The regular Session of the 89th General Assembly will please come to order. Will the Members please be at their desks, and Will our guests in the galleries please rise. 0ur prayer today will be given by Pastor Norman Mendell, United Mekhodist Church, Ashland (sic) (Athens), Illinois. Pastor Mendell.
(Prayer given by Pastor Norman Mendell)
Will you please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. Senator Sieben.
(Pledge of Allegiancer 1ed by Senator Sieben)
Reading of the Journal.
Senake Journal of Friday, March 22nd, 1996.
Senator Butler.
Mr. President, I move that khe Journal just read by the Secretary be approved, unless some Senator has additions or eorrections ko offer.
Senator Butler moves to approve the Journal just read. There being no objection, so ordered. Senator Butler.
Mr. President, move that reading and approval of the Journal of Monday, March 25th, in the year 1996, be postponeds unless some Senator -- I'm sorry -- postponed, pendkng arrival of the printed Journal.
STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENENAT,ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Senator Butler moves ko approve -- to postpone the reading and the approval of the Journal, pending the arrtval of the printed 1 i transcripts. There being no objection, so ordered. Messages from the House.
A Message from the House by Mr. McLennand, Clerk. Mr. Presidenk - I am directed to inform the Senate thak ! the House of Representatives has passed bills of the following titles, in the passage of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Bills 379, 2587, 2773, 3052, 3091 and 3613. We have a like Message on House Bills 885, 2347, 2618, 3050: 3367, 3436, 3520, 3618: 3625 and 3629. Al1 passed khe House, March 25th, 1996. E PRESIDENT PHILIP: i House Bills lst Reading.
House Bill 1056, offered by Senator Hawkinson. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2571, by Senator Rauschenberger. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senator Parker offers House Bill 2697. (Secretary reads title of bill) p House Bill 2836, by Senator Burzynski. I (Secretary reads tikle of bill) House Bill 2860, by Senator Walsh. (Secretary reads title of bill) Senator Raica offers House Bill 2916. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3128, offered by Senator Butler. ! (Secretary reads kitle of bill) ' House Bill 3451, offered by Senator Bomke. 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY RSGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26: 1996 (Secrekary reads eitle of b1ll) House Bill 3578, by Senator Raica. (Secretary reads title of bill) And House Bill 3669, presented by Senator Bomke. (Secretary reads title of bill) 1st Reading of khe bills.
o..and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senator Peterson and nyself are very proud to introduee very -- two lovely, young ladies: and honored to have them here before the Senate. The first one that I will introduce is Miss Teresa Nudo, age seventeeng daughker of Silvio and Francesca and a high school junior at Woodlands Academy in Lake Forest. She was crowned Miss Illinois American Teen. She represented the beautiful State of Illinois at the National Pageant held in Florida during Thanksgiving week and was fourth runner-up in the kalent competikion, while playing her piano rendition of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony and the Great Balls of Fire. She enjoys playing the piano, dancing, playing sports, acting and singing, and I am honored to honor our youth. Teresa.
Good morning. My name is Teresa Nudo, and it is kruly my pleasure and an honor, as Miss Illinois American Teenr to be standing up here in front of you, especially thanking Senakor Kathy Parker for this opportunity. Ilve made numerous appearances and speaking engagements throughout the Land of Lincoln. Some of them include enkerkaining and visiting tbe Illinois Pre-Teen Pageant where I got to see Maria crowned, and I volunteer my time at soup kitchens, nursing homes and with whomever I meet. During my reign I've learned thak it is not khe crown that you wear upon your head that makes you special, but your true inner self and whak you have to offer; Thank you.
3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENAQE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Good morning. It's a pleasure for me to introduce Maria Rito, I who's twelve years old and the daughter of Mickey and Tommy Rito, and she was crowned Miss Illinois American Pre-Teen Hostess and 1 the most promising model for 1995/96. She resides in Lake Zurich, l I i Illinois, and Maria is -- represented Illinois in the 95th National Pageant in Orlando, Florida over the Thanksgiving holidays and came in seventh overall. She is a sixth-grade I cheerleader and honor roll student at St. Anne's School in i Barrington, and she enjoys singing, dancing, playing the piano, tennis and acting. It's a pleasure for me to introduce a1l of you to Maria Rito. Maria.
Good morning. My name is Maria Angela Rito. I am Miss Illinois American Pre-Teen Hostess. It is an honor to be able to E speak in front of your Session. Since winning the pageant, I have felt more confidence in myself than ever. I always think shoot for the moon, 'cause if you miss, youdll still be among the stars, , and that your best is your best in whatever you do. A great thanks goes out to Senator Bill Peterson for letting me have this great experience. I've done many thinqs during my reign, such as I ! Make A Wish Foundation events, meeting With many government ' officials and been in numerous parades. It has been my pleasure to represent Illinois as Miss Illinois American Pre-Teen Hostess. I Thank you. I . !
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) ... intenkion of the Chair ko go to page 2 and begin on Senake Bills 2nd Reading. And just to remind the Members that this is the 1 deadline weeks and a1l of you who wish ko have your bills out of the Senate, must :et them in order to do so. So I would suggest I i that as we go through the Calendar today, you make serious consideration ko move your legislakion wikh immediake dispateh. I ! Once again, wedll renind the Membership wedre going to begin on i 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY I REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 page 2. Top of the page 2. Senate Bills 2nd Reading, and the first bill is Senate Bill 522. Senator Parker. Senator Parker, do you wish Senate Bill -- Mr. Secretary, please read the bill. ,
Senate Bill 522. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2 i nd Reading of the bill. The CoM ittee on Judiciary adopted M endments l and 2.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Have there been any Floor amendments that have been approved I for consideration?
No further amendments reported, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1228. Senator DeAngelis. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1228. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER r (SENATOR WATSON) ! 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1245. Senator DeAngelis. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1245. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Com ittee on Executive adopted M endment No. l. I
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Have there been any Floor amendments that have been approved for consideration? 1
5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 No further amendments reported. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) ! 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1363. Senator DeAngelis. Mr. Secrekary: please read the bill. j
Senate Bill 1363. i (Secretary reads kitle of bill) ! 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1370. Senator Mahar. Out of the E record. Senate Bill 1380. Senator Philip. Please read the -- the bill, Mr. Secretary. I
Senate Bill 1380. I (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee or Floor amendmenks. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1381. Senator Sieben. Out of the reeord. Senate Bill 1437. Senator Woodyard. Out of the record. ! Senate Bill 1511. Senator Syverson. This is 2nd Reading. Mr. Secretary: please read the bill. SECRETARY NANNY: ! Senate Bill 1511. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Comnittee on Revenue adopted ! Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I Have there been any Floor amendments that have been approved for consideration? SBCRETARY NANKY : ! No further amendments reporked. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAL ASSEMBLX REGDLAR SESSION ' SENATE TKANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26p 1996 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1515. Senator Madigan. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1522. Senator Philip. Mr. Secretaryp please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1522. . (Secretary reads title of bill) ! 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Have there been any Floor amendments that have been approved for consideration?
No amendments reportedy Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1544. Senator Rauschenberger. Senator Rauschenberger on the Ploor? Senate Bill 1544. 0ut of the record. Senake Bill 1556. Senakor Palmer. Please read the ! bill, Mr. Secretary.
Senake Bill 1556. (Secretary reads title of bill) l 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Healkh and Welfare adopted Amendment No. 1. I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Have there been any Floor amendments that have been approved ' for consideraEion?
No further amendnents reported.
PRZSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1578. Senator Mahar? Mr. Seeretary, please read the bill. !
Senate Bill 1578. ! 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1 I 88th Legislakive Day March 26, 1996 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of khe bill. The Committee on Environment and Energy adopted Anendment No. 1.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Are there any Floor amendments that have been approved for consideration? SECRETARY NADDY: ' No further amendnents reported.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1640. Senakor Weaver. Ouk of the ' record. Senate Bill 1669. Senakor Lauzen. Senator Lauzen on the Floor? Senator Lauzen. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1671. Senakor Lauzen. Senator bauzen on the Floor? 0ut of the record. i Senate Bill 1712. Senator Lauzen. Out of the record. 1749. Senator Woodyard. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill. SECRETARY NAPDY: ! Senate Bill 1749. 1 (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Agriculture and Conservation adopted Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) r Are there any Floor amendments that have been approved for consideration? SECRETARY NAPRY: l Amendnent No. 2, offered by Senator Woodyard.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Woodyard, to explain your amendment.
Thank gou, Mr. President, Members of the Committee (sic). The underlying bill here deals with the Illinois Farm Development Authority on its loan guarantee authorization. Amendment No. 1 -- Floor Amendment No. l (sic), was requested by the University of 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89QH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT l 88th Legislative Day March 26p 1996 Illinois to try to alleviate the problem that's been creaeed in a decrease in funds in cooperative extension used for the matches to various counties. Qhis would actually set up a -- a Service Trust Fund administered by Department of Agriculture to make up the difference on those funding levels in cooperative extension.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Senakor Woodyard moves the adoption of Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1749. Those in favor, say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the -- the amendment is adopted. Senate Bill -- are there any further amendmenks, Mr. Secretary?
No further amendnents reporked.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1757. Senator Weaver? Mr. Secretarye please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1757. (Secreeary reads tikle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee or Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1758. Senator Weaver. Please read the bill, Mr. Secretary.
Senate Bi11 1758. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No eommittee or Floor amendments.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1823. Senator ' Syverson? I beg your I pardon. Senate Bill 1770. Senator Woodyard. Please read the ; bill, Mr. Secretary.
! 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENZRAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I Senate Bill 1770. 1 (Secretary reads title of bill) I I 2nd Reading of the bill. The Commlttee on Transportation adopted i Amendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) ! Are there any Floor amendments that have been approved for I consideration? ! SECRETARY NANNX: j No further amendments reported. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I j 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1823. Senator Syverson. Please j ! read the bill, Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY NADKX: I I Senate Bill 1823. j (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Judiciary adopked I : Amendment No. 1. I I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Are there any Floor amendments that have been approved for l : consideration? !
No further amendments reported, Mr. President. ! PRESIDING OFFICERZ (SENATOR WATSON) I 3rd Readinq. With leave of the Body weld like to go back to page 3 -- kop of the page 3. Senate Bills 2nd Reading. Senate I Bill 1544. Hearing no objection, leave being granted, Senator ! Rauschenberger, on Senate Btll 1544. Mr. Secretary, would you ' please read the bill. ;
I Senate Bill 1544. (Secretary reads kikle of bill) E 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Health and 10 1 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE QRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Welfare adopted Anendment No. 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Have there been any Floor amendnents approved for consideration? SECRETARY NANRY: No further amendments reported. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Intention of the Chair to go to Senate Bills 3rd Reading. Bottom of paqe 3. Actually, wefre going to commence from where we left off last Frtday, which is on page 5 of today's Calendar, and it begins with Senate Bill 1365. Senator Jones. That's Where we will begin. We will begin on page 5 with Senate Bill 1365. Senator Jones. Senator Jones wish to have Senate Bi1l 1365 called on 3rd Reading? Out of the record. Senake Bill 1378. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1386. Senator Weaver? Oue of *he record. Senate Bill 1389. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1390. Senator Rausehenberger? Senator Rauschenberger, do you Wlsh this bill returned to 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment? Senator Rauschenberger seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1390 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Hearlng no objection, leave being granted, on the Orderof2ndReadingisSenate Bill 1390. Mr. Secretary, are there 1 I any rloor amendments approved for consideration? SECRETARY NADDY: Amendment No. 3: offered by Senator Rauschenberger. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR WATSON) Senator Rauschenberger: to explain your anendment. SENATOR RAUSCHENBERGER: ' The amendment that wedre adding to the bill meets the 1 objections of the Illinois Environmental Council, makes some I language changes: and itls a clean-up. It's an agreed-to. I There's -- there were seven proponenks and no -- no opponents. I ( I 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 i I 1 seek favorable consideration. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor: say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Arethereany further Floor amendments approved for 1 consideration? '
No further amendments reported. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) E 3rd Readinq. With leave of the Body, we'd like to go back ko Senate Bill 1378. Senator Woodyard would like to call that bill. Hearing no objeetion, leave being granked, we are on the Order of 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1378. Senakor Woodyard. Mr. Secretary, I please read the bill. I
Senate Bill 1378. ! (Secretary reads tikle of bill) ! 3rd Reading of the bill. ! PRESI S DINGOFFICER: (SENATORWATSON) 1 ! enator Woodyard. SENATOR WOODYARD: : Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. 1378 started i out as -- as really just kind of a shell bill, and there are two conponents to this bill now. One -- the first part was requested by Departnent of Revenue that would allow a continuing 1 appropriation within Deparkment of Revenue on reinbursement to I some of the counties. The second part of this bill was an amendment suggested by Senator Butler, and if I could, I would like to yield to hin to explain the second component of Senate ! Bill 1378. I ! PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I Senator Butler. 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAT. ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26y 1996
Thank you very muche Mr. President. The amendment adds language which was requested by a Des Plaines orqanization called the Institute of Gas Technology. It is vritten very narrowly. Specifically, the amendment creates a property tax exemption category for academic or research institukes that are 50l(c)(3) and which operate for the benefit of the public by actually and exclusively performing scientific research and naking the results of khat research available to the interested public on a nondiscriminatory basis. The Illinois Gas Institute noved to Des Plaines fron Chicago in 1993. While in Chicago, khe Instikute was situated on the campus of the Illinois Institute of Technoloqy and paid no property taxes. Howeverz after moving to kheir new location, the Cook County Assessor determtned they Were not exempt. The Department of Revenue, incidentally, upheld that ruling. This Institute is strickly educational, and ik's difficult to imagine vhy it should not be categorized as such. I will answer al1 questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Discussion? Senator Welch.
I had a question of the -- the sponsor. PRESIDING OFPICZRI (SENATOR WATSON) I guess thaE vould be Senakor Woodyard.
Yes.
PRESIDING OFPICZR: (SENATOR WATSON) The Senator will yield, Senator Welch.
Senator Woodyard, my understanding is that this will create a Qounty Public Safety Retailers' Occupation Tax Fund, which allows for a trust fund held outside the State treasury, and the money 13 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 would go directly back to the county that passes a tax. Is that - - is that correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WAQSON) Senator Woodyard.
Yes. That is correct.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Welch.
HoW many counties have passed the tax that Would trigger this Fund bein: implemenked?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Woodyard.
Senator Welch, I don't really know.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Welch.
My understanding is, there was one county that tried to do it, and that was Winnebago County, and that was on the ballot last Tuesday and the tax was voted down. So there are no counties to generate the money to implement this proposal.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENAQOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Berman.
have a question of Senator Butler.
PRESIDING OTFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Butler indicates he will yield, Senator Berman.
Senator Butler, as I read this, this Instltute appealed to the Department of Revenue and other -- ko determlne that ik was tax exempt, and the Department turned it down. Do you know any of the 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 reasons why they turned it doWn2
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR WATSON) Senator Bukler.
No. I have no idea. Incidentally: the City of Des Plaines and the local school diskrict support this.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Purther discussion? Senator Berman.
Well, they may -- I find that interesking, bue I think an interesting questton here is that four-hundred-thousand-dollar tax bill is going to be assumed by khe taxpayers of Des Plaines and Cook County. That, I think, is an intereseing reason for us to take a very hard look at this proposal. If this was a -- an entity -- khe Institute was an entiky that should not be paying real estate taxes: I would sugqest to you that khe Department of Revenue has the expertise ko have determined that and to have granted them their tax exemption. They turned down their tax exemption, and nov wedre beinq asked to provide them with a legislative tax exemption. hnd I'm not sure that I'/e heard enough or that I know enough upon which to impose four hundred thousand dollars of tax burden on the residents of Des Plaines or Cook County, reqarding this enkity. So 1, at this point, would urge a No vote.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there further discussion? Seeing none, Senakor Woodyard or Butler, do you wish to close? Senakor Butler.
Well, I would ask -- I would ask for a favorable vote. Keep in nind that khe principal area affecting this would be the town and the school districte and b0th of them are in favor of it. Also, keep in nind that Department of Revenue can only interprek 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPT ; 88th Legislative Day March 26e 1996 . 1 whatexistsintheStatute.And itseemstome that this -- in 1 view of all the jobs it brought to Des Plaines, itls a very beneficial eneityy and we should support it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) The question is: shall Senate Bill 1378 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have all votedwhowksh? Havea11votedwho wish? Have a1l vote; who j ! wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. Onthat 1 questionw there are 8 voting ïes, 42 voting No, 2 voting Present. Senate Bill 1378, having not received the required constitutional majority,isdeclaredfailed. WefredownnowtoSenateBill1391 1 Senato . 1 rMahar. 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1391. Out of the 1 record. SenateBill1402. Outoftherecord. SenateB1l11407. 1 Mr.Secretary,pleasereadthebill. j SECREQAR: HARRY: Senate Bill 1407. ! (Secretary reads title of bill) ! 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDINC OFFICER: (EENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. This bill merely allows local township boards ko appoint fire protection trustees in cook county where the district does not 1ie : wholly within a single nunicipality or township. I would ask for I a favorable voke. I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I i Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Senator Trotter. SENATOR TROTTER: I Thank you very much, Mr. Prestdent. Will the sponsor yleld? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I Sponsor indicates she'1l yield,Senator Trotter. 1 I ! i 16 SQATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GCNERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SSSSION SENATE QRANSCRIPQ 88kh Legislative Day March 26, 1996
Good morning, Senator Parker. Just a couple questions. I believe I asked you the same questions in comnlttee. One is, this bill addresses three-member boards. Many fire protection distrlcts have five-nember boards. Is there any reason why your bill doesn't address the five-member board?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
Senatorz they are all included in this bill.
PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further questions? Senator Trotter.
Yes. Okay. I guess I couldn't flnd it in there. Do you know exactly where? I didn't see the language that addressed the appoinemene of five-member boards.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
The five- and seven-menber boards refer back to the three-member appointments. PRESIDING OPFICERt (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Trotter.
Okay. Currenk laws allow for fire protection districts ko convert to an elected board. Is there any reason why there is not language in your bill addresslng eleeted boards?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SSNATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
Because theydre elected.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENZRAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Senator Trotter.
Theydre -- I thought it said theydre appointed. Theydre presently appointed. Correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
Senatorr my bill only affecks appointed fire trustees. So there wouldn't be any polnt in talking about the elected.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Trotter.
Presently these appokntments are made by the Cook County Board President. Is there any reason why we can't have township officials subnit a list to the President for him to make his selections rather than having a bill?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
Senatory there are thirty townships in Cook County, and around twenty of those are already appointed by the nethod wedre talking about now. However, ten don't lie wholly in there. So what we feel is that they should be -- have the opportunity of beinq appoinked by the local people in the area that really know them best. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR WATSON) Any further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Parker, to close.
I would ask for a favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) The question is, shall Senate Bill 1407 pass. Those in favor, 18 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day Mareh 26, 1996 voEe Aye. Opposed: Nay. The voting ls open. Have a1l voted Who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted Who wish? Take the record. On that question: there are 31 voting ïes, 19 voting No, no voting Present. Senate Sill 1407, havin: received the required constikutional majorityr is declared passed. Senate Bill -- Senator Trotter: for what purpose do you rtse?
Verification of the roll call, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) A verification has been asked, and that is in order. Wtll the Members please be ln kheir seats. Senator Trotter has asked for a verification, and as I had mentioned, we would like all Senators eo be in their seat. And the Secretary will read the affirmative votes. Mr. Secretary.
The folloWing Members voted in the affirmakive: Bomkee Bowles: Burzynski, Butler, Cronin, DeAngelisr Debeor Dlllard, Donahue, Dudycz, Fawell, Fikzgerald, Geo-Karis, Hawkinsong Karpiel, Lauzen: Luechtefeld, Mahar, Parker, Peterson, Pekkap Raica: Rauschenberger, Rea, Sieben, Syverson, Viveritoy Walsh, Watsony Weaver and Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Trokter, do you question the presence of any Member?
Senator DeLeo .
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator DeLeo? Senator DeLeo, are you in the Chamber? Senator DeLeo. Mr. Secretary: please skrike his name.
Senator Rea.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rea. Senator Jim Rea? ïou in the Chamber, Senator 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SCSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Rea? Mr. Secretary, please strike his name. SENATOR TROTTER : Thank you . PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR WATSON) On a verified roll call, the Ayes are 29, the Nays are l9, and no voting Present. Senate Bill 1407, having not received the required constitutional majorityy i: declared failed. Senator Parker.
Mr. Presidentg I Would like to put it on Postponed Consideration.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Postponed Consideration. That motion is in order. Senate Bill 1408. Senator Luechtefeld. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1408. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of khe bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Luechtefeld.
Mr. President and Members of the Senate, Senate Bil1 1408 creates an Interstate Ozone Transport Oversiqht Act. It provtdes for a legislative review of any proposed memorandum of -- of understanding by the Ozone Transport Assessment Group . The Department of Natural Resources and Department of Commerce and Community Affairs are required eo seudy khe economic impaek of the emission reduction strategies contained in the memorandum of understanding. I would -- you know, this -- this really simply gives us a right to look at some of their -- some of their suggestions as to the ozone transport and, in the process, do a 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Leqislative Day March 26w 1996 study to see what kind of an economic impact this would have on our State, and I would ask that this be a favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senake Bill 1408 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 48 voting Yes, l voting No, no voting Present. Senake Bill 1408, having received the requtred constitukional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1419. Senator Maitland. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1424. Senator Madigan? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1440. Senator Parker? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1442. Senator Parker. Senate Bill 1448. Senator Fawell. Welre on the top of page 6. Senate Bill 3rd Readingz Senate Bill 1448. Senator Fawell, Would you like to have your bill called? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1459. Senator Walsh? Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1459. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Walsh.
Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 1459 provides that whoever enters or remalns within a buildingp other than a residence, withouk lawful aukhority is guilty of a Class B misdemeanory and I would be happy to answer any queskions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSQN) Discussion? Senakor Cullerton.
21 * STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE QRANSCRIPQ 88th. Leqislative Day March 26, 1996 -'' I : Yes. Would the sponsoryield? 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 1 Sponsor indicates he Will yield, Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CDLLERTON : Senator, we discussed this bill in comnittee, and I think we talked abouk the possibility of amending the bill. In fact, I -- I believe you offered an amendmenk. Has that amendment been adopted on the -- the bill? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSQN) Senator Walsh . SENATOR WALSH: No. It hasn't. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WAQSON) Senator Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTON: Well, maybe you eould possibly address the concerns that were raised in committee. I think that what Wedre doing here is, I think, chanqing the -- the elements of this offense, not just increasing the penaleies. I know I expressed a concern. I gave 1 an example of someone who Would be attending a basketball game and 1 leaving the gymnasium and cutting through khe -- the school on their way out. They could technically be in a -- in the school When they weren't supposed to be, but there Wouldn't have been any 1 . notices posked and in -- and lf I understand the effect of this I ! bill, potentially, someone could be charged with trespass, because j therefs no longer any need for any nokices. Even though they i : I inadvertently were in a locakion and didn'k have lawful authority I to be there, there would be no intent to trespass, and yetr they'd ! ! still be able to be charged with it. And I thought khat was What I I the amendment was qoing to address. So perhaps you could respond I to my concern. ! PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I 1 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT l 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Senator Walsh.
Well, Senator, that would be at the discrekion of the prosecutor's office, and we do have an amendment. With the deadline coming up on Friday, we Wanted to move this bill, and we would be putting an anendment on the bill in the Eouse, if that would be okay wikh you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Cullerton.
Mr. Speaker, youdre laughing because we -- wedve had promises to anend bills in the other house, but -- khe other Chamber, but I appreciate the fact there is a deadline, and as long as youdre recognizing the fack that this has some potential problems. 'Cause, you know, we always have the potential problen of the State's aktorneys belng up for election, being involved in a tough primary a couple days before and a11 of a sudden they could -- you know, the wrong State's attorney could have got elected, and they could be vindictive in krying to get even with Eheir opponent. And all that sort of stuff can happen. So it'd probably be better to limit their discretion in some areas, and khis would probably ! be a good one. So I'd be happy to support the bill and just hope that it comes back to us.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Clayborne. i
! Thank you, Mr. President. Would the sponsor yield?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sponsor indicates he'll yield, Senator Clayborne. i
! At What point does this bill kick in to be -- be a violaElon i of the law? It appears to me that this isa situationWhere 1 : 23 I 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAL ASSZMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 88thLegislativeDay March26,1996 1 j I there's a 1ot of discrekion involved, and if someone came into t 1 this Chamber and the Leaders determined that they shouldnIt be .1 I herer it appeaïs to me that they could be charged wtth a erime. 1 l 1 PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I j Senator W I alsh. 1 1 ssxhvo.swssu: What -- what this bill came f 1 l rom is a police officer. And I I I don't know if youfre on the committee, Senator, but a police I i offieer from LaGrange had a problem with people trespassing l 1 n j I personsl garages. Now, prior to thls, you'd have to post 1 l something on your garage that actually said, 'lyou may not enter ! I khis building. ' And if you didn't have that posting, then the I I 1 Prosecutors c0uldn't go after this indivldual, even though the i I person knew that they Were in a place that they shouldn't be. So I I i what welre trying to do ls just give -- give the prosecutorls ! ! offîce some nore tools to be able to get at these people that I j i obviously are doing wrong and know that theydre doing wrong. I ! PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) t i Furkher discussion? Seein; noney Eenator Walshg to close. I II I beg your pardon. senakor Clayborne. Pardon me. ' i SENATOR CLAYBORNE: I , The question I have ls - - that concerns me, involves someone t i I being in a public place and someone having authorlty over that ' public place and makinq an arbitrary and capricious decision that I . I khls person is in -- in violation of this law, and it's subject to i I too much laElkude and subject to a lot of abuse. And it may : violate due process. I -- the way this js drafted I -- I have : major problems wikh Ehisy Tom. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEXATOR WATSON) Further dlscussion? rurther dtscussion? Senator Walsh: to elose. SENATOR WALSH) 24 I l STATE OF ILLISOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENA'B TRANSCRIPT ! 88th L I egislative Day March 26: 1996 I I I Qhankyou,Mr.President. Ijust-- Senator, I think that your -- your concerns Will be addressed in the amendment in the t I j House, and I'd just ask for a favorable vote. l 1 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I I The question is, shall Senate Bill 1459 pass. Those in favorz I $ voke Aye. Opposed, vote No. The votlng is open. Have a11 voted I I who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? 1 1 l Take the record. On khat question, there are 41 voting ïes, 8 I I voting No, l voting Present. Senate 5ill 1459, havinq received l l the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate I I Bill 1465. Senator Dillard? Mr. Secretary, please read the blll. I I I sEcRsehaY HAQRï: I I Senate Bill 1465. l 1 (Secretary reads title Df bill) I i 3 I rd Reading of the bill. t I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEVATOR WATSON) i I Senakor Dillard. I 1 SENATOR DILLARD: I I Th I ank youz Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the t I fenate. This bill coles to me, or us, from the Court of Claims: I I which administers Ehe Crime Victims' Assistance Act in Illinois. l 1 This is a bill to help expedite elaixs for the victins of violent II crimes. Under the new crlme bill in Wauhinqton and some changes I l I from the Justice Departmentr a grant which comes to the State of i i Illinois has been changed, and we needed to establish a grant fun; l I ko hold these monies from the federal government so that we can 1 I I proaess khe claims ot crize victims tn the GtaEe of Illinois a ) i ltttle faster. So whak Ehis bill does is establish a crime I vicEims assiskance fund or a -- a fund fn the Comptroller's Office i to help administer crime victims' claims ak our Illinois Court of ' Claimsp andy obvkously, it's subject to the appropriations I process. And I would be happy to ansWer any questions. 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSRMRLï REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT l I 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeinq none, khe question is, shall Senate Bill 1465 pass. A11 those in favor, vote Aye. Apposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted wbo wish? Have a1l voted who wlsh? Take the record. On that question, there are 52 voting Yes, no voting No, no voting Present. Senate Bil1 1465: having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1473. Senator Woodyard? Out of the record. Senate Bill 14:6. Senator Raica? Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1486. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Raica. Out of the record. Senator Lauzen. Out of the record on Senate Bill 1490. Senate Bill 1494. Senator Fikzgerald? Out of khe record. Senate Bill 1501. Senator Garcia? Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1501. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Garcia.
Thank you. Mr. President. This bill is anotheE further effozt to kry to ensure that deadbeat parenEs pay Eheir child supportz and essentially ik requires individuals applying for a marriage 1 lkcense to submit a notarized statenent that he or she does not l owe delinquent court-ordered child support before a marriage I lieense will be issued. As anended, the bill basically exempts I j 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENENAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day Mareh 26, 1996 i 1 those individuals who are on a payment plan, even thouçh they may I be behind in their payxents: if the paynent plan ls -- has been $ established by a court or the clerk of the eircuit court. This i I bill came out of committee on a bipartisan roll call, and I'd I entertain any questions that may arise. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 1 Is khere any discussion? Any discussion? Senator Raica. 1 SENATOR RAICA: j Queskion of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sponsor indieates hedll yieldv Senakor Raica. SENATOR RAICA: I ! Senakor Garcia, could someone be delinquent, like say -- or, for about five years of child supporEg like say fivez ken thousand . dollars, and still be able to get this license under Ehis bill? 1 I And if thak's the case, then why would we do something like this? PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENATORWATSON) ( Senator Garcia. SENATOR GARCIA : ' If the individual has signed up and entered into a -- an : agreement to pay thedelinquentchildsupporkandkhecourthas 1 ! agreed to that and is making an effort, khen khe individual can be granted a -- a marriage license. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i Further discussion? Senator Raica. j
So the individual - letIs jusk say he was delinquent five I i years - would have to go to court first, before he would get the marriage license, to try and settle what he was delinquent, as far as the child support, before he did reeeive this new marriage license application. Right? .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislakive Day March 26, 1996 Senator Garcia.
The individual could do that - go to court and establish a paymenk plan - or the individual could also go to the Deparkment of Public Aid and enker into an agreement Whereby he would be making his current payment and also enter into an agreement whereby he Would no longer -- he Would essentially come clean and pay a11 the delinquency.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Collins.
Question of the sponsor, please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Collins.
Senator, and -- and forgive me if this queskion has been answered - I'm trying to get some understanding of this. Are you - - does this bill prohibit one from getking married if they are delinquent in child support, if the person doesn't have a job?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Garcia.
To be quite frank, yes.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Collins.
Then supposinq that a man or a woman -- let's say that I had children, I had no job, I was delinquent in my child support and I had an opportunity to get married to someone who would probably take care of me, and maybe help ny children. Would you deny me an opportunity to get married? Let's say the nan was rich, wealthy.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBL; REGULAR SESSION SENATB TKANSCRIPQ h i 88th Leqislative Day March 26z 1996 Senator Garcia.
Well: I thlnk that lf you were conkemplating such a marriage, your potential spouse might be able to help you arrange for a decent payment plan so that once you are wedded, you can take care of any due child support that was there, but the answer -- khe honest answer would be that you could not get a marriage license.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Collins.
Senator, I -- you know, you may have lost your jobz or something happened to you, the reason that youbre not paykng child support and you still are delinquent, and I understand you have an obligation to pay it. Buk lf you got an opportunity to enter into a marriage - and maybe the -- the -- the person that you're goinq to marry is not in a position to sign off on some kind of obligations to pay your debks, but they may allow you an opportunity to get a contlnuous education or job training so that you can, in fact, go out and get a better job and help to take care of your children - this gives you the support you need to do that. I just don't think We ought to do this. I think it's a -- I understand we don't need deadbeat dads and deadbeat moms running around out there not taking care of their children. Thak's their responsibility and they shouldz but let's be practical. The basic reality is, if you've lost your job and you donlt have any means Eo pay and now you've got an opportunity to marry someone who nay have a job bu* nok necessarily enough money to support you and your children rkght now, they will be supporting you . And then l you may be able to go on i y go to school, or get into job kraining, j qet a betker job or another job and to help support the family. I i think this is - - is -- it's a good idea, but poorlyy poorly I j conceived. 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEKAL ASSEMALY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ' 1 1 88th Legislative Day March 26y 1996 '
PRZSIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I don't believe thatwasa question Senator Bowles. . 1 j SENATOR BOWLES: j ' 1 Thank youz Mr. President. Question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) . I Sponsor indicates he will yield, Senator Bowles. l
Senator Garcia, What is the penalty for failure of someone to ( submit the notarized statement, and to what extent must the county clerk qo ln order to determine that there are no -- that Ehere are delinquent child support payments? Are you inpostng a sort of policing action upon a ministerial officer? l PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 1 senator carcia. l SENATORGARCIA: 1 First of all,forapersonwhomisrepresentson the notarized 1 statement, it is a Class A misdemeanor if they do that. Secondly: $ the role of khe eounty clerk is ko provide the blank forms that these individuals Will have the responsibility of signing and gettinq them notarized. The -- that's the extent of the 1 responsibiliky for county clerks. The clerks may forward this j ' information to the Department of Public A1d for enforcement. for verificakion of their records. The onus is on the Department of t Public Aid or the clerk of the court, which also plays a role in child support enforcement. 1 PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i I senator Bowles. I SENATOR BOWLESI i i Further question of the sponsor. Senator Garcia, is it then t your intention that this notarized statement beeome a part of Ehe i I marriage application? i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i 1 ! 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEKBLY REGULAR SESSION ; SENATE TRANSCRIPT I I 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Senator Garcia. SENATOR GARCIA: Yes. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR WATSON) Senator Bowles. SENATOR BOWLES: So that every applicank for a marriage license must sign a statement that they do not oWe any back child support payments no matter what their situation? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Garcia. SENATOR GKRCIAZ That's correck. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further dlscussion? Senator Parker. SENATOR PARKER : Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. I jusk want to rise in stronq support of thks bill. There's l.3 billion dollars in kbis Skake khat is nok paid in child suppork right now. There are children and nothers that -- that are on -- and even children and fakhers, who are on the welfare roll because child support is not pakd by either party, and it makes no sense that that occurs. If this sounds tough and a person can't get married to go onto another obliqation because they haven't fulfilled their first, khen it is tough, and it should be that Way. An; 1 strongly support this bill: and urge an Aye voke. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Purther discussion? Senator Fawell. SENATOR FAWELL: Thank you very much. 1, koo, urge an Aye vote on this bill. 1 I have had a couple of occasions where a -- a new bride has come 1 lnko khe office and had absolutely no tdea that her neW husband 31 - . - - - . - - I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSRMNLY REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 owed back child support, and entered into the marriage without her . eyes wide open. At least this would give the new bride an idea of what in the world she may be getting into. I think Senator Parker is a hundred percent right. Why in the World should these nen or women go into a second marriage owing, perhaps, a very large debt and then possibly be obligated for another debt by marrying and having more children? It's about time some of these people starked taking care of the first family before they started khe Second. I urie a -- an Aye Vote. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senakor Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlenen of the Senate, I concur with Senator Fawell and Senakor Parker: and 1et me add one more thing. What this bill is trying to do is encourage a little bit of responsibility on the person who is going to get married again. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Geo-Karisr I -- let's -- welve got a lot of disruption out here on the Floor, and wedve gok a lady trying to get your attention, and I wish you would give it to her. Senator Geo-Karis, would you proceed. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Thank you, Mr. President. I Ehink what this bill does is encourage an element of responsibility. Por heaven sakes, there's nothing wrong with the blll. They owe about a billion dollars or more in child support now. Are we qoing to sit back and just mollycoddle these people who want to go and take on more responsibility and not give a darn abouk the first responsibility? I urge everyone to vote in favor of thls bill. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Collins, for a second time. 1 S I enator Collins. 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 i
Thank you. I -- I don't think many of you understand What this bill is doing. And I know it sounds good, because We a1l want to qet at bad deadbeat moms and dads on child support. But what happens if -- let's say a mother who owed chlld support, because women pay child support and should, paying child support and then ; she lost her job. In the neantime, she's delinquent in her ehild supportr but she gets pregnant by anotber man. Whekher she should or not, she's pregnant by another nan, and this -- this partlcular man can take care of the child khat she is pregnant with by his -- his childp but cannot afford to take care of another child or her okher children at the time. Do you deny this child the $ opportunlty ko have a Whole family, or does this mokher now go on public aid in order for the taxpayers to take care of her because ; she can't geE married ko Ehe man thaEls impregnated her by this second child? I think this -- this thing has a lot of flaws to ! it. Ik should be kaken out of khe record. It should go into a study committee, and let's look at it and try and make sure what i wedre doing is not creating more problems than wedre resolving.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Garcia, to close. SENATOR GARCIA: j Thank you, Mr. President. I Would urge a favorable roll call. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) t i The -- the question is: shall Senate Bill 1501 pass. All those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. j Have all voked who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On khat question, khere are 51 voting ; Yes: no voting No, l voting Present. Senate Bill 1501, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1504. Senakor Petka? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1513. 0ut of the record. Senate Bill 1516. Senator Geo-Karis. 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Out of the record. Senate Bill 1527. Senator Barkhausen? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1543. Senator Maitland. Ouk of khe record. As is Senate Bill 1550 with Senator O'Malley. Senate Bill 1604. Senator Walsh? Please read the bill, Mr. Secretary.
Senate Bill 1604. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Walsh.
Qhank you, Kz. Preskdent and Members of the Senate. Senate Bill 1604 provides that when medical or hospital services are required by an arresteey the arresting authority shall be entltled to obtain reimbursement from khe counky for these expenses. It also provides that a ten-dollar fee shall be taxed as costs for eaeh eonvicEion or order of supervisàon, other than a petty offense or business offense. And I'd ask for a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Senator Lauzen.
Thank you, Mr. President. Would khe sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSQN) Sponsor indicates hedll yield, Senator Lauzen.
Senator, is this is this fee an additlonal fee to cover this -- is this a -- is this an increase in Ehe feez or is this goin: to be withdrawn from existinq fees?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Walsh. 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996
This is a new fee, but it would be ik Would be charged to the person that was arrested, and it would be deducted from their fine. PRESIDING OFFICER) (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Lauzen.
As a clarification then, so this is an additional fee. This is not going to -- because fron -- my understanding is that these fines are allocated to different purposesz and if this goes into place, it takes away from something else. Is this, then -- if you could clarify for me, is this an additlonal fee?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Walsh.
It is a new fee. It is a new fee. There isn't a fee right now, and this -- yeah: this sets up the -- the 'und that -- thak communities would be able to draw from to pay medical expenses of arrestees.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senake Bill 1604 pass. All those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedr vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voked who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 47 voting ïes, 4 voting No, l vötlng Present. Senate Bill 1604, having received the required constituttonal majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1633. Senator Woodyard? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1643. Senator Dillard? Senator Dillard on the Ploor? Senate Bill 1643? Senake Bill 1645. Senator Dillard? Out of the reeord. Senake B1ll 1648. Senakor DeAngelis? Mr. Secretary, please read the bill. SBCRETARY NAPPY , 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day Mareh 26, 1996 Senate Bill 1648. (Secretary reads tikle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OPFICERI (SENATOR WATSON) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 1648 removes the requirement that statements of conditions be published in newspapers for State banks. In September of 1994, the federal government eliminated khis requiremenk for a1l national banks. As amended, we still lefk in the requirement that at least, With Skate banks: they publish it annually, rather than quarterly. Be happy ko answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any questions? Any questions? If not: the question is, shall Senate Bîll 1648 pass. All those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedr vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who Wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted Who wish? ...the record. On thak question: there are 41 voking Ves, 8 voting No, I votîng Presenk. Senate Bill 1648, having received the required constikutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1661. Senator Clayborne? Senator Clayborne. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Genate Bill 1661. (Secretary reads kitle of bill) 3rd Readins of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Clayborne.
Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. What this bill does is just extends the Interagency Authority on Resldential Facilities for 36 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 897M GENBRAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SBNATE TRANSCRIPT I 88th Legislatfve Day March 26, 1996 I Children from 12/31/96 to 12/31/97. The Authority has the responsibklity for developing a long-term plan for provkding adequate residential facilities for the care of children Who have not -- Who cannot be served in their own homesr and I ask for a -- a favorable vote. However, Senator Palmerg I would yield to her for the second portion of this bill. 1 PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) l Senator Palmer j . I SENATOR PALMER: 1 Thank youy Kr. Preskdent. The amendmenk attached to thks bill provides that a1l chlld care center licensees and enployees who are required to report child abuse or neglect under that appropriate Act nust attend training on recognizing child abuse l j and neglect as prescribed by DCPS rules. l PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Ang discussion? Any discusslon? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 1661 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, voke No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted vho Wish? Have a1l voted who wlsh? Take the record. On khat queskion, there is 52 voting Yes, no voting Nor no voting Present. Senate Bill 1661, having received Ehe required constitutional majority, is declared passed. I'd like Eo have l leave of the Body to go back to Senate Bill 1664. Leave -- is granted. Senate Bi11 1681. Senator Bomke? Mr. Secretaryr please read khe blll. I SECRETARY HAPPY: I 1 senate Bill 1681. I I (Secretary reads title of bill) I I 3rd Reading of the bill. I I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i I Senator gomke. I I SENATOR BOMKE : i 37 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAT,ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day Mareh 26, 1996 Thank you, ME. President. This will allow the Emergency Telephone System Board to use proceeds from tbe 9-1-1 proceed surcharge to purchase mobile data transmitters with automatic vehicle locators. These locators *- the technology will enable dispatchers to determine precisely which vehicle is closest to an emergency. In additione the system will also allow dispatchers to dlreck emergency vehicles to kheir destination more efficiently. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SZNATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 1681 pass. Those kn favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 50 voting ïes, -- beg your pardon, there are 52 voting Yes, no voting No: no votin: Present. Senate Bill 1681, having received khe required constitutional majorityr is declared passed. Senate Bill 1684. Senator Fitzgerald. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1686. I'd like to bave leave of the Body to go back to khat. Leave is granted. Senate Bill 1667. Senator Rauschenberger? Senake Bill 1687. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1688. Senator DeAngelis. Mr. Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1688. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SZXATOR WATSON) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Senate 3ill 1688 is an an atkempt to decrease khe regulakory burden on banks. It removes the requirement that a notice of speeial shareholders' meetings regarding mergers and charker amendments aeed not be pqblished; 38 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 however, it does not remove the requirement that any stockholder of the bank has to be notified of any impendlng action of that sort. Be happy to answer any questlons.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SZNATOR WATSON) 1 Are khere any questlons or discussion? Any discussion? I Senator Trotter. SENATOR TROTTER: 1 Exeuse me. Would the sponsor yleld? Actually.. . 1 PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 1 Sponsor indicates he Will yield, Senator Trotter. l SENATOR TROTTER: j Okay. It's the day after h1s birthday. He doesn't get those j rights today. Okay. Our analysis says that lt does remove khe -* l the rights of the stockholders to be notified, and youlre saying it's not. 1 PRESIDING OFFICER l : (SBNATOR WATSON) Senator DeAngelis, do you want to respond?
No. Ik Was never the intent of thate and I am almosk certain that it does not do that. However: in the event that through some glitch that may have happened, I will assure you that that notice Will be reimposed in the House.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Trokter.
Okay. Certainly. But ik is in the bill that skockholders do not have to be notified. Senator, it is in the blll Ehat Ehey do not have to be notified. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOZ WAQSON) 1 F i urther discussion?. Senator Geo-Karis. ) SENATOR GEO- KARISJ l I Will the sponsor yield for a question? 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEPAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 i 1 I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I Sponsor indicates herll yield, Senakor Geo-Karis. i 1 SENATOR GZO-KARIS: 1 i Does your bill eliminate the notice to the stockholders? 1 I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WAQSON) i Senator DeAngelis. I SENATOR DeANGELIS: ï The answer is no.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senakor Geo-Karis.
Can you tell ne where in the bill that -- now, I've been informed that it does. I meany is it your understanding it does not? PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) ' Senator DeAngelis. , SENATOR DeANGELIS: My -- yes. They have to be notified.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Pawell. : I SENATOR FAWELL: i Will the sponsor yield for a question? I j PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i ' S onsor indieates he will yield, Senakor F'awell. i 1 SENATOR FAWELL: i I We have had a number of mergers in our -- in my community: i some of which Iy frankly, don't think did mucb good for the banking community. Does this bill say that the publication of an I intended merger does not have to be published now, so that the ' i public is tnformed that a merger is about ready ko kake place? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I senator DeAngelis I . 1 40 STAT: 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBL: REGULAR SESSION ' SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1 h 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 1 I SENATOR DeANGELIS: t ; Senator Fawell, I may not have got the last part of your I question, but if youfre suggestkng oz askinq whether khe I ' shareholders have to be notifiedz absolutely they have to be i i notified. In factv I don't know of any merger that could ever i kake place without their approval anyhow. i PRESIDING OFF i ICER: (SENATOR WATSON) t Senator Fawell. ' SENATOR FAWELL: i ! That was not my queskion. My question is, when a bank is ' intending to merge with another bank, right now my understanding I i fs theze mpst be a notice placed in the newspapers that this : merger is about to take place, or may take plaee, and there was a I i -- there will be a -- a time and place for public comment on such I i a merger, according to our analysis. In this bill, is that notice i no longer required to be published in khe paper that such a merger 1 will kake place or may take place? 1 i PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 1 Senator DeAngelis. l i SENATOR DeANGELIS: i Yes. i i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i Further discussion? Senator rawell i . $ SENATOR PAWELLI Well, to the bill: You know, there are a number of mergers i now that are going on. I'm -- I belong now or have a checking account now in a bank thak has merged and khen remerged and th I en 1 remerged and remerged again,and is in the process of remerging ) again. IE Would be sort of nice if somewhere along the line 1 i somebody bothered telling the public khak a1l these things are -- ( are going ko happen. It seems to me that I don't think it's 1 . i asking too much when Ehese banks start merqinq like this, that i 41 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAT,ASSEMSLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ; 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 ) they ak least inform the public through a newspaper. 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i I Further diseussion? rurther discussion? Seeinq nonez Senator I I DeAngelis, ko close. j SENATOR DeANGELIS: I Well, I just ask for your favorable support, but to address I Senakor Fawell's question, the fact is that is bappening under ) I current law and it does require publication. So removing that 7 I requirement doesn't alter whatls going to be going on. PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR WATSON) The questîon is, shall Senake Sill 1688 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedy vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question: there are 46 votinq Yesz 4 voting Nor 2 voting Present. Senate Bill 1688, having received the required constikutional majorityp is declared pasled. Senate Bill 1691. Senator Petka? Senator Petka . Madam Secretary, . please read khe bill. . i ACTING SECRETARY HAWKBR : ' Senate Bill 1691. i (Secretary reads title of bill) : I 3rd Readinq of the btll. , PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) ; I Senator Pebka. i i SENATOR PETKA: i Thank youe Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Senaee l ! Bill 1691 would require petitioners flling under the I Post- I convickion Act (sic) to specifically identify that the 1 pleading that they're filing is actually under *he Act. This i I legislahion is in response to a -- an appellate court justice i reguest to redress a case khat baslcally required appellate court I justices to scan a document to determine Whekher or not any type ! 42 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 88th Leqislative Day March 26z 1996 of relief could be granted under the document. What it basically does is place a small, but certainly not onetous, butden on a person filing for post-conviction relief to at least identify that he's filing under this Act. With thatr Mr. President, IId entertain any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Discussion? SenatorCullerton . h
Yes. Thank you, Mr.President, Members of the Senate. Would 1 the sponsor yield? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENAQOR WATSON) 1 Sponsor indicates he'll yield, Senakor Cullerton. SENATOR CULLERTONI Senator, I -- I believe I asked these questions of you in copmittee and just wanted to do ik agaln on the Floor with regard to, perhaps, legislative intent. If a person -- as I understand, 1 these post-conviction petitions are -- are filed by inmates afker havlng lost their appeals, and theydre done without benefik of 1 I counsel. And if -- if they were to file apost-convictîon 1 petitionnow,asIunderstandthesupremeCourtruling, there -- j if there's any way if -- that the petition could be read to state a -- a ground for reltef, that it has to be consi6ered, and you want to change that. So the question I have ls thak what if the post-conviction petition is simply mislabeled, if there's a -- like a technical error in the Way in whtch this ts filed by khis person who is not being counseled? Can they refile the petition laker on? Thak 's my...
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) SenatorPekka. j SZNATOR PETXA: I S 1 enator: first of all, 1 want to tbank you for asking that l I question to clarify the -- this leglslation. As long as khe 43 STATE 0P ILLINOIS 89TH GENEPAT,ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 petition is a technical defect that does not and otherwise -- khat would not ordinarily otherwise substantially affect the rights of this individual being heard, then they could refile, if it is a true teehnical defect. If it is very apparent from the face of the document that the person is seeking habeas corpus relief or seeking relief under Section 2-14.01 of the Code of Civil Procedure, but is -- makes no reference to this, then they may not file under this particular Ack.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Further dlscussion? If not, the question is, shall Senake Bill 1691 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Take khe record. On that question: there are 52 voting ïesz no voting Noz 2 voting Presenk. Senate Bill 1691, having received the required conskitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1696. Senator Rauschenberger? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1719. Senator Mahar? Madam Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1719. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Mahar.
Thank your Mr. President and Members. In 1995, khe Congress of the United Stakes came Eo kheir senses and repealed What is knogn as the Employee Commuke Opkions Actz and in that legislakion: it reguires Illinois:if, in fact:we wish to repeal j ours: to so stake. That's the first -- and that's the firsk thing l ' that this bill does. The second thing it -- it allows us the j 1 I right to adopt an employee commute option program ln Illinois that 44 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAT,ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislakive Day March 26, 1996 is a voluntary program administered by the Departmenk of Transporkation. This comes to us from the Illinois State Chamber, is in support -- and is supported by the Illinois Manufacturers' Association and the Chemieal Industry Councll. I know of no opposition, and I would ask for your vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Senator Smith. Senator Smith.
Mr. Speaker, this is not germane ko what's happeninq riqht now. I merely wanted to Btand, because I Was in the telephone :00th2 that when Senake Bill 1648 was brought before the -- the Senate, I was in khe telephone b00th. But I wanted the record to show that I would have voted Xes on that bfll. Thank you very kindly.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) You're Welcome, and the record will so indicake. Senator Welch.
I have a queskion of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sponsor indicates hedll yield, Senator Welch.
Senator Mahar, there is a skory in today's Chicago Tribune about these credîts beîng traded on the -- I believe it's either Chicago Board of Trade or the Mercantile Exchange, and it says that the credits went from -- from abouk four hundred dollars per credit down to about sixty-eiqhk ko seventy dollars is the -- is the price of a credît that's trading currently. If khis program is working so welly why are we changing it today?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) SenaEor Mahar.
45 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENEKAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th beglslative Day March 26, 1996 This is not that program. In fact, there is another bill that wefre -- we're qoing to deal With thatlll create a secondary market for khose. Qhis is strickly a voluntary program for employee commute options.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Welch.
Well, I thoughk I read in my computer that there were -- you were -- you were getting involved in credits - emission credits. The companies can exceed their allotment if they purchase -- purchase an emission unit from khe EPA or companies which emit below their ezission standards. Is this -- isn't thls khe same proqram, or is this just a similar program?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WAQSON) Senator Mahar.
What you were addressing before is dealing with trading credits. This does not deal wkth the trading of credkts. Thks allows them to get credits if they bave an employee commute option ptogram kn place. What -- and -- and, in fact, the -- the amount of credit that they would get against their -- the requiremenks in this State for -- for air -- federal -- to meet federal skandards for air quality is going to be very minimal, but we feel it's one option and -- that goes towards addressing the lonq-term problem.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? SenaEor Wmlch.
Well, I -- I guess I'm no* making my poin: elear. Whak I'm saying is Ehat you currently have credits out there to pollute the air. ïou are creating additional credits to pollute the air. One is going to affect the price of the other, because if you have other credits you can purchase for pollution, khe okher ones are 46 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENRDAT,ASSEMBLY REGOLAR SBSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I i ; 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I either going to be workh more or less, because you now have I i additional abilit I y in the company to pollute the air. That's what i I'm askinq about. i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I Senator Mahar. ! I SENATOR MAMAD: I i First of all, in this program youdre nok going to purchase; I : youdre going to earn the creditsz and you can only earn the credit I if there, in facty is -- it can be proven to khe Illinois Department of Transportation and the Illinols EPA that you have reduced pollution kn the atr. '
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? If not: Senator Mahar, to close. The , questlon is, shall Senate B1ll 1719 pass. All khose in favor y j ! vote Aye. Opposed: vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voked I who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? . Take the record. on that question, there are 53 voting Yes, no I l voting No# no voting Present. Senate Bill 1719: having received ; the required constitutional majoriEy, is declared passed. Senate I Bill 1746. Senator Parker? Madan Secretary, please read the I j bill. I SECRETARY HARRY: i i Senate Bill 1746. j ' (Secrekary reads title of bill) j 3rd Reading of the bill. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSOX) j ' Senator Parker. j SENATOR PARRER: 1 Thank you, Kr. Presïoent and Ladies and Gentlemen of khe Senate. Senake Bill 1746 amends the Unified Code of Correcttons to permit a sentencing court ko Eerminake the sentence of an alien i i offender early if the federal government is prepared to depork khe 47 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 offender and a judge does not feel tbat deportation would deprecate the seriousness of the offense. Amendmenk excludes al1 pràsoners sentenced under eighty-five or a hundred percent truth-in-sentencing provisions. I would answer any questions, and ask for a favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discusslon? Any discussion? Senator Jacobs.
ïeah. Just one. Would khe sponsor yield, Mr. President, for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sponsor indicates she'll yieldr Senator Jacobs.
Now, if someone commits a crime in this country - and correct me if I'm wrong - and they are sentenced to timey We could depork those, rather than to have them serve their time, or would they serve their time firsk and then be deported?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
What we are talking about here is for illegal aliens, and for those aliens who would be deported anyway, that khe option Would be there for them not to compleke the sentence if a judge said so that -- and khey could be deported at that ttme. Qhe purpose being is to save the money and to free up the beds for those other criminals.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Jacobs.
. .e perhaps unwittingly and unknowingly creating a problem, as we did with juvenlles early on, that you let the juveniles go out and do the selling of the drugs: et cetera, and then whenever they 48 ; I STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMRLY ! RsgushR sEssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 got arrested, they just Went to juvenile court and got their hands slapped until we got a little tougher With then. So what's to keep us now from using an illegal alien to sell all the drugs in the country, and then if khey get caughkr then they just send them back home and there's no penalty? That seems to me to be a lbttle bit loose, and Ilm not sure if thatls kruly what youdre looking to do? And I just think the bill may need a little more worky and if youdre going to allow them to try to clean this up a little bbt in the House, I don't see any problem with 1t. What you're trying to do I understand, but I -- I think wedre czeattng a little bit of a monster here that We may not be aware of. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Furkher discussion? Senator Lauzen. SENATOR LAUZEN: Thank you: Mr. President. For the sponsor, a question. Generally, I think... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sponsor indicates shedll yield, Senator Lauzen. SENATOR LAUZEN: Generally, I think that this ts a very good idea. What assurance do We have in this bill that once an îllegal immigrant is deportedz that they'll be incarceraked there or that theylll serve ouk the rest of their penalty in their home country? What assurances are khere that wefre just not going to be releasing criminals who have committed crimes here? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker. SENATOR PARKBR: Some countries have those facilities and those arrangements Where they Will actually put them inko prison. Others do not. Part of the punishment for the crimes fs deportation: and khat We are -- I Wanted to empbasize we are excludkng cakegories (i), (ii) 49 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26: 1996 and (iii). We are excluding any violent criminals. It is only for the nonviolent, like for a theft or somethin: like thatz and it is not to :ay that those are not criFes we should be concerned about: but the judge has the option of looking at that and deciding whether that person would be deportable early. Qhey are going to be deported anyway.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Lauzen.
Thank you: Mr. President. Just a clartfication. The concern is that we're goinq to release this crininal to a home counkry and then theypre jusk going to come back to comnit a crime again. Can you give some assurance under this bill that that Wouldn't be the case?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker.
Unfortunately, there's no way of assurkng anything. We cannot assure Who comes into our borders now. So it is difficulk ko make thak assurancea However, we do have the safety precautlon in there that the judge ean alleviate the -- we are just kalkinq abouk people who are going to be deported anyway. They are going to leaver and they are going to leave after that sentence or Whether theydre out six months before that sentence is complete. So thak opkion of khem coming back across over the border is there regardless of whether we lek Ehem out six months before or if they compleEe Ehak senkence. The purpose of this is to have the opkion where you can have the beds for those people who are more violent. We need khe space, and to not have, actually, the taxpayers paying for the cosk ko incarcerate a crininal who would be deported anyway. 1 50 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SBNATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 END 0F TAPE TAPE 2
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator del Valle. But before -- Senator del Valle, I don't know if you could even hear what was beinq disrussed between the previous speaker and the -- and the one asking the question because of the roar that seemed eminent from over in your area there. So, if we would hold it down so that everybody would be able to hear the speaker and hear the questionz I think we would all be betker for it. Senator del Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE: Senator Parker, 1...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) She Will yield, Senator del Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLB: Senator Parker, I -- I understand the inkenk here. I understand what youlre trying to to do. I think that your goal here is ko save the taxpayers of Illinois some money . I think that's your goal, but I'm not sure that we are accomplishing khat goal, or reaching that goal, by approving khis legislation. I would really urge you to consider taking this bill out of the record and maybe taking a real careful look at kt over a period of a few months, because I don't think that your intention is to allow individuals who have committed crimes in the State of Illinoisz and who have been found guilky for committing those crimes, donlt think your intention is ko allow those individuals..,
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Parker. Let's let Senator Parker respond to that 51 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislattve Day March 26, 1996 request. SENATOR dEL VALLE: . .. to, in effect -- lf I could...
Thank you. -- I appreciate the questions and concerns that people have, and I will take it out of the record. The Judiciary Committee is meeting tomorrow, and maybe we ean alleviate a few of the concerns. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR WATSON) Thank you. We are at the botkom of page 7. Senate Bill 1759. Senator Philip? Senator Philip,'on Senate Bill 1759. Senate Bill 1759, Senator. Out of the record. We now proceed ko page 8, the top of page 8, Senate Bills 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1762. Senator Syverson. Madam Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1762. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Syverson.
Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 1762 is the safe driver renewal initiative brought to us from George Ryan in the Secretary of Statefs Office. Thts is just another example of the efforts of Secretary Ryan to improve and to make nore efficients convenient drlversd facilities tn Illinois. This proposal does two things. First, under the safe driver renewal inikiative, each year approximately l.l million motorists with clean drivinq records will be able to renew their driver's license over the telephone or through mail, saving taxpayers about -- approximakely four hundred thousand dollars and making it much easier to renew their license. ehe second part: The legislation also extends the expiration date 52 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislattve Day March 26, 1996 for senior and disabled identification cards from five years to ten yearsz also allowing then to renew by mail or by phone. 1111 be happy to answer any other questions. 1 knoW of no objection to this legislation.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? If noty the question is, shall Senake Bill 1811 -- I beg your pardon - Senate Bill 1762 pass. Al1 those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a1l voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that questton, there are 52 voting ïesz no voting No, no voting Present. Senate Bill 1762, having received the required constitukional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1764. Senator Fawell. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1765. Senator Philip? Madam Seeretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1765...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENAQOR WATSON) Senator Philip, for what purpose do you rise?
Thank you, Mr. Presidenk, Ladles and Genklemen of the Senate. I'd ask leave to -- re-refpr to Rules Committee Senate B:ll 1765.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENAQOR WATSQN) Leave is requesked. Leave is granted. Movin: down the Calendar, Senate Bill 1766. Senator Philip. Madam Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bl11 1766. (Secretary reads title of bil1) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Phtlip. 53 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 ; SENATOR PHILIP: Thank you: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 1766 amends the State Finance Act by permitting the Secretary of State's Motor Vehicle Facilikies in Bloomington, Lombardz Schaumburg to maintain a two-thousand-dollar petty cash fund. They now are at one thousand dollars. This doubles it. Evidently, a thousand dollars is not enough. 1.11 be happy to answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Any dàscussion? Any discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 1766 pass. All those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedy vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Have al1 voked Who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 54 voting Yes, no voting Noy no voting Present. Senate Bi11 1766, having received the required conskitukional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1769. Madam Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1769. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OPFICERZ (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Philip. SENATOR PHILIP: ' Thank you, Mr. Presldent and Ladies and Genklemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 1769 anends the State Pinance Act. Authorizes the Secrekary of State ko create a special license plate for Masons. A portion of khis license fee will go towards ! the Illinols Masonic Poundation for Prevention of Drug Abuse Among Children. It increases the fee twenty-five percent (sic). Fifteen dollars go Eo the Secrekary of Skate for expenses, and ten dollars goes to that fund. Be happy to answer any questions. 54 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENENAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Any discussion? Senator Welch.
Well, I had a question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Sponsor indicakes he will yield, Senator Welch.
Senator Philip, isn't this the first license plate wedve had for a private group that is an ongoing plate, as to a temporary plate simllar to the Michael Jordan plate we had last year?
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Philip. SENATOR PHILIP: : This happens to be for charitable purposes. They -- khey have a fund which is called Masonic Foundation for the Prevention of DrugAbuseAmongChildren. h PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) I Further discussion? Senator Welch.
W I ell, I'm just cuzious as to why we have the Masons and not the Knights of Columbus. My understanding ls that if youdre a 1 Knight of -- if youdre a member of khe Knights of Columbus, you cannot be a member of the Masons. Is that correct? I ; PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) j Senator Philip. ;
Thak is incorreck. There are quite a feW of khem that are E Masons and are both. And I don't have any objection to the Knights of Colunbus having their oWn plate. Nobody asked me. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) i Any discussion? SENATOR PHILIP: l 55 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I ! You'll never get the sale unless you ask. I have no objection ko the Knighks of Columbus whatsoever. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) ! Further discussion? Senakor Welch.
Senator Demuzio just asked ne to ask you, then: to take it out ! of the record, because he has a Knights of Columbus amendment he Wishes to add to the bill. I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Further discussion? If not, would the Senator like ko close? SENATOR PHILIP: ' If youdre serious about it, you know, the last day for bills is this Thursday . Now, if youdre serious about it, I don't have I any problem with that at all, Vince. If weîre playing games, 1111 ' take a roll call. ...1'11 take a roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) The question is: shall Senate Blll 1769 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? ! ! Take the record. On that question, there are 50 voking ïesg no voking No, 2 voting Present. Senate Bill 1769, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate 4 Bill 1773. Senator Fiezgerald. 0ut of khe record. Senate Bill 1777. Senator Donahue? Out of khe record. Senate Bill 1785. 1 Senator Molaro. Senator Molaro? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1796. Senator Molaro. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1805. Senator Burzynski? Madam Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1805. ! (Secretary reads kitle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill. I 56 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEKAT.ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ABth Legislative Day March 26, 1996
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Burzynski.
Thank you, Mr. President. This bill creates the offense of gang întimidation, and this bill has been through exkensive debate in the Judiciary Commiktees. It passed out on the Agreed Bill List. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions that folks might have.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? If not, the question is, shall Senate Bill 1805 pass. Those in favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voking is open. Have all voted who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have all voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 53 voting Yesz no voting Nor no voting Present. Senate Bill 1805, having received the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senator Bomke, on Senate Bill 1811, do you wish this bill returned to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment? Senator Bomke does seek leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1811 to the Order of 2nd Reading. Hearinq no objectlon, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Readtng is Senate Bill 1811. Madam Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?
Amendment No . 2, offered by Senators Bomke and Luechtefeld.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Bomke.
Thank you, Mr. President. The -- the amendment just claricies further the -- defining the boundaries bekween a municipally operated electrlc company and a investor-owned eleckric company. The additional -- ory the amendment bekter defines it by stating that an investor-owned utility providing natural gas to 57 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATC TRANSCRIPQ 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 municipalities within the municipal limiks may conttnue to do so after this Act has passed. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Is khere any discussion? Seeinq none, all those in favor, say Aye. Opposedg Nay. The Ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Are khere any further Floor amendments approved for consideration?
No furkher amendments reported, Mr. President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1812. Senator Bomke. It is on 3rd Reading. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1814. Senator Dillard. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1853. Senator Karpiel? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1881 is Senator O'Malleyls. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1883. Senator Rauschenberger. Madam Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1883. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rauschenberger.
Senate Bill 1883, in its original forn, changed the fall election that we currently hold for school boards and for community colleges and moved it inko the spring municipal election. Clerks across the State of Illinois have reported consistently that turnout in the fall nonpartisan Echool election runs between nine and ten percent of the electorate. Turnout in *he spring municipal nonpartisan election runs between kwenky and twenty-five percent. It's a pretty clear-cut bill. The Clerk's Association is in support of it, but concerned about how it phases 58 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 1 I in. We've promised to work wlth them in the House if khey can cone : ! up With a plan that makes phase-in more appropriate. Davld Orr, the Clerk of Cook County, is a very strong supporter of the bill and estinakes thak it will save his office between a nillion and a i million and a half dollars a year. They hope, in -- in a four-year cycle, to save enough money to purchase new election i equipment. StateWide savings by the Skate Board of Elections are I ' I estimated to be about two million dollars. For everybody 's awareness, the IEA has expressed some concerns; so has the School ; i Board Association and so has the Library Association - all based I I on the fact that they lose one opportuniky for a referendum. The ! - - currently under our law, eight months is khe longest period of time any local government would have to wait to go to referendum. Passage of this law would make the longest period of time eleven : ' months. I think that the statewide savinqs: khe increase in electoral participatlon are worth the three-month difference. é I This bill also has two amendments that 1'11 ask the amendment sponsors ko briefly explain. And I would ask -- ory yield to Senator Palner. i I
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Palmer. j
Thank you, Mr. President. This amendment requires that the Chicago Board of Elections publish the names of those persons who j have been removed fron the voting rolls durlng a major purge and to publish them in the general circulation papers - names and r addresses - in the ten-day period following khe last day of the ! 1 canvass. The cost of this is minimal. For example, in the Chicago Tribuneg i: costs seven thousand dollars to publish the names. It is in the same fashion that if your house were in : jeopardy from back taxes. Votlng rights is certainly one of the most important of our rights. And I'd ask for favorable support. ! ! I 59 STATE Or ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Garcia.
Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in support of this bill, for obvious reasons. It's a noney-saver to taxpayers in the Skate of Illinois. It rids us of some unnecessary elections in the State of Illinois. But in addition to that, there is an amendment - Amendment No. 2 - to Senate Bill 1883 which essentially brings ethics and standards of conduct to the office of war; committeeman. What the bill essentially does is to prohibit an individual who mlghk be elected ko the office of ward commikkeeman from serving in such capacity if that individual has to do time in a State or a federal penitentiary. It arises as a result of an investigation in the City of Chicago where some aldermen and other officeholders were are due to go to jail; however, there is nothing in *he law currently to prohibit that from being the case. This amendnent Would change thaty and 1 would urge favorable passage.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Further discussion? Senator Hendon.
Thank you, Mr. President. too, rise in support of this wonderful legislation, primarily, of course: to save the Eaxpayers' money, but also because of the notification khat will be given out to people who have been purgedr many of whom's voting riqhts have been taken from them by the Chicago Board of Elections. I just would hope that the sponsor would come up with some stronger legislation to reign in the most corrupt board of elections probably in America, and that is the Chicago Board of Elections, which is: by far, the most corrupt board of elections that I have ever known of, read about or heard of. So strongly support this legislation and just hope that We will come up with 6: STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I some more legislation similar to this. Especially khose on the k Republican side of the aisle, you must be concerned, because if . they'll cheat us Democrats in Chicago, they most certainly will cheat the heck out of you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Rauschenberger, to close.
Well, I just want to thank everybody for the time, and the ! ! consideration, and the support. This is a good bill made better ! by two good amendments. Think we should send this over to the House. If the clerks have further suggestions on implementation, welre happy to listen to them. I'd ask for a favorable roll call.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) The question isy shall Senate Bill 1883 pass. Al1 those in : favor, vote Aye. Opposed, vote No. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who wlsh? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 50 voking ïes, 2 voting No, no voting Present. Senate Bill 1883, having received the required constikutional majority, is declared passed. We move to page 9, the top of page 9, Senate Bills 3rd Reading. See Senate Bill 1887. Senator Burzynski. Out of the reeord. Senate Bill 1902. Senator Karpiel. Out of the record. Senate i ! Bill 1917. Senator Bomke. Out of the record. As you may recall, We started on page 5 with Senate Bill 1365. So we will now return to page 3 and proceed through 3rd Readings. First bill, Senate Bill 542. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1239. Senator Cronin? j i It's a recally if you would so wish, Senator. There is an amendment. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1240. Senator Butler? Senator Butler, do you wish Senate Bill 1240 returned to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment? No. I would remind everybody noc, wedre on page 4, Senake Bills 3rd Reading. ' Might take a glance at the Calendar and take a look and see whatss ! h 61 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GSNEDAT,ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 coming up, so that if youdve got a bill out here coming up, be prepared to call it. Senate Bill 1243. Senator O'Malley. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1246. Senator Madigan? 0ut of the record. Senate Bill 1255. Senator Bomke. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1256. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1258. Senator Parker. Senator Parker, excuse me. Senator Demuzio, for what purpose do you rise, Senator?
Jusk on a poink of personal privilege.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) State your point, Senator.
Well, we know you 're four short over khere. It would be a good day to call your controversial stuff.
PRESIDING OFFICBR: (SENATOR WATSON) Thank you for bringing khat to the attention of the Chair. Senator Parker, do you wish to call your controversial bill? 1258. Madan Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1258. (Secretary reads kikle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senakor Parker.
Thank youp Mr. President, Ladies and Genklemen of the Senate. Senate Bill 1258 amends the Civil Adminiskrative Code of Illinoisy the State Finance Act and khe Illinois Income Tax Act ko creake a checkoff for the Mental Eea1th Research Eund anQ a checkoff for the Children's Cancer Fund. I would ask for a favorable vote and answer any queskions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) 62 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Seeing none, the question is, shall Senate Bill 1258 pass. All those in favor, vote Aye. Opposedg voke No. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted Who Wish? Rave a1l voted Who wlsh? Take the record. On that question, there are 53 votinq Yes, no voting No, no voting Present. Senate Bill 1258, having recelved the required constitutional majority, is declared passed. Senate Bill 1266. Senator Maitland. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1268. Senator Syverson? Senator Syverson, are you on the Floor? Out of the record. Senate Bill 1278. Senator Geo-Karis. Out of the record. Senate Bill 1279. Senator Madigan? 0ut of the record. Senate Bill 1288, Senakor Klemm, is out of the record. Senate Bill 1300. Senator Parker. 0uk of the record. Senate Bill 1313, O'Malley, is ouk of the record. Senate Bill 1315. Senator Jacobs. Madam Secretary, please read the bill.
Senate Bill 1315. (Secretary reads title of bi1l) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR WATSON) Senator Jacobs.
Thank you, Mr. President. The bill basically does What it says. Starked ouE as a combat veterans' license plates. The Secretary of State's Office come and sakd, ''Let's make it a veteran's license plate, and then wedll give them room on the side to take care of khat.ff We agreed to that. The Secretary of State does have one other amendment. Qhey said they were not qoing to be able to get it in time to us# so welll put that on in the House: which will allow the -- part of the fifteen-dollar fee ko fund veterans' library grants. So I just -- know of no known opposition and ask for your support. 63 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEPAL ASSEMBLK RZGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I I I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENKTOR WKNSON) j I i Is there any question? Any dlscusston? Seein: none, the l I question is, shall Senate Bill 1315 pass. All those in favor, I 1 I vote Aye. opposed, vote No. The votln: is open. Have a1l voted I I who wish? Have all voted who wtsh? Have all voted who wish? 1 ! Take the record. On that question, there are 53 voting Yes, no I I I voting No, no voting Presenk. Senate Bill 1315, havinq received 1 j the I required constitutional majoritye is declared passed. Senate 1 Bill 1320 is Senator Maitland. Out of the reeord. Senate Bill 1322 is Senator Rauschenberger. Madam Secretary, please read the t bill. I ACTING SECRETARX HAWXERI 1 Senate Bill 1322. l I I (Secretary reads title of bil1) $ I I 3rd Readinq of the bill. I PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENKTOR WATSON) l Senator Rauschenberger. 1 j SENATOR RAUSCHXNBERGER: 1 h i Thank youz Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate I . j 1322 is kind of a little bill that -- that does something khat I 1 h I think is very important. It repeals the TIF districts in the I 1 Skate of Illinois. For those of you who have had some experience l I with TIF districts and the abuses of TIP districts, you should be ! I I awarethat there's -- it's averycontroversialproqram throughout th 1 i e State of Illinois. Although it was blrthed in -- in -- for I I good reason and is applied nost of the time, perhaps - as nuch as 1 i i slxty or seventy percent of the time - effectively and correctly, I I the abuses of the eight definitions of what a blighted area is are I , legion. For more khan kwo, *wo and a half yearsz Senator Aldo DeAngelis and other Senators and some Members ln *he House have worked valiantly to Ery to get khe proponents of TIF districts to come to the table and narrow the definition so Ehat we don't have ' 64 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT E%th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 lake property that's being developed as a TIF, so tbat we don't have stores moving four miles apart from one TIF diskrict to anothery so we don't have a TIF legtslation that creates blighted areas by having commercial property owners hold municlpalities and local governments hostage to the TIF process. Under TIF legislation, tax funds thak would norxally go to school districts are reserved to develop property. Now, thatfs a good ldea for areas that need it; it's a good idea for blighted property; it's a good kdea for brownfield sites. It's not a good idea the way itls being applied. The reason that I seek this Chanber to move this bill are a number of things. We're continuing to try to qet the TIF association, and the municipal governments, and other people to agree to reforms. By sendinq this bill out of the Senate and into the House: Me can help send a message that we are tntentional about reforming the -- khe definitions of eIF dlstricts. Alkhough negotiations have continuedr they have not been kerribly frultfulz and I khink this gives us the hammer thak can help us move toward a reformed TIr Statute that's good for the State of Illinois. In additionz we have -- the municipal governments, I think, are going to be down tomorrow, and I think everyone should know here, I would rather have them conversing with Members of the House than -- than bothering you in your offices. So this is your opportunity ko strike a blow for economie equity, for the right thing for your school districts, for the right thin; for the taxpayers of the Stake of Illinois: that we have really got to narrow TIE abuses: and this bill will serve as a nessage, I think, that may bring the Tax Increment Association ko the to the table.
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DONAU IE) Is there any discussion? Senator Geo-Karis.
Question of the Sponsor. 65 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAT.ASSEMBLY REGULAD SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ; ! I 88th Legislatîve Day March 26, 1996 I l I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I I Indicates helll yield, Senator Geo-Kaïis. t I SPNATOR GEO-KARIS: i j If I you thought that the TIP district legislation should be I I reformed, why didn't you just amend it to -- to put in your l i reforms, rather than throwin: the baby out with the bath -- the i water, whieh you are doinq by repealinq this whole thing? l I 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 1 Senator Rauschenberger. SENATOR RAUSCHENBERGER: Thank you, Senator Geo-Raris: for asking tbat question. Our staffer on the Revenue Committee has been working on a conference commitkee for more than a year, I think, in drafting various verslons of TIF amendmentsz and redeflnitions, and -- and corrections. This bill wal to send a message that the -- the Legislature Was tired of abuses and wanted them to negotiate on the conference committee. l don't see any point in amending this bill if we can't gek agreement on tbat conference committee. PRSSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Senator Geo-Karis. I SENATOR GEO-KARIS: I rise to speak against this bill. I think we have been ) trying to use the tax increment finance in some of these I 1 municipalities to the beneflE of them. We have distressed area: for exampleg in my town, and we have approved it. And I think I I it' 1 s koo soon to try and just repeal this bill. I really feel i l that if anything should have been done, it should have been i i reskructuredr but not conpletely amended. And what you're doins is 1 i repealing it completely, and I rise in opposition to your blll. hi I And I might tell you that khe Munfcipal League is against it: and k tberefs a whole flock of -- mayors -- Dupage Mayors and -- and l Managers Conference against lt, the Illinois Association of iI 66 STAQE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGPLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Realtors is against ite the Illinois State Bar Association is against it, Northwest Municipal Association is against it. And frankly, I'm against it, because I don't think tbis is the righk Way to go. I think lt should have been reformed and brought the reforms to us to -- to handle, and not to be afraid of meeting the people who are coming tomorrow. I speak against the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER, (SENATOR DONAUTE) Further discussion? Senator gutler.
Thank youe Madam President. Ladies and Gentlemeny I rise in opposition to this bill also, and I think Senator Geo-Karis put it in good words, and that is that wedre throwing ou* the baby wikh the bathwater. doubk if there is one Senator in this Chamber Who has not experlenced a good result fron a TIF district. I know in ny own area there are at least three that are -- thak have created jobs: been economic -- eronomically beneficial and who have the support of the -- of the people. I think this is kind of an arrogant abuse of our power; that we can just arbitrarily decide that since we can't brinq people ko Ehe bargaknlng tabler that wedre goin: to throw out Ehe whole idea. TIF diskricts have served every -- so rany towns so well that I thknk We ought to be just a little cautious and we ought eo not -- we ouqht to wait to see what the municipalikies might come alonq with as -- as an alternative. But, by allmeans, let's not be arrogant and knock out a good -- a good thing. I urge you to vote No.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHDE) Further discussion? Senator Carroll.
Thank you, Madam President, badies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1, too, rise in oppositionr and I rise ln opposleion for a couple reasons. One may be pride of authorship, since I am the auebor of TIF districts, and noW you know wbat the problem is. 67 I STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 do agree there have been significant abuses. I do agree it's supposed to be linited to near-bllghted areag and could have been used and should have been used not only for economic developy but for housing stock as well. And, yes, We have not seen enough of that. And, yes, we have seen things that should not have been deemed near-bliqhted areas developed as TIF. But in my own district I have had two or three, as -- as Senator Butler has just saidr where there was true blight. And, kn fact, it was a very effective use. The firsk one, for example, in the City of Chicago happened to be in my distrlct, where they took an o1d car dealership that -- it was about two blocks long, long abandoned, becoming a building that was having all kinds of problems with qangsr et ceterar and turned it lnto a very terrific shopping center that brought jobs to our community and income to the City and to the State. Likewise, when Bell & Howell chose ko move out of Lincolnwood and left about a half-mile square, vacantr no jobs: no ineome and deteriorating, the Lineolnwood Town Center was built and a couple -- car dealerships were built thak have skgnificantly increased the incone to not only that Village, but the jobs to the entire community. TlFs are good if they are done right. If khere are problems - and I agree with you, Senator Rauschenberger; there are problems - we should address those problems. But ko take away a good tool of development that creates jobsx hopefully, in the future, creates more housing out of bliqhted areas, would be absolutely wrong, and I would urge its defeat. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAYTE) Purkher discussion? Senator Jacobs. SENATOR JACOBS: Thank youy Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. 1, too, stand in strong opposition to this Senate bill. If one looks at the history of the TIP diskrictsg there vere some problems early on with the sales tax TIFS. We have resolved thak 68 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENZDAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TPANSCRIPT i i 88th Legislative Day March 26y 1996 I issue. Now, if there are some problems wtth the property tax TIP, 1 i let's resolve khat lssue. Senator Geo-Karis is absolutely rightr j that we should nok be looking to do away with this b1ll in its E entirety -- or with this -- with the TIPs in entirety; Me should be looking to modify. Anytime there's a problem, I think thak's our resolve. And when one looks ak -- I think: Senator, you indicated that there was a -- they were tired of abuses, and I'm just curious as to what type of abuses thak wedre talking about. I know very full well that the school districts, in many cases, Want the years accelerated. They want to get their money fastera We understand that. But, yet: at khe same timeg if it is a good TIF diskrickr if it is a QIP district that is working properly, they will work khat out with the school district without leqislation, without the necessity of havinq to -- to throw the baby out with the bathwater, as the good Senator says. I just ; think that ikls not a good idea. I think it's something that even the school districts should take a very good, hard look at, because if they do away with the TIF district, true that they may ; not get any increased valuaEion for a period of kimer buk wikhout i that TIF district, they may neMer: evet 9et that increased i i assessed valuation. I ask for a No vote. i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) l I Further discusskon? Senator Hendon.
Thank you, Madam President. I just wanted to address briefly I What some of the abuses atey even though I do intend to vote No on I this. Buk there are abuses. When you have districks that do not I need to be a TIF for redevelopnent and they get the TIF i anywayy i that is an abuse. Ilve seen it happen in City Council, when I was 1 an alderman, on khe norkh side, in a district that certainly did l I not need any ineentive. And they took up a TIF, and then there was 1 I a spat between the two aldermen because of -- businesses across 1 69 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENENAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 88th Legislative Day March 26# 1996 the street from the TIF felt thak they were being discriminated against. I would just request thak Senator Rauschenberqer, my dear friend, take this out of the record and see if there's a way that we can address the problems, and khen perhaps we could -- I would vote for :t,ifwewereabletoaddresstheproblems.Becauseit should be for blighted areas, as the sponsor inkended it to -- to ' 1 ' be, and there are abuses in this program. But I'd hake ko see us defeatthisWithoutaddressingthoseconcerns. t i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) Furtherdiscussion? SenatorBurzynski.
1 ' Thankyou:MadamPresldent. Willthesponsoryield? PRESIDING OFFICERI (SENATOR DONAEUE) h ' i IndicateshedllyieldzSenatorBurzynski. SSNATOR BURZYNS:I: 1 , Thank you. Senator Rauschenberger, I don't think anyone in ) here dislikes TIF districts anymore than I do, and I've seen severalabuseslnmyowndistrictwiththose. In fact, one of 1 those is the City of DeKalb, whose mayor happens to be the I PresidentoftheIllinoisMunicipalLeaguenow. ButIlmWondering $ if there's been some concern or lf there 's been an effort to really address those abuses by giving the Department of Revenue some keeth to be able to better define what a blighted area is and really work that into the definition of the TIF district, rather than just totally abolishing them. I have concerns simply because I've got schools who are now -- some of the areas that they're in doqualifytobeinTIPdigtricksyandwikhehis change, theydre ( I not going ko be able to recoup anything that theydve lost over the last ten years. Thak ls why I ask khe queskion.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Rauschenberqer. ! $ 1
70 i STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGULAP SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I I 88th Legislakive Day March 26, 1996 Well, thank you, Senator Burzynski: for your concern. Let me say that -- that enhancing the powers of the Deparkment of Revenue for oversight of TIP districts is under negotiation, and it's one of the things that the reform people thtnk is a good idea. As to i I %hether you -- there's no reason, I don't think, to believe that t any of your school districts that are currently in TlFs will lose 1 j i anything. This bill only affects future TIFs. Ik doesn't affect i 1 the existin: TIFs in tbe State of Illinois. It simply ends the I practic l e. So your school districts, as their TIFs expire, will I get all of the additional increment that's entitled to them. i 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 1 Further discussion? Senator del Valle I . l SENATOR dEL VALLE: i Th 1 ank you, Madam President. Senator, I -- I just want, for j the record, to indicate that there is a problem, and thak there is l a court case pending in Addison where a TIF designation has been $ i used, in khe opinion of Hispanic resldents i.n that area, for the I 17urpose of displacing and eliminating housing tn that area. And I . I so I would agree with khose Who want us to look at Tlrs and -- and j Ehe definition of TlFs and narrow -- narrowing the definition: but l I I would agree also wlth those who say khak khis bill is no* the 1 *ay ko go. 1 PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Madam President. I rise in support of khe ! opposition to this bill. 1 Senakor Rauschenberger, I think the very l thing youdre trying to accomplish is going to be put backward lf 1 j you don't pull this bill ouk of khe record. We have made progress j in coming up with a reform bill on TIFs. Wedre very, very close I to getking an aqreement. I think, if I read the mood of the i General Assembly, a roll call on this mighk well put us back to 1 71 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENENAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT l I 8Bth Legtslatkve Day March 26,1996 i square one, because it would give a false indication of people's feeling of the abuse of TIFs* So Would you do me a favor and pull it out of the record and leave that hanging out there as a threat? In khe event that thinqs fall apart, we can always come back and I I do what you're asking. PRESIDING OFFICSR: (SENATOR DONAH7E) I i Further discussion? Senator Jacobs, for a second time. I SENATOR JACOBS: i Thank you, Kadam President. Just a point of inquiry. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR DONAHUE) I I State your point.
It appears that this preempks home rule. EoW many votes will I it take to pass this legislation? I i PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I i It is the opinion of the Chairz Senator Jacobs, khat this leglslation does not preempt hone rule; kherefore: it Would take thirty votes. Senator Jacobs. '
I Would like to appeal the ruling of the Chair. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 1 That isalways inorder, sir. The question is, shall the t ruling of the Chair be sustained. All those in favor... Senator Jacobs.
1911withdraw thatmotion. 1 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) j All righk. Is khere any okher discussion,questions regarding 1 Senate Bill 1322? Seeing none, Senator Rauschenberger, to close. i ' ssxleoR RhuscsExssRcsa: I I Want - - I want to thank the Chamber for a thoughtful I ! dl ! scussion of the bill today. I -- I want to read into the I 72 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 record, for -- for your conslderation, the proponents of this bill: the Illinois Farm Bureau, the Illinois Education Association, the Illinois Library Association, Large Unit District Association, ED-RED, SCOPE: nunerous school districts: White Heath Townshfp Assessor and the School Management Alliance. And I'd like to briefly speak to some of the points raised. The -- the cry was several times, ''Don't throw the baby out wikh the bakhwater.'' Sonetimes the water gets so badr you've qot to throw that water out. Wedve -- wedve had the TIF legislation on the books long enough. If we donlt get reform, we need to do lt over. Someone spoke to the issue of whether this was arrogant to change a State Skatuke. You know, I don'k think it's arrogance; I think it's responsibility when we act to deal with a Statute that doesn't work in the way we intended it to work. You only have to read the definitions in the Statute to understand that kherefs been wide -- widespread misuse of the TIF Statute. It's a good idea that's not working right. If we can't fix it, we need to get it off the books and start over again. When we kalk about pride of authorship, Senator Carroll, I$d lkke to poknt out that -- that back in the -- the -- the dark, dark ages When you authored this bill, We didn't have a lot of the tools that We have and that we've made available across khe State of Illinois to people. We didn't have enterprise zones; we didn't have brownfield sikes. We didn't have a lot of the tools that have now been offered for redevelopment. When -- when Senator Jacobs mentions that there were problems early on with Ehe sales kax TIF, he's absolutely right. There have been problems early on with this Statute, and this Statute has resisted change throughout all the problems and all of the abuses. If we can'k send a message to the proponents of this bill -- the proponents of this Act that We mean business, then Wedre not going to gek this changed Ehis year or any okher year. There are three hundred and eighty, approxlnately, TIFs 73 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMRLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 across the State of Illinois. Almost everything that should have been TlFed has been TlFed. We are noW seeing in the State of Illinois the TlFing of greenfield sites; thelr TlFing cornfields for residential development; their TlFing lake property for residential development, in -- under the guise that this is blighted land because it's vacant. This legislation only deals with future TIFs. It holds harmless those three hundred and eighty enterprises that have already taken place to take care of those problems. I was asked to take khis out of the record. I think it's a good tine to vote on this today. If we send this bill to the House, if we record vokes on it ïes, we will make it clear that we intend to see reform of the TIF Statute. If we don't act on this bill, wedre qoing to go through three more years of dancing. It really disappoints me, in closing, that Aldo DeAngelis doesn't stand in agreement with me on this bill. I know Aldo's worked very, very hard. 3ut with all due respectr three years therefs been no progress on reform of the TIF leqislakion. If we don't send a message -- if we don't send a message ko the khe proponents of this Stakute that we mean business, welre nok going to get anywhere. I'd ask you to thoughtfully think about voting Yes on this bill to move TIF reforn forward. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The question is, shall Senate Sill 1322 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voked Who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 7 Ayes, 45 Naysg 2 voting Presenk. Senate Bill 1322, having not received the required constitutional majority, is declared failed. Senator Petka, for what purpose do you rise?
Madam President, point of personal privilege.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) 74 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQRL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SBNATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I Please state your poink. i SENATOR PETKA: l Madam President: Menbers of the Senate, in the President's ! Gallery I'd like to Welcome to Springfield Dan Reedy, the Manager ' of the Kendall County Farm Bureau, and students of the -- of i Kendall County, the high schools of Newark, Oswego and Sandwich. i i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SZNATOR DONAHUE) Will you please stand and be recognized by the Illinois i Senate? Welcone. On the top of paqe 5 is Senate Bill 1335. Senator Pekerson? Senator Peterson, on Senate Bill 1335. Out of : the record. Senakor Weaver, on Senate Bill -- ouE of the record. All righk. Ladles and Genklemen, on the Order of 3rd Reading, on ; the middle of paqe 7, is Senate Bill -- 1664 and 1686. They are ' Senakor Watson, and since he Was in the Chair, We had leave to go : back. So, on the Order of 3rd Reading is Senate Bill 1664. Read i the bill: Madam Secretary. Read the bill -- oh, I'm sorry.
i Senate Bill 1664. ( (Secrekary reads tikle of bill) j 3rd Reading of khe bill. ; PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIR) ç Senator Watson. i SENATOR WATSON: 1 Yesz khank your Madam President. I appreciate you giving ne the opportunity to present this leqislation. This affects the i Southwestern Illinois Development Authority, which is a development agency in southwestern Illinois thatls been responsible for considerable economic growth and development. Each year we have come back and -- and put a provision of qulck-take. We give them the authority for quick-take. We have done this on an annual basis, and oftentimes, there's a period of I time by which the quick-take is not in effect, due to the fact i 75 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ; 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 that we do it annually. From the time that maybe we pass it and E the Governor has to sign it, there is a -- there is a period of $ time thate oftentlmes, quick-take is not in authority. Thereforer we wanted to add it for two years. This does sunset ak khe end of ( I kwo years. There's not been an abuse of power here. I know i khere's some concern about quick-take: but this has been one i Ehat's been very -- very beneficial, again, to the development of I southwestern Illinois and several projects that -- khat have been i brought forth. The other provision is one in which would allow I the Southwestern Illinois Development Authority to issue bonds. 1 : After the effeetive date, those bonds would be exempt from -- I State kaxation. This further specifies that the tax exemption I shall conkinue for the entire term of the bondy and with respect 1 . to the taxpayer, through the end of the taxpayer's last year that i begins With the term of the bonds. And the reason for this is ; I because of legislation thak we passed during the 88th General I Assembly khak provides some limltation. This, again, is -- will l create a better interest rate, Will save the investor Who lives in I Illinois the -- the tax that would be required ko pay on khese l particular bondsr and it's minimal. They suggest that it's around i twenky to twenky-five khousand dollars annually, but it Will have t an impact on the interest rates, Whlch will be very beneficial. i So this is an economic development tool for those of us who live I in southwestern Illinois and which, hopefully, the entire State h will benefit. i I (
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUC) Is there any discussion? Senator Welch. SENATOR WELCH : i I had a question of the sponsor. i PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUCI 1 Indicates he'll yield, Senator Welch. I SENATOR WELCH: l 76 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION E SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 88th Legislative Day March 26z 1996 Senator Watson, We just had a debate on TIF districks. Everybody else seems to be using TIF districts for development for plant infrastructure. Why isn't your area using that? Why do you have to have tax-exempt bonds? i
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAYIE) Senator Watson. l SENATOR WATSON: ! Well, we have TIF districks in southwestern Illinois: and What E welreaskingfor,withthetaxexemption,isverysimilarto what 1 is already being provided to khe Quad Cities Regional Development Authoriky. We -- we're just asking that we be given the same consideration. In fact, there's some nine different State t entities khat already have some form of tax -- tax exemption.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator -- Welch. :
Well, you know, this seems to me to be gettlng like the old civic center racesweusedtohave:whereeachofuswouldstand up anQ have a town in our dîstrict where we wanted a civic center. j Now, Welve got six other areas that have development distrkcts. Only Quad Cities has tax exemption. Now you Want a tax exemption. What about the rest of our districts? Why don 't we make them all uniform? Why do we have a different rule for each district based ' upon, you know, who skands up here with a bill? Would you be willing to amend this in the House to include al1 the other ; districts and make this a statewide, uniform program? PRESIDINGOFFICER: (SENATORDONAYIE) l ! Senator Watson.
I would like to know what the fiscal impact would be of that, Senator. I would take it under consideration. But the fiscal t i impact will have a great deal to do with whether or not this bill l i 77 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENENAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SSSSION i SENATE TRANSCRIPT j 88th Leqislative Day March 26, 1996 or any bill would be successful. As it currently is amended, this legislation has a very minimal fiscal impaek, but it could have a very positive benefit on the economic development and the ability to sell bonds and develop southwestern Illinois.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Clayborne. ;
Thank you, Madan President. 1, tooy rise in support of this bill. i SWIDA has been very instrumental in helping acquire land in I the area that otherwise would have gone through a long, complicated process. There are safeguards in this billz as was passed last year, where a municipality has to authorize the : quick-kake of the property in that particular city. So the element of abuse has been eliminated, in comparison to previous legislation, when this blll was first brought forth. I think this is a good bill. It has been very instrumental in our -- in our area, and I rise in support of it. ;
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Further discussion? Senator Burzynski. i
i Thank you, Madam President. Will the sponsor yield?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAYIE) Indicates helll yield, Senator Burzynski.
Thank you. Am I correct, in thak there are quick-kake provisions in this piece of legislation?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) SenatorWakson. l
ïes, there is a tWo-year quiek-take provision.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) SenatorBurzynski. ( I 78 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legkslative Day March 26, 1996
That's an extension from last year?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
Yes, it's an extension that they've had for almost the entlre nine years that the Development Authority has been -- been available, but we always sunset it just to protect the concerns that many people have about quick-take and What they what might be done with that.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Burzynski.
Then there's no destgnated purpose at this time for quick-take;
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
The quick-take in southwestern Illinois has been utilized primarily for the Metro Link: the development that has been taking place, which is very successful, a mass transit district that's goes from southwestern Illinois into -- into the St. Louis area and out to the international airport in St. Louis. So, that's Where, primarily: thls has been utilized.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Further discussion? Senator Collins. Senator Demuzio.
Well, thank you, Madam President, Members of the Senate. Ip too, rise in support of this. With respect to the quick-take, the two-year extension is -- I normally have dlfficulty with quick-take, but in khis particular instance, I do not. In addition, I think, to the proposed purpose for quick-take, think 79 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENBNAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! I I 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 that Senator Watson just referred to, is also the right-of-way acquisition for the improvement project in Sk. Clair County. It's near Scokt Air Force Base as well. So, I would rise in support. i
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) Furkher discussion? Senator Lauzen. ; I
Thank yous Madam Presidenk. A question for the sponsor. 1
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicakes hedll yield, Senator Lauzen. i
Senator, just ehecklng that -- the fiscal impact of khis policy of an exempkion on these bonds. If -- as the analysis says that there's a hundred and eighty million dollars, and if the i interestrateisroughlyfivepercent,khat'sabout nine million $ dollars. A three percent income tax, if the math -- if the math is right on this, rather than it being twenty to twenty-five thousand, isn't it bekween kwo hundred and two hundred and fifty i khousand?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Senator Watson.
Well, the answer ko thak question is no. This is only on prospective bonds that are sold and only those residents who live ; in Illinois would be impacted.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) ! Senakor Lauzen.
1 So your leqislation d l oes not go back. I'm under the j impression that the currenk bonds under this Development Authority I are exempt from State incomes taxes. Are -- are the current bonds : exempt from State income tax? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 1 80 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSRMNLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Senator Wakson.
No.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR DONAWIE) Further discussion? Further discussion? Senator Palmer.
Thank you, Madam President. A questton of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicates he%ll yield, Senator Palmer.
Senakor, will this -- will passage of this legislation assisk the East St. Louis area?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
Yes, ma'an.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SBNATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Further discussion? Seeing none, Senator Watson, to close.
I just ask for your favorable vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIB) The question is, shall Senate Bi1l 1664 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye. opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have all voted Who wish? Have a1l voted who wish? Have al1 voted who Wish? Take the record. On that question, there are 50 Ayes, 2 Nays, l voting Present. Senate Bill 1664: havin: received the required constitutional najority, is declared passed. Further down that page, on page is Senator Watson on Senate Bill 1686. Again, we ask leave to go back. Senator Watson. Read the bill: Madam Secretary.
81 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Senate Bill 1686. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
Yes. Thank you, Madam President. And once again, I thank you and the Members for allowing me to go back to this order of buslness. Senate Bill 1686 amends the Public Aid Code and provides khat local governments - that's townships - in counties outside of Cook Counky and any county adjacent to Cook County - ln other words, a1l downstate counties may limit the types of medical service which are funded through the general assistance program. You may recall that we eliminated -- the General Assembly elininated the -- the interim assistance progran in 1995 and also nade major changes in the transitional assistance program. As a result of those reforns, some persons who were eligible for medical assiskance from the State through the Department of Public Aid are no longer eligible. Whak's happening, and the concerns that many downstate townships have, and the township officialsz is that the local township could be ultimately asked to hold the bag, so to speak, for those costs that could be borne by Ehose individuals. This jusk allows the township to have the flexibiliky to do what I think township government is for, and that's make decisions locally and hopefully keep their townships financially and fiscally sound. I would answer any questions.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAYIE) Is there any discussion? Senator Garcia.
Thank you, Madam President. Would the sponsor yield?
PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) 82 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Indicates hedll yield, Senator Garcia.
Thank you. Senator Watsonr under this bill, what constitutes an emergency?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
As I mentioneds this does create some flexibility at the local level for the townships. They would make that determinakionv Senator.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Senator Garcia.
So we donft know, but we're legislating and allowing them to decide that?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Senatot Watson.
Yes, that's correck.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) Senator Garcia.
Is this bill an attempt by townships khat do nok receive Stake funds for general assistance ko deny or limit medical services to legal immigrants and the poor?
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senakor Watson.
No, not necessarily at all, Senator. What -- what we dre trying to do is create (sic) a financial and fiscal disaster that could occur in a township as a result of a Redical problemg and wedre just allowing those deciskons to be made locally. It has 83 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAT.ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 88th Legislative Day March 26: 1996 I nothing to do with, I belteve, your question. l $ PRESIDING OFPICBRI (SENATOR DONAHUE) I senator Gareia. j SENATOR GARCIA: 1 Will this Senake Bill 1686 be used for other Medicaid or 1 welfare reform issues? 1 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) I i Senator Watson. I SENATOR WATSON: ; Senakor, there's alWays tbat posstbility. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) ' Senator Garria. i
In closing, I'd just like to remind khe Members khat khis bill came out of the Public Health Commlttee by a 6 to 0 to 4 vote: and I Would be very cautious about supporting ik. . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) i Further discussion? Senator del Valle. i I SENATOR dEL VALLE: i Thank you, Madam President. Senator Wakson, the bill does 1 indicate a -- a definition of -* of what conskikutes an emergency. I I -- in responding to Senator Garcia's question, you indicated I that that would be determined locally. But the way I read it# the 1 bill does indicate that it would have to be lffe- threatening and I would result in significant and permanent - permanent - physical i I impairment. And so there is a -- a very narrow definition in the i bill that establishes what constitutes an emerqency. Is thak your i reading of -- of your bill? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) I Senator Watson. i I
ïou're correct. It is a very loose definition, buk aqain, we 1 84 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEQAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 want the decision to be made locally. This -- and I want to make sure you understand this does not impact Cook County or the collar counties. This is only downstate, non-receivership townships.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator del Valle. SENATOR dEL VALLE : -- Senatorr I understand it doesn't impact Cook County, but we have a lot of individuals living in -- in khe smaller counties that, if this bill is passed, would be denied emergency health services that would not fit under this narrow definition, I think. You -- you call ik a broad definitiony but I call it a narrow definition.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson. Oh, okay. Further discussion? Senator Collins.
Question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAW IE) Indicakes hedll yield, Senator Collins.
How how do you define ''emergency assistance''? What's covered under that?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
Well, on the -- on page l of the actual bill, ik kalks about life-threatening, or will result in significant, permanent knpairment, an6 requires kmmedîate attentkon to relieve significant present physical pain and suffering.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Collins. 85 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY ' REGULAR SESSION I SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 88th Legîslative Day March 26: 1996 1 SENATOR COLLINS: What -- what would be khe qualifications -- the eligibility criteria for one ko be on general assistance now? j PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) ! S I enator Watson. E SENATOR WATSON: I honestly don't know what the -- that qualifications are. But the townshipsy in many cases, make tbat determination. 3ut -- but these are only affecting non-receiver. If youdre a receiving j I township, you do have certain specifications and qualifications. I l But this is only for non-receiving townships that are trying to ' live within tbeir means that are downstate. ' PRZSIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) ( Senakor Collins. SENATOR COLLINS: Buk youdre kalking about people who don't necessarily reside in thak particular area and was there at the time of some kind -- hadsomekindofemergency. t PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) i Senator Watson. ssxaxoa wavsox: 1 Yes: madam. That could be. Thatls part of the problem, if you want to know the truth. I mean, welve got transients coming throuqh this State that all of a sudden decide -- that maybe 1 something goes Wrong in Bond CounEy or in Cenkral Township, of whichIwasatownship supervisor. Theydecidesometbinghappened t to 'em, and they want to go to the hospital and want the township to take care of it. I think youdve made a very good point of Why We need legislation such as this. Thank you. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) l Senakor Collins. i SENATOR COLLINS: I l 86 L STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Senator, my concern is that -- you may be right, but my concern is the fact that when the old general assistance program terninatedz the only people that were left that were qualified to be on general assistance, tWo category: those who will participake in the Earnfare Program and those who are physically or mentally, in some way, incapacitated and that khey would be on a transitional program until such time thak khey would be -- qualify for -- mean, eligible to receive SSI - until that was processed. So that's -- thak's my concern here. I -- I don't know what youîre talking about when you say that these people are nok -- you knowr you're krying to -- to stop them from some kind of emergency assistance. How do you what are you trying to do? Are we trying to change the -- the transitional assistance program back now ko qeneral assistance? To my knowledge, it doesn't even exist. When did ...lmicrophone cukoffl... assistance program come back into being?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
Yes. And thank you for asktng that, because that is the very problem, is that when we did away with transitional care, we then created a situation by which many of these people expeck the township to pick up the whole cost. And -- and we think that that's not right. We don't think the township - local township, non-receiving township now, downstate - should be required to plck up that cost. I mean, they can establish theîr own program, and that 's -- that's important that they do so, but they don 't have the whereto all and the financial backing to be able to -- to do many of the thinqs that are being asked of them now.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Collins.
87 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY i REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I Senator -- Senakor Watson, obviously you -- there is a problem, but I'm not sure what you're dolng is going to solve the problem. So I would suggest to youz like most of the bills that have passed through here today, that you take it out of the record and -- and that you look at it more closely to -- to solve the problem that you are more concerned about probably, and it's called ''dumping'' - you know, where people come through the areas and -- and those local governments have to assume that responsibiliky. I think we need to do sonething about dumping, I but at the same time, you don't want to deny people who are legitimately on transitional assistance khe opportunity for emergency or medical treatmenks. I don't think you want ko do that. We worked long and hard to change that progran, and I khink the Governor brags about it as one of h1s greakest successes. I don't we oughk to -- to -- to do anything right now that's going to, some Way, weaken khat program. So your problem can be solved without doing what youdre doing through this bill, and I would suggest you take it out of the record. And -- and I will be Willing to work with you also, to solve your problem. PRESIDING OFFICXR: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Furkher discussion? Senator Hendon. SENATOR HENDON: Thank you, Madam President. Will the sponsor yield for a question? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Indicates helll yield, Senator Hendon. SENATOR HENDON: Senator Watson: I had a situation recently - I know this doesn't pertain to Cook County - buk I had a situation recently I Where one of ny constituents had a heart attack, and they called i 9ll for an anbulance. And the ambulance, when they called, they asked, was it life-threatening. And they described that he was on 88 i k STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 88th LegislativeDay March 26,1996 t the floor; he turned color and looked to be in very bad shape. They asked him who Was going to pay for ity and told them to call I the privake ambulance and -- or get him to the hospital on their own. NoW, what they ended up havlng to do is to drlve this father ' to the hospital themselves, and he almost died. Now, my question ( to you is: Will this bill lead kowards more of thatt where E theydre going to be asking people how theydre going to pay for it, : or how -- exactly how sick are khey, how close to death are they? Are we really -- do we really want to move in that direction, and ' will this take us in that direckion? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) : Senator Watson. :
Yes, firsk of all, Senator Hendon, it -- it does not affect Cook County. I just want to make sure everybody understands that. It does not affect the collar counties. Ik only affects what we 1 call non-receivership downstate Eownships. I understand your i problem, and I know that that's happening more and more everyday in--inhealkhcareproviders. It'saproblemthattheyhave in 1 ! trying to collect from indigent individuals, but I just don't think that has anything, really, to do wiEh Ehis legislation, but Iunderstandyourconcernandproblem. l
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Hendon ( SENATOR HENDON: . 1 Okay. Well, as I acknowledged in my opening statement, I know it does not concern Cook County, but as a Skate Senator, we dre elected toF in my opinion, represent all the people of the State of Illinois. I an concerned With the health ofkhepeople Wherever they are. Knd my question is: Wi1l this bill lead to 1 j more ''Can you pay?'' over the telephone before you get any kind of emergency assistance? I need to know that, Senator: really. 1 : 89 STATE 0P ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ! 1 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAW IE) Senator Watson.
The answer would be no: because it -- the township: ultimatelyz has to make that determination. That would not be made by the provider, nor would it be made by that individual who would be indigent. It would be made by the township. So the answer is nO .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAEUE) Senator Hendon.
...conclusion. In conclusion -- one last question. If khe township elects to not have any or very little emergency service for these people, then that's going to be khe rule. Is that correct? So if the kownship chooses to not have a ambulance service or if the township chooses to say if you havenlt lost so much blood, then it's not an emergency, then that -- their rule Will be final. Is that correct or incorrect?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) Senakor Watson.
Non-receiver townships must levy a tax. They must levy a tax for general assistance. This provides for life-threatening. Again - once again - it is not a decision that will be made at that particular poink in kime. That individual cannot make that decision, nor can kbak provider. It has to be made by the policy of the township .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR DONAWIE) Further discussion? Senator Palner. SENATOR PALMER : i Thank you, Madam President. A question of the sponsor.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) 90 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26# 1996 l Indicates he'll yield, Senator Palmer.
Senator Watson, don't the townships already have the authority . to nake decisions about the delivery of human services?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson. SENATOR WATSON: i Yes, they do have that, but this makes it more clear on khe medical side. And thak's -- that's important thak the townships have that ability for their just creating a fiscally sound township level of governmenk.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Palmer. (
Senator Watson, if the townships already have the authority to make their own decisions, why is the Senate making decisions for them?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Watson.
Well, there's been some litigation, and welre just -- feel I that on the medical side of general assistance, that we needed to tighten it up. And wedre -- we may be creating a situation in which we may be denying, but that is a problen that the townships have found to be of -- of great concern, as to hoW do we pay for this.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator -- or, Senator Palmer.
I Thank you. 0ne more question of the sponsor. You have said frequently that your bill exenpts Cook County and the collar counties. Isn't it a fact, however, that Senator Maitland has 91 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEKAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 ' introduced an amendment that would be statewide? ' PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) : SPZZVOV WZVSOZ@ i SENATOR WATSON: I I I There -- there's no anendment on this bill, Senator, and I -- I have no idea . I understand there is a bill out khere that Senator Maitland has, but -- that might have statewide implications, but this -- this is not it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Palmer. SBNATOR PALMER: ( Thank you. To the bill: I would agree wikh Senakor Garcia who said earlier that we should be very cautious With this bill. I would suggest khat we need to vote against it. There seem to be too nany efforts to put things in place before We actually have dealt with serious problems in a responsible and comprehensive fashion. .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Further discussion? Senator Fawell. l i
Thank you very much. Will the sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Indicakes hedll yield, Senator Fawell. i SENATOR FAWELL: i i ! Isn't it krue that -- thak if there is someone Who is in need of -- of hospital care, per se, that most of our hospitals in this State mustg by law, accept those people and -- andy in effect, khose people would be taken care of?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senator Wakson. ! SENATOR WATSON: ë Yes, I think they call that Hill-Burton, I believe; that there I 92 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSRMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 is some requirement that hospitals do provide service for indigents. Yes. l I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) j I senator Fawell. I I
So all your bill ks saying, in effect, is that the township - the township - who is very limited as far as funds are concerned, because they do, obviously, have to levy for those funds - and -- 1 i and I know, at least in -- in my townships, those funds quite 1 ' frequently are used to -- to set up a pantry for the poor, to help I with rent payments when somebody's rent comes up and -- and khey can't quite make it, or heaking bills, that type of thing - that i i those funds will nok be dissipated by one person that comes in ! I With a huge hospital bill. Isn't that the point of your bill?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAYIE) Senator -- Watson. SENATOR WATSON: I ! That was very good, Senator. I wish I,d have said it. That,s I exactly khe poink.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAUIE) Senator Fawell. j I SENATOR FAWELL: l ! Well, to the bill: Those of us that have township qovernments understand exactly whak Senator Watson is talking about. Those township governments do, indeed, have limited funds. There are j other ways that khese people, who have a problem such as has been spoken ko on Ehe other side of the aisle, can be Eaken care of. Itls just what we're saying is that the kownshipsz with their limited funds: should not be -- have a11 khose funds dissipated by i one particular individual, when someone else, who is legally i liable to kake care of that person, under the Hill-Burton funding i : ! mechanism - and -- and, by the way, that Hill-Burton is a federal 93 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENENAT, ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 bill which also gave funds to those sane hospikals to allow them ko add on, build, maintain some of those hospikals. This is a Way that can -- those people can be taken care of. This is a good i bill. It should be voted on by every person in this Assembly: and 1 I then their vote should be Yes. ' PRESIDING OFFICER ! : (SENATOR DONAHUE) I Is khere further discussion? Seeing none, Senator Watson, to ; I close. ! SENATOR WATSON: I Well, thank you. I appreciate the opportunity for the debate, I ' and I understand some of the concerns, but I -- I hope that those who are concerned about who pays ultimately will recognize that wedre asking the taxpayer to pay if we don't provide some limitation. What we did at the State level, as you know: we -- we ' eliminated the transitional assistance program -- or the general assistance. As a result of thatr we shifted some burdens back to i townships, and khose burdens beinq cosks. I don'k think that that's necessarily fair that we should be cost shifting to 1 townships, who ultimately would have to -- to bear khat burden. ; And khe comment about dumping is -- is excellent, and I -- I'm a former township supervisor. I was a krustee and a -- and a i supervisor, and we live on Interstate 70 in Bond County. And it , : was amazing the way people would come through our county and stop ( thereandexpectthepeopleofCentralTownship inBondCounty to l take care of their needs. And these would be people fron oklahoma i going to NeW York, or New Mexico qoing to Indiana or somewhere, i and these -- that is a problem. It's a big problem. And I don't khink the taxpayers at the local levelr at the township level, 1 should be held responsible for those types of lndividuals, even I though sometimes theydre -- they xay be very deserving. This is ' a means by which it provides some protection to the townships. It i comes to us fron the Township Officials of Illinois, and I would . 94 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SRSSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 appreciate your support.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) The question is: shall Senate B1ll 1686 pass. Those in favor Will vote Aye. Opposed, Nay. The voking is open. Eave al1 voted who Wish? Have a11 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Take the record. On that question: there are 41 Ayes, 13 Nays, none voting Present. Senate Bill 1686, having received the required constikutional majority, is declared passed. Resolutions.
Senate Joint Resolution 85# Constitutional Amendment, offered by Senator Dillard. And Senate Resolution 182: offered by Senator Lauzen. Itss substantïve.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) Messages from the House.
Message from Ehe House by Mr. McLennand, Clerk. Mr. President I am direrted to inform the Senate that the House of Representakives has passed bills of the following kitles, in the passage of wbich I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wik: Eouse Bills 378: 427, 431, 1285, 1290, 2670, 2691, 2799, 3057 and 3233. All passed the Eouse, March 26th, 1996.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Now, if I could have everybody's attention, 1'11 give you a little idea what is to come. We will recess until the hour of 1:30. Promptly at 1:30, we will come back to the Senake Cloor and continue our business. And the committees that are scheduled for this afternoon will be delayed somewhat because of the business we will be doing. Senator Fawelly for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR PAWELLZ 95 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSRMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRXNSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26: 1996 Thank you, Madam President. For purpose of an announcement. PRESIDING OFFICERZ (SENATOR DONAWIE) State your point.
There will be a Transportation Committee meeking ak 3 in Room 400. We will have one amendment, we believe, to look at.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) Senate Transportation Committee meeting. Senator Rauschenberget.
Thank you, Madam President. I rise for purposes of an announcement, havlng nothing to do with TIF. The -- the Senate Appropriation Commlttee was originally scheduled for l o'clock. For the nokice of the Members and any interested parties that are in khe galleries or listening, wedll convene imnediately upon adjournment. Thatbll be sometime afker 2 o'clock. PRESIDING OFPICERt (SENATOR DONAYIE) Is there any further discussion, questions? If not... I'n going to waik so we can read in the Rules Report. Other than that, wedte in -- at ease, at the moment. ...Bil1s lst Reading. ACTING SECRETARV HAWKERS House Bill 885, offered by Senators Cronin, Peterson and Butler. (Secretary reads title of b1l1) House Btll 2747: offered by Senator Mahar. (Secrekary reads title of bil1) Senate tsic) Bill 3091, offered by Senator Walsh. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3349, offered by Senator Dudycz. (Secretary reads title of bill) And House Bill 3436, offered by Senakor Klemm. (Secretary reads title of bill) 96 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT ' I 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 I I 3rd Reading of khe -- pardon me, lst Reading of the bills. 1 I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAWIE) I Senakor Cronin, for what purpose do you rlse? l I SENATOR CRONIN: I Thank you, Madam President. For purposes of an announcement. i The Senate Education Committee shall neet today at 3:30 p .n. in 1 I Room A-1. Senate Education Committee, 3:30 pam.: Room A-l. Thank I YOD@ 1 I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATQR DONAHUE) i o .. Reports. 1 SSCRSTARY VXDWYI i I Senator Weaver, Chair of the Commiktee on Rules, reports the i following Legislative Measures have been assigned: Referred to I I the Commitkee on Agriculture and Conservation - Senate Amendment 2 1 to Senate Bill 1473, Senate Amendmenk 3 to Senate Bill 1749 and I Senate Amendment 3 to Senate 5ill 1777; referred to the Commlttee I I on Education - Senate Amendment l to Senate Bill 13637 to *he t Committee on Environment and Energy - Senate Amendment l to Senate 1 Bill 1266 and Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bi11 1578) to the l I Committee on Executive - Senate Joint Resolution 85 and Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 14947 ko the Conmittee on Insurance, I I Pensions and Licensed Activities - Senate Amendment 5 to Senate I Bill 1246: Senate Amendnent l to Senate Bill 1255, Senate I Amendment 2 to Senake Bill 1256, Senate Amendment 3 to Senate Bill h I 1424 and Senate Amendments l and 2 to Senate Bill 1917; to the I Commitkee on Judiciary - Senate Amendments 3 and 4 to Senate Bill 522 I , Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1268, Senate Amendment 4 ko I Senate Bill 1643, Senate Amendment 3 to Senate Bill 1746, Senate i Amendmenk 4 to Senate Bill 1796 and Senate Amendments 4 and 5 to I Senate Bill 1823: to the Committee on Local Government and ! Elections - Senate Amendmenk 4 to Senate Bill 1278 and Senate i Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1502: to the Committee on Public Health I ' I 97 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEKAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 and Welfare Senate Amendmenks 3 and 4 to Senate Bill 1365 and Senate Amendment l to Senate Bill 1513, plus Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1556) to tbe Committee on State Government Operations Senate Resolution l79 and Senake Amendment l to Senate Bill 1814; to the Commitkee on Transportation - Senate Amendment l to Senate Bill 1764) and Be Approved for Consideration - Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1279: Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1300, Senate Amendment 6 Eo Senate Bill 1338, Senate Amendment to Senate Bill 1633: Senate Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1669, Senate Anendment l to Senate B1ll 1671, Senate Amendment l to Senate Bill 1881 and Senate Amendments 1 and 2 to Senate Bill 1887.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DONAHUE) A11 right. The Senate will stand in -- recess unkil the hour of 1:30, and I do mean it will be prompt. ht 1:30. (SENATE STAN9S IN RECESS) (SENAQE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) ..v come ko order. I repeat: The Senate Will come to order. Senator Woodyard, for whak purpose do you arise, sir?
Por tbe purpose of an announcement.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your purpose.
Thank you, Madam President. I thought while We were waiting on other Members ko gek ko the Floor, I Would announce that, 98 STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26# 1996 because it's not on your Calendar, there wi1l be an Ag/conservation Commiktee meeting in Room 2l2 at 8 o'clock tomorrow morning.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) There will be a meetinq of the Agricultural -- Agriculkure/conservation Committee tomorrow morning, which is the 27th of March, at 8 a.n. in Room 212. Please be alerted to that neeting. The Membersbîp will please come ko the Floor. We're going to kake up amendmenté that were approved by the Rules Committee and are going to be sent to the Ploor. ...Madigan, for what purpose do you arise, sir?
Thank you, Madan President. Purpose of an announcement.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your purpose.
Thak komorrow morning, at 9 a.m., the Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Ackivities will meet at -- in Room 400 for tbe purpose of considering Floor anendments. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KANIS) Senator Madigan has announced that tomorrow morning at 9 a.m., which is March 27th, 1995 -- '96, rathery Wednesdayy tbere wîl1 be a meeking of the Insurance Comnittee in Room 400, for khe purpose of taking up the amendments that Were approved by the Rules Committee. 9 a.m., Insurance Committee meeting tomorrow morning in Room 400. When we get started, there are several Senators who have amendments they wish to put on their bills: Senator Madigan, Senator Parker, Senator Weaver, Senator Woodyard and Senator Burzynski. House Bills 1st Reading.
House Bill 3367: offered by Senators Fawell and Shadid. (Secretary reads title of bill) 99 1 ! I . i STATE OF ILLINOIS 892E GENENAT.ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENAQE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislatlve Day March 26, 1996 Senator Burzynski offers House Bill 3613. (Secretary reads title of bill) And House Bill 3618, by Senator Burzynski. (Secretary reads title of bill) lst Reading of the bills. END 0P TAPE QAPE 3 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) ... 2nd Readlng, on page 3. Wedll start with Senate B1ll 1669. Senator Lauzen. Senate Bill 1669? Do you wish to proceed? Mr. Secretary, will you read the bill? 1669. SECRETARY NAQRYS Senate Bill 1669. (Secrekary reads title of bi11) The Commitkee on Commerce and Industry adopted Amendmenk No. 1. PRESIDING OFPICZR: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Are there any Floor amendments? SECRETARY NADQY: Amendment No. 2, offered by Senator Lauzen. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Lauzen. SENATOR LAUZEN: Thank you, Madam President. Amendment No. 2 to Senate Bill 1669 merely eliminates the more controversial part of khe blll covering production houses and actors. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Is there any discussion? Any discussion? Hearing noner all 100 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I I 88th Leqislative Day March 26, 1996 1 1 khose in favor, please signify by saying Aye. Al1 opposed. The 1 Ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HADDY: l No further amendments reported. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) 1 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1671. Senator Lauzen. Senator Lauzen? Read khe bill, Mr. Secretary. SECRETKRY NAQQï: Senate Bill 1671. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of khe bill. No committee amendments.
PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Are there any Floor amendments?
Amendment No. 1, offered by Senator Lauzen.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Lauzen.
Thank you, Madam President. Amendmenk No. l merely clarifies, in keeping with what the Department wanked us to put into the bill and as a result of conversation that kook place in the Commerce Committee.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Is there any discussion on this amendment? Hearing none, Senator Lauzen aoves tbe adoption of this Amendment No. l Eo this bill. All those in favor, say Aye. All opposed: say Nay. The Ayes have it in the opinion of the Chair. The amendmenk is adopted. Is khere any -- are there any further amendments? SECRETARY HA/RY: j I No further anendments reported. I I PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) i 3rd Reading. ... noW going to the Order of 3rd Reading on page I 10l STATE 0F ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26# 1996 4, for the purpose of recall. Senate Bill -- Senakor Madigan. Mr. Secretary... Do you wish to Senator Madigan, do you Wish this bill returned ko 2nd Reading for the purpose of amendment? Senator Madigan seeks leave of the Body to return this btll to 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1279. Mr. Secretary: are there any Floor amendments approved for consideration?
Amendment No. 2, offered by Senator Madigan.
PRESIDING OFFICSR: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Madigan.
Thank you, Madam President. Floor Amendment No, 2 to Senate Bill 1279 is Eechnical and clarifylng in nature, and I would ask for its adoption.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KANIS) Senator Madigan asks for the adoption of this amendment. Is there any discussion? Searing none, all those in favor, please siqnify by saying Aye. A11 opposed, siqnify by saying Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. This amendment is adopted. Are there any further amendments?
No further amendments reported.
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1300. Senator Parker? Senate Bill 1338. Senator Weaver? Senator Weaver seeks leave of the Body to return Senate Bill 1338 to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. ...no objeckion, leave is granted. On the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1338. Mr. Secretary, are tbere any Floor amendments approved for consideration? SECRETARY HARKYS l02 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMBLY REGDLAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I ! 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 Amendment No. 6, offered by Senator Weaver.
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KAQIS) Senator Weaver.
Thank you, Madam President. This amendmenk guts the bill and merely makes it a shell bill. I'd move adoption.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XANIS) Senator Weaver moves adoption of Amendment No. 6. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, al1 those in favor, please signify by sayinq Aye. All opposed, signify by saying Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Are there any further amendments?
No furkher amendmenks reported.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XANIS) 3rd Reading. Senate Bill 1633. Mr. Woodyard? Mr. Woodyard would -- asks leave of the Body Eo return khis bill to the Order of 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. on the Order of 2nd Reading is Senate Bill 1633. Mr. Secretary, read -- are there any Ploor amendments?
Amendment No. 3, offered by Senator Woodyard.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Woodyard.
... you -- thank you, Madam Presidenk. This is purely a technical amendment to 1633. The underlying bill deals wlth dusk emissions on small grain elevators. And Amendmenk No. 3 was needed by Senate Enrolling staff and -- so it is kechnical.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 1 Any discussion? Hearing none, a1l those in favor of khis 1t3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 amendment, please signify by voting Aye. A1l those opposed: by Nay. In the opinion of the Chair, khe -- the vokes for Aye prevail, and the amendmenk is adopted. Is there any further amendment? SECRETARX NADKY : No further amendments reported. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) 3rd Reading. ...Bi1l 1681? With leave of the Body, Senator Mahar seeks leave to handle Senate Bill 1881 for Senator O'Malley who is still confined at home from his illness. Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Senator Mahar seeks leave of khe Body to return Senake Blll 1881 to 2nd Reading for the purpose of an amendment. Mr. Secretary hearing no objection, leave is granted, as I said. And on the order of 2nd Reading is Senake Bill 1881. Mr. Secretary, are there any Floor amendments approved for considerakion? SECRETARY WANRY: Amendment No. offered by Senator O'Malley. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Mahar, will you give us -- to explain *he amendment. SENATOR MARAD: Thank youy Madam Presidenk. This it's a technical amendnent. It corrects a -- a flaw. I would move iks adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any discussion? Heartng none, all khose Who are in favor, please signify by sayinq Aye. All opposed, signify by saying No. In the opinion of the Chairy the Ayes have it. The amendment is adopked. Are there any further amendments? SECRETARY HANQY: No further amendments reported. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) . 3rd Reading. Senator Burzynski. Senator Mahar, did you wish l04 r - STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I i 88th Legislative Day March 26, 1996 1 . the Floor? SENATOR MhNA4 : Thank -- thank you, Madam President. For an announcement: 1 The Senate Environment and Energy Committee Wi11 be meeting i tomorrow morning at 8:30 a.m. in Room 400 to consider two Floor amendments. PRES i IDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XANIS) Senator Mahar has announced that khe Environment -- Senate ' Environment Committeegs going to meet at 8:30 a.n., tomorrow i morning, March 27: 1996, in Room 400 at 8:30 a.m., to consider two l amendments. Senator Bonke, for what purpose do you rise? ' SENATOR BOMKE: Thank you, Madam President. To announce a eommtttee meeting of khe Local Governmenk will meet tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. in : Room A-l. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-XANIS) j i I Senator Bomke announces that the Local Governmenk Committee is i Meeking in Room A-l in the Stratton Building at 1û -- 10 a.m. $ Senator Raica, for what purpose do you rise? I SENATOR RAICA: i rurpose of an announcement. PRESIDING OFFICER i : (SENATORGEO-FANIS) 1 State your purpose. SENATOR RAICA : Public Health and Welfare Wi1l neet tomorrow morning at 0900 I hoursr A-l of the Stratton. Very short meeting. I PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KANIS) At -- the Committee on Public Welfare (sic) is going to meet at 9:00 a.mo, tomorrow morning in the Stratton Building at A-l. ' Senator Hawkinson, for What purpose do you rlse? ' SENATOR HAWKINSON : i Thank your Madam President. For purposes of an announcement. I l05 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legtslative Day March 26, 1996
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your purpose.
The Senate Judiciary Committee Will be meeting at 10 a.m.: tomorrow morning in Room 400. 10 a.m ., in Roon 400. PRESIDINC OFFICER) (SENATOR GEO-MADIS) Senate Judiciary meeting tomorrow morning at 10 a.m., in Room 400. Senator Philip, for what purpose do you rise?
Thank youe Madam President. Ild ask that the record would indicate Senator O'Malley is at home convalescing from open-heart surgery. Senator Klemm is in the hospital wikh a touch of pneumonia. And Senator Maitland is at his father-in-law's funeral in Bloomingkon.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KANIS) Thank you. Senator Dudycz, for what purpose do you rise?
Poink of personal privilege, Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KAKIS) State your point, sir.
Madam President: in the President's Gallery behind youy we have some special 4uests who are, in fact, constieuents of yours from Gurnee. We have Tom and Debbie Nemekh, with their children Danny and Andy. And I would ask that the -- that our quests rise and be recognized by the Senate.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KAQIS) Thank you. Will our guests rise and be recognized? We welcome you here. Thank you, Senator Dudycz. Is there any further business to come before this Senate? If not, Senator Bomke moves khat khe Senate stand adjourned until 11 a.n.# Wednesdayp March 27, 1996. Wedre adjourned until 11 a.m., l06 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 88th Legislative Day March 26p 1996 Wednesday, March 27. The -- wedre adjourned until 11 a.m., Wednesday, March 27. The Senate is noW adjourned. 107 /7 r> REPORT:TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOiS 96/04/11 PAGE: 001 8jTH GENERAL ASSEHBLY 10:0T:27 SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX HARCH 26, 1996 H8-0885 FIRST READING PAGE 96 HB-1056 FIRST READING PAGE 2 H8-2571 FIRST READING PAGE 2 H8-2697 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-27M7 FIRST READING PAGE 96 H8-2836 FIRST READING PâGE 2 k H8-2860 FIRST READIKG PAGE 2 H8-2916 FIRST READING PAGE 2 HB-3091 FIRST READING PZGE 96 I H8-3128 FIRST READING PAGE 2 H8-3349 FIRST READING PRGE 96 H8-3367 FIRST REâDING PAGE 9j H8-3436 FIRST READING PZGE 96 HB-3R51 FIRST READING PZGE 2 H8-3578 FIRST REâDING PàGE 3 H8-3613 FIRST READING PAGE 100 H8-3618 FIRST READING PAGE 100 H8-3669 FIRST READING PAGE 3 58-0522 SECOND READIKG PZGE 5 58-1228 SECOND READINC PZGE 5 SB-12k5 SECOND READING PZGE 5 E s8-1258 THIRD READING PAGE 62 i 58-1279 RECALLED PAGE 102 I SB-1315 THIRD READING PZGE 63 s8-1322 THIRD READING PAGE 6: 89-1338 RECALLBD PAGE 102 58-1363 SECOND READING PAGE 6 s8-1378 THIRD REZDING PAGE 12 SB-1380 SECOND READING PAGE 6 SB-1390 RECALLED PAGE 11 SB-1407 THIRD READING PAGE 16 sB-1408 THIRD READING PAGE 20 SB-1R59 THIRD REZDING PZGE 21 SB-1R65 THIRD REZDING kâGE 25 sB-1k86 THIRD REZDING PâGE 26 SB-1R86 OUT OF RECORD PâGE 26 SB-1501 THIRD READING PAGE 26 SB-1511 SECOND RERDING PâGE 6 58-1522 SECOND REZDING PAGE I SB-15qk SECOND READING PàGE 10 ; 58-1556 SECOND READIMG PAGE 7 58-1578 SECOND READING PAGE 7 ' SB-160V THIRD REZDING PAGE 3: 58-1633 RECALLED PAGE 103 sB-16R8 THIRD REZDING PAGE 35 sB-1661 THIRD READING PâGE 36 58-166) THIRD RERDING PAGE 75 58-1669 SECOND READING PAGE 100 SB-1671 SECOND READING PZGE 101 SB-:681 THIRD READING PAGE 37 58-1686 THIRD READING PAGE 81 58-1688 THIRD READING PZGE 38 SB-1691 THIRD READING PAGE :2 SB-171j THIRD READING PZGE lk SB-17M6 THIRD READING PAGE :7 sB-1?M6 OUT OF RECORD PZGE 52 SB-17%9 SECOND REZDINC PZGE 8 sB- 1757 58-1 SECOND READING 758 SECOND READING PAGE PAGE 9 9 ' 1 58-1762 THIRD READING PZGE 52 i SB-1765 OTHER PAGE 53 58-1766 THIRD REZDING PZGE 53 58-1769 THIRD READING PAGE 5: SB-1TT0 SECOND REZDI#G PZGE 9 J $) . REPORT: TIFLDZY ZTATE 0F ILLINOIS j6/0k/11 PâGE: O02 89TH GENERAL ASSEHBLY 10:07:27 SENATE DAILY TRâNSCRIPTION OF DEBATE fNDCX y4RcH 26, 1996 SB-1805 THIHD RBADING PZGE 56 sB-1811 RECALLED PAGE 57 58-1823 SECOND READING PâG6 10 SB-)881 RECALLED PZG: 1O# :8-1883 THIRD READTNG PAGE 58 SR-0182 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 95 SJR-0085 RESOLUTION OFFEHED PAGE 95 3UBJECT HATTER SENATE TO ORDER-PRESIDENT PHILIP PAGE PRAYER-PASTOR NQRHAN MENDELL PAGE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE JOURNAL-APPROVED PAGE JOURNâL-POSTPONED PAGE HESSâGES FROH THE HOUSE PAGE INTRODUCTION OF GPEST-SENATOR PARKER PAGE GUEST SPDAKER-TERESR KUDO - HISS IL 2M TFEN PàGE INTHODUCTION OF GUEST-SENATOR PETERSON PâGE GDEST SPEAKER-HARI: RITO PâGE HESSAGE FROH THE HOUSE PAGE COHHITTEE REPORTS PAGE SENATE STâNDS IN RECESS PAGE SENâTE RECONVENES PAGE âDJOURNXENT PAGE