Illinois House Floor Debate — May 4, 1984

"The House shall come to order. The Members shall be in their chairs. We shall be led today in prayer by Rabbi Israel Zoberman of Temple Erith Sholom in Springfield. Rabbi Zoberman is a guest of Representative Michael Curran. Would the guests in the gallery please rise to join us in the invocation?"

Rabbi Zoberman: "Dear Legislators, this week the nation has observed the Holocaust Memorial, the destruction of one-third of the Jewish people at the hands of Nazi Germany during World War II. While the Jews were singled out for total annihilation, five million Gentiles were murdered as well. To remember the past is to pledge that its tragic chapters should never be repeated. It is to confront the potential inhumanity of the human being. It is to challenge the abusive powers of the modern state. It is to affirm man's creation in God's only sacred image with inalienable rights and responsibilities. Amen."

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Representative Ropp."

Ropp et al: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Mr. Greiman, are there any excused absences?"

"Yes. Mr. Speaker, I am advised that Representatives Brookins, Christensen and Keane are to be excused today."

"Let the record reflect those excused absences. Mr. Vinson."

"Representative Zwick and Representative Woodyard should be excused."

"Let the record reflect those excused absences. 1  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFBESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day Mr. Clerk, take the record. responding present.

May 4, 1984 There being 105 Members to the Attendance Boll Call. Committee Reports." There is a quorum "Representative Wolf, Chairman of the Committee on Personnel and Pensions, to which the following Eill was referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendation: House Bill 1216 do pass as amended. House Bill 1216 had attached Amendment #1 which was tabled previously, and the Committee adopted Amendment #1 with LEB #830221EGCBANO1. So this Bill is reported with two Amendment nunter ones do pass as amended. Representative Fierce, Chairman of the Committee on Revenue, to which the following Bill was referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the...reported the sare back with the following recommendation: Senate Bill 835 do pass as amended with House Asendment #1. On June 15, 1983, the House adopted Απεπλment #1 with LBE #8304143GLPKAN, and the Committee reported Amendment #1 with LBB #8304143GLPKAM01. So this Fill is reported with two Amendment number ones do pass as amended. Representative Dunn, Chairman cf the Committee on Transportation and Motor Vehicles, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 1, 1984, reported the same back with the following reccomendations: do pass HOUSE Bills 3233, 3234, 2972, 2888, 2994, 2368 and 3119; do pass as amended House Eills 2211 and 2430; "do pass Short Debate' House Bill 3116; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bills 3087, 2911 and 2913; dc pass as amended Consent Calendar House Bill 2784; do not pass House Bill 2997; 'Interio Study Calendar" EOUSE Bills 2772, 2963, 2964, 2965, 2966 and 3243. Bepresentative Brummer, Chairman of the Committee on Public Utilities, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 1, 1984, 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 reported the same back with the following recommendations: do pass House Bill 2987; Interim Study Calendar House Bill 3220. Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services, to which the fcllowing Bills vere referred, action taken May 1, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: dc pass House Bills 1658, 3038, 2878 and 2899; do pass as amended House Bill 2838; do pass Short Debate House Fills 1546, 2811, 2898, 2946, 3092, 3095, 2428 and 1726; do pass as amended Short Debate House Bills 3029, 3106 and 2438; do pass as amended Consent Calendar Bouse Bill 3125. Bepresentative Pierce, Chairman of the Committee on Revenue, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass', House Bills 3062, 3069, 2620, 3083 and 3084; do pass as amended House Bills 1348, 2423, 3001, 2208, 2364, 2512 and 2971; do pass Short Debate 29... House Bills 2919, 2783 and 3065; tabled in Committee House Bill 3170; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 2968 and 2563. Representative Wolf, Chairman of the Ccasittee on Fersonnel and Pensions, to which the following Fills vere referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: do pass House Bills 2865, 2885, 3032, 2606, 2595, 2921 and 2923; do pass as arended House Bill 243 and 338; do pass as amended Short Debate Bouse Bill 3026; 'tabled in Committee Eouse Bills 2614 and 2866. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Fills were referred, action taken May 2, 1994, reported the same back with the following recommendations: do Fass House Bills 1335, 2781, 2871; dc pass as amended Bcuse Eills 1800, 2726, 2827; do pass Consent Calendar House Fills 2496 and 2936; • do pass Short Debate Calendar Bouse Bill 3199; 'do pass 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 *tabled as amended Short Debate Calendar House Bill 2773; in Committee House Bill 3198. Representative Nash, Vice-Chairman of the Committee on Elections, tc which the following Bills were referred, actico taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: do pass EGUSE Bills 2862, 2470, 3181, 3183, 2717 and 2424; do pass as amended House Pills 3134 and 2716; do pass Short Debate House Bill 2952; 'Interio Study Calendar House Bill 2301. Representative Van Duyne, Chairman of the Committee cn Energy, Environment and Natural Resources, to which the fcllowing Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations. Continuing the report from Energy, Environment and Natural Resources: 'do pass' House Bills 315, 2299, 3036. Continuing Environment report: House... 'do pass' House Pills 3036, 3041, 3044, 3060, 3073, 3176, 3180, 3193, 3194, 3195, 3205, 3229 and 3232; do pass as amended House Bills 2040, 2215, 3037, 3039, 3040, 3042, 3043, 3045, 3098, 3174, 3175, 3177, 3178 and 3179. Representative Terzich, Chairman of the Committee on Executive, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 2, 1984, repcrted the back...the same back with the following recommendations: *do pass' House Bills 2376, 2411, 2710, 2809 and 2010; do pass as amended Bouse Bills 2736, 2775, 2598 and 2706; do pass Short Debate House Bills 2481, 2548, 2554, 2657, 2681, 2692, 2693, 2714, 2735, 2892, 2894, 2900, 3086, 3093, 3094 and 3126; 'do pass as amended Short Lebate House Bill 2576; do pass Consent Calendar Ecuse Eills 2927, 3089 and 2837. Representative Pierce, Chairman of the Committee on Revenue, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: do Fass House Bills 2876, 4  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 2884, 1395, 3165, 3206, 3172, 2961, 2510, 2416, 2743, 2986, 3024, 3243, 2192, 2931, 3197; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 2444, 3097, 1563 and Senate Bill 626; 'do pass Short Debate Calendar' House Bills 3166, rather 3161, 3144 and 2858; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' Senate Bill 833 and House Bill 3140; 'do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 1528; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 2356, 1736, 712, 1841, 2442, 2814, 766 and 3188. Representative Wolf, Chairman of the Committee on Personnel and Pensions, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 2671, 2674, 2926, 2906, 2455, 2747, 2459, 2476, 2891 and 2916; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 1210, 1211 and 3135; 'Interim Study Calendar' House Bills 3250, 3251 and 3258. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 3146, 2877, 2763; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 2630, 2558 and 3216; 'do pass as amended Short Debate' House Bill 2702. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass as amended' House Bill 1859 and 3123; 'do pass Consent Calendar' House Bill 3061; 'do pass as amended' Consent Calendar' House Bill 2622. Representative White, Chairman of the Committee on Human Services, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass' House Bills 1663, 3072, 2449, 3162 and 2909; 'do pass as amended' House Bills 2910, 3068, 3101, 2875, 2908, 2869, 2684, 2992 and 3152; 'do pass as amended Consent 5  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION ΣΕΒΑΤΕ May 4, 1984 Calendar House Bills 3120 and 3192; Interio Study Calendar' House Bills 1547, 2995, 2996, 3245, 1600, 3049, 2991 and 2704. Bepresentative Terzich, Chairman of the Committee on Executive, to which the following Fills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: *do pass House Bills 2934, 3027, 3056, 3085, 3096, 3108, 3128, 3138, 3139, 3203, 3208 and 3255 and House Joint Besolution Constitutional Amendment 25; do pass Short Debate Ecuse Bill 2962; 'dc pass as amended Short Debate Bouse Bill 3209; do pass Consent Calendar House Bill 3141; 'be adopted House Resolution 350; do not pass House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment #15; and Interim Study Calendar' House Bill 3147. Representative Nautinc, Chairman of the Committee on Select Committee on Small Eusinesses, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 3, 1984, геported the same back with the following recommendations: 'do pass House Eills 3063 and 3239; 'do pass as amended House Bills 239 and 2804; Interim Study Calendar House Bills 184, 1425, 1627, 1797, 2033, 2098, 3187, Senate Bill 108 and 1010. Bepresentative Younge, Chairman of the Select Committee on Urban Redevelopment, to which the following Bill was referred, action taken May 3, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendation: do pass as amended Ecuse Bill 1004."

"On page 15 of the Calendar, there appears the Order of the Consent Calendar Third Reading. Mr. Clerk."

"Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day. House Bill 1935, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act relating to the investigation and prevention of fire. Third Beading of the Bill. House Bill 2325, a Fill for an Act creating the Illinois Infrastructure Bank Act. Third Reading of the Pill. House Bill 2475, a Eill for an Act to amend an Act 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFBESENTATIVES TRANSCBIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day to revise the law in relation to coroners. May 4, 1984 Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2524, a Fill for an Act in relation to sanitary districts and railroad right-of-ways and public easements. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2525, a Bill for an Act to arend the Illinois Administrative Procedure Act. Third Feading of the Bill. House Bill 2569, a Bill for an Act tc amend an Act in relation to fire protection districts. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2575, a Bill for an Act to amend the School Code. Third Beading of the Bill. House Bill 2584, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act concerning jurors. Third Reading of the Bill. House Fill 2590, a Fill for an Act to amend an Act to revise the law in relation to fences. Third Reading of the Bill. House Eill 2617, a Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Corneal Transplant Act. Third Reading of the Bill. House Eill 2619, a Bill for an Act to amend an Act creating the Board of Higher Education. Third Reading of the Bill. House Fill 2752, a Pill for an Act to amend an Act in relation to the Department of Children and Family Services. Third Heading of the Fill. On Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day, we've removed House Bill 2525. Correction, that was 2325 that's the Consent Calendar. House Bill 2525 removed from remains on the Consent Calendar."

"The Clerk has read the Pills that appear on the Order of Consent Calendar Third Reading, Second Day. and with one exception that being House Bill 2325, we shall now proceed to a Boll Call on Third Reading which will be final passage. So all those in favor of the passage of these Bills will vote 'aye, all those opposed will vote "no". This is a Third Beading final passage Roll Call on the Consent Calendar. Third Reading final passage Boll Call on the Consent Calendar. Have all voted who wish? Have all 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. question there are 99 'ayes', no one vcting Bills, having May 4, 1984 On this "no". These received a Constitutional Majority, are hereby declared passed. If I could have your attention, please. It is the intent of the Chair to go to the Order of Motions and to consider thcse Ections which would discharged a standing Committee. Icċay will be the last day under our rules for these Motions to be considered. 1 would ask that the Chairperson of the Committee and the Minority Spokesperson be prepared to speak to these Motions when they are offered so that we can have before us the opinion of the Committee and possibly an explanation of whatever action was taken in the Committee. Mr. Klemm."

"For purpose of a parliamentary inguiry, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Klemm."

"Since today was the last day for Fills to be heard and moved out of Committee, some Motions might have been filed today that don't appear on the Calendar. Would they be called, Sir?"

"We will publish a Supplemental Calendar, and we will stop taking applications for the Calendar at 1:00."

"Fine. Thank you very much."

"Thank you. So if everycne understands what I just said, then I would ask the Committee Chairpeople and the Spokespersons to be prepared to speak to these Bills. So if you are a Committee Chairperson, please exa examine the Calendar and be prepared to speak to the Bill when it is called. On the Order of Motions, Ecuse Eill 91, McAuliffe. The Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Bill. House Bill 288, Mr. BCEE- Mr. Clerk, read the Motion."

"House Bill 288, pursuant to Bule 77(a), I move to discharge the Committee on Judiciary from further ε  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 consideration of House Bill 288, Representative Bopp."

"Mr. Bopp."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. First of all, let me say that I have always supported, generally, the Committee concept. And I want to say at this point that the Judiciary Committee has treated me extremely fair and gone above and beyond the call of duty on this particular Bill. And I want to thank the Chairman, Minority Spokesman and Members of the Committee. But for the reason of this particular issue that I am attempting to address here today, one that, in my judgment, affects the total educational system and social system throughout the State of Illinois, it is urgent that this Committee be bypassed so that this Body can deal with an ever increasing problem of truancy in the State of Illinois. As a result of many, many more young people being out of school..."

"Mr... Mr. Jaffe on a point of order."

"Mr. Speaker, I believe that the Gentleman should really not address the Bill but rather the procedures and the reason for his particular Motion. I don't think he should get into the Bill at this particular time or else I'm going to get into the Bill, and I don't want to prolong the...the debate on the floor of the House."

"Mr. Jaffe's point is somewhat well taken. The rules provide that you should direct your comments to the Motion. I would suggest for all of those who will offer these Motions that you attempt to abide by the spirit of the rule which says that you should direct your comments to the Motion with the understanding that it probably will be necessary to offer some explanation as to what the provisions of the Bill are. Okay, Mr. Bopp."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That's what I'm attempting to do and hopefully will do it very briefly. The fact that we 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEFATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 continue to expand our prison population in the State of Illinois is one of the reasons, if not one of the sole reasons that I'm attempting to bring this to the floor SO that ve can deal with improving the educational system in those areas where young people are currently truant. I urge your favorable support on this Motion to discharge Committee, because it is an attempt to deal with the very root of our educational system, particularly, as it affects those young people who choose not to attend school. It's a serious problem, one that deserves major concern. And I urge this Body to support this Motion sc that we can begin to deal with the root of a very serious problem for many, many young people as they grow up in their later lives. I urge your favorable support."

"The Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, Mr. Jaffe."

"First cf all, Mr. Speaker, I believe that the Motion is improper. This Motion was heard CD two different occasions within the Judiciary Committee. There Were two Roll Calls taken and; therefore, the Bill was tabled. I believe that the Motion that the Gentleman has up is improper, because he Moves ta discharge the Judiciary Committee when the Motion should, in fact, be a Motion to take from the table. So I would suggest to the Chair that the Gentleman's Motion is improper."

"The Chair would suggest that the Clerk give the file to the Parliamentarian, that we take this matter out of the record for a few minutes to give the Parliamentarian an opportunity to examine the record and the provisions of the rule. And we will go to the Order cf Motions on page 18 of the Calendar, House Bill 1149, Mr. Gicrgi. Is Mr. Giorgi in the chamber? House Bill 2354, Bepresentative DidricksOD. Representative Eidrickson." 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day

May 4, 1984 "Thank...Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I move to discharge House Bill 2354. It had a very brief hearing in Labor and Commerce. It deals with the awards on hearing loss workers' corp. It was a very brief hearing basically because of the last day rush of Bills being heard and a very special Bill being heard that day. I would suggest to you that it did not hear a fair hearing. We did not have a chance to respond to questions. And I respectfully ask for your 'yes' vote to discharge."

"The Lady moves to discharge the Committee on Labor and Commerce from further consideration of House Bill 2354. The Chair recognizes the Chairman of that Committee, Representative Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would disagree with the Lady's Motion. This conc...concept is not what I think we want to do as Legislators, and I would oppose the Motion."

"Question is, 'Shall the House adopt the Motion to discharge the Committee on Labor and Commerce from further consideration of House Bill 2354?' Those in favor will vote 'aye', those opposed will vote 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 47 'ayes', 51 'nos'. The Motion fails. House Bill 2358, Mr. Huff. Is Mr. Huff in the chamber? House Bill 2445, Representative Didrickson. For what purpose does Mr. Tuerk seek recognition?"

"Well, Mr. Speaker, 2445 and 2446 happen to be my Bills. They're listed under Representative Didrickson. I'll handle those if you don't mind."

"Fine. So let us take 2445 first. And the Chair recognizes Mr. Tuerk."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, very briefly, as maker of the Motion as indicated, I move to discharge the 11  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83BD GENEBAL ASSENELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 Committee on Labor and Commerce. And the reason I do this... make this Motion is the fact that this Bill along with others were never called in Committee even though they were posted on two or three occasions for hearing, and the Chairman of the Committee just was pressed for time and didn't get to these Bills and, therefore, didn't get a hearing. I would move that they be discharged and placed on the Order of Second Reading, First Legislative Day."

"The Chair recognizes the Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. We did run out of time. We were pressed for time, but I do oppose the Motion in the fact that this, again, is a concept that I don't think that we should be dealing with at this time. So I oppose the Motion, Mr. Speaker."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion... Mr. Tuerk."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, in a conversation with the Chairman the other day, he gave me every indication that he was going to support this Motion as well as the other Motions that I put, mainly because he failed to call the Bills. It wasn't that they weren't posted on three different occasions. There were plenty of time. I even asked him on several occasions during the hearing when and if he were going to call these Bills, and he gave me an indication that he would get to them. Now the fact that he ran out of time is no excuse. It is true this deals with the subject matter of import on both sides of the aisle and; therefore, I think that these two Bills, this one and 2446, should have a hearing on the floor of the House. And I would so move."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Labor and Commerce from further 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day consideration of House Bill 2445 be May 4, 1984 adopted?" Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 46 'ayes', 52 'nos'. The Motion fails. House Bill 2446, Mr. Tuerk."

"Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, the same type of presentation for this Bill as the previous Bill, and as I reiterate, it was posted on three different occasions. The Chairman failed to call the Bill. It was his decision not to call it. I was ready, willing and able to present the Bill to the Committee. I, frankly, think that's where it should have been heard. It was never called and; therefore, I think I deserve to have the Bill heard on the floor of the House. And I'd make the same appeal to this Bill as I did the previous Bill. So move."

"The Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. My commitment to Representative Tuerk was that I would state that we did run out of time. I did not at anytime make a commitment to support these Motions and, in fact, these concepts. So I would just say again, Mr. Speaker, that I oppose this Motion because of the concept."

"Mr. Tuerk."

"Well I guess it's a matter of semantics, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. That was not my understanding of any oral agreement between us. He said that he gave a commitment to the fact that we ran out of time. I don't know what that means at all, and I think that should be part of the record. He definitely told me he'd support the Motion, and I'm asking him to honor his commitment. Therefore, I renew my Motion to discharge Committee."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day on Labor and the Committee Ссплerce May 4, 1984 from further consideration of House Bill 2446 be adopted?" Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting no. Have all voted who wish? Bave all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Co this question there are 47 ayes', 48 'nos". The Motion fails. House Bill 2577, Bepresentative Wojcik."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I move to discharge Labor and Commerce Committee and advance to Second Beading House Bill 2577."

"The Lady moves to discharge the Committee on Labor and Commerce from further consideration of House Bill 2577. The Chair recognizes Mr. McPike."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A year ago, February, there was an agreement... reached in the Mansion that saved the unemployment insurance system two billion dollars over four years. Fart of that agreerent made by the Speaker of the House and Minority Leader Dani Daniels was that До Bill on unemployment insurance would be advanced without the support of both labor and business. We lived up to that agreement last year. We did pass five or six Bills that were supported by both labor and business. This year we would like to continue the agreement and not go back, not try to embarrass the Speaker of the House of the Minority Leader by discharging of Fills from the... from the Labor Committee that have not been supported jointly by both labor and management. So for that reason, I would oppose this Motion."

"The Chair recognizes the Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. The... Representative NcPike explained it very well, and I would, at this time, oppose the Ection." 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984

"Is there any further discussion? Mr. Tuerk."

"Well, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, it was interesting to hear the comments expressed by the Majority Leader on this issue; and, on balance, I would have to agree with the concept that that was an agreement of a year ago or two years ago, whatever the time frame vas. However, the other side of the aisle did, in fact, alter that agreement in Labor and Commerce this spring with the fact that some of the Bills that got out of Committee dealt with the subject matter and didn't necessarily have the agreement of both labor and management. Therefore, since there are SCDE Bills on the floor cr at least one that I can think of off hand, I certainly think that this Bill should be discharged and, therefore, get a hearing on the House floor since it wasn't called in Committee. The Chairman of Labor and Commerce has an unusual knack of not calling certain Bills in favcr of other Eills, depending on the Sponsor or the philosophy expressed by the Sponsor. So therefore, I think this Bill should be discharged and, therefore, come to the floor for a full discussion."

"Mr. Mays."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I do believe on this issue a brief explanation of the Bill itself would be in order for the benefit of all the Members on both sides of the aisle. Would the Lady consent to give a brief explanation of what this Fill does and also include what kind of possible impact it might have on our trust fund?"

"The Chair would like to reiterate my direction at the beginning of this Order of Eusiness. If there is to be an explanation of the Bill if you could just make it as brief as possible. So Representative icjcik."

"Yes, Mr. Chairman and Members of the House, this is a 15  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 4, 1984 pro small business Bill which is endorsed by the small business people of Illinois. What it does is it does help the small business individual to be able to transfer the unemployment совр. monies to the next emplcyer, so that he's not going to be hit when the employer goes from employee A to B or C. It goes back to the last employer."

"So then, this only applies in those cases of a voluntary quit, where the person subsequently moves on tc ancther jcb and another job and... on his own volition, and the liability then transfers back to the job, the criginal job, which he had voluntary left in the first place. Is that correct?"

"That's right. It's a voluntary leave."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just state to the Body that I think a 'present' vote on this Eill would be the correct vote and that we should keep the commitment that you made, Mr. Speaker, with the other side of the aisle sometime ago. So I would just say a 'present' vote is the correct vote."

"The question is, 'Shall the Cotion to discharge the Committee on Labor and Сспперсе from further consideration of House Bill 2577 be adopted?' Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 44 'ayes', 28 'nos'. The Motion fails. We shall return to Bouse Eill 288, and the Parliamentarian is prepared to render his ruling. Mr. Parliamentarian."

"On behalf of the Speaker, Mr. Jaffe's point is not well taken. The rule provides that no Bill or 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 Resolution may be voted on more than twice in any Committee to report the Bill or Fesolution favcrably to the House. One vote was taken to put the Bill in Interi Study and another vote was taken to report the Eill favorably."

"Okay. Mr. Jaffe."

"Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this particular Motion. As the Gentleman indicated, he had more than one bearing although we probably only had cne vote before the Judiciary Committee. We spent hours GD this particular Bill, heard this Bill in Subcommittee, in full Committee anytime he wanted to hear it, and I think we should defeat this Motion. I think it's a bad concept. Pasically what it does is makes truants subject to prison. And I would hope that we would defeat this Motion."

"Mr. Johnson." Johnson; "I was Minority Spokesman cn the Committee and with respect to my good friend, Representative Ropp, and I think he's conceded this, if we have any integrity in the Committee system at all, people should vote 'no' or 'present on this Bill. This Bill was accorded a full hearing, a full debate and for whatever criticism people might have from time to time in the Judiciary Committee, nobody can accuse Us of not looking at things in a deliberative ΟΙ analytical manner. The Eill was substantially defeated. And I think that to vote 'yes' on this Motion to discharge... and I looked over the Calendar. I think maybe there's опе other. I think Representative Davis has the Motion, There's only two Motions cut of the days and hundreds and hundreds of Bills we have to discharge. I think that's a trikute to the Committee. And I don't see how this Bill is really any different than the other hundreds cf Bills that WELE defeated in our Committee. I urge a 'nc' or a 'present' 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 4, 1984 114th Legislative Day vote."

"Mr. Kopp to close."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. As a result of a year long study involving many of the people who have opposed this Bill throughout the past year, a compromise proposal has been worked cut and was offered in Committee, and the Cosuittee did not see fit tc support a year long support of compromising on all sides. And I can assure that almost everybody has not agreed tc the whole portion of the compromise, but it is a compromise. I ask this Body to give that consideration to this whole group to permit this Body to vote on a ccefrorise that had been worked out by almost the entire segment of people involved in this particular area dealing with truancy. I ask your favorable support."

"The question is, Shall the Kotion to discharge the Committee cn Judiciary from further consideration of House Bill 288 be adopted? Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'c'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 42 'ayes', 52 nos". The Motion fails. House Fill 2607, Representative Barnes. Representative Barnes."

"Hr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to discharge Elementary and Secondary Education Committee and advance to the Order of Second Beading on House Bill 2607."

"The Lady has moved to discharge the Committee on Education from further consideration of House Bill 2607. The Chair recognizes Bepresentative Nelson."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is an important Fill and one that we need to consider carefully because there is a very, very 18  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 4, 1984 high cost involved here. This is the parcchial school busing Bill. It is not a part of the budget of the State Board of Education. The State Board of Education has recommended this year, that of the new acney available to the State of Illinois, which may amount to as much as five hundred and fifty million dollars, that two hundred and eighty-five million of that go for education. That would provide for full funding, fcr reimbursement of all QUE categorical... for increases in the state aid formula and yet, out of th that large amcunt cf ucney, no money is appropriated for this program. I strongly oppose the idea of providing public school funds for nonpublic students whose parents understand when they put their kids in a parochial school that they are doing so by their own free choice, and in order to provide a particular kind cf education for their student. It is inappropriate for us to spend public funds for those children. House Eill 2607 seeks to provide free transportation tc these students. And it has been estimated that shifting this burden to the state could cost Illinois taxpayers between five and 75 million dollars annually. That is a continuing cost. That is not a one-time shot. There is alsclutely ne rocm in the current budget for this kind of extravagant expenditure. The Governor, as a matter cf fact in his budget, only recommends that ve spend twenty-seven million dollars of the new money available for the entire educational elementary and secondary educational system throughout the entire state. This amounts to something like 114 for each student in this state. That is wcefully inadequate. And the idea that we can find money for this busing program is simply absurd. If that money were available, and it's not, it is really desperately needed to improve the quality of education in each school in this state. And I would urge a 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day *no vote on this discharge Motion."

"Eepresentative McGann." McGann: May 4, 1984 We "Thank you, Hr. Speaker, Members of the Assembly. Bust not forget that this is the Governor's Bill. The Governor wants to help the parochial schools in these outer districts. He is going to provide the uenies. In fact, he told me he was going tc provide it a hundred percent funding. Now, it's needed and we have to come about to the time when we're going to accept the responsibility to keep the educational programs going on in this state, because if the parochial schools start closing, DC budget will be large enough to be able handle and contain these students that are needing of education throughout the Re have to have this House Fill trought on the floor for full discussion. state. to I urge ycur 'aye vote to remove it. This is very important. It's the Governor's to help US Bill. The Governor wanted it, and he's going out with it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Representative Satterthwaite."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I don't believe we are here at this point to discuss the pros ΟΣ cons of the substance of this piece of legislation. We are here to consider whether there is some justification for discharging this Bill from Committee. The Bill1 Has heard in a very lengthy hearing in Elementary and Secondary Education, and the Sponsor chose not to bring the Eill tc a vote in Committee. I don't believe that we should subvert the Committee process by allowing that to happen only to accommodate the Sponsor on the House floor. I feel that the Bill could have been given a Ccomittee vote and if the Sponsor were successful in getting the support of the Committee, it would now be on the House floor. Since that opportunity was not exercised, I don't believe that it is 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 proper that we support this Motion to bypass the Committee process."

"The Chairman of the Committee on Education, Mr. Mulcahey, says that Representative Satterthwaite said it all. The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Education from further consideration of House Bill 2607 be adopted?' Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 57 'ayes' and 44 'nos'. The Chair recognizes Representative Earnes."

"Mr. Chairman, could I have a Poll of the Absentees?"

"Mr.... Representative Nelson."

"Mr. Speaker, if this Bill receives the requisite number of votes, I would ask for a verification."

"Mr. Clerk, read the absentees. Ladies and Gentlemen, we may have a problem with the Roll Call. No, the Clerk tells me that we have a good Roll Call from the machine. For what purpose does Mr. Pangle seek recognition?"

"Nothing. Thank you."

"Mr. Fangle."

"I just wanted to change my vote to 'aye'."

"Record Mr. Pangle as 'aye'. And Mr. Clerk, read the absentees."

Clerk Leone: "Poll of the Absentees. Ferrios. Brookins. Bullock. Christensen. Cullerton. Comico. Virginia Frederick. Dwight Friedrich. Giorgi. Hoffman. Keane. McPike. Taylor. Winchester. Woodyard and Zwick."

"Representative Younge."

"Mr. Speaker, how am I recorded?"

"Mr. Clerk, how is the Lady recorded?" 21  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day

"The Lady is recorded as voting "no"."

"Change my vote to 'aye please."

"Record Representative Representative Dwight Friedrich."

"Record me as aye'."

Speaker Madigan: "Becord Mr. Dwight Representative Virginia Frederick." May 4, 1984 Younge as 'aye. Friedrich as "aye'.

"Mr. Speaker, please record me as 'nc."

"Record Representative Virginia Frederick as no. Representative fice."

"Mr. Speaker, I change my vote to 'ayє"."

"Becord Mr. Bice as 'aye. Are there any further changes? recorded?"

Mr. Ryder. Mr. Byder. How is Mr. Ryder Clerk Leone: "The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Please change that to 'no' please."

"Becord Mr. Будег as 'ng". For what purpose does Mr. Klemm seek recognition?"

"May I ask how I'm recorded, Mr. Speaker?"

"How is the Gentleman recorded?"

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Would you please change my vote to "no*?"

"Record Mr. Klemm as 'nc'. On this guestion there are 59 'ayes', 44 'ncs". For what purpose does Mr. Neff seek recognition? Record Mr. Neff as 'aye'. For what purpose does Representative Fraun seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to request a verification Roll if it requires the requisite." Speaker of this

"Yes. We already have a reguest for a verification on file. Are there any further changes? On this question there are 60 ayes', 43 'ngs', 5 "present'... 1 'present', and there is a request for a verification. And... Representative Nelson. Bepresentative Nelson, would 22  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 4, 1984 you verify Representative Oblinger? Mr. Clerk, would you read the Affirmative Foll Call?"

Clerk Leone: "Poll of the Affirmative. Barnes. Breslin. Erummer. Capparelli. Curran. Davis. DeJaegher. DiPrima. Doyle. John Dunn. Farley. Flinn. Dwight Friedrich. Giglio. Hallock. Hannig. Harris. Hensel. Hicks. Huff. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. Matijevich. Mautino. Mays. McAuliffe. McCracken. McGann. Nash. Neff. f. Oblinger. O'Connell. Fanayotovich. Pangle. Bernard Pedersen. Fiel. Rheo. Rice. Richmond. Ronan. Ropp. Saltsman. Shaw. Slape. Stuffle. Terzich. Topinka. Tuerk. Turner. Van Luyne. Vinson. Vitek. Wait. Wojcik. Wolf. Younge. Yourell and Mr. Speaker."

"Bepresentative Nelson, are there any challenges?"

"Yes, there are, Mr. Speaker. Fepresentative Ereslin."

"Representative Breslin is in ber chair."

"Excuse me. Representative Capparelli."

"Mr. Capparelli is in the aisle."

"Representative John Dunn. Oh, scrry."

"He's in his chair."

"Representative Farley."

"Mr. Farley is in his chair."

"Representative Harris."

"Mr. Farris is at the rear of the chamber." lson: "Representative Hensel."

"Representative Hensel. How is Representative Hensel recorded?"

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. Hensel from the Ecll Call." lson: "Representative Buff."

"Mr. Huff. Is Mr. Huff in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?" 23  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINGIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 4, 1984

"The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. Buff from the Roll Call."

"Representative McAuliffe."

"Mr. McAuliffe is in the front of the chamber."

"Representative Shaw."

"Mr. Shaw is at the rear of the chamber."

"Bepresentative Turner."

"Mr. Turner. Is Mr. Turner in the chamber? Remove the Gentleman from the Foll Call."

"Representative Van Cuyne."

"Mr. Van Duyne is in his chair."

"That's all, Mr. Speaker."

"On this question there are 57 'ayes', 43 nos". For what reason does Mr. Johnson seek recognition?"

"Having voted on the prevailing side by which this Motion was defeated, I Love to reconsider the vote by which it was defeated."

"Let me declare the result. So, cn this question there are 57 'ayes and 43 ncs, and the Motion fails. And Mr. Johnson, as one of those who voted on the prevailing side, now moves to reconsider the vote by which this Hotion fails. And Bepresentative Nelson Loves to lay that Motion on the table. And those in faver say "aye", and those opposed say 'no', and the 'ayes" have it. And the Motion to reconsider is laid on the table. House Bill 2608, Representative Virginia Frederick."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to discharge Labor and Commerce Committee and advance House Bill 2608 to the Order of Second Reading. Mr. Speaker, in the last day in the crunch of all the Bills that were to be heard, my Bill was not called in Labor and Commerce. So I'm asking for the House to consider the Bill on the full House floor." 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984

"The Lady moves to discharge the Committee on Labor and Commerce from further consideration of House Bill 2608. The Chair recognizes the Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would oppose the Lady's Motion in that I don't think that this concept is a correct concept, and I would move for a 'bc" vote."

"The question is, Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Labor and CCHIEICE from further consideration.... For what purpose does Mr. Tuerk seek recognition?"

"I'd like to speak to the Motion, Mr. Speaker."

"Froceed, Mr. Tuerk."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the Bcuse, shat the sake of the Motion said is absolutely true, and what the Chairman of the Committee says whether he accepts the concept, Fut that aside. That's not part of the debate on the Motion at all. The debate on the Motion is such that this is another one of those Fills that the Chairman decided that he wasn't going to call and give the Sponsor a hearing on the Bill and; therefore, the Bill didn't see the light cf day. So what the make of the Motion is asking the House to do is to discharge the Cosmittee so at least it gets a fair hearing, concept or nc concept aside as the Chairman pointed out. And therefore, I rise in support of the Motion."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Labor and Ccomerce from further consideration of House Bill 2608 be adopted? Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Bave all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Gn this question there are 37 "ayes", 37 *nos. The Motion fails. House Bill 25  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF GEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION EEВАТЕ May 4, 1984 2793, Representative Pullen."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not wish to call my Motion at this time."

"I'm sorry, Representative, I didn't hear you."

"I do not wish to call my Motion at this time. Thank you."

"Thank you. House Bill 2829, Bepresentative Nelson."

"Thank you, Br. Speaker, Members of the Bouse. House Bill 2829 is a very simple Eill, but it would...it would extend or keep in place the powers of the Chicago School Finance Authority for a period of another three years. AS you know, the Chicago School Finance Authority was created as an oversight body to make sure that the Chicago schools published and lived up to a balanced budget. At the present time under current law, the Authority has four major oversight powers. Most of those powers have to do with certain veto authority. And I believe that the Chicago schacls would be in far worse straits if this oversight Authority had not been there. You will note that next year, for the '84, '85 school year, the Chicago Board of Education estimates that its deficit will be a hundred and seventy-one million dollars. Chicago Board of Education five years after a financial collapse still cannot obtain an investment grade for its hond issues and cannot, therefore, market its bonds. Since the spring of 1983, the Board has been without a chief financial officer. And I believe that it would be a very wise thing to keep in place the Chicago School Finance Authority. That is all that this Bill does, and I would ask for a favorable Roll Call on this discharge Motion."

"Mr. Nautino."

"Inquiry, Mr. Speaker. My Digest shcus 2829 to address 26  114th Legislative Day the question STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE May 4, 1984 of the attainment of age for enrollment into school. I look at the board it says 2829. I'd like to know what I'm addressing."

"Representative Nelson."

"Representative Mautino, not been updated. I'm sorry if your analysis has The Bill was amended in Committee and as it stands now, it only has to do with keeping the powers of the Chicago School Finance Authority in place for another three year period."

"Representative Stuffle."

"Sponsor yield to a question?"

"Sponsor indicates she will yield."

"What was the vote in Committee on the Bill?"

"Bepresentative Nelson."

"The vote in Committee on the Eill was 7 'yes', 11 'no". It was a straight partisan Roll Call for reasons I simply cannot understand. It should be a nonpartisan issue, Representative Stuffle."

"Representative Levin."

"I rise in opposition to this Motion. There was a long and rather extensive hearing in Committee in which all of the issues relating to this subject were dealt with. And I would just point out that what came out in Committee was that even without this formal extension, the board, an oversight board will continue to have a veto over the budget of the Chicago Board of Education. And if there are not balanced budgets, the lau frovides that the whole procedure kicks in again. It was the feeling of the Committee after extensive debate that this legislation was not necessary. And I urge an 'aye' vote on the Motion to discharge. A nc vote. "No vote."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Education...the Committee on Elementary 27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 and Secondary Education from further consideration of House Bill 2829 be adopted? Those in favcr will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting no. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all vcted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 40 ayes, 50 'nos". The Nation fails. House Eill 2929, Mr. Terzich. Mr. Terzich."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House Bill 2929 creates for Illinois what could be determine as a real clean air act by establishing a Fublic Saoking Act of 1984. Simply stated, this legislation would provide that Illinois Department of Public Health administer a program designating smoking areas throughout the state and what the Bill refers to as the areas of public use. The legislation was patterned very closely to a similar legislation in the State of Minnesota which has been working quite well since 1975. Similar legislation exists in 37 cther states. And I introduced this legislation not with the intent to harm any particular individual or group but to protect the larger segment of society from suckers. Therefore, the Bill makes space available for nonsmokers. And most of us will admit that the Bill would eliminate this intrusion on our breathing space by stating that ycu could smoke but only in designated areas. That the Fill... There was only one witness against this which was the Tobacco Industry. It did receive a substantial support from the Illinois Medical Association, the Illinois Heart Association, the American Cancer Society and many other professional and medical groups. The reason I move to discharge Committee, I think that this Bill is extremely important to the people of the State of Illinois. And for those, I think it would help protect the individuals lives as well as a cleaner environment. And therefore, I wculd nove to discharge 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83BD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CЕВАТЕ 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 Committee and let the entire Legislature have their say so on House Eill 2929. Smoking stinks."

"The Gentleman moves to discharge the Committee on Registration and Begulation from further consideration of House Bill 2929. The Chair recognizes Mr. Kulas."

"Thank you, HI. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I must oppose my esteemed colleague's Motion today on House Bill 2929. As Vice-Chairman of the House Registration and Regulation Committee, this Bill had a fair hearing in the Committee yesterday and was defeated by a vote of 8 to 5, and we feel that this is an issue for local government. It's not a state issue. The cost of enforcing a Bill such as this would be prohibitive. It'd be over six million dollars. At a time when we're trying to balance our budget putting a new program like this and mandating our local governments is ridiculous. If local governments want this, let local governments have its own ordinances and enforce it. In most cities, including home rule units, these types cf ordinances already in effect regarding nonsmoking, and this would definitely be a duplication of effort. I know this is 1984, and if you want big brother watching over you, vote for this Motion, but if you believe that the local units of government should have their say so, then vote against this Motion."

"Mr. Tate."

"MI. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I rise in opposition to the Mction. I agree with Bepresentative Kulas. This Bill received a very long, and thorough and fair hearing in the Committee of Registration and Regulation. This issue is a local issue. There is no question that...that we're going tc spend millions and millions of dollars of state taxpayers dollars for this issue. If the local... If lccal gcvernment decides that 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 this is an issue that they feel that they want to tie up their law enforcement agencies to adzinister, then allow the loc local government to do... Otherwise, I think this is exactly an issue that's... it related to the State Mandates Act. And I would just hope that all of Us will consider this when we force this down the locals throats if that's what we decide to do. I hope I encourage a "no" vote cn this. Thank you."

"Mr. Johnson."

"I think unanimously in the last year and a half to two years studies by not only industry but a whole variety of other groups, whose scientific track record is a good one, have demonstrated that smoking is not only hazardous to the health and welfare of those who do it which is their cin business and we ought to stay out of, but it also has a direct impact on people who through no choice of their own have to inhale smoke of other people. The studies clearly show that the incidence of respiratory ailments and circulatory ailments of those who are exposed on a regular basis to cthers who smoke is dramatically different from those whc aren't exposed to that. And I would suggest to you that this is a matter that no cne bas taken by the horns. The State Legislature, if no one else is going to do it, ought to. It's nct a guestion of individual liberty. Nobody questions scmebody's right to smoke. They question your right to make other people smoke and die of cancer and heart disease when they are exposed to it through no choice of their cwn. I think it's a good Fill, and I think it's an emergency situation. And it's something that ought to be addressed, and Representative Terzich's Bill and Motion do that very well."

"The guestion is, "Shall the Committee on Registration... Shall the Committee on Regulation and 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day Registration (sic Registration and May 4, 1984 Regulation) be discharge from further consideration of House Bill 2929? Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'nc'. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Terzich to explain his vote."

"Well, yes, Mr. Speaker, there were scme comments made with regard to the legislation and the controller of the ordinance. The Bill simply had mincr cffenses which are currently incurred at the present time in no sucking areas. It also include a civil penalty. There was no control method other than in local units. And the fact that the tobacco industry would say that would cost five million dollars was an outright lie. There was a lot of study on this, and certainly I think an individual shculd have the... the non-smokers should have just as much rights as those who dc socke. And all this Eill simply says is that you have to have a designated area for non-smokers. And if that's not asking too much, well, you go ahead and kill yourself."

"Mr. Ropp, to explain his vote."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this is a good piece of legislation that ought to be supported. There is no reason because of the concern for sales tax, because of the concern of money that is generated as a result of the tobacco industry being in business should be no reason that we should impact or cause people's health to be affected. This is a good Bill and ought to be supported."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 35 'ayes', 57 'nos'. The Motion fails. House Bill 2957, Mr. Winchester. Is Mr. Winchester in the chamber? Ecuse Bill 3103, Mr. Davis. Gentleman indicates he does not wish to call his Motion. House Bill 3105, Mr. Tuerk." 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day

"ΜΕ. Speaker, May 4, 1984 Members cf the Ecuse, House Bill 3105 is another Republican Bill of a long list of Republican Eills that the Chairman of Labor and Commerce just, on his own decision, failed to call. It's not that it wasn't posted properly, et cetera, but be just failed to call for a hearing. And, therefore, I think on that grounds alone it should come out onto the House floor. But in... when we get to the substance of the Eill, it addresses the collective bargaining for public employees issue which, as we all know, goes into effect this summer. What this Bill attempts to address are three or four of the real nitty gritty issues in that concept, and it's merely a cleanup Bill for understanding SO that there are no misunderstandings relative to the concept. I reiterate, it just never got a hearing in Committee and therefore, I think should be out anto the floor for all Members to consider. And therefore, I would make the Motion to discharge Committee and advance to Second Reading."

"The Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Br. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would oppose the Mction."

"The question is, 'Shall the Committee on Labor and Commerce be discharged from further consideration of House Fill 3105?' Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting no. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 46 ayes, 40 "nos'. The Motion fails. House Bill 3107, Mr. Tate. Mr. Tate."

"ur. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Committee... and... of the chamber, I rove to discharge Labor and Commerce Committee and advance this Bill to Second heading. This Bill is... amends the sinimum wage law. It just puts 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 Illinois statute in conformity with the federal statute. This is a part of the package of the National Federation of Independent Business People, truly a very pro-jobs Bill. Recently, the National Conference of Elack Mayors endorsed this idea, as well as many other active employer groups and job recruiting. This Fill did not receive a... It was the last Bill to be called in Labor and Commerce Committee yesterday, that, at that time, there were only nine Members present, which took all nine votes to get it out. And, obviously, with the run of the Dill cf the Session and Members running around trying to get their own Bills out, it really did not have a fair opportunity. It did receive more votes, but it's neither here nor there."

"The Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Farley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would oppose the man's Mction."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Labor and Commerce from further consideration of House Bill 3107 be adopted? Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this guestion there are 38 'ayes', 50 nos". The Motion fails. House Bill 3231, Mr. Cullerton."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bouse. I move to discharge House Fill 3231 from the Cities and Villages Committee and advance to the Order of Second Reading. The Bill deals with the quick-take provisions of the Eminent Domaine law. I have spoken with the Minority Spokesperson on the Committee and with tbe Leadership... or Minority Party, indicating to them that I have planned to amend the Pill and will not move the Bill until they have seen and approved of the Amendments. And I 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCBIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 would ask for your support on the Motice."

"The Gentleman moves to discharge the Committee on Cities and Villages from further consideration of House Bill 3231. Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye", those opposed by voting 'nc". The Chair recognizes Mr. Vinson to explain his vote."

"Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the Gentleman's Motion. The Gentleman has indicated that the Fill will nct be moved unless an agreed Amendment can be worked out among all of the parties, and I would urge that the General Assembly do discharge the Committee in this instance so that we can attempt to resclve a particularly difficult problem. It may, in fact, not be possible tc resclve the problem; and, if it's not, I'm certain that the Gentleman, having given his word, will not move the Bill. I would urge an aye vote on the Motion."

"Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 66 ayes', 28 'nos'. The Motion to discharge the Committee on Cities and Villages frco further consideration of House Bill 3231 is adopted. House Bill 3237, Mr. Vinson. Mr. Vinson."

"I... I don't wish to call the Motion, Mr. Speaker."

"Thank you. Senate Eill 171, Mr. O'Connell."

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. Senate Bill 171 has been a Senate Bill that passed the Senate, did not receive the necessary votes in the House last Session. It fell short by fcur or five votes. The Bill deals with the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Chicago in addressing the inclusion of sludge as a proper subject matter for situs hearings, which all other waste facilities are subject to. I would ask that the matter be discharged from Counties and Townships and placed on the 34  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCEIFTION CEBATE Calendar for Second Reading."

"Is there any discussion? May 4, 1984 Mr. Clerk, can we clear the Roll Call? The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Counties and Townships from further consideration of Senate Bill 171 be adopted?'. All those in favor signify by voting 'aye', all those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. O'Connell, to explain his vote."

"Well, I see a trend developing up there; but, in explanation of my vote, this... this matter is of great importance to southwest Cook County and all of Cook County. There was much misconceptions when the Bill was addressed last year. Many of you voted, I felt, for the wrong reasons. This is simply giving us an opportunity to straighten out the matter and give it a full and honest debate."

"Have all voted who wish? Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 26 'ayes', 67 'noes'. The Motion fails. On the Supplemental Calendar #1 there appears House Bill 435, Mr. Klemm. Mr. Klemm."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 435, in all honesty, received a very fair hearing. The Committee was very generous in hearing the Bill, not only once, but actually twice, since it went into Interim Study. But it's a Bill that I've spent three... almost... a little over three years in trying to address, and the Amendment changes the Bill and really becomes the Bill. And basically what the Amendment and Bill says is that if a person, regardless of who they are, is to intentionally and knowingly physically abuse a mentally ill or a developmentally disabled person and is found guilty, that they would be guilty of a Class 3 felony. Now, a Class 3 felony is, of course, a serious crime, and it's serious because there's a number of 35  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 individuals who, if they physically harm an individual, would be classified a Class 3, such as if you strike a supervisor of a department, a park district worker, a librarian, a school teacher, a police officer, a correction institutional... institution employee, a number of those types of peo... even if you're over 60 years old and somebody attacks you, such as that or causes you physically harm. It would be a serious crime, and it would be a Class 3 felony. I feel that a mentally ill person, a developmentally disabled person, who was intentionally abused that way, should at least have the same penalties that we offer and prescribe to those people that are at least stronger and able to defend themselves. There is no opposition to the Bill now. I have some questions that I can resolve in Second Reading. I'd like to continue the work on it. I did receive a fair hearing. I think it's an conceptual disagreement with some of the legal minds of the Committee. I would at least ask that I get it out and continue the work that I've been doing on this Bill. Thank you."

"The Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, Mr. Jaffe."

"Mr. Speaker and Members of the Ecuse, I think the Gentleman indicated that he did get a fair hearing not only once, but we put it into Subcommittee. We heard it on numerous occasions. We tried to accommodate him as much as we possibly could. The Committee has some very serious reservations about this Bill. As an example, if you... if a nurse would pinch a patient, that nurse could very well be guilty of a Class 3 felony and be sentenced to the penitentiaries for a number of years. The Committee contemplated this Bill very heavily and came to the conclusion that we should not put it cut, and I would urge 36  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 4, 1984 this floor to vote against this particular Motion."

"Mr. Johnson."

"Again, as a few minutes ago, as the Minority Spokesman on the Judiciary Committee, and again in deference to Representative Klemm who, I know, believes strongly and presented himself very well before the Committee, as I think we've done on nearly everything else, this Bill was thoroughly considered, thoroughly debated and, I think, got more than a fair hearing. And if cur Committee or the Committee process is going to have any kind of viability at all, this Bill is a classic example of one that simply, for a variety of reasons, didn't meet anywhere near the objections that people raised. I think, for those reasons and for those who believe that a deliberative Committee system ought to work, that we ought to vote 'no' or *present on this Motion."

"Representative Karpiel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just rise in support of this Motion to discharge House Eill 435 from Committee. I somewhat feel to blame that this Fill failed. Ferhaps that's not correct, but I had a Fill in that Committee immediately before this Bill which would have put township officials under the same statute of it being aggravated battery and assault to threaten public officials, bus drivers, park district employees, teachers, all kinds of people. And I vas going to include township cfficials under that statute. Well, that Bill was not only defeated in Committee, it was perhaps bcoed and laughed out of Committee. And I think maybe the Members of the Judiciary Committee that day were ready to abolish any kind of statute that would make it a crime to, you know, threaten or hurt anyone; and, since Representative Klemm's Eill came up right after that, perhaps that had something to do with 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCBIFTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day its being defeated. And I... I'd urge an this Motion." May 4, 1984 aye vote on

"Representative Klemn."

"Just to close, MT. Speaker. I really had sufficient votes when I went into the Committee. Unfortunately, because of the last week, a number of Members had to leave. I didn't call my witnesses in deference to the Committee, because I thought I had enough votes. I would like at least a consideration to continue with this Fill. The pinching of the nurse is going to be amended out, things like that, and I know it will be a reasonable Eill. I ask for your support."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Judiciary from further consideration of House Bill 435 be adopted?" Those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed by voting "no". Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? the record. "nos". Gn this The Motion fails. 47 question there are 'ayes', 48 House Bill 1007, Representative Younge." Younge: I "Mr. Speaker, I move to discharge the Revenue Committee and advance to the Order of Second Reading House Bill 1007. This Bill, the subject matter is a municipal earnings tax. have... The Bill would permit, ty referendum, a municipality... majority of its citizens to vote whether or not they want to put a... local income tax on. I have been able to resolve the objections raised by two Members of the Committee. Committee. I have talked with the Chairman of the He does not have any chjections. I have There is no objection, talked with the Minority Spokesman. and I move for the discharge of the Committee."

"The Chairman cf the Committee on Revenue to speak on this Fill, Mr. Pierce." 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984

"Mr. Speaker, the Lady from St. Clair did have cne bearing on the Bill where it failed 'do pass', and she requested a second hearing, which I felt she kas entitled to. We were supposed to meet this morning at 9:00 and that was distributed to all the Members, and she said she'd be here this morning at 9:00. Unfortunately for her, the Committee wound up its Bill business about 5:30 last night. That was our second session, and at 5:30 last night there were no other Sponsors around so we... so the Committee adjourned, leaving her high and dry this morning when she came around at 9:00 looking for a second hearing on her Bill. And out of courtesy to her and the fact that she did come around at 9:00 this morning and we had adjourned, I would not oppose this Motion to discharge. I'm not saying I' going to support the Bill, but I would support the Motion to discharge."

"Representative Hastert."

"Just to reiterate what the Spokesman... or the Chairman of the Committee said. Representative Younge did have a hearing on this Bill. She was entitled to a second hearing. She evidently understood that there was going to be a meeting this morning which... We adjourned yesterday. So, I just want to let the Members know that this was a misunderstanding, but she did have a hearing on this Bill already."

"Those in favor of the Motion will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'no'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Younge, to explain her vote."

"Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is an urgent cry for help from a municipality that has lost one-half of its tax base. This Bill would nct cost the 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 state any money. It would impose a lccal income tax on a group of citizens if they vote it by a majority vote to SO tax themselves for an income tax. It would apply only to areas in counties of less than a million population. This Bill would provide funds and income for small municipalities that are having tremendous trouble and difficulty in reference tc the financing of municipal services. It is needed by communities who do not have... which do not have adequate fire protection, police protection and what have you. A grcuf cf citizens would have to vote to impose the tax by a majority vote, and I ask you for your support on this very, very urgent matter of income to municipalities that need additional income to provide the municipal services."

"Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Gn this question there are 52 ayes, 44 'nos'. The Motion fails. House Bill 2347, Mr. Hicks. Mr. Bicks."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bouse, I would move to discharge from Executive Committee House Bill 2347 and advance to the Order of Second Reading. The Bill in Committee... It takes nine vctes to get it cut cf Executive Committee. The Bill had eight votes for it, and no votes opposing it and no votes 'present', and I would ask for a favorable vote on it."

"Gentleman moves to discharge the Committee on Executive from further consideration of House Bill 2347. Mr. Hicks has moved to discharge the Committee on Executive from further consideration of House Eill 2347. Does the Chairman of the Committee wish to address this Motion? Mr. Terzich. Mr. Terzich. This is a Motion to discharge the Committee on Executive. Would you wish to shower us with your words of wisdom?" 40  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984

"Oh. Yes, Mr. Speaker, Representative Bicks received a hearing in our Committee, and I believe the vote on this Bill was eight votes to nothing and unfortunately that another Member or so wasn't in attendance. And that, you know, someone had an 8 to nothing vote in a Committee certainly should have SOME consideration on his Bill on discharge."

"Representative Kar..."

"I voted for it, by the way, Mr. Speaker."

"The question is, Shall the Notion to discharge the Committee.... For what purpose does Representative Karpiel seek recognition?"

"I reluctantly must rise in opposition to this. This is another exposition on civic center Fill. And although it says in your analysis that all it does is change the... change the name, in changing the name, it also changes the level of funding that it can receive frco 1.5 million tc 3.5 million dollars. Now I realize that we have formed a great many civic centers and expositicE centers in this state. Especially this year in cur Committee, we have formed some new ones. But I think that the Assembly should realize that right Dow the Department of CommercE and Community Affairs estimates that... estimates that it has four to five million dollars to fund these in 19... in '85. And yet there are civic centers, without the new ones that are being formed and without this cne being enlarged, there's enough cut there that are reguesting over 60 million dollars in funds. So whether or not, you know, you want to say you've formed one of these things or not, there simply isn't the funding available, and I'č urge a no vote. It did get... It did get a good hearing in Committee. It was not one of those Bills that we just shuffled through at the last few minutes when we were all 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 in a hurry and were missing a lot of Kembers. There were a lot of Members there, and it did receive a good hearing. And I don't think that this Bill has got any bad treatment and should be moved out of Committee."

"Question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Executive from further consideration of Bouse Bill 2347 be adopted?* Those in favor signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting no. Bave all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. Cn this question there are 68 'ayes', 31 'nos'. The Nation is adopted. House Bill 2597, Mr. Terzich. Mr. Terzich."

"No... Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, on House Bill 2597, due to some mix-up, we had an agreement between both sides of the aisle on some Bills on an agreed list of which 2598 was listed and subsequently taken off and 2597 was supposed to be included. However, it was omitted as an oversight, and it's Bepresentative Capparelli's Bill. And it's a good piece of legislation. I would move that we discharge Committee. Yes, it is alright with both sides of the aisle on this, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, shall I take the same holl Call? Is that what you want?"

"Mr. Terzich, we are trying to clear the machine from the previous Roll Call. Are we ready, Mr. Clerk? Mr. Terzich has moved to discharge the Committee cn Executive from further consideration of House Eill 2597. Is there any discussion? Representative Karpiel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to say so that my side of the aisle will understand, this is really just sort of a technical thing. I think it was mixed up. The Clerk... or the Clerk of the Committee put the wrong Bill on the agreed Bill list and whatever, something happened, 42  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 4, 1984 but this Fill is fine."

"The guestion is, Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Executive from further consideration of House Bill 2597 be adopted? All these in favor signify by voting 'aye", all thcse opposed by voting 'nc'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 89 'ayes', 11 'nos'. The Potion is adopted. House Bill 2851, Representative Younge. The Lady does not wish to call her Motion. House Bill 3074, Mr. Hicks. Mr. Hicks."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I'd move to discharge House Bill 3074 ficm the Environment Committee due to a mix-up with the Chairman of the Committee and the Bill even being reported for a couple of days on the computer as having passed out. There was a mix-up on it some way or another, and I would move and ask for your favorable vote."

"The Gentleman moves to discharge the Committee on Energy and Environment from further consideration cf House Bill 3074. On that question, the Chair recognizes the Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Van Cuyne."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I support the Representative's Motion to discharge this Bill. In fact, I was supposed to handle it for him in Committee, and I completely forgot about it. So, I do support bis Motion to discharge."

"Representative Koehler."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. I would oppose this discharge Motion, because the Department of Commerce and Community Affairs and Energy... the Departments of Energy and Natural Rescurces already have programs that are very similar to the program that is 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 being proposed in this piece of legislation, and I would oppose this Motion."

"Representative Daniels."

"Mr... Mr. Speaker, would the cvant yield to a question?"

"The Sponsor indicates he will yield. Excuse me, Mr. Daniels. To whom did you wish to address your question?"

"The person that is making the Kotion."

"Yes, the Sponsor indicates that he will yield."

"Were you in Committee on the day this Bill was up?"

"No, Sir. I was not."

"You were replaced in Committee on that day?"

"Yes. The Speaker was... the Chairman of the Committee was to handle the Pill that day."

"You were replaced on that day?"

"That's correct, Sir."

"You were in the Capitol, though. Is that right?"

"On the particular day it was supposed to be called, yes, Sir, I was."

"And you... this is the day that the community right to know legislation came up?"

"No. Sir, I was not available at the time the Committee, nor was I available the whole rest of the day that day. I was ill that day and was not available."

"I see. Well, Mr. Speaker, talking to the Motion. Those of us on this side of the aisle were fascinated by the movement on that Committee of Members on the other side of the aisle and how, when they seemed to not want to vote on a piece of legislation, they disappeared. And I think the reason that this Bill wasn't heard is the tyrant that the Chairman of that Committee went intc on the particular day in question. We... In case somebody would like to have 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 their own ears listen to the Committee, we'd te happy to have a taping Session available for you. We could play the tape over the House microphone if you'd like to have it later on, but you might want to hear abcut the happenings during this Committee. It's no wonder that the Chairman forgot to call this Bill. He was SC kusy kerating the public in general and the Minority Spokesman on this Committee that he couldn't remember what he was supposed to do. Well, Mr. Speaker, we're delighted to be able to look at legislation like this; and, if the Chairman of the Committee can't remember his responsibility, his Bills, we'll have to take it up in another matter, I guess. Sc, we're going to oppose his actions on it. Mr. Van Duyne, I'd love to have you answer the questions that I just brought up, and I hope you'll let... chance, Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. Van Duyne."

"Point of order, MI. Speaker. The Gentleman wasn't even addressing the Motion."

"Your point is well taken, Mr. Van Duyne. The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Energy and Environment from further consideration of House Bill 3074 be adopted?" Those in favor signify by voting 'aye, those opposed by voting 'nc. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? The Clerk shall take the record. For what Furpose does Bepresentative Topinka seek recognition?"

"I would like to verify that Bcll Call, please, or any ather Bills that come out of that particular Committee today, please."

"There is a request for a verification. MI. Clerk, at the request of Representative Hicks, poll the absentees." 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984

"Poll of the Absentees. Ferrios. Brookins. Christensen. Donico. Giorgi. Boffman. Huff. Keane. Oblinger. Taylor. Wait. Winchester. Woodyard. Younge and Zwick. Nc further."

"Mr. Clerk, proceed to read the Affirmative Roll Call."

"Poll of the affirmative. Alexander. Barnes. Bowman. Braun. Breslin. Erunner. Erunsvold. Bullock. Capparelli. Cullerton. Curran. Currie. DeJaegher. DiPrima. Doyle. John Dunn. Farley. Flion. Giglio. Hannig. Hicks. Homer. Jaffe. Krska. Kulas. Laurino. LeFlore. leverenz. Levin. Markette. Marzuki. Matijevich. Mautino. McGann. McPike. Mulcahey. Nash. O'Connell. Panayotovich. Pangle. Pierce. Preston. Bea. Bhem. Bice. Richmond. Ronan. Saltsman. Satterthwaite. Shaw. Slape. Steczo. Stuffle. Terzich. Turner. Van Duyne. Vitek. White. Wolf. Yourell and Mr. Speaker."

"For what purpose does Representative Galph Dunn seek recognition?" Dunn, R.: "Mr. Speaker, change me to 'aye', please."

"Record Mr. Dunn as 'aye'. For what purpose does Representative Oblinger seek recognition? Record Representative Oblinger as 'aye'. Representative Greiman. Mr. Greiman."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, I hit the wrong button, and would you change me to aye', please?"

"Record Mr. Greiman as 'aye'. Representative Younge."

"Mr. Speaker, record me as 'aye', please."

"Record Representative Younge as 'aye'. Representative Eraun."

"Mr. Speaker, leave to be verified."

"Representative Topinka, would you verify 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day Representative Eraun? Yes, sure. Representative Braun. Ckay... Representative Topinka." May 4, 1984 So we have verified

Let's turn on Topinka: "She's already turned on. Thank ycu. Sorry. It was a knee jerk reaction. I couldn't resist."

"Ckay. Very good. Nice."

"A little levity sometimes makes some of this more bearable."

"Now, did you have any challenges, Representative Topinka?"

"As I said, a little levity sometimes makes some of this more bearable. Anyway, first off I'd like to start with Representative Hicks to see if he is in here today for sure."

"The Gentleman is in the center aisle."

"So, he's feeling better today. That's good. Okay."

"Yes."

"And then, Representative Slape."

"Mr. Slape is in his chair."

"I'm glad he's feeling better today, too. That's good, because I get worried about the epidemic that seems to be raging through the Capitol. Anyway, let's go with Representative Breslin."

"Representative Breslin? Representative Breslin. Remove Representative Breslin from the Roll Call."

"Representative Barnes."

"Representative Barnes is in the chamber."

"Representative Bullock."

"Mr. Bullock. Is Mr. Eullock recorded? Remove Mr..."

"Gentleman's recorded as voting "aye"."

"Remove Mr. Bullock." 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMBLY BOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day

"Representative Currie." May 4, 1984

"Representative Currie is in her chair. And for what purpose does Mr. O'Connell seek recognition?"

"Mr. Speaker, could I have leave to be verified?"

"I'll give leave to be verified on Representative O'Connell."

"Leave is... leave is granted."

"Alright. Bep... You said Representative Currie is in her chair?"

"Yes."

"Okay. Representative Farley."

"Mr. Farley. Is Mr. Farley in the chamber? Bow is the Gentleman recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr... Mr. Parley is in the chamber."

"He's back. Okay. Representative Gicrgi."

"Could you repeat that name?"

"Representative Giorgi."

"Mr. Giorgi is recorded as not voting."

"Okay, thank you. Bepresentative Euff."

"How is Mr. Buff recorded?"

"Gentleman is not recorded as voting."

"Representative Keane."

"How is Mr. Keane recorded?"

"Gentleman's not recorded as voting."

"Bepresentative Laurino."

"Could we have some order, please? Bepresentative Laurino is... Representative Laurinc. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? Bси is Mr. Laurino recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Berove Mr. Lauring from the Boll Call."

"Okay. Representative Mautino." 48  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIFTION DEBATE May 4, 1984

"Mr. Mautino. Is Mr. Mautino in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. Mautino."

"Let's finish. Representative Bhem."

"Mr. Bhem. Is Mr. Rhem in the chamber? How is the Gentleman recorded?"

"Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. Rhem."

"Representative Richmond."

"Mr. Clerk, Mr. Mautino has returned to the chamber..."

"Okay."

"... and Representative Ereslin has returned to the chamber. For what purpose does Mr. Eichmond seek recognition? The Gentleman is in the chamber."

"Okay. Representative Ronan."

"Mr. Bonan. How is the Gentleman recorded?"

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. Ronan."

"Representative Panayotovich."

"Mr. Fanayotovich is in his chair."

"Okay. Representative Shaw."

"Mr. Shaw. Is the Gentleman in the chamber? How is Mr. Shaw recorded?"

"The Gentleman's recorded as voting 'aye'."

"Remove Mr. Shaw."

"Thank you. Representative Taylor."

"How is Mr. Taylor recorded? How is Mr..."

"Gentleman's not recorded as voting."

"Okay. And Representative Turner."

"Could you repeat that name?"

"Representative Turner." 49  114th Legislative Day STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 4, 1984

"Turner. Mr. Turner is in the chamber."

"Okay. How did we do? That will be all."

"That's all? Okay. There are 60 'ayes' and 40 'nos', and the Motion is adopted. It's a violation of the rules. For what purpose does Representative Braun seek recognition, to violate the rules?"

"Probably, Sir. Mr. Speaker, for purposes of an announcement. The students from Our Lady Gate of Heaven School in Chicago located at 2300 East on 99th Street are here and are visiting with us in the gallery, and I'd like to say hello to them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"House Bill 3253, Mr. White."

"Mr. Speaker."

"Mr. White."

"Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I move to discharge the Judiciary Committee and advance to the Order of Second Reading House Bill 3252 (sic 3253). Through an error in posting, the Bill was not heard on two occasions, and it's a simple Bill. All it does is that it deals with the area of panic peddling in the area of Chicago."

"The Chair recognizes Mr. Johnson."

"Before I address the Motion, what error in posting was there, Representative White?"

"Pardon me?"

"What error in posting was there?"

"It should have been put on... placed on the Calendar in the Committee on two separate occasions; and, as it turned out, the Bill was not posted."

"What do you mean, it should have been? I don't understand that. Representative Jaffe and I have acceded to every request by every Member of this chamber to waive posting requirements in this whole Spring Session. Nobody ever came to me on this Bill at any time and asked me to 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 waive anything. Now, tell me what the error was before I can address your Motion."

"Again, the Bill was given to the... the Committee, the Judiciary Committee; and, as it turned cut, it vas never posted."

"Well, whose responsibility was it fcr posting?"

"The staff in the Committee."

"Well, I'd be interested to see Befresentative Jaffe's response to that. He's run that Committee, as the Clerk has, with a great deal of concern for the rights of every Member in here. And I really question... It's the only Bill out of 500 that wasn't posted. Nchody ever came to me and asked me to waive anything. You could have done that and have it heard. I guess I'll address the Kotion. You know, we... Sepresentative Churchill, in the last four days, probably spent as much time in the Judiciary Committee as a good many Members of the Committee did. Бе was there for six or seven hours on really a fairly minor Bill, waited his turn. We've met four times this week for innumerable hours. We eventually got to Representative Churchill, as we got to other Members, and gave him, as we gave other people, a fair hearing. We've... Bepresentative Jaffe and I have gone cut of our way to be fair to every Member of this House. Anybody who has requested this whole term for us to waive posting requirements, we've done it. And I would... I would say and I've been in there, and I don't think I've missed two minutes of Judiciary bearings in the four times we've met this week. And unless I'm wrong, Representative White, there wasn't a single time in four days this week when you were there to have your Bill heard. Bepresentative Braun is a hyphenated Sponsor of the Bill, and she vas there cost of the time. And I would presume if this was such a matter of great moment, either 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF BEPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 you or her could have done as the other tens of Sponsors who appeared before that Committee would have done, and that is to wait your turn and have the Bill heard on its merits. I really think that if we're going tc bave this Committee system work at all, and we have a situation where we have Sponsors all over here give courtesies to each other and the Committees give courtesies to them to have their Bill heard, and now all of a sudden at the end out of all 500 of these Bills, somebody... where the Sponsor never even appeared before the Committee to give our Committee the courtesy of having a hearing and wants to discharge the Committee is just an absolutely an affront not only to the Members of the Committee and Chairman Jaffe and his staff, but every Member of this House. I don't understand any merit at all for this Motion. I don't know where the mistake was made, but I don't believe that it was a mistake. And I believe that if ycu wanted to have your Bill heard so bad, you should have appeared before the Committee and have it heard like everybody else did."

"Mr. Jaffe."

"Yes, Mr. Speaker. How can I improve on what Representative Johnson has said? Let me say that I really feel very badly about this particular Bill. I don't believe that there was any request made of the Committee to post this particular Bill; and, as you know, at all times Representative Johnson and I have had an agreement whereby we have waived the posting requirements for every Member of this House. That being the case, I was never approached to have the posting requirements waived on his particular Bill. Representative Johnson was never approached to have the posting requirements waived. And because I believe in the integrity of the Committee system, I would support Representative Johnson and urge a 'no' vote on this Bill, 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CЕВАТЕ 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 which I probably would have voted for had it come to our Committee."

"Mr. Matijevich."

"I take no position on the Eill, kut Ι... I do, in support of what Representative White is talking about. The rule says that the Sponsor, if he reguests a hearing, bas to have one within 45 days; but, from the way We've been operating in the last couple Sessions, or two or three, Chairmen of Committees have been posting all Bills and taking it for granted that a Sponsor dces want a bearing. And from what I'm hearing from Representative White, the Bill was never posted, and I hope we're not, in the future, again having the old policy where every Member has to go to a Chairman and say, 'I want sy Bill posted', because I like the policy that eventually all Bills assigned to Committee are posted. Because I think that that's a given that a that a Sponsor dces want a Bill posted and heard."

"Mr. White, to close."

"Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, as I said earlier, two attempts were made to have this Bill heard in Committee, and at nc time did I get notification that the Bill was to be heard. It did not appear on the Calendar. And based on what I've said, and I stand by it, I ask for your favorable consideration."

"The question is, 'Shall the Motion to discharge the Committee on Judiciary from further consideration of House Bill 3253 be adopted? Those in favor will signify by voting 'aye', those opposed by voting 'nc'. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Eave all voted wha wish? The Clerk shall take the record. On this question there are 69 ayes", 26 ncs, and the Motion is adopted. Mr. Clerk, Mr. Clerk, do we have any Agreed Resclutions? read the Adjournment Resolution." 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OP BEFRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION ΓΕΒΑΤΕ 114th Legislative Day

"Senate Joint Resclution 109. May 4, 1984 Resolved by the Senate of the 83rd General Assembly of the State of Illinois, the House of Representatives concurring herein, that when the Senate adjourns on Thursday, May 3, 1984, it stands adjourned until Tuesday, May 8, 1984 at 1:00 P-- And when the House of Representatives adjourns on Friday, May 4, 1984, it stands adjourned until Tuesday, May 8, 1984 at 12:00 noon."

"The Gentleman seek Adjournment Resolution." Besolution? Mr. recognition on the McFike, on the Adjournment

"Thank you, dr. Speaker. I move for the adoption of the Adjournment Resolution."

"Those in favor say 'aye, those opposed say 'no'. The Adjournment Resolution is adopted, but the Chair would like to advise the Members Bowman: Speaker let's not leave that on this Tuesday, although the Adjcurnment Resolution provides that we shall convene at 12:00, that we shall convene at 12:30. So that on Tuesday, we will convene at 12:30. Alright. For what purpose daes Mr. Bowman seek recognition?" "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to remind the Members of the Appropriation Committee, that the Appropriation Committee will meet at 8:00 am. Tuesday morning prior to the House convening. We still have some work ahead of us, and we will be convening at 8:00 a..."

"For what purpose does MI. Levin seek recognition? Mr. Levin."

"Hello? Yeah, Mr. Speaker, I would ask leave to put the following Bills in Interim Study."

"Mr. Levin, let us do that next week some time."

"Se can do that later?"

"Yes." 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENEBAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE May 4, 1984 114th Legislative Day

"Okay, thank you."

"Thank you. I'm sorry, Mr. Levin. The Clerk corrects me that if you wish to move your Bills to Interim Study, you'd better do it now. Mr. Levin."

"Yes, I've provided a list to the Clerk. I'd like to put in Interim Study House Pills 4, 5, 723, 1728, 1731, 1732, 1743, 2405, 2487, 2490 and 2993."

"Br. Clerk, would you read the cther Motions that you have concerning Interia Study?"

"Also, a Motion by Dwight Friedrich to discharge... CI to put House Eill 2408 in Interis Study."

"Does that complete all cf the requests for Interim Study? You've all heard those reguests. Here's another request."

"Also, Bouse Eill 1756."

Speaker Madiganz "Ar. Johnson, do you seek recognition question of Interim Study?" מס the

"Yeah. On a point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker. I want to see the staff find this cut, kut I've just been informed by our staff that House Fill 3253 was posted for Wednesday, and it was contained in each one of the posting notices that went to the Members cf the House, or the Members of the Committee, that it was in our packet and that the Bill was there. The Fill was posted for Wednesday, contrary to the representations of the maker of the Motion. That's what our staff has infcrmed me just now. I'd like to have an answer on that, and I think every Member of this House ought to know what they voted CD; because, I think, if that's the case, I want to make a Motion to reconsider."

"Mr. Johnson, in all fairness, you know that many people have left the chamber because we have begun to consider matters that are normally considered at the end of 55  STATE OF ILLINCIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 the day. It's no one's fault, but I think it's just a little unfair to raise that question of the Action at this time. Mr. Johnson."

"I have our Calendar here, and the Fill appears OD Wednesday's Calendar, Judiciary Committee, 2:00, House Bill 3253." Speaker Madigan: ΠΗΣ. Johnson, this question was fairly well debated during the consideration of the Motion. Everyone was aware that there Were allegations on both sides concerning whether or not there had teen profer posting. So, that was a subject of the debate."

"Okay. I'm not going to make the Motion to reconsider."

"Fine."

"Eut I really think, when we have representations made of the kind that were made, that every Member just for their future reference ought to be able to determine on their own whether, in fact, thcse representations are accurate. I'm not saying they weren't, but I do have Wednesday's Calendar and the Bill dces appear among those listed and posted for Judiciary at 2:00 on Wednesday, May 2, 1984."

"Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Now, we would like to return to the Order of requests for Interis Study. Clerk, read the request that you have in your band."

"One further request on cuse Fill 2778..."

"Mr. Mautino? Proceed, Mr. Clerk."

"... by Representative Wait."

"Okay. Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, dr. Speaker. I, as well, would like to make the same request for House Bill 3114."

"Are there any further requests for Bills to be put on the Order of Interim Study. There being no further, you've all heard the requests that Fills be placed on the 56  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day Order of Interia Study. Is there leave? Agreed Resolutions."

May 4, 1984 Leave is granted. "House Resolution 891, McGann; 892, Tuerk and Saltsman; 893, LeFlore; and 895, Ercokins."

"Mr. Matijevich."

"House Resolution 891, McGann, congratulates Arthur Velasques, the Man of the Year; Bouse Resclution 892, Tuerk - Saltsman, congratulates the Richwoods High School Girls Basketball Tean; House Besolution 893, LeFlore, congratulates Community Mental Health Ecard of Chicago; and House Resolution 895, Brookins, congratulates Audrey Johnson. I move the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions."

"Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Death Resolution."

"House Resolution 894, Saltsman - et al, with respect to the memory of Josephine C'Cornell."

"Mr. Matijevich."

"Mr. Speaker, I'm going to move the adoption of this Resolution, but I believe Representative Saltsman wanted to say a few words on its behalf. Bep..."

"Mr. Saltsman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Josephine O'Connell is the mother of William O'Connell who is otherwise known as Ziggy, the political writer for the Feoria Journal Star, and I make a Motion that this Resolution be adopted by all Members of the General Assembly... by adding all Members to this Motion."

"Mr. Saltsman, along with Mr. Matijevich, moves for the adoption of the Death Resolution. Those in favor say 'aye', those opposed say 'no'. The ayes have it. The Resolution is adopted. And for purposes of the record, let the record show that when I declared that leave was 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMPIY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 granted to put certain Bills on the Order of Interim Study, that... that that was leave for the use of the Attendance Roll Call for that purpose. Mr. Mulcabey."

"Mr. Speaker, I would ask leave of the House to table House Bill 2371 of which I am the Chief Sponsor."

"Is there leave? Leave is granted. Is there anything further to come before the Body? Fine. Mr. McFike, for the Adjournment Besclution, and the Clerk would like perfunctory time until all Committee Reports are read."

"Allowing the Clerk perfunctory time for purposes of Committee Reports, I move the House stands adjourned until Tuesday at the hour of 12:30."

"You've all heard the Motion. Those in favor say aye", those opposed say "no". We stand adjourned until 12:30 on Tuesday."

"Committee Reports. Committee Reports. Representative Dunn, John Dunn, Chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Motor Vehicles, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: Do pass House Bill 2997 and 2933;'do pass as amended House Bill 3151 and 3117. Representative Brummer, Chairman of the Committee on Public Utilities, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: Do pass as amended House Bill 3129; *Interim Study Calendar House Bill 2955. Representative Wolf, Chairuan of the Committee on Personnel and Fensions, to which the following Bills were referred, action taken May 4, 1984, reported the sare back with the following reccomendations: Do pass House Bills 2443, 2580, 2715 and 2835; do pass Short Debate Calendar" House Fill 2540; Interim Study 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMELY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION CEBATE 114th Legislative Day May 4, 1984 Calendar House Bills 2564, 3250, 3251 and 3258. Representative Laurino, Chairman cf the Committee on Insurance, to which the following Eills were referred, action taken May 1, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: "Do pass Ecuse Bill 1535; "do pass as amended House Bill 2321; "dc pass Short Debate' House Bills 2883 and 3066; "do pass as amended Short Debate House Bill 3067; "do pass Consent Calendar House Bills 2499 and 2896; "do pass as amended Consent Calendar' House Bill 2500; and "Interim Study Calendar House Bills 245, 1088, 2705, 3259 and 2500. The Ecuse stands at ease, waiting for further Committee Reports. The House will be back in Session. Committee Reports. Representative Jaffe, Chairman of the Committee on Judiciary, to which the following Bills and Resolutions were referred, action taken May 4, 1984, reported the same back with the following recommendations: "Do pass House Pill 2699, 2613, 3202 and 2883; "do pass as amended House Bills 3204, 3102, 2409, 809, 3230 and 2323; "Interim Study Calendar House Bill 2349. No further business, the Rouse now stands adjourned." 59  09/10/84 09:17 STATE OF ILLINOIS 83RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX PAGE 1 MAY 04, 1984 HB-0288 MOTION PAGE 8 HB-0288 MOTION PAGE 16 HB-0288 OUT OF RECORD PAGE 10 HB-0435 MOTION PAGE 35 HB-1007 MOTION PAGE 38 HB-1935 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-2347 MOTION PAGE 40 HB-2354 MOTION PAGE 11 HB-2371 TABLED PAGE 58 HB-2445 MOTION PAGE 11 HB-2446 MOTION PAGE 13 HB-2475 THIRD READING PAGE 6 HB-2524 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2525 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2569 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2575 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2577 MOTION PAGE 14 HB-2584 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2590 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2597 MOTION PAGE 42 HB-2607 MOTION PAGE 18 HB-2608 MOTION PAGE 24 HB-2617 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2619 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2752 THIRD READING PAGE 7 HB-2829 MOTION PAGE 26 HB-2929 MOTION PAGE 28 HB-3074 MOTION PAGE 43 HB-3105 MOTION PAGE 32 HB-3107 MOTION PAGE 32 HB-3231 MOTION PAGE 33 HB-3253 MOTION PAGE 50 SB-0171 MOTION PAGE 34 SJR-0109 ADOPTED PAGE 54 SUBJECT MATTER HOUSE TO ORDER - SPEAKER NADIGAN PAGE 1 PRAYER - RABBI ISRAEL ZOERMAN PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE PAGE 1 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 2 AGREED RESOLUTIONS PAGE 57 DEATH RESOLUTION PAGE 57 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 58 PERFUNCTORY SESSION PAGE 58 COMMITTEE REPORTS PAGE 58 PERFUNCTORY SESSION - ADJOURNMENT PAGE 59