Illinois House Floor Debate — May 3, 1984

"The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. We shall be led in prayer today by the Reverend James Wismer, Pastcr of the Berlin Christian Church in New Berlin, Illinois. Reverend Wismer is the guest of Representative Josephine Oblinger. Would the guests in the gallery please rise to join us in the invocation? And would the Members please give their attention to Reverend Wismer?"

"Let us pray. Almighty, eternal God, we thank You for the day that's set before us. And, Father, I pray that an... spirit might prevail here today among these men and women as they set forth before the task that is here. And, Father, I pray that each one of them might act in wisdom and that they might take to heart the great task that's been given to them by the people of this great state. And Father, may they take to heart the interest of all of the people groups of this state. Father, bless them in this day. In Christ's name, we pray. Amen."

"We shall te led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Greiman, are there any excused absences?"

"Mr. Christensen is excused today, Mr. Speaker."

"Let the record reflect that excused absence. Mr. Vinson, are there any ny excused absences?"

"Yes, Sir. Representative Zwick and Representative Woodyard should be excused."

"Let the record reflect those excused absences. 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day Mr. Clerk, take the record. responding present.

May 3, 1984 There being 113 Members to the Attendance Roll Call, there is a guorum Committee Reports." "Representative Flinn, Chairman of the Committee on Financial Institutions, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 1, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Do pass House Bills 1063, 2780, 3156, 3050 and 3070; 'do pass as amended' House Bill 3055; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 3150; 'be adopted' House Joint Resolution 124. Representative Kulas and Domico, Chairmen from the Committee on Registration and Regulation, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1983 (sic 1984), reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Do pass' House Bills 2473, 2859, 2818 and 2386; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 3100, 3101 and 2479; 'do pass as amended' Short Debate' House Bill 968; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 508. Representative Farley, Chairman of the Committee on Labor and Commerce, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1983... '84, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Do pass' House Bills 3046, 30... 2341, 2342, 2401, 3221, 3099, 2373, 1302, 2960, 3031, 3240; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 2950, 2307, 3057, 2836 and 2762; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bill 2924; 'do pass...'"

"Mr. Clerk. Mr. Clerk, let me interupt you. Ladies and Gentlemen, if we could have your attention to the podium for a special announcement and a special presentation. And the Chair recognizes Mr. Daniels."

"Mr. Clerk, could you call House Resolution 872?"

"House Resolution 872. Whereas, the athletic achievements of the York Community High School girls' basketballl team merit special recognition; and whereas, 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 the York Dukes won an outstanding 55 to 46 victory in the 1984 Class AA Girls' Basketball Championship, ending a glorious 32 to 1 season that was the envy of every athletic team in Illinois; and whereas, the York Dukes are living proof that with dedication, effort and fair play, Coach Val Cothern's belief 'Dreams Can Come True', is a reality; and whereas, the York Dukes' stunning victory is evidence of what we all can attain if we achieve the level of dedication they carry with them throughout their championship season. Therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, that we do hereby congratulate and honor the York Community High School Girls Basketball team for the commitment to athletic and scholastic excellence that won for it not only the 1984 State Championship, but also the pride of their community. And be it further resolved that suitable copies of this Resolution and Preamble be presented to those who made this achievement possible. Adopted by the House of Representatives on May 1st, 1984."

"Representative Vinson moves that we suspend the appropriate rules for the hearing of the Resolution immediately. Any objections? Hearing no objections, the appropriate rules are suspended, and Representative Vinson moves for the adoption of the Resolution. All those in favor signify by saying 'aye', opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. Resolution 872 is hereby adopted. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I have the distinct pleasure of having the towering giants of York Community High School in attendance today in response to the House Resolution that you so kindly just adopted. This team represents the pride of Elmhurst in the Class AA women's basketball championship. And as you all know and Fred Tuerk is there. 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 Eat your heart out, Fred. We beat the team from Feoria that Fred tried to get in and bring in as wringers. You could see why this team is SO outstanding, if you look around them. Not only are they attractive and academic excellence, in the pursuit of excellence from one of the top high schools in the county, but also, they are people that are good citizens and good community leaders. Four of the people are seniors in the organization, and I want to Laura point them out, since the y are senior members. Hudgens. Would you just kind of raise your hand when I call your name? Laura's on my right. Pam Fiene. Pam Fiene's on my right. Kathleen Flanagan, and her teammate, Kandy Nied. Now Kathleen Flanagan is also an All-state team player. Is that right, Kathleen? All-state, Kathleen. To... To show to you that we have influence and power in Elmhurst, I just want to make sure that you all know that I am not standing on my knees. I au standing as tall as I can, and what can I say other than the fact that we're extremely proud of this team. Join me in congratulating them on their achievement. May I introduce to you the Coach of the team? Would you just say a few words to the General Assembly?"

"Hi, from all of us, and thank you so very much for honoring us this day. We've had... We've had many thrills throughout the season, but this ranks among the highest. Thank you very much."

"As... As anybody knows on... on the Republican side of the aisle, we always try to be fair so that Hr. Madigan, with your permission, I'd like to call for sour grapes, Representative Fred Tuerk. Bepresentative Tuerk."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I want to add my congratulations to this fine group of young ladies. They truly outplayed our Richwoods team in the finals. It was 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 evident of that. Naturally, I was pulling for Richwoods. Richwoods was ranked number one in the state, number one in the nation all year, and I think you ladies are to be commended for the type of game you played and defeated them for the championship. And I just want to add my congratulations to that."

"Thank you, Representative Tuerk. Thank you all very much."

"Continuing with Committee Reports. Representative Bruce Farley, Chairman from the Committee on Labor and Commerce, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Interim Study Calendar House Bills 2897, 2838, 2414, 3207, 3104, 3261, 2922 and 3118. Representative Satterthwaite, Chairman from the Committee on Higher Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Interim Study Calendar House Bill 2949. Representative Mulcahey, Chairman from the Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'Do pass House Bills 3052 and 3246; 'do pass as amended House Bills 3218, 1742 and 1556; 'do pass Short Debate House Bill 3219, 3213, 3136 and 2731; 'do pass as amended Short Debate Calendar House Bill 3110 and 2830; 'do pass Consent Calendar House Bill 3212; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar House Bill 877 and 3090; 'Interim Study Calendar House Bill 2777, 3028. Representative Steczo, Chairman from the Committee on Counties and Townships, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass House Bills 5  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 2296, 2857, 3034, 3035 and 3130; 'do pass as amended House Bills 2417, 2629, 2939, and 2951 and also 2141; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Fill 2810, 2905, 3127; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Fill 2917 and 3263; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 3215. Representative Christensen, Chairman from the Committee on Aging, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 2419, 2425 and 2426; 'do pass as amended' House Eill 2339."

"On page three of the Calendar, on the Order of House Bills Second Beading, Short Debate Calendar there appears House Bill 2567, Representative Younge. Representative Younge, do you wish to call your Bill? It's on the Order of Second Reading Short Debate Calendar. It deals with the fire protection districts. Would you like to call that today? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2567, a Fill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act in relation to fire protection districts. Second Beading of the Fill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Younge, amends House Bill..."

"Eepresentative Ycunge."

"The effect of the Amendment, Mr. Chairman (sic Mr. Speaker), is to make the Bill apply only to the Belleville situation. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Lady MOVES for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Is there leave for this Bill to 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day remain on the Short Debate Calendar? House Bill 2668, Representative John Cunn. the Bill." May 3, 1984 Leave is granted. Mr. Clerk, read

"House Bill 2668, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Highway Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, John Cunn."

"Mr. Dunn." Dunn, J.: "This is a technical Amendment, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, which indicates that, should this Bill become law, it shall take effect immediately upon becoming law. I urge its adoption."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Is there leave for this Bill to remain on the Order of the Short Debate Calendar? Leave is granted. House Bill 2761, Mr. Ewing. Do you wish to call your Bill? Okay, the Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2807, Mr. Homer. Do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2807, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

"No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Homer, amends House Bill 2807 on page..."

"Mr. Homer." 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Bill itself addresses an issue with regard to the appcrtionrent of interstate trucking license fees. The Amendment #1 simply is a technical cleanup and also provides an additional period of time for the Secretary of State tc make refunds in appropriate cases. I would ask for its favorable consideration."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. The Chair recognizes Mr. Fiel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Gentleman yield to a question?"

"The Sponsor indicates he will yield."

"Representative Homer, I notice... just for clarity sake, would you explain to us... I notice you're changing numbers here. Could you explain what the change in the numbers is for the Members of the Body, please?"

"Alright. The number that's being changed, Representative Piel, is from three months to six months. It would the double time within which the Secretary of State has to make a refund following audit results which would... which have determined that a refund is due a... as a result of an overcharge to a trucking firm. And this... this Amendment has been proposed through a Resolution and compromise between the Secretary of State's Office and the Attorney General's Office. And it is agreed to by all parties."

"Fine. Thank you very much."

"The question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. Is there leave that this Bill shall remain on the Order of the Short Debate Calendar?" 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 Leave is granted. On the Order of House Bills Second Reading there appears House Bill 328, Mr. Hallock. Mr. Clerk, read the... The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 713, Mr. Fierce. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2213, Representative Alexander. Is Representative Alexander in the chamber? House Bill 2278, Mr. Huff. Is Mr. Huff in the chamber? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2350, Representative Currie. Do you wish to call your Bill, 2350? The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 2369, Mr. Brookins. Do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 236..."

"For what purpose does Mr. Vinson seek recognition?"

"I think you missed 2366, Mr. Panayotovich's Bill."

"Because the Sponsor had indicated that he didn't want to call the Bill. Thank you. Mr. Brookins."

"House Bill 2369, a Bill for an Act to create the Probation Challenge Program. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Motions?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Has the corrected fiscal note been filed?"

"A corrected fiscal note is filed."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2400, Mr. Bowman. Do you wish to call your Bill? The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2434, Mr. McPike. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2441, Mr. Mulcahey. Is Mr. Mulcahey 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 in the chamber? The Chair would like to recognize a group of students from the Spaulding Academy High School in Peoria. They're seated in the Speaker's Gallery, and they are residents of the district represented by Representative Tuerk. So, if we could acknowledge the presence of the students. House Bill 2451, Mr. Friedrich. Br. Friedrich."

"Mr. Speaker, I just now presented an Amendment. It has not been printed. If it... that would be restricted, I would have to hold it up until they're printed, but I can explain the Amendment if..."

"The Bill shall remain on the Order of Second Reading. Bouse Bill 2511, Mr. Harris. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2565, Representative Wojcik. Is Representative Wojcik in the chamber? Do you wish to call your Fill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2565, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Plumbing License Law. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted."

"Is there a Motion?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Amendment #2, Slape, amends House Bill 2565 as amended in Section 3 in the underscore..."

"Mr. Slape."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. Amendment #232 to House Bill 2565 widens the scope of the legislation SO now it will apply to municipal-owned water companies and also to privately-owned water companies. I'd ask for the Amendment to be adopted."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption cf 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 113th Legislative Day Amendment #2. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall the Amendment be adopted?' Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2592, Mr. Matijevich. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2615, Mr. Brummer. Mr. Brummer. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2615, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of an Act concerning public utilities. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Are there any Committee Amendments?"

"Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Is there a Motion?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #2, Brummer."

"Mr. Brummer."

"Yes, this Bill provides for a construction cost audit of new electric... or generating plants. The Amendment is really clarifying. It does two things. It clarifies that this audit is with regard to electric generating plants. The Bill currently says generating plants. And secondly, with regard to the reimbursement of that cost in rate base. Instead of the current language which says the ICC may include it in rate base, the new language in the Amendment says it shall be included in rate base. I move for the adoption of the Amendment."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of the Amendment. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 'no'. The 'ayes have it. The Amendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments?"

"No further Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2670, Representative Currie. It amends the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act. The Lady indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 2707, Mr. Bowman. Mr. Bowman. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2707, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Public Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"None."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2719, Mr. Pangle. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2732, Mr. Greiman. Is Mr. Greiman in the chamber? Mr. Greiman, House Bill 2732. Do you wish to call your Bill. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2740, Mr. Giorgi. Is Mr. Giorgi in the chamber? Mr. Giorgi. House Bill 2787, Mr. McPike. Do you wish to call your Bill? Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2787, a Bill for an Act to create the State Migratory Waterfowl Stamp Fund in the state... in the State Treasury and to create the State Duck Stamp Committee. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment #1 was adopted in Committee."

"Is there a Motion?"

"No Motions filed."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"No Floor Amendments."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2812, Mr. Hoffman. Is Mr. Hoffman in the chamber? House Bill 3033, Mr. 12  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 Yourell. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 3033, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Election Code. Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee Amendments."

"Are there any Floor Amendments?"

"Floor Amendment #1, Yourell."

"Mr. Yourell. Mr. Yourell."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I was just informed that Amendment #2, Floor Amendment #2, had been filed on this Bill, and I don't know whether it's printed or not."

"It has not yet been printed; therefore, the Bill shall be taken out of the record and left on the Order of Second Reading. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, Short Debate Calendar there appears House Bill 551, Mr. Yourell. Mr. Yourell. Ladies and Gentleman, we are now on the Order of Third Reading, final passage."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Bill 551 is a Bill that's designed to provide for the disposal of, apparently, abandoned boats. This has caused a significant problem in the marinas throughout the State of Illinois and on private property and lands abutting streams and waterways. Appearing in Committee to testify for this legislation were a number of marina operators who have been faced with a great deal of difficulty in making a determination of how many abandoned boats that they have to deal with each year. One marina operator from the Chain O Lakes indicated to me that he had 12 boats in the slips that he couldn't do anything about that had been put there and, because of their conditions, had been abandoned, and there's no way under the law that these boats can be taken care of. This legislation is not much different... different than legislation we presented some years ago that dealt with abandoned automobiles on our 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 streets and highways of the State of Illinois. Be happy to answer any questions. It's a very severe problem, cne that has to be taken care of so that WE can get rid of these abandoned boats."

"The Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 551. On that question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Vinson."

"Will the Gentleman yield, please?"

"Yes, but before the Gentleman yields, the Clerk will read the Fill."

"House Bill 551, a Pill for an Act to add Sections to the Boat Registration and Safety Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Yourell."

"Representative, in... after this Amendment's adopted, and we have a... an apparently abandoned boat, what happens to that apparently abandoned boat that the marina operator..."

"An Amendment was offered to the Bill that defined more specifically abandoned boat, and ve added the words, 'apparently abandoned for six consecutive months'. After that time, the individual that wishes to acquire the abandoned boat has to contact the Department of Conservation relative to the registration number of the boat and when it was last registered, and then he can take possession of the boat."

"What does the marina operator do with the abandoned boat? Does he turn it over to Conservation?"

"No, he can do whatever he wants with it. For the most part, they burn them."

"But they can't do that until after six months."

"Six consecutive months. Yes."

"Okay. No... No questions, further questions." 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day

"Mr. Davis." May 3, 1984

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have a question for Representative Yourell."

"The Sponsor indicates he will yield."

"Representative Yourell, in the definition of a Section of the Bill, are you defining vessel to mean anything in its usual sense, or does it have to be motorized? For instance, I'm interested in barges. Are abandoned barges along the riverways in the same category as boats or as vessel under your Bill?"

"I would assume so, if those vessels are registered with the Department of Conservation. That question did not come up relative to this legislation, but I can easily... imagine that that could be a part of this Bill."

"Well, they probably won't be with the Department of Conservation, but they usually are with the Coast Guard and/or the Army Corps of Engineers. I was just curious. It's a serious problem up and down the Illinois waterways on abandoned barges in the Mississippi waterway. And I was in that business once, and I was just curious if you addressed that in the Bill."

"Yeah, I think... I think they could be included in that."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 106 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1594, Mr. Leverenz. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1594, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Revenue Act. Third Reading of the Bill." 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day

"Mr. Leverenz." May 3, 1984

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1594, and the Amendment is the Bill, would provide an extension of the tax exempt status to specifically the Illinois Prairie Path Corporation. We purchased, a couple of years ago, a strip of property, an abandoned railroad right-of-way, and it is now owned by the state. And the Department of Conservation intends to sign a lease with the Illinois Prairie Path to maintain the property - I imagine for a dollar a year. This Bill, as amended, would allow the state's tax exempt status to go to the Illinois Prairie Path Corporation. It passed out of Committee 13 to 0. I'd appreciate your affirmative vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass? All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 107 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1734, Mr. Fierce. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 1734, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Fierce."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Committee Amendment is the Bill. The original Bill is no longer in 1734. What the Bill now does is cures and anomaly in the Illinois Income Tax Act in that we exempt HB 10 self-employed retirement plans and Keough plans from income tax, but those partners who establish their plans prior to the advent of HB 10 and Keough plans are fully taxed on their retirement income. Their employees aren't, 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 but the partners are. This was pointed out to me by a retired partner of a CFA firm who resides in our area. The Department of Revenue had no objection to the Bill because it affects a very few people who... partners who are retired prior to the Keough and HE 10 plans. If they'd retired when those plans had been established, their... their retirement income would not be subject to Illinois income tax. And this puts them on the same parity and; therefore, the Bill passed Committee unanimously. And I ask for passage of House Eill 1734 as amended."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 107 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. For what purpose does Mr. Feterson seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, could you tell me why HJRCA 22 has not been referred to Committee?"

"I believe that Mr. Yourell is the Sponsor of the Resolution. He might be prepared to answer your question. Mr. Yourell."

"Yes, that Bill (sic Resclution) was assigned to Executive Committee. It was heard, I think, Tuesday in Executive Committee."

"House Bill 1818, Mr. Flinn. Mr. Clerk, read the Pill."

"House Bill 1818, a Eill for an Act in relation to the rate of interest. Third Beading of the Bill."

"Mr. Flinn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House Eill 1818 was... came up last 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 year and was voted out of the Financial Institutions Committee unanimously but got caught in the crunch of the adjournment. Basically what it does, it... First rather, under the revolving credit arrangement, House Bill 1818 allows a lender to charge a fee of not more than 10 dollars to the debtor's account each time the debtor is delinquent by 60 days or more. In other words, if a debtor is delinquent and makes an agreement to pay... catch up, and he winds up being 60 days late, he is allowed to be charged 10 dollars. It's sort of like a check that bounces on you. It's the same thing, except this is a loan payment. The... The thing that it solves is that it makes those people who are creating more expense on his account that he pay the expense rather than all of those who borrow from these institutions pay for that. In other words, it causes those who caused the cost to have to pay. I would ask for a favorable vote."

"Mr. Jaffe."

"First, I'd like to ask the question, if I could. Representative Flinn, what is left in this Bill now? Does it have House Amendment #1 on it?"

"I can't hear the question."

"What's left in the Bill? I mean, how many Amendments do we have on this Bill?"

"Well, just one Amendment."

"Okay, so that Amendment restores the amount of the annual revolving credit fee to 20 dollars."

"Right."

"Okay, in addition, thereto, it allows the lender to charge a fee of... not to exceed 10 dollars where the debtor is 60 days delinquent. Is that correct?"

"That's right."

"Okay. And in addition to that, the lender may charge the 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 debtor for any check or draft issued by the debtor which is not honored. Is that correct?"

"That's right."

"And how much may they... how much may they charge the debtor?"

"Well, with the Amendment... Charge the debtor for what?"

"For... For a dishonored check?"

"Oh, a dishonored check. Ten dollars."

"Well, but that... is that specified in the Bill, or can it be any amount that they wish?"

"No, it's not any amount they wish. It's specified."

"It is specified. Well, I just would like το rise in opposition to this Bill. It did not pass out of Judiciary unanimously last year. It did have some dissenting votes, in addition to which, I believe, the credit card people do not lose a great of money on their credit cards, and this allows them to go to the lender and charge additional fees. It says to them that they can charge an additional 10 dollars each time that the individual is 10 days delinquent in addition to which they can now charge them for drafts which are dishonored at the time of presentment. I think that the credit card companies are way ahead as it... as it is. I think this is anti-consumeriso, and I would urge a 'no' vote on this Bill."

"Mr. John Dunn."

"Mr. Speaker, I think we're on Short Debate."

"Your point is well taken, Mr. Flinn. We are on the Order of the Short Debate Calendar. We have had one proponent, one opponent. We'll recognize Mr. Flinn, to close."

"Well, MI. Speaker, I stand corrected if I implied that the Judiciary Committee passed this out unanimously. I should have said that the Financial Institutions passed it 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 out unanimously. I did not mean to mislead the Body at all. I think it's something that we need to dc. It should be passed, and I ask for your favorable vote."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor shall vote 'aye', those opposed shall vote 'no'. Mr. Dunn, to explain his vote." Dunn, J.: "Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, just to indicate that I don't think we need this Bill. Those of you who have credit cards with major cil companies should look at your statements. I have, I think, three credit cards of major oil companies, and this spring two of them enclosed statements about the interest rate charge in the credit cards. And the State of Illincis rates are the highest in the nation. If they're getting the highest interest rates in the nation, I don't think they need help with another 10 dollars from... from an occasional customer. So I think this is a bad Bill, anti-consumerism, and it should be defeated. Good Sponsor, however."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 77 'ayes', 11 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair would like to announce the presence of a special guest on the House floor. Standing next to Representative Pierce's chair, fcrmer Representative John Beatty and now a Judge in the Circuit Court of Cook County. For those of you who don't know, you can ask John, and he'll explain to you how he was responsible for getting me elected to the House of Representatives on several occasions. House Bill 2166, Mr. Hicks. Mr. Hicks. Is Mr. Hicks in the chamber? House Bill 2291, Mr. John Dunn. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2291, a Pill for an Act to add 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 Sections to the Sanitary District Act of 1917. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Dunn." Dunn, J.: "Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this legislation is intended to correct a problem which a sanitary district in my area, and I think perhaps in other areas of the state, have encountered. That occurs when they wish to annex across railroad right-of-way, but the railroad does not wish to participate in the annexation. This Bill would allow them in... in essence to leapfrog the railroad right-of-way and would not obligate the railroad to become part of the sanitary district. The Bill passed, if I recall correctly, unanimously out of Committee. I know of no opposition, and I would ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"Mr. Hawkinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor indicates he will yield."

"Representative, just for legislative history purposes, I assume this does not permit a sanitary district to go down a railroad to pick up another piece but simply allows them to go across. Is that correct?"

"Mr. Dunn." Dunn, J.: "I'm... I'm reading the Bill. The Bill says that where the territory to be so organized is divided... the territory to be organized is divided by one or more railroad rights-of-way or the territory to be so annexed is separated from the sanitary district by one or more railroad rights-of-ways, the area included with the right-of-way should not be considered a part of or an annex to the sanitary district. So, I know, for the purposes of legislative intent, the purpose of this legislation is to allow a district to cross a railroad track, not to go down 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 along the railroad track, and I am sure that's the intent."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Ropp. Mr. Ropp."

"Oh, that's for next... I'm sorry."

"Okay. Fine. Is there any further discussion? The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass? All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Eave all vated who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 108 'ayes, 1 person erson voting "no". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. For what purpose does Mr. Feterson seek recognition?"

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, that HJRCA number was 26. So, would you... would you tell me why..."

"Could you tell me who's the Sponsor of that?"

"...why... why it has not been referred to Committee? I'm the Sponsor."

"Ch, you're the Sponsor of the Resolution?"

"Yes."

"And is the matter assigned to the Committee on Assignment?"

"I don't believe it is. I don't think it goes before... Yeah, it goes to the... It doesn't go to the Rules Committee... Committee on Assignment."

"Mr. Vinson."

"Yes, I... I think the question is why the Committee cn Assignments has not referred it to a substantive Committee so that he could have a hearing on it."

"Mr. Greiman. Mr. Greiman."

"Yes. Thank you. What's the subject matter of it? I... I... We get a printout every day; and, as far as I know, all the matters in the Committee have been assigned. 22  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 If... If they have not been, we'll assign it by the... before this day is out, Sir."

"I filed it last Friday."

"Well, then we will certainly... We have three days to do it. If you filed it last Friday, we have Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. It will be... today. We are within the rules then."

"Okay."

"Fetter answer is that he'll look into the question immediately and, in all prokatility, assign the Resolution within the hour. Correct, Mr. Greiman? House Bill 2328, Mr. Bopp. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2328, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Psychologist Registration Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Мг. Борр."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 2328 amends the Psychologist Act and causes a change in the Department of Registration and Education criteria for granting a license from a school approval to a program approval. The reason for this is, in my particular district I have a man who had graduated from an approved college; did not choose to go into the field of psychology. Later on he did choose to do so. At that time though, the State Registration Department did not approve that particular school from which be had graduated. There is an Amendment. The Amendment provides that the Department of Registration and Education shall define by rule what constitutes an approved psychology program which is either in existence or formally available. It also stipulates that a program of psychology in a psych department of an accredited university constitutes an approved program. It also adds the definition of clinical psychologist which is 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 113th Legislative Day now identical to that in the Mental Health Code. deletes obsolete language.

"Is there any May 3, 1984 It also I urge your favorable support." discussion? There being no discussion, the guestion is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 104 'ayes', 2 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2359. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2359, a Bill fcr an Act concerning urban forestry programs. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative Nelson."

"Thank... Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is a Bill that has enjoyed widespread support from a number of environmental groups and municipalities. It is the Urban Forestry Assistance Act. And I would like to point out specifically to Representative Richmond and cthers that it is no longer in its original form and is, in fact, a substantive Bill but does not include the funding source that was originally a part of this legislation. I will be asking for an appropriation through the Department of Conservation budget to fund what are grants to municipalities for urban forestry programs. They're for the purpose of planting trees and for tree and insect control. Prior to any municipality granting the funds, an urban forestry plan approved by the Department of Conservation must be on file with the Department. Municipalities may apply jointly for aid under this Act, and the Department shall evaluate the municipality's application. Background of this Bill comes from my assistant village manager and other persons 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 interested in promoting wise use of our urban forests. If you look at the suburbs of Chicago from an airplane, they do look, in part, like forests, because many of them have wisely moved to plant a variety of trees when they realized the destruction that the Dutch Elm disease had caused where plans were not in effect early enough. This is a movement among cities in this state, and it begins with the recognition that there is reason to encourage the planting of trees because trees not only cut down on pollution that we think of as harmful to the environment, but trees also cut down on noise pollution. And they can block unattractive areas from sight. In the summer, they help shield our homes from the sun and cut down on energy costs. There are many, many proponents of this piece of legislation; and, at the present time, I know of no opponents. And I would ask for your favorable vote."

"Mr. Brummer."

"Yes, I guess... Would the Sponsor explain what the Amendment... How many Amendments have been adopted to this Bill?"

"Did you wish to address a question to the Sponsor or to the Clerk?"

"Yes. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"To whom did you wish to address a question?"

"To the Sponsor."

"The Sponsor indicates she will yield. For what purpose does Mr. Brummer seek recognition?"

"Yes, I would ask a number of Members to join me to remove this from Short Debate."

"You have two friends, Mr. Brummer, three, four, five, six. There are sufficient numbers to remove this Bill from the Order of the Short Debate Calendar. Now, Mr. Brummer, to whom did you wish to address a question?" 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day

"To the Sponsor, Mr. Chairman (sic

"The Sponsor indicates Brummer, do you have your guestion?" May 3, 1984 Speaker)." she will yield. Mr.

"Yes. How many Amendments have been adopted with regard to this Bill?"

"Representative Brummer, there have been tuc Amendments adopted."

"Okay. I know what the Amendment #31 does. explain what Amendment #2 does?"

Would you Nelson: "Amendment #2 entirely strips out the original funding source, and so it leaves the Fill in substantive form only. There is no funding source anymore in 2359, and I will be asking for an appropriation through our regular appropriation process under the Department of Conservation budget for this program."

"Are... Are you saying then that the urban 'forestration' would not come from the 4% tax that we imposed on timber sellers last year?"

"Exactly. That is exactly what I am saying, and that is what I want you to understand." Brummer: r: "Well, who would... who would be administering the Urban Forest... Forestry Develop... the Urban Forestry Development Act then or whatever you call it?"

"The Act would be administered by he Department of Conservation who still would retain the power to approve the grants that municipalities would submit to them. Also, you will recall that in the Act there is... in the original piece of legislation, there is created the Illinois Commission on Forestry Development. Яе are adding two members to that Commission so as to give some balance to those interests of urban forestry, and I am hoping that that Commission will take an active role in directing those kinds of plans." 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984

"Okay. The legislation that was passed last year, quite frankly, became quite controversial in my district in that it was a new tax on... on... on farmers who were selling timber. It's a tax that is imposed on them and on them only. No one else is taxed. The rationale of that legislation originally was that that money would go back to those same individuals to develop forestry 'forestration' programs. Now, are you saying that this Commission then, with the urban people, there would be urban people on that Commission, and they would be developing... the same Commission would be developing the urban 'forestration' plants?"

"No. If I gave that impression, I'm sorry. This Bill no longer has any connection, whatsoever, with that fund that was created under the legislation last year. The numbers of people on the Commission are 23 presently, and this only adds two people who have some interest in urban forestry. So the Commission is still, you know, heavily weighted in favor of those other interests."

"Right. But the Commission administers the fund currently. Now why are you putting two urban members on there if... if... if that Commission's going to have nothing to do with... with the urban program?"

"Because I don't think that it is appropriate in this state for us to think of a program in terms of us and them. I believe that, for instance, Dutch Elm disease can't tell when it crosses the boundary between urban and rural. Beetles can't tell the boundary. You know, it's... it's all one forest in the end, and I would prefer to look at it that way and have a Commission that is... has broad representation on it."

"Okay. So, as the Bill is, in order to do anything, you're going to need new money from the State of Illinois - 27  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 new General Revenue funds."

"That is correct, Representative Brummer."

"Do you have any indication from the Governor's Office or the Bureau of the Budget that they will support any appropriation to do anything with this Bill?"

"I asked for an appointment with the Governor, and back on April 4th, I had one which was postponed. And I have not yet gotten into see him, and it is for that purpose that I wish to meet with him."

"Okay. I guess my preference would be that there be a separate Commission set up because this Commission is funded with regard to only revenues derived from the sale of timber, and those revenues are designed to go back to the owners of that timber. As Representative Nelson has amended the Bill, part of that objection is removed; but, at that point, we are creating a new program to spend to spend new state funds on. And I guess everyone needs to make their own decision on whether that's wise or not."

"Mr. Brummer, have you finished? Representative Topinka."

"Yes, I rise in support of this measure. When we first had it in Committee, and I would like to make it clear, there must have been 27 opponents to this, all from agricultural areas and justifiably so because it did address the problem that Representative Brummer brought up. Not only has Representative Nelson worked out all of those problems, but she's put it into a posture that I think that everybody can be supportive of in the first place, especially those of us who have districts that are older and... and have lost tremendous amounts of trees because of Dutch Elm, related type of Maple diseases and things of this sort where our local communities really can no longer afford to reforest in any significant manner. It affects 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 our property values. It affects our ability to be able to attract people to those suburbs. It affects business interests. It affects everybody straight across the board. So I would encourage an 'aye' vote, especially if you core from suburban Cook County."

"Representative Nelson, to close."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, I believe that this urban forestry development program is a very good program for municipalities statewide. I also believe, as I said to Representative Erummer, that trees, that forests in this state should nct and do nct represent urban ΟΙ rural interests. All of us, no matter where we live, benefit from the wise management of our forestry resources. It is an important program, albeit a fledgling one, and I think that we have worked out all the problems that people had with the Fill originally. Froponents of the Bill include the Illinois Environment Council, the SIU Department of Forestry, the Woods Froducts Association, University of Illinois Department of Forestry, Department of Conservation, the Municipal League, the City of Chicago, the Landscape Contractors' Associated Employers and a number of individual villages as well as the Morton Arboretum. I would ask for a favorable Roll Call."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' A11 those in favor will signify by voting 'aye", all those opposed by voting 'no". Have all vcted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 85 ayes, 20 'nos". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2394, MI. Stec2o. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Fill. House Bill 2420, Mr. Rea. Mr. Clerk, read the Fill."

"House Bill 2420, a Bill for an Act to amend the 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 River Conservancy District Act and the Election Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Rea."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 2420 simply amends the River Conservancy District Act and only changes the selection process of the board of trustees. It does not change the representation, nor numbers, and only affects the one conservancy district in my area. And I would ask for a favcrable Roll Call."

"Mr. Harris. Mr. Harris. The Gentleman indicates he is not seeking recognition. The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question, there are 108 'ayes', no one voting "no". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2460, Mr. John Dunn. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2460, a Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Income Tax Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Dunn." Dunn, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The purpose of this legislation is to provide equity for partnerships and subchapter 'S' corporations with corporations and individuals in connection with the investment tax credit for investment in enterprise zone areas throughout the State of Illinois. There was no opposition to this Bill in Committee, and I would request a favorable Roll Call."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' For what purpose does Mr. McCracken seek recognition?"

"Will the Sponsor yield?" 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984

"The Sponsor indicates he will yield."

"Will the credit pass through and... affect personal returns of the principals of the corporation?" Dunn, J.: "Of a... It is my understanding, yes. With regard to partnerships and subchapter s corporations, the credit will pass through in accordance with the ownership of the entity whether it be partnership, cr distributive share of a partnership or stock ownership in the subchapter 's' corporation."

"And is the credit for the full amcunt allowed regardless of whether its a leveraged purchase or a cash purchase of the equipment?" Dunn, J.: "In both instances, the credit is distributed exactly the same way as income or profit would be distributed to that particular entity."

"Well... I don't have any quarrel with it. I'm just trying to figure out, will this allow for, in effect, larger deductions than at-risk cash for subchapter 's' or partnerships?" Dunn, J.: "No. No, it's an investment credit. It's a one-half of one percent investment credit."

"Okay. Thank you."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 108 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. For what purpose does Mr. Hallock seek recognition? Record Mr. Hallock as 'aye'. On this question, there are 109 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2507, Mr. Wolf. Mr. Wolf. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2507, a Bill for an Act tc amend the 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF GEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 Sanitary District Act. Third Beading of the Bill."

"Mr. Wolf."

"Thank you, Br. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 2507 is an Amendment to the Sanitary District Act of 1917, and it simply provides that certain portions of one sanitary district, which is the Metro East Sanitary District, can be included in another sanitary district at a regional concept that has to be formed at the mandate of ΕΡΑ. This Bill provides for permissive and enabling legislation. It does have a referendus for any community that goes into the regional concept, and I would ask for your support."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye", all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 106 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Fill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2521, Мг. Giorgi. Is Mr. Giorgi in the chamber? House Bill 2578, Mr. John Dunn. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2578, a Bill for an Act to add Sections to the Illinois Insurance Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Cunn." Dunn, J.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The purpose of this legislation is to close a gap in insurance policies which heretofcre has existed. It sort of works this way; that where, for example, a father is driving a car with his child as a passenger, and there is a collision caused by a third party, and the child sues the third party because of the family exclusion provision in the insurance policy, the father way be required to pick 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day up a portion of Contribution Act. the child's expenses May 3, 1984 because of our This would eliminate that possibility and close that gap, and it is legislation which I think is... is needed and proper. And I would urge its adoption."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all vcted who wish? Bave all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 101 'ayes', 3 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2596, Mr. DeJaegher. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2596, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Municipal Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. DeJaegher."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. What this Bill does is it amends the Municipal Code, permits cities of less than 100,000 population to adopt, by referendum, a system of staggered teras for aldermen. On the last election, the citizens of East Moline created somewhat of a problem for themselves. They cut the size of the aldermen board from 14 members to 7. At the present time, there is no proviso in the statutes that permits this particular change. And what this change does, it does by referendum, and the people will be voting on it again, to permit the aldermen to run on staggered teras, which basically says those that are coming from an even ward would be voting for a two-year ters. Those were voting... Those members from an odd ward would be running for a four-year term. It's a very important piece of legislation. As all af you know, there are municipal elections going to be conducted in 1965 (sic - 1985). 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 Hopefully that you'll concur with me and give me a favorable vote on this particular Bill. Thank you."

"Mr. Harris."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor indicates he will yield."

"Representative, why do you feel that it's necessary to have staggered terms for aldermen?"

"I want to retain some type of continuity; because, to discharge a complete set of aldermen, these people would not be knowledgeable for oncoming representation. And it's often possible, as you know, that various cities are working on legislative programs and programs for implementation; and, for a newcomer to become knowledgeable, it would be restrictive for him."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 103 'ayes', 7 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2658, Mr. O'Connell. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2658, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to community currency exchanges and ambulatory currency exchanges and to make appropriations thereof. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. O'Connell."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Presently, the Department of Financial Institutions is required to inspect annually each and every ambulatory currency exchange in the state. This Bill will eliminate the mandatory nature of the annual inspections and put it 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day into a May 3, 1984 discretionary posture with the Department Financial Institutions. of The discretionary ability on the part of the Department of Financial Institutions as to whether or not to inspect an ambulatory currency exchange is designed to free up the Department to spend its time and expenses in areas where there is a need for inspection. would also be a... a fee-saving device for those currency exchanges. So both the inspected and the inspectors will benefit by the discretionary aspect of the Bill. If a It currency exchange needs inspections, it will be inspected."

"The Chair would like to explain that the TV camera on the floor belongs to the Legislative Council which is taping for the presentation to be made to your successors who will arrive in January of 1985. So is there leave granted for that purpose? Leave is granted. Back to House Bill 2658. Mr. O'Connell has explained the Bill. Is there any discussion? There being no discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Mr. Greiman."

"Mr. O'Connell, I... I was a little confused, I think, and perhaps, you could explain. You said that a... the annualized inspections were being discontinued, and they would inspect only when they had to inspect. How do they know that they have to inspect, if they haven't inspected? Have we got a Catch-22, sort of?"

"No. There's not a Catch-22 aspect to it. Right now, by rote, motorized compulsion, they go to each and every ambulatory currency exchange. They will know if there is... there are complaints, if there are discrepancies. They can be aware of problems without having to go through the lengthy process of inspections."

"So then it's basically a question if they receive complaints. If they don't receive complaints, they won't know. Right?" 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day

"Not necessarily. Financial Institutions May 3, 1984 The inspect... The Department of can establish an inspection every two years, every three years, every five years or based upon complaints."

"I see. What do they inspect when they inspect? What is it that they inspect?" O'Connell; "I'm not aware of what they inspect."

"I mean what are... what are we abolishing? What is it they inspect?"

"I don't know what we're... what the exact process of the inspection is, except that the fees are based on a day... I think it's 75 dollars per day. So it would follow that the inspections are rather thorough and that they would go over receipts, vouchers, anything that would reflect how the currency exchange is operating."

"So it's not... it's not anything to do with the vehicles. It's to do with their books and records. Is that it?"

"I'm sorry. I can't hear you."

"Basically to do with their books and records then."

"I would imagine that's correct."

"Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 87 'ayes', 9 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2666, Mr. Mautino. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2666, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act in relationship to licensing and regulating certain games of chance. Third Reading of the Bill." 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day

"Mr. Nautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May 3, 1984 Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this legislation is very simple. It adds to the existing authorization for organizations that can be licensed in the state to conduct raffles, and that inclusion is a... a nonprofit, voluntary business organization. They fall in the same classification as labor organizations and other nonprofit organizations to conduct raffles. That's what it does, and I ask for your favorable support."

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 102 'ayes', 2 people voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair would like to introduce a group seated in the gallery at the rear of the chamber from India, and they are with the Rotary Exchange Group. And they are visiting Northern Illinois University, and today they are with the Streator Rotary Group from Streator, Illinois. So if those gentlemen would rise. House Bill 2797. The Sponsor indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 2798, Mr. Friedrich. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2798, a Bill for an Act to amend the Motor Fuel Standards Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Friedrich."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, this Bill requires that when methanol or ethanol is added to motor fuel that it be so labeled at the pumps. Now the reason for this is that methanol, particularly, is... is much lower in cost than gasoline, for example, and it is a corrosive material. 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 And some of the dealers have been adding it to motor fuel to reduce the cost, but they're not warning the people of the problems that it caused. Representative Mautino and I introduced this Bill, and incidentally, it does have the backing of the Motor Vehicle Manufacturers' Association. Some of them are threatening to remove from the gar... the warrantees if they can show that methanol has been used because it is corrosive and causes considerable problems. I would yield to Representative Mautino for remarks on it."

"For what purpose does Mr. Cullerton seek recognition?"

"I just want to ask a question of the Sponsor, if he'll yield."

"The Sponsor indicates he will yield."

"Representative Friedrich, in the Bill, you strike a mental state for the criminal offense that accompanies this particular piece of legislation. Are you doing that to make it a strict liability business offense? Is that your intention?"

"That... That's right. We just want a warning to the public to... that they're being... this is being introduced in the motor fuel so that they can make their own determination whether they want to buy it or not."

"Well, that... So that if the... if the retail merchant inadvertently or unknowingly violates the law, they'd still be guilty of a business offense and subject to a fine of a thousand dollars?"

"That's true."

"Okay. Thank you."

"They have the responsibility... their product."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe Representative Friedrich asked me to close on this particular piece of 38  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 legislation, if there were nc further guestions. Basically the Amendments that were adopted puts the provisions within the purview of the United States Environmental Protection Agency. The guidelines for the implementation of the labeling is... will now be the same throughout the state and throughout the country. In the second portion, the second Amendment that was adopted sets up the hundred dollar administrative fee to the Department of Agriculture, who also signed off on the Amendment and the legislation. And we ask for a supportive position by the Membership?"

"The question is, 'Shall this Bill pass?' All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question, there are 110 'ayes', no one voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Fouse Bill 2803, Mr. Pierce. Mr. Fierce. Is Mr. Pierce in the chamber? Did you wish to call your Bill to move the Lake County sewage into Cook County? Mr. Clerk, read the Pill."

"House Bill 2803, a Bill for an Act to enlarge the corporate limits of the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Mr. Fierce."

"Mr. Speaker, about fifteen years ago some farmers and landowners in Wheeling Township, in my district, disannexed... disconnected from the Metropolitan Sanitary District, because they didn't need sewers, they thought, in order to save themselves some tax money. About ten years later they sold off their land to developers who have now built townhouses on the property. Unfortunately, in trying to break down the bills to the owners of the townhouses, it was found that part of the buildings are in the sanitary 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 district, and part are without the sanitary district. And it's the desire of everyone in the area; the residents, the developer, the Village of Buffalo Grove, which has now incorporated the area, and the sanitary district, that this area come back into the Metropolitan Sanitary District, pay its taxes in full to our sanitary district and receive the benefits of that district. So the Bill is noncontroversial. It did take legislation to reannex this territory in Wheeling Township located entirely in the Village of Buffalo Grove back into the sanitary district. And I urge passage of the Eill."

"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass?' Those in favor shall vote 'aye', those opposed vote 'no'. Have all vated who wish? Have all vated who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Cn this question there are 102 'ayes', 3 voting 'no". This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2816, Mr. Erummer. 2816. Mr. Brummer. The Chair recognizes, Mr. Brummer."

"Yes. Thank you..."

"Mr. Brummer, did you wish to call this Bill?"

"I think so. I'm not sure which one it is."

"Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2816, a Bill for an Act in relationship to state occupation and use taxes. Third Beading of the Fill."

"Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Legislature... of the House. This Bill really addresses an oversight that occurred last year when we exempted replacement parts on manufacturing machinery and equipment from sales tax. The oversight at that time was that we did not include within that exemption graphic arts printing equipment; because, for some reason unteknownst to me, they 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 appear in a totally different portion of the Revenue Code. And when the Legislative Reference Eureau, or whoever was drafting this, was going through the various Sections they did not pick-up that Section. So what this Bill does is provides that replacement parts on graphic arts printing equipment will be exempt from sales tax, as is manufacturing machinery and equipment today. That would be applicable to the printing industry, to the newspaper industry. And I would request your favorable vote."

"The question is 'Shall this Fill pass? All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye, all those opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 107 'ayes', 1 person voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2887, Mr. Yourell. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill."

"House Bill 2887, a Bill fcr an Act to amend Sections of an Act to revise the law in relationship to recorders. Third Reading of the Fill."

"Mr. Yourell."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2887 provides that a county may provide for an additional one dollar fee for filing documents in the Recorder's Office. And this money is to be used for computer equipment and micrographics, and those things that are necessary to...for the storage of data. It's permissive legislation, and it's needed by the many counties in the state. And I urge your favorable vote."

"The question is 'Shall this Bill pass? All those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 question there are 105 'ayes', 3 voting 'no'. This Bill, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On the Order of House Bills Third Reading, there appears House Fill 569. The Sponsor indicates she does not wish to call her Bill. House Bill 598. Mr. Clerk, read the Bill. Mr. Matijevich, would you come to the podium?"

"House Bill 598, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Public Aid Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Representative...Representative Braun."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. As amended, this legislation incorporates our standards or language, which will allow for the establishment of standards by the Department of Public Aid for changes in the grant level for all categories of people therein. It is agreed upon or was agreed upon in Committee by the Department. And I encourage your favorable consideration."

"Representative Braun has moved for the passage of House Bill 598. Representative Piel, for what purpose do you rise?"

"I'm not sure if the Amendment took care of this or not, but... or the Amendment changed it at all, but, Representative, could you tell me? Do you have any idea of what the cost of this... the increased cost of this would be?"

"Representative Braun."

"Representative, I don't have my files with me on this Bill, because I thought that we had agreement on it. I can't answer the questions. I just don't have my files with me on the Bill."

"I mean, are we talking about a hundred thousand dollars or, you know, a couple million? Do you have any..." 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984

"It doesn't have a direct cost at all is the problem. It allows for the setting of standards so that the standard of need can be determined. So there is no cost associated with it in a direct way. There may be costs in future years as they make decisions about the standard, but it allows the Department to make those decisions. And the Department of Fublic Aid signed in on the Bill. The Amendment took out one part of it that they thought would have made it expensive in the future."

"The only question... The only reason I asked the question is because it had on here that the Department of Public Aid has indicated that additional funds would be used to equalize grants rather than give across-the-board increases. And I was just wondering what type of funds they were talking about."

"No funds right now. It just again allows them to make those kinds of decisions and determinations in setting the standard and level of need... a standard need and level of grant."

"Fine. Thank you."

"Being no further discussion, the question is 'Shall House Bill 598 pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed by voting 'nc'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 80 'ayes'...81 'ayes', 21 'nays', 2 answering 'present'. House Bill 598, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 762. Representative Karpiel, are you ready? Representative Karpiel? Representative Karpiel? Read the Bill."

"House Bill 762, a Bill for an Act relating to land use. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Lady from DuPage, Representative 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 113th Legislative Day Karpiel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 762 establishes a method for a municipality to protest to a county board when they are going to either site or expand a landfill within a mile and a half of the municipality's borders. This doesn't mean that they cannot still site that landfill or expand that landfill within that area. It just simply sets up a method by which the municipality may protest in writing. If they do that, then the county board must approve that siting by a three-quarter percent of the board. Municipalities, at the present time, have this same type of a protection or this same type a of protest policy or procedure in matters of zoning. If a county wants to zone the unincorporated areas within a mile and a half radius of a municipality and if the municipality objects, then the county board must pass that zoning with a three-quarter percent... or three-quarter of the board. So this is just simply giving the municipalities the same protection for the siting of landfills that they have in zoning cases. And I'd appreciate your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Karpiel has moved for the passage of House Bill 762. Is there any discussion? There being none, those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 92 'ayes', 1 'nay', 9 answering 'present'. House Bill 762, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 825, Representative Bopp. Is he in the chamber? Representative Bopp, are you in the chamber? I don't see him. Out of the record. House Bill 1069, Representative Steczo. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1069, a Bill for an Act to amend 44  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 Sections of the School Code. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Steczo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1069 is a Bill that would require the State Board of Education to receive reports from local school districts, relative to the enrollment in each class on the first day of school in November. This Bill was adopted unanimously by the House Elementary and Secondary Education Committee. And it was amended in a way so as not to provide a great deal of burdensome work for school districts. Each year now, school districts, at this time of the year or in November, have to provide information to the State Board of Education as to the number of attendance centers, the number of men and women teachers, enrollment by grades and total enrollment. What we're asking them to do, in this case, is just to make one other calculation to provide us actually the information as to what class sizes are so that information can discerned and compared throughout the state. And I would ask for the support of the House."

"Representative Steczo has moved for the passage of House Bill 1069. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. On this question there were 102 'ayes', 5 'nays'. And House Bill 1069, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1123, Representative Sam Wolf. The Clerk will read the Bill."

"House Bill 1123, a Bill for an Act to amend the Metropolitan East Sanitary District Act. Third Reading of the Bill."

"The Gentleman from Madison, Representative 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 113th Legislative Day Wolf. Representative Wolf."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 1123 makes several changes in the Metro East Sanitary District. That's a district that encompasses areas in two counties, mainly Madison and St. Clair Counties. Some of the changes that it addresses is to give permission to the board to sell property which now is excess acreage insofar as that district is concerned and is considerably costly insofar as the maintenance. It alsc provides that a present member of the board can be appointed an executive director. It also removes the provision that the executive director has to be a certified engineer and makes provision for contracting out for those services. It also provides for salarying the members of the board to the extent of the lower of one of two costs, the lowest salary pertaining to board members of either St. Clair or Madison County. We believe that this legislation is very much needed for this particular district. It needs to be enacted primarily to make it possible for the executive director, as I have indicated before, to be a member of the board. I would ask for your support."

"Representative Wolf has moved for the passage of House Bill 1123. Is there any discussion? Hearing none... I'm sorry, Representative Brummer, Gentleman from Effingham."

"Yes, will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates he will. Proceed."

"Representative Wolf, I can't really tell from the synopsis, and I haven't had a chance to look through the analysis. Is this applicable only...only to the Metro East Sanitary District?"

"Only to the Metro East Sanitary District, which is constituted by a separate Act." 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day

May 3, 1984 "So the provisions regarding salary and sale and lease of property, and so forth like this, have no application to any other drainage district?"

"No application."

"Thank you."

"Representative Flinn."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in support of this Bill. I was the original Sponsor of the Bill that revised and made...created the Metro East Sanitary District Act. And there were some things that we did wrong. We tried to pattern this Bill after the St. Louis Sanitary District, Metropolitan Sanitary District, and we had the requirements for an engineer much too stiff for what is needed in the metro east area. I support Representative Wolf. This Bill came up last year, and Representative Younge had some problems with it. We've been able to iron out those problems. We have all the people in the two counties involved, in the political community involved, in agreement with the changes. These changes are necessary, and it should be done for the efficient operation of the district. And I support it."

"The question is 'Shall House Bill 1123 pass?' Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question there are 105 'ayes', no 'nays'. And House Bill 1123, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair would like to call attention to the Members that the Speaker has distributed, and you will receive on your desk very shortly, a recess Committee schedule for tomorrow. So, if you're on those Committees or you have Bills in those Committees, pay attention to the 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 time schedule and the room numbers of the recess Committee schedules. House Bill 1186, Steczo. Out of the record. House Bill 1188. Out of the record. 1190. Out of the record. 1134. Out of the record. 1448. Out of the record. 1474, Steczo. Read the... Out of the record. 1522. Out of the record. 1587, Renan. Read the Bill."

"House Bill 1587, a Bill for an Act relating to the physical facilities of the Illincis Public Community College District. Third Reading of the Bill."

"Gentleman from Cook, Representative Ronan."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. This Bill was heard in the Higher Education Committee. It's the health, life and safety legislation for the community college system. Basically what it does is it allows community colleges to have emergency authority in life-threatening situations to make repairs upon their facilities. It's an important piece of legislation. We had all the community colleges in the state present in Committee to testify on the need. What we've got is a situation where emergency repairs have to be done at these facilities. They don't have the resources to do it, and this will give them the opportunity to get those monies to do the job. I move for the adoption of House Bill 1587."

"The Gentleman has moved for the passage of House Bill 1587. Representative Hawkinson."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Indicates he will. Proceed."

"Representative, you've mentioned the emergency situation. Isn't it, in fact, true that this is a tax increase without referendum that would apply to such things as energy improvements, as well as emergency building things?"

"Yes, it deals with health, life and safety legislation so 48  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 that if there's an energy need on a facility, there's no reason in having an institution that's not energy efficient. You understand that, Representative."

"And under this Bill, could a community college replace all of the roofs of all of its buildings as long as they added another inch of insulation?"

"Would you repeat the question? I've got a staff person talking to me."

"One moment. I thought this was going to be a little shorter, and we have a distinguished Sen...We'll get right back to this. Put we have a distinguished Senator from across the aisle. Senator Sam Vadalabene wants to address the House for one moment. And then we'll get back to this business. Senator Sam."

"Yes. Thank you very much, Representative Matijevich. Just the other day, you passed and adopted House Joint Besolution 142 that was offered by Representative Diprima. The Senate just adopted the House Joint Resolution, which, in effect, honored me; because, on Monday, May the seventh of this week...of next week, they're dedicating the new multi-purpose building on the Edwardsville campus at SIU Edwardsville, and they're going name it the Vadalabene Center. And my reason for being here today is that I could not have done that alone. It took the help of both sides of the aisle, the Democrats and the Republicans in the House and the Democrats and the Republicans in the Senate, on a project that started, this latest project, in 1977. So, Monday at 11:00, when they dedicate that building the Vadalabene Center, I want you to know that I am sharing this with each and everyone of you; because, without you, this event would have not been made possible. Thank you and God bless you."

"We will return to House Bill 1587. 49  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 Representative Hawkinson, you vere asking Representative Ronan some questions."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative, is not this Bill so amended in a way to be egual to the authority currently present under the elementary and secondary Bill of like nature?"

"Yes. Yes it is. This is similar to the Common School Fund."

"Thank you."

"Representative Satterthwaite."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I just rise in support of this Bill. I understand that we do not want frivolous kinds of things to come under this special provision, but I think the Amendment that went on in House Higher Ed Committee makes sure that this has appropriate approval not only by the local community college board, who are elected officials, but alsc by the State Community College Board to make sure that it is not something that as may have been implied earlier, just ripping off a roof and putting insulation in. It's only for very strict emergency measures. And I urge your support."

"The Lady from Cook, Representative Loleta Didrickson."

"Yes. Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, I, too, rise in support of this legislation. A number of my local community colleges have called me in response to the Amendment that I put on in the House Eigher Ed Committee. I think Representative Satterthwaite has certainly explained the fact that there are some provisions here, safeguards, three of them built in that are very crucial in this respect. There's a one and a half million dollar cap on the bonding authority. She mentioned the fact for local control. This has to be approved by your local board of 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 trustees and the fact that the State Poard has to approve not only the plans but also the bonding authority, the costs. I urge your vote on this. Your community college would appreciate it."

"The Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Klemm."

"Will the Sponsor yield for a question?"

"Indicates he will. Proceed."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just have a couple of What questions on the Amendment which apparently deleted everything. And I wanted to be sure about the tightening up of that provision that you have, Representative. about simple repairs of maintenance of the college itself. Can they in some way use these funds or this additional levy money for just plain maintenance items?"

"No. This would not... This could not be used for regular maintenance at the facility."

"Is there any special approval that has to be done, before they could expend these funds then?"

"Bight. It has to be approved by both the local college board and by the state college system SO that it's not going το be used for frivclous repairs. You're going to have tremendous scrutiny over the...over the expenditure of funds."

"Well, it appears as if you've cleared all the questions, and I commend you on your work. And I do support the Bill. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative."

"The Gentleman from Vermilion, Representative Stuffle."

"Br. Speaker, Hembers, briefly, the Fill has, I think, adequate safeguards. It is a step I think we have to take because of the lack of capital resources in the past few 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 years and the diminishing number of dollars that we put into capital projects for public community colleges. It has an architectural check-off safeguard. It has approval by the Community College Board. It has a threshold in it that covers Bepresentative Klemm's question. And it has a cap on maximum amount of money that can be derived. It's absolutely essential, and we have gct buildings that are already literally falling in and falling down in the state, that the community colleges be given this kind of authority. It's an extreme case but one that we've got to deal with now, because it's going to cost us even more in the future. We need this Bill most importantly for the community colleges in the state. And it's one we ought to give our approval to."

"There being no further discussion, Representative Ronan has moved for the passage of House Bill 1587. Those in favor signify by vcting 'aye', opposed by voting 'no". Have all voted? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk will take the record. Cn this question there are 68 'ayes', 29 nays", 7 answering 'present'. House Bill 1587, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Agreed Resolutions."

"House Resolution 143. This must be House Joint Resolution 143, DiFrima. And House Resclution 889, Keane."

"The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Greiman, on the Agreed Fesolutions."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the House adopt House Joint Resolution 143, which honcrs the introduction of Michael Mariani as a Illinois Coach Rall cf Fame, and House Resolution 889, which honors the celebration of the golden wedding anniversary of Mr. and Mrs. John Cranley. I move the adoption of the Resolutions." 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day

"Representative Greiman May 3, 1984 has moved the adoption of Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'nay". The Hotion is adopted. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolution."

"House Resolution 890, by Representative Slape Flinn Wolf and Younge, with respect to the memory of Bishop John N. Wurm of Belleville, Illinois."

Greiman Speaker Matijevich: "Representative Gre has moved the adoption of the Death Resolution. All those in favor say 'aye', opposed 'nay". And the Death Fesclution is adopted. Senate Bills First Reading. They are doing something over there."

"Senate Bill..."

"We'll be at ease for a moment. The tape machine isn't working right now. We'll be at ease for a moment. Sam Wolf. I think we can do this without the tape being on. Representative Wolf, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Por purposes of an announcement, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed."

"To remind the Members that there will be a meeting of the Personnel and Pensions Committee in Room C-1 immediately following adjournment."

"Representative Jaffe, Chairman of Judiciary. Representative Jaffe."

"Yes. Mr. Speaker, Judiciary will go back into session down in Room 114 at 3:30, instead of 2:00. So, we will start at 3:30. That will enable scue of the Members to get to some of the other Committees to present their Bills. As you know, we have been meeting in Judiciary arcund the clock, and this will enable the Members to move around and get their Bills passed out of some other Committee. So, we go back at 3:30 this afterncon. Of course, we'll be in 53  113th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 3, 1984 session tomorrow morning at 9:00."

"Chairman of Revenue, Representative Dan Pierce."

"Mr. Speaker, first an announcement. The North Shore Sanitary District was so inspired by Senator Sam Vadalabene having the building at Southern Illincis University named after him, that they're thinking of naming the North Chicago Sewer Works, the John Matijevich Pollution Control Facility."

"Vote 'aye'."

"But, also, on Revenue we're going to meet at 2:00 p.m. promptly this afternoon and again at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow when we'll finish up. Thank you."

"That's effluent not affluent, Dan."

"The effluent or the affluent."

"The Gentleman, Chairman of the Insurance, Representative Laurino, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, for purpose of an announcement.

"Proceed."

"Insurance Committee is scheduled to meet from 8:00 to 10:00. I think we can meet a little later, say about 9:00 and possibly get our work done by 10:15 or so. In C-1 tomorrow morning. 9:00 to 10:00, 10:30."

"Now the tape is working. Senate Bills First Reading."

"Senate Bill 1585, Brookins, a Bill for an Act creating the Robert's Memorial Statue Committee. First Reading of the Bill."

"There being no further business. Representative Greiman is...moves allowing 15 minutes for the Clerk to read Constitutional Amendments First Reading and Committee Reports... One moment. We'll get back to that. Jesse White, Chairman of Human Services, for what 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day purpose do you rise?" May 3, 1984

"Mr. Chairman... Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Human Services Committee will meet on the floor of the House immediately after adjournment."

"Representative Nash, for what purpose do you rise?"

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Committee on Elections will meet at 10:30 tomorrow in Room C-1, instead of 10:00 a.m., 10:30. 10:30 to 11:00. Thank you."

"Alright. There's been a Motion allowing 15 minutes for the Clerk to read the Constitutional Amendments First Reading, Committee Bills; that the House do now stand adjourned until 12:00 noon tomorrow, Friday. All in favor 'aye', opposed 'nay'. The Motion carries, and the House does now stand adjourned."

"Committee Reports. Representative Powman, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations II, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendation: 'do pass as amended' House Bills 2546 and 2547. Representative Stuffle, Chairman of the Committee on Economic Recovery, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 704 and 2279; 'do pass Short Debate' House Bills 3091, 3211 and 2953. Messages from the Senate. A Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secretary. 'Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has adopted the following Senate Joint Resolutions, the adoption of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representatives, to wit; Senate Joint Resolutions #108 and 109, adopted by the Senate May 3, 1984. Kenneth Wright, Secretary.' 'Senate Joint Resolution 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 Constitutional Amendment #98, Daniels. Whereas, the Illinois General Assembly has enacted the State Mandates Act in which the General Assembly states: The General Assembly finds that preceding actions of the State Government in specifying the manner, standards and conditions under which public services are rendered to citizens by the political subdivisions of this state on occasion have not resulted in equitable relationships between state and government and its local political sudivisions. Some of these actions have dealt in detail with the internal management of local governments, others have specified the establishment of new services and facilities without providing any new revenue sources or any financial participation in the state in meeting the additional costs. Still others have specified the adoption of higher service standards without a full assessment of the impact upon local expenditures and tax rates; and whereas, the General Assembly has on repeated occasions enacted legislation which has necessitated the expenditure of funds by local governments without a source of replacement funding therefore and which has been specifically exempted from the State Mandates Act. Therefore, be it resolved, by the Senate of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illincis, the House of Representatives concurring herein, that there shall be submitted to the electors of the state, for adoption or rejection at the general election next occurring at least six months after the adoption of this Resolution, a proposition to amend Section 8 of Article IV of the Constitution to read as follows: Article IV, Section 8. Passage of Bills. (a) The enacting clause of the laws of this state shall be: Be it enacted by the people of the state of Illincis, represented in the General Assembly. (b) 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day May 3, 1984 The General Assembly shall enact laws only by Eills. Bills may originate in either House, but may be amended or rejected by the other. (c) NO Bill shall become a law without the concurrence of a majority of the Members elected to each House. Final passage of a Bill shall be by record vote. In the Senate, at the request of two Members, and in the House, at the request of five Members, a record vote may be taken on any cther cccasion. A record vote is a vote by 'yeas' and 'nays on the Journal. (d) A Bill shall be read by title on three different days in each House. A Bill and each Amendment thereto shall be reproduced and placed on the desks of each Kember before final passage. Bills, except Bills for appropriations and for the codification, revision or rearrangement of laws, shall be confined to one subject. Except as otherwise provided in Subsection (e-2) of this Section, appropriation Bills shall be limited to the subject of appropriations. A Bill expressly amending a law shall set forth completely the Sections amended. (e) A Fill which would require the expenditure of a unit of local government or school district of funds in order to implement that Eill shall not become law unless either: (1) the Bill passes with the concurrence of at least three-fifths of the Members elected to each House or (2) the Bill passes with the concurrence of a majority of the Members elected to each House and that the Bill contains a provision providing for reimbursement to the unit of local government or school districts of those funds necessary to implement it. A Bill passed under this Subsection (e-2) shall not be subject to actions by the Governor under SubsSection (d) or (e) of Section 9 of Article IV of this Constitution but shall be subject to actions under Section (sic - Subsection) (a), (b) or (c) of this Section. For the purposes of this Subsection (e) 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 113th Legislative Day 'unit of the local government' May 3, 1984 shall have the meaning ascribed to it in Article VII, Section 1 of this Constitution. (f) The Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate shall sign each Bill that passed both Houses to certify that the procedural requirements for passage have been met. Schedule. This Amendment takes effect upon its adoption by the voters of this state. Adoption... Adopted by the Senate April 30, 1984 by three-fifths vote. Kenneth Wright, Secretary of the Senate. Committee Report. Representative Leverenz, Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations I, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984 and reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 2372, 2477, 2627, 2651, 2734, 2739, 2769 and 2786; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 2640, 2632, 2646, 2729, 2776 and 2785. No further business, the House now stands adjourned." 58  09/10/84 09:17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX MAY 03, 1984 PAGE 1 HB-0551 THIRD READING PAGE 13 HB-0598 THIRD READING PAGE 42 HB-0762 THIRD READING PAGE 43 HB-1069 THIRD READING PAGE 45 HB-1123 THIRD READING PAGE 45 HB-1587 THIRD READING PAGE 48 HB-1594 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-1734 THIRD READING PAGE 16 HB-1818 THIRD READING PAGE 17 HB-2291 THIRD READING PAGE 21 HB-2328 THIRD READING PAGE 23 HB-2359 THIRD READING PAGE 24 HB-2369 SECOND READING PAGE 9 HB-2420 THIRD READING PAGE 30 HB-2460 THIRD READING PAGE 30 HB-2507 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-2565 SECOND READING PAGE 10 HB-2567 SECOND READING PAGE 6 HB-2578 THIRD READING PAGE 32 HB-2596 THIRD READING PAGE 33 HB-2615 SECOND READING PAGE 11 HB-2658 THIRD READING PAGE 34 HB-2666 THIRD READING PAGE 36 HB-2668 SECOND READING PAGE 7 HB-2707 SECOND READING PAGE 12 HB-2787 SECOND READING PAGE 12 HB-2798 THIRD READING PAGE 37 HB-2803 THIRD READING PAGE 39 HB-2807 SECOND READING PAGE 7 HB-2816 THIRD READING PAGE 40 HB-2887 THIRD READING PAGE 41 SB-1585 FIRST READING PAGE 54 HR-0872 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 2 HJR-0142 OTHER PAGE 49 SJR-0098 FIRST READING PAGE 56 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER MADIGAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND JAMES WISHER PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 2 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 5 REPRESENTATIVE MATIJEVICE IN CHAIR PAGE 42 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 52 DEATH RESOLUTION PAGE 53 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 55 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 55 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 55 MESSAGE FROM SENATE PAGE 55 COMMITTEE REPORT PAGE 58 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 58