Illinois House Floor Debate — June 2, 1972

"All who are not entitled to the House Chamber, will you please retire to the Gallery: Thank you."

"The House will be in order. The invocation this morning will be by Dr. Johnson."

"Good morning, Mr. Speaker. We pray. My dear Father in heaven, I lift my heart to you this morning in sincere gratitude for the gracious hand with which you have sustained me. I thank you for the wellbeing which you have given me in physical health. I thank you for the soundness of mind and the alertness of senses with which you have en- dowed me, thus, enabling me to serve in this House of Govern- ment. Keep me in the spirit of humility so that I may recognize that these gifts come from your hand. Keep me from all temptations which can so easily beset me and which can bear such bitter fruits in my life. Help me ever to be calm in spirit, charitable in judgement, considerate in action, con- trolled in discussion, understanding in deliberation, com- passionate in misunderstanding. I commit myself and my Colleagues to you this day. Watch between us so at the day's end we might seek peace and fellowship in Your Name. We ask this because you are a merciful and gracious God. Amen."

"Roll Call for Attendance. The gentle- man from Vermilion, Mr. Craig. The gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Craig."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like for the record to show that Representative Calvo is absent because of illness." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  3.

"The Journal will so indicate. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Madigan."

"Mr. Speaker, would the record show that Repre- sentative McDermott is absent because of illness?"

"The Journal will so indicate. Messages from the Senate."

"Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate concurred with the House in the adoption of House Amendment No. 1, to a Bill of the following title: Senate Bill 836. Concurred in by Senate, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate concurred with the House in the adoption of House Amendment No. 2, to a Bill of the following title: Senate Bill 837. Concurred in by Senate, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate concurred with the House in the adoption of House Amendment No. 1, to a Bill of the following title: 'Senate Bill 838. Concurred in by Senate, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolution, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House of Representatives: Sen Senate Joint Resolution 74. Adopted by the Senate, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Conference Committee Report: Adopted by the Senate, ah.. let's see, Conference Committee Report in regard to House Amendment No. 1, to Senate Bill 1182. Adopted by the Senate June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representative that the Senate has adopted the following Conference Committee Report House Amendment 1 and 2, to Senate Bill 1183. Adopted by the Senate, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of in the passage of a Bill of the following title: House Bill 493, together with the following Amendments in the adoption of which I am in- structed to ask the concurrence of the House. Passed the Senate, as amended, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representa- tives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Repre- sentatives in the passage of a Bill of the following title: House Bill 2707. Passed by the Senate, as amended, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in the passage of a Bill of the following title: "House Bill 3788, 3789 and 3793. Passed the Senate, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. .r. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has passed Bills of the following titles, in the passage of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House: "Senate Bill 1369, 1574, 1577, 1578, 1579 and GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  5. 1580. Passed the Senate, June 1, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. No further Messages."

"Committee Reports."

"Mr. Regner, from the Committee on Appro- priations, to which House Bills 800, 3782, 4133, 4392, 4623, 4677 were referred, reported the same back with the recom- mendation that the Bills do pass. Mr. Regner, from Appro- priations, to which House Bills 4182, 4197, 4351 were referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommendation that the Amendment be adopted and that the Bills, as amended, do pass. Mr. Juckett, from Executive, to which Senate Bill 1485 was referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bill do pass. Mr. Juckett, from Executive, to which House Joint Resolution 132 was referred, reported the same back withe Amendment thereto with the recommendation that the Amendments be adopted and that the Resolution, as amended, be adopted. Mr. Moore, from Counties and Townships, to which Senate Bill 1383 was referred, re- ported the same back with the recommendation that the Bill do not pass. Mr. Moore, from Counties and Townships, to which Senate Bill 1424 was referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bill do pass. Mr. Conolly, from the Committee on Public Utilities, to which Senate Bill 1392 was referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bill do pass and that it be placed on the Consent Calendar. Mr. Epton, from Public Welfare, to which Senate Bill 1494 was referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommendation that the Amendments be adopted, and. OF ILL GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  the Bill, as amended, do pass and be re-referred to Appro- priations. No further Committee Reports."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Schlickman."

"Mr. Speaker, with leave of the House, I should like to have Representative Robert Terzich added as a Co-Sponsor of House Bill 4420. It is at his request. I am the Chief Sponsor. And, I would appreciate this leave."

"House Bills ah.. Third Reading. House Bill 4082."

"House Bill 4082, an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Civil Service Commission. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman is just about there now. Alright.. With reference to ah.. House Bill 4082, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Lauterbach."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, House Bill 4082 appropriates $174,800 for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the State Civil Service Commission for the fiscal year beginning July 1st, 1972. Personal Services: $133,800. State Contributions to Retirement: $6,700. State Contribution to Social Security: $4,400. Contractual Services: "$16,000. Travel: $8,000.

"$1,500. Printing: "$1,000. Equipment: $1,000. Telecommunications Services: $2,400. Total: $174,800. I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote on this matter."

"Alright.. The question is, 'shall House Bill 4082 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', opposed GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 145 'Ayes', no 'Nays' and this Bill having received the Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4260."

"House Bill 4260, an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Local Government Affairs. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Bluthardt.'

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this is the ah.. the Bills for the ordinary and contingent ex- penses of the Department of Local Government Affairs. The total amount of this appropriation is $106,222,800. I'd ask for a favorable consideration on this Bill."

"Discussion? Alright.. The question is, 'shall House Bill 4260 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. Ah.. on this question, there is 141 'Ayes', 2 'Nays' and this Bill having received the Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4305."

"House Bill 4305, an Act to make appropria- tions for certain claims against the State of Illinois in conformity with awards made by the Court of Claims. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from ah... Sangamon, Mr. Gibbs."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a Court of Claims ah.. ah.. appropriation to pay GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  8. awards, if you'll read, ah.. which have been previously approved by the Court in the amount of ah.. $338,403.43. I ask for its approval."

"Further discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 4305 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 148 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4387."

"House Bill 4387, an Act relating to parti- cipation by the Department of Agriculture in the preparation of the Chicago Metropolitan Area River Basin Plan, andsoforth. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz.

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentle- men of the House, House Bill 4387 is an appropriation for $175,.... $172,500 to.. to the Department of Agriculture for the preparation of a Chicago Metropolitan ah.. Study Plan. Presently, the Chicago Sanitary District is conducting this Study. They're asking for the State to pick up half of the cost. I move for its adoption."

"Discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 4387 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye!, and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 140 'Ayes', and 2 'Nays' and this Bill having received the Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4420." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  9.

"House Bill 4420, a Bill for an Act to amend 'The School Code'. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Take it out of the record. The gentle- man from Cook, Mr. Schlickman, you want it taken out of the record?"

"Mr. Speaker, I don't believe that the Amend- ments have been printed. They were just adopted yesterday."

"Okay... How'd you miss that, Mr. Simmons? 4453."

"House Bill 4453, an Act to make an appropria- tion to the Governor for the Commission on Operation Little Calumet River. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Kipley."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a small appropriation of $2,000 for the ex- penses of the Commission on the Operation Little Calumet River. Ah.. those of you, on both sides of the aisle who have been teasing me for the last three years about this small appropriation, will, I'm sure, be glad to know that this is the Swan Song of the Commission and of its Sponsor because neither of us will be back next year. This Commission will be desolved this year and this money, that's now being appro- priated, is for their final report that is to be used as a project or pil.. or pilot example for other similar streams. I would appreciate your affirmative vote."

"Discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 4453 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 146 'Ayes and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received the Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4445."

"House Bill 4445, an Act pertaining to the labeling, sale and use of human blood and to make an appro- priation in connection therewith. Third Reading of the Bill

"The gentleman from McLean, Mr. Hall."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, in order to insure the proper medical care for the people in Illinois, it is necessary that an adequate supply of the highest quality of blood be available. The increasing demands for blood and the lack of donor interests is created in the increasing number of persons who donate for monetary compensation. And, this paid-donor population has been found responsible for an increase in. transfusion induced serum hepatitis. Actually, the ratio is about ten to one on sold blood. This Bill will ah.. cause ah.. all blood in Illinois to be labeled, whether sold or donated. And, in that way, we can reduce the amount of ah.. sold blood, and therefore, reduce the instances of serum hepatitis. There's a $25,000 appropriation attached to this Bill for administration by the Department of Public Health. Ah.. this Bill is endorsed by the Medical Society, the Pathological Society, the Illinois Hospital Association, the Illinois Nursing Association and other interested Groups. It's a good Bill. I hope we can get it over to the Senate and pass it and put it on the Books GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  in Illinois."

"Is there... The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Harold Washington."

"Will the Sponsor yield for one question?"

"He indicates he will."

"You said, 'Sold Blood'. Do you spell it, 'Sold' or 'Soul'?"

"Let's call it, 'Soul', Harold."

"Alright.. All those... The question is, 'shall House Bill 4445 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record, please. On this question, there are 146 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4528."

"4528, an Act in relation to inter... inter institutional cooperation in higher education. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Henss."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill establishes the Higher Education Cooperation Act providing that our private Colleges and Universities and our public Universities may enter into cooperative programs with each other. A cooperative program is an additional tool in Higher Education which can bring Higher Education Programs to an Area which might not otherwise receive them or can bring economies in the operation of the Universities. The Quad GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  12. Cities' Graduate Study Center is a good example. We have been appropriating funds for that program for three years and it has been quite successful. Many people have described it as, perhaps, the best buy in higher education for the taxpayer. This Bill continues the Quad City program and pro- vides the method for extending this concept to other parts of the State. Rockford is already making plans to use this Bill. The concept has been approved by both the House and the Senate. Last Fall, we passed a Resolution which mandated the Board of Higher Education to come up with type of Legis- lation which is now before us. This Bill is the result of our mandate to the Board of Higher Education in which we said that the Board of Higher Education should take those steps necessary to permanently estblish the Quad Cities' Graduate Study Center as an educational resource for the State, that the Board of Higher Education proceed to prepare plans and enabling Legislation for implementation of this type of Cooperative Educational Program for other levels of Higher Education at both the graduate and undergraduate levels in the State of Illinois with specific attention to Chicago, Peoria, the Quad Cities and Rockford. This Bill is included in the budget. The amount of the appropriation is $590,000 and ah.., as a matter of fact, is less than one million dollars which is included in the budget. A survey of eighty-eight institutions of Higher Education in Illinois shows that ninty percent are interested in seeking new or expanded interin- stitutional cooperative programs. It is needed. It is one UNTATE OF 17 GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  answer in our effort to provide Higher Education at a greatly reduced. cost. Received unanimous vote in Committee. And, I would appreciate your support."

"Discussion? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Palmer."

"If the Sponsor will yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"What about the curriculum? Is this ah.. a facility for a curriculum that is not ah.. set up in any of the Colleges or Universities?"

"Is is not a facility for a particular curriculum. What it does is to permit flexibility in.. in bringing any type of a curriculum to a particular Area or.. or provides ah.. common buying programs, for instance. Ah.. for instance, in the Quad Cities, there are ah.. nine institutions. And, the Quad Cities have programs from each of the nine Universi- ties there. These nine Universities, through a cooperative agreement which they have, ah.. will bring certain of their best programs to the Quad Cities. University of Illinois will send a Professor there to teach. Ah.. perhaps, ah.. arrangements will be made on ah.. television teaching, that type of thing. But, it is a method of cooperation and.. and our appropriation for the Quad Cities ah.., having been in the range of forty some thousand dollars in the past, ah.. with well over a thousand students ah.. being taught, is an extremely inexpensive method of bringing Higher Education to a Community which might not otherwise receive it." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  14.

"Well, are we talking about regularly enrolled College Students and ah.. who would be ah.. ah.. going or partaking of the ah.. offerings of a device such as this?"

"Yes, they are regularly enrolled. They will re- ceive a degree, not from the program, but from the institution, ah.. ah.. member institution and the program."

"Well, why is it necessary that we expend any money at all on something like this? Ah.. ah.. can't the Universities ah.. ah.. or Colleges involved ah.. spend their own money for this particular thing? Or.. Or what's the need for the expenditure of money from the State?"

"Well, it's appropriated to the University, why, it's also the taxpayer's money. Ah.. in some manner, there are fund necessary for the development of this program. Well, let me read you, in answer to that question, an Article which appeared ah.. in the ah.. UPT ah.. ah.. within the past week. It's got ah.. a New York dateline, an UPI Article. I won't read the whole thing, but the Headline here is, 'Two Hundred Colleges May Close, No Money'. And, here's part of the Article. 'While the financial picture for Colleges is grim, some Insti- tutions may have found a way to survive through cooperation. This solution, according to the Academy of Educational Development is College Consortia. Groups of Colleges, pooling physical facilities and even faculties to achieve an enormous savings. The Consortia are usually formed along geographical lines. Institutions in a single Area will use each others libraries, laboratories, dining hauls, accounting departments GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  and even teachers. A few are National in scope. Half a dozen schools in widely scattered Cities, for example, will pool their instructional and sales facilities to cut costs. The Academy says, at least, seven hundred Colleges now participate in these Consortias. It doesn't know how many separate Consortias exist, but recently counted sixty-five groups that pooled teaching facilities and shared faculty members'. But now as far as examples, I won't read the whole thing but there were some specific examples of benefit to be gained. Ah.. one says ah.., 'large Consortia of ah.. of Colleges, pooling courses in a Metropolitan Area, calculated that it saved as many as one hundred teaching posts. Another thing said, down in New Orleans, 'Consortia in the New Orleans Area this year enabled seventy-seven social science students to get wide training. The social work students were able to take courses at three difference Universities, one having a predominately black student body, one predominately white, one with about forty percent Latin American or Black Students'. Another example, eleven Colleges in New Hamsphire formed a Consortia to establish a Marine Scientist Program that none could have afforted independently."

"Further discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 4528 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. Collins.. Col.. Phil Collins.. 'aye'. On this question, there are 144 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  hereby declared passed. 4649. Lauterbach.. 'aye' on the last Bill."

"House Bill 4649, a Bill for an Act to amend Section 20 of the 'Revenue Act of 1939'. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Randolph."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, House Bill 4649 amends the 'Revenue Act' to provide that in classifying real estate for tax purposes, an apartment cooperative or a condominium can not be assessed at a higher percentage than a single family resident. This Bill would cause a significant reduction in the Tax Bills of those residents who own cooperatives or condominium apartments. Presently, such dwellings are being assessed at rates in excess of thirty- five percent of full value while single family residents in Cook County average twenty-two percent assessments. I urge your favorable vote on this measure."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. ah.. Palmer.".

"If the Sponsor will yield for a question? Ah.. does the Bill ah.., as it's.. as it has gone through, does it contain the words, 'owner occupied'?"

"Contain what?"

"'Owner occupied'. In other words, we won't have a situation where we have a series of condominiums that are rented?"

"No.. No.. No, Sir." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  17.

"Any further ah.. discussion? The gentle- man care to close? Alright.. The question is, 'shall House Bill 4649 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Shapiro.. 'aye'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 134 'Ayes' and 5 'Nays' and this Bill having re- ceived a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4665."

"House Bill 4665, an Act to make an appro- priation to the Board of Governos of State Colleges and Universities, andsoforth. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from ah.. ah.. Vermilion, Mr. Campbell."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 4665 appropriates $193,400 to the Board of Governors. And, the purpose of this ah.. they had an ex- plosion in the electrical system about ah.., well, I think, it was on May the 7th of this year, and of course, that was after the budget had been prepared, And, it is an emergency and they have to restore this cable and also check the entire system. I'd appreciate your favorable support."

"Is there further discussion? The ques- tion is, 'shall this Bill pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. Cox.. 'aye'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 144 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  18. passed. 4505."

"House Bill 4505, an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Clerk of the Supreme Court. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Gibbs."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill appropriates $223,400 for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Court of Claims. And, I'd ask for its approval."

"Any further discussion? The question is, 'shall this Bill pass?'. Oh! Just.. Wait.. The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Regner."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd just like to comment. There was an Amendment ah. put on the Bill already that reduces the appropriation by $4,500."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Berman."

"I believe the Sponsor said, 'Court of Claims'. The Digest says, 'Supreme Court'. Ah.. Could we ah.. have a clarification on that?"

"Well, this is for the 'Su.....' Yes. Excuse me. I thought the Digest was wrong; but it's not. It's just ah.... 'Clerk of the Supreme Court'. That's one of the many other Bills that I have."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I just wish Mr. Berman wouldn't get so technical. Thank you." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  19.

"Alright.. Any further discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 4505 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this ques- tion, there are 153 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4651."

"4651.. House Bill 4651, an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Clerk of the Appellate Court of the Second District. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Kane, Mr. Schoeberlein."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill is exactly what ah.. is stated on the Calendar. And, I ask for your support."

"Any discussion? The question is, 'shall this Bill pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. Bradley.. 'aye'. On this question, there are 145 'Ayes' and 1 'Nay' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4653."

"House Bill 4653, an Act to make an appro- priation to the Department of Finance. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 4653 appropriates $592,250 to the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  20. Department of Finance for electronic data processing service to this General Assembly, I as for your fav.. favorable consideration."

"Discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 46... Oops... The gentleman from DuPage, ah.. Mr Hudson."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, no, I just wanted to inquire as to what this ah.. processing... electronic data processing is, what is it all about?"

"Actually, the three page series, first, one being that the.. all of the Statutes are presently on file when a Bill is, has to be drafted in the Reference Bureau. They, in turn, turn to this file, ah.. review the Statute they have just prepared electronically. They have a direct inquiry system. Also, we have a Bill status system that is presently operating and, in turn, ah.. the Clerk's Office and also, the Appropriation Staffs, and the Leadership of both sides of the aisle receive a copy of all these reports."

"Thank you."

"Further discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 4653 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 145 'Ayes' and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4085."

"House Bill 4085, an Act to provide for GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  21. the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Law Enforcement Commission in the Office of the Governor. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Regner."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, 4085 appropriates $3,594,300. for the ordinary con- tingent expenses of the Illinois Law Enforcement Commission. I ask for a favorable vote."

"The gentlemen from Cook, H. Washington."

"Mr. Speaker, the Members of the House, I simply wanted to thank the sponsor for holding this bill for me, and supplying the information I have requested, and I am satisfied that the Illinois Law Enforcement Commission is processing the Witness Protection Act. Thank you."

"Any further discussion? The question is, 'shall House Bill 4085 pass?'. All those in favor vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 147 'Ayes' and 1 'Nay' and this bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. 4420."

"House Bill 4420, An Act to Amend the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Schlickman." E. Schlickman: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4420 appropriates the sum of $100,000. for scholarships to teachers who desire to be reeducated and retrained in the field of Special Education. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  22. The emphases is upon those areas in the State where the most critical need lies. In 1969, Special Education was mandated for all public schools in the State. However, due to a shortage of personnel, we have not achieved our goal of the availability of Special Education to all students in need of it. House Bill 4420 is a modest, but important proposal for increasing the supply of Special Education Teachers, so that the demand may be met. The Bill is endorsed by a variety of Education and Mental Health Groups, was given a recommendation do pass by both the Elementary and Secondary Education Committees, the Appropriations Committee. I solicit your support."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. J. J. Wolf."

"Will the Sponsor yield to a question?"

"Indicates he will."

"Now.. These Scholarships for Teachers, I.. I assume that, under the State Scholarship Commission, they're ah.. based upon financial need and no other criteria. Is that correct?"

"No Representative, they are not based on needs, but rather an expressed interest on the part of a teacher with regard to ah.. receiving additional education, so that he or she may qualify ah.. to teach Special Education with the emphas s being on those Areas in the State that have been declared by the Office of Economic Opportunity... the Office of Economic Opportunity as being an Area where there is a critical need for these Special Education Teachers." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  23.

"Well, I always thought that the State Scholarship Commission was set up to help students who were financially in need. And, frankly, if we're going to subsidize teachers who can well afford to pay for their own education, I just wonder just how far we're going to carry this thing. Now, we're starting with a $100,000 appropriation. Next year, it'll be $200,000. And, every time we start a new program, it has ah.. a tendency to snowball. And, I think, we should keep the State Scholarship Commission as it was set up for, to help students who are in financial need. Now, if we've got another $100,000 to spend, we ought to spend it on stu- dents who can't afford an education on their own and not subsidize the rich. And, I'm going to vote against this Bill."

"If I may, Mr. Speaker, I'd certainly like to respond by simply saying that this is a ah.. Special Education Program, not being administered by the Scholarship Commission as indicated in the Digest, but rather being administered by ah.. the Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Palmer."

"If the Sponsor will yield for a question."

"He indicates he will."

"Ah.. Gene, does this money have to be paid back?"

"If the Teacher, after being educated, spend three years in the District from which the Teacher comes or ah.. volunteers to teach in, there will be no pay back. However, if the Teacher does not ah.. comply with his or her GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  24. contractural obligation, then he or she will be required to pay the Scholarhip Fund back in total or partially, depending upon how much educational.. special educational service that you provide. And, by Amendment adopted, the principle ah.. will be paid plus five percent interest."

"Do we have any statistics as to the number of College Students that are enrolled in the Special Education Courses or curriculum at our Colleges and Universities that ah.. would do the same work as Teachers do? Or, you want to do by this Bill?"

"Representative, I have no specific statistics. But, I would like to say that the Dean of the Special Educa- tion Department at the Illinois State University is a supporter of this Bill."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I'm not so much concerned about who supports this Bill. Obviously, the Educational Establishment of this State, who ah.. duty it appears to be to protect the present existing Teachers, would be in favor of this Bill. But, it seems to me that it does discriminate ah.. against these young students who have to pay the money back, who are enrolled in the Special Education Courses, that we should give a free ride to Teachers in this State ah. for this type of thing. I urge my Colleagues to vote against this Bill."

"The gentleman from ah.. Macon, Mr. Borchers."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Fellow Members of the House, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  25. I rise ah.. against the passage of this Bill. I just want you to reflect that a Teacher is already a wage earner. If they wish to take additional courses and prepare themselves for a better job, they should save the money and use their own money for this purpose. Now, as Representative Palmer said, we have young people going to the Universities for the purpose of becoming ah.. Teachers who have no help and have to.. or... if they do do it themselves, pay their way, ah.. that's one thing. But, they have... if they need help from the State, which we give, they have to pay it back. I think that it's incongruous ah.. for us to pass such a Bill and unjust to those who we should be truly helping. So, I say that we should vote against this Bill."

"The gentleman ah.. from Whiteside, ah.. Mr. Miller."

"Ah.. will the gentleman ah.. yield to a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Ah.. Gene, ah.. does this apply to just students who are presently enrolled in our Universities or does it permit a school teacher, who has been teaching for five or ten years, to go back and take this type of Special Educa- tion?"

"Representative, this applies only to certi- fied teachers who want to get into the Special Education Field."

"In other words, ah.. presently, a teacher, who is employed, is the only one that qualifies?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  E. F. Schlickman: "That's right."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Rayson."

"Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield to another question? Ah.. Gene, ah.. I'm going to support your Bill. And ah.., I think, it's an appropriate kind of Bill. But, I think, the objections raised are valid. My question is, in light of the fact of the statistics that come to my atten- tion, that there were something like 17,000 Teachers, graduated last year, for which there was something like 6,000 job opportunities. I'm just wondering if the Law out supplies the demand with present reality suggest, that was an Encourage- ment Policy of the State to bring the Teachers into these. Programs, that maybe we can do these things without the appro- priations and without tampering with the State Scholarship Funds."

"I want to respond, Representative, by saying this, that this Bill is recognition to the need for more Teachers to be trained in the Field... Spe.. Special Field of Educa... Field of Special Education pertaining to those students, who are socially maladjusted, emotionally dist.. disturbed who have learning disabilities of a severe nature. While there is a supply of Teachers for the general category of educable mentally handicapped, there is a special need for the other categories of Teachers. This Bill would offer a way to solve that problem. Now, in the Report by the Com- mission on the financing of Higher Education, March, 1972, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  27 it is shown that out of 37,000, 733 statutory tuition waivers were reported for the Fall of 1971, only 732 were for Special Education. Now, this is also for Special Education but it is in those poverty Areas where they are especially needed and where there is a demand and not a supply."

"Ah.. Well, I understand what you're saying. And, I think, you understand what I'm saying. But, if there is a dilemma in the area of poverty situations where the supply is not met, then something is seriously wrong with ah.. either supplying the demand right ah.. market or State Policy ah.. not to channel these people in this important means."

"Well, by this Bill, we are correcting that problem, partially, and we're heading in that direction."

"The gentleman ah.. from DuPage, ah.. Mr. Hudson."

"Ah.. would the ah.. Sponsor yield for a question?"

"He indicates that he will."

"Gene, I notice in the Digest here, and forgive me if the question has already been answered and I have missed it. But, the Digest indicates that this obligates parti... participating Teachers to teach in poverty Areas. My ques- tion, specifically, is this. Has there been.... Is that.. Is that a fair statement? Does it limit this to poverty Areas or has there been an Amendment of some kind that broadens the application?"

"Representative, there is already being ad- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  28. ministered.. administered within the Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction a program of scholarships in the field of Special Education, generally. This is a supplement to that program with the emphasés being on those poverty Areas in the State."

"Thank you."

"The gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Day."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I think, this is a.. an excellent Bill because the real problems in education today are not with the bright students or the average students. The real problems are with the slow students and those who need special help. And, most of the authorities say that the Teachers, which we have trained, really aren't capable and competent to handle. stu- dents of this type. And, I think, that we should ah.. pro- vide more resources and better training for ah.. Teachers who are anxious and willing to devote their efforts in ah.. helping these slower students. And ah.., I think, that the Bill is a good one. And, I think, that it should be supported."

"Further discussion? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Berman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in support of House Bill 4420. I think, it's a ah.. modest effort to direct itself to a serious shortage of Teachers in a very particular Area. I think, we do have to do something. This is to give encouragement to Teachers who have already been in the teaching field to GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  29. go back and get the special courses necessary in the critical area of Special Education. I think, that the Sponsor has done a commendable job in trying to make it a ah.. Bill that is a fiscally conservative Bill as far as the requirements to pay back, if the performance is not done in the Areas where the Special Educational Courses are needed. And, I think, that it's ah.. set up in line with our general program that we have tried to follow in this Legislature of ah.. addressing tuition waivers to particular needs of the educa- tion community that requires particular attention and not to just blanket a lot of people in with something for nothing. This is not that kind of Bill. This is a Bill addressed to a very specific educational need. I urge your support of this Bill."

"The ah.. gentleman from Adams, Mr. McClain."

"Ah.. will the Sponsor yield for a question or two, please? Ah.. Gene, ah.. when you're talking about the Teacher, who is sent away, we'll say, for example, to Illinois State, which has this type of program, and they must go teach in the poverty Area. Let's say, for example, a Teacher in Quincy, who's on ah.. ah.. a certificate, but it is not a certificate for Special Education, will she be allowed to go to Illinois State, under a Teacher waiver, and then come back into the Quincy School System, which is not a poverty Area, and teach there? Or, are we just going to subsidize her.. her educa- tion and bring her back into an Area which is middle class?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  E. F. Schlickman: "Well, as I indicated at the very offset, there is presently a program of State Scholarships ah.. ad- ministered through the Office of the Superintendent of Public Instruction in the field of Special Education, generally. By this Bill, we are adding to that ah.. programs with the emphases on those poverty Areas where there is such a critical need that presently exists. An option would be given to a Teacher from Quincy to either apply for a scholarship through the general program or through this program. If through the general program, she'd be able to go back to Quincy, or he or she. Under this program, her services would be ah.. directed in a Ar.. in an Area ah.. designated by the Office of Economic Opportunity."

"Well, I'm going to support it. But, I.. I think, it's time that we quit conning the people and ah.., and everyone quit conning them. By this time next year, there's going to be enough Special Ed Teachers and we just as well quit conning them on that. But, I'm going to support it."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Meyer."

"Representative Schlickman, I understand that, presently, in the Chicago Board of Education, there are un.. there are no unfilled Teachers' positions and there are.. And, there are applicants in every category. Isn't this true?"

"I'm sorry, Representative, would you restate that, please?"

"That the Chicago Board of Education, which pro- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  vides education for ninety-nine percent of the poverty Areas in the State of Illinois, has no avail.. available Teach.. unfilled Teacher positions. Namely, if you had more Special Education Teachers available to the Chicago Board, are there any positions open for them?"

"Probably, Representative, what you have in the City of Chicago, I'm not familiar with the details, but probably, you have Teachers, who are certified as regular Teachers but who are not certified as Special Education Teachers and are serving under provisional ah.. basis, not providing the quality or kind of education ah.. that these kids do require and which was mandated by the State Legisla- ture in 1969,"

"Well, Representative Schlickman, it is my under- standing that there are no unfilled Teacher positions in the City of Chicago which is the poverty Area that you are relating to. You're creating scholarships for unneeded Teachers."

"Re.. Representative, what we are doing, is not directing our attention to just the City of Chicago, we are directing our attention to the.. to all of the poverty Areas in the State of Illinois and we are directing our atten- tion to providing quality of teacher ability in the Special Education Field, but presently does not exist. As the con- sequence, the quality, the spirit, the ah.. Legislative intent of the mandatory Special Education Program of 1969 is not being met fully. And, this Bill ah.. is intended.. was designed ah.. to bring about the full implementation ah.. ulti- 31. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  mately of that Legislative mandate of 1969,"

"Alright.. The gentleman from McLean, Mr.. Bradley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I wonder if the Sponsor might yield for only one more question? Gene, I'm wondering if there are any programs in the Institutions of Higher Learning that specifi- cally would prepare a Teacher to ah.., in Special Ed, ah.. would specifically prepare them to teach in the Urban Area?"

"Well, the teaching of Special Education doesn't have the emphases ah.. of Areas. It has the emphases of Special Education when a child is in need of it. But, what we're talking about here is providing for a supply of Teachers trained in Special Education who would be available to teach in these poverty Areas."

"Well, I appreciate that. But, the... We're. not talking about a need here for.. for a ah.. Special Ed Teacher ah.. to help the blind or to ah.. help the ah.. incapacitated ah.. in one field.. in one way or another. But, we're talking about preparing Teachers specifically to teach in the Urban Areas. And, this is one of the things that the Urban Education Commission has addressed itself to. But we are suggesting that the Institutions such as the Illinois State and our Teacher Institutions provide ah.. courses ah.. to train these students to go into the Urban Areas and teach. And, so far, I haven't seen where our Higher Institutions have addressed themselves to that fact.. And, if we appro- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  33. priate the funds here this morning ah.. to provide ah.. ah.. scholarships for these Teachers, I don't see where they can go to ah.. to any of our Institutions to ah.. receive the type of education that they need in Special Education to go into the Urban Areas. We have found that the Urban Areas ah have a need, there's no question about it, for Teachers with special capabilities. And, the number one capability is - experience. Ah.. I'm going to support the Bill reluctantly because, ah.. I don't feel that we have courses that we're going to give money for them to ah.. go.. to go ah.. to school where the courses are simply not available to my ah.. to the best of my knowledge."

"Representative, about the only and probably the best response that I can give ah.. to your inquiry, is the fact that the Dean of the Special Education School at Illinois State University is one of the principal supporters of this Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Downes."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move the previous question."

"Alright.. The previous question has been moved. All those in favor say 'aye', the opposed 'no', the motion is carried. We'll return to the gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Schlickman, to close the debate."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I certainly appreciate very much the interest and attention that has ah.. been given to this Bill. I think, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  34. that the meritorious contents of it ah.. certainly warrant ah.. such interest and attention. I respectfully remind the Members of this House that in 1969, we, the State Legis- lature did mandate Special Education for public schools in the State of Illinois. We have found, since then, that the public schools have not been able to carry out this mandate because of a shortage of Teachers in the Special Education Field. And, there does exist a critical need in certain Areas of the State. This is a Bill that is directed ah.. to the need that exists. It's a Bill that is a ah.. an exten- sion of the.. implementory extension of the 1969 mandatory Law. It is a Bill that is directed to the need of.. of children. It's not the result of any lobby other than that of the public welfare ah.. of these children who do have the need. The Bill has been endorsed, as I mentioned earlier, ah.. by a variety ah.. of Organizations. Ah.. it does have the support of the Office of Human Resources in the Governor's Office. It has the support of the Superintendent of Public Instruction. I sincerely ah.. solicit your support of it."

"Alright.. The question is, 'shall House Bill 4420 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. Have all voted who wished? Lechowicz. 'aye'. Have all voted who wished? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Juckett."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, there has been no showing here of how many vacancies there are. There has been no showing of the need. This is GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  35. one of the most discriminatory Bills that has come before us. The people, who are eligible for these particular grants, are severely limited. It is not a State-wide Bill. There's no.. There has been no showing of the definition. I think, if we're going to work on Special Ed, there's a need through+ out the entire State. It doesn't come from one Area. It comes from all over. And, I'm just sorry that the Bill is in there. I think, it could have had a much better explana- tion as far as the need. I think, that many of the questions were not answered. And, I think, maybe we ought to hold it up until we can get the answers before we start initiating new programs and new demands in the State's Treasury."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Kosinski, to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen, I wish to vote 'present' on this Bill because of a concern. While the gentle provisions of this Bill are obviously good, I am concerned with mandating Teachers to work in Areas that may not be to their advantage. And, on that basis, I would like to make a 'present' vote."

"Record the gentleman as 'present'. Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On this ques- tion, there are 114 'Ayes', 27 'Nays' and 1 'Present'. And, this Bill having received a Constitutional majority, is here- by declared passed. House Bill 4429. I'm sorry. It's House Bill 4499."

"House Bill 4499, an appropriation to Charles GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  36. E. Johnson. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from DuPage, Mrs. Dyer." R. C. Dyer (Mrs.): "Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is very simply an appropriation of $100. as a Veteran's ah.. War Bonus to Charles Johnson of DuPage County. It has been approved both by the Veteran's Commission and the Appropriations Committee. I.. I would appreciate a favorable vote."

"Is there any discussion? Alright.. The question is, 'shall House Bill 4499 pass?'. Those in favor vote 'aye', those opposed 'nay'. Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On this question, there are 140 'Ayes' and no 'Nays' and the Bill having received a Constitu- tional majority is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4437.

"House Bill 4437, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the 'Revenue Act'. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Glass."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 4437 would give the same treatment ah.. for real estate tax purposes to private airports as the farms now enjoy. Specifically, ah.. it addresses the problem that we're facing in this State where many private airports, that are located on valuable commercial or industrial land, are going out of business. And, when this happens, the State is faced with the problem of having to provide other airport facilities or ah.. face the situation of doing without ah.. airports and forcing these private planes into the ah.. large GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  public aiports. So, we've seen a number of private airports close in the State. In fact ah.., in Cook County alone, the number has been reduced from approximately thirty to ah.. nine or ten private airports at the present time. Now, the way this Bill would work is that it would tax ah.. permit airports to be taxed ah.. be assessed rather for real estate tax purposes on the basis of their fair cast value as an airport. And, as long as they're used by an air.. as an airport, ah.. they are taxed in that manner. However, when they cease to be used for that purpose, ah.. then the owner must pay to the State ah.. the difference between what the property would have been taxed ah.. as industrial or commercial use and what it had actually been taxed for a period of three years ah.. ah.. prior to the change in use. As I say, it would treat these airports in the same manner as farms. It has the ah.. support of ah.. Department of Aeronautics. And Director Landolt has testified in Committee. I know of no opposition and urge your support."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question? Is Pehl- waukee Airport in your District."

"Ah.. it is not ah.. at the moment, Gerry. But ah.., with the redistricting, I hope that it will be next year."

"Now, do you have any idea of what the assessed evaluation on Pehlwaukee is at this time?"

"I can't give you that. However, if I may ah... since you did ah.. raise the question in Committee, I.. I GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  did talk to the School Superintendent, Ken Gill, Community Consolidated District #21 regarding the possible loss of tax revenue ah.. to that District. And, his position on it was that he was not opposed to this Bill. He would be con- cerned that, if the Airport were sold and that developed for ah.. residential use, ah.. the possibility that it was ah.. fairly strong that that would happen, that the burden on the District of having to provide school facilities and Teachers for the increased number of students, was to very likely exceed ah.. ah.. the loss in revenue that would be occasioned by this Bill."

"Well, can you.. can you tell me what the evalua- tion is at the present time?"

"I can not ah.. give you that."

"Well, won't this Bill, in effect, reduce the assessed evaluation on Pehlwaukee Airport by fifty percent?"

"Well, that's difficult to answer because the Bill would provide that it would be assessed as the fair market value as an Airport. And ah.., I don't know what the present ah.. assessment is. I think, the ah.. Director indicated that, Statewide, his estimates in loss of revenue to Local Government was a million dollars. But, that covers the entire State."

"Well, would you mind holding this Bill until you can give me the figures on, say, Pehlwaukee Airport or a couple of other ones so we could figure out just what kind of a bonanza we're giving to some landowners?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  39.

"I don't ah.. see that there's any bonanza. And, I don't know ah.. ah.., in the time allotted, whether I'd have an opportunity to get those figures."

"Well, I.. I would say that, if you're taking a person's real estate tax and cutting it right in half, ah.. I.. I think, maybe I shouldn't use the word, 'bonanza', let's use the readjustment figures or something, but would you mind doing that or do you want to try to move it today?"

"Well, I.. I don't mind ah.. doing it. I.. I would only say to you that it's clear that there's no bonanza here because the reason for the Bill is that if we don't have ah.. some tax relief for the private airports, they will be sold and ah.. go out of business. And, they certainly could be sold for ah.. far more than their.. their value is as an Airport. I think, that's.. that's a problem that the Bill ah.. addresses. And ah.., I.. I don't mind holding it except that I don't know where I'm going to get the figures in.. in the limited time available. I'd be happy to give you...."

"I'll ah.. I'll try to get them from the Cook County Assessor on Monday."

"Well, alright.. I'll be willing to hold it then until next week."

"Thank you."

"Ah.. take it out of the record. Alright.. House Bills Second Reading. House Bill ah.. 4257."

"House Bill 4257, a Bill for an Act to pro- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  mote fair practices and the conduct of Election campaigns. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor?"

"Amendment No. 1, P. W. Collins, amends House Bill 4257 on Page 4, by striking Lines 17 through 26 and inserting in lieu thereof the following: 'for a State elective office may spend for the use of communications media on behalf of his candidacy in such election a total amount in excess of 10 cents multiplied by the number of registered voters in the geographical area in which the election for such office is held' andsoforth."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. yes, Mr. Speaker, House Bill 4257, as you know, is the Campaign Spending Disclosure Bill. Ah.. Amend- ment No. 1 would strike the provision of limiting expendi- ture to sixty percent of the ah.. funds to be allocated for ah.. the media ah.. to be spent in radio and television adver- tising. Ah.. this ah.. was suggested by the Chicago Daily News ah.. Editorial on May 8th. And also the Illinois Broadcasters Association. The arguments being, of course, that ah.. campaigns in different parts of the State may take on ah.. ah.. different types of campaigning and the ah.. candidates should be allowed to ah.. allocate his funds in any manner in which he sees fit. I.. I think, this is a valid criticism. And, I ah.. I.. for that reason, we drafted the Amendment striking the sixty percent provision. I would GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  ah.. move for its adoption."

"The ah.. gentleman from Union, Mr. Choate."

"Does this bring ah.. Would the gentleman yield to a question."

"Ah.. he indicates he will."

"Does this bring the television and radio media in line as far as the newspaper media is concerned on expendi- tures?"

"Ah.. yes, Clyde. As Bill was originally drawn, ah.. your expenditure was limited to sixty percent on ah.. television and radio. Now, the.. the sixty percent would be striken and you would expend your funds as you see fit on ah.. any media such as.. that you desire to spend it on."

"In other words, it relieves any and all strings as to where the candidate spends his money regarding the media period?"

"Ah.. the limitation is still 10 cents per registered voter ah.. for spending on media. But, it does.. it removes any discrimination as to ah.. as between ah.. the various forms of media."

"What I'm saying... What I'm asking you is, is all media, all media treated identically under this Amendment?

"Ah.. All communications media are treated identi- cally. Yes."

"Not communications... Is all media, newspapers, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  magazines, billboards, radio, television, are they all treated equally now?"

"Yeah.. Yes, that's right."

"Including billboards?"

"Yes, including billboards."

"Alright.. All those in favor of the adoption of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"Amendment No. 2, P. W. Collins, amends House Bill 4257 on Page 13 by striking Lines 25, 26 and 27 and in- serting in lieu thereof the following: 'reports shall be filed on the 15th and 5th days next preceding and the 15th day next following the date on which an election is held, and also on the 30th day of June and'."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. yes, Mr. Speaker, Amendment No. 2 merely adds ah.. an additional reporting date ah.. to the Bill ah.. to pick up ah.., or I should say, to initiate a reporting date after the election ah.. which would pick up ah.. any ah.. last minute ah.. contributions or expenditures that may be made ah.. in the closing days of the campaign. Ah.. this was suggested by the Organization known as 'Common Cause' and ah.. the Illinois State Register also agreed in its Editorial that this ah.. would be ah.. ah.. a needed and ah.. Amendment. I think, it's another Amendment that further GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  strengthens the Bill and I would vote for the adoption of Amendment No. 2."

"Discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, ah.. I.. I've learned that there are additional Amendments to be offered. And ah.., I've only had an opportunity to examine one. Ah.. Mr. Lechowicz has asked that we ah.. bear with him until his Amendments are ready and we ah.. and he and I have had a chance to discuss them. And, I.. I would suggest that we take it out of the record until we have had that opportunity"

"Alright.. Is there objection? Alright. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, ah.. I know that we're short of time. Ah.. and now, it would appear that there are, six or seven Amendments to be offered. And ah.., in fairness to all of us, Myself and the Sponsors of the ah.. Amendments and all Member of this House, we're going to have to have time to digest ah.. ah.. the effect of these Amendments. And ah.., I would move ah.. that we take this Bill out of the record at the present time ah.. to be ah.. considered at a later date as you see fit, Mr. Speaker."

"Alright.. Is there ah.. objection? Hearing none, then we'll leave the Bill on Second Reading ah.. while these ah.. other Amendments, that are being pro- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  posed ah.., have time to be considered. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz."

"Mr. Speaker, ah.. and the Sponsor of the Bill, we have discussed two Amendments. I'm wondering if we could adopt the two that we have discussed? Alright.. Take it out of the record. Thank you."

"Yeah.. The two Amendments have been adopted. Introductions and First Reading of House Bills."

"House Bill 4678, C. L. McCormick,..."

"The gentleman ah.. from Johnson, Mr. McCormick."

"Mr. Speaker,... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would appreciate it very much if the Members of the House would listen to the introduction of this Bill. Now, Mr. Speaker, if I might make just a short statement, what this Bill does is something that looks to me like the Members of this House should have been doing the last two months. We've talked about helping the police, the judges, the county clerks, the sheriffs and everybody else in Illinois, but we have forgotten the most important person in the State of Illinois. And, that's the people that live here. That's the property tax owners in the State of Illinois. This Bill, and I don't know the number of it, would put a freeze on real.. on.. on property taxes in Illinois for two years. I propose in this Bill, Mr. Speaker, that after January the 1st, 1973 and until January the... wait.. January the 1st, 1975, no county clerk shall extend for a property GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  45. tax fund levied by a unit of local government or a school district any amount greater than the amount legally extended for the year 1972. I have made some exemptions and some exceptions in... in this Bill. It does not affect qualifying rates. It doesn't affect units where there is or has been a referendum. It doesn't affect, like Sangamon County, last year, did not extend the corporate rate because they had enough money, they can go back another year. But, it's time that we, in the General Assembly, do just exactly what I've been following the Chicago papers and they're doing it in Cook County, they're stopping all of this excess employees, If you've watched, the police department is cutting back help. Other sections of people in the Cook County Area, and.. and they always talk about the Democrats up there hiring more help than they need. I even hear from some of my Colleagues that they're asking some of the Democrats up there to work now for their money. And, that's good. And, I've hear Representative Shea talk almost continuously on the floor of this House about property tax problems. I've heard our candidate for Lieutenant Governor worry about the Farmer. Well, C. L. McCormick says it's time you people all get together and let's worry about everybody for the next two years. And, let's stop..... Let's stop this continual in- crease in real estate taxes until we get the report back from the Governor's Commission and whoever else has got a Commission about how to finance schools, until we hear the results of the lawsuits, like the California Case and the Texas Case. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  And, we will be the third State in.. in the Union that takes a program like this. Kansas has passed it and Governor Reagan has asked for it in California. Mr. Speaker, under Section 38a of the Rules, I would like to have this set at a specific time set by you for a Hearing of the Committee of the Whole."

"The ah.. gentleman from Union want to move to adjourn now?"

"Not hardly. I'd like to ask my distinguished Colleague one question. And then, I would like to make one comment."

"Yes ah.., he indicates ah.. he'll yield "

"C. L., I'm sure that you're well aware of the fact that many of the Counties from the portion of the State from whence you and I come and Gale Williams and Dick Hart and others from that Area, are complaining at the present time that the Department of Revenue, our Local Government Affairs rather, is coming down and talking to the County Boards and saying that this is going to be your multiplier whether you like it or whether you don't. And, many of the County Boards are saying, 'We don't need a multiplier at this particular ah.. time. We took care of.. of the future a couple of years ago. And, we do not... And, we do not want a multiplier increase'. Does this correct that inequity that the Department is forcing upon some of our Counties at the present time?"

"What this will do, Clyde, will make it where, and I'd like to sit down after we get over and go over this GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  47. with you. What this will do, it will make no difference if Director Lehnhausen would multiply Union County by ten or Johnson County by ten. It would make no difference on the evaluation because the County Clerk could extend only the amount of money that they had in the '72 extension."

"I would say then, Mr. Speaker, that if it cor- rects some of the inequities that exist as far as the Direc- tor, who he just mentioned is concerned, and as far as some of the ah.. tax levying in most of the Downstate Counties are concerned, not only do I concur.in the gentleman's state- ment, but I would hope that the Bill would become effective immediately upon becoming Law. And, I would suggest, Mr. Speaker, to the Membership of this House, that we resolve oursel ves into a Committee of the Whole, as he has requested, as soon as possible and once and for all get on the road as far as correcting some of the inequities that exist in the tax burdens of the people of this State of Illinois today. And, the sooner the better that we can get to it."

"The ah.. gentleman from Johnson, Mr. McCormick."

"Ah.. do you realize that it's the Speaker's prerogative to set this time? And, I'm willing to go along with that. But, I would like to tell every Member of the House that the Bill is down on the Clerk's desk and I would be happy to have any and every Member, on both and every side of this aisle, on that Bill. And, I'll be glad to talk about any changes that we have to have. It's not a hard-nose deal. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  48. I just want to do something for the people in Illinois that, I think, that we should do before we leave here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"The gentleman from Kane, Mr. Hill."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I tried to get your attention. And, I would like to ask the Sponsor a question."

"Alright.."

"Representative McCormick."

"Yes, Sir."

"Does this take care of the inflated assessments that are taking place in Areas like Kane County? We have reassessments up there and the reassessments are coming out at a very inflated rate."

"Well, yes. It does it in this way. Ah.. in other words, if you have a reassessment, like we had in Williamson County, we went from, let's say, a hundred million to two hundred million or a hundred and fifty million, it doesn't change the evaluation that they made on the assessment, but it limits the rate that they can extend which makes the same dollars and cents as it was before."

"Thank you very much."

"And, we'll work out another detail or two, I know that it has to be done, as we go along on the Bill."

"I think, that this is a very good piece of Legis- lation."

"Thank you, Sir."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. B. B. Wolfe." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  49.

"Will the gentleman yield for a short question? C. L.,... C. L.,..."

"Yes, Sir."

"Right here.. How come you didn't... How come you didn't talk this way in the Revenue Committee on House Bill 4267?"

"Because,...."

"It would have provided immediate relief in this Area of all home owner residents in the State of Illinois."

"Because, by.. by giving your exemption, by giving your exemption and, I think, like I told you, that three or four or five years from now, that you've got the answer. But by giving your exemption, all you do there, is take it off of the evaluation of the County, but then they'll turn right around and put it back on the other real estate in the County. And, they can't be helped that way. Right now, I think, this is the only way to get to you... to get to your Bill. And, I think, it'll come maybe next in a couple of three years from now."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Juckett, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, is it possible to ask the Sponsor a question?"

"He indicates he'll yield. Ah.. in a Home Rule County, such as Cook, how would this benefit the residents of Cook County?"

"Well ah.. I ah.. am not an authority on GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  50. Home Rule. And, I'm sure this would have nothing to do with a Home Rule County ah.. running a tax on cigarettes, gasoline or anything else. But, it will stop the real estate tax in- crease that you had in Cook County like we have in Johnson County and in every other County in Illinois for two years."

"Well, in other words, it would stop them from raising the real estate tax, but it could not stop them from imposing any conceivable new tax that they might think of, if it were not a real estate tax?"

"This would have nothing to do except with property taxes."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Rayson."

"Mr.... Mr. Speaker, although I'd like to be regaled by the gentleman's wisdom, I.. I don't think we're on Third Reading. And, either we come as the Committee of the Whole or discuss this Bill versally or what. It seems like ah.. we're kind of at limbo."

"No, we're not. The gentleman from Cook Mr. Glass."

"Ah.. will the gentleman yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Ah.. Representative McCormick, ah.. would this freeze the assessed evaluation of ah.. real estate?"

"This freeze would be on the amount of money that the County Clerk can extend for the tax which is a freeze on the rate. Because, if you had your evaluation doubled, you would still have to... your evaluation would simply cut GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  your rate in half."

"Well, I think, it has been reported with some accuracy that there are a number of ah.. buildings in Chicago. which are under assessed. And ah.., would it prevent those from being fairly ah.. ...."

"This.. This.. This Bill would not prevent the assessor or the Supervisor of Assessments from equalizing his County in any way that he legally and could do it accord- ing to the Laws of this State."

"You mean there could... But, there could be no more money raised from real estate taxes that is presently raised?"

"From 1972. That's true."

"Thank you."

"Alright.. Ah.. with leave of the House, ah.. we'll place this ah.. ah.. a matter ah.. before a Commit- tee of the Whole. And, of course, it has to be on the Calendar for a period of two days ah.. Legislative days ah.. before the Committee of the Whole can meet. And ah.., the Minority Leader and I will agree on an appropriate time ah.. for the Committee of the Whole ah.. to ah.. to hear ah.. that item. Committee Reports."

"Ah.. Mr. Rose, from the Committee on Con- stitutional Implementation, to which House Bill 3074 was referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommendation that the Amendments be adopted and that the Bill, as amended, do pass. Mr. Rose, from Consti- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  52. tutional Implementation, to which House Bill 4664 was referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bill do pass. Mr. Rose, from Constitution Implementation, to which Senate Bill 1289 was referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bill do pass. Mr. Randolph, from Revenue, to which Senate Bill 1393 was referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommendation that the Amendments be adopted and that the Bill, as amended, do pass. Mr. Randolph, from Revenue, to which Senate Bill 202 was referred, reported the same 'back with the recommendat tion that the Bill do not pass. Mr. Randolph, from Revenue, to which Senate Bills, 1363, 1524 and 1525 were referred, re- ported the same back with the recommendation that the Bills do pass. Mr. Randolph, from Revenue, to which Senate Bill 1508 was referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommendation that the Amendments be adopted, that the Bill, as amended, do pass and that it be re-referred to Appropriations. Mr. Randolph, from Revenue, to which House Bills 4267 and 4632 were referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommendation that the Amendments be adopted and that the Bills, as amended, do not pass. Mr. Randolph, from the Committee on Revenue, to which House Bill 3801 was referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bill do pass. Mr. Randolph, from Revenue, to which House Bill 4214 was referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommendation that the Amendments be adopted and that the Bill, as amended, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  do pass. Mr. Soderstrom, from Elementary and Secondary, to which Senate Bills 1412, 1422, 1428, 1431, 1455, and 1456 were referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bills do pass. Mr. Soderstrom, from Elementary and Secondary, to which Senate Bill 1504 was referred, reported the same back with Amendments thereto, with the recommenda- tion that the Amendments be adopted and that the Bill, as amended, do pass."

"The ah.. gentleman from ah.. McClain, ah.. Mr.... or from Madison, Mr. McClain."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Assembly, ah.. we're fortunate today to have fifty some odd ah.. students from St. Dominic's School in Quincy, sitting up on the right hand side. And, they're brought here by their Teacher, Mr. Keith and by Mr. Graw, Mrs. Aschenbrenner, Leeson, King, McKay and O'Brien. And, they're from Mr. Lauterbach's District and Mr. Schlisler's District as well as my own. They're up there on the right hand side. And, if they'd stand, we'd like to give them a hand."

"Senate Bills Second Reading. Senate Bill 1385."

"Senate Bills Second Reading. 1385, a Bill for an Act to amend 'The School Code!. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any from the floor? Third Reading. 1386. Wait a minute.."

"Amendment No. 1, ah.. Harold Washington, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  54. amend Senate Bill 1385 in the House on Page 1, Line 15 by striking 'November 11,'; and on Page 1, Line 28 by inserting immediately after the comma the following: 'November 11 (Veteran's Day),'."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Harold Washington."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I think, we can save some time if you'll permit me to ask one question of the Chief Sponsor...."

"Alright.."

"Ah.. Representative Hudson, ah.. are you pre- pared to except this Amendment?"

"Ah.. no, I'm not."

"Ah.. then, Mr. Speaker, I ask leave to table Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 1385."

"Alright.. The gentleman offers to move the adoption of the Amendment and then asks leave to table it. Alright.. Leave being given, the Amendment is tabled. Further Amendments? Third Reading. 1386."

"Senate Bill 1386, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act to designate Veteran's Day as a Holiday. Second Reading of the Bill. We got any over here? No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. Third Reading on 1385 in case I didn't say that. 1387."

"Senate Bill 1387, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to promissory notes. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  55.

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. 1365."

"Senate Bill 1365, a Bill for an Act to amend 'The Counties Act'. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Ah.. these are Senate Bills ah.. on the Calendar."

"Ah.. I'm sorry."

"Now, 1366. Third Reading on 1365. 1366

"Senate Bill 1366, an Act to amend 'The Illinois Municipal Code'. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. 1367."

"Senate Bill 1367, a Bill for an Act to authorize the Department of Revenue to make certain refunds. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any from the floor? Third Reading. Consent Calendar Third Reading."

"Senate Bill....."

"Alright.. Consent Calendar Second Reading.

"Consent Calendar's Second Reading. Senate Bill 14 ah.. 71, an Act to authorize conveyance of certain State land in DuPage County in exchange for certain other lands. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Third Reading. Resolutions. Agreed Resolutions." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  56.

"Ah.. House Resolution 568, Brenne, et.al."

"Alright.. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Resolution 568 creates a Special House Committee ah.. known as the House Developmental Disability Study Committee to study, evalute and make recommendations on improve- ment of services to those individuals who are developed mentally disabled, suffer from mental retardation and cere- bral palsy, etc. I move the adoption of the Agreed ah.. Resolution."

"All those in favor.. All those in favor of the Agreed Resolution say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Agreed Resolution ah.. is adopted. Ah.. Ah.. one Committee Amendment... One Senate Bill on First Reading. Ah.. 1561."

"Senate Bill ah.. First Reading. Ah.. Senate Bill 1561, a Bill for an Act to amend the 'School Code'. First Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from ah.. ah.. Will, Mr. Houlihan."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 1561 is a Bill that provides scholarships for dependents of prisoners of war or those, who are servicemen, who are missing in action. I cleared this with the Majority and the Minority Leaders. And, I would ask that ah.. ask leave of the House to have this.. to have Senate Bill 1561 be moved GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  to Second Reading without reference to a Committee."

"Alright.. Is there ah.. objection? Hearing... No.. No.. This is Senate Bills First Reading ah.. 1561. The gentleman from Will, Mr. Houlihan, is asking that it be advanced without reference. Hearing no objection then the Rule 4la will be suspended and the Bill will be advanced to the order of Second Reading without reference to a Committee. Further Resolutions?"

"Ah.. Resolution ah.. 690, ah.. Caldwell, et.al. Ah.. House Joint Resolution 138, Lindberg."

"Well, do you want to quickly read these Senate Bills first so they can be set, if the Sponsors desire for them to be, next week? 1318."

"Ah.. Senate Bill 1318, an Act in relation to the revision and combination of multiple forms of Laws passed. Ah.. First Reading of the Bill."

"1322."

"Senate Bill 1322, an Act to make an appro- priation for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the University's Civil Service Merit Board. First Reading of the Bill."

"1324."

"1324, an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Civil Defense Agency. Reading of the Bill."

"1330." Fredric B. Selcke: First "Senate Bill 1330, an Act to provide for the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  58. ordinary and contingent expenses of the Industrial Commission. First Reading of the Bill."

"1351."

"Senate Bill 1351, an Act to make an appro- priation for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Judicial Inquiry Board. First Reading of the Bill."

"1534."

"1534, a Bill for an Act to create the Joliet - Marquette Tri-Centennial Commission. First Reading of the Bill."

"1560."

"Senate Bill 1560, an Act to make an appro- priation for certain ordinary and contingent expenses of State Government. First Reading of the Bill."

"1566."

"1566, an Act to make an appropriation to pay a certain amount to State Government. First Reading of the Bill."

"1575."

"1575, and Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Joliet - Marquette Tri-Centen- nial Commission. First Reading of the Bill."

"Resolutions... Further Resolutions? Ah.. the gentleman ah.. from Cook, ah.. Mr. Hyde, on the motion concerning the Rules."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I now move that the provisions of Rule 32c and d ah.. be sus- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  pended to. permit ah.. Committee Hearings on ah.. the remain- ing Bills until June 9th, 1972."

"The gentleman from ah.. Union, Mr. Choate."

"Mr. Speaker, might I ask the Majority Leader one question regarding his motion? As I understand it, Mr. Majority Leader, this is for the purpose of allowing Committee Hearings next week on Senate Bills that is and will be coming over to the House."

"That is correct. Senate 'Bills only."

"And then, Mr. Speaker,...."

"And, Senate Resolutions."

"Right."

"And then, Mr. Speaker, I would like to make this comment. I'm going to agree to the Majority Leader's re- quest, but I would like to make this comment. Yesterday afternoon, a couple of Members of this House advised us that the Senate was not going to extend the Hearing as far as Bills are concerned that originated in the House. I say to you that, in the interest of a feasible operation of this Legislative Body and in the interest of certain Senate Bills being heard that could otherwise not be heard, I am going to agree with the Majority Leader, as I previously stated. However, I would suggest that the Leadership, especially the Speaker and My- self, consult with the Senate when they do convene on Tuesday and, or Monday, whichever the case may be, to see that the Senate is equally going to treat House-sponsored Legislation GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  60. in the manner in which we are treating Senate-sponsored Legis- lation."

"Alright.. The question is on the gentle- man's motion to suspend the provisions of Rule 32c and d. Well, let's take a Roll Call on this. All those in favor will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. Until June 9th.. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 128 'Ayes' and 9 'Nays' and the Rule ah.. ... The gentleman's motion prevails. The Rule ah.. is ah.. ah.. suspended to the date indicated. One further adjournment ah.. the ah.. the Adjournment Resolu- tion which hasn't started. While we're getting that ready, the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Regner."

"Ah.. Mr... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd like to ask unanimous consent for the sus- pension of Rule 17 which is a seven day posting notice so that the Appropriations Committee can post notices for next Wednesday and Thursday."

"Alright.. Does the gentleman have leave ah.. for the purposes of ah.. suspending Rule 17 so that ah.. those matters ah.. to which he refers ah.. have been.... Yes.. The gentleman from Boone, Mr. Cunningham."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I would like to have leave for the... to suspend the same ah.. Rule so that we might hear a couple of Senate Bills next week."

"Alright.. Ah.. does the gentleman ah.. have leave for that purpose? Alright.. That's been done. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  61. It might be well, with these ah.. items that are on the Calendar for Conservation and Water Resources for Judiciary I and Judiciary II, that ah.., in case there's any question about ah.. the ah.. notice time for those, that ah.. that be suspended ah.., Mr. ah.. Hyde."

"Mr. Speaker, I think, ah.. specifically, as ah.. one of the ah.. vigorous opponents of the Equal Rights Amend+ ment, I do think that the Rule ought to be suspended so that it can properly be heard Tuesday in Judiciary. And, I know that Mr. McDevitt was going to make that motion. He has a very bad cold. So ah.., may we consider that he has made that motion on behalf of the ah.. Equal Rights Amendmert, what- ever the number is?"

"Let's see..."

"S.J.R. *62, I'm told."

"Alright.. And, Judiciary II, H.R. 331, Mr. Lindberg... You have? Ah.. good. And ah..,"

"He did that yesterday."

"And, Conservation and Water Resources on 1335 and 1420. Alright.. Ah.. does the gentleman... the gentleman have leave to suspend 17 so that there's no techni- cal question with regard to the notice for those matters to be heard? Hearing no objection, then leave will be granted and we will suspend it for the purposes indicated. Now, the Clerk will read the Adjournment Resolution."

"House Joint Resolution *139, Hyde, RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SEVENTY-SEVENTH GENERAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  62. ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE SENATE CONCURRING HERE- IN, that when the House adjourns on Friday, June 2, 1972, it stands adjourned until Tuesday, June 6, 1972 at 11:00 O'CLOCK A.M., and when the Senate adjourns Friday, June 2, 1972, it stand adjourned until Monday, June 5, 1972 at 12:00 O'CLOCK NOON."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is the Adjournment Resolution. And, for our purposes, it means that we will be back in at 11:00 A.M. on Tuesday, ah.. June 6th. Ah.. I now move adoption of ah.. concurrence in ah.. or adoption of House Joint Resolution *139."

"Alright.. All those in favor of the gentleman's motion say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Adjournment Resolution is adopted. Alright.. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"I now move, Mr. Speaker, that the House do stand adjourned until the hour of 11:00 A.M. on Tuesday."

"All those in favor of the motion say 'aye', opposed 'no', the House stands adjourned until 11:00 A.M. on Tuesday." ADJOURNMENT AT 11:18 O'CLOCK Α.Μ. 6/2/72 mes. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES