The regular Session of the 90th General Assembly will please come to order. W ill the Members please be at their desks? Will our guests the galleries please rise? Our prayer today vill be given by Reverend Gerry Comstock, Unity Church , Sp ringfleld : Illlnois . Reverend Constock .
(Prayer by the Reverend Gerry Comstcck)
Please rematn stand ing for the Pledge of Allegiance . Senato r Sieben.
(Pledge of Alleqiance, led by Senator Sieben)
Read ing o f the Journal . Senator Butler.
Mr. President, move that reading and app roval of the Journal of Wednesday , Ap ril 23rd and Thursday , Ap rtl 24th # in the year 1997 , be postponed r pending arrival of the printed Journal .
Senator Butler moves to postpone Ehe reading and the approval of the Journal, pend ing the a rrival o f the printed transcript . There being no objection, so ordered. Committee Reports.
Senator Fitzgerald , Chair of the Comm ittee on State Government Operations , repo rts House Bills 28 y 424, 909 and 1529 Do Pass . Senator Klemm , Cha ir of the Committee on Executive , repores House Bills 904, 923, 1006 and 1492 Do Pass ; House B1ll 473 Do Pass, as Amended ; and Senate Jo int Resolution 22 Be Adopted . And Senator Sieben r Chair of the Committee on Agriculture and Conservation, repo rts House Bills 1051 , 1094 and 1289 Do Pass . STATE 0F ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Legislative Day Ap ril 25, 1997
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Messages from the House .
A Message from the House by Mr. Rossi, Clerk . Mr . President am directed to inform the Senate that *he House of Representatives has passed bills of the following titles , in the passage of which am instructed to ask the concurrence of the Senaee , to wit: House Bills 6l , 62 , 164 : 165 , 289 , 1087 , 1422, 1613, 1627, 1730 : 228, 724, 762, 891, 920, 922, 1088 , 1194 , 1493, 1543, 2047 and 2152 . A11 passed the Hcuse : Ap rll 24th , 1997.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) House Bills 1st Read ing .
House Bill 53, offered by Senators Dudycz and Troteer. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bll1 61, offered by Senator Cronin. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 144, offered by Senator Bowles . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 164 , o ffered by Senator Ka rpiel . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 228, offered by Senator Lauzen . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 234: offered by Senator Butler. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 295, o ffered by Senator Cullerton . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 528, offered by Senatcr Peterson. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 601, offered by Senato r Peterson . 2 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Legislative Day Ap ril 25, 1997 (Secretary reads title of btll) House Bill 602 , offered by Senato r Maitland . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 646, offered by Senator Ma itland . (Secretary reads title of bll1) House B ill 760 , offered by Senato r DeLeo . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 759 , offered by Senator DeLeo . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 762, offered by Sena tor Molaro . (Secretary reads tltle of bill) House Bill offered by Senato r DeLeo . (Secretary reads tltle of bill) House Bill 891 , offered by Senator Geo-Karis . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 920, offered by Senators Dillard and Mahar. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 922, offers -- offered by Sena tor Thomas Walsh . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 955, offered by Senato r DeLeo . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill l001z offered by Senator Bowles . (Secretary reads title of bill) House B ill 1088, offered by Senato r Cullerton . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1141 , offered by Senator Bawles . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1155, offered by Senator DeLeo . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1176, offered by Sena to r Farley . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1207, offered by Senator Dilla rd . STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leglslative Day April 25 r 1997 (Secretary reads title of b111) House Bill 1210, offered by Senator Dillard . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bl1l 1239, offered by Senator Maha r. (Secretary reads title of bi11) Hcuse Bill 1252, offered by Senator Dillard . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1255, offered by Senato r Claybo rne . (Secretary reads title of bill) Hcuse Bill 1356, offered by Senator Luechtefeld . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1386, offered by Senator Rauschenberger . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1400, offered by Senator Madigan . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1408, offered by Senatcr Welch . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1422, offered by Senator Trotter. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1493, offered by Senator Rauschenberger. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1500, offered by Senator Butler. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1573, offered by Senato r Weaver. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1613, offered by Senator Parker . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1468 (sicl (1668), offered by Senator Bowles. (Secretary reads title of btll) House Bill 1684, offered by Senator Syverson (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1805, offered by Senator Cronin . 4 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997 (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2121 , offered by Senator Radogno . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2147 , offered by Senator Obama . (Secretary reads title of bill) House B ill 2179, offered by Senator Lauzen . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2214, offered by Senator Karp lel . (Secretary reads title of bill) (House Bill 2223.) (Bil1 within parentheses inadvertently not read lnto record, but submitted in writing.) House Bill 165 , offered by Senator Ka rpiel . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 333 , offered by Senato r Severns . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1354, offered by Senator Burzynski . (Secretary reads title of bill) 1st Reading of tbose bills .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Parker, for what purpose do you rise?
For a point of pe rsonal privilege .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your p rivilege -- pe rsonal privilege .
Thank -- thank you , Madam President . very p roud and honored to have up in the President's Gallery Westbrook School who is here from Glenview r and we would like to have them rise and be recognlzed .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Welcome to the students of Westbrook School, and their 5 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997 teachers. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 54 r offered bg Sena tor Smith and all Members . It 's a death resolution , Madam President .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARVS) Consent Calendar . Senator Lauzen , for what purpose do you rise , sir?
During this 1u1lz Madam President, I'd just like a point of persona l privilege .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) State your po int, sir.
In the President 's Gallery , on the Republican side , we have a guest here today . like to introduce my friend and constituent, John Kado r. He is a recent author his most -- his most recent book is The Manager's Book of Questions. And John is such a nice guy that he actually listens to the answe rs . So he 's a experts on the questions that you ask in intervtews. So I1d likè to Nelcome John Kador.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Welcome to the Senate , Mr. Kador . Senator Demuzio , for what purpose do you rise?
Thank you , Madam President. like the record to reflect that Senator Garcia is not here today . He had to go back to his distrlet for some leqislative business .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) It '1l be so noted . ..qpage 18 o f today 's Calendar is the Order of Seeretary 's Deskg Resolublons . Senate Resolutton 20, I believe , is the first one . Senator del Valle? Next one . Senato r 6 STATE OF ILLTNO TS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25y 1997 Klemm . Senate Resolution 49. Senato r Klemm . M r. Sec retary , read the resolution.
Sena te Resolution 49, offered by Senator Klemm . There are no comm ittee or Floor amendments ; Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEOCKARIS) Senator Klemm .
Thank you, Madam President. Senate Resolution 49 is identical to Senate Resolution 21 that We had passed ea rlier, and what it does is it creates a Task Force on Electkon Aetivities and Reform . As you recall , we had a task force that we wanted Lo look into campaigns and election refo rm . It 's a big issue that 's important to all of us . This would form the bipa rtlsan task force of six members . It does include some expend iture of funds fo r staff and hiring consultants and contractual agreements, and that 's the reason We do need a roll call vote on this particular resolution , rather than a vo ice vote we took earlier . So I do ask fc r your support so we can continue this dialogue and have the task fo rce look at thls important subject, and I do ask for a roll call vote. Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Collins . Senator Collins .
Yes r Senato r , we had a Floo r amendment filed to this resolution . I had spoken to Senator Klemm about it , and you ind icated that there was no Floo r amendment . I don 't recall it being Withdrawn .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS ) No Floor amendment has been app roved .
Oh r I 'm so rry . It 's ln Rules . Then 1et me speak to the -- to 7 1 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25# 1997 the resolution .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Collins .
don 't think anyone here would like to see or recognize the necessity of of our doing somethtng about campaign finance reform in this State anymore so than I do . We need to do that, and -- no doubt about it . But what we need to do is to ensure the people of this State tha t -- orr give them the trust and confidence that we are serious about meaningful campaign finance reform and, (b), that we want -- by eliminating the politics ouE of And -- and this amendment, if you look at it, it is structured in a way tha t it is totally dominated by one party . It ought to be totally, totally nonpartisan , and tn o rder to dc that , we have proposed an amendment make equal terms of the number of Democrats and the number of Republlcans . And the amendment has been bottled up in the Rules Comm ittee , which glves me the -- the feeling tha t we are not sincere about campaign finance reform y and I have some questions of the sponsor, given that this amendment was no e give an oppo rtunity to come out of Rules. And first of ally Senator Klemm, what do you expect us to do? Could you just kind of explain the functlon of this task force and what We hope to accomplish by November 1st?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm .
Well, thank you, Senator Collins . As you know , as I answered before , -- I would like to see thts task force look at all these problems that have been presented to us by you and othe rs and myself. Many of us have -- through the years, have introduced legislatlon . Ra ther than a piecemeal z Band-A id approachr think tha t sometimes has been taken, like to see a no re STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Leg islative Day Ap ril 25, 1997 comprehensive app roach and have bipartisanship so that We would be able to pass legislatlon . As you know , a few years ago , I had leg islation that lald on the table here because everybody Was nitpicking a part o f it that they couldn 't support, so we d idn 't move it . thlnk wha t we need is a consensus , and that 's what think this will dc . As you notice y we also have a deadline of a reporting date of November 1st, 1997 , so that we wculd have ample time to take ca re of any recommendations that the task force wculd make in the Veto Session . So think we have the mechanism and the time frame that would meet with everyone 's approval .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Collins .
Senator -- Sena tor Klemm , -- I ag ree w ith you that -- we have any hope for passing meanlngful campa ign reform , then will have to be a consensus . Well , you cannot have a consensus until we elim inate the politics from the Who le p rocess . If you have three Democrats and three Republicans , the possibility that that consensus can be reached , and we can move on with the hopes that the House would do the same thinç . W ithout that, you 're not going to have an agreement . You 're go ing to have the Republicans selectively decid ing what leg islation -- what -- what 's going to go lnto the reform package , with the Democrats being outvoted . So you fre going to have the same thing that we have now r and that 's the reason why we have not passed meaningful campa ign finance reform . The people out there want it . It is time to do it . We have a responsibility and obligation to do it, and we 're not going to accomplish I don 't think , th rough this process . And for that reason , I 'n go ing to have to oppose the -- the resolution.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Senata r Klenm , to close . 9 ze STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997
Wellr you know , there are many reasons why people don 't Want to see campaign legislation come fo rth . One of them obviously could be, HWel1, we don't have enough input.'' ''It doesn't include everythtng we dd like to have .'' And I kncw we don 't live in a perfect world, but I had introduced earlier a resolution - a joint resolution - that would have b ipartisan suppo rt by House and -- and Senate Members . But I ftnd that the other side of the Rotunda , they weren't interested in having that , so I moved ahead with a Senate resolution that I think is necessa ry . We have to have some movement on some of this legislation . If I have a tie vo te on everything , nothing happens , and of course , that 's certainly one way to stifle it . So for those of you who don 't want to see campaign refo rm r o r elections, then , obviously , vote against this . I understand that , and I can count that as a negative vote fo r trying to help us move this process along . Fo r those of you Who belleve that we 're sincere and want to try to do something, I would ask for your support. Thank you.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Klemm ?
And in further closing , I -- I think: here 's an oppo rtunity to have every Member, if they w ish, to submit their suggestions . I have on my desk a file - it must be three inches thick - of suggestions that have come from a task fo rce that came through last year, that came to me and said , ''We need some help on this lejislation.'' And when I look at the legislatlon that I am partly a sponsor on on many o f the pieces r I 'm delighted to have these leg islative efforts mcved . But if we don 't move 'em or if we don 't complete the p icture and complete the process , this task fo rce, I hoper will do that job. I can -- our intention, at least Would be m ine , and I can perceive that this would have hea rings th roughout 10 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leglslative Day April 25, 1997 the State - Springfield, downstate , Chicago , other areas so that we can get a1l the interested parties involved in order to mcve this process and give thelr suggestions, and then we can massage the ldeas and come up w ith something tha t will pass. Through the years we have had g reat ideas , but nothing comes out of the Chamber because we don 't seem to get tha t consensus . We also have to look , I th ink , at some of the federal implications that have come through fund ing . As you know , one of the things that are happening today in the press and the newspapers and every time turn on the TV is the -- the wrongful diversion of foreign dollars com ing into federal coffers, filtering down to local races from fore ign interests . And that 's certainly something that I think the American public and the people in Illinois certainly resent, of having this influence coming in by selling some of the p roblems We have. I think the task fo rce should be looking at things such as that. I thlnk wha t we are interested in are clean electionsr campaign refo rm that people understand , that allows cand idates to have their -- their day , you will, to get their message out to their voters so they know wh6 they can vote for, but eliminate the hanky-panky that has been ioing on in prior years. I know none of us are doing it, so I know you'll support this bec4use I know how urgently you need some refo rm on these area . One of the reasons we 're continually wanting to nove this p rocess is because we want it open, we want to put the light of day into this procçss so that everybody has an opportunity, so that the press can join us and give us suggestions and to open this up . I think a little bit of daylight on the electlon and campaign reform process certalnly what we 're loaking for, and I certainly would like to ask you to do it . Now , for those of you Who don 't want to do that and keep lt in the dark , obviously you 're go in: to oppose this resolution. That 's your choice and we 'll have to act on -- on -- from thatr from tha t po int on . 11 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leglslative Day April 25# 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dudycz , what purpose do you rise?
Well , thank you , Madam President . Just regarding the Senate resolution, stand in support and join Senator Klemm's efforts to have everyone support Senate Resolution 49. We passed this resolution previously on a voice vote : but because of the expenditure of monies that needed , the Senato r has graciously p resented it before the Body again and we need a recorded vote . And I would hope that we would all unanimously vote fo r it aga in . I think the -- the explana tion was clear encugh r but if it 's not clear enough , 1'11 be more than happy to g ive my interp retation of what the Senate resolution does . It has -- simply requtres five Members of the -- of the Senate to join in a task force to study campa ign finance refo rm . This is not going to be something that is going to be firm or going to require anybody to have any specific legislatlon, but to study and to listen to all options, like to listen from a11 the special interest groups: from the citizens: as well as Members of both parties , and see hoW We can improve the -- the finance -- the ... Can I have some ...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) It Would be nice if we could l'isten to the speaker so we 'll understand what he has to sayr so that you won't be in a quandary la ter. Senator -- Senator Weaver? Senato r Weaver .
Thank you , Madam President . I wonder we could stand at ease for a few minutes fcr the purpose of a Rules Comm ittee meeting .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Your request is in order . Senator Weave r -- meanr Senato r Dudycz.
12 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25 , 1997 Yes, thank you , Madam P resident . Then I would ask leave I can continue my rema rks afte r the Rules Commlttee meeting . Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) You will be so granted . We 'll stand at ease for a few minutes for the purpose of the Rules Committee . (SENATE STANDS AT EASE) (SENATE RECONVENES)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Dudycz . If we could have some order in the Senate. When We broke fo r the Rules meeting y We Were debating Senate Resolution 49 , and we interrupted Senator Dudycz in order to have the Rules meettng . So , Senator Dudycz . If I can get order ln the House . May We have your attention. Senator Dudycz has the Floo r.
Thank you , Madam President . Senate Resolution 49 is a good resolution. I urge everyone to listen to Senator Klemm 's cldsing remarks.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Fu rther discussion? Senator Welch .
Yes . had a questicn of the sponsor on this . PRESIDING OFFICER J (SENATOR GEO-KARTS) He has a question fo r you , Senator -- Klemm . He indieates he will yield .
Sena tor Klemm , you are asking for W ide-rang ing powers for this 13 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL A SSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leglslative Day April 25, 1997 conmittee. You 're asking that the task force emplcy staff, hire consultants, enter ln contractual arrangements through the Senate Operatlons Commisslon to conduct its lnvestigation and research . And I'm wondering just what the polnt of this is. Now, you just mentioned the use of forelgn money local races . Can you po int out a particular race in the last election where there was money from outside this country used?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm .
Well, yes, we do feel that dc , at least tha t we need .to seriously address the concerns - and not just maybe have a -- a subcommittee of a -- of a standing committee - that We should have sta ff that can provlde the answers to some of the questions you 're asking me now . That 's why we 're having staff from both sides to be able to look at the investigations and look at the problems that we 've heard on television o r read in the papers . Rather than take lnnuendos, rather have people Who can, perhaps e follow this through , and it may cost us some money . think it 's inte resting that we 're willing to go to this extreme , if you will, to see that the job is done correctly. I think that 's in evidence of the 'seriousness that I really have for thls resolution, and I hope you would jcin that.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Welch .
Well, that is an absolutely amazlng answer, to me . I asked you to name one campaign, one campaign in the entire State , that money was used from outside of America . You can 't name one , but you said , because I asked you r there are concerns . Well , my concerns are that you 're raising a red herrlng . That 's my concern . This is an attempt to have a wide-rang ing investigation 14 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Legislative Day April 25 , 1997 for political purposes . Xou have no evidence . All you have are rumors . Are we going Eo start creating task forces and spend ing taxpayer money to investigate rumors? Tha t doesn't make sense . Exactly what is the task force go tng to investigate? A re they going you know y we 've got btlls that have come over from the House, we dve goe bills tha t require more d iselosure . A re we go ing to investlgate that issue, Senator?
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Klemm .
One of the suggestions was that , can you assure that no money has ever done -- come into the campaigns . don 't know , and think that's one o f the -- one of the areas that maybe people have suggested that we look at . But really we 're locking at electton and campaign refo rms , locally , to find out what 's happening here and hoW we spend our monies and how they 're used properly . I 've got, already, leg islators asking me that ehey 'd like to testify on things that have happened that were wrong , that shouldn 't be allowed . These a re the thlngs that we 're talking about. -- if the committee and the task f6rce finds that there's evidence of -- of any wrongdoinq, wedre trylng to find legislatign to prevent that from happening. 'This is not a witeh-hunt. It's just one a rea they may wish to look at . It's a very all-encompassing task force, for once , to look at What we need to do . wish you would join me, but obvtously if you don't, that's your choice. If you don 't believe ke need this, then fine . You -- you have a cho ice to vote aga inst it.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Welch . SENATOR WELCH : Well , thank you for giving me those options , Senato r, but we also have a choice of votlng out the bills that came over from the STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLV REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legtslative Day April 25, 1997 House . We have that cho ice , too , but you won 't le t us vote on those because you have heard a rumcr that maybe we should investigate foreign money . don 't understand that. Why can 't we just vote on bllls like we normally do? People know what's in those bills com ing from the House . We 've qot a lot of sponsors. sponsored some bills to do what the House did , but you sent them to a subcomm ittee . And what 's the subcomm ittee going to do? Reading your -- your resolution r I think it goes beyond the scope of the duties and authority o f the State Sena te itself. It says that we can investigate fede ral elections . It says r on the first page, ltne 17 through 23, ''RESOLVED, BY THE SENATE OF THE NINETIETH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE 0F ILLINOIS , that there is created the Task Force on Election Activities and Reform to study the evolution of campaign organization and ftnance activities federal, State r and local elections ln Illinois ...'' Well, Why are we studying federal elections as a State Legislature? thtnk that 's beyond the realn of what We should be doing . I think there are federal committees that can study those , and we shouldn 't be spending our money do ing that. What is the point of that provislon , Sena tor?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Klemm i
Well, th ink We all know tha t there 's cooperation between federal and State campaign organizations, and obviously if there 's anything that 's inappropriate , we should be looking at that . And - - and -- and I disagree with your allegations that have taken bills and put them in a subcommittee . My committee has no t done that , Senator. You 're aware of that. So I Would like you to at least keep the record straight . also am sponsoring many of those bills that are com ing ove r, and if you don 't like it r you don 't have to get nasty about 16 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Welch , have you finished?
I'm not getting nasty , but somehow my election reform b ills ended up in a subcomm ittee , and you 're cha irman of the full committee . So don 't know how they got there . Maybe you could tell me . How did -- how did my bills end up ln that subccmm lttee? 'Cause I didn 't voluntarily put them there .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) think, Senator, m ight suqgest, that you keep your comments to the issue a t hand . Senato r Welch , I would appreciate it if you would keep your comments to the issue at hand . Sena tor Welch .
This is the issue hand . This ls very much the issue at hand . We have bllls in the Senate that are not allowed to be hea rd . We have bills coming ove r from the House that are not allowed to be heard . Now we have to appoint a task fo rce to investigate what to do when the House of Representatives has already voted to send over bllls to do just What the task force going to investigate. Seems to me that wedre trying to study this to death when we already have bills that We can vo te on , put in effect so they would go in effect right away to reform campaigns, instead of studying so that lt won 't take effect for the next election . It seem s to me that we 're going pretty fa r afield , creating a -- a task fo rce w ith State contracts for investigators . We already have a comm ission with Paul Simon and -- and fo rmer Governor Stratton on investigating thls . You know , it's -- it 's the idea of studying the issue to death that is go ing to happen here . So -- if Senato r Klemm thinks I offended him , -- I certainly apologize. wasn't trylng to be nasty. I'm just wondering why we fre not doing something within the next fou r STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997 weeks. You know , it's very frustratlng. We keep seeing subconm ittees , we keep seeing task force . It 's like education reform . We lve been studylng it to death . Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further d iscussion? Senator Collins , fo r a second time . Would you make it b rief?
Yes . Thank you , Madam President . And I apologize fcr the second time , but Senator Dudycz actually trigge red my remarks , and Senator Welch basically raised a1l of the issues that -- that was concerned about. Because it was my understand ing , Senato r Klemm , that this task fo rce 's responsibility -- primary responsibility was not to investigate but, fact, to take all o f the legislation that 's in subcommittee and tha t's Rules, that 's coming over from the Hcuse , both House and Senate b ills , and take - - laok at that and try and -- to arrive at a consensus of what was the best aspects of those bills to be put into one bill or one package of campaign reform -- meaningful campaign reform so tha t ke would not deal With it ln a piecemeal kind of way . Now , from Sena tor Dudycz 's explanation and fron your questions -- responses to Senato r Welch , this task force is not about campaign refo rm at all. This task force is going out and do some investigations, some hearings . Wha t are we going to be investlgatinq? You know , this a Way to just get around the issue of biting the bullet and doing what we know that we have a responsibility to do and that the citizens of this State ls demandlng of us to do . This is a delay , Senator. I don 't think that's your intent: but that 's going to be the results. PRESIDING OFFICER; (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Klemm , to close, hearing none .
Well, I think the Senator really sumaarized What I 'm trying to 18 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leg islative Day Ap ril 25, 1997 do , is consolidate and look at some of the campaign, election reforms that we want to do . Obviously if there is w rongdo ings done in our campaign PAC groups o r anything else , obviously think this task fo rce has every right to look into lt . I'm not lookin: at as a w itch-hunt; I 1m no t looking at as investigating and flying to Washington and go ing around the world . O f course not . I think a ll those questions a re being blown out of -- out of context, and not the intent . To say that We don 't have any intent to do anything , I have a reporting date that shoukd be done by November 1st . That 's enough tlme to have legislation on b0th sides drafted and worked together . If didn 't want to be successful this, could have had any kind o f repo rting date, I could have excluded some of the lmpc rtant things that they should be looking at. I did not do that . And I want all of us to be part of 1t. hope you will join with me, for those of you Who a re concerned about campaign and election reform . Fo r those of you who a re not , then vote No and try to explain that vote. am sincere in trying to do a decent job. I'm not out for anybody 's hide , so please support it . Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) On this question , there will be a roll call vote . Those in favo r will vote Aye . Those opposed will vote Nay . The votlng is open . Have al1 voted who wished? Have a1l voted who w ished? Have a1l voted who kished? Have all vo ted who wished? Take the reco rd . On this question, there are 39 voting Aye, none votln: Nay , 16 Mo ting Present. And this resolution, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Comm ittee Repo rts , M r. Secretary.
Senator Weaver, Chair of the Comm ittee on Rules , repcrts the following Leg islative Measures have been assigned : Re-referred from the Executive Comm ittee to the Committee on Rules - House 19 STATE 0F ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leg islative Day Ap ril 25, 1997 Bill 9787 referred to the Comm lttee on Education - House Bills 53, 190: 680, 1525 and 17517 to the Comm ittee on Envlronment and Energy - 260 , 646 , 1112, 1144, 1174 , 1229, 1239, 1457 and 15737 to the Committee on Executive - 475, 483, 606, 678 and 14507 to the Comm ittee on Financtal Instttutions - 1168, 2210 , 2211: to the Commlttee on Insurance and Pensions - 110 , 161 : 1400 and 22267 to the Comm ittee on Judic iary - 127 : 545, 710, 951 , 1140, 1186, 1211, 1252, 1426 , 1433, 1550, 1619 , 1705 and 2178 7 to the Comm ittee on Licensed Activities - 891, 1126 , 2215 and 2236 7 to the Comm ittee on Local Gove rnment and zlections - 353, 768 , 978, 1007 and 12937 to the Committee on Public Hea1th and Welfa re - 918, 1080 and 1446: to the Committee on Revenue - 1802; to the Comm ittee on State Government Operations - 1212, 2223 and 2225 : and to the Comm ittee on Transportaticn - 745 and 1169 - a11 House bills; Sponsorship Change Approved pursuant to Rule 5-l(c) - House Bill 577 , Senator Myers is the new spansor; and Be Approved for Consideration - the motion to concur w ith House Amendment 1 to Senate Joint Resolution 19 .
PRESIDING OPFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Can we have a little order, please. Xenator Bowles, for what purpose do you rise? SENATOR BOWLES : ' Thank your Madam President. Madam President, the -- the Present button was pushed on my voting mechanism on Senate Rule -- Senate Resolution 49 y and I Would like the recc rd to show that I would vote -- that I voted Yes , had I been -- had it been properly voted .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The record will be so noted for you , Senato r Bow les . Thank you . Senator Carroll has requested that the Body return to the O rder of Senate Bills 2nd Reading , on appropriation bills . On the Order of 2nd -- hearing no objectlon, his motion is recognized. 20 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997 On the O rder Senate Bills 2nd Read ing , on page 2 of today 's Calendar, is Senate Bill 1177. Sena tor Carroll . Would you read the bill , Mr . Secretary?
Senate Bill 1177 . (Secretary reads title of bll1) 2nd Read ing of the bill . No ccmn leeee or Floor amendments .
PRESIDING OPFICER : (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Carro ll. 3rd Read ing . On page 4 of today 's Calendar is the Order of Senate Bills 3rd Reading, appropriations bills. Senate B ill 1127 . Senator Rauschenberger. Clerk -- Mr . Secretary , will you please read the bill?
Senate B ill 1127 . (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Read ing of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Rauschenberger . SENATOR RAUSCHENBERGER : Thank you, Madam Speaker (sic): Lazles and Gentlemen of *he Senate . Senate Bill 1127 contains the Governor 's requested supplemental. It transfers funds between funds and agenc ies to allow him to complete the FY '97 budget . The total is eiqhty-one m illion dolla rs : forty-nine m illion etght hund red and th irty-six thousand General Revenue; thirty-one m illion three hundred and thirty-one thousand other revenues . T 'd be happy to answe r questions of the Members. PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? A ny further discussion? Hearing none , the question is: shall -- shall Senate Bill 1127 be -- be -- be approved . Those favor vill vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay . The voting 's open. Have all voted who wished? Have all 21 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day Ap ril 25y 1997 voted who w lshed? Have a1l voted who wished? Take the record , Mr . Secreta ry . On that question , there a re 56 vo tlng Aye, none voting No , none voting Present. And thls bill, having recelved the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Sena te Bill 1128 . Senator Rauschenberger. M r. Secretary , w ill you read the b ill?
Senate Bill 1128. (Secretary reads title of btl1) 3rd Reàding of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Rauschenberger .
Thank you , Madam President . We 've reached the Senate deadline on approp riation bills , and it 's time to move shell b ills cut into the process. We 've begun some discussions with the House , as well as tbe Executive Branch . We -- We dre Workinq on a five-way p rocess thts year r together With App ropriation chairmen and approp negotiato rs for the House . I would request the favo rable votes of the Body to move shell b ills out s'o that we 're prepa red r as we go through the process on the budget.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any furthe r discussion? Any furthe r discussion? Hea ring none ... Senator Trotter.
Yes . Thank you very much , Madam President . Just questions to the sponsor, please .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) He indlcaees he will yield. SENATOR TROTTER : Senator Rauschenberger , in this past few weeks v we 've had this great oppo rtunity to work together and We 've put forth several 22 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leglslative Day April 25, 1997 bills , not only the vehtcles for the Republicans r but We also had three shell bills fcr the Democrats. W ill we be hearing that legislation today , as well, or at least passing that legislation over to the House?
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Rauschenberge r.
The -- the Democrat shell bills will be called for 3rd Reading . you -- you want to move them , that 's certalnly your prerogative . At this time : it's our thought that We only need to move Majority bills over. If we were to need additional shells , we would have to go back and change the deadline date on the bills to -- to move out additional shell b ills .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Sena eo r Trotter .
Okay . But we wculdn 't have to ehange the deadline date if we moved forth the three bills that we have already aîreed upon in comm ittee . Is that correct?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR ZEO-KARIS) Senator Rauschenbe rger. SENATOR RAUSCHENBERGER T' That is correct. If the Body were to vote to move a1l of the shell bills y we wouldn 't need to change the deadlines.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Trotter.
If could , I 'd give my -- remainder of my time to r th inkr the President our President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator -- Senator Jones r he ...
STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25r 1997 Yeah. Thank you, Madam President. E'd just query khe -- the sponsor of the Senate Bill 1128, as relate to -- to shell bills and also in your remarks in explaining how the five that the four caucuses have been meeting on the appropriation in -- in a spirit of cooperation. And so -- and following what Senato r Trotter had to sayy in the splrit of cooperation: you were genuinely sineere r so therefore , the shell bills that the Democrats are sponsoring in this appropriation processr are you going to be supportive of them equally as well, or are you just going to be very partisan in this whole process and a11 the meetings that have been taking place are really for naught? A re you go ing to be that partisan , or are you going to live up to the remarks that you just got through maklng that everyone has been sitting around Ehe table working out a budget that al1 parties would be involved in? And so , I'd like to know , from this side of the atsle, are we meeting just to be meetingy or are We really gclng to live up to the Words you just got through saying, in a spirit of cooperation?
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARTS) Senator Rauschenberger'.
Senator Joness it -- it is -- I intend to be as b ipa rtisan as posslble . I intend to be as b icameral as possible. And hope , in the end , that we have the cooperation of the Executive Branch , as vell. This year 's budgetz in my opinion' does not to be -- appear to be , at this po ine anyway , very fractious . welcome the particlpation of Senator Trotter the discussions . T thlnk those are meaningful and real discussions . At issue today is -- is hoW many shell bills We move out. I don 't want to mislead you : It 's -- it 's our -- it 's my intent today only to vote for the four shell bills I sponsor . And hopefully we -- we won 't need any add itional onesy but I -- I certainly hope we can continue to move 24 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Legislative Day April 1997 forward , and I thlnk Senator T rotter is doln: a tremendously good job.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Jones .
Wellz meanr just in response to what you had to sayr Sena tor. You really want to be very pa rtisan , and -- and ycu 're not really meeting gocd faith , and ... Because of your own words, then if you were working ln a bipartisan manner, then you 'd say we wish to support a11 tfe shell bills and send them over, and we would continue tc wo rk towa rd the end in a bipa rtisan nanner to resolve the issue . But When -- but when you -- When you ind icate that you only intend to vote for bills that you are sponsoring , then your words really are -- a re meaningless, and I would suggest to you r as we move toward the conclusion of th is p rocess , that you live up to what you really meant, and that is y you tend to work in a bipartisan manner. And -- I would urge you to vo te for the bills that Senator Trotter is sponsoring , because one of those universities is in my area , and I'd like to see that bill pass. But -- but then you 're going to be partisan on that issue, then you're not acting good faith: for your side of the aisle or for this side of the aisle .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Further discussion? Senator Hawkinson .
Thank you, Madam President. W ill the sponsor yield for a question?
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Ind icates that he w ill.
Senato r, thought heard you use the number four as the number of shell bills you have . As I look at the Calendary it 25 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leg islative Day April 25 , 1997 appears you have eighe, and the -- the -- the reason I brln: that discrepancy up is, I would hope you 'd pass a1l eight , because Would like some assurance that we 're not :oing to see a single-b ill budget this year. I think we ought to have a a budget fo r every agency . We ought to do this in a bipa rtisan manner. And -- and , is there some reason you 're not go ing to pass all eight shells?
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Rauschenberger .
Sena tor, I appreciate the questicn . Let me clarify , to the extent I can. And -- and also , for Senato r Jones , histo rically , since I 've been Appropriation Chairmany due tc the way the House sees the world : the -- the budgets have tended to come to us on House bills because , for some reason, they attach a great deal of importance to being the sponsors of the bills . It 's -- lt 's our staff 's best determination that four shell bills would be enough for the Senate to send over. The flfth bill we 'll move deals k ith Senator Woodyard 's transition money for his family . is our intent and hope, and can almost g ive a it 's a firn conmitment 9f the chairmanr to try to brln: the budget back to this Chambe r in multtple bllls . -- realistically , I -- I can 't prom ise or don 't think that we 'll be doing a bill for eve ry agency . But the hope and the expectatlon is to have three o r four or maybe five bills' as we try to work that out with the other Chamber. There 's interest in both Chambers , and -- and I appreciate the question . Be happy to answer an additional one .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further d iscussion? Any fu rther discussion? Senato r Rauschenbergerr to close . SENATOR RAUSCHENBERGER : I would appreciate an Aye vote on -- th is is a -- th is -- 26 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leglslative Day Ap ril 1997 these bills a re shell bills . This ls pa rt of the process . think is a bipartisan process still. Senator Trotter has done a magnificent job for your side. This is about just the next step . So I would appreciate favo rable consideration .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) The question is , shall Senate Bill 1128 pass . Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed will vote Nay. The voting is open. Have al1 voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wished? Have voted who wished? Have al1 voted who wlshed? Take the reco rd . On -- on that question , there are 37 Ayes, l voting Nay , 18 voting P resent. And this bill , having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senator Butler, for what purpcse do you rise, sir?
For purposes of an announcement , please . Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate r I'd like to introduce a group of outstanding young people from my district . These are the young ladies and gentlemen from 0ur Lady of Wayside School in Arlington Heights , and I 'd ask you to welcome them , please.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) We gelcome you here and hope you enjoy your stay. Senate Bill 1129. Senator Rauschenberger . Mr. Secretary . 1129 .
Senate B ill 1129. (Secretary reads tltle of b11l) 3rd Read ing of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Rauschenberger.
Thank you , Madam President . This bill is the same issue as the last one , and I Would recommend , aga in, an Aye vote , and hopefully We could just go with the same debate on the record. STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997
PRESTDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-FARTS) Any further dlscussion? Any further discussion? Hea ring none, the questton is, shall Senate Bill 1129 pass. Those in favor will vote Aye . Those opposed w ill vote Nay . The voting 's open . Have a11 voted who w ished? Have al1 voted who w lshed? Have all voted who wished? Have all vcted Who wished? Take the record . On that question, there are 38 voting Aye , none votin: No , 14 voting Present . This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1130 . Senator Rauschenberger. M r. Secreta ry , w i11...
Senate Bill 1130. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readin: of the bill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Rauschenberger.
Thank you , Madam President . This is the same as the previous two -- oh r no ...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any furthe r dtscussion?
No . I'm ... No , no , no . I'm sorry . This -- apology -- this bill is the settlement fo r Senator Woodya rd 's fam ily . It 's the customa ry death benefit that the -- we need to approp riate to the - - to the Comptroller's Office . I would urge a unanimous roll call on this billy please .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Senator Trotter .
Yes . Can you give a little more detail on that , please r Senator Rauschenberger? 28 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCR IPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Rauschenberqer.
Senator Trotter, on the death of a Member, the family of the Member is entitled to the Senator's sa la ry fo r the -- the balance of their term -- their stipend , and th is -- and their stipend . This this settles that account W ith the Woodyards fam tly.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Hearlng none , the questicn is , shall Senate Bill 1130 pass . Those in favor, vote Aye . Those agalnst, vote Nay . The voting is open . Have a1l voted who w ished? Have all voted who w ished? Have all voted who wished? Take the reco rd . On that question y there are 55 voting Aye , none voting No y none vo ting Present. And this bill, having received the required constitutional majcrltyy is hereby declared passed. Senator Hendon, for what purpose do you rise?
Thank you , Madan President . Just a -- a procedural observation. Since I 've been here , I 've always sald we should change the title of these bills when the na ture of the bill completely changes, and that was a key example of exactly what Was ta lking about. That bill was up there as the Illinois Gaming Board . It makes no sense whatsoever to be something totally different for our gcod friend , Babe . It should have had what What it was about, and I pray that this Body will one day see the log ic in putting up the change of the tltles when they change so drastically .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Hendon y the classification ln the -- in your Calendar says HApprop riates funds to the State Comptroller.'' Senate Bill 1131 . Senator Rauschenberge r. 11317 Read the b ill, Mr. Secretary . 29 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislatlve Day Ap ril 25, 1997
Senate Bill 1131 . (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Readlng of the bill .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Rauschenberger .
Thank ycu , Madam President. This, again , returns this is another procedural shell . would urge the Body to g ive it favorable considera tion so we can continue the budget process .
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none , the question shall Senate Bill 1131 pass . Those in favor will vote Aye . Those opposed Will vote No -- Nay . And the voting is open. Have a11 voted who w ished? Have a11 voted who wished? Have all voted who w ished? Take the record . On that question, there are 43 voting Aye, none voting No , none 13 voting Present. And this bill , having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared passed. Senate Bill 1132. Senator Rauschenberger . M r. Secreta ry , W ill you read the billr please?
Senate Bill 1132. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the b ill.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Rauschenberger.
Thank you , Madam President and Members of the Body . This is the last bl11 1 '11 be offerlng taday . This is the fourth shell bill for the appropriation process . I 'd urge a favorable consideration . 30 STATE OF ILLINOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leg islative Day Ap rll 25, 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further d iscussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none , the question is , shall Senate Bill 1132 pass . Those in favor w ill vote Aye. Those opposed Will vote Nay . The va ting is open . Have a11 voted who w ished? Have a11 voted Who wished? Have all voted Who wished? Take the reco rd . On that question , there are 44 vo ting Aye , none voting No , 11 voting Present. This bill, having received the required constitutional majority, is hereby decla red passed . Senator -- Senato r Rauschenberger, for a clarlty to the Senate, you will not be callin: Senate Bill 1133 , 1134, 1135. Is that correct?
That -- that fs correct, Madam President.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) On the O rder of 3rd Reading , page 5, Senator Sm ith , 1172 . Mr . Secretary, will you read the bill?
Senate Bill 1172. (Secretary reads title of bill) 3rd Reading of the blll .
PRESIDING OFPICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Smith .
This -- thank you, Madam P resident: and to this Body -- this august Body . want to say that Senate Bill 1172 is a vehicle bill that app rop rlates funds for the o rdinary and contingent expenses of the Department of Public Health . And there is currently nothing controversial in this piece of legislation , but would like to move the bill for further considerations .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further ....
31 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day Ap ril 2Sy 1997 Would you please give me your -- your vote .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Hea rin: none , the question is , shall Senate Bill 1172 pass . Those in favor Will vote Aye. Those opposed Will vote Nay . The voting is open . Have a11 voted who Wished? Have all vo ted who W ished? Have all voted Who wished? Have a11 voted who w lshed? Once mcre . Have al1 voted who wished? Take the reco rd , M r. Secretary . On tha t question, there are 27 votin: Aye , 2 voting Nay , 22 voting Present. And this b tll, having failed tc receive the required constitutional majority, is hereby declared lost. Senate Bkll 1180 . Senator Trotter . Senator Sm itb . Postponed?
Please .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Postponed Consideratlon .
Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Thank you . Senato r Tro tter . Seven L- Senate Bill 1180 . A re you ready for that, sir? Read the bill, Mr. Secretary. SECRETARY HARRY : ' Senate B i11 1180. (Secretary reads tttle of bill) 3rd Reading of the bill .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator T rotter .
Thank you very much, Madam Presidentr Members of the Senate . Senate Bill 1180, like the previous six bills , is a veh icle that we 're utllizing fo r Chicago State University , and I 'd like a favorable roll call . 32 I STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legisla tive Day April 25, 1997
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Any further d iscussion? Any further discussion? Hearing none , the question is , shall Senate Bill 1180 pass . Those in favor, vote Aye. Those cpposed will vote Nay. And ehe voting is open . Have al1 voted Who W ished? Have all voted who Wished? Have all voted Who Wished? Have all voted Who W ished? On that question take the record - the re are 27 vo ting Aye, 2 vcting Nay , 23 voting Present . And this bill , havtn: failed to receive the constitutional majority, is hereby declared lost. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate r the Supplemental Calenda r No . has been distributed to al1 of you, so w ill you please note it. Senate Jo int Resolution l9 . Senator Maitland . Mr . Secreta ry , will you read Senate Jotnt Resolutlon l9? May we have your attention? This is on the -- the Supplemental Ca lendar No . 1 : on the Order of Secretary 's -- Resolution . Mr . Secreta ry , read the resolution.
Senate Joint Resolution l9# offered by Senato rs Ma ieland , Philip and others .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senato r Maitland .
Pardon me , Madam President . The ...
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Is there any amendment?
move to concur with the House in the adop tlon of their Amendment No . l to Senate Jo int Resolution which was filed by Senator Maitland .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-RARIS) Senator Maitland .
Thank you very much , Madam Presidentw Members of the Senate . STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL A SSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislatlve Day April 25 , 1997 You may recall, in the closing days of Februaryr we passed a resolution over to the House that would allow the Penslon Laws Commission to go into Executive Session to deal With personnel matters . That bill passed out -- tha t resolution passed out of here unanimously , went to the Housey where it has -- was delayed fo r -- for some weeks . It is now back kith an amendment that extends that date to May 15th : by which time we must go into Executive Session and d iscussion personnel matters. I -- I know of no oppcsitlon; the refore, Madam President, my motion is to concur with -- with Amendment No . 1 to Senate Joint Resolution l9 . PRESTDING OFFICER; (SENATOR GEO-MARIS) This motion requires forty votes. And the question is , shall the Senate concur in the House Amendment No . l to Senate Jo int Resolution l9 . Those in favor w ill vote Aye . Those opposed will vote Nay . The voting ls open . Have a1l voted Who kished? Have all voted who wished? Take the reco rd . On that -- Mr. Secreta ry . On that question, there a re 55 votlng Aye , none votlng Nc r none voting Present. And thls Senate Jc int Resolution , having received the requ ired number of votes, the Senate does concur in House Amendment 1 to Sena te Joint Resolution 19 . Senator Trotter, for what purpcse do you arise?
Yes , Madam President . I Would at this time, if I could : take Senate Bill 1180 and put it on Postponed Consideration.
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARTS) Your motion is in order, and it will be put on ...
Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) . . . Sm ith , for What purpose do you rise?
I wanted to make a correction . You vo ted on SJR l9, 34 STATE OF JLL ENOIS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Leg islative Day April 25, 1997 Maitland 's b ill, and I was not at my desk to vote . I 'd like to be reglstered as voting Aye . Thank you .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Your Aye vote will be so noted . Thank you . m..Trotter, for what purpose do you rise?
Madam Presldent r I w ish to Withdraw my motion fo r Postponed Consideration .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Your request is in order. Itlll be withdrawn. Thank you. Resolutions.
Senate Resolution 55 and Senate Resolution 56 , bo th offered by Senator Severns and all Members . They 're bo th death resolutlons , Madam President.
PRESIDJNG OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-SARIS) Consent Calendar. We will now proceed to the O rder of Resolutions Consent Calendar . With leave of the Body , a11 of those read in today Will be added to the Consent Calendar . Mr . Secretary, have there been any objections filed to any resolution on the Consent Calendar? SECRETARY HARRY: No objections filedz Madam President. PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Thank you . Any discussion? If not, the question is , shall the resolution on the Consent Calenda r be adopted . All Ehose in favor will say Aye. Al1 opposed Will say Nay. The motion carries r and the resolutlons a re adopted . Senator Walsh , for what purposed do you arise , sir? SENATOR T . WALSH : Thank you , Madam Pres ident . A po int o f personal privilege . PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TRANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day April 25, 1997 State your po int, sir.
I would like the Sena te to recognlze and I 'd llke to introduce the Kaiser family from Westchester : Craig and Cathy and their children y who are dcwn here to watch the Westchester Grade School Distrtct band that's going to be playing in the Rotunda at noon. So I 'd like to welcome the Raisers to Sp ringfield .
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Welcome, the Kaiser family, and enjoy yourself. Resolutions.
Senate Jo int Resolution 29, offered by Senator Donahue . (Secretary reads SJR No. 29)
PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Senator Donahue moves Eo suspend the rules for the purpose of the immediate consideration for adoption of Senate Joint Resolution 29 . Those in favo r will say Aye . Those opposed will say Nay . In the opinion of the Chair, the Ayes have it . The rules are suspended . Senator Donahue has moved for the adoption of Senate Joint Resolutlon 29 . Those in favo r will say Aye . opposed will say Nay . In the oplnion of the Chair, the Ayes have The resolution provides -- the resolution 's adopted , and it provides that we resume business in this House on Tuesday , April 29 r 1997, at 12 noon . Is there any further business to come befo re the Senate , M r. Secretary ? House Bills lst Reading .
House Bill 9 , offered by Senator Luechtefeld . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 265, Senator Burzynskt. (Secretary reads title of bill) Rouse Bill 289 , Senator Berman . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 381, Senator Carroll. 36 STATE OF ILLINO IS 90TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY REGULAR SESSION SENATE TéANSCRIPT 38th Legislative Day Ap ril 25, 1997 (Secretary reads tltle of bill) House Bill 533 : Senato r Welch . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 535 , Senator Cronin . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 550: Senator O 'Malley . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 729, Sena tor Butler. (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 989, offered by Senator Lawrenee Walsh . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1330 , Senator Syverson . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 1880, Sena tor O 'Daniel . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 2067, Senator Carroll . (Secretary reads tiele of bill) House Bill 2109, Senator Tom Walsh . (Secretary reads tltle of bill) House Bill 2287, Senator Carroll . (Secretary reads title of bill) House Bill 153, by Senator Jacobs . (Secretary reads title of bill) And House B ill 1843, by Senator Jacobs . (Secrekary reads title of btll) 1st Reading of the b ills .
PRESIDING OFFICER : (SENATOR GEO-KARIS) Is there any further business to come before the Senate? If not, the -- Senator Butler moves that the Senate stands adjourned until 12 noon, Tuesday , April 29. Have a nlce Weekend , everyone . 37 REPORT: TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOIS 97/07/31 PAGE: 001 90TH CENERAL ASSEMBLY 12:39::4 SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 25, 1997 HB-0009 FIRST REâDING HB-O053 FIRST READING HB-0061 FIRST READING HB-OIMR FIRST READING HB-0153 FIRST READING HB-01i4 FIRST READING HB-0165 FIRST READING H8-0228 FIRST READING H8-0234 FIRST READING H8-0265 FIRST READING H8-0289 FIRST REâDING H8-0295 FIRST REàDING H8-0333 FIRST READIHG HB-O381 FIRST READING H8-0528 FIRST READING H8-0533 FIRST READING H8-0535 FIRST READING HB-0550 FIRST READING HB-0601 FIRST READING HB-0602 FIRST READING HB-0646 FIRST REàDING H8-0729 FIRST READING H8-0759 FIRST READING HB-0760 FIRST READING H8-0762 FIRST READING HB-0791 FIRST READING HB-0891 FIRST READING HB-O920 FIRST READING H8-0922 FIRST READING H8-0955 FIRST READIHG H8-0989 FIRST READING HB-1001 FIRST READING HB-1088 FIRST READING HB-11R1 FIRST READING HB-1155 FIRST READING HB-1176 FIRST READING HB-1207 FIRST READING HB-1210 FIRST READING H8-1239 FIRST READING H8-1252 FIRST READING H8-1255 FIRST READING HB-133O FIRST READING HB-135R FIRST READING H8-1356 FIRST READING H8-1386 FIRST READING HB-1400 FIRST READING HB-1:08 FIRST READING HB-1%22 FIRST READING HB-1)93 FIRST READING HB-1500 FIRST REàDING H8-1573 FIRST READING HB-1613 FIRST READING H8-1668 FIRST READING HB-168R FIRST READING HB-1805 FIRST READING HB-1843 FIRST READING HB-1880 FIRST READING H8-2067 FIRST READING HB-2109 FIRST READING HB-2121 FIRST READING HB-2147 FIRST READING HB-2179 FIRST READING HB-221M FIRST READING H8-2223 FIRST REâDING REPORT: TIFLDAY STATE OF ILLINOIS 97/07/31 PAGE: 002 90TH GENERAL ASSEHBLY 12:39:4: SENATE DAILY TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBATE INDEX APRIL 25, 1997 H8-2287 FIRST READING PAGE SB-1127 THIRD READING PàGE SB-1128 THIRD REZDING PAGE SB-1129 THIRD READING PàGE sB-1130 THIRD READING PAGE SB-1131 THIRD READING PAGE SB-1132 THIRD REàDIHG PAGE SB-1172 THIRD READING PAGE SB-1177 SECOND READING PAGE SB-1180 THIRD READING PAGE SB-1180 OTHER PAGE SB-1180 OTHER PAGE SR-0049 ADOPTED PAGE SR-00R9 OTHER PAGE SR-005R RESOLPTION OFFERED PâGE SR-0055 RESOLUTION OFFERED PâGE SR-0056 RESOLUTION OFFERED PAGE SJR-0019 CONCERRENCE PAGE SJR-0019 OTHER PAGE SJR-0029 àDOPTED PAGE 5JR-0029 RESOLPTION OFFERED PAGE SPBJECT HATTER SENATE TO ORDER - PRESIDENT PHILIP PAGE 1 PRAYER - REVEREND CERRY COMSTOCK PAGE 1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PAGE 1 JOURNàLS - POSTPONED PAGE 1 COMHITTEE REPORTS PAGE 1 MESSAGE FROM THE HOPSE PàGE 2 SENATE STANDS AT EASE & RECONVENES PAGE 13 COMHITTEE REPORT PAGE 19 RESOLëTIONS CONSENT CALENDAR-ADOPTED PAGE 35 ADJOURNMENT PAGE 37