Illinois House Floor Debate — June 6, 1972

"Those who are not entitled to the Chamber, will you please retire to the Gallery? Thank you."

"Alright.. The Doorkeeper will see that those persons, who are not entitled to the floor, are re- moved therefrom. The invocation ah.. will be by a visiting clergy today and will be introduced by Dr. Johnson."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, the invocation will be given this morning by Rabbi David Graubart, who is the presiding Rabbi of the Bet Din, Ecclesiastical Court for Conservative Judaism stationed in Chicago. Rabbi Graubart."

"Heavenly Father, pour out Thy grace on this great Assemblage of Thy dedicated servants gathered here today to seek the welfare of our great State and to imple- ment in Law the Democratic ideas upon which this commonwealth rests. May Thy indwelling presence be manifest in all their deliberations to the end that they may gall from strength to strength in Thy service. We pray that the Representatives bear in mind the words of the solemnist. If the Lord shall not build a house, in vain have those that built it toiled therein. If the Lord shalt not guard a City, in vain has its guardians spirit. May Thy glory dwell in their deliberations. Amen."

"Roll Call for Attendance. The gentleman from ah.. Cook, ah.. Capuzi."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, will you let the Journal show that Representative Granata is absent because of a death in GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  the family?"

"The Journal will so indicate. The gentle- man from Union, Mr. Choate."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, please let the record show that the reason for absenteeism by several Members on this side of the aisle is because of weather conditions ah.. fly- ing from Chicago to the Capitol City and they're being held up on that basis. And, Representative McDermott is absent because of illness."

"Messages from the Senate."

"Messages from the Senate. A Messages ah.. Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has passed a Bill of the following title, in the passage of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House. Senate Bill 1590. Passed by the Senate, June 5, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Representatives in the passage of a Bill of the following title. House Bill 4123, together with the following Amendment in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House. Passed the Senate, as amended, June 5, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Representatives in the passage of a Bill of the following title. House Bill 4282. Together with the following Amendment in the adoption 3. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  ructed to ask concurrence of the House. as amended, June 5, 1972. Kenneth Wright, aker - I am directed to inform the House that the Senate has concurred with the tatives in the passage of a Bill of the House Bill 4353. Together with the follow- the adoption of which I am instructed to the House. Passed the Senate, as amended, neth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - inform the House of Representatives that the 11 red with the House of Representatives in the 1.11 of the following title. House Bill 4577. following Amendments in the adoption of d to ask the concurrence of the House. as amended, June 5, 1972. Kenneth Wright, aker - I am directed to inform the House that the Senate has concurred with the of Bills of the following title. House 1, 4354, 4366, 4456. Passed the Senate, June 5, right, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed of Representatives that the Senate has House in the adoption of the following House Joint Resolution 139. Concurred in 2, 1972, Kenneth Wright, Secretary. directed to inform the House of Representa- has passed Bills of the following title which I am instructed to ask the concurrence GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  of the House. Senate Bills 1320, 1329, 1331, 1398, 1418, 1576, 1596. Passed the Senate, June 2, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Representatives in the passage of a Bill of the following title. House Bill 2472. Together with the follow- ing Amendment in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House. Passed the Senate, as amended, June 2, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in the passage of a Bill of the following title. House Bill 4361. Together with the following Amendment in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House. Passed the Senate, as amended, June 2, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolution in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives. Senate Joint Resolution 76. Adopted by the Senate, June 2, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secre- tary. Ah.. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in the passage of a Bill of the following titles. House Bills 4142, 4143, 4296, 4315, 4326, 4371, 4385 and 4484. Passed the Senate, June 2, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker - I am directed to inform the House of Repre- sentatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  the following Joint Resolution. House Joint Resolution 137. Concurred in by the Senate, June 2, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Ah.. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolution in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House. Senate Joint Resolution 79. Adopted by the Senate, June 6, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. No further Messages."

"House Bills Second Reading. House Bill 4096."

"House Bill 4096, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation for the expenses of the Department of Personnel. Second Reading of the Bill. Two Committee Amend+ ments. Committee Amendment No. 1, amend House Bill 4096 on Page 3 by striking Lines 21 through 26 andsoforth."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik.".

"I move for the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1."

"Is there discussion? The ques... The question is on the adoption of ah... The gentleman from ah. Cook, Mr. Richard Walsh."

"I wonder if the gentleman might explain the Amend- ment?"

"Alright.. The ah.. gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik."

"Ah.. Amendment No. 1 permits the Department of Personnel ah.. to pay Workmen's Compensation when the claim GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  is less than $100 without going through the Public Health and the Attorney General's Office."

"Any further discussion? The question is on the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Committee Amendment is adopted."

"Ah.. Committee Amendment No. 2, amend House Bill 4096 on Page 1, Section I, Line 11, by striking $4,782, 000 and inserting in lieu thereof $4,717,000 andsoforth."

"The gentle.... The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik."

"I move for the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 2. This is an agreed Amendment that would reduce the appropriation of the Department of Personnel."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Richard Walsh."

"Ah.. What's the amount of the reduction?"

"The gentleman... The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik."

"I didn't hear the question ah.., Dick. Did you ask what the ah.. amount of reduction was?"

"Yes."

"Approximately a million and a half dollars."

"Joe, is that from General Revenue?"

"You asked if that was General Revenue?"

"Yes."

"It was both from ah.. ah.. the General Revenue GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  and also from the Road Fund."

"I.. I missed the last.. From General Revenue and what's the other Fund?"

"I can't hear what you're saying, Dick."

"You.. You said it's partially from General Revenue and what other Fund is it?"

"Road Fund."

"Thank you."

"Alright.. The question is on the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 2. All those in favor of the adoption of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendment? Third Reading. 4103."

"House Bill 4103, a Bill for an Act to pro- vide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Legislative Investigating Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. 4422."

"House Bill 4422, a Bill for an Act to amend 'The School Code'. Second Reading of the Bill. Two Committee Amendments. Committee Amendment No. 1, amend House Bill 4422, on Page 1, beginning on Line 10, by striking 'teachers certi- fied pursuant to Section 21-1 of this Act andsoforth'."

"The gentleman from Cook, ah.. Mr. Telcser."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment No. 1, was a clarifying Amendment. The GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  language wasn't clear in the original Bill and I move for the adoption of Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 4422."

"Discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there...."

"Ah.. Committee Amendment No. 2, amend House Bill 4422, on Page 1, by inserting after Line 23 the follow- ing: 'Certified teacher's andsoforth'.".

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Telcser."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment No. 2 was an Amendments suggested by Repre- sentative Berman which would provide that those students, who ah.. do take part in the scholarship program and go to school and teach in their school District for two years. And, in the event they don't, there's ah.. they do not, there is a payback provision with interest to the State. I now move that Amendment No. 2, to House Bill 4422, be adopted."

"The gentleman.... Ah.. discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 4083."

"House Bill 4083, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation for the expenses of the Department of Aeronautics. Second Reading of the Bill."

"Hold it. Take.. Take that one out of GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  record. 4084." 10.

"House Bill 4084, a Bill for an Act to pro- vide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Commerce Commission. Second Reading of the Bill. Ah.. One Committee Amendment. Amend House Bill 4084 on Page 1, Sec- tion II, Line 27, by deleting $1,773,200 and inserting in lieu thereof $1,746,200'; andsoforth."

"The gentleman from ah.. Lake, Mr. Conolly."

"Move the.. Mr. Chair... Mr. Speaker, move the adoption of Committee Amendment."

"The gentle man from Bureau, Mr. Barry."

"Would you explain what it does, John? And, if you can, furnish us with a copy of it, please?"

"This is... This is a Committee Amendment that you people, I thought, had been furnished. Ah.. it cuts $28,000 out of personal services and retirement and takes care of the employee at work."

"Thank you."

"Any further discussion? The question is on the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 4135."

"House Bill 4135, a Bill for an Act to pro-- vide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Depart- ment of Registration and Education. Second Reading of the Bill. Two Committee Amendments. Committee Amendment No. 1, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  amend House Bill 4...."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Wall."

"Move the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1, Mr. Chair... Mr. Speaker."

"Is there ah.. discussion? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was wondering if the Sponsor would explain those as was requested earlier?"

"Mr. Speaker, Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 4135, deletes the amount of '$113,000' which was appropriated for the inspection of Paid Pharmacy Inspectors. $84,000 of that money was for the Inspectors and the other money up to $113, 000 was for the Retirement System, Social Security, Contract+ ual services and travel. I move its adoption, Mr. Speaker."

"Any ah.. further discussion? The ques- tion is on the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?

"Ah.. Committee Amendment No. 2, amend House Bill 4135, as amended, on Page 2, Section I, Line 20 by striking $595,300 and inserting in lieu thereof '$592,800'; andsoforth."

"The ah.. gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Wall."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment No. 2, to House Bill 4135, ah.. cuts the appropria- tion by $50,000. I move its adoption." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  Hon. W. Robert Blair: "Any discussion? Alright.. 12. The question is on the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 2. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Simmons.

"On these Amendments, 1 and 2, ah.. there seems to be a conflict. On Page 3, Section I, Line 9, both Amend- ment No. 1 and 2 are dealing with the same subject. Now, I. I believe that No. 2 says, 'as amended'. Is that correct?"

"Third Reading. 4... 4252."

"House Bill 4252, a Bill for an Act to pro- vide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Secretary、 of State. Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amend- ment. Amend House Bill 4252 on Page...."

"The gentleman ah.. from ah.. Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Mr. Speaker... Mr. Speaker, I believe, that's Representative Philip, not me."

"Oh! Well, he's not here. Take it out of the record. 4452."

"House Bill..."

"Wait.. Wait a minute. Take that out of the record. 4457."

"House Bill 4457, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Environmental Protection Agency. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any from the floor?"

"Amendment No. 1, Barry, amend House Bill GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  13. 4457 on Page 1, Line 27, by deleting the period and inserting in lieu thereof, andsoforth."

"The gentleman from ah.. Bureau, Mr. Barry."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is an Agreed Amendment on the Grant Appropriation Bill to E.P.A. It's agreed by ah.. Bill Blazier and ah.. Mr. Hyde ah.. through his Staff. Very simply, it makes it very clear that the E.P.A. may allow for grants to landfill opera- tions as well as to ah.. water pollution control operations of various sorts in adiition. And, we also have a savings clause. And, I recommend its adoption."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.. the distinguished gentleman from ah.. Ladd, Bureau County, is quite right. It's an Agreed Amendment and it does improve the Bill. And, I join him in moving for its adoption."

"The gentleman from ah.. Macon, Mr. Borchers."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Sponsor a ques- tion of Repre... of Representative Barry. Ah.. do I under- stand that this includes for municipalities or townships ah.. grants for ah.. lo.. local landfill planning, etc.?"

"The gentleman from Bureau, Mr. Barry."

"Yes, that's right. That's exactly what it does and it makes the Law very clear in the Grant Appropriation Bureau." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  W. Borchers: "Ah.. I might ah.. might say that ah.. something like this ah.., where the ah.. problems are arising in rela- tion to the recovery of land for cities and municipalities, that ah.., if this is judiciously used, it would be an excel- lent thing."

"Further discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye' opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 4540."

"House Bill 4540, a Bill for an Act in rela- tion to the computerization of the computation billing of advalorem property taxes and make an appropriation in connec- tion therewith. Second...."

"The gent... The gentleman from Macoupin, Mr. Bartulis."

"One Committee Amendment."

"Read the Amendment. Ah.. the gentleman from Macoupin, Mr. Bartulis, on 4540. There's a Committee Amendment. Committee Amendment. Move the adoption of the Committee Amendment?"

"Move to adopt."

"Alright.. The gentleman moves the adoption of the... adoption of the Amendment. Is there discus- sion? All those in favor of the adoption of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendments are adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 4622." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  15.

"House Bill 4622, a. Bill for an Act to author- ize the Director of the Department of Transportation to de- sign and construct flood control drainage and pertinent im- provement in and along Rat Run Creek at Seneca in Lasalle County and to make an appropriation therefor. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. 4626."

"House Bill 4626, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Department of Conservation for the repair and preservation of the Jubilee College State Memorial in Peoria County. Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amendment. Amend House Bill 4626 on Page 1, Section I, Line 6, by striking $45,575 and inserting in lieu thereof '$35,575'."

"The gentleman from ah.. Peoria, Mr. Tuerk."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, this Committee Amendment reduces the appropriation by $10,000. And, I move for its adoption."

"Discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 4630."

"House Bill 4630, a Bill for an Act to pro- vide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Commission on Inter-Governmental cooperation. Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amendment. Amend House Bil1 GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  4630 on Page 1, by deleting Line 11 and inserting in lieu 16. thereof. the following: 'For Personal Services - $34,289.... For Contribution - $2,083.... For State Contribution to Social Security - $1,686'."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. William Walsh."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, Committee Amendment No. 1 simply ah.. adds a line for each of the two State Retirement Systems. Does not increase the appropria- tion. I move the adoption of the Amendment."

"Is there discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye' opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 4641."

"House Bill 4641, a Bill for an Act to pro- vide for the engineering studies and planning of the Capitol City Railroad Relocation Authority. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any ah.. Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. 4647."

"House Bill 4647, a. Bill for an Act to make an appropriation for the refund of Motor Fuel Tax payments, andsoforth. Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amend- ment. Amend House Bill 4647, on Page 1, in Section I, on Line 23 immediately after the word 'Revenue', by inserting the following: 'From Motor Fuel: Tax Fund'."

"The gentleman from Boone, ah.. Mr. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  17. Cunningham. The gentleman from Boone, Mr. Cunningham. The gentleman from Boone, Mr. Cunningham."

"Move it."

"On ah.. Committee Amendment No. 1."

"Mr. Speaker, I move for ah.. adoption of Commit- tee Amendment No. 1."

"Is there discussion? All those in favor of the adoption of the Amendment say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 46... Take it out of the record. 4662."

"House Bill 4662, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Collinsville Chamber of Commerce. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any from the floor? Third Reading. 4244."

"House Bill 4244, a Bill for an Act to author- ize the Secretary of State to issue identification cards and to make an appropriation in connection therewith. Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amendment. Amend House Bill 4244 on Page 1, Line 2 by striking 'and to make an appropriation in connection'; andsoforth."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Merlo."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, Committee Amendment No. 1 deletes the appropriation to House Bill 4244. It was brought to the attention of the Secretary of State that a Constitutional question could arise in the fact that a GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  18. substantive change such as that which will take place if the Illinois Identification Act is passed can not be accompanied by an appropriation. I move the adoption of the Amendment."

"Discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye,, opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and.. and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?".

"Amendment No. 2, Merlo, amend House Bill 4244 on Page 1, Line 28, by deleting the figure '4' and inserting in lieu thereof the figure '6'; andsoforth."

"The gentl....."

"Amendment No. 2 merely increases the number of years that the Secretary of State would keep the records of the applicants, from four to six years. It also provides that a photo of the applicant will be imprinted on the identifica- tion card. And, Mr. Speaker, I move the adoption of Amend- ment No. 2."

"Is there discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor will say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. 4669."

"House Bill 4669, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Secretary of State. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. 4252." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  1.9.

"House Bill 4252, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation to the Secretary of State. Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amendment. Amend House Bill 4252 on Page 5, by striking Line 19 and on Page 5, Lines 21 and 24, by striking the words 'ordinary and contingent'; andso- forth."

"The ah.. gentleman from ah.. DuPage, Mr. Philip. The gentleman from ah.. DuPage, Mr. Philip."

"Yeah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 4252, ah.. simply strikes out the words 'ordinary and contingent'. It has been... We've had a disagreement on this before and it has been worked out with the Democratic Leadership on the other side of the aisle. I move the adoption of Amendment No. 1, to 42... House Bill 4252."

"Okay.. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea."

"Mr. Speaker, I think, he's explaining Amendment No. 2. And, Amendment No. 1 ah.. is a little bit different. Maybe you ought to try explaining that one."

"Excuse me, Mr. Speaker. He is correct. Amendment No. 1 deletes the 'job titles' to allow the Bill to conform with the ah.. Personnel Code'. I move the adoption of Amend- ment No. 1, to House Bill 4252."

"Well, the Clerk only has ah.. the one Amendment here, the Amendment that was offered and adopted h.. in the Appropriations Committee by Representative ah.. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  Collins. Yes, ha..huh.. The Amendment that's attached to the Bill was put on in the Appropriations Committee by Repre- sentative Collins. Now, is there... is that the Amendment that the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea, is addressing his remarks to?"

"Mr. Speaker, Amendment No. 1 struck about the last four or five pages of the Bill. Now, is there an Amendment No. 2?"

"Well,... Well, that's right ah.. It would appear that ah.. nine through thirteen has the entire pages removed by deleting all of the lines. Now, that's the only Amendment that we have up here."

"Yeah, Mr. Speaker. There is another Amendment."

"Alright.. That must be a floor Amend- ment then. On.. On the first Amendment then, is there any question about ah.. that? Alright.. Alright.. Ah.. it' has been suggest that, perhaps, we ought to take it out of the record for the moment. And ah.., see if we can't ah.. ah.. square that up. 4373."

"House Bill 4373, a Bill for an Act to make an appropriation for an investigation of Peoria Lake in Tazewall County. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. 3761."

"House Bill 3761, a Bill for an Act to pro- vide for the nomination and election of Judges to repeal GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  21. part of an Act herein named. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any from the floor?"

"Amendment No. 1, Burditt, amend House Bill 3761 on Page 1, Line 25,....."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Burditt."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is a Bill to provide for the non-partisan elec- tion of Judges. The purpose of this Amendment is to provide for an election in 1972 in August so that the Bill will be exactly the same as Senator Partee's Bill, except that this is a non-partisan election and his is a partisan election. I move the adoption of the Amendment."

"All those in.. Ah.. is there discussion? The question is on the adoption of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? Third Reading. The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Shea."

"Mr. Speaker, would.. with the addition of this Amendment in a special primary, I'm sure it's going to cost a few dollars. So, I would request the Sponsor to file a fiscal note."

"Well, I'd already advanced the Bill to Third Reading."

"I'm still requesting a fiscal note."

"Well, what Rule are you citing ah.. for your request?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  22.

"Under Rule 42, Mr. Speaker. And, under the Applica- ble Statues of the General Assembly."

"Well, I.. I don't think you're under the Rule that you're quoting. It says that, 'in the event that a fiscal note has been requested, a Bill shall be held on the order of Second Reading until the fiscal note has been supplied'. Then, of course, I.. as I indicated, I had advanced the Bill to Third Reading."

"Well,...."

"Wait a minute. To Third Reading before you made the request. So, on.. on that question, I would ah.. rule ah.. that your point is not well taken. I've been advised, however, by the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Burditt, that he would be happy to furnish you with a fiscal note."

"Thank you."

"You're welcome. Ah.. House Bills Third Reading. Now, in order... The gentle man from Union, Mr... Ah.. in order to ah.. quite things down, hopefully, on the floor, the Minority Leader and I have been discussing the fact that there appear to be persons on the floor ah.. that are not entitled to be there. So, we'll ask the Doorkeeper now to see that those persons, who are not entitled to the floor, are removed therefrom. And, to continue ah.. with that, not only with the balance of the Session today, but the rest of the Session. And, by 'Authorized Persons', we mean those that are authorized under the Rules to be on the floor Ah.. the rest ah.. should not be on the floor. For what pur- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF. ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  pose does the gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Richard Walsh, rise?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, on that point, ah.. truly the floor of the House can be confusing at times. And, it seems to me that the Pages, passing out literature, ah.. adds to the confusion. And, I just had passed out to me ah.. some- thing which bears ah.. no origin, 'Legislator's Act Scare Him', apparently, from some Newspaper. I don't even know what. And, I just wonder if ah.. ah.. if possibly, we can have some control over the material that the Pages are con- stantly passing out to us while the House is in Session?"

"Ah.. your point is well taken. And ah. the Pages are not supposed to be ah.. ah.. placing things on the desks ah.. that have not been cleared. And, ask the Clerk to see that ah.. the Pages do not ah.. hereafter-ah.. put out anything on the desks without prior clearance. Ah.. 4087."

"House Bill 4087, an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Illinois Arts Council. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Ah.. the gentleman from ah.. Lake, ah.. Mr. ah.. John ah.. Henry Kleine."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is the annual appropriation for the Council. I know of ah.. It's the same.... The appropriation is the same as it was the year before. I know of no objection and I ask your favorable support." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  24.

"Is there discussion? The gentleman from McLean, ah.. Mr. ah.. The gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mcclain."

"Will the gentleman yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Ah.. here ah.., John, where you talk about appro- priating money for grants, salaries and contractual agree- ments and other necessary payments. Now, how about ah.. the portion for salaries? Has that gone up?"

"Ah.. no, it hasn't. The ah.. is the same as ah.. The appropriation is the same as it was last year."

"Well ah.., I didn't support it last time and I won't support it again."

"Any further discussion? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, it's no secret that I've been ah.. an opponent of the Arts Council ah.. ever since I've been a Member of this House. And, this year, I was rather inclined to go along with ah.. the appropriation. But ah.., things have come up recently that have disturbed me somewhat. And, I wonder if the Sponsor would yield ah.. to ah.. a couple questions?"

"He indicates he will."

"Ah.. John Henry, ah.. there was an Article in one of the Chicago Newspapers on Saturday, reporting on the last Meeting, and I understand that there was some debate ah.. concerning the Mississippi River Festival. And ah.., GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  25. And ah.. ah.. vote on how much money would be ah.. expended on that project. Could you tell us ah.. ah.. just what was the amount ah.. appropriated and.. and ah.. and what was the vote ah.. taken in the Council?"

"Ah.. Representative Collins, I am not aware of that Article. I would suggest though that ah.. in Committee and in the debate that ah.. it was indicated to me and, I believe, to you too, that no money was.. was being directly appropriated, State Funds, for that particular ah.. Festival. This probably comes through Private and Federal Grants."

"Ah.. I.. I'm not sure that your right on.. on that. But, what was indicated to us in Committee, you're absolutely right. Now, furthermore, there was ah.. some discussion as to accepting invitations from Europe and the Far East to send the Free Street Theatre Project ah.. over there. Now, while I may ah.. agree that this would be a good place to put it, I wonder if it's proper to ah.. send Illinois Funds to ah.. Europe ah.. ah.. and Asia for Free Street Theatre. Were you.. Are you familiar with this por- tion of the ah.. of ah.. the last Meeting?"

"Ah.. Representative Collins, ah.. there's no indication, at this time, that any State money would be used for that purpose."

"Ah.. what money is going to be used for that or ah.. is it ah.. is there any ah.. Do you know what money is going to be used on it?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  26.

"I.. I would suggest that it's probably the Federal ah.. State Deparment's money. You remember the ah.. the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, who went ah.. to Europe last year, was. ah.. a tremendous success for the State of Illinois. And ah.., provided this State with a fine reputa- tion of a fine Organization."

"Well, I.. I'm just going over the minutes of the Meeting. And ah.., well, I wanted to do everything I could to help the ah.. the Council this year because, I thought, that they were proceeding in the proper direction. And then, something like European trips for ah.. ah.. ah.., something like the Free Street Theatre, is a questionable value ah.. even in the State. And then, ah.. to send it ah. across a couple of Oceans, I certainly can't support that. And, I'm looking at the minutes where the move was made to expend the money to the Mississippi River Festival. And, it's ah.. There's no qualification as to whether it's State or Federal Funds. I ah.. I think, again, we're ah.. we're get- ting into a breakdown of communications in this Agency. And ah.. ah.., again, I guess I'll have to.. to ah.. ah.. remain consistent and urge the Members of ah.. the House to ah.. to reject this ah.. ah.. this appropriation again. Ah.. ah.. the first thing we know, we'll be sending Mr. Oehmishino over to ah.. paint subway in Tokeyo and, perhaps, that's where he should be, but not at our expense. And, I would ask for a 'no' vote on this appropriation."

"Further discussion? The ah.. gentleman GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  27. from ah.. Alright.. Th The gentleman from Lake, Mr. Kleine, to close."

"Mr. Speaker, I ask your favorable consideration on this very fine piece of Legislation."

"Alright.. The question is, 'shall House Bill 4087 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. The gentleman from Macon, Mr. Borchers."

"Mr. Speaker and Gentlemen of the House, in ex- plaining my 'no' vote, I just merely want to point out that this is one of the finest boondoggling project that we are supporting. And, I think, it's time to draw part of it to a close."

"The ah.. gentleman from St. Clair, Mr. Flinn."

"Mr. Speaker, in explaining my vote, I think, that this Bill should pass. They do some very fine work. Now, I don't know what happens to all of the money. In fact, I don't know what happens to all of the money in any of the appro- priations that we have here. But, without this, we would not have the Mississippi River Festival down in my District. And, it's a very fine thing. It's... It's something that we really need down there. And, I.. I strongly support this and ask that you give us a 'yes' vote."

"The ah.. gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. J. J. Wolf."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I have to, once more, join my Colleague, Phil Collins, in opposing GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  28. this Bill. We've seen this thing grow from a biennial appro- priation of $150,000. Now, it's $600,000 a year. And, all it seems to do is provide the employment for some of the so-called Art people that couldn't find a job on the open. market. And, I'm going to oppose it now and urge my Colleagues to vote against this Bill."

"The gentleman from Livingston, ah.. Mr. Hunsicker."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I have to agree with the previous Speaker. I can re- member... If my memory serves me correctly, when the first appropriation to the Illinois Art Council was made about eight or ten years ago, it was $60,000. And now, it has increased to $600,000. And, it appears to me that this money could be used far better in other areas of the State than for this particular purpose. And, I vote 'no'."

"The gentleman from ah.. Christian, Mr. Tipsword."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, due to the fact that we are in an economic crisis and that we need money for the public schools, we need money for highways, for transportation and for so many other things, and all of us would like to see the expenses of the State of Illinois as well as our Local Governments cut. While I am... I re.. I would regret very much if the Arts were to suffer tremendcus- ly. It appears to me that this is one area in which we.. we could save a lot of money. It also appears to me that.... GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  I don't want to be ah.. in opposition to the promotion of the Arts. And so, consequently, in that dilemma, I would be asked... I would ask the Speaker that I might be recorded as voting 'present' on this Bill."

"Tipsword.. 'present'. The gentleman from ah.. McLean, Mr. Hall." Н. Н. Hall: "Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House the reason that I'm voting against this Bill is that, in talking about the purposes of the Arts Council, it was testified in Committee, by the people who ah.. operate the Arts Council, that the purpose of the State donations was as a seed fund ah.. for the encouragement of private donations in operating the Arts Council in conjunction with private donors, philan- thropic organizations. Further questioning, brought out the fact that less than $80,000 total is contributed outside of ah.. taxpayer funds for the operation of the Council. That is, to say, six years ago or five years ago, when I first voted on this measure, the State appropriation was $50,000. Today we're going to, apparently, appropriate $600,000 while pri- vate sources are withdrawing their funds because the Govern- ment has gotten into this business. Now, this is a ridiculous trend. When... When they had money privately to support the Arts, people who wanted to were supporting the Arts and had the money and could afford it. Now, we're putting it on the backs of the taxpayers. So, consequently, the private funds dry up and no longer care to ah.. ah. to support the ah.. idea in concept. So, I would suggest we ah.. ah.. vote a- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  gainst this. and either lower the amount of the appropriations or make them find matching funds as they had promised to do when they ah.. ah.. first started this."

"The gentleman from ah.. DuPage, Mr. Hudson."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I am reminded of Abraham Lincoln's admonition to the people at one time in which he said that, 'government should only do those things for the people which they can not do at all or can not do as well for themselves'. I think, this is ah. represents ah.. this appropriation, ah.. represents State intervention and State donation of taxpayers money in an area that can be best handled by the people themselves. I am certainly not opposed to the Arts or to the development of the Arts. But, I think, here is an area clearly that can be supported by private concerns, private individuals and right- fully so and keep this off the back of the taxpayers. And, if we won't draw a line on these kind of appropriations, and on these kind of expenditures, then where in heaven's name will we draw the line? I would urge a vote 'no'."

"The ah.. gentleman from Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, ah.. in explaining my vote, ah.. Representative Flinn, quite correctly, pointed out that the Mississippi Festival has been ah.. quite ah.. ah.. ah.. an accomplisment for that area of the State. However, I would point out to the Members of the House that this money, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  that we're talking about in the Arts Council, is not the only money that has been pumped in ah.. ah.. into this so-called Festival. This is the, also the.. the same ah.. endeavor where Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville, with unconscionable disregard for the Legislative process, secretly put $250,000 into this effort. I.. I think, that this is something that we should take a very good, long look at. And, I think, it's all the more reason why we ah.. should today reject ah.. House Bill 4087."

"The gentleman from Madison, Mr. Calvo."

"Mr. Speaker, in brief reply to the learned gentle- man's last speaker's remarks. The Mississippi River Festival is supported primarily by the people of the Area, not in just buying tickets and going to the Festival, but in contributions. The contribution that we get from the Arts Council we're very appreciative of because without it, we couldn't have the Festival. But, we do more than match it with local funds from individuals to contribute. And, it is these people, and there are a few people, of course, that are wealthy enough to contribute to something like this, but it is those people that are keeping this going and they are matching the funds contributed by the Arts Council, in reply to another gentle- man's criticism of the Council. I would urge your support of this measure, not just for the Mississippi River Festival, which is a very fine thing and it attracts several hundred thousand people to our Area to see these programs during the summer, but also in support of the entire programs of the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  32. Arts Council. If we can't have a little culture in this State for these few dollars, then, I think, we're in pretty bad shape. And, I would appreciate some more 'green' lights. Thank you."

"Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will... The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 'Ayes', and 43 'Nays' and 1 'Present'. And, this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is here- by declared passed. 4448."

"House Bill 4448, an Act to amend the 'Public Junior College Act'. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The ah.. gentleman from Lee, Mr. Shapiro."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, ah.. I have no aversion to calling the Bill, but it is a companion Bill to the Appro- priation. And, more than likely, they should be heard to- gether."

"Alright.. Ah.. let's take it out of the record. Senate Bills Second Reading. 1373."

"Senate Bill 1373, an Act to authorize the sale and conveyance of certain State-owned land situated in Lake County. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amend- ments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. On the order of Speaker's Table, appears House Bill 4680. And ah.., leave was obtained last week to ah.. have that matter set in a Committee of the Whole. And, I agreed with the Minority Leader that that will be on this Thursday CENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  33. at 11:00 Α.Μ. A Committee of the Whole, on House Bill 4680, on this Thursday at 11:00 A.M. Also, on the Speaker's Table, appears House Resolution 4.. 456."

"Ah.. House Resolution 456,...."

"The gentleman from Cook, ah.. Mr. Ron Hoffman."

"House Resolution 456 creates a special committee, composed of eight Members of the House, to study the Divorce Laws of Illinois and the existing practices and the ethical behavior of those purchased bidding and litigation in Divorce. This is the result of a growing demand, through the news media and the people of Illinois, for more equitable treatment of those involved in litigation. This Committee is not a proponent of Divorce in any manner. It's just to create an ethical manner ah.. to be treated for the litigants in reference to the Attorneys and Judiciary in handling these cases. This was passed from Judiciary I with no dissenting votes. And, I urge the adoption of the House."

"The gentleman ah.. from Cook, Mr. Rayson."

"Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield to a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"Ah.. I.. I was just passed a sheet which indicates ah.. that maybe there's an Amendment to include the study of existing Divorce Laws and the effects they have on Divorce Prac.. Operations. So, I take it that that's embodied now in this Resolution?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  R. K. Hoffman: "No, it isn't, Representative. The Resolution, that you're referring to, was passed by the Young Lawyer's Association of the Chicago Bar. Association. And, they felt that, not only should this Resolution be adopted and this Committee be formed, that it should be more encompassing. However, the Resolution has not been altered and remains as it has been presented."

"Ah.. Well, again, according to this sheet, which indicates that it might have merit to include the Study of Divorce Laws, would you be willing to accept an Amendment to this same purpose?"

"At this time, we.. we certainly would accept an Amendment to adopt. However, we feel that the thrust of this is to create the Committee to launch this type of con- cept and investigation. And, thereby, with their findings, if they would warrant so and the reporting date of 1973, we could possibly bring this ah.. concept into the proposal.

"Well, I.. I think, some of us would support this Resolution if you would accept that Amendment and if you would hold this so that this Amendment could be prepared. I think it would help ah.. the Resolution and it would ah.. have a solitary affect on the purpose of this Resolution."

"The ah.. gentleman from ah.. ah.. Mr. ah.. James Y. Carter."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I hardly concur with the last Speaker. The fact that our Laws force Lawyers into perjury and into other Acts. In order to conform to our present GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  Laws, means that these here Laws need to be changed. Now, if they will amend this to say that there should be the thrust of it.. of the present Divorce Laws to bring them into conformity with some of the things that go on in the practice of Law, I'd be glad to vote for it. But, not in its present form. Thank You."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Epton."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I wonder if you could give me your attention for just a moment. I think, that Representative Hoffman has introduced a Resolution which has considerably more merit than many of us may believe. As a matter of fact, when this Resolution came up before the Judiciary Committee, a representative of the Illinois-Chicago Bar Association appeared in front of us and informed us that we had no right to pass this Resolu- tion. He indicated that the House of Representatives had no authority. This gentleman, representing the Chicago-Illinois State Bar Association, advised us that this House of Repre- sentatives had no authority to investigate the unethical practices of any Attorney. As a Lawyer, I resented his re- marks. And, as a member of both Associations, I think, he was completely in error. As a matter of fact, it would appear that even the Chicago Bar Association doesn't know exactly what's going on in its own house because its younger member's committee did initially support this. Now, to suggest at this time an Amendment be put forth to investigate Divorce Laws simply means that, if the Laws are not proper, Lawyers, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  36. particularly in Cook County, have a right to be corrupt. I think, that it's a silly petition of any Member of the Bar to suggest that, because the Law is inept or inadequate, that we have a right to go beyond it. There are corrupt Lawyers practicing in the City of Chicago. There are corrupt Lawyers in the Divorce Field. And, this Resolution simply suggests that they should be investigated. This Resolution should be passed unanimously. We should investigate, not only those Lawyers, we should investigate those Lawyers in the personal injury field, in any number of areas. There is no excuse for any Lawyer suggesting that we can operate outside the Law. I submit that Representative Hoffman has an extremely laudable Resolution. I submit that its passage will alert the Bar Associations in the State of Illinois that the House of Representatives is fed up with their failure to police their profession. I urge a favorable vote."

"Alright.. Further discussion? The gentleman care to close? Oh! The gentleman from Cook, Mr. B. B. Wolfe."

"Ah.. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just briefly, ah.. this is nothing new ah.. to the House and to Committees which have been in operation. in this particular area for the past four or five years. And, many of our Members are experts in this field having all of this background. Now, the only thing that..... To have a meaningful Commission in this area, I.. I think, it would be necessary to adopt the suggested ah.. Amendments ah.. of the Young Lawyer's Committee because GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  all that that says is that ah.. the Committee shall study... include a study of existing Divorce Laws and the effects of those Laws on existing divorce operations which the Committee is going to study, practices and procedures. And, I think, that ah.. ah.. such an Amendment would be both meaningful and would relate to ah.. the suggested study ah.. that this ah.. Resolution ah.. pertains to. Ah.. this is an area ah.. that ah.. we find affects a family life, ah.. it.. it affects ah.. divorce statistics. And, I think, in arguing House Bill 631, which was directed towards curing some of these defects and a Bill which would tend to correct ah.. some of the abuses. in the divorce practice ah.. ah.. and was voted down by this House, ah.. I strongly feel that ah.. a meaningful Resolution, at this time, should include ah.. this broad aspect of a relationship to ah.. both the Divorce Laws and the operations, practices and procedures ah.. in the Divorce Courts. And, I would strongly recommend to the Sponsor ah.. that he include ah.. a such an Amendment which would not, in any way, ah.. detour from the present Resolution. I could then support the Resolution."

"The ah.. gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Glass."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question, Mr. Speaker? Ah.. Ron, was this ah.. does this Committee do essentially the same thing that the ah.. Commission would have done ah.. pursuant to the Bill that you sponsored last year?"

"Yes. Ah.. Representative, this is more defini- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  tive than the Carission Bill that was passed out of the House with a good majority and was defeated in the Senate. The only thing that I'm concerned about here and the people and the news media, who are interested in this proposition, are that our primary concern is equity for the litigants. All of the people, who have corresponded with me, both men and women, have indicated that it's the interpretation of the Laws, the ah.. actual mechanical procedure ah.. instituted by the Attorneys. So, consequently, my main objective here at this point is to provide equity for the people of the State of Illinois."

"Well, if I may comment ah.. As a member of the Sub-Committee, that held a hearing on your Commission Bill, I was certainly convinced of the need for the study. And, if this ah.. ah.. Legis.. if this Resolution will accomplish the same thing or do it more effectively, I'm a hundred per- cent behind it."

"Any further discussion? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hoffman, to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I ask you seriously to consider this. In the past year, I have had many correspondence with the people in the State of Illinois and people outside of the State of Illinois who feel that the greatest abuses are in the Courts in the handling of these cases. Most of the people, who have testified pre- viously in the Hearings, as Representative Glass alluded to, have indicated that that is the treatment that they have re- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  ceived that has prompted their action to formulate this. It's a matter where certainly as we are conducting these Hearings we'll relate them to the Laws of the Statutes as they are. And, if there are recommendations or remedial actions, they will be incorporated into the report. I am primarily con- cerned in giving the people of the State of Illinois, those who are seriously concerned ah.. with this ah.. particular area, a vehicle to see if we can't clean up some of these inequities and solve some of the problems and give these people, the people who are involved in this, a form so that they might be heard. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I solicit your support."

"The question is, 'shall the House adopt House Resolution 456?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The gentle- man from Cook, Mr. B. B. Wolfe."

"Ah.. in view of the failure to ah.. adopt, what I. consider to be a.. a meaningful Amendment ah.. to the Committee's work, ah.. record me as voting 'present'."

"Record the gentleman as voting 'present'. The gentleman from ah.. Adams, Mr. McClain. Ah.. Mr. McLendon.. 'present'. Yeah.. I.. I got McClain as 'present' Mr. Pierce.. 'present'. Mr. Katz... 'present'. Mr. Maragos. 'present'. Mr. Jaffe.. 'present'. Mr. Meyer.. 'present'. Mr. Bluthardt.. 'present'. Mr. Craig.. 'present'. Ah.. Mr. Boyle.. 'present'. Mr. James Y. Carter."

"Ah.. I'm going to join the majority of Lawyers GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  in this House and vote 'present' also, please."

"Ah.. Carter.. James Y. Carter.. 'present'. Duff.. 'present'. Have all voted who wished? Neff.. 'present'. The Clerk will take the record. Berman.. 'present'. On this question, there are... Collins.. Phil Collins.. 'present'. On this question, there are 103 'Ayes' and 6. 'Nays' and 15 'Present' and the Resolution having re- ceived a majority of vote is hereby declared adopted. On the order of Concurrences, appears ah.. House Bills ah.. 3737 and 3738 on which the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Harold Washington, with regard to Senate Amendment No. 1, concurrences on the 3737 and 3738."

"All these Amendments do, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, are change the effective dates from ah.. one year, I don't have the Bill in front of me unfortunately. Ah.. there's no disagreement with these. And, I move concurrent with Senate Amendment No. 1, to these two Bills."

"Alright.. The question then is... Is there any discussion? Alright.. The question is, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3737?'. This is final passage. Requires 89 votes. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, Campbell.. 'aye', there are 138 'Ayes', and 1 'Nay' and the House concurs in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3737. Now, the same question with regard to 3738. All those in favor of the House concurring in Senate Amendment No. 1, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? Meyer.. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Meyer."

"A question of the Sponsor. What does this Bill do, Representative Washington?"

"Actually, the question of what the Bill does is not germane. The Amendment is the one that we're voting on. But, what it does, it incorporates certain misdemeanors into the ah.. new 'Correction Code'. And, it just puts them in a certain category in the 'Corrections Code'. We voted this Bill out by 140 some votes to nothing. And, all the Amendment do is change the effective date to one year."

"Well, I believe, it's a Marijuana Bill."

"Any ah.. further explanations? Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there 138 'Ayes' and 3 'Nays' and this Bill.. and the House concurs in Senate Amendment No. 1, House Bill 3738. House Bill 810, on which the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik, with regard to Senate Amend- ment No. 2."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, would you hold that for a second? I have to pick them up there."

"Alright.."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I have it. Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I move that the ah.. House concur in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill ah.. 810. This also changes the effective date from July 1st, 1972 to July 1st, 1973. And, it also changes the effective date pertaining to the Children and Family GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  42. Services to January 1st, 1974. I ask that the House concur.

"Discussion? Alright.. The question is then on the adoption... on concurrence ah.. in Senate Amend- ment No. 2, to House Bill 810. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the oppos ed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 142 'Ayes', no 'Nays' and the House concurs in Senate Amend- ment No. 2, Ah.. House Bill 811. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik."

"You have an Amendment there ah.. ah.. Mr. Clerk. I asked the House to concur in Amendment No. 1. So, the Amendment which changes the effective date."

"Well,... Alright.. The question is on concurrence of Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 811. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. This takes 89 votes. Have all voted who wished? Take the record. Alright.. On this question... question, there are 139 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and ah.. Senate.. House concurs in Senate Amendment No. 1. Now, Senate Amendment No. 2.".

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I ask that the House concur in Senate Amendment No. 2, which was some technical language that was left out of the.. the ah.. Bill."

"Discussion? The question is on the adoption of Senate Amendment No. 2. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 140 'Ayes! The gentleman from ah. Cook Mr. Lechowicz)" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  T. S. Lechowicz: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know it's a little bit out of order now because the ah.. Amendment No. 2 has passed, but in the explanation of the Amendments, ah.. it's true that it was a clarification or correctional limit as far as the first portion of it. But, it also ah.. eliminates lines 1 through 20 on Page 116. And ah.., actually, that eliminates also the effective date of the ah.. of the Bill. And, I was wondering if there's a corrective.... Was that Amendment No. 1?"

"As I understand it ah.:, Ted, they left out a page and they had to take it out of ah.. this Amendment, No. 2. This was by a ah.. Conference of the Senate and the House."

"Thank you."

"On this question, there are 140 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and the House concurs in Senate Amendment No. 2. Maragos... The gentleman from Cook, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, I would like ah.. to rise and ah.. get unanimous consent of the House to be recorded as voting 'aye' on House Bill 3608 which passed last week. And I ask for unanimous consent to suspend Rule 64. It will not change the result."

"Well, Rule ah.. Ah. Rule 64, you know, has to be ah.. the next Legislative Day."

"Well, I asked for the suspension of Rule 64. Unanimous consent."

"Well now, we have to find it to verify GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  44. the Roll Call because that's.... Alright.. Does the gentle- man have leave ah.. Is there objection to ah.. to suspending Rule 64 so that ah.. his ah.. vote may be recorded ah..."

""Aye'."

"As 'Aye' on....."

"House Bill 3608."

"House Bill 3608. It will not change the result. Alright.. 3 or 1... Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 1976. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.. House Bills 1976 through 1979 and 1999 ah.. they all change the effective date from ah.. January the 1st ah.. 1972 to 1973. Could we hear these all at one time or do you want to go through one at a time, ah.. Mr. Speaker? That's all we do on.. on this whole series of Bills, is change the effective date."

"Alright.. The gentleman is asking leave ah.. to have the House consider concurring in Senate Amend- ments No. 1, House Bills 1976, 1979 through 1999, 3082 through 3534. Now is there objection? Hearing none, then leave has been given for that purpose. Does the gentleman care to once again, explain what that Amendment does?"

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, on that... from 3082 through 3534, except Bills 3256, 3263, 3314, 3374, 3390 and 3404, which were tabled in the Senate because the Law they amended has been repealed. I'd like leave to hear all.. all of the other Bills. And, the Amendment, all it does is change the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  45. effective date to January 1st, 1973."

"Alright.. Does he have leave to have this considered on one Roll Call and the Clerk will make sufficient copies of that Roll Call for each of the Bills indicated. There are about 500 in this Series. Hearing no objection, then the question is, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bills 1976, 1979 through 1999 and 3082 through 3534?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Now, there is an exception ah. to Bills in that Series ah.. which are indicated on the Calendar as House Bills 3256, 3263, 3314, 3374, 3390 and 3404. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz."

"Mr. Speaker, we've been trying to find the Amendment here. I don't know if the Pages put them out or not. I don't have them in my files. And, I was wondering. if the Sponsor, in good faith, would just take this cut of the record temporarily until we get the Amendments? It should only take about five minutes, Mr. Speaker. Fine. Thank you Mr. Speaker."

"Alright.. On this question, then there. Oh! The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 135 'Ayes', and no 'Nays' and ah.. in this Series of House Concurrences in Senate Amendments No. 1, they are here- by declared concurred in. 2707. Ah.. Senate Amendment No. 1, on which the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Campbell.". GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  46.

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.. Senate Amendment No. 1, simply reinstates the Legislative Advisory Committee to be consulted with in re- gard to an expenditure of any excess funds. And, the De- partment, through the Committee, would report to the General Assembly prior to the enactment of the Department's Appro- priations. And, one of the things that it does, it replaces biennium ah.. by fiscal year. And, I move to concur with Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 2707."

"Discussion? The question is on ah.. House concurrence in Senate Amendment No. 1. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this ques- tion, there are 133 'Ayes', and 1 'Nay' and the House concurs in Senate Amendment No. 1. 3544. The gentleman from ah.. Lawrence, Mr. Cunningham."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, last November, this House very graciously passed ah.. House Bill 3544 seeking to authorize the University of Illinois to con- vey twenty acres of unused land to Oblong High School. Sub- sequently, the Senate, attempting to ah.. correct the sub- sequent unitization of the Oblong High School, attached Amendment No. 1. But, alas, when the thing was printed, through fault other than that of our esteem Clerk, the Amend- ment is placed on the wrong line so it strikes the description of the land being ah.. conveyed or sought to be conveyed and ruins the Bill completely. Accordingly, I would re- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  spectfully urge that we nonconcur and would assure the Member- ship, if that a wise Committee is appointed, the matter can be corrected expeditiously."

"Discussion? The question is, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendment No.... Oh! 'Shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment No. 1?'. All those favor will say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the House nonconcurs in House Bill 3544. 3639. The gentleman from Perry, ah.. Mr. Cunningham."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3639 has to do with establishing some base for the filing of records per- taining to General Assembly appointments to Special Districts throughout the State. This Amendment is good in some places and bad in others according to the Leadership on both sides of the aisle of the House. We would prefer to nonconcur in Senate Amendment No. 1, thereby, forcing it into a ah.. Com- mittee and try to work this thing out. At the present time, ah.. the Senate, no doubt, will kill the effect of the Bill if their Amendment is allowed to stand. I've talked to the Senate Sponsors and they now agree with us to shove it into a Committee. I've talked to the Democratic side of the aisle and the Republican Members affected and we are all in agree- ment of nonconcurrence. I ask your support of a motion to nonconcur."

"The ah.. Discussion? The question is, 'shall the House nonconcur in Senate Amendment No. 1, to GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  48. House Bill 3639?'. All those in favor will say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the House nonconcurs. 3681. The gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Tuerk."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, Senate Amendments 1 and 2, to House Bill 3681, Senate Amendment 1, actually, makes this ah.. Act ah.. taking effect upon its becoming Law. And, Senate Amendment No. 2 merely corrects some ah.. language in the Bill that was in the Bill when it left the House, but because of some particular error in Enrolling and Engrossing, were defective and we made those corrections in the Senate. And, the Bill is now in the shape that it passed out of here originally. And, I would move that the House concur in Senate Amendments 1 and 2, to House Bill 3681."

"Any further discussion? Alright.. The question is, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendments No. 1 and 2?'. All those in favor will.. The gentleman from ah.. McLean, Mr. Bradley."

"Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the gentleman would yield to a question. Ah.. Representative Tuerk, ah.. what do these two Amendments, that the Senate put on there, do?"

"Well, Gerry, as I explained, Senate Amendment 1, actually, makes this ah.. Act becoming effective upon becom- ing Law. That's Senate Amendment No. 1 which would then make the Bill operative and the whole system operative for 1972. Senate Amendment No. 2 merely does some things in language ah.. which were... The language was in the Bill, in the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  49. House Bill, when it left here last Fall. But, because of some particular error, and why I can't explain it, in Enrol- ling and Engrossing, they were not incorporated in the House Bill in the Senate. So, we merely made those corrections in the Senate to make the Bill, as I mentioned a moment ago, the same Bill in the same language as when it left here and passed out of here by an unanimous vote."

"Tha.. Thank you. I remember we had this Bill and there was a lot of discussion. But, I wondered if there was a substantious change..."

"No."

"And, evidently, there is not."

"No."

"Thank you."

"Further discussion? The question is. then, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendments No. 1 and 2, to House Bill 3681?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 147 'Ayes' and no 'Nays' and the House concurs in Senate Amendments No. 1 and 2. 2416. The gentleman from Madison, Mr. Calvo."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I would like to move that the House nonconcur in Senate Amend- ments No. 1 and 2, to House Bill 2416. And, ask that a Con- ference Committee be appointed."

"Alright.. Is there discussion? All those in favor of the gentleman's motion to nonconcur say 'aye', GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  50. opposed 'nay', the 'ayes' have it and the House nonconcurs in House... in Senate Amendments No. 1 and 2, to House Bill 2416. 3060. The gentleman from Lake, Mr. Murphy."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I move that the House do concur in this Senate Amendment, to House Bill 3660."

"Is there discussion? The question is, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendment No.... The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Shea."

"I'm wondering if... Could you explain, Bill, what the Amendment does?"

"Ah.. Representative Shea, this Amendment was put on House Bill 3060 due to the fact that ah.. the Supreme Court ah.. did not allow personal property tax to be elimina- ted as we thought it was going to be eliminated. This Amend- ment pre-empts the double taxation of ah.. of ah.. mobile homes because the Bill, that we passed in the previous Session, allows barefoot price of ah.. up to fifteen cents ah.. fifteen percent a square foot on a trailer. And, they would have to pay that along with personal property tax. And so, for this time, until the personal property tax situation is clarified why, this Amendment eliminates double taxation."

"Further discussion? The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Maragos."

"Ah.. Representative Murphy, I did not get the full explanation of what the Amendment does."

"It postpones certain taxation.... It repeals GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  51. the Act that we passed giving the County Treasurers the right to put ah.. square foot tax on the trailers because the per- sonal property tax was not eliminated and they have to pay personal property tax this year. And, this would make double taxation. So, we are repealing the Act that we passed in the last Session."

"What does it do to the present taxation for the year of 1971?".

"It stays as it was previously where they pay personal property tax."

"Oh! Alright.."

"Any further discussion? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bill, does this still exclude Home Rule Units?"

"Well, Ray, the ah... original Bill did. But, this one is just repealing the original Bill."

"Which excluded Home Rule Units. Is that correct? So ah.., the County of Cook, if my memory serves me correctly, assessed a square foot assessment on these various mobile homes. And, if we concur with this Amendment, that assessment would be invalid. Is that correct?"

"Well, due to the fact that home rule units ah.. home rule municipalities and ah.. units were out of the other Bill, I would answer that ah.. I don't believe this would affect you in the least."

"Thank you." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  52.

"Any further discussion? The question is, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3060?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 134 'Ayes' and 1 'Nay' and the House concurs in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3060. Now, House Bill 493, the Lady from Cook, Mrs. Chapman." E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Mr. Speaker, I move to concur with Amend- ments No. 2 and 3, to House Bill 493. Ah.. what ah.. Amend- ment No. 2 does is to make a number of changes, which in no way will change the intent of the Bill. They are ah.. ah.. changes which ah.. clarify, changes which the ah.. Law Firm of Chapman and Cutler has requested. Ah.. there is a Home Rule provision added as is an Amendment proposed by Senator ah.. Dan Dougherty. Ah.. the second Amendment, Amendment No. 3, requires approval by the Senate to appointments that are made. This is... has nothing to do with the Equal Rights ah.. Amendment, Gentlemen. It was passed unanimously in the House last year. And, the Bill is supported by the Illinois Hospital Association, the Illinois Nurses Association, the Chicago Association of Commerce and Industry and the Illinois Association of Homes for the ah.. Aged. Ah.. I respectfully request your support."

"The gentleman from ah.. Franklin, Mr. Hart."

"Would the Sponsor yield to a question?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  53.

"She indicates she will."

"How does my Wife feel about this Amendment?"

"The gentleman ah.. from Cook, Mr. D. J. O'Brien."

"Will the Sponsor yield to a question?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Yes, Sir."

"Ah.. Eugenia, I notice that ah.. this Amendment is a nine page Amendment. And, if I'm not mistaken, this is the Bill that will authorize an Agen... or authorize an author- ity to be set up that will have a limited bonding power to finance the construction and even to oversee ah.. the construc-. tion of ah.. additions to hospitals for hospital or non- hospital purposes. Is that correct?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. for non-profit hospital and health facilities. Yes, Sir."

"And, health facilities, thereby, include nursing homes, shelter homes, half-way house, etc.?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. Ah.. health facilities. Yes."

"Ah.. Are these ah.. bonds backed up by any full facing credit of the State of Illinois?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. as I understand it, the State would be exempted from liability for the payment of the principle or interest or any bonds of the authority and, from the pledged mortgage obligation or agreement, which the authority may undertake."

"In other words, these bonds are not backed up by the State of Illinois or any Governmental Agency?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  54. E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "They would be tax exempt bonds. And, this is why the passage of this measure is so important in terms, not only of providing for health facilities needed in this State, but also in helping ah.. train the health occu- pations, ah.. where we so sadly lack."

"Is there an appropriation for this Bill?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "No, Sir. This is one of the merits of this measure. Not one cent of Illinois State Revenue is re- quired when you vote 'aye' on this measure. As a matter of fact, three million dollars would have been saved in ah.. funds of the ah.. of public aid last year because our biggest pur- chaser of health care is the State of Illinois."

"Ah.. how is the authority to ah.. take care of the expenses?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. this is through the issuance of tax exempt bonds."

"But, how is the authority going to pay for its expenses over and above the issuance of bonds?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Oh! Ah..."

"For the running and administration of this Bill?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. this... This is a good question. Ah.. this also would be repaid by the Organizations receiving the loans."

"How will they repay that?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah... this would be ah.. a part of the rental payment, Sir." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  55.

"I see in the Bill, Eugenia, there's a $15,000 fee ah.. for the ah.. issuance of these bonds for eligibility to receive these bonds." E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. this... If an Organization wants to ah.. apply for these bonds, they would need to provide the ah.. for the payment of this fee. This is at their option. No health facility is required. This is an option which we would offer to health organizations in this State."

"But, is that how the authority will find itself through the fees they will receive?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. this would be used partially for this and also for health planning."

"Let me just ask one final question in the form of hypothetical. If a not-for-profit hospital was unable to receive financing or any federally quaranteed financing, could it not purchase its own bonds, and thereby, receive financing at no cost to them?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "You mean, ah.. purchase its own bonds?"

"Yes." E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "I don't know of no hospital that is in that very ah.. position. Ah.. I.. I do not see this as a possibility."

"The ah.. gentleman from ah.. Rock Island, Mr. Pappas."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Lady ah.. yield to a question?"

"She indicates she will."

"Ah.. Eugenia, would you explain the authority to me? GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  56. Ah.. how.. how does that authority, seven man authority, how does that work?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "It is the public instrumentality of the State of Illinois created by the Legislature and the Governor to performing essential public functions to provide an alternate means of financing the construction of needed hospitals and health care facilities in the State. Now, Organizations, who are eligible and interested, may apply to the authority. And, if they would meet these requirements, bonds could be issued by the authority which would then be paid back by the Organi- zation receiving the loan. Ah.. hospitals in this State have calculated the amount of money in which they could save. Ladies and Gentlemen, we do an awful lot of talk about hospi- tal and health care expenses. In voting 'yes' today, you can save as much as $9.00 per day per patient in health expenses because these are tax exempt bonds."

"Eugenia, also now, it's my understanding that this is for non-profit hospitals only?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. non-profit health facilities only."

"Why is it non... Why only the non-profit ah..? Aren't we discriminating there?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "It would be unconstitutional if we would include profit ah.. organizations ah.. under this umbrella, Sir."

"Why... Why would it be unconstitutional if we in- cluded all hospitals?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. Mr. Pappas, this is what Chapman GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  and Cutler has assured us. This question has been raised with them and I am not able to ah.. ah.. comment on ah.. this particular element in it except to say that we have been assured by Lawyers that this is ah.., particularly Chapman and Cutler, that this would be unconstitutional."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to speak to the ah.. "

"Alright.. Proceed."

"Motion, if I may? Ah.. my understanding is that, with a seven member authority, four of whom would constitute a quorum, would empower... they would have the power, at their own discretion with whatever regulations they set up, as to which hospitals in the State of Illinois will be financed. To me, this seems to be too much power in too few a hands. I feel that this concurrent, we should move to nonconcur and put this back into a Conference Committee and try to work something out where it will benefit all of the hospitals and all of the people of the State of Illinois and not just one segment."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Burditt."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House ah.. with all due respect to the last speaker, I rise to ah. request that the House concur in the Senate Amendments. Ah. this authority, which is created by House Bill 493, is very similar to the Illinois Educational Facilities Authority which this Legislature created ah.. last term which is cur- rently working very successfully. The Act has been held GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  Constitutional and it's providing ah.. very greatly needed help ah.. to Colleges and Universities. This Bill will do exactly the same thing in the ah.. health education field which is, of course, even more important in many respects than the field of education. It certainly is as important in all respects. So, I ah.. would request that the House ah.. fol- low the lead of the Sponsor of this Bill and concur in the Senate Amendments."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. ah.. Douglas."

"Ah.. would the ah.. Lady yield for a question or two, please?"

"Ah.. she indicates she will."

"Eugenia, I.. I'd like to ask you two things. Ah.. have there been any changes from the original Bill of who the seven members would be on the Committee appointed by the Governor?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. yes, there... there has been. Ah. the qualifications, which have specified that there would have to be particular people representing particular interests, such as ah.. medicine, ah.. hospital administration and what- have-you, has been deleted."

"And ah.., the second question, you mentioned that there was a home rule provision included in this. Could you explain what that means?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. yes. The home rule provision spe- cifically states that this measure in no way limits the home GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  rule ah.. rights of any ah.. home rule municipality."

"Thank you."

"The gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Day."

"Would the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"She indicates she will."

"Mrs. Chapman, you have indicated, I believe, that the credit of the State of Illinois ah..is not behind... would not be behind these bonds. In other words, the State could never be held liable for the payment of these bonds. Is that correct?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. yes, Sir, this is my understanding,"、

"And, you have also stated, I believe, that these bonds would, and the interest from these bonds, would be exempt from the Federal Income Tax. Is that correct?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "That is right."

"And, on what basis are they exempt, if they are not State obligations?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. they are issued by a Governmental Authority."

"The gentleman from Cook, ah.. Mr. Meyer "

"With the permission from the Lady from Cook and the Speaker of the House, I would like to answer the question. The Congress of the United States, in 1969, said that, 'revenue financing by the States for hospital care is permissible type Legislation' and 'this legis'.. and 'if the States enacted legis... enabling legislation, that permitted States to issue revenue bonds for hospital financing, these bonds would not. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  would not be subject to Federal Income Tax. The more market- able bonds, the interest rate is lower because an institution that would have to go out and borrow, let's say, a million dollars at a bank, might pay nine percent on today's market. Conceivably, the same institution would go to the bank, the bank would borrow... would buy the revenue bonds, and they would buy them at five or six percent, backing up the only.. the only credit is a lease running from the hospital insti- tution to the financing authority. The.. The advantage of these bonds is the lower interest rate, therefore, it's a saving to the health care institution."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Juckett."

"Mr. Speaker, will the Lady from Cook yield for a couple of questions?"

"She indicates she will."

"Isn't it a fact that the not-for-profit hospitals are presently exempt from property tax, a local property tax?" E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Ah.. I believe so, Sir."

"Okay.. So, we have them exempt from the local property tax and the private, for-profit hospital is not exempt. Now, you're trying to get them financing so that they'll have an advantage again over the for-profit facilities. It would seem to me, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, that we're, again, trying to destroy private enterprise in the State of Illinois. We give them an advantage on the property tax. We give them an advantage here in the financing and we're GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  61. going to give them every sort of an advantage so that we can destroy the private, the taxpaying, the self-employing facili- ties. I think, that if we're going to make this fair, and if we're going to eliminate discrimination everywhere, we ought to include all of the facilities, all of the health facilities. I mean, after all, aren't these health facili- ties providing you and I with the facilities to cure illness and to prevent death? And, just to give a not-for-profit group this kind of an advantage, I think, what we will be doing is, we will be closing the doors of every for-profit facility. And, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we don't have enough money in the State of Illinois to replace the for-profit facilities. And, if you think you're going to be saving money here, you're sadly mistaken. Because to re- place the thousands and thousands of beds will cost this State a tremendous amount of money. And, Ladies and Gentle- men, we don't have that money and it's not the responsibility of the State. And, I would urge you to vote 'no' on this motion to concur and let's get it into a House-Senate Confer- ence Committee and let's work out the details so that we will not place an intolerable burden on all of the people of the State where we have people, who are willing and are able and are presently serving all of the people by.. for-profit. So vote 'no'."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Simmons."

"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."

"All those in favor say 'aye', the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it. The Lady from Cook, Mrs. Chapman, to close." E. S. Chapman (Mrs.): "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We all talk about rising hospital costs. Here's an opportunity for you to do something for the taxpayers of the State of Illinois. A number of other States are making use of this opportunity to decrease health costs for the citizens of their State to meet health needs for the citizens of their State and cut costs in doing this. I hope that your vote will be 'aye' because a vote to 'nonconcur' is a vote to kill a measure which received 134 votes when it was voted upon by this Body."

"Alright.. The question is, 'shall the House concur in Senate Amendments No. 2 and 3, to House Bill 492?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. This takes 89 votes. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 107 'Ayes' and 26 'Nays' and the House concurs in Senate Amendments No. 2 and 3, to House Bill 493. Schoeberlein.. 'aye'. House Bills Second Reading 4310."

"House Bill 4310, a Bill for an Act to amend Section 2-105 of the 'Illinois Vehicle Code'. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any from the floor? Third Reading. 4384.".

"House Bill 4384, a Bill for an Act to amend 'The Revenue Act'. Second Reading of the Bill. No GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  Committee Amendments." 63.

"Any from the floor?"

"Amendment No. 1, Hall, amend House Bill 4384 on Page 1, by deleting Lines 17 through 21 andsoforth."

"The ah.. gentleman from McLean, Mr. Hall."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill is intended to ah.. provide homestead ah.. aid to certain elderly families ah.., who lease ground on which they put their own improvement, their own house ah.. whereas they are not presently ah.. authorized to ah.. take advantage of the homestead exemption. Ah.. this Amendment to the Bill ah.. further clarifies ah.. which individuals this is designed to ah.. take care of. It was suggested in Committee and has been worked out by the Taxpayers Federa- tion and several members of the Appro... or the Revenue Committee. And, I move for adoption."

"Further... The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea."

"Harber, does this take care of situations like out at Lake Bloomington where people have ninety-nine year leases?"

"Ah.. yes."

"I think, it's a good Amendment."

"It does."

"Any further discussion? The gentleman care to close? No. Okay.. The question is on the adoption GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  64. of the Amendment. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments? Third Reading. House Bills Third Read- ing. 4644."

"House Bill 4644, an Act to amend the 'Illi- nois Income Tax Act'. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Duff.

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 4644 is a Bill which is designed to exempt from the Illinois Income Tax, qualified employment.. pension and retirement plans for both public and private pensioners. It would include, in other words, not only those past producers of industry, who have reached the retirement age, but also public employees such as G.I., Firemen, Police- men, andsoforth, throughout the State. House Bill 4644 has almost negligible revenue implications to the State of Illi- nois, at this time. And yet, offers to the past producers of Illinois the advantage of not having to have that burden. I respectfully would request support of the Bill."

"The gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would urge everyone to vote for this Bill. I introduced a Bill ah.. last year relative to those who are G.I.'s, that their ah.. veteran's pension ah.. not be applicable to the Illinois State Income Tax. The Department of Revenue ah.. has made the determination ah.. that ah.., those prior to 1969 under a past ah.. Legislation, ah.. their income ah.., under their GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  pensions, would not apply to the personal.. the State Income Tax. This Bill would ah.. further help the G.I.'s, the Veterans. So, I would urge the passage of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Maragos."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, as a Co-Sponsor in support of this Legislation in the Revenue Committee and.. and in other areas, I solicit your support for the reasons given by the previous speakers. And, it goes in many areas where it is well needed. And, it's just for those people who are now ah.. at the end of their life and ah.. their later years in life where they can best benefit from these small benefits that we are giving them because it's similar to what we're giving them in the Income Tax Field, in ah.. Real Estate Taxation. And now, we're doing it in an area which, I think, is long overdue. And, I ask your sup- port."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. yes, Mr. Speaker, very briefly, I rise in support of House Bill 4644. Ah.. much is made these days of assistance for senior citizens, the elderly. I think, here's an opportunity to give concrete evidence of our desire to assist people, who have retired, who are in the golden years of their life and who have worked to ah.. earn their.. their pension, ah.. who are living on a fixed income. I.. I think, this is excellent Legislation. And, I know that the.. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  66 the cost of.. of the.. the ah.. the plan will be minimal. And ah.., I.. I would urge all of the Members to support this Bill."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Palmer."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"How much will it cost?"

"Well, the present revenue implication are almost non-existent. Under the ah.. ah.. Under the ah.. lump sum payments that would cost less than $300 or $1,000 in ah.. 1973, under the ah.. under the.. the qualified retirement pension plans, ah.. it would cost the State absolutely nothing. It does cost the State, in fact, probably more money to elect than they receive in revenue. This is because of a very complicated actuarial ah.. reporting form that is required."

"We don't have any precise figures for...."

"Well, we don't have precise figures on the cost of election, but we do know ah.. that the ah.. cost is both heavy both to the State, to the employers and to the ah.. pensioners. Ah.. the revenue figures on the... I'd have precise revenue figures on the retirement ah.. plan and pension benefits. And, that is nothing. There will be no cost out of those two. There will be a minimal cost out of the lump sum payment distributions."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Katz."

"Ah.. will the gentleman yield to a question?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  67.

"He indicates he will. Proceed."

"Ah.. it always seems to me that we should have ah the Income Tax Act in the State that would parallel the Federal so citizens would not have to ah.. have separate accounting ah.. procedures in order to solve their tax re- turn. Can you tell me whether this will have any affect on the parallel structure of the income reported in Illinois as against the income required to be reported under the Federal Income Tax Act?"

"To my knowledge, it will not have any ah.. compli- cations in that effect. This is one instance where, in fact, we will be simplifying, considerably simplifying the Illinois Income Tax Reporting Form in this regard."

"Well, is the affect only to ah.. not require taxa+ tion on income.. on income that accrued prior to the effective date of our Act or does it have an affect from this point on, that income that is accrued since we passed the Act would not have to be reported?"

"That's correct."

"In other words, it would mean that income, that is accruing now, would not have to be reported in the State. Is that correct?"

"That's correct."

"Well then, ah.. the answer. That income would have to be reported on the Federal Tax Reform.. ah.. Report, would it not by any citizen of the State?"

"The dist... The distinction that would be made, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  68. Representative Katz, is that ah.., while the principle, while I would concur with the principle that you expressed, in this instance, ah.. to require, because of the Illinois Law rela- tive to ah.. August 1st, 1969 and the reporting form that is required thereby, in this instance, it would ah.. singularly clarify and simplify the Illinois Income Tax Reporting Forms So ah.., rather than have two opposed different reporting requirements, the Federal Income Tax might have ah.. ah.. reporting requirement in this instance. But, rather than be contradictory in the State of Illinois, there would simply be none."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Arrigo."

"Mr. Speaker, if I may interrupt the proceedings for a moment, I'd like to introduce at the rear of the Gallery, the students from St. Jerome's Roman Catholic School, who are here with Sister Bernadette, Sister Aleta and Father Anthony It is interesting to note that our own Colleague, Representa- tive Terzich, is a graduate of St. Jerome's School. And, he's up in the Gallery now renewing acquaintances with his class- mates."

"Alright.. The gentleman care to close?"

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I have been most appreciative of the numbers of the Members of this House who have come to me and supported this Bill and encouraged me to call it. By way of explanation, ah.. to my knowledge, there is no opposition today. Ah.. it was held for a little while we worked out some of the questions that were asked in CENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  69. Revenue Committee. They have been resolved. I know of no opposition. I would certainly appreciate a favorable vote."

"The question is, 'shall House Bill 4644 pass?'. All those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 167 'Ayes' and no 'Nays' and this Bill having received a Constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. House.. House Bills Second Reading. House Bill 4652."

"House Bill 4652, a Bill for an Act to pro- vide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Court of Claims. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amend- ments."

"Are there any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. On the order of Senate Bills Second Reading, appears Senate Bill 1436."

"Senate Bill 1436, a Bill for an Act to amend 'The Criminal Code'. Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amendment."

"The gentleman... The gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Clabaugh."

"Mr. Speaker, this Amendment... this Amendment was adopted in Committee. And, when I was looking through another Amendment and took it down to the Reference Bureau, I found that, when this Bill was introduced, it was put in the Criminal Code and there was an Amendment in the Senate that took out the ah.. fine penalty that was in it. And, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  but yet, it was not taken out of the Criminal Code. And, Mr. Bobbitt drew an Amendment which is exactly a new Bill but it's the identical wording that the Bill came out ah.. of the Committee and even including this Amendment that was adopted there. But, the only change was that it was put in the Civil Administrative Code instead of the ah.. Criminal Code. And, I would like then, Mr. Speaker, to move ah.. that the Senate Amendment not be adopted, be tabled. Mr. Speaker..."

"Yes."

"I move that the Senate Amendment ah.. to House.. or Senate Bill 1436 be ah.. tabled. And then, I'm going to move the adoption of the other Amendment which includes that Amendment in it."

"Alright.. Alright.. So, we understand where we are. The gentle... The gentleman has offered and moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1 and then moves to table that Amendment. Now, is there discussion on this gentleman's motion to table. The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Shea."

"As... As I understand the posture of the Bill right, now, Mr. Speaker, this is a Senate Bill on Second Read- ing and this is a Committee Amendment. And,.. And, could the gentleman tell me why he does not want to adopt the Com- mittee Amendment?"

"The gentle man ah.. from ah.. Champaign, Mr. Clabaugh."

"Simply, that's what Mr.. Mr. Bobbitt suggested, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  71. that we ah.. that we table that Amendment and then adopt the Amendment which put it over in the ah.. other Code and also included that ah.. that Committee Amendment in the new Amendment."

"In other words, you have Amendment No. 2 to offer if this one is tabled?"

"That's correct."

"Thank you."

"Alright.. The question is ah.. on the gentleman's motion to table. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is tabled Amendment No. 2 is coming up."

"Amendment No. 2, Clabaugh, amend Senate Bill 1436, Page 1, by deleting Lines 1 and 2, andsoforth."

"The gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Cla- baugh."

"Now, Mr. Speaker, I'm going to explain and then move that we adopt Senate or the ah.. Amendment No. 2. This Amendment No. 2 transfers the Bill, changes it from the Criminal Code to the Civil Administrative Code. And, it includes the Amendment that was just adopted... or that we just tabled. I move its adoption. The Bill.. This Amendment makes the Bill exactly as it came out of the House Committee. Move the adoption of Amendment No. 2."

"Alright.. Discussion? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Maragos."

"Will the Sponsor of the Amendment yield for a GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  question?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Charlie, how does this ah.. differ? You said an additional points than the one that you just tabled. What additional points ah.. Because when you and I were in Judi- ciary I Committee, you said you were going to amend it to cover certain areas. Would you please define what this ah.. Amend- ment is now, that you're asking to put on, really does in detail?"

"The second Amendment includes all of the Bill including the Amendment that we put on in the Committee."

"But, it still eliminates the criminal ah.. ah. penalty. Is that correct?"

"That's right. And, trans... takes it out of the Criminal Code and puts it over in the Civil Administrative Code."

"The next question is then, the.. the only people that they would have jurisdiction to penalize or enjoin then, not to penalize but to enjoin, would be the ones who are on the campus within the State of Illinois?"

"Yeah.. They are the ones ah.. Ah.. the Chief Office, whether he be the Chancellor or the President, ah.. would ah.. ask the ah.. State's Attorney or the Attorney General ah.. for the injunction."

"This Amendment still, however, does relieve the Administrative Officer of an University or College from having to issue the penalties or seek the injunction?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  73.

"That's true."

"No, he seeks the injunction. He takes it... Noh... He takes it to the... Noh... You're correct in what you say."

"Yes, Sir."

"The gentleman from ah.. ah.. Cook, Mr. Shea."

"I have a parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker."

"Alright.. State your point."

"Senate Bill 1436, as it came over from the Senate, is an Amendment to the Criminal Code amending Section 17 of the Criminal Code. This Amendment provides for a new Bill. And, no Amendment to the Criminal Code, but a new Act. Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I'll repeat my point. Senate Bill 1436, when it came over from the Senate, was an Amendment to Chapter 38 of the Criminal Code. As the Amendment would make it, it is a new Act, not amending the Criminal Code, but just a new Act. Now, I raise the point. I have no objection to it, but I want to find out if this is proper procedure, by striking the Amendment to the Criminal Code and providing a new Act. The subject matter of the Bill is the ah.. same type of subject matter, but it is no longer an Amendment to the Criminal Code but a new Act."

"Well, why don't we ah.. take it out of the record, if that's alright with the gentleman from Champaign, while we get..... The gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Clabaugh." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  74.

"I anticipated this question, Mr. Speaker, and I raised that question with Mr. Bobbitt. And, he said, since the language is identical and as the other, that I raised a question about the Third Reading, the three readings, and he said, since the language is the same and completely germane, then ah.. there would be no consitutional question involved."

"Alright.. We'll take that out of the record ah.. since we're trying to wind up. Ah.. on the order of concurrences, appears House Bill 3682, ah.. on which the Chair recognizes the gentleman from ah.. ah.. Cook, Mr. Phil Collins."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.. House Bill 3682 on the order of Concurrences, ah.. has ah.. technical difficulties that will need ah... grammatical changes. And, I would ah.. move ah.. that the House ah.. nonconcur in the Amendments to Senate Bill 3682."

"Alright.. The.. Discussion? All those in favor of the gentleman's motion to nonconcur with respect to Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3682 say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and ah.. the ah.. House nonconcurs ah.. On House Bill 2916, the gentleman from Cook, Mr. ah.. Phil Collins."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, the same difficulties pertain to ah.. ah.. Senate Bill 2916. And, I would, again, move that we ah.. nonconcur in Amendments ah.. ah.. to ah.. the ah.. House Bill 2916." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  75.

"Alright.. The gentleman moves to non- concur. Is there any discussion? The question is, 'shall the House nonconcur with Senate Amendments No. 1 and 2, to House Bill 2916?'. All those in favor will say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the House nonconcurs. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sevcik, rise?"

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, having voted on the prevailing side, I move to re- consider the vote by which House concurs in Senate Amendments No. 1, to House Bill 3190. Ah.. there are ah.. some techni- cal errors in this ah.. ah.. Bill. And, I would ask that the Conference Committee be appointed after we reconsider this Bill."

"What was the number now?"

"3190."

"Alright.. The gentleman is moving to reconsider the vote by which House Bill or the House concurred in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3190. Now, this will require 89 votes on reconsideration. So, all those in favor will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Have all voted who wished? Laurino... 'aye'. The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 154 'Ayes' and no 'Nays' and this ah.. The ah.. motion. the gentleman's motion ah.. to reconsider prevails. Alright.. Now, the gentleman's motion from the ah.. from Cook, is that the ah.. House nonconcur in Senate Amendment No. 1, to House Bill 3190. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  76. House nonconcurs,ah.. in that Amendment. Senate Bills Second Reading. 1557. 1557."

"Senate Bill 1557, an Act concerning Public Utilities. Ah.. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading. Alright.. Ah.. Committee Reports."

"Ah.. Mr. Blades, from the Committee on Conservation and Water Resources, to which Senate Bill 1335 and 1420 was referred, reported the same back with the recommendation that the Bills do pass."

"Introductions."

"Ah.. House Bill 4681, Matijevich, et.al. A Bill for an Act to amend 'The Revenue Act'. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 4682, Rose, et.al. A Bill for an Act to amend the 'County Executive and Election Code'. First Reading of the Bill."

"Alright.. Ah.. we'll come back to one.. to one of those Introductions in just a moment, if the gentle- man desires to be recognized. In the mean time, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Cook, ah.. Mr. Hyde."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.. I have a motion to make. Ah.. the motion is prompted by ah.. action taken in the Senate. And, I would ah.. ask the attention of the Members of this House. I now move that all Senate Bills, whether in Committee ah.. or on the Calendar in the non-exempt category, in the exempt GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  categories are Appropriations, Constitutional Implementation and Revenue, I ah.. move that all Bills, not falling within those categories, now either in Committee or on the Calendar, be tabled."

"The gentleman from Union, Mr. Choate."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I certainly concur in the Majority Leader's ah.. motion. I would assume that every ah.. Member can do as he wishes. But, after the action, that has been taken by the Senate, in the closing days of last week, and I would certainly go into detail on it if the Mem- bership so desires, but, after the action taken by them in the past week, it appears that they do not want to consider Legislation on its merit, but simply wants to get the Calen- dar cleaned because maybe they haven't been as diligent at their job as this House has been in passing Legislation that does not conform to the exempt status. Then, I would agree with the gentleman's motion, Mr. Speaker."

"Alright.. The question is ah.., All those in favor of the motion ah.. say 'aye', the ah.. opposed 'no' and all Senate Bills ah.., on the Calendar or in Commit- tee ah.. other than those in the exempt categories mentioned by the Majority Leader, are hereby tabled. Alright.. Now, back to the gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, who desires recognition to ah.. make a few comments concerning one of the Bills that he introduced."

"Mr. Speaker,.... Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I introduced a Bill just a minute a ago which the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  78. Clerk ah.. announced. And, I'd like to say that ah.. I was across the other side of the aisle and I have ah.. some Republican Co-Sponsors. I didn't have enough time ah.. to get around to everybody. I'd like to say that I introduced a Bill today that mandate County Collectors in Illinois to deposit in escrow personal property taxes paid by individuals. This account would be held pending the decision in the Lake- shore Auto Parts Case. And now, I introduced this Bill. And, I think, it is in the spirits ah.. of the Governor when he made the suggestion that individual personal property taxes, taxpayers should pay their personal property taxes in protest.. What we are doing by this Bill, we are mandating the County Collectors to put this money into an escrow account. In other words, it is an automatic protest. I believe, that the Illi- nois voters expressed their will overwhelmingly in the 1970 Election, that the personal property taxes to individuals should be eliminated. Now, Mr. Speaker, ah.. I just talked to Representatives Randolph. And, at your suggestion, I would like to.. the Chairman of that Committee to waive the appropriate Rule that this Bill could be heard in the Revenue Committee tomorrow. Ah.. I think, ah.. we would have over.- whelming support for this ah.. because it places the burden on... on us rather than the people ah.. to protest ah.. about their personal property taxes."

"The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Rand- olph."

"That is agreeable if he would like to hear GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  the Bill tomorrow." 79.

"Alright.. Does the gentleman have leave to suspend the provisions of Rule 17 so that Bill may be heard in Revenue Committee tomorrow? The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, to ah.. allay any confusion among the Members, ah.. I would like to ah.. include in the ah.., maybe I'll make a new motion. Inasmuch as the Senate made no exception ah.. to House ah.. matters, including Reso lutions, I would not move that all Resolutions from the Senate, that are, no matter... no matter where they are in the Legislative Process over here. And, this is ah.. ah.. based on the fact of the Senate's action. I move that all Resolutions, not acted on from the Senate, ah.. now be tabled."

"All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and..... And, the gentleman's ah.. motion fails. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Simmons, rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, in regards to ah.. Representative Hyde's motion, there was so much confusion, I would like to ah.. ask for a Roll Call vote on that motion. And, I'd like to be heard on the motion."

"Alright.. The gentleman from Cook, ah.. ah.. Mr. Simmons is ah.. is recognized."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I withdraw my motion for a Roll call on this."

"Agreed Resolutions." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

80 Fredric B. Selcke: "House Resolution 691, M. K. Anderson. Ah.. House Resolution 692, Yourell, et.al. House Resolution 693, Fary, et.al. House Resolution 694, Meyer, et.al. House Resolution 695, Maragos, et.al."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, to ah.. allay any confusion ah.. further compounded among the Members, I am informed that my motion lost ah.. to table ah.. Resolutions. Just so everybody knows it lost. Alright.. The Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 691, congratulates James C. Quayle on his outstanding services performed for the ah.. State of Illinois, ah.. ah.. Illinois Park District. House Resolution 692, is a Death Resolution ah.. in honor of Judge John Gutknecht, who passed away recently. House Resolution 693, ah.. joins ah.. we join the family and friends of William Tipping in congratulating him on his 80th Birth- day. House Resolution 694, congratulates Bethany Union Church on its 100th Anniversary. House Resolution 695, ah.. ah.. is a Memorial Resolution ah.. honoring ah.. Robert Gallo- witch, a police officer, who ah.. was killed in the line of duty. I now move adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"All those in favor of the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions say 'aye', opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Are there further Resolutions. None. Alright.. Now then, the ah.. gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, on the Calendar today shows Cities GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  and Villages at 2:00 P.M... at 2:00 P.M. Hearings of Senate Bills 1442 and 1443. I assume, with the action of this House tabling those Bills, that Committee is now cancelled?"

"Ah.. if those Bills are not in the exempt ah.. category, ah.. they would have been included in the ah.. motion to table. I'm informed that they.. they involve themselves with ah.. tax levies ah.. for recreation, andsoforth. And, under that basis, could be considered as ah.. ah. Revenue. That not ah.. a final determination be- cause I haven't a chance to look at those Bills myself. The ah.. gentleman from ah.. ah.. Cook, Mr. Randolph."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I'd like to have leave of the House to hear Senate Bill 1445 in the Revenue Committee tomorrow. This has been cleared with both sides of the aisle and this is a Department of Revenue measure."

"Leave? The gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. ah.. Jack Thompson."

"Mr. Speaker, in the Gallery to the rear is our Students from Chicago Heights John F. Kennedy School ah.. which is in my District and which contains the Son of ah.. Don Arnell, who is a candidate for the Legislature and his Wife. Don is my Law Associate. They are to my immediate rear."

"The gentleman from ah.. Morgan, Mr. Rose."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen, with GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  82. the concurrence of the Leadership on both sides of the aisle, I would like to ask leave to advance House 4682, which was just introduced, to Second Reading without reference to Committee. The Bill provides that Municipalities which opt in or out of home rule shall notify the Secretary of State's Office of the result of that referendum for central reposi- tory."

"Alright.. Ah.. Does the gentleman have leave to advance that to the order of Second Reading ah.. without ah.. reference? Hearing no objection, then that will be done. The gentleman from ah.. DuPage, Mr. Hoffman."

"Mr. Speaker, ah.. point of inquiry."

"Yes."

"Is it ah.. true that, while I was ontthe tele- phone recently, a very significant Senate Bill, that I have on Second Reading, was tabled? Ah.. Senate Bill 1412."

"Well, ah.. there was a motion put to carry ah.. that all Senate Bills, in Committee or on the Calendar that were not Appropriation, Revenue or Constitu- tional Implementation, be tabled. And ah.., that carried. So,... By an unanimous vote. And ah......."

"Thank you for your assistance, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank the Members. The gentleman from Boone, Mr. Cunningham."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, due to the.. the Speaker is going to check into ah.. the exempt status of ah.. Senate Bills 1442 and 43, there GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  83. will not be a Cities and Villages Committee Meeting today. There will not."

"The gentleman from Boone, Mr. Cunningham. The gentleman from Boone, Mr. Cunningham. Oh! The gentle- man from ah.. Grundy, Mr. Washburn."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the House Calendar indicates that the Appropria- tions Committee will be meeting in two separate places at the same time. To clarify that matter, the House Appropria- tions Committee will meet at 3:00 P.M. in Room 212. Thank you."

"One Bill for Introduction. Alright.. Introductions. There's one Bill here that we want...""

"Ah.. House Bill 4683, a Bill for an Act to appropriate $100,000 to the Capital Development Board. Ah. First Reading of the Bill."

"The gentle man from ah.. Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, I see ah.. a Gentleman from the Senate on the floor. And, I think, it's contrary to our Rules. I would ask that the Doorkeeper would usher him out."

"Yes. That.. That's correct. Would the Doorkeeper see that the ah.. Senator ah.. be removed from the floor. The Minority Leader and the Speaker have agreed that ah.. ah, because of actions in the Senate ah.. in the same vain, ah.. that ah.. our people have been put off the floor over there by the Doorkeeper, ah.. that ah.. the same is going to be the situation here. Now, that's it. Nothing GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  personal, Bob. The ah.. gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde, ah. with the consent of the Minority Leader, asked that that last Bill, 4683, ah.. be advanced to the order of Second Reading without reference. It simply separates an appropria- tion item from another Bill that.. that is on the Calendar. It's a technical problem. So, if there's no objection, why, alright.. we'll advance that to Second without reference. Now, the gentleman from Johnson, Mr. McCormick."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, ah.. I'm not exactly cer- tain on what ah.. this Bill, what category this Bill comes under. And, I wish you'd look at 1267, Senate Bill 1267, that would advocate the racing dates for the Charities that's been... well, but not, you know, the Corporate Charities Act and would allocate that money to the Common School Fund. Would that be one of these exempt Bills?"

"Yes. That would certainly be in the category of an exempt Bill affecting Revenue. It would still be alive."

"Thank you."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Phil Col- lins."

"Mr. Speaker, my two seatmates are going over to the Senate next Session, could we have them put out too?"

"Leave? The gentleman from ah.. ah.. Cook, Mr. Palmer."

"Mr. Speaker, would you look at Senate Bill 1504 ah.. which has to do with suspensions in school. And ah.., GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  to determine whether or not that is an exempt Bill?"

"Well, I.. I'm not going to do it with regard to each Bill now. But, I will solve, ah.. with leave of the House, in ah.. the Journal today ah.. a list of those Bills ah.. that, in the judgement of the Chair, are in the exempt category. And, those will be found and that will be on your desks first thing tomorrow morning. The gentleman from Cook, Mr.. Katz."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker, during the week, you assigned to Judiciary II, ah.. House Resolution 676. Ah.. I have checked with the Chairman of Judiciary II. It will be meeting today. And, I would like unanimous consent to have that heard in view of the fact that we hope that we will be here only one more week."

"Well, the first part, alright. What was the second?"

"Well, the second only was that we have leave to ah.. hear House Resolution 676 in Judiciary II today."

"Oh! Okay.. Ah.. is there objection? Hearing none, then ah.. then ah.. that Resolution may be heard in Judiciary II this afternoon. Ah.. the gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Lindberg, agrees.. is agreeable to that, I'm sure. Okay.. Any further... The gentleman from Lind- berg.. or McHenry, Mr. Lindberg."

"Have an announcement, Mr. Speaker, that ah.. Judiciary II will meet immediately after adjoinment.... adjournment for ah..ah.. in M5 for ah.. these two Resolu- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  tions." 86.

"Alright.. Ah.. the gentleman from ah.. Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Mr. Speaker, I now move that this House stand adjourned until the hour of 11:00 A.M. tomorrow morning."

"All those in favor say 'aye', the opposed 'no', the 'ayes' have it and we're adjourned until 11:00 Α.Μ. tomorrow." ADJOURNMENT AT 2:32 O'CLOCK P.M. 6/6/72 mes. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES