Illinois House Floor Debate — April 18, 2018

"The House will be in order. We shall be led in prayer today by Presiding Elder Elaine Gordon who is with South District Indiana Conference AME Church in Indianapolis. Reverend Gordon is the guest and stepmother of Representative Gordon-Booth. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Elder Gordon."

"Be led in the Pledge by Mr. Severin."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives Gabel and Stratton are excused today."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representative Sosnowski is excused today."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There are 114 Members present and the House does have a quorum. Mr. Pritchard is recognized."

"Please proceed, Sir."

"Welcome and thank you for joining us in the House chamber. Mr. Butler."

"Please do, Sir."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Sommer is recognized."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Welcome. Thank you for being with us today. Representative Feigenholtz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, rise on a point of personal privilege…"

"Please proceed."

"…and great pride today. In the gallery, I am joined by Marybeth Johnson, who is the Vice President of Government Relations from Lincoln Park Zoo. She's here with Karen Everingham, who's the President of the Illinois Association of Museums; Perri Irmer the President of DuSable Museum representing Museums in the Park, and Beth Dunn from Chicago Botanical Garden. I'm very fortunate I have some amazing places in my district. One, of course, is the Lincoln Park Zoo, which this year is celebrating 150 years of dedication 10000118.docx 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 to connecting people with nature and providing free family- oriented wild life experiences in the heart of Chicago along the lake front and really is at the forefront of advancing the highest quality animal care, education, science and conservation. I am proud to say that Lincoln Park Zoo is a completely free zoo open to the public. You don't need to check in. You don’t need to get a ticket. Anyone can just walk through the gates for a quick stroll or just to spend the entire day there. It's the only… it's the nation's only free privately managed zoo, home to 1100 mammals, birds, reptiles and amphibians. And this is, again, a celebration of pride to have this world class zoo in my district and I hope that everyone will join me. I have filed House Resolution 964 in honoring the 150th anniversary. Let's give them a great House welcome."

"Welcome to the chamber. Mr. Clerk, why don’t we put House Resolution 964 on the board. Representative Feigenholtz, I presume you just explained the Resolution, correct?"

"That is correct."

"Those in favor of the Resolution say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Resolution is adopted. Thank you, Representative. Did you have more to say, Representative?"

"Please add Members of this chamber to that Resolution."

"Representative Feigenholtz moves that all Members be added as a cosponsor. Is there leave? Leave is granted. 10000118.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 All Members will be added as a cosponsor to that Resolution. Mr. Skillicorn is recognized."

"Proceed, Sir."

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Harris to tell us what's right about Illinois." Harris, D.: "Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I rise on a point of personal privilege."

"You may proceed." Harris, D.: "And we've heard some good news already from the Gentleman from the 87th District. I'd just like to point out that the 2018 listings for the best elementary, middle and high schools in America were released recently. And despite all of the state's budget and funding woes, Illinois high schools did well taking the top three spots on the best public high schools in America. I'd like to single out some of them: number one, the Walter Payton College Prep in Chicago; number two, the North Side College Prep High School in Chicago; number three, Adlai Stevenson High School in Lincolnshire; number five was the Illinois Math and Science Academy, of course, in Aurora; number six, we go back to Chicago with the Young Magnet High School; number 20 on the list was the New 10000118.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 Trier Township High School; and number 24 was the Hinsdale Central High School in Hinsdale. So our young people in this state are indeed getting a quality education. Thank you."

"Thank you, Sir. We appreciate your comments. Mr. Demmer is recognized."

"You may proceed, Sir."

"Thank you very much. Representative Hammond is recognized."

"Proceed."

"Thank you very much. Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of personal privilege."

"Go right ahead, Sir."

"I'd like to introduce Conor Gross who's with me today as my Page for the day. He's from Du Quoin, Illinois. Conor’s 10000118.docx 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 quite a fine young man. His father, Josh Gross, is the Perry County Clerk. He's here with us. His mother, Lisa, and grandparents and his sister. So can we give him a Springfield welcome, please."

"Welcome to the House chamber. We're very, very happy to have you here. Mr. Bennett."

"Please proceed."

"Glad you're with us. Thank you. Enjoy your day. Mr. Sauer."

"Go ahead, Sir."

"Thank you, Representative. Representative Gordon- Booth is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Leader. A moment of personal privilege, please?"

"Proceed."

"If the… if the Illinois Principals Association could please stand, I'd like to honor you. Today in the gallery and on the floor we have individuals who are coming down to Springfield to work on behalf of the children across the state. We have the Illinois Principals Association and by far my favorite Principal in Illinois, my brother-in-law Daniel Booth, who is right here to my right. Daniel is currently the Principal at Carbondale High School. And actually this fall he's going to be one of the youngest Superintendents in the State of Illinois as the Superintendent of Carbondale Elementary School. But with the Illinois Principals Association organization toady we have with us Pat Leonard, Tom Webb, Chris Tennyson, Mary Bicknell, Bridget Belcastro, Casey Wills, as well as Alison Maley who was a mainstay in the Capitol. I want to thank you all for being here today. And if we could give them a warm Illinois General Assembly welcome, that would be appreciated. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. And thank you for joining us today. Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Please proceed."

"Great to have you with us today. Enjoy your day in Springfield. Mr. Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I could have the Body’s attention. Representative Sauer, just a few minutes ago, spoke about the Bush family and their charitable giving. It 10000118.docx 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 brought to my mind the fact that I think we're all aware of Representative Sauer's dresses very dapper, you know, he's with a lot of trends. He's a super guy. But something that came to my mind is the fact that I believe a couple of weeks ago he shaved his head. And the reason that he did this is to bring attention to children's cancer research. And it's for Saint Baldrick's, I believe? Is that correct, Representative? So if we could all give him a hand. I think this is the second or third time he's done it. Nick, thank you very much. And it's people like you who make a difference. There's a lot of people that talk but actions speak louder than words. So thank you for what you do for cancer research."

"Thank you, Mr. Costello. And Mr. Sauer, thank you for what you do for all of us. Mr. Davis is recognized."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'd be remiss as the chair of Appropriations Committee not to revisit Representative David Harris and the list of high schools that he indicated had made a fantastic list of top preforming high schools here in the State of Illinois and their comparison to schools across the country. And while I can't speak for schools… the other schools on the list that are not here in the State of Illinois, the consistent theme of many of the schools that he mentioned on his list is that they are very well-funded schools which gives them the ability to be and to rank high on that list. So I simply say that to say that money does matter."

"Ladies and Gentlemen, Members, we're going to go back to first priority Bills on Third Reading. First priority Bills on Third Reading. The first Bill on the list is House 10000118.docx 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 Bill 4413, Representative Ammons. Representative Ammons. Out of the record. Representative Ammons, do you wish to move your Bill? Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you. This Bill… I believe there's a note on this Bill still. Is that correct?"

"Bill's on Third Reading, Representative."

"Oh, thank you. I'm sorry. Left my glasses, can't see a thing. This Bill is a transparency Bill asking for all of the public pension funds to livestream for the annuitants, and the general public, their medians. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"I can't answer to why they are opposed, as no one testified in committee in opposition. The only thing that was brought to my attention is maybe some smaller pension funds that may not be able to use, even free, broadcasting streams. For whatever reason, they may not be able to use those services in places where Internet is a little spotty."

"It would apply to all public pension funds. As we are a public Body in the General Assembly required to livestream our meetings, all public bodies that deal with public funds should also do the same."

"I have talked to the AFFI, who mentioned that they were concerned about the smaller pension funds, but I had not received any language or anything as of the time of committee or since."

"I think there’s a distinction that is between simulcast. That's a different operation than livestream. Livestream can be done on multiple free platforms in this technological age and they already currently exist."

"There's no archiving requirement in this Bill."

"Yeah. It's just…" 10000118.docx 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"It's just in… it doesn't have to be maintained. It has to be shown in real-time, meaning livestream. There's no data requirement, maintenance or keeping at all of any of the livestream."

"They can."

"They can use Facebook free, YouTube. They can use any service that’s free or they can buy a simulcast system, if they want."

"Yes. They can link it just like a hyperlink that we do today for any other streaming service."

"I have not seen anyone come to me and say they don't have a website."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Morrison."

"Sponsor yields."

"That has not been an issue raised. As with livestream for the General Assembly, that is sometimes not reliable, there is no enforcement in this Bill. They are to livestream based on the capabilities that they have. And we did not instruct them how to or what service or what technology to use. It is completely up to them."

"Mr. Skillicorn."

"Sponsor yields."

"Public pension funds. If they are a considered public pension fund it applies to them."

"My obligation is not to tell you how it will work in their meetings for which I don't attend. My obligation is to make sure that public pension funds that use public dollars are transparent and available to the public. So they can do it however they want. They can use a smartphone and go on Facebook live, as far as I'm concerned."

"Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "Representative, I'm looking through the language here and I just want to make sure I understand one part of 10000118.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 this. It says that the… near the end of the Section I’m reading, a retirement system or pension fund must make audio and video available for a meeting broadcast and maintained under this subsection. Can you help me to understand what maintained is referring to?"

"Just on their website. Whatever website they utilize, they can put it there." Wheeler, K.: "But if it's maintained that means it's stored."

"It’s maintained as a person can click on livestream the way we currently do for the General Assembly. That's what we mean by maintain." Wheeler, K.: "So if I wanted to do… I want to make sure I understand this. If my pension fund were to want to do a livestream via Facebook live, that would… the intention of the Bill is that, if I understand you right. However, then they’re going to create a link from the website that represents that particular pension fund and then they got to…"

"Sure." Wheeler, K.: "That's going to happen at the beginning of the meeting then, right?"

"Sure." Wheeler, K.: "So almost instantly?"

"Yeah. I mean, I currently do it on my website. So I just link to whatever I'm doing live straight on my website." Wheeler, K.: "Okay. So, we're going to have… one person is going maintain it and then the other part of this is they’re going to maintain that link for the duration of the meeting or when does that maintenance stop?" 10000118.docx 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"There is no… there’s no time frame in this Bill to tell them how long they can keep it or have to keep it whatsoever." Wheeler, K.: "Well, I guess that's why maintain is my concern there 'cause I just… that can interpreted by some to mean they have to maintain it permanently and therefore, now you have an obligation to store that indefinitely. And I guess that's where I look at this differently. I like the theory of the Bill. I like where you're going with transparency. Big supporter of that. I just think that this is going to be interpreted as a mandate that's going to require more than we're trying to do here. So with that I just wanted to bring those to the record. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ives."

"Mr. Hays."

"This Bill is on Short Debate."

"It's the first Bill of the day, Sir. I'm letting people speak a little bit, prerogative of the Chair. Do you wish to speak on this Bill?"

"Thank you, Sir. Mr. Wehrli."

"Representative Ammons to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to all the speakers, thank you very much for your consideration of this Bill. My intention certainly is to work with my Senate Sponsor. If others bring smaller provisions that they are concerned about, the small police and fire, we are certainly open to working in our Senate to address that concern. With that, I ask for an 'aye' vote on this Motion."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Andrade, Mayfield. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 71 voting 'yes', 39 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby 10000118.docx 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 declared passed. House Bill 5760, Representative Bristow. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Bristow."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. HB5760 is similar to what… to HB643 that Representative Stuart introduced last year and was passed. This keeps the FY… full year… fiscal year ‘19 Member mileage and per diems at the same flat rate and states that there will be no COLA for the next fiscal year to Members of the General Assembly, State's attorneys, constitutional officers of the Executive Branch, or appointed positions such as agency directors or deputy directors. I… I think this is good government. And I encourage a 'yes' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Sure."

"'Cause it is quite costly for all of us. Most of us travel quite a ways to get this. And I do believe that that is fair compensation."

"Because that's the standard IRS rate. I’m sorry."

"Because that's the standard…" 10000118.docx 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"That's the standard that this Body has set since 2011."

"I'm sorry, Representative? I didn't hear you."

"It's about saving taxpayer dollars."

"It would save money, but…"

"…I'm keeping it… I'd like to keep at 2011 rates, please."

"I did not, Sir."

"They may have, Sir, but I just started four months ago today."

"It is."

"Members of the General Assembly, state agency directors, constitutional officers of the Executive Branch or appointed positions such as agency directors or deputy directors."

"I don't believe they are… yes, they are."

"They have not taken a position."

"I did not."

"State and court law, Sir."

"State and court law."

"I believe it's in the Constitution, Sir."

"I'm sorry, Sir?"

"Through this Bill, Sir."

"Through this Bill, Sir."

"I will take on changing the Constitution next year when I have a little more experience under my belt."

"We… hopefully we won't. Hopefully if this Body and the Senate gets its act together, we will be able to have our revenue exceeding expenditures and we'll all get raises."

"I do believe…"

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Bristow to close on her very first Bill."

"I thank Members of the General Assembly in advance for letting my first Bill pass and… and that we will not get raises this year."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s very first Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Cassidy, Currie, Davis, Willis. Representative Willis. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Congratulations, Representative. Mr. Drury is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have an inquiry of the Speaker of the Chair." 10000118.docx 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"State your inquiry, Sir."

"So when you say, 'Have all voted who wish?' I'm just curious. Who on the floor is actually allowed to be voting?"

"I'm not quite sure the Chair understands your question, Sir."

"So when you say… the bell rings and you say 'Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish?' is it just elected Members of this General Assembly who are actually allowed to be voting?"

"Rules cover the procedures for voting, Sir."

"Well, I've looked at the rules. I'm just wondering. So if you're an unelected person on the floor, are you allowed to be pushing the Member’s buttons and voting 'yes' or 'no' for them?"

"The rules cover the procedures for voting, Sir."

"Mr. Speaker, my concern is is that there may be some ghost voting going on in this chamber and I want to see if that's part of the rules or not."

"The rules cover the procedures for voting."

"What rule is that, Sir?"

"Well, we'll get an answer from the parliamentarian, but I think every Member of the Body has a rule book. Does every Member of the Body have a rule book? I think every Member of the Body has a rule book, Sir."

"I think that's correct. And I've tried to find the rule, but if you could direct me to the rule you're speaking of, then I'll look at it again, Speaker."

"We will direct the parliamentarian to you, Sir."

"Thank you." 10000118.docx 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"House Bill 4237, Mr. Carroll. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Carroll."

"Thank you very much, Speaker. My Bill is… is in place to offset the loss of a SALT deduction that was put into place with the new Federal Tax Law. The SALT deduction’s been around since 1913. The President originally wanted to completely eliminate SALT deductions to make up for the revenue loss slashing taxes for the ultra-rich incorporations. A compromise was reached capping the deduction at $10 thousand under what's called the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. By capping this deduction some experts view this as double taxation. We're already paying taxes once and now we're being taxed again on the same money. Illinois, as we know, is a net contributor to the Federal Government. We do not seek anything in return. In 2017, an Illinois family earning $100 thousand with property taxes of $10 thousand will now pay $675 at least of additional federal taxes under the new tax plan proposed by the Federal Government. In 2014, 32.24 members of the Illinois residents took advantage of the SALT deduction. This will affect 85 percent of residents of Illinois earning less than $200 thousand if this… now that this program has gone away. The IRS has allowed programs similar like this in California to raise money for college scholarships through a similar program. South Carolina was allowed to fund scholarships for special needs students and several states were allowed to preserve land from development through a 10000118.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 similar program to the Illinois Education Excellence Fund. Thank you. And I'll take any questions."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"I can't hear you. I'm sorry."

"Well, I just read a statistic on here that in 2017 a family earning $100 thousand with $10 thousand in property taxes will pay an extra $675. So let's assume around $700 is a fair number."

"I…"

"So we'll be paying 5 to 6 billion dollars more in taxes under the new federal tax plan."

"That was previously deductible, yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"States are similar to the idea that I've come up with in this Bill, yes. But not necessarily to what you speak."

"No, it's not. It's not. It’s not like the Invest in Kids Act. The one in South Carolina might be similar to that but not the one that I'm proposing."

"Sure."

"Yeah. The Illinois Education Excellence Fund. That's exactly what it will do, yes."

"Yes. That's correct."

"There's many circumstances in which the IRS has allowed this in the past. As I mentioned, you know, some of the states that I had mentioned in my opening remarks. So it has been allowed in the past. And frankly, with this kind of Bill, you know, the new tax plan is really hurting Illinois taxpayers. And hurting people from states like ours that are net contributors to our government. And hurting people that pay a lot more taxes, traditionally blue states. We have to find a solution to bring more tax relief to the people of Illinois and this is an option to do that. And I think we have to proceed with this until other… until we hear otherwise from the IRS. So right now they have not necessarily ruled that this unconstitutional or not allowed through the process."

"Well, it's still the charitable contribution if you're still getting 100 percent of the benefit. So, this is… there's not a precedent on this yet. So you know, again, until that ruling comes along I think we have to look at this as a good SALT workaround, you know. And Representative, you and I have discussed your plan as well and you know, I think this is something that's a little more workable and something that we can do. I certainly understand the merits of yours as well."

"Yes. I already have a Senate Sponsor."

"Well, I mean, I think that no one can make an assurance of anything but they said they will try their hardest."

"Well, yes, it is a Democratic Sponsor so."

"No. I have not."

"Yes.”

"Mr. Breen, can you bring your remarks to a close, Sir?"

"Mr. Reick."

"Sponsor yields."

"No."

"I was not." 10000118.docx 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"I can't hear you. I'm sorry. Can you…"

"Yes, Sir."

"Yes, Sir."

"Yes. Yes."

"Yes."

"Education." 10000118.docx 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Well, first of all…"

"Well, first of all, you know, I want to be clear that, you know, so far the two Representatives that have spoken are giving me opinions. We don't necessarily have facts on this yet and there's been nothing that the Federal Government has done to tell us that this is not going to work. So, as the tax law is in place, yes, there are some language there, but there's been… there's not precedent to say this isn't going to work and we've seen it work in other circumstances. So…"

"You may."

"Well, we have to do something, Sir. And I think one of the challenges that we’re facing is this was taken away. This was a thing that has been in place since 1913. It's been taken away from our residents, the ability to deduct their state and local property taxes and capped at 10 thousand. For many Illinois residents, about 85 percent of them that took advantage of this, this is going to hurt them badly. We have to try to do something. And if we go through the history of legislation and look at things that we've tried, with the idea of making them work, some of them have worked, some of them haven't. And I think this is a great idea and I think this is something that will work for us. So I'm willing to take that chance."

"Well, I think that that… again, we'll see where this Bill goes, Sir."

"Okay."

"Yes, Sir."

"They can establish a fund and set up a similar program."

"Yes, Sir."

"Well, it's up to really the local areas to work with other taxing bodies to see how the money will work. So we're giving them the option." 10000118.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"The statute… excuse me, Sir. The statute basically gives counties the ability to do this. Okay. So that's we’re… that’s what we're looking to do."

"Gives the counties the ability to what we're trying to do on the state level with the Illinois Education Excellence Fund."

"And you don't know that either, Sir. So I think that we have…"

"Mr. Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In line with my previous inquiry, if this Bill should get the requisite number of votes, I ask for a verification."

"Your request is acknowledged. Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Questions of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative… Representative."

"I can't hear." Harris, D.: "Okay. I'll speak loudly. Representative, just so I understand what we're doing here, because of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act passed at the federal level, the deduction for state and local taxes was limited to $10 thousand, correct?"

"That is correct, Sir." Harris, D.: "Okay. That limitation however was not placed on charitable deductions, correct?"

"Yes, Sir." 10000118.docx 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 Harris, D.: "Okay. So you indicated that on average the deductions in Illinois, for those folks who itemized and took the deductions, was about… what’d you say… 12 thousand-some dollars that you mentioned to me? For those folks that itemized."

"Yeah, 12,500 was the average in Illinois." Harris, D.: "Right. So there were individuals that… high income earners who would clearly be impacted by this. Those folks that had deductions greater than $10 thousand, right?"

"Yes, Sir." Harris, D.: "Okay. Of course we don't know for a fact that all those people would take advantage of something like this because the standard deduction was doubled from 12 to 24 thousand dollars, so that might lessen their tax burden somewhat, right?"

"Yes, Sir." Harris, D.: "Okay. Got it. And it's my understanding from reading the… reading the IRS Code, Section 170 that it says, contributions to organizations are deductible if made to the organizations for the use of a state, a possession of the state or any political subdivision of the foregoing. Is that as you read it?"

"I'm sorry. I'm having a lot of trouble hearing you? This Body is way too loud. So…" Harris, D.: "Well, okay. I'll shout even louder. I'm trying to help you here."

"I appreciate it, Sir." Harris, D.: "So, as I read the Section of the IRS Tax Code, it says contributions to organizations are deductible if they 10000118.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 are made to the organization for the purpose… for the use of a state, a possession of the United States or any political subdivision of the foregoing?"

"Yes." Harris, D.: "That's kind of what you're basing your… so you're setting up a fund within the State Treasury that would be a charitable fund to which high income, or anybody, could make a charitable deduction and that might… might qualify as a charitable deduction at the federal level?"

"Yes, Sir." Harris, D.: "Makes sense. Okay. All right. Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, to the Bill. I don't know if this Bill is going to work. I have no idea if the Bill is going to work. And I'm not going to disagree with what my colleagues on this side of the aisle said, except for one, and that is the IRS might audit every return in Illinois. The IRS doesn't have enough auditors now to audit the returns that are coming in now. They're not going to audit every return in Illinois, so we're not… we’re not necessarily giving… putting them under any sort of a threat. But this is the situation. Other states that have high income earners, New York, California, Massachusetts, others are trying to take… take a path that would allow those individuals to avoid or to take advantage of a charitable deduction so that they are not limited by that… by that state and local tax deduction that the feds have placed on it. Is it going to work? I have no idea if it's going to work. Is the IRS going to say, hey, this is not allowed? They very well might say that this is not allowed. But you know what, I'm not going to stop it here. I'm not 10000118.docx 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 going to vote 'no'. If indeed we have an opportunity to help our taxpayers, let's put it out there. If the IRS comes down and says, no, this is not… this is not permittable, it's going to impact taxpayers in Illinois, going to impact taxpayers in California, going to impact taxpayers in a whole bunch of states that, you know what, it's going to increase the ire of those individuals to the IRS as well. But that's a decision for them to make. They could… our Congress could have addressed this at the federal level when they passed the Bill and they didn't. So this may or may not work as I said before. My colleagues may be absolutely right that it it's not going to be allowed by the IRS. But indeed, if I can give our taxpayers the opportunity to take advantage of a deduction that the feds have, in essence, said, no, you're limited in terms of dollars and cents, but if I have the opportunity to give our taxpayers a benefit, I'm not going to pass up that opportunity. And I'm going to recommend a 'yes' vote to this Bill. Thank you."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr… I lost my little part here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield, please?"

"Sponsor yields."

"So help me understand, this is a new fund that we're going to set up or is it we're expanding a fund that's already in place?"

"No. We are setting up a new fund. So it's going to be called the Illinois Education Excellence Fund."

"And this fund will be overseen by what department, please?" 10000118.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"So the Treasurer's Office will hold the funds and then it's subject to appropriations by the Assembly."

"I'm sorry? I missed that."

"It will be held in the Treasurer's Office and then the Assembly will deal with the release of the funds."

"Okay. And so people that are in public education… schools… our public schools. It's strictly for public education, correct?"

"Yes."

"Okay. So they would then request for… it would be like getting grants. Is that the way you envision this to be set up? Distributed for grants that we would have a grant program that various public schools could apply for?"

"Yes."

"Okay. So in a lot of ways this is very similar to what we already have done when we did the school funding reform where we had the aspect of it for the private schools that people would go and then grant programs would be distributed to that, correct?"

"Yes."

"Okay. So but what we're doing is when we're looking and we’re expanding this all the way down to early childhood?"

"That could be an educational purpose. Yes."

"Okay. So in a lot of ways what we're looking to have happen here is we know that there is a funding crisis for education. I don't think there’s anybody in the entire chamber… To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I don’t think there's anybody in this entire chamber that can say that we are adequately funding education. And all this is doing really is 10000118.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 giving us another tool, another resource, that we can go to to find that additional funding. It is something that we find vital throughout the state. And I don't care what side of the aisle you're on, you know that education is not adequately funded whether it's private education, public education, early childhood education or higher education. We need more funds to be able to adequately educate our citizens throughout the state. This is just one more tool that we're putting forward to try to have that happen. I don't see anything wrong with this. This is a great way to do it. To allow those that want to participate in this system to be able to do it, to make sure that we have that adequate funding. And if you can go and offset that with a tax deduction, why not do that? Let's continue to work along those lines. Let's continue to do this. I think it's a great program. As a person that worked on a school board, also has a daughter that is in public education, this is something we need to continue to do, continue to work on throughout this. I don’t see a downside and that's the frustrating thing about this. I see a program that we have set up to work on it and I think we will continue to do this. And I certainly urge everyone to support this with an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have questions of the Sponsor. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor will yield."

"Representative, obviously I like your Bill, I've signed on as a Chief Cosponsor, but I want to ask you a few questions so that we can make a clear record. I want to first ask you 10000118.docx 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 though I'm looking at my analysis here and I don't see any proponents or opponents to this Bill. Are you aware of anyone that's in formal opposition to your legislation?"

"I'm sorry. I mean, I can hardly hear you again. So if you could… no I'm not aware."

"No one's come to you before today voicing opposition to this at all?"

"No."

"Why is this Bill even needed in your opinion? Why is this Bill needed, Representative? Why is it needed?"

"Because I think that we have a situation where the Federal Government has caused us to try to find ways of bringing tax relief to people in Illinois. And in this Bill… and really the new tax plan… federal tax plan hurts blue states like ours that are contributors and pay higher taxes. And so we have to find ways to bring relief to people. As I said before, a family making $100 thousand a year with a $10 thousand property tax liability in 2017, let's use that return, is going to lose about $675 to the Federal Government in a plan that wasn't there before. And in addition to that, Sir, I think also we look at this situation as double taxation. You're paying the money once why should you be taxed on it… you know, you're being taxed on the money two times. And I don't think that's fair."

"So, it sounds like we have a proposal here that's designed to help working families?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Is that correct?"

"Yes, Sir." 10000118.docx 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Really need some clarification here on this Illinois Excellence Fund. I like the sound of that but tell us exactly, once the state collects this money, where would the money go once the state has possession of it? Is it restricted to certain places or can it go anywhere?"

"Just like today, the money will be subject to appropriations by this Body."

"Pardon?"

"It's going to be subject to appropriations by this Body."

"So we can appropriate it anywhere or to go to schools?"

"I'm sorry, Sir. Educational purposes. Excuse me. I’m sorry. Again, I'm having trouble hearing you. There's just a lot of chatter all around me. So…"

"What other states actually do this?"

"Well, California just had their… their Senate passed a Bill similar to this that's now waiting to be voted on in the House in California. New York has looked at a similar type Bill, New Jersey as well. So some of the states that are traditionally blue states that are getting hit really hard with the lack of this deduction are looking for ways of workarounds on this."

"Are they identical forms of legislation or any differences in the Bills from those states that you've talked about?"

"They're not identical but they're very similar."

"What are the differences, if you know?"

"Some of their funds are used differently. Some of the way the money's earmarked is different. Just things like that. So ours… ours is unique to Illinois, but it’s sort of looking 10000118.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 at some of the other ways that it's been done and doing it that way."

"Is this your first Bill?"

"This is my second Bill."

"This is your second Bill?"

"Yes, Sir."

"This is a heck of a Bill to carry pretty early on in your legislative career. I want to commend you. And to the Bill, Mr. Speaker. I think this an excellence piece of legislation. I think the middle class and working families were forgotten in the Trump-Ryan tax cut Bill. This is an opportunity for us to do something right to help the people that we represent, you know, and I honestly believe Representative Carroll is on to something here. And I think, you know, we should send a strong bipartisan message that we all care about working families in this state and support passage of House Bill 4327 (sic-4237). Please vote 'aye'."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I just wanted to acknowledge the hard work the Sponsor has put into this piece of legislation. As chairman of the committee, I think it's important for the Body to be reminded that the SALT deduction, being limited in the federal Bill, caused a great amount of anxiety and… and anxiousness to our constituencies in Illinois. And this Gentleman's Bill today is going to a great way forward to sort of alleviating and mitigating that. I know the concerns about the IRS were raised. I know about what was brought forth in the questions to the Gentleman, but all in all, we have a duty to our own constituents in the 10000118.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 State of Illinois to protect their bottom lines when it comes to things that Congress does to sort of put hardships on their tax bill and this Gentleman's Bill goes a long way to do that. So, as someone who watched it go through committee and watched the effort that he put into the Bill, I certainly understand the concerns but I don't necessarily agree with them. And I would urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Sponsor yields."

"I don't know if that rule is necessarily applied to all charitable contributions, the one you mentioned about the DVD rule. So I don't know if it's a consistent type situation."

"My understanding is that this doesn't apply the same to all… you know, in all situations. And some other states have done similar things to this that have been allowed. So, you know, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, California set up something and so did South Carolina. So it has been done 10000118.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 before where people did receive a 100 percent of a tax credit."

"I believe so."

“Yes.”

"Representative, I don’t work for the IRS. So I can't tell you what the IRS is going to do."

"I want to respond to what he just said. And matter of fact, I have cosponsors from your side on aisle on this Bill 10000118.docx 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 and have reached out to several people on your side of the aisle. So I don't think that's an unfair accusation."

"Mr. Skillicorn."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"I think, they're voluntary. This is not… well, you know, I think I know where you're going with this and this is not necessarily something that people have to do. This is something people can elect to do. So people are allowed to pay their taxes in the traditional manner if they want to, Sir. But I think if they want the option of doing this they can as well. So it's not an either/or. They can… I mean, it is either/or. It's not that they have to do one or the… I mean, they do whatever they want to do with that."

"If taxation is voluntary?"

"I mean, if you don't pay your taxes, I think you get into trouble, right?"

"Taxes are? Yes. I would say."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Sponsor yields."

"Could you be more specific? I'm sorry."

"No. Basically the way this is set up is if you put money into the Illinois Education Excellence Fund you'll get a tax credit for it. So that's really the way this is set up."

"Are you talking about like a tangible object?"

"This would not be… this would just be for financial contributions. So not in-kind kind of things."

"Yes." 10000118.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"California's doing something, New York is doing… California had something go through the Senate. New York is looking… I don't know where it is with New York. I apologize. I can certainly get an answer for you on that. I know that New Jersey as well. So some of the traditional blue states are looking to do that."

"I've not heard that they are."

"I've not heard that they are either."

"Right. I think…"

"Correct. Wait, I'm sorry. Say that again?"

"Yes, they do."

"I believe they do, yes." 10000118.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Yeah. I'm not going to speak to what other states are doing. My focus is the State of Illinois."

"Well, I understand that. I'm mentioning a standpoint that was in regards to what people brought up about the IRS and how the IRS is responding to this. My Bill focuses on people in the State of Illinois, taxpayers of the State of Illinois. What Texas, Florida, South Carolina, South Dakota, whatever states you want to mention, do has nothing to do with what I'm trying to do for the people of Illinois."

"I’ve used them as an example not nec…"

"That would be probably… that would be true. Yes."

"Yes."

"I'll leave that up to you to decide."

"I'm focused on the Illinois Education Excellence Fund. The debate you want to have is for a different day, Sir."

"Representative Ives."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just want to make a point about the SALT deduction here in Illinois, the state and local tax deduction. As you discussed, the amount that you'll be able to deduct is $10 thousand. The average deduction in the State of Illinois for taxpayers here in Illinois is $12,500. I don’t care about Texas. I don’t care about Florida. And to the previous speaker, this is an Illinois debate because the average deduction is $2,500… or average payment is $2,500 more than they're going to be able to deduct under the Federal Law. So, what's it mean? Because of your philosophical vent, and the 10000118.docx 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 sword that you're falling on, if you vote 'no' for this, you are essentially raising the amount of taxes… raising the amount of taxes of over the majority of the people of taxpayers in Illinois. So vote 'no' you antitaxers. Vote 'no', and don't let them deduct local and state taxes. This is double deduction… or a double payment on taxes. You're being double taxed on your state and local taxes, if you vote 'no' on this. You're voting for that. Double taxation without Illinois representation that would be your vote. If that's what you want to do, vote 'no'. I'm voting 'yes'."

"Mr. Carroll to close."

"Thank you for the lively discussion on this; and I appreciate everyone's input on this. This Bill, for me, is really a necessity for a few reasons. I think one of them is we have to start the conversation nationally. And start the conversation nationally not only with… with our local elected people in Washington and say to them that this new tax plan hurts the taxpayers of Illinois. And I've heard from a few Congressmen that are very positive about my Bill. But I think we have to communicate with all of them and tell them you guys needs to understand what the new tax plan is doing to the people of Illinois, and how much this is impacting the people from Illinois, and how much this will continue to impact the people from Illinois unless we do something about it. You're taking a law that was on the books since 1913 and you're all of a sudden changing it on the whim because somebody in the White House wants to make sure that large corporations and the ultra-wealthy get bigger tax breaks while hurting the middle class. That is unacceptable to me. 10000118.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 And I would like us to see… send a message that that is not okay. That is not okay for the taxpayers of Illinois. That is not okay for the 85 percent of us that take advantage of this deduction and make sure that we go forward and offer people the relief that is needed for people based on this. So I'd ask you for a 'yes' vote on this. So I want to go back to the example from 2017 that I mentioned about the Illinois family earning $100 thousand a year with a $10 thousand liability. So in most people's cases, certainly in my community and a lot of communities, a $10 thousand property tax pulls on the low end of things. So we need to look at those communities and make sure they are offered relief. So I ask you for a 'yes' vote. Thank you."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. Mr. Drury has asked for a verification, so Members will be in their own chairs and vote their own switches. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 93 voting 'yes', 15 voting 'no'. Mr. Drury, do you persist in your verification? Mr. Drury persists in his verification. Mr. Clerk, please read the affirmative vote."

"Mr. Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker what?"

"Ahh, just thank you."

"I didn't hear you, Sir."

"I have no challenges to make. Thank you."

"So you withdraw your verification request?"

"Sure I do."

"So you're very much a stickler for the rules. Why don't you say you withdraw your verification request into the microphone?"

"We all have the rules, Mr. Speaker. I made my request; I withdrew it. Thank you."

"On this question, there are 93 voting 'yes', 15 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have an inquiry of the Chair, please."

"State your inquiry." 10000118.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"If you do not vote on a Bill, do you have a right to request a verification?"

"The rules allow for that, Representative."

"Oh, I would think that if you are not willing to participate in the process of the vote that how the outcome is should not really have any bearing on you. Please note that."

"Thank you for your comment. Leader Currie in the Chair."

"Representative Currie in the Chair. And it is my honor this afternoon to introduce to the Members of the House the Consul General of the Republic of Lithuania in Chicago. Mantvydas Bekesius did his law degree at the Law University of Lithuania. He has served in his country's foreign service including a special mission to Afghanistan. He served for a time, a kind of a comparable Tim Mapes, as Chief of Staff to the Speaker of the Parliament in Lithuania. In 19… 2014, he became Deputy Foreign Minister. And since 2017, he has been the Consul General of the Republic of Lithuania in Chicago. It is my honor to introduce him to you. And I hope you will join me in saying (unintelligible) which is welcome to Consul General Bekesius."

"Thank you very much. The Consul General Bekesius has graciously offered to stand at the side of the well, greet you individually and have your picture taken with him." 10000118.docx 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Representative Lang in the Chair. Representative Gordon-Booth is recognized."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A moment of personal privilege, please?"

"Please."

"Mr. Speaker, we have some distinguished guests in the gallery with us today. If you all could please stand. We have folks from the 4th Episcopal District of the African Methodist Episcopal Church with us on this great Wednesday. They are down here for the first annual AME Lobby Day; this is the first of many. We have with us Bishop John Franklin White; Presiding Elder Albert D. Tyson; Presiding Elder Walter Bauldrick; Presiding Elder Gary McCants; Pastor Larry Lewis with Bethel AME in Champaign; we have Pastor Adrian Johnson who serves her flock in my community Peoria, and we have some especially special guests to me, my father who just recently celebrated your 78th birthday two days ago. This is his first trip to Springfield to visit his baby girl. And my stepmother, who is also an Elder within the AME congregation. So, if we could please give them a warm House of Representatives round of applause. And thank you for serving God and all of His people."

"Welcome to all of you. Thank you for joining us in the House chamber today. Ladies and Gentlemen, we're going back to priority Bills. House Bill 5288, Mr. Andersson. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Andersson." 10000118.docx 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a lot of Bills. Please record yourselves. Leader Currie, Chapa LaVia. Please take the record. On this question, there are 113 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5542, Mr. Batinick. Please read the Bill." 10000118.docx 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Mr. Batinick."

"Excellent, Sir, but I would like to hear more."

"Seems you were right. Mr. Andersson. Waves it off. Mr. Rita. Also waves it off. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke, Davis, Harris, Hoffman, Scherer. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4348, Mr. Connor. Please read the Bill. Mr. Connor, I understand you have an Amendment. Mr. Clerk, please put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading and please read the Bill."

"Mr. Connor on the Amendment."

"The Amendment makes some changes to basically who gathers the DNA in order to assist with the identification of unidentified remains. It was done in conjunction with the Illinois Coroners Association." 10000118.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5123, Representative Conroy. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. This Bill simply allows the DuPage County Board to return the election commission to the clerk's office."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's correct. There's been a little bit of back and forth for the last couple of years, but this year it's an agreed Bill."

"Yes. It's been a little embarrassing to come from DuPage during an election cycle."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, everyone. Evans, Fine, Gordon-Booth, Mussman. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please excuse Representative Skillicorn for the rest of today."

"Thank you, Sir. House Bill 4990, Mr. Crespo. Mr. Crespo. Please read the Bill. Mr. Crespo, you have an Amendment. So, we'll move this Bill to the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Mr. Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. The House Floor Amendment provides that the report on the effectiveness of the program must be provided electronically to the General Assembly."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5070, Representative Bellock. Please read the Bill." 10000118.docx 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Representative Bellock."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4663, Representative Bourne. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bourne."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4923, Leader Currie. Please read the Bill. Leader Currie, you have an Amendment. Mr. Clerk, please put the Bill on the Order of Second Reading and please read the Bill." 10000118.docx 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. This requires electronic filing of reports due from the Treasurer to the General Assembly. I know of no opposition. I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4846, Mr. D'Amico. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. D'Amico."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Burke, Lilly. Please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 15 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4645, Mr. Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. This is to… this Bill is to extend the sunset date of the health… Illinois Health Facilities and Planning Act for an additional 10 years."

"Mr. Breen."

"The Sponsor yields."

"The Act itself."

"Well, we're extending the Act and in the Act is the Certificate Of Need program."

"In 2019, yes."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "So this extends the Illinois Health Facilities Planning and Services Review Board. It doesn't eliminate the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Services and Review Board, right?"

"That is correct." Harris, D.: "Right. Ladies and Gentlemen of House, to the Bill. There was a former President who used to have a saying that went like this, the closest thing to eternity here on earth was a government program once it got started. And this is the 10000118.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 prime example of that saying because the Illinois Health Facilities Board, now the Illinois Health Facilities Planning and Services Review Board, came into existence in the 1970s. And the idea was, well, we'll have these planning… planning rules that not every hospital needs a CAT scan, not every hospital has to do hearts, not every hospital has to do every service. It didn't come about like that. The competitive nature of the health care marketplace says if a hospital over here has a CAT scan by gosh this hospital over here wants a CAT scan. If this hospital does hearts that hospital wants to do hearts. My point is that the planning prevents the competition. It can be easily argued that this a franchise protection. It keeps outsiders from coming in and lowering the cost of health care. So, my guess is this Bill is probably going to pass. I don’t know the why we have to do it now versus next year, but I will tell you if ever… if ever there was a government program that needs to go away, this is the one that needs to go away. Thank you."

"Mr. Wehrli."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, ironically enough, and I think I was going to maybe put this into my closing, unlike what the previous Representative said that speaks to competition and this will be an open market for hospitals, I think another challenge would be is where those hospitals are. This process at least tries to make sure that when someone files an application and 10000118.docx 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 wants to do something that they are trying to ensure that they're not leaving communities that within the unserviced that they are trying to make sure that Medicaid patients are taken care of. So the idea of having competition means that a different set of rules and criteria will apply and that those same hospitals will then be making decision about who they want to service. And so this Act and this process offers some protection relative to making those kinds of decisions. So, you can talk about the consequences. If this goes away, there are some real consequences that will happen, if this goes away."

"Abused… has the board been abused politically?"

"Not that I'm aware of."

"Mr. Riley."

"To the Bill. I support the passage of this Bill. One of the speakers from a few minutes ago, who I really respect, just has a different opinion than I do of what this Bill does. This Bill does protect, I feel, the marketplace because one of the things that it does do it does look at utilization within a hospital. It looks at adding other units of service of care. And it does look at whether or not one particular institution has a CAT scanner, does another particular institution need one too. We have gone on and on and on and on in this country with regard to looking at the adequacy of health care and whether or not it's being provided correctly. The genesis for this particular organization in our state comes from a federal statute. All health planners know about it. It was 93641, the 93rd Congress. Around 1974, I think it was, with the National Health Planning Act. They wanted states to be responsible with looking at the very things that this particular organization does. And to tie it to someone who's in jail right now, that has nothing to do with the organization itself, had to do with people who are untrustworthy, not this organization that's try… or you know, department rather, that's trying to look at adequacy, 10000118.docx 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 duplication and all the things that we always say that are for. So don’t tie something that's totally unrelated with what this Bill is trying to do. I support this Bill and you should too."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Representative McDermed."

"Mr. Davis to close."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I certainly appreciate the comments. I think probably what's one of the more disturbing comments was the Representative standing in the back that talked about a Democratic Governor who used this process for presumably his own benefit; and therefore, let's get rid of it because of what he did to it. But that brings to mind a Republican Governor who used the Secretary of State's Office for his benefit. Now are we getting rid of the Secretary of State's Office because of what he did? No. It has a viable… it's a viable organization and as a result there have been reforms, there have been things put in place to make sure it does not get abused again. So, again, if we're going to make the correlation, well, then we can make other correlations as well. This board has a viable process to make sure that communities are not left underserved. Ironically enough, when Silver Cross decided to move from Joliet, this 10000118.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 board made sure that they left services, didn't say you can't move. So we're trying to impede that process or that competitive process, but it said you just can't leave communities that are underserved without leaving them something, so to make sure that they left something in Joliet. So this process helps to protect communities, underserved communities in particular. And again, what we know about the competitive, the free market process is that it's all about the bottom line. They don't give a damn about communities. They don’t care whether they move from this community to that community. They're just trying to find the best payer mix. This process protects underserved communities and that's why we should allow them to continue to operate for another 10 years. So regardless of the things that were mentioned about transformation, those conversations can take place. And not every hospital is going to go through a transformation. So if you want to talk about that section of hospitals, fine, let's talk about that, but that's not every hospital. So let's not throw, as they say, the baby out with the bath water and then just open it up without any checks and balances. Let's keep this process in place. And again, if the current Governor, that's making appointments to it, decides at some point maybe it does need to go away then of course he'll ask one of you, maybe even ask me I don’t know, to introduce a Bill after we’ve had all the conversations that many of you are talking about with regard to the process. But for right now this is our protection and it needs to remain in place. I ask for a 'yes' vote." 10000118.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Mr. Wehrli, you've already spoken in debate. For what reason do you rise, Sir?"

"Gentleman does not wish to speak. Those in favor of Mr. Davis's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ford. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 62 voting 'yes', 50 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4711, Mr. Breen. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Breen."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Mr. Wheeler." Wheeler, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please excuse Representative Bill Mitchell for the rest of today."

"Thank you. House Bill 4998, Representative Bryant. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bryant."

"Mr. DeLuca. Those… those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5062, Representative Flowers. Representative Mary Flowers. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. No running, Representative."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 5062 is a job training Bill. And currently in state statute we had vocational education, then we had… we still have technical education and this is advanced technology education. And we have an opportunity to train young people throughout the state, those who choose not to go to college, train them for the skill jobs in manufacturing, that the manufacturing industry need desperately. And this is an opportunity where the state can get federal funds. And it's just a win-win situation for everyone. And if we were to implement this program, it'd be more revenue for the young people and much more revenue for the State of Illinois. So with that being said, I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you may have in regards to House Bill 5062. I would appreciate the passage."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's correct."

"The state board. It's their responsibility. It is within the law that the state board has an obligation to go out and seek funds and funds are available. And furthermore, the manufacturings are willing to put in their moneys as well because they need the help. And I wanted to just give you an example, years ago before the new cars came out you used to be able to go to your alley mechanic to get your vehicle fixed, but now there's all this technical stuff with the cars. And so Mercedes and Chryslers they work with the junior colleges to help train students so they can hire them to fix these vehicles. So they've made an investment in their own company and they made it so that people were able to become educated on how to fix their vehicles and it's a win-win 10000118.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 situation. And now you can get your car fixed. And people working and creating jobs. More revenue for the state."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"There's… the 12 schools would be identified. And so if they are identified, they shall participate. It will be voluntary if they so choose to want to, but once they are identified, they will have to participate, yes."

"Yes. And that is the current law for the state board. Again, their… in current law it is… the General Assembly designated the state board responsibility for educational policies and guidelines for public schools, preschools, grades through… through 12, career and technical vocational education in the State of Illinois. That is what’s in current law. That is currently now what the state board shall do. They shall analyze and present for future needs and requirements of the education in the State of Illinois and make recommendations. And the power… the board should also seek out funds to help fund the training programs."

"Representative, again, I'm just going to repeat to you what's in state statute under the superintendent public instruction dated January 12, 1975. And it says, the board is responsible for the educational policies and guidelines…"

"…in conjunction… And also… also in another Section it talks about how the state board have to go out and seek and work with these companies in order to carry on these programs, to help create the policies and the programs."

"Well…"

"Again, Representative, it is up to the state board to… it currently it is their job to seek out the funding. And for instance, there are… under the National Science Foundation, there are various collaborations with other schools that's given millions of millions of dollars. And I'll be more than happy to share with you that information, just for programs such as this because this is creating jobs, this is creating revenue for the various states. And so we're just keeping up with the modern times. We are moving into the 21st century. There's new technology out there. Young people need to be trained. Manufacturers need trained people. And this is a win-win situation. And it is currently in the state board's authority to do so." 10000118.docx 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"You know, Representative, the employers… when you say that area, you mean in the City of Chicago or on the south side? Because the employers could be anywhere. That's the good thing about technology once you achieve that education you can take it any place with you. And so it doesn’t necessarily have to be down the street or around the corner. And people are free to travel back and forth."

"Well, then that’s not… but that's not in the Bill."

"That is not in the Bill, Sir. That's not in the Bill. But there are certain areas…"

"…there are certain areas of the state that is in need of training. Currently in your area I'm sure there's some type of technological training going on right now."

"But in other areas of the state…"

"The answer is yes." 10000118.docx 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"That's the State Board’s job."

"No…"

"No."

"Thank you."

"Representative Flowers to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. There are a lot of manufacturing companies throughout the state that's seeking trained people to come and work for them. They are in need of workers. There are young people out there that's in need of training. It is the responsibility of the State Board of Education to… it is the responsibility of the State Board of Education to provide education in a term applied to schools, institutions, an educational program that specialize in skill trades and applied science and modern technology. That's exactly what this Bill would be doing. That is currently the definition of what the state board 10000118.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 should be doing right now. This is a good Bill. This legislation is about reform, reforming from vocational education, technical education, to advanced technology education. This Bill is a win-win situation to help the State of Illinois bring more revenue into the state's coffers. I would really appreciate, for the sake of the young people, for the sake of the state, I would really appreciate an 'aye' vote on House Bill 5062. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ladies and Gentlemen, please record yourselves. Cassidy. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 79 voting 'yes', 31 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5201, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

"Mr. Ford."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 5201 is an initiative of the Cook County Recorder of Deeds Office. 5201 creates the mechanics lien demand and referral pilot program and provides that the program is to expire on January 1, 2022. A mechanics lien is a legal claim available to contractors or subcontractors or suppliers for providing service or materials to a customer but is not paid. The lien is a tax to the real property from the date that the work is completed or material furnished. The goal of this Bill is to simply give the contractor or the subcontractor or 10000118.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 the supplier two years to bring a suit for the claim or they will no longer have the right to sue for their mechanics lien. I move for the passage of House Bill 5201. And I’ll take any questions."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Correct, Representative."

"Thank you."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, can I clarify the intent of 5201? As I read it here it suggests that current law allows a contractor or subcontractor or supplier to currently place a lien. Is this on a… like home of some other person?"

"Yes. It’s for a real property."

"Okay. And so they can currently place a lien as it… as of current law today?" 10000118.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"They could place a lien, but it would have to be litigated to solidify that it's a good lien. Right now, we have lots of mechanic liens being placed on properties, but there's been no claim to bring them forward. So people may be trying to refinance their properties or sell their properties and they cannot do so because the mechanics lien is on their property and the contractor, supplier is nowhere to be found and that causes problems for the homeowner."

"And it… so, this particular Bill would make them have to bring it forward before you can just… you just can't leave the lien on this property. Is that what it’s doing here?"

"This… if this Bill should become law, it gives them two years to bring forward a claim to court to try prove that their claim is legit."

"And then after the two years, then it would… that lien, assuming they don't bring that forward, then that lien will drop off of that property?"

"That's right. The contractor, supplier, or subcontractor would lose the right to sue for that mechanics lien and that property will then be free of it."

"Okay. Thank you… I thank you for the clarification."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Batinick."

"Sponsor yields."

"Out of 102? I’ll… let me run them down to you. No. I'm not sure, but I could find out. One moment. Okay. Yeah, we don’t have the number, but we do believe that most counties have administrative courts to hear these claims."

"That's right."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Is it my understanding that Cook County sort of did a pilot program on this where they're notifying people and there are liens and it was very successful. Is that not correct?"

"I'm not sure, but this will be a pilot program."

"Okay. So my understanding when I was… with some work that I had done with the Recorder that she actually had something similar to this. And one of the most important aspects to this Bill, I think from what I'm reading, is notification of the homeowner that they have a lien against them. So that they're not blindsided later on. Is that not correct?"

"You're correct."

"Thank you. To the Bill. I had a constituent in my area that had this happen to them and it cost them thousands and thousands of dollars trying to clean up something that was on there for 15 years that they had absolutely no idea that they had this lien on there. And it was actually a very small lien, but again, it was a problem of that they had no idea who this person was, how to get through it and working it. And they 10000118.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 actually wanted to take out a second mortgage to expand their house and they couldn't because of this lien. I think this is a wonderful piece of legislation. It's good business. It does… it certainly doesn't do anything to belittle or lessen the debt that is owed, but I think it puts some responsibility on the other side of that also that you need to make sure that you also have your ducks in a row when you're asking for payment. So I strongly urge the Body to give us an 'aye' vote on this. Thank you, Mr. Ford."

"Mr. Ford to close."

"Thank you. I move for the passage of 5201."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5195, Representative Greenwood. Out of the record. House Bill 4956, Mr. Cavaletto. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Cavaletto."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Ammons, Moeller. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 96 voting 'yes', 11 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5686, Mr. Butler. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Butler."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there’s 108 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4909, Mr. Guzzardi. Mr. Guzzardi. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members. This Bill is a follow- up on a Bill that we did last year which enabled homeless Illinoisans to get access to their birth records from the state without having to pay a $10 fee. This Bill would simply extend that to youth in care, our foster youth and foster alums, youth who… who were in care out to the age of 27. This birth certificate is a vitally important document to enabling them to rent a home, to get a driver's license, to find a job, and to live a healthy and sustained life. And I ask for your support."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all 10000118.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke. Please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4702, Mr. Halpin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halpin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4702 is a codification, yeah, within the Trusts and Trustees Act relating to the powers of appointment. Right now the laws governing powers of appointment, which is disposition of property after giving someone authority to do dispose of property. Currently that's all scattered in case law. And what this uniform Act does is codify Illinois law into statute. It helps practitioners. It helps clients. And I'd… happy to answer any questions, but I’d ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"That's correct. This is a nationwide effort trying to actually codify law and make it as uniform as we can but including the existing Illinois specific parts of the… of the statute." 10000118.docx 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"It saves times for attorneys. You don't have to figure out what the latest case says. It's right there in the statute for the most part and it saves clients money."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Arroyo, Bristow, Carroll, D'Amico. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Wehrli is recognized."

"The record will reflect your intentions, Sir. House Bill 5513, Leader Durkin. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Durkin."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I just want to explain the reason why I'm going to be voting 'no' on this Bill. And it's certainly no disrespect to the Minority Leader. I vote 'no' on all of the individual scratch-off Bills simply because, think about it, if every 10000118.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 Member of the General Assembly had an individual scratch-off Bill, there would be confusion out there within the lottery in terms of what to do and what to play and it would dilute the gaming of the lottery. Additionally, if you look at the revenues that come in from these individual scratch offs, and there are currently five of them this would be the sixth, what has happened is the first year there's… there's a lot of enthusiasm and those individuals buy tickets, but then there's a fairly noticeable drop off over the years. So I'm simply concerned that this isn't going to provide the type of money that's really going to be needed. Again, it's just a 'no' vote on my part. I vote against… I vote 'no' on all of these. Absolutely no disrespect to the Minority Leader on this, just a position on my part that I don't think it's… we, the Legislature, should be dictating individual scratch offs. Thank you very much."

"Leader Durkin to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Kelly Burke. Please 10000118.docx 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 106 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Breen is recognized."

"Thank you, Sir. House Bill 4096, Mr. Harris. Out of the record. House Bill 4808, Mr. Fortner. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Fortner."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Currie. Please take the record. There are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the 10000118.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4822, Mr. Halbrook. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Halbrook."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Moylan, Burke. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4395, Mr. Hays. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Hays."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Manley. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 106 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 5537, Representative Jesiel. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Jesiel."

"Representative Hurley. Is your light on on purpose? It was. The Lady does not wish to speak. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Burke, Crespo. Please take the record. There are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4295, Representative Jimenez. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Jimenez."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Just want to clarify that this Bill asks them to study the potential location of future positions and not current. Is that correct?" 10000118.docx 106  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"I'm sorry? I cannot… I can't hear you at all, Sara. I'm sorry."

"So this…"

"So currently, if there are positions that are located in other parts of the state, this could potentially require those positions to be relocated to Springfield? That's basically what it's doing."

"Okay. So I just wanted to make sure. People are hearing that this is potentially could move jobs from other parts of the state to Sangamon County and you guys should know that that's the potential of this Bill as it is currently being presented. Thank you."

"Mr. Batinick."

"Sponsor yields." 10000118.docx 107  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Mr. Davis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Just, again, I apologize for you having to repeat this, but you said something about if it's not necessary for that 10000118.docx 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 position to be in another part of the state. How is that determination made?"

"Through…"

"My question though is process. So you said the CMS Director makes a determination through…"

"Again, that's what I’m… through what process? They just get together over a beer and say, hey, let's move this position here or that position… I mean, process. What is that process that they undertake or is it just the two of them coming to an agreement?"

“Okay.”

"But I mean, the fact that if I'm in northern Illinois to think that I may not have the need for someone from the EPA or DNR for that matter, even though I'm in the south suburbs… I mean, I'm just trying to make sure I understand because what it would imply is that, again and I'll just say sometimes, you know, state employees don't have the familiarity with the entire state maybe they should, that they would then be making arbitrary decisions about moving employees. As you indicated Sangamon County would be the default county but that's why I'm asking about process. Because again, with regard to what you said earlier about they have the ability to do that but their ability to do that is not then based on the fact that if they make a decision and it automatically comes to Sangamon County. Your Bill would say that it automatically comes to Sangamon County. So they could make a decision currently and then that position could go to another county. But…"

"Again, you said that if they don't. So if they choose not to, then it automatically defaults here. And again, you said with regard to where the constituents have need, you know, constituents have need for any myriad of services at any part of the state. I guess I, again, just be concerned that this is an effort to centralize everything in Sang… well, those positions you speak of in Sangamon County without regard to the remainder of the state. And so then is the reverse of that true? That if they see a need to then move a position to another county they can then do that as well?"

"So are you aware of any current situation where because a agency processes the majority of their claims in a particular area that decisions like moving employees has been made?"

"Well, I guess I'm looking at the reverse of that. So right now it says if there is no designation for a particular position then it would automatically be deferred here. So, I'm just wondering, have they ever declared a position and 10000118.docx 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 then said well the majority of that work is in another part of the state other than Springfield and then suggested moving that position up to Springfield?"

"I mean, up to another part of the state other than Springfield? I'm sorry."

"Okay. Very briefly to the Bill, Mr. Speaker. So I think I share the same concern that one of the previous Representatives shared about the decision making process to do so. And if there's an overt effort to move all of the positions first then to Sangamon County and then fill them with people only from Sangamon County or in the surrounding 10000118.docx 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 area, I would be concerned that your Bill would accomplish something like that. And there wouldn't be any desire to then move those positions maybe back to where they were previously located and that the goal is to try to centralize as many jobs here in Sangamon County as they possibly can. So I do have some… some reservations about what you're suggesting. And again, if you're saying that agency directors and CMS can already do that, then the question would then become why is this Bill necessary in order to do it? You don't have to answer. I'm speaking to the Bill. So but that's a looming question that would be out there if they can already do it then why do we even need this Bill? So thank you very much, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

"Gentleman moves the previous question. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the previous question is put. Representative Jimenez to close."

"Those in favor of the Lady’s Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Burke, Currie, Feigenholtz, Olsen, Sente, Winger. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 82 voting 'yes', 16 voting 'no', 5 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4507, Mr. Long. Please read the Bill." 10000118.docx 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Mr. Long."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Burke, Carroll, Feigenholtz, Moeller. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 105 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Turner in the Chair."

"House Bill 5143, Representative Mah. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Mah."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Body. This is a Bill that is intended to raise awareness about bicycle safety and ultimately to save lives. An IDOT report has shown an increase incidence of dooring accidents over the past several years. 10000118.docx 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 These accidents can cause serious injury and even death. What this Bill does is it adds the Dutch Reach method of opening car doors into the Illinois Rules of the Road and it includes bicycle safety questions in the driver's exam. Dooring accidents take place when a bicycle is approaching a parked car alongside it… along the driver's side and the door is flung open and may injure or kill the cyclist. So the Dutch Reach method calls for opening the car door with your right hand so that you turn and look behind you to see if there's an approaching bicycle and you open the car door safely and without swinging it open. So I know of no opposition to the Bill. I've been working with the Secretary of State's Office. I ask for your support. Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"So it's not a mandate. It places this method of opening ones car door into the Rules of the Road so that the general public is encouraged to learn about it and be prepared to answer questions about it on the exam. So it's designed to increase awareness about a safe method of opening a car door. And you know, if more people could be encouraged to use that 10000118.docx 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 method of opening the car door, it could potentially save lives. But there’s no penalty for not opening ones car door in that way."

"So it's consistent with current statute or current standards that you mentioned. It simply…"

"…adds an additional method that is suggested and it has been proven effective in reducing these dooring fatalities."

"It's simply an educational tool to raise awareness about a method that encourages bike safety. And I don't believe that it is inconsistent with current Vehicle Code."

"Well, there's…"

"There's no penalty for not using the method. It's…"

"…simply added to encourage bicycle safety and to encourage people to learn it. If it is a driver's exam question, it'll be taken more seriously and hopefully encourage greater awareness of a method that is safer then flinging ones door open without looking."

"Chair recognizes Representative Butler."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"That's correct." 10000118.docx 118  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"That's correct."

"Chair recognizes Representative Jesiel."

"The Sponsor indicates that she will yield."

"I've been working with the Secretary of State's Office and they have been planning for an update already. And so I believe that it's something that is consistent with their scheduled process of updating their Rules of the Road."

"The process has already been started through the Secretary of State's Office to update their Rules of the Road booklet. And they have a process in place that would be taking place regardless of the passage of this Bill or not."

"Chair recognizes Representative Guzzardi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just quickly to the Bill. I want to echo the remarks of Representative Butler to say that I think it's quite plain that this Bill does not change anyone's legal liability, doesn't make people subject to additional lawsuits. It simply is a measure intended to instruct drivers on safety with respect to bikes. And I rise simply as someone who has been doored before. You guys may have seen me riding around Springfield. Back up home in Chicago I've been riding around on my bike and someone opens their car door and there's nothing you can do because you're riding as fast as you're riding and the door is suddenly open 10000118.docx 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 in front of you and it's very dangerous. I was fortunate not to be injured too badly, but I've had friends who've been injured quite seriously being doored. It's a real problem. And taking two seconds out of the driver's handbook to show people a safe way to open their door, so as to protect cyclists, seems awfully reasonable. I think it's a commendable Bill. I'm proud to be a cosponsor."

"Representative Mah to close."

"So, as I previously mentioned, this is a Bill to increase awareness about a road safety… bicycle safety measure and it has bipartisan support and does not mandate any particular behavior but is designed to save lives. So I ask for your 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 5143 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the roll. On a count of 87 voting 'yes', 12 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 5143, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Ervin, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please let the record reflect that I meant to vote 'no' for House Bill 4295."

"Thank you. The Journal will reflect your request. Representative Ford, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, would you please let the Journal reflect that I meant to vote 'no' on House Bill 4295." 10000118.docx 121  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

Speaker Turner: "The Journal will reflect your request, Representative. House Bill 4870, Leader Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill creates Ashley's Law. Ashley is an 11-year-old cancer patient who uses medical cannabis legally to prevent seizures stemming from chemotherapy. She’s a very sick young lady and a very brave young lady. She’s a legal medical cannabis patient. Has a medical cannabis card. Her parents have cards as caregivers. But she was prohibited from taking the cannabis that is absolutely necessary to stop the seizures she gets from her chemotherapy at school because the law didn’t allow for her to have it at school. The family went to court and the Federal District Court ordered that the school require… that the school allow the family to medicate the child appropriately. This is a Bill that was worked out with ISBE and with the Department of Public Health. And this would simply say that a student, under these circumstances, can be medicated by a parent in a designated location at the school. It requires that the child be legal… a legal medical marijuana or medical cannabis cardholder and that the product be administered by a legal caregiver under the Medical Cannabis Act. This is lifesaving. This is necessary. It does not expand the law in terms of who can use cannabis, when they can use cannabis. Children are already allowed under the law to do this under given circumstances. This just would allow a parent 10000118.docx 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 in these circumstances to medicate their child and allow it to happen at a school when appropriate. I ask your support."

"Chair recognizes Representative Breen."

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"All schools, Sir."

"And before you go on, I should say that this product cannot be smoked by these children. It has to be an ingestible of some kind."

"This requires the school to decide where such an activity would take place, if it… if it's necessary."

"That's correct. Most of the time for children, often it’s cancer, but actually most of the time it's epilepsy. Some years ago this chamber, by a substantial vote in the 90s, 10000118.docx 123  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 authorized children to be able to use this product for epilepsy."

"That's correct. If a child needed other medication, a pill of some kind at school, the school would make arrangements for the child to be able to take that pill. But under our laws, children are not allowed… cannabis was not allowed in schools. So this would create the opportunity for a very sick child to be able to get the product that they're already legally allowed to use."

"There are no opponents that I'm aware of, Sir."

"Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Pritchard."

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"That is correct. The school district under this Bill would get to decide where, an appropriate location. The school 10000118.docx 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 district would also have the ability to say we don’t have a where and it's too disruptive here. Or they have the ability to say we think this is going to disrupt any federal reimbursements we're getting or any federal dollars we're getting and so we're going to reject this. But the school would have to affirmatively do that."

"Well, they could under given circumstances, but they would have to, in essence, certify that they believe it will jeopardize federal funds and prove it. That's not… that's not going to be the case. It didn’t happen in Colorado. This is modeled after a Colorado law. It has never happened."

"Well, that's an unknown factor, Representative. We left that language in there because we felt it appropriate that we didn’t know every situation in every school building in the State of Illinois. And if a school… I suppose could prove they had no place to do it that they felt was appropriate, they could say no. And I suppose if the family felt aggrieved they could do what this family did, go to court and get a court order. We’re trying to avoid that, of course."

"Whatever is legal under the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Act. This does not expand the kinds of products that can be used."

"Thank you."

"Chair recognizes Representative Ives."

"The Sponsor will yield."

"Well, the… the Amendment that was proposed by ISBE, which included language from the Department of Public Health, would say that they have to create the policy, they have to create the location. But if the… if it creates a disruption to the school's educational environment, the school could decide not to do it. But I suppose then that would be the cause for another court case."

"Well, it is the school, Representative. They get to decide where. So the whole point is that the school shouldn’t be deciding what medications children use, that's up… that's not up to a school. And so this would say that a legal… a child who can legally use this product can use it at school. And the school should figure out the right place for them to do that. It does give them a small out if they believe it is disruptive to the educational environment. But I can't imagine too many schools saying to a parent, your child who's 11 years old and has cancer and is under chemotherapy and is having seizures cannot use this product at school. We want kids in school whether they're… whether they have cancer or whether they have epilepsy or not. We want them in school and this is the way to do that."

"I don’t know. This is the language of the State Board of Education. They asked me to put it in the Bill. And in an effort to be cooperative to them I did that." 10000118.docx 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"I don’t know if that’s common or not. But I'm… I'm not thinking we’re going to be see too many parents on school buses delivering this product to children."

"Thank you."

"Leader Bellock is recognized."

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"I do not remember about that, at all. I can't tell you. Maybe someone else on the floor could."

"Representative, this isn’t a curriculum mandate. This is about sick children."

"So, sick children could be in a Catholic school, the Jewish school, or a public school. So this is why it covers all schools."

"This child had cancer and was under treatment with chemotherapy and was developing terrible seizures. And with the cannabis, the seizures are reduced to zero, from dozens and dozens a day to zero."

"They… they have to provide that proof to the State Department of Public Health to be able to get their medical cannabis card. Once they have that card that is proof that the State of Illinois has determined that the child, or even if it was an adult that the person holding that card is… is legally… fits all the elements necessary under the law to have the card."

"That is correct."

"Leader Lang to close." 10000118.docx 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"This is about giving children medication they need. It's certainly not about kids getting high. It's not about anything other than little Ashley, and other kids like her, who have serious medical problems and are legally able to take a product but can't take it at school but for the current law. We have a responsibility to take care of these kids. This does not expand the Medical Cannabis Law. It only expands a locations where children who need this product can use it. Please help these kids and vote 'aye'."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 4870 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the roll. On a count of 99 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 4870, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Members, Second Reading. Please be in your chair and prepared to present. House Bill 1469, Representative Burke. Out of the record. House Bill 5771, Representative Chapa LaVia. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1471, Representative Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Evans."

"Take it out of the record."

"Mr. Clerk, please take this Bill out of the record. House Bill 5096, Representative Hernandez. Out of the record. House Bill 1265, Representative Hoffman. Out of the record. House Bill 1472, Representative Mayfield. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, out of the record. House Bill 5214, Representative Sente. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5778, Representative Stuart. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Stuart."

"Floor Amendment #1 is just a technical Amendment that has to do with the phase out of the tax and reinstating it… the credit, sorry, not the tax."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 5778. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5777, Representative Yingling. Out of the record. House Bill 4412, Representative 10000118.docx 131  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 Ammons. Out of the record. House Bill 5077, Representative Bellock. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Bellock. Do you want to speak on Floor Amendment #1?"

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 5077. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5611, Representative Andrade. Out of the record. House Bill 5… 4559, Representative Chapa LaVia. Out of the record. House Bill 4745, Representative McAuliffe. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5502, Representative McCombie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000118.docx 132  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Third Reading. House Bill 4536, Representative Crespo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5042, Representative D’Amico. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2273, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4892, Representative Davis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5598, Representative Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 10000118.docx 133  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018

"Third Reading. House Bill 4572, Representative Guzzardi. Out of the record. House Bill 4234, Representative Harper. Out of the record. House Bill 5519, Representative Mah. Out of the record. House Bill 1671, Representative Sente. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sente."

"The… I'd like to adopt the Floor Amendment to the Bill and explain it. Okay. The… it was a shell Bill. So this Bill is to make changes to… is to encourage… if a police department purchases a K-9 officer, they need to take care of the K-9 officer. They need to make sure that the… What do I want to say? Sorry. That their vaccinations are up to date and also that they purchase a mechanism that alerts the officer if the car is overheating."

"Lady moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #1 to House Bill 1671. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5519, Representative Mah. Out of the record. House Bill 4268, Representative Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4232, Representative Severin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2717, Representative Welch. Out of the record. House Bill 1443, Representative Willis. Out of the record. House Bill 4848, Representative Swanson. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4811, Representative Zalewski. Out of the record. House Bill 1471, Representative Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Evans on Floor Amendment #2."

"Of course, I would like to adopt Floor Amendment #2; it’s a gut and replace Amendment. Again, as mentioned, this 10000118.docx 135  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 Amendment amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Changes Section 3-3-7 in the following ways: adding knowingly… allowing the understanding that parolees may not always be aware of the legal action that is taking place. Paragraph 13, removing except when the association involves activities related to criminal programs, worship services, volunteering and engaging families from Line 9-11 providing that parolees must seek permission to engage in… with other parolees. And lastly, adding the above plus or some other pro-social activity in which there is no evidence of criminal intent. To line 14-18, given the parolees discretion to act communally as long as activities have no criminal intent. Those are changes in legislation. I'd like to move forward… adopt the Amendment."

"Representative Breen for a question on Floor Amendment #2?"

"The Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"Oh yeah. For sure. Yeah, it would just… just to make sure everything is correct."

"Thank you."

"Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 1471. All in favor say 'aye'; 10000118.docx 136  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018 opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 5519, Representative Mah. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, the House will stand adjourned until Thursday, April 19 at 11 a.m. Leader Currie moves that the House stand adjourned until Thursday, April 19 at 11 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have. And the House will stand adjourned." 10000118.docx 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 100th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 118th Legislative Day 4/18/2018