"A message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secre- tary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has concurred with the House in the Bill with the following title, veto of the Governor to the contrary, not withstanding. House Bill 4180, con- curred in by the Senate December 15, 1972, by a 3/5ths vote. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Message from the Senate by Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has adopted the following Conference Committee Report: House Bill 2416, adopted by the Senate December 15, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Ah.... Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has adopted the following Conference Committee Report: Senate Bill 1290, adopted by the Senate December 15, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has concurred with the House in the adoption of the following Joint Resolution to wit, House Joint Resolution No. 142, concurred in by the Senate December 15, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary.. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Repre- sentatives the Senate has concurred with the House in the adoption of House Amendment No. 1 to a Bill with the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES following title: 3. Senate Bill 1512, concurred in by the Senate December 15, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has concurred with the House in the adoption of House Amendment No. 3 to a Bill with the following title: Senate Bill 1281. Concurred in by the Senate December 15, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has passed a Bill with the following title and passage of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House. Senate Bill 1613, 1614, 1615, 1616, 1617, 1619, 1620, 1621. Passed by the Senate December 16, 1972 by 3/5ths vote. Kenneth Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I am directed to inform the House of Representatives the Senate has concurred with the House to pass the Bill with the following title: House Bill 4698, 4700, and 4704, 4705. Passed the Senate December 16, 1972, by 3/5ths vote. Kenneth Wright Secretary."
"House Bill Second Reading. 4711."
"House Bill 4711. A Bill for an Act making an appropriation to Local Governmental Law Enforcement Officers Training Board. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."
"Any Amendments from the Floor? Third Reading. 4722." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES F. Selcke: "House Bill 4722. Bill for an Act to amend Section 4 of an Act creating the Illinois Econimic and Fiscal Commission hence forth. Second Reading of the Bill." No Committee Amendments."
"Any from the Floor? Third Reading. Senate Bills, Third Reading. 1515 through 1520."
"Senate Bill 1515. An Act to amend Section 11-61- 3 of the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1516. An Act to amend Section 8-6-2 of the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 15-17. An Act to amend Section 9-2-48 hence forth of the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1518. An Act to amend Section 11-141-3 of the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Ill. Senate Bill 1519. An Act to Amend Section 2 an Act to authorize a period of time public corporations are to issue bonds. Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 1520. An Act to amend Sections 8-1-12 of the Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."
"Gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Campbell.
"Ah.... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. First of all, Mr. Speaker, I want to compliment you, with your graciousness for having called these Bills at all. In.... Since 1963, when I first became a Member of this House, I have never had such a simple piece of legislation complicated by the antics of a Senate sponsor, in the manner that I have here. It's taken almost eight GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 5. months to get these off the Table. But in spite of the Senate sponsor, with your help, I shall overcome. We do need a three-fifths vote, and I will appreciate your support on these Bills. Thank you very much."
"All right, is there further discussion? All right, are we going to take them on one roll call?"
"Yes, and by the way, these are the ah... Bills which extend the interest rate for one year up to a maxi- mum of seven percent on municipal bonding."
"All right, the question is, shall these Bills pass?"
"They do not affect homerule districts."
"All those in favor will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no', and it requires three-fifths. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. On each of these questions, there are 124 'ayes', and 6 'nays' and each of these Bills, having received the required three-fifths vote, ah.... is hereby... each are hereby declared passed. Hanahan 'no'. On the Calendar on the Order of Vetoes, 1424, Senate Bill 1424. Gentle- man from McLean, Mr. Hall. Consideration postponed on Senate Bill 1424."
"Mr. Speaker, would you remove from the Order of Consideration Postponed to Table."
"All right, does the gentleman have unanimous consent to Table 1424? Hearing no objection, it will be tabled. Now, on the Speaker's Table, on the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 6. Order of Conference Committee Reports, appears a Report with respect to House Bill 2416, on which the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Madison, Mr. Calvo."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, it gives me great pleasure to stand before you after some six months absence concerning House Bill 2416. This is the same Bill that passed the House about that long ago. It's in a little better shape now than it was then, par- ticularly in the Conference Committee Report that has now been adopted. The one big objection that the engineers of the Sanitary District as it now exists had to the Bill was that at the proposed Bill we voted on before, the St. Clair division of the District would have been treating and taking care of the drainage storm water from our County. This Bill, as it now exists, provides that we will pay and take care of that and relieve them of that obligation and expense, which is as it should be. I would ask your favorable support in the adoption of the Conference Committee Report."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Simmons."
"Ah.... would the Sponsor yield to a question?"
"He indicates he will."
"Is there any significance why there are no Republican House Members that signed this?"
"Well, I believe there's only two house members signed. One was a Republican, Mr. Simmons, and one was a Democrat, one of course, being myself. Mr. Tom McMaster, being the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 7. other signer from the House." It is not, you know, a political Bill. Bob Walters is a co-sponsor."
"All right, ah... the question is shall the House adopt the Conference Committee Report? All those in favor, will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. All right. All right, this requires three-fifths. Have all voted who wished? Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 124 'ayes', 1 'nay' and ah.... this Conference Committee Report, having received ah.... three-fifths vote, House Bill 2416, is hereby declared passed. 1290." All right, on the Speaker's Table, on the Order of Conference Committee Reports, appears a Report with respect to Senate Bill 1290, on which the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Knox, Mr. McMaster ."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.... we discussed this Bill last night. There is no further discussion. I ah.... would ah.... appreciate your affirmative vote."
"All right, any further discussion? Question ..... Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Hill."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, again we're confronted with Senate 1290. And as I have in the past, spoke against this piece of legislation, eventually along the line, it's going to be a vehicle to increase the property tax. I know the sponsor will say it will not, but it's a Bill that should not be in front of us again and I certainly would appreciate it very much GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 8. if you would vote in opposition to it as you have so many times in the past."
"Further discussion? Question's on the adoption of the Report. All those in favor, will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. This requires three-fifths vote. Have all voted who wished? Clerk will take the Record. Gentleman from Knox, Mr. McMaster."
"I would like to ask the Speaker to take this from the record for the present."
"All right, does the gentleman have leave? All right, we'll take Senate Bill 1290 out of the record. Constitutional Amendments, First Reading. SJR CA 78." F. Selcke: Senate Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 78. First Reading of the Resolution."
"Second Reading. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde, "on that Motion to Table."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, yester- day, I introduced a Bill, House Bill 4721, to appropriate a million dollars to the State's Attorney of Cook County for hiring investigators. Ah.... since that time, I've talked to Mr. Cary, the new States Attorney up there and he ah... is satisfied that the County Board of Cook County and Sheriff Elrod are ah... instituting measures of cooperat- tion so that the 84 policemen that were taken from the office of States Attorney ah.... shortly after ah.... the election, will be replaced by ah... People from the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 9. Sheriff's office and ah.... in view of the fact that he is satisfied that he will have adequate investigative staff and other personnel, ah... then if he's satisfied, then certainly I am, and therefore, ah... as a gesture of my good faith in President Dunn, and Sheriff Elrod, I'm asking leave of the House to Table House Bill 4721."
"All right, does the gentleman have leave? All right, we'll table. All right, on the Order of Constitutional Amendments, Third Reading, appears HJR CA 11, on which the Chair recognizes gentleman from Cook, ....."
"House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 11. Third Reading of the Resolution."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Fleck.".
"Well, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Joint Resolution 11 is merely a limitation upon the Governor's amendatory veto powers, giving him the amendatory veto, only in the cases of technical error or form, placing a limit upon his ability to legislate and return Bills as we have seen happen in the last two years back to the House or the Senate, with changes of substance made where the House or the Senate is forced to accept the recom- mendation due to the fact that there would be no bill unless we did. I'm very happy to say that I introduced this Bill last year when there was a Republican Governor and it had a full and complete hearing in the executive committee and it brought it a tear to my eye and a lump GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 10. in my throat to see such capable legislators as Gerald Shea and Clyde Choate support this fully in Committee, and I know with their support now, that this Bill will pass unanimously through the House, and I'm asking for all your support in helping to get this through the House, so we can get it over to the Senate and get some action. Thank you very much."
"Is there discussion? All right, hearing none, question is, shall the House adopt House Joint Resolution CA 11. All those in favor, will vote 'aye' and the opposed 'no'. This requires a three-fifths vote. Have all voted who wished? Clerk will take the record. Craig 'aye'. This question, there are 108 'ayes' and 2 'nays', and this Resolution is adopted. For what pur- pose does the gentleman from Cook, Mr. J. J. Wolf, rise?"
"Mr. Speaker, having voted on the prevailing side, I now move the vote by which this ah... Constitutional Amendment No. 11 was adopted be reconsidered."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. D. J. O'Brien."
"Mr. Speaker, I move that motion lie on the Table."
"All right, all those in favor of the gentleman's motion, say 'aye', the opposed 'no', and the gentleman's motion to reconsider is Tabled. Agreed Resolutions."
"House Resolution ah... 888. Mike Madigan et al. House Resolution 889. Waddell et al. House Resolution 890. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 11. O'Hallaren. House Resolution 892. Carroll et al. House Resolution 893. Calvo et al."
"Gentleman from Cook, ah.... Mr. Hyde."
"Ah.... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Resolution 888 ah.... if I may read briefly from it. 'The Honorable Michael McDermott, distinguished and genuinely respected representative from the 25th District, is now serving his ninth term as 'our colleague in this Body and is retiring after this Session. And Representative McDermott is retiring after this Session. And Representa- tive McDermott was borned, reared and education in Chicago, Illinois, where he established a formidable record in local government in which his name was synonomous with the county clerk's office and the Democratic party, not only in the 13th Ward, where he was committeeman, but throughout Chicago and he served his country for three years in world war II with the 438th troop carrier com- mand, one year, which was spent overseas; and whereas he served with outstanding ability in his committee assign- ments including municipal corporations, eh.... cities and villages, Revenue, as well as on the House Floor in de- bate, and parliamentary stagedy; whereas we will miss his friendship and strong support in legislative matters, de- signed to improve the lot of man, our State government and "the Nation; therefore be if resolved that we commend the Honorable Michael McDermott on his capable and dedicated GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 12. service to the People of his representative district and all the People of Illinois and that we congratulate our- selves on having had the privilege to serve in the House with him for nine terms and share the experiences which he made memorable by his wit and affectious personality. We wish him success and the best of health and that the wind will always be on his back for the rest of life's journey."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McDermott."
"Gentlemen, let's.... it's a long time, eighteen years down here, but I've enjoyed the eighteen years to the utmost. And it's with a great deal of pleasure and ah.... to see this august body and be a Member of it and I'm going to come back and meet you and greet you and say hello on different occasions."
"House Resolution 889. The Honorable Lester Cunningham, our distinguished colleague from Belvidere, Illinois, who's now serving his third term in this Body, is not returning; and whereas Representative Cunningham became a Member of the House and an active Member of our legisla- tive community, after having served two years as an alder- man for the City of Belvidere, Illinois and seventeen years as it illustrious Mayor; whereas his Committee Assignments in this Body as Chairman of the Municipal Corporations Committee and of his Cities and Villages Division, made valuable use of his many years of experience with the actual problems of municipal corporation, which he gained GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 13. as alderman and chief executive officer of one of them for twenty years in the City of Belvidere; and whereas he has been the chief sponsor of much of the very im- portant legislation affecting cities, railroads and revenue and as a sponsor of a great many bills affecting city civil service, crime, elections, highways, public aid, public utilities, real property, banking, financing, taxes and townships, to list but a few. And whereas he was a very active member of the business, fraternal, religious and social communitiy of the City of Belvidere, and has established himself in all ways in our legislature community during his six years as one of us, he is such an affable and gregarious person who has added such enjoy- ment to our common bond of association in our official duty as representatives of the People that we shall miss him when we convene in the 78th General Assembly; There- fore, be it resolved that we heartedly commend our good friend and highly respected colleague, the Honorable Les Cunningham, Representative from Belvidere on his three terms of dedicated and outstanding service to the People of his district and to the whole state, and we wish him success, good health and much rewarding fulfill- ment for the future. House Resolution 890 ah... con- gratulates Mr. and Mrs. Charles Pealer of Chicago on their Silver Wedding Anniversary. House Resolution 892 Whereas the Honorable John P. Downes will retire fol- lowing the adjournment of the 77th General Assembly; GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 14. and whereas he was educated in Chicago, grade and high schools and has been a life-long resident of Chicago land, has raised his two lovely daughters there and represented his district well; Whereas the strong, up- standing and public spirited member of his community, he has been active in religious and civic affairs all his adult life; and whereas during sixteen years in the House and membership in the 70th, 71st, 72nd, 73rd, 74th, 75th, 76th and 77th General Assemblies, he has shown a remarkably complete and detailed graft of the affairs of the Committees on Elections and Revenues; Therefore, be it resolved that we express our deep appreciation and admiration for the accomplishments of John P. Downes, during his long tenure in this Body, that we voice the appreciation of the People of Illinois. for his work and we congratulate him on his retirement and wish him well in his future endeavors. House Resolution 893 commends Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville for its 1972 Intercollegiate Soccer Season, wherein it was undefeated and ranked fourth in the Nation and became the first University in the Nation to win the NCAA Intercollegiate Division Soccer Championship. House Resolution....."
"Further Agreed Resolutions. House Resolution 894. Hyde et al. House Resolution 895. Carroll et al."
"House Resolution 894 ah.... Whereas our beloved college, the Honorable Peter J. Miller will voluntarily retire from this House January 10, 1973, after serving GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 15. 22 years in the General Assembly, both as Senator and Representatives; and whereas the tenure and vigor of his long service has marked him as an institution in our State Capitol, and his commitment and dedication to the Republican Party has been demostrated by his unmatched record as precinct captain and committeeman of the 36th Ward in Chicago; and whereas his unmatched record in the field of competitive sports has been mani- fested by years of service as Athletic Director of the Catholic Youth Organization and U.S. Olympic Speed Skating Coach, as well as being the undefeated coach and pitcher of the House softball team; and whereas no legislator can claim more devotion to his constituents over the years than Peter J. Miller, nor greater devotion to the Republican Party, has demostrated in his resignation as nominee for re-election so that the House Majority Leader might run in his place; Therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives that we express our admiration for Representative Peter J. Miller and we wish him well in his retirement and express our confidence that his ser- vice to his constituents and the People of Illinois will continue for many years to come."
"Gentleman from Vermilion, Mr. Craig, for what purpose do you rise?"
"Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the unanimous con- sent for Pete to come back and coach our ball team years, and the future years because I do want to commend him THE STATE OF ILLING GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 16. for taking an active part and really keeping the House ball team going all through the years that I've been here and he's certainly been interested, so I would like to see him to come back and help us out in the future years to come."
"Ah.... Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 895, Whereas the Members of this House ah.... have had the honor and the privilege of having within their ranks for the past eight years a man who has had an outstanding and distinguished record of service to the People of this State, the Honorable John J. Houlihan has also had a distinguished record of service to the People of this State through service outside this Body, having served as President of Local Number 28, AFFCME AFLCIO, as chief deputy treasurer of Will County and as Chairman in 1965 of the Park Forest March of Dimes, and is presently a delegate to the Will County Labor Council, AFLCIO, a member of the national association of county treasurers and finance officers and the Illinois County Treasurers Association; and whereas he has faithfully served his party as being President of the Eastern Will County Democratic Club and Precinct Committeeman; and whereas he has faithfully served his country, being an amputee, resulting from service in the Marine Corps during World War II, a holder of the Purple Heart and three battle stars earned in the Pacific Theatre, a Member of St. Joseph Post 1080, American Legion, VFW, DAV and Marine Corps League; Therefore, be GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 17. it resolved by this House that we commend and congratulate our distinguished colleague, the Honorable John J. Houlihan for whom we have the highest praise on his fruitful and meritorious career in this Body and that we wish him continuing success in every future endeavor."
"All right, the question is on the adoption of the Agreed. Resolutions. All those in favor, say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Are there further Resolu- tions?"
"House Resolution 887. Douglas et al. House Resolution 891. W. D. Walsh et al."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walsh."
"We're on ah... House Resolution 891? Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to suspend the provisions of ah.... Rule 53A for the immediate ah.... consideration and adoption of House Resolution 891. The reason for this is that ah.... this takes the place and is a compromise for House Resolution 873, which was referred to the Executive Committee yesterday and ah.... was to be heard this morning. However, there was not a quorum in the Executive Committee, although there was very nearly a quorum, and we discussed the resolution at some length. The Chairman of the Executive Committee voiced some concern about it and I believe he was the only one. Ah.... and we have, via since, gotten together with GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 18. him and ah.... arrived at some compromised language and for this reason, I make this motion to suspend the rule for the immediate consideration of this House."
"Ah.... the ah.... yes, would the Minority Leader.... has requested that the Resolution be read, so he can listen to what it is."
"House Resolution 891. Whereas the 75th General Assembly declared it to be in the Public interest to appropriate fifty four million dollars via the Illinois Building Authority for construction of six four-hundred bed long-term residential care institutions for the men- tally retarded; and this was reaffirmed by this 76th and 77th General Assemblies; and whereas only two of these institutions have advanced into the construction stage, modeled after the Ludmann Center in Park Forest Illinois, which has opened operations; and whereas in the year since the original appropriation for the centers, new methods have been employed to deliver services to the mentally retarded, for example, with community settings; and where- as the cost of construction, operation of the centers as proposed has been found to be substantially higher than the cost of mental retardation centers elsewhere in Illinois, which has proven to be effective in programming and service; now, Therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 77th General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that we direct the Department of Mental Health to re-evaluate the construction of the six residential OF THESTATOS ILLINO AL GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 19. care institutions and to direct its planning for the four centers not yet under construction toward alternative theories and care for the mentally retarded, particularly the programming and setting affected at the Murray Center in Centralia, Illinois and the Fox Center in Dwight, Illinois in accord with more current information and accepted model of care for mentally retarded persons."
"All right, the question's on the gentleman's motion to suspend the provisions of Rule 53A so that this Resolution may be considered ah.... at the present time without reference to Committee. It requires 89 votes or 2/3rds of those voting on.... Oh sure, is there objection? All right, ah... hearing no objection, then the rule will be suspended and the Resolution may now be considered. Yes, Gentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walsh."
"Now, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'll briefly explain the Resolution and the reasons for offerring it. I had occasion recently to visit the Ludemann Center in Park Forest, which is a prototype for the six new centers for the mentally retarded in North- eastern Illinois. This center, consists of fifty resident- like places on about 30 acres of land so the fifty units are widely separated and in each one, there are eight retarded and there are eight staff members who are working around the clock to care for them.. Now, the cost to care for ah.... one retarded child or adult in this center comes GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 20. to about $55 per day or about $20,208 per year. And these figures I got from the House Appropriations Committee Staff which had some time ago made an analysis of these centers. The cost by comparison at the Murray Center in Centralia which I know from personal knowledge is an excellent facility is about $22 a day or about $8,240 per year per patient. Now, Mr. Speaker, the concept of home-like atmosphere may be a very good one and ah.. I think perhaps should be pursued and we're going to have ample opportunity to do this in the Ludeman Center and in the two centers under construction now. One at Waukegan and one at Tinley Park. However, I think it's a mistake to pledge the $36,000,000 for four additional centers if we find indeed that the cost is not justified by the result at the three centers underway now. This then is my reason for offering the resolution. I've talked with Dr. Sloan of the Division of Retardation Services. He said he had no objection to the resolution and I therefore move its adoption."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Harold Washington."
"Would the sponsor yield to a few questions?"
"Ah.. he indicates he will."
"Ah.. this resolution was up in the Executive Committee this morning. But it was not heard. Is that correct?"
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walsh."
"Ah.. it was not heard because there was not a quorum GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 21. of the Executive Committee present. It was, however, discussed with about ten members of the Executive Committee who did turn up for the meeting."
"All right. Now the $54,000,000 appropriated.. When was that appropriated, Representative Walsh?"
"It was originally appropriated in the 75th General Assembly.. Reappropriated in the 76th and appropriated and reappropriated again in the 77th General Assembly."
"And the purpose of your resolution is to dispense with the entire program at this point, is that correct?"
"No, not at all. The purpose of this resolution and it's very explicit in this, is to take a look at the concept being used at the Ludeman Center and the two other centers under construction before committting the balance of $36,000,000. Now, if indeed they find that this is not justified, then centers such as those at Centralia, at Harrisburg and at Dwight could be constructed."
"Well, we have presume then in light of the fact that $54,000,000 was appropriated that some concerted, deep-seeded and statistical thought when into the final conclusion. At least I have to assume that much. Conse- quently I'm somewhat non-plus as to why we should move now as we go into a new session January 10. Couldn't we wait until then and give some time and study to the resolution itself. Because it is ah.. apothegm of information in the resolution. It's a one-page deal. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 22. It has some figures and facts which seems to me call for exhaustive examination of certain witnesses involved in the program. And what I'm getting at is it is a mistake for us to take any percipitive.. any action here prior to a full blown discussion and hearing on your resolution."
"Well, may I say that I did talk to Dr. Sloan. He is the Chief Officer in the Department of Mental Health concerned with Mental Retardation. They were on notice that the resolution was to be presented ah.. presented. Ah.. Dr. Sloan indicated to me as recent as yesterday that he had no objection to it. Now, the $54,000,000 is declared.. or the projects are declared to be in the public interest and it is an Illinois Building Authority Project. I was the House sponsor of the reappropriation about a little over a year ago and it was not my.. I had no knowledge whatsoever and I'm sure the Senate sponsor did not either of what the facilities were to consist of. My objection is not to the building of facilities of the mentally retarded... as a matter of fact quite the opposite in truth. I object to the concept which is being used incidentally in this state and in this state only. There is no parallel that I have been able to find in talking to experts in any other state in the United States or in any other country in the world. I object to the concept being used. Ah.. I question that it is worthwhile. GENERAL ASSEMBLY. STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 23. I feel that perhaps it is worth experimenting with. And we will have an opportunity to experiment with about 1,200 retardeds at the three centers one of which is constructed, the other two are under construction. So I think we're going to give the concept a pretty good test. But to go any further on that would I think irresponsible on our part ah.. because it is an absolutely untried concept."
"Well, in conclusion, let me say this, Representa- tive Walsh. Ah.. you are familiar and articulate with the concept. I dare say you are the only Member in the House who is. And you say that you've had private conversations with Dr. Sloan relative to this concept. We've had no such conversation. We don't know what you're talking about. I'm simply saying that it seems to me that we should wait until the next session which is only a month from now, reintroduce your resolution, let's look at it, bring Dr. Sloan in and any other person who wants to testify for it and then we can move ahead. I have a feeling that 30 days won't make that much difference. And it seems to me in light of fact that sometime effort and consideration went into drafting the original bill appropriating $54,000,000 and you're going to throw that up to the sky with a resolution which unfortunately the committee didn't have time to consider. It And certainly no one on this floor understands... seems to me we should hold off on this resolution until GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 24. But it then. It might well be we would support it. seems to me this is certainly the kind of resolution which should have a thorough hearing before the Executive Committee."
"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Lechowicz."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have to concur with the views and thoughts of Representative Washington. We take great pride in the Appropriations Committee and the process that has been established in this General Assembly and others as well. And in turn we try to do our utmost to cut the budget in areas that we can actually prove that they can be cut. When the Department of Mental Health Budget appeared before us, we had certain recommendations. But in turn we also took into consideration the testimony before our Committee at that time. And the testimony of that Director. And if my recollection is correct, the testimony did not bear what this resolution is trying.. reporting to do. I would hope that the Members of this General Assembly would not act upon this resolution this evening. But in turn wait until next year when this money will not be used and we can in turn review the departmental request and if they recommend this doctor will come in and testify before the committee stating that they do not need this money at that time, we'll be more than happy to make sure that it is not GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 25. within their departmental budget. But I think it is a mistake to do this at this time in this way. I would hope that the sponsor, in good faith, would withdraw this resolution."
"The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. D. J. O'Brien."
"Would the sponsor yield to a question? Would he yield to a question?"
"He indicates he will."
"Has there been any indication, Representative, as to what the position is of the Illinois Association for the Mentally Retarded?"
"Ah.. yes. I had a phone call and they were wondering about it. They ah.. ah.. there hasn't been any offical indication but they're.."
"From whom was your phone call?"
"Elaine Hoff."
"Ah.. the reduction you imply by this resolution. Would that be in terms of plant facility or staffing?"
"Dan, I imply no reduction. All.. all that this resolution does is re-evaluate a program that the Department of Mental Health, Division of Retardation Services seems to be committed to which in total involves the state in $63,000,000. $27,000,000 of those dollars, it is too late for. The $36,000,000 we're hoping can be looked into a little bit by the department. And I'm not suggesting that construction stop on any kind of facility. I'm suggesting only with this resolution,. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 26. that perhaps they ought to look and see if this type residential family-like atmosphere ought to be continued at the tremendous cost. As I pointed out, $55 a day or over $20,000 per retarded per year is something that we may well have to answer to and ah.. that we ought to look into."
"May I speak to the resolution, Mr. Speaker? I: don't quarrel necessarily for the need of an investigation Representative into the ah.. cost and the possibility of over spending in the area for the mentally retarded. What I do question is giving the sole perogative for this investigation and examination to the Department of Mental Health. It's my understanding that when there is a mentally retarded facility built in Illinois, that there's consultation from people in social services, people in nongovernmental mental health associations, psychiatrists not affiliated with the state department of Mental Health, or necessarily dictated to by appropriations. Ah.. it seems to me that the care of the mentally retarded should involve more of an examination than by those who are in the bureaucracy of the Department of mental health. I don't say that this examination is not needed but I think the proper place for it is not with the department but rather with a committee of this House where we can summon the experts from all sides of the question of mentally retardation. So that we can get a better picture of what is and what is not proper GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 26. care. Also, we don't know whether the reduction. that is implied different with you is implied by the tenor of the resolution. Whether this reduction is the one-on-one staffing which too is valuable or not valuable depending on expertise which we do not have in this body. And but I submit the Mental Health Department does not have a corner on either. I think that expert should be brought in to discuss the type of care for the mentally retarded over and above the Department of Mental Health. I would therefore ask that the resolution do receive a full hearing in the next session."
"Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Gibbs." Gibbs; "Mr. Speaker, will the sponsor yield to a question?"
"Representative Walsh? He indicates he will."
"If this resolution is passed tonight and ah.. the department then goes on and determines that there is a need to continue with the program that was passed in 1965, how do they proceed."
"Well, the resolution isn't explicit on that point. But what they would do, I suppose, is demonstrate to the House of Representatives which is in this case taking an interest that this is the way to approach it and I would think that a resolution countermanding this one would be appropriate or sufficient."
"So we would have to act again, then. Is that right?"
"Well we wouldn't necessarily. This is simply advisory. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 27. But I would think it advisable on the part of the Department of Mental Health to get themselves off the hook. After all, we're the place the buck stops. And ah.. and ah.. I would think they might do that."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. James Y. Carter."
"Mr. Speaker, I'd just like to have a point of parliamentary inquiry. I take it when this money was appropriated that it was passed in the form of a bill and it was approved by whatever committees were involved including appropriations. And that bill would have been acted on by both Houses and passed by both Houses. Now I'm asking you, Mr. Speaker. Can the device of a House Resolution be used in this particular manner when it has been passed by both the House and the Senate. Seems to me it should be a House Joint Resolution. And I think the Governor probably signed it as well."
"I think that's a substantive question. And as I understand the purview of the resolution, ah it would not go to cutting off the money and ah.. ah.. all it asks the department to do is look into the matter. to make a decision as to whether or not they had.. this was the proper direction in which to proceed. I don't think we're conflicting.."
"Assuming then that it's not conflicting, let me ask you this Mr. Speaker and it's only an opinion on my part and I'm asking you what yours might be. Would this not, if this resolution passed and the department GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 28. assumed the responsibility of spending anyhow, would not there be a tax onus to them in some possible future time when they might come on this matter and ask them on what authority, why they went ahead?"
"Well, I think that's the substance of the matter, not one for the Chair to resolve."
"I'll stop being substantive, Mr. Speaker."
"Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich."
"Mr. Chairman, and Members of the House, ah.... I'm on the Executive Committee and although we didn't have a quorum today, we did hear this motion or this Resolution to some extent, and ah.... when we passed the original Bill back in the 75th General Assembly, ah.... there were a couple of reasons for it, and one of them was the ah.... large waiting list that we had in the State of Illinois for Mental Retardation facilities, and ah.... from the ah.... testimony that I heard today in the Committee, we no longer have that waiting list. Ah.... also, ah.... I think we've got to realize that there is a change in philosophy, the treatment of mental retarda- tion and mentally ill, and I don't see where it wouldn't be a good idea that we asa legislature tell the Depart- ment of Public Health that we want to take another look at this, because there are a lot of funds ah.... that ah.... are involved here, ah.... I don't think the State of Illinois ought to be building institutions wherein the cost is more than in any private facility in the whole GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 29. State of Illinois, which.surprised me when I heard this in the Committee, so based on that, I think we ought to say, wait a minute, let's take another look. Now another thing, in my particular district, the City of Waukegan is going to have one of these facilities. Ah.... and it will always bother me the fact that an institution that is going to take care of Mentally Retarded was built under a cloud. That there was a secret land trust and from the allegations made, that somebody benefited from that particular building and this building is going to care for those who are mentally retarded. This will always bother me. In fact, the legislative audit commission said that this matter should be further investigated, so based on all of this, I think it would be a good idea for us in the House to say let's wait, let's take another look be- cause actually we're not hurting anything. If it is found that ah.... even with the high cost of fifty-five dollars a day, that the mentally retarded will benefit all the more from this Public facility, we stop nothing, but I think based on all of the evidence, we ought to take another look at it, and I think everyone here, including Bill Walsh and Bob Juckett, of all people, those two have done more for the interest of the mentally retarded then probably anybody in this legislature. And if they agree on that Resolution, I agree on it too, and I ask for its adoption." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 30.
"The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Meyer."
"Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question."
"All those in favor, say 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The previous question's been moved. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walsh, to close."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I thank Representative Matijevich for his remarks. May I say that any objection to this seems to stem from what the reaction of the Department of Mental Health might be, and I assure you, gentlemen, that I ah.... did everything I could to get them to the meeting. I told them about the Resolution, ah.... they were here and observed what happened here all day yesterday, or should have been, and could have been to the meeting at 10:00 this morning. Now going a. little further than that, the Chairman of the Committee, exercising what in my opinion is more than Chairmanship responsibilities, made an effort to contact these people in the Department of Mental Health to get them over here to the Committee. Ah.... Dr. Sloan, Chief Executive Officer in the Division of Mental Retardation Services, as I repeat again, said that he had no objection to this Resolution. As Mr. Matijevich said, the Resolution is strictly advisory, ah.... it doesn't compel them to do anything. It just requests that they look into this concept and perhaps reconsider it if the value is not worth the cost. And I urge your support for the adoption GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 31. of this Resolution and so move."
"For what purpose does the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Barnes, arise?"
"Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Since the Resolution has been discharged from Committee, ah... what's the vote total needed for passage for this resolu- tion?"
"Simple majority."
"Simple majority?"
"All right, all those in favor of the adoption of the Resolution, say 'aye', opposed 'no'. Are there ah.... five? All right, we'll have a roll call. All those in favor, will vote 'aye', and the opposed 'no'. Mr. Schneider."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just by way of explaining my vote, ah.... for what Bill's indicated in terms of the skeleton description of technique and approach to the problems of the mentally retarded at the two institutions, it suggests to me that it's the kind of program that we ought to consider seriously maintaining. I see rushing to the forefront the concern for cost over buildings and ah.... the high ratio of one person to those who are in the institutions. It seems to me that for a long time that ah.... an area where we've been willing to make cer- tain reductions and cuts - we've come a long way from the snake pit in Illinois, of course. A long way from that concept as civilization, and perhaps we ought to maintain GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AVG 32. that kind of program, and I share the concern of some of my colleagues who have talked to the issue of ah.... exploring further the ideas and the techniques and the responses of appropriately and humanely dealing with the problems of those who are mentally retarded and those who are institutionalized. So I think we ought to leave the ah... Resolution in Committee and in 78th General Assembly return to it again and pursue ah.... pursue the issue at that point. So it just explains my 'no' vote on this Resolution."
"Have all voted who wished? Clerk will take the record. 84 'ayes', 30 'nays' and the Resolution is adopted. All right, with leave of the House, we will ah.... go back to.... there's a message from the Senate here."
"Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. Mr. Speaker I'm directed to inform the House of Repre- sentatives that the Senate has concurred with the House of Representatives in the passage of the Bill with the following title: "House Bill 3906, together with the following Amendment thereto, which Amendments have been printed by the Senate and adoption of which I am in- structed to ask concurrence of the House. Passed the Senate as amended, December 16, 1972. Kenneth Wright, Secretary."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McGah." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 33.
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, ah.... this is the one we've been waiting for, and I think most of you know what's happened over in the Senate, to the Executive Branch and to the Judicial Branch pay raise bill, et cetera. First of all, the Senate took off the emergency clause so the Judicial and Executive pay raises will not be effective until July 1. They took a legislative pay raise out of it altogether and we still receive the same $17,500 a year for the ah... next General Assembly. It does have a $32 per diem ah... expense money in here, but that isn't effective until July 1, the way it is, and ah.... there is an increase in secretarial compensation to $10,000, but that's not effective until July 1. Now my first reaction would be to table this Bill, but ah... I think we should have an opportunity to vote on a motion to nonconcur. I therefore move."
"Any discussion? Question is on the gentleman's motion to nonconcur. All in favor of the gentleman's motion, say 'aye'. Opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, and the gentleman's motion to nonconcur carries and if the Clerk would send that message immediately to the Senate. What purpose does the gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Hanahan, rise?"
"Mr. Speaker, it's the hour of five-thirty tonight and I know we're waiting now for the message to come back from the Senate and I was wondering if we could possibly could have a recess until tomorrow morning and maybe the GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 34. Conference Committee, if there is one going to be appointed, could deliberate tonight, but to continue on through the hours of ah... late tonight seems folly right now when ah... the kind of vote that this Bill received in the Senate seems that we either have to bring some people back from Florida or someplace that they're on vacation and they're not voting on the Bill, because there is a lot of absenteeism, so possibly we should ah... consider recessing until tomorrow. I was hoping we'd get some indication of where we're going tonight, so that, you know, we're not all sitting around trying to wait for a Conference Committee Report that might not materialize until tomorrow anyway."
"Ah.... well, right now, ah... what we plan on doing is going back to ah.... we've got one Resolution left in the General Session. Well, they're still coming. Ah.... then we'll recess the General, go back to the Special, at which time, ah.... we're going to take a run at those tax freezes proposals. Ah.... I suggest we take time to hear these Resolutions right now in the General, and ah.... then see if we have a message back from the Senate that they refuse to recede, at which time we will have a Conference Committee, and my thought is, that perhaps while we're doing the tax freeze business, we could have the Conference Committee meet. O'kay? All right, we'll go to ah.... ah.... further resolutions then." GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 35.
"House Resolution ah.... 893. Rose et al. House Resolution 896. Carroll et al. House Resolution 897.. Carroll et al."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Simmons."
"Ah.... I believe I heard the Clerk say Resolution 893, and we passed that Resolution."
"Mr. Simmons, in the group of Resolutions that we had before, you heard correctly, I did read 893. We num- bered a House Joint Resolution as a House Resolution, so that accounts for the repetition of the number of 893."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 893, Whereas our most illustrious colleague, the Honorable John Henry Kleine, of the 32nd Representative District is concluding his legislative career with this final session of the 77th General Assembly after four distinguished terms; and Whereas he's rendered excellent service to his people of his District during his tenure in the legislature, he's worked faithfully on his legislative assignments and has sponsored many worthy bills. And though he will no longer be present with us, his spirit of his environmental initiatives will linger as a positive force for progress in the areas of environmental reform. Whereas he received a bachelor of arts degree in economics from Lake Forest College and a bachelor of science degree from Northwestern University, and throughout his career he has demonstrated a continuing interest in education matters. He's a GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 36. Member of the Board of Trustees of Shimer College and a past President of the Lake Forest College alumni association; Whereas his interest in deep commitments of the problems of State government is highly commendable, he's was a member of the Commission on Water Resources and Water Pollution, a member of the legislative Commission to visit and examine State institutions and in the House of Representatives, he is shared with great distinction, the Committee on the Environment, he has served on the appropriation committee, conservation and water resources, industry and labor relations committee; and it's with a profound sense of loss that we say farewell to a colleague whose tireless dedication to the work of this Body re- flects such great credit on this House of Representatives. Mr.... State Representative Rose has gone over to the Sangamo Club to read that to Mr. Kleine, I'm told. Ah... I would like to yield on House Resolution 896 to ah... our good colleague, Representative Maragos."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Maragos."
"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is a joint resolution sponsored by Henry Leonard and Harvey Carroll and myself, pertaining to one of our illustrous members of this House who is now retiring. Whereas the Honorable Frank J. Smith, will retire following the adjournment of the 77th General Assembly; and Whereas he has been a life long resident of the District he repre- sents, has raised seven fine children, has served the STATE OF ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 37. District with honor and distinction; and whereas through enthusiastic participation and social civic and political affairs, throughout his adult life, he has been a credit to this community. And whereas during his ten terms in the House, he has shown a complete and detailed grasp of the affairs of the committees on Credit Regulation, Financial Institutions, Personnel and Veteran Affairs, and Registration Regulation; Therefore be if resolved by the House of Representatives of the 77th General Assembly of the State of Illinois that we express our deep respect for the noted accomplishments and outstanding service of Frank J. Smith, during his long service in this Body, that we express the appreciation to the People of Illinois for his distinguished service, that we congratulate him on his retirement and wish him well in his future en- deavors and be it further resolved that a suitable copy of this Resolution be presented to him. Ladies and Gentleman, the Honorable Frank J. Smith."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Fary."
"In as much ah... Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Speaker, Frank Smith has been my running mate in the same District for nine terms, I'm going to ask that my name be added to that Resolution and also any and all members on the Democratic side, because the Good Lord, every now and then, bestows a kind of miricle upon this House, a very pleasantly one, and that is that a man that is the age of 88 years is serving in this House as an elected public GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 38. official. Frank is 88 years old, and even though he has been quiet as a mouse there, he always did the right thing, never aggravated anybody and voted the right way. Frank, God love you and keep you a long time."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Granata."
"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I've known Frank Smith from the first day he came down here. When the late Judge McDemit brought him down here and said here's a regular guy, and I'll say in all sincerety, Frank Smith has been more than a regular guy. If it were possi- ble for one man to love another, I would say that every member on this floor would love Frank J. Smith, and ask Mr. Speaker, that all members on the Republican side add their name to this Résolution for the most respected, the most lovable, the most competent fellow that ever hit the legislature."
"Thank you, very much. God Bless you all."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Douglas."
"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, In moving to suspend the appropriate rules, so that House Resolution 887 can be brought before this House for immediate con- sideration, I would like to explain that we are confronted with the problem of an enormous deficit with the Chicago Transit Authority. This problem is an urgent proportion at this moment. Mr. Speaker, the problem is so serious that during the last few days, citizen groups around the entire Metropolitan area have been viewing with alarm GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 39. the anticipated problem of not only a proposed 15 cent fare increase, but also at a time when the Chicago Transit Authority's services are being viewed with great concern during the present cold spell with a cutback in services as well. The Chicago Transit Authority, in the words of the President Pro Tempore of the Chicago City County, Alderman Claude W. B. Holdman, is a product of this legislature. To quote Alderman Holdman 'the State has the responsibility to help the CTA because the CTA was created by the State. Alderman Holdman also said, and I might mention to those who may wonder why this resolution is being brought up at this moment, that when we return in the spring, when we return, we are as sure as I am standing here, going to be confronted with a request from the Chicago Transit Authority for a 20 plus million dollar request for operating funds, and when Alderman Holdman states and I quote it is opportune that the State legislature is in session so that this emergency matter can be dealt with promptly, I cannot sit back idly and lose what has come to me as a request from the Presi- dent Pro Tempore of the Chicago City Council for action by this legislature. The action I am proposing is that the Illinois Legislative Investigating Commission under- take the required information about the business practices of the CTA so that when the enevitable occurs in the spring from the CTA for operating funds, that we will have objective data available to us in order to evaluate this GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 40. request. In my deep experience in this legislature, I have learned that it is a problem that we always have to wheel and deal in some way to get the money for the CTA. Alderman Thomas Ski, the Finance Committee Chairman, of the Chicago City Council, yesterday accused the CTA of playing crisis politics in a manner similar to God of the Chicago Board of Education, and I might remind those of us from Chicago that we inevitably are burdened with this problem every year where the CTA and Board of Education end up causing us immense problems where we have to beg our legislators from downstate to help this legislature help us. I think that's bad, I think that it's wrong. I think that this problem with the CTA should be investigated and now, investigated so that by April, we will have a report from the investigating commission about the practices of the CTA. I would remind this body that the State last year contributed 19 million dollars for bus service on the CTA's outstanding Revenue bonds. At this moment, the 1973 budget of the CTA is 42 million dollars in the red, 33 million, six hundred, sixty-seven thousand dollars of which is in the operating fund and the remainder in bond payments. Mr. Speaker, and Members of the House, I would ask or I would move that the appropriate be instituted and that this matter be brought before this House for immediate consideration and I think it is obvious to all of us, that this is a matter which cannot at this moment be sent to Committee, GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 41. and even if it were, Mr. Speaker, I submit to the Members of this House that we would only have the same kind of discussion we might have here on the floor, and I would urge that each of you in our bi-partisan matter respect the fact that this legislature has a commitment to a quasi public body called the Chicago Transit Authority and that we at this moment institute the investigation that we will need to come up with the appropriate data for action in the next session."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Garmisa."
"Well, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. These eleven hour resolutions that keep popping up in this General Assembly, when we're down here for a Special Session, for Regular Session, and when we get so far afield that we have to start investigating every quasi public body in this State, well then, Ladies and Gentlemen, I want to say that we're not here doing the job we're sent down here to do. And I want to remind the Representative that is introducing this Resolution that all of the records of the Chicago Transit Authority have always been public record, they have always been open to anybody in this Body. We, in the General Assembly, have checked out the Chicago Transit Authority in every which way. They've come down here and they've ask for their subsidies. They're going to come down here again. They will certainly ask for some, because they're sorely in need of this money, and we in the General Assembly GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 42. are going to be putting in our twelve hours down here, going into this type of resolution and overloading the Committee on crime investigation with this type of thing, we're doing the wrong thing. And Ladies and Gentlemen of this House, I would ask for a definite opposition of every member of the House to this Resolution."
"Is there further discussion? Does the Gentleman from Cook Mr. Douglas, care to close? Wait just a moment. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz, has a word."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I have to concur with exactly with what Representative Garmisa said, and in turn, I would like to point out to the Representative who is probably in good faith is introducing this Resolution, and in my opinion, the Illinois Investigating Commission that we have em- powered with such powers does not have the expert fiscal expertise which is possibly necessary for this type of investigation. I think we're all concerned with cost in government, but I think this is the wrong time and possi- bly the wrong agency for this request."
"Further discussion? Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Juckett."
"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I noted that from the Resolution, it indicates that the reporting date shall be in April of 1973. As a result of action yesterday of this House, we did ask and require F THE STATE OF ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 175 43. the Illinois Legislative Investigating Commission to report on the Race Track problems and I understand that they are going to have a preliminary report sometime in the first or middle part of January, so it's my under- standing that there will be considerable work done by that Commission on the Race Track problems. And I also indicate that the Executive Committee would stand ready, willing and able to discuss this matter at a special meeting if this Motion does not pass."
"Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Douglas, to close."
"A brief response, Mr. Speaker and Members of this House to the comments made by my colleagues on this side of the aisle. I would submit that the statutory responsi- bility of the Legislative Investigating Commission is to respond to any and all investigative needs that this General Assembly asks of it. I would submit that the practices of the CTA are open to question, the frequency of the promises that we receive from them that things will be fine after the next subsidy from the General Assembly clearly indicates that Representative Garmisa statement just isn't true. This is not an eleventh hour request. This urgent development took place in the last twenty four to forty eight hours. I would say that that is a parlay to push it out of the way, so that the CTA could continue to operate in the inadequate, unbusiness- like way that it has become customary to do. And I would GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 44. urge the members of this House and I would observe that it won't be easy to get 89 votes with as many people off the floor as we have and I would hope that you would recognize that it would be value in having this matter referred to the legislative investigating commission and I urge you to help bring this matter before us for immedi- ate considerate."
"Gentleman has moved that Rule 53A be suspended so that House Resolution 887 could be considered immediately. All those in favor of suspension, signify by voting 'aye', the opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wished? Take the record. On this question, there are 19 'ayes', 48 'no's' and the gentleman's motion to suspend Rule 53A fails. Further Resolutions?"
"House Resolution 898. Welsh et al. House Resolution 899. Hyde."
"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Hyde."
"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 897. The Honorable Daniel J. O'Brien, our aggressive colleague from the 10th District, has demostrated enthusiastic and selfless service to the People of the State of Illinois and Representative O'Brien has been active in many civic, and community organizations; among them the Rogers Park Community Council, the Loyola Community Council and the Edgewater Community Council; and whereas he's exhibited distinguished leadership abilities as former President GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 45. of 49th Ward Regular Organization in Chicago; and whereas Dan O'Brien is worthy of recognition by his colleagues for his integrity, ability and tireless devotion to duty, he will no doubt continue to be accorded well-merited recognition in his future endeavors; therefore, be it resolved that we commend and congratulate our distinguished colleague, the Honorable Daniel J. O'Brien for whom we have the highest praise for his outstanding contributions to society and civic life and give to him our best wishes for all his future endeavors."
"Thank you very much, to say the very least. This was the most incredible experience I've ever had in my life, I think. I'm not leaving it to your own interpre- tation of what incredible means. It was fantastic.oppor- tunity. I met some wonderful people, present company. not excluded. Ah.... I really enjoyed it, I learned an awful lot about government, about myself. I learned an awful lot about people. And it's something I walk away with that can never be taken away from me. Thank you very much."
"Representative Barnes, for what pur- pose do you rise, Sir?"
"Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. One of the really beautiful things that have happened to me in my first term in the legislature is to meet a bunch of real standup and wonderful guys that I worked with. I had the opportunity of coming in with Danny in 1970 and I've GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 46. grown to now him. He's a seatmate of mine. I've had the occasion to be with him on different occasions other than here in the General Assembly. Danny, I'm sure you're going to be back and it's just really a good pleasure and an honor to have had him as a seatmate these two years. I'm looking forward to seeing you again, shortly."
"Ah.. House Resolution 898 is an omnibus resolution ah.. put in through the thoughtfulness of Representative Ray Walsh and it honors Pete Miller, Bernie McDevitt, Matt Ropa, Jimmy Carter, C. R. Hamilton, W. J. Cunningham, Otis Collins, Don Henss, Ed Lehman, Henry Lenard, Jimmy Carrigan, J. W. Thompson and Louie Janczak and Ed Madigan. Ah.. House Resolution 899. The Honorable Elwood Graham was born in born in Chicago, has lived there all his life and has represented his district with the dedication and knowledge of one who loves and represents his home. And whereas he's represented his district with honor, distinction, and consummate ability for 30 achievement-filled years. And whereas this very accomplished and able colleague will retire from this house an active public life following the adjournment of this 77th General Assembly. Whereas his broad and deep knowledge of the affairs of the Committees on Banks and Savings and Loans, financial institutions, municipal corporations, public welfare and Registration and Education will be sorrily missed. Therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives that we commend Elwood Grahm for GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 47. his selfless dedication to the people of this state during his tenure.here. That we will sorrily miss his wise counsel. That we congratulate him on his retirement and wish him well in the future."
"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Hyde."
"Ah.. Mr. Speaker. Some of these resolutions are. being handed in without adequate sponsorship and I would ask every member of the House that wishes to get on these resolutions as co-sponsors to inform the Clerk. Ah.. I now move, Mr. Speaker, that all of the agreed resolutions be adopted."
"Representative Campbell, do you seek recognition, Sir? The Gentleman has offered to move the adoption of agreed resolutions. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye'."
"Aye."
"Opposed, no. The resolutions are adopted. As soon as Representatives Choate and Blair come out we can see what direction we're going in. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."
"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I now move that the General Session of this General Assembly, please keep quiet, recess for a period of thirty minutes."
"All right. All those in favor of the Gentleman's motion say 'aye'. Opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it and ah.. we're now in Special Session and the chair.. OF TESTATE OF ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 48.
"Now, we're back in Regular Session. Gentle..... Yeow, we'll hold the Resolutions until tomorrow, I think. There's one announcement. The gentleman from Cook, Representative Juckett, on...." Juckett; "Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. With leave of the House, I would like to ah.... make the announcement that the Executive Committee will meet at 10:30 tomorrow morning to ah... consider the Resolution by Representative Douglas. It will be in Room M-5 at 10:30."
"All right, with no objection, then that matter may be heard. We will waive the rule and post that for hearing tomorrow. All right, the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde."
"Mr. Speaker, I now move that the Regular Session be adjourned until the hour of 11:00 AM tomorrow morning."
"All right, all those in favor of the motion, say 'aye'. The opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. We'll stand adjourned until 11:00 tomorrow. GENERAL ASSEMBLY STATE OF ILLINOIS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES