Illinois House Floor Debate — December 15, 1972

"Now, we're in the Regular Session. Roll Call for attendance. All right, with leave of the House, we'll go to the Senate Bills, Third Reading. Senate Bill 1281."

"Senate Bill 1281. An Act to amend Section 2-121 of the Illinois Pension Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Frank Wolf."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1281 amends the General Retirement System in three various sections. Section 2-119 and Section 2-122 which upgrades the annuity rate schedule so as to accele- rate the rate of annuity in the case of a Member with at least 12 years of service, thus reducing an 80% salary instead of 75% as a maximum rate. It also reduces the age from 55 to 50 years for eligibility of the spouse for annuity upon death of a Member occurring while in service and lastly it increases the Members contribution of one-half of one-percent of salary to help finance the aforesaid changes, thus producing a total contribution by a Member of 10% of the salary. This Bill has the approval of the Pension Laws Commission. There is a cost factor which is taken care of in the contributions. It has an amendatory section and I ask the approval of Senate Bill 1281."

"Further discussion? Question is, shall Senate Bill 1281 pass? All those in favor will vote GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  2. and the opposed no and this requires three-fifths. Have all voted who wished? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 123 'ayes', 12 'nays' and this Bill, having received the vote required under the Consti- tution, to become effective immediately upon becoming law, is hereby declared passed. All right. Now, we will go back to House Bills, Third Reading. House Bill 4299. The gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Pappas."

"House Bill 4299. An Act to add Section 2.3 and so forth to the Safety Glazing Materials Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Pappas."

"Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4299 as amended corrects some of the present Act's difficulties. These were discussed rather thoroughly, yesterday on Second Reading, and this is pertaining to the Glazing Act. If there are any questions that anybody has, I would be more than happy to try and answer them."

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Richard Walsh."

"Nothing."

"Question is, shall House Bill 4299 pass? All those in favor, vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no', and this requires three-fifths. Gentleman from Christian, Mr. Tipsword."

"Mr. Speaker, I would like to impose on the House GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  3. for just a Second, to explain my vote. I was one of the first to raise the questions of this Bill yesterday, and my questions have been satisfied. The reason I raised the question to this and another Bill, and why I'm voting for this one today after having questioned it is that these Bills are coming off of the table ah.... several of the ones that are being presented here. We don't have copies of them on our desk. We ah... it's a little diffi- cult to remember the discussions that we have had on many of these Bills when they were presented in the House be- fore they were moved to the Table. I remembered on this one, I had had some opposition and I had to have it cleared up in my mind. I'm afraid many of us don't know what we are voting on. Many of these Bills that are being. taken rapidly off the Table. This one, I would endorse now. I've found that there has been some... it is a Bill I think will not hurt the industry in Illinois, but I would certainly suggest that we have some opprotunity to see these Bills after they come off the Table before we vote for them, because we need to know what we are voting for."

"Have all voted who wished? Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Katz."

"Ah... I wonder, has there been a Committee hearing on the Bill that is involved here?" Pappas: On the original Act, there was a Committee. This Amendment was drafted by the Department of Labor after GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  4. holding hearings for past several months with all interested parties. In other words, the manufacturers, the installers, ah.. with I understand labor organizations and ah.. they wanted to clean up the present act and by coming up with this amendment, it has defined locations better and it ah.. makes the act a little more compatible."

"Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. Oh, wait a minute. The Gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Pappas.

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker. Do we need 3/5 vote on this one to make it effective January 1?"

"Yes. Gentleman from Rock Island, Mr. Pappas."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker. In explaining my vote ah.. we need about three or four more votes. And this.. this is definitely needed legislation. The Department with the present bill as it is. It is an unwieldy bill that they cannot enforce properly. And with this amendment to it, we will have a much better piece of legislation. I would urge, if possible, to get three or four more votes up there."

"Have all voted who wish? Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Palmer."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. To explain my no vote. It appears to me and I have gone over this bill that it is a special interest bill that there perhaps is a good chance of unlawful delegation to GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  5. an administrative agency of Illinois in the area of creating a crime for which this legislature will have set forth a penalty. I will say that the original bill is no good. I am certainly not going to dignify this bill with a 'yes' vote and I hope to be able to do some- thing with the orignal bill next session. The other thing is that it provides for penalties against a homeowner. A taxpayer if you please. It excludes liability from a person who is an employee of a material supplier. I think that homeowners of this state have had it in the neck too long. And I don't think that I certainly want to place them in the position of getting it in the neck again with a bill of this nature. That's the reason for my vote."

"All right. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. Hudson 'aye'. Hudson 'aye'. This bill having.. Oh, on this question there are 88 'ayes', 18 'nays', this bill having failed to received the required vote is hereby declared lost. 4712."

"House Bill 4712. An Act to make an appropriation to the Department of General Services, Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Telcser."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4712 is an appropriation of $250,000 to complete the work on the Executive Mansion and represents a reappropriation of $125,000 from the last fiscal year and GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TAT  6. an additional $125,000. I'd appreciate a favorable. vote."

"Further discussion. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Well, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ah.. I can't vote for this bill. I've learned much to my dismay that the total cost of the Governor's Mansion is $3,250,000 and that came as kind of a shock when I reviewed ah.. Paul Elwords Commission ah.. the Executive Mansion Commission Report. And while it was dated in 1967, they estimated the total cost of the Governor's Mansion liberally at $1,500,000. Now I've also learned that add-ons and change orders on phase two totaled $721,000 and the total bid.. the successful bid was $854,000 so the ratio of add-ons is astronomical. And ah.. as far as I'm concerned ah.. this procedure of gross add-ons makes a mockery of the bidding process and ah.. the ah.. add-ons on the capitol rehabilitation program were so serious that the Secretary of State stopped it and here the ratio on the Governor's Mansion is ah.. totally beyond any bounds of ah.. reasonableness. And therefore I think the taxpayers of the State of Illinois ought to know that $3,250,000 is going to be spent to prop up that ah.. Executive Mansion. And I just think that's way out of line. We legislators are criticized for attempting to increase our salaries a pittance and it seems to me that we're in the wrong business. We should GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  7. be engineers and contractors and consulting engineers because they are moving into the City Council of the Emerald City of Oz. And as far as I'm concerned another $200,000 ah.. $250,000 is adding insult to injury and I'm not going to support this. Thank you."

"Ah.. the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Kosinski."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I, I certainly share the austerity attitudes of my colleague from the 16th District, Mr. Hyde. At the same time while I was overwhelmed by the investment herein, it came to my attention that this edipus has exceeded merely a Governor's Mansion. It is my understanding and I wish Mr. Telcser would clarify that we have now included a basement for certain historical needs. As a library, or as a basement to keep certain documents. Is that true Mr. Telcser?"

"I didn't hear your question. Would you repeat it again, Rome?"

"It is my understanding that we have included in the Governor's Mansion certain additional work in the basement of that building to provide either a library for historical documents or storekeeping of one sort or another."

"I can't.. I really don't know Representative. I.."

"Well, this is my understanding which has.. has made the bill exceed what we had originally anticipated. If Mr. Telcser can clarify this, I think we can justify this additional expenditure to protect the investments we GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  8. have already made. But I should like a clarification as to what's occuring in the basement of that building, Mr. Telcser."

"I'm sorry, Representative. I cannot tell you at this moment what ah.. is being done in the basement of this building. However, as you indicated in your question that ah.. the $250,000 would certainly complete the building. It seems to me foolish to have spent all of that money and perhaps a good part of it follishly as Representative Hyde indicated. Ah.. we've gone this far, I think we ought to complete the Governor's Mansion."

"Well, Mr. Telcser, I indicated that to protect our investment it may be necessary to spend this additional. But I wish you would take this out of the record for a couple of minutes until you find out what's going on in the basement. Can you do this?"

"Well, ah.. Representative in view of the fact that ah.. I just don't know how long we're going to be hear today. And ah.. I'd sure hate to waste a legislative day.. Can I tell you that if the bill does pass and before it's acted upon in the Senate, I'll have an answer for you. I mean how long are we going to be here today, I'll be glad to ah.."

"All right. Ah.. you want to take it from the record?"

"Let's take a roll call."

"All right. Ah.. Is there further discussion? GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  9. Ah.. the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ewell."

"Mr. Telcser: I don't ask this question very often. But could you give us just a little report as to where this money is going and what we're going to do with it."

"Ah.. I can't give you the particulars, Representative. I'm sorry. Well, I'll take this out of the record and try to get it for you. If any of you have questions, if you come to me and give them to me, I'll be very happy to get answers back to you specifically. I cannot tell you where every dollar is going or for what dollar. The only information I have is that $125,000 was lapsed and it's a reappropriation and they need $125,000 to complete the project."

"Mr. Telcser, I feel that I would negligent in my duty towards the citizens of my community if I voted on something like this so could you.."

"Okay. Would you take this out of the record Mr. Speaker?"

"All right. Ah.. take the.. Leave of the House. We'll take 4712 out of the record and go to ah.. 4713."

"House Bill 4713. An Act to amend Sections 11-139-2 and so forth, the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Yourell." Yourell: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House House Bill 4713 is a bill designed to provide for GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  10. a $6,000,000 revenue bond issue to pay for the cost of the extension of water mains and other physical properties to bring Lake Michigan water to Tinley Park and Oak Forest. Receipts from the sale of the water would pay for the bonds and the interest on the bonds. Now the present constitution guarantees that one municipality may enter into contract agreements with other municipalities provide services. All this legislation is designed to do is to clarify a situation that Chapman and Cutler has relative to the bond sale. I would hope that if there's any questions I'd be able to answer them. And I understand I need 3/5 vote."

"Question.. All right. Question is shall House Bill 4713 pass. All those in favor will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. This requires a 3/5 vote. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 144 'ayes', no 'nays' and this bill having received the required 3/5 vote is hereby declared passed. 4719."

"House Bill 4719. An Act to add Sections 8-116 of the Illinois Vehicle Code, Third. Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. James Carter."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This bill was one that I introduced last week which is now on third reading as amended. The calendar does not show the amendement but the amendment was placed on yesterday. This is to correct the situation that exists GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  11. with for-hire vehicles primarily in the City of Chicago which are operating without the proper insurance. The present law makes that a misdemeanor to so do. But there is no penalty provision to put any teeth into what the legislature has already made a misdemeanor. So this intends solely to ah.. put in the penalty provision and make the misdemeanor a A-l. I need 3/5 vote, Mr. Speaker. I'd appreciate your vote."

"Is ah.. there further discussion? Then the question is shall 4719 pass. All those in favor vote 'aye'. The opposed 'no'. And this requires 3/5. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. Hanahan 'aye'. On this question there are 134 'ayes'.. Ike sims 'aye'. Madigan 'aye'. Ed. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Carter for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker I just want to thank the House for giving me the.. my own swan song."

"Okay. The bill having received the required 3/5 vote is hereby declared passed. On the ah.. Speaker's Table appears HJR 142 on which the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Conolly."

"Mr. Speaker. Representative John Matejevich and myself have sponsored a Resolution that was heard by the Executive Committee and received to do adopt a motion that would allow dredging be done Waukegan Harbor.. most necessary.. most vital to the Waukegan area. And we appreciate your support on this measure. Mr. Speaker. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  1.2. I would appreciate a favorable roll call on this resolution. Mr. Speaker. May I have a roll call. on this, please?"

"Question. Now the question.. Are you asking for a roll call?"

"Twice."

"Well, ordinarily it's just 'yeas' or 'nays'."

"Well, then may I just have 'yeas' and 'nays'."

"Oh, all right. All those in favor say 'yea'. Opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it and the resolution is adopted. Ah.. Constitutional Amendments, Second Reading, HJRCA 11."

"House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #11, Second Reading."

"Third Reading. Ah.. on the ah.. Calendar on the order of motions appears a motion with respect to SJRCA 78 for which the Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Jones."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is the Constitutional Amendment Resolution which was passed by the Senate and Tabled ah.. earlier in this session which calls for an election at the next general election. The voters shall determine whether or not we shall have annual sessions that will be confined to six months and in the alternate years they will only... the only duties will be to concern ourselves with the appropriation and revenue matters. Ah.. in view of this discussion about the cost GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  13. of the legislative ah.. cost of the various sessions. It seems appropriate that this bill be brought back to the Table for reconsideration and I so now move."

"Discussion. Question's on the Gentleman's motion to take SJRCA 78 from the Table. All those in favor will say 'aye'."

"Aye."

"Opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and ah.. the Gentleman's motion prevails. All right. On the Calendar on the order of vetoes, Amendatory Vetoes Motions appears ah.. a motion with respect to 1318 which the Chair recognizes the Gentlemen from Cook, Mr. Shea."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 1318 was one of the revisionary bills from the Legislative Council. Ah.. It was passed by both Houses and sent to the Governor. And the Governor using his amendatory veto power changed three or four sections to make it conform with laws that we had passed ah.. prior to the time he signs this bill. One of them was changing.. making sure that the nominating petitions for independent candidates of Governor and Lieutenant Governor that there would be a joint petition and with regard to the Election Code setting up 'the statutory requirements for the number of signatures for independent candidates for both the legislature and the Congress in a year after redistricting. It amended the Pension Code in several places to allow the purchase of Israel GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  14. bonds by. Pension Funds which was done in several instances by this assembly and further amended part of the ah.. Workmen's Compensation Act. I'd be happy to answer any questions if anybody has any with regard to the language changes."

"Any discussion? Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Jake Wolf."

"Mr. Shea did I understand you to say that they can take our Pension Funds and invest them in State of Israel Bonds?"

"No. I said that there were amendments passed to various Pension Funds allowing the purchase with Pension Fund money of State of Israel Bonds. Those changes are incor- porated in this bill at this time. One is the ah.. Fire Fund.. various other ones. If you're asking me. This conforms the language to what we've already done. But it does permit the purchase of the State of Israel Bonds with Pension Fund money."

"Well I wasn't aware that.. we could take our Pension Funds and invest them in any foreign country and if we're going to do it in Israel, let me ask you a question. Can we invest them in Italian Bonds or German Bonds or anything else?"

"To the best of my knowledge, no."

"Can you tell me why this one exception was made?"

"Ah.. I didn't pass those specific bills, Mr. Wolf. But there were amendments to various Pension Codes ah.. amendments in the last session. I think ah.. Representative GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  15. Colitz handled those bills in the House. And perhaps he'd be the one to give you an answer to that."

"Well as I recall we did enable Savings and Loans, I believe, to invest in such bonds. But I wasn't aware that we would allow our own Pension Funds to be invested in any foreign country. Personally, I think it's a bad practice regardless of what country it is."

"Gentleman from DuPage, Mr. Schneider."

"Jerry, on the election portion of the revisionary bill. Would you th.. repeat those once again? I'm sorry I didn't hear what you said on that."

"Take the ah.. message from the Governor.. and I'm reading from that. On page 55 of the bill, line one by inserting immediately after the period, 'following'. For the first election following the redistricting of congressional districts, nomination papers for an independent candidate for congress shall be signed by at least 1,000 qualified voters. Then it talks about for the first election following the districting of the legislature, 3,000 signatures. Those were in other bills and they're being incorporated in this bill so that all the election laws will conform. They talk about the same thing in the case of independent candidates for Governor and Lieutenant Governor a joint petition."

"All right. So actually the independent candidate still faces the problem of generally requiring substantially more than ah.. a party... ah.. persons such as ourselves GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  16. for example, in the State Representative race it's 300 if I'm not mistaken. And we're still requiring the independents come up with 3,000 signatures in the case of a State Representative race. That's all right?"

"Ah.. Glen. This is attempting to conform this bill to the present law. I'll tell you, Mr. Speaker. Why don't we take this out of the record and I'll go over it again with some of the people who have questions about it, because it is a big bill. It's about three hundred pages."

"All right. We'll take it out of the record. All right. While.. leave of the House we'll go from the order of vetoes to.. back to House Bills, Third Reading. And ah.. back to 14.. 4712. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Telcser."

"Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I tried to get a couple of answers which Representative Kosinski and Representative Ewell asked. I've checked with General Services. There is no project taking place in the basement of the Mansion. And relative to Representative Ewell's inquiry, I have some figures such as ah 20,000 some odd hundred dollars for plumbing work. Ah.. approximately 9,000 dollars for heating and air-conditioning. Ah.. $5,000 for ventilation work. Ah.. 1,000 and some dollars for pipe covering. An item called General Work for $77,000. Ah.. changing wall studs ah.. $5,700. Ah.. a new roofing and railing for preservation $21,000. The list goes something like that, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  17. Representative Ewell. I don't know if that's sufficient for you."

"The Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Londrigan."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I believe we can hold up on this appropriation bill until we have some answers. I'm sure some of you have read the Chicago Tribune today which brought of the $250,000 add-on plus. There's charges about the illegality of certain procedures. These rumors have been right in Springfield concerning what has been going on at the Mansion. Rumors are to the effect that work has been done and not paid for. Now we see that work has been accomplished and apparently in hopes that an appropriation would come through. This is just one of the many areas we should investigate. And today in the Executive Committee I called for an investigation by the Illinois Investigative Committee into this Mansion and the other projects we have talked about. Now, we know that we've been talking for over a year concerning these investigations about add-ons. And here we have another one. And I think before we appropriate the money we should have the investigation now, not after we appropriate the money and everything's spent and closed. So let's hold up on this and the Commission did inform us this morning that they would get a prompt investigation to them. So because of the questions raised not only in the Chicago Tribune article but by many other people in the community, I believe we GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  18. should hold up this appropriation until we have more answers."

"Gentleman.. Any further discussion? Question is shall House Bill 4712 pass. All those in favor will vote 'aye'. The opposed 'no'. And this requires 3/5 vote. Have all voted who wish? Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz."

"Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I'm sure that all of us has seen the article in this morning's Tribune. in reference to the doubling of costs and in turn showing our concern that it's unfortunate that the bidding is not being adhered to by certain segments of State government where actually the cost that we've appropriated by a different method of allocation the cost rise and certain people may benefit by it. But I think it'd be wrong that this General Assembly at this time and at this stage put a hold on this bill because this money as the sponsor has indicated is actually a reappropriation of $125,000 and in turn with the consultation of the people on the Executive Mansion Committee recommended that certain changes do take place. In my opinion when they recommended these changes they should have gone to a rebidding process. but unfortunately, they didn't. But I think it'd be wrong at this time for an appropriation of this amount to not vote for this bill at this time would be wrong because we have a sizeable investment. I think it'd be wrong in GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  19. another area where a man who has just been elected by the people of the State. And in turn this Mansion was supposed to be completed at a much earlier date. If we hold up this appropriation, it'll just be another continuation. And probably within a short period of time, we'd have to come up with the money any way. If this appropriation is stopped, we will continue renting space for a Chief Executive. And in turn the money that should be widely invested will not be done so. I would ask that the Members of the General Assembly pass this appropriation and in turn that we would view all contracts, in fact, maybe pass the bill making it mandatory upon any change order that it be rebid."

"Have.. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. B. B. Wolfe."

"I know it's a violation of the Rules, Mr. Speaker, But if the principal sponsor would respond to a question I have in my mind and maybe an explanation if we can get it. Will it be possible to occupy the Mansion if we do not pass this appropriation to complete whatever work is unfinished?"

"Representative Wolfe, ah.. the Mansion could be occupied in its present condition, certainly. It is occupied now, in fact. But I understand that there is alot holes in bare walls and incomplete work. But in terms of being occupied, yes it could be."

"Thank you.":. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  20.

"The ah.. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Regner." Regner:. "Ah.. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Just as a little further explanation of this appropriation. $120,000 of the total appropriation are ah.. for funds that lapsed because they were not spent in the initial fiscal year. So almost half of what is being asked for ah.. are for items that have been approved for ah.. construction before. And all they're asking for is the reappropriation of these monies and I'd urge a vote to support this bill and get the job done."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ewell."

"Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen. I understand that the incoming Governor is a great outdoorsman and he walks a considerable bit. A reliable informant told me that he had some discussion on the campaign trail about the Governor's Mansion. And it's my understanding that he said he would be willing to sleep in a hollow log if they elected him. And I think the Mansion might be a little hollow but under the circumstances, this great outdoorsman could really endure.. and in fact he might have some plan to save the State a little money on it. And I think we ought to vote to hold this up and take a look at it when we come back with clear vision. And I would vote 'no'."

"Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Telcser."

"Mr. Speaker, may I have leave to put this on the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  21. order of postponed consideration?"

"All right. Does the Gentleman have leave to do this? Is there objection to putting on postponed consideration? All right. Hearing none, we'll place it on the order of postponed consideration. Senate Bills, Second Reading, 1515 through 1520."

"Senate Bill 1515. An Act to amend Section 11-61-3 of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments. Ah.. Senate Bill 1516. An Act to amend Section 8-6-2 of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments. Senate Bill 1517. An Act to amend Section 9-2-48 and so forth of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments. Senate Bill 1518. An Act to amend Section 11-141-3 of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments. Senate Bill 1519. An Act to amend Section 2 of an Act to authorize the period of time public corporations to issue bonds other evidence of indebtedness and tax anticipation warrants and interest rate; or rates not to exceed 7% per annum. Second Reading of the bill. No Committee Amendments. Senate Bill 1520. An Act to amend Sections 8-1-12 and so forth of the Illinois Municipal Code. Second Reading of the bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Any from the Floor? Third Reading. On the Order of Amendatory Veto Motions appears a motion with GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  respect to Senate Bill 1424. 22. Chair recognizes the gentle- man from McLean, Mr. Hall." Hall: Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Senate Bill 1424 is an amendatory veto, which improves somewhat the Bill that had been passed. It reduces the administra- tion of the accounts, wherein the State pays for part of of the salaries of States Attorneys, and instead of pay- ing these amounts over.... in advance, they will pay them instead of every, in advance every six months, they will now according to the Governor's amendatory veto, pay them after the fact, but at every six month intervals instead of monthly, so it's a slight improvement and I would move that this House concur in the Governor's amendatory veto."

"Is there further discussion? Question is, shall the House concur in the..... Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea."

"Harbor, as I understand what you are saying is that the State used to provide these payments to local govern- ments on an annual basis?"

"No, semi-annual basis after the fact for the preceding Shea: six months." "That's what they use to do or do now?"

"No, they use to pay them monthly for the preceding month, and ah.... now it will just be payment the year. Each payment for the preceding six months. The Bill was passed having the State paying these monies in advance. The problem was paying the money in advance where you GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  23. might have a vacancy where all the money wouldn't be justly due the local government, the counties and there- fore they would have to pay it back and the bookkeeping would be a little harder. So we are going to pay after the fact, but just two payments a year instead of twelve."

"Alright."

"Any further discussion? Gentleman from Macon, Mr. Alsup."

"Well, I'm not sure we're being fair to the counties. Let's take this supervisor of assessment deal. It's some- thing the State encourages and it requires more less, and what happens in a small county that doesn't have the money to pay this for six months and then asked for reimburse- ment. I'm not too sure we want to do it this way when you stop to think about it. These counties have to operate too, and if we think it's necessary, I think we should be willing to invest a little bookkeeping. That's all it really amounts to, and if the State owes the Bill, it should be paid as they pay the officials, so I don't particularly care for this type of approach."

"Any further discussion? Question is, shall the House concur in the Governor's amendatory veto, with respect to Senate Bill 1424? All those in favor will vote aye, the opposed 'no'. This requires 89. Gentleman from McLean, Mr. Hall."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.... I'd like to take a little time to clear this matter GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  24. up. If we paid this money in advance, as the Bill was written, this was probably would be the only case of any official or group of officials being paid in advance of work performed. Ah.... this would seem. rather ludicrous indeed to ah... take this attitude in respect to the one group of office holders. Ah.... on the other hand, if we pay the checks back to the counties twice a year for the work performed and on their billing, where after all the State is paying fifty percent of the cost of these local government officials anyway, I think this is fair and reasonable, and ah.... the administrative workload is not excessive. Ah.... I can't understand Representative Alsup's argument here in any respect. I think either we ought to go back to the original way we were doing it. or else concur in the Governor's logical amendatory veta, which I am asking for your support in now."

"Is there further discussion? Have all voted who wished? Gentleman from McLean, Representative Hall."

"Mr. Speaker, I would asked a postponement of this mat- ter."

"Gentleman has asked for a postponed consideration. Is there any objection? Leave has been granted. On the order of amendatory vetoes motions, appears Senate Bill 970, for which purpose the gentleman from Cook, Representative Regner is recognized." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  25.

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 970 was a Bill that we passed last year es- tablishing a program for Local Law Enforcement Officers who complete 30 hours or more, semester hours of law enforcement related courses. The Amendatory Veto that the Governor suggests and asks us to accept ah... is pro- vision that not more than fifty percent of the total funds go to Cook County and it also takes the two hundred and fifty thousand dollar appropriation out. The reason for that is, that it was ah... deemed necessary to take that out, because you can't have substance or substantial bill along with the appropriation in the same piece of legis- lation, so to make this Bill constitutional, this item was recommended and I ah... would move that we adopt the recommendations of the Amendatory Veto, the Governor re- lating to Senate Bill 970."

"Is there any discussion? Question is, shall the House adopt the Governor's Amendatory Veto, relative to Senate Bill 970. All in favor, signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by voting 'no'. Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lechowicz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Will the Sponsor yield to a question?"

"He indicates he will."

"In your explanation of the Amendatory Veto of the Governor's, you mention the fact that the money, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, there was some question as to GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  .26. the constitutionaly having that item in the same Bill. That I agree with. But also in the Amendatory Veto is the factor that fifty percent of this money alone can be spent in Cook County, and I was wondering how that percentage was derived at and why is their a limit for Cook County alone?"

"According to the explanation, Ted, it says 'if at the time of the reimbursements to local units or to units of local government, participating in the program', well.... just a little further ah.... The way it was derived at is that it was decided that approximately fifty percent of the population is in Cook County, fifty percent down- state, and therefore to ah.... set it at that amount, Senator Hynes, who is the Chief Sponsor of this Bill, met with representatives of the Governor's office and also the people who will be administering this program, and it was decided really by Senator Hynes and these other two groups that this would be the proper distribution."

"All right, thank you."

"Is there further discussion? Have all voted who wished? Gentleman from Cook, Representative Shea."

"Will he pull this out of the record for a few minutes until I talk to him about it?"

"He'll take it out of the record. On the Order of Amendatory Veto motions, appears Senate Bill 1318, for which purpose the gentleman from Cook, Repre- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  sentative Shea is recognized." 27.

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think this has been ah... thoroughly explained and I would at this time ask for a favorable vote on the Governor's Amendatory Veto."

"Is there any discussion? Question is, shall the House adopt the Governor's Amendatory Veto, relative to Senate Bill 1318. All those in favor, signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wished? Gentleman from Cook, Representative J. J. Wolf."

"Mr. Speaker, I would like to explain my vote if I may."

"Proceed, Sir."

"A few minutes ago, someone mentioned that possibly my reasons for opposing this, ah.... had some anti-semitism in it and I want to explain that that's not the case at all. As I've been studying this Bill, the only foreign country that we are allowed to invest our money in is the Dominion of Canada, and this Bill as it is now with the Governor's recommendation, directs obligation to the State of Israel, allows us to invest in these bonds. I think it is a very bad practice for us to invest pention fund in any foreign country, because then we have invested monetary interests in profiting up whatever country that is. Now the next step would be to buy South Viet Namese or West German bonds, and then we have an involvement in these particular foreign affairs to protect our pension GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  28. funds. I think it's bad policy for us to invest our pension funds or anyother State of Illinois fund in any foreign country, when there's so many things we can in- vest in the United States and I'm voting 'no'."

"Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On this question 127 'ayes', 13 'nays' and the House adopts the Governor's Amendatory Veto relative to Senate Bill 1318. Record Representative Bill Walsh as voting 'no'. We will be at base for a few minutes. Maybe we can get Representative Regner and a few others to square away their problems. Committee Reports. Representative R. D. Cunningham, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?".

"Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker."

"Staté your point, Sir."

"Before we waste another day in recesses, I would respectfully ask the Chair whether he would enter- tain a motion to adjourn. I haven't stated my Motion yet. We have been five days here in operation spin-wheel and have accomplished very little for the taxpayers of this State. I respectfully urge that there are no unfinished projects on the drawing board, that cannot.... that have any chance of passage that cannot be handled just as well or better by the 78th General Assembly, and that certainly includes the sacred cow of judicial pay raises. For all these reasons and by the conviction that we have been here too long for the good that we've done, I would respectfully move at this time, Mr. Speaker, that we adjourn and that CENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  29. the Senate so be advised."

"Representative Cunningham, we're on the Order of Committee Reports right now."

"Mr. Juckett from the Executive Committee to which was referred House Resolution 847, offerred by Mr. Sevcik on December 14, 1972, reported to be sent back with the recommendation that the Resolution be adopted. No further Committee Reports."

"The House will be at ease for a few minutes. Introduction First Reading of House Bills."

"House Bill 4721. Hyde. Appropriates one million dollars to States Attorney in Cook County for hiring investigators. First Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have just introduced a Bill that ah.... appropriates a million dollars to the States Attorney in Cook County to hire investigators, and I'm going to ask that the provisions of Rule 39 be suspended so that this Bill may be advanced to the Order of Second Reading without reference to Com- mittee. It has come to my attention that the Superintendent of Police in Chicago have removed 84 investigators which traditionally have been on the staff of the State's Attorney of Cook County and I'm further informed that the County of Cook is ah... not disposed to provide adequate funding to ah... Mr. Cary so that he can carry on his most important work as States Attorney of Cook County, and so GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  30. I think it behooves this Legislature to leap into the breach by funding his office so that he may obtain the services of adequate investigators and that law and order might be properly administered and enforced in the County of Cook, and so, Mr. Speaker, I move now that the provi- sions of Rule 38, ah.... I'm correcting that, Rule 38 be suspended so that this Bill might be advanced to the Order of Second Reading without reference to Committee."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea."

"Ah.... would the gentleman respond to a question or two?"

"He indicates he will."

"Mr. Hyde, are you aware that the President of the County Board, Mr. George Dunn, has recommended to the Board to fund 84 investigators for the States Attorney of Cook County and that he has committed a portion of the Federal Revenue Sharing Funds for that purpose? Do you know that he's done that?"

"No, I do not. If you state that to be the fact, and if you state that the ah... Office of the States Attorney of Cook County will ah.... how soon is this going to come about, Mr. Shea?"

"Well, if you want to hold that for a few minutes, I'll get the exact information for you."

"Very good, and if this is factual, I'll be pleased to move to Table this Bill."

"All right." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  31.

"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Yourell."

"To further clarify that situation, Representative Hyde, I had a discussion with the County Board President this morning, and that was a matter of some discussion of ours, and he indicated to me at that time that he was going to use one million dollars of Federal Revenue Sharing for this purpose, so that came directly from the County Board President this morning."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was also brought up at the last County Board Meeting."

"All right, we're going to hold it for a little bit. We'll.... o'kay, just leave it on the Speaker's Table. It's been read a first time. Further introductions."

"House Bill 4722. Regner. Amends the Economic and Fiscal Commission Act. First Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Regner."

"Ah.... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this Bill deals with the reporting dates for the Economic and Fiscal Commission reporting dates of Revenue esti- mating. This was a Bill where a Commission was created during the last session. What the Members of the Com- mission found or the staff of the Commission found, in trying to get this Revenue estimated for reporting to the General Assembly; it was virtually impossible to comply with the ah... Bill in its original form of reporting 45 GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  32. days before the convening of the Session and then 45 days after. The one 45 days after would give us almost no meaningful revenue estimating, since we don't know what the Governor's budget would be. So what the change is, is to have the first reporting ah.... at the convening of the Session and the second reporting on the Third Wednesday of March, which would give the Commission about three weeks, 2-1/2 to 3 weeks to work on it, in conjunction with the Introduction of the Governor's Budget. This is the unanimous decision of the Commission. I have checked with the leadership on both sides and I would like to now move to suspend Rule 38 which is the provision for assign- ment and hearing by Committee, to suspend Rule 38 and ah.. bypass Committee and have this Bill placed on the Order of Second Reading."

"All right, is there objection? Hearing none, we will suspend the Rules, so that the Bill having been read a First time may be advanced to the Order of Second Reading without reference. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Mr. Speaker...."

"All right, gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I now move that this General Session, ah.... do stand in recess until the hour of 2:30. Ah.... very shortly I will go into the Special and we will recess that until 2:25, but GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  33. I would like to explain to the Members that we are waiting some activity on the part of the Senate, which has been in floor session and in conference and in caucus, and there's very little we can do over here until they re- solve their problems over there, and so that is the reason why we are ah.... standing awaiting activity on the part of the Senate. So I now move, Mr. Speaker, that this General Session stavid in recess until the hour of 2:30."

"All right, all those in favor of the gentleman's motion, say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the General Session is recessed."

"And now we're in the Regular Session. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde.".

"Now, Mr. Speaker, I move that the Regular Session stand adjourned until the hour of 3:35 this afternoon."

"All right, all those in favor of the Motion, say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The ayes have it, and we will now go to our respective conferences." GEBERAL ASSEMBLY TATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  34.

"We are now in Regular Session. With leave of the House, we'll go to the Order of Vetoes and on the Order of Amendatory Vetoes Motion, appears Senate Bill 970, for which urpose the gentleman from Cook, Repre- sentative Regner is recognized."

"Ah.... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 970 was discussed earlier in the day and there was a question on one of the amendatory vetoes and that was the portion of it that said 50% of the appropriation under the Act would ah.... be restricted to Cook County and the other 50% to the rest of downstate, and the question was why was this done? It was done to comply with all the other distribution of funds through the Police Training Board. Ah... as a question, I under- stand the objections ah... have been eliminated on that."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Shea."

"I understand. I discussed this with Senator Hynes and he tells me this is the present law under the Police Training Act and this is just in conformance with it, so I understand why it's there now."

"Right, and I now move to accept the recommendation of the Governor to Senate Bill 970 and adopt the amenda- tory veto."

"Is there further discussion? Question is, shall the House adopt the Governor's Amendatory Veto relative to Senate Bill 970? All those in favor, signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  35. wished? Leon 'aye'. Meyer 'aye'. Fleck 'aye'. Take the record. On this question, there are 136 'ayes', no 'nays', and the House adopts the Governor's Amendatory Veto, relative to Senate Bill 970. Representative Walters, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would like to take a moment to introduce a young lady in the gallery. The wife of my seat-mate, Representative John Hirschfeld, Rita Hirschfeld."

"Representative Regner, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ah... last week, Representative Lechowicz and myself introduced House Bill 4711. What this is is a $250,000 appropriation from the General Revenue Fund to the Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officers Training Board. This is the money that was just amended out of ah.... on the Amendatory Veto, out of Senate Bill 970. I would like to ask leave for the suspension of Rule 38, so that ah... House Bill 4711 can be taken from the Speaker's Table and placed on the order of Second Reading without reference to Committee."

"Does the gentleman have leave? Hearing no ob- jections, House Bill 4711 will be taken from the Table and put on the Order of Second Reading. Representative Katz, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"I was trying to find out what this Bill is that we're taking and putting on the Calendar? What does it do?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  36.

"The Sponsor will explain that, Sir."

"Harold, as I said, this is an appropriation of $250,000 to the local governmental law enforcement officers training board. This is the money that we amended out of Senate Bill 970 in adopting the Governor's Amendatory Veto on that Bill. The reason we took it out is to ah... comply with the constitutional portion that we can't have an appropriation in with the substance substantial bill."

"O'kay. O'kay, House Bill 471l will appear on the Order of Second Reading. O'kay, now Representatives Blair and Choate have gone across to the Senate to see what's going on there. I guess we can all be at ease for awhile. House Resolutions. House Resolution Number 895."

"House Resolution 885. Katz et al. 'Whereas the House of Representatives, which has too many Bills and too little humor regrets the retreat from the trenches of Ira Colitz, our distinguished colleague and Bachelor from Rush treat, a man of many passions, noted philospher, philantropist and man about town, soldier and boy hero, whose wisdom and wit can often be heard on the Democratic side about the voices in debate; and whereas he will sorely be missed, who at great personal sacrifice, responded to the call of duty and served an illustrous term here, and whereas a survey conducted since the General Election has clearly illustrated that his loss was a result of bullet voting against Representative Colitz by the large numbers of rich and beautiful women along Chicago's rush street GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  37. and gold coast areas, who cannot bear him to be in Springfield for lengthy, annual sessions; and whereas this House, understanding as it does, the ways of life and of the heart, must reluctantly allow him to depart from our midst; Therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 77th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that it will miss your colleague, Iris Colitz and is anxious for him to understand that the Members of the 78th General Assembly will be happy to welcome him to participate in its activities if he will reciprocate when any of its Members have occasion to be in his district; and be it further resolved that a suitable copy of this resolution be presented to the Honorable Ira Colitz."

"I want to thank everybody here for the kind words, although they really are true. Thank you very much."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Katz."

"In view of Representative Colitz, having assurred us that it's entirely true, I would move the adoption of the House Resolution honoring our distinguished colleague, Ira Colitz."

"All those in favor, signify by saying 'aye', the opposed 'no, and the Resolution is adopted. On the Order of Resolutions, House Resolution Number 847. The gentle- man from Cook, Representative Sevcik."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would ask for leave and unanimous consent to suspend the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  38. appropriate rule for the purpose of immediate considera- tion and adoption of House Rule 847. Ah.... this ah.... Resolution was heard in Executive Committee this morning at 10:00 O'Clock. This is the Race Track Investigating ah.... Resolution, and it was reported out unanimously without a negative vote."

"Are there any objections? Hearing none, the gentleman has leave for the immediate consideration of House Resolution 847. Gentleman has moved that the House adopt House Resolution 847. All those in favor, signify by saying 'aye', the opposed.... Representative from Cook, Representative Simmons."

"Mr. Speaker, could somebody read the Resolution."

"We're getting a copy now from the...."

"I haven't seen it."

"Do you have a copy, Representative Sevcik. Do you wish to read it, Sir? Will you give it to the Page, and he'll give it to the Clerk to read."

"House Resolution 847. Whereas the Illinois Legislative Investigating Commission Act, establishes a permanent commission of the legislature with power to investigate pursuant to Resolution, adopted by either House thereof, any matter upon which the General Assembly may legislate, and whereas the General Assembly is em- powered to enact legislation designed to protect the State's well being and general welfare; and whereas recent allegations concerning the awarding of thoroughbred and GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  39. harness racing dates by the Illinois Racing Board have cast out on the fundamental fairness and propriety of these racing dates; and whereas the retention of these dates may result in the loss of revenues to this State; and whereas further allegations have indicated a possible violation of an Act in relation to meetings, the Illinois Open Meetings Act. Therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 77th General Assembly that we direct the Illinois Investigating Commission to thoroughly investigate the 1973 Racing dates recently awarded by the Illinois Racing Board with a view to de- termining the circumstances under which the dates were awarded, whether a violation of the Illinois Open Meetings Act occurred, whether the retention of these dates will result in a demonstrable loss of revenue to the State and any other matters which are reasonable related to the awarding of these racing dates; and be it further resolved that the Commission may conduct such hearings as may be deemed necessary and shall result its findings and any recommendations for legislation to the General Assembly upon the completion of all or any integral part of its investigation."

"The gentleman has moved the House adopt House Resolution 847. All those in favor of adoption, signify by saying 'aye', the opposed 'no', and the Resolution is adopted. Representative Burditt, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?". GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  40.

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 659 ah.... which is a Bill to authorize Municipalities as a condition of approval of a subdivision plat, to require a subdivider to dedicate land for school purposes, are to make cash payments in lieu of such dedication, is on the Table of this House. It was tabled on June 6 and on June 28, a motion to take it from the Table was lost. There has been so much talk, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, about the tax freeze and all matters relating to taxes and particularly school districts and park districts, that I would like at this time to renew my motion to take House Bills... Senate Bill 658 from the Table. I would be glad to explain the Bill further or to answer any questions, but my motion is to take the Bill from the Table."

"Is there.... Gentleman from Cook, Representative Maragos."

"I would like to ask the Sponsor of the Motion, was this the same Bill that was considered by Judiciary I committee?"

"No, No, this Bill was in Municipality."

"What was the correct Bill number, Representative Burditt. The Clerk would like to know what the Bill Number was?"

"Senate Bill 658."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Duff." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  41.

"Mr. Speaker, I wonder if considering the fact that we don't have Bill books now, we could, in the course of.... before a vote is taken on this motion, have a moment so we can get copies of the Bill."

"Do you wish to persist in your Motion, Repre- sentative Burditt, or would you like to...."

"I would like to persit. I'd be delighted to let Mr. Duff have a copy of the Bill."

"Is there further discussion? Gentleman from Cook, Representative Shea."

"What's the posture? Are we going to hold these?"

"Representative Burditt says he would like to persist in his request for leave to put these... to take the Bill from the Table and put on Second Reading. That's what he just indicated. Gentleman from Cook.... on Third Reading I mean. Gentleman from Cook, Representative Berman."

"I raise a point of Order, Mr. Speaker. Once it's been placed on the Table, don't we have to have a day on the Calendar for placing a Motion? It's been on the Table for four months, five months."

"Well, the gentleman wishes to have the Bill taken from the Table and put on the Calendar of Third Reading. I don't know that he wants to do anyting beyond that today."

"I know. I believe we have to have a one day notice of that Motion on the Calendar before it can be called." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  42.

"Do you have a specific rule to which you refer, Sir?"

"I'll have to look the number up."

"O'kay you look there, we'll look up here. Repre- sentative Berman, we have not found such a Rule. Have you Sir? Do you have a specific, Rule, Representative Berman, to wish you would want to refer?"

"Still looking."

"Still looking. O'kay. Well, in the absence of a specific rule, Representative Berman, the Chair will have to rule that Representative Burditt is in order to ask leave of the House to put Senate Bill 658.... take Bill 658 from the Table and put on the Order of Third Reading. Representative Shea, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"If he wants to take it from the Table, I think it should go on Consideration postponed, where it was at the time it was Tabled. This Bill has been read a third time."

"That's right. If that's where it was, it will return...."

"This Bill has been read a third time. It's been voted on and didn't receive enough votes and then was put on Consideration Postponed."

"Then it should appear on the Calendar on the Order of Postponed Consideration if the House by either leave or 89 votes let's them take it from the Table. Representa- tive Berman, what purpose do you rise?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  43.

"Well, first, Mr. Speaker, I refer you to the Digest, and it shows that the motion that is being made now, has previously been made and lost. And would be my under- standing, therefore, that ah.... he would have to have made a motion to reconsider within a specific period, I think it's one day, and after that motion had failed. On June 28, this same motion to take from the Table shows in the Digest as having been made and lost. Mr. Speaker, I would like to explain why I raise these points. I think we're involved in a very dangerous precedent here, when the House is more or less at ease, and then the Sponsor rises to take a Bill from the Table that's been sitting dead for five months, six months. I would certainly have no objection if the maker of the original motion asked for leave to file the motion to be heard tomorrow and then we got a chance to look at the Bill. But to do it in this manner is just setting a dangerous precedent and I don't think it's in line with the purposes of our rules as to ah.... Rule 6, that says that all Bills that are going to be called on any particular day should be posted on a Calendar. I don't think we are safeguarding our prerogatives by proceeding in this manner. I don't know whether the Bill has justification or not, but I think we're taking dangerous precedent if the motion wants to be filed and voted on tomorrow, I certainly wouldn't raise this ah... procedural objection at that time." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  44.

"Representative Burditt, did you seek recogni- tion?"

"No."

"Well, I thought you might want to."

"Mr. Speaker, I'm perfectly willing to follow what- ever procedure is proper quite obviously. I might say to Representative Berman, for the last two days, I have been speaking to your Leadership about this. This is no surprise. I spoke to them first early yesterday morning and only because of the lateness of the hour did I raise the question today. We have not more than two legislative days left and I think this is an extremely important bill, as are 659 and 661. If you want to have the motion in writing, I would be glad to do that. If you want me to make a motion to waive the Rule that requires a one day. notice, I will be glad to do that, but I do want to get these .... this bill particularly back on the Calendar because it is a Bill which the municipalities of this State desperately needs. It passed the Senate, it came out of Committee with an overwelming vote and ah.... I submit it's a very close vote by which the Bill was de- feated when it was originally considered by the House, merits our reconsideration even at this late date. So, ah.... Mr. Speaker, ah.... I would like to follow your advice on whatever you want me to do in terms of procedure, but if my procedure is correct, I will renew my motion." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  45.

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Berman."

"Well, in response to Representative Burditt's com- ment, I don't doubt the importance of these Bills, but I do question the propriety. I'm not aware of any conversa- tion, George, that you may have had with my Leadership and I did ask them if there was any commitment on their part regarding moving this Bill, and I received a negative response as far as any commitment, but I think I would personally like to have a chance to see what the Bills are, to see in what posture they ah.... are at the present moment. I think your description as to their importance probably could have applied to ah.... 500 or a 1000 bills that we have disposed of in a negative manner in this last session, and I just think it's the wrong posture to take as far as allowing all of us to know what we are voting on and what we are considering at this hour to move a Bill from the Table and ah... personally, I would like to see a Motion considered tomorrow where overnight, we can take a look at the Bill, see what they do, and de- termine our posture. You may find tomorrow that there are 89 people who agree with you and want to move on it. Then I have no objection. I just don't think this is the proper, deliberated way to act on important legislation."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Burditt."

"Ah.... first let me say to Representative Berman that there's an amendment on this Bill which exempts Home Rule units, Art, and if that's relevant to your talk, ah.. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  46. But on It please know that Home Rule units are exempted. the merits of what you say, the reason for my motion today is so that People will know that the Bill is going on the Calendar. I'm not asking for a vote on the Bill today. I want the Bill only to be on the Calendar so that people will know it will be considered, everybody in the House will have an adequate opportunity to study the Bill on Consideration postponed because I do want to do what I can to get this Bill called before the Session ends. seems to me the most effective way to do that is to make this Motion today, get the Bill on the Calendar for our next Session tomorrow, or whenever it is and we'll be ready to go on it at that time on Consideration Postponed, but I didn't want to put it.... take it off of the Table, try to get it ah.... under consideration all in the same day. That, I think, would be a legitimate objection, on your part, but what I'm trying to do is exactly what you are suggesting; that is, give everybody another day to take a look at it."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Berman."

"I have a question to direct to the Clerk's office. Can we have copies of the.... there's three Bills, George? Of these three Bills distributed for tomorrow on our desks? 658, 659 and 661."

"Representative Burditt, the Clerk would like to know how large are the Bills? Are they many pages?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  47.

"No they're not. 658 is ah... 6 pages. 659 is 4 pages and 661 is 2 pages."

"The Clerk informs me he can have the copies on the members desk."

"Fine, then I withdraw my objection."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ewell."

"Mr. Speaker, I have a point of parliamentary inquiry."

"State your point."

"The point is that Senate Bill 658 according to the Digest, ah.... came to Third Reading, further consideration was postponed on June 24. On June 6, it was tabled. On June 28, there was motion made to take it from the Table and this Motion lost. Now, it's my understanding that once something has been lost, in this fashion, and once. we made a motion to kill all bills that ah... you know were on the Table, would not the Bill be dead or would we not have to now go through the process of suspending all of the appropriate rules just in order to get this Bill back on the Calendar?"

"Well, the point you make, Representative, is in essence the same point which Representative Berman made. However, the motions that were made ah.... prior.... I guess this Fall or late Summer were not motions to kill bills on the Table, but were motions to Table bills. So all Bills were on the Table."

"Well, once it's been on the Table, how many times can you make a motion to take it from the Table." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  48.

"Well, I'm not aware of anything in the Rules, and this is the same point Representative Berman made that limits, in our House Rules, that limits the number of ah.... times that motion could be put. There is reference in Roberts Rules, but not in the House Rules."

"Well, aren't you asking the..... Well, what's the legal status of the Bill? That's what I want to know."

"The Bill is on the Table."

"And how does one get it off the Table, after having failed the first time?"

"With leave of the House, one can put it back on the Table or there is a reference in Roberts Rules, that a motion to reconsider..... that you cannot reconsider a motion to take a Bill from the Table. Now, the gentle- man could put a motion to suspend that Rule if leave is not granted, although there's no specific rule in our House Rule."

"All right, well, objection's heard."

"O'kay. Representative Ewell, for what purpose do you arise?"

"Yes, I object to this procedure, Mr. Speaker, because I don't know how many lives this Bill is going to have, but apparently it's destine to have a few more than the normal course of events would dictate with anyother legis- lation. So I object to the procedure."

"Objection... Gentleman from Perry, Representative Cunningham." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  49.

"Mr. Speaker, set me straight on something. The Sponsor indicated that he was going to ask the same treatment for Senate Bill 659. Did I hear that right?"

"Yes, there are three Bills in a series I under- stand."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I think we're setting a very upsetting precedent here. If you'll notice that 659 was heard in County and Townships and was soundly defeated and was tabled that time by the action of the Committee. It hasn't even been approved by the Committee. Now his next motion here is going to be to try to dis- charge the Committee of their action back May 18, 1972. Now, if we keep this up, we're going to have about 5,000 more Bills real soon, because I've got some lou lou's that I'm going to ask to take off the Table or discharge the Committee, or I'm going to stay here until well past January 10. Now this can't go on forever, Mr. Speaker. We've beat these Bills in Committee. He's slicked one through over in the Municipalities and these Bills are not a damn bit better now then they were then. Nine lives has a cat. George Burditt's got some bad Bills."

"Well, Representative Cunningham, the point you make is similar to ah.... those made by the other Members, however, Representative Burditt, as a Members, has the right to put a motion if he wishes, in view of the fact that objections have been heard. Gentleman from Cook, Representative Burditt." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  50.

"Ah.... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ah.... in answer to Representative Cunningham, I would like to point out that his Committee recommended Senate Bill 661 do pass, not do not pass. 659 was recom- mended do not pass. 661 was recommended do pass. Ah.... second, I would like to say that I'm not.... the Committee has acted, so I don't have to move to discharge the Com- mittee. The Bills are no longer in Committee. The Bills are on the Table of this House and therefore, my motion will be simply to take them from the Table and those two Bills will go back on the Order of Second Reading, if the motion is carried, but Mr. Speaker, I ah .... will make the motion since objections have been heard."

"The gentleman from Cook, Representative Burditt, I assume has moved that Rule 92 be suspended so that he can once again ask that Senate Bill 658 be taken from the Table. We're on 658. Cover the one Bill. Do you have a question, Representative Ewell? Do you have a question?"

"Yeow. Is that motion in writing?"

"I don't believe a motion to suspend the rules has to be in writing.... well."

"I think if you read the rules, there's a section that says it must be in writing if a Member requests it."

"It is in writing and we'll bring it up to the Clerk's office now. Gentleman from Cook, Representative B. B. Wolfe." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  51.

"Mr. Speaker, a point of parliamentary inquiry."

"State your point."

"I understood the Speaker to say that failing to get leave of the House, a member would be subject to Roberts Rules... the Rule in Roberts Rules of Order con- cerning a motion to take from the Table a Bill on which. a previous motion to take from the Table had been entered and lost and that the Member would have to make a Motion to reconsider, in effect, what happened in that previous motion that's lost. Is that correct?"

"No... Ah... the Chair rules, in effect, that Representative Berman and Representative Ewell's point was well taken. In the absence of a Rule relative to the number of times a Member can ask to take a Bill from the Table, we then go to Roberts Rules, and Roberts Rules state that you cannot reconsider a motion to take from the Table. Well, now, in view of the ah... fact that their point was well taken, ah... Representative Burditt is now moving that ah... Rule 92 be suspended."

"If we suspend ah.... Rule 92, aren't we in effect going back to Roberts Rules of Order?"

"Well, Rule 92. Rule 92 states as I glance at it quickly that in the absence of a Rule in on own Rule Book, we can then go to Roberts Rules and Representative Burditt wishes to suspend ah.... that portion of Roberts Rules, which is relevant or germane to the subject of which he is now dealing. O'kay, the gentleman has moved. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  52. that ah.... Rule 92 be suspended. All those in favor of the Gentleman's motion to suspend Rule 92, signify by saying 'aye', the opposed 'no'. Oh, I thought you would do that. All those in favor of the gentleman's motion to suspend, signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On this question, there are 40 'ayes', 70 'nays', and the gentleman's motion to suspend Rule 92 fails. Do you wish to persist on the other two Bills, Representative Burditt."

"You've got to be kidding."

"It's a nice way to treat a retiring member, huh George? House Resolution 867."

"House Resolution 867. Davis. Whereas the immense mass discharging employees of the Comprehensive County Hospital held in Allied Medical Programs governing commission of Cook County will if carried through as announced, seriously impair the ability of the facilities under the jurisdiction of the Commission to deliver badly needed health services and have a disatrous economic effect upon the discharge of employees and their families; and whereas the loss of employment produced by mass discharge would have the affect of depressing economy and might lead to a substantial increase in welfare rolls; therefore be it resolved by the House of Representatives, 77th General Assembly, State of Illinois, that we respectfully, but earnestly request Comprehensive County Hospital Health and Allied Medical Programs governing_Commission of Cook GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  53. County imore a six weeks freeze upon the discharge of its employees; and be it further resolved that a suitable copy of this Resolution be forwarded to the Chairman, Secretary and the Executive Director of the Comprehensive County Hospital Health and Allied Medical Program Governing Commission of Cook County."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Davis."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Ah... there's an emergency in this Resolution, and I'm asking that Rule be suspended in that it be considered without reference to the Committee."

"All right, the Gentleman from Cook, Representative Juckett, did you seek recognition, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, I understand he's asking for unanimous consent and I would object."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Juckett, has objected. Do you wish to put it in the form of a motion, Representative Davis."

"Yes, I move that we suspend the Rules for immediate consideration."

"Is there any discussion? Gentleman from Cook, Representative Juckett."

"Mr. Speaker, will that Motion be put to the vote of the House?"

"Yes, Sir."

"Is that motion debatable?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  54.

"We put it right to a vote. The gentleman has moved that the appropriate Rule be suspended so that House Resolution 867 could be moved to the Order of Second Reading without reference to Committee. All those in favor of the gentleman's motion, signify by.... what? Oh, put on the Calendar. Oh, I'm sorry, Corneal. The gentleman has moved that House Resolution 867 be put on the Order of immediate consideration without reference to a Committee. All those in favor of the gentleman's motion, signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by voting 'no'. This will take 89 votes. Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Hanahan."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I support this Motion with a lot of deep seeded feeling on what is happening at the Cook County Hospital. I'm not a resident in Cook County and I don't pay taxes there, but if I were a resident in Cook County and I did pay my real estate taxes there, I'd want to see this Motion passed and this investigation of what's going on with Cook County Hospital immediately. It's a crying shame that a man that is making $66,000 a year, which isn't a lot of money for a Doctor, but could summarily discharge a 1000 working people at his own behest. Now this legislature is at fault in some regards that we have taken away the powers of the hiring and firing of the employees of Cook County Hospital and put it under some phoney commission, but it still stands only to reason that if there's any justification of GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  55. reducing a 1,000 working people, a thousand janitors, a 1000 LPN workers and culinary workers at Cook County Hospital because there's a reduction of patient care, that it would be just as right to reduce the doctors and the professional people and the administrators of Cook County Hospital proportionately, but once again, to salvage some sort of phoney excuse of getting rid of working people they didn't lay off any amounts of administrators; they didn't lay off any amounts of doctors which would reduce patient care. They just said, we'll do away with the working people there. I think that this should be investigated. I think what Corneal Davis, Representative Davis is after is justified in the Cook County Hospital mess, and I hope that this House supports Representative Davis."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Davis."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. I'd just like to explain my vote. I'm not against.... I'm not against... Of course, I'd.... the ah.... idea that they don't need People, but ah.... the simple fact is, that as a Member of this advisory committee on Public Aid, we have ah... paid a lot of money training these practical nurses and we put them in there in the County Hospital because they said they needed them. Now I say that just this whole- sale firing of these People, what we're asking the Com- mission to do is to hold up the wholesale firing of them and that there be some orderly procedure in it. If it is GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  an economy measure, I'm not against economy. 56. But I know that the practical nurses and a lot of them in my district are saying that they cannot get jobs and ah... what will happen? We've paid to train them on Public welfare and they are going right back on public welfare again. Another thing is, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, we're picking up when I say we, the taxpayers are picking up the tab over there, ah... for most of those welfare patients in the County hospitals and I would certainly rather see those practical nurses stay there, when doctors over there say that they do need some of them, rather than put them € out and throw them back on Public welfare. All I'm asking for is what the Resolution says; is that we respectfully and earnestly request that Comprehensive County Hospital Health and Allied Medical Program Govern Commission of Cook County to freeze the discharge of these important employees until such time as they can give it a public study to see whether or not they need some of them and throw them backón public welfare. Now, we're going to hear all of this singing about peace on earth and good will toward men. I have to preach a little, because I'm going to tell you something now, that you can sing all you want about peace, but peace is tend to God. Peace.... I'm explaining my vote. Give me a chance."

"Representative Juckett seeks recognition, Sir, ah... will you wait a moment, Sir?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  57.

"Mr. Speaker, I understand that ah... we are debating whether to suspend the Rule and we're not debating the purpose of the Resolution."

"The gentleman's point is well taken, Representative. Will you confine your remarks."

"I respectfully request, then, that you vote 'aye' on this. It is going to hurt."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Granata."

"Mr. Speaker, and Members of the House. This is the first time that I've enjoyed a democratic intraparty fight, and we naturally have to choose sides. I don't know anybody on the other side, but I know the Reverand Davis, and now that I have to take my choice, I've got to vote with my friend, Davis, and I vote 'aye'."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Juckett."

"Mr. Speaker, it's my recollection that on the Rules of the House this requires 89 votes as you so indicated or two-thirds voting on the issue. So I would suggest to the Members that this is a very important Resolution and that it covers a very important subject; a subject which has been debated in the press the last few weeks by members of various organizations, but a few years ago, we took the operation of the Cook County Hospital out of Cook County and created a special commission to run the hospital to avoid politics, and I would suggest that if this is an important issue that it be given a full and thorough hearing in the Committce of the House before we GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  58. start advising separate and distinct commissions what to do or what not to do and that we have all of the informa- tion before us, before we start freezing 1000 jobs here or there. So. I would suggest, and I would urge.... the Members to send it to....."

"Representative Barnes, what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"In all due respect to my colleague on the other sides, it seems to me he's doing the same thing he had questioned ah.... Representative Davis in doing. He's debating the issue, not whether or not ah.... it should be the rules should be bypassed, suspended. I think he should direct his remarks only to the Rules and not to the issue."

"Point is well taken, Sir. Do you wish to pro- ceed, Representative Juckett, the remainder of your time?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I was urging that this Resolution which is important and certainly important to the person who suggested it, that it be given a full and thorough hearing so that we can make an intelligent vote based on the recommendation and based on the facts and not on emotionalism of a great orator. I think that we have detailed this ruling or this governing of the Cook County Hospital to a Commission and before we arbitrarily take over their functions, we should have a hearing on the issue and I don't consider that a suggestion by a Member of a Commission or of a Resolution as a thorough hearing. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  59. And so I would urge a no vote and a referral to Committee and then let the Committee and the House decide."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative James Carter."

"I would like to ask this gentleman one question. Are you referring to the fact that the Legislative Investigating Commission is doing this job? Is that what you mean?"

"No, I'm referring to the Rules of the House that a Resolution would be sent to the appropriate committee. to consider the facts of the resolution."

"In that event, Mr. Speaker, I'd suggest we go ahead and take the vote and find out whether the Chairman of that Committee is right or whether he isn't, because he stands on both sides of the issue so many times, I don't where he is."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Peter Miller.

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I want to say that I'm sympathetic on firing workers who are dedicated doing a job, and I hope that the sponsor of this will do likewise when they start firing a lot of Republicans in the next couple of months for doint a dedicated and wonderful job, and I hope you'll have the same heartfelt feelings about when the Republicans are fired off of Civil Service jobs as you are now, and if you have and you do, I'll be very happy to support you on this if you'll do likewise to some of my poor workers. I only *GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  60: have 45 working for the State, but you'll have the same feeling. Well, I stand on my record to be checked here; If you want to check it. I've never had such few jobs under any Governor as I did under Ogilvie. Now I still carried them by 3700. I like to brag about it, but all I can say is that I think you should.... we should allow you the opportunity to find out why there is mass firings to dedicated workers and I say, I see nothing wrong with you finding out why and getting this permission, even though my buddy, Juckett here, shaking his head. I want to be fair in supporting you and I hope you'll remember that when we come forth when the next Governor starts to do likewise to Republicans who are dedicated employees."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative R. Hoffman.

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I think we are embarking here on a very dangerous trend as far as considering the aspect of a very serious situation in Chicago. Right now, we're considering a proposal that we do not have in front of us, where you're surping the Committee's position of considering this and obtaining the facts as to what lies behind this move and we're attempting at this point here to mandate and to dictate policy without appropriate consideration of all those concerned. I would ask everyone to reconsider their position on this vote and either abstain or vote against this motion to bypass Committee." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  61.

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ike Sims."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As long as Cook County Hospital happens to be in my District, I'd like to say for clarification that there are as many Republicans as there are Democrats working in the hospital, so it's not a political issue, and they are all from my area and the other areas around the west side. Thank you."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ewell."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If Representative Miller will supply me with the name of those Republican workers, I will do my very best to protect them."

"Have all voted who wished? Take the record. Will you take care of mine, too, Buzz? On this question, there are 95 'ayes', 8 'no's' and the gentleman's motion for suspension of the appropriate rule for immediate consideration of House Resolution 867 prevails. Gentle- man from Cook, Representative Davis."

"Mr. Speaker....."

"The gentleman has offerred to move the adoption of House Resolution 867. All those in favor of adoption, signify by saying 'aye'.... Gentleman from Cook, Repre- sentative Simmons."

"Well, under the previous debate, we were not sup- pose to discuss the merits or demerits of the Resolution; merely the suspension of the Rules, and therefore, I for GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  62. one would appreciate an explanation from the Sponsor just what this Resolution would do."

"The gentleman from Cook, Representative Davis."

"The Resolution will resolve by the House of Repre- sentatives that we respectfully, but earnestly request, the Comprehensive County Hospital Health and Allied Medical Program Govern Commission of Cook County, to impose a six weeks freeze upon the discharge of these employees, the wholesale firing of employees, and that a suitable copy of this Resolution be forwarded to the Chairman and the Secretary of the Executive Director of the Comprehensive County Hospital Health and Allied Medical Program Govern Commission. All we're asking them to do... you see, we spend so much money training these people especially these practical nurses, and there's no question about it. They just can't put black practical nurses every place they say they're putting them. I'm getting calls where they say we're not being hired, you see. Now, if there is a chance, since we've spent so much money training them, if there is a possibility that they are needed, and these doctors will know far better than I believe than the administrators, well. why not keep them there, because we're picking up the tab over there Public Aid is picking it up and they're going to be thrown, let's face it, if they can't find jobs right back on Public Aid and it's over a billion dollars now. And if we can avoid some of it and give them a job, this is what we want to know. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  63. Now, it will be in the hands of the Commission. Ah... on this Resolution, they will act by February, and if they don't need them, then they will have to dismiss them, but all we ask them to do is to recheck, because we haven't received any figures anyplace, except for what we've read in the papers, how many has been rehired and all this, but there's been no documentation of how many people have been rehired and I'm getting calls and calls and calls, especially from these practical nurses that we spent the taxpayers money training, I'm getting calls that they are not being rehired anyplace."

"Is there further discussion? If not, the gentle- man has moved that the House adopt Resolution 867. All in favor of adoption, signify by saying 'aye', the opposed 'no'. The Resolution is adopted. On the Order of Conference Committee Reports, which have been placed on your desks, appears Conference Committee Report, relative to Senate Bill 1290, for which purpose the gentleman from Knox, Representative McMaster is recognized."

"Ah.... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Conference Committee voted unanimously to adopt the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1290 and essentially, it offered this amendment ah.... it's a one line amend- ment. It says, 'This Section does not apply to any County that is a Home Rule unit.' In other words, the Cook County was amended out of the Bill. I think we have gone over the Bill ah.... many times and it involves GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  64. payment to the Counties for the cost of collecting and disbursing of the taxes for the various local units of government. I would ah.... urge your ah.... vote favor- ably upon this conference committee report. It has been passed and adopted in the Senate by a vote of 36 to 4."

"Is there any discussion? The gentleman from Kane, Representative Hill."

"Was the motion to put this back on the Calendar. Is that what the motion was?"

"No, this is a Conference Committee Report, Representative Hill, and there are copies on your desk."

"Goodness, gracious, this particular piece of legislation has had about nine lives. This is a piece of legislation that ah... had been blocked several different times in the House of Representatives, and now with the Federal. Revenue Sharing, giving various monies to the Counties, I feel more confident that a Bill of this nature is not needed. We will end up just taking more money eventually from the property tax payers. You can feel very confident that along the line someplace, this is going to happen and I would suggest to you, very seriously, to defeat this piece of legislation again."

"Representative Hanahan, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Is Senate Bill 1290 as an Conference Committee Report on the Calendar?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  65.

"No, Conference Committee Reports. It's not on the Calendar today."

"Then how could we vote on it if it's not on the Calendar?"

"Well, Conference Committee Reports do not have to be on the Calendar. We vote on them all the time, particularly in the closing days of the session. But they have been passed down there on your desk, Repre- sentative Hanahan."

"Then I would like to speak on the motion."

"Proceed, Sir."

"May I question the Sponsor, or the Chairman of the Conference Committee?"

"Certainly. He indicates he'll yield."

"How many counties in the State of Illinois presently are at there maximum tax rate?"

"I couldn't answer that question completely, ah.... Mr. Representative, I'm sure that probably, ah... I would guess probably 80% of them are."

"I understand, Sir, that there's only 18 or 19 counties that are at their maximum rate."

"I would be incline to disagree with you. I'm sure there are more than that, but again, I can't say exactly how many."

"All right, now, secondly, Sir, with the Revenue Sharing, what great needs are there in the Counties for this added amount of money to be taken away from the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  66. school districts and the other different taxing bodies that are in desperate need of money that need to be handed over to the county government?"

"Well, I'm quite sure that ah... the indication to me from the Courty is that Revenue Sharing is not going to be the complete answer. to County finances, Mr. Hanahan, and I certainly feel that neither is 1290 a com- plete answer to County finances. But certainly it is a step in that direction. I'm quite sure that the Counties are going to have to have some means of acquiring the necessary finances to pay for the employees and ah... various pay raises of employees that are coming before them. I think that we realize that any county's. functions are increasing in cost as any other cost is increasing to any unit of government and also in private industry, Tom."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Senate Bill 1290, we're going to add, if we pass this, we'd almost be hypocritical in what we're just talking about earlier today in tax freeze. It seems that we can't carry water on both shoulders. We can't be for a tax freeze, on one hand, and then take money away from tax bodies within a county levy group, by adding 1290 to the statute book and say we're going to allow a charge for collecting of taxes. Now somewhere along the line, we have to be honest with the People, in both County government and in State govern- ment. We can't carry the water two ways. We're either GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  67. yoing to say that we are in favor of a tax freezc or not. I don't believe that this is the right method of going about raising revenues for a County government. In McHenry, which has happens to be very much in favor of Senate Bill 1290, I oppose it on the basis of one thing that if our government, our county government needs more money to operate its system, both my Democratic Chair's office or any other office in County government, then be honest about it and go to the People and request it, not to impose another added tax on tax on all the other tax levy groups in the County in the collection of taxes. I think this is well debated before. The concensus was before in the House that we were in opposition of this imposition of added tax on tax and I think it should be soundly defeated."

"Gentleman from Lake, Representative Matijevich. cijevich: "Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I voted for this Bill when we had it up ah... in the House. And I thought it was needed to get the counties out of a bind, but time and events change. I think, now, that all of us who voted and supported C. L. McCormick in his tax freeze, ought to vote against Senate Bill 1290. The counties now have Revenue Sharing. Most of the People who have talked to us against the tax freeze have been the school districts and the municipalities, but the school districts are now getting into a bind and we are going to place them into a further bind, if we pass Senate Bill 1290. Revenue. Sharing has gotten the Counties out of that GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  68. Bind. They have the source, the Revenue source now for this collection. I don't think we need this Bill any longer, so I would urge the Members of the House to vote against the Conference Committee Report on Senate Bill 1290."

"Is there further discussion? The Gentleman from St. Clair, Representative Flinn."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I rise in support of Senate Bill 1290. I think there's been some misconceptions here and unintentionally so. In the first place, the necessity for Senate Bill 1290 came about because of the change in the Constitution, the 1970 Con- stitution stopped the counties from collecting a 3% tax from the various school districts and other special taxing districts. Not one of those districts to my knowledge cut their assessments. This amounted to a windfall. We are feeling sorry for the special taxing districts and the school districts and so forth and it was nothing in the world but more money in their pockets. There's no necessity for them to raise the type of property taxes in order to pay this. They already have the money now. They have the money in their special assessment that was not cut away, so I rise in support of the thing and I'm going to vote for it."

"Representative Hill, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"In the Rules of the House, ah.... Number 4 under Order GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  69. of Business, Number 6, it reads 'The Clerk under the direction of the Speaker shall publish a daily calendar and cause it to be placed on the desk of the Members before the convening of the House, showing all special orders of the day and all Bills and all Resolutions before the House, except those dealing with death, congratulations and adjournment, in their proper order of reading. Bills shall appear upon the Calendar in numerical order and those amended shall be so designated.' And I object hearing this particular piece of legislation under this Rule."

"Well, let me look at the Rules. Representative Matijevich, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Same point of Order, Mr. Speaker, because earlier you had said that we had always brought up special conference committee reports. However, if you remember, we always had supplemental calendars that let us know that these particular  70. Prior to that, we took it off of household furnishings and one automobile. We also passed a $1500 homestead exemption for the Senior Citizens and I understand the last day or two from.... before I came to Springfield, some of the cities and villages in the county where I come from are receiving half of the amount of the Revenue Sharing they expected to get. Now, if this holds true for the county, Ladies and Gentlemen, and we don't give them additional money for collecting these taxes, you're going to find yourself in a bind and in a year or two you'll be raising the income tax a percent or two to make up the difference. Now, I think the Bill ought to be passed."

"Let's see if we can squirm out of this thing somehow. Okay, the Chair will rule, Representative Matijevich, that your point is well taken, and there should have been a supplemental calendar on the desk. Gentleman from Knox, Representative McMaster, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Certainly, it has not been my intent to try to slip this through, Mr. Hill. Ah.... believe me, we have, I'm quite sure passed on many Conference Committee Reports and for this reason, ah.... due to your point of order, I would like to ask for the suspension of the Rules and the immediate consideration of this Bill."

"Gentleman has moved for the suspension of Rule No. 6 for the immediate consideration of Conference GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  71. Committee Report, relative to Senate Bill 1290. All those in favor of the gentleman's.... You wish a roll call Sir? All those in favor of the gentleman's motion, signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by voting 'no'. Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Hanahan."

"By way of explaining my vote, I'd just like to urge the Members to vote 'no' on this. I notice in absence of the Constitutional Convention delegates to explain why in the Constitution. They, in the new Constitution, recom- mended to the People of Illinois that we do not allow counties to add on in tax, and noticably in the debate, we haven't heard from any of the Con Con, the former Con Con delegates in explaining why the Constitutional Con- vention urge a none retaining of the add on tax for tax levying groups or county government."

"Have all voted who wished? Duff 'aye'. Take the record. On this question, there are 68 'ayes', 38 'nays', and the gentleman's ..... Representative McMaster, for what purpose do you rise?" McMaster: Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, Since we cannot get the necessary votes to suspend the Rules to work on this Bill tonight, I would like to have it on the Calendar tomorrow morning in order that we may vote on it then. I would like to point out to the various gentlemen, that the various copies have been distributed and are on the desks. I would ask them to familiarize themselves with it and ah.... if it is on the Calendar GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  72. I understand that we can vote on it tomorrow. Is this correct?"

"That's correct, Sir, or a supplemental calendar."

"Supplemental Calendar.tomorrow or when?"

"It will be under.... The Clerk tells me it will be under Regular Calendar tomorrow."

"Fine."

"O'kay, and the gentleman's motion fails. Repre- sentative Kennedy, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd just like to know when you plan on going home, that's all? I thought maybe somebody might be getting hungary. We ought to do something."

"I'm trying to find out now."

"I say Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'm just curious as to when you plan to.adjourn this General Assembly?"

"I'll find that out for you in just a few moments. Representative Hoffman, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Just a point of information. Ah.... immediately upon adjournment today, would the Members of the House Divorce Lawyers Study Committee stay for a few seconds before leaving?"

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Hyde."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I now move that the House stand in recess for a period of 15 minutes for purposes of a Republican Conference in GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  73. Room 212 immediately."

"Gentleman from Union, Representative Choate."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would like those remaining Democrats to ah.... meet with me in Room M-5 for a period of 10 to 15 minutes."

"O'kay, all in favor, signify by saying 'aye', the opposed 'no'. The House will stand in recess for 15 minutes.

"All right, we'll go back into the Regular Session now, from which we recessed, and we'll go to the Order of Agreed Resolutions."

"House Joint Resolution 152.

"House Joint Resolution 152. Laurino et al. House Joint Resolution 861. Madigan. M. Madigan. House Resolution 862. M. Madigan. House Resolution 863. Welsh et al. House Resolution 864. Welsh et al. House Resolution 865. Welsh et al. House Resolution 866. Arrigo et al. House Resolution 867....."."

"One moment, for what purpose does the gentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walsh, arise?"

"Mr. Speaker, on House Resolution 873, I ah.... want some affirmation from the Chairman of the Executive Committee that there would be a meeting. Mr. Speaker, I wonder if he could be recognized for suspension of the appropriate rule?" GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  74.

"All right, we're.... we'll get to those shortly. We're on agreed resolutions right now. As soon as we finish those, we'll get to the one you're referring to."

"House Resolution 868. Rayson et al. House Resolution 869. Schlickman et al. House Resolution 870. Leon et al. House Resolution 871. Lechowicz et al. House Resolution 872. Caparelli et al. House Resolution 874. Shea et al. House Resolution 875. Taylor et al. House Resolution 876. Walters et al. House Resolution 877. Hanahan et al. House Resolution 878. Jacobs et al. House Resolution 879. Fary et al. House Resolution 880. Londrigan etal. House Resolution 881. Fary et al. House Resolution 882. Carroll et al. 883. Palmer et al. 884. Terzich et al. 886. Lechowicz et al."

"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the really high spot of the evening, the agreed resolutions. House Joint Resolution 152 ah.... takes umbrage at a game called the 'Godfather Game' which pur- ports to let players fight for control of rackets testing their skills at bookmaking, extortion, bootlegging, longsharking and hijacking and this Resolution deplores and condemns the distribution of the Godfather Game in the State and urges the manufacturer, Family Games, Inc., to withdraw the Godfather game from circulation in the interest of the public good. House Resolution 861 con- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  75. gratulates seven schools in South Stickney School District on their achievements ah.... and for their programs to date and supports their continued effort. These schools are the Luther Burbank, Richard E. Burr, Jacqueline Kennedy, Rosajean Maddock, Francis McCord, Marjorie Owens and Edward J. Tobin Schools. House Resolution 862 commends the Vikings of ah... St. Lawrence High School, who were the city champions and their Coach Cavanaugh upon ah.... their football successes. House Resolution 863 commends the legendary Dick Allen, first baseman and power hitter of the Chicago White Sox and most valuable player. House Resolution 864 commends the legendary Harry Kari, the exciting Chicago White Sox baseball broadcaster. House Resolution 865 commends the legendary Chuck Tanner, Manager of the Chicago White Sox. House Resolution 866 mourns the passing of Mrs. Marie Walker. House Resolution 868 ah... commends one of our fine legislators, who is retiring and I would yield to Representative Rayson, if he is on the Floor. Is Representative Rayson over there, Mr. Mann? In the absence of Representative Rayson, I will read part of this resolution. And it says 'Whereas the 78th General Assembly will not have the benefit of the competent, good humor, and experience of one of our colleagues and his performance as a Member of this House for eight terms has resulted in many well deserved awards and honors including best legislator award from the independent voters of. Illinois in 59, 63, 65, 67, 69 and in 1970 he was dis- GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  76. tinguished by the Illinois Trial Lawyers Association and in 1971 by the Chicago Bar Association; and whereas his track record as a lawyer, legislator is deeply concerned with honesty, openness, and ethics in government and with the interest of the People of this State, have caused Governor-elect Dan Walker to designate him as Chairman of the Illinois Racing Board; therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 77th General Assembly that we commend, congratulate and thank Anthony Scariano for his long and distinguished legislative career and for his accomplishments and contributions to the legislative process and toward furthering the Public interest and we extend to Tony and his lovely wife, Lea, and his fine Sons, Anthony, Gail and John Kevin, every good wish to the future. Tony Scariano. House Resolution 869 ah.. commends Harvey Caruthers, the fire chief of Arlington Heights, who is retiring after 36-1/2 years. House Resolution 8.... May the record show on the Scariano Resolution, everyone agrees, but Mr. Choate. House Resolution 870 commends Stanley Leck upon obtaining the age of 65 and ah.... his fine work for the Chicago Transit Authority. House Resolution 871 memoralizes the passing of the Reverend Harold Seager. House Resolution 872 mourns the death of the Assistant Superintendent of Sanitation of the City of Chicago, Mr. George Morrow. House Resolution 874 memoralizes and expresses the shock and sadnness of this Body at the death of United States Representative, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  77. George W. Collins, who died in the tragic crash of the jet airliner Friday, December 8, 1972. House Resolution 875 memoralizes and expresses the sorrow of this Body over the death of the very talented, young CBS News correspondent, Miss Michelle Clark, on that same air crash. House Resolution 876 memoralizes our sorrow and deep grief at the passing and the untimely death of our good friend, former United States Senator and former Speaker of this House, the Honorable Ralph Tyler Smith. House Resolution 877 congratulates Charles A. Thompson, on his retirement as Secretary-Treasurer of the Chicago District Council of the Carpenters Union. House Resolution 878 commends one of our colleagues, the Honorable Russ Hamilton, our distinguished friend and colleague from the 42nd District who is retiring at the completion of this Assembly. Whereas he was borne in Kankakee in 1904 and has served the People of that area well in the General Assembly for two terms and has also served the People of that area as a Member of numerous service organizations and we'll miss his warmth and friendship as well as his wit and wisdom. And it's the desire of this House of Representatives to wish him and his wife, Dorothy, good luck and happiness in retirement; therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives that this Body commends C. R. "Russ Hamilton for his years of outstanding service and that we wish him an enjoyable and health retirement and that a suitably engrossed copy of this Resolution be GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  78. presented to Representative Russ Hamilton. House Resolu- tion 879 memoralizes the 20th anniversary of an organization known as the Glass Clinkers Society. House Resolution 880 mourns the passing of Mr. George W. Nelson of 82 of Springfield. House Resolution 881 ah.... praises and honors public spirited people such as Joe and Jean Spellman. House Resolution 882 ah.... expresses our regret at the passing of Paul Crystal. House Resolution 883 memoralizes and honors the 100th birthday of Delya Meister, a respected member of her community. House Resolution 884 honors the Honorable Frank C. Wolf, our distinguished colleague from the 21st Representative District of Chicago, who happens to be serving his 10th consecutive term in the House of Representatives. Whereas Representative Wolf was borned, reared and educated in Chicago, Illinois and has lived all of his life in the area and he is so outstandingly represented for precisely two decades with superior ability to serve, honor and untagered integrity, while giving attention to the State's financial help, which is dependent upon legislation. Whereas by both education and experience. prior to his first election to this House for the 68th Session, he was well prepared by attending YMCA Business College and Northwestern University, later specializing in Accounting and Business Administration, and he served in an administrative capacities in the House of Corrections and the Board of Inspector, City of Chicago and the Chicago City Treasurer; GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  79. And whereas his Committee Assignments in this Body, for the most part, were made to utilize his expertise in finance and administration, and included financial institutions, credit regulations, pensions and trans- portation; and whereas we will miss his friendly attitude and dignity which he mingled with a sense of humor and administrative wisdom; Therefore, be it resolved by this House that we commend the Honorable Frank C. Wolf for 10 consecutive sessions in the General Assembly on his capable and dedicated service to the People of his District and to the People of the State of Illinois. Frank Wolf. House Resolution 886 mourns the passing of Mr. Stephen Rakowski, who is stepfather of United States Representative Roman Kosinski. I now move, Mr. Speaker, adoption of the agreed Resolution."

"Gentleman has offered the move of the adoption of the agreed resolutions. All those in favor, signify by saying 'aye', the opposed 'no'. The Resolutions are adopted. Are there further resolutions?"

"House Resolution 873. W. D. Walsh et al." A. Telcser: Gentleman from .... Representative Juckett will handle it."

"Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House. I would ask for the suspension of Rule 17 so that this Resolution could be heard in an Executive Committee meeting tomorrow at 10:00 AM." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  80.

"Does the gentleman have leave? Hearing no objection, the resolution will be heard at 10:00 AM tomorrow morning in the Executive Committee in Room M-5. I guess we'll be here. Representative Walters, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to call to the attention to the Members of this Body that House Resolution 876 was memoralizing the former United States Senator and former Speaker of this House, Ralph Tyler Smith. Was introduced by Representative Calv, Kennedy and myself, and I would invite any and all of you to join with us in that particular resolution. Thank you."

"Representative Choate, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?"

"Well, I'm sure, Mr. Speaker, that there would be no . objection by any member of the House, and I would move that all Members of the House be added to the Resolution for the former Speaker, inasmuch as the Chief Sponsor has invited us all to be there."

"Is there leave. Hearing no objection, the Clerk will put the names of all the members in the House as co-sponsors. Gentleman from Cook, Representative Hyde."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, I now move that this Regular Session of the House stand adjourned until the hour of 11:00 AM tomorrow morning."

"All right, all those in favor of the gentleman's motion, say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES  81. and the ah... Regular Session is adjourned until the hour of 11:00 AM tomorrow. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES