Illinois House Floor Debate — April 20, 2015

"Good afternoon. The House will be in order. Members will be in their chairs. We’ll be led in prayer today by Pastor Gary Goldacker, who’s with St. Paul’s Episcopal Church in Alton. Pastor Goldacker is the guest of Representative Beiser. Members and guests are asked to refrain from starting their laptops, turn off all cell phones and rise for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Pastor Goldacker."

"Be led in the Pledge by Representative Frese."

"Roll Call for Attendance. Leader Currie. Go to Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown."

"And Leader Currie."

"Thank you, Speaker. Please let the record show that Representatives Kelly Burke, Crespo, Jones, and Manley are excused today."

"Mr. Clerk, please take the record. We have 109 Members present, and there is a quorum. Members, we’re continuing down our roll of Bills. We’ll start with Second Reading Bills. The first one is House Bill 3323, Mr. Acevedo. Mr. Acevedo. Out of the record. House Bill 494, Representative Cassidy. Representative Cassidy. Out of the record. House Bill 3289, Mr. Breen. Mr. Breen. Out of the record. House Bill 4013, Representative Feigenholtz. Feigenholtz. Out of 09900034.docx 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 the record. House Bill 3273, Mr. David Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3464, Representative Hernandez. Do you wish to move the Bill? Please read the Bill."

"Representative Hernandez on the Amendment."

"Yes. It’s just a technical change that we’re trying to insert the word ‘unlawful’ in. It would bring the Bill to an agreed Bill."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2556, Representative Jesiel. Please read the Bill."

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"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3761, Representative McAsey. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 821, Representative Mussman. Out of the record. House Bill 3123, Mr. Pritchard. Mr. Pritchard. Out of the record. House Bill 3764, Representative Scherer. Out of the record. House Bill 1453, Mr. Walsh. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Walsh on Amendment 1."

"Mr. Speaker, I'd like to withdraw Amendment 1 and adopt…"

"Amendment 1 is withdrawn. Mr. Clerk."

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"Floor Amendment #2 makes a technical change to the underlying language and it excludes construction zones and school zones in the underlying Bill. I’d ask for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'; the 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1646, Mr. Sosnowski. Out of the record. House Bill 1666, Mr. Unes. Out of the record. Returning to House Bill 1666, Mr. Unes. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Unes."

"Mr. Franks on the Amendment. No. Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 1051, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Mr. Speaker, I’d move to adopted Floor Amendment #2. It extends the sunset from 3 years to 5 to make it an agreed Bill."

"Those in favor of the Amendment will say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Moving to Third Reading Roll Calls, Ladies and Gentlemen. Third Reading Roll Calls. The first one if House Bill 3757, Mr. Andrade. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Andrade."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen. House Bill 3757 requires participating employers in the Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund to reimburse the fund if the annuitant returns to work when his or her annuity was to be suspended, if their employer is proven to have been aware the annuitant was violating return to work provisions. And that’s the important part. It’s the employer is proven. So, this Bill also would allow IMRF to weigh the evidence in cases of violation. If there's any questions."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Switches are just where they were when we 09900034.docx 6  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 left on Friday. Please record yourselves. Acevedo, Hernandez, Soto, Williams. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3669, Representative Bourne. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Bourne."

"Mr. Franks, are you still playing with your light? Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Davidsmeyer, Drury, Evans, Lilly. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. There are 108 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1382, Mr. Bradley. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bradley."

"This is a land conveyance regarding the transit district in Marion. My understanding is the requisite appraisals are in. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Franks, are you still playing? Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Unes. Please take the record. There are 108 09900034.docx 7  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3086, Mr. Bradley. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Bradley."

"Yes. This was an unintended consequence of our efforts with regards to reit, real estate and trust… investment trusts. This would allow tax-exempt… parts of tax-exempt investments to remain so and would close this particular aspect of the rights… re-write that we took place a few years ago. I'd ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Chapa LaVia, Flowers, Jesiel, Tryon. Please take the record. There are 107 voting 'yes', and 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 217, Representative Cassidy. Out of the record. House Bill 4025, Representative Conroy. Representative Conroy. Out of the record. House Bill 1081, Mr. D'Amico. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. D'Amico."

"Representative Ives."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank… thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "So, Representative, so we're clear, they have to meet… the individuals that… or groups that… that want to get a special sticker have to meet all of the requirements that are currently required for the special plate right now?"

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: Representative, I'm having some trouble understanding. What is the confusion with law enforcement with the different kinds of plates? Can you explain that to me, please?"

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. First of all, I want to thank the Sponsor very much for bringing this Bill forward. This is something I've worked on for a long time and this year we saw the opportunity and Mr. D'Amico in his role 09900034.docx 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 as chairman was able to bring this to the floor. And this is farther than we’ve ever gone. And the reason why we need it, one of the previous speakers was asking, is really it's a question of public safety in dealing with law enforcement officials. And we've… I've met with the Illinois State Police and also with our local police. It's very, very confusing because we have so many specialty plates. In an example that I had provided before was with someone might have a General Assembly plate and then get a parking ticket in the City of Chicago. There's nothing on the City of Chicago's parking tickets that would show that it's a legislative plate. So someone who had plate number 99, for instance would then get that ticket. So this is… this will… first of all, it helps our… our public safety folks and also cuts down on a lot of the confusion. As the Sponsor had said, this… all the moneys that are collected that go to the charitable organizations will still go there. So this makes perfect sense going forward. It will help our law enforcement community; it’ll still help those organizations going forward. And it's something that I want to thank the Secretary of State for working on, as well because ultimately it's a burden upon the Secretary of State's Office and they've worked closely to help draft this. So I'd encourage an 'aye' vote. I think it’s proper public policy, something that's long, long overdue. And one that I hope that everyone can support."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the prior speakers talked about the confusion of the law enforcement. One of our colleagues recently had his car towed in the City of Chicago 09900034.docx 17  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 because his number matched the number of a… somebody who had obviously some unpaid parking fines or whatever it was and one of our colleagues had a very difficult time convincing the police and getting his car back because of the confusion that occurs because of the plethora of plates that we have. So, I think if there's a… my number is 27. If there's 109 of them out there, I think that's confusing. I applaud the Sponsor. I know he's been wanting to do this for a long time. This is a really great step forward in finally ending the proliferation of these kinds of plates and starting to get a handle on it. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. D'Amico to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Golar, Wallace. Please take the record. On this question, there are 108 voting 'yes', 1 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Chair recognizes Representative Jesiel."

"The record will reflect your intention. Mr. Franks is recognized on a point of personal privilege."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that. I'd like to introduce our Pages from today, Brooke, Bailey, and Brock Burtrass are down in the front. And then I have my special helper, Beau, who's been voting for me. And as you can see it's… I've gotten much better. The green light works. Beau likes dragons, monster trucks, likes to do head butts, and he's really good at fist bumps if you see him. But I just wanted to make sure that he got introduced today and he'll be hanging with us for a little while. So, thank you. You're on TV, kid. Take a look." 09900034.docx 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Welcome. Welcome. Happy you're here. And we did notice Mr. Franks with a better voting record for the last half hour. House Bill 2542, Representative Monique Davis. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "House Bill 2542, Mr. Speaker, requires the state banks and credit unions to collect, if they already do not, and report applications received from loans given to women-owned businesses, minority-owned businesses, and small businesses. House Bill 2542 is identical to Federal Law under the Dodd- Frank Wall Street Reform Act enacted in 2011. The financial institutions are not obligated to collect and report the information because the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has not issued implementing regulations in the Federal Government. However, House Bill 2542 seeks to require the collection and reporting of this information at the state level and applies only to state banks and credit unions. If passed, the section will repeal automatically when the effective date of the federal implementation law is in place. It states that the purpose of the section is to facilitate the enforcement of fair lending laws and enable communities, governmental entities, and creditors to identify community development needs and opportunities of women-owned businesses, minority-owned businesses, and small businesses. This Bill reflects the definition used by the Federal Government. Women-owned businesses means a business that has more than 50 percent of the ownership or control held by one 09900034.docx 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 or more women and more than 50 percent of the net profit and loss belongs to more than one woman. This is identical to State Law. The minority-owned businesses means a business that… that has more than 50 percent of the ownership or control held by one or more minority individuals and more than 50 percent of the net profit and loss accruing to one or more minority individuals. Small business means the same. As small business concern as defined by the Federal Small Business Act. Mr. Speaker, I ask for a favorable vote.”

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Batinick."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Ammons."

"Thank you, Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Davis, this Bill's intent is to get at why minority businesses are not receiving loans to support their businesses, correct?" Davis, M.: "Well, actually, we're asking the banks to report to the state the loans that they give. They already collect this information. It isn't any new information they have to collect. They merely have to provide it to the state, so that we can look at the number of loans they’re giving to the people that they're getting the money from. A community bank is supported by that community."

"Correct." Davis, M.: "So they should be loaning money to the people that live in that community or those who are women, those who are minority, African American, Latino, and small-business owners."

"There is a… to the Bill. There is a report that was done on… I won't name the national bank, but there’s a federal lawsuit pending currently on the unequal practices, unfortunately, of some institutions that are not loaning money, specifically to African-American business owners. And if we look at African-American communities from the top to 09900034.docx 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 the bottom of this state, you'll probably see a similar theme. One of those themes is that you have high unemployment because you have low business involvement, development, and loans. The reason why you must do this and support this Bill, which is only asking to collect data, is so that those business owners have an opportunity ‘cause we're talking about opportunity. They should have an opportunity to go to their community banks of whom their dollars support to say we need to improve on our ability to loan to women-owned businesses, to minority-owned businesses in the community that could then turn around and hire many of those who are unemployed. All of these things are connected. We also have double-digit unemployment for African-American youth. And youth, in general, are unemployed in our communities. And this is one way to do that by growing businesses. So I believe just collecting data that's already there should be an easy task for our institutions. And I encourage an 'aye' vote for this Bill."

"Representative Flowers."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Bill. Mr. Speaker, the problem here in the State of Illinois is we have a revenue problem. We need to grow jobs. We need to create jobs so people can go to work and they can pay into the GRF funds. But because we no longer have factories like we used to, we are dependent upon people being creative and being creative, that means they need money in order to create small businesses. The banks are in business to loan people money. A lot of banks have failed because of they have played… they have played a gambling game with other people's money. Banks 09900034.docx 25  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 do not make money but they make money off the… off of our money. We, the taxpayers, we make those deposits. A lot of banks… a lot of banks get state deposit into their bank. They reap the benefit from the growth and they continue to take care of their shareholders, their shareholders. But what about we the people who make those deposits in the bank? What about ma and pa who want to send their kids to college? What about ma and pa who want to expand their restaurant so they can hire more people in the neighborhood? Banks are successful because we the people make the deposit in the banks. As a result of our deposit, once again, they take care of their shareholders while our businesses fail, our kids cannot go to college. Representative Davis is merely asking for a report. How many loans do you make to minorities? We're not asking for their balance sheet, how much they took in, but we do want to know how many. I urge an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Breen."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm going to speak to the Bill from a… from a unique perspective. I sit on the board of the largest privately owned financial institution in the United States. I'm also the chairman of the board of a community bank. I employ a lot of people through those businesses. I will be voting 'present' on this Bill because of my obvious conflict of interest. But I want you to know that I don't think that this Bill will do what the Sponsor wants it to do. 09900034.docx 28  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 The bad actors that she's talking about are not the community banks and the credit unions. Right now the community banks are regulated by the IDFPR and we have what’s known as the Community Reinvestment Act that has to be complied with, we're actually graded on it. And if you do not fulfil those obligations, then you will have problems with the regulators. We already have this. The problem that you're trying to address can be… are created not by the community banks who are the ones investing in the community, but by the larger banks that you would… some speakers have talked about, that this Bill would not regulate. This Bill would not do anything for those large banks that you are trying to punish and those that have frankly caused a lot of problems. When we had the meltdown a few years ago, it wasn't the community banks and the credit unions, it was the large Wall Street banks that almost brought the entire world to its knees. This Bill here is fraught with problems because we're not allowed to ask some of these questions when we're giving loans. A lot of loans… we are regulated by giving loans, not so much on assets anymore, but it's based on cash flow. So no matter what someone may have, it doesn't matter if they don’t have the cash flow. Some of these questions you're asking, we can't even ask. So I know how well-intentioned the Sponsor is and I appreciate your efforts, but this Bill is misguided. It's aiming at the wrong folks. We're punishing the wrong people. And it will just increase costs. We won't get anything more out of it. And it's just a Bill that we don't need. So as I said, I will be voting 'present', but it's poor public policy. I'm happy to work with the Sponsor to try to get the 09900034.docx 29  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 information that she's trying to get. This Bill will not do it. And it will punish the people who can least afford to be punished and will punish the people who did not cause any of the problems."

"Mr. Wheeler."

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, K.: "I also want to add my appreciation for the Sponsor's initiative here. I have spoken with a couple of community banks in my district. Both of whom have made it very clear to me that the regulatory environment that they are within right now is crushing to them. And adding additional regulations for almost any purpose right now is going to be unacceptable. I just want to make sure that the Sponsor understands that I, too, would like to be of help, but we need to get the bankers on board. They're under too much regulation right now. At this point, I am a 'no' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Davis to close." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and to all of the people who spoke, this Legislation does not hurt any bank. It’s information they already gather. The Frank Dodd Bill that passed in the Federal Government in 2011 is continuing to work out the implementation of this Bill. It does not recrea… do not create any new paperwork that they have to do. They merely have to report… report to the State of Illinois the number of people who are of color who apply, the number of people who are Latino who applied, the number of women who applied, and how many of them were successful in obtaining a loan. Any problem with not obtaining a loan can be worked out 09900034.docx 30  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 if people know why they're not being given the loan. One of the reasons we have a Legislature in the state is to provide answers and solutions to problems. When you go into many African-American communities, there's stores they have closed up. They’re buildings not being used because someone cannot get a loan, perhaps to open a beauty shop, perhaps to have a shoe shine place, perhaps to expand their real estate office. I've talked to some small bankers and they tell me this information is readily available and they can share this information without any additional cost. Now we know we just celebrated the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's death… death. I think if we put in place some of the thoughts and feelings that President Lincoln had that all men are created equal, that we have a right to the pursuit of happiness, then you'll find it in your heart to vote 'yes' on this Bill. Banks will survive whether the Bill passes or not. Banks will continue to make great profit and we don't object to that. But we just think when you're shutting out a number of people… a group of people who cannot reach the American dream, who cannot do what others do because they're not given equal opportunity. I beg of you… I implore you to vote 'yes' on this Bill. Give businesses a chance in our communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves, Members. DeLuca, Drury, Dunkin, Gabel, Riley, Sims. Mr. DeLuca. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 54 09900034.docx 31  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 voting 'yes', 52 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. The Chair recognizes Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Postponed Consideration, please."

"Bill will be put on the Order of Postponed Consideration. House Bill 3664, Mr. Davidsmeyer. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Davidsmeyer."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? D'Amico, Moylan. Mr. Moylan. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3237, Representative Feigenholtz. Please read the Bill."

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"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3237 is a Bill that permits various types of social media advertising and marketing to encourage a healthy business environment. I'm happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Bryant, Dunkin, Unes. Please take the record. On this question, there are 66 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no', 1 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1004, Mr. Ford. Mr. Ford. Out of the record. House Bill 4112, Representative Gordon-Booth. Representative Gordon- Booth. Out of the record. House Bill 3672, Greg Harris. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, G.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This legislation is an initiative of the Recorder of Deeds of Cook County, Karen Yarbrough, that would allow Cook County, Jo Daviess, DuPage and the other counties that have property tax… property registration fraud systems to have people sign up and also assign banks or realtors or other persons to be notified if there is action, potentially fraudulent, on their titles. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who 09900034.docx 33  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Sullivan. Please take the record. On this question, there are 107 voting 'yes', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1493, Representative Lilly. Representative Lilly. Out of the record. House Bill 4130, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you, Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 4130 is an initiative of the Department of Military Affairs in conjunction with the City of Streator. This Bill will transfer to the City of Streator the armory, which was built in 1938, was closed down a year ago, or actually this year, and its… its unit was transferred to Machesney Park. So the Department of Military Affairs has met with the City of Streator. It's their intention to use the armory building for a community center and also to put in a business incubator. And I'd appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4018, Mr. Mautino. Please read the Bill."

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"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 4018 is an initiative and it reflects an agreement between the Liquor Control Commission and the Beer Distributors of Illinois, the Hospitality Business Association and Retail Merchants. And what it says is that the… it states that nothing in the Act would authorize the Liquor Commission to regulate or exercise jurisdiction over transactions for none liquor items. This arose from the sale of juices or giving… giving equipment to stores so they could display your products. And about a year's worth of meetings went on and they were able to reach an agreement between the Liquor Control Commission and the distributors that those… that equipment could be placed and it would not be regulated by Liquor Control. Appreciate an 'aye' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Sims. Please take the record. There are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3819, Mr. Phillips. Mr. Phillips. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Phillips."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Breen. Please take the record. On this question, there are 109 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 13… Congratulations. House Bill 1380, Mr. Phelps. Mr. Phelps. Out of the record. House Bill 397, Mr. Welch. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Welch."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 397 is a Bill that gives local elected school boards the authority to authorize charter schools. Under House Bill 397, charter schools will be approved by the locally… locally elected school board and supported by the community before they are allowed to open. This Bill would remove the ability of any state entity to 09900034.docx 36  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 overturn the decision of a local school board to deny a charter school application. This initiative would create a charter school application process where only locally elected school boards and parents could decide if a charter school is good for their community. The Amendment allows a charter school applicant to appeal to the courts under judicial review, if it is believed that the application review process was not performed as outlined in the statute. This Bill when presented in committee had over 67 proponents and only 11 opponents. Some of those proponents include the IEA, School Management Alliance, LUDA, LEND, SCOPE, IHSA-DO, ED-RED, IFT, and the Chicago Teachers Union. I ask for an 'aye' vote."

"Representative Wheeler." Wheeler, B.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Wheeler, B.: "Representative, if you don't mind, could you please walk me through the process in creating a charter school?"

"Well, currently under existing law, you can apply before the local elected board and if the application is denied, you can go to the Charter School Commission and they can overturn the decision of the local school board and whether the community wants it or not they would have a charter school in their community." Wheeler, B.: "Okay. So, this is an initiative from the community they bring to the school board?"

"This is an initiative of a charter applicant, who under existing law, a charter applicant can go before the local board, and if denied, go to the Charter Commission which can overturn the local elected board." 09900034.docx 37  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 Wheeler, B.: "So, it's my understanding that most times the initiative comes from the community. If in an appeal, there… right now, current law says you can appeal through the commission. Who makes up the commission?"

"The commission is made up of nine members appointed by the Governor." Wheeler, B.: "I'm sorry. Say that again. I couldn’t hear you?"

"The commission is made up of nine members appointed by the Governor." Wheeler, B.: "And do they have any commission experience or are they just appointments from the Governor. What would you…"

"Just appointments from the Governor." Wheeler, B.: "Okay. In 2011, the bipart… there was a bipartisan support from ISBE that created the commission before ISBE performed the appeals. Do you know why the 2011 legislation was created for the commission?"

"I was not here in 2011, so I can't answer that." Wheeler, B.: "So you don’t know why ISBE no longer does it and there was bipartisan support for the commission?"

"I can surmise that it was because of some things going on in Washington. And… The creation of the Charter School Commission had something to do with the state receiving dollars, but that's just surmising and I don’t know for sure why it was turned over to the Charter School Commission." Wheeler, B.: "Okay. So, the answer still is you don't know why in 2011 there was bipartisan support for a commission to be created to take over the appeal process from ISBE?"

"I don't." 09900034.docx 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 Wheeler, B.: "So, let me ask you this. In four years can you tell me what has changed? Why… what has the commission done that they should be completely eliminated?"

"Well, first of all, Representative, this Bill does not completely eliminate a charter school… the Charter School Commission. House Bill 3…" Wheeler, B.: "Okay. Let me rephrase. Let me rephrase question."

"House Bill 397 specifically still calls for a role of the Charter School Commission." Wheeler, B.: "Let me rephrase the question then. After four years of the commission being able to overturn appeals, what's changed that we need to eliminate that order of business for the commission?"

"Well, I think what has happened in the last four years gives support for what this Bill does. There have been over 40 applications through the Charter School Commission. They've heard… they've heard three appeals. Two of those were overturned. Those two had been raided by… those two schools were raided by the FBI. But more importantly, 37 applications that were approved by local elected school boards were not considered by the Charter School Commission. That shows that local school boards get it right. The local school board that is elected by a community has gotten it right. I think in four years we have enough data to approve this Bill and allow local school boards to continue to get it right." Wheeler, B.: "So, because the commission only overturned two of the appeals in four years, and ISBE, I believe, was… well, it was per… doing the appeals, as well, they overturned two, you feel that there's no need for the appeal process?" 09900034.docx 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Well, I think it's important to know that they… they granted two to an organization that's been raided by the FBI. But I think it's more important to focus on the positive and the 37 that were approved by local elected school boards. Local boards that got it right is indicative of why this is such a good Bill." Wheeler, B.: "To the Bill. I'm suspect of the motivation for this change. I don't think that the removing of the commission from the appeal process is the best way to do things. Thank you. I urge a 'no' vote."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Sponsor yields."

"I couldn't hear your question, Representative. Can you repeat that?"

"Well, there's been numerous reports that charter schools on the whole have not been performing as well as people thought they would."

"Other than the fact that they were raided by the feds?"

"I don't have any information to say whether they are or not."

"Correct."

"Representative, when I filed this Bill, the very next day people were in my office from the charter organizations discussing this Bill. Every step of the way, I have been open and willing to make changes and be fair in this process. The Amendment that was… Amendment #3 was something that I filed. I filed after listening to numerous people about this particular Bill. House Amendment #3 specifically allows charter organization or applicants if they're denied by a school board and they don't like that decision, if there was a procedural flaw, they can go for judicial review. That is an appeals process. But there's also… I want to make it clear. 09900034.docx 41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 This Bill does not eliminate the Charter School Commission. There are still ways that charters can be approved by the Charter School Commission."

"I don't have the list of the members in front of me and I don’t know any… I don't know their backgrounds."

"But I'm going to… I'll concede to you that that's probably true."

"Well, I'm a lawyer. I've been doing it for 18 years. And I'm partial to the judicial process. I think… I think judges are honorable people. And for the most part, they get it right."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, they're not. But we can deal with that issue later."

"They are." 09900034.docx 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"It's been an experience."

"I have not… The fourth Amendment that you filed last week?"

"I have seen that Amendment."

"Representative, before you filed that Amendment last week, I met with the Governor himself. I met with Mrs. Purvis. I met with Ms. Roach. I met with numerous people in the Governor's Office in an attempt to negotiate. That's why we passed the Bill over a couple of times. I think, and a number of people believe… I've talked to colleagues around here that the Amendment that you filed is worse than my Bill. And what that Amen…"

"…what that Amendment would do is create a process where people can appeal directly to the Charter School Commission. 09900034.docx 44  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 They can grant a charter application and then the state would fund the schools at 100 percent. All that would do is lower GSA and local… local districts would receive less money. That would defeat the purpose.”

"That's not what we're trying to do here."

"I think that that says 38 local elected school boards got it right. And that data should be used to support your 'yes' vote here today."

"You said a lot there, Representative."

"And in my experience with judicial review has not been a slow convoluted process. I think the judicial review process works well. That's why I proposed it. I think this is a good Amendment and it makes for a better Bill."

"I'm sorry. Can you repeat your question?"

"I think they can do two things. In my community and in your community just a couple of weeks ago, voters went to the polls and elected individual school board members. They should be active in their communities and make sure their locally elected school boards hear their concerns, number one. Number two, if they don't, they have an opportunity under this Bill to put it on the ballot, go to referendum, let the whole community speak on it. I think that's a great way to get parents involved."

"Well, maybe we should talk about that."

"Representative Moeller."

"Thank you, Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Thank you. In regards to the Bill, what… under the current drafting, what would… what does the appeal process look like if a community group or a group of parents wanted 09900034.docx 47  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 to bring a charter school to their district and the charter was denied by their school board. Under your Bill, how does that process work?"

"Under the local… under House Bill 397…”

"Correct."

"…parents can file an application through a boards stated process. If the board denies it, they can go for a judicial review."

"Okay. So, under your proposal instead of going to the Charter School Commission, it would go to a judge to determine…"

"Correct."

"…whether or not the charter would be granted?"

"Yes."

"With this change, what is the estimated affect in terms of time for the appeal and cost to the group bringing the appeal?"

"I don't have an estimate, Representative. I can tell you in my experience as a lawyer, the judicial review proc… the judicial review process works. It hasn't taken very long at all. And I think this is a very fair compromise."

"So… but there… but there's no specific estimate in terms of if there would be an additional cost and/or time delay, if the process were to change under your Bill?"

"No."

"Okay. And you mentioned that, and it's spelled out in the Bill, that there are certain conditions in which the Charter School Commission would review an appeal under your… in your Bill. What are those conditions?" 09900034.docx 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Well, the Charter School Commission can still hear an application when a local school board fails to make a decision on a charter proposal. And there's also occasion where there's multiple school districts that like to go in together and apply for a single charter. So, when a charter is proposed jointly by two or more districts, they can go directly to the Charter School Commission. Charter School Commission still plays a role. That is why in my Bill I have not advocated for its abolition. But I believe that that's what it should be limited to."

"But it's safe to say that it would have a much more limited ability in terms of reviewing the majority of applications or appeals that would come to it, correct?"

"Yes."

"Okay. And I know also that there's a referendum. There would be a referendum requirement if… if the local school board were to reject an application. Is that after the judicial review or is that in lieu of judicial review?"

"You can do both."

"So, they would have the option?"

"Absolutely."

"Okay. And that's five percent of registered voters…"

"Yes."

"…in a community? Okay. All right. To the Bill. I have concerns about the additional burdens that this Bill would place on parents, community organizations who are trying to bring a high quality charter school to their community. I personally was involved a couple of years ago in my community in bringing a non-profit community led charter school that 09900034.docx 49  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 was rejected by the school board in my community, was appealed to the Charter School Commission, was also denied based on the merit of the application, but there was an appeals process that was available to parents and community members who sought to bring this charter school to… to my community. I'm concerned that the change in the process would be a deterrent for future applications that are made by community groups and parents that the… the conditions that have to be met would be too burdensome, the cost would be burdensome for families who want to support and bring a charter school to their community. And I think that based on the experience that I had with the charter school in Elgin that the process does work. And that there is not a need to change the way that we currently review charter schools in Illinois. I serve on the elementary school charter school commission or committee. And we are looking at ways to ensure that charters are providing high quality education to students here in Illinois and I support those efforts. But I don't believe that making it more difficult to bring high quality charters to school districts where parents are in need of options is the right approach. And therefore, I urge a 'no' vote. Thank you very much."

"Representative Sosnowski."

"Sponsor yields."

"Well, the local elected… the local school board has to publish a process that applicants must follow. And what we're trying to ensure is that the application was given a fair process. If they don't believe they were given a fair process, that is subject to judicial review."

"Yes."

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, there have been a lot of Members speaking on this issue since you gave your opening remarks. Can you just remind us exactly what you're trying accomplish here?"

"Basically, Representative, what I'm trying to do is respect and honor local elected school boards in the decisions that they make. And what House Bill 397 does is it… it does that. It empowers our locally elected school boards. If an application for a charter school is brought before them, they can approve it or reject it. And if the local school boards decision is to deny, it can be taken into court for judicial review. But their decision is their decision." Davis, W.: "So even outside of judicial review, there's still mechanisms in place before judicial review that the local commission or the Charter School Commission can authorize a charter, correct?"

"Well, the community can… they can bypass the local school board and go straight to a referendum." Davis, W.: "Yeah, right."

"And if that referendum passes, it's binding on the school district. They can do that. There's also, you know, if they 09900034.docx 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 apply and the school board just fails to respond to their application, they can go to the charter commission." Davis, W.: "Right. So, it sounds like you’re empowering the local community to make a decision that's best for them, correct?"

"Absolutely." Davis, W.: "So, what I think some Members don't quite understand in this whole debate is that particularly if the school is welcomed… if the charter school is welcomed by the district that means the district has figured out how to embrace the charter, maybe even house the charter appropriately, so that it's not an overburdening financial obligation to the district. But in situations where that's not the case, and maybe some of you don’t care about that, but if the local school district denies the charter and it’s brought online by something other than the local school district, they can get up to 80 percent of that district's funding. So for those of you who are making it sound like charters care about the school district in which they are being put in, how can they care if they're going to take 80 percent of the funding away from the regular school districts? So what do the other kids do? What are they left with? If they are only getting 20 percent of the state funding that allows them to operate as a school district? So you want to respond to that, Representative?"

"I actually want to respond to that just as you're saying 80 percent of a district’s funding?" Davis, W.: "Eighty percent."

"We just heard three weeks ago about the disaster in Lake County. The feeder school districts did not want a charter 09900034.docx 53  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 school in their community. The Charter School Commission plopped that charter, Prairie Crossing, into their district. And they received… they being the charter… received $3.1 million of the districts $3.5 million in state aid." Davis, W.: "Absolutely."

"I think that's a little bit more than 80 percent." Davis, W.: "Right. And…"

"And that's devastating to a local school district." Davis, W.: "And it appears that some people will argue that the charter commission is making what they think is the best choice for educating children in the district. And I don't think we're debating whether or not a charter school can or cannot appropriately educate a child. But when we're looking at what the impact of a charter school is in a district, 80 percent of a school's local state funding goes with the charter. Goes with them. That's automatic."

"Automatic." Davis, W.: "The local district has no fight against that. They don't have a choice but to give them 80 percent of that funding. So, again, what about the remainder of the children in the district? They're just left with… I won't say nothing, apparently there's something there, but we have to recognize that the Representative's Bill is not about trying to limit choice. I think some people would like to argue that. It's not about limiting choice. But I think, ultimately, we have to recognize in this process the impact of what that choice could mean. So in a district that's primarily reliant on state funding, their general state aid money primarily come out of that formula, 80 percent of it has to go with the charter. 09900034.docx 54  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 That's… to me, that's problematic. And we aren’t talking about that. We're just talking about those of you who think that choice is the best thing. And besides, if I'm not mistaken, charter schools were meant to be incubators, where all the great ideas were supposed to germinate out of and then, once that happened, those things were supposed to feed back into the regular school district and possibly that charter might even go away because now we're providing the best education for our young people in that district. Clearly, that doesn't happen because, I think, now charter schools are a money maker. We’ve seen where they can be profitable, we’ve seen where corporations have bought into it, and I think we've completely gotten away from what a charter school was supposed to be in the first place. So under this situation, I think the Representative is getting it right. He's not taking away choice. He's not taking away ability of a charter school to come into his district, but hopefully, he's making sure that those that want to step in that direction are doing everything possible to make sure that they are putting forth the best application. Well, making sure that in the grand scheme of things that the rest of the district does not get left behind. We have to be careful about that. We've seen evidence of that. The Representative just talked about a situation where out of 3.5, $3.1 million is going to the charter school. What about the rest of the kids, Ladies and Gentlemen? Support the Gentleman's measure."

"Representative Ives."

"Representative Golar."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Welch, I think you've done a good job in trying to make sure that we the Body understands exactly what you're doing, but I have a question.”

“Yes.”

“You actually stated that it would be up to the local school board to make that decision. Is that correct?"

"That is correct."

"Well, in Chicago, we have local school councils. How would that affect them?"

"Well, under this Bill the Chicago Public School Board would make the decision. They're a local board. They're granting charters now and they can continue to grant charters or deny charters. The local school…"

"You mean the local school board of CPS…" 09900034.docx 57  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Yes."

"…would make that decision?"

"Yes. They're making it now."

"But the commission, you stated, was doing… was making the decisions on this, not the local school board of Chicago."

"Well, the… the Chicago Public School Board is an authorizer. And under current law, if the Chicago Public School Board rejected an application they could go to the Charter Commission. Under my Bill, whatever the decision of the Chicago Public School Board is, if it's rejected, they can go to judicial review. If it's accepted, it's implemented, just like it is now."

"Well, being that Chicago is such a large… we have 400 thousand students there and we have a large amount of charters. Do you believe that there is an issue in regards to charters? The prior speaker spoke about that charter schools have shown that they do a better job than the regular public schools. Do you agree with that?"

"I think there are some charter schools that do a superb job. I've toured charter schools and some of them do a fabulous job. But the data is showing on the… on the grander scheme of things, they're not doing much better than the regular public schools."

"So, do you have any data on the schools that are doing well across the State of Illinois on charters? And if you can tell me what geographic area has the larger… the largest amount of charter schools."

"I don't have data on the schools that are performing well with me, but in regards to your second question…" 09900034.docx 58  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Let's look at your… your district, Representative."

"In my district?"

"Yes."

"We don't have any."

"You don't have any?"

"No charters in my district."

"Okay. And in the southern part of Illinois, are there any charters?"

"Well, let me answer it this way. Chicago currently has 51 active charter schools and the cap is 75. So they can have 24 more charter schools under existing law. Downstate has 14 active charter schools and the law allows 45. So there… there can be 31 more downstate charter schools."

"So, Representative, I believe, in looking at the charters, do you not agree that we need more equity in our public school system? To… I know, one of the Reps spoke and spoke about how well one school is doing in proportion to another, where in many of our schools we're only getting like 7 or 8 thousand dollars in state aid funds, whereas New Trier, I think that was the schools that was brought up and they're getting like 18 thousand per student?"

"I definitely agree that we need more equity. I think equitable funding is a major issue. I commend Representative Will Davis for leading that charge on this side of the aisle. And I certainly hope that something results on that before we leave here this Session ‘cause equitable funding is key."

"Well, I would ask the Body to support your legislation. I think that you have done a good job in terms of trying to 09900034.docx 59  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 make sure that there is an equalizer in this and that it's under local control. Thank you."

"Thank you, Representative."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Thank you, Sir. Your request is acknowledged. Representative Mayfield."

"Thank you. Does the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, as a former school board member, you know, we know that you care about children. So for anyone to say that your interest is not about the children then that would just definitely be a disservice. A couple comments were made. One of them was that this Bill would actually cost families money. Well, what is your response to that?"

"I think…"

"You know, let me answer that for you, Representative, because…"

"Please."

"…I was involved in a charter school that we were actually trying to put together in my district. And the answer is… is doesn’t cost the families anything to advocate for a charter school. Not one cent. It does cost the organization wanting to come in some money, but it doesn't cost families. What does cost families is when your taxes go up because you're trying to make up for the inequity in the school funding that is received. And you mentioned Lake County, 09900034.docx 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 specifically, and there are two charter schools in my district and a third one that's currently under review for coming in my district. So this is nothing new for me; however, I want to talk about performance because some… it was mentioned that we need competition. Well, when the local school district is outperforming the charter school, I think we have a problem. And that's currently what's happening in a lot of districts. And I do believe that when that does happen, local control should have the opportunity to step in and do something about it. They have the opportunity to make changes within the public schools that are under their jurisdiction. However, they don’t have that opportunity under the charter school and they should. And the one thing that this Body talks about constantly is local control. What this Bill does, and correct me if I'm wrong, it gives local control to… back to the school. Is that correct?"

"That’s correct."

"All right. And this Bill also defines a non… a nonpartisan objective third party that has noth… no ties to charter schools to look at and review those that are being contested, correct?"

"Yes, that's correct."

"Thank you, Representative. I think you're doing a great job. I think this Bill is the way to go. I definitely believe that local control is the answer. And I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you."

"Representative Hernandez."

"Thank you, Speaker. May the Representative yield?"

"Sponsor yields." 09900034.docx 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"So, I just have a question regarding the judicial process that you have added into your Amendment. Can you please perhaps tell me a little bit of how… how long the process in the judicial system as opposed to the commission would take?"

"You know, I don't really have a specific time estimate. I can only say that in my experience with judicial review, the process works and it's not very time consuming."

"Would you… would you say that it would be a longer process if we were to submit this to the judicial courts?"

"I don’t necessarily agree with that. I think it's possible that it would take longer going before the commission."

"Eliminating this authority from the commission, would you… what would you say the commission has left to function?"

"Well, I think the commission still functions in a very important advisory role. You know if local applicants want to go there for advice, they certainly can do that. But under this Bill, remember, the Charter School Commission still has a role in granting charters in the examples that I've given. It's not abolished. That's very important. It's not abolished. It still has a legitimate legal role."

"Yes, but it eliminates a process that gives especially to those charters that have proven to be very good quality, successful charters to cont… it eliminates that sort of possibility. To the Bill. Last Session, I had stepped up and spoke about a specific reason why I opposed this Bill and that is, I have been trying to open up a charter school within my district and this has been for five years. I have started from the very get go working with the board, the local board, 09900034.docx 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 because and what… how I believe, it shouldn’t be two separate but a complementary to the district. Charters should be working with the public school system to fill in those gaps. When I campaigned, that was the number one issue within my district, that there needed to be further work with the school district. The inequity of funding was a problem. The choices that the school board was taking to minimize the graduation credits and putting the school district at the bottom, giving them not enough competition, a lot of decision-making. So, the charter school became an option to some of the constituency within my district. And I have been fighting to make… to open that charter school. This particular charter school would only allow 750 students from a school district, District 201, that's over 8 thousand students. What would occur here, and this 750 students that the charter would take in, would be on a yearly basis. So it wouldn't start off that way. But the budget… the budget that District 201 carries is just close to $100 million budget. And we're talking about a charter that may… may possibly reach 7 million. It's just… well, you do the math. This would not be something that would really hurt in such a significant way with the school district if we had cooperation. I urge you that… to vote 'no' for the reasons of having an appeal process in place that is already working. Thank you."

"Representative Jesiel."

"Lady moves to call the previous question. Is there leave? The previous question is put. Mr. Welch to close." 09900034.docx 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I've heard the debate here today. I've worked very hard on a Bill that I think should be real easy. It should be an easy decision for every single person in this chamber. We are sent here to represent our communities, each and every community across all of our districts. House Bill 397 recognizes local school boards and the decisions they make. Local control and empowering local communities should be something that we all embrace. I've had people from the other side of aisle tell me that I should compromise more. Representative, you should take a lesson from Lincoln. Read Lincoln's Lincoln on Leadership. I've read that book three times. This Bill has compromise language in it. I have listened to every single person who came into my office to meet and talk about this Bill. I've made changes even when they wouldn’t suggest changes. And I'm willing to continue listening to people even when this Bill is over in the Senate. However, I believe the current Bill before us, as amended, is a good Bill. We were just reminded at our inauguration on January 14, that President Abraham Lincoln once said, be sure to put your feet in the right place and then stand firm. This Bill is right for Illinois. This Bill is right for your local communities. This Bill is right for your local districts. Stand firm, Republicans. Stand firm. Fight for your communities just like I'm fighting for mine. Don't be scared to do what's right. I've read the Governor's turn around proposals. Not one single mention of charter schools in the Governor's turn around proposals. Stand firm. This is the right thing to do for our local districts. Stand firm, Democrats. Fight for our districts. Stand up and stand 09900034.docx 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 tall, just like President Abraham Lincoln. Stand for our children by voting for local control. Advance Illinois by voting to allow local communities to decide what they want in their communities. Do you think what happened in Lake County was right for that community, $3.1 million out of 3.5 going to a charter school? All that's going to do… or would have done is lead to higher property taxes when the local school board has to make up for the poor decision of the Charter School Commission. Stand firm, stand firm, stand firm. We all have to stand for something or we'll fall for anything. I ask for an 'aye' vote on House Bill 397."

"Gentleman moves for the passage of the Bill. The reminder, Members, Mr. Demmer has asked for a verification. So Members will be in their chairs and vote their own switches. Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves, Members. Acevedo, Arroyo, Brown, Davidsmeyer, Dunkin, Fortner, Hays, Mitchell, Pritchard, Thapedi. Record yourselves, Members. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 61 voting 'yes', 40 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And Mr. Demmer has asked for a verification. Staff will retire to the rear of the chamber. Conversation will cease. Members will be in their chairs. Mr. Clerk, please read the Affirmative Roll."

"Mr. Demmer."

"Mr. Dunkin. Mr. Dunkin, are you in the chamber? Mr. Clerk, remove Mr. Dunkin."

"Representative Monique Davis is in the rear of the chamber. Mr. Demmer. Gentleman has concluded his verification. On this question, there are 60 voting 'yes', 40 voting 'no', 2 voting 'present'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Mr. Andrade is recognized."

"Point of per… point of personal privilege, Mr. Speaker."

"Proceed, Sir."

"I just… I want to… I came down here to speak on behalf of my constituents, but I just… I want people to really think before they move the previous question. I know there's a procedural move to call for a Roll Call vote on a procedural moment, but everyone, if I may, just indulge… entertain me. Mike, I don't believe my local community is represented because I have local community who are just residents. And when you're given a referendum, residents who are undocumented cannot vote on that referendum. If we're talking about a procedural, then we should stick to the procedural of the Bill. I just… I just wanted to express that. I just want to say that my immigrants and your immigrants are… their voice are taken away by that Bill that just passed, you know. Thank you."

"House Bill 264, Mr. Sosnowski. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Sosnowski."

"Mr. Moylan."

"Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Gentleman yields."

"Mr. Sosnowski, could you please describe for the Membership what this device is?"

"Mr. Representative, when I think of a vending machine, I think of a machine where you put in a dollar and out comes a bottle… a can of pop, a can of refreshments, a bag of potato chips, or a go to like Jewel or Dominic's and they have this box that you put in a dollar or two dollars and get a movie out. I don't think a vending machine is a place where you 09900034.docx 68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 actually have a dog and a human and they're interacting, and I don't see how you could kind of consider this a vending machine. Could you please explain to the Membership the difference? I don't see where you put a dollar slot and out comes a dog… a dog washing facility. And sometimes when you go to wash vehicles, they have the big sprayer. I mean, what do you do with the dog? Do you put a thing around its neck to hold them and then out comes this machine then you put in foam, rinse? Please explain how this thing works."

"Could you please explain to the Membership the sizes of these devices that are to be considered a vending machine?"

"Right. But would it be hard to get a human being, maybe one or two human beings, and a washing device into a machine that's twice the size of a Redbox? One of the issues I have, I have no issue with what you're trying to do, but I have an issue with calling it a vending machine. Now isn’t it true that if they put these portable units that they're not applicable to the Tax Codes, that they would not have to pay real estate taxes on these devices?"

"Why is the Licensed Beverage Association opposed to this… opposed to this Bill?"

"Right. Well, do vending machines pay real estate taxes? I don't know of any vending machine that pays real estate taxes. Generally a facility that washes dogs or does dog grooming pays some real estate taxes. My issue is that I'm saying that this company is promoting the use of this device. They're calling it a vending machine and not having to pay required real estate taxes. And to say it just comes in and plugs in is not actually ingenuous because you have to have a backflow preventer, you have to have ground fault protection. These machines are not a vending machine, especially when you have human use with electricity and water."

"Right. But facilities that have dog walk… dog washing, dog grooming, they're already in a location that have to pray… pay property taxes. And to say that this is just a unit where the water, the soapy water and used water, will go into the ground or into some place is not correct because that water has to go into some place and has to be hooked up according to the plumbing code. So, it can't just go anywhere."

"No. I would urge the Membership to please look into this more than it's described. This is not a Redbox. This device can be as long as 20 feet by 8 feet. It's certainly is not a vending. And I urge an 'aye' vote. Thank you, Mr. Representative."

"Mr. Mautino."

"Thank you. Will the Sponsor yield?”

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, in our analysis, it lists the Licensed Beverage Association as opponents. Can you tell me what that's about?"

"Okay. Thank you."

"Mr. Sosnowski to close."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Drury, Jackson, Sims, Wallace. Mr. Sims. Please take the record. On this question, there are 78 voting 'yes', 32 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2657, Representative Winger. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Winger."

"Mr. Pritchard."

"Sponsor yields." 09900034.docx 73  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields." Davis, W.: "Representative, is this an attempt to… to constrict who can be a school business official or does this open it up?"

"Representative Winger to close."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Breen, Davis, Nekritz. Representative Nekritz. Please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Members, we're going back to just a few Bills that we called already, Sponsors were off the floor. The first one, on the Order of Second Reading, is House Bill 3323, Mr. Acevedo. Out of the record. House Bill 2763, on the Order of Third Reading, Mr. Burke. Mr. Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Burke." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House Bill 2763 is very simple in its concept. It 09900034.docx 75  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 provides that surgical assistants would be compensated to the level that they are contracting for. These are surgical assistants that are so necessary in our society today. As we understand certain areas of our state don't have enough physicians, M.D.s, to second in a surgery. Surgical assistants are very highly trained professionals that actually provide a savings to the consumer as a result of there being paid at a lesser compensation than an M.D. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Kay."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Thapedi."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Leader, I noticed that one particular group that's very important to the surgical team is not mentioned in my analysis and that's the Illinois State Medical Association. Where do they stand on your Bill?" Burke, D.: "They did not weigh in on this particular piece of legislation for some reason." 09900034.docx 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"That's interesting. Do you have any reason why they would not do that? I would think that the surgeons would want to know exactly the qualifications of those members that are all in the surgical suite." Burke, D.: "Well, that would be their ultimate decision. Each surgeon would have the opportunity to either interact with that surgical assistant or avoid that person. So, as you would see, they are not opposed. So, I believe, that there's neutrality issue here."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Sullivan."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Burke to close." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a very basic issue with respect to the opportunity for individuals in our society to obtain high quality surgical care. It is the case, again, that throughout the state there are areas in our state who do not have the sufficient number of surgeons, MDs, to assistant in major surgeries. These surgical assistants have existed in our state since 2003. Again, they are very highly trained, competent individuals that our surgeons throughout the state depend on as a second in major surgeries. I would hope that either yourself or members of your family or and certainly your constituency depends so heavily on these individuals that provide this service. Again, we have a shortage in our state with medical doctors and these individuals, who for the most part come out of the military, I'd like you also know that, they are individuals who are highly trained and they should be compensated at a rate that is appropriate for the service that they provide. I'd be happy… I appreciate your support in this legislation. Thank you." 09900034.docx 81  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please record yourselves. Drury, Gordon-Booth. Gordon-Booth. Please take the record, Mr. Clerk. On this question, there are 68 voting 'yes', 42 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 494, on the Order of Second Reading, Representative Cassidy. Out of the record. House Bill 4013, on the Order of Second Reading, Representative Feigenholtz. Out of the record. House Bill 1004, on the Order of Third Reading, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford."

"Mr. Speaker, would you please move this Bill back to Second Reading? I have an Amendment to adopt."

"Mr. Clerk, please place this Bill on the Order of Second Reading and read the Bill. So, the Amendment was just filed, Mr. Ford, so this Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 1380, Mr. Phelps. Mr. Phelps. Out of the record. House Bill 1646, on the Order of Second Reading, Mr. Sosnowski. Out of the record. Ladies and Gentlemen, we're moving on to a new priority list. We're starting with Bills on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 1610, Mr. Pritchard. Please read the Bill. Excuse me, Mr. Clerk. Out of the record. House Bill 2636, Mr. Sandack. Please read the Bill." 09900034.docx 82  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Third Reading. House Bill 3404, Representative Chapa LaVia. Representative Chapa LaVia. Please read the Bill."

"That Bill will be held on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 3689, Representative Cloonen. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Cloonen on the Amendment."

"Yes, Sir. I'm sorry. I thought that that was approved during the committee."

"So, you're prep… are you prepared to move on Amendment 2?"

"Yes, we can…"

"Please proceed."

"The Amendment stipulates that the placard for the disability will be accompanied by the person who does not have a driver's license. So the driver has to be accompanied 09900034.docx 83  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 by the person who does not… who's not able to get the driver's license, in order for this to happen."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 4096, Representative Feigenholtz. Out of the record. Returning to House Bill 1610, Mr. Pritchard. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Pritchard on the Amendment."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2755, Representative Golar. Please read the Bill."

"Representative…" 09900034.docx 84  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Third Reading. House Bill 3528, Representative Hernandez. Representative Hernandez. That's the… 3528, Representative. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3512, Mr. Martwick. Mr. Martwick. Out of the record. House Bill 3810, Mr. Riley. Please read the Bill."

"Third Reading. House Bill 3841, Mr. Sims. Out of the record. House Bill 3687, Representative Wallace. Please read the Bill."

"Out of the record, Mr. Clerk. House Bill 2019, Mr. Zalewski. Please read the Bill. I'm sorry, Mr. Clerk, 2919."

"Mr. Zalewski."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill… Floor Amendment #1, I wish to adopt. It becomes the Bill. It creates the 09900034.docx 85  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 ability for judges to offer bond after 30 days in jail for a person accused of retail theft."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2474, Representative Nekritz. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Nekritz."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 2 clarifies the underlying intent of the Bill which is to require counties to have a public meeting with the opportunity for public input before a budget is adopted."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. We're moving to Third Reading Bills now, Representatives. First Bill is House Bill 2502, Mr. Burke. Dan Burke. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Burke." Burke, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. This is a matter that is strictly bookkeeping as 09900034.docx 86  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 far as I would suggest to you. It has no opposition. All parties that have been affected have signed off and approved this. Talks about reporting dates and getting in line with proper reporting provisions including charter schools. So it puts charter schools on board with the traditional public school reporting. I'd be happy to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Chapa LaVia, 09900034.docx 87  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 Sullivan, Winger. Please take the record. There are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2580, Mr. Costello. Mr. Costello. Out of the record. House Bill 4049, Mr. Cabello. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Cabello."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Ammons. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 2543, Representative Monique Davis. Out of the record. House Bill 3133, Representative Will Davis. Please read the Bill." 09900034.docx 88  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Mr. Davis." Davis, W.: "Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 3133 amends the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act to do several things. First, it codifies the practice of the Health Facilities and Services Review Board of accepting in-kind services to settle compliance matters. Further, it clarifies that the board specifies the format of the state board staff report rather than providing the forms. Thirdly, it moves a provision passed in the General Assembly requiring board members to provide their rationale when voting on items before the board meet… before them at the board meetings and specify that meeting transcripts become part of the board's final decision. Further, it clarifies that fines or sanctions applied to violations related to changes in ownership. It specifies that requests for an appearance before the board must be made within 30 days after receiving notice that a fine will be imposed. It also adds that when a facility becomes compliant with the act, fines no longer accrue. And it also does technical things related to duplicative language. I'd be more than happy to try to answer any questions."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative Bellock."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Harris." Harris, D.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question of the Sponsor."

"Sponsor yields." Harris, D.: "Representative, this Bill doesn't abolish the Illinois Health Facilities Planning and Services Review Board, does it?" Davis, W.: "No, it doesn't." Harris, D.: "Well, that's too bad. Well, I do have a serious question though. It indicates that… my analysis indicates that the board may accept in-kind services instead of or in combination with the… with the imposition of a fine. What does that mean? In-kind services? What's sort of in-kind services would they accept when they impose a fine?" Davis, W.: "Well, as I'm reading what was provided for me says the practice of the board has been to allow a non-compliant facility to provide in-kind services as full or partial payment of the facilities fine. The services provided enhance access to care for underserved populations and also promote population health in communities served by the particular facilities. In May of 2014, the Auditor General completed a performance audit and recommended that the practice of accepting in-kind services to settle compliance matters be codified in statute. And this is a response to that." Harris, D.: "Okay. Thank you very much. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, the Illinois Health Facilities Planning and Services Review Board is one of those anachronistic 09900034.docx 91  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 throwbacks to the 1970s of central planning for health care and it should probably be abolished. But in the absence of abolition, this Bill probably makes it a little bit more… a little bit more logical to the actions of the board. So, the Bill deserves a 'yes' vote. Thank you."

"Mr. Franks."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I'm not sure what this Bill does. Does it require people who are on this board to explain their votes?" Davis, W.: "Well, as I… as I stated earlier, it says requiring board members to provide their rationale on… when voting items before the board at meetings and specify that meeting transcripts become the board's final decision. According to what I was provided that this is a technical change and that the underlying language was due to an Appellate Court decision and was not controversial when passed last year."

"Why do we need legislation for someone to explain their rationale?" Davis, W.: "Well, I don't think the legislation is for them to explain… necessarily, explain their rationale, but again, the first part of the Bill is responding… is codifying certain things that were required of them. And again, I think this particular provision was relative to an Appellate Court decision, where I guess, you know, someone sued the board and this is their response to what the appellate Court said as it relates to them clarifying their rationale for decisions." 09900034.docx 92  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"I… I appreciate that. I'm going… To the Bill, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Harris had alluded to this as well. This is a vestige of, I don't know, Soviet-style… Soviet-style central organization. It's worked so well in the Communist countries. They've done such a great job of rationing goods. The only rationale for the Health Facilities Planning Board is to curtail health service in the State of Illinois. Ladies and Gentlemen, the only thing this does is to reduce competition, create monopolies, artificially drive up prices, create crises in emergency rooms. It doesn't make any sense. Every piece of empirical evidence, the Federal Government, I believe it was the Attorney General, had come out a few years ago with a study showing how this is done only to limit health care. There is no reason whatsoever to allow this entity to exist. It should be killed. We need to give it a silver bullet. We need to put a stake through its heart. A vote for this is simply voting for lipstick on a very ugly pig. This is still a very ugly pig, no matter how much you dress it up. It is terrible public policy. A vote 'yes' is condoning the continuation of this rotten, broken system. Remember people went to jail because of this committee… because of this commission. It has been terrible. And now when we're talking about having them explain their votes because they've been sued. Well, of course, they're going to get sued, and they're going to continue to get sued because their only mission is to protect monopolies and to stifle competition. If you believe in a free economy, if you believe in business, you have no business voting 'yes' for this Bill. Please vote 'no'." 09900034.docx 93  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Mr. Leitch."

"Mr. Philips."

"Gentleman yields."

"Mr. Arroyo."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Sponsor yield?"

"Sponsor yields."

"Representative, I was reading a couple other things that I had on my desk and Franks said it was… Representative Franks said it was a terrible Bill so it caught my attention. Could you explain to me what this terrible Bill is trying to do? 09900034.docx 95  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 ‘Cause usually when another Legislator say it's a terrible Bill, we have to pay attention to it and see what it's really going to do. So…" Davis, W.: "Well, I'm… I’m not sure. Well, unfortunately, you used his name in debate so I'm hesitant to say anything ‘cause I'm sure he's going to want to speak again, but nevertheless…"

"Let's just forget him." Davis, W.: "He just espoused his own opinion about this piece of legislation."

"I want to know if you're going to get my vote. I wasn't paying attention. I want you to explain to me why I should give you the vote for this. What is this doing?" Davis, W.: "Would you like me to read this Bill?"

"Yes, Sir." Davis, W.: "Okay. Very quickly then. House Bill 3133 codifies the practice of the Health Facilities Services and Review Board in accepting in-kind services to settle compliance matters. It also clarifies that the board… that the format of the state board staff report rather than providing the forms. It also moves a provision passed in the General Assembly last year requiring board members to provide their rationale when voting on items before the… before them at the board meetings and specify that meeting transcripts become a part of the board's final decision. Furthermore, it clarifies that fines or sanctions apply to violations related to changes in ownership. It specifies that requests for an appearance before the board must be made within 30 days after receiving notice that a fine will be imposed. It adds that when a facility become compliant with the Act, the fines no longer 09900034.docx 96  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 accrue. And further, it eliminates duplicative language regarding board members stating their rationales for their votes. Did that help you?"

"Yes. So you're trying to create a board that's going to oversee all of this stuff?" Davis, W.: "No, the board is already created. This is not creating a new board. This board is in existence, has been in existence, and it oversees the CON process for medical beds here in the State of Illinois."

"So based on what you're telling me, it doesn’t sound as terrible as the other person said it was?" Davis, W.: "Well, again, I offered that Representatives and the other Representative and the other Representative were simply espousing their own opinions about the efficacy of this particular board."

"Thank you."

"Mr. Dav… Excuse me. Representative Jesiel."

"Sponsor yields."

"Mr. Davis to close." Davis, W.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I appreciate all the comments about this particular Bill. And no this Bill does not eliminate this particular board even though that's what some Members would have it to do. But I would argue that under the current situation or the processes by which hospitals come into the State of Illinois that this process by this board is a good process. It creates oversaturation and over- bedding in regards to hospital beds, as well as other medical beds here in the State of Illinois. So it's a good… it's a good board. It's a good process. If Members have trouble with the manner in which the board operates, then let's work to try to clean and make the process more efficient, make it better here for the State of Illinois. But again, this particular Bill is not an attempt to eliminate that particular board. It's simply to provide some cleanup language as it relates to codifying some of the things that it's supposed 09900034.docx 98  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 to. In addition to, it adds some language requested by the Illinois Hospital Association, which removes their opposition to it. I ask for a 'yes' vote."

"Those in favor of the Gentleman's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Batinick, Bryant, Harris. Please take the record. On this question, there are 92 voting 'yes', 18 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. The Chair notes that Mr. Martwick has returned. Sir, you have two Bills on the Order of Second Reading. House Bill 3512. Do you wish to proceed on that, Sir? Please read the Bill, Mr. Clerk."

“Mr. Martwick.”

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment 1 is purely technical in nature. It corrects drafting errors. I ask for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. House Bill 2916, Mr. Martwick. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Martwick."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Floor Amendment #2 was offered by the Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability. It regard… it relates to their requirements under the CBA… PSEBA, reporting requirements. It makes some changes to that to allow them to do more accurate reporting on these pension matters. I move for its adoption."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Returning to Representative Monique Davis. House Bill 2543. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Davis." Davis, M.: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2543 amends the Children and Family Services Act. And it asks that any time a child is being placed with the Department of Children and Family Services they will make sure or check and make sure a family member, an adult, or grandparent or other relative are given first option for getting that child. And we just ask for a favorable vote. Thank you."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Record yourselves, Members. Andrade, Evans, Lilly, Mussman, Riley. 09900034.docx 100  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 Mussman. Please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 3549, Representative Fine. Please read the Bill. Out of the record. House Bill 4115, Representative Jesiel. Please read the Bill."

"Representative Jesiel."

"Those in favor of the Lady's Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Demmer, Drury, Meyer. Mr. Demmer. Please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 1119, Mr. Ford. Please read the Bill."

"Mr. Ford." 09900034.docx 101  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bill 1119 is a collaboration between two branches of government and two levels of government, Cook County and the State of Illinois. It's also a bipartisan Bill and what it does… it… we've taken this up because the Cook County Board of Commissions urges the General Assembly to pass legislation to cap the fees collected on bail bonds deposited with the Clerk of the Circuit Court. This Bill was brought to me by one of the commissioners and it's also one of our former Members, John Fritchey. I'm happy to work with him on this. And what it does is, it caps the fee collected on bail bonds deposited by the Clerk of the Circuit Clerk of Cook County only. And it puts a limit of $100 regardless to the amount of bond being collected. The amount that may be retained cannot exceed $100. The Bill's effective date will be January 1, 2016. And that’s the nature of the Bill and the full intent. I want to thank the Leader Sandack for helping with this initiative, as well. I move for an 'aye' vote."

"Mr. Sandack."

"Those in favor of the Bill will vote 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The voting is open. Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Mr. Ford. Thank you, Sir. It's a good Bill. You want to vote for it. Mr. Clerk, please take the record. On this question, there are 110 voting 'yes', 0 voting 'no'. And this Bill, having received the Constitutional Majority, is hereby declared passed. House Bill 4008, Mr. Hoffman. Please read the Bill. Mr. Hoffman, we understand you have an Amendment on the Bill. There’s a Floor Amendment on the Bill, Sir. Is that your Amendment? Let's move this to the Order of Second Reading, Mr. Clerk, and read the Bill."

"Mr. Hoffman."

"Yes, I apologize. I thought this was adopted. This is cleanup by the EPA for the Bill."

"Those in favor of the Amendment say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Amendment is adopted. Mr. Clerk."

"Third Reading. Chair recognizes Representative Gordon-Booth on a point of personal privilege."

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last Friday, I was not here because I, with my husband and the rest of my family, attended the sentencing of the gentleman that murdered our son last year. As many of you will remember, last May… May 09900034.docx 103  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 24th, my stepson was murdered in the City of Peoria and he was 22 years old. His name was Derrick Booth, Jr. And from the bottom of my heart, I want to extend a very gracious thank you to all of you in this chamber who have kept me in your prayers, who have checked on me, and checked on my family throughout this difficult season. The gentleman that murdered my son, I've known him most of my life. My husband knew him most of his life. My husband did prison ministry with his parents. My brother used to be engaged to the sister of the gentleman who murdered my son. As a matter of fact, the gentleman who murdered my son didn't even know him. But nevertheless, at a party on a Friday night, he shot my son one time in the chest and took his life at 22 years old. And I think about this process quite often as we've gone through what it means for a family to, one, lose a loved one, but then go through the judicial process and watch another family come in and have to watch their loved one be sentenced to essentially live the remainder of their life in a facility within the Department of Corrections. And there are no good outcomes. The fact that his name was Sean Walls. The fact that Sean Walls was sentenced to 50 years in prison. There was a sense that, yes, there was a gentleman off the streets in the City of Peoria who was willing to take someone else's life. But it also made me think about the decisions that I make as a Legislator, who I am as a community member, and who I am as a mother and as a parent. And I would just simply suggest that as we move forward in the process, all of the things that we do down here do affect so many people in so many ways. And I am not, absolutely not suggesting that 09900034.docx 104  STATE OF ILLINOIS 99th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 34th Legislative Day 4/20/2015 there’s a program in the world that would have turned… that would have created a different outcome for that situation, but I do know as I've walked through this entire process and really starting to actually have the opportunity to start grieving because when you are going through the judicial process and you're wanting justice for your family member, you really don't have the opportunity to truly grieve because it's… you just don't. But again, I would dare say that so many of the things that we do in this Body have such a dramatic impact on so many families, much more so than I ever knew. And so, I’d like to say that there's so many young men across this state that we are losing because their lives are being cut short to murder. They're losing their lives in the Department of Corrections or simply they just aren't productive. And I would dare say that having gone through this process has definitely given me a different level of passion and a different level of urgency to try to create some different opportunities for some… for so many of the people in our state. So, thank you, again, for your graciousness and your prayers because they actually have helped. Thank you very much."

"Thank you, Representative. You may sit, Members. Mr. Clerk, Agreed Resolutions."

"Leader Riley moves for the adoption of the Agreed Resolutions. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Mr. Clerk, committee announcements."

"And now, leaving Perfunctory time for the Clerk, Leader Mautino moves that the House stand adjourned ‘til Tuesday, April 21 at the hour of 12:30 p.m. Those in favor say 'yes'; opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. And the House does stand adjourned ‘til Tuesday, April 21 at 12:30 p.m."