Illinois Senate Floor Debate — June 14, 1990

The hour of nine-thirty havlng arrived, the Senate will please come to order. Will the Members be at their desksz and will our guests in the gallery please rise. Prayer this morning by Dr. Lewis Rawls, Tabernacle Missionary Ciurch, Chicago, Illinois. Doctor.

(Prayer given by Dr. Lewts Rawls)

Reading of the Journal, Madam Secretary.

Senate Journal of Friday, June 8, 1990.

Senator Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. I move that the Journal just read by the Secretary be appraved, unless same Senator has additions or corrections to offer. I think Senator Zito might.

Youdve heard the motion as placed by Senator Dunn. Any discussion? If not: a11 in favory indicate by saying Aye. All opposed. The Ayes have it. The motion carriesg and it is so ordered. Senator Dunn.

Thank you, Mr. President. I move that the reading and approval of the Journals of Tuesday, June 12th, and Wednesday, June 13th, in the year 1990, be postponed, pending arrival of the printed Journals.

You've heard the notion as placed by Senator Dunn. Is there any discussion? not, a1l tn favor, indicate by saying Aye. A1l opposed. The Ayes have The motion carrles, and it is so  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSPRTPT 103rd Legislatlve Day June 14# 1990 ordered. Senator Brookins, for what purpose do you arise, sir?

Thank you, Mr. President. rise on a point of personal privilege.

State your point, please.

Reverend Rawls Reverend Dr. Rawlsz Who just gave the prayer and who is Senator for the day -- who is Chaplain for the day -- if there's any single person that I ean credit for where am today and the things that have accomplished in my life - whatever they may be - should be credited to him as a mentor and the person that guided me when I was young and in my formative years. And for that I'd just like the reeords to reflect my thanks to him. He's eighty-four years old and will be eighty-five years o1d this year. have known that he has been sick and has a11 the ailments of any other person. He laid in a coma for seven days and had opportunity to eome to the hospital to visit him when he laid out his dreams and his wills to me, thinking that he would never have made it this far. That was something like twenty some years ago, now. And with that I Would like my brother and sister in here in the Senate to know what high esteem I hold this gentleman in. Thank you.

Dr. Rawls, welcome to Springfleld. ...tmachine cutoffl... All riqht. Ladies and Gentlemen, can have your atEenEion. Mr. Joe Howard has requested permission to use a video camera in the Senate Chamber for the produetion of an educational documentary. Without objection, leave is granted. Committee Reports.

Senatoz Hall: Chairman of the Committee on Appropriatians II, reports House Bill 3272 Do Pass. And House Bills numbered 3271, 2  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 3273, 3338, 3340, 3341: 3342, 3344 and 3541 Do Pass, as Amended. Senator Smleh, Chairman of the Committee on Public Hea1th, Welfare and Corrections, reports House Bills numbered 3164 and 3777 Do Pass.

Messages from the House.

A Messaqe from the House by Mr. O 'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President am direeted to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted the following joint resolution, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Joink Resolution 101. Ik is substantive. And I have a like Message on House Joint Resolution 106: which is also substantive.

Executive.

A Message from the House by Mr. O 'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has concurred with the Senate in the passage -- passage of a bill of the following title, to wit: Senate Bill 2168 with House Amendments 1 and 2. I have a like Message on Senate Bill 2231 with House Amendment senate Bi1l l00 with House Amendment 4 and SenaEe Bill 1864 with House Amendments 2 and Pardon me, and House Bk11 pardon me, and Senate Bill 1881 with House Amendment 1.

Secretary's Desk. Al1 right. Ladies and Gentlemen, we'll begin on Paqe 22 on the Qrder of House Bills 2nd Reading. We will go through that order of business one time, and then we're out of  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 here . So we will gc from Page 22 to Page 33. I 'd ask the Members who have bills on the Calendar to attempt, if they can, to move them today. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading# House Bi11 309. Senator Weaver. House Bill 493. Senator Dudycz. House Bill 950. Senator Mahar. 951. 953. Senator Kelly. 954. 1560 . Senator Hall. There has been a request for a fiscal note, Senator Hall. Top of Page 23. 1585. Senator Brookins. Read the bill # Madam Secretary, please. Top of Page 23. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill 1585. Read the bill, please.

Hause Bill 1585 . (Secretary reads title of bi11) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments .

Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

3rd Reading . 1681. Senator Dunn. Read the bill, Madam Secretary, please.

House Bill 1681 . (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readkng of the bkll. 'Phe Committee on Elementary and Secondary Education offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

Senator Dunnz on Committee M endment No . 1, sir.

Thank you, Mr. President. Commlttee M endment No. l is a bill that passed -- that was lost in the House and I believe it got lost in the Senate on a roll call, and one I added to this bill. I'd move the adoption of Amendment No. 2 -- M endment No. -- 4 = STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 Committee Amendment No. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A1l in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1's adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. House Bill 1762. Senator Madigan. Read the bill, please. SECRETARY HAWKER: House B111... PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Take it out of the record. 2272. Senator O'Daniel. Okay. 2423 is non-exempt. 2867. Senator Watson. Out of the record. 2872. Senator Netsch. Out of the record. 2875. Senator DeAngelis. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER : House Bill 2875. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARX HAWKER: Senator Dehngelis offers Amendment No . 1. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator DeAnqelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. Some of you may not be aware, but there are -- there is a maximum rate that a school district can charge. There is only one school district in the State of Illinois which has passed every referendum that is possible under 5  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 law which bas, in fact, exhausted a1l of its bonding sources. And that school distrlct is School District l63 in Park Foreste which has a -- an educational tax rate of nine dollars and thirty-three cents per hundred of assessed valuatlon. What this bill would do is would allow those school districts who have reached the maximum in a1l their funds to be given an additional flat grant of three hundred and fifty dollars per pupil in average daily attendance. Be happy to answer any questions from --

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATQR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Berman.

Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he'll yield. Senator DeAngelis.

Senatory we -- this amendment would take seven hundred and forty-two thousand dollars of General Revenue Eund and qive lt to your school district in Park Forest. Ts that correct?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: It would be given to the children in the school in that district. Yes. Not to me.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

know it's not to you, but itfs to that school district. And Would you explain again why you are asking us to do this.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Because they have exhausted a11 possible sources for revenues  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 that they are capable of generating on their own. And IIm asking that we assist themy since they have shown so much in the way of trying to take care of themselves.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman.

Well, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, rise in opposition ko this amendment. There probably isn't a school district in the State that isn't in need of additional money - especially in need of additional State money. There are school districts, such as are represented by the Senator immediately to my rear, that could probably levy a nine-dollar rate and couldn't raise enough money to teach their kids at all. No . I'm talking about East St. Louis. This -- Senator Hall's district. And East St. Louis - I think it's ironic - that East St. Louis is probably the school district that ought to be ln here with this amendment, instead of Park Forest. NoW I would suggest to the sponsor of this amendmentv that he withdraw it; come on back and Wedll 1et them raise the maxinum local tax-rate limit and 1et them go to referendum and increase their funding they think thatds necessary. But I think this would be a terrible precedent to set to give three-quarters of a million dollars to an affluent suburban school distriet just beaause there is an arbitrary limit on their local ability to raise their money. commend them for doing that, but that doesn't mean that just because khey've gotten Eo that limit that khey should then come in here and take three-quarters of a million dollars in this budget year when there's a long, long list of much more needy groups and individuals than the Park Forest School District that needs their money - needs our money - needs State dollars. Senator DeAngelis, you tried this before and you failed. I think that we ought to cause you to fail asain this time. I urge a No vote.  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator DeAngelis, to close. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, you know, Senator Berman, you're utterly amazing. This so-called affluent school district spends considerably less than what your impoverished Chicago school district spends. Their teachers are paid considerably less. These people have shown extraordinary effort on their own, and I guess, you know, one of the things that's happening in America, if you Want to go ahead and do something on your own, somebody wants to slap you around. The fact of the matter is, these people have passed every single referendum that you can pass under law. They have tried to help themselves. And the fact of the matter is, is the tax rate has gone up, Senator Berman. The value of the homes has come down because of the high tax rate. The tax rate in this community is approaching sixteen dollars per hundred. And all they 're asking for is an opportunity to give their children the type of education that they cannot provide on their own using the resources and the abilities that we in this Legislature have given them. NoW if we don't 1et them go ahead and do that, then we, in fact: have an obligation to assist them. I urge the adoption of this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted. A1l in favor, skgnify by saylng Aye. Opposed. Roll eall is requested. A1l in al1 in favor, vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wish? Have all voted who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 12 Ayes, 31 Nays, and the amendment fails. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 2899. Senator Collins. 2907. Senatar Netsch. 8 r STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislatëve Day June 14, 1990 Fiscal note's been requested. On top of Page 24 appears House Bill 3-0-2-0. Senator Brookins. Read the bill, Madam Secretary . SECRETARY HAWKER : House Bill 3020. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER : No Floor amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. House B111 3-0-2-4. Senator Savickas. 3-0-2-4. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER : House Bill 3024. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: Senator Savickas offers Amendment No. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas, Amendment No. SENATOR SAVICKAS: Yes. Mr. President and Members of the Senate, Amendment No. 1, offered by Representative McNamara -- its purpose is just to get this bill into a conference commlttee in case it's needed for -- and they get together on a financin: plan for one of our suburban communities in Cook County. At this point, the bill does absolutely nothing, and unless the financing plan can be worked ouk with the Governor's Office, it will do nothing. so I would just put the amendment on and send it back over to the House When 9  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 We Can .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A1l ln favor, signify by saying Aye. Aye. Opposed . Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 3-û-4-2. Senator Roûk. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3-0-4-2. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Rock offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Rock.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Amendment No. 1 was the one discussed ln committee and is put on at the request of the committee. This is the -- the subject matter of House Bill 3042 is the question of knoculation for measles for pos*secondary schools, and *he concern is of khe commuter students. And so this amendment says that the governing board of a postsecondary educational institution may authorize its chkef adminkstrator to except any of the following groups from such institution from the provisions of this Act. That is to say that the governing board of these institutions - like Depauly the University of Illinois - can exempt their commuter students from 10  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 the necessity or the requirement to have proof of inoculation. know of no objection. This is at the request of the U of 1. And I would move the adoption of Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 3-0-6-5. Senator Savickas. Read the billg Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3065. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Savickas offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savlckas.

Yes. Mr. President, Members of the Senate, Amendment No. l was put in at the request of the credit unions -- the Illinois Credit Union. And the purpose is to, in law, allow them to use their physical facilities for the sale of cars -- used cars: like from Hertz or Avis Rental or Budget: Whatever the case may be. They do it nowz and they feel that technically there may be a question, and they would like the laN to reflect their concern. And I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 11  STATE OF ILLINQIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 Any discussion? Senator Davidson. SENATOR DAVIDSON: Mr. President and Members of the Senate, could have yaur attention? I could -- Members of the Senate better listen to this proposed amendment. The new car and truck dealers oppose this proposed amendment, because what he's trying to do is put in a law something which is already being allowed by rule. A passage of this amendment would allow credit unions to sell vehicles, and act as a new car dealer without obtaining a license from the Secretary of State's Office. Could I have you attention over here please or have them be a little quiet, so I ean hear what I am saying? Doris... PRESIDING OFEICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me, Senator Davidson. Please continue. SENATOR DAVIDSON: Presently, the Secretary of State's Office already allows for sales by llcensed dealers to be conducted on a credit union premise. Secretary of State Office issues a supplemental license to licensed dealersr Which enables them to eonduct the sales anywhere in the State. This legislation is not necessary, 'cause credit unions are noW allowed to conduct vehicle sales, by rule, by the Secretary of State's Office. In the past, we have passed legislation prohibiting this sale by persons not licensed at dealers, it was vetoed by the Governor and we unfortunately didn't override it. Aqain, Secretary of State is allowed, by rule, for the credik unions to conduct these vehicle sales nowg and Ehis amendment absolutely is unnecessary . Youbre goin: to allow credit unions, if this would be adopted and become law, to be a new car dealer - or a car dealer without subject to license regulations provisions under the Secretary of State's Office, and that's not good. urge opposition to this amendment. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) h.  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 Any further discussion? Senator Savickas, to close.

Oh. Well, basically that is -- that is true, the question arises that since it is not in 1aw that the credit unions are concerned that there <ill be a time when the rule may be changed, and they feel more secure that this, by being in law, Would be a better benefit for the credit union and the people they serve. Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Save al1 voted who wish? Please eake the record. On this question, there are 12 Ayes, 27 Nays, and the amendment fails. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 3-0-9-0. Senator Watson. 0ut of the record. 3-1-5-3. Senator Jacobs. 0ut of the record. 3-1-6-7. Senator Fawell. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3167. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Fawell offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. This is the amendment that Was asked by  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14: 1990 the Judiciary Committee to be filed. It specifies that a satisfactory completion on an academic program while incarcerated in DOC is to be determined by the standards of the D0C 's school district. And secondly, the amendment prohibits inmates convicted of murder, Class X felonies, from getting the additional educational good conduct credits provided by the bill, as well as inmates with a prior felony conviction for which they were incarcerated in DOC.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. l be adopted. All in favory signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. l is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 3197. Senator Savickas. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3197. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Pardon me. Excuse me. Committee on Executive offers committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Committee Amendment No. 1, Senator Savickas.

Yes. I have been informed that the person that offered that - - that should be Tabled. It was drawn in error, and I Would move: at this point, that we do have another amendment to cover 14  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSIOH SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 that -- that that be Tabled.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman moves to Table Committee Amendment No. 1. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. -- Committee Amendment No. is Tabled. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Savickas offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas, Amendment No. 2.

Could you give me the number on that, Madam Secretary?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Surely.

Yes. SDSH6H3l97pam1.

MRVZ yes. Yes. This amendment relates -- creates the Forest Park Civic Center Authority and retains the provisions of the original bill pertaining to the following civic center authorikies: Macomb and Western, Boone County, Lake County, Urbana, Schuyler County and Atwood, and I Would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 2 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Demuzio.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 15  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislatkve Day June 14, 1990 Senator Demuzio.

Well, thank you, Mr. President. This amendment is identical to the Senate amendment that was eabled.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me. Excuse me.

it takes out the eminent domain provisions. It was somethîng that Was already in the bill. This simply just makes track and puts back that language. move -- move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Questlon is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 3 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Dunn. Ralph Dunn.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Dunn: Amendment No . 4.

Thank you, Mr. President. We passed the Senate Bill over to the House that had the Columbia Civic Center Authority in it, and the House held (t kn their Rules and didnlt 1et it out, and this is putting this back into House Bill 3197. I ask for a favorable support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Question shall Amendment No. 4 be adopted . All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 5 offered by Senator Savickas.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Saviekas, Amendment No. 5. 16  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990

Is that LRB86097l?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Madam Secretary, give him the LRB number. SECRETAR; HAWKER: No. The LRB ks 8609716...

6RE. Yes. Yeah. That deals with Sections 4 and on the applicatipn and the financial support forms and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Karpiel.

Yes. Mr. President. just don't have a copy of this amendment and dondt understand what does. Could we get an explanation?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Could we have your attention, please? Senator Savickas, will you please explain your amendment again?

Okay. In Sections 4 and 7 - dealing With the base sum# an applicant with a facility of -- with more than four hundred thousand square feet of exhibition space shall have a base sum of fifteen million dollars in any event, and the applicant shall be eligible to receive up to flfty percent of its base sum in the fiscal year beginning July 1st, 1990, and the balance in the fiscal year beginnins July 1st, 1991. And also, in Section 7, it deals with the total amount outstandlng at any given time not to exceed ten million dollars. And with the grants and loans by the Secretary of State, a State librarian to public libraries and library systems.

PRESIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 17  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislativç Day June 14, 199û Senator Karpkel. I i

Mr....

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) I'm sorry. Senator Saviekas.

Mr. President. There is, I think, one more amendment that's going to be offered, and wedve talked to our staff, and our staff has talked to the Republican staff, that over this weekend they were -- they are taking a1l these amendments to recodify it into one, and we will bring the bill back next week after they've gone over itz and adopt the one amendment that deals with this whole situation.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SEHATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Karpiel. Okay. Senator Keats.

Question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he'll yield.

After that crystal clear explanation of the amendment, is this increasing the bond authorization which takes a three-fifths vote? I -- 1 honestly am just not sure.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas.

Not to my knowledge.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further diseussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. 5 be adopted. A11 in favor: signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 5 is adopted. Any further amendments?

18  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslatkve Day June 14: 1990 Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator DeAngelis.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Exeuse me. Senator Luft. You're light wasn't on. didn't see it. Senator Luft, let's go back to Amendment No . He had a question on it.

I'm sorry, Mr. President, but I really donlt understand this amendment at all, the one tbat Senator Savickas offered, which would have been No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ)

5. If I understand this correctly, first of all, can you tell me how many facilities exceed the four hundred thousand square feet of exhibition space? Are we talking about one facility?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas, the question is addressed to you. Would you please repeat the questiony Senator Luft?

This applies apparently to any facility with more than four hundred thousand square feet of exhibition space. HoW many facilities or civic centers would this apply to?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas.

have no idea. mean, what -- however they design them and build them. don't know...tinaudiblel...it would apply to.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft.

The point that I am trying to make, Mr. Presidenty is this specifically for one civic center in the State of Illinois? 19  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 Secondly, if it is not, then the way I read this, and my interpretation may be subject to fault, that someone like Senator Jacobs, who has a neW civic center that will be certified July 1 of this year, Would not be able to receive the twenty million dollars that, under present law, he would have coming to him, instead only fifteen million dollars, and then if you go farther backs you can only receive ten million of that Within the fiscal year. Now I don't know Whether I'm right or wrong, but there seems to me to be a 1ot of questions in my mind, and I would hope everybody else's mind, on just exactly what wefre trying to do here, and if we eannot identify the civic centers or civic center that we are discussing in this amendment and specifically what we are trying to do, maybe we sbould reconsider or dkscuss it further.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

Yes. I guess have I would like to see if khe Senator would withdraw that for the time being and get the language to us and cleaned up . Otherwise I would ask for -- otherwise would ask for having voted on the prevailing side, ask for reconsideration of the vote by which the amendment was taken.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) We will get back to that in a minute. Senator Zito.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members. IE's apparent that this bill is going to end up in a conference committee report anyway . I'm not deliqhted with this amendment, but we have -- already the Senate has put on several amendments. think the sponsor's indicated that the bill is going to go to conference, and do what you Want with this amendment, but I -- I really don 't think it'll be in the final analysis. 20  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

ïeah. I have no qualms with what Senator Savickas is trying to do. I just want to insure - and think it was Senator Luft's opinion also - that this does not affect the current funding of the civic centers that are -- are going to be funded this year, and if we have that commitment that that's the case from Senator Savickas and that's the waY will eome out in conference, I'd be more than happy to Withdraw my notion.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas.

Well, Senator: I don't know how it is going to come out in conference committee. we have five amendments already, I'm sure that this bill will be thoroughly reviewed by not only our staff, when they draw up the next amendment next week to make sure that everythin: tracks and everything is technically correct. sure we Will have the answers in that new amendment to kechnically correct all of our tracking concernsr so I would say let's keep moving and get it going.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further amendments? Amendment No. 5 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 6 offered by Senator DeAngelis.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Amendment No. 6, Senator DeAngelis.

Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Proceed. Post haste.  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senate Amendment No. 6 permits those civic centers who have more than four hundred thousand square feet to be eligible for the twenty-million-dollar-base sum on July 1st, l990#...(inaudible)...it's almost the same -- instead of July 1, 1991. Simply changes the effective date a year earlier.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. 6 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 6 is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 7 offered by Senator Schuneman.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schuneman, Amendment No.

Thank you, Mr. President. This is another of the series of amendments that would ereate civic centers. This one has to do with the Prophetstown Civic Center, Which the Senate acted on in Senate Bill 1558, but has been held up in House Rules. So I wauld adopt -- or move adoption of the amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. 7 be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No . is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. 3214. Senator Zito. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3214. (Secretary reads title of bill) 22  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Leqislative Day June l4, 1990 2nd Reading of the bill. No eommittee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. On top of Page 25 is House Bill 3290. Senator Kelly. Out of the record. 3310. Senator Fawell. Read the billy Madam Searetary.

House Bill 3310. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Fawell offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator -- Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. This is the amendment that I said Would put on in the committeey which guarantees that there should be no tax increase in this bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Rigney.

Personal privilegee Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please proceed.

In the balcony, in fact, on b0th the Republican and Democratic side of the balcony, we have a group of Northern Illinois 4-H 'ers 23 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 Who are here on their State Citizenship Focus Program, I'd like to welcome to the Senate. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please stand and be recognized. Welcome to Springfield. Give them a niee warm welcome. Any discussion on Amendment No. 1? Question is, shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted. All those in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Fawell. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Pawell, Amendment No. 2. SENATOR FAWELL: Thank you very much. This is an amendment that says that the Forest Preserve Rangers shall have jurisdiction over the territory thak is owned, leased or licensed by the district and property over which the district has easement rights: but once they get outside of the forest preserve, they shall have to act in aid of the regular police foree in such city or village, and then shall be subject to the direction of the chief of police. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Kny dkscuzskon? The questkon ks, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No . 2 is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: No further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Leave of the Body, Senator Zito Will handle House Bill 3312. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWEER: House Bill 3312. (Secretary reads title of bill) 24  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14# 1990 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. House Bill 3318. Senator Smith. Read the bill, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3318. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator? Smkth and Brookins offer Amendment No . 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Smith, Amendment No. 1.

Thank youz Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. The amendment Would -- House Bill 3318: Amendment No. 1, retains the original bill and inserts House Bill 3483, which requires khe Department of Public Aid to negotiate a Written agreement with the Department of Corrections to implement procedures for pre-release applications and expeditious processing of requests for public assiskance fkled by persons scheduled for release from the State penal facilities. Each qualified applicant shall receive an assistance check or an emergency assistance grant within ten days of their release.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion?

25 I STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Leqislative Day June 14# 1990 I move... PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWEER: Amendment No. 2 offered by Senators Berman, Smith, Marovitz and Severns. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Berman, Amendment No. SENATOR BERMAN: Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. 2 is what we call the spousal impoverishment amendment, and what that does is to adopt, in statukory form, the present rule of the Department of Public Aid, Which provides for the maximum allowance for spouses for a person who is requiring medical aid under our Public Aid Code. Be glad to respond to any questions. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A11 in favor, slgnify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. is adopted. Any further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Luft. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Luft. SENATOR LUFT: Thank you, Mr. President. Last year during Statewide hearings, tbe Joint Committee on Welfare Reform made a proposal to have the Department of Public Aid furnish certain dental and eye services to Medicaid recipients who are participating in educating . -- educational training or employment programs, such as Project Chance. The Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago is 26  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 supporting this amendment -- yes -- and What We do with the amendment is simply require DPA to furnish the dental and eye services to Medicaid recipients, and I would move for the adoption of Amendment No. 3.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No. be adopted. A11 in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. is adopted. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 4 offered by Senator Smith.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Smith, Amendment No. 4.

Thank you, Mr. President, Ladles and Gentlemen of the Senate. This amendment merely makes the bill, as anended by Senate Amendment No. 1, 2, 3 and immedlately -- effective immediately, and I move for the adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? The question is, shall Amendment No . 4 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 4 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. House Bill 3325. Senator Maitland. Out of the record. 3337. genator Marovitz. Bklly . 3337. Out of the record. Let's go to top of Paqe No. 26. 3397. Senator Brookins. 0ut of the record. 3426, a fiscal note's been requested. Senator Savickas, on 3426. Read the billz Madam Secretary. a.otmachine cutoffl...the bill. Okay. Read the bill. 3426.

27  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 House Bill 3426. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Energy and Environment offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) On the amendment, Senator Savickas. Youfre going to have to withdraw lt.

Mr. President, I don 't have the copy of the amendment in my file, but it is -- a1l the amendment does is ask -- state that there shall be a one-year moratorium. No permit shall be issued for any hazardous waste hazardous waste incinerator until 12-31-91: so that *e, as a Legislature, can plan and have policies set on just where and in what condition we would allow these types of incinerators to be built, and I would move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Gentleman moves the adoption of the amendment. Is there any discussion? All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Senator Brookins, for what purpose do you seek recognition?

Would the -- would the maker of the amendment yield for a questkon?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Committee Amendment No. Senator Savickas moved the adoption. On that question -- indicates hefll yield. Senator Bavlckas will yield.

Yes. Thank you. Senator Savickas would you tell me what effect this Would have on the incinerator in -- in Robbins?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Savickas.

28  STATE OP ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 103rd Leqislative Day June 14, 1990 I Nane . That's a municipal waste incinerator. This deals I strictly with hazardous waste; it has nothing at a11 to do With municipal Waste.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any furkher discussion? The question is, shall Committee Amendment No . 1 be adopted. All in favor, signify by saying Aye. Opposed. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Any further amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator J.E. Joyce offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senake. Amendment No. 2 to House Bill 3426 would preclude the Illinois Finance Development Authority from funding or assisting in the funding of construction of incinerators. I have spent the better part of the last four months trying to understand this incinerator issue. and it is rare indeed When someone stands up in this Chamber and asks the Body to support legislation that precludes two hundred million dollars in State asskstance from going into his district. So it is a very difficult thing from thak perspective to do it. Anyone who would oppose this amendment would do it on the basis that, one, they would want an incinerator to be in their district; and tWo, they would Want State asskstance Eor that kncinerator. I will represent to this Chamber that there is no incinerator going to be builk in this State which w1l1 not involve a lawsuit, Which will not become highly controversial, and which will not come to the people of your distriet with a high degree of uncertainty as I 29 j ' STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 to what the health impact of that would be on those people. So I am saying to this Chamber, if you -- if you wish to avoid a1l of those problems which may 1ay around the corner for you, you will suppork Amendment No. 2 to House Bill 3-4-2-6. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. Would the sponsor yield? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he will. SENATOR JONES: Senator Joycey did I hear you say that this would preclude two hundred million dollars to -- to go into the construction of an incinerator by the Illinois Finance Authority? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce. SENKTOR J.E. JOXCE: It would do that specifically short term . It would preclude forever - as long as the legislation is in effect - from the Authority being involved in the construction -- financing the eonstruction of incinerators. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: ïeah. To the amendmenty Mr. President and Members of the -- of the Senate. I know what the sponsor's attemptin: to do, but I donlt think khis Body should be in the posture of passing legislation of this type and also spreading scare tactics. We who are in government have to make tough decisions. No one wants incinerators. No one wants our solid waste to be dumped into Waste dumps. We are in a dllemma, and as for us in this Body to 30 :  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103td Legislative Day June l4# 1990 fan the flames of fear as relate to incinerators, is something that We should not be caught in. This is a very bad amendment, because see nothing basically wrong wikh the safe - the safe incineration of solid waste. Until we, as leaders, stand up to our responsibility and stop faaling the flames as relate to the -- the disposal of solid waste, We're going to be caught in this dilemma . The -- the landfills in the Chicagoland area has about a two-year capaeity left in them. No one Wants the garbage. But khey want to take it to somewhere else. But those persons where you take don't want For us to pass a -- ta have an amendment of this nature, is just fanning flames flames of indecisiveness about -- as relate to members of government not knowing -- not qettinq the facts as relate to incineration of garbage. This is a very poor amendment. The community is not in my districtg but I am familiar with the communàty that I know the Senator's concerned with is one af the poorest communities in this State. There is nothing wrong with incineration if it is safe, but we have to stand up to our responsibilities and tell the people the truth, and not give them the unnecessary rhetoric to make them fear a disposal of solid Waste. This amendment should be defeated.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schaffer.

I don't think many of us are focusing. Would everybody on the Floor who undersEands what this issue is al1 about, please raise your hand? A11 right. That's nine. The other forty-some of us would like to know what youdre tryin: to do, Senator. Is this aimed at a particular thing in your district? Is it a Statewide thing? Are we forever closing the door on incineration? 0r, you know, what are We doing? The other forty of us that are not focused on this issue would appreciate some specific rationales 31  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslative Day June 14, 1990 and explanations of What's going on here.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce.

Senator Schaffer, if you were kistening to me, would you raise your hand? Well, raise your hand. I am trying to explain, from every possible perspective, why I put this in, and I am trying to rationalize to you Why you should support this amendment. If you have an incinerator proposed for your distriet, I assure you it Wi1l not be constructed without a lawsuit. I assure you, after lkstening to experts for four months, that there is no way you are goinq to come away convinced that that is safe, and Will not have an impact on the health of the people of your district. And I assure you that it will be highly controversial. Given that -- given those premises, I cannot understand why the State should choose to assist in the financing of something like that. If, in fact, a project like that goes forward, then it seems to me that it should be financed in a eonventional manner. There are far less controverskal, far more deserving, and far easily understood projects that can use State dollars than something such as this. :ow I could give you specifics if we want to talk the -- about the Robertson Center. I can tell you about representations that this Was state-of-the-art, the -- the -- the -- the finest technology qoing into this, and then two or three months subsequent to that representation, find out from the Federal Government that there Was technology available that was significantly reduced -- nitrous oxkde emissions that was being kgnored. We can go on and on. There's no one in this Chapber Who has who has worked as hard for Robbins and has been as concerned about their eeonomic situation. The overwhelming majarity of the people of Robbins are against this. That's to the specifàc. Generally, would supposez Jack, where you eome from, you would say, 'IThis is great. 32  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislatkve Day June 14: 1990 Two hundred miltion dollars of State money is not going up into -- into Cook County.'' That alone should merit your support, given your historical approach to -- to this -- to these matters.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Welch.

My understanding is, this amendment applies to both municipal Waste incinerators and hazardous Waste incinerators?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce.

To all.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Welch.

Well, I think we should make a distinction here when we talk about incinerators, and the distinction should be between hazardous waste incinerators and municipal Waste incinerators. think this is a good amendment if it applked only to hazardous Waste ineinerators. think those should be paid for by individual companies. They should be responsible for bearing that burden. But when it comes to munieipal waste incinerators, what we have rkght now is a group of counties meeting to form plans to determine how to get rld of their waste. And one of the options they have is incineration. If we take aWay financing from the State, What's going to happen is it's going ko make tha: option less viable, less of the priority in their mind. In addition, if We make ït more expensive to build municipal waste incinerators, what I think is going to happen is the cost for the additional financing will be borne by the residents who put your garbage out by your curb. It's not going to be assumed or absorbed by the company . It's going to be passed on to individual consumers,  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14: 1990 i . individual residences. So what I'm afraid will happen - and I'm not raising this ko scare anybody - but I would think that those counties that have a property tax that includes your garbage pickup, that Would have to be raised to pay any additional cost. In the State we have a priority set in the Environmental Protection Act; we set five priorities. And reeently we a11 received, I think, a copy of the green papers that were issued on -- on Earth Day, setting forth environmental issues on sixteen differenk subjects, and in that group of papers there's one particular paper on solid waste. And in that: the environmentalists have said that they take credàt Cor setting the pciorities in khe State of Illinols for hoW we dispose of waste. And let me tell you vhak those five priorities are, because We still have those priorities. Number one is reduction of waste at the source. If we don't produce it, we don't have a problem. The second priority, that a1l of us supported and voted for, is recycling waste or reusing it. The third priority in the State is incineration for energy. If you take garbage, burn ity create enerqyz at least you get something back a: opposed Eo putting the same garbage in a landfkLl aad letting kt sit there forever and nobody qets anything. The fourth priority is incineration without enerqy being produced, and our fifth and last priority is landfilling. If the alternative were incinerating our garbage or reeycling ite I would be for reeycling and every one of us here would be for recycling. At this point in time we don't have the technology to do that. The alternative to incineration of munïcipal waste right now is landfillins. And while the questions on incineration are unknown as to what effect they have on the environment, we do know what effect landfills have on the environment, and the effect is they al1 leak. The State EPA has said so. Any one of you who's had a landfill in your distriet knows that's the truth. They all leak. What we have is the known 34 1 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslative Day June l4, 1990 against the unknown. As far as what Senator Joyce said about monitoring, there is - and I think that there should be a provision put in here that any municipal or any hazardous waste incineration has to have a monitor directly connected to the State EPA. We shouldn't have to pay to have somebody out at the incinerator twenty-four hours a day. They can build monitors to monitor the chemicals that we are worried about, and have that information directly piped into the EPA on a television screen that they can have somebody watch. The the incineration question is one that we haven't really Wrestled with in the past. But what we have done three years ago, is allow each county to decide what their priorities are. I think this may hinder them in deckding on those priorkties. If were only limited to hazardous waste, it'd support it, but without limiting it solely to that, really don't think this is a good idea. Thank you. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Lady from Lake, Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Would the sponsor of the amendment yield to a question, please? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce, indicates he will. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Senator Joyce, I'm a little bit confused, because I have kind of a dual personality here, being a Mayor and a Senatok. Now does your amendmen: does your amendment prohibik *he incineration of hazardous wastes as well as municipal wastes? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce. SENATOR J.E . JOYCE: My amendment prohibits the financing, by the Authority, of incinerators. A11 incinerators. 35 I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14# 1990 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Would you consider Withdrawing your amendment, or putting an amendment on that would apply only to hazardous wastes? PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce. SENATOR J.E. JOYCE: I think already answered that question. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: I1m sorryj but t dkdn't hear your answer, sir. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce. SENATOR J.E. JOXCE: No. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ: Senator Geo-Karis. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Well, we don't want to increase landfills Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate, and the alternative might be incineration, and I don't think we should go ahead with this amendment. In fact, this is one of the few times that I really coneur with Senator Welch's argument. I think it should have been separated - hazardous waste from munieipal waste - and I can see Why We wouldn't want to fund on the hazardous Waste, but I'm afraid that. from my experience as a Mayor and well as a Senator, I can tell you right now, there has to be some alternative to landfills and yet, what are we doing about it? I've had calls from septic tank operators saying, ''Where are we going to put our garbage? If we don't have a place to put it or do something with it, Wedre g/ing to stlek it in culverts, we're goin: to stick in sewers and what-have-you.'' I mean what's the alternative? 36  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY j REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT I 103rd Legislative Day June l4# 1990 have to, regrettably, speak against this amendment, and stated my conflict already.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Brookins.

Thank you, Mr. President. I rise in opposition to this amendment. This unfairly hurts a project that enjoys strong local support -- local government support. There's no basis for it. We should not pick and choose amonq the projects that we otherwise qualify for financing, and certainly create exemptions merely because one of us may not like a particular project. So we need to defeat this. have talked with IPA Isic>; they assured me that this will monitored closely. The -- the -- the -- the mayor of the town where this incinerator is goin: -- I have talked WiEh her to great lengths. It is -- seems to be the only salvationy and therefore I ask that this amendment be defeated.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jacobs.

Thank you, Mr. President. As much as I respect the the sponsor of this amendment, and I understand what he's tryinq to do, I think as a downstater we have to look at it from the standpoint and - and it's been alluded to here quite often - and that is, you know, should we be closing the door on incineration as an alternative. The -- the commission is -- mean the Energy and Environment Committee is currently looking at Ehe possibility of -- of what we should be doing with incineration in a number of other areas, and I think that we should see the outcome of that study before We -- we -- we try to introduce legislation such as this. Because I would agree with Senator Welch, that if any of these incinerators are -- are going to be built, especially for municipal waste, at that particular point in time, we are going to 37 r STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 have a -- a distinct need in downstate in -- in order to be able to help fund these. So# I I understand what the sponsor is trying to do, and -- and sympathize with What he is trying to do, but I think just may be a little premature, and I ask for a No vote on this. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: ïeah. Thank you, Mr. President. Question of the sponsor. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates he'll yield. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Senator Joyce, is the State Representative in whom -- in whose district the incinerator is going to be in, that youdre trying to stop, in support of this amendment? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce. SENATOR J.E. JOYCE: The Representattve McNamara is supporting this. Representative Keane, Who -- Who is the other Representative in my district, is opposed to but I never knew that to be the criteria for voting Yes or No on anything in this Chamber. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, Ilm not suqgesting it is, because I felt if there was any validity to your sugqestiony it would be based on the fact that someone who represents the area has a preference. It's my knowledgez howeverz that the person Who is the representative doeG not support this amendment. But to the amendment itself, first of all, 1et me clear up. This bill -- or this Agency that youdre tryinq to prohibit from doing this does not use State funds. So 38  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1û3rd Legislattve Day June 1990 We ought to correct the record, that we are not, in fact, prohibiting the use of State funds, because there are no State funds regardless. The seeond thing is, I think What's going to occur here, is this passes, is youlre going to try to stop someone from getting a cold by applying a tourniquet to their neck, so they don 't breathe. The fact is We do have need for -- as Senator Welch - and he and I generally don't find ourselves on the same side of an issue environmentally - but he is absolutely correct. Would suggest that if you have some serious concerns with this incinerator being near the area that you represent, that you note in fact, punish the entire State in order to get that resolved.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) The Lady from Cook: Senator Collins.

I agree kith Senator DeAngelis. think Senator Brookins basically expressed my concerns that this particular amendment really is targeted at a very specific incineratore and that area is in very dire need of some more tax revenue. As a matter of fact: unless We do something to support that local government is going to be -- going to be looklng at somethinq on the same level as we are in East St. Louis. While I can appreciate the -- the sponsor and the Representative from that district trying to respond to the Wishes of some of the people out there, but I think we have a responsibility to be practical here. I think the EPA has basically given us some -- some assurance that there is no danger, and it's part of our responsibility to help to educate the public to the reality of what exists. Those fears are natural, but if we are concerned, and doin: our job, then what we will do is try and explain to the people out there that there is no danger and that there will be closely -- that these projects will be closely monitored. Most certainly We have to do something with our garbage, and this is a way to do that and at the same time 39  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 provide to boost -- the -- the local economy of that of the Village of Robbins, and for that reason, I think we should defeat this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce, to close.

Well, very briefly. First of all, I'd like to address Senator Dehngelis, Who likes to put out the his analogy on a tourniquet. Heyy Aldo, got a message for you. Listen up. Your your -- your analogy on a tourniquet, you know, it was real cute. You know shutting off someonels air supply to cure their coldz buty in fact, you know, you are tampering with this -- this incinerator is tampering with the supply of air to someone. As far as -- as State monies being involved or not being involved, you know, youdre bordering close -- that -- that's close to being almost fraudulent with us. State monies are involved when we start talking about putting out two hundred million dollars. Who's payin: the salaries of the people that are administerin: this whole process? Come off HoW about Bechtel. Bechtel, Aldo. Bechtel. Did you ever hear of him? Bechtel, okay . That's Who's building this. So# you knowr you vote whatever way you want to vote. If I came to you, and I said I want ten million dollars for my district or twenty milllon, or I have a project that is important for health or education or welfare or the black people of Robbins or whatever, and I wa'nt you to support ten-million-dollar assistance, such as wedre talking about herey two hundred million dollars. You would put me up against the wall and extract everything you could possibly extract from me to do this. But you are gratuitously standin: up here today and makin: this pitch. You know, up or down, I ask for a -- for an Aye vote on -- on this amendment.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 40  I STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Well, on a point of personal privilege. Senator Joyce, I voted whence a representative from a district did not want an incinerator breakupp beeause that area didn't want it. In this instance, this community wants this incinerator. Okay? And -- and -- wait a minute. Let me finish mine. Just a second. And the representative from that districtz am led to believey wants it also. Now, I said to you: in addition to that, also represent the south suburbans. And the south suburban mayors and managers is working on a plan that might, in fact, involve incineration. Now you 're askin: me to turn around and oppose al1 the efforts that are going on voluntarily by people, because you happen to have an objection to that. And I said to you, if you have an objectionz narrow your objections to that particular thing, but you 're tryin: to kill every incinerator in the State with your proposal. And I also Want to correct you, that IDFA does not take a single dollar of State money for administrative costs or otherwise. They're, in fact, a free-standing: self-supporting, income-generating agency. And 'the monies -- as the chairman of the audit commission, can tell you right ncw: I know that. Okay? But the point ls: if you have an objection, and I -- if you Wanted to kill that incinerator that's in your district, be my guest, and I would probably support you. But what you 're doing right here is youdre killing the entire State, as senator Welch said. And youlre also killing *he plans for the south suburban area, who in fact, right now, is presenting a plan very shortly for handling the waste of that area. And that's what my objection is. And I'm not personalizing it, please.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyee.

41  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 Well, you know, we can beat this thing and beat this thing. You never went to one meetingz Aldo. You donlt know what the people out there in that district out there are for or against. You knowy there's all kinds of other things operatin: here, things that you well know about and are better left unsaid in this Chamber. So vote it up or down.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted. A11 in favor, vote Aye. Al1 opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who wish? Have all voted Who wish? Please take the record. On this question, there are 11 Ayes, 32 Nays. The amendment fails. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator J.E. Joyce.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Joyce withdraws the amendment. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Kustra.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Kustra, Amendment No. 3.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senake. I introduced this amendment because I was convinced that it would come to the assistance of the citizens of the Bedford Park area in kheir fight against the proposed incinerator. sinee that time I have discussed this matter with the sponsors, Senators Savickas and and Raica. They have convinced me that in order to move this bill as expeditiously as possible, out of the Senate and over - - back to the House, they should do so without amendments that miqht cloud the issue and alonq the way, do harm to the bill. That's the last thing I would want to do and so, at their urging, 42  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4z 1990 I witbdraw this amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Gentleman Withdraws Amendment No. 3. Any further amendments?

Amendment No. 3 offered by Senator Karpiel.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Karpiel.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. to House Bill 3426 basically says that in counties with the population of a hundred thousand or morez a sanitary landfill or ineinerator designed to accept munieipal waste eannot receive a permit, l'unless that county has adopted a solid waste management plan, under the Solid Waste Plannin: and Recycling Act.'l The purpose of this bill is to, first of all, to perhaps encourage the eounties to hurry up with their plans, because there are several incinerators as we have heard, there are landfills being proposed, and I think that the counties should be getting about the business of passing -- of getting their plans in place before we willy-nilly go siting other landfills, and I ask for an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Welch.

I have a question of the sponsor.

PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Indicates she'll yield.

Senator Karpiel: if a -- if a county comes back With a waste management plan that saysy ' 1We donft want incineratorsz' Would your amendment prohibit one of the towns or private corporation from trying to get a permit within that county for an incinerator? Would that would that be barred by the County Waste Management 43  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslative Day June 14, 1990 Plan?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Karpiel.

Well I don't know the specifics of the -- of the Act, but donft know that the county plan -- a county plan that -- that was worded that way, or included thatz would be acceptable by the Aqency. Let me just read the rest of this amendment. It says that the solid kaste management plan ''undet the Solid Waste Planning and Recycling Act and that plan has been reviewed by the Agency and found to comply with the requirements of that Act.'' So I don't know if that Act would allow a county to have that type of a plan. They -- the county plan would have to be, you knowy acceptable under the -- under the Act, and I don't think that that situation could occur. END OF TAPE TAPE 2

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Welch.

Pending -- if -- if a county does not have a plan, they cannot burn -- they cannot build an inclnerator under this amendment. That -- that's basically what you are tryëng to do . Is that -- is that right?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Karpiel.

That's correct. They cannot -- what it says is - it has to do 44  STATE 0F ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1:3:d Legislative Day June l4, 1990 ' with municipal waste by the way, this has nothing to do with the New Bedford situation. ''The Agency shall not issue any permit for the development or construction, in any county''of a -- ''with a population of a hundred thousand or more, of a sanitary landfill or incinerator designed to accept municipal waste, unless that county has adopted a solid waste...plan under the Solid Waste Planning and Recycling Act, and that plan has been reviewed by the Agency and found to comply with the requirements of that Act.'' I think that there are a lot of counties that are plannin: to slte landfills before they have their plan in place. And I think it only fair to the people of those counties to at least know that Ehey -- that their county has a plan - to have perhaps seen it, the municipalities are aware of it, and they have somethinq to hang their possible objections on: or their approval on. But I do think that -- that since these plans are due to go into effect in March of next year, that this might encourage them to hurry up and get it done before they go ahead and site another landfill or incinerator in their county.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussicn? Senator Welch.

IIm not sure that's going to have that effect. If a county -- let's say Lasalle County, where I'm from, doesn't come up with a waste management plan, the State EPA cannot permit a landfill or an incinerator in Lasalle County. Correct? Because itls over one hundred Ehousand. Well then, it would seem to me if I were sittinq on the waste manaqement committee, and I wanted to keep out landfills from Lasalle County, I'd -- I'd delay that plan for as lonq as I could. Because the State will not permit either an incinerator or a landfill in my county, if I do that, and the counties that are under one hundred thousand are not subject to this moratorium, Which is basically what it isy so those counties 45  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislatlve Day June 14, 1990 would still be subject to the EPA siting a landfill within their jurisdiction. think the wording on that -- -- understand what you're trying to do. I think the wording is not the way you want it to be, because what you're doing is qiving the seventeen counties over a hundred thousand population the ability to stop permitting of incinerators or landfills in their counties, just by delayin: tbe plan. So IIm nok ' sure wbat the impetus is to speed it up.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Good. Senator Demuzio.

Well -- assoclate by saying -- myself with the same question and ask her to respond to that, because Ifm -- I'm on the same wavelength there.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SESATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Karpiel, would you Want to respond?

Well, I think the counties already have siting approval, so they could delay it or deny a permit now. What we are trying to do With this amendment is to get them to adopt these larger counties to adopt their plans. It is a 1ot of the counties that are proposing these landfills, not some outside interests that are proposing the landfills. The counties are siting them. There's and they're doing so without having a plan that has been adopted. So that theydre not really tied to anything right now. Theygre not -- and the munkcipalkties and the people have nothing really to fight them on, or -- or to use as a guide, or a basis of why the counties are doing this. There is a -- there is in western Mane County, for instance, khere is a -- that affects -- it's pretty close to DeKalb County. The county is proposinq to site a two-thousand-acre landfill. A thousand-acre landfill and a thousand for a buffer zone. I meany that is a mega-dump of 46  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14y 1990 magnificence proportions. The landfills that are now present, for instance, in Dupage County, run about four hundred and fifty thousand acres. I mean, four hundred and fifky acres. These this is a thousand-aere landfill. And the people there have really no recourse, because it's the county that is siting it. And a11 I'm saying is that the county -- not saying that they can't site one -- not saying that they -- that landfills are going to be outlawed foreverz but that they should at least adopt a plan before they go ahead and put in these landfills.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Schaffer. I'm sorry. Senator Demuzio.

is -- it's my understanding that the counties noW must already adopt a solid waste plan before they can be permitted. think -- al1 -- if that's true, then I think what you're saying and I think Senator Weleh is right - a11 you are saying is -- is that you are qranting this option to those sixteen or seventeen communities that are a hundred thousand or more: but you are not doing anything for the rest of those communities outside of that population base. And it's my understandin: that that is already the law, is it not?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Karpiel.

All the counties in the State are required under the -- an Act that we recenEly passed, the Solld Waste glanning and Recycling Act -- all the counties in the State are required to come up w1th a plan. Those over a hundred thousand population have to come up Wkth a plan by March 1991 March 1st. Those Wkth under a hundred thousand have until 1995. And if you wanted to put on an amendment to affect them also by this: that's one thing. But I1m concerned about the larger counties that are a11 hurrying up to 47  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 stte landfills before they are mandated to put in place their plane which is coming up next March, and would not hurt them to either get their plan in place sooner than March, or to wait with sitin: of a landfill until after their plan goes into effect -- or till they've presented their plan. Weire not asking them to wait till 19957 we're only asking them to wait either until March 1st, 1991, or to get their plan in place. I just simply think it's unfair to tbe people of an area to be getting landfills sited righk nexe to them, when their county hasn lt even bothered to put in fact -- put in place a coherent, logical, thought-out plan of what they should be doing about the landfills.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWTCZ) Senator Schaffer. Senator Schaffer. Schaffer.

Hello -- hello. Thank you. I rise in support of this amendment. I think those of us who purport to be for recycling, and composting, and waste reduction, recognize that once an area has sited a large landfill, their interest in those programs tends to diminish dramatically. If youlre -- truly are interested in real recycling real waste reduction -- real composting, one does not want these landfills sitedy or incinerators sited, Wiehout the existence of a comprehensive solid waste plan. think this ls a very reasonable aaendment, and one that will go a lon: way to safeguardinq the environment. I'm a little amazed at some of the questions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Geo-Karis.

Well, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. in my county, says it has a solid waste plan and probably won't take place for another three years. In the meankime, the garbage is goinq to accumulate and what have you: and if this bill will 48  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 push the counties to get somekhing done, timely, instead of waitin: for years, while the garbage piles up, certainly will be for it.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any further discussion? Senator Karpiel, to close.

Well, I don't want to take up any more time of the Senate, except to ask for an Aye voke. And to stress that this is -- this is not somethinq to deny counties: municipalitiesp or anyone from for putting in landfills or incinerators. It's à safeguard, and I think it's a logical approach to the situation of -- sinee we are mandating these plans, this is just asking them to Wait unkil they site something, till they have their plan in place. That's all we 're asking. ask for an Aye vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Question is, shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted. A11 in favory vote Aye. A11 opposed, vote Nay. The voting is open. Have a1l voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted Who wish? Please take the record. On tbis question, ehere are 34 Ayes, 9 Nays. Amendment's adopted. Any further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 3rd Reading. Senator Severns, for what purpose do you seek recognition? SENATOR SEVERNS; Thank you, Mr. President, Members of the Senate. I rise on a point of personal privilege.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please proceed.

Iels my honor today to have joining us in the President's 49 .m ' STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION. SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 Gallery, Chuck Xeppler and some of the employees from our local Caterpillar plant in Deeatur, Illinols: and would like the Senate to join me in welcominq them here today. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Will they please rise and be reeognized. Welcome to Springfield. The Lady from Lake, Senator Geo-Karis, for what purpose do you seek recognition? SENATOR GEO-KARIS: Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senatew on a point of personal privilege. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please proceed. SENATOR GEO-KARIS: I have tWo fine families visiting us today from Winthrop Harbor and Zion area. Of course I feel I have the best conskituents. They lre none other than the Dan Hunt -- Dan Hunt and his family, and Dave Cook and his family. And they're up here in the President's Gallery. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Please stand and be recognized. Weleome to Sprinqfield. Letls turn to Page 27. House Bill 3468. Senator Carroll. Out af the record. House Bill 3494 has a fiscal note request. 3506. Senator Maitland. Out of the record. 3513. Senator Schaffer. Out of the record. 3521. Senator Jones. Read the bill, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: House Bill 3521. (Secretary reads title of b1ll) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments. PRESIDING OPPICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any amendments from the Floor? SECRETARY HAWKER: 50  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 Senator Jones offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones, Amendment No. 1.

Yeah. Thank -- thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. requires al1 insurance companies doing business in this State to file with the Director of Insurancer by zip code: the number of automobile insurance policies in effect, the average premium for liability coverage, the average premium for comprehensive coverage, the average incurred loss under liability: as well as the average incurred loss for comprebensive coverage, and the average limit of coverage for each policy - liability and comprehensive. The insurance industry complled thls data ae ehe hearing we had, so we just Want them to file this information with Ehe Department of Insurance. I ask for a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Any discussion? Senator Schuneman.

Thank you, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Excuse me. Can ke break up the caucuses in the -- in the aisles, please?

We just now received one copy of this amendment, and I donft think it has been distributed to the Members. I'm not sure exactly what the effect of this amendment is, but it appears to me: Mr. -- Mr. President, that the amendment may not be germane to the bill. The bill amends the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Act and the State Finance Act. The amendment seeks to amend the Insurance Codez and I would request a rulin: from the Chair on that, Mr. President.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) 51 I STATE OF ILLINUIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslatkve bay June l4, 1990 All right. While we are waiting for the Parliamentarian, 1et me just introduce to this Body a former Speaker of the House, our good friend, Speaker Bill Redmond. Bill. Welcome to Springfield. Good to see you. Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: Well, then -- then Would, While you're doing that, Mr. President, if I may direct some questions to the sponsor? PRESIDING OFPICER; (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) He indicates hedll yield. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: Senator, this -- this report that you're seeking to have made is obviously something that would be a nek and additional report that is not now currently made. Insurance companies are required by laW to make certain reports: and frankly I'm not sure, at this point, what -- how burdensome this speeific additional report that you 're requesting would be. Could you explain to us the purpose of -- of developing this information? PREEIDING OFFTCER: (SENATOR LECHOWICZ) Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. In in response to that question, the industry compiled all this data to the hearing we had in Chicaqo, as relate to the automobile insurance. The there's been many complaints about the the but from consumers about the high rates in certain areas and zip codes that are used to eompile these raEes because of the high cost. So the industry compiled this data, and once the data is made public, then the one would know whether or not they have been -- their rates are justified, as such. It's nothing newr because they are already compiled and that they indicated such. So al1 this does is make it available for the public to have. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMZZIO) 52  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 Senator Schuneman.

Well I -- I tend to agree With you that the information is now compiled and reported probably to the Department of Insurance. My question, though, I don't believe they're noW required to do twice a year, and I don't know what the cost impact would be. I guess I would ask you, Senator, have -- have -- have you gotten any reports from the Department of Insurance as to whether or not this is doable, and Whether or not is something that would be of any value once we get the -- the information?

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones.

As -- as it stands right now in the reports that are filedy it's just on the average, but it doesn't break it down to the respective zip codes for each category. They compile it in computing rates. And how valuable would it be? It would be quite valuable, because you know the arguments that I have raised and many others have raised as it relate to the high cost of -- of insurance premiums in certain zlp codes. And the industry says. ''We1l, because of the losses in that zip code.'' Then perhaps this can take away that such thingsr that in order for them to -- to figure the rakes they must have this informationz Which they do . They indicated they do have it. A11 I Want to do is make it public, so therefore, if is accurate, then we would no longer have to qo through the scenario of fighEing about Ehe raEes in certain areas of the State. And that's all that it does.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further diseussion? Senator Schuneman.

Thank you, Mr. President. At -- first of all, I guess I would ask the Chair if they're ready to Rule yet...  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Yes...

.. . and...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) The answer is yes. Senator Schuneman, the bill is a bill that deals with the Illinois motor vehicle -- motor vehicles. The amendment refers to and is also dealing with motor vehicle knsurance. It is therefore: in the opinkon of the Chairz that the amendment is therefore germane. Senator Schuneman.

Thank you, Mr. President. Well, for purpose of the Members and theîr consideration of their vote on thisr I'm advised that this same amendment, which is opposed by the Department cf Insuranee, am Eold now, was trted in khe House yesterday and failed there. f suspect khat probably the best course is to -- is to follow the example of khe House and -- and no* adopt the amendment.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Netsch.

Thank you' Mr. President. would like to speak in strong support of this amendment. From as a resident currently of Chicagoe but also as someone who has off and on over the years been concerned about the -- the uneven pattern of automobile insuranee and the kinds of argumenes that wedve gotten in defense of that: rarely baeked up by any facks, kt seems to me that it is absolutely essential for any kind of a rational policy with respect to regulation of insurance companies, that this informakion be available, and I guess the only startling part is that it has not been available in the past. So it seems to me that if we are ever goin: to settle this argument about whether 54  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislakive Day June l4, 1990 insurance rates are fairly or unfairly being imposed in different parts of the State, then this is exactly the kind of information that we ought to have. I think is a very important amendmenkz and I certainly hope it is adopted.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A11 right. Further discussion? Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNSJ Thank you, Mr. President. Would the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Sponsor indicates he will yield. Senator Severns.

Senator Jonesz I have a concern that the distriet tbat represent, for example Shelbyville, Illinois, would not have the same kind of traffic jam that the Dan Ryan in Chicago has. And therefore, the debate over zip codes and insurance policies that has long been going on, ultimately, I believez will help influence the rate of insurance paid in various areas. Is that the intent of this amendment?

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones.

No. This is just a public disclosure amendment. A11 it does is require the insurance companies Writing automobile insurance to file with the Department the -- tbe statistics as as spelled out in this amendment. In -- in your area, I believe, is whatever the zip code tn that area, then the people would know. You may be paying too much. You follow me? But all it does is make this information available to you. This is the informatlon that they used to eompile rates in the State of Illinois, and if is available, then I think you should know abouk it. And that's a1l that it does. 55 ' ' ' - STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMNLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4y 1990 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Severns. SENATOR SEVERNS: Is -- is it not the first step to award determining rates in varîous different areas of the State of Illinois, and would ib not as a result, result in higher rates in downstate Illinois - especially rural areas of the State? PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones. SENATOR JONES: No. That is not so. It is used to determine rates right now. A11 it will make available to you is that information, as to what they use to compile to determine the rates. has nothing to do with rating whatsoever. A1l it does is give you the information in the zip code that you reside in, a1l khe necessary information that the insurance companies now compile, and lets you know why your rates are What they are. It doesn't have anything to do with the rates in your area at all. A11 it does is give you the information that make it available publicly. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Purtbez discussion? If not: Senator Jones, do you wish to close? SENATOR JONES: Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of the Senate. As the -- one of the minority spokesmen indicated that what the House had done and what the Department's requested -- durinq the hearings we had in Chicago, the lndustry indicated that they compiled this information and there have been many: many complaints upstate, downstate as to why their rates are what they are. So all the amendment does is give -- make available to the Department, which the Department Will make public, what they use to compile the rates. That's a11 that it does. The industry is 56  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 1Q3rd Legkslative Day June 14, 1990 currently doing it, and a11 we Want to do is make it public so everyone will have access to it# and I ask for a favorable vote.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Is there a1l those in favor, indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. Senator -- Senator Schuneman has requested a roll call. Senator Jones moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Those in favor will vote Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The voting is open. Have a11 voted who wish? Have al1 voted Who Wish? Have al1 voted who wish? Take the record. On that question, the Ayes are 22 -- I'm sorry -- the Ayes are 23, the Nays are 24# voting Present. The amendment fails. Further amendnents?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING QFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Chair would like to recognize a group from Southwestern High School that are -- that is here visitin: with us. Will our guests please rise and be recognized by the Senate. Welcome to Springfield. Senator Jones, for what purpose do you arise?

Verify the negatives.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All riqht. Senator Jones has requeseed a verification of those Members kho voted in the negative. We are still on this order of business, so Madam Secretary. Eenator Jones has requested a verification of those Members Who voted in the -- in the negative. Madam Secretary.

The following Members voted in the negative: Barkhausen, Davidson, Donahue, Ralph Dunn, Etheredgey Fawelly Friedland, Hawkinson, Hudson, Karpiel, Keats: Lechowicz, Madigan, Maitland,  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 Philip: Rea, Rigney, Schaffer, Schuneman, Severns, Topinka, Watsony Weaver and Woodyard.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones, do you question the presence of any Member who voted in the neqative?

Senator Rea.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea on the Floor? Senator Rea on the Ploor? Strike his name.

Senator Weaver.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Weaver is sitting in his seat.

Senator Keats.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Keats is at Senator Philip's desk, getting his instructions.

Senator Maitland.

PRESIDTNG OFFTCER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) Senator Maitland is at the back of the Chamber.

Senator Donahue.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Donahue is in the the aisle.

No further questions.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. On that -- on that question: the Ayes are 23g the Nays are 23# 1 voting Present. The amendment fails. Further 58  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103:d Legkslatlve Day June l4, 1990 amendments? Senator Schuneman.

Request a verifieation of the...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Schuneman has requested a verification of those who voked in khe affirmative.

Mr. President -- Mr. President...

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Schuneman.

Could we have the roll call, please, Mr. President?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) On that question: the Ayes are 23, the Nays are 23y l voting Present. But you are certainly entitled to poll those Who voted in the affirmative.

Well thank you for that, Mr. Presidenty but I think 1'11 WithdraW my request.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) All right. Senator Schuneman withdraws his request. Purther amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Molly Hall, reporter for Channel 3 in Champaiqn has requested permission to videotape. Is leave granted? Leave is granted . Top of Page 28. Top of Page 29. House Bill 3565. Senator Severns. Senator Jones, for what purpose do you arise? Oh# be: your pardon. Let's take 3565 out of the record. This might be the Page 28, I skipped a bill aE the top of that Page. There was one substantive bill there. The rest are the 59  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 appropriation bills. With leavez we will return to House Bills 2nd Reading, House Bill 3529, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3529. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bïll. The Committee on Insurance, Pensions and Licensed Activities offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones.

Xeah. Thank youz Mr. President. Amendment No. is a technical clean-up amendment, as adopted in eommittee as relate to refunds of unearned premiums: and I move its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DENUZIO) Senator Jones has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there diseussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by sayinq Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further commkttee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from khe Floor?

Senator Jones offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Jones.

ïeah. Thank you, Mr. President and Members of khe Senate. Amendment No. 1 <sie> contains provisions of Senate Bill 1741, which passed out of this Body, except We included in there language Ehak Would limit the -- the Dral oral presentation for quotations for insurance over the phone to cities over five 60  STATE OF ILLINOIS I 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT i 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 i hundred thousand. Also the bill prohibits the insurance companies from imposing surcharges or refusing to insure a applicant based solely on the identity of the applicant's previous insurance carrier. Automobile insurers and insurance producers have provide applicants the oral and telephone estimates -- requires insurance companies selling automobile insurance to disclose, upon request, the names and addresses of their authorized producers nearest to the resident of the person making the request, and we have discussed this With the minority spokesman and I believe the amendment is agreed Eo, and I ask for a favorable vote. PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Schuneman. SENATOR SCHUNEMAN: Thank you, Mr. President. The sponsor has Worked with us on this amendment, and he has worked With the industry and the producers. And to the best of my knowledgez everybody is in agreement now, that -- that this amendment should be adopted. So Ifd urge your support. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further discussion? Senator Jones has moved the adoption of Amendment No. l <sic> -- those in favor, indicate by saying -- Aye. Those opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Further amendments? SECRETARY HAWKER: .oo further amendments. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Readlng. Top of Page 29. Senate Bll1 3565. Senator Severns. 3580. Senator Marovitz. 3587. Madigan. 3590 is a fiscal note. 3598. D 'Arco. 3610. Thomas Dunn. 3613. Severns. Senator Smithz what -- Senatoç Smith. SENATOR SKITE: 61  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Leqislative Day June 14, 1990 Yes.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) What purpose do you arise?

I have a bill here: 3580.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Whatîs -- what was -- whatls your number?

3580. On Page 29.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) I'm sorry. I inadvertently called Senator Marovitz. With leave of the Body, we will return back to Page 29. House Bill 3580, Madam Secretary, please.

House Bill 3580. (Secretary reads tltle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Hea1th, Welfare and Corrections offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith.

Thank you, Mr. President. This -- on House Bill 3580 -- the amendment merely deletes all, and inserts House Bill 3584, Which extends due process protection to private agency foster parents in administrative appeals. I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not: those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 ls adopted. Further commltEee amendments?

No further committee amendments. 62  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslatkve Day June l4# 1990

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZTO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Smith offers Amendnent No. 2.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith.

Thank you, Mr. President. This Amendment No. 2 merely clarifies the procedure for the initial review of a private agency's decislon. I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Smith has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is there discussion? not, those ln favor will indieate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Bottom of Page 29 is 3614. Senator Toplnka. Page 30. 3630. Senator Maitland. 3632. Luft. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill 32 -- I'm sorry, 3632, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3632. (secretary reads title of bi1l) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No commibtee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3645. Senator D'Arco. 3649. Senator Joyce. 63  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 3655. Zito. 3656. Zito. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading, House Bill 3-6-5-6, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3656. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Local Government offers Committee Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Zito.

Thank you, Mr. President and Members. Committee Amendment No. l to House Bill 3656 is the substantive amendment that becomes the bill. It creates seven stormwater management planning councils in Cook County, to develop stormwater management plans for four established Watershed areas. It's an agreed-to amendment. It's been worked out. There Was no opposition in committee. I move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Zito has moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No . is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from *he Floor?

Amendment No. 2 offered by Senator Zito.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Senator Zito.

Thank you, Mr. President. Amendment No. to House Bill 3656 64  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 would reinstate House Bill 3367, and incorporate that language into this bill, and I would move for its adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Zito has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 2. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 2's adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. House Bill 3658. Senator Joyce. Senator Zito.

In Senator Joyce's absence, I'd ask leave of the Body to handle these two remaining bills of his.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l riqht. Youlve heard the request Senator Joyce is absent today, due to -- due to illness. Is there leave granted? Leave is granted. Senate -- House Bill 3658, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3658. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3675. Senator Rea. House Bill 3-6-7-5, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3675. (seeretary reads title of bill) * 65  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Public Hea1th, Welfare and Corrections offers Commlttee Amendmenk No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. The committee amendment -- this was a clarification -- the agency -- let me double-check here...

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion?

Good .

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) If notz those in favor Will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed: Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from Ehe Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3679, Madam Seeretary. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading.

House Bill 3679. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICCR: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

66  STATE 0F ILLTNOIS 86th CENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 Senator Barkhausen offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Barkhausen.

Mr. President and Members, this is a -- an amendment that is similar to one I offered on a Senate bille dealing generally with the subject of uniform laws. The original bill in this case is again an additional Article 4A to the Commercial Code and the amendment is to add to this bll1 a Uniform Statutory Wills Act, and a Uniform Foreign Money Judgments Act. All of this, in one form or another, passed the Senate earlier, and I'm trying to put back on a House bill. And I ask for your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Is there discussion? Senator Barkhausen's moved the adoption of Amendment No. Those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. l is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3682. On the order of -- Senator Zitols been granted leave to handle that bill for Senator Joyce. 3682, Madam Secretary. SECRETAR? HAWKER: House Bill 3682. (Secrekary reads tiEle of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Energy and Environment offers Committee Amendment No 1.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SEN/TOR DEMUZIO) Senator Zito.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. President and Members. The committee 67  STATE OF ILLINOIS 26th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslative Day June l4, 1990 offered one amendment that clarified the language of the legislation to insure that only pay phone operators and networks are exempted from the 9-1-1 surcharge, and I would move for adoption.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Zito 's moved the adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Purther committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3694. Senator Zito. Page 31. 3695. Senator Philip. Page 3lz top of the Page. Senator Philip. 3695. No. 3707. Senator Severns. House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill 3-7-0-7, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3707. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendmenks from khe Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3716. Senator DeAngelis. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill -- 3-7-1-6. 3-7-1-6.

68  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990 House Bill 3716. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator DeAngelis offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis. SENATOR DeANGELIS: Thank you, Mr. President. The amendment takes out the DepartmenE of Revenue from the requirement, because they have in place a rather elaborate debt collection system . This is an amendment tha: everyone agrees with.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Discussion? Senator Netsch.

Yes. The Department has -- has spoken to us about it also, Senator DeAngellsz and I think it does make sense for them not to be subject to the same oversight when khey have their own contractual arrangements. So we agree With it.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator DeAngelis moves the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Is there further discussion? If not, those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. l is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3717. Senator Topinka. 3-3-7-1-7 Ksic>, Madam Secretary .

69  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4# 1990 House Bi1l 3717. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. The Committee on Energy and Environment offers Committee Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SCNATOR DEMUZIO) Senator -- Senator Topinka.

Yes. Mr. President: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. The amendment is an Illinois State Chamber of Commerce amendmenk, is apparently agreed to. It defines ''criterion.''

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Topinka has moved the adoption of Committee Amendkent No. 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor Will indieate by saying Aye. Opposedz Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Topinka offers Amendment No. 2.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Topinka.

On this one? I'm not showin: an -- an amendment. Could have a copy of that?

There is no amendment. I'm sorry. It wa@ an error.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Further amendments?

Thank you. 70  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103td Legislative Day June 1990

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) No further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3718. Genator Netsch. 3722. Senator Topinka. 3725. Hall. 3838. D 'Arco. 3843. Fawell. On the Order of 2nd Reading, House Bills 3-8-4-3, Madam Secretary. Read the bill, please.

House Bill 3843. (Secretary readz tktle of bkll) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDINC OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Fawell offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Fawell.

Thank you very much. This Was an amendment requested by the Mayors and Managers Conference, and it merely exempts them from the fees when the municipal police department has traffic tickets.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Fawell has moved the adopted of Amendment No. Is there discussion? Senator Hawkinson.

Thank you, Mr. President. Will the sponsor yield for a question?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Sponsor indicates she will yield. Senator Hawkinson.

71  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLX REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June 14, 1990 Senator, as understood this bill, this provided for a -- a jury demand fee of fifty dollars where the penalty is by fine only . Who are you trying to exempt out?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Fawell.

This is for docupent storaqe systems. This is the -- this is the bill for the document yeah. It says the one-dollar to three-dollar fee if imposed by the Dupage County would would reduce by...okay?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Al1 right. Further discussion? If not, Senator Fawell has moved the adoption of Amendment No. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. Tbe Ayes have it. Amendment No. is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3852. Senator DeAngelis. House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill 3852, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3852. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendmenks from *he Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Senator DeAngelis, What purpose do you arise? SENATOR DeANGELIS: have had some requests that have not been totally formulated 72  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103:d Legislative Day June 14, 1990 yet about putting some amendments on this since this -- this is the only township bill alive. I1m moving it to 3rd -- I willz in fact, accept amendments on Recall, but I would like for the whoever's interested to get them toqether al1 at one time. don't want to be bringin: it back and forth.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 1'11 -- 1911 spread the Word for ycu. 3rd Reading. Page 31. Bottom of the page. 3853. Senator Savickas. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading. House Bill 3-8-5-3, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 3853. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. Page 32. 3856. Senator Jones. House Bil1 3-8-5-6. Kadam Gectetary.

House Bill 3856. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from *he Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) You sure? 3rd Reading. 3875. Senator Holmberg. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading, House Bill 3-8-7-5, Madam Secretary.  STATE OP ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990

House Bill 3875. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

Senator Holmberq offers Amendment No. 1.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmberg.

Thank you, Mr. President. This bill requires notification of the next of kin before a permit for a disinterment can be issued. And under leqal opinion, we needed to do some cleanup, and that's a11 that this amendment does.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Holmber: has moved the adoption of Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. 1 is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 3891, fëscal note. 3914. Senator Watson. 3940. On the Order of House Bills -- 2nd Reading is House Bill 3952. Senator -- 94, Senator Marovitz. 4-0-3-5. Rea. House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill 4-0-3-5, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 4035. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Readin: of the bill. The Committee on Local Government offers Committee Amendment No. 1. 74  STATE 0P ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legislative Day June l4, 1990

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea.

Thank you, Mr. President. This here -- there Was a mistake made in the drafting of the bill, and this straightens out the language and the intent. And would move for the adoption.

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea's moved khe adoption of Committee Amendment No. 1. Is there discussion? If not: those in Eavor wil1 indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Committee Amendment No. l is adopted. Purther committee amendments?

No further committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) 3rd Reading. 4053. Senator Collins. 4-0 -- 4124. Senator Marovitz. 4126. Senator Joyce. 4129. Senator Alexander. Senator Alexander. Page 33. 4140. Marovitz. 4149. Senator Joyce. 4159. DeAngelis. Senator DeAngelis on the Ploor? 4159. We await your command. House Bills 2nd Readin: is House Bill 4159, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 4159. (Secretary reads eitle of bill) 2nd Readinq of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.  STATE 0F ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 123:6 Legislative Day June 14, 1990 1 I

PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 4178. Senator Jones. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill 4-1-7-8, Madam Secretary.

Eouse Bi1l 4178. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendmen*s.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Ploor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 4185. Senator Smith. 4185. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Reading is House Bill 4-1-8-5, Madam Secretary.

House Bill 4185. (Secretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor?

No Floor amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading. 4190. Senator Luft. 4208. Zito. 4221. Senator Rea. On the Order of House Bills 2nd Readinq is House Bill 4221, Madam Secretary.

House B:ll 4221. (Seeretary reads title of bill) 2nd Reading of the bill. No committee amendments.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Any amendments from the Floor? 76  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR sEssloN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Legkslative Day June 14, 1990

Senator Rea offers Amendment No.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rea.

Tbank you , Mr. President. This strikes the seventy-five percent and places in front of it a hundred percent, in terms of the cost of the loan program. And I would move for adoption. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEKUZIOJ Senator Rea's moved the adoption of Amendment No. Is there discussion? If not, those in favor Will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Amendment No. is adopted. Further amendments?

No further amendments.

PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) 3rd Reading . Senator Phllip, for what purpose do you arise?

Point of personal privilege. As you know, Senator Macdonald's husband is still in the hospital; I'd like the record to indicate that. Senator Mahar is still back home after his mother's funeral. And thirdly, Senator Dudycz is attending the first Flag Day parade and celebration in the City of Chicago.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Vadalabene, for what purpose do you arise?

The minority leader in -- reminded me about the Flag Day speeches, and -- With his comment. And I Was Wondering -- this is the third printing, and they're moving real faste and I'd like to get them off my desk. Flag Day speeches.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Vadalabene has been staying up all night to write 77  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSIUN SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Leqislative Day June 14, 1990 those, and we're very appreciative. There goes another one. Message from the House.

A Message from the House by Mr. O'Brien, Clerk. Mr. President - I am directed to inform the Senate that the House of Representatives has adopted the following joint resolution, in the adoption of which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senate, to wit: House Joint Resolution l37 And it is substantive.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Executive. Resolutions.

Senate Resolution 1228 offered by Senator Jones. Senate Resolution 1229 offered by Senator Mahar. Senate Resolution 1230 offered by Senator Savickas. Senate Resolution 1231 offered by Senator Savickas. Senate Resolution 1232 offered by Senator Demuzio, President Rock and a11 Members. Senate Resolution 1233 offered by Senator Topinka. Senate Resolution 1234 offered by Senator Carroll. And Senate Resolution 1235 offered by Senator Brookins. And Senate Joint Resolution 20l offered by Senator Berman. They dre a1l congratulatory.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Consent Calendar.

Senate Joint Resolution 200 offered by Senators Hudson, Dudycz, Philip and President Rock. It is substantive.

PRESIDING OEFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Hudson. Executive. A1l right. Senator Hudson, for 78  STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Leqislative Day June l4, 1990 I I what purpose do you arise? Why don't you use -- Why don 't you use I , Senator Hawkinson's microphone? Senator Hudson. I SENATOR HUDSON: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the -- of the Senate. I have just turned ln a Senate Joint Resolution that memorializes Congress to give Conqress the power to prevent the physical -- desecration of our Elag. And we have a good many of the Members, I think, almost all over here -- and I would like as many Members on the other side of the aisle -- I have some -- I haven't had a chance to get them all. Bu* any Members on the other side of the aisle here that would like to go on this, as a co-sponsor, they are certainly most welcome, and I would appreciate them letting the clerk know that they would like to be on this as co-sponsors. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l riqht. Thank you. The adjournment resolution, Madam Secretary. SECRETARY HAWKER: Senate Joint Resolukion l99 offered by Senator Rock. (Secretary reads SJR 199) PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) Senator Rock. SENATOR ROCK: Thank you, Mr. President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate. Senate Jolnt Resolution l99 is the adjournment resolution. When we conclude our business very shortly here today, it ealls for us to return to Sprinsfield next Tuesday, at the hour of twelve o lclock noon, at which time we will begin on, again, on the Order of 2nd Reading and handle all the appropriation bills. So I Would move for the suspension of the rules and for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 199. 79 1 . j ' j STATE OF ILLINOIS 86th GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSIOH SENATE TRANSCRIPT 103rd Leqislative Day June l4, 1990 PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMUZIO) A1l right. Senator Rock has moved to suspend the rules for the immediate consideration and adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 199. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The rules are suspended. Senator Rock noW moves the adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 199. Those in favor will indicate by saying Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Senate Joint Resolution l99 is adopted. lst Readinq of Bills. SECRETARY HAWKER: House Bill 1018 offered by Senator de1 Valle. (Secretary reads title of bill) lst Reading of the bill. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) Rules Committee. Madam Secretary, have there been any objections filed to the Resolutions Consent Calendar? SECRETARY HAWKER: There have been no objeetions filed. PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR DEMDZIO) All right. With leave of the Body, *e will add to those that have been printed and passed out, Senate Resolutions l29 qsie> through and including 1-2-3-5. We will -- with leave of the Body we Wi11 add Senate Joint Resolution 201. Is leave granted? Leave is granted. Senator Holmber: moves the adoption of the Resolutions Consent Calendar. Is there discussion? All those in favor will indicate by sayin: Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. The Resolutions Consent Calendar is adopted. Further business to come before the Senate? You have anything else? Al1 right. Senator Rock has Roved that the Senate adjourn until next Tuesday. A1l right. June 19th, a: the hour of noon. Senate stands adjourned. 80  REPORTZ TIFLDAX STATE OF ILLINJIS 90/D9/11 ' PAGE: u0l 8JTH GENERAL A:sgaaky 13:11:38 SEN/TE DAILY TRANZCRIPTION DF UEBATE fàofx JUNE 1#, 1990 H$-1018 FIRST READfNG PAGE 8Q H8-1585 SECOND READING PAGE # bè-1&8t SECOND READING PAGE # H8-2375 SEEQND READING PAGE 5 HB-3O20 SELURD REAOING PAGE 9 H3-3021 SECUND READING PAGE 9 I H0-3012 SECOND READING PAGE to ' H8-3065 SECUND READING PAGE 11 i HB-316; SECOND READING PAGE 13 88-3197 SECDND READING PAGE 14 ' H8-321# SECOND READING PAGE 22 H8-3310 SECOND READING PAGE 23 88-33:2 SECOND REAO ING PAGE 24 Hô-3318 SECOND READING PAGE 25 I H 88-3 - 426 Z 3521 ECOND R SECUND EADING REAûING PAGE PAGE 21 50 j H8-3529 SECONO READING PAGE 60 H8-3580 SECOND READING PAGE 62 H:-3632 GEEOND READING PAGE 63 H3-3658 SEEOND READING PAGE 64 H8-3658 SECOND READING PAGE 65 H8-3675 SECON: REAûING PAGE 65 88-3679 SECONO READING PAGE 66 H8-3682 SECOND REAOING PAGE 61 Hö-3707 SECCND READING PAGE 68 H8-37:6 SECDND READING PAGE 68 H8-3717 SECOND READING PAGE 69 H 88 :-38 3* 53 2SECOND READING PAGE T 7l 2 I H8-3853 SECOND READING PAGE 73 H8-3856 SECOND REAûING PAGE :3 H:-3875 SEEOND READING PAGE ?3 H:-#035 SECON; READING PAGE 74 H0-*:59 SECUNO READING PAGE 15 HB-4178SECOND READING HD-:185 SECUND READING PAGE PAGE 76 75 1 *9-4221 SECONO READING PAGE 76 SR-1228 RESOLUTION OFF/RED PAGE 78 G:-1229 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 78 SR-1 3 - 230R l23t EGOLUTIDN O RESOLUTION FFERED OFFERED PAGE PAGE 78 78 1 5R-:232 RESOLVTtol : OFFERED PAGE 7: $ 5R-1233 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE 78 GR-t231 RESBLUTIGN OEFEAED PAGE 78 5R-1235 REGOLUTION OFFEREZ PAGE T8 HJR-OI3T RESOLUTION OFFEREB PAGE 70 SaR-O199 ADOPTFD PAGE 79 > SJR-02O0 REZOLUTION OFFERfD PAGE 78 GJR-0201 RESGLUTLON OFFERED PAG6 78 ZUBJECT MATTER SENATE T0 ORDER - PûESIDENT ROCK P/GE 1 PRAYER - DR. 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