have leave to have Senator Vlverito handle Amendment No. 1 to House Bill 11087

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any objection? Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Senator Viverito.

May I say, Senator Raica, No. 2 is my amendment. Amendment No. 27

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Raica.

Madam President, Amendment No. is audits to the MWRD, and 1 just move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) .. . t microphone cutoffl...for a moment, because we have some problems with the power. Mr. Secretary, is the power in order now?

Madam President, on House Bill 1108, Amendment No. was held in committee. Floor Amendment No. 2 is offered by Senators Viverito and Raica.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Viverito, Senate Amendment No. 2.

Thank you, Madam Chairman. Thank you, Madam Chairman. This amendment to House Bill 1108, the Amendment No. 2 -- Kmendment 1108 on page by replacing line 1 and 2 with the following. 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 This is the opportunity to change the Water Reclamation District into elected nine-member board.

PRESJDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Al1 those in favor of Amendment No. 2, say Aye. A1l opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it, in the opinion of the Chair. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Any iurther amendments for -- that have been approved for consideratfon? SECRETARY HARRYI No further amendments reported.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. House Bill... On pase l2: there is Senate Bill 428: on the Order of Secretary 's Desk, Concurrence of Senate Bills. The intent of the Chair is to proceed to this order for the purpose of non-concurrin: motions. Senator Dunn. Mr. Secretary, will you read Senate Bill 428.

Senate Bill 428 with House Amendment 3.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SESATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Thomas Dunn.

Thank you, Madam President. I move to non-concur with House Amendment No. 3. PRESIDING OFFICER:ISENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dunn moves to non-concur with House Amendment No. 3. A1l those in favor, say Aye. All opposedy say Nay. ln the opinion ot the Chair, the Ayes have it. The motion carries, and the Secretary shall so inform the House. On page 5 of today's Calendar is the Order of House Bills 3rd Reading. We're going to proceed to the Order of 3rd Reading on page Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. And could we ask you for a little order. :oW that you've been away for two days, please give us your utmost attention. Thank you. Page 5. House Bill 36. Senator Dillard. 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSCMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqislative Day May 2l, 1995 Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

House Bill 36. (secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR GRO-KARTS) Senator Dillard.

Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1'11 start us off tonight on 3rd Reading. This bill does two things. First, it amends the Juvenile Court Act to encourage discretionary transfer to adult courk of minors who are charqed with the delivery of greater than ten qrams of cannabis, or within a thousand feet of school grounds. Courts can do this today, but we feel that we need this change in the law to basically encourage the court, when it's near a school, or when it's a large amount of marijuana, to try them as adults. The second thing that this bill does ts that we added a cleaned-up version of House Bill 115, that allows law enforcement agencies that have a reciprocal agreement with a school in their jurisdiction, as authorized under the School Code, to provide the school with arrest information on minors from that scbool, and that better coordinates juvenile delinquency activity between the school offieials, as well -- and their local law enforcement officials. I'd be happy to answer any questions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing none, the question is, shall House Bill 36 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted Who Wished? Have al1 voted who Wished? Take the record , Mr. Secretary. On that questlon, there are 56 votinq Aye, none voting Nay, none voting Present. And this bill,  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEM3LY REGULAR SSSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 41. Senator Mahar. House 9il1 90. ' I Senator Karpiel. Out of the record. House Bi11 150. Senator ! Klemm. Read tbe bill, Mr. Secretary.

House Bill 150. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Klemm .

Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. House sill l50 allows for incorporation of a small municipality located in Kane County, and Amendment No. l is a provision for Lake County that would prohibit municipalities in Lake County from annexin: noncontiquous territories separated by a forest preserve district. That's al1 it does, and 1 ask for your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Lauzen.

Just a question for the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICBR: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He yield -- he indicates he will yield.

Is this the bill that deals with Prestbury in -- outside of Aurora?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm .

Yes. j PRESIDING OFFICER, (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) l Senator Lauzen. 1 8  STATE OP ILLINOTS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day Ma# 1995 SENATOR LAUZENI May I just ask what the Senator's position, who represents that area, is on this bill? Does he request passage or rejection of the measure?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm.

Senator Rauschenberger, who spoke to, is not too enthusiastic about this. Everybody else seems to be neutral. He knows -- wants us to proceed with it# but he did want on record, to sbow that he's not enthusiastic. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussions? Senator Jacobs.

Thank youy Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Would the sponsor yield for question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates that he will.

Senator, way it appears to me here, what we're going to be starting, and we're goinq to set a precedent on, is to allow one unit of government to leapfrog over another unit of government, to continue their unit of government. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm .

1'm not sure 1 understood your question. Was distracted here.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Would you clarify your question, Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACO3S: Well, let me restate it, and -- and see if I understand what 9  i STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 you're telling me correctly. You're stating that what we are going to do is to allow a munictpality to leapfrog over a park district. Is that correct? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm. SZNATOR KLEMM: No, it'd just be the opposite. PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SBNATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Jacobs. SZNATOR JACOBSI Thank you. I -- I misunderstood the Senator, and 1 thank you for that clarification. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GEO-KARIS) Any -- any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none, Senator Klemm: to close. Senator Klemm, to close. Senator Klemm, to close. SENATOR KLEMM: No. I think I answered al1 the questions, and I was asked some questions here privately that I was tryinq to answer. I think everybody's satisfied. Thank you very much. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GEO-RARIS) The question is: shall House Bill l50 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those who vote -- opposed will vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have a11 voted who wished? Had a11 voted who wished? Had a1l voted who wished? Take the record, Mt. Secretary . On that question, there are 51 voting Yea, l voting Nay, 2 votinq Present. And this bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 206. Senator Cronln. Take it out oj the record. House Bill 207. Senator O'Malley. Out of the record. House Bill 226. SenaEor O'Malley. Out of the record. House Bill 238. Senator Lauzen. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary. Houue Bill 238. ! 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995

House Bill -- House Bill 238. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Lauzen.

What House Bill 238 does is, it eliminates havin: a tax on a tax on utility bills. Under the current law, municipalities that impose a municipal utility tax include the amount of the State utility tax, #n their tax base. What this does is, it phases in, over a three-year period of time, where there cannot be a tax on a tax. I'd be happy to answer any questions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearinq none, Senator Lauzen, to close.

I just request an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) On that question -- the question is, shall House Bill 238 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting's open. Have all voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Mr. Secretary, take the record. On that question, there are 54 voting Aye: none voting No, l voting Present. And this bill, having received the requfred constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bt11 301. Senator Walsh -- I mean: Senator Petka. 1'm Sorry. 301, Eênator peEka? ôu* of the record. House Bill 320. Senator Cullerton. Senator Cullerton, 3207 0uE of the record. House 5ill 330. Senator Watson. Out of the record. House Bill 340. Senator Dillard. Mr. Secretary, read House 3i11 340.

11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 House Bill 340. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dillard.

Thank you, Madam Presidenty Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill amends the Township Code to do two things. First, it permits the coverage of retired officials and their dependents under a township group insurance plan. But want to make it very clear that the burden of this payment falls upon the retiree, and it is very clear in the bill that no tax money shall be used, in any fashion, to fund this type of insurance coverage. The second thing the bill does is, allows a townsbip treasurer to when they publish the annual report of the township - to go with a bracketing system for the publishing of employees' salaries, like other units of local qovernment and school districts. I'd be happy to answer any questions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any iurther discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none, Senator Dillard, to close.

Appreciate a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFJCER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is# shall House Bill 340 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who Wished? Have al1 voted who Wished? Have al1 voted who wlshed? Take the record, Mr. Secretary. On that question, there are 54 voting Aye, none vo*ing Ro, none votlng Present. And this bill, havinq received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House 3i11 377. Senator Parker. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary. 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqislative Day May 21, 2995

House Bill 377. (secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Parker.

Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bank is a -- is -- includes numerous sectlons of the 3anking Act that have been revised. Tt has been requested by the IBA: tbe Corporate Piduciaries, the Commissioner of Banks and Trusts. It also incorporates several bills that passed here unanimously. And I would ask for your iavorable approval, and answer any questions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Palmer.

Thank you, Madam President. A question of the sponsor.

PRSSIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GEO-KARIS) She indicates she will yield, ma'am.

Senator Parker, I -- could you just be a little more specific about this bill? My analysis has to be forty pages long, what with a1l the additions. If you could just explain the bill a little more in depth. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GZO-KARIS) senator Parker.

Thank you. My analysis is as lon: as that also. It actually revises various Acts affecting regulated financial institutions, which have been suggested by the Illinois Bankers Association:  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l# 1995 Commissioner of Banks and Trusts. And it -- okay -- authorizes a bank to exchange -- no We won't go into that. Okay. It makes a sort of housekeepin: amendment. It's requested by the Commissioner oi Banks and Trusts. It repeals requirements that bank directors own specified interest in their bank, and that they take an oath of fealty to the bank. It revises voluntary bank dissolution procedures, and provides for expedited dissolution of a bank, and surrender of its charter where the bank has already transferred substantially all of lts assets and liabilities. Immunizes the banks internal State and federal regulatory compliance review documents from use in civil proceedings. Is that okay? Thank you very much.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none, Senator Parker, to close.

I would ask for a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question lsr shall House Bill 377 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The votingrs open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Take the record: Mr. Secretary. On that bill, there are 54 voting Aye: none voting No, 2 voting Present. This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 385. Senator Maitland . No. Out of the record. House Bill 505. Senator Maitland. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

House Bill 505. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of *he bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 14 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 l I i Senator Maitland. i

Thank you very much, Madam President. House Bi11 505, as j i amended, does actually three things: It provides that in addition to any other person authorized by law, a sheriff may administer the oath oj office to a deputy sheriff; it also has in it an : amendment that was requested by Dupage County , to allow a I referendum question on juvenile detention facilities to combine the two questions of construction and taxation for -- for such -- for such facilities; and it also -- the tax rate, however -- and i I I this is combined by this language to six cents of EAV of all property in the county. Now the tax levy is four for construction and two for EAV. This tax rate shall be reduced by two percent the year following the repayment to construction contractors. This, again, was an amendment that was suqgested by Dupage County. I know oi no opposition and seek your support.

PRBSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, shall House Bill 505 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? On that question, take the record, Mr. Secretary . There are 55 voting Aye, none voting No, none votin: Present. This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bt11 527. Senator DeAngelis. Out of the record. House Bill 544. Senator Mahar. House Bill 662. Senator parker. Senator parker? Out of the record . House Bill 838. Senator Cronin. Out of the record. House Bill 929. Senator Karpiel. Senator Collins, for what purpose do you rise, ma'am? Your light is on, ma'am. Senator Karpiel? Mr. Secrekary, will you read Ehe bill. SECRETARY HARRY: ! 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 House Bill 929. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Karpiel.

Thank you. Madam President. As it stands, House 3i1l 929 is somewhat of a home for two -- two bills, one of which is the exemption for a -- a transfer station in Crestwood, which was built and operating before the -- the setback -- the legislation that provided for setbacks on transfer stations was passed . So this is an exemption for them: so they can continue operating. And the other one is -- amends the Nuclear Safety Preparedness Act. Provides that appropriations to the Illinois Emergency Management Agency for activities association -- associated with preparing and implementinq plans to deal with the effects of nuclear accidents shall not exceed six hundred and twenty-iive thousand in FY'96, seven hundred and twenty-five thousand in FYf97, and seven hundred and seventy-five thousand in FY'98 and thereafter. I'd ask for your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discusslon? Senator Karpiel, to close. On that question -- on that question, shall House Bill 929 pass, those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The votingfs open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? On that question, there are 54 -- 56 voting àye, none voting No, l votinq Present. And this bill, havlnq received tbe rekuired constituEional majority, is hereby declared passed. House -- we had a little problem with our power. House Bll1 955. genator Karpiel. Mr. Secretary: will you -- Senator Karpiel.

16 i  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSBMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 ' I Madam President, may 1 have leave to come back to this later? I Thank you. h i PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENATORGEO-RARIS) 1 Hearing no objection, you have leave. 965. Senator Woodyard. Senator Woodyard? Thank you. Out of the record. 974. Senator Klemm. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

House 3i1l 974. (Secretary reads title of bi11) 3rd Readinq of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm.

Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. House Bill 974 -- the underlyin: bill authorizes the forest preserve district in a county with less than four hundred and one population -- four hundred thousand and one population to sell little parcels of less than one acre by unanimous vote of the board. Those appraisal values and the sale mus: be used for future land acquisition. Also requires the appointment of officers and employees by downstate forest preserve districts to be made by the president with the advise and consent of the board, in cases in which the corporate authority of a county: or municipality, or sanitary district, also serves as the forest preserve district commissioners. It provides that whenever a property tbat is located within a park district also lies within a municipality that has established a recreation board, the property that is being taxed by both entities, the voters could petition to disconnects Ksic>. Theze's a serïes of amendments tbat were l there. One is allowing Kane Counky Forest Preserve District to sell small parcels, which l described to you earlier. We also have provisions that will allow the forest preserve district in j 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 downstate to have long-term leases for any entity that operates a countyfair. AmendmentNo.2alsorequire tbat forest preserve l districts issue a license for the use of property that must be directly related to the purposes for which the forest preserve district was created. And it does require two-thirds vote for the security of that proviston. Amendment No. 3 amends the downstate ! forest preserve district to permit leasing or operation oj 1 i concessions in their property. It grandfathers the existing provisions that have been allowed before, but it says that they can't do it any further. Amendment No. 4 allows park districts to enforce its ordinances upon property which it owns but is With not I -- not within the borders of the district. Tt also -- it also allows park districts' annexations to be filed in the county oifices in which the annexation takes place. And the last amendment to it allows the county board -- no, let's see what it does -- hold on a minute. Allows a local township board of trustees to appoint fire protection districts in Cook County vhere the fire prevention <sic> district lies wholly within that single county, but contains one or more municipalities. And I -- excuse me -- and I ask for your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Trotter.

Thank you very much: Madam President. I just want for the -- the Members here -- excuse me -- for the Members here in the Chamber. Thouqh, basically, this bill is pretty nebulous, on the whole, Amendment No. 6 is a shameless power grab at the County of Cook, in which it takes away some of the power that the present Chairman, John Stroger, has. Though, it does not impact directly, downstate, nor does it impact on the collar counties. What happens is, this is a precedent, and what we do today can certainly be -- probably be done tomorrow in your district. And I 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 ask all Members to vote No, and if it should pass, ask for verification of the roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Thank you, Senator Trotter. Further discussion? Senator Woodyard.

Thank youv Madam President, Members of the Senate. Senator, it's -- the one thing that I'm concerned with, evidently: is Amendment 6. lt seems -- and I apoloqize, Senator Parker, that I'm not sure that that was attached on 2nd Reading, or where it was, but I've been told, the fire districts in Illinois are opposed to Amendment 6. And it seems that youlre taking the control from a county board to a township boardy is that correct? It deals with the appointment of the fire district trustees. And althouqh our analysis says, lThis applies only to Cook County'', I'm not so sure that -- that it does. And in downstate Illinois, we have elective or -- or, fire district trustees, as well as appointed. And , traditionally, that authorization on appointment has been within the purview of the county board. And guess, what I'm saying, does that -- does that change what we're doing with downstate fire district trustees?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm.

No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Woodyard? Further discussion? Senator Parker.

Thank you, Madam President. I just Wanted to clarify, we had this discussion on Priday. This does not affect any other county but Cook. This is only for about eight or ten townships. This is not any power grab. Thîs seems to make sense. We have not been 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 able to correct this before; where, actually, in a township where the township fire district is located within one township, the local township people support and they are the ones that appoint the iire district people on the board, but if you have a fire district tbat may have even five percent of some other township, a1l of a sudden that appointment power is taken down to the Cook County Board President. It just doesn't make sense. We should leave it at that local level. And that's all wefre tryinq to do. These are unpaid. They are, you know, not patronage workers. They are just local. So I wanted to clarify that it has nothinq to do with downstate. lt is only for Cook County and it only affects eight to ten townships. And it's because Cook County is different, because we have so many townships in it. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SSNATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further dlscussion? Senator Rauschenberqer.

Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I just rise to point out for those Members who don't live in Cook County, as î do, that Cook County's population is about 5.3 million people. Nearly half the State of Illinois live in Cook County. The house I live in is more than an hour's drive from the Cook County Building at sixty-five miles an hour. It's a very, very large county. Granting this discretion to townships to -- to appoint fire district trustees makes sense where I live, and that's why this legislation is written for Cook County only. It's very ditficult for a for a board sitting in downtown Chicago to understand the needs We have in the outlying parts of the suburbs. So, 1 Would request a tavorable roll call and support this blll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Viverito.

One for clarification, Madam President. 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 ! PRESIDING OFF I ICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I Point of clarification . SENATORVIVERITO: 1 In -- in the event there our areas - and maybe I didnft make myself quite clear, the last time - that have an elected fire district in a township, what are you going to do in that case?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm.

It doesn't affect elected. It wouldn't...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Klemm, would you...

It would not affect those positions and it Would continue the way it is.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Purther discussion? Senator Hendon.

Thank you' Madam President. To the bill: While I support the bill as written, I still have a problem with Amendment No. 6: and because of that 1'11 -- 1111 have to vote No. Even though the president is making these appointments, he does not make them without input from the commissioners from your area. So those Senators who are far away from the county building, you still have a commissioner duly elected, who -- who represents you, who works with the president of the county board. And I simply could not stand here and vote ior anything that would dilute the power of my great friend, John Stroger.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none, Senator Klemm, to close. SENATOR KLEMM: ! 1 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 No. I just ask for your support. think we tried to cover a11 the points that everybody asked for, and try to maintain the integrity that we all would want. So : ask for your support. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is, shall House 5ill 974 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the the record. On that question, there are 33 voting Aye: 24 voting Nay, none voting Present. This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. T believe Senator Trotter -- are you askinq for a verification? Senator Senator Trotter has requested a verification of House Bill 9741s vote. Will all Senators be in their seat. The Secretary wi1l read the afiirmative votes.

The following voted in the affirmative: Barkhausen, Burzynski, Butler, DeAngelis, DeLeo, Donahue, Dudycz, Ralph Dunn, Fawell, Fitzgerald, Geo-Karis, Hasara, Hawkinson, Karpiel, Klemm, Lauzen# Madigany Mahar, Maitland, O'Malley, Parker, Peterson, Petka, Raica, Rauschenberger, Sieben, Syverson, Walsh, Watson, Weaver, Woodyard and Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Does Senator Trotter question the presence of any Member voting in the affirmative?

Senator Cronin. I'm sorry, she's <sic> not on...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Cronin - be didn't vote.

I'm sorry , see her now. Senator Barkhausen.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Barkhausen? Senator Barkhausen here? Senator 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 64th Leglslatlve Day May 2l, 1995 Barkhausen here? Strtke his name.

Senator DeLeo.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GBO-KARIS) Senator DeLeo? Senator DeLeo here? Senator DeLeo? Strike his name. Any further? Any furthet? Senator Trotter, is that it?

No. That's -- thank you very much p Madam.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) On that question, there -- on a verified roll call, the Ayes are 31, the Nays are 24, none voting Present. This bill, having received tbe required constitutional majority, is hereby passed. Committee Reports. Mr. Secretary.

Senator Weaver, Chalr of the Committee on Rules, reports the following Legislation Measures have been assigned to committees: referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Conservation - motion to concur with House Amendment to Senate Bill 623: to the Committee on Education - motions to concur with House Amendments l and 8 to Senate Bill 50, House Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 165, House Amendment 3 to Senate Bill 365 and House Amendment l to Senate Bill 1005) to the Committee on Bxecutive - Senate Amendment to House Bill 90, Amendment l to House 3i11 320 and Amendment 1 to House Bill 24297 to the Committee on Higher Education - Senate Amendmen: 2 to House 9il1 8202 to the Committee on Insurance, Penoions and Licensed Activities - motions to concur with House Amendment l to Senate Bill 114, Amendment l to Eenate Bill :31 and Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 1142: to the Committee on Judiciary Senate Amendment l to House Bill 1248) to the CommitEee on Local Government and Election -- Elections - the motion to concur with House Amendment l to Senate Bill 63, Amendment l to Senate Bill 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 77, Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 158, and Amendment l to Senate Bill 9487 to the Committee on Public Hea1th and Welfare - Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 2226 and Amendment 4 to House Bill 2330) to the Committee on Revenue - Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 1523) Be Approved for Consideration - Senate Amendment to House Bill 41, Amendment l to House Bill 206, Amendment to House Bill 999, Amendment 3 to House Bill 1089: Amendment 2 to House Bill 1246, Amendment 5 to House Bill 1268, Amendment 2 to House Bill 1279, Amendment 1 to House Bill 1303, Amendment 3 to House Bill 1462, Amendment to House Bill 1654 and Amendment 8 to House Bill 21087 and a Sponsorship Change Approved Pursuant to Rule 5 - l(c) - House 3ill 1023, Senator Fitzgerald, the new sponspr.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) We'11 resume 3rd Reading, and we'll start on page 6. House Bill 999. Senator Cronin. Out of the record. House Bill 1069. Senator Petka. Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

House Bill 1069. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Petka.

Thank you, Madam President, Members of the Senate. House Bill 1069, as amended, first of all, rewrites the definition of sexual penetration. Tn addition to that, Senate Bill 145 was amended , Which makes the statute of limitations consistent for sexual offenses commikted aoalnst chlldren, and also makes a change to thê Code of Civil Procedure, to provide fcr a congistgn: BtaEutê of limitations of twelve years. It's Nupported by the Coalition Agalnst Sexual Assault. I'm not aware of any opposition. And I would urge its adoption. 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day Maï 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none, the question is, shall House Bill 1069 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting's open. Have a11 voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Madam Secretary, take the record. On tbat question, tbere are 56 hyes, l voting Nay, none voting Present. And tbis bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1116. Senator Dillard. Read the billy Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1116. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dillard.

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill comes to us as an agreement between title companies and mechanical contractors, and it provides that or permits a court to order payment of reasonable attorney's fees from an owner or a lien claimant who fails to pay a lien claimant or owner withouE just cause or right. And 1'd be happy to answer any questions. know of no opposition and this is a worked-out btkl between the mechenical contractors and the title companies.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? The question is, shall House Bill 1116 pass. Those ln favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 52 Ayes, none voting No, voting 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Present. This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1202. Senator Woodyard. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. 1202. ACTING SECRETARY HAWXER) House Bill 1202. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of Ehe bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Woodyard.

Thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. Iêm really sorry that Gary Lapaille is no longer with us in the Senate, because he normally commented on my jackets. And so if somebody over there wants to do that, fine. Really, House Bill 1202, as you well knok, is -- is a -- a bill dealing with trucks? and it delineates the -- the measurements between the kinspin and the rear axle of these trucks. There's no extension of the -- of the overall length of the semitrailer, but it would allow that measurement, either from the front axle or from the kingpin to the front axle, to be extended by three feet. Now, there has been a - - a -- a plethora of -- of people who seem to indicate that this is somehow indicating or -- or, increasing in a hazard of safety. Well, the State Police don't seem to feel that way, nor do the Department of Transportation, who are both neutral on that. There is a very strong opponent group against this bill, the Dupage County Mayors Association. I will tell you that the the Dupage Highway Commissioner has no problem with this bill, does not feel that it would impact on -- on safety of -- of the roads. Other than that, ; don't know of any other opposition to this. does kind of put us in in compliance or context with what the federal 1aw is doing and most a1l of our sister states do allow this kind of axle-spacinq. And with that, Madam President, IId be 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SBNATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 glad to answer any questions, or seek a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Jacobs.

just wanted to point out that I concur with Senator Woodyard. We had this at length in Transportation Committee. Really al1 we're talkin: about is relocation of the axles, which alloks the weight to be distributed more evenly, and most people involved in trucking are in favor of that, and I think it's a good Aye vote. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. have asked the Dupage Mayors and Managers to come up with a transportation committee, and they dtd. And when I asked them who was on this committee, it turned out tt was a number of policemen, and a -- and an attorney. So when I called up the county highway road commissioner and asked him if, indeed or, the county engineer - if, indeed, this, he thought, would cause any problems, he said, lThose krucks are running a11 over Dupage County now'' and, no, he did not think it was a problem. What I plan on doing is going back and telling the Dupage Mayors and Managers maybe they ought to reconstitute their committee. And I would suggest an Aye vote.

PRBSIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Purther discussion? Senator Karpiel.

Thank you, Madam President. Well, stand in opposition to all my good friends, who are supportin: this, and the trucktnq industry. I have a question that I would like to ask the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates that he will yield. 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leglslatlve Day May 2l, 1995 SENATOR KARPIEL) And it was somethin: that Senator Fawell said also. Are these trucks now on the highway? I see these trucks on the highway . What is this bill doing differently then? You know, what's the difference between this bill and allowin: them now on our hiqhways, because obviously they are there?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XARIS) Senator Woodyard .

Oops. Senator Karpiel, guess I'm going to ask you, are these trucks on the highway? Vou're darn riqht they are. They've got sliding rear axles on most of those semitrailers. ls the 1aw being enforced? No, it's not, because when when those trucks come out of Missouri, Iowa, Kentucky, Indiana, on khe weight distribution, you normally find that lonqer axle spread. So tt's there now. And, guess what I'm trying to do is codify what other states are doing; what is presently being done today.

PRESIDING OFFICDR: (SENATOR GEO-XARIS) Further discussion? Senator Donahue. Senator Donahue. Oh. 1'm sorry. Would you respond. That isn't coming from here all that noise - but it's coming. Go ahead, Senator Karpiel.

Thank you. PRESIDING OFFTCDRI (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) It announces that yourre coming. Senator Karpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL) Thank you, Madam President. Senator Woodyard, then this bill is -- doesn't do anything. mean, right noW, they are not really supposed to be on our highways. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICZR: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Woodyard.

28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 That is correct.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Karpiel.

Well, Will this -- will this legislation allow them on any other roads, other than the -- the highways and tollways? Would this allow them on the small county roads, or are they already there, too?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Woodyard.

Senator, no, it will not allow them on all highways. There there is a five-mile access, but -- but, by and large, those are to terminals, and things like that and it would not allow them on county roads or township roads at all.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Karpiel.

Well, just -- 1 would like to just say, I'm not standing here at the request of the Dupage Mayors and Manaqers, but my own concerns. Last year we passed a bill whicb would allow these trucks, these huge, longer trucks, heavier trucks, on -- five miles off of the highway - was that it? somethlng like that?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Woodyard.

And everyone told us -- l mean, I was told that that was not going to infringe upon the municipalities. They could they could post a sign, saytng they weren't allowed and that type of thing. I went home and I got a lot of heat from my municipalities that now have these huge trucks driving down their municipal streets, breaking them up pretty good. The problem with this 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS ' 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Dag May 2l, 1995 bill, these kin6s of trucks, is not the length, and they are correct. It is not going to make the length longer. What it does is increasing -- it increases the turning radius of the trucks. And I don't know about you guys, but l've almost gotten -- you know, bashed my car in, when I'm waiting at a red light and one of these comes the other way and makes a turn. because it takes them two lanes to turn. And if it's only a two-lane road and you're waiting there in the one lane, I :ot to tell you that these trucks don 't belong on some of these roads. llve asked the Department of Transportation for a impact note. and they say there are approximately two hundred intersections in the State khat have geometrics which are inadequate for longer dimension vehicles - for these vehicles. And it would cost approximately fifty thousand dollars per intersection to lmprove, which equates to ten million dollars estimated system impact. I would urge a No vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator O'Daniel. SBNATOR O'DANIEL: Thank you, Madam President, Members of the Senate. This -- this legislation doesn't change any weight limit at all. Al1 this does is, helps comply with the federal bridge law that was passed some years aqo. When they -- when they passed the federal brldge law and allowed trucks to haul eighty thousand pounds, in this State, they raised the license fee from eighteen hundred dollars to twenty-two hundred dollars. All they do with this is -- is they can stretch out there truck just a little bit. And if you drive down the hishway, anytime you're passing a truck, just take a look under that truck and yourll see the rear axle. They have about a six-foot perforated hose, where they can shift those axles back and forth: and it lets them -- that way they can get into compliance with the weiqht, you can only carry so much weight on each set of these axles. It doesn't change anythinq -- any weight i 30 ! I I I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENBRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SCNATE TRANSCRIPT I I 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 limit at a. 11; lt just lets them -- it makes it easier for them to get into compliance and -- with the federal bridge law. And if any driver isn't capable of making a turn, then he doesn't need to have the CDL license. There's no problem at a1l with -- with this. leqislation; it -- it just helps them get into compliance a little better. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Thank you. Senator Walsh. Further discussion? SENATOR WALSH: Yeah. Thank you. Madam President, Members of the Senate. 14 too, stand in opposition. 1 -- 1'd like to ask a question, if 1 may. PRESIDING OFFICBR: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The sponsor indicates helll yield. SENATOR WALSH: Senator, can -- can you tell me, what -- what hiqhways these trucks would -- would be able to drive on that they may not drive on now? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GCO-KARIS) Senator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD; Yes, Senator. This would authorize - which they're doing today - the Class lls, and certainly -- I believe the Class Is - which already - that's the interstates - Which already have -- have thls kind of compliance. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) senator Walsh . SENATOR WALSH: But it's not limlted to Ehe interGtates, they'd be able to drive on like Route 45, Mannheim Road, Cicero Avenue, Irvlng Park Road, North Avenue, a1l of -- in these urban areas? PRESTDING OPPICERI (SBHATOR GEQ-KARIS) ! I 31 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Senator Woodyard.

They would be able to drive on two-lane State routes, as well as the interstates.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Walsh.

Well, 1 just -- J stand in opposition, and 1 think that anybody who lives in an urban area who has heard from their constituents that have complained about truck traffic, should beware of this bill, because this is what they're against. They 're -- this is going to add to the traffic on the -- on the highways, in the urban areas, particularly the Mannheim Roads, the North Avenues, the Cicero Avenues, and I donft think that -- that this is a good idea at this time. Until we can come up With something that would encouraqe the truck drivers to use the tollways and -- and expressways, 1 don't think we should be supportln: this type of legislation. And I urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Madam President, Members ol the Senate. I wasn't qoing to speak on this bill. I -- I vill say to the Body, up front, that I have a potential conflict of interest here. But 1 cannot believe some of the comments that 1'm hearing about a bill. This is probably the most misunderstood bill of the Session. I think Senator O'Daniel and Senator Woodyard and others have done their best to explain what the bill does. Let me say to you *hat I almost resent the Department of Transportation putting down a figure like that. Senator O'Daniel, youere -- youpre absolutely right; these trucks, the drivers have all the talent and the ability necessary. It -- if they can't make those turns ' 32 t  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 with the configuration khat we're talking about here, they sure as heck can't make it under the existing law. There's no way in heck they can. There's no question that there are some difficult turns to make. But stop and think what yourre saying here. You're talking about truckers that are cominq in off the road with merchandise that's being delivered to every community in this State. And those truckers are havinq it -- finding it more ahd more difficult to make a profit anyway. And they can traverse the other roads, this length and this weight, and they have to deliver sometimes to your communities. The very people that are opposing this bill are getting commodities and goods on trucks now that are allowed to traverse these roads. This isn't qoing to damaqe anything, and the bill ouqht to be supported.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Woodyard, to close.

Thank you, Madam President. And to my suburban colleagues, I don't think this is going to affect you, other than the fact you may have some trucks not bringing Post Toasties and corn flakes and bread to you if this thinq doesn't pass. I think Senator O'Daniel probably did a better job in closing than what did. What we're tryinq to do is be in compliance with what is known as a truck bridge formula. Has nothing whatsoever to do with bridges. But has to do with the spread of the load over the axle spacing. And a1l we're tryinq to do is be in compliance wiEh what other states are doing. Nobody has ever told us that this is a safety hazard. Why on earth would the State Police and Department of Transportation, if khere were any safety problems why would the Dupage Highway Commissioner - not be opposed to this bill, it were a safety hazard? It is not. And, Madam President, certainly solicit a favorable roll call. 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) On that question -- the question is, shall House Bill 1202 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The votin: is open. Have all voted Who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Madam Secretary, take the record. On that question, Ehere are 40 Ayes, 16 votlng Nay, none voting Present. And this bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1212. Senator Peterson. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1212. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Peterson.

Thank you, Madam Presldent. House Bill 1212, tbe bill itself, dtrects the Illinois Department of Revenue to acknowledge a11 taxpayer lnqulries regardin: income tax refunds within ten days of receipt of the inquiry , by sending a response to the taxpayer with the following informationt the date the inquiry was received, the file number assigned to the inquiry, and the name and the telephone number of a person witbin the Department of Revenue that the taxpayer may contact for further information. This bill has several amendments, and one amendment was' to address a multi-assessment dlstrict problem in Bond County. The language clarifies that, only for purposes of Section 2-10 oj the Property Tax Code, a township shall be considered contiguous if one corner of a township touches the corner of another township in a multi-assessment district. Anokher amendment conkains the final agreement between the Illinois Manutacturers' Association and the Department of Revenue, regarding application of the manufacturer's 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSJON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 purchase credit. has several income tax checkoffs, one for Special Olympics, one for Mental Health Research Fund . It also has a provision that clarify that if TIF districts dissolve, the entire increment shall be treated as new property. Another checkoff for the Children's Cancer Fund, sponsored by Senator Carroll. Another amendment sponsored by Senator Jones, checkoff for drug abuse prevention. Amendment by Senator Klemm, amending the Illinois Enterprise Zone Act to change the sales tax credit for the purchase of building materials that will be incorporated into a High Impact Business, to an up-front exemption. Amendment 12 clarifies Amendment It's a technical provision. I ask for your affirmative vote on House Bill 1212, as amended.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Sieben.

Thank you: Madam President. Will the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates that he will.

Senator Peterson, did have several calls, the end of last week, on two of the amendments that, one time that were proposed on this billy from people in the tourism industry and 10. Can you tell us the statuses of Amendment No. 6 and Amendment l0?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Peterson.

Those amendments were tabled.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Welch.

had a question of the sponsor. 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION 1 SVNATE TRANSCRIPT I 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates he'll yield.

Senator Peterson, I think you mentioned three checkoffs in this. lf these are approved, how many checkoffs will we have on the income tax return for the coming year? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I Senator Peterson. SENATOR PETERSON : ! There are three or four on this bill. 1 don't know how many others are on legislation, and 1 don't know if they'll gek to the Governor's desk. And I have no idea how many they can put on the income tax form.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Welch .

Well, that's about three of the other questions I had, so... You said there was an agreement between the Manufacturers Association on -- on a tax and I didn't understand. What was the agreement?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Peterson.

Let me look through my file, Senator.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Peterson. Senator peterson.

It contains the final agreement between the Illinois Manufacturers' Association and the Department of Revenue regarding applicatlon of the manufacturer's purcbase credit.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Welch . 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 SENATOR PETERSON : I It's supported by the State Chamber, IMA, Taxpayersl ! Federation of Illinois, Caterpillary Department of Revenue. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARTS) 1 Senator Welch.

Do you have a fiscal note, signed by somebody from the Senate or directly signed by the Department, on that?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Peterson.

I -- I can come up with one real quickly, Senator: if you need One .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Peterson, to close? Senator Peterson, to close. SENATOR PETERSONI Ask for an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is, shall House Bill 1212 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Take the record, Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 55 voting Aye, l voting Nay, 1 -- none voting Present. And this bill, havin: received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1246. Senator Karpiel, did you wish this bill to be returned to 2nd Reading? Senator Karpiel seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 1246 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading -- on the Order of 2nd Readlng is House Bill 1246. 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSBMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Madam Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for conslderation?

Amendment No. 2, offered by Senator Karpiel.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Karpiel.

Thank you, Madam President. Amendment 2 actually takes out the entire Section dealing with the criminal trespass that was not worked out, and we were runninq into problems with groups having you know, finding other problems with it, so we're taking that entire language out and just leaving two very .little noncontroversial pieces in the...

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) All right. Any discussion? Any discussion? Any discussion? Hearinq none , all those in favor, say Aye -- of this amendment. A1l opposed, Nay. The Ayes, in the opinion of the Chair, have and this amendment is adopted. Are there any further Floor amendments approved for consideration, Madam Secretary?

No further amendments reported.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. Senator Jacobs.

I'm sorry, Madam President. just wanted to to make a comment earlier. know...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Is that a personal privilege?

Yes. Point of personal privilege: ij you will.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your point, sir. 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSBMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqiskative Day May 2l, 1995

Senator Woodyard got up earlier and mentioned that Gary Lapaille wasn't here to say anything about his jacket. So, in our row here, we -- we did take a vote, and the unanimous choice over here for this jacket was Spike Jones. So I just wanted to make you aware of that, Senator.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Spike Jones, Senator Woodyard, has been referred to you. Any - - Senator Molaro, for what purpose do you rise?

Yes. On a point of personal privilege.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your point, sir. SENATOR MOLAROJ Somehow last Friday, I -- I thought voted Yes on a bill. lt's 1967. 1'm recorded as No, but I would like the record to reflect that I would -- that somehow it waS a mistake, and I intended on voting Yes on House Bill 1967. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATON GEO-KARIS) Your intention will be noted . Senator Trotter, for what purpose do you wish to speak?

Yes. Will the sponsor yield on this bill, please?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) We haven't read the bill get.

... called it. Okay.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) House Bill 1248. Senator Hawkinson. 0ut of the record. House 3i11 1268. Did you wish this bill to be returnea to the Order of 2nd Reading. Senator Hawkinson? That's 1268. Is that correct? Senator Hawkinson seeks leave of the Body to return 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 House Bill 1268 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is qranted. On the Order of 2nd Reading in House Bill 1268. Madam Secretary, have there been any amendments from Ehe Floor for consideration?

Amendment No. B, offered by Senator Cullerton.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Cullerton, on Amendment No. 5 to House Bill 1268.

Yes. Thank you, Madam Presidentr Members of the Senate. This amendment either adds or subtracts a comma. I can't remember which. Subtracts a comma. Takes a comma out of a definition that was inadvertently put in the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Hearin: none, all those in favor, say Aye. A1l those opposed, say Nay. In the opinion of the Chair: the Ayes have it and the amendment is adopted. Are there any further Floor amendments for consideration?

No further amendments reported , Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. House Bill 1270. Senator Butler. Madam Secretary, read the bill. 1270. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER) House Bill 1270. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICZR; (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

Thank you very much, Madam President. Ladies and Gentlemen, House Bill 1270, as amended? establishes at -- in DASA a program 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 on compulsive gambling, in order to create an awareness of the problem. It -- it establishes a hot line number. It provides for some in-service training so the problem can be recognized. lt also requires certain siqns to be posted in -- in certain locations, such as racetracks, riverboats, bingo parlors, et cetera. It was amended in the House to provide that DASA may also contract with a -- either a private or a public entity on such a program . And finally, it deleted a rather unworkable provision which would have required riverboat owners to put stickers on every gaming machine on the boat. So, with that, 1 think we've removed the opposition. 1'd appreciate your favorable vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Shaw. SENATOR SHAW: Will the sponsor yield? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates he will. SENATOR SHAW: Senator Butler, who will pay for this program? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler. SENATOR BUTLER: DASA, at the moment, has funds. And it requires DASA to take a hakf a Rilklon dollars of the -- of the funds they have an6 devote it to this program. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Shaw. SENATOR SHAW: I -- 1 just want to commend you on the -- on the bill. 1 think it's a good bill, and it's a step in the right direction. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I 41 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMSLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Further discussion? Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSONI Yes. Thank you, Madam President. Couple of questions of the sponsor, if he'll yield.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates he will yield. SENATOR WATSONI I guess this would be called the gambling-can-be-hazardous-to-your-hea1th bill. Wefre going to be posting signs now in places of -- gamblin: takes place. Does this include your local market and local 7-Eleven, and wherever they may buy a lottery ticket?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

I presume the question concerns the lottery sales? It does. There's an eight -- eiqht and a half by eleven sign. One sentence -- requires it to be no longer than one sentence.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator -- Senator Watson.

What's that one sentence?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

DASA is to establish that by rule.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

ïes. Thank you. We're being criticized by the media, or others, abouE not establishing this 1'800'' phone number for people who are having gambling problems. lsn't that already lawp and 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GBNERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 shouldn't that already be -- why are we doing it again? I PRESIDING OFFICER I I (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

1 would -- I would presume, Senator, that it'd have to be included in -- in an Act on compulsive gamblinq. As you know, they do have one now on -- on alcoholis, and substance abuse.

PRESIDING OFFICCR: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator del Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Well, thank you, Madam President. A question for the sponsor.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He lndicates he will yield. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Senator Butler, didn't the riverboat legislation include a -- a requirement that a program for compulsive gamblers be established and didn't that also include a fundin: mechanism for that?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

1'm sorry, Senator, 1'm just not aware of that.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator de1 Valle. SEHATOR dSL VALLE: Well, I -- I thought that there was that requirement, and I think Senator Watson alluded to it. But 1 am going to vote for this bill. I just want to make sure that we don't do the same thing aqainr because this bill says that the program is subject to appropriation through DASA. So 1'm afraid that, once again: we're going to say that we're :otn: to establish a proqram for compulsive vamblers, and tben fail to follow up and fail to -- to I 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 fund it. So, I hope that doesn't happen again.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Thomas Dunn.

Thank you, Madam President. A question for the sponsor.

PRCSJDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates he will yield.

Senator Butler, obviously there are compulsive gamblers. Do you have a number for us on the number of compulsive gamblers?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

There are no estimates.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dunn.

What are we basing the appropriation on?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

There is no appropriation at the moment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dunn.

Does this merely establish a program, then weAre going to work out the details later?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

If -- correct, there's funding available.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 64th Leqlslative Day May 2l, 1995 Eurtber dtscusslon? Senator Bowles.

Thank you, Madam President. Would the sponsor yield?

PRDSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates that he will.

So that it is really clear that even in church bingos: or the VFW, or any of those places where they might be playing bingo, that they Would have to post a sign?

PRCSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Butler.

Yes. PR:SIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Hendon.

Thank you, Madam President. To the bill, and for those who asked the questions about fundinq: Last year the Appropriations Committee, under the leadership of our very able chairman, Chairman Maitland , put four hundred thousand dollars in for a compulsîve gambltng program. but the -- the -- the money was given to the Gaming Board, and they refused to spend it. So, what this is a wonderful piece of legislation, something that I join my esteemed colleagues, Senator Butler and Senator Fawell, as cosponsor on, and is my intention to attempt to get, at least that four hundred thousand that was not spent last year. that we did appropriate to the Gaming Board, to be given to DASA, which is probably more appropriate for this type of a proqram. So I ask people to vote ior this. There are a number of people who simply cannot stop gambling at all. And I am not against gambling; I gamble myself; but this is ior people who lose tbe house , the home , the car, the wife, the kids, and everything to to 45  STATE OF ILLTNOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 gambling, and we simply should give them some kind of help, and I ask you for an Aye vote. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Please, Ladies and Gentlemen, a little more quiet. Senator Burzynski. Further discussion?

Thank you, Madam President. Just a comment. 1 would urge an Aye vote on this bill, as well. I also urge al1 my colleagues to be sure and remember this vote When they have future votes regarding expansion of off-track betting parlors, and other riverboats, and things like that in the State. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Butler, to close.

Just one comment. want to correct 1 misspoke. The half a million dollars, I referred to, was in the bill that we passed last year. This bill is subject to appropriation. And I and I ask your favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is, shall House Bill 1270 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Madam Secretary, take the record. On that question, there are 52 voting Aye, l voting Nay, 3 voting Present. And this bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. END OF TAPE TAPE 2 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SBNATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 : I :

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XARIS) I ' House Bill 1279. Senator Rauschenberger. Is he there? I Senator Rauschenberger, did you wish to recall this bill to 2nd j I Reading? Senator Rauschenberqer seeks leave of the Body to return I i House Bill 1279 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an j ' amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 1279. Madam Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved ior consideration? ACTING SECRETARV HAWKER) Amendment No. 2, offered by Senator Rauschenberger.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Rauschenberqer, on Amendment No. 2.

This amendment adds a -- an effective date to an otherwise 1 shell bi11 that we1ve got positioned in case We need statutory change for the close of Session. 1 would urge its adoption. 1

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator 1 ' Severns. Senator severns. SENATOR sEvEnNs: j Thank you, Madam President. 1 just realized it's on 2nd. I 1 was just wondering if this could ultimately contain the prompt pay I provision, but since it's on 2nd, excuse me and 1:11 wait till 3rd.

PRESIDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? All those in favor, please signify by saying Aye. Those opposed, Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it# and the amendment is hereby adopted. Any further Floor amendments for conslderation? ACTING SECNDTARY HAWKERI No further amendments reported, Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqistative Day May 2l, 1995 3rd Reading. House Bill 1303. Senator Lauzen, are you askin: this bill to be -- House Bill 1303. Senator Lauzen. Would you read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1303. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Lauzen.

Thank you, Madam President. This legislation from the Chicaqo Bar Association amends the Property Tax Code. Does five things, amon: those are: lt requires that appointees to a township or multi-township assessor position must be of the same political party as the person vacating the office. Number two, provides that any money in the county treasurer's fund from certificate of purchase fees, in excess of five hundred thousand dollars, must be paid to the general fund of the county after satisfying any existing unpaid judgments entered pursuant to Section 21-295, and several other provisions. I am not aware of any opposition. Be happy to answer any questions I can.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator Walsh.

Thank you, Madam President. W(ll Ehe sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates he will yield?

Senator, does thls apply to Cook County?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Lauzen. Senator Lauzen, the question is, Whether it 48 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 applies to Cook County. SENATOR LAUZEN: I I I belleve that it does. I I I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Walsh. SENATOR WALSH: Now, the appointment -- or the filling of a vacancy, what do you do in the situation where it was a nonpartisan election? PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XARIS) Senator Lauzen. Senator Lauzen. SENATOR LAUZEN : I don't know the answer to that question. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I Senator Walsh. Anything further, Senator Walsh? SBNATOR WALSHI Well, I was just curious, because tn -- I know in -- in Cook County, most of the township elections are nonpartisan, I think, with the exception of maybe two or three townships. And I -- I'm -- I'm just curious because this -- this would affect -- this would affect our area. I -- I would have a couple of other problems wlth the local assessors too, as far as I would maybe be more willing to see an amendment to abolish the office, which is a duplicative office. because the assessor can't -- by 1aw -- the I townshtpassessorcan't,by law.assess,inasmuchas it'sdone by 1 I the Cook County assessor. So, maybe we could just leave the vacancy, if there is a -- should be one. !'d be more in favor oj that. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I I Any -- any further discusslon? Any further discussion? Any I I I further discussion? Senator Lauzen, to close. I I SENATOR LAUZEN: I 1 I would just ask for an Aye vote. I I 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SDNATE TNANSCRIPT 54th Legiskative Day May 2l, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is, shall House 5111 1303 pass. Those in favor: vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting's open. Have all voted who wished? Have a11 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wlshed? Madam Secretary, take the record. On that question, there are 52 voting Aye, none votin: No, and voting Present. This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. House 9ill 1461. Senator Mahar. House Bill 1462. Senator Parker. Madam Secretary, read the bill. Are you seeking to -- leave of the Body to return this bill to 2nd Reading? Hearing no objection, leave is granted for Senator Parker to return this bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 1462. Madam Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration? ACTING SECRETARY HAWEERJ Amendment No. 3, offered by Senator parker.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Parker.

Thank you, Madam President. This amendment simply is a bill that we passed out of here, eventually, with no opposition. It allows counties to have the option, if they chose, of flexibility in the use of their motor fuel tax. The bill's gotten hung up in the House, and now I would like to amend it onto this bill. This passea...tmicropbone cukoffl.-.Transportation Committee.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senator parker asks that this amendment be approved. All those in favor oj the approval of this amendment, in the adoption of it, signify by sayinq Aye. All opposed, No. ln the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Is there any further 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legistattve Day May 2à, 1995 amendment approved for consideration from the Floor?

No further amendments reported, Madam President.

PRBSIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. House Bill 1465. Senator OfMalley. Senator O'Malley? House 3ill 14657 House Bill 1470. Senator Cronin? House Bill 1523. Senator Lauzen? House Bill 1587. Senator Fawell? Senator Fawell? House 3ill 1608. Senator Dillard? Out of the record, for both of those. House Bill 1730. Senator Palmer. 0ut of the record. House Bill 1787. Senator Walsh. 0ut of the record. Senate <sic> Dill 1792. Senator Cronin. Out of the record. Senate <sic> Bill 1797. Senator Rauschenberger. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1797. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Rauschenberger, on 1797. Can we have your attention, please?

Thank you: Madam Presldent, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. House Bill 1797 is a result of several months oi work and neqotiation with employer groups, labor groups, and the Human Rights Commission. changes provisions of the Commission's rulesp so that they can be more expeditious in the way they handle hearings. Allows for immediate and direct appeal, in some cases, for members in in the process. And basically, is an overall cleanup to help the Human Rights Commission. passed out of the House by a vote of ninety-five to seveny and was on the Aqreed Bill List in the Judiciary Commission -- Committee. I would move its favorable...tmachine cutoffl... 51  STATE OF ILLINOïS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 . I ' I PRESIDING OPFICBRI (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) I Any jurther dlscussion? Any further discusston? Any further discussion? Hearing none, the question 1s, shall House Bill 1797 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Naym The voting's open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? Have a1l voted who wished? Madam Secretary, take the roll. On this caGe -- on this bill, there are 57 voting Aye, none voting No, none votinq Present. This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1853. Senator Dillard? Out of the record. Senate 3ill 1900. Senator Philip. Out of the record. 1 mean, House Bill, I'm sorry. They're both House billG. House Bill 2226. Senator Cronin. Out of the record. House Bill 2330. Senator Parker. Out of the record. Rouse sill 2338. Senator Cronin. Out of the record. Senate 3ill 2370. Senator Barkhausen. Out of the record. House Bill, I'm sorry -- House Bill 2370. House Bill 2403. Senator Rauschenberger? Out of the record. House Bill 2429. Senator Rauschenberger? Senator Rauschenberqer? Out of the record. House Bill 2465. Senator Watson. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKERI House Bill 2465. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XARJS) Senator Watson. 2465. Senator Watson.

. . .ma 'am . Yes. Thank you, Madam President. House Bill 2465 establishes the Welfare Reform Task Force. As you know, We passed the legislation earlier this Session dealin: with welfare reform, and in there we had a provisëon that sunsetG the Aid to Family with Dependent Children Program on -- on January the 1st, 1999. ! 52  STATE OF ILLINOTS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 51th Leqtslative Day May 2l, 1995 This task force will be put together and -- and asked to participate in coming up with language to replace the AFDC Program as we now know it. It's a nine-member task force. Would be appointed by the Presidentp Speak of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Minority Leader: six members, and then three members appointed by the Governor. One being the Director of the Department of Public Aid, or his designee, and then two from the private sector. We would ask that the task force make a recommendations to the General Assembly, and then we would repeal the task force on January 1st, 1999. I1d be glad to answer any questions. Otherwise, appreciate your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Smith.

Thank you, Madam Chairman, and to the -- may I ask the sponsor a questlon, please?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indicates he will yield.

Last -- last week asked you: what is it that the -- this task force can do that the committee on welfare cannot do? And not, can -- is -- can it not be arranged that the welfare committee could perform khe same duties that you are going to organize a -- a new task force? Werre talking about we're hard up ior money, you canft do this -- you can't this -- and -- and now you're qoinq to organize a new task force, and youlre going to put more people on payroll. What is it that -- what is it so intense about that particular task force? Thato..tmachine cutoffl...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson. Senator Smith.

53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 , : Please. I I I PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) ! ' I j Senator Smith. ! SENATOR SMITH I ... with the -- with the Welfare committee of the Senate? We -- we could reinstate the one that we had already.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

Well. we -- we establish task forces a1l the time, and ask for public input. We will have two members from the private sector that would be appointed by the Governor. We will have the expertise of the Departaent of Public Aid's Director or -- or his or her designee. The Speaker of the House will have an opportuntty to appoint a private sector member and then the -- so will the President of the Senate. Those -- having that type of individuals involved in the process and in the task force, I think is important. Obviously, the interest that would be shown by the members of the task force is also important. And the fact that they can qo out, hold publie hearings, ask for public input, consult with various groups that would be involved, is important. So, I just think that that being the thrust and the emphasis of the -- the task force, then we should have more publtc members involved.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Smith.

..e lmicrophone cutoffl.ovMadam Chairman' and to the -- to the sponsor. We had the same input that you're talking about right now, beiore. We didn't -- and we weren't charging people money and now -- and we were tryinq -- and we did a very effective job. Now is this supposed to be somethîng that you#re trying to give 1 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSBMBLY REGULAR SBSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqislative Day May 2l: 1995 added jobs to people who have done favors for the -- the Statee or for the Governor? This just doesn't make sense, and you're talkinq about you can't let us have money to even help people, who are present or -- or assistance to people who are up aqainst it, for five dollars an hour. And here youlre going to establish a -- a -- a welfare task force. This just does not -- ik's consistent, my friend. T know what yourre saying. It's -- tt's intelligent, but we had the same thing. What's so different? What -- what are they goin: to do that's -- that we have not already done in this Senate? And we were very elfective. We had...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator... SENATOR SMITH; .. . sector. We had people from the providers, all on these committees, and you -- and -- and -- and they were discontinued. Now why is this task force qoing to be so different?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

Well, when we debated Senate Bill l0# I believe it was, the Welfare Reform Legislation, from what we heard from the lady who's speakin: now and others, was lHow are you going to implement a proqram when you ask for the Aid to Family with Dependent Children whea you ask that to be phased out.? Thts is an attempt to create a responsible and a meaningful task force to come up with recommendations to do the very thing that many of you were so concerned about. I mean, that's -- was really why Ehls waG introduced. It's as you can see, it's the last bill on the Calendar. It's obviously something that wasn't thought about back in the early months of Session. This came about because of some of the concerns that was addressed by Members of that voted No in committee. 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 54th Legislative Day May 2le 1995 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) ' senator Smith, to tbe bill. I I SENATOR SMITH: I To my colleague: 1 thlnk youfre tryinq to embarrass the people l who served on the -- on the committee that we had before. We had a task force, and I think those people were competent and well able to do anythin: that we asked them to do. But we were discontinued, and I -- what you're saying is double-talk. Thls can do the same thing, and I cannot see why we would have to have -- create another task force unless you have some new people that you want to give some positions to or that the Governor has to pay back. Now this is not fair. Tt's not right.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Smith, have you -- Will you please bring your remarks to a close.

1 just -- l cannot see the feasibility in creating another task force, to establish a welfare reform task force - just a new name - welfare reform. We already had one, and it was working and very active. And this is just somekhing new to add some more new names to give some more people jobs of which you already had people who you were not paying, merely that little expense to come down here, and they were well-qualified people. Now, if you're talking about saving some money, you#re -- you're wasting money. And 1 think that -- 1'm saying to all of my colleagues here, I'm askin: you, please do not vote for this legislation, because it's nothing but double... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATORGEO-KARIS) l Any further discussion? Senator Demuzio. 1 I SENATOR DEMUZIO: I I Well, thank you, Madam President and Members of the Senate. ! I I Senator Watson, I -- 1 donlt disaqree with what you are doing I I I 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 here, but you've been around here long enough to know, as I have, that you can create a task force without legislation. Really this is unnecessary. lt jugt -- you know, the -- as a matter of factp four of the nine members come from the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House. Three come from the Governor. There's seven of the nine. Two goes to the Minority. You don't need leqislation to create a task force. And once you get it created , you got all ehe members anyway. So what difference does it make? PRES:DING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) àny further -- did you Wish a response from Senator Watson? He wishes a response from you, Senator Watson.

Well, look at the makeup of the committee. There's two, four, six, seven Republicans on the Committee, and four Democrats. I mean if -- I wasnft looking for this to be a partisan issue. -- it shouldn't be. mean, we are trying to -- I think, sincerely address the concerns that many people brought to thls Floor when we talked about sunsetting the AFDC Program and how we wlll go about gettinq input to make sure that the program or a responsible program is in its place. That's what this is aboutz Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Demuzio.

Again, 1'm not quarreling with what you are doing, but there are not eleven members of your committee, there are nlne. Seven of them are from the Majority party. Four come -- two from the President, tWo from the Speaker that's four. Three from the Governor - that is seven. There are only nine, the way I read it, Which means it's seven to two. That's a11 I'm saying. It's not eleven. It's seven to two.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GBNDRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 Any further discussion? Senator Raica. SENATOR RAICA ) Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. We had, at the State of Illinois Center, and a few meetings down here. In fact, they were -- one of them was in Senator Colllns' office. We had like five meetings at the State of Illinois Center, regardinq the question of welfare and trailer bills to Senate Bill l0, and the entire topic of Welfare reform in the State of lllinois. One of the thinqs that came up, if I'm not mistaken, was even a recommendation that there wculd be a committee that would be set up to take a look at Welfare and -- and the restructure of the welfare system in the State of Illinois. Because the concern from a majority of the people that were at this meetinq was that the Legislature, when the termination of Welfare comes about, need not meet to discuss anythingy and thereby not allowing public input as far as what the fate of welfare would be. And, if IAm not mistaken, Madam President. they suqqested, if not, there was a bill that floated in this Body re:ardin: setting up a task force. 1 don't think what Senator Watson's attempting to do is ls is wrong at all. : think it's ensuring that when welfare sunsets that we need to revisit that prior to that happenin: and take a look at what we need to do with the posslbllity of restructuring Senate 3il1 10 and getting more money , hopefully, to a lot of the constituents throughout the State of Jllinois. So I -- 1 stand in Gupport, as Chairman of Public Hea1th, with Senator Watson On this bill. It just seems that whenever that topic is brought up in this Body that a11 of a sudden something underhanded is attempting to be done. senator Watson's aktempting to put it on the table and say we need to take a look at this. And I would just solicit an Aye vote, at least from the Members on this side of the atsle and hopefully most on the other side of the aisle . 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SBSSION SENATE TRANSCRTPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l# 1995 ! i ! PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) j Further discussion? Senator Collins. l I SENATOR coLclNs: i Senator Watson, did Senate Bill 10 call for the creation of a' 1 I task force to look at alternatives to the welfare system? 1 1 PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Watson.

No, it did not.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Collins.

So this task force was not a part of the -- Senate Bill 10 that the Governor has signed already? I thought -- I thought that this -- that there was a calling for some kind of task force in Senate Bill l0? Okay. Well, the problem here is, Senator, it's not the people are opposed to the task force, and l -- I would suggest to you, you still have some time to take this bill out of the record. And itfs about the makeup of the task force. I -- I concur that there most certainly need to be something -- some kind oi mechanism by whicb would allow for maximum community input and involvement of the various groups and department who provides services to AFDC clients to -- to sit around the table and work out a -- a viable alternative to the welfare system, once it's sunset in Senate Bill l0. You can't do that -- you can't do that, Senator Watson: with this kind of structure. You have to have a structure that is representative of those who are involved in service delivery, as well as clients. And that's a1l the problem is, and 1 would be very happy to help you, ié you take it out of the record, restructure the task force and then come back before we adjourn and pass it.

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 59  STATE OF JLLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearin: ! E I none, Senator Watson, to close. I ! SENATOR WATSONI I I I Well, thank youe Madam President. I -- this should be, 1 ' I I guess. kind of an innocuous piece of legislation, but I I unfortunately it has created considerable discussion, such as what I I 1 went on with -- With Senate Bill l0, and -- and the welfare I 1 reform. And if you'll remember the discussion and the debate that went on, those who opposed the measure that -- that included the sunsetting of the AFDC Program on January 1st, 1999: I don't know how many times I asked -- answered the question of: What are we going to do to make sure that something will be in place, in a proper manner, at that particular point in time? We're just simply not goin: to throw the program out, without adequatê -- and - - discussion. I mean, that -- that dialoque went on here on several different times durin: that debate. I mean, 1 don't know how many times I answered the question. So, we come up with what We think is a reasonable response. We want to have public input. 1 don't want to throw the program out without making sure that a - - that an honest attempt, and a sincere attempt, and an attempt that weere trying to get public input, and the people that are professionals in the -- in the system and recommendations from them. That is important. I agree. : agree with the debate that went on at that time. So we come forth with legislation such as this, to make that -- respond to those concerns. That's a11 this is, Madam President, and I thtnk that we should support this, and hopefully send it to the Governor for his consideration. Now those that may be concerned about the -- the political makeup of this, a11 they need to do is go to the Governor's Office and if track record means anything, or precedent means anything, we probably will be out numbered on this task force. So that should solve the j concerns of the other side of the aisle on the partisan aspects of I 1 I ! 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SBNATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 19.95 this. So 1 would encourage a Yes vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question ts, shall House 3il1 2465 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wlshed? Have all voted who wished? Take the record . Madam Secretary. On that question, there are 34 votin: Aye, 10 votinq Nay, 11 votin: Present. And this bill, havin: received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) If you turn your Calendars to page 5, with leave of the Body, we'1l return to House Bill 206. Senator Cronin. Senator Cronin, do you wish this bill returned to 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment? Senator Cronin, seek leave of the Body to return House Bill 206 to the Order of 2nd Reading for,the purpose of an amendment. Hearinv no objection, leave ls granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 206. Mr. Secretary, are there any Ploor amendments thak have been approved for conslderation?

Amendment No. offered by Senator Cronin.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DUDXCZ) Senator Cronin.

Thank you, Mr. Presidentv Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment is technical nature. Advances the bill: as we come to a close here. We will come to a close on this issue. We ask for your favorable consideration. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (ZENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, all those favor say Aye. Opposed , Nay. The Ayes have and the amendment is adopEed. lny further Floor amendments approved for consideration?

61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 No further amendments reported .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 3rd Reading. On the Order of Senake Bill -- House Bills 3rd Readinq, House Bill 206. Mr. Secretary, read the bill.

House Bill 206. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Cronin. *

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This, as I explained, is technical in nature. We are advancinq this issue. We have debated, discussed in and out of the public arena. We have some very meritorious proposals that will be considered very soon and debated very thoroughly. We ask for your favorable consideration.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall House Bill 206 pass. Those in favor wlll vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay. The votinq ls open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 35 Ayes, 10 Nays, 6 voting Present, and House Bill 206, having received the required constitutlonal majority, is declared passed. If you turn your Calendars to page l0, to the middle of page lO, Secretary's Desk, Concurrence, Senate Bills. Senate Bill 43. Mr. Secretary -- Senator Woodyard. Senate Bill 43. Mr. Secretary: read the bill.

1 move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 43. Filed by Senator Woodyard. 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 PRESJDJNG OFFICRR: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 1 Senator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD : Thank you, Mr. Presidenty Members of the Senate. This blll, as it left the -- the House - 1 am sorry - as it left tbe Senate , dealt only with honeybees, of a1l things. Well, it's come back to us With a series of House amendments that deals with eggs, with Adopt-a-River, with the Feeder Swine Dealer Licensing Act, an6 a few other odds and ends. None of this is controversial. 1 think probably the only concern that at least has been expressed on my side of the aisle, and this is probably one of the first bills that you're going to see like this: Many of these provlslons put forth and -- and amended onto our Senate bill were bills that never came out of the House. Here againr I -- 1 don't know of any opposition to -- to the actual content of these provislons, and they're basically administrative clean-up things within the Department of Agriculture. And 1'11 try to answer any questions I can, but T will move for concurrence on the House amendments to Senate Bill 43. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 43. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nayg and the votin: is open. Have all voted who wisb? Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House -- House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 43. And the bill, having received the requlred constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 86. Senator Fawell. Mr. Secretary, read the motion. EECRETARY HARRY: I I move to concur with the House intheadoptionoftheir j I 63 I  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSIOX SENATE TRANSCRIPT 51th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 86. Filed by Senator Fawell.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Pawell.

Thank you very much. Basically, What the House did Was strip the bill that was on that -- on Senate Bill 86 oriqinally, and put it another place. House Amendment No. l becomes the bill. It was a bill that we passed originally 56 to nothing. And all i: does is establishes a Domestic Relations Legal Funding Act.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? lf not, the question is: shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 86. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, and none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 86: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority# is declared passed. Senate Bill 105. Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendments l and 2 to Senate Bill 105. Filed by Senator Fawell.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. This was a bill that originally passed the -- the House -- passed the Senate, and the amendments really were clean-up languages. States that a tax buyer may only buy the second year's delinquent taxes after the second installment becomes delinquent, and also, establishes a -- a date that the 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 bill becomes effective.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? Senator Hawkinson.

Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENAYOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates she will yield. Senator Hawkinson.

Senator, could you give us the -- the bill number of the Senate bill?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Fawell.

The -- it was Senate Bill 105. It was suggested by the county treasurer's office, and what it does is, under current law a tax buyer may buy the subsequent year's taxes when they become delinquent, and this just cleans it up.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any further discussion? not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendments No. 1 and to Senate Bill 105. Those in favor will vote Aye, opposed will vote Nay: and the voting is open. Have all voted kho wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 58, no Nays, none voting Present, and the Senate does concur in House Amendments No. 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 105. And the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 104. Senator Madigan. Out of the record. Senate Bill 122. Senator Klemm. Senator Klemm? Senate Bill 162. Senator Klemm. Senator Klemm? Senate Bill 176. Senator Cullerton. Senator Cullerton? Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2;, 1995 move a o concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 176. Filed by Senator Cullerton.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Cullerton.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. House Amendment No. l retains the Bill 176, as we passed it unanimously out of the Senate, and it adds Senate Bill 975, which is Senator Barkhausen's bill, which also passed unantmously, 56 to nothing. And it -- the -- yes, it requires the Department of Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities to take into consideration the diverse costs of doing business among different geographic regions of the State, in determining reimbursement rates. Knd it requires the Department to establish rates which reflect the differences. That Was Senator Barkhausen's bill, khich we are now passing again.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCHI have a question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICSR: (SBNATOR DUDYCZ) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Welch.

Senator Cullerton. the bill says that we're qoing to give different reimbursements to different areas. Could you tell me which areas have higher costs in the State, for these services, than other areas? And which would be gettinq more money, and which would be getting less?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) SenaEor Cullerton.

66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 54th Leqislative Day May 2l, 1995 I I believe that the -- the language of the bill says that they should take it into consideration. So I don't think it's a -- a -- exactly a formula change. It's a -- the actual language of the bill says that, when determining rates, *he Department shall take into consideration differences in the costs of doing business among various geographical regions, and shall set rates that reflect those differences. So, don't thtnk it's a change in the formula.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch.

Well, I'm sure that the sponsor of the bill had some idea what the result of having a differential in rates would be. So I would assume that since the sponsor is from your district, that your district would probably end up with more funding than -- than some other districts. Would that be a safe assumption?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Cullerton.

No. The -- the Sponsor of -- you're talking about the sponsor of the amendment, in the House? Is that what youlre referring to? Sponsor of the amendment in the House was my State Representative, but it was a bill that was sponsored by Senator Barkhausen and Hughes. So, I don't know if -- if one was trying to get more money for their district by -- by introducing the amendment. I think it -- what they're just saying is it makes sense for the Department to take into consideration differences in the cost of doing business in various geographical regions. For example, things are a 1ot less expensive in Beardstown than they Would be in Chicago.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch. 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqislative Day May 2l, 1995 ' I SENXTOR WELCH: ; I ! Well, that's what I'm gettin: at. I'm wondering What the basis is for determining what is more expensive and what is less? You know, this is like the school aid formula. Al1 of us have our own opinion as to what the fairest formula would be, and coincidently, it just happens that our districts end up with the most money. You know, so anytime we see a formula proposal, it seems to me that the sponsors of tbe bill are -- are looking at it tilting in their favor. So -- so that would seem to me to be logical and -- and since yougre from -- you and the sponsor of the House amendment are from one area of tbe State: and 1$m from a different one, I'm just trying to get at, is it more favorable to you than to me?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Cullerton.

Well, I -* I didn't think that you would care whether it was more favorable; I thought you would care if it was just more fairo And Senator Barkhausen and I come from very poor sections of the State, Senator Barkhausen from the Lake Forest area and mine from the Gotd Coast area on the Lake -- Lake Shore Drive. And so, in - - in determining rates for paying for mental health, if we have real, real expensive doctors that live in Lake Forest and in Chicago in those high-rises, we want to give them more money, and that's what this amendment does.

PRESIDIHG OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Welch.

Well, I congratulate you and the House sponsor on protecting your own districts. I think that you've done an excellent job. Unfortunately, it doesn't help my district much. Thank you. PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) I 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Any further discussion? Senator Fawell. SENATORFAWBLL: l Thank you very much. I -- 1 think I miqht be able to shed a little light on the subject. For about a year and a half, Senator Topinka, who was former president -- or, the former Chairman of the Hea1th Committee, and another group of -- of providers, and so on and so forth, alonq With several members of the Health Committee met, rather continuously, and came up with this formula. I think it was qenerally accepted by all the providers in the State, and I think that's basically what this is.

PRESIDING OFFICBR: (SENATOR DUDXCZ) Any further discussion? lf not, Senator Cullerton, to close.

Yes. I would ask for a favorable vote. Remember that weAve already voted for both the underlyinq bill and this amendment, and b0th of them passed 56 to nothing.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) The question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 176. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted wbo Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record . On that question , tbere are 55 Ayes, 3 Nays, none voting PresenE. And the Senate does concur in House Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 176, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. On the top of paqe l2, on the Order of Secretary 's Desk: Concurrence, Senate Bills, Senate Bill 225. Senator Madigan. Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

1 move to concur with the House in the adoption oi their Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 225. Filed by Senator Madigan. ! 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GDNERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATD TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21. 1995

PRESIDINGOPFICER: (SENATORDUDYCZ) Senator Madigan. à I SENATOR MADIGAN) Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 225, as ik left the Senate, amended numerous codes in the Statutes, as requested by the Department of Professional Regulation. Mostly -- or almost a11 of them are -- or, a1l of them are administrative changes. The House added two amendments to Senate Bill 225. House Amendment 1 amended the Environmental Hea1th Practitioner Licenslng Act to require any person who enqages in an environmental health practice after December 31st of 1996, to -- to be licensed. And it amended the Professional Enqineer <sic> Act to maintain the Department's membership ln the Council of Examiners. and it also would allow the Department of Professional Regulakion to endorse an applicant from a foreign country if that country was a member of the North American Free Trade Agreement. I'd be glad to answer any questions on House Amendments No. 1 and 2, and otherwise would ask ior concurrence.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDVCZ) Js there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the senate concurinHouseAmendmentsNo.1and2toSenateBill225. 1 Those in favor will voke Aye. 3pposed will vote Nay, and the 1 1 voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendments No. l and 2 to Senate Bill 225, and the -- and the bill, having received the required 1 I constitutional majority, is declared passed. GenaEe Bill 256. 1 I Senator Butler. Mr. Secretary, read tbe motion. 1 1 I sscnsmwpvHznny: 1 1 Imove to concurwiththe House in the adoption of their 1 Amendmentsland4toSenateBill256. j l 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 ! Filed by Senator Butler. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) i Senator Butler. SENATOR BUTLER: Thank you very much, Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen: House Amendment No. 1 is a compromise worked out with the Retatl Merchants regarding the -- the ability of the liquor commissioners to charge attorney's fees. That has been deleted. House Amendment No. 4 is a compromise between the non-home rule municipal association, and the associated fire -- 1'm sorry, not - - I'm sorry, check that. It is a compromise between Municipal Associations and the Associated Fire Pighters of Illinois. And lt covers the -- the use of the -- of insure fire -- foreign fire insurance revenues, and requires certain funds to be audited, and -- and also covers the way they are going to be used. So I#d ask your favorable vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? SENATOR BUTLER: This -- and this covers non-home rule communities. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any dlscusslon? If not, the question isy shall the Senate concur in House Amendments No. l and 4 to Senate Bill 256. Those in favor will vote Aye. The opposed Will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayesp no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendments No. l and 4 to Senate Bill 256. And the bill, baving received tbe required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 327. Senator Dunn. Mr. Secretary, read the motion. SECRETARY HARRY: 71 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their i Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 327. Filed by Senator Ralph Dunn.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Dunn.

Thank you: Mr. President, Members of the Senate. House Amendment l to Senate Bill 327 amends and adds to the original bill. Defines coal combustion waste and coal combustion by-product. It also allows coal combustion by-products to be used in manufacturing building material, and on IDOT road construction if substitute for lime , and other things as a structural field in mine reclamation. And this is -- I move to concur.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SDNATOR DUDVCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 327. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay , and the voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays: none votin: Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendments No. -- House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 327, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 365. Senator Sieben. ' Mr. Secretary -- Senator Sieben. SENATOR S1R3EN : Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to move to non-concur with House àmendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 365. Non-concur.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, Senator Sieben, moves to non-concur in House Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 365. All those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The motion carriesp and the Secretary shall so inform the House. Senate Bill 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATZ TNANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 370. Senator Woodyard. Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 370. Filed by Senator Woodyard.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Woodyard.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. The underlying bill here was proposed by the Downstate Tax Buyers Association. There *as no objection to that underlying bill dealing with sales and errors. Senator DeAngelis had introduced and passed, 86 to nothing, here in the Senate, a bill -- Senate Bill 396. That resided in the House Rules Committee and was eventually amended onto this. And a1l it does is clarify the -- the time of deposit, by postmark, on redemption of -- of tax sales. That's a11 lt does.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? lf not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 370. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Hay. And the voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendment No. to Senate Bill 370, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 395. Senator Fawell. Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

move to concur with the House in the adoption of their AmendmenEs l and 2 Eo SenaEe Blll 395. Filed by Senator Fawell.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54:b Legislative Day May 21, 1995 Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. The original underlyin: bill was basically a clean-up bill that was requested by the Secretary of State. House Amendment No. l includes child abandonment and endangering the life or health of a child in the list of offenses an applicant for a school bus driver permit shall not have been convicted of committin: or attempting to commit. And House Amendment 2 Was really Senate 3il1 1026, which passed 56 to nothing. Just requires the Secretary of State to prohibit the renewal? issuance, or reinstatement of a personfs drivin: privilege for failure to pay certain penalties. This was a clean-up language Ehat the clerk of the courts wanted.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? lf not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendments No. and 2 to Senate Bill 395. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur House Amendments No. and 2 to Senate Bill 395: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Viverito, for what purpose do you rise?

point of personal -- excuse me, point of personal privilege.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) State your point.

I don't know exactly how to present this question. know that the Senate ls controlled by the Republican ParEy, and I know that the -- a11 the Chairs are the majorities are a1l 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 ; controlled by the Republican Party: and me being a new Senator, I went to park in my parking place, and I noticed that Senator l Parker had taken my place. Do I have to park across the street, or do I find another parking place?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senate Bill 440. Senator Tom Walsh. Senator DeAngelis, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR DeANGELIS: Just on a point of personal privilege. Senator Viverito, I do not believe it's a Republican or Democratic issue; I believe it's an Italian issue. Senator Maitland took my parking space today.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Mr. Secretary: read the motion.

I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 440. Filed by Senator Walsh.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Walsh.

Thank you, Mr. President. Just real quickly. Senator Viverito, you -- in your looking for a parking space, you took my parking space, and 1et me tell you how I handled it. I took your rearview mirror off. I just -- you'll probably never do it again. Thank you, Mr. President. House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 440 is Senate Bill 304, which passed here with I don't believe any No votes, and I'd ask to concur.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ls there any discussion? If not, the question is? shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 410. A11 those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 75  ( STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995l Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 56 Ayes, no Nays: none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendment Ko. l to Senate Bi11 440, and the bi11, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Committee Reports. SECRETARY HARRY : Senator Weaver, Chair of the Committee on Rules, reports the following Legislative Measures have been assigned to committees; referred to the Committee on Environment and Energy - motion to concur with House Amendment 1 to Senate Bi11 629; to the Committee on Judiciary - Senate Amendment l to House Bi11 652; to the Committee on Local Government and Elections - motion to concur with House Amendment 1 to Senate Bi11 1111; to the Committee on Revenue - Senate Amendment l to House Bill 1465: and to the Committee on Transportation - Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 1587. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator DeAngelis, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR DeANGELIS: 1 want to make you an offer you can't refuse. We want to call for an Italian caucus. ' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) The bottom of page l2, Secretary's Desk, Concurrence, Senate Bills. Senator Woodyard, on Senate Bill 442. Mr. Secretary, read the motion. SECRETARY HARRY: I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 142. Filed by Senator Woodyard. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD : 76  l ' STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Thank you, Mr. President, Members of tbe Senate. As I think gou may recall, this bill dealt with suspension or revocation of licensure under Department of Professional Regulation on delinquent or defaulted student loans, and the House amendment simply clarifies that there is a process to allow for repayment of those loans. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, the question is# shall the Senate concur in House -- shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate -- House Amendment No. l to Senate 5ill 442. All those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nayz and the voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 58 Ayes. no Nays, none kotinq Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 442, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. On the top of page 13, on the Order of Secretary's Desk, Concurrence, Senate Bills. Senate Bill 448. Senator Woodyard. Mr. Secretary, read the motion. SECRETARY HARR7: . .o move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bt1l 448. Filed by Senator Woodyard. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD: Thank you very much, Mr. President? Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 448 passed out of here unanimously. It's a start-up of a -- of a remediation program on chemical fertilizer plants. Another bill that dealt with, also, herbicides, pesticides - Senate Bill 392 - never got out of House Rules Committee. It's pretty noncontroversial. It's something we've been doing for 77 ! ! ! 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GBNERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 quite a number of years and this simply codifies that to allow the field application of -- of wash water on herbicides, pesticides on fields.

PNESIDING OFFJCER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) ls there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate coneur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 448. A1l those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the votin: is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendment No. to Senate Bill 448, and the billp having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 452. Mr. Secretary: read the motion.

I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. to Senate Bill 452. Filed by Senator Donahue.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDXCZ) Senator Donahue. SENATOR DONAHUE) Thank you very much, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1 move to concur in House Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 452. The underlyin: bill deals with mammography and allowing the Department of Nuclear Safety to be the accreditinq aqent. And the amendment simply deletes the provision for them to be able to fine various entities that don't pay their reqistratlon on time. It costs them about forty thougand dollars to do thisp and they only collect about fifteen thousand dollars in fines. And so it makes sense to me, and I would move to concur in House Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DUDVCZ) 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 452. A1l those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have all voted who vish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question: there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does -- does concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 452. And the bill, havinq received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 461. Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 461. Filed by Senator Karpiel.

PRESJDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Karpiel.

Thank youz Mr. President. House Bill -- the amendment to -- amendments to -- to Senate 3i1l -- the House amendments to Senate Bill 46l therets two tsic> of them - they do two things. It amends the Environmental Protection Act to exempt packages or packaging components used to contain distilled spirits that have been bottled before July 1st, 1991, from the toxic packaging reduction provisions, and it also amends the Environmental Protection Act to repeal the rules regarding air emission controls -- control requirements on bakery ovens.

PREZIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If notp the question is, shall the Senate concur ln House Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 461. Al1 those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay. And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voked who kish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, 79  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 there are 55 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 461: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 534. Senator Madigan. Senator Madigan? Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

1 move to concur with the House in tbe adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 534. Filed by Senator Madigan.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Madiqan.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 534 added the -- dealt with the Dental Practice Act. And House Amendment No. redefines or define the dental hygienist as a person who holds a license under the Act, and clarifies that dentofacial orthopedics and pediatric dentistry shall be included as branches of dentistry, and added similar lanquage that we just passed a little while ago on 225: that require any applicant to be a U.S. citizen due to the North American Free Trade Agreement. Added some ne* fees. I would be glad to answer any questions on House Amendment No. to Senate Bill 534, and would ask...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 534. Al1 those in favor wll1 vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have a11 voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, 1 Nay, none voting Present. And the Senate does concur in House -- House Amendment No. l to Senate 3i1l 534, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. On the top of page l4, Secretary's Desk, on the 80  STATC OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 I Order of Concurrence, Senate Bills, Senate Bill 774. Senator I Barkhausen. Senator 3arkhausen? Mr. Secretary, read the motion. l I SECRETARX HARRY: I $ I I move Eo concur with the House' in the adoption of their I Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 774. Filed by Senator Barkhausen.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Barkhausen.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members. I move for concurrence in Amendment No. 1. Most of the changes are completely technical. The one that was the subject of some discussion in the committee, and the committee did easily concur, has to do with the ability of this new Fort Sheridan Commission to, under certain circumstances, possibly sell land or transfer land for less than fair market value. The Fort Sheridan property, as most of you may be familiar with this unique piece of property on the shores of Lake Michigan in my district, has some historic structures and it's felt that there miqht be a situation Where competing developers could present alternative plans and one of them mlqhk offer more money but not offer a plan that was in keeping with the goals of the communities partlclpating in this Commissionp and the Commission might therefore need some flexlbility, and that's what we're trying to gtve them here. And I therefore move concurrence.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? Senator Demuzio.

Well, the only quarrel that I would have with this piece of legislation, that it does, in fact, allow this new -- or permits 1 this new Commission to - as Senator Barkhausen has indicated - to I dispose of interest in property for less than the market value. I j J don't know if that is something that we do for other commissions, j l 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENSRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 but perhaps if you could reiterate: perhaps, your argument in favor of giving the Commission that type of authority, perhaps you I can convince me to vote for this.

PRESIDING OFFICBR: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Barkhausen.

Yes. Thank you , Senator Demuzio. I was trylnq to do that without dragging out the discussion here unnecessarily. The Commisston has -- bas explained to us that they anticipate at least a mere possibility that one or more developers could present them with alternative plans. There could be a situation where one plan -- one developer offered a plan and -- and offered to pay more for the property than another developer that had a plan that didn't meet the -- With the goals of the commission. Which the overriding qoals are, on the one hand, to preserve the historic character of the middle part of the fort property than contains many o1d buildings with unique architectural character: and the other overriding qoal is to preserve much of the property, particularly the northern portion, for open space and recreation, since this is the only open property on the lake front - public property - remaining. And therefore, the commission would -- might be in a situation where they would want the flexibility to accept a proposal that wasn't -- didn't necessarily involve an offer of the most money. ln addition, they have, as a goal, havinq the golf course currently there end up in the hands of the Lake County Porest Preserve District, which is currently operating it on a lease from the Army. If there are any other questions, I'd I be glad to try to answer them. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) i Anyfurtherdiscussion? SenatorTrotter. ) ! SENATOR TROTTER; I Thank you very much, Mr. PresidenE. I just want to say, in l j 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 I committee there was a lot of discussion in -- in working with the F ! ort Sheridan joint planninq committee. They answered most of the concerns, gave us some clarifying lanquage, and this is now a qood ' bill. And I just ask for everyone to vote for it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discusslon? Senator Geo-Karls.

: Will the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDING UFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) i I Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Geo-Karis.

Did : understand that there was an amendment put on your bill in the House?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENKTOR DUDYCZ) Senator Barkhausen.

Yes. I wouldn't be moving for concurrence unless there had been an amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Geo-Karis.

Could you please -- I Was tied up before. Could you please just give me a thumbnail sketch of what the amendment Was?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Barkhausen.

Well, as I've been doin: thatf various Members have been yelling time at me, and so I -- I do so at some risk, Senator. But, apparently the clock is running. Again, it has to do with I giving the developers -- or I should say the Commission some flexibility -- more flexibility than they might normakly have in i choosing an appropriate developer jor this special piece of 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqislative Day May 2l# 1995 property.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Any further discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendmqnt No. l to Senate 3i1l 774. All those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the votinq is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 56 Ayes, l Nay, none voting Present, and the Senate does concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 774. And the -- the bill, havin: received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 789. Senator Karpiel. Mr. Secretary, read the motion.

I move to concur With the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 789. Filed by Senator Karpiel.

PRBSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Karpiel.

Thank you, Mr. President. I move to concur in House Amendment to Senate Bill 789. As the bill left the Senate, it amended the Environmental Protection Act to clarify the definition of storage site and transfer station, and defines transfer containers. The House amendment simply tightens up the definltion of transfer containers, and I ask for your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. 1 to Senate Bill 789. All those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 58 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the Senate 84  STATE OF ILLIXOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRAVSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995 does concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 789, and the bill: havtng received the requlre; constitutional majority, is ; declared passed. Senate Bill 866. Senator O'Malley. Mr. I Secretary, read the motion.

I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 866. Filed by Senator O 'Malley.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator O 'Malley.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. The -- the amendment to Senate B11l 866 merely adds the -- the complete text of Senate 3ill 79 that passed out of tbe Senate 56 to nothing. That bill was offered by Senator Fitzqerald. It amends the Code of Civil Procedure, tbe Rights of Married Persons Act, and the Joint Tenancy Act. It clarifies that beneficial interest in a land trust held in tenancy by the entirety shall be given the same effect as the usual ownership of land in tenancy by the entirety.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? If not: the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendment No. l to Senate Bill 866. All those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed Will vote Nay, and the voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. And the blll, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared . passed. Senate Bill 1095. Senator Severns. Mr. Secretary: read the motion.

I move to concur with the House in the adoption of their 88  STATE OF :LLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 1095. elled by Senator Severns.

PRBSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. This Senate bill passed out without any oppositionp and I move to concur with House Amendment 1, which would reguire an update of -- of the summary on breast cancer. The second amendment was initiated by both the lllinois State Medical Society and the lllinois Caucus on Adolescent Health. lt changes references in several Acts from venereal disease to sexually transmitted diseases. know of no opposition, and would urge the adoption of -- concurrence with both of these amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any discussion? lf not, the question is, shall the Senate concur in House Amendments No. l and 2 to Senate Bill 1095. A11 those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed will vote Nay, and the voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 56 Ayes, no Nays, none votinq Present. And the Senate does concur in House Amendments No . l and 2 to Senate Bill 1095: and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Woodyard, for what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Mr. President. Are you ready for announcements yet? May alert the Members of the Senate Ag-conservation Committee, there will be a meeting tomorrow morning at 8:30 a.m., in Room 212. Shouldn't take too lonq. We have an amendment to the bill that deals with guard dogs, coneg dogsy hot dogs, poodle dogs, or whatever other kind of dogs you want to deal with. 8:30. 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Legislative Day May 21, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Karpiel, ior what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Mr. President. For the purpose of purpose of an announcement. The Executive Committee will meet tomorrow morning at 9 olclock, immediately following Senator Woodyard's committee meeting in Room 212. And you get there early, you can hear a little bit of the testimony on all the different dogs. But, actually, we have only three amendments, so if you're there on time, we can be out of there right away. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Hawkinson, for what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Mr. President. Purposes of an announcement. The Senate Judiciary Committee will meet at 9:30, ln Room 400.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Cronin, for what purpose do you rise?

For purposes of two announcements. First announcement is in regard to the Public Health Committee, the Chairman of the Committee, Senator Raica, has asked me to announce that that committee will meet tomorrow morning at 9 a .m., in Room A-1. My second announcement is in regard to the Education Committee. That will meet in the same room, A-l, at 10 a.m. Thank you.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Burzynski: for vhat purpose do you rlse?

Thank you, Mr. President. For purpose of an announcement. The Executive Appointments Committee will be meeting at 11 o'clock tomorrow. Note the time change, Members; it was originally scheduled for l0. Tt's been pushed back to 11 o'clock, in Room 212. We have twenty-eight individuals appearing in front of the 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRJPT 54th Legislative Day May 2l, 1995 committee tomorrow. Please be prompt. Thank you. PRES:DING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Mahary what purpose do you rise?

o.. lmicrophone cutofflo..announcement, Mr. President. The Senate Environment and Energy Committee will be meetinq at 10:30, in a new room , 212.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Fawell, for what purpose do you rise?

For the purposes of an announcement. The Committee on Transportation will meet at 10 aym. 10 a.m .# in Room 400.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Madiqan, for what purpose do you rise?

Purpose of an announcement, Mr. President. that the Senate Insurance Committee Will meet at 9 aom. tomorrow morninq, in Room 400. lt should be a fairly brief meetinq. And also, a further announcement that the lrish caucus will meet at avm. in the mornin: at -- under the -- under the streetlight at 2nd and Monroe.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Senator Dunn. Ralph Dunn, for what purpose do you rise?

Flne. Thank you, Mr. President. The Higher Education Committee will meet at -- at 8:30 in the morning in Room A-1. We have two amendments to consider. urge everyone be on time. Thank you.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SBNATOR DUDVCZ) Senator Peterson, for what purpose do you rise?

Thank you, Mr. President. For purposes of an announcement. 88  i I STATE OF ILLINOIS i 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 54th Leqislative Day May 2l, 1995 The Revenue Committee will meet at 10:30 a.m., in Room 400. And Senator Klemm has asked me to announce that the Local Government committee will meet at 9:30, in Room A-l. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DUDYCZ) Is there any other business to come before the Senate? If not, Senator Weaver moves the Senate stand adjourned until noonF Monday, May 22nd. I 89  REPORT:TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLIMOIS 96/09/11 PAGE:001 89TH GENERZL 255EHBLï 16:18:36 SEN&TQ DAILY TRAMSCRIPTION OF DEBZTE INDEX MAY 21, 1995 HB 0036 THIRD REZDING - PAGE 6 i HB-0150 THIRD READIVG PAGE 8 I HB-0206 RECâLLED PZGE 61 H8-0206 THIRD READING PàGE 62 H8-0238 THIRD REZDING PâGE 10 BB-03k0 THIRD HEADING PAGE 11 H8-0377 THIRD REàDING PàGE 12 HB-0505 THIRD READING PZGE 1R H8-0929 THIRD READING PAGE 15 HB-097R THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-1069 THIRD REâDING PAGE 2% HB-11O8 SECOND READING PAGE V HB-1116 THIRD READING PâGE 25 HB-1202 THIRD REâDING PAGE 26 HB-1212 THIRD READIVG PàGE 3: HB-12V6 RECALLED PAGE 37 H8-1268 RECALLED PZGE 39 HB-1270 THIRD READIKG PAGE V0 H8-1279 RECALLED PAGE 41 HB-1303 THIRD REâDING PAGE R8 HB-1V3T SECQND READING PAGE 3 HB-1k62 RECALLED PAGE 50 H8-1797 THIRD READING PZGE 51 H8-1967 OTHER PAGE 39 . HB-2k65 THIRD READING PZGE 52 sB-00Vj CONCUHRENCE PAGE 62 SB-0086 COMCURREMCE PAGE 63 SB-0105 CONCDRRENCE P2GE 64 SB-0176 COMCURREMCE PAGE 65 58-0225 CONCURRENCE PAGE 69 :8-0256 CONCURRENCE PZGE 70 SB-032T CQKCURRENCE PZGE 71 58-0365 NON-COVCURRENCE . PàGE 72 58-0370 CONCURHENCE PAGE 79 58-0395 CONCURRENCE PACE 73 SB-0R28 NON-CONCURRENCE PAGE 6 SB-OkMO COMCURRENCE PèGE 75 SB-0kR2 CONCURRENCE PZGE 76 SB-QRM8 CQNCUHRENCE PAGE 17 SB-0k52 CONCURREMCE PAGE 78 sB-0)61 CONCURREMCE PZGE 79 ' 58-0534 CONCPRREMCE PAGE 80 SB-0Y7R CONCURRENCE PAGE 80 ' :8-0789 CONCURRENCE PAGE 64 58-0866 CONCURREMCE PAGE 85 SB-1095 CONCDRPENCE PAGE 85 SPBJFCT MZTTER SEN&TE T0 ORDZR-PRESIDENT PHILIP PAGE 1 PRAYER-SENATOR GEO-KZRIS PAGE 1 PLEDGE 0F ALLEGIâNCE PACE 1 JQURNALS-APPROVED P2GF 1 JOURNALS-POSTPQVED PAGE 1 MESSAGES FROH THE HOUSE PAGE 2 COMHITTEE RPPORTS P2GE 23 COMMITTEE REP0RT3 PACE 76 ADJO/RNMENT PAGE 89