Illinois House Floor Debate — April 9, 2013

"The House should come to order. All Members should be in their seats. We shall be led in prayer today by Reverend John Holst who's with the Zion United Church in Marion, Illinois. Pastor Holst is the guest of Representative Bradley. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and rise for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance."

"We shall be led in the Pledge of Allegiance today by Representative Cabello."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record reflect that Representatives Flowers, Gordon-Booth and Mell are excused."

"Representative Bost."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 'present', a quorum is established. Representative Drury, for what reason do you rise?"

"Point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Please state your point, Sir."

"I'd like everybody to welcome Sarah and David Sarowitz, they’re our two Pages here today. If Sarah and David could stand up, they're two 10-year-old fourth graders from Ravinia School in Highland Park, which is where I grew up. I hope everybody will take advantage of their services today and we also have… we have their parents who have traveled down and been so kind to bring them here, Steve and Jessica Sarowitz. They’re sitting up in the gallery." 09800036.doc 3  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Welcome to your Capitol. Mr. Clerk."

"Representative Bost."

"Republicans will immediately caucus in Room 114 and the House will be at ease until 11:45. The House shall come to order. Mr. Clerk."

"Members, we're going to begin with Bills on Third Reading. The first Bill is House Bill 2311, Representative Beiser. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Beiser."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2311 has to do with cleaning up the video poker Bill that we passed in the previous. It comes as a result in my area and other areas of the state where certain clubs, namely the Knights of Columbus, have been denied because they're considered a social club and this would simply add them."

"Gentleman’s moved for the passage of House Bill 2311. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Members, please record yourselves. Representative Farnham, Feigenholtz, Nekritz. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 64 voting 'yes', 46 voting 'no', and 1 voting 'present', House Bill 2311, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3370, Representative Kelly Burke. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Burke." Burke, K.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3370 amends the Water Rec… Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Act to allow them to do two things. It allows them to… to add to the… the types of claims they can use their reserve fund to pay. And it removes a cost ceiling related to repairing and replacing MWRD-owned property that it damaged by fire, flood, explosion, vandalism, or other peril, natural or manmade, that can be paid from that reserve fund. I know of 09800036.doc 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 no opposition. It's an initiative of the Water Reclamation District. And I ask to an 'aye' vote.”

"Representative Durkin."

"Sponsor yields."

"Seeing no further debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3370 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3370, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1849, Representative Bost. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Bost."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 1849 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Drury, Osmond. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1849, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 189, Representative Cloonen. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cloonen."

"Yes, 189 is a property tax Bill that will, in most cases, decrease the property taxes and in no crase… no case increase the property tax. Right now, the taxes are calculated at 3 decimal places and automatically rounded up. This will allow the bills to be calculated beyond 3 decimal places, so it’s a truer… truer amount that a person pays. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 189 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. 09800036.doc 8  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting ‘no’, 0 voting 'present', House Bill 189, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2377, Representative Conroy. Mr. Clerk. Out of the record. House Bill 2408, Representative Costello. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Currently, if a veteran owns a small business and wants to be certified as veteran-owned, he or she cannot also have their business certified as a minority. This allows for veterans to certify in two categories. This would, in effect, increase the pool of vendors for the State of Illinois and it should also, theoretically, save the state money. Thank you. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2408 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2408, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1516, Representative Brady. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Brady." 09800036.doc 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 1516 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Dunkin. Mr. Clerk, please take the Bill… take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1516, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2687, Representative Crespo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Crespo."

"Thank you, Speaker. House Bill 2687 lowers the maximum requirement for convention and tourism bureaus to 50 percent instead of 100 percent to apply for local tourism funds, which are generated by the hotel tax. This is an initiative of the Illinois Council and Conventions and 09800036.doc 10  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Tourism Bureaus, the Illinois Hotel & Lodging Association and the City of Chicago. Happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2687 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2687, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2755, Representative Brown. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Brown."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2755 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Crespo, Sente. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 88 voting 'yes', 23 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2755, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Pihos, for what reason do you rise?"

"Please state your point."

"Welcome to the Capitol. Thank you for your help. House Bill 2339, Representative Will Davis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. The purpose of House Bill 2339 is to establish consistency between the Illinois Anatomical Gift Act and the core provisions of the Uniform Anatomical Gift Act as drafted by the Uniform Law Commission as well as implement other upgrades suggested by the organ donor organizations, the Illinois Hospital Association and the Illinois State Medical Society. This is an initiative of the Secretary of State's Office. Be more than happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2339 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Lilly, Riley. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2339, 09800036.doc 12  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Leitch."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you. The record will reflect your request. House Bill 961, Representative DeLuca. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative DeLuca."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. House Bill 961, this is the Bill that would allow the immediate distribution of the income tax receipts collected to be sent directly to the local government distributive fund instead of going through the General Revenue Fund. Passed out of committee unanimously. There’s no opposition. I ask for your support."

"Representative Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I'm… I'm trying to understand the process in which this would work. Do we do this currently with any other… other local government out of another fund, or any other funds?"

"No, we do not."

"So, what would be the process? It would go directly… the Treasurer's Office or the Department of Revenue would collect the tax and we would immediately send it to a local arm of government." 09800036.doc 13  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"No. It goes into the fund which is called the local government distributive fund, which then disperses the money to counties and municipalities."

"So, we've been doing the current procedure for how many years now as it relates to the local government di… distribution fund?"

"I don’t know how many years it's been happening this way, but since… It’s been this way for a long time. I don’t have an exact number of amount of time."

"Since the ‘70s, huh?"

"I would assume so, yes."

"So, what's the negative impact of sending those dollars directly to the local government compared to sending in the General Revenue Fund?"

"There's no negative impact. This is the counties and municipalities share of the money and this will help them receive those dollars sooner. As you know that the payments are being delayed to our municipalities this will allow them to receive that money in a more timely fashion."

"So, does this have anything to do with us considering reducing the local distribution to various local governments across the state? Is this sort of tied into that discussion?"

"Can you… can you say that question again, please?"

"Is this piece of legislation tied into the local government distribution fund regarding us reducing some of those amounts based off of our fiscal issues today? Is this a response to the local government distribution fund as we 09800036.doc 14  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 consider reducing some of those dollars to some of our municipalities?"

"No, this is not in response to some of the proposals that are… that are being floated out there. I’ve… This legislation has been filed for a number of years. I filed it the last three years. So this has been on the docket for a while."

"So, again, I'm trying to understand. In my detailed analysis here, probably similar to what you share, it says, according to COGFA, the language could be construed to produce a negative effect. The language of the Bill says an amount equal to the sum of 6 percent or 10 percent of the ratio of the 3 percent individual income tax rate prior to 2011 to the 5 percent individual income tax rate after 2010. The language intended to mean that 6 percent of the taxes collected minus refunds; however, it could be understood as 10 percent of the taxes collected minus refunds. For instance, taxes collected in the fiscal year ‘12 totaled 17 billion and the refunded total was 1.4 billon. And it also goes as further to say that the legislation is meant to take 6 percent of the $17 billion or 1.4 billion 88, which would be about 931 bil… million dollars. However, the language can't be construed as meaning 6 percent of the 17 billion minus $1.488 mil… billion dollars of the total. It would be 46… $468 million. COGFA recommends clarifying the language so that the Bill states that the 6 percent is applied to the difference of the income tax collection and deposits in the income tax refund. Can you respond to this?" 09800036.doc 15  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"The… the local government’s share was 10 percent prior to the changing of the law two years ago with the income tax. That lowered… decreased the local government share from 10 percent to 6 percent. So, this is ensuring that their portion, their reduced portion, that they would be receiving it quicker and that it would be protected. The money would go directly into this fund. That's what this accomplishes."

"So, the issue is that there's a delay of how many months or is it 30 days, 90 days…”

"I'm not sure what their…"

"…half a year, 12 months?”

"I'm not sure what the most recent information is, but it was up as much as 6 months, the delay."

"I guess… I guess my real concern is given where we are fiscally today, does this help or hurt our ability to govern at the state level granted we know we have a whole bunch of not-for-profit agencies, providers of services to the state, certainly municipalities dependent on State Government. Would this help or hurt our… our functionality fiscally?"

"I don’t believe it should hurt us at all and the reason for that is because this is the local government's money. This is the money that goes to counties and municipalities and the services that most of us experience when we're at home are services that are provided by our local governments.”

“Sure.” 09800036.doc 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

“When we're talking about police protection and fire protection and snow removal and clean water and Code enforcement, all these services are provided by our local governments. This will help allow them to receive their funding in a more timely manner."

"So, in understanding of that rationale, why is there a delay of 6 months?"

"Because right now the dollars are going into the General Revenue Fund."

"Yes."

"And that’s the problem. If that’s the answer you're looking for, yes. The money is going into the General Revenue Fund and then being transferred into the Local Government Distributive Fund. This would bypass that. This would allow it to go directly into that fund, so it can go to where it’s intended to go."

"So, why has there been a problem before? I mean, didn’t you introduce this Bill, you say several times, correct?"

"Yes."

"Why… what's the Governor’s Office saying in this ro… in this vein?"

"I have not spoken with the Governor's Office specifically on this. They did not file in opposition to it. They have not come to see me that they’re objecting to it. My best guess would be they're probably not strong supporters of it."

"So, has it passed the Senate?"

"No, this is a House Bill." 09800036.doc 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"No. Has… you say you've introduced this over the years. Has it passed the Senate? I'm sure… Well, let me ask… back up."

"This is the furthest the Bill has gone, since I've… since I’ve carried it."

"And you've introduced it how many times?"

"I think this is the third time.”

"And it's gone…"

"It's never gotten out of committee."

"Why is that?"

"Its never been called in committee."

"Why is that?"

"I don’t control the Ball… the Bills that are called in committee."

"Is that right? You're the Chief Sponsor. I thought that… You're a… you’re a former mayor, right?"

"Yes, I am."

"You consider yourself a responsible then when you were?"

"Absolutely."

"All right. So, all right."

"And Representative Dunkin, this is not my first Bill."

"I'm just curious. I think this is a very interesting dynamic because they're also providers in the state that I would love to have the money that we collect and bounce…”

“Right.”

“…outside of the General Revenue Fund directly into paying our providers who provide mental health, who provide access to health care to some of our most vulnerable… 09800036.doc 18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 populations here in the state. So, this would be very unique for the State of Illinois, correct?"

"It would be in a sense how it impacts our local governments, yes."

"So, can we do this for the lottery? You know the lottery supposed to go directly to education. Can we have those dollars of the lottery bounce, instead of going to the General Revenue Fund, go straight to the schools in some of these municipalities and distributed based off of the formula that they have. Would you support that measure?"

"If there was a Bill that directed the lottery money to go directly to the Common School Fund, yes, I would."

"Can I add that on as an Amendment here?"

"I'll find another Bill for you to do that."

"That’s a great idea, I like that. So, last question. Do you anticipate this Bill passing the Senate chamber and/or the Governor signing this piece of legislation?"

"Well, my first goal is to pass it out of this chamber and that’s what I'm attempting to do right now."

"Sure. Well, I see there are a lot of folk who represent municipalities on this particular legislation. Individuals who probably have some experience with local government, so I can see how they would be excited about having money bypass the General Revenue Fund and go directly into the Local Distribution Fund. So, the Governor… Thank you for your effort. I appreciate you explaining this, Representative, former mayor, on your legislation. Thank you." 09800036.doc 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Thank you."

"Representative Hays."

"Sponsor yields."

"That is accurate, and the original agreement was 10 percent…”

“…which now it is 6 percent."

"Well, to be used for purposes other than what they were intended for."

"Representative Sandack."

"Leader Riley."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he does."

"Representative DeLuca, so what you're doing is you’re asking for the entire allotment of money that would be that would normally go to the LGDF to go directly to the LDGF or are you asking for a percentage thereof?"

"No the entire… the entire portion, the entire amount."

"The entire amount, okay. Thank you so much. And I'm not a member of the former mayor's caucus."

"Representative Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"Representative DeLuca to close."

"Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I ask for a 'yes' vote. Thank you."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 961 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Moffitt. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 961, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2482, Representative Cabello. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cabello."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2482 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hammond. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2482, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3157, Representative Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Evans."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3157 makes a technical change with the Department of Revenue. It’s an initiative of theirs. This Bill amends several actions of the Income Tax Code regarding corporation and ‘cause… excuse me… conduct business outside the State of Illinois. The Bill had a few issues and it was cleaned up, so we added the Amendment. I urge your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, could you just give us some examples of what substantively this Bill will change because I see 09800036.doc 23  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 there are some opponents. And I'd like to know what their opposition was?"

"A lot of opponents had some issues before we made the change. We deleted the issue regarding to unitary business group; a lot of the opponents had issues with that. Pretty much this Bill, at this point, consolidates some forms and…"

"Did your Amendment take away the opposition of those groups?"

"Yeah. That was my understanding. That's why it passed unanimously through the committee."

"Okay. So, we took out the unitary issues. So, what's left? Is it just more paperwork or…?"

"Exactly, yes, yes."

"So, there’s no real substantive changes you’re saying. It's just changes to the paperwork on the forms… on the income tax form."

"Exactly. It helps the Department of Revenue just… it just streamlines some… some issue with the Department of Revenue. So, there was no real big issues with it."

"Well, what will that do? Will that increase tax revenue for the state? Is that their goal?"

"That’s the goal. Yes, Sir."

"Okay. And is there specifically… How would our tax revenue increase as a result of this Bill?"

"Well, in the issue of less manpower, less steps for business to have to go through in identifying the revenues that could potentially be missed. That was my understanding." 09800036.doc 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"How would this change the apportionment of gain by partnerships and Subchapter S Corporations?"

"I'm sorry, Representative. If you’d repeat that again, please."

"How would… I'm looking at our analysis and I'm trying to understand the changes regarding the apportionment of gain by partnerships and Subchapter S Corporations."

"It's my understanding, Representative, it's regarding to the… the apportion that’s outside the State of Illinois. So, for example, if a company is doing business outside of the State of Illinois with partners outside of the State of Illinois, that that portion outside of the state of Illinois will be apportion to Illinois so."

"It wouldn’t be exempt? ‘Cause the way I'm reading it is it would be exempt unless it was created here in Illinois. For instance, let me give you… for example. Let's assume you have an interest in a Subchapter S Corporation and as a result you have you to file K-1. Your corporation has businesses in 14 separate states.”

“Yes.”

“Okay? So how would that affect a nonresident… let's assume it's an Illinois Subchapter S Corporation. You have an investor who lives in Indiana, that investor invests in the Illinois Sub S, but then, that Sub S has business interests in 14 separate states. How would it affect the owner, the investor in Indiana, in this Illinois corporation?"

"Well, the revenue realized by the nonresident will still be apportion in some way to Illinois." 09800036.doc 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Would it affect… but only that portion that's actually earned in Illinois, correct?"

"That's my understanding, Representative.”

“Okay.”

“Explained to me by the Department of Revenue."

"I just don't want to have an unintended consequences where folks are having to fight with their own Department of Revenues to show where the moneys were… were gained. Okay.”

"And I understand, Representative, but it was my understanding that those particular issues where cleared up…"

"Okay."

"…before I got to this point."

"Thank you."

"Representative Evans to close."

"Again, I urge your 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3157 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3157, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2919, Representative Fine. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Out of the record. Out of the record. House Bill 2574, Representative Davidsmeyer. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Davidsmeyer."

"Representative Bost."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Franks." 09800036.doc 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"He indicates that he will."

"I'm trying to figure out what you're doing here. My analysis indicates that you would allow veterans to do a in… an online course for an Illinois Hunter Education card, correct?"

"What's the difference between the online and the in person?"

"What happens if they haven’t had training with firearms?"

"Is that going to be in rule? I'm serious and I'm not sure how that would work. And let's assume we have someone who’s in the military who’s never had to go through that kind of course."

"Then who has to get the Illinois Hunter Education card? Who’s required to get that?"

"Is there any grant? Let’s assume you've been a hunter for a long time and you were born after 1980 and you've had a FOID card, even though you've had a lot of experience hunting, would you still have to do the Hunter Education card?"

"Even if that person had more experience with firearms than someone who's in the military?"

"Doesn’t seem fair."

"Well, why don’t we expand that for people who can demonstrate that they've had extensive hunting training?"

"If you'd like… we've got another week if you'd like to move it to Second.”

"And I'm not trying trip you up…”

“…but I just think it seems fair."

"All right. Well, maybe…"

"Would you be willing to have it amended in the Senate and sent back over that way, as many Bills are." 09800036.doc 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Well, we'll talk to you about that ‘cause that happens a lot. I'm really not trying to trip you. I just think it’s… if you're trying to give people with experience a break, I think we should give everybody with experience a break."

"All right. Thank you."

"Representative Davidsmeyer to close."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2574 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Martwick, Smith, Franks. Mr. Clerk, please take the roll. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2574, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Kay."

"The record shall reflect your request. House Bill 310, Representative Ford. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Out of the record. Out of the record. House Bill 2753, Representative Gabel. Mr. Clerk, please read the record… read the Bill."

"Representative Gabel."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, this Bill implements a number of recommendations from the Offshore Wind Advisory Council’s report from last year. It creates a policy task force to develop an appropriate mechanism for purchasing and selling power from offshore wind energy projects. Second, it requires the Department of Natural Resources to develop a detailed sighting matrix to identify areas that might be prohibited or preferred for wind energy. And third, it allows the department to adopt rules with consultation with EPA, Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity, Power Agency and the Commerce Commission. I appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Osmond."

"She indicates that she will."

"So, this task force is simply to look at how you would get the power from the offshore wind to the land. It was something that we couldn’t come up with in the task force which did have a lot of representation from community residents. We are very far from doing anything in the lake 09800036.doc 32  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 right now, so the rules will state very clearly that there has to be a lot of input from community residents before anything can be developed anywhere."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "So, Representative, if I understand this correctly, this is trying to figure out how to move the energy from point a to point b, sell the energy. Am I reasonably correct?"

"Well, the previous task force, we really didn’t have the people on that task force to look at that question, that whole question of how you get the energy back, how you sell it. Yes, how you get it back and how you sell it. So, this task force would be to bring people together who have more knowledge about that to come up with some recommendations." Davis, W.: "Well, I want to… I'm definitely going to support your Bill, but I would like to know if you will be interested that when this Bill goes over to the Senate that maybe some language could be added that speak to how… how in terms from the business standpoint, smaller minority business may have opportunity to participate in this venture."

"Absolutely. And that should be included in the rules that the department designs as well." Davis, W.: "Well, I guess the question is, if it's not explicitly stated in the legislation versus saying please 09800036.doc 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 don’t hold it up or anything that kind of… anything like that. You know, when it goes over to the Senate, can some language be added that speaks to that?"

"Okay. Thank you. Yes. We can work on… we can work on that in the Senate." Davis, W.: “Thank you.”

"Representative Dunkin."

"Do you feel the energy? How much energy is that generated would you say, Robyn Gabel?"

"You're a big blow hard. I think a lot of energy."

"Can you put me on your Bill as a cosponsor?"

“I can. Thank you very much.”

“Thank you.”

"Representative Durkin."

"Pardon? How far does what?"

"No, the state does."

"There would be many, many hurdles to overcome before anything could be put into the lake. Yes, there are federal agencies that it would have to go through." 09800036.doc 34  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"I don’t have an opinion on how many or if… what this does is it just looks to see if there are any appropriate places."

"My understanding is that the energy that we have in the lake, the wind energy, is much, much stronger than the energy we have, that the wind that is produced on the land."

"That because they would be in the lake, first they would be at least six miles out so you would hardly be able to see them. It would be like a thumb nail and… they also would be much larger than the ones on land so you would need many fewer to get similar energy."

"All that would be looked at."

"Okay."

"Representative Gabel to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, the Great Lakes protection and offshore wind developments go hand in hand. With careful siting and extensive community involvement, offshore parks will only be located, designed and monitored in a way that safeguards the eco system. Protecting Lake Michigan is a critical part of what is best for our state. I ask for your support."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2753 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 90 voting 'yes', 21 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2753, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Davidsmeyer."

“Please state your point.”

"Welcome to your Capitol. Representative Ann Williams."

"Thanks, Mr. Speaker. For purposes of an announcement."

"Please state your point."

"Tonight, the Green Caucus will be hosting a briefing on the renewable portfolio standard in Room 413 of the Stratton Building. The briefing is open to all. It will start at 4:30 unless Session goes later, then we'll push it back. If you can't make it tonight, tomorrow we'll host another briefing in the first floor conference room in the Senate. So, please stop by and learn a little bit about how we set the standards for utilization of renewable energy in Illinois. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative. House Bill 772, Representative D’Amico. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative D’Amico."

"Welcome, Mr. White."

"Representative McAuliffe."

"He indicates that he will."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, M.: "Thank you. Representative, you know, I admire any legislation that helps young people today, at least this is not a punishment to them.”

"Leader Mautino."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"And I apologize. Over some of the noise, I didn’t hear the explanation of the Amendment. So someone who is 20 years old now… How does this change? Let's take a 20-year- old coming back from the service. Right now, he could walk in, take a driver's license test, get his rules of the road book, pay his fee and go. What… what happens now?"

"Okay. So, it's a 6-hour online course for these… for these adults.”

“And will they be able to take it right at the facility from the Secretary of State?"

"Who’s… who is certified to… do we have certified schools here in the… that can do an online program or what's the structure for that?"

"Okay. And what… what's the cost of the company online. I know that we get $5 as a state for it, but what… 09800036.doc 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 This formerly free service, what is it now going to cost someone to go get?"

"Twenty five dollars for the test and for the course itself?"

"Okay. I was going to say I saw that it said other applicable fees. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate the clarification."

"Representative D’Amico to close."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 772 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 772, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3152, Representative Durkin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Durkin."

"Seeing no debate… Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Mr. Speaker, will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "So, I noticed this yesterday, Representative, so I just wanted to ask very briefly. So, this just removes the high school from underneath the treasurer’s…”

"Representative Durkin to close."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3152 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3152, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1192, Representative Hernandez. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1192 as amended addresses an issue that pertains to the local health department in my district. The health district is structured in a unique way that makes it 09800036.doc 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 difficult for them to comply with current food inspection policies established by the Cook County Health Department, not too long ago. I worked with the department and various others that were concerned and we agreed to address the problem through an intergovernmental agreement. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 1192 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the roll… record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1192, is hereby declared… having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Fortner, for what reason do you seek recognition? All right. House Bill 830, Representative Hoffman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Hoffman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 830 is an initiative of the Metro Counties Association which, as you know, is 15 of the largest counties in the state. This would address the collecting of delinquent fines. It says that the fee that could be charged of a delinquent amount will be 30 percent plus each taxable court cost including the cost of service to process. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 830 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed 09800036.doc 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Bellock, Currie, Smiddy, Sullivan. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 68 voting 'yes', 43 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 830, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2454, Representative Fortner. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Fortner."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2454 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Thapedi. Thank you. Mr. Clerk, please take the roll. On a count of 112 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2454, 09800036.doc 46  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3075, Leader Lang. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Lang."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. This Bill concerns screening for children. So, we all know that when they start school they take an eye exam, they take a hearing test and many times there are students with perfect vision and perfect hearing who still, for whatever reason, can't link the two together. Because of this many school districts have misdiagnosed children and thought they were autistic, put them in special ed. There’s all kinds of programs out there, many of which are used in Europe and we had a doctor come before committee and testify about her work on the subject. This Bill would create a pilot program in select school districts that would study this and require that, in those select school districts, they do other kinds of testing. It's very minimal cost because it only requires something like a bell. And… I think this would help school districts and maybe get many kids out of special ed that really don't even belong there, saving the schools lots of money, saving parents lots of headache. And I would ask for your support."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09800036.doc 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Davis, W.: "Representative, according to the analysis it says that this pilot program will be in selected school districts. Have those school districts already been determined or how will those school districts be determined?"

"We're leaving that up to the State Board of Education, but certainly if a school district wanted to do it, they could go to the state board and make the request. It won’t be forced on anybody, Representative." Davis, W.: "Understood, but does this Bill set forth any guidelines or criteria by which the state board will make that decision? And I guess what I'm getting at, is that if you look at, you know, the disparity of funding in school districts and I appreciate what you're getting at about maybe taking schools off of special ed or out of special ed that may not to be there because they aren’t seeing the board properly or they have some hearing challenges. But when you look at the cost of special ed, there are some school districts who can't afford, you know, to pay the higher cost of special ed versus some school districts that can. So, if there’s any way to talk about looking at school districts that maybe don’t have local resource or aren’t getting as much money as other school districts, maybe as a way in terms of the selection process. So, I'm just wondering is there anything that can help in terms of making those decisions?"

"Well, I'd be happy to work with you and perhaps go with you to the State Board of Education and make that suggestion and if you think this Bill needs amending in the 09800036.doc 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Senate on this issue, I'd be glad to work with you on that as well." Davis, W.: "Well, I appreciate that. Again, I appreciate what you're doing. I want to… I'm definitely going to support the Bill, but you know, there are probably some school districts that could use that kind of look versus other school districts, not that they all don’t want to reduce those costs but some the cost is more burdensome than others. So, maybe there is a way we can look at it in the Senate."

"Thank you." Davis, W.: "Thank you."

"Representative Willis."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"According to this, how long is the pilot program supposed to last?"

"The state board and the State Department of Public Health would work that out. There's no specific link. There's no specific time it would start. They would determine that by rule, Representative."

"And then, if this is a successful pilot program which I anticipate it would be, then would every school be required to have a speech or an occupational therapist on their rolls to implement this program?"

"Well, that’s undecided and we don’t really know, as we stand here now, who the right professional might be. It could be a pediatric optometrist or ophthalmologist. There's all sorts of different professionals who could be 09800036.doc 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 involved in this program. What we want to do mostly is start this pilot and see what we find. But I think we're going to find that there are a lot of kids that have been misplaced over the years and this program will help us start to weed them out."

"Thank you."

"Representative Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yeah. Virtually zero, Representative, because the doctor who testified, testified that with… just by purchasing a bell, a simple bell, you can learn a lot about a child. The training would be done within the… the in-service programs and other training that teachers and other professionals at the schools do now, so there would be no additional cost, really."

"No, Sir."

"Absolutely, Sir." 09800036.doc 50  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the… will the Sponsor yield?”

"He indicates that he will."

"Yes. Representative Lang, I just want to mention, I did have the demonstration. I just wanted to let my colleagues know I was very impressed with it. Yes. The do… I had the demonstration and they did put the bell in front of you. You're supposed to close your eyes and follow it and that then will indicate whether you have an issue, you know, that the school will address. I just want to stand in support of this Bill. It's a very important Bill. I think that many students… children have been misdiagnosed. And I think that this is a good pilot program. It doesn’t cost money; it makes sense. And again, I did have a demonstration and I know that I'm hard of hearing on one side than the other. So, yes, when I had that demonstration, it did indicate that. So, I stand here in strong support of this Bill and I encourage my colleagues here in the General Assembly to also join us and support this Bill. It's a good Bill and I think it's going to make a lot of sense when it comes to our students doing better in school and that's why we’re here. We all always run on the issues of education and this is an education Bill. Thank you."

"Leader Lang to close."

"I would appreciate your 'aye' vote."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3075 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting 09800036.doc 51  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3075, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2643, Representative Martwick. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is House Bill 26… 2463 the Vulnerable Adult Fatality Review Team Act. It's an initiative of the Attorney General. It establishes 13 fatality review teams for vulnerable adults to assist local agencies in identifying death due to abuse or neglect, facilitate communications between persons reporting or investigating deaths and determine if deaths can be prevented and report findings to agencies as well as to the Executive Council of the review team. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Brady."

"Sponsor yields."

"This would be the Department of Aging would oversee this. They would appoint members to 13 review teams statewide." 09800036.doc 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"The specific difference is that this is to address a hole in those teams. So, as you mention, you have children, we have seniors. What this does is this covers situations where it involves the child of… I mean, excuse me, an adult 18 to 59 years of age residing in a domestic living situation where they have a physical or mental disability that impairs their ability to protect themselves from abuse or neglect."

"The problem is, is that there are several different agencies that have jurisdiction over different situations and what this does is this ties this all up and coordinates it."

"There… there are specific instances where a review… where these teams would perform reviews. The instances are where the death involves a blunt force trauma, where there's an undetermined or suspicious manner, if it’s requested by the decedent’s attending physician, referred 09800036.doc 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 by a health care provider or if the decedent was a subject of a case involving abuse and neglect."

"I don’t believe that there’s any provision for financial compensation."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"There was some concern because there is a… the department… of course, this changes it from a… there was a ‘may’ in the law. This re… this is a ‘shall’ and there was some concern because the… this is an expansion. There are currently adult fatality review teams that deal with elder deaths. I think there's 6 of them; this would expand it to 13. And you know, I'm sure this creates some additional 09800036.doc 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 work for them, so I imagine that's why they're opposed to it."

"I mean, there is… there is no that I'm aware of. Yeah, I mean, they have concerns that there would be an additional cost because obviously it's more work. But I mean, this is… this is… all of the people would be performing their role in these review panels as part of their… their conditions of their employment anyway so."

"No, Representative, I don't believe it does because it… the coroners are included on these teams. This is a… these review teams are only to be used in certain circumstances, not every death. So, the coroner would still be reviewing the vast majority of deaths. These teams are assembled to review specific cases or when requested…”

“…and the coroners would be… coroners would be a member of the… of the team. So, this is providing additional expertise to investigate…”

“Excuse me, Representative.”

“…a particular incident."

"Excuse me, Representative. Can we please get some order in here. Members are having trouble hearing. Thank you. You may proceed." 09800036.doc 55  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Yes. So, the coroners would be would be… a member of some of these panels, of these teams and their authority would not be usurped. Remember, these teams are only… they would only engage a review under certain circumstances or when requested by… again, in certain cases. So, the vast majority of cases, the coroner would still be reviewing. These are specific cases and the coroners would be a part of these teams and the idea of these teams is to provide expertise in a big panel that it goes beyond what the coroner has so that the coroner can bring their expertise and rely on other law enforcement personnel and physicians and whatnot to help review the cases."

"Well, I mean, I can't walk you through a hypothetical, but I can… I can cite from the Bill. There is, for instance, you're talking about someone 18 to 59 years of age. So, someone that's not qualified as a senior, vulnerable senior, but… so, you take someone who is… has a mental or physical disability that impairs their ability to protect themselves from abuse or neglect. So, you start with that. Number 2, there's a death involving a blunt force trauma or there is a case that there is alleged abuse or neglect. That's where the teams would come in, or if it was requested by the attending physician and his staff."

"Again, yes, this is any domestic living situation, but this is… it's not every case. It's cases that meet a certain criteria or where there is a specific request."

"Well, they could be requested by the decedent’s attending physician. Okay. So, that might be in a case where, for instance, where there's not a blunt force trauma involved, right. There's not a death that is… obviously requires some sort of investigation, but perhaps there is some allege of neg… allegation of neglect. The attending physician notices something that this person who was vulnerable not… was vulnerable and could not protect themselves from neglect, and therefore, they were neglected and to the point that they died. So, the attending physician in the hospital might… could then trigger a request for this."

"I imagine they would, but again… I imagine you're right. I don’t know. I would assume then that an attending physician would report something suspicious to law 09800036.doc 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 enforcement. But again, what this does is this takes a situation where what they… what their request would do would be in addition to that, would trigger this review team which, again, instead of just the coroner reviewing this case then the panel would be engaged and you would have a broader base of experience. And again, it’s not just to determine the manner of death. The purpose of this is to assist local agencies in identifying death due to abuse and neglect. Also, to determine if deaths could have been prevented to affect policies, so they're reporting findings. Again, this is not just to deal with a specific situation, but to establish findings that might lead to policy changes that could prevent these tasks in the future."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Representative Greg Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise in support of the Gentleman's legislation as this is part of an ongoing effort to address cases of abuse and neglect of disabled adults in residential settings that have come forward in recent years where the existing investigatory system has truly failed adults with disabilities. And I'm very glad to have worked with the Gentleman, with the Attorney General, with the various departments to expand on an existing concept that has been used by the Department of Aging to prevent abuse and neglect cases for elders. So, the reason the Department of Aging is involved is we’re just trying to not reinvent the 09800036.doc 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 wheel, but to expand that to a population of folks who are not DCFS, who are 18 to 59, who are living in residential settings who have disabilities. I think it's a commonsense approach. It is… got a proven track record and it will prevent harm to some of our most vulnerable citizens. So, I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Sacia."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yeah. Representative, the teams do involve law enforcement. So, again, this is reviewing the death. The teams will consist of one member from each of the following categories. So, a physician knowledgeable about abuse and neglect of vulnerable adults."

"Of course."

"Well, Representative, I'm sure that everything that you've said is true, but remember that the idea of these death review teams goes beyond simply investigating. There is an investigatory part of it which is why they do include law enforcement. They include representatives of the Department of the State… State Police and state's attorneys and the coroner. The idea is that this is for vulnerable adults. These are people with… whose physical or mental disability prevents them from defending themselves from abuse or neglect. So, we start with that premise. Now, you add the blunt force trauma. Yes, I'm sure there's been an investigation that's been initiated, but in this sense the idea of the… of the panel is more than just to determine who’s at fault. There's no doubt that I'm sure that that portion of this investigation is best served by law enforcement, no doubt, but this goes beyond that. The purpose of these teams is not only to assist local agencies in identifying deaths that are due to abuse or neglect, but also to facilitate communication between persons reporting or investigating the deaths, to determine if these deaths could be prevented and then to repot these findings to the appropriate agencies to effect policy that might prevent 09800036.doc 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 these deaths from happening in the future, for vulnerable adults."

"Thank you."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"Yes."

"That is correct."

"Well, they… they’re all… I mean, they worked together, so I don’t see the problem, but I, you know…"

"Thank you."

"Representative Kay."

"He indicates that he will."

"Well, Representative, this is all intended to be moved together, is my understanding, but this addresses this specific instance and it's filling this specific hole in what we have going on right now. And if it winds up as part of a bigger Bill at the end, that’s great, but we certainly don’t want to… we don’t want to take a chance that this part would not be part of the final Bill than if it… What if the final Bill doesn’t pass? This… this part is important and…"

"…that's why I'm moving to get it passed now." 09800036.doc 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Yeah. Of course, we want to try and put them all into one Bill eventually, but as I said, you know, I… there’s no guarantee that when Representative Harris presents his Bill that this provision, which would be a part of the bigger Bill, would pass. This is an important provision, so that’s why I thought it's best to do it now. If it is then, you know, if this is amended or if this is replaced by the bigger Bill at a later time, I'm in all in support of that…”

“…but until that happens, I think that this is a good thing to move this forward."

"Again, I'm not suggesting that there's anything that is terribly different in what's contained. But Representative Harris's Bill is a bigger Bill, so there's other… other parts of it. This addresses one specific situation." 09800036.doc 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Thank you."

"Representative Martwick to close."

"I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2643 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hammond, Wheeler. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 78 voting 'yes', 33 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2643, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bost."

"The record will reflect your request. Thank you. House Bill 973, Representative Hatcher. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Hatcher."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 973 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the roll. On a count of 75 voting 'yes', 36 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 973, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3122, Representative Mautino. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Mautino."

"Thank you. Ladies and Gentlemen, House Bill 3122 is the annual transfer Bill for the Auditor General and basically what it is, is it has a listing of funds. Whenever the Auditor General conducts an audit, moneys are transferred there in order to pay for the audits. He does audits of both the management and the financial side of all of our agencies. And this is the Bill which allows him to take from these funds, place it into his audit expense fund and thereby conduct the audits for the State of Illinois. I know of no opposition. And I would ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3122 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3122, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House 09800036.doc 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Bill 2934, Representative Mussman. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Mussman."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Members of the House. This Bill is actually an initiative of the child care providers in the community who looked at the work that we did to provide Internet safety protections last year and have asked to be included in those same protections. So, it's gimply an opportunity for them to post a notification on their website as to whether or not they do any sort of a background check and provide some guidance as to how people can make better informed decisions about the people that they’re utilizing to provide in home care for their children and their elderly. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote and I’m happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2934 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', and 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2934, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2642, Representative Kosel. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Kosel." 09800036.doc 66  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, don't we already notify people that are paying cash how much they're paying?"

"Does it really matter electronically."

"No, but I mean, you've already done it. I mean, you know you're paying half the… you’re paying half the rate of the cash payers, right?"

“Correct.”

"Where… where would you put these signs?”

"Is there a cost to this? Have you figured out what that would cost?"

"’Cause I see oftentimes they've got those electronic billboards that they're always putting things up or they also have some that when you're driving on the Kennedy they'll have an amber alert or something. Could you just use those changeable electronic signs?”

"Why is the Illinois Toll Highway Authority opposed?"

"On the Democratic analysis it indicates they are opposed. I don’t know if anyone has talked to them."

"Okay. Well, thank you."

"Representative Kosel to close."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2642 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2642, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1533, Representative Nekritz. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1533 deals with the Illinois Sentencing Policy Advisory Council. It does two things for the… and the acronym is SPAC. One, is it exempts SPAC from the Personnel Code. The reason for that is that the positions that SPAC hires are very specialized, requiring advanced degrees and… and so they have trouble filling that through the Personnel Code. And secondly, their… their statutory authorization only lasts for a few more years. So, it is a short-term exemption that we would be offering them. And the second thing the Bill does is to ch… change some of the appointments to the council itself and how those appointments are made and who sits on the council."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 1533 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Gabel. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 09800036.doc 69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1533, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3233, Representative Leitch. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Leitch."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields." 09800036.doc 70  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Leitch to close."

"The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3233 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Will Davis, Sente. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 71 voting 'yes', 39 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3233, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3199, Representative Riley. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Al Riley." 09800036.doc 71  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 3199 just endeavors to have CMAP, which is the MPO for the Chicago Metropolitan area, come before this Body before their annual budget. As you know, again, CMAP was the amalgamation of CATS and NIPC into the regional planning organization for the six-county area and we did that by statute in 2007. There’s a lot of things that they control. They do a lot of very important land use and other planning and because they do that and because we partially fund them, they should come before us before their annual budget. And that’s what 3199 endeavors to do. And I'll answer any questions you may have."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3199 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Kosel. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3199, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2762, Representative Scherer. Mr… Out of the record. House Bill 1206, Representative Sente. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Sente."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1206 is a Bill we have passed on true… two prior occasions. MABAS is an intergovernal… a governmental consortium of 111 local governments ensuring fire emergency management service and special teams mutual aid assistance under the Illinois 09800036.doc 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Intergovernmental Cooperation Act. MABAS has been leasing office space from the Village of Wheeling and receiving property tax exemption. They would like to purchase the building and property, which has been off the tax rolls for 20 years and therefore, would like to codify their tax- exempt status into law. Everyone is in agreement. The Village of Wheeling, Cook County, and Illinois Department of Revenue take no issue with the request. And it passed unanimously out of Revenue. Happy to take questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 1206 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1206, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2639, Representative McAuliffe. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill.”

"Representative McAuliffe."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2639 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2639, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2969, Representative Smiddy. Out of the record. House Bill 2752, Representative Smith. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Smith."

"Mr. Speaker, House Bill 2752 protects taxpayer who are choosing to do the right thing by entering a repayment plan with the Department of Revenue. This legislation prohibits the department from putting a lien on the property as long as the taxpayer is in compliance with the terms of the repayment plan. This will help encourage taxpayers who have in the past fallen behind in their tax payments to continue to follow their plan and repay it to the state. This is an initiative of the Department of Revenue and I have no opposition on the Bill. And I would appreciate your support."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2752 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Kay, D'Amico. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 09800036.doc 74  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2752, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Leader Lang in the Chair."

"House Bill 983, Mr. McSweeney. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. McSweeney."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. On this question, the Chair recognizes Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?" 09800036.doc 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. Representative, I appreciate working with you on this Bill. You spent a lot of time and effort in this near and dear to our hearts being from McHenry county. One provision you did not discuss in the… in your opening was the conflict of interest provision that I think may be the most important one here. Could you explain that to the Members of this General Assembly?"

"And we've seen in the past that there has been conflicts and as a result the taxpayers have had to pay dearly because when these alternative revenue bonds have been issued, tax… in many instances, taxpayers home property taxes have gone up exponentially to cover the shortfall. Isn’t that correct?"

"And I know that those that have came after them were very upset that they… they were saddled with these additional taxes."

"And the other issue that you did in this I found fascinating is it gave additional time for taxpayers to collect the required signatures and actually reduce the required signature amount still making it difficult to get, but some… but at least attainable, correct?"

"Well, thank you. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker and the Members. I'd encourage an 'aye' vote here. This is a very impressive Bill. I know it's your first Bill and it's one that I think will make a large difference to many people. I think it tightens up the alternative revenue bond issue. I think it protects our taxpayers. I think it gives the taxpayers a voice. And I'm thankful to work with you on it. And I encourage all to vote 'aye'."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"I see some opposition from some groups and I was wondering if you could explain what they’re opposing?"

"Thank you."

"Mr. Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"I did not hear or it was not clear as it relates to why there’s so many opp… so much opposition, Representative.”

"’Cause it's very difficult to hear. You see how I project through the microphone. Can you…”

"It's tough to hear you."

"What do you call the referendum, again?"

"Like back order."

"So, 4 thousand… so, we're looking at going from 4 thousand to 200, correct?"

"So, why is this important for us to do at this moment, now?"

"So, now, who brought this legislation?"

"Okay. Was…is the Illinois Policy Institute connected with this in any way."

"Jack… Jack Franks?"

"Really? You guys share a pretty sort of common legislative policy ideology here?"

"I've always figured that Jack Franks had a different political ideology than a lot of us here on this floor ‘cause he has a different way of perce… you know, perceiving government and the approach towards government. I'm trying to still figure out Jack Frank's perspective on how government should function. Can you elaborate? ‘Cause I see you guys are cosponsors here and Kay, Dwight. This is a pretty interesting trio here. Can you imagine being in the same vehicle or truck with Jack Franks, Dwight Kay and yourself, McSweeney? You're driving, right or Jack’s driving?"

"I can believe that. So… I know Jack. Jack's a friend of mine and some people don’t know Jack, but I know Jack. So, would this im… would this impact the City of Chicago?"

"Any other municipalities?"

"Over how many?"

"Five hundred thousand?"

"So, that’s… so, what do the other Legislators feel about this legislation since they're pretty much below 500 thousand?"

"Unanimously, it came out of committee.”

“Let me check that. Hold on, hold on."

"How did it pass out of committee, Representative?"

"What were their… what were their issues? I'm curious. This is pretty important, you know, getting a shorter amount of signatures to get bonds, right?"

"Okay. All right. Is there anything else you want to enlighten or share with this Body before this legislation passes, Representative?" 09800036.doc 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Before you leave. What's your interpretation… anticipation of this pass in the Senate."

"Have you identified a Sponsor yet?"

"So you're going to go over to the Senate and push this Bill as well?"

"Who’s the Senator that’s going to carry this Bill? ‘Cause you know Senators don’t like to be pushed from what I understand."

"Pat Althoff, is she or he new?"

"Oh, Althoff. Pam, oh yeah, the red head. Does she know Jack? Oh, she don’t know Jack… which, I mean."

"Okay. Thanks for the clarification, Representative."

"Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just… was that your first… is this your first Bill, Representative?"

"Mr. Reboletti."

"Sure."

"Mr. McSweeney to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. Brauer, Cavaletto, Costello, Lilly, Sims, Sullivan. Mr. Sullivan. Please take the record. On this question, there are 101 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair recognizes Representative Monique Davis. Members, please give Representative Davis your attention." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to a point of personal privilege."

"Please proceed." Davis, M.: "I'd like to announce that one of our third oldest Members in this Body lost her brother yesterday, Mary Flowers. I'd ask that the Body stand for a moment in respect to Mary Flowers’ brother. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen."

"Thank you, Representative. Mr. Turner in the Chair."

"Next we have House Bill 3003, Representative Soto. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800036.doc 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 3003 creates a Childhood Cancer Research Board that reviews grant applications, makes recommendations and comments and consults with the Department of Public Health in making grants from amounts appropriate from the Childhood Research Fund to the public and private and not-for-profit entities. And I urge an 'aye' vote. Hoping to have your support. Thank you."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 3003 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Ives, Cavaletto. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3003, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3380, Representative Tabares. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Out of the record, please. House Bill 962, Representative Thapedi. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 962 is cosponsored by every member of the International Trade & Commerce 09800036.doc 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Committee. By way of background, Mr. Speaker, in 2005 the General Assembly found it was in our best interest to create a not-for-profit corporation, not an agency, to foster trade opportunities with the world. By law, the Illinois Global Partnership is to maintain an office here in Springfield as well as in Chicago, both offices quickly emerged as global leaders. For example, the World Bank has a competitive process for countries to follow in order to qualify to do business with them. The World Bank actually has a program where they select Private Sector Liaison Officers. In 2008, the World Bank had 80 member countries in the PSLO program, the United States had one representative office and that was here in Illinois. And as you can imagine, as having our own World Bank PSLO office here in Illinois, trade with our foreign partners flourished from 2005 to 2008. Since that time, there's been a rapid decline in our trading opportunities with our foreign partners. And the purpose of the Bill is twofold: Number 1 for the General Assembly to follow the directives of the Illinois Global Partnership Act by waking up and jumpstarting the dormant IGP. And secondly, to ensure that the proper transparency safeguards are in place for the IGP to operate and secure billions of dollars in contracts and jobs for and with our international trading partners. I know about no opposition. There should be no opposition. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 962. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 09800036.doc 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 wish? Have all voted who wish? Sosnowski. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 962, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2761, Representative Moffitt. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Moffitt."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2761… The question is, ‘Shall House Bill 2761 pass?’ All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2761, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3262, Representative Verschoore. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Verschoore."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. What this Bill does is it clarifies the intent of legislation passed in 205. It was thought that the legislation passed in ‘05 would give public water districts and non profit water companies the ability to place water lines on highway right-of-way when private easement was not obtainable. It has since been suggested that the change in the Highway Code was needed also. House Bill 3262 will amend both the Public Water District Act and the Highway Code stipulation that the water districts have the ability to place these pipes in the highway right-of-way. I'd be glad to answer any questions."

"Seeing no de… Representative Will Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09800036.doc 89  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Davis, W.: "Representative, when you talk about easements along the highways, are you talking about highways that are only owned or that are state highways or county highways? Is it possible that a… the land or the easement next to a highway could be private property?"

"Well, if it… next to the easement could be, but I think highway… all highways, county, state and federal highways are owned by government." Davis, W.: "Okay. So, the easements, no easement would be private property?"

"That's the way I understand it, yes." Davis, W.: "The way you understand it?"

"Yes." Davis, W.: "Okay. Thank you."

"Thank you."

"Representative Kosel."

"Gentleman yields."

"No, Representative."

"Only public water districts."

"And non profits."

“Representative Jack Franks.”

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09800036.doc 90  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Presently, Representative, if there is to be an easement granted, does it have to be consensual?"

"Have to be consensual?"

"Consensual. It has to be agreed to by both parties."

"By the state and the water company, I would assume, yes."

"No. I'm talking about presently. Be… before this Bill, should it become law? For one to obtain an easement, doesn't the one who's giving the easement have to actually agree to it?"

"I would say yes."

"Okay. But this would change long-standing tradition in the State of Illinois. And this Bill would say that the property owner would have no say whatsoever, and they would have… and an easement would be given by right over their property."

"No. Thi… This would give… This with a… If they don’t want to give an easement, this could go on the right- of-way of the state or the federal highway. It wouldn’t affect the constituent or the home… or the landowner. The way I… the way I see it."

"That's not how I read it by our analysis because if a homeowner or a property owner owned the land on both sides of the road, this Bill would say they could not object and that an easement would be automatically given to them."

"The highway auth…"

"It'd be taken from them, actually."

"The highway authority would have to authorize it in order for it to go through the… on the right-of-way." 09800036.doc 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"But the homeowner or the property owner would not be reimbursed. In other instances when an easement is given, the property owner would be reimbursed. But what you're saying here is, is that this easement will be taken from the property owner and that property owner will not get any remuneration for the use of their property."

"No. But there won't be… it won't go through their property. It would be on the highway. It would be…"

"No. It would go through their property the way your Bill reads. This would take away a private property owner's ability to object to an easement if you're dealing with a public water authority."

"Well, that's what… that's what it says."

"Okay. Do you think that's the right public policy to take away private property owner's rights? Don't you think it'd be… make more sense to allow them to be… to continue what we've been doing and to negotiate and make it a consensual transaction, or if they… if they don't agree, to go to a court and perhaps get eminent domain. But I'm concerned that this would take away… this Bill, should it pass, would take away private property owner's rights."

"Well, if they wouldn't agree, then there… we wouldn't… they wouldn't be able to lay the lines and they wouldn't be… people wouldn't be able to get water. So…"

"But they… but they do have a way to get around that. If they couldn't agree, they could go to court. And they could get an expedited hearing; they can do an eminent domain proceeding. Why would we take away a procedural 09800036.doc 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 safeguard and a property right 'cause this is not something that we should be taking lightly?"

"No. I don't take it lightly, but I… the highway authority still has to agree to it. So, it'd be the state agreeing with it."

"I get that. But that's the government agreeing to do something with my land. Perhaps, I don't wish to have the government decide how my land is to be used unless they'd like to take it by eminent domain, which they have that right. I'm just wondering, have they… is there a specific situation here that they’re trying to solve that they have not gone through the procedural safeguards that are presently existing?"

"Well, when the property owner refuses to grant the easement, that's what the pur… the purpose of this is… is to…"

"I know. Is… I think a better solution would be perhaps to give an expedited hearing on eminent domain so the parties could be heard. I just hate to take away someone's private property rights without any chance of remuneration without any chance of being heard. Because what could happen, for instance, if… if the water authority was actually wrong, that there might have been a better place to run an easement than through someone's private property 'cause there's no chance here for any appeal or for any independent third party to weigh in."

"I think the reason for this, Representative Franks, was… that's the case. There was no other place to 09800036.doc 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 run it other than on the… on the highway, highway property."

"I'm sorry. I had trouble hearing you. I apologize."

"I said I think the reason for it was there was no other place to run it and that's why they wanted to run it on the highway easement."

"Well, my question is, is there any other remedy, presently, that they could do? Could they go to court for this?"

"Not that I'm aware of."

"Okay. Well, I appreciate your answers. And I… I will stand in opposition because I think that property rights are pretty sacred, and I think there's other ave… avenues here that government could go forward including eminent domain. And I'd like to see this changed to, perhaps, allowing for a quicker eminent domain proceeding whether than stripping someone of their property rights without them having any say. So, I'd encourage a 'no' vote."

"Representative Verschoore to close."

"I think we're going to pull it from the record and see if we can work on this a little more."

"Mr. Clerk, please take this Bill from the record. House Bill 2768, Representative Welch. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2768 is a Bill that requires local school districts and local police 09800036.doc 94  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 departments to communicate with each other regarding gang activity. This is a Bill that basically extends a law that is already in effect that covers the Chicago Public Schools and already requires the Chicago Public Schools to report gang activity between schools and local police departments and vice versa. I'm asking the House of Representatives to extend this to the rest of the state."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman from DuPage, Representative Reboletti."

"He indicates that he will."

"This particular Bill, Representative Reboletti, does not include the city because they are already included under 105 ILCS 5/34-8.1. That Bill that's currently in existence has the exact same language as this Bill, and it only covers the Chicago Public Schools. I'm taking that Bill and extending it to the rest of the state. And this is a valuable tool that suburban police departments, particularly in my district, would really like to have at their disposal."

"I… I don't have that information. I do know that a lot of the suburban school districts already do it on a 09800036.doc 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 voluntary basis, and… and they have reported great success with… with it."

"Representative Monique Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, M.: "Representative Welch, I'm sorry I didn't hear your report on this particular Bill. Could you explain, again, what this Bill does?"

"Representative Davis, this Bill basically requires communication between the local school district and the local police department. Basically, what we're trying to do is to prevent spillover into either entity. If there's a gang fight in the local cafeteria on a Fr… on a Wednesday, the principal or his designee is responsible to let the police department know. Vice versa if there's a… a gang fight in the community on a Saturday or a Sunday, the police department’s required to let the school know. What happens? The school has increased security on the next available school day. You don't have a gang fight that happened in the community spillover into the school. I think it's… This is all about the safety of students and the welfare of our kids. And I think it's a good Bill for our state." Davis, M.: "I just want to ask a few questions. How does this Bill relate to the privacy of school… of children? You know there's a Privacy Act where you cannot give the names of children to outside sources. So, are you saying that this privacy law is no longer to be adhered to, that the names 09800036.doc 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 of children who are involved in a so-called gang fight, their name could be given to the police?"

"Well, Representative Davis, the Bill, specifically, says illegal gang activity as a criminal offense… I'm sorry. It specifically talks about the illegal use or possession of weapons or illegal gang activity. So, if a student is involved in that type of behavior, I certainly believe that they're entitled to waive that privacy." Davis, M.: "So, if they're involved in fighting or what else… what else would you say re… requires a police notification?"

"It… The Bill says illegal use of weapons or illegal gang activity. So, if it is a gang fight, which I recently had in the school district that I serve where we had two large gangs at war fighting each other and that fight in the cafeteria, we reported that to the local police department. And this Bill would require that all school districts do that across the state because we don't want what happened in the local cafeteria to spillovers into the community and cause something… greater havoc." Davis, M.: "So, am I correct in looking at the analysis that Chicago is excluded from this legislation?"

"Chicago is already under a similar Bill. So, there is no new… need to duplicate that. Chicago is under 105 ILCS 5/34-8.1. What we're doing is taking that Bill and extending it to the rest of the state." Davis, M.: "So, Chicago already has legislation in which if there's a fight in a community that the school districts, even though the kids probably go to many, many different 09800036.doc 97  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 schools, the school districts have to be told that there was a fight, when it occurred, and so forth?"

"Your… you're using fight without gang before it. I think it's important to distinguish. Kids are going to fight; we know kids are going to fight. There's a difference between a fight over a boy or something or a girl than a gang fight. A gang fight is something that, I think, we should all be concerned about, and we want to make sure that we maintain safety in our public schools." Davis, M.: "Representative Welch, I'm sorry, I was a teacher for a number of years, and I don't know the difference between a gang fight and a fight. Can you kind of elaborate on the difference between a gang fight and just a fight?"

"I… I think it speaks for itself, Representative." Davis, M.: "I mean, are they wearing uniforms or we identified them as members of certain gangs. I mean, literally, if you see two bunches of kids fighting does that mean it's a gang fight? I don't know."

"Well, most of the educators that I've spoken with and certainly the law enforcement officials, they know who the gang bangers are, and they monitor those individuals. And if those are the people that we're trying to target here if they are involved in a gang fight in a school because the gang…" Davis, M.: "So… so, all we're doing is notifying somebody. The police are notifying the school; the school is notifying the police."

"This is notification." 09800036.doc 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Davis, M.: "Thank you. Thank you, Representative. To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. This is another Bill that is probably very good, but I'd like to see a Bill, one day, where the children are not being punished but where the children are being helped and assisted. You know, I'd like to see a Bill, one day, where a park district has to offer free classes for children. I'd like to see a Bill, one day, where there must be some kind of supportive athletic or resource material for kids rather than punishment. I get tired of these Bills attempting to punish children. But I will vote for your Bill."

"Representative Pihos."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I have better information today. And that answer I gave you was at the… the first time I called it. I withdrew it and called it a week later and I had better information. And I did give you the correct information at the time it passed, and it passed on a 9-0 vote with you abstaining." 09800036.doc 99  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Sente."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I just want to bring to this Body's attention that I applaud the Sponsor for this Bill. Last year, we passed reciprocal reporting that already allows local law enforcement to speak to the school district. And the protections were included in that Bill for certain crimes and possession of handguns was already included. It included all the schools in the state, and they had to speak to a very specific individual at the school, the items that they spoke about had to be oral, it did not penalize the student, and they, also, got the possibility of assistance within the school for a social worker. So, I wholeheartedly support this Bill."

"Representative Will Davis." 09800036.doc 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. I rise in very strong support of the Gentleman's Bill. It was mentioned earlier by another Representative about protection. Well, I don't think this Bill can be construed as anything but protecting young people in the school. It's unfortunate that when activities happen in the school, they carry over into the community, and vice versa, when things happen in the community sometimes they carry over into the school. So, if we're talking about protecting our young people, there's no reason why this information should not be shared. Again, education officials that are working every day and know the students in their schools, they know who they're affiliated with and what those affiliations are. So, I see… I see that it’s reasonable that if, again, an incident happens in the school, why not notify local law enforcement so that when school lets out maybe there's a greater presence of law enforcement in that community near the school when it happens to try to mitigate any problem. And then, vice versa, if there's something that happens in the community, why not inform local education officials including a principal and others that something happened in the community, so they can be on a higher alert the next day or the following day when those kids now come to school. So, I think what the Representative is asking for is definitely reasonable. I don't think it necessarily violates any… any privacy issues in that respect since they're just simply sharing information about an incident that happened in the community or in the school. So, again, 09800036.doc 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 I encourage everyone to support the Gentleman's Bill. Thank you."

"Representative Christian Mitchell." Mitchell, C.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Mitchell, C.: "To the Bill. I just want to commend Representative Welch on this initiative. I think it's a great example of being smarter on crime. And I'd ask to be added as a cosponsor."

"Representative Welch to close."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this is a good Bill. I think it goes to the safety and welfare of students and teachers. And I ask that the Body support this Bill."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2768 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 106 voting 'yes', 5 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2768, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3128, Representative Williams. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Williams."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill involves the restriction of custody and visitation rights for children who are conceived as a result of rape. Let me share some shocking statistics with you. Despite the unfortunate comments made last year by the now former Senator from 09800036.doc 102  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Missouri, pregnancy from rape actually occurs with significant frequency, estimates say up to 30 thousand pregnancies as a result of rape per year. Can we get some order, please?"

"Excuse me, Members of the Body, it is becoming increasingly difficult to hear. Please respect the Sponsor and quiet down so everyone can hear. Thank you."

"As I said, a significant number of pregnancies result from rape every year. And… Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And a large number of women choose to keep their children and raise them. It’s shocking to contemplate, but some of these women actually find themselves fighting with their attackers for custody of their children. Under current Illinois law, a woman who is raped can have visitation and custody privileges of her attacker restricted but only if there's been a criminal conviction. This Bill would make a small but important change to the law to provide that a woman who does not have a criminal conviction against her attacker but who can prove by clear and convincing evidence that she was raped, may seek to restrict custody and visitation rights. This is important for two reasons. First, as we all know, rape is one of the very most underreported crimes, and less than five percent of rapes result in a conviction. Second, and more significantly, this would bring the law about rape into… into line with the burden of proof that is used for other situations in civil law. For example, if a woman goes to court seeking to remove custody and visitation because her child is abused or neglected, the standard of proof is clear and convincing 09800036.doc 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 evidence. We're seeking to right this wrong. And I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Representative Wheeler."

"Representative Williams to close."

"Thank you. This Bill is supported by the Illinois Coalition Against Sexual Assault, the Illinois Attorney General, the Illinois State Bar Association, the Chicago Bar Foundation, and the Chicago Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3128 pass?" All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Fine. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3128, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2250, Representative Willis. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800036.doc 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill is to amend the current Tobacco Act to make it prohibitive for minors to purchase e-cigarettes. E-cigarettes are nicotine transporting devices and currently there is no law on the books because they weren't around when the Tobacco Act was put in. So, this is to add e-cigarettes to that and to prevent minors from being able to purchase this. And I'm willing to take any questions from the floor."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 2250 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hatcher, Hays. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2250, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2376, Representative Reboletti. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, will you please move this Bill back to Second Reading."

"Representative Reboletti."

"The Gentleman has moved for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2376. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2754, Representative Poe. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Poe."

"Representative Moffitt."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Poe to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2754 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Arroyo, Tabares. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 105 voting 'yes', 6 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2754, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1391, Representative Yingling. Out of the record. House Bill 2317, Representative Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2317 is a… is a Bill that would simply say if a county treasurer wishes to e-mail someone's property tax bill to them, they have that option; however, it must be at the discretion of the property tax owner. We had a situation in Cook County where our treasurer e-mailed property tax bills to certain individuals, not all individuals, and there were mistakes made and individuals got other people's property tax bills. Acknowledging that these are public records, it still makes the most sense for the… for the property tax owner to choose whether they get that bill via e-mail. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote." 09800036.doc 108  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Durkin."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I believe it's statewide.”

“It's in the Counties Code."

"I… I don’t know, Representative. I wouldn't want to…"

"Yes. I would say."

"I certainly would like my bill e-mailed."

"Representative Willis."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"I just have one quick question here. I see that the property owner or the taxpayer has to request in writing to get it e-mailed."

"Sure." 09800036.doc 109  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Is there a way to allow them to e-mail the request to be e-mailed, if we we’re trying to go maybe paperless. Wouldn't that be a good way to put that in there?"

"You know, Representative, it's a excellent suggestion. I… I think the county treasurer or the county collector and it's… it's the intent of the Sponsor that the collector in writing language of the statute would… would cont… contain e-mail. I certainly can work on… on in the Senate if… if they see fit to do that or we can do trailer legislation, but that's a good suggestion. I think the Bill covers that. But if you need some more clarification, we could work on that."

"Okay. Thank you. I'm going to vote for the Bill. I like it."

"Thank you."

"Representative Moffitt."

"He indicates that he will."

"Correct."

"That's…"

"Not… not that I'm aware of, Representative."

"That's not the intent of the Bill either."

"We did… We just…"

"We… Yeah. We just want to ensure that if the county collector wishes to engage in e-mail correspondence, that they have a written request on file first…"

"…from the taxpayer."

"Sure. Excellent. Yeah. Correct."

"Representative Zalewski to close."

"I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2317 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2317, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2656, Representative Senger. Out of the record. We will be returning to the Order of 09800036.doc 111  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 House Bills on Second Reading. The first being House Bill 2379, Representative Arroyo. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Third Reading. House Bill 2401, Representative Cassidy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2498, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2881, Representative Monique Davis. Out of the record. House Bill 3006, Representative Dunkin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 630, Representative Farnham. Out of the record. House Bill 3230, Representative Farnham. Out of the record. House Bill 84, Representative Franks. Out of the record. House Bill 922, Representative 09800036.doc 112  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Hurley. Out of the record. House Bill 3029, Representative Jakobsson. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2767, Representative Kifowit. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1345, Representative Manley. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Manley. Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 197, Representative Mayfield. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2647, Representative McAsey. Out of the record. House Bill 2664, Representative Schmitz. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800036.doc 113  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, House Bill 1345."

"Representative Manley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table House Amendment #3 and move to adopt #4."

"The Lady has moved to withdraw House Amendment #3. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is tabled. Representative Manley."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, I'm moving for the passage of Floor Amendment #4 of House Bill 1345. As amended, this Bill would reenact the fatal accident memorial marker program which was passed unanimously by a previous General Assembly as a pilot program. This Amendment is a technical fix that will make it identical to the language of the original Bill in those lines. And it also changes the name of the Bill to Adam's Law. I urge for the adoption of this Amendment."

Speaker Turner: "The Lady has moved for the adoption of Amendment #4 to House Bill 1345. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the 09800036.doc 114  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3388, Representative Kelly Burke. Out of the record. House Bill 2471, Representative Cassidy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3009, Representative Durkin. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2428, Representative Conroy. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Conroy."

"Thank you, Speaker. Amendment 1 of House Bill 2428 adds to the current Bill a member of the task force representing a principals' or superintendents' organization. I would appreciate an 'aye' vote." 09800036.doc 115  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2428. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3267, Representative Will Davis. Out of the record. House Bill 1532, Representative DeLuca. Out of the record. House Bill 3319, Representative Halbrook. Out of the record. House Bill 2961, Representative Drury. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Drury."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 1 to House Bill 2961 adds in opening the postconviction hearing to juveniles. It also takes care of some language in subsequent postconviction hearings who is entitled to receive them and just cleans up some other language throughout the Bill. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

Speaker Turner: "The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Amendment #1 to House Bill 2961. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'no'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk." 09800036.doc 116  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Drury."

"Floor Amendment 2 also cleans up the language in Section (f), again, cleaning up the language from the Supreme Court opinion. I ask for your 'aye' vote."

"The Gentleman moves for the adoption of Floor Amendment #2 to House Bill 2961. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2641, Representative Kosel. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Members, we'll be heading back to Third Readings. First on the list is House Bill 1138, Representative Acevedo. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Acevedo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 1138 makes it unlawful to possess wildlife or parts of wildlife that were illegally taken into the state or country of origin and then transport it to Illinois. Such possession would constitute a Class B 09800036.doc 117  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 misdemeanor which is a penalty of most violations of the Wildlife Code. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 1138 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1138, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3067, Representative Bost. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Bost."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you. I… I always worry when someone says simply. So, I got to ask some questions, if the Sponsor will yield. I think you yielded. Representative, does this change the Procurement Code in the sense that you're lowering the amount or I'm sorry, increasing the amount of what would be exempt for bidding requirements?"

"What are you changing it from and to?"

"Okay."

"What's the practice now? And then… I guess that might be easier.”

“What's the practice now and what are you trying to change?"

"They have more flexibility." 09800036.doc 119  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"All right. So, it's more like real-time pricing…"

"…like we do with energy."

"Okay. Now, is there any procedural safeguards here to make sure that we're still getting the best deal?"

"So, you'd still have the same where there couldn't be any insider dealing or…"

"…conflicts of interest."

"Okay. So, the goal would be to save money and probably to get fresher produce."

"All right. Thank you."

"Representative Dunkin."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I'm trying to understand, sort of the genesis of it, I was trying to follow your line of response 09800036.doc 120  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 at least. So, is there a particular college or university, community college that's experiencing this?"

"So, does this apply to all community colleges or just public universities… public…"

"…that receives…"

"So, this has occurred what… in some colleges in your particular district or…"

"I get… I know what the intent of the legislation is, but I'm trying to figure out, sort of, what was the genesis of this legislation."

"So, this was one college?"

"So, according to my analysis I have here, the Illinois Community College Trustees Association. So, isn't that a consortium of all the community colleges?"

"And they recommended this as a resolution?"

"Okay. And the other point is… so, in excess of 10 percent of the total contract price."

"Can you explain that to me, again?"

"I guess my mind-set when it comes to colleges or K-12 is, the kids in K-12, they… they don't have that many options there, you know, whatever is there they have to serve; whereas, in community colleges, it's not like they have a meal plan, am I right, because it's a commuter college." 09800036.doc 122  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"And they sell… they sell the product."

"So, I'm…"

"So…"

"But if… if the community colleges were to acquire the produce, it would simply allow probably 90-plus percent of them to sell to the students, correct?"

"Right. Unlike a… a elementary, secondary educational setup where, again, they have no choice and even with those… those kids who are in state universities where, again, they have a choice but they don't have a choice. In other words, if they're paying for a meal plan, they have to, you know, either take it or leave it. And so, I can see… I can see that, I guess, I didn't realize that in this particular situation where you have folks selling products to kids or to students compared to them having a meal plan where they really have no say over… too much say over what's being served to them, how this, you know, what type of goal we were headed towards or precedent in this case and/or demand for this type of legislation."

"So…"

"Sure. Well, that's… I understand the up and coming culinary component, but it's different when you have college-aged kids who are paying to receive their particular product… produce or food.”

“It's unlike, you know, kids who are high school and below where they are… they're either going to eat it or not. And…"

"Sure. So, this… this, also, goes to not only food but materials and work that involve expenditures in excess of $25 thousand to the lowest bidder. Does this… what about office supplies or other items?" 09800036.doc 124  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Only food?"

"Okay. Thank you, Sir."

"Representative Pihos."

"He indicates that he will."

"Representative Bost to close."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 3067 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Mitchell, Sommer, Zalewski. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 89 voting 'yes', 22 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3067, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1375, Representative Beiser. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Beiser." 09800036.doc 126  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an initiative of the firefighters to clean up a disparity between survivor's benefits. Currently, if a fireman dies and has a spouse, the spouse receives his pension… 50 percent of his pension and then if there's a surviving dependent child, that child gets 20 percent. But currently, also, if a child… firefighter dies without a surviving… without a surviving spouse and has a dependent minor, that dependent minor only gets 12 percent. This just brings that parity up to 20 percent. It doesn't penalize the minor child for the marital status of the firefighter."

"Seeing no debate, the Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 1375. All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Bellock. Mr. Clerk, please take the roll… record. On a count of 111 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 1375, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Representative Bost, for what reason do you seek recognition?"

"The record will reflect your request. Thank you. House Bill 733, Representative Cloonen. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Cloonen." 09800036.doc 127  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Yes, Mr. Speaker, thank you. Members of the General Assembly, this is simply a Bill to allow the large animals that are caught to be taken into cus… taken into shelter and allows them, not custody, yes, shelter, thank you, and allows them time so that they can be housed. But it, also, allows the fact that if they cannot be adopted or taken back to the owners, that they be humanely euthanized. And I urge an 'aye' vote. Are there questions?"

"Representative Bost."

"Specifically, it includes bison, cattle, swine, sheep, goats, horses, and geese, also camelids, and fowl. Yes, it even includes ducks and geese."

"It does."

"It does."

"Representative Cloonen to close."

"Yes. This is so… and I understand it's a tough vote, but because it's so expensive to house all of the animals, the county controls are not in the business of being horse farms and so, sometimes they do have to be humanely euthanized. And again, I urge an 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 733 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting 09800036.doc 128  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Bellock, Pihos. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 80 voting 'yes', 30 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 733, having received a Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2455, Representative Fortner. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Fortner."

"Representative Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"The Sponsor yields."

"Representative, didn't we see this Bill last year that, I believe, Representative Jones was carrying?"

"Has is changed since it failed 19 to 87? Is there any substantive changes in the Bill?" 09800036.doc 129  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Okay. But what the Bill is intending to do is to criminalize putting snow in the public highways from private drives?"

"But this is a crim… this would criminalize putting snow in a public highway. I just want to be clear on that."

"What's the penalty though? Isn't the penalty a criminal penalty?"

"It's a criminal penalty though."

"Okay."

"I just want to be… I understand it's the same, but we are criminalizing this behavior. Now, let's assume that I live in a… I have a rural district much of its rural and have long driveways, and let's assume that, you know, I get it plowed out in the morning and get it cleaned… and get 09800036.doc 130  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 the driveway clean. And after I get it clean, then the snowplows come on the… on the highway and absolutely clog my driveway. It's not safe for me to come from the highway back up because I can't get out now because I'm doing this myself. So then, I have to push the snow back on out and hopefully over. If someone deems it could be hazardous, would that be sanctionable? Would… Could I be arrested?"

"What… But I didn't create the hazard. I plowed out my driveway. I got up at five in the morning, but then my county didn't come until 6:30. It's time for me to take the kids to school. I'm blocked in, now, because they've closed up my drive with the snowplow, so I bring down my 4x4 and push it out again. I don't want to go to jail for that. And I… I just don't know why we would… why we would pass this kind of law."

"But what happens if the state creates the hazard? What happens if it's the government that creates the hazard because they're the ones who blocked my driveway after I cleaned it? It happens all the time. They don't pick up their plow."

"Well, what happens oftentimes is, you know, they're in a hurry, they go by a driveway, and instead of picking up the plow, they let it keep going 'cause they're on… they're on a big highway so they push it and they just fill up the drive again, at least the base of it. But I think there ought to be something written in here that the… that those that are cleaning it off have an affirmative obligation not to push snow into private driveways because that's the only reason you'd have to push it out."

"No. I don't think it's that hard. I think you know where a driveway is. I've… I buy my little green sign which has my number on it; it shows what rural route I'm at. They can find it. I know it's not convenient for them because they'd rather go at 45 miles an hour with the plow down the entire time instead of having to pick it up when they're coming to driveways, but they don't pick them up when they come to driveways."

"Okay."

"Let's…"

"No. No. Let's… Okay, I'll go with that. Let's assume they can't find the driveway then, again, the homeowner's not the one who created the hazard at no fault to their own. But they would be held to a standard that the plow operator isn’t held to…"

"…by using your terminology."

"Yeah, I know that's the problem. And that's the… that's the crux of this issue here because if they should push it out, and they don’t think it's a hazard, and let's assume they've already… they've already done it once and then the snowplow comes up and punches them in so they can't get out. So, they bring their 4x4 and push it out again, and they leave a dusting or a quarter of an inch or a half an inch. Could that be determined a hazard because it may turn into ice later or become black ice? I think the hazard determination, even though you're leaving it to the police, could mean anything."

"I would hope too."

"Well, to the Bill. And I appreciate my friend's work on this. The Bill failed last year 19 to 87, and I don't think it's any better. And I appreciate your concern, but I don't think this is the way to do it, to criminalize this kind of behavior. And I encourage a 'no' vote."

"Representative Poe."

"Representative Reboletti."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Riley."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Fortner, just… just to make it clear again, what is the penalty that this Bill is endeavoring… endeavoring to… to levy?"

"Okay. So, it's a petty offense. Wouldn't you also say that this Bill endeavors to deal with the issue of public safety, generally?"

"Thank you. Mr. Speaker, to the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, I think the opponents of the Bill, they have their particular standpoints, many of them are really reasonable, but I think that this Bill also has merit. Now if you look, at least as far as my analysis is concerned, two proponents are the Illinois Municipal League and the Illinois Association of County Engineers. I mean, these aren’t exactly folks that we would not trust. And let me remind those of us who were here last year, those freshmen who are new, you might look at that 19 to 87 as it was mentioned by Representative Franks, I have to tell you that we were in a hurry to get out of here. I think that the Bill, which is a serious Bill, the debate became a little frivolous, and people were watching the board; whereas, that might be funny, I think it took away some good points of this Bill ergo that particular result. I think that we should look at this Bill for the merits; I do think that it has merits. I'll be supporting it. Thank you."

"Representative Mayfield."

"To the Bill. I just got off the phone with a former Sponsor who is monitoring progress, Representative Jones, and he said that he did not feel this was a good Bill and is requesting everyone to vote 'no'. Thank you."

"Representative Fortner to close."

"Mr. Clerk, please take this Bill out of the record. House Bill 2918, Representative Costello. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill." 09800036.doc 137  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013

"Representative Costello."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the General Assembly. House Bill 2918 is cleanup language from a Bill that passed this chamber unanimously in May of last year. It deals with roof bolts. The manufacturers' machinery equipment tax exemption is the exemption that's used by coal and aggregate mines. This would simply add roof bolts to that exemption. And this was requested by the Department of Revenue. Thank you. And I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Seeing no debate, the Gentleman moves for the passage of House Bill 2918. All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'nay', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2019… 2918, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3190, Representative Osmond. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Osmond."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3190 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all those opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3190, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3218, Representative Crespo. Out of the record. House Bill 3175, Representative Hatcher. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Hatcher."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3175 pass?' All those in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3175, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2376, Representative Reboletti. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

Speaker Turner: "Out of the record. House Bill 2905, Representative Evans. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Evans."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2905 is a Bill to protect homeowners. I think now working with the Court of Deeds office in Cook County you've got a lot of individuals who are purposely clouding titles. I'll give you an example. You got a lot of senior citizens who… whose titles are being tampered with, thus they’re losing their properties. And when a property is passed down to children or relatives, what have you, there's all type of issues in regards to the title. So, I ask your support for this Bill."

"Representative Franks."

"I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

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"Representative, what we're trying… Let me ask, what's the genesis of this Bill?"

"I think the genesis of the Bill is to, you know, protect homeowners and to protect their titles. Clearly, as you can see, I know you're looking at the analysis, it's going to take it to a Class IV Felony…"

"Okay. Now, when you…"

"…rather than a misdemeanor. So, it's a penalty enhancement to a sense or to a degree."

"Why do we want to make a felony on what's a essentially a civil issue because when you cloud a title that's… it's… it can be rectified in civil court. For instance, if you put a lien on a property due to a foreclosure, that's a cloud on a title. And if the foreclosure was…"

"Yes."

"…inappropriately placed and you do the lis pendens, which is a lien, one can then file an action in civil court to have the lis pendens removed which is a civil action. Why would we convert what's essentially a civil action into a Class IV Felony?"

"I think, Representative, you know, when you're talking litigation or what have you, a lot of people may not be sophisticated enough to hire an attorney and go through the entire process. I think we want to tell people that… that's out there, unlawfully and intentionally doing these things, to stop doing these things because we need to protect people in our community, particularly, senior citizens, low-income individuals who’s just trying to hold on to 09800036.doc 141  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 their property and particularly for individuals in poor communities, so."

"Can you give us some examples because I'm… I'm reading what you're saying, here, and it says the unlawful clouding of a title means intentionally recording or causing the recording of a cloud on title that is not recognized as a legitimate legal theory by the courts. So, what would happen if someone filed a lis pendens in a foreclosure suit, but in… but they made a mistake and instead of doing a foreclosure it should have been a straight collection suit. Would this fall under your Class IV Felony?"

"I think you said the keyword; they made a mistake. This is intentional, unlawful crime."

"But they intentionally recorded it. I mean, they did it… they thought they were going to do a foreclosure, but instead, they said you know what, forget it, we're going to do a straight collection suit 'cause we really don't want the property. And they put the lis pendens on there and then they forgot about it because nobody showed up to court and they said forget it; I don't want the property. I'm just going to do a straight collection suit; I don't want it. Then, these people could be deemed felons."

"It is my understanding that if it's not intentional, it's not unlawful; therefore, they wouldn't fall under the circumstance that you're… or the example that you're bringing up, Representative."

"I tell you I've never filed a lien that hasn't been intentional. I mean, it's an intentional act. The only way it's going to happen is you have to physically or send 09800036.doc 142  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 someone over physically to the courthouse and have this thing recorded. I'm just concerned that we're going to be making a higher penalty for… I understand, right now, it's a misdemeanor, but don't you think that's enough. Do we really need to make felons out of people? I think enough people have enough trouble getting a job as it is."

"Yeah, but these individuals are… generally, are specifically targeting a certain group of people; people that are not able to protect themselves, people that are not financially stable. So, I think that it's necessary to send a message to those people."

"What would happen if we change this and not to make it a felony unless it was a repeated offense. This looks like it's a first-time thing. And I just… I'm very concerned that we're going to be making felons out of people who really aren't felons. I think our jails are overcrowded enough. I think we have a lot of people… it's questionable whether we're doing society any good by keeping so many there. I'd rather have people as productive members of society, earning a living, and paying taxes. So, if someone… do we really want to increase the penalty so much that someone's going to have to be in prison for more than a year? Do you really think that's fair?"

"Representative, I think it's fair. A home to some people is all they have. And if an individual is attempting to fraudually tax someone's property, I think they need to be protected. The seniors in my community need to be protected that all they have is their home. Cases like this come up all the time, talking to the Recorder of Deeds of 09800036.doc 143  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Cook County, needs to be addressed, and they need to know that it won't be tolerated."

"Well, if it…"

"I ask for your support."

"If it comes up all the time, how many people have been convicted of a misdemeanor, which is presently the law, how many people have been convicted of a misdemeanor and gone to jail for this?"

"I can get that information to you, but I don’t have that at this point."

"Well, I think we need that now because I don't know why you're trying to enhance it unless there's some type of… this is being perpetrated to everybody. Are we looking for a solution for a problem that doesn't exist?"

"I believe it's… it's definitely a problem, and I think it's necessary to send a message to those individuals."

"Well, to the Bill. I, respectfully, disagree with my friend. I know what he's trying to do. I just think there's enough felonies on the books; I don't think we need to add another one. We al… This is already a misdemeanor, and for essentially a civil action, there are remedies at both civil actions; there's remedies in chancery, and here you also have remedies in criminal court. To make this a felony, I think, is a mistake and bad public policy. I'll be voting 'no' and encourage you to do the same."

"Representative Soto."

"Thank you, Speaker. No, I… I have a question to the Sponsor. Sponsor, does this, also, include quitclaims when… 09800036.doc 144  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 when there's a… a contractor who tries to quitclaim a senior citizen's property?"

"Representative, I'm not… It does not include… No."

"No. Okay. 'Cause that's something that… something, right now, that's happening. I know that I've had some constituents come in, especially senior citizens, and some of these developers are quitclaiming their property, and then they're coming to my office, devastated, crying. You know, when it's a senior citizen, someone who's vulnerable, we really need… need to look out to them… for them. So, if there's any way that we can add quitclaim, you know, to this Bill, this is the Bill that I would be supporting 'cause this is a good Bill. So, something that maybe we can work on."

"And Representative, I… I know we're kind of going all over the place with this Bill. It's specifically catered to those individuals that are intentionally and unlawfully trying to file a claim to your… to the title of your property. So, it's… not… it's people that know what they're doing and they're going after people and they're generally going after people that are easy to be targeted and victimized."

"I think this is a good Bill. I support this Bill because it's something similar to the quitclaim. It's a very important Bill. I urge this General Assembly to support this Bill. Thank you."

"Representative Lang."

"Thank you. To the Bill. For the Body's edification, this is the Bill we voted on two weeks ago when it was mine; 09800036.doc 145  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 when the board blew up, you all remember that, and we all went home. This Bill had 110 votes when the board blew up. So, it's the same Bill just a different Sponsor. I… I heard the comments of four other speakers; let's remember a couple of things here. This is an initiative of Karen Yarbrough, who used to be one of us on this floor, she's the Cook County Recorder of Deeds. And she's seen a whole mess of inappropriate and fraudulent deeds filed and documents filed. What she's trying to do is keep people from stealing other people's homes, from putting unwarranted liens on people's property; that's what this is about. The… the person that files a document erroneously or mistakenly is protected because this Bill requires intent. To commit a felony requires intent. And so, all… all the Recorder is trying to do here, and all the Sponsor’s trying to do here, is enhance penalties for, basically, taking somebody's title and making a mess of it for their own purposes. Sometimes it… it could be a family member having a squabble with you. Sometimes it could be a creditor having a squabble with you. All we're trying to do is keep people from doing that. Doesn't keep people from filing an appropriate lien; it doesn't keep people from filing an appropriate document. This is actually a really good Bill and requires your 'aye' vote."

"Representative Reboletti."

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"I believe that the answer is deterrence. We want to send a message to those individuals that are coming after those individuals trying to take their property."

"I do not have a spec… specific number, but I know there are instances of this happening."

"Well, there are instances, Representative, and I can provide some information for you afterwards."

"And as I mentioned before, Representative, I believe it's to send a message. It is an issue; it is a concern. The Bill passed before, and I can give you some information afterwards, with specifics to make you feel a little more comfortable. But it's definitely an issue that… that needs to be addressed, that needs to be addressed with a strong message."

"And I… and I understand your concern, Representative, but I really believe that we need to send a message with this… with this particular Bill."

"As I mentioned before, I don't have a specific number for you but these cases do exist. I've heard of them in my communities throughout the years. So, I was not shocked to… to hear about it when I heard particularly with the Recorder. And I can give you incidents and specific numbers afterwards."

"Thank you, Sir."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Ladies and Gentlemen, we all know a lot about the foreclosure crisis that's happened over the last several years. This is a… this is meant to address a component of that foreclosure crisis where you have fraudulent scammers coming in and filing, as one of the former speakers mentioned, quitclaim deeds, inappropriate liens, and foreclosing on them on those people who, frankly are… are vulnerable and… and subject to these to kinds of scams. This is not going to fill up our jails. This is… this is not… not so prevalent that we're going to have thousands of people doing it, but those that are doing it, it is… it should be a felony, I think. If they're… if you're… if you're… and taking an inappropriate action and taking away somebody's home, I think the threat of a felony for… for doing that is something that we should be… that is appropriate and it's appropriate policy for the State of Illinois. I would urge an 'aye' vote."

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"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm just amazed at this legislation that it brought out a colleague of mine, my good friend, Jack Franks, who's against penalty enhancement. I'm amazed that you are arguing fervently against penalty enhancement of criminals. This must touch on a certain class of criminals maybe like lawyers or realtors or business folk. I'm… I'm… You, too, Reboletti, I'm surprised. You're against this type of penalty enhancement, but when it comes to letting certain other pieces of legislation it's like, wait a minute. Amazing. You sound like Monique Davis and Mary Flowers over the years, Jack Franks. I'm amazed. And I tell you, things certainly change. You got Mark Kirk changing his mind, and Jack Franks changing his. I'm… This is a… To the Bill. This legislation is one of the pieces of legislation that could impact someone's life for quite some time; their family, their livelihood, their future. And typically, I'm not a big penalty enhancement person, but some things make sense. When you intentionally, the operative word, when you intentionally doctor up legislation that has a delirias affect or impact on someone's property, here in our state and in our county in one of the large… the largest county of Cook, it's… it's amazing. So, I am in favor of this particular penalty enhancement because of the nature… the egregious nature and intention of this type of behavior. And I would encourage an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Durkin."

"Representative Evans to close."

"To get back to Representative Reboletti’s concern, since December, the Cook County Recorder has had 50 co… 50 complaints about this issue already. I think, Representatives, I hope you all will see that this Bill is important to protect homeowners navigating the legal system. For some it's a difficult task, for some a momentous and almost impossible. So, let's protect these people. Let's send a message that this will not be allowed. I urge your 'aye' vote."

"The question is, 'Shall House Bill 2905 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Harms. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 68 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 2905, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3063, Representative Roth. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Representative Roth."

"Seeing no debate, the question is, 'Shall House Bill 3063 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Jakobsson, Nekritz, Riley. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 88 voting 'yes', 22 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', House Bill 3063, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. On page 34 of the Calendar, under Senate Bills-Third Reading, we have Senate Bill 1515. Leader Currie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill. Mr. Clerk, please move this Bill back to Second Reading."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. I move the adoption of Amendment 2. And I'll explain the Bill on Third Reading."

"The Lady moves for the adoption of Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 1515. All those in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

Speaker Turner: "Third Reading. Senate Bill 1515, Representative Currie. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker and Members of the House. With the Amendment, the Bill does essentially two things. First, it restores the underlying language of the Bill, inadvertently removed by Amendment 1, that permits the State Treasurer to take excess money from the… the automated teller machines that it uses in state parks and state buildings and put the excess above administrative costs into the State Pension Fund. Also, today, from the unclaimed property moneys, the Treasurer is enabled to keep 2.5 million on hand to pay claims; the rest goes to the Pension Fund. Under this Amendment, he'll be able to keep more money in case more money is needed to pay the claims before sending money to the Pension Fund. In addition, the Bill, as amended, makes statutory the proposals that were agreed to at the bargaining table between AFSCME and the Governor's Office with respect to retiree health care. It basically does two 09800036.doc 154  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 things. It says that not just people who are part of the SERS system, but all retirees who are not eligible for Medicare will be entitled to opt out of the state health care system. For those who have worked for the state for 20 years or the system for 20 years, they will be given the opportunity of an incentive up to $500 a month to opt out. For those with shorter terms of services, the department will be able to establish a lower dollar amount. And second, in order to make sure that the state can quickly, efficiently move to provide a private vendor for people who are Medicare eligible, and today the state pays the excess cost of their health coverage that which isn't paid by Medicare, the contract called for finding an outside vendor who would assume liability and pay those secondary costs. What this language does is enable the activity to happen more quickly to avoid certain provisions in the Procurement Act so that the Chief Procurement Officer would work with CMS in finding a vendor in a timely fashion. COGFA would not have a 30-day approval period, but it would continue to have oversight over the… the contract itself as it would any other contract today. I know of no opposition. I'd be happy to answer your questions. And I'd appreciate your support, so we can get this show on the road."

Speaker Turner: "Seeing no debate, the question is 'Shall Senate Bill 1515 pass?' All in favor vote 'aye'; all opposed vote 'nay'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Representative Hays. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On a count of 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no', 0 voting 'present', Senate Bill 1515, 09800036.doc 155  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Returning to the Order of… Order of House Bills on Second Reading, Representative Sims, you have House Bill 2527. Mr. Clerk, please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. Mr. Clerk, what is the status of House Bill 3380?"

"Please move that Bill back to Second Reading. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Representative Mayfield, for what reason do you seek… I'm sorry. Representative Currie moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. All in favor say 'aye'; all opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the Resolutions are adopted. Representative Mayfield."

"I rise on a point of personal privilege, actually two items. For the Illinois Black Caucus Members, we will meet… meeting 30 minutes after committee today. So, 30 minutes after committee. We're pushing the meeting back. And for those of you, I mentioned yesterday that Representative Jehan Gordon-Booth that her brother had 09800036.doc 156  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 died. The Black Caucus has… we have commissioned a charter bus to go have dinner and commune with her tomorrow evening. We will be leaving the Stratton Building at 4 p.m., returning approximately around 9. The bus holds approximately 50 people. If you are interested in traveling, we will be going to Jehan Gordon's house actually to have… partake with her and her family. If you're interested, please let me or my secretary know as soon as possible. I appreciate that. Thank you."

Speaker Turner: "Thank you, Representative. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"Thank you, Members. Please be advised that substantive Amendments must be filed with the Clerk by 3 p.m. on Friday. That's substantive Amendments must be filed with the Clerk by 3 p.m. on Friday. And now, allowing perfunctory time for the Clerk, the House will… Leader 09800036.doc 157  STATE OF ILLINOIS 98th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 36th Legislative Day 4/9/2013 Currie moves that… that the House adjourn to Wednesday, April 10 at 10 a.m. All in favor say 'aye'; all those opposed say 'nay'. In the opinion of the Chair, the 'ayes' have it. And the House will stand adjourned."