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Illinois Senate Floor Debate — April 16, 1996

89th General Assembly (1995-1996) · Legislative day 91 · Regular Session
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89th (1995-1996)
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April 16, 1996
Legislative day
91
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PRESIDENT PHILIP

The regular Session of the 89th General Assembly will please come to order. Will the Menbers please be at their desks: and will our guests in the galleries please rise. 0ur prayer today will be given by the Reverend David Andreasen, Faith Assembly of God Church, Lincoln, Illinois. Reverend Andreasen.

THE REVEQEND DAVID ANDREASEN

(Prayer by the Reverend David Andreasen)

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Will you please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance? Senator ! Sieben.

SENATOR SIEBEN

(Pledge of Allegiance, led by Senator Sieben) :

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Reading of the Journal.

SECRETARY HADDY

Senate Journals of Wednesday, March 27th and Thursday, March 28th, 1996.

PRESIDENT PEILIP

Senator Butler.

SENATOR BUTLER

Mr. President, I move that the Journals just read by ehe Secretary be approved, unless some Senator has additions or a correction to offer.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Senator Butler moves to approve the Journals just read. There being no objection, it is so ordered. Messages.

SECRETARY NAKNY

Message from the Governor. Dear Mr. President - Pursuant to the Authority vested in the Governor by Article M. Section 11 of the Constitution of the State of Illinois, I hereby file Executive Order No. 3 to . 1 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENCKAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 9lsk Leglslakive Day April l6, 1996 reorganize the major human service departnents tn the State of Illinois. Signed by Governor Edgarz and filed on March 29th, 1996.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Messages from the House.

SECRETARY NADRY

Message from the House by Mr. McLennand, Cletk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has passed bllls of the following titles, in the passage of which am instructed to ask the concurrence of khe Senate: to wtt: House Bills 2413, 2518, 2579, 2592, 2617, 2794, 3047, 3395, 3510, 2693 and 3141. All passed khe Houser March 28th, 1996. We have a like Message on House Bills 1014, 2734, 2741, 2800, 2927, 3161: 2621, 2963, 3199 and 3227. All passed the House, March 29th, 1996. We have a like Message on House Bill 1249. Passed the Housez April l5thz 1996. A Message from the House by Mr. McLennand, Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted khe following joint resolution, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senatey to wit: House Joint Resolution 95. We have a like Message on House Joint Resolution 101. They 're both substantive. Message from the House by Mr. McLennand, Clerk. Mr. President am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has concurred with the Senate in the passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: Senate Bill 1143, 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 91st Legislative Day April l6, 1996 together with the following anendment which is attached, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the i Senate, to witl House Anendment No. 1. Passed the House, as amendedr March 29th, 1996. PRESIDENT PHILIP: I House Bills lst Reading. ! i

SECRETARY NAKNY

House Bill 1014, offered by Senator Rauschenberger. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1249, offered by Senakor Hawkinson. i : (Secrekary reads title of bill) ; r House Bill 2518, by Senator O'Malley. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2579, by Senator Smith. (Seoretary reads tikle of bill) l Senator Burzynski offers House Bill 2617 i . 4 ! (Seeretary reads title of bill) E House Bill 2621, presented by Senator Hawkinson. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2693, Senator Burzynski. I (Secretary reads title of bill) ë 1 ! House Bill 2734, Senator Klemm. p (Seeretary reads title of bill) ! Senator Shadid offers House Bill 2741. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bi1l 2794, presented by Senator Walsh. (Secrekary reads title of bill) : ' House Bill 2927, offered by Senator Madigan. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill -- or, 2963, offered by Senators Woodyard and I M i adigan. j I 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAT.ASSKMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT E 91st Legislative Day April l6, 1996 (Secretary reads title of bill) ! House Bill 3047, by Senator Eawkinson. (Secretary reads title of bill) ! House Bill -- or, 3141, by Senator Dillard. (Secretary reads title of bill) ! ! House Bill 3165, Senator Mahar. l (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3166, by Senator Walsh. ! (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3199, by Senator Walsh. I ! ! (Secretary reads tikle of bill) Senator Parker offers House Bill 3426. ! (Secrekary reads tikle of bill) House Bill 3510, by Senator Parker. l (Secretarg reads title of bill) House Bill 3520, by Senator Parker. i (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3548, by Senator Mahar. ! ; (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 3662, by Senator Dillard. l (Secretary reads title of bill) i And Senator Fitzgerald offers House Bill 3670. é (Secretary reads title of bill) lsk Reading of the bills. 1

PRESIDENT PHILIP

: ...Mahare for What purpose do you rise? SENATOR MANAN : ! Thank you, Mr. President. I rise for two purposes. First of i all, a purpose of an announcement. The Senate Envtronment and Energy Commiktee, which was scheduled to meet at 3 o'clock today, 1 ! that meeting has been canceled. And secondly, I would request ' that we -- khat I would move to suspend Senate Joint -- or, I'm 1 : 4 SQATZ OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSPMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENAQE TRANSCRIPT ( 9lsk Legislative Day April l6r 1996 sorry, senate Rule No. 4-3(a), dealing with our dress code. I -- till I get this cast off, I can't get my sport coat on, so... pRsszoaxTpHzLIp: 1 I--Iwanttoknowhowtheotherguylooks. 1

SENATOR MAWAN

Actually...

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Is leave granted? Leave is granted.

SENATOR MANAN

Actuallyr Mr. President, if I couldlosethetieandwear 1 shortstoo,itmightbemoreconfortable. j

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Senator Demuzio, for what purpose do you rise? ! SENATOR DEMUZIOI Iassumehe's -- he's wanting to waive the rule specifically 1 for him. Youknov,soneoftheMembersoveronyoursideandmy 1 side may show up in shorts and whatever. Why don'k we just do it for hin and not the rest of us? PRESIDENTPHILIP: 1 Well, I--Ithinkthat'swhatwe'vejustdone. Thatwashis 1 request. The record will so indicate: It ls just for Senator Mahar. Resolutions.

ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER

Senate Resolution 185, offered by Senator Shaw and a1l Members. 1 Senate Resolukion 186, offered by Senator Shaw and all Members. 1 Senate Resolution 187, offered by Senators Geo-Karis, Barkhausen and Peterson. ' And Senate Resolutton 188: offered by Senators Geo-Raris, Barkhausen and Peterson. I They're a1l death resolutions. ; I 5 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 91st Legislative Day April l6r 1996 Senate...

PRESIDENT PEILIP

Consent Calendar.

ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER

Senate Resolution 189, offered by Senator del Valle. And Senate Joint Resolution 88, offered by Senators Fawell and Cullerton. They are both substantive.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

o.p could have your attenkion, the Chair would like to recognize Senator Berman for some comments on the Holocaust. Will you please be in your seats? Senator Berman.

SENATOR BERMAN

Thank you, Mr. President. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, today, at 11 o'clock, we held a memorial service, as we do each year, as a Holocaust commemoration. And tf I could just take a f ! ew moments of your time, there are some thoughts that I Would like ko share with you regarding the Holocaust. The ceremony this morning, as always. is a very moving event. Governor Jim Edgar was present, gave some very meaningful comments. And I thought it was very appropriate, and I have distributed on your desks, a column written by Steve Neal, the political editor of the Chicago Sun-Times, entitled llWe Must Never Forget,'' and I hope you'11 take a few minukes to read it at your leisure. Ik talks about some of khe comments that he has received from M erican soldiers who, fkfty-plus years ago, liberated some of the Nazi concentration camps. And he also talks about some of the historical revisionists who try to convince the world that the Holocauskg , e ich resulted in the deaths of six million Jews and millions of non-lews, never took place. And I thought that you might find Steve Neal's column today of -- of interest. At khe Holocaust 1 commemoration at the 0ld State Capitol today, we heard some 6 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 1 91st Legislative Day April l6r 1996 I comments from a lovely, elderly zady. she lived in northern I I France during the Nazi Control Of Germany: France, Belgium, other I I Counkries. Her name is Katherine Lipner. She told about h0W, in I I 1943: she received, from Jewish parents, five young Jewish I I children - the oldest one was ten years old - because their I j I parents were taken away to the death camps. And she had the love I I and desire to try to protect these children. So before the I I #ZCORts were taken away to the death canps, five children were I I given to Mrs. Llpner. And she raised these children. She told of I I the story of how on one Christmas Eve, she looks out the window I j and she sees gestapo trucks coming to the area where she was 1 I I living. And she took her five chtldren and she ran down the I I sereet, on Christnas Eve. And it was midniqht, and she ran into I I the ehurch with khe five Jewish children and they attended a 1 I I midnight service on christmas Eve. And it was because of that j I service that the gestapo that searehed khe buildings didnlk find I I these five children. And Eoday, fifey years lakere one of those 1 I children still, as a niee Jewish boy, every Christmas Eve attends I I amidnightserviceinmemoryofthe--ofhisbrothersandsisters whose -- who lived with Mrs. Lipner and survived because of Mrs. j I I Lipner. Mrs. Lipner, in her closing comments, satd, 'Thank you I j for letting me share this with you.'l She said that for many, 1 many, many years, she would tell no one about what she had done. But she shared that with us# and I know that you will take the same pride that I did in her closing comments. She said, 'Thank you for letting me speak. God bless Anericao'' Thank you, Mr. President. PRESIDENT PEILIP: I Senator Geo-Karis, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR GBO-KARIS: I I Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate: ko echo I the feelings of Senakor Berman, and -- I did read Steve Neal's I 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEKAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 91st Legislative Day April l6, 1996 column today, and there is a group that thinks that Eolocaust never -- never existed. Welle my former husband was at the Camp of Dachaug and he saw the horrors, when he Was in the American Army, When they went to liberate the people. And anyone who takes it upon himself to state that they didn't have Nazi death camps and that there was no Holocaust is either deranged or completely forgetful of the fact that they have the right to be here and make whatever statements they want, even though they are so wrong . I salute Senator Berman for that very beautiful storyg and I know there are a 1ot of others like it.

PRESIDENT PHILIP

..eResolutions. Will the Members please be in their seats? Will the staff please retire to the gallery, and will the doormen please seeure the doors?

ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER

Senate Joint Resolution 89, offered by Senator Jones and all Members. (Secretary reads SJR No. 89)

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Senator Jones moves to suspend the rules for the purpose öf the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 89. Those in favor, signify by saying Aye. Those opposede Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Jones. SENATOR JQNES) Thank you, Mr. President. The resolution said it all, but I'd jusk like to add just my own personal views to the -- on this issue. I met with Ron -- Ron BroWn about five weeks ago, when he visited the City of Chicago and the Staee of Illinois - a person Who had been here many, many times; one, as the resolution spoke tor was very opene warm. But prior to his getting selected to be the Commerce Secretaryg he was on the partisan side, as relate to 8 STATS OF ILLINOIS 89TH GENEDAL ASSEMRLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I gzst teqiszative oay April l6, :996 ! I I the chairman of the Demoerat National Committee. And listening to I all the tributes that have been given him, he -- When the ! I Republican Chairman was suffering from cancer - and died; I recall . : that he went to his funeral - he went and spoke with him, even though they were opposing individuals. But it was a great loss I for Illinois, because proninent CEOs of major corporations from . ! this state was also on that trip, expandinq opportunity for ! business abroad over in Bosnia, as -- as a representative of this ! I nation. So as the Secretary of Commerce, he was attempting to : expand opportunities for us here in this country. It,s a great ! i loss for America. It's a qreat loss for this nation, because We I I lost one who could deal with everyone, be they Democrat, be they I Republican: and on the State -- taking care of State business in ! I Bosnia, visiting the troops there at the same time, trying to I I rebuild that country with the technology of those corporate I leaders who were with hin on that trip. So it was a great loss. I ! Ee was a very warm indivldual. He had been in Illinois many 1 I times, and I felt honored to have the opportunity Eo have known I him, and also honored to have ny colleagues join in support of I ! this resolution. i PRESIDENT PHILIP ! : I Senator Tom Dunn . I ! SSNATOR DUNNZ I I Thank you, Mr. President. 1, too, knew Ron Brovn. I thlnk ! that his parents represented the besk ln Ameriea. His parents 1 I owned the finest hotel in Harlem. And true to the American dream, ! they sought a better life for their child, and they sent him to I I the finest college -- one of the finest colleqes in Connecticut, I I where he achieved distinction. And you know the rest of the story I ! basically, served in the military. Ron Brown has been to my 1 hometown. I enjoyed a warm relationship with him. In the last I convention, he gave my daughter, who was then fifteen, a job as a 9 STATE QP ILLINOIS 89:E GENEKAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENAT: TRANSCRIPQ 91st Legislative Day April l6, 1996 page on the Podium. And, of course, she had better credentials than I had. She could qo anywhere, and so she got to experience something in life that you don'k ordinarily get to experience. l I I And every time I Would see him thereafter, he'd always describe ! I ! that grin on her face, because one minute she'd be leading Tom I I I Brokaw sonewhere and the next minute she'd be leading somebody I I ! else of the same stature. So it's with sadness that we have lost ! ! him He was -- irrespective of politics. There are qood people ' 1 in government on :0th sides. And irrespective of what the : I newspapers say about any of us, Ron Brown Was a credit to -- to I I I us, ko the people who take the time to qive a little bik more to I I I their counkry. Thank you. I I PRESIDENT PHILIP: ! ! SCRZVOC RCRQZYO* 1 I I SSNATOR DZZUZIO: l I ! Thank you very muche Mr. Presidentr Ladies and Gentlemen of I the Senate. I -- I had the prtvileqe of naking a feW remarks this 1 ! pase Priday in Chicago at a memorial thak was held for Ron Brown, : l and I shall be brief khis morning. 3ut I remember meetin: Ron I I I Brown when he was a candidate for the chairmanship of our Partyg ' I ! the national chairmanship, and I can remember there were ftve at I the time. And I remenber that they conducted a -- a very serious i ! ! campaign for the national chairmanshtp in -- in our Party thak : year. And I can recall that we came together in Illinois, and I ' ! can remenber the conversation that we had with Ron Brown ' l indicating that Illinois was going to support his candidacy for I I the Democratic National Committee. And I had asked one of his I I opponents at the time,Who Was a chairman of the State Chairmen's I I Assoeiation fron Michigan, and informed him that We Would be ' I ! supportin: Ron Brown. Ron Brown -- Well: that Was enough votes ë ! I for him to put him over the top to become chairman of our national Party, and I paved a way, I think, for David Wilhelm, Who was also 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 89:H GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT E 91st Leqislative Day April l6, 1996 ! i I a nember of the Denocratic Party staff when I was chairman, at ! ! thak point. Ron Brown was a interesting fellow. He was a person ! 1 who would always drop a note if he were nearby. He would always call. And he was one of those persons who, I can say today, Was a person who alvays remembered h1s friends. He never turned his ' back on old friends to make new ones. And those thtnqs that you have read about hin, and the qualificationsz and the outpouring of ! I -- of support that has been generated to his family as a result of this -- of this tragedy, I can only say khat he will be sadly ' missed by our Party. He has been -- he will be mlssed by all of l those of us -- in public offtce, and I offer his -- condolences to I -- to all of his family today and I will always have -- he is a special part of our -- our memory, and partlcularly in our prayers ! ! at Sunday at mass. Thank you. I PRESIDENT PEILIP: ! I Senator Jones moves Ehe adoption of Senate Joint Resolution I ! 89. All those in favor of this resolution will please rise. The ! ! resolution is adopted. Senator Jacobs, for what purpose do you I ! SENATOR JACOBS: I ! Mr. President, request a Democratic Caucus upon adjournment in : I Senator Emil Jones' Office. , I

PRESIDENT PHILIP

! That request is always in order. If there's any other further ' I business to come before the Senate? If not, Senator noves the -- ' whoop. Senator Dudycz, for what purpose do you rise?

SENATOR DUDYCZ

Thank you, Mr. President. For the information of the ! Membership, I have some of Mama Dudycz's Easter bread here. ' Youlre all welcome to come and try it, with some of her famous -- E world-famous beet and horseradish sauce. It's on my desk. Help ' yourselves. Staff and Members. 11 STATE OP ILLINOIS 89TH GENEKAT,ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 91st Legtslative Day April l6, 1996

PRESIDENT PHILIP

Senator Cronin, for what purpose do you rise?

SENATOR CRONIN

! For purposes of an announcement, Mr. President. ! I PRESIDENT PHILIPI 1 I Make your announcement. ! ! SENATOR CRONIN: I ! The Senate Education Comnittee shall convene at 1:45 sharp. . I We were going to meet at l o'clock, but 1:45 in our usual meeting ! I room, A-l. Thank you. I PRESIDENT PHILIP: I ! Senator Fawell, for what purpose do you rise? 1 I SENATOR PAWELL: l ! A question for the other side. I wonder if you could tell me l I approxtmately how long that caucus will be: because we, too, have ! 1 a Transportation Committee scheduled at 1? I I PRESIDENT PHILIP: I I Senator Fawell, I've been informed a half hour to forty-five I ! minukes. If khere's no further business to come before the Senate I I -- Senator Fawell. I ! SENATOR PAWELL: 1 ! Then I will call the Senate Transportation Committee for 1:45 I I in Room 400. 1:45. 4 PRESIDENT PHILIP: ! I I s there any other business to come before the Senate? If I I not, Senator Weaver moves the Senate stands adjourned until noong I Wednesday, April 17th. ! I I I I ! 12 HEPOHT:TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLIHOIS 96/10/07 PâGF; O01 E9TH GENERAL kSSZUBLY 1324422) SENàTE DâILY TRàNSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 16, 1996 HB-!01) FIRST READiNG PAGE 3 HB-12k9 FIRST REZDING PAGE H8-2518 FIHST REâDiNG PAGE H8-2579 FIRST REZDING PAGE H8-2617 FIHST REàDING PAGE H8-2621 FIRST READING PZGE H8-2693 FIRST REâDiNG PAGE HB-2T3) FIRST HEADING PAGE H3-27)1 FIRST HEADJNG PAGE 3 HB-2T9j FIRST READING PAGE 3 H8-2927 FIRST REâDING PâGE 3 H8-2963 FIHST READING PAGE 3 HB-30R7 FIRST READING PZGE 4 HB-31%1 FIRST REâDING PAGE R H3-3165 FIRST BEZDING PZGE V H8-3166 FIRST REâDING PAGE H8-3199 FIRST READING PAGE H8-3426 FIRST READING PàGE HB-3510 FIRST READIMG PAGE H8-3520 FIRST RERDING PAGE HB-J5)8 FIRST REàDING PAGE H8-3662 FIRST RDADING PAGE M HB-J670 FIRST READIMG PAGE V SR-0185 RESOLPTION OFFERED PZGE 5 8:-0186 RESOLUTION OFFERED PRGE 5 SR-018? RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 5 SR-0188 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 5 SR-0189 RESOLUTION QFFERED PAGE 6 HJR-0095 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 HJR-OIOI RESOLOTION OFFERED PAGE 2 3JR-0088 RESOLPTION OFFERED P2GE 6 sJR-0089 âDOPTED PàGE 11 SJR-0089 RESOLOTION OFFERED PAGE 8 E0-9603 FILED PAGE 1 SUBJECT HATTER SENZTE TO ORDER-PRESIDENT PMILIP PZGD 1 PRZYER-THE REVEREND Dà71D âMDREâSEN PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIZMCE PAGE 1 JOURNALS-APPROVED PàGE 1 HESSâG6 FROM THE GOVERNOR PAGE 1 HESSAGBS FHOH THE HOUSE PAGe 2 HOLCCRUST COHHEMORATION REHARKS PAGE 6 ADJOURNMENT PZGE 12