Illinois Senate Floor Debate — May 22, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (GENATOR WEAVER) The regular Session of the 89th General Assembly will come to order. Will the Menbers please be at their desks, and will our guests in the gallery please rise. Our prayer today Will be given by Pastor Gaylord Buss, First United Methodist Church r Lincoln. Pastor.

(Prayer by Pastor Gaylord Buss)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) A11 rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. Senator Sieben.

(Pledge of Allegiance, led by Senator Sieben)

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Reading of the Journal. Senator Butler.

Mr. President, move that readin: and approval of the Journals of Thursday: May 18th7 Friday, May 19th) and Sundayy May 21st, in the year 1995, be postponed. pending arrival of the printed Journals.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Butler moves to postpone the reading and approval of the Journal, pending arrival of the printed transcripts. There being na objectian, it is so ordered. Committee Reports.

Senator Woodyard, Chalr of the Committee on Agriculture and Conservation, reports Senate Bill 623 - the motion to concur wiEh House Amendment l Be Approved for Considerakion. Senator Madigan, Chalr of thq Committee on Insurancer Pensions and Licensed Activities, reports Senate Bill ll4 - a moEion Eo concur with House Amendment l Be Adoptedr Senate Btl1 717 the motion tc ccncur with House Amendment l Be Adopted, Senate Bill 831 - motion to concur with House Amendment 1 Be Adopted, Senate l  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Bill 978 - motion ta concur with House Amendmen: Be Adopted, and Senate Bill 1142 - the motion to concur with House Amendment l Be Adopted. Senator Karplel, Chair of the Committee on Executive, reports Senate Amendment to House Bill 90 Be Adopted, and Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 2429 Be Adopted. Senator Dunn, Chair of *he Commlttee on Hlgher Educationr reports Senate Bil1 2l0 the motion to concur With House Amendments l and 2 Be Adopted; and Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 820 Be Adopted. Senator Hawkinson, Chair of the Committee on Judiciary, reports Senate Amendment to House Bill 652 Be Adopted, and Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 1248 Be Adopted. Senator Klemm , Chair of the Committee on Lccal Government and Elections, reports Senate Bill - the motion to concur with House Amendment l Be Approved for Consideration, Senate 3i1l 77 the motion to concur with House Amendment Be Approved for Consideration, Senate Bill l58 motion to concur with House Amendment Be Approved for Consideration, Senate Bill 948 - motion to concur with House Amendment Be Approved for Consideration, and Senate Bill 1111 - the motion to concur With House Amendment 1 Be Approved for Conslderation. Senator Fawell, Chair of the Commitkee on Transportationr reports Senate Amendment 2 to House Bill 1587 Be Adopted. Senator Mahar, Chalr of the Committee on Envlronment and Energy, reports Senate Bill 629 the motlon to concur with Hcuse Amendment l Be Adopted. Senator Cronin, Chair of the Committee on Education, reports Senate Bi1l 50 the motion to concur with House Amendments l and 8 Be Approved for Considerakion, SenaEe Bil1 k65 Ehe motion to concur with House Amendnent 4 Be Approved for Consideration, and Senate Bill 1005 - the moticn tc concur With House Amendment 1 B9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Approved for Consideratlon. Senator Peterson, Chair of the Committee on Revenuer reports Senate Amendment 1 to House Bill 1465 Be Adopted. And, SenaEor Raica, Chair of the Committee on Publlc Hea1th and Welfare, reports Senate Amendnent 2 to House Bill 2226 Be Adopted, and Senate Amendment 4 to House Bill 2330 Be Adopted.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Messages from the House.

A Message from the House by Mr. McLennand, Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has refused to concur with the Senate in the adoption of their amendment to a bill of the following titley to wit: House Bll1 206, with Senate Amendment 1. Non-concurred in by the Houser May 21str 1995.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Cronin moves that the Senate refuse to recede from the adoption of Senate Amendment No. l to House Bill 206 and a conference commlttee be appointed. Al1 those ln favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have The motion carrles, and the Secretary shall so inform the House.

A Message from the House by Mr. McLennand , Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform the Senate that *he House of Represenkabives has concurred wlth the Sena*e in *he passage of a bill of the following title/ to wit: Sena*e Bill 566, together with the followin: amendment, which is attached, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate; to Wit: House Amendment Passed the House, as amended, May 2ls*, 1995.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 We have a like Message on Senate Bill 838, With Amendments 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and l1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) WCIA requests permission to videotape. Is there leave? Leave is granted. On page 8 of today's Calendar is the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading. Today is the flnal day that a sponscr may move a from 2nd to 3rd, so if you Wish to move them, now is the time. Senator Butler, on House Bill Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

House Bill 32. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Actlvities adopted Amendment No . 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Butler. Any Floor amendments approved fcr consideration?

Amendment No. 2, Mr. Presidentr ls offered by Senatcr Butler.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Butlers ta explain the amendnent.

Thank you very much. Amendment No. -- Committee Amendment No. removed a1l references to the original bill dealing with plumbing -- plumblng exemptions. Amendment No. 2 added Senate Bill 429, which passed the Senate last May 3rd by a -- With 47 votes. That amendment provides that the Illinois Department of Public Hea1th shall work wlth a11 lnterested parEies adopt guidelines for proper installation of manufactured homes. And the third part of Amendment No. added House Bill 1259 and House Bill 1260, written by the Illinois Department of Public Hea1th to clean up some confusing verbiage in -- in their Acts pertaining to  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55*h LegislaElve Day May 22, 1995 modular dwellings. It covers mobile structure, manufactured homes, et cetera. That was Committee No . -- excuse me, Committee Amendment No. PFESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? Senator Berman.

Question of the sponscr. I -- my...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Excuse me.

Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Excuse me just a second, Senator Berman. Senator Butlerr dld you explaln the Floor amendment or Amendment No. 17 Senator Butler.

IIm sorry . -- I moved to -- Committee Amendment Nc . It should have been on No. 2. I'n Sorry. Committee Isic> Amendment No. 2 is a small technical amendment suggested by the Munieipal League to tighten language that was in the original version of Senate Bill 429. We know of no opposition to 32 in this form.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? Senator Berman.

Question of the sponsor, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates he will yield. SENATOR BERMAN) My recollection was that there was a commitment that this blll wasn't going ta move off of 2nd until the plumbers got back to youe because of some questions with language that they had. Senator Butler, could you refresh my memory?  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legfslative Day Ma# 1995

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Butler.

The last heard, there was sone confuslon by the plumbers - over the -- over another part of the bill. It had nothtng to dc with this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Further dlscussion? Senator Berman.

I'm told that they have that they did have sone preblems with what Amendment 1 and the bill addresses. Would you mind taking this out of the record? thlnk that was your commitment to the eommittee. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Butler.

Well, we 've spoken to them . They have not gotten back to us at all on this. And remember, we're close to the deadline.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Berman.

Wel1...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) This is the adoption of amendment, Senator. Itls not 3rd Readtng.

Well, guess then my next question 1s, if you 're gotng to adopt the amendmentg do we have a commltment to bring the bill back before you move it on 3rd? I just -- that was the discussion in committee, and I thtnk you and I would both like to -- to make gure where the plumbers are. That Was what you indicated to the committee. So if you Want to move it to 3rd with the commitment 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 that you'll brin: it back, that's okay with me# too. But just don't Want to to overlook the commitment that you made in committee.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Butler.

Senator, wefre as anxlcus as you are to know where the plumbers are on Ehis. I'd likg to move to 3rd# hoping we're going to hear from them .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Burzynski.

Thank you, Mr. President. Just like Eo rlse in support of the amendmenk. think that a lct of the questlons and the comments that were raised in committee the other day have been answered, and I think that the bill does address the needs of almost everyone that has expressed some concern.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Further discussion? Senator Cullerton.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Senator, you were in committee; you had an amendment that was defeatedr then Ehis amendment was offered. The -- the interest group that was opposed to your amendment was some plumbers. Tbey had not seen your amendment - the second amendment. We all voted for wiEh *he understanding that they Would look at that amendmenk to see if they had a problem With it. My understanding is that they have looked at They have a lobbyist in Springfield that represents their interests. He has communicated at least with our staff Ehak he does have a problem With the amendmenk. So, understand uedre gettin: close ta the end. A1l we're asking for the next fifteen minutes, that we see 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 we can track that person down and have a discussion, very briefly, to see if there's a problem, what the problem is, or -- or maybe there's a misunderstanding. So, that's what the request Would be, since there was a commitment in the committee that you would work out any disagreements that they might have with the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Watson.

Yes. Thank your Mr. President. would like to rise in support of Ehe efforts of Senator BuEler. -- to tell you what happens in the rural arear We -- we just simply don't have that many licensed plumbers. I mean, that's -- that's the problem that we have, is the simple fact that gettlng those type -- thcse individuals, a licensed plumber, to come out to the site to make that connection is a majcr problemy and they're talking about days of delay. And this Would -- they have to conply With the compliance with the Department of Houslng and Urban Development standards under the existing plumbing license law . So don't see that there should be that major of a problem here, and certainly support the Senator's effort.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there further discussion? If not, Senator Butler moves the adoption of Floor Amendment No . 2 to House Bill 32. A11 in favor, siqnify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay . The Ayes have lt, and the amendment adopted. Are there further amendments, Mr. Secretary?

No further amendments reported, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Maitlandr on 820? Read the billr Mr. Secretary.

8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 House B:ll 820. . I (Secretary reads title of bl1l) I I 2nd Reading of the bill. The Comnittee on Higher Education I I adopted Amendment No. 1. I I

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Floor amendments approved for considerakion?

Amendment No . 2, offered by Senator Maitland.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Maitland.

Thank you very much, Mr. President. Members of the Senate, Floor Amendment No . 2 to House 3ill 820 is an amendmenE that replaces the first amendment that we placed on the btll the other day. It was note frankly, what We really Wanted , and this one, 1et me indicate, has four major points. ISAC may purchase or originate loans, other than federally reinsured student loans. Number twor loans origina*ed by ISAC may be secured, may be credit-based, and may be, but not required Eo ber guaranteed by the Commissicn cr any other entity. Number three, expenses to adminlster IsAc-ariginated loans through IDAPP may be paid from sources other than the State's General Revenue Fund. And finally, TSAC may give priority consideration to students who quallfy for assistance under IsAc-adminlstered need-based programs. I would -- I would suggest to *he Body that -- that we have no* received the approval from the Bureau on this amendment yet. We don't knoW for sure whether ue're gaing to move the bill, buE we believe this more clearly embraces what we are attenpting to dor changes in rederal guidelinesr et cetera. And I would seek adoption for the amendment. I will move the bill to 3rd at this point, Mr. Presidentr if it passes. Thank you. I 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? not, the question is, shall the Senate adopt Floor Amendment No. 2 to House Bill 865 -- excuse me, 820. Senate Bill -- House Bill 820. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Have there been other amendments approved for consideratlon?

No further anendments reported, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator O 'Malley/ on 865? Senator 0'Ma11ey. 865. Do you Wish to nove it? Out of the record. Senator Maharr on 10897 Do you wish to move the bill? Mr. Secretary, read the bill.

House Bill 1089. (Secretary reads title of bl11) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Environment and Energy adopted Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Ploor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 3, offered by Senators Walsh and Eitzgerald.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Walsh: on Amendment No.

Yeah. Amendment No. 3 on -- on House Bill 1089 deletes everything except for a setback provision which was similar to House Bill 929 that we passed yesterday, and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22y 1995 Is there discussion? Senator Hendon.

Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates that he will.

Senator Walsh, exactly What Will this amendment do, and is there any specific company that will affect?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Walsh.

I'm sorry. Could -- could you repeat the questiony Senator?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WBAVER) Senator Hendon.

My question is: Exactly What Will this amendment do? What will it accomplish?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) senator Walsb.

Senator, this is the amendment that was debated in the Environment Committee last week, and was -- Was passed through the Environment Committee. And this would allow a recyclkng racility that is located in the City of Chicago, to contlnue to operate.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon .

Okay. This is the Flood Brothers Recyclinq Centerr correct? The one in my district that the people are against?

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Walsh.  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I

It's the -- it's the Flood Brcthers' amendment, yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Further discussion? Senator Hendon.

Well, I'm going to be very brief on this. I just hope that everyone is listening and not just talking, because I'm trying to just make a point without being overdranatic. But this is a bad amendment. This allows one company, who is in violation of the lau, to not just continue to operate, but to expand - to expand. And I urge all Lf you to vote No. I'm going to have to request a roll call on this amendmenty unfortunately. I urge a11 cf you to vote No. I did pass around a letter, and I -- I gave the letter to Senator Walsh, which says that on May the 15th, my frtends - May the 15th - this facility was inspected once again, because the City of Chicaqo is tryinq to work with them, and May the 15th, they found them -- and I Will read -- I'm reading from a letter from the State of Illinois Environmental Protection Agency: Hotwithstanding, Flood Brothers remain obligated to comply with a1l appllcable requirements of the Act and regulations. The IEPA inspected the site - listen to this - May 15th , 1995, and preliminarily, the inspection reveals that the Flood Brothers continue to operate as it has in the past. The sites continue to receive unacceptable amount of mixed waste, along with it -- its recyclables. Flood Brothers is found - and I am still reading - ko be ln violatlon and appropriate enforcemen: action will be taken. So before you vote Yes on this, at least know that May 15th of this year, of this month, they were still found to be in violation of Ehe law. And why in the world Would any of us Vote to allou a campany EhaE is already ln vlola*lon of Ehe lawr accordln: to our own EPA : to get to do more business than tbey 're currently doing? And why a flne Senator such as Senator Walsh 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 would be carrying this is beyond imasination. I urge a No vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Colllns.

Question of the sponsor, please.

FRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He indicates he would yield.

senator, why -- why is it necessary for the Leglslature to get involved in this particular project, given that it is regulaeed also by the City of Chicago? It has been found that there are problems, in that thls -- this particular group seem to have some problems adhering to the the local and State rules and regulations. Why -- what is the urgency and the necessity for the Senate to get involved - the Leglslature to get involved - with this particular project?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Walsh.

Senator, because, in the end of last year, We passed a 1aW that -- that -- that changed their statusy and noW they will need this permit ln order to be a -- a transfer station. This doesn't exempt them from having to go and get other City permits, and it doesn't exempt them from any other State and local laws, as far as transfer skations qo.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) senator Collins said she couldn't hear you, Genator Walsh . Would you repeat? SENATOR WALSS ; Oh, I'm -- I'm sorry. Senator, this is because Lf a -- a 1aN ehat we passed last yêar thae perealned to seebaeks. Prior to this, they were not in violation, but because of our 1aw that We  I I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GZNERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT r 55th Legislatlve Day May 22, 1995 passed, they became in violation. This is in no way going to exempt them from getttng City permits and getting State permits that are necessary to operate a transfer station and for them to also live up to whatever is wiEhin the permit to -- to operate those transfer stations. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Collins. SENATOR COLLINS: Well, Senator, even though We -- We passed the law last year, no matter what we did, lt is not -- the intention of that law was not to allow people to operate hazardous -- under hazardous conditionsy and especially when you're talking abcut in close proxtmity to -- to a schocl. There -- there are little children there. And this particular group have had a history of violatlons. And -- and sc why sbould we '-- why should we -- or, why should they have the audacity to come to the Legislature to seek some relief when theylre in violation of the City regulations, as well as EPA, which is the State laws. And that's where the problem is. I'm not -- I1m no* interested in putting anyone out of business, because we do need jobs and more revenue in the State of Illinois, but at the same Eime, Ehose businesses must realize thaE they -- have to operate Within the confines of the law: and no one should be exempt, especially when it comes to hazardous waste. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank youy Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I -- I rose earlier to -- to comment on the same issue that Senator Walsh did, and Senator Walsh is absolutely correct. Because we chanqed the law on regional centers, that this pu* Ehls operation into -- into *he problem that it's in. And I stand in 14 . , r '  I I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I I I 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 support of this amendment and ask the Members on this side of the aisle to vote Aye also . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Hendon, for a second time. SENATOR HENDON: Thank youp Mr. President. I apologize for rising for a second time, but I want to clear up What my great friend , who I have supported everything that he's Wanted in his community, just sald. I also supported him when he ran for a higher office, because I belleve ln Denny Jacobs. But what he safd fs absolutely incorrect. This facillty and I -- is in violation of the laW currently, as a recycling center - as a recycling center. This amendment will allow them to operate as a waste transfer stationz which allows them to brlng in even more garbase and more solid waste and toxic waste than they've brought in in the past. Sa this -- the 1aw that was passed had nothing to do with -- with their current violations. They are currently in violation of the law, and none of you would wanE this in your district or would force this -- I would not force this on any of yau in your district if your conmunity was -- was completely against this. I urge a1l Members of this -- of this Body, regardless of which side of the aisle that you vote on, to vote for common sense and vote for the health and well-belng of their children. There are eighE elementary schools - eight schools - two chikd parenting centers right by this facllity. I was there personally. The place is being run in a way that is unacceptable. It wculd be unacceptable to you, just like it is unacceptable for the Illknoks EPA. I urge you to vote No on hhis regardless of whoever lobbied you ta do otherwise. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Further discussion? Senator Waksh, to close. SENATOR WALSH: 15 ' è w .  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSBMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Thank you, Mr. Prosident. And -- and can certainly understand Senator Hendon's opposition to this bill: but as I said yesterday khen we talked about a truck billr this is a territorial type of a bill and living in an grban area, unfortunately r Rometimes you have to put up vith things that you don't Want to have to. We have airports and busy streets and train tracks and a lot of things that aren't necessarily conventent for living in a in suburban and in the City ln in Cook County. So I'd just ask for a -- a favorable vote cn this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The question is the adoption of Flcor Amendment No. to House Bill 1089. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposedr Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted whc Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 3l, the Nays are voting Present. Floor Amendment No. House Bill 1089 adopted. Have there been any further amendments approved for conslderation?

No further amendments reported.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Readlng. 1073, Mr. Secretary. Excuse me, 1473. Move Ehe bill.

House Bill 1473. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No commit*ee or Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. 1474.

House B1ll 1474. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments. 16  STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WSAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Petka, on 16547 Read the bill, Mr. Secretary.

House Bill 1654. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readîng of the b111. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have there been any Floor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 1, offered by Senator Petka.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Petka.

Wellr thank you very much, Mr. Presidenkr Members of the Senate. The amendment which has been approved for consideration was a technical amendment which tightened up the language consisting of when a motorcycle would be in violatlon of the -- or, the use of a vehicle on farm property would be consldered a violation under the terms of criminal trespass to land. urge its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) there discussion? If not, Senator Petka moves the adoption of amendment -- Floor Amendment No. to House 3111 1654. A11 in favorp Signify by Gaying Aye. Opposedr Nay. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Have there been any further amendments approved for conslderation?

No further amendments reported .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Readlng. Senakor Madigan: 21087 Read the bill, Mr. 17 ' I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 55th Legislative Day May 22g 1995 Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY: House Bill 2108. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities adopted Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Have ehere been any Ploor amendments approved for eonsideratian? SECRETARY HARRY: Amendment No. 2, offered by Senator Madigan. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madigan. SENATOR MADIGAN: Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. Floor Amendment No. 2 to House Bl1l 2108 represents the efforts of the Governor's Task Force on Horse Raeing, insofar as bringing equity and increasing purses to horse -- the horse racing tndustry in Illinois. It's an extremely long amendment. The highlights of it are insofar as CE allows full cart simulcasting. It contains language inscfar as evening up between host tracks on the simulcastlng. Creates additional off-track betting facilities for the tracks in Illinois. Removes the bonding requirements for Board members. Removes -- requlres the Board to examine llcense applications. The original Floor amendment contained electronie - - this Floor amendnent contatns electronic wagering, which we will address ln an amendment to follou later on -- on House Bll1 2108. I don't know lf we want to discuss this or debate thls on 2nd Reading or 3rd Reading, so at this polnt, 1.11 be glad to answer any questlons to House Bill 2108. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Raica. 18 I I I ., l ' j  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Leglslative Day May 22, 1995 I SENATOR RAICA: I If T may, Mr. PresidenE, just a question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) He lndicates he would yield. SENATOR RAICA: senator Madigan, I knou you 've worked very hard on this. I have Sportsman and Hawthorne in my distrtct: and my understanding, that this does benefit the horse owners and the tracks as well. 1 just -- can you just answer that just for the matter of record? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madigan. SENATOR MADIGAN: Thank your Mr. President. Senator Raicaz the answer to that is yes. Everyone is -- you know . PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there further discussion? If notr Senator Madigan moves the adoptlon of Floor Amendment No. 2 to House Bill 2108. A11 in favor, slgnify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments? SECRETARX HARRY: Amendnent No. 3, offered by Senator Jacobs. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank you -- thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 3 -- for the reeord, in Amendment No. 3, the reference to page and line numbers on pase 1, line 8 should state 6.11,6 instead of .,10'' Whenever this amgndmenE was approved by the committee, we made notice that there should have been a folloW-up amendnent to clarffy this error. Unfortunately, that I error was not allowed to be rectified. I Would have preferred to I have seen it happen that way so we could take *his amendment up or I 19 è .. .  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 down on its oWn merits. 3ut this is the only issue - *he only issue -- and, Senator Raica, you asked *he question about helping horsemen and the horse raee industry. This is the only issue ln the entiçe bill that truly deals With llve horse raclng . All otber issues in this bikl relate to expansion of gambling. My amendment would noE have been an expansion, only a pernigsive return to live racing the developer or the owner felt thak the deal was lucrative enough. What the amendnent does is to allow *hem the same proviso as what is available for Fairmount, Which will also be dealt with in this bill. It was a fair and equitable amendment. fact, Without thts amendmenE, what this bill does, it will remove one of the safeguards that this Bodyr this Legislature, put into the bill regarding live racing. When we passed the bill for off-track bettin: parlors, we felt that there were some needs for some safeguards from the live rackng facillties moving from live racing and moving to off-track betting parlors. So We put a provision in that law, and in that law we said that if you discontinue live racing and you don 't bring lt back Within five years, that you lose your off-track betting parlors. Now, Quad City Downs has lost that advantage in fact, this bill passes, because what we are doing now is sayin: to Quad City Downs, you can have two more off-track betting parlors, but you don't have to contlnue live racing. In factr We are removing that provision from you . Other technical amendments were approved committee, and we 'll be working on those. This amendment, for Nhatever rgason - Amendment No. - was felk thae it would be a disruptive influence on the delicate balance, if you Will, brought about by the bfg-Efme Erack owners. Iem afraid and I'm not really speaking to the amendment right nowz but -- but it has a bearing on it that in reference Eo helpkng horsemen, helping horse breeders, helping the horse racing industry, in fact what We are gradually comlng to is an areaa to where we have one 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBFY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22r 1995 or tWo live race tracks and everythtng else being inter-track and off-track. I ask for an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discusslon? Senator Madigan.

Thank you, Mr. President. want to commend Senator Jacobs for his efforts -- on the Quad City Downs; howeverr I must rematn stand in opposition to Floor Amendment No. 3 to House Bill 2108. Senator Jacobs menttoned the delicate balance that has gone on over these discusslons over the last three yearsr and would say that is very accurate. This has been a long arduous process, and to bring this matter, which is a problem but is not supported by the horse racing industry and therefore not part cf the dlseussions as far as the Task Force, I would ask that this Floor Amendment No. 3 be defeated and request a roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there further discussion? If not, Senator Jacobs, to close.

Thank your Mr. President. Let me just state before this vote taken - and we probably know where going but in reference to the dellcate balance that was so much in effect that tf my anendment got on - we will be following this with amendments on the Arlington surcharge, be following t* on I mean, electronic wagering, and againr helplng Fairmountr Which I definitely want to da. So there are other ktems out there to to disturb the delicate balancg. think it's a good amendment, and I ask for your support.

PRESIDINC OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs moves the adoption of Floor AmendmenE No. 3 to House 3il1 2108. Those favor wikl vote Aye. Opposed; Nay. The vobing is open. Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted Who 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 wlsh? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there Ayes are 28, khe Nays are Flcor Amendment No. to House Bill 2108 is adopted. Are there further amendments, Mr. Secretary? Senator Madigan.

- - thank you : Mr. President. would request a verification of the affirmative votes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madigan requests a verification. W111 the Senators be in their seatsy and the Secretary will read the affirmative votes.

Following voted in the affirmative: Bermanr Bowles, Carrollr Claybotne, Collins, Cullerton, del Valle, Demuzio, Qom Dunn: Farley, Fitzgerald, Garciaz Hawkinson, Jaeobs, Jonesr Lauzen, Mahar, Molaroe O'Malleyp Palmer, Rea, Severns, Shadid, Shaw, Smith , Trotterr Viverito : and Welch .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madiganr do you have -- question the presence of any Senator voting on the prevailing side?

Yes, Mr. President. Senator Shaw.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Shaw on the Flcor? Senator Shaw? Strike his name.

Senator Hawkinson.

PRESIDINC OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator HaNkinson on khe Floor? Senator Hawkinson? Strlke his name.

Senator O'Malley .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is Senator OfMalley on the Floor? Senator O'Malley? Strike  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 hiS name.

Senator Lauzen.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Lauzen on the Floor? Senator Lauzen? Strike his name.

Senator Mahar.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Mahar on the Floor? Senator Mahar? Strike his name.

Senator Fitzgerald.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Fitzgerald? Senator Fitzgerald on the Floor? Strtke his name.

Senator Carroll.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Carroll on the Floor? Senator Carroll? Strike his name .

Senakor Collins.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Collins on the Floor? Senator Collins? Strike her name. Senator Madigan.

That's it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) On a verlfled rcll call, the Ayes are 20, and the Says are 25. Wouldn't affect the outcome. Thank you. We'11 show him as recorded. Having received -- having failed to receive the required vokes, the amendment fails. Any further amendments, Mr. Secretary? 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I SECRETARX HARRY : I Amendment No . 5, offered by Senator Mad igan. l PRESIDING OFFECER: (SENATOR WEAVER) For wh#t purpose does Senator Jacobs arise? SENATOR JACOBS: Well, let's see how many can take the mass exodus on the negative side. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs asks for a verification of the negative vote. Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY: Following voted in the negative: Barkhausen, Butler, Cronin, DeAngelis, Dillard, Dcnahue, Dudycz, Fawell, Geo-Karisy Hasara, Karpiel, Kkemm : Madigan, Maitland, Parker, Peterson, Petka, Ralca, Rauschenbergerr Sieben, Walsh, Watson, Weaver, Woodyard, and Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs, do you questlon the presence? SENATOR JACOBS: Thank you, Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) On a verified roll call, the Ayes are 20, the Nays are 25, and the amendment fails. Are there further amendmen*s, Mr. Secretary? SECRETARV HARRV: Amendment No. 5: offered by Senator Madigan. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) senator Madigan. EENATOR MADIGAN: Thank ycur Mr. President. Floor Anendment No. 5 to House 3il1 25 <s1c> is technical, and I would move for its adoption. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) j Is khere discussion? If not: Senator Madlqan moves the I 24 t-.---- ------. ----.- ---- ---. -. ' '-  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 adoption of Floor Amendment 5 to House Bill 2108. All in favor: signlfy by saying Aye. Senator Jacobs.

What does this technical amendment do, and hoF does this not disrupt the the delicate balance of this bill?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madigan.

Well, no: actually this preserves the delicate balance of the Task Force work, in that it's a highly technical amendment structured so that the agreement insofar as the surtax that Was -- is part of the agreement is preserved in House Bill 2108.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs.

So we are saying a special surcharge for Arlington is being preservedy is that correct?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madigan.

That's correct.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs.

Again, the delicate balance. Thank you. PRE:IDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there further discussion? If notp Senator Madigan moves *he adopklon of Amendmen: No. 5 to House Bill 2108. A1l in favorr signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted . Further amendments, Mr. Secretary?

Amendment No . 6, offered by Senator Madiçan. 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Madiqan.

Thank you, Mr. President. Floor Amendment No. 6 deletes the electronic wagering language in the bill that I referred to earlier. would move for its adoption .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? If not, Senator Madtgan moves the adoption of Floor Amendnent No. 6 to House Bill 2108. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposedr Nay. The Ayes have The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

Amendment No. 6: Offered by Senators Molaro and Madigan.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Molaro.

Thank you, Mr. Presldent. This technical changey it just adds the words ''aE least''. Fairmount Park is supposed to -- race a hundred and five days. This just says tha: if it's on a Saturday or Sunday, they could go to a hundred and six, bu* èhey have to have at least a hundred and five days of racing. It was a Eeehnical error that was left out in the original drafting of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? not -- Scnator Jacobs.

just Want to add, m9, this is a good amendment. Thls is *he only other amendment that I have seen on this bill that actually has anything Eo do With live raclng, and I think we should support it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there further discussion? If not: Senator Molaro moves *he 26  I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 adoptlon of Floor Amendment No. 8 to House Bill 2108. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the anendment's adopted. Are there further amendments, Mr. secretary? SECRETARY HARRY: No further amendments reported, Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator DeAngelisr on 2151 <sic> (2251)7 Read the billy Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY: ' House Bill 2251. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Readlng. Senator Mahar, on 2294? Out cf the record. Senator Mahar, do you wish to recall House Bill 41 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment? We're going to the Order of 3rd Readlngs on the top of page 5. Senator Mahar seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 41 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Hearing no -- no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 41. Mr. Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration? SECRETARX HARRY: Amendment No. 3, offered by Senator Karpiel. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WZAVER) senator Karpiel. SENATOR VARPIEL: I need a crane to pull this...l can't move it. Thank you, Mr. President. The -- what it -- Amendment No. 3 -- Floor Amendment 3 to House Bill 41, what it does is it reduces the number of the ICC, khe Illinols Commerce commissioners, from seven to five. It 27 ' l . ,  I ETATE OF ILLINOIS ' 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1 REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I ; 55th Legislative Day May 22p 1995 terminates tbe term of office of a1k existing commissioners and creates new terms for new appointees. It reduces the number of full-time assistants from three to two, and then it mandates a report on technology developments. And basically, that's what the amendment does. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH: Mr. President -- thank -- thank you. This is an amendment that was before the Senate last week and we defeated. It's up again; tt's the same amendment; and it's just as bad as it was before. A few days a:o I had an article from the Chicago Tribune passed out that some of you may have on your desk. And the reason is this is a bad amendment, because, number one, it's a -- an attempE to lncrease the salary of the Comnerce Commission members, reduce it by two members, have everybody resign so that they can get their pay raise. lt's going to result ln a twelve-percent increase for each of the members -- for the Chalrman, and an eighteen-percent increase for the commissioners themselves. Thls is alleged to be a savingsy but it's really not. It 's a false economy. There will be more salary going to the members. There will be less efficiency by the Commission. And I think that We should defeat this amendment. So I -- I would urge us to vote No . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there further dlscussion? If not, Senator Karpiel, to close. SENATOR KARPIEL: Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to refuEe just a couple of comments. This is not a -- midterm raise for the conmissioners. The Compensation Review Board is the one that recommended the raises that's already been put in place, but these commissioners would no* receive it wben they're appolnted mid 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 term. The Comptroller's Office -- the Comptroller never gives a salary lncrease ln midtern. Sc the purpcse of the bll1 is not to get pay increases for commissloners. The purpose of the -- of *he amendment is actually to save mcpey and to have a more streamlined Commission. Now that there's so much deregulation, We dan 't need the seven membersr and five will do just fine. And I ask for your Aye vote. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel was closingr Senator Welch. The question is the adoption of floor Amendment No. 3 to House Bill 41. Those in ' favor will say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have 1t. The amendment's adopted. Senator Welch has requested a roll call. Those in favor of Amendment No. 3 to Senate -- House B1l1 41 will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voked who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who Nish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 34r the Nays are 23r none votlng Present. The amendment is adopted. Are there further amendments? Madam Secretary? ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments rgportpd, Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. Senator Karpiel seeks leave to bring House Bill 90 back to the Order of 2nd Reading. Is there leave? Leave is granted. On the Order cf 2nd Reading is House Bill 90. Madam Secretaryr are there Floor amendments approved for consideration? ACTING SECRETARX HAWKER: Amendment No . 1, offered by Senator Karplel. PRE:IDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL: Thank you, Mr. President. As the bill came over to the Eouse, House Bill 90 amends the Airport Authorities Ac* to provide that 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22g 1995 commlssioners -- oh, I'm sorry. I'm looking at *he wrong -- wrong stuff. provides that before the Dupage Airport Authority can pass its budget and certify its levy to the county clerk, the budget must first be approvqd by the county board. The amendment -- the amendment that we have added in committee is to put the renumeratlon <sicl for those commissioners back into thq bill. The House sponsor is in agreement with that, and I ask for your Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? Senator Shaw .

1111 yield tn Sgnator Colling.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Collins.

Thank you, Madam <sic> Chair. Senator -- and let me -- let me just say that this morning when this -- when the amendment came before the committee, we had not had time to really look at the amendment, and since that time, we have reviewed this amendment and I -- for the life of me, cannot understand Why are we paying ten thousand dollars for the members of this board. Now, a11 of the other authority board people are paid something like the max is around eighteen hundred dollars a month. And given a11 of the negative publicity and the fact that these people were -- were on bcard when al1 of the problems were happening kith this airport, and God knows they are just *oo numerous to articulate here with a1l of the wrongdoings and investigations, and don't thlnk it lt it sets a sood policy to the people for us Eo raise Eheir salaries under this -- under these ccndikions. HoN could you ask us to -- to raise their salaries and to pay them a salary now for screwing up so badly? And heaven knows they haver so there 's no doube about We -- we are not willing to do 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89T5 GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 ' ! I that: because I think it's irresponsible. Ncw , these people who - - who -- Who made and was responsible for the mismanagement and the misuse of the funds of that Authority - Airport Authority - should not be aompensqted - at all. We should be reducing their salaries Eo -- to one dollar. They should have a obligation to stay thete, to work it through and -- and until the federal investigations are completed and look into investisating that Alrport wrongdoing themselves. We passed an amendment out here calling for an investigation of O'Hare Airport, and yetr we did not see fit for *he State of Illinois to get involved ln that Airport. Naw We Want to reward these pecple by giving them a ten-thcusand-dollar salary a year. That's the Wrong thing to do.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) senator Cullerton.

Yes. Senator Karpiel/ would you -- sponsor -- gould the sponsor yield for a questkon?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) :he indicates she will.

The -- the interesting thing I find is that the -- the Housq bill, I assume, Was sponsored by your SEate Representative who represents the area, and apparently lt's ln their -- thelr intention to remove the salary for the commissioners. I'm just curious if you know how they will react to this amendment which attempts to undo his bill, and is this something which would so to a conference committee, or are they soiag to agree With this amendment? Do you have any idea?

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

All right. First of all, if I could answer along with that -- 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 ! respond also to some of the previous comments. We are not giving I th 1 ese commissloners a pay increase. They are now betng reimbursed 1 at this rate. That will not change. What the Hcuse bill did when it came over was to remcve the salary. We are putting it back in here in the House Ksic>, and 1.11 get to that in a minute, but we are not raising any salary for anybody. This is what they noW -- is now in the Statute. Senator Cullerton, as far as my Hcuse Member, I've talked to him this mcrning and he is in agreement, and 1et me tell you why . This may not be a perfect bill the Way he nor I would like to see it. We passed a bill out of this Senate that was Senator Philip's billr that did a great deal mcre than thls bill does, and it uas a good billr buk iE is being held up in the House. My House Member and I both feel very strongly that something has :ot to be done about the Dupage Airport's excessive spendins. If this is not a perfect bill, at least, perhaps, we can pass it and the major part of the bill is the part that puts thelr budget under the county board. And I would think all of you on that side of the aisle who are complaining about the Dupage Airport would be glad to see an effort being made to do that, to have somebody other than themselves be able to approve thelr budget and levy . That's why we are -- I am sponsoring this amendment. I am hoping to get lt through. It will go back ta the House. My House Menber will concur. And 1 ask for your Aye vote, if there are no more questions.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Cullerton.

res. Senator Karplel, thank you. What you 're sayinq isr I guess, then, that the -- the House sponsor is Willing to compromise and to aecept your amendment to put the -- the salary i back to whece it -- Where it is now. I understand Eha: the bill, I i as introduced, was krying to send a -- a very strong message to I I 32  STATE OF ILLTNOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 i I the Dupage Airport Authority members that We're -- first of all, theyfre not going to be able to approve their -- their budget, and secondly, that they're goinq to not get any compensation at all. HoWever, it may be -- in llght of the fact thatr as Senator Philip indicated, they are under a federal investigation, it may be worthwhile to look and see hoW their salaries compare to other salaries cf other highway and -- other airport authorities. And from what I understand, they -- the -- the other airport authorities can receive no mcre than a hundred and fifty dollars per month. So I understand that maybe you don't Nant to take away their salary altogekher, bu* this is putting it right back at a -- at a number which is probably too high to begln wiEh . So I think maybe -- until the federal investigation is over, maybe it would be nice to have them not have any salary: unless you want ta compromise and give them what other airport authorities are giving. So if the amendment doesn 't get on, We're stillr I gould think, all in Cavor of passing the bill. And so, I think that it would be appropriate to have a No voke on the amendment and then vote for the bikl. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Shaw . Is there further discussion? If not, Senator Karpiel, to close. SENATOR KARPIEL: Thank you, Mr. President. Senator Cullerton, I did do some research and I also found out that a hundred and fifty dollars a month is *hP most ehat any other airport pays, especially in the category of alrport general aviation that this one is in. And my original bill that I introduced Way back, it d(d have that stipend in it. We are now a: the eleventh hour, and we are tWo days before -- wellz a day before the last day we can get bills out of this Chamber, and my House Member and 1, while neither one of us are particularly in favor of this, feel that we would rather have I 33 ' . )  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legiskatkve Day May 22, 1995 I *he bill Ehan lose it agatn, because year aftpr year we have lost I I bills on this -- on Ehls Eopic. And soy I would -- I Would rathpr have it in this form to fight that battle maybe at another day and ab least to be able to get their budgeE under somebody's oversight. Right now, it isndt. And if it takes this amendment -- this amendment was requested by the Senate President, and I acquiesced to hlm . And so I would ask for your Aye voter a1l of you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel moves the adoption of Floor Amendment No. l to Rouse 3111 90. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye . Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Been a request for a roll call. Those in favor will vote Aye. And opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who Wish? Have all voted Nho wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 33, the Nays are 25, none voting Present. The amendment ls adopted. Are there further amendments, Madam Secretary?

No further amendments reported, Mr. Fresident.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Reading. WICS-TV requests permission to videotape. Is there leave? Leave is granted. For what purpase does Senator Raica arise?

A point of perscnal privllege, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) State your...

Thank you. Mr. Presidentr in the rear of the gallery on the Democrat side is the graduating class of 1995 for the Summit -- I ory St. Joseph School in Summit: who are Visiting Springfield I I today: and I Would just ask Ehak they stand and be recognized and 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I Eha: the Body give them a Warm gelcome.

PRESIDISG OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Will our guests please rise. Welcome to Springfield. Senator O 'Malleyr on 207? Out of the record. 225. Senator O'Malley? 0ut of the record . Senator Petkar on 301? Out of the record. Senator Cullerton, on 320? Senator CullerEon? You wish the bill read a third time? Out of the record. Senator Watson, on 3307 Out of the record. Senator Maitland, on 385? Out of the record. Senator DeAngelis, on 527? Out of the record. senator Parker, on House Bi1l 652? Senator Parker seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 652 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Is there leave? Leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Readlng is House Bill 652. Madam Secretaryy are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendmenk No. 1, offered by Senator Parker.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Packer. SENATOR PARKERI Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendnent No. 1 deletes the bill and allows the Prisoner Review Board to reschedule parole hearings every three ygars, rather Ehan annualty, if at the denial of parole, the Board determines that it is not reasonable to expect that parole would be granted prior to the scheduled hearing date. I Would ask for a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (VENATOR WEAVER) Is there discussion? If not, the question isf shall the Senate adopt Floor Amendment No . l to House Bi1l 652. A1l in favory signify by saying Aye. Oppcsed, Nay. The amendment's adopted. Are there further amendments?

No further amendments reported, Mr. President. I 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMPLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th begislative Day May 22r 1995

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 3rd Readinç. Senator Cronin, on 8387 Out Ehe record. Senator Karpiel: on 955? Read the bikl, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 955. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

Thank you -- thank you: Mr. President. Well, this is the bill that I'm sure most of you have heard a great deal about in the last few weeks. It's the House version of the Parental Notification Bill. I'm sure you all remember Senate Bill 836, Which We passed aut of here a feN weeks ago, which created the Parental Notice of Abortion Act. Well, House -- House Bill 955 is a slmilar bill, but there are differences. These dlfferences have caused b0th of these bills to be caught up in political wrangling between the House and Senate and between different sets cf pro-life groups, pro-choice peoplep a Whole -- groups of people that have been fighting over the differences in these billsr which think is extremely unfortunate. But first of all, 1et me tell you about the two major differences. In Senate Bill 836, the notificatîon must be given to a parent or guardian. In this b111# we have expanded that to include stepparents who live the home or grandpareats. And I think the reason for thaE is fairly obvious - obvious that many parents -- many fanilles today are -- include stepparents and also the many chlldren that now lfve in households that are headed by grandparents. Grandparents-headed households have increased by more than fifty percent. There are now 3.4 million minors living households headed by grandparents. That's Why they were included, so that there could 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22r 1995 I I bepropernotificationgiventouhomeveris*he chikd's guardian 1 or parent or whoever is headinq up that household. The other difference is -- deals with the doctors. In Senate Bill 836, the complaint - if there is a complaint - that a doctor has done an abortion without the notification, in 836 that complaint is made to the Attorney General or the State's attorney who then may - and I emphasize ''may'' - bring civil action against a physlclan once the findings are all in. There then is a penalty imposed for the first violation of -- I believe it's a thousand dollars and five thousand for the second. In House Bill 955, the complaint is made ko *he State Medical Disciplinary Board who shall recommend civik penalties and other appropriate discipline to the Department of Professional Regulations, and the penalties are exactly Ehe same. These are the tWo major differenees between tbese two bills. Bu* let me emphasize the simillrities. The similarity ls that basically eaeh one of these bills is supposed to :et at an issuer at a problem, and that is notification. If a child - a minor chlld - is -- is to have an abortion in the State of Illinois, what We are saying with both of Ehese bills is that notification must first be given to a parent, a -- legal guardian, the grandparent or stepparent, so that these children cannot just go to a doctor and ge* major surgery performed on her without the knowledge of a close family memberr or a guardian, or Who's ever Eaking care of that child. I think it's a good blll. I'm sorry that I -- it has gotten all involved in other Ehinqs. There are well-meaning people on b0th sides of the issue of Ehese twc btlls, but lqt's noE forget that the major reason for the blll is Eo give noEification. And thls bill does that, and I ask for your Aye 1 vote. I . PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENANORWEAVER) 1 j I Is there discussion? Senator Palmer. 1 I SENATOR PALMER: I 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22y 1995 Thank you, Mr. Presldent. A question of khe sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) She indicates she would yield?

Senator Karpiel, how does this bill define ''minorn?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

'''Minor' means any person under 18 years of age Who is not or has not been married or who has not been emanclpated under the Emancipation of Mature Minors Act.''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Palmer.

Is it also correct then that anyone twenty-one years or older is now considered eligible to be reported to in -- as part of this Act? Reported tor as far as being the person told about the probable abortlon?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

Notification can be glven to the parent, grandparent, legal guardian or stepparent. there is anyone of those that's twenty-one years and older, suppose you could say yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senakor Palmer. SENATOR PALMER; To the bill: I am sure: as Senator Karpiel is, that there are well-intentioned people on b0th sides of this issue, and I am sure that the fact that Senator Karpiel has brough: Ehis bill Eo Ehe Floor after many, many weeks of not hearing from it and the fact tha: I see very few lights on suggesks thaE she has the votes for 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legkslatkve Day May 22, 1995 it. Let me suggest to your Members of this Bodyr that this is an unfortunate bill. asked the question about who is a minor, and Senator Karpiel gave me the answer *hat this is anyone eighteen years or younger. Let ne tell you Whom you're talking about. You are talking abcut young women who are already in college, who are already in Ehe workplace. Now, think about that. I have been an associate dean of students at a major unlversity, and I have spent a great deal of time With young wompn in this particular situation, whose parents were already paying large dollars for them to attend a university and who did not want to call a parent, who felt thatr by the fact that they were in such a university; they were old enough to make their oWn decislons. There ls a fundamenEal contradùction in thts btll. You are saying thatr in almost every other circumstance, these women are old enough to make their own decisions, but kn a choice that should be as personal as any choëce that ls madey that they are not o1d enough. NoW understand and I sympathize Nith What the intentions of the sponsor and others who are for this bill intend, and I am not going to go through the usual lktany of what we usually talk about, the difficulties that children who are ln abusive circunstances and others Would have With this. What I do not understand is why a Body that has spent now two years talklng about staykng out of pecple's business would get into the most personal business that someone has. This is Wrong . Tf thls Were a Norman Rockwell kind of world, bhen fine. ls not' Ladies and Gentlemen, and you are jeopardizing hundreds of Ehousands of Illinoiss youn: women and we should vote No on thls bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Petka.

For nOWy Mr. -- Mr. President, I uould like to yigld my time ko Senator O 'Malley. 1,11 if I'd like to speak after he's 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANGCRIPT I 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I ftnished. I ' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator O'Malley. ) SENATOR O'MALLEX: . Thank you , Mr. President. Would the sponsor yield for a question? ' PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) She indicates that she will. SENATOR O 'MALLEY: In -- in getting around to the question, Senator Karpiel, I want to just state that I know - and you and I have had discussions on numerous occasions concerning this legislation - I know that you have supported Senator Dillard 's bill, Senate 3i1l 836, and I also know how sincerely you are concerned about this issue and that is why ycu not only supported Senate Bill 836, but are the sponsor cf House Bill 955, which ls before us today. Would you tell me whether or not you know that -- that Senator Dillard 's blll, Eenate Bill 836, has been called for a vote in the House oc Representatives? And if it hasn 't beeny can you tell me when it is going to be called? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senatcr Earpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL: Well, Senator, it has not been called, tc my knowledge, and you'd probably get a more concrete answer from the Senate President, but it ls my understandlng they are going to be calling that bill today. As you know, we had originally hoped to call them simultaneously. Last Friday we were at that point, but it was late in the afternoon and many Members had left, sa We Waited for today. The House, as you knowy is havinq some -- 1ot of delaying tactics. It's very hard to time anything with the House. But I have been given the assurance that it is going to be called I 40 ' l .  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22r 1995 and called today. END OF TAPE TAPE 2

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator O'Malley. EENATOR OIMALLE7: Well, Senator Karpiel, I appreciate the answer and -- and that you have brought not only Ryself, but other Members of the Senate, up-to-date as to the status of -- of Senate Bill 836. But 1et me - - 1et me say something tc ycu not so much as a reminder, because you know itr but I -- let me make not only a record for it but remind other people Who are aware of it that this bill is out here on certain conditkons. IE's out here in front of this Senate because of the review that had in the Judiciary Committee of the Senate. Senator: as you feel fervently on thts issue, so da and I admire you very much for your interest and concern. However, in the Judiciary Committee, when this matter Was considered - and it was considered by both sides and khere were a 1ot of questions asked and you knew of my concerns before you came to the committee I spoke to you privately and then I spcke to you in voting as to conditions on which I would support to allow this bill out on Ehe Floor of the Senate. This bl1l had six votes in the Judiciary Committee. I Was one of those six votes, and as you know, required six votes to allow it cut on the Senate Floor. My conditions for allowing a Yes vote in conmittee could not have been clearer. They were these: that I would not have a condition or obligation to vote for this bill on the Floor; and 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 number two, that this bill would not be called by the sponsor until such time as Senator Dillard 's Senate bill was given the opportunity to be heard and voted on in the Illinois House of Representatives. For that reason, Senator, I remind you of those conditions and I would ask you to consider why you are considering this bill before the Senate at this time. 1, for one, have never done this beforey but I'm going to do it now. Each of us at cur desk has a key, and tha: key turns on our switch, and we cannot vote unless that key is turned. T lntend Ko deliver my key to the Secretary of the Senate, and I have no desire Whatsoever to vote on this bill until such time as the House of Representatives allows Senator Dillard's bill Eo have an opportunity to be heard, an opportunlty that they have had ample time to consider. Thank ycu very much.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Petka.

Wellr thank you very muchy Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senator O 'Malley has stated very succlnctly what had occurred in the Judiciary Committee. The bill got out of the Judlciary Committee kith six votes. Senator O 'Malley was one of those who voted for the bill. I was one of those who voted for the bill under the same conditions. I would -- I have a great deal of respect for the sponsor of this legislation, and I think that she knows that. But I do believe, Senator, that a person's Word is his band. And in a situation like this, I would simply like to ask you, as one Member to anothery to live up Eo the condlEions of thaE vote EhaE was kaken, *he -- and conditions that you subscribed to in the -- in the Judiciary Committee, and then take this bill out of the record.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Colllns. 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995

Question of the sponsory please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) She indicates she would yield.

Senator Rarpiel -- Senator, is there anything this bill that would protect a girl who notifies -- whose parent has been notified of her requesting an abortion, would anything be in here eo prokece her righe to proceed ko have *he abortion, even over the objection of a parent?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karplel.

Well, Senator, first of all, this is not a parental consent bill, so sbe can still have an abortion even if her parents do not want her to. Ik's just a parental notification bill. And secondlyr there is a judicial bypass in this bill that she can access if she feels she doesn 't want to go to her parents and notify. There are -- there are ways in this bill to have a judicial bypass of that.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Eenator Collins.

Wellr first of allr 1et me just speak to -- to the broad issue a few minutes and then to the bill. Unlike my learned colleagues I think: Senator Palmer - I'm not so sure that the people on both side of this issue are of soodwill in this stru:gle and have - - have exhibit goodwill and concerns about the welfare of the women involved who needs to obtain an abortion. learned from experience - very blatant, negative experience - that among these groups are a bunch of self-serving women who will stcp at nothing to promote their side of this issue, on both sides. Absolutely on 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55*h Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I I tenure here. I have stood tall on fightln: for the rights - the I rights - of women to have a free choice to have an abortian. And I have met cpnsistently with the leaders of the various groups to ask them to help me with one problem that is probably more unique to pcor Women, youn: women - many of Ehe pecple that I represent - than to other groups, and that is the problem wlth young girls, I twelve, thirteen, fourteen years oldy who seek out an abortion I j I without any support or notification to their parent, without I I having adequate medical records - many have never seen a doctor I I since they had their baby shots - and often end up into serious complication after the abortion because they go home w1th no one, unsupervised, and many times end up hemorrhaqing. It has happened over and over again, and the county keeps some records of it. I've asked them to come up with some way to ensure that these girlsy when they do l/ave the clinicr are in the custody of someone adult that is responsible and will be there with them so that just in case there is some complication and some follow-up. But you know what? They don't care. They truly do not carg about the welfare of these girls. They wouldn'k even talk ta ne. They proceeded to publicize a11 kind of negative materkals because I keep silent on this issue, and I will remain silent until we do something about babies going to those clinics and coming -- and I'm not talkkng about fifteen and over. I only ask for those babies fourteen and under. They should not be allowed to go there and then come home unsupervised, and many times these kids end up into hospttals, destroyinq any financial hope that that family may have to send their kids to college. A friend of mine even lost a home. Thah is wrong. I don't care Nhat anybody said; that is wrong. This bill goes too far, Senator' because it goes beyond a level where a girl can be responsible When you talk about eighteen years old, so that's What's wrons wiEh Ehis bill. But I can I 44  STATC OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBL? REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22w 1995 assure you you come up uith a bill that says fourteen and under, Earlean Collins will be right here voting for you in support of that billr and for that reason, I will vote Present.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. Xou knou, I.m supposed to be pro-choice, although some of the pro-choige people may -- may not think so, but I w111 tell you, what we are talking about are thirteen- and fourteen-year-old girls. The average age of an unwed mother in this State is fourteen years old . takes nine months to have a child. What you are talking about is an eighth grader being pregnant. In my district, what is happening are the boys are passing the hat, hopping on a train with a girly because they're not o1d enough to drive a car yet, and going lnto one of these clinics without any notification of the parents. I voted fcr the other bill. voted for Senator Dillard 's bill. I want a notification bill passed and signed . Anybody who has gone over to the HBlue Zoo'' knows that that's exactly What it is over there. They may have the greatest intentions of the world of calling Senator Dillard 's bill, and blessings be upon them lf they do, bu* that process has almost eome to a standstill. What we are going to do is What has happened time and time and time again, where we have had two pro-life groups fighting with each other because both of them want creditr neither one of them will give, and thGn they can b0th go home now lf we fail to pass thls and posslbly say, nWe11, we tried. But guess what? We didn't get a notification bill passed .'' If we don 't pass this billr there's a darn good chance nokhing is going to be passgd again. It's happened before; it'll bappen this Eime. And anybody that doesn't think it'll happen has nct been in the Assembly lon: enouqh to see happen time and time again. We ought to be voting for this bill. I plan 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22: 1995 on voting fcr this bill, as I voted for Senator Dillard's bill. I don 't care which one is slgned. I want a parental notification bill passed, signed and the law of the land, and I will guarantee you that's what the vast majority of our constituents want too.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Dillard.

Thank youy Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. My name's been nentioned several times during the debate here. Would the sponsor yield for a couple of questions, please?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) She indicates that she would.

Senator Karpielr is there anything, ln terms of the grandparent notice provision of this bill, that would restrict the notificatkon gotng to a -- going to a grandparent who at one point in time in their life had seen that grandchild?

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Dillard.

Would it be possible under your bill, Senatcr Karpiel, to no*lfy a grandparent that lives on the North Pole or in Europe or in Australia? ! PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) I 1 senator Karpiel. j SENATOR RARPIEL: ! r Yes. I !

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) 46 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22, 1995 Senator Dillard. I i I Would it be possible to give notice to a grandparent that I nigbt be senile or faced with Alzheimer's or in a coma? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Xarpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL: Staff tells me that common 1aW would probably presuppose that the grandparenk Would have to be competent. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Dillard. SENATOR DILLARD: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen. To the b111: I very reluctantly rise in, I guess, opposition to this piece of legislation. I'm not going to vote No . I Wl11 probably vote Present on this. As the sponsor of what I call the more pristinely drafted Senate Bill 836, which passed this Body pretty easily a few Weeks agor 1et me tell you ny three objections with this bill. My first objection, as I stated ln my questioning I believe, is that notification to a grandparent under this bill I could be to a grandparent anywhere in the world, one that has I never seen their granddaughter, one that wouldn't know thetr granddaughter's medical hlstory, and very inportantly, I believe, unlike the answer to the question I recelved frcn the sponsor, especially ln a forty-eight-hour notice period, that a notiee could be sent to a grandparenk that's in a coma in a nursing home or certainly one not in a position to help their grandchlld . Secondly, very importantly, the notice requkrements under thls to j I the state of Illinois does not have what 836 did, and thaE's where I I W b econfidentiallykeeptrackoftheEypesofexceptions that are j I eing done by doctors out there on -- on performing abortion on I I ninors. And mosE importantlyr most importantly -- and I know the I I 47 - - 2- - - - ' .- J . . ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I sponsor of this bill, very much like I do, wants a parental notification bill to pass, but I would submit that we 're better off With no bill and Would save taxpayers' money rather than to pass this. This bill is really a sham. In the intent Section of this bill, ln the preamble Section of this bill - unlike my billp which was drafted with the assistance of many lawyers that have been in court on these types of actions - in Ehls bill, nowhere does it say that the State's interest in the legislation is to protect the best interest of a ninor. I believe that that language was deliberately removed by a number of prc-choice leg islators over in the House and that some of the Members - and it's not Senator Karpiel, who didn't draft this bill, but some of the House Members - were literally snockered into removing that intentionally from the preamble. So I believe that we are better off with no bill at al1 or going back to the drawing board here in the next few days to craft a decent bill. This isnst a parental natification of abortion bill, as it says on tbe board; it's grandparents, and it's much broader than that. So if you 're one like me that belteves tn parental nottce -- I believe ln grandparent notice where it's a loving srandmother or qrandfather who has some nexus, not even necessarily the guardian of the child, or -- or the -- notice to a legal guardian ktself is the way to go. This isn 't a parental notice bkll. It has loopholes to drive a truck through, and I believe Ne're better aff rejecting this and either golng back to the drawing board or not wasting taxpayer dollars to have Ehls thrown ou* in court. An8 I'd either urge a Present vote or, as Senator O'Malley sugçestedr just abstaining. Thank you, Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Molaro. SENATOR MOLARO : Tbank you, Mr. President. To the bill: I -- 1 voted on this 48 . ) . '  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY RCGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day M8X 22: 1995 in committee because I wanted to brlng it to the Floor and see I what the debate was, and it's been an interesting debate. I -- I ' i can't figure out and I'm trying to get the politics of itr how you I 1 can have people who are devout pro-lifers screaning against this blll, saying it's horrtbte and it should be a No. Then you have lifelong pro-choicers Who get up screaming against this bill and saying we should voke No. Well, I fulfilled ny commitment by voting Yes and bringing it to the Floor, but I think we should probably take it out of the record because it seems like it's *he type of bill -- or, type of issue that you can't mcderate. Either -- either 838 Isic> should pass or it shoukd fail, and I just think that it's a noble attempt -- this bill is a noble aEtempt on the part of some peaple Erylng to second-çuess, or I should say ftrst-guess, What the Governor's golng to do. Will he -- will not sign 838 <sic>? Will he -- will not sign this? I think it is a - - is a great attempt by the sponsor and some people Eo get something that the Governor can sign, but I think it's a failed attempt. And some of the people Who were going to vote Yes are now golng to vote Present, as I see, because you can't mediate something this important. It's too bad, as Legislatures, we have I to vote on abortlcn blllsy but I guess if We're foreed to vote on I them, it should be something with teeth in it so we coukd have a I I Yes or a No and a true debate. And I think thls bl1l puts l I everybody else in the wrong direction, instead of bringing them I *ogether. So maybe we should take this out of the record. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Raica. I SENATOR RAICA: 1 Mr. President, will the sponsor yield for a question? I 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR NEAVER) j Sh I e indlcates that she Will. I 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995

Senator Karpiel, states the minor declares in writin: this is, guess, with the waiver if the minor declares writing that she is a victim of sexual abuse, neglect, or physical abuse by a family member, says the attending physician must certlfy the patlent's medical record EhaE he or she has received the written declaration of abuse or neglgct. Ncw , assuming that that is one way that the minor would get out of having one of the parents notified by the physician of the of the abortion. My question to you is: Could the juvenile go to the physician and say that she is a victim of child abuse, neglect, or sexual abuse and receive this waiver without any questions or anything being asked for the sole purpose of just getting the abortion performed?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

Well: Senatcr, it is -- the minor must declare ln Writing that she is a victim of sexual abuse, neglect, or physlcal abuse by an adult family member. The attending physician must certify in the patient's medical record that he or she has received the written - - declaration of abuse or neglect, and any notification of public authorities of abuse that may be required under other laws of this State need not be made by the person performing the abortion until after the minor receives an abortion that otherwise complies with *he requirements of *he Ac*. Eo she has Eo do thaE writlng; the doctor has to certlfy that...

PREGIDING OFFICER: (EENATOR WEAVER) Senator Raica.

So: Senator, I'm assuming what -- what We're saying is that *he minor could, in fact, have had sexual contact With some 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 person, fabricate about their parents regardlng sexual abuse, sexual -- neglect or abuse, period. The physician uould be thereby obligated to perform the abortionw and not until after the abortion is performed would any type of if I want to use the word ''background'' it's probably an incorrect word - of any type of investigation or step forward be taken or research be taken to see whether, ln fact, this minor is fabricating or# in fact, the allegations against the family member is true. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

Senatorr J I believe that is so, but I also want to say that it's the same requlrement that's in the other -- Senate Bill 836.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Raica.

0ne last question, Mr. President, if I may. Senatcr Karpiel, I'm not mistaken, Senator Dillard 's bill there was a provision that stated the child -- it was an abuse or -- or a criminal act, that the proper reports would have to have been nade the police reports would have to have been made with the appropriate departmenbs. Is the physician, upon receivin: notice from the minor of the possibility of abuse or neglect on a family member, would he be then abligated to take the neyt step, and that is to notify the proper authorities of what he was being informed was a child abuser sexual abuse or neglect case?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpiel.

Senakor, I believe the repor*ing requirements on that are *he Same in both of the parental notification bills. Staff informs ne 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislattve Day May 22, 1995 that you may be confusing that w1th the -- with the requirements under the Medicald fundlng bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Lauzen.

Thank you, Mr. President. As the sponsor knows, have both affectlon and respect for her. I do have a question. When Senator O 'Malley and Senator Petka have testified that their votes committee to allow this to the Floor was conditional on the prior or simultaneous consideration of Senate Blll 836, let me ask this as gently as I possibly can: Can you share your thoughts and reason why you Would not draw out of the record?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karplel. SENATOR KARPIELI Welly first of all, neither Senator O'Malley nor Senator Petka asked me to take it out of the record. That just -- did Senator Petka say that? I'm sorry, Senator Petka. didn't -- didn't hear you say that until Senator Molaro did. Let me clear up What happened in committee. I've been in this General Assembly for sixteen years. One of the first Ehings learned when I came here was that your word is your bond. don't think I have ever been accused of not keeping my word. In committeev it Was asked that not call the bill until Senate Bill 836 was called in the House. said I would not call the bill until Senate Bill 836 was called ln the House unless we got to the end of Session and i: sEill was not calledr and then I didn't know What I could possibly do# because I cannok control *he House and i*s agenda and its Eime table. have taken this bitl out of the record. I've passed it over on 2nd Reading four tines. I finally moved it to 3rd, when I got the okay to do so. have passed kt over stx times on 3rd Reading. I have waited. have waited. Tomorrow is *he last day 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22y 1995 l to hear bills. I was assured by my Leadershlp that it is going to I i be called -- 836 is going to be called in the Housg. We even have arrangements made for what We could possibly do if for some reason this bill passes and that qne does not get called. We have a -- I we have tried to cover a1l contingencies. I have Eried to keep my word of what I said in commiktee, and I have Eried, and I have talked to everybody involved many times and tried to get this process along.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Lauzen.

Thank you very much. You know, I -- I very much appreciate that explanationr and as usualr you make a great deal of sense. And I can see the perspective of where you 're coming from on that. Jus: one other thought, for the record, if I could just read a very brief letter from Grandparents Against 955 from May 15th of '95. It says: Dear Senator, Please vcte No on House Bill 955. Don't put us in the middle. To us, this bill isn't about abortion; lt's about familfes. And much as we wan: -- and mueh as we want what is best for our grandchildren, we don 't want the State 1aw pitting us against our children in hoW they conduct their family life. If doctors should have to notify anyone before performing an abortion on a minor, it should be Ehe parent and only the parents. Please realize what a terrible situation House Bill 955 would put us into. If we were notified that our granddaughter was seeking an abortion: wha: would we be expec*ed t I o do With that information? If we call our granddaughter and I I talk with her, We'd be going behind her parents' backs. If we ) call her parenEs and tell Ehem, we'd be inEerfering wlkh our i I I grandchild's own relationship With her parents. If We just keep quiet and then our grandchild suffers medical complications, we would live the rest of our lives in guilt. Please don't give us 53 ' . . - - ' '''  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22p 1995 I I the responsibility in a situation Where We have no authority. I Don't put us in the middle. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Palmer. .

Thank you, Mr. President. I apologize for rising a second time, but I have been listening to the debate and I Want you to think about this. There's one thing in there -- there is a joke, whieh I can't remember fortunatelyr but you cannot be partially pregnant. There is something inevitable about pregnancy. You either don't have the baby or you have the baby. sc that everythins around that has to be considered. Think about thls bill. First of all, if an abortion is to be performed, then you are asking a physician to violate the confldenkiality between patient and physician. If an abortion is to be performed, there has to be a report to the Department of Public Hea1th. If an abortion is not to be performed, then a young person, a young womans between whatever age and eighteen must go to a court for a judicial bypass. Now: let's say that the person chooses to have the baby but is indigent. This Body has already said no more welfare. Now, what do you intend for this young person to do with this baby? If the young person has the baby and is not indigent, then you are asking the grandparents and tbe parents, whom Senator Lauzen just spoke about, to take the financial responsibllity for this new baby. The emphasis fs on the Wrong end. You are asking that the General Assembly legislate family relationshlps. Tha: cannot be done. You don't want sex education in the schools. You don't want any of the counseling that is necessary. This is the wrong way to do it. We have no business interferlng in Ehis. Le* it alone and vote No on this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Jacobs. 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995

Mr. Presldent: I move *he previous questlon. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR WEAVER) senator, there are two more speakers, so we will allow them to speak. Senator Geo-Karis.

Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, a grandparent doesn't have to take an active part in it. The crux of this whole thing is this: whether we are for parental consent. I am for parental consent. I'm not for abortion, except to save the life and health of the mother and in rape and incest cases. And as a prior assistant State's attorney, I handled rape and incest cases. Rape and incest from a child's own father, where the mother doesn't even want to admit it. Now. I think this has been a reasonable bill, and someone has objected that the penalties are too light for the doctors. Well, 1'11 tell you, when a doctor can lose his llcense or have it suspended if he violates this 1aw -- this bill, that's more serious, I think, to his profession and to himself than having him guilty of a misdemeanor. I thlnk wedve qot to use some common sense and balance and reason. We cannot get out af this Legislature if We don't have, I think, a decent blll on parental notice. The other bill may go on into the Governor, and he may no* siqn i*. We know the Governor's been pro-choice. And by the way, there are two pro-life groups here. The Illinois Federation for Life is a group that wants this bill. The other pro-life is against ik, which I think is a bunch of garbage. Why in the heck don't they get togetherr if they 're really serious? Or they're trying to make a political football out of this Whole matter. If you're really for parental consent, then vote for the bill, but don't give me the mishmash that we don 't like the bill because We're one group. I have never heard such nonsense in my life. And I call tell you 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMPLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22, 1995 that people who are pro-life in my district have notified me to suppcrt 955. I think it's a decent bill. It's a reasonable bill, and as reasonable peopley we should look at it with reason, instead of getting carried away with our particulaç philosophies. And I can tell you right now that I think -- I think it's wrong when we forget about it forget about the common sense of balance and the reason. support this bill, and I urge al1 of you tc support PRESIDING OFFICERJ (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate. think everybody kho is a parent - everybody who is a parent should vote Aye on 955. You know, I hear thisr ''We11, too strong; can't vote for it.l' ''It's too Wgak; can't vote for it.'' I've heard more cop-outs than I've heard in a long time. Let me suggest this to you, and I have four children - three boys and a glrl - that with my kids in high school, they were going to give them an aspirln - an asplrin - they wculd call and ask pernission. When you want your dauqhter's ears pierced, you have to have written permission. Now we're talking about an abortion. Llfe threatening . You mean to tell me that the doctor, the hospital or the clinic should not notify the parent, *he guardlan, the grandparent? Why don't we once in a while think of the kids? This thing ought to f1y out of here with 57 votes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) Senator Karpielz to close.

Well, Ehank you, Mr. presidgn*. I think Sgnator Philip did a very good job of closlng. Dutr first of all, let me answer a few of the -- or comment on a few of the comments EhaE were made. Senator Dillard is concerned that notification night be given to a  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 parent -- I mean: a grandparent who lives in the North Pole or in a nursinq home and has Alzheimerls. The reason that grandparents are being put into this bill is because today, unfortunately, so ( many of the parents might as Well be living op the North Pole or have Alzheimer's. They lre either on drugs, alcohol; they're not in Ehe home; Ehey dre abustve, perhaps. Theydre no* caring for their children, and the grandmother or the grandfather is. So you can have as many incompetent parents as you can have incompetent grandparents. I don 't think khat kha: argument holds water. I've been in this General Assembly for sixteen years, and over those years, we have had many attempts at parental notification. And whaE SenaEor Philip said ls true. A11 paren*s should be concerned that the system, not doctors - nameless, faceless doctors - but the system , the Stater the government allows their children to have major surgery - major surgery - done on them without any investigation or any knowledge of their medical history, their famtly 's medical history. We can't give medication in schools Without havlng schccl nurses do it, but we are -- but the State allows major surgery done on our children. And for al1 these sixteen years, we 've had bills and we've tried, and we knew when we started that we weren't going to get very close. And tWo years agoy we got close, and the same wrangling killed the bills - b0th of them - then. And now we're involved in it again. Over eighty-five percent of the residents and the constltuents and the voters of this State believe in parental notification. They don't belteve Eha: the S*a*e should be able to do these things to their daughters Without their knowledge. Please let's not fail agalnr like we did two years ago and for a11 these years. We're so close. Let's get a bill passed. A1l of our surrounding states have them: Wisconsin, Kentucky, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri: Minnesota. They all have a parental notificatton 1aw of some klnd. Everything in this World can't be perfect. I know that 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22p 1995 I there are Members here who prefer Senate Bill 836. I do too , and I voted for it. But let's vote for this one too and see what we ! can get passed. Everything we do in Springfield is negotlation / and compromise. No one gets absolutely everythkng they want, but I let's get the kernel - the important part of this bill - passed: parental notificatlon. Let's let our constituents and our parents know that we think highly enough of their children that we won't 1et this be done to them without their knowledge. I ask for an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WEAVER) The question is, shall House Bill 955 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted Nho Wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 28, the Nays are l8, 9 voting Present. House Bill 955, having failed to receive the constituticnal majorityr is declared lost.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) On top of page 6 is House B111 965. Senator Woodyard? Ou* of the record. Senator Cronin, do you wish to have House Bill 999? Senator Cronin seeks leave of the Bcdy to return House Bil1 999 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment. Hearlng no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is I House Bill 999. Madam Secretary, there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 1, offered by îena*or Cronin.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Cronfny on Amendment No. 1. SENATOR CRONIN: I I Thank you: Madam Speaker: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment is purely technical in nature. It just merely adds an inmediate effective date. Ask for your favorable 58 . (  STATE OF ILLINOTS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th LegislaEive Day May 22r 1995 consideration.

PREEIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Senator Cronin Roves the adoption of Senate Amendment No. l to House Bill 999. A1l those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay . The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Are there any other Floor amendments approved for consideration?

No further amendments reported, Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 3rd Reading . Senator Raicar on House Bill 1108? Read *he bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1108. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Raica.

Tbank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. There was -- the underlying bill amends the Water Reclamation Act to prohibit that the -- any reservoir not greater than 10.2 <sic> (10.5) billion gallons not be put into the Mccook area. Currently, most lf not al1 the elected officials in that particular area would like it held at the lo.s-billion-gallcn capacity versus the twenty-billion-gallon capacity that the MWRD wants to go to. So it limi*s i: strictly Eo the Mccook Reservcir. The second amendment that we put on yesEerday wi*h my good frfend, Senator Viverito, Would require an elected MWRD - and that Was Floor Amendment No. 2 - and what it Would mean is that it Would require that the territory be divided into nine subdistricts and one trustee from eaeh would be elected beginning in 1996. And, Madam Presidenty With your permission, I Would like to yield to 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22y 1995 Senator Viverito so that he can explain the second portion of the ' I bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator -- are there -- iq there any discussion? Senator . I Viverito .

Thank you, Madam President. And my gocd friend, Senator Raica, I will do my best to explain the -- What this does is to elect into subdistricts with a population of approximately five hundred thousandr and a1l the terms will end in 1996. There are - - three of the elected officials are up in 1996, and I think that this will be the proper time to have the district into the single-member distrtct. I served for six years at *he Water Reclanation District. I understand the district, and it's -- it's a very good -- from an engineering standpoint, it's a very good district. The particular changes that I think have to take place is that when the district was formed - it's over a hundred years old - a11 of the population was in the City of Chicago. Today, most of the population is out in the suburban area . A1l of the locak santtary dlstricts outslde of Cook -- outstde of the City oë 2 Chicago are the responsibility of the local municipalities. There are probably almcst a hundred and twenty-five municipalities outside of the City of Chicagc that are being served right now. There are almost twenty-seven hundred employ:esr with an annual budget of well over five hundred and fifty million dollars. The only way possibly that a -- a Republican can get elected is by deathr and our good friend: Senator Walshr served on that district for a couple of years and did an excellent job. Well, I'm not trying to talk -- basically, I don't think it's a Republican or I Democratic issue. I Ehink lt's a good government lssue. I had I i tried to get this proposal out four years ago. Had worked diligently. I worked extremely hard in trying to convince the I ! 60 ' L .. .  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22, 1995 leaders at that time to go into the single-member district, but what happened was it -- it -- I don't know what happened, bu* they added another six or seven commissioners and it -- it just couldn't work out. I had wprked very hard fcr six years at the Water Reclamation District: and during my election in 1986 -- for re-election, unfortunately I was probably fourth or fifth cn the ballot. And it's becoming more of a popularity contest with nice-sounding names, rather than the substance of the individual who 's seeking the office. Today I saw and worked with the president of the sanitary district Who served there for fifteen years as the president, had a degree in chenistry from the University of Chicago. He was in the middle of ehe ballot and a young lady put her name up. She was number one on the ballot and knocked ouE an incumbent bhat had been there for almosE Ewenty years with a -- with a fine record . I -- I feel very strongly that both Republicans and Democrats ought to give this bill consideratlon, because very honestly, I recall when ehey were changing the name of the sanitary district they changed the name to the Water Reclamation District. It used to be named the Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago. The reason they changed the name, they told me, was that most people didn't know they were in the water reclamatlon; they thought they were in the garbage business. said, but they were coming from all over the world - Germany, Francer England - to vlew what the Water Reclamation District noW is calledy and they changed the name and that cost millions of dollars, and I Voted against that. I guess I Wasn't a team player. Thank ylu. 1'11 answer any questions I Ca n.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Walsh.

Thank you: Madam President and Members of the Senate. I stand 61  STATE OF tLLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22r 1995 in support of Senatcr Viverito's bill here, and I commend him on the hard work that he has put into this . And I also want to point I a eouple of things out, and I think that SenaEor Viverito did a nice job of doing it. On: thing that he pointed out about the -- khe distric: ls the lack of suburban representation. And when the sanitary district started over a hundred years agor it Was mainly I located in the City. Well now, as it has been built up over the years, kt includes al1 of Cook County and even some portions that are ouEslde of Cook Caunty. But what we have inherited in the suburbs is all of the treatment plants of the Wa*er Reclamatlon District, and there are seven o: them located throughcut -- throughout Cook County. Now, it's the old NIMBY policy and there are a 1ot of people in this Body that don't want anything such as a treatnent plant located in their district; however, again, when you're living in an urban area, you 're going to have somethln: like that. But my feeling is, is that if you 're going to have the water -- if you 're qoin: to have the treatmen: planE, you should also have some representation. And I believe that currently there is only one member of the Water Reclamation District out of nine that does live in the suburban area. And a11 thls bll1 is golng to go do is it's going to divide Cook County into nine districts, and each district is going to have a representative that is accountable. We just recently did this with the Cook County Board. I believe it was a good idea with the Cook County Board, and I think ib's a good idea With the -- With the Water Reelamation District. Andr Senator Viverito, I Ehlnk ViveriEo is a great namer and maybe wedll see IE there one more time, and I stand in full support of your bill here.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Shaw. SENATOR SHAW: 1 j Thank you, Madam President. I have some real grave 62 l .. -  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 reservations about Ehis -- about this piece of legislation. Nine districEs -- you fre cutting districts that's going to be larger than basic -- a congressional district. And certainly I think this bill should be about fairness. For the last three -- two yearsr I've been trying to do What this bill is attempting to do I herer and certainly, I think that the -- I think that the salaries should be reduced, and I think you should have passibly mcre districts, but there's enaugh. And having talked to the president last year and got the figures on it, under the plan that I'd introduced and I believe we passed it of Ehls Body here: we could have saved somewhere in the neighborhood of three hundred thousand dollars under the bill that passed this Body last year with fifteen districts. And I think that's the only way tc have good representation on -- at the districtr and I think that's what should be done. Even though this is *he only train seem to be on the track at the momentr I'm seriously considering this -- this billr and probably 1'11 make up my mind ln the next few minutes, When the debate is over. But I think that this should be a bipartisan effortr by b0th sides. That's the way it passed out of here last year. And I think it should be a bipartisan effort on the part of this Body this year. And I think we should come to some reasonable agreement on some bills should be drafted within reason where that you could have adequate representation on that, where that thP people would really be in charge. But once you cut a district with over five hundred thousand people in i*, one segment of that district might control *he entire district. I think there should be something similar to the -- to the Senate districts or what we did, or this Body didr in the judicial map. I would raEher see that, and I think thak's the best way to go. And hopefully that some of the people Who are dealing with this bill would rethink their position and look at the o1d map . And let's - - thank you, Madam President. Is that fast enough for you? 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22, 1995 Thank you very much. But take a real good lcok a: thls bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Jones.

Yes. Thank your Madam President. Would the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates he 'll yield, Senator Jones.

Senator Raica, what's the fiscal inpact cf this bill to the Water Reclamation District? What ls going to be the cost incurred by going to single-member districts?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Raica.

Senator Jones, I don't know which fiscal note you want me to pull ouE. I mean, Eherels a lot of thgm floating around. But I -- I don't have one currently on this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONASUE) Senator Jones.

Well, pull out the authentic one.

PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Raica.

I don't think there's any of those floating around either.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Jones.

Well, since ue don't know the fiscal -- fiscal impact, uhat about -- I heard during debate from our esteemed colleaquer Senator Viverito, and one other Senator mentioned about where the members are elected. Is there any prohibition for a member, be 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I they live in the suburbs, from running for office, be they i l Democrat Or Republican? Is there any prohibition against that?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Raica.

No, there's not, Senator Jones.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Jones.

So basically: that's not a valid argument. Nowr I -- I recognize the prablem that you may have in your respective area: the southwest side. One of the prcblems thaE really concerned me is that -- that current -- the current members are elected from a broad area throughout -- I mean, they run throughout the entire Cook County. If you go to single-member districts - ycu go to single-member districts - those persons elected will be concerned about their one geographical area basically. Take the Mccook situation, for example. Then those other commissioners from other areas, if they wanted, they could go right ahead and do it. Howeverr if they were elected as they currently arer each member would be concerned because -- because they would have to run in that area. So I -- I have a serious concern about going to single-member districts. You cannoE -- I don't belleve -- and I support the concept, but looking at it in depth: I don't believe you can equate the Metropclitan Water Reclamation Dlstrict or the - - or the Water Reclamatlon District the same as the County Board, because you 're talking about sewage, you're talking about waste: you dre talking about treatment and that issue Would transcend individual lines in one's district. It far transcends thatr so -- be very frank with you, I think welll be rgally doing the pgople a disservice. Even though they would be elected from a district, we'll be doing them a disservice, because if a11 commissioners 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22r 1995 have to run almost countywide, bhen those same commissloners will run in the Mccook area, and they have a interest because they would be up. But I don't think it preclude neither Democrats nor Republicans from the suburbs. Anybody can run. The only difference is, they have to be able to influence the people to vote for them.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator O 'Malley.

Thank youe Madam President. Will the sponsor of the amendment yield for a question. think it's Senator Viverito.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates he'll yield r Senator O'Malley.

Senator Viverlto, your amendment, which was adopted by voice vote on May 21st, as I understand it, amends the Water Reclamation District Act to require the General Assembly to divide Cook County into nine subdistriets for the election of nine Water Reclamation District commissioners. The map is to be drawn at least thirty days before the required filing of petitions for the 1996 elections. That -- that Would require that the map be finalized no later than November llth, 1995. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Viverito.

ThaE is correct.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O 'Malley.

Candidates for commissioner under your legislationy thenr would have only thirty days to collect petition signatures to qet Eheir names on the ballot, no* even knowing their district 66  STATE OF ILLINOI6 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22e 1995 boundaries until thirty days prior to fillng of petitions. Is that also correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Sqnator Viverito.

I believe that is correct, but as you probably know , three of the commissioners terms are ending in 1996. as it is. And I have known candidates to go ouE there that desire to run for office that would be able to get the -- acquired Ksic> signatures that are necessary. PRESIDING OFFTCER) (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O'Malley.

Well, Senator Viverito, I an not trying to question whether or not you have candidates at all. That is not my intention. But do want to clarify this so everybody understands what We 're votinç on here today. The language in your amendment will end the terms of all nine currently serving commissioners December of 1996, includingr obviously, those that are -- whose terms are about to expire. And they Will continue to serve until their successors are sworn 1n. In 1996, cnly three of the nine commlssioners is scheduled to be up for election in 1996. This will, in effect, disenfranehise those six commissioners who wl1l be in midterm at that point. Is that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Viverito.

Thank your Madam President. Yes, that is correckr and it does state that their terms will end in 1996. But may I clarify Senator O 'Malley, where I said that the -- getting the required signatures. meant that it would be a 1ot easier in the single-menber districts for the people to go out and get the  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22: 1995 signatures done, because the people will know who the candidates are that are runnlng. Right now, if you were to ask somebody if they knew anyone at the district, I doubt very much tha: anyone knew who the commissioners Were after they were elected for i fifteen and twenty years there. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O 'Ma11ey. SENATOR O 'MALLEY: Again, thank you, Senator Viverito, for clarifying that. Let me go on furthçr and clarify furthery if I could. For the 1996 election, five commissioners will be elected tc terms of four : I years and two years, four commlssioners will be elected to terms of two years and four years - and this has a lot to do with the fact that we're going to be having decennial redistricting come year 2002 - at which time the commissioners will be divided into three groups serving terms much llke the Senate: four, four, two; fourr two, four; or two, four, four. This will cause the term of office to -- to decrease frcm the current six-year term to either a two- or four-year Eerm . Is that correcE? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Viverito. SENATOR VIVERITO: ..a microphone cutoffl...Madam Presidenk. That's correct, Senator O'Malley: and I really appreciate the fact of how Well you explained it. You do a 1ot better than I could. Thank you. PRESIDING OFFICER: (GENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O 'Malley. SENATOR O'MALLEY: Again -- asain, thank you, Senator Viverito, for those comnents. The bill Nill be effective immediately but may not be signed until as -- as late as September 1y 1995. That would give the General Assembly but two months to draw a map. Is thaE 68 I T '  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 1995 correcE?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Viverito.

Thank you. That's true, but they could be working on that as quickly as we could :et thls passed, Senator O 'Malley. And I would hope with your help that we might be able to do it, because I'm not quite sure about over here. really need help over there. I've needed help on the Republican side for a long time on this bill, and I've done my best to make everybody aware of it on this side, as well as that side. Trust me. I worked there for six years. There are changes that are necessary.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O'Malley. A11 you have to do is put your light on, Pat.

Senator, agalnr thank you for those comments and -- and those clarifications. And as you kncwr I?m very interested in this issue, and I have legislaticn pending as well; although, my intent is samewhat different than ycurs, in the sense of how the conmissioners wll1 be selected in Ehe future. The answer to *he last question was yes, that -- khat I was correct. Republicans will be hard pressed to draw a nine-member map Which could be controlled by Republicans. So, picking up on your comments fron earlierr Why would Republicans want to support that?

PRESIDTNG OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Viverito.

Thank you, Madam President. Because I truly believe that this is a gocd government issue. dcn't think it's a Republican or Democratic issue. And I know that the goodwill of a1l cf the Senate is for good government. can't believe Ehat anybody who 's 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day MaY 1995 elected to this office would not be for good government, and I truly believe it's in the hands of those who have a consctence and want to do what's proper. And think the majority in this Chamber will vote the right way. Thank you .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O 'Malley, can you bring your questioning to a close.

Senator Viveritor I -- I very much appreciate that ycu -- you have those feelings. Those are feelings that I share, and maybe it's peculiar to those of us from the southwest suburbs that we've come here and feel so strongly in that regard. However, I want to get on to to the legislaticn that I have offered . The Republican Caucuses in both Chambers have discussed having a -- a board appointed by the Governor with the advise and consent of the Senate. This bill that we have before us today would preempt that idea and require the election of eommissioners from single-member districts. And I would submit to you that on the surfacer that that has a 1ot of appeal. But I Would also submit to you the following: Eirst, that what your bill does - and this has alearly been delineated in our conversation here today that those commissioners who have been duly elected will be disenfranchised least their voters will be - and they will not be allawed to complete the remainder of thetr term . I have heard some of those commissioners describe the services performed by the Water Reclanation District as that of a utility. And therefore, would submit to you that if if we're going to be having a uEiltEy serving the citizens of Cook County and -- and the other people that it serves, I wonder why they need to be elec*ed, and -- and isn't it worthy of considering that they be appointedr or should we be electing the board nembers at CommonwealEh Edison or Northern Illinois Gas. agree With those comnisstoners when they say that basically the function that they 're -- that the Water 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55*h Legislative Day May 1995 Reclamation District is perfarming is that as a -- a utility. I also want to get in the record that I believe there 's two other compellin: reasons why, perhaps: appointment by the Governor is an appropriate ccnsideration at this point appointment with the consent of the Senate. The water that goes inta the Water Reclamation District systen up in Cook County primarily comes from Lake Michigan, and it leaves Cook County primarily through the Illinois River syskem and ends up ln the Mississippi River. So the Governor is the one elected official Ehroughout the State of Illinois who has -- Who represents every one of the persons who are one Way or another affected in Illinois by where the water is coming from and where it's gcing. The last comment I would make for the record is this: A lot of people don't understand and appreciate this, but the WaEer Reclanation District serves less than al1 of the citizens of Cook County, and yetr it serves more than jusk citizens of Cook County. And I want to make sure that everybody appreciates that, because there have been suggestions that maybe Water Reclamation District should be absorbed into and become part of county governnent. It currently doesn't serve al1 of Cook County, and it also serves people outside our borders. I appreciate the Chamber's indulgence of -- of the time I've taken here: and appreciate, Senator, that you have taken *he time to answer these questions. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Petka.

Thank you, Madam President. I would move *he previous question, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) have one, two, three speakers. PurEher dlscussion? Senator Carroll.

STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the i Senate. The most recent speaker identified a program that I thknk I i is the only one 1, personallyy think is worse than ehls one, and that is gkving the Governor the appointment. The only sood Governor's appointment to the Water Reclamation District was Tom Walsh. Other than that, I don't think that that's the appropriate authority. Let me just say for the record a few things. I think Senator O'Malley did raise very good point. We get ninety days from a remap ln order to go out with petitions. Prior to ninety days they're lnvalid. There were petitions that were cballenged even after the last map, Where the districts had changed and people went out and were no longer in the correct district, and thereforer the petition was no longer valld . It might have had a wrong number or the wrong geography. I do not think thirty days is sufficient time to allow people to adequately get on the ballot. I personally have always liked districts. Thirty days: in factr as commltteeman of the 50th Ward, is a wonderful time frame. And no matter how the district Was drawnr I know that our ward would have its more-than-falr-share impact on the results. Howeverr we did just elect a group of commissioners, as ones were elected four years ago, and I personally believe -- and I had asked the sponsor of the amendment to phase in these appointments. I thlnk a phase-in of the appolntments would have been the appropriate way to go, because, as I believe, these people had been elected. I think that they would even be entitled to their pay, because they have a certificakion from the State Board that they have been selected to serve for six years, Would be entitled Eo be paid for Eha: six years, even if we were now Eo take away that right. I belleve, however, lt ls Wrong to take aWay the rights of Ehose who had been elected, and I -- I strongly suggest that a correct way of doing it would be Ec phase this in as they become due, *hen have a new sys*em. It can physically work. 1* 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 can geographically work, and is nuch preferable to then throwlng I out of office people Who the public had selected to serve for a I pertod oë time. I

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Hendon.

Thank you, Madam President. Under Senate Rule 7-4, sections 4 and 5, I call for a dlvislon of the question to separate Amendment No. 2 fron this bill. This is a good b1l1, but Amendment No. 2 clearly ts a bad amendment. Section 4 says: If a moEion is divistble, any Member may call for a division of the question. Number 5: Any question under conslderation may be withdrawn, postponed, tabled by unanimous consent orr if unaninous consent ts denied, by a motkon adopted by a majority. I mcve for a division of the question.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUC) I will respond to your question very shortly, Senator Hendon. Senator Raica.

Thank you for being so nice, Madam President. And I thlnk tha: that motion is out of crder. This -- we 're on 3rd Reading, not2ndReading,andIwouldjustlikeanoplnionoftheChalr. j

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) As I indicated, we will respond very shortly. Senator Dudycz.

Well: thank you, Madam President. I stand in opposition to House Bill 1108, and 1.11 tell you Why. I have no problem With *h9 underlying bill. It merely limits the capacity of the Kccook Reservolr ta ten and a hakf billion gallons. And I understand that tbe Water Reclamation District and the corps of engineers are even conmitted to that number. Sa I don't think that provision -- ! that part of the bill is a problem to the Body. The -- the part I I 73 . : '  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 of the bill that really causes me some concern is Senate Floor Amgndment No. 2, Which cuts two-thirds of the Board's terms by a: least in half or -- or two years. The existing Board members have been elected to six-year terms, whieh three expirq ln 1996, three expire in 1998, and Ehree expire in the year 2000. What the Amendment No . 2 will do will terminate a11 the members in 1996. I believe: like Senator Carroll said: that -- that We should have a phasin: in of these subdistricts as these terms expire. Ladies and Gentlemen, before you cast your vote, think about How would you like to be elected to a four-year term to the Illinois Senate and someuhere down the line somebody says that your term is going to be cut in half or or by three years? And thls is what wedre krying Eo do with Ehis bill to the members of the -- of the Water Reclamation District. This is disenfranchising Eheir voters. Rightly or wrongly they Were elected tc their terms, and I belleve Kha: they should at least serve Lo -- the full term, and then any changes that we We impose upon the Water Reclamation Distrlet should be after their current electlons are -- current terms expire.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) In response to Senator Hendon, we have one item before us, and that is House Bil1 1108. On 2nd Readkng , when we are discusskng -- or, Concurrences and we are discussing accepting of amendments, is at that point that you nay divide the question. It's non-debatabler Senator Hendon. No: you don't. Senator Raica, to close.

Thank you very much, Madam President, for your courtesy. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, when Was asked by Senator Viverlto Eo put the amendment on my btll, I knew the first portion of my bill was very important to myself and my dlstrict. But I also know that the issue which is before us now is not just my 74  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 ! i issue but that af Senator Viverito, a good friend even before I came to the General Assembly. He 's always been courteous to myself and my famlly. He's always been a gentleman, and I saW no reason to put <sic> this amendment on my bill, because I did believe in what he Was attempting to do, and I'n going to tell you why. The MWRD dles not Want this amendment for one specific reason, and I would have to say it Was because of the Senate -- or, Minority Leader's reason, and that is, they're golng to have to be responsible. And the reason they're going to have to be responsible is because they're golng to be elected by the people that they represent. Senator Jones stated right ncw theylre at -- or they get elected at Nide, and actually they're not responsible to anyone. So Senator Vlverito and I are not asking for anythlng that we would not want as Members of this General Assembly. We are responsible for the people We represent. When the issue of a ten-billkon-doklar reservoir came before our district, the MWRD was ready to close 55th Street in my district and not allow that to happen. I'm going to ask your if you would, to please cast an Aye vote on Ehis. Thls is *he only issue that's before us. It's either this or an appointed bcard by the Covernor, and we would like at least this lssue to get before the Governcr. Thank you.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The -- the quesEion is, shall 1108 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The vcting is open. Have al1 voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 vated Who Wish? Take the record. On thaE quesEëon, Ehere are 43 Ayes, 12 Nays, 2 voting Present. House Bi11 1108, having received the required constitutional majorityg is declared passed. We will be at ease for a few moments. We have a very speclal guest, and Senator Pate Philip will be intraduclng.

Thank you, Madam Preskdent. You knowy we have three j 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 1995 distinguished guests here With us today. We have the -- Judy Baar Topinka, *he S*ate Treasurer. And we have also *he outstanding Republican Secretary of State, one of the greatest Secretary of State's Illinois has even known, the Honorable George W . Ryanr Whc - - who H. I'm sorry. George H. -- easy now. Easy now. And obviously one of the mcst popular Secretary of gtate's with the Members of the General Assembly we have ever had, and we a1l know why. So without further ador George would like to make a special introduction. George.

Thanks very much, Mr. President. Just as a matter of ncte, thanks for the warm reception. My personnel clerk be sitting outslde the door, for those of you that may be in need. A special birthday greeting to Senator Stan Weaver. Happy birthday, Stan. -- we are on short time, and we know that you're very busy. You al1 know Who Senator Graham is. He's a prcfessor of economics. He knew you were having trouble balancing the budget here today, working out your budget problems. He's here today to give you some insight on how to do that. Senator Phil Grammr candidate for President.

As George mentioned, taught economics for twelve years at Texas A & M. I have tried to teach the same subject in Congress for the last fifteen years. You will not be surprised to hear me say my students at Texas A & M Were a lot smarter than these people now worklng with Congress. Now, only politics would you brlng a guy from Washingtonr a city Where we're looking a Ehree-hundred-and-twenty-flve-billion-dollar deficit in the face, lnto a state Capitol of a State that has a mandate to balance Ehe budget so that I could tell you how to do 1*. would say: in Writing our budget, every year try to ask three questions. Number one: What are we doing that government 76  STATE CF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 shouldn't do? And my test is, look at every program of the federal government, look at somebcdy who gets his hands dtrty i @ working for a living, and ask a simple questlon: Are the benefits welre getting from this program worth taking the money away frcm that hardworking person to pay for it? Needless tc say that a 1ot of programs won't meet that test. The second test is: What are we doing that qovernment should be doing or that shculd be done but which could be done better by the states, by the counties, by the cities, by the local school baards? And finally: What are we doing that should be done but which worklng peopley if we let them keep the money and spend i: themselvesr could do better? Those, I think, are the three tests. I commend you to your task. Pate, I'm very proud to be here today. It is a great privilege for me to come to Illinois. I came here today looking for a job. I'm going to run in every county in yaur State like I Was running for sheriff. I believe I'm going to get that job, and I'm not going to forget Illinols when I do. Thank you very much and God bless ycu. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) We Will resume on 3rd Readingsy and Senator Karpiely with House Bill 1246. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: House Bill 1246. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) SenaEor Karpiel. SENATOR KARPIEL: Thank you, Madan President. This one 's a llttle bit easier, less controversial. It does tWo thinqs now that it's amended. lt . expands the prima facia provision of theft by a lessee to cover situations where the lessor has been given a fictltious nape, 77 L y j ' . ..  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 1995 address or telephone number. It also shortens the period of time that a lessee has to return the property once a written demand has been made for iEs return from thtrty days to ten days. That's a provision for a rental company in my district that has a problem sometimes getting their -- their property back. It also raises the penalty for crlmlnal trespass Eo real property from a Class C misdemeanor to a Class B misdemeanor. And the whole part about the criminal trespass about invitees of tenants has been removed fron the bill by the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, shall House Bill 1246 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The votin: open. Have a11 voted who wlsh? Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. House Bill 1246, having recelved the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Hawkinson, do you seek leave? Senator Hawkinson seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 1248 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment. Hearing no objectlonr leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 1248. Madam Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 1, offered by Senator Hawkinson.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Hawkinson, on Amendment No .

Thank you, Madam President. Amendment No. adds the provisions of the following Senate billsy as an anendmenty a11 of which passed overwhelmingly in the Senate. These were bills suggested by both Democratic and Republican staff because of the difficulties we've had qettins these bills heard completely in the 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I House. They're Senate Bills 332, 344: 580, 600, 721, 747, 812, I I 838, 1025 and 1173, al1 of which passed the Senate overwhelminglyr and wefll hope that the House w111 concur this time. I would ask for khe adoption of Floor Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none: Senator Hawkinson moves the adoption of Senate Floor Amendment No . 1 to House Bill 1248. A1l those in favor, say Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment is adopted. Are there any other Floor -- further Floor amendments approved for consideration?

No further amendments reported, Madam President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 3rd Reading. END OF TAPE TAPE 3

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Hawkinson, on House Bill 1268? Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1268. (EecreEary reads title of bl11) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator HaWkinson.

Thank you, Madam President. House Bill 1268 is identical to 79 ' g '  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislattve Day May 22: 1995 Senate Bill 599, Whieh passed this Body by a vote of 54 to nothing, before was amended on the Floor. It increases the penalties for large amounts of cannabis possession and trafficking. Statefs a*torneys ln Bureau County and Henry County, along Interstate 80, have been having great difficulties With that corridor being a drug corridor and have found that when they made arrests involving huge amounts of cannabis, that the penalties simply were not large enough to deter that kind of -- that kind of activity. We passed it over in Senate Bill 599, Which is tied up in some other larqe bills, and this is the House version of that. Senator Cullerton has placed a couple of amendments on this bill, which have earlier explained. One amends the Juvenile Court Act to extend the thlrty-six-hour limit on keeping a minor in custody on an automatic transfer offense, where the minor has lied about his his or her age to law enforcement. We had a case where that happened, and the conviction was overturned because of that thirty-six-hour rule, when 1aw enforcement had no way to know that they were dealin: with minor. The second part of that -- of that Amendment No. 3 required a bona fide doubt as to a defendant's fitness to stand trial because of prescribed medication befcre a fitness hearing is required. Senate Floor Amendment No. 4 is supported by the State Policer Winchester and the Illinois StaEe and National Rifle Assoclations. defines armor piereing bullet to conform it to federal law. It's an agreed-upon amendment. And Senate Amendment No. 5 was a technical amendment which removed a comma. I'd be happy to ansWer any questions: otherwise ask for your favorable support for House Bill 1268, as amended .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, shall House Bill 1268 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposedr Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? 80 ! I STATE OF ILLINOIS B9TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legiglative Day May 22: 1995 ' I ' : ! Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the ! ! record. On that question, there are 57 Ayes, no Nays, none voting Present. House Bill 1268, having received *he requlred constltutional majority, is declared passed. Can we have leave to return to House Bill 1279? Leave is granted. House Bill 1437. Senator Petka. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER : House Bill 1437. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Petka. SENATOR PETKA: Well, thank you, Madam President, Menbers of the Senate. Senate Ksicl (House) Bill :437 is the Illinois Streetgang Racketeering Law. The amendment which Was placed on the bill basically took out a lot of the provislons whichr in the opinion of a majority of the Members of the Committee, did not have any relevance or pertlnence to streetgangs. The legislation sets up a racketeerin: influenced corrupt organization lawsuit or remedy for streetgang activity. Itls a fairly comprehensive piece of leglslation. The -- the last time that we ran this lesislationr it had fifty-six affirmative votes and; Madam President and Members of the Senater I would once again urge its adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discugsion? Any discussion? Seeing ncne, the question is, shall House Bill 1437 pass. Those in favor Nill vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l vated who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Take the record . On that questlonz there are 58 Ayes, no Naysr none voting Fresent. House Bill 1437, having recetved the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senatar Mahar, on 81 '- - - - - ' - - - - - - - - - - - --. 7. ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legtslative Day May 22r 1995 House Bill 1461. Senator Parker, on House Bill 1462? Read the bill, Madam Secretary. ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: House 3i1l 1462. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Parker. SENATOR PARKER: Thank your Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. House Bill 1462 has been amended by the Senate Transportahion Committee to include changes in the Illinois Commeccial Transportation Law. This leglslatlon is the result of many months of legislatlve hearings and meetings involving reprgsentatives of the trucking industry, household goods mover, Illinois Commerce Commission: and Menbers of the General Assembly. It is an agreed bill. The agreed provisions of this bill set forth the operations of the Transportation Divislon of the Illinois Commerce Commission in the Wake of deregulation. The second anendment added onto it has the b11l which passed out of here witbout any opposition, which includes the -- Ehe countles can have flexibillty in the use of their notor fuel vehicle tax. I would be happy to answer any questions. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Ralph Dunn. SENATOR R. DUNN: Thank you: Madam Presldent. I Wonder if th9 sponsor wkll yield to a couple queskions, please. PREGIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates shelll yield, Senator Ralph Dunn. SENATOR R. DUNN: Thank you. Senator Parker, part of the amendment you added, I 82 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I want to readwhatouranalysissays. Wouldyou tellme if this is 1 correct? The amendment also allowstheCommerceCommissionto direct local phone companies to disconnect the phone number listed 1 I in a commercial directory of any .unllcensed household goods earrier. Is that in the -- in the bill? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Parker. SENATOR PARKER: Yes, that isr that they can request discannection for anybody who gould be not regulatedr because it would be illegal not to be regulated. And let me remind you, this was an agreed bill with everybody. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Dunn. I SEXATOR R. DgNN: I Thankyou Senator Parker, I know it Was agreed by somebody, . 1 I but I think that's one of the silliest parts of a bill I've heard up here this year, that if you are not regulated or if you're not a member of the Illinois Commerce Commission, if you 're not -- if you're an unlicensed household goods carrier: they can disconnect your telephone. Isn't that a poor way to get at it? We have 1 I laws. We have -- I think it may be against the 1aW. Yau night 1 j arrest someone if they were unllcensed, but surely you wouldn't I unhook their telephone. I knog I talked to you earlier, and I've talked to staff about it, and I guess this is one solution. It reminds me a little bit of if you don't pay your -- lf you don't pay your chlld support, they take your driver's license away. What'll be next, do you suppose, that We'l1 have if we continue I along this line? If an attorney license isn't renewed, why maybe *he Attorney General will dtsconnect his telephone unkil he gets I I licensed again . I -- I Ehink this ls a ridiculous part of the I I vote -- part of the bill: and 1,d certalnly urge a No vote . i I 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I I PRESFurther IDINGOFF ICER: (SENATORDONAHUE) discusslon? Senator Fawell. 1

Thank you very much. This ha# been a bill that has been worked on for almost six or seven months by the variaus people Nho are -- are concerned about the deregulation of the trucking industry. As you know: the feds have come ln and they have not only deregulated interstate, but they have deregulated intrastate. The only two now that are going to be regulated are moving companies, and in three counties - Cook, Dupage: and I belleve it's Lake - they have -- they are -- we have our -- our tow Eruek drivers also regulated under this bill. It has been a difficult bill to come to an agreement on, and I commend Ehe -- the sponsor of this blll for bringlng this forth. If We don't requlate the movers, we nay run into the same problem they ran down into in -- in Miamir and in Florida in general, where they derequlated the movers, and it turned out that a large number of the movers were not delivering the -- the furniture as they had agreed to, and people were wtthout -- literally uithout their furnlture. I think lt's a good bill. If lndeed we find as We go along that there may be some fine-tuning necessary, I'm sure we can do that. But for right now, we have to do what is needed, and I would solicit an Aye vote on this bill.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Syverson.

Thank you, Madam President. A ques*ian for the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indlcates she'll yieldr Senator Syverson.

My concern is just folloNing up on the eomments made by Senator Dunn regardlng the Commission directing phone companies to I 1 84  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 disconnect to dësconnecting the phone service. If there was a mistake made by the Commerce Commission, and *hey turned off a phone of a -- a movlng company for thirty days, or if it happened to be during the time when they're printing phone books? and that mistake caused that moving company not to make it into the phone book, what would -- what would happen to that moving company and what recourse Would they have if that mkstake Was made?

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Parker. SENATOR PARKER) The Commerce Commission would not have the authority of discoanecting Ehe phone unless the moving company uere operating illegally , And so I couldn't tell you specifically What responsibility they Nould have if they had actually taken out a phone of somebody who Nere operating legally, but I Would imagine that the 1aw certainly Would take care of that they would be responsible for disconnectlng the wrong phone. We are only, in this bill, saying it is an illegal movery and that is the only responsibility that they are allowed to take at the Commerce Commission. PRESIDING OFFICERS (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Madam Presidentz Ladies and GenElemen of *he Senate. I would just stand in strong support of this bill. Senator Pawell is absolutely correct. There's a lot of work that went lnto i*. It's not our idea in the first place; it's one that's forced on us by *he federal sovernment. And I ask for an Aye vote. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further diGcusgion? Purther discusslon? Senator parker, to close. 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEM3LY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Leglslative Day Kay 1995

Thank you. As I remlnd you, this is an agreed-to bill by the Illinois Commerce Commissiony Mid-West Truckers, the Illinois Transportation Associatipn, Illinois Movers' Association, and Members of the General Assembly on the committee. Thls amendment brings to Illinois Commercial Transportation LaW. It brings that 1aw into compliance with the federal law which preempts State requlation of interstate trucking. There may be fine-tuning that needs to be made, but right now we have nothing. would urge a favorable vote on this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The question is, shall Hause Bill 1462 pass. Those in favor wlll vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The vottng ls open. Have a1l voted who gish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. On that questiony there are 48 Ayes, 6 Nays, 4 voting Present. House Bill 1462, havlng received the required consEitutional majority, declared passed. Senator O'Malley seeks leave of the Body to return 1465 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purposes of an amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is 1465. Madam Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 1, offered by Senator O 'Malley.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O'Malley, on Amendment No . 1.

Thank you, Madam President and Memberg Of Ehe fenate. Senate Floor Amendmen* l to House Bill 1465 deletes everything and becomes the bill. It addressgs a property tax -- taxation reform in Cook County by addressing the following: First of all, it Witl abolish the current Board of Appeals effeckive January 1, 1996. provide for an Interim Board and for election of members to it. 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENZRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SZSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Provides for the establishment of three electfon districts With I boundaries to be drawn by tHe General Assembly not later than June I ? k, 1996. :he three-member Board of Review that will result Will l I be elected in Novemb#r of 1998, the three membets from the -- the election districts that are drawn not later than June 1, 1996. It also provfdes for the annual selection cf a chairman by 1ot to -- fron among those members wlth no member to serve for more than two consecutive years. Grants the Board of Review many of the same powers and -- and mandates as a:l other boards of review have throughout the State of Illinois. It also phases in the State's Property Tax Appeals Board beginning with six units and less residential for assessments made in 1996, and addins a1l other classes of property beginninq with assessments made in the 1997 assessment year. It provides for a series of -- tax objection reforms that are recommended by khe Civic Federation based on work they did with the Chicago 3ar Assoctation. That's a statewide initiative, as is Ehe abolition of the doctrine of constructive fraud statewide, and establishes clear and convincing as the level of burden of proof for circuit courts in a1l eounties of thls State. Be happy to answer any queskions you may have and would move for the adoption of Senate Floor Amendment 1 to House Bill 1465.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Is there any discussion? Senatoc Cullerton.

Would the sponsor yield?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates he'll yieldr Senator Cullerton. EENATOR CULLERTON; I j I Sena*or, could you describe the method by Which *he Interim I I Board would be elected? I I PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) . I 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22# 1995 I Senator O'Ma11ey.

The -- each of the Leaders Will appolnt two Members to a nominating commission. Are you referrinq, I believe, Senatory to the lnterim board? And that's Nhat I want to answer and explain. Each of the four Leaders shall appoint tWo Members to a nominatinq commission by July 1: 1995. Members of the nominating commission must be residents of Cock County. They will be selected from among Members of the General Assembly. The nominating commlssion select -- shall select four candldates by October 1, 1995 to be considered by Members of the General Assembly representing Cook County in prcportion to the number of voters that they -- they represent. Each of the nominees must have -- reeeive fkve votes from the nominating commission ko be consldered. The nominating commission shall set rules for the conduct of the election. The election shall be held prior to December 1, 1995. Weigh*ed votes shall be cast by legislators reprgsenting Cook County. Each voting Member shall receive the number of votes cast for Governor in the last general election. The members of the interim board shall take office on January 1, '96 and remain in office until November 1998: when the -- when the -- the new Board will -- will be elected from election districts.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Cullerton.

Yes. I don 't think that -- I'm almos: certain we -- ve donft have anythin: llke thls noW Where the Members of the Ceneral Assembly in Cook County have the right to vote on an elected official -- on someone like this lnterim board person. I know that we've kearned from Senator Petka that they have the right to appoint sanitary district members. But coukd you just describe for me one more time how -- do you take a legislative district? 88  I I I STATE OF ILLINOIS ' I 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGDLAR SESSION I I SENATE TRANSCRIPT I I l 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Do you get the -- the State Representatives and the State Senator each *as a -- a weighted vote based on the number cf people who voted in the Governor's general election? And then you cast your vote for -- from a list of names that are submitted by the nominating commission that has eight Members? I -- I apologize. I know you've said -- youlve said this, but I'm just trying to visualize how this would work, since We have nothing like it ncw. PRZSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senatar O 'Ma11ey. SENATOR O 'MALLEY: Senator Culkerton, as an example, I have in front of me a list that's compiled of all the votes cast in the 1994 vote for Governor. ft indicates that Ehere are, ln the Senate, five hundred and sixty thousand six hundred and sixty-five Republican votes and six hundred and fifty-eight thousand two Hundred and seventy-nine Democrat votes. In the House, the numbers break out four hundred and eighty-three thousand six hundred and fifty-four Republican and seven hundred and thlrty-five thousand two hundred ninety. In ycur case, the information that I have in front of me would indieate Ehat of those total votes in the Senate, you are entitled to fifty -- or you represent fifty-three thousand four hundred and eighty-tvo of those vctes. 5o yaur votes would be weighted against the total of a1l the votes in both the House and the Senate. And in the case of the House Members that serve with you, from the 11th Dlstrict, twenty-nine thousand faur hundred and eighty-niner and from the 12th District, twenty-three thousand nine hundred and ninety-three. So those were the votes that would -- those were the votes that would be able to be cast, and of courses it would be done on a weighted basis. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTON: l 89 i I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22z 1995 You've also indicated that the bill would allow for - at a ' certain point in time - for people who are protesting their I I property taxes to go to the Property Tax Appeal Board. Is that ' ! I the name, at tbe State level? Is that the name of the State I ' j agencykhattheycangotc? 1 PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O'Malley. SENATOR O 'MALLEY: That is eorrect, Senator Cullerton. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTON: So now, in Cook County, you can 't go to this Baard . Under this bill, you would be. Do you have any idea how many people would be appealing to this Board, who now cannot, and what is the ccst anticipated to be to the State? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O'Malley. SENATOR O'MALLEY : Senator Callerton, it would be pure speculation on my part to estinate the total numbers. T think the -- the number of people who will actually take advantage of this appeals process will be dependent on the assessment process in Cook County. I am told: however, that - on good information and from a reliable source - that at least eighty pereent of the appeals to PTAB stateWide currently come from residential owners. I also requested that the staff provide me wikh a fkscal note, and I have nOt read it yet, but I will be happy to provide thls to you. And it would indicate - - and I wank to make sure that I get Ehis correct, so bear With I me for a mcment. 1 PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I Senator Cullerton 1 . j 90 . è . I ! STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55*h Legtstative Day May 22, 1995 SENATOR O 'MALLEY: Senator Cutlerton, the -- Ehe number for Fiscal Year '97 Would be one million six hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine dollars. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTON: Who is it that prepared that fiscal note? Is that the Department of... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O'Malley. SENATOR O'MALLEY: The -- the Department of Revenue. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Cullerton . SENATOR CULLERTON: Now, I also understand in the bill that there's something here that would allow for the board of of appeals is that the name of the new board? - to -- or require them to -- if someone makes a complaint that someone 's property is not assessed high enough, if it's -- if someone complains that someone's property ls underassessed, that it would require this Board to look into that and to possibly increase someone's assessed valuation; whereas, now, there has to be a taxpayer come in and file a petition for that. Could you describe the change that this Would bring about? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) senator O 'Malley. SENATOR O'MALLEX: SenaEor Cullerton, under the current rules Of the Board of Tax Appeals, they acE on -- on taxpayer complaints. That means that a taxpayer could come in and file a complaint of overassessment concerning any property in Cook County. So that -- that is 91 - - - - - - -L - - -'' .  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 I already permitted, and we're not changlng that. The Board of -- ' the Cook County Board of Review, b0th the Interim Bcard and -- and E the Board that is elected in 1998: Nould have the ability to review assessments . on its own initiative. I discussed that with I menbers of -- of the Boartj of Tax Appeals, one member in patticular: and solicited any suggestions they may have that -- and they provtded us with language that is incorporated into the bi11. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Senator Cullerton. I l SENATOR CULLERTON: I Well, does that language nandate that they act on any j complaint? So, lek's say somebody writes a letter saying, you know, ''I think my next-door neighbor's property ts underassessed, because they're paying less than I am.6$Do they then have to, I under the language that you have, make an investigation and decide whether or not they should, on their own, raise the assessment of the -- your next-door neighbor? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O 'Ma11ey. SENATOR O'MALLEY: I Senator Cullerton, as I -- as I explained earlier, the current I process would continue, in tbat Ehere must be a formal ccmplaint from -- from a taxpayer that would be filed with the Bcard of Review, jus: as is currently done under the Soard of Tax Appeals. In addition, th9 language Ehat was recommended that we 1 incorporated is -- is substantially the following: Board of Review or Interim goard may also revise any assessment on its oWn initiative on written motion of one or more of its members. Now I that means that they can either ga up or down. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I ' Further discussion? Further discusslon? Senator O 'Malley, to 92 . ) ' 2 ----. --. :7 ------ ---- I I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22y 1995 I close. j SENATOR O 'MALLEY : I Well, againr I think We'11 be discussing this in more detail when I actually present the bi11. I would just solictt your support to allow the amenk 'ment to go on, and if there are any further questions at the time we debate the bil1, I'11 be happy to answer those as well. Thank ycu . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator O'Malley moves the adoption of Senate Floor Amendment No. l to House Bill 1465. A11 those in favor. say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it# and the amendment is adopted. Are there any other further Floor amendments approved for consideration? ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments reported, Madam President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 3rd Reading. Senator Lauzen, on House Bill 1523? Out cf the record. Senator Fawell, on House B1ll 1587? Senator Fawell seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 1587 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purposes of amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 1587. Madam Secretary, have therp been any Floor amendments approved for consideration? ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2, off:red by Senator Fawell. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Fawell, on Amendment No . 2. SENATOR FAWELL: Thank you vgry mucb. This is just a elean-up amendment offered by George Ryan. It just adds two more people Eo his merit committee so Ehat he can get a quorum. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUD) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, I 93 ' . ., -  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Le:islative Day M8y 22: 1995 l Senator Fawell moves the adoption of Floor l Amendment No. 2 to House Bill 1587. A1l those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The I Ayes have it, and the amendment is adcpted. Are there any other i Floor a4endments approved for consideration? I

Nofurtheramendmentsreported,Madam President. j

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 3rd Reading. senator Dillard, on House 3ill 1608. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 1608. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Dillard.

Thank your Madan President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. House Blll 1608 is a request of the Corporate Fiduciaries Association, is supported by the Community Bankers, as well as the Illinoi.s Bankers Association, and basically itr contains three different provisions. The first provision permits executors and guardians to invest in mutual funds , including proprietary mutual funds of the corporate fiduciary . The second provisicn of this bill permits trustees, if they use reasonable carer skill and eaution in selecting an agent, to rely upon the advice or recommendation of an agent , including attorneys and accountants . And the last provision of this bill provides for a statute cf limitations Whpre , as is Ehe current practice , a beneficiary has received detailed and regular statements of receipts and disbursements detailkng the trustee's administration of the trust. Aga kn , it comes from the Corporate Fiduciaries Association , and is ' supported by both major bankëng groups in this State. I'd be I 94 I STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 1 happy tO ansWer any questions. I ; PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, the queytion is, shall House Bill 1608 pass. A11 those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record . On that question, there are 57 votlng Yes, 1 voting No, no voting Present. House Bill 1608, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Palmer, on House Bill 17302 Senator Palmer. Out of the record, please. Tom Walsh, on House Bill 17877 Mr. Secretary: please read the bill. SECRETARY HARRY: House Bill 1787. (Secretary reads title of bi11) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Walsh. SENATOR WALSH: Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bkll -- or, House B111 1787 amends the Illinois Lottery Lawr the Illinois Pull Tabs and Jars Game <sic> Act, and the Charitable Games Act. In the -- the Lottery changesr it clarifies that ln determlning whether a prize is less than six hundred dollars, that the amount of the wager shall be deducted. In the Pull Tabs and Jars Game Act, it strikes the limitation to one location, and this allows for a -- a group to get two licenses in a year. In the Charitable Games Actr I'n going to read it: Any changes to the llst of workêrg submiEEed by the organizaticn must contain a I sworn statement by the preslding officer and secretary, attesting 1 I I under penalties of perjury that the information is true and I correct and complete. It removes the eight-events-per-year limit for the use of a premises provided by a municlpality. And there iG 1 I 95 ' . . '& .  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22# 1995 also -- it adds that a license may be suspended. And then finally, it amends the Pull -- Pull Tabs and Jars Game Act to increase the prize limits from two thousand two hundred and fifty I to thirty-five hundred. And it anends the Charitable Games Act to allow a volunteer to work twelve nights a year, rather than four. I It taxes the net proceeds defined as after payment of prizes, ; I rather than gross receipts. And finally, it eliminates the i I requirement to -- to record date cfbirth,SocialSecurity j number, and signature on Volunteer Work Attendance Form that is submitted to the Departmenk of Revenue. And I'd be happy tc answer any questlons.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Any discussion? Senator Burzynski.

Thank your Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, I just rise to once agaln point out that this bill -- we're revisiting this bill. It was taken out of the record last week as we discussed this billr and like to remind the Menbers of the Chamber, as Senator Sieben did last week, that, again, this is another expansion of gambling, and -- and certainly I would like to point that out so that you can be aware of that as you vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Carroll.

Ihank youy Mr. Presiden*, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I rise in opposition, as I did last time lt was up, and I do so for some very specific reasons - mainly that -- my concern Ehat we are chanqin: the law about requiring that we give the Sacial Security number and dateofbirthofpeoplewhowillbeworking these games. That is currently the laW. The laW was put into 1 ' effect in order to make sure that there were not people who were not volunteers. I know that's a double negative, but in effect i 96 l . .  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSTON SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 what was happenlng ls professlonal gaming people were ccming in I and Working these various games and actually chargins a significant amount of money so that the charities recelved a lo* less than they should have. And -- and we passed a 1aW ta avoid that situation by havlng a tracking '' mechanism by using Social j Securi*y number and dake of birEh, so that we wouldn't have professionalypaidvolunteersworking from game to game to game to 1 game and in effect have what otherwise would have been illegal gambling taking place as if it were gambling. So that you couldn't have: for example, floating crap games of the same type of people working each game and getting paid for it. This legislation would take out that safety valve that allowed us to track and make sure that we did no* have professionals pretending to be volunteers, when they were, in fact, compensated or working fcr other reasons in that game. I don't think we want to see that kind of story again that made us take the kind of corrective action tbat I think we appropriately took and would hope we would keep. The other thing is the definition of gross and nek. A -- a very large charity, Cerebrat Paksy , has had Lts gamble for years and years and years, and what they do is, you buy your chips, and then at the end of the night: if you have any chips left, you can go get a gift. They, because they are allowing you to get something other than cash back - and a lot of churches do this also; instead of getting cash, you can get a prlze - they would be paying, as they now do, on the gross receipts. If someone next door sets up a cash gamblkng nkght, pays you back money in cash, there are very limited net receipts upon which the State would, in fact, inpose a tax. There ls not only a b1g dtfference to the State in the flscal anount - it's probably about half of the tax revenues would be lost - lt also puts those charities who have always done it as a fund-raiser, where they give out gifts so that people coming there are really not there to gamble, gamble, gamble but are I 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 really there to help the charity and maybe if they have some chips ' I leftF come home With a prize, those charities would be paying a l full tax. If -- lf somebody next door using one of these untraceable volunteers were qivin: back cash, they Would be paying a much lesser tax and be in a competitive advantage. For those and other reasons, I think thks is bad legislation and would urge opposition.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Philip.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Let's straighten out the record. In the first place, it is not an increase in gambling, any stretch of the imagination. What it does, lt says that we're goin: to tax you on the net, nc* the qross. Now, you know who youdre doing this for? The VFW, the American Leglon, the KC, the Mocsg. Yau know what it is totally stateuide? A whoppins three hundred thousand dollars. Well that's certainly going to lay us away. That'll break the budgetr if anything ever wculd. Now, Howard, that's a qreat ideay to have khese people who volunteery who don't get a penny for it, but you want them to put down their Soclal Security. Next we'll have to fingerprint 'em . You know what? Maybe we ought to send it to the EBI. They're dcing it for noEhing. Zero. They :et nothing Cor it. Theydre your next-docr neighbors. Theyfre good guys. We ought to do this. It makes sense.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) FurEher discusskon? Senator Fawell.

Well, just -- just to remind you what I said yesterday on this amendment. A11 we 're talkinq about are -- are four guys from -- from one American Legion post going over and helping four other j 1 guys in the town nextdoor,and vlce versa. Theseare-- these 1 98 . ) '  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Lpgislative Day May 22, 1995 ! are groups that -- that help our community, that help our kids. I ! I ïou know, a1l we're trying to do is allow them to raise the money ; I so that they can do the -- the charitable thlngs that they 're Well 1 . I known for. And I don't see anything Wrong kith the Way this bill I .. I is, and we ought to a11 be voting Aye. I I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) j I I Further discussion? Senator Sieben. I SENATOR SIEBEN; Thank you, Mr. President. I also rise in opposition to the legislation because of my position an gambling and the gambling expansion. And Senator Carroll very aptly described the way the process of the charitable games are conductede and clearly thls legislation: T think, would weaken the safeguards that were imposed by Public Act 88-669, certainly, and to tax the net proceeds is going to have a fiscal impact on the State. Senator Philip said three hundred thousand dollars. That's certainly a fiscal impact that we should be concerned about as wggre trying to bring a budqet together. But I think, more importantly, it defeats the original intent of the legislative intent of all the Charitable Games Statute, which was to allow for a limited amount of nonprofesslonalized gaming by charlties as a fund-raising mechanisn. And I would urge a1l those that are concerned abaut gambling in this State ta -- to vote no. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank you, Mr. Presidentg Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I wasn't going to speak on this, but I keep hearing a1l af this language abou: expansion. I don't see any expansion here. What I see ls a clarification, and I think the clarification is well put. I I It's gettlng harder and harder, day in and day out, to -- to get I I I enough volunteers in these organizations. I think this is a good I 99 y ' . 0 - - - - -'. - - -  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22: 1995 I bill, and I think we ought to vote Aye. E

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Seeing none, Senator Walshy to close.

Thank you, Mr. President. I'd just ask fcr a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) The question isr shall House Bill 1787 pass. A11 those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 36 voting Yes, 20 voting Nor 1 Voting Present. House Bill 1787, having recelved the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. House Bill 1792. Senator Cronin? Senator Cronln on the Floor? Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.

House Bill 1792. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (GENATOR WATGON) Senator Cronin.

Thank you very much, Mr. President, Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill, as amended, adds Senate Bill 1038 to our Crimlnal Code clean-up bill that passed Judiciary 11 to nothing and passed this Senate 57 to nothing. It adds it onto this bill, 1792. There's a laundry kist of ttems that I'd be happy to go through in response to questions. Suffice it to say We've debated Ehls before, and ie's passed unanimously. I ask for your favorable conslderation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any dlscusslon? Any discusslon? Seeln: none, the question is, shall House Bill 1792 pass. All those in favor: vote l00 . L  STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL AfSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 1995 Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that questlon, there are 59 voting Yes, no voting No, no voting Pregent. House Bill 1792, having received the required eonstitutional majority, ls declared passed. Senate Ksic> Bill 1853. Senator Dillard? Senator Dillard on the Floor? Senator Dillard. Out of the record. House Bill 1900. Senator Philip? Out of the record. House Bill 2226. Senator Cronin? Senator Cronin seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 2226 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Hearing no objectionz leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 2226. Mr. Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendment Nc . 2, offered by Senator Rauschenberger. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Cronin.

Thank ycu, Mr. President. With leave of the Bodyr I seek to present this amendment on behalf of Senator Rauschenberger.

PRESIDING OPEICER: (GENATOR WATSON) Leave granted.

Thank you. This amendment was debated in committee today and moved out on a unanimous recommendation. It extends the date for the phase-in of the family preservatlon progran to July 1st, year 2000. deletes certain administration lançuage Ehat uill now be more appropriately placed *he Budget Implementation Act. I ask for your favorable consideratlon.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any dlscussion? Seeing nones a1l those kn favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have and the amendmene is  STATE OP ILLINOI; 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22r 1995 i ! adopted. Any further Ploor amendments approved for consideration? SECRETARY HARRY: No further amendments reported, Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senator Parker seeks leave of the Body to return House Bill 2330 to the Order of 2nd Reading far the purpose of an amendment. Hearlng no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is House Bill 2330. Mr. Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved fcr consideration? SECRETARY HARRY: Amendment No. 3, offered by Senator Raica. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Raica. SENATOR RAICA: Thank you, Mr. President. The amendment amends *he Illinois Health Facilitles Authority by including for-profit hospitals withln the jurisdlction of the Illlnois Health Flnance <sic> Authority Act. It also amends the Nursing Home Care Act by extendin: the current regulation and licensing survey process by the Joink Commlsslon on Accreditation to December 31st, 1997 instead of 1995, and I'd just ask for a -- adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any dlscusskon? Seeing none, all those in favorr say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Any further Floor amendments approved for consideration? SECRETARX HARRY: Amendment No. 4, offered by Senator Walsh. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Walshr on Amendment No. 4. SEKATOR WALSH: Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Amendment No. 4 to House Bill 2330 is formerly Senate Bill 905, which passed I 102 ' . y  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day MaY 1995 the Senate 57 to -- to -- to nothing. And would ask for a favorable consideration.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Seeing none, al1 thosç in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have and the amendment adopted. Any further Floor amendments approved for consideration?

No further amendments repcrted .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. House Bill 2338. Senator Cronln. Out of the record. House Bill 2370. Senator Barkhausen? Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.

House Bill 2370. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Barkhausen.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members. House Bil1 2370 comes to us from the Commission on Savings and Residentlal Finance. It makes a number of technical changes in the Acts qoverning Eheir opera*ions. In general, it allows them, thgy feel, to ccncentrate their regulatory resaurces on the potential problem areas. I'd be glad to answer any questions and otherwise urge your support for this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Js khere any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, the quegtion is, shall House Bill 2370 pass. A11 those in favorr vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record. On that quesEion, there are 54 voking Yes, 1 voting l03  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 No, 3 voting Present. Hcuse Bill 2370, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Hcuse Bill 2403. Senator Rauschenberger? Out of the record. House Bill 2429. Senator Rauschenberger. Out of *he record . We'd like to have leave to return to b0th House Bill 2403 and House Bill 2429. Leave is granted . We are going to proceed to page 9 of your Calendar. Page Secretary's Desk Concurrence, Senate Bills. We w1ll begin wtth Senate Bill Senator Klemm , cn a motion to concur. Read the aotion, Mr. Secretary.

move to concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No . to Senate Bill Filed by Senator Klemm.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Klemm.

Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Members of the Senate. House Amendment No. l on Senate Bill l22 removed a provision that required the Secretary of State to verify some vehicle registration. Now the City of Chicago, with their electronic access to the records, can do that. And it also changes the requirement that When the City of Chicago sends a report of ten cr more unpaid tickets to the SecreEary, that Ehey include th9 report that the statement af the vehicle registration and the vehicle make are the same. I want to thank the City of Chicago working with us to try to work Ehe blll ouE, and with the Secretary of State's Officez and I just ask for your concurrence on House Amendment 1 to SenaEe Ei11 122.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Demuzio.

Well, Mr. Presidenty it's my understanding that Senate Bill 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 l22 was one af those thirty-six bills that came out of the House with a fiscal note that wasn't accurate, and I'm curious: as to *he fact that the Speaker has admitted to thirty-six bills - this is one of them - whether or not there is a fiscal note filed to this and whether or not -- what is -- what is the disposition of those bills that the Speaker has indicated in the House that had these -- Ehese notes. Are they holding their bills in the House, pending new fiscal notes, or not?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) You're asking me what the House is doing? I have no clue, Senator. Senator Demuzio.

Yesr I knew that, Mr. President, and I should have said 1111 - - 1'11 ask that -- 1'11 ask that question of the sponscr. I mean, are me, in fact, at liberty ta proceed with these -- these bills, or what's -- what's -- is the Speaker going to hold them and have neW fiscal notes requested? Or are we going to ask God how much these things cost, or -- just what are we doing?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Well, Senator, as you know, fiscal notes need to be filed before they leave 2nd Reading here in the Senate. The activity that's going on in the House in reqards to this really has no bearing on our action here. Senator Demuzio.

You just told me you didn't know What was going on in the House. I was asking the sponsor to respond.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Welle I don't necessarily belteve the sponsor needs Eo respond. Further discussion? Senator -- Senator Demuzlo.

Will the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 105  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEAAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 The sponsor indlcates he w111 yield, Senator Denuzio.

Senator Xlemm: you want to respond to the question just asked?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Klemm .

Wellr a flscal note would be only responsible in the Chamber that it was asked for, the first place. There Was none posted in the Senate that I'm aware oft and I don't kncw of really any cost that's really involved in it, in the first place.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Carroll.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Following up with Senator Demuzio, caused to be filed yesterday and again today a -- a bill -- an amendment to a House bill that would say that When a fiscal noee has been filed in the Housp -- in either Chamber - but in this case, the House - when the bill comes to the second Chamber: there should be a verification of the fiscal note so that we know, at least, in the second Chamber that there has been a writing from the appropriate agency or constieutional officer as to the fiscal impaet. find lt curious that youfre saying we don't know what the House does, and of ccurse, we never do and never probably want to# but when I offered that amendment, Senator Dillard, as a Member of the CommlEEee iE was his - said he would not entertain such a -- an amendment. I have lt today again front of the Rules Committee on a bill -- on House Bill 2251, and I think if we were qoing to be sincere worrying about fiscal impact and not getting bogged down with What the House may or may not have done, we should require that if a fiscal note had been filed in the other Chamber, that ue geE a l06  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 confirmation of it in this Chamber before We take action.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Klemm, to close.

Well: thank you, Mr. -- President. Again, don't know What's happening over in the House any more than some of the others. We have our agenda filled here. This bill received support over in the House. Ehink we resolved a1l the questions that both the City of Chicago and the Secretary of State has. know of no oppositionr ask for your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) This final action, to remind the Membership of that. And the question is, shall Senate -- the Senate concur in House Amendments No. to Senate Bill 122. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedr vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 46 voting Yese voting No, 8 voting Present. Senate Bill 122: having received the required constitutional majority -- the Senate does concur in House Amendments No. 1 to Senate Bill 122, and the bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 162, on page 10, on the Order of Concurrence. Senate Bill 162. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.

move to concur with the House in the adoption of thelr Amendments l and 2 to Senate Bill 162. Signed by Senator Klemm . PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Klemn. SENATOR KLEMM) Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate 107  STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22r 1995 Bill 162 Was a clarification that I wanted to add to the Illinois Farm Bureau, who wanted some clarlfication on the words ''pclitleal subdivlsionsf'. As you know, the underlying bill only relies -- or, only depends on the zoning of a punicipality, and the Fire Marshal does the rest of the aboveground storage tanks. This would clarify that zoning requirements and regulations are the only ones that can be enforced. It's supposed -- it's supported by everyone and not opposed by anyone. So T do ask for your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Senator Woodyard .

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. don't have a question for the sponsorr but as President today, would you mind coming over here and giving your undergrcund storage tank speech again? Oh...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Any other discussion? This ls final actlon. The question is, shall the Senate concur House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 162. Those in favcr, vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take the record. 0n that question, there are the Senate does concur on that -- in House Amendments l and 2 to Senate Bill 162, and the bill, having recelved the requlred constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Sieben, on the Order of Non-concurrencer on page 12 of the Calendar, Senate Bill 741. Mr. Secretary.

move to non-concur with the House in the adoption of their Amendment No. 3 to Senate Bill 741. Flled by Senator Sieben.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Sieben.

I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislatlve Day May 22, 1995 I Thank ycu, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I simply preferred what was in the underlying bill, and with the House amendments, they took out the original provisions. So I Would move to non-concur and send it back over to the House and see if they won't recede. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Sieben moves to non-concur in House Amendment No . 3 to Senate Bill 741. A1l those in favcr, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have itr and the motion carriesr and the Secretary Will so inform the House. Senator Berman, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR BERMAN: Thank you, Mr. President. On the bottom of page -- I'm sorry - - bottom of page l3, I filed previously a motion to reccnsider on House Bill 1940. I would ask for leave to withdraw that motion. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSCN) Senator Berman asks leave to withdraw the motion on Hcuse Bill 1940. Youdve heard the motion. A1k those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have itr and the motion prevails. Mr. Secretary, have there been any other motions filed? SECRETARY HARRY: Yes, Mr. President. Senator DeAngelis has filed a mation with respect to House Bill 955. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Mr. Chair -- or, Mr. Secretary, the Chair requests that these motiong be printed on the Calendar, and it's so ordered. IE's the intenticn of the Chair to go to page 13. Page 13 on the Calendar. consideration postponed. We'11 go risht down the order there. I stand corrected. There are only two House bills to be considered. The others have passed the deadline - the Senate bills. So We will proceed with House Bill 989. Senator Weaver. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill. It's been read a third time . Senator Weaver, you may proceed. 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legiskative Day May 22, 1995

Thank you, Mr. President. House Bill 989 has to do with the adjustment of compensation for regional superintendents. The number of superintendents is bqing reduced from fifty-six to forty-five in August, and the savings in this reduction in the nunber would offset any increase in salary. So, We explained this bill last week, and fell a -- a vote short. But anyone has any questions, 1'11 be happy to answer.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Would like to remind the Body that generally we just have *he legislation explained and then one opponent would speak. Senator O 'Danielp do you rise as an opponent.

. .. rkse as an opponent. mean, support it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) There seens to be no cbjection. So, the question isr shall House Bill 989 pass. Those in favor: vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? Have a11 voted Nho wish? Take the record. On thaE question, there are 42 voting Yes, voting No, voting Present. House Bill 989: havin: received the required constitutional majoriky, is declared passed. I*'s the intention of the Chair... We are on page 13. We're on page 13 of the Calendar, bottom of the page, Motions in Wrlting to Reconsider the Vote. Read the motlon, Mr. Secretary.

Having voted on the prevailing side, I move to reconsider the vote by which House Bill 1850 failed. Filed by Senator Hawklnson.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senakor Hawkinson. 110  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day 8a# 1995

Thank you, Mr. Prestdent. Having voted on the prevailing side on this issue, which was the new money and the expansion of the Rural Bond Bank, I made about ten phone calls, including had conversations with the Farm Bureau: the Township Officialsy the United Counties Councilr in addition to some mayors and county people back home. Pound that the bill as written met with no cbjecticn from those groupsr and therefore, filed this motion to reconslder.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) It takes thirty votes to reconsider. All those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Have a1l voted kho wish? Take the record. On that questlon, there are 55 voting Yes, l votlng No. The motion earries. And now *he question before the Senate... Senator petka, on House Bill 1850. Senator Petka.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. I -- ftrst of all, I appreciate the opportunity to revisit this issuer and I thank Senator Hawkinson. This amendment Was strongly debahed the last time that it went down. Since that tlme, Lieutenant Governor Kustra has sent out a letter which nore than adequately explains the reason why Ehis and especially Amendment No. l are a good idea. This amendment Will enable the Rural Bond Bank to provide low-cost capital to rural communities in the collar counties. By inereaslng *he bond volume, it uould lower the costs of borrowing. And also , we uill increase the downstate access to the Rural Bond Bank by an -- an additional twenty-five million dollars. For those reasons, Mr. President, Members of the Senate: I urge adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Any discusslon? If not: the  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION 6ENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 question is, shall House Bill 1850 pass. A1l those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The votin: is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who Nish? Have a1l voted Who wish? Take the rgcord. On that quqstionr there are 52 votin: Yes, 4 voting No, no voting Present. House Bill 1850, having received the required constitutional majortty, is declared passed. We are in *he process of distributing Supplemental Calendar No. 1. I believe the Calendar has been distributed, and we are in *he Order of Mctions in Writing to Reconsider *he Voke. That motion will be made by Sênator DeAngells. Mr. President T beg your pardon. Mr. Secretary, please read the motlon.

Having voted on the prevailing side, I meve to reconsider the vote by which House Bill 955 failed. Filed by Senator DeAngelis.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank youy Mr. President. Having voted on the prevailing side, move to reconsider the vote by which House Bill 955 was passed Ksic>.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Al1 thcse in favor of ehe moticnr say Aye. Actually, we need a recorded vote. W9 need a recorded vote: so you will vote Aye. Opposed, vote Nay. The votlng is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Have voted who wish? Have a11 voted who Wish? Take the record. There are 30 votlng Yesp 23 votln: No, 5 voting Present. And the motion carries. The legislaEion has been rêad a third time and is noW before us. And, Senator Jacobsp for what purpose do you rise? All you'd have to dor Senatorr is push the button.

112  1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION i SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 It's on. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Itfs on now, but lt hasn 't been until this particular time. Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Verificatlon, Mr. Presldent. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Verification of the affirmatlve vote. Senator Jacobs has requested a verification. Wi11 al1 the Senators be in their seats. The Seeretary will read the affirmative votes. SECRETARY HARRY: The following voted in the affirmative: Burzynskir Butler, Clayborne, Croninr DeAngelis, Donahue, Dudycz, Fawell, Geo-Karis, Hasara, Rawkinson, Karpielr Klemm, Madiqanr Mahar, Maitlandr O 'Daniel, O 'Malley, Parker, Peterson, Petkar Raica, Rauschenberger, Rea: Sieben, Walsh, Watson, Weaver, Woodyard , and Mr. President. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Jaeobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Senator Rauschenberger. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rauschenberger? As you know, SenaEor Jacobs, there is meetings outside this Floor going on. We would like tc gtve *he Senator an oppartuntty to -- Senator Rauschenberger? He 's in the phone -- Senator Rauschenberger? Senator Rauschenberger on the Floor? Mr. President, for what purpose do you rise, Senakor Philip? SENATOR PHILIP: Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of khe SenaEe. point of personal privilege. For, unfortunately, Senator Rauschenberger, one -- as you know, the Chairman of the 1 ll3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 1995 Appropriations Committee. He has been down in the Governor's Office trying to get us out of here on time and is nesotlatlng. He on his way up here. And what do you know? Here he PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rauschenberger has returned. Senator Jacobs, do yOu...

Senator Rea.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rea? He's in the back of the Chamber here, on the Democrat side.

think -- I sak Senator Hawkinson a minu*e ago, so I think he's here. Senator Maitland.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (GENATOR WATSON) Senakor Jones, for what purpose do you rise? Senator Maitland is in the Chamber. Senator Jacobs.

First of all, 1e* me stater before I ask one more, because there's one more I do Want to ask. It is strange that our Minority Spokesman on Appropriaticn was sitting here whenever the meetings were going on. Senator Raica?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Do you questicn the presence of Senatcr Raica?

He's here. Senator O 'Malley? PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR WATSON) Genator O 'Malley on *hP Floor? Senator O'Malley? Senator O'Ma11ey. Senator O'Malley is present.

Senator Ralph Dunn. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR WATSON)  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legëslative Day May 22, 1995 Ralph Dunn didn't vote.

Thank you, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) On a verified roll call, the Ayes are 30, the Nays are 23r 5 voting Present. The motion to reconsider is adopted. We are now on House Bill 955. Senator Karpielr on House Bill 955. Senator Karpiel. SENATOR KARPIELJ Thank you, Mr. President. 1'11 just be happy to bake the last roll call. I don't know that we need any more debate on thls. I just move for passage of House Bill 955. In case -- I do want to sayr hawever, in case any of you haven't heard' that the House did consider -- Senate Bi11 836, and it did pass. So I think ke can stop playing those kinds of games right now.

PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) As you recall, we have one proponent, which we just heard from , the sponsor, and We'11 have one opponenty and that will be Senator Palmer.

I am not going to speak long either. But I would say to you who have daughters on this Ploor that in thts day and age, as We approaeh the twenty-first century, you ought to try in every conceivable way to leave as many doors open as you ean for these young women and not to believe that you can legislate family relationships. If you believe that *he government ought to stay out of people's bedrooms and out of their lives, then you ought to vote No on this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATGON) The question is, shall House Bill 955 pass. All those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedr vote No. The votkns is open . Have al1 voted who wish? Have a11 votgd gho wish? Have all voted Who ll5 '  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22r 1995 wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the reccrd. On that question, there are 31 vcting Yes, 18 voting Nc , 9 voting Present. House Bill 955, havlng received khe required constitutional najority, is declared passed. Leave Was previously granted for Senator Rauschenberger and the Body to return to page 6, House Bill 1279. Mr. Secretary, please read the bl11.

House Bill 1279. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rauschenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This is a vehicle bill which we hope to need for budget implementation this week. It's been amended with an effective date. We'd like to send it to the House, with the support of the Body.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Any discussion? Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. just want tc remind cur Members that none of us know What's going to land in this bill, including suspension of prompt payment or anything else, and I would suggest either a No or or Present vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further dlscussicn? Senator Collins. :ENATOR COLLINS: Senator Severns -- I could just say 'ditto' to What she said. That was my words.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Any other discussion? Further discussion? Senator  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day 8aY 1995 Rauschenberger.

Just request a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) The question isr shall House Bill 1279 pass. A11 those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, voEe No. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Take the record. On that questionr there are 35 voting Yes, 15 voting No, 9 voting Present. House Bill 1279, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Continue on to page 7. We ask leave of the Body -- at the particular time of the Body that we could return to page 7, House Bill 2403. Leave was granted . And, Senator Rauschenberger. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.

House Bi11 2403. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading cf the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rauschenberger.

Thank you. Thisr again, is a shell bill which we bve amended an effective date and would like to send over to the House so positioned for: hopefully, some compromises as We Wind up the negotiations. I Would appreciate a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Discussion? Senator Severns.

Thank you, Mr. President. just wanted to say again, and hope this side is listening. It's very elear that we dvg noE been included ln one meeting on -- on the budget negotiations or the Mediplan Plus negotiaEions. We don ': know whaE's belng  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GERERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 1995 negotiated, since we're not at the table. I Would suggest a No vote cr Present vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Smith.

Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen. I merely want to caution the people that this is another vehicle bill and you don 't know What's in it. So I would vote either Present or No. Thank you.

PRESTDTNG OFFICER: (SENATOR SATSON) Further discussicn? Senator Rauschenberger: to close.

I'd just like to close with, I can Eell you precisely whatfs in nothing, except for an effective date. So if you 're concerned that there's nothing that's one thing. If you 're concerned what might end up in it: that's another issue. I'd appreciate a favorable roll call.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) The questlon is, shall House Bill 2403 pass. those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that questlon, there are 34 voting Yes, 14 voting Nor voting Present. House Bill 2403, having received the required constitutional majority: is declared passed. Senator Rauschenberger, do you seek leave of the Body to return House Bill 2429 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendmenE? Leave is -- hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate <sicl Bill 2429. Mr. Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?

Amendment No. 1, offered by Senator Rauschenberger.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 1l8  STATE OF ILLINOIE 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Senator Rauschenbergpr.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. Eo House Bl11 2429 incorparates the CDB procurement kanquage that has been vorked on and agreed to over the last three years. I had hoped over the last couple years, With cooperation of Senator Severns and othersy to be able to do a complete rework of the Procurement Code, but we have not been able to pull that together through deficiencies and the fact I haven't spent enough time on it. This is merely the Section which deals with CDB procedures. CDB has been operating under these on a rules basis. This merely writes them into Statutes eo make sure that there's no changes in the future. Alloks for competitive bid - - bldding, publication of contracts, et cetera. I Would urge the support of the Body.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Any discussion? Senator Shaw.

Thank you: Mr. President. For legislative intent...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Spcnsor indicates he 'll yield, Senator Sbaw.

Do the -- do the provision of Senate Amendment 1 Eo House Bill 2429 any way inhibit or affect minarity, female or any persons with disabilities participation in regards to the State contracting -- ccnstruction contracts?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sena*or Rauschgnberggr.

The Amendment No. to House Bill 2429 in noN way affects the preference Sections of the Procurement Code as Currently Wrltten into law. CDB'S opinion on what the effect of the amendmen: would 1l9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day 8aY 1995 be would -- that it would increase the number of projects Where small contractors could effectively bid. So , in fact, it may be, you know, an impravement fcr bcth minority and disabled contractors, but it does not changer no way affects or repeals, the preference Section of the Procurement Code as exists Statute.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Seeing none, a1l those in favor, say Aye. Oppcsed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Any further Floor amendments approved for consideration?

No further amendments reported, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Mr. Secretaryr Committee Reports.

Senator Weaver, Chair of the Committee on Rulesr reports that *he following Legislative Measures have been assigned tc committees: Referred the Committee on Commerce and Industry - Senate Amendment 3 to House Bill 32; referred to the Committee on Education - motions to concur With House Amendments 4, 5, 6 and 7 Eo Senate Bi11 130, Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 141, and Amendment 4 to Senate Bill 150; to the Committee on Environment and Enerqy - Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Joint Resolution 21; to the Committee on Financtal Institutions a motion to concur with House Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 4337 to tbe Committee on Judiciary - motions to concur wikh House Amendment to Senake Bill 435, Anendment 1 to Senate Bill 447, Amendment l to Senate Bill 619, Amendment 6, 10 and 15 to Senate Bill 721, Amendments 4, 9, and to Senate Bill 838; to the Committee on Revenue - Amendment to House Bll1 15237 to the Committee on Transportation the motton to concur with House Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 5097 and Be Approved for Consideration - motions 120  STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIFT 55th Legislative Day Ma# 1995 to concur with Hcuse Amendment l tc Senate Bill 46, Amendment l to Senate Bill 169, Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 231: Amendment 2 <sic> (1 and 2) to Senate Bill 443, and Amendment 1 to Senate Bill 566.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Resolu*ions, Mr. Secretary.

Senate Resolution offered by Senator Cronin. It's substantive.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Butler, for what purpose do you risê?

For purposes of an announcement, please. The Commerce and Industry Committee will meet at 8:30 a.m - 8:30 a.m. Room 400.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Mahar, for what purpose do you rise?

Announcement, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR MAITLAND) State your...

The Senate Environment and Energy Ccmmittee meet at 9:30 in Room 400 tomorrow morning.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Hawkinson, for what purpose do you rise?

Purposes of an announcement, Mr. President. The Senate Judiciary Committee, tomorrow, will meek at 9 awm. in Room 400.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Barkhausenr for uhat purpose do you riser sir?

l2l  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 Also, for purposes of an announcement. The Senate Financlal Institutions Committee Will meet at 9:30, tomorrcw morning, in Room A-l.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Karpiel, for what purpcse do you rise; ma bam?

For purpose of an announcement.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Proceed.

The Senate Education Committee will meet tomorroN in -- at 10 o 'clock in A-l. 10 o'clock in A-l, Education.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Fawell, for what purpose do you rise, ma'am?

For pucpases of an announcement. The Transportation Committee will meet at 10 o'clock in Room 400. We have tWo motions to Concur On .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any further business to cone before the Senate? Yes, Senator Dudycz, for what purpose do you rise?

Yes, thank you, Mr. President. Just to remind the Members on this side lf the aisle, the Republkcan Members, that our Staff Appreciation Picnic is thls evening at 6 o'clock at the location that Was given tc you in the flyer. And apprgciate a1l the staff on the Republican side and the Senators attendingz and we expect some good weather and hope to have a good tlme. Dress accordlngly.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Peterson, for Nhat purpose do you rise?

122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Leglslative Day May 22, 1995 For the purposes of an anncuncement, Mr. President. The Revenue Comnittee will meet at 8 -- pardon me, at 9:30 in Room 212 to consider Senate Amendment 3 to House Bill 1523.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Demuzior for what purpose do you rise?

listened -- listened attentively to Senator Dudycz's announcement. lost my memorandum , my flyer. Could -- could he remind us where -- where the barbecue is? I -- lost my flyer.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Dudyczy for What purpose do you rise?

Senator Demuzio, had you been invitedr you would have received a flyer, but apparently you didn't lose it; you just didn't get one. This is the tenth annual one that We've had on this side of the aisle, and we appreciate our staff and our secretaries, and We Want to show their -- our appreclation for them by havin: a little picnic.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator...

But you can be inviEed -- -- Senator Demuzio, you can come as my personal guest, and 1'11 -- 1111 pour *he cup of beer for ycu.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Demuzio, to explain why the Senakors on the Democrat slde do not appreclate Eheir staff.

We we just got our no*ice at 404 West Jackson. So, 6 o 'clock, wedll a11 be there. Thanks.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any further business to come before the Senate? If  STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 55th Legislative Day May 22, 1995 not, Senator Demuzio moves that the Senate stand adjourned until 10:30, Tuesdayr May 23rd. l24 REPOHT: TIFLDAY STATE OP ILLINOIS 96/07/22 PAGE: 001 89TH GENEHAL ASSCMBLY 11:50:28 SEMATE DàlLï TRRNSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAf 22, 1995 :8-0032 SECOND REàDING HB-0041 RECALLED HB-0090 RECâLLED H8-0206 REFUSE TO RECEDB H8-0652 RECALLED H:-0820 SECOKD READING H8-0955 THIRD REZDINC H8-0955 HOTION H8-0955 MOT1ON FILED H3-0989 POSTPONED CONSIDERATiON H8-0999 RECALLED H8-1089 SECOND RERDING HB-1108 THIRD REâDINC HB-12k6 THIED REâDING HB-12)8 RECALLED H8-1268 THIRD READIHG H8-1279 THiRD READING HB-1%37 THIRD REâDING HB-1462 THIRD READING HB-1R65 RECZLLED HB-1RT3 SECOND READING HB-1q7M SECOMD READIMG RB-158? RECALLED HB-16O8 THIRD READIMG R8-1654 SECOND REâDIMG HB-178? THIRD RZADIPG H8-1792 THIRD READING H8-185û HQTIC: :8-1940 HOTION HB-21û8 SECOMD REZDING 98-2226 RECZLLED H8-2251 SECOMD READING H8-2330 RECALLED HB-23?0 THIRD READIKC HB-2R03 THIRD HEADING H8-2:29 RECALLED SB-0122 CONCURREMCE :8-0162 CONCURRENCE sB-0741 NON-CONCURREPCE SR-00?5 RESOLUTION OFFERED SUBJECT HATTEH SENZTE TO ORDER-SEMATOR HEZVEB PAGE 1' PRZYER-PASTOR GàYLORD B/SS PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIAMCE PAGE 1 JOPRNALS-POSTPOMED P2GE 1 C3MHITTEK REPQRT: PZGE 1 HESSAGES FROM THE HOUSE PAGE 3 INTRODUCTION OF OUESTS-PRESIDEMT PHILIP PAGE 75 CUEST SPERKER-DECRETARf OF STATE RYAN PAGE 76 GUEST SPEZKER-U.S. SEMâTOR PHIL CRZMH PAGE 76 COHMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 120 âDJCURNMEMT PâGE 12R