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Illinois House Floor Debate — May 9, 2024

103rd General Assembly (2023-2024) · Legislative day 102 · Perfunctory Session
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103rd (2023-2024)
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May 9, 2024
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Hollman

"House Perfunctory Session will come to order. Committee Reports. Representative Gabel, Chairperson from the Committee on Rules reports the following committee action taken on May 9, 2024: approved for consideration, referred to Second Reading is House Bill 4476 and House Bill 5008."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by Jody Davis. Mr… Mr. Davis is the minister at Fairfield Church of Christ in Fairfield, Illinois. Mr. Davis is the guest of Representative Severin. How lucky you are, Mr. Davis. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones, and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Davis."

William "Will" Davis (D)

"Good afternoon, everyone. Let us pray. Our most kind and gracious Father in heaven, great is your name above all names and your ways above all ways. The worlds, all that is seen and all that is yet to be divined by humanity, were framed by your word. The ages before us and after us are yours. You, our Lord God, are from everlasting to everlasting. Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, you are God. You indeed are everything, Father, and without you, we would have nothing. Your words tell us that you are not far from each one of us, for in you we live and move and have our being. And that since your creation of the world, your invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made. We thank you for this day that you have opened our eyes up to and for bringing us here safely together. And as we look around this assembled 10300102.docx 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 Body, we thank you for each other. We understand that there is no authority except from you, and the authorities that exist are appointed by you. And as such, we thank you for each of the men and women of this assembled Body who have been elected by the people of Illinois and entrusted with their welfare. We pray, Father, in keeping with your words that this Body may be able to thwart evil as you would see it and to look kindly upon good works. We pray, Father, that every soul will be subject to and not in resistance to our government and its leaders. We pray that peace, honor, and love will reign when there may be political disagreements, not hate and not violence. We pray, Father, that you will be with the men and women of this Body here today, that the people of Illinois may be able to lead quiet and peaceful lives in all godliness and reverence. We know that this is good and acceptable to you, our God, who desires all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge with a truth. O God, our Father, please watch over us all and enable us to look to you when times are good and when times are bad, that we may each reflect on those things far greater than us. To you, Father, be all glory and all honor in the most precious and holy name of our Lord, Jesus Christ, we pray, Amen."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"We will be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative McLaughlin."

McLaughlin - et al

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." 10300102.docx 2 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Natalie A. Manley (D)

Speaker Manley: "Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Barbara Hernandez is recognized to report any excused absences on the Democratic side of the aisle." Hernandez, B.: "Speaker, let the record show that Representatives Burke, Flowers, Huynh, Ladisch Douglass, Tarver, and Omar Williams are excused today."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Leader Keicher is recognized to report any excused absences on the Republican side of the aisle."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"Well, thank you, Madam Speaker. Please let the record reflect that all Republicans are here today to conduct the people's business."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Have all recorded themselves who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. There being 112 Members answering the roll call, a quorum is present. Mr. Clerk, Committee Reports."

Hollman

Clerk Hollman: "Committee Reports. Representative Evans, Chairperson from the Committee on Labor & Commerce reports the following committee action taken on May 8, 2024: do pass Short Debate is Senate Bill 3558; recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment(s) 2 to Senate Bill 2371 and Floor Amendment(s) 1 to Senate Bill 3180. Representative Scherer, Chairperson from the Committee on Elementary & Secondary Education: Administration, Licensing & Charter Schools reports the following committee action taken on May 8, 2024: recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment(s) 1 to Senate Bill 3348. Representative Gonzalez, Chairperson from the Committee on Economic Opportunity & Equity reports the following committee action taken on May 8, 2024: do pass Short Debate is Senate Bill 3235. Representative Stuart, Chairperson from the Committee on Higher Education reports the following 10300102.docx 3 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 committee action taken on May 8, 2024: do pass as amended Short Debate is Senate Bill 3238; recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment(s) 2 to House Bill 4652. Representative Burke, Chairperson from the Committee on Revenue & Finance reports the following committee action taken on May 9, 2024: do pass Short Debate is Senate Bill 2859, Senate Bill 2936, Senate Bill 3209, Senate Bill 3455. Representative Stava- Murray, Chairperson from the Committee on Public Health reports the following committee action taken on May 9, 2024: recommends be adopted is House Resolution 588. Representative Mason, Chairperson from the Committee on Child Care Accessibility & Early Childhood Education reports the following committee action taken on May 9, 2024: recommends be adopted is Floor Amendment(s) 2 to House Bill 5024. Representative Tarver, Chairperson from the Committee on Counties & Townships reports the following committee action taken on May 9, 2024: do pass Short Debate is Senate Bill 1102. Introduction of Resolutions. House Resolution 763, offered by Representative Weber; and House Joint Resolution 72, offered by Representative Hammond, are referred to the Rules Committee."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"On House Bills on the Order of Second Reading, page 12, we find Senate Bill 2743, Representative Ann Williams. Representative Ann Williams. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2803, Representative Slaughter. Representative Slaughter. Out of the record. On page 10, Senate Bill 317. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 317, a Bill for an Act concerning revenue. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. Amendment #1 was 10300102.docx 4 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 adopted in committee. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 2879. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 2879, a Bill for an Act concerning local government. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Third Reading. On page 13, Senate Bill 2918, Representative Smith. Representative Smith. Out of the record. Page 15, we have Senate Bill 3448, Representative Kifowit. Out of the record. Senate Bill 3606, Representative Mussman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 3606, a Bill for an Act concerning education. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 3687, Leader Hoffman. Out of the record. Senate Bill 3661, Representative Mussman. Please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 3661, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 3679, Leader Buckner. Leader Buckner. Please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 3679, a Bill for an Act concerning local government. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Senate Bill… Third Reading. Senate Bill 3691. Please read the Bill." 10300102.docx 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Bolin

"Senate Bill 3691, a Bill for an Act concerning aging. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 3763, Representative Mussman. Please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 3763, a Bill for an Act concerning health. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 3775, Representative Moylan. Representative Moylan. Out of the record. Senate Bill 3779, Representative West. Please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 3779, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Second Reading of this Senate Bill. No Committee Amendments. No Floor Amendments. No Motions are filed."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Third Reading. Senate Bill 3807, Representative Ammons. Representative Ammons. Out of the record. The Chair recognizes Representative Katz Muhl. For what reason do you seek recognition?"

Tracy Katz Muhl (D)

"Point of personal privilege."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Please proceed."

Tracy Katz Muhl (D)

"Thank you. I hope the Legislators had a chance today to peek a peek at the exhibitions in the lobby for Students for Innovation: Advocacy Day. I'm so excited to share that students from one of my districts, Prospect Heights District 23, MacArthur Middle School are here. Can I ask them to hop up in the balcony? There they are. I want to congratulate Erika, Maggie, Lily, and Eeva on their terrific projects on behalf of myself and Representative Canty. Please welcome them to the General Assembly." 10300102.docx 6 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Welcome to Springfield. Representative Fritts, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Bradley Fritts (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. A point of personal privilege."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Please proceed."

Bradley Fritts (R)

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like to welcome three Pages for the day that I have. They're all coming from Northbrook School in Mendota, Illinois. They are eighth graders there. My first one is Anahi Perez. Anahi, for fun, likes to shop and hang out with family and friends, and she aspires to be a lawyer, which we're going to try to talk her out of. Alexis Nave is very active in sports. She's learning Norwegian, and she aspires to be a bioengineer. And last but not least is Abbie Botts. She plays the trumpet and is in scholastic bowl. She aspires to be a speech pathologist. And with them is their teacher, Ms. Henkel. This is the second year in a row now that she's brought students down to watch and learn about the process. So, thank you for your dedication there. And if we could all… give them all a warm Springfield welcome, I would appreciate it. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Welcome to Springfield. Representative Hanson, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Matt Hanson (D)

"Point of personal privilege."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Please proceed."

Matt Hanson (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd just ask all of our colleagues here in the House to give a warm Springfield welcome to my chief of staff from the district, Mario Keane. This is Mario's first visit on the House side. We know that our staff and our team back home not only take care of us, but they take care of our constituents. So, thank you for all 10300102.docx 7 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 you do for me and the 83rd District, Mario, and welcome to Springfield."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Welcome to Springfield. Leader Stephens, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

Brad Stephens (R)

"Point of personal privilege, please."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Please proceed."

Brad Stephens (R)

"I have to me… with me here to my left the 2042 candidate for Governor, my son, Joseph. Please, everybody, give him a warm welcome."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Welcome to Springfield, Joseph. We're moving on to Senate Bills on Third Reading on page 3. Senate Bill 1, Representative Canty. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 1, a Bill for an Act concerning education. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Canty."

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise today to present Senate Bill 1, which was approved unanimously by both the Senate and by the House Child Care Accessibility & Early Childhood Education Committee. Senate Bill 1 launches the new Department of Early Childhood. This department serves one major purpose, promoting a high standard of child care, early childhood education, and other support systems for Illinois children, families, and providers. Illinois has made progress in advancing access to early childhood supports, but we can make early childhood simpler, better, and fairer. Most early childhood services are currently split across three agencies, ISBE, DHS, and DCFS, making the system overly complex for both families and providers. With this Bill, I am proposing to unite early childhood services into one new agency, the 10300102.docx 8 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 Department of Early Childhood, in order to make it easier for families to access services. Specifically, this Bill launches the Department of Early Childhood on July 1, 2024. It outlines that all early childhood programs will stay in their current agencies for the next two fiscal years, being Fiscal Year '25 and Fiscal Year '26. And it moves early childhood programs, such as the Child Care Assistance Program, early intervention, home visiting, Early Childhood Block Grants, including Preschool for All and the Preschool for All Expansion, and day care licensing into the new Department of Early Childhood on July 1, 2026, which is the start of Fiscal Year 2027. This legislation does not make any changes to existing early childhood programs. For the next two years, the transition team will be working with the agencies, families, and providers to review the programs and make sure that on July 1, 2026, we are fully prepared to have them administered through the Department of Early Childhood with no interruption to services, jobs, or funding. As I noted earlier, this passed out of the Senate unanimously. It passed out of our Child Care Accessibility & Early Childhood Education Committee unanimously. It will help families, providers, and the state, and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Windhorst."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates that she will."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you. Representative, appreciate your explanation. There are three state entities that are coming together to help form this new department. What is… what are… what are those entities?" 10300102.docx 9 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"That would be ISBE, the State Board of Education; DHS, Department of Human Services; and DCFS, Department of Child and Family Services."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And as it relates to the employees that are affected by this change, what will occur with those employees? Will they be transitioned into this new department, or will some of them remain in their current department?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, they will have the opportunity to move over. The programs will move and… for DHS and DCFS workers, the workers and the positions will move. For ISBE, only the positions will move, I… and it's roughly 20 at… with ISBE."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And those State Board of Education employees that do not move but are involved in these programs, will there be some effort to create a pathway for them to move in the future or will there be new hiring? How will that be addressed?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"It… it's slightly different for the ISBE workers. They're not subject to the Personnel Code in the same way, but there will be opportunities. Nobody will lose their job and miss a paycheck as a result of starting this new agency."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Do we have yet a cost estimate on what this will mean to the state's budget?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, there is a line item in the budget of $13 million to do the transition work this year. And you will receive, in future years as the agency stands up, they will have their own budget presented at the appropriate committee."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And I believe our side's going to have some more questions for you, but just an overview from, you know, 10 thousand feet. What do we hope to accomplish with this new department?" 10300102.docx 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"We want to make a better Illinois. The way that we do our federal funding, our state funding for families, early education providers, et cetera, it is scattershot across these three agencies. We see duplication of efforts, duplication of forms, and that means that we, in some cases, are not getting as many dollars into the programs that we rightfully need. And so, by creating this new agency, housing all of these programs in one place, we can create more efficiency and transparency and ease of access for families and providers."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Wilhour."

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates that she will."

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"Thank you. Just to piggyback on a little bit of what Leader Windhorst was saying there. I understand that we've got an appropriation for this year and possibly next year. It's like $14 million or something like that. Do we have an estimate on what this new bureaucracy is going to cost the State of Illinois year to year moving forward after… after that?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, as I mentioned to… to your colleague, we are going through a two-year transition process. And so, part of that process is reviewing the programs and how we want them to operate to be more efficient. And at the appropriate time, we will see a budget from this new agency."

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"I… I appreciate that. So, just so everybody understands, we're… we're going through a two-year process here where… where we are going to figure out what this is going to cost 10300102.docx 11 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 and figure out exactly how they're going to do their jobs, right?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Yes."

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"Okay. Now, what… what would be wrong with going through… starting in this process, going through this two-year process, to figure out what these people are going to do and to figure out what it's going to cost and then, if appropriate, when we get this stuff figured out, create this agency?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"I'm sorry, I'm not sure I follow the…"

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"Why are we creating the… well, why are we creating the agency right now when we don't know exactly what we're going to… they're going to do, we don't know exactly what it's going to cost, or don't even really have any idea what it's going to cost? And, you know, we're doing this two-year process on here. Why wouldn't we do the two-year process and then, at the end of that two years as we've gone through all of this stuff, then make the determination on how best to move forward and create this… create this? We're creating an entire government agency here, guys. This is a… this is a cabinet- level government agency, and we have no idea what it's going to cost, and I just want… want a little bit of insight on that. Why… why not wait after the two years?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, back in 2021, this Legislature saw fit to create a task force that did a ton of work, and their recommendation was that we create this new agency. And in order for us to figure out exactly what it will cost, we need to know exactly what we're going to put in there and the way it will look. And so, we're having a transition team that's made up of folks 10300102.docx 12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 from all over the State of Illinois, the agencies, the providers, the families, the educators, et cetera, in addition to organizations, that will go through and make sure that what we are doing in implementation is what we need for the state. And so, I don't want us to be obligated to present a budget that does not yet exist."

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"Is there anything that would prohibit us from doing this work without… doing the exact same thing without creating the agency?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"I… I think it would be inappropriate for us to do that work without having the authority for the new agency."

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"Okay. I'll… I'll go to the Bill. What we're doing here, guys, is…"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"To the Bill."

Blaine Wilhour (R)

"…is we're creating a massive bureaucracy. We have no idea what it's going to cost the taxpayers. We're not exactly sure what we're going to do. Apparently, we have to pass this Bill to be able to see what it actually does at… at the end of the day. And, you know, I just think that it is inappropriate to create an entire government bureaucracy without knowing those important things, especially when there's nothing keeping this from happening right now. I don't think anywhere in the history of government, especially in the history of government in the State of Illinois, have we created bureaucracy, especially massive bureaucracy, and it worked out well for the taxpayers at the end of the day. This may or may not be a good idea, but at the end of the day, we don't need to create an entire cabinet-level organization before knowing exactly what it's… what it's going to do. So, 10300102.docx 13 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 for those reasons, I will be a 'no' vote. And I would encourage everybody to look very hard at this and consider the history of the State of Illinois. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Keicher."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates she will."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"Excellent. So, a couple things, and I… I don't know that we have the answer yet, Representative. So, I did have some district questions that came up when we were talking about this. First, thank you for taking some of this responsibility away from DCFS. I think it’s already an overburdened organization that this… this will help them be more efficient at taking care of kids that are in more trouble. I had questions concerning the governance of in-home care facilities that are looking after kids that are currently regulated by the state, and then also distribution of community grants that occur for local day care providers. Is there any governance over that or any changes over that that… that is a part of this or it's premature to be able to answer that?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"That is addressed in the Bill. This gives the authorization to start the transition, but the transition won't actually happen until Fiscal Year 2027."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"Okay. So, there's no… if I understand what you're telling me, there's no alterations other than what department governs those in-home child care facilities, correct?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, nothing will move right now. And as I said, the transition team will work together to determine how the programs need to look when they do transition over, but none 10300102.docx 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 of that will happen later. And when it does happen, there will be no interruption to services, jobs, paychecks, et cetera."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"Okay. And… and is there anything in this Bill that speaks to the granting that occurs to local community-based day care providers?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Can you just help me out a little bit? I'm… I want to make sure I understand what grant you're speaking to, specifically."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"So, we have some community day care coordinating organizations throughout this state that help place and fund local day cares in the home, facilities, and what have you. And some of those state grants are passed through these organizations. I just want to make sure there's no disruption in what… what occurs with that today."

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"There… no, there would be none."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"Okay."

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"There… this Bill makes no programmatic changes."

Jeff Keicher (R)

"Okay. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Reick."

Steven Reick (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates she will."

Steven Reick (R)

"Representative, I'm listening to this and, as you know, one of my major issues is, of course, day care licensing, which the previous speaker did hit on. Am I to understand that the day care licensing function will remain in DCFS until this agency is fully functional in, what'd you say, Fiscal Year '26?" 10300102.docx 15 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Fiscal Year 2027. So, July 1, 2026, it will transition over."

Steven Reick (R)

"Okay. So, nothing is changing with regard to responsibility for day care licensing at this point?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Correct. This Bill makes no programmatic changes at this time."

Steven Reick (R)

"Okay. What will the agents… I guess my point is, how much has been appropriated at this point for the establishment of this… let's assume that this passes, and the Governor signs it, and it's in… there's money in this year's budget. How much is it?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"I believe it's $13 million."

Steven Reick (R)

"Okay. And that is specifically for the purpose of determining who goes where and what with regard to programs and things like that? We're just in the transition phase here? There's no more appropriation coming from… say the DCFS budget is not allocating over to this thing, and DHS isn't allocating, and ISBE isn't allocating. This is a new appropriation directly out of General Revenue. Is that correct?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Correct."

Steven Reick (R)

"The task force that put this whole thing together, did it… is that where this $13 million estimate came from?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"The… the Governor's team actually put that estimate together…"

Steven Reick (R)

"Okay. And…"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"…and put it in his introduced budget."

Steven Reick (R)

"Okay. And that money is going to be spent precisely how?" 10300102.docx 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Okay. So, it's roughly $13.1 million, which includes resources for the following functions: staffing and operation support, so 30 full-time employees and Social Security, operation costs, such as facilities, computers, licensing and services; evaluating and reconciling the multiple state agency procedures, processes, systems, such as internal and external data and learning infrastructure, for example, you know, ensuring that we're collecting the right data in the easiest way and in which way we can learn how well the system is functioning; technology assessments and general program workflow mapping. It also includes: financial modeling to support program specific redesign efforts; engaging parents, families, providers, educators, and other stakeholders in systems design for the new agency; and professional development and staff training to support current and incoming staff and change management effort. And as a former change manager, I can tell you that's critically important."

Steven Reick (R)

"Is… okay. Obviously, we… we're looking at this prospectively. This 13 million is basically a sunk cost to determine the validity and the… and the efficacy of this… of this program."

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Yes, Sir."

Steven Reick (R)

"Is there anything in the Bill that says once we get to the end of this process of determining all these wonderful things that it's supposed to do, and they look at each other across the table and say this just ain't going to work, is there any… is there any sunset or any provision in the Bill for us to go back to status quo ante and chalk it up to experience?" 10300102.docx 17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"It… it is going to work. And…"

Steven Reick (R)

"Well, okay. I…"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"But there… there is not… there is not a sunset. It is going to work. We have a mandate to make this work."

Steven Reick (R)

"We have a mandate to make it work, but…"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"We owe it to the people of Illinois."

Steven Reick (R)

"…as my… as my friend from Beecher City basically just said, we are taking a leap in the dark here. Now, I've been screaming and yelling about getting licensing, day care licensing, out of DCFS. To my… to my personal… personal interest in this whole thing, I hope it does work. But I would also like to see something that gives us the ability as a General Assembly to put the… to put the brakes on this project, on this agency. If we look at it and say this is going to cost multiple amounts of money more than the… than the things that we're bringing in that we're currently paying for in these various other agencies. I'm not against the idea of taking this and turning it into something that can work for early childhood, not a problem. The problem I have with it is that like any… no government agency exists to put itself out of business. Every government agency exists to expand its authority and expand its budget. As H.L. Mencken said, 'The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed and hands clamoring for safety by creating a series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.' So, I really want to be careful about going forward with this and not having a way to put the brakes on it if it isn't going to work or if it's going to cost quantum number… quantum amounts more than what 10300102.docx 18 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 we're paying for now in these various agencies. Are you willing to… are you willing to consider that?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, I… I do want to… I do want to reiterate, we have a two-year transition period. And this is coming out of the recommendation of a two-year study that was… was conducted at the behest of this Body. And we're not the first state to do this. There are around six, seven, eight states that have stood up agencies like this before us. And so, we are learning from their mistakes. But because we are Illinois, we're going to try and do them even better. So, I'm not… I'm not entirely sure that I'm following your question. But this will work. It is not… we're not going into it blind. It's not a new idea, and I think you'll agree it's probably a needed idea."

Steven Reick (R)

"I'm not disagreeing that it might be needed, but I'm also very skeptical about our ability to do it for less money than we're already spending. Thank you very much."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Ugaste."

Dan Ugaste (R)

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Will the… or, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates that she will."

Dan Ugaste (R)

"Thank you. Good afternoon, Representative. Just two quick things came to mind while listening to the discussion and looking at our analysis. I'm noticing, under procurement, it says that the procurement process shall be conducted in a manner substantially in accordance with the requirements of the article dealing with ethics, the Procurement Board… Policy Board, Commission on Equity and Inclusion, contract files, and then a whole list of others. Why do we have the 10300102.docx 19 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 word 'substantially' instead of just 'in accordance with' all these laws we currently have in place?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Because of the short transition period, it's two years. And so, in order to ensure that they have the ability to move quickly within there, we're looking for a temporary reprieve from… from certain parts of the Procurement Code. But even with this limited exception, the new agency will include procurement professionals directing procurement substantially in accordance with many of the Procurement Code requirements, including those related to ethics, the Commission on Equity and Inclusion targets and review, Procurement Policy Board review, contract filing provisions, disclosure and prevailing wage expectations, and cybersecurity provisions. So, they will… they will be doing those things. We just need a temporary ability to move quicker than our process allows."

Dan Ugaste (R)

"Okay. And the other question I have deals with the whole financing issue. I don't want to get into great detail with you about it. Is there anything, though, 'cause I didn't see it, within the Act that would say, whatever we're going to spend on this new agency, seeing as how really the duties are coming from all the other agencies that are currently out there, their budgets will be decreased by that amount or the number of employees or the like?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"I… I anticipate that we will see the new agency with the program shifted over reflected across all four of the budgets when it is ultimately stood up."

Dan Ugaste (R)

"But there's nothing within the law that dictates that's going to happen?" 10300102.docx 20 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, this law only allows us the authority to stand things up. There will be legislation that comes during the course of the next two years."

Dan Ugaste (R)

"Okay. Thank you. To the Bill. I… I really think the idea…"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"To the Bill."

Dan Ugaste (R)

"…I like the idea. I really do. I think it's a good idea. I think, you know, it's something we should work with. I just think we should have the guardrails in place still, and that we need to have these guardrails in place in order to do this properly. So, while I would like to support this without leaving the, especially the procurement process in place in line with our existing laws and making some exceptions for it, I… I won't be supporting, unfortunately. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Guzzardi."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates she will."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"Thank you for bringing this Bill forth today, Representative. First of all, is there… does your Bill contemplate imaginary hobgoblins of any kind?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"It does not, no."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"Okay. They were brought up earlier in debate, so I just wanted to see if that was actually included in your legislation. Can you just tell us, why is… these functions are currently being performed by other state agencies. Why would it be important for them to be put into an agency specifically focused on early childhood?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"A lot of it has to do with what I'll call the spaghetti bowl of funding and the way that we do that across the state. 10300102.docx 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 And what that creates is a lot of duplicative effort for families, for providers, for educators, as they're filling out one form that may… for one agency, DHS, call it, and then they're having to go to ISBE for something that is substantially similar but has a slightly different form or a slightly different set of requirements. We need to make things easier for everybody to provide for our youngest people across the state."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"So, you think that by streamlining this process, it'll make it easier for families to access the programs that we already have existing in place?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"I do, and I think it will also make it easier for us, as a state, to manage those things in a transparent fashion."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"Is it possible that this might result in cost savings to the state in the future?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"It's entirely possible."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"Because we might be kind of performing duplicative services across multiple agencies that aren't coordinating well today."

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Correct. And it's also possible that we may make better use of federal funds that we receive that support these programs."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"Thank you. To the Bill. This…"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"To the Bill."

Will Guzzardi (D)

"I want to commend the Governor for his leadership in supporting our youngest learners. This early childhood investment is… we talk a lot about solving the root causes, addressing the root causes of the challenges facing our state around educational outcomes, around health outcomes, around 10300102.docx 22 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 public safety outcomes. And getting to our earliest learners and making sure that they are provided with quality education from birth is the best investment, I believe, we can make in the root causes of the challenges that face our state. So, I… I really appreciate you bringing this Bill, and I urge an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Stuart."

Katie Stuart (D)

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates she will."

Katie Stuart (D)

"Thank you. I want to thank you, Representative, for bringing this bill forward. I… I am very supportive of this Bill. The description of the spaghetti bowl could not be more accurate for how difficult it is to navigate these things. And the Representative who spoke before me brought up the point about making sure that we are doing whatever we can for the youngest because that is really addressing all these root causes of discrepancies and differences in people's outcomes when they grow up. But to that point, I just have a question. And… and you mentioned navigating ISBE and other things and federal funding. And so, I just… I want to make sure that we're not going to do anything that will impact those federal dollars when we're talking about special education that is covered under ISBE. And I… I don't know that I have a specific question, and I know that there will be follow up to this Bill. I think that the state would probably need to get some kind of a waiver or change from the feds, and I just… I'm assuming that we… we will be able to do that. I just want to make sure that we're going to be paying attention to that in the future." 10300102.docx 23 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, there is a working group, advisory group, that is working specifically to that issue. I share your concern there, and we will make sure that it is addressed to your satisfaction."

Katie Stuart (D)

"Thank you so much."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Ammons."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Indicates she will."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Thank you. First, Representative Canty, thank you so much for bringing this very important piece of legislation. I just wanted to ask you to give us a little bit of a timeline. If this Bill passes and the Governor signs it, what's the prospective of this rolling out and what is that going to look like?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, if I understand you correctly, you're asking me for the timeline of what happens after we pass this. And so, the department would launch on July 1, 2024. The programs would be in their existing homes for the next two fiscal years. And then on July 1, 2026, the department, the new department, would be officially stood up and the programs would be transitioned over at that time."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Thank you. To the Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"To the Bill."

Carol Ammons (D)

"First and foremost, we thank Representative Canty for all of her hard work on this process. It's not easy to stand up an agency that doesn't exist but needs to. And so, I believe that she's done an amazing job really laying out, legislatively, the timeline to implement such a thing. And I would love to remind the Members of the chamber that we 10300102.docx 24 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 passed, in 2021, a comprehensive education package that went from early childhood to workforce development. And what we learned today in Higher Education Committee is if we don't support those children at the early stages, early childhood development as well as K-12, then they're not prepared to go to our own universities in the State of Illinois. And we see a huge number of… of students that are having to go to other locations for different reasons. But what we want to do is to give them a good start, and that starts at early childhood. And so, we thank you for working with the Governor's Office. I thank him for his vision for this particular institution to be stood up. It's going to be hard and difficult, and there will be changes and other Bills that will come behind this. But to stand up an agency that really focuses on early childhood… we saw in the data when we did 2170, we saw in that data that our children are going to kindergarten not prepared with basic reading skills, and we have to address that if we want to successfully address all of the other parts of the education line to workforce development. So, thank you, Representative Canty, for the work that you've done on this initiative."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"And our last speaker, Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates she will." Davis, W.: "Representative, as I listen to some of the comments that were made, particularly from the other side of the aisle there, would you agree that part of this effort also creates efficiencies in government as well?" 10300102.docx 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"I would. Yes, Sir." Davis, W.: "We know that that is one thing that we like, transparency and efficiency. So, we anticipate that out of this effort, there will be some efficiency. I know when I work on behalf of my day care centers and I'm trying to make those calls, if I have the opportunity to make one call to one place to get the answer versus having to be bounced around and call different agencies, I think we would all agree that that is probably better for us. Is it not?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"I would agree." Davis, W.: "Particularly as it relates to, you know, when you're trying to get an answer on behalf of a provider that's struggling to make sure that their paperwork was received, that the paperwork was processed appropriately, so that day cares who are doing phenomenal work in our communities receive a parent, and take in that parent, and start providing the care, and then they go through the paperwork process, we've seen, unfortunately, sometimes where after 30 days of providing the care, nobody knows where the paperwork was, and that agency may have then provided free care for individuals because no one knows where the paperwork is. So, I hope that those of you on the other side of the aisle that are contemplating whether or not to vote or not vote for this that you'll appreciate that sometimes moving things under one roof may actually be a good thing for us to be able to do. And this is one of those situations where I think it is. I think some of you sit on the appropriations committee for K- 12 and we had a very robust discussion about this new agency, what it would be doing, at least in its inception, and then 10300102.docx 26 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 ultimately where it's going to be left and the idea of moving the pieces from other agencies and departments under one roof to make sure we are working efficiently, that we are streamlining those processes so that, we, as Legislators, when we make those calls, we can get the answers for our constituents as quickly as possible. So, hopefully, you will vote for this and allow us to move this process forward. I even anticipate… actually, to one of the previous questions… I'm sorry, Madam Chair. To the Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"To the Bill." Davis, W.: "I anticipate that we may even see savings in this. Now, we're spending money in three different, four different agencies. So, as we start to consolidate this, you know, you'll… you'll have one director that, obviously, will be a state employee. And that director will have, you know, some other people underneath them working to make this happen. But, again, when you're spending money in four different places and you have the opportunity to bring it possibly under one ruth… one roof, excuse me, and spend it in that one way, I think there are some good things that come out of this. And I, too, admittedly, have been a very vocal critic of what the Governor's Office has been proposing. But as I've taken the time to learn, to listen, to ask questions to get the answers that I need, I have agreed to sign on as a chief cosponsor of this Bill and encourage everyone in this chamber to support its inception. Let's work collaboratively to make sure that it does everything we want it to do and that it works appropriately. We had those same kind of challenges when we created the Department of Juvenile Justice. And we have worked 10300102.docx 27 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 to make sure that, as we separate young people from adults in our correction's system, that we're doing everything that we can through that system to make sure youth are taken care of. This is just one of those opportunities for us to get it right the first time and not have to try to fix it once it's already down the road. Thank you very much, Madam Chair."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes, for the really last speaker, Representative Weaver."

Travis Weaver (R)

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Does the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She will."

Travis Weaver (R)

"I appreciate the prior speaker's point about potential cost savings. Has there been any commentary from DHS, DCFS, ISBE about potentially shrinking because they'll be losing staff to this other agency and potential cost savings that they may generate? Have they said anything about their capacity to be a smaller agency because of this?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, as I… as I had mentioned earlier, the positions and the programs are moving over to the new agency. So, it's not so much a loss to them as it is an opportunity for them to stay focused on their core mission and allow this new agency to stay focused on its core mission."

Travis Weaver (R)

"So, proportionately to however much this is appropriated in the future, would we expect DCFS to be appropriated the same amount less because the money's just moving from one bucket to another?"

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"So, we're a little ways away, and I would need to see their budgets. I want to be very careful in how I answer that."

Travis Weaver (R)

"So, TBD?" 10300102.docx 28 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Right. I mean, I guess what I'm… the programs and the people will move to the new agency. I anticipate that we will see adjustments in budgets as they come forward."

Travis Weaver (R)

"Okay, very good. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Canty to close."

Mary Beth Canty (D)

"Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I very much appreciate the discussion that we have had on this Bill. As a mom, as someone who sent two of her children through day care who has struggled with systems and processes in this state, I… I really appreciate the opportunity to do something better, fairer, more efficient for the people. I believe that is what we were sent here to do. I encourage an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 1 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 93 voting in 'favor', 18 voting 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. The Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Didech. For what reason do you seek recognition?"

Daniel Didech (D)

"Point of personal privilege."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Please proceed."

Daniel Didech (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. We have some very exciting guests in the gallery today from the Mano a Mano Family Resource Center. Please give them a very warm welcome here to Springfield." 10300102.docx 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Natalie A. Manley (D)

Speaker Manley: "Welcome to Springfield. Senate Bill 56, Representative Morgan. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 56, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Morgan."

Bob Morgan (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 56 is a fairly simple Bill that cleans up language for a Bill that we passed a few years ago that addresses those between the ages of 65 and 75 who are looking to participate in a Medicare supplemental plan. What we identified is that there is a gap when an insurance company offshores or outsources to an ancillary service company, to an affiliate, and making sure that an individual still has the opportunity to have an open enrollment period. So, this just extends the language to an affiliate. There is no opposition, and I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Windhorst."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"He will."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you. Representative, I believe you covered this, but just for clarification, why is this necessary?"

Bob Morgan (D)

"We passed this legislation a few years ago to provide those who are between 65 and 75 the… the clear ability to have an open enrollment period for a Medicare supplemental insurance program. What we didn't anticipate is that sometimes insurance companies offshore that responsibility to an affiliate. And what happens is the… the way the language is written right now, it does not capture an affiliate. That 10300102.docx 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 is all this Bill does. Again, it really is consistent and comports with the intent of the initial Bill a few years ago."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And it's, for that reason, very narrow in its scope."

Bob Morgan (D)

"Correct."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Yeah. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Morgan to close."

Bob Morgan (D)

"I'd urge an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 56 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting in 'favor', 0 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 86, Representative Stuart. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 86, a Bill for an Act concerning education. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Stuart."

Katie Stuart (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. This is pretty simple. We are just adding to the Know Before You Owe Act, which was a consumer protection Bill in terms of student loans. And what this will do is provide protections for cosigners onto those loans as well."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 86 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting in 'favor', 0 10300102.docx 31 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 voting 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. The Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 275, Leader Spain. Leader Spain. Out of the record. Senate Bill 381, Representative Walsh. Mr. Clerk… out of the record. Senate Bill 691, Representative Ammons. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 691, a Bill for an Act concerning local government. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Ammons."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Sorry, Madam Speaker. Thank you. If you just give me just 30 seconds to get to that Senate Bill. She got it for me. Thank you. Thank you. Senate Bill 691 expands which regional planning commissions may purchase property under a 20-year installment contract. And currently, only joint planning commissions along the Illinois River may use this method, and we wanted to just expand it to all regional planning commissions so that they can enter into agreements across regions. That's all the Bill does, and thank you, Madam Chair."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Representative Halbrook."

Brad Halbrook (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Question of the Sponsor. Just to…"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Please proceed."

Brad Halbrook (R)

"Yeah, thank you. And just to recap in what we talked about in committee for Members that may be concerned. This does not institute a new taxing district, does not institute any way to levy additional funds or any fees or additional dollars. Is that all correct?"

Carol Ammons (D)

"That's correct." 10300102.docx 32 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Brad Halbrook (R)

"All right. So, you're just going to… and this is… this would be statewide to allow these different regionals… regional operations to come together in different forms. Just explain that to us just a little bit further."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Yeah, it… it allows them to come together, as we said earlier. Only those commissions that are along the Illinois River can currently do this, but we want to make it available to the other regional planning commissions so that they can enter into contracts around things like affordable housing and other developments that they want to do. It doesn't change. It doesn't add a tax. It doesn't address any of that."

Brad Halbrook (R)

"Just kind of a realignment among different counties if they chose to do that?"

Carol Ammons (D)

"That's… that's all it does."

Brad Halbrook (R)

"Yeah. Thank you. No further questions."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Ammons to close."

Carol Ammons (D)

"Thank you, Madam Chair. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 691 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting in 'favor', 0 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. The Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 773, Representative Croke. Representative Croke. Out of the record. Senate Bill 856, Representative Norma Hernandez. Take your time. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 856, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Third Reading of this Senate Bill." 10300102.docx 33 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Hernandez." Hernandez, N.: "Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to talk about Senate Bill 856. Last year, the Department of Children and Family Services suffered a tragic loss when an employee was murdered during a house call. But both before and since, DCFS employees have been concerned about their safety. Nobody should be subjected to the threat of… of death at work, certainly not these dedicated professionals who devote their lives to keeping Illinois vulnerable… Illinois' children vulnerable and safe. That is why I'm here today to encourage the passage of Senate Bill 856, which would allow employees of the Department of Children and Family Services to use their work address instead of their home address on their identification cards, which would protect their privacy and stop hostile parties from potentially gaining access to sensitive information. Judicial officers and peace officers are already allowed this measure for their safety. This Bill will allow the following titles to be eligible for the provision as well: child protection specialist trainee, child protection specialist, child protection advanced specialist, child welfare advanced specialist as well. This Bill, if… if passed, would keep DCFS employees safer while they work to keep kids safer. This Bill is already supported by the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees and the Department of Children and Family Services. And there are no oppositions to this Bill. I encourage a 'yes' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall'… instead, the Chair recognizes Leader McCombie."

Tony M. McCombie (R)

"Thank you, Speaker. Just to the Bill. I want to thank…" 10300102.docx 34 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"To the Bill."

Tony M. McCombie (R)

"…the Sponsor for bringing this forward. As many in the chamber are aware of the… the numerous times I've mentioned Pam Knight, and now Deidre Silas, on this floor, I just want to thank you for this and really do appreciate you bringing this Bill forward. Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

Speaker Manley: "The question is, 'Shall'… Representative Hernandez to close." Hernandez, N.: "Thank you so much, Leader McCombie. I would be happy to continue working to make sure that we create a better system for everyone. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 856 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting's open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mayfield. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting in 'favor', 0 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. The Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 857, Representative Katz Muhl. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 857, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Katz Muhl."

Tracy Katz Muhl (D)

"This Bill was an initiative of the Illinois Department of Human Services Office of the Inspector General, which passed unanimously in the Senate. The Bill allows their OIG to look more systematically at facilities and agencies providing mental health or developmental disability services where there are repeat findings of abuse or neglect and to 10300102.docx 35 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 clean up the reporting requirements for obstruction of investigations. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Leader Windhorst."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates that she will."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you. What are we hoping to accomplish with this Bill?"

Tracy Katz Muhl (D)

"In the event that there are investigations that bear similarities, rather than dealing with it on a case-by-case basis, to have direct authority to connect all the dots and remedy systems systematically."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And current law does not allow that to happen or at least needs to be clarified?"

Tracy Katz Muhl (D)

"That is the feeling of the Office Inspector General, and we want to make it as straightforward as possible for them."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And some of the issues that they're looking at, including physical abuse, sexual abuse, financial exploitation, if those are discovered in their investigation, are they allowed to make referrals to criminal authorities, if that's appropriate?"

Tracy Katz Muhl (D)

"I would have to check with the Inspector General. My belief is, yes, but they would be the experts on this."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Katz Muhl to close."

Tracy Katz Muhl (D)

"Thank you, and I encourage an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 857 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who 10300102.docx 36 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 112 voting in 'favor', 0 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2285, Representative Olickal. Representative Olickal. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2573, Representative Morris. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 2573, a Bill for an Act concerning regulation. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Morris."

Yolonda Morris (D)

"Thank you, Madam Chair. Senate Bill 2573 is a medication Bill that allow patients dealing with alopecia, chemotherapy, or any type of hair loss to be able to receive one wig every 12 months. And I ask for an 'aye' vote. This Bill did pass out the Senate."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Windhorst."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"She indicates she will."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you. This would have… place an insurance mandate for coverage. Is that accurate?"

Yolonda Morris (D)

"Correct."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And it appears that the Illinois Life and Health Insurance Council is neutral on the Bill, as it's… as it passed the Senate?"

Yolonda Morris (D)

"Yes."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And it also appears to pass the Senate unanimously and unanimously out of committee. Is that accurate?"

Yolonda Morris (D)

"Yes."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And why do you feel this change in law is necessary?" 10300102.docx 37 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Yolonda Morris (D)

"I… I feel it's necessary because it will… it will give women of empowerment to feel better about theyselves knowing that they can get a hair piece. And wigs are expensive."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Hoffman."

Jay Hoffman (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Just a quick question. Representative, I know you've worked this extremely hard. Do you know how many cosponsors you have on this Bill?"

Yolonda Morris (D)

"Seventy-nine."

Jay Hoffman (D)

"Seventy-nine, yeah. I would just like to congratulate you on your hard work, and you got great piece of legislation. I don't believe I'm a cosponsor, but I'd like to be added to be #80. So, thank you very much."

Yolonda Morris (D)

"Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Representative Morris to close."

Yolonda Morris (D)

"I… I ask for an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2573 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 111 voting in 'favor', 0 'opposed', and 0 voting 'present'. The Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 2601, Representative Rashid. Representative Rashid. Out of the record. Senate Bill 2626, Representative Buckner. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Bolin

"Senate Bill 2626, a Bill for an Act concerning State government. Third Reading of this Senate Bill."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Leader Buckner." 10300102.docx 38 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Kam Buckner (D)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Senate Bill 2626 amends the Criminal Identification Act to allow individuals who complete treatment programs and court-based diversion programs, or specialty courts, a chance for early expungement of their records. Under this Bill, a petition for expungement may be prefiled 61 days before the case is dismissed. The court must grant expungement if the petitioner meets all the requirements that are under the law. I'm happy to answer any questions."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Chair recognizes Leader Windhorst."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you, Madam Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"He indicates he will."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you. Leader Buckner, this Bill does not change what's eligible for expungement. Is that correct?"

Kam Buckner (D)

"That's right."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Does not make that change?"

Kam Buckner (D)

"That's right. There is no change in the… in what the eligible criteria for expungement."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Instead of waiting for 61 days after the end of the term of probation or what has brought the person to specialty courts, it moves it to 61 days before with the granting at the end of the probationary period."

Kam Buckner (D)

"That's right because currently they have to wait for those for 61 days afterwards. And so, it just moves it to the front end when they're, you know, in the process of having those things completed."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"And what do we hope will be accomplished by making that change?" 10300102.docx 39 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024

Kam Buckner (D)

"Yeah, I mean, I think when we talk about, you know, making sure that the process is streamlined and folks, when they are done, you know, serving their debt, have the ability to, you know, to… to be a part of society and to reduce recidivism and all of those things that are necessary with these programs, we're hoping that having those 61 days on the front end will lead to better outcomes in that space."

Patrick Windhorst (R)

"Thank you."

Kam Buckner (D)

"Thank you."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Leader Buckner to close."

Kam Buckner (D)

"I urge an 'aye' vote."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"The question is, 'Shall Senate Bill 2626 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; opposed vote 'nay'. And the voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there 111 voting in 'favor', 0 'opposed', 0 voting 'present'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

Bolin

"Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 759, offered by Speaker Welch. House Resolution 760, offered by Representative Niemerg. House Resolution 761, offered by Representative Spain. House Resolution 762, offered by Representative Tarver. House Resolution 764, offered by Representative Mah. House Resolution 765, offered by Representative Fritts. And House Resolution 766, offered by Representative Norma Hernandez."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Leader Gabel moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In 10300102.docx 40 STATE OF ILLINOIS 103rd GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 102nd Legislative Day 5/9/2024 the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, please read the Adjournment Resolution."

Bolin

"Senate Joint Resolution #62, offered by Leader Gabel. RESOLVED, BY THE SENATE OF THE ONE HUNDRED THIRD GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES CONCURRING HEREIN, that when the two Houses adjourn on Thursday, May 09, 2024, the Senate stands adjourned until Tuesday, May 14, 2024, or to the call of the President; and the House of Representatives stands adjourned until Monday, May 13, 2024, or to the call of the Speaker."

Natalie A. Manley (D)

"Leader Gabel moves for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Adjournment Resolution is adopted. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Gabel moves that the House stand adjourned until Monday, May 13, at the hour of 3 p.m. All those in favor say 'aye'; opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House stands adjourned."

Hollman

"House Perfunctory Session will come to order. Introduction and First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 5839, offered by… offered by Representative West, a Bill for an Act concerning education. House Bill 5840, offered by Representative Windhorst, a Bill for an Act concerning government. First Reading of these House Bills. There being no further business, the House Perfunctory Session will stand adjourned." 10300102.docx 41